Can you explain why cherry and not oem?
? I don't get it.
I will see if it's possible to add 4 additional top row 1x key to each set, and if so what that does to the prices.
CAN WE PLEASE GET 1.5x MODS AND 7x SPACEBAR!? D:
I don't see any information other than they visual image of the keyboard layout. Sorry for the newb question, but will these fit my Poker ii?
Yes these are again with imsto.
I will see if it's possible to add 4 additional top row 1x key to each set, and if so what that does to the prices.
Black on Black should come out looking similar to how it was with the Realforce:Show Image(http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/87UB_led1000_th0x0.jpg)
Indeed it is not a high visibility.
Order won't go to production without the MOQ of 400 total sets ordered. I have not made an order with the factory yet, only made sure it is possible.
Why not OEM? Because Cherry is BETTER!
I am not here to pick any fights. Originative will come out with nearly the same style keycaps in 2 weeks. The idea is the same, black on black like the Realforce. I am not saying you copied ours, but please know that we are not copying yours. Get ready for Black Friday. :)Would it be ready to ship in two weeks?
Any chance of having 4 more top row blanks?
When you say these are IMSTO what does that mean? I thought these were GMK.. Does IMSTO do the dyesubbing? While gmk makes the keys?
Heh at least they can't get the caps lock colour wrong ;)
Heh at least they can't get the caps lock colour wrong ;)
Heh at least they can't get the caps lock colour wrong ;)
I am not here to pick any fights. Originative will come out with nearly the same style keycaps in 2 weeks. The idea is the same, black on black like the Realforce. I am not saying you copied ours, but please know that we are not copying yours. Get ready for Black Friday. :)
I'm curious how this works. Once you get 400 orders they go to production? Once in production how long do they take to make? 400 orders seems like a lot - is it likely that many people will order these?
I am not here to pick any fights. Originative will come out with nearly the same style keycaps in 2 weeks. The idea is the same, black on black like the Realforce. I am not saying you copied ours, but please know that we are not copying yours. Get ready for Black Friday. :)
Since this is done via IMSTO again: Is there a possibility to fix the capslock issue from last round? In a perfect world I want a matching key for every design we ordered, but I would also be content with a generic capslock key with black legends or a blank one.
Can you please check what possibilities there are? Thanks! I feel IMSTO owes us something since he didn't deliver what we actually ordered and paid for...
Any chance of having 4 more top row blanks?
+1 would love 4 extra blank keys for my ducky
If MOQ is 400 then why not go with BSP? If it is because they don't have 1.25 mods or something weird then just get those from imsto and everything else from BSP.
If MOQ is 400 then why not go with BSP? If it is because they don't have 1.25 mods or something weird then just get those from imsto and everything else from BSP.
Is BSP better?
These will fit perfect on poker 2 right? :) I am kinda new here...
I've asked for sample key black on black dyesub to make sure it will look good. I don't know when/if I will have it yet.
it won't be black black; the base will have to be lighter for black dyesub legends to work
i will like to ask, If you can do a set that have Silver legends ? in color Silver, not white ?I don't think that this is possible with the dyesub process. You can only make the printing darker, not lighter than the keycap colour.
The printing will be very very subtle.
Is there any chance of getting the printed set in Dvorak? I'm sorely tempted, but I don't want to spend this much on a set printed with the "wrong" layout.
Is there any chance of getting the printed set in Dvorak? I'm sorely tempted, but I don't want to spend this much on a set printed with the "wrong" layout.
I doubt that very much.
Is there any chance of getting the printed set in Dvorak? I'm sorely tempted, but I don't want to spend this much on a set printed with the "wrong" layout.As with the last Dvorak set(s) made, I will buy some if they are offered.
Is there any chance of getting the printed set in Dvorak? I'm sorely tempted, but I don't want to spend this much on a set printed with the "wrong" layout.
I doubt that very much.
I offered Dvorak on the first PBT set buy I did. Very few people were interested so I haven't offered it again.But those people were very interested!
4 extra top row keys add $4 to the set price.
Will be purchasing this before the deadline. Highly interested :).
I will think about adding Dvorak if there is at least 20 people that want it.I will be hyping this as much as possible.
I don't think this has been asked yet: Will these have a 6 stem spacebar for Leopold FC200R compatibility?
I don't get this. You don't have to pay any money right now. Invoices will be sent after MOQ was reached.
If everybody did this we would never reach MOQ...
If you are so sure about ordering please just submit your order now. If anything changes in a couple of weeks you can still cancel it :thumb:
Still waiting to hear back about sample from imsto for sure. Said probably only able to get color sample plank, not key.
Still waiting to hear back about sample from imsto for sure. Said probably only able to get color sample plank, not key.A plank would be fine, as long as it shows the printing and the colour. Even just a big square area is good. Thanks for looking into this.
Half the sets feng has were from my earlier groupbuy and are certinaly not Leopold compatible spacebar. The spacebar have 4 stems 2 on the outside for normal stabs distance and 2 in the center section for the switch.This should provide compatibility with both OEM (filco, etc) and Cherry keyboards.
I'm in for 5 sets :3
I'm in for 5 sets :3
How do you differentiate PBT blank with normal blank keycaps?
Hello Ivan, I must thank you for doing this because I was looking for a black blank PBT cherry set but every where was sold out.
