IBM 1393464, "only" $479.95!

[ander]

Hey, don't miss this fabulous deal!:

Vintage IBM Model M "Clicky" Keyboard 1393464 airline special – $479.95

I couldn't resist posting this... It seems incredibly optimistic, even for one that "appears to be new" (but isn't NIB). What do you think? Is this person in the same universe we are?

[ander]

Oops, sorry, I inadvertently locked the topic. Sheesh—just not paying attention to what I'm clicking.

[fohat.digs]

Not much to discuss. These airline models turn up a couple of times a year and aren't anything more than a curiosity.

[chyros]

Model M

$480

wat

[ander]

Not much to discuss. These airline models turn up a couple of times a year and aren't anything more than a curiosity.

Yep. Geek that I am, tho, I dropped him a long detailed message about how to determine if it was actually "new" or just appeared clean, and what he could reasonably expect for it. It also turns out he has the original box 'n' foam, but didn't realize there was any value in mentioning them or including them in his photos. A decent fellow, just seriously in the dark about what this stuff's worth.

[berserkfan]

Not much to discuss. These airline models turn up a couple of times a year and aren't anything more than a curiosity.

Yep. Geek that I am, tho, I dropped him a long detailed message about how to determine if it was actually "new" or just appeared clean, and what he could reasonably expect for it. It also turns out he has the original box 'n' foam, but didn't realize there was any value in mentioning them or including them in his photos. A decent fellow, just seriously in the dark about what this stuff's worth.

If it's a BIN, stuff doesn't need to be worth anything in the world's eyes, only worth $480 in the eyes of one single collector.

BIN is a great tool for finding that one single collector who is willing to pay. Fohat loves BIN for that reason.

[dorkvader]

Model M

$480

wat

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351399266224
^This one was probably worth $480. I believe there are only 2 older known ones. One sold for $1800 some years ago and the other is in possession of Webwit.


About the 1393464 I'd rather get one of the ones CK has for $150
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/34297/subcatid/0/id/587061
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/34297/subcatid/0/id/587201

[chyros]

Model M

$480

wat

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351399266224
^This one was probably worth $480. I believe there are only 2 older known ones. One sold for $1800 some years ago and the other is in possession of Webwit.


About the 1393464 I'd rather get one of the ones CK has for $150
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/34297/subcatid/0/id/587061
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/34297/subcatid/0/id/587201

Thing is, this one isn't even industrial. Or a space saver. Not that I don't think either of those are ludicrously overpriced, but this one just has a bunch of extra legends on the keys. Humbug!

[dorkvader]

Thing is, this one isn't even industrial. Or a space saver. Not that I don't think either of those are ludicrously overpriced, but this one just has a bunch of extra legends on the keys. Humbug!

OK Fine. A WANG version of this board would easily be worth $480, it's not an SSK. It's not industrial. it is, however quite rare. All were supposed to have been destroyed. I only know of two or three that exist.

There are rare model Ms that are beige and have tenkeys. Another example is the first "enhanced" keyboard that came out in mid-1985. Early examples of the the 1386303 have sold for that kind of money. While the buckling spring over membrane design was introduced in Q4 of 1984 on the first-gen wheelwriters (and potentially earlier but I have yet to find conclusive proof) and showed up almost immediately afterward in the 122-key variant, the first keyboard in the timeless "enhanced" keyboard layout was the 1386303, and the first "PC compatible" version was the 1388032. Both examples sell for much more than other model Ms.

There are also some that are uncommon but don't command a fortune. The AT&T KB305 is a possible example.

Rare keycaps absolutely command a price premium. Look at original IBM APL sets. Even the Variant for word processing gets some high prices. It's just that SSks (which aren't that rare) and some industrials (also not rare) command a high price for whatever reason (myself, I prefer my 1390120 to any of the above).

And there are others as well. I'm a particular fan of the GE Marquette input terminal keycaps (recently sold to a friend) and those boards aren't common. There's a lot of odd IBM stuff out there. Some of it is so rare it doens't really even have a price since so few people know it even exists.

[Snowdog993]

I have one.

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[rowdy]

I have one.

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Sitting on a gold mine :p

[Snowdog993]

Sitting on a gold mine

Not For Sale.  What a gold mine that is.  Ho hum.
Edit: It's more like a canary in a coal mine.  I get too dizzy walking in a straight line.

[jonathanyu]

Thing is, this one isn't even industrial. Or a space saver. Not that I don't think either of those are ludicrously overpriced, but this one just has a bunch of extra legends on the keys. Humbug!

OK Fine. A WANG version of this board would easily be worth $480, it's not an SSK. It's not industrial. it is, however quite rare. All were supposed to have been destroyed. I only know of two or three that exist.

There are rare model Ms that are beige and have tenkeys. Another example is the first "enhanced" keyboard that came out in mid-1985. Early examples of the the 1386303 have sold for that kind of money. While the buckling spring over membrane design was introduced in Q4 of 1984 on the first-gen wheelwriters (and potentially earlier but I have yet to find conclusive proof) and showed up almost immediately afterward in the 122-key variant, the first keyboard in the timeless "enhanced" keyboard layout was the 1386303, and the first "PC compatible" version was the 1388032. Both examples sell for much more than other model Ms.

There are also some that are uncommon but don't command a fortune. The AT&T KB305 is a possible example.

Rare keycaps absolutely command a price premium. Look at original IBM APL sets. Even the Variant for word processing gets some high prices. It's just that SSks (which aren't that rare) and some industrials (also not rare) command a high price for whatever reason (myself, I prefer my 1390120 to any of the above).

And there are others as well. I'm a particular fan of the GE Marquette input terminal keycaps (recently sold to a friend) and those boards aren't common. There's a lot of odd IBM stuff out there. Some of it is so rare it doens't really even have a price since so few people know it even exists.

How does the WANG version look like?  Seems I can't find it on Google.

[dorkvader]

How does the WANG version look like?  Seems I can't find it on Google.

CK's is the second result for me, but I do a lot of KB searches so I bet it rates those higher on my account. It's a normal "rebranded" one like ambra and sabre

http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/9523/subcatid/0/id/309478

Sitting on a gold mine

Not For Sale.  What a gold mine that is.  Ho hum.

I almost got one back when CK had them for cheap (I forget but it was under $100 for sure) instead I just got the caps. Currently they're on my 1390120.

[chyros]

Thing is, this one isn't even industrial. Or a space saver. Not that I don't think either of those are ludicrously overpriced, but this one just has a bunch of extra legends on the keys. Humbug!

OK Fine. A WANG version of this board would easily be worth $480, it's not an SSK. It's not industrial. it is, however quite rare. All were supposed to have been destroyed. I only know of two or three that exist.

There are rare model Ms that are beige and have tenkeys. Another example is the first "enhanced" keyboard that came out in mid-1985. Early examples of the the 1386303 have sold for that kind of money. While the buckling spring over membrane design was introduced in Q4 of 1984 on the first-gen wheelwriters (and potentially earlier but I have yet to find conclusive proof) and showed up almost immediately afterward in the 122-key variant, the first keyboard in the timeless "enhanced" keyboard layout was the 1386303, and the first "PC compatible" version was the 1388032. Both examples sell for much more than other model Ms.

There are also some that are uncommon but don't command a fortune. The AT&T KB305 is a possible example.

Rare keycaps absolutely command a price premium. Look at original IBM APL sets. Even the Variant for word processing gets some high prices. It's just that SSks (which aren't that rare) and some industrials (also not rare) command a high price for whatever reason (myself, I prefer my 1390120 to any of the above).

And there are others as well. I'm a particular fan of the GE Marquette input terminal keycaps (recently sold to a friend) and those boards aren't common. There's a lot of odd IBM stuff out there. Some of it is so rare it doens't really even have a price since so few people know it even exists.

Wow. Impressive.

People really ARE crazy xD .

[ander]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351399266224
^This one was probably worth $480. I believe there are only 2 older known ones. One sold for $1800 some years ago and the other is in possession of Webwit.

Well, that's an Industrial, Dork... I don't think it could be considered in the same category with a 1393464.

OK Fine. A WANG version of this board would easily be worth $480, it's not an SSK. It's not industrial. it is, however quite rare. All were supposed to have been destroyed. I only know of two or three that exist.

No doubt. But again, the WANG has a unique molded logo; whereas if you really wanted a set of airline key caps, you could have one made for a lot less than that.

There are rare model Ms that are beige and have tenkeys. Another example is the first "enhanced" keyboard that came out in mid-1985. Early examples of the the 1386303 have sold for that kind of money...

Do you mean NIB, though? Remember, this one is just (apparently) unused. The seller also told me 10 plastic tabs had broken off—I forgot to mention that. (He wondered if he should keep them with the KB in case they had collectable value!)

While the buckling spring over membrane design was introduced in Q4 of 1984 on the first-gen wheelwriters (and potentially earlier but I have yet to find conclusive proof) and showed up almost immediately afterward in the 122-key variant, the first keyboard in the timeless "enhanced" keyboard layout was the 1386303, and the first "PC compatible" version was the 1388032. Both examples sell for much more than other model Ms.

Well, even though that doesn't actually apply to the airline board, it's good to know!

Rare keycaps absolutely command a price premium. Look at original IBM APL sets. Even the Variant for word processing gets some high prices... And there are others as well. I'm a particular fan of the GE Marquette input terminal keycaps (recently sold to a friend) and those boards aren't common...

I wonder what kind of actual premiums, though? In the $100's?

BTW, I noticed a complete Marquette board sold on eBay a few days ago for $35. That would've been a good deal for any Model M in good shape!  :?O

[XMIT]

Now only $259.95! :-D

Model M

$480

wat

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351399266224
^This one was probably worth $480. I believe there are only 2 older known ones. One sold for $1800 some years ago and the other is in possession of Webwit.

My greatest find is an Industrial M from 1985, sitting in a trash heap. I paid $0 for mine. It is from 11 DEC 1985.

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[ander]

My greatest find is an Industrial M from 1985, sitting in a trash heap. I paid $0 for mine. It is from 11 DEC 1985.

Okay, an awful find and an incredible one—that seems to cover everything!

[nubbinator]

Now only $259.95! :-D

Model M

$480

wat

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351399266224
^This one was probably worth $480. I believe there are only 2 older known ones. One sold for $1800 some years ago and the other is in possession of Webwit.

My greatest find is an Industrial M from 1985, sitting in a trash heap. I paid $0 for mine. It is from 11 DEC 1985.

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If only it was November, then it would have been my Birthday Board.

[XMIT]

If only it was November, then it would have been my Birthday Board.

Yeah! I'm October of '85. Still on the lookout for that birthday board. There was an AT F on eBay for a while made on 21-OCT-85 that was a day off! Ah well.

[ander]

If it's a BIN, stuff doesn't need to be worth anything in the world's eyes, only worth $480 in the eyes of one single collector.

True enough. I'd even go as far as to say it's one of the more amusing aspects of all this.

BIN is a great tool for finding that one single collector who is willing to pay. Fohat loves BIN for that reason.

LOL. Of course we love him despite his famous compulsiveness—maybe even because of it?

[fohat.digs]

I like "Buy-It-Now" because I am impatient and I like a "sure thing".

That is true when I am the buyer OR the seller.

When I snipe as a buyer, I generally snipe at a price considerably lower than I would pay outright on a clean straight deal.