Unfortunately I won't be able to order yet, maybe in a week-two weeks, but will put a order if orders mysteriously rise quickly.
How would we cancel it later? Would we send a message to you later?
Edit: signed up anyway, since it's paypal, it's under my mom's name, but provided both names incase.
Hello Ivan, I must thank you for doing this because I was looking for a black blank PBT cherry set but every where was sold out.
Unfortunately I won't be able to order yet, maybe in a week-two weeks, but will put a order if orders mysteriously rise quickly.
How would we cancel it later? Would we send a message to you later?
Edit: signed up anyway, since it's paypal, it's under my mom's name, but provided both names incase.
Orders close mid-January - you have plenty of time even to order at the last minute.
How long will it be before I get them? and is there any chance I could get a 60% set for my poker II (for less money because I need less keys)?
No sorry, only 104+ set is available.
Will definitely order one set of blanks and probably order one set of printed before Jan. Gotta see sample first.
I don't know what those samples change for you.
Do you really think Ivan would produce a set that looks ****ty?
In my opinion it would be better if everybody who is interested in this set just placed an order, so we have an actual interest count. Right now people might look at this GB and think it's not even worth thinking about participating because it won't happen anyway since we haven't even reached 1/4 of MOQ.
If the samples turn out to look like crap and Ivan still decides to go for it (which won't happen), you can still cancel your order - nothing lost for you...
In my opinion it would be better if everybody who is interested in this set just placed an order, so we have an actual interest count.
imsto has told me factory will be matching against black/black Realforce key (see example post 10) so if you like that shade black you should be all set.
YongJK you have not placed an order yet.
imsto has told me factory will be matching against black/black Realforce key (see example post 10) so if you like that shade black you should be all set.
i don't understand how people can't see the legends on the rf boards....there is an extreme amount of contrast there
is dyesub or double shot better for longer lasting keys?
So tempted by the blanks as a set to replace all sets.
only problem is I own a 75% and a cherry 11900, 75% would waste a bunch of keys and the 11900 would waste the bottom row keys due to 6x spacebar and 1x mods.....FML
So tempted by the blanks as a set to replace all sets.
only problem is I own a 75% and a cherry 11900, 75% would waste a bunch of keys and the 11900 would waste the bottom row keys due to 6x spacebar and 1x mods.....FML
possibly the originative black friday sale affected this.
Yeah this happens a lot around here I think. People always say oh I will wait to order to see if it's going to make it. Problem is 80% is doing the same, no one places order and it fails. If you want things, place the order. If it still doesn't happen you 'wasted' couple minutes filling the form, not much of a loss for you.
Yeah this happens a lot around here I think. People always say oh I will wait to order to see if it's going to make it. Problem is 80% is doing the same, no one places order and it fails. If you want things, place the order. If it still doesn't happen you 'wasted' couple minutes filling the form, not much of a loss for you.
+1, you're not throwing money at anything. Just fill out those forms people!
Quick question?
Can i use different email to get invoice than my paypal email?
Usually couple month after order is paid to production.
Usually couple month after order is paid to production.
Awesome! I think I will order the day after XMAS, because I get my keyboard the day before. Really hoping this goes through, it is just what I have been looking for!
Threw in an order for one of each so far to help with MOQ. Would be a shame if we're not able to hit it people.
why is their moq so high?
why is their moq so high?
I'm new to this process. If the MOQ isn't hit before January 15th, what happens? Do we just hang tight until we reach the MOQ?Maybe we have to continue wait until hit MOQ
Will these be thick?
Will these be thick?
yes, imsto pbt is thick pbt
Now I have the hard decision.... Blanks or Black on Black. First world problems.
Now I have the hard decision.... Blanks or Black on Black. First world problems.I think you should choose blank because it is full blank. About black on black, there is 3 key blank. I think it is not uniform :)
Now I have the hard decision.... Blanks or Black on Black. First world problems.I think you should choose blank because it is full blank. About black on black, there is 3 key blank. I think it is not uniform :)
Could people buy them only to sell them after the GB to get the MOQ up?
Could people buy them only to sell them after the GB to get the MOQ up?
noone is stopping them
except for people who will troll saying you paid so and so price on the GB, why are you charging more blah blah
International shipping cost about $7-11.
What's a rhetorical question.
exact same shade of black
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.
I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?
I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.
I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?
I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?
No I haven't got in touch with GMK yet, just something that came up recently as an idea chatting with some other members. I thought I would see reaction first. As far as color matching perfetly, I think it's safe to go on assumption it will not.
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.
I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?
I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?
If you saved the link the form gave you at the end you can use that to edit your order entries. Otherwise just place a new order with all your info and everything you want and the old ones will get deleted.
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.
I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?
I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?
Isn't ANSI exactly the same as ISO only different enter and 105 keys vs 104? I'd be interested if I could get a full blank black set of caps for my Cherry G80-3000, even if that means enter would be ABS...I don't think the difference in colour would be that great, would it?
No I haven't got in touch with GMK yet, just something that came up recently as an idea chatting with some other members. I thought I would see reaction first.
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.
I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?
I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?
If you saved the link the form gave you at the end you can use that to edit your order entries. Otherwise just place a new order with all your info and everything you want and the old ones will get deleted.
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
As I already said on DT .... honestly I am not a big fan of it. It's just too extravagant for me.
And the fact that I had to google "Aurebesh" to know what it's supposed to be, speaks for itself I think. Maybe I am not nerdy enough, but I have seen the classic Star Wars Triology like 20 times, read a lot of SW books and played many SW video games and still haven't heard of that word before (maybe it's different in German...).
But of course my personal opinion doesn't mean you shouldn't try it!
What MOQ are we talking about? Does this help towards the 400 or would this be totally separate?
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
On second thought, would there be any way to get legends where the main legend is regular ansi and there's a secondary legend with these characters? Similar to Miami Odessa or many of the other multilingual sets you've made.
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
On second thought, would there be any way to get legends where the main legend is regular ansi and there's a secondary legend with these characters? Similar to Miami Odessa or many of the other multilingual sets you've made.
Only problem I can see with that is that the Odessa set had different coloured legends. Black in black with sub legends would probably be pretty hard to read.
Black on Black should come out looking similar to how it was with the Realforce:Show Image(http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/87UB_led1000_th0x0.jpg)
Indeed it is not a high visibility.
Order won't go to production without the MOQ of 400 total sets ordered. I have not made an order with the factory yet, only made sure it is possible.
Why not OEM? Because Cherry is BETTER!
Black on Black should come out looking similar to how it was with the Realforce:Show Image(http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/87UB_led1000_th0x0.jpg)
Indeed it is not a high visibility.
Order won't go to production without the MOQ of 400 total sets ordered. I have not made an order with the factory yet, only made sure it is possible.
Why not OEM? Because Cherry is BETTER!
I hope the final set will look like this :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wn0USkG.png)
Absolutely, it's a ninja dyesub PBT keyset with Cherry profile :thumb:
1.5, 7, 1.75, ISO enter, windowed lock keys will all be available soon. BUT only as blank, printed is not option with those.
1.5 , 1.0 R4 mods + x7 spacebar in the set? where you getting this info from?
1.5, 7, 1.75, ISO enter, windowed lock keys will all be available soon. BUT only as blank, printed is not option with those.
I am planning on getting the black on black set, but I have one question as I am new to mechanical keyboards, will these work fine with a Filco Majestouch full keyboard? The best I can tell it looks like it will work, but I need to be certain.
Oh, and first post!
I am planning on getting the black on black set, but I have one question as I am new to mechanical keyboards, will these work fine with a Filco Majestouch full keyboard? The best I can tell it looks like it will work, but I need to be certain.
Oh, and first post!
I am planning on getting the black on black set, but I have one question as I am new to mechanical keyboards, will these work fine with a Filco Majestouch full keyboard? The best I can tell it looks like it will work, but I need to be certain.
Oh, and first post!
Almost all sets in the group buy section will fit the standard Filco keyboard. You're lucky you have the most standard layout :D
I am planning on getting the black on black set, but I have one question as I am new to mechanical keyboards, will these work fine with a Filco Majestouch full keyboard? The best I can tell it looks like it will work, but I need to be certain.
Oh, and first post!
Almost all sets in the group buy section will fit the standard Filco keyboard. You're lucky you have the most standard layout :D
Well, will have. It's a little Christmas present to myself. I haven't used a mech. keyboard since early 2000s when we had an IBM keyboard. Ever since then I've been on annoying keyboards, right now I'm typing on a scissor style wireless. It sucks...
So excited!
Last question to you guys, do these group buys get canceled a lot of the time? I saw a few threads marked canceled, so I was wondering the chances of this one making it?
We've gotten 300 MOQ in the past and on things that seemed way less likely like Russian sets and white/purple doubleshot. Maybe it's more of a push at 400 but I believe it can happen. Still waiting on some interested vendors to confirm amounts.
Loving these. Been looking all over for a full set of black PBT caps. Here's another two sets added onto that total.
How far along are we right now?
I'm looking into some options with laser legend, side print could be one. I will know more soon.
If never reach MOQ, nothing get made.
If never reach MOQ, nothing get made.
:'(
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I'm hoping the OP gets updated with new options to get the numbers up.
I also hope people notice the change.
You might need to update the title so people will know there are additions to this GB.
Will there be a TKL version for cheaper of the blank set? If not anyone who needs an extra num pad keys can PM me
As I thought so but I saw some guys in need of extra keys from alpha/space row for whatever layout they are using and my post was more so if someone wants to share an order :)Will there be a TKL version for cheaper of the blank set? If not anyone who needs an extra num pad keys can PM me
I believe this is very unlikely. We're having trouble hitting the MOQ as it is, and fragmenting the buy in any way would only make it worse.
As far as I am aware, there is currently no such thing as Cherry profile black PBT. I will update the OP (and probably extend close date a bit) once I know all the details and pricing for the potential additions to this buy. Full set will only be 104+ set, no smaller PBT sets will be an option.
Yes, did white groupbuy already.
I do that later maybe, I think it would be better with green. All black isn't very elf like.
Previous groupbuys Round 1 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31861.0), Round 2 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.0). Not all options may be pictured, may find them in what got in mail today and what added to keyboard today threads.
What like a 37 set or something?
It's very hard to please everyone about what on winkey...
If you want a 2tone, I think imsto still have some of the medium grey set left, you could buy one of those too and mix match them how you like it.
how about adding a lighter-gray alpha base to this set so we could have a black-legend Dolch :v
Can we have payment deadline set to Febuary, Jan15 is so close to Lunar New Year so I affraid can not pay on time :( after LNY would be much easier for me to arrange the moneyYea pushed back deadline and lowered MOQ would be nice.
You know I think it's nice they can have so much holidays. Not like America when lucky to get week vacation for whole year and half days on a holiday.
Sure, I like the obligatory 24 days of vacation here in Germany, some even have 30 days off.
This still available for ordering? Estimated shipping date?
Yeh depend on how much longer it is until I get price from GMK on ABS extras. Probably extra 3-4 week run time. Ship price for one set international is around $12-14.
Well he said that the deadline will be extended, but he still doesn't know.
Since the OG was Jan 15, I'm going to guess a couple more weeks later? Early- mid February?
Hey guys, slightly noob question: I heard the PBT keycap surfaces (smooth, a bit rough, textured etc) can range from the different manufacteurs. How is this compared to sets like Ducky, IMSTO's sets+other common PBT?
sets? or all they all slightly rough/textured?
Hey Ivan, I might be down for one but I would need an extra 2.25x Shift and a 1x Windows key. Any idea where I might find a matching version of those? Do you or Imsto have these?
Exactly. That would be nice and worth a small premium to me.Hey Ivan, I might be down for one but I would need an extra 2.25x Shift and a 1x Windows key. Any idea where I might find a matching version of those? Do you or Imsto have these?
For FC660M right? If there is enough user of this board I can see about adding to extras add on pack.
PBTs are from imsto, there will also be ABS add on from GMK for ISO, winkeyless, 1.75 shift, and windowed lock keys to go along with it.
imsto PBT are not too rough, but not quite as velvety as BSP or Cherry (if you disregard lasering).
not as dark and the keycaps will be slightly shorter (like 1mm or 2mm) on some rows.WoW... Not as dark? "Pitch Black" might not be the correct term to describe these then. ;D I'll most likely end up jumping in on these next week though because it seems that the entire internet is out of stock of blank black PBT ANSI key caps. :rolleyes:
It can't really be black black, because then only blank, engraved, lasered is possible. It's like rich black vs. process black... it's still black.Show Image(http://www.netsourceinc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blacks.jpg)
Ahhh, I was under the impression that reply was about the text for black on black since he also mentioned engraving. I guess if it's dark, dark gray it's probably not going to be what I'm looking for then. Apologies for wasting anyone's time, but thanks for taking the time to do these group buys!It can't really be black black, because then only blank, engraved, lasered is possible. It's like rich black vs. process black... it's still black.Show Image(http://www.netsourceinc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blacks.jpg)
Hey Ivan, I might be down for one but I would need an extra 2.25x Shift and a 1x Windows key. Any idea where I might find a matching version of those? Do you or Imsto have these?
For FC660M right? If there is enough user of this board I can see about adding to extras add on pack.
So add on pack contents:Would love to see 3x extra bottom row 1x1 in total,
6x windowed top row key
windowed stepped and fulltouch caps lock
deepdish 'scoops' home keys
ISO enter
1.25 shift
1.75 shift
extra 2.25 shift for FC660M
4x 1.5 bottom row
2x extra bottom row 1x1
7x spacebar
Is this good? Or is there anything else that you all feel we need? Looking to finalize the add on pack contents so can get final price from GMK for this so can make it orderable.
So add on pack contents:
6x windowed top row key
windowed stepped and fulltouch caps lock
deepdish 'scoops' home keys
ISO enter
1.25 shift
1.75 shift
extra 2.25 shift for FC660M
4x 1.5 bottom row
2x extra bottom row 1x1
7x spacebar
Is this good? Or is there anything else that you all feel we need? Looking to finalize the add on pack contents so can get final price from GMK for this so can make it orderable.
so just to confirm this is imsto dyesub Thick PBT dyesub right?
so just to confirm this is imsto dyesub Thick PBT dyesub right?
Yes. Ivan is also working on an extension kit that will be GMK ABS.
We have reached the 50% mark to MOQ!
Actually I do have a question.. Seeing how the spacebar is not compatible with leopold, anyone have any idea how it would look with the oem spacebar? I have thin pbt key caps now that I like, but these thick cherry profiles do sound great. I guess I am just concerned of the height that my spacebar would be vs these cherry height keys.I am using similar keys from GMK with the original spacebar from my FC660M. It matches up pretty well, maybe even too good. the space between the spacebar and the Alt is very narrow as the walls are pretty steep.
co can i still get in on a dark side order ? It looks so sweet. are they going to be thick ptb ?
So add on pack contents:
6x windowed top row key
windowed stepped and fulltouch caps lock
deepdish 'scoops' home keys
ISO enter
1.25 shift
1.75 shift
extra 2.25 shift for FC660M
4x 1.5 bottom row
2x extra bottom row 1x1
7x spacebar
Is this good? Or is there anything else that you all feel we need? Looking to finalize the add on pack contents so can get final price from GMK for this so can make it orderable.
Exactly... it's ANSI 104 PBT set and that is currently all that is available here.
There will be an optional add on for color matching BLANK ABS from GMK to make the ANSI 104 PBT set more adaptable for other keyboards. Most of the keys in the add on pack will be things that are simply not available from the PBT keycap factory. When the ABS add on becomes available I will of course try to make that as clear as possible.
i have a question who is making there keys ? also i think a black key set with silver dye subed lettering would look badass ^_^
i have a question who is making there keys ? also i think a black key set with silver dye subed lettering would look badass ^_^
Thanks for the info. ^_^ but i do think that key set would look nice like thati have a question who is making there keys ? also i think a black key set with silver dye subed lettering would look badass ^_^
The main set will be from a factory in China(?) via Imsto and the add-ons from GMK in Germany as the Chinese(?) manufacturer doesn't have the moulds for all the keys desired.
And... impossible - dye sublimation only works with a darker colour than the keycap material. You could etch and in-fill, but "silver" plastics generally don't look like silver, just a sort of pale grey. A "silver" cold enamel (that's an epoxy polymer based paint) would probably give you the best silver colour, they're usually chromium particles suspended in a pale grey.
Due to add on pack coming from different source, and made from different plastic than the full base set... I was planning on wait to receive the PBT, then match as best as possible that with GMK. It would make a small delay, but I think it would ensure the best result with the smallest possible color variance instead of going on color blindly.
So, now just waiting on quote for the ISO/1.5/etc add on pack... and EDox add on from GMK. I sent email for it again today so hopefully I will hear something back soon.
Due to add on pack coming from different source, and made from different plastic than the full base set... I was planning on wait to receive the PBT, then match as best as possible that with GMK. It would make a small delay, but I think it would ensure the best result with the smallest possible color variance instead of going on color blindly.I can't wait, thanks for putting together the group buy.
So, now just waiting on quote for the ISO/1.5/etc add on pack... and EDox add on from GMK. I sent email for it again today so hopefully I will hear something back soon.
Are they all cherry profile? I wanted OEM profile for the black blanks. I like the height :)
Due to add on pack coming from different source, and made from different plastic than the full base set... I was planning on wait to receive the PBT, then match as best as possible that with GMK. It would make a small delay, but I think it would ensure the best result with the smallest possible color variance instead of going on color blindly.
So, now just waiting on quote for the ISO/1.5/etc add on pack... and EDox add on from GMK. I sent email for it again today so hopefully I will hear something back soon.
All my groupbuy is Cherry profile, the only profile that matters!
Those that order only PBT 104 set would not be affected by GMK add on delay.
Today I also find out, there is chance we can make this with Plum factory instead. Plum factory also have 1.5, 1.75 sizes and windowed keycap in PBT. Just waiting to find out how their pricing and MOQ is like versus current.
Yes groupbuy is open for order, please use form link in the first post.
Plum factory make Cherry profile keys that is on Plum 96, Neo Zelia, Choc mini... I haven't had any of those, but from what I have seen they appear to be quite similar.
you only have one active order. your second order overwrote the first one unless you used different email etc.
you would want to make a completely new order ordering 2 sets
you only have one active order. your second order overwrote the first one unless you used different email etc.
you would want to make a completely new order ordering 2 sets
Do you have access to the spreadsheet or is this just an educated guess given past knowledge?
you only have one active order. your second order overwrote the first one unless you used different email etc.
you would want to make a completely new order ordering 2 sets
Do you have access to the spreadsheet or is this just an educated guess given past knowledge?
you only have one active order. your second order overwrote the first one unless you used different email etc.
you would want to make a completely new order ordering 2 sets
Do you have access to the spreadsheet or is this just an educated guess given past knowledge?
Ivan explained earlier in the thread that new orders overwrite old orders. If you placed Order A for one blank set and then later placed Order B for a printed set, the only active order for your name is Order B for the printed set.
you only have one active order. your second order overwrote the first one unless you used different email etc.
you would want to make a completely new order ordering 2 sets
Do you have access to the spreadsheet or is this just an educated guess given past knowledge?
It's more of a common knowledge thing about how it's worked in the past. Not an educated guess :)
I ordered but haven't gotten an invoice yet!
I am definitely interested in these keys, they are going to look awesome combined with the black/beige thick PBT set I already have <3
IT KILLLS me not to get on this set as I have been wanting to try both thick pbt and cherry profile, but no leopold support means a non matching spacebar for me which kills it for me. Leopold why have you forsaken me! :p
really hope this works out man. i would be sorely disappointed if it doesn't :/
IT KILLLS me not to get on this set as I have been wanting to try both thick pbt and cherry profile, but no leopold support means a non matching spacebar for me which kills it for me. Leopold why have you forsaken me! :p
Buy a set anyway, keep it for future boards.
IT KILLLS me not to get on this set as I have been wanting to try both thick pbt and cherry profile, but no leopold support means a non matching spacebar for me which kills it for me. Leopold why have you forsaken me! :p
Buy a set anyway, keep it for future boards.
Better yet - sell the Leopold and buy something that's not a pain to get sets for!
This is always what I say to people when between Filco or Leopold, sooner or later YOU WILL want to change some caps.IT KILLLS me not to get on this set as I have been wanting to try both thick pbt and cherry profile, but no leopold support means a non matching spacebar for me which kills it for me. Leopold why have you forsaken me! :p
Buy a set anyway, keep it for future boards.
Better yet - sell the Leopold and buy something that's not a pain to get sets for!
When I was deciding on my first mech purchase, I was truly torn between the Filco and the Leopold. After reading about the goofy keycaps on the Leopold, it cemented my decision to get the Filco and I couldn't be happier. I think I would have to actively work at finding a set of caps that DONT fit the Filco.
This is always what I say to people when between Filco or Leopold, sooner or later YOU WILL want to change some caps.IT KILLLS me not to get on this set as I have been wanting to try both thick pbt and cherry profile, but no leopold support means a non matching spacebar for me which kills it for me. Leopold why have you forsaken me! :p
Buy a set anyway, keep it for future boards.
Better yet - sell the Leopold and buy something that's not a pain to get sets for!
When I was deciding on my first mech purchase, I was truly torn between the Filco and the Leopold. After reading about the goofy keycaps on the Leopold, it cemented my decision to get the Filco and I couldn't be happier. I think I would have to actively work at finding a set of caps that DONT fit the Filco.
Will you extend the order period or this is a dead end GB? :(
Believe, guys!Yes statistically you are right but consider March is not right around the corner, there are people who ordered in November and may not like to still be part of the GB in March...
At this rate, maybe March we'll hit moq; not even including possible vendors (:
Gogogo
Recently got Filco MJ2 Ninja Tenkeyless ( with MX Brown ) and I placed an order for a blank set ( maybe I should get 2... ? ), I am excited! I really do hope this gets through.
Also first post. :thumb:
Don't worry it's still going. I mentioned before that I am looking into some other source options for a basically identical product. While I am still waiting on all the final details Plum may let us have a lower MOQ and be cheaper. Additionally, they offer 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, windowed keys... all in PBT. I'm not sure about ISO enter or 7x spacebar yet... so at any rate we can get more identical PBT keys from a single source instead of having to match with ABS.
I never added that... there were so few order for it last time I offered dvorak and I have not noticed more than couple request for it.
Don't worry it's still going. I mentioned before that I am looking into some other source options for a basically identical product. While I am still waiting on all the final details Plum may let us have a lower MOQ and be cheaper. Additionally, they offer 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, windowed keys... all in PBT. I'm not sure about ISO enter or 7x spacebar yet... so at any rate we can get more identical PBT keys from a single source instead of having to match with ABS.
Don't worry it's still going. I mentioned before that I am looking into some other source options for a basically identical product. While I am still waiting on all the final details Plum may let us have a lower MOQ and be cheaper. Additionally, they offer 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, windowed keys... all in PBT. I'm not sure about ISO enter or 7x spacebar yet... so at any rate we can get more identical PBT keys from a single source instead of having to match with ABS.
Ahh, very good to know. I canceled my order, but if we're going to get PBT ISO pieces...I may just have to opt back in.
These look great--I'd hate to see this GB go under. 400 sets is a lot, though...
Don't worry it's still going. I mentioned before that I am looking into some other source options for a basically identical product. While I am still waiting on all the final details Plum may let us have a lower MOQ and be cheaper. Additionally, they offer 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, windowed keys... all in PBT. I'm not sure about ISO enter or 7x spacebar yet... so at any rate we can get more identical PBT keys from a single source instead of having to match with ABS.
Ahh, very good to know. I canceled my order, but if we're going to get PBT ISO pieces...I may just have to opt back in.
These look great--I'd hate to see this GB go under. 400 sets is a lot, though...
Don't you prefer ANSI? :p
Don't worry it's still going. I mentioned before that I am looking into some other source options for a basically identical product. While I am still waiting on all the final details Plum may let us have a lower MOQ and be cheaper. Additionally, they offer 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, windowed keys... all in PBT. I'm not sure about ISO enter or 7x spacebar yet... so at any rate we can get more identical PBT keys from a single source instead of having to match with ABS.
Don't worry it's still going. I mentioned before that I am looking into some other source options for a basically identical product. While I am still waiting on all the final details Plum may let us have a lower MOQ and be cheaper. Additionally, they offer 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, windowed keys... all in PBT. I'm not sure about ISO enter or 7x spacebar yet... so at any rate we can get more identical PBT keys from a single source instead of having to match with ABS.
This sounds promising.
I was concerned about this GB going on too long. If it goes long enough, some people who joined in the beginning will forget they joined this then neglect paying the invoice because they moved on to another GB.
I'm still concerned that if we meet 300 a month or so from now, the first 50ish people will change their mind because of the time that passed. Know what i mean.
Believe, guys!Yes statistically you are right but consider March is not right around the corner, there are people who ordered in November and may not like to still be part of the GB in March...
At this rate, maybe March we'll hit moq; not even including possible vendors (:
Gogogo
Oooo, side-printed would be awesome.
I'm working to get sideprinting as an option.
Certainly drop outs is a concern when a buy runs for very long... but there is no real alternative to this available elsewhere so it's a bit different situation than usual.
I'm working to get sideprinting as an option.
Certainly drop outs is a concern when a buy runs for very long... but there is no real alternative to this available elsewhere so it's a bit different situation than usual.
I have never seen a side-printed set in Cherry Profile before. Does such a thing even exist?
Only sideprint laser set exist in Cherry profile before... not have been done with dyesubs yet. It wasn't offered before because dyesub factory had some QC issue with side deform under the high heat... but I think they have made refinement so may be willing to do it now.It's really a good news, beyond my expectation.
I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?
I am not sure where but I heard that they feel scratchy, maybe it is just wrong I don't know either way I ordered a set :))I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?
I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?
I have yet to experience Cherry profile and everyone seems to say they're better than OEM.
Sure, they look a lot nicer, but do any of you guys find that they have a better typing experience?
Also, since they are lower in profile, will O-rings not work with them? Do the stems sink in lower in the switches? Or are they as long as OEM?
Lastly, will there be any Modifier-Only sets? I would like to get the letter keyset, but most of my modifier layouts have been changed (i.e. CapsLock -> Backspace)
and would like to keep my keyboard consistent with my own typing experience by keeping them blank.
I'm tempted to pick up a set, but I want to know a little more about the set before I commit.
I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?
I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?
I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?
I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?
Some people reported the wire of the stabs would grind on the inside of the cap when you press the key.
Perhaps the combo of thick PBT caps in Cherry profile + new (LED friendly) style Costar stabs...
The only way you can get some alternate layout is if you want to meet the minimum 20set tier. If you can do that I will do the set up to print any layout in any font you would like.
I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?
I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?
Some people reported the wire of the stabs would grind on the inside of the cap when you press the key.
Perhaps the combo of thick PBT caps in Cherry profile + new (LED friendly) style Costar stabs...
From what I've read the grinding/hanging issue is pretty hit or miss and only affects costar stabs. Some people don't have any issues and others claim the afflicted keys border on unusable. The fix is usually to lightly sand down the inside wall of the keycap that rubs on the stabilizer.
This post has some good info and even some pictures to illustrate this - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26454#msg497261 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26454#msg497261)
Is there a deadline for this buy? Or does it just go when the MOQ is met? Sorry if this answered somewhere already.No deadline yet, this gb only need to met the MOQ.
Is there a deadline for this buy? Or does it just go when the MOQ is met? Sorry if this answered somewhere already.No deadline yet, this gb only need to met the MOQ.
Some good news, some bad news... in regard to PLUM their MOQ is 100 sets lower which is the good news. The bad news is imsto says there is some problem with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts so they won't make those available to us at this time. So I will go with the original idea to offer blank ABS adapter kit from GMK. GMK promised to have the quote for that and the EDOX kit to me in a few more days so I should be able to get all options finalized and update accordingly by end of week.
Some good news, some bad news... in regard to PLUM their MOQ is 100 sets lower which is the good news. The bad news is imsto says there is some problem with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts so they won't make those available to us at this time. So I will go with the original idea to offer blank ABS adapter kit from GMK. GMK promised to have the quote for that and the EDOX kit to me in a few more days so I should be able to get all options finalized and update accordingly by end of week.
Is the issue with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts an issue at Plum factory? Or at imsto's factory? Or are we still working with imsto to go through plum? I am confuse.
Some good news, some bad news... in regard to PLUM their MOQ is 100 sets lower which is the good news. The bad news is imsto says there is some problem with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts so they won't make those available to us at this time. So I will go with the original idea to offer blank ABS adapter kit from GMK. GMK promised to have the quote for that and the EDOX kit to me in a few more days so I should be able to get all options finalized and update accordingly by end of week.
Some good news, some bad news... in regard to PLUM their MOQ is 100 sets lower which is the good news. The bad news is imsto says there is some problem with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts so they won't make those available to us at this time. So I will go with the original idea to offer blank ABS adapter kit from GMK. GMK promised to have the quote for that and the EDOX kit to me in a few more days so I should be able to get all options finalized and update accordingly by end of week.
Forgive my ignorance, but can you give us some more info about the issue with the 1.5 and 1.75 keys? From what I understand that means we would have three GMK ABS keys and the rest PBT? Personally I would much rather have a higher MOQ if it meant we would have a full PBT set rather than a mixed PBT/ABS set. I use tab and backslash non-stop and for those keys to be ABS would be very close to being a deal-breaker for me.
Edit - Is this graphic correct for which keys would be ABS? http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/keycap_layout.jpg (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/keycap_layout.jpg)
I refuse to use SP for any reason. I ****ing HATE DCS.
I refuse to use SP for any reason. I ****ing HATE DCS.
You preach the truth. I am thankful to find a like-minded individual.
The keys affected as far as I know are the 1.75 right shift, 1.5 ctrl/alt (not a problem unless you have an old keyboard or Korean custom) and possibly ISO keys.
I refuse to use SP for any reason. I ****ing HATE DCS.
You preach the truth. I am thankful to find a like-minded individual.
I have two dcs sets. After using dsa and gmk, I can't go back to dcs.
I can't get past the thinness and the bottom two rows of the dcs profile.
The keys affected as far as I know are the 1.75 right shift, 1.5 ctrl/alt (not a problem unless you have an old keyboard or Korean custom) and possibly ISO keys.
Thank you for clarifying that. So for a Filco board it is essentially a non-issue? I could have a complete PBT set?
How do spherical caps feel? I've always been scared away because they aren't sculptured, but what do you think of them in typing?
The keys affected as far as I know are the 1.75 right shift, 1.5 ctrl/alt (not a problem unless you have an old keyboard or Korean custom) and possibly ISO keys.
Thank you for clarifying that. So for a Filco board it is essentially a non-issue? I could have a complete PBT set?
yes. your filco will 100% pbt.How do spherical caps feel? I've always been scared away because they aren't sculptured, but what do you think of them in typing?
if you're really precise with your typing (always hitting the center) OR you're so unprecise that you end up hitting the corner/side edges of the top surface anyways (me), DSA won't be a problem if you can hold a iphone 4 nicely (so if you're not a tiny asian girl, you're fine), except possibly the f-row. people who are 'medium' accurate will find that they hit the edge of the cap since the top is smaller.
you DO feel like the lack of sculpting in the number row and to a lesser degree, the spacebar row. will that affect typing? for a 60wpm typer, not an issue (for more than that, i can't say). also something to note, for some reason, DSA caps FEEL like there is more than 4mm of tracal, making it easier to not bottom out.
If I placed an order using the form already, can I use the form again to add another set to my order?
If I placed an order using the form already, can I use the form again to add another set to my order?
If you saved the link from your first order you can edit it.
Otherwise you have to place a new order, but keep in mind that you overwrite your first order if you place a second one. So in your case the second order has to contain two separate sets and not just one.
With dyesub you can only have a darker color than the keycap, so on a black set that does limit you to an even darker black for legends. If you want to order 20+ for a specific layout can also have laser option if you would rather to get a lighter legend color. Laser is same price as dyesub.
Still some discussion going on about doing sideprint. It may become an option, just keep an eye on the OP if it appears there. Sideprint dyesub would be same price as rest of printed set.
I just realize it's bad enough seeing legends black on black from the top. Black on black side prints would make it nearly invisible. May as well get blanks.
Classy white or gray prints preferred using any printing method.
Okay, so reading through here again just to see if I missed anything I discover that the "Pitch BLACK" edition blank black set is not actually going to be black, but dark grey like the Realforce keys...
I will be cancelling my order unless I can get truly black PBT blanks. Was looking forward to trying Cherry profile....
I am very disappointed and I suspect a lot of other people will be, too. Was it to reach MOQ by combining the orders for printed and blank (since you can't do dyesub on true black)?
Okay, so reading through here again just to see if I missed anything I discover that the "Pitch BLACK" edition blank black set is not actually going to be black, but dark grey like the Realforce keys...
I will be cancelling my order unless I can get truly black PBT blanks. Was looking forward to trying Cherry profile....
I am very disappointed and I suspect a lot of other people will be, too. Was it to reach MOQ by combining the orders for printed and blank (since you can't do dyesub on true black)?
Okay, so reading through here again just to see if I missed anything I discover that the "Pitch BLACK" edition blank black set is not actually going to be black, but dark grey like the Realforce keys...
I will be cancelling my order unless I can get truly black PBT blanks. Was looking forward to trying Cherry profile....
I am very disappointed and I suspect a lot of other people will be, too. Was it to reach MOQ by combining the orders for printed and blank (since you can't do dyesub on true black)?
I think we are probably arguing shades of grey here but the Realforce keys are pretty dark I mean my "black" Filco keys are not noticeably darker than my Topre keys.
To be honest I am surprised a little too, I am guessing you didn't read the OP since no where it says it is dark gray. One would assume Pitch Black is just a catchy name for a black set which I thought I am ordering. I can't say if the mock up is the real color or the set would be lighter shade or darker but If I wanted dark grey I would rather participate in the GMK group buy than a random factory produced PBT caps.Okay, so reading through here again just to see if I missed anything I discover that the "Pitch BLACK" edition blank black set is not actually going to be black, but dark grey like the Realforce keys...
I will be cancelling my order unless I can get truly black PBT blanks. Was looking forward to trying Cherry profile....
I am very disappointed and I suspect a lot of other people will be, too. Was it to reach MOQ by combining the orders for printed and blank (since you can't do dyesub on true black)?
Ivan never claimed the set will be truly black. Whoever ordered and is now surprised that these are dark gray keys simply didn't read the OP. This is hardly Ivan's fault. "Pitch Black" is just a catchy name for this set like "Raindrop" or "Red Alert".
To be honest I am surprised a little too, I am guessing you didn't read the OP since no where it says it is dark gray. One would assume Pitch Black is just a catchy name for a black set which I thought I am ordering. I can't say if the mock up is the real color or the set would be lighter shade or darker but If I wanted dark grey I would rather participate in the GMK group buy than a random factory produced PBT caps.Okay, so reading through here again just to see if I missed anything I discover that the "Pitch BLACK" edition blank black set is not actually going to be black, but dark grey like the Realforce keys...
I will be cancelling my order unless I can get truly black PBT blanks. Was looking forward to trying Cherry profile....
I am very disappointed and I suspect a lot of other people will be, too. Was it to reach MOQ by combining the orders for printed and blank (since you can't do dyesub on true black)?
Ivan never claimed the set will be truly black. Whoever ordered and is now surprised that these are dark gray keys simply didn't read the OP. This is hardly Ivan's fault. "Pitch Black" is just a catchy name for this set like "Raindrop" or "Red Alert".
I actually googled "what is pitch black". Ended up showing some movie results. :(
Is it possible to do Rich Black on blanks and Process Black on printed?
Is there a difference between imsto and plum in terms of quality?
How about the smoothness of the stem? That's one thing people have been repeating about IMSTO keys, that the stem doesn't add any extra friction to depressing keys. & do the PLUM keycaps have sharp/pointy corners?
These 2 things I was really looking forward to.
Wallet officially hacked, let's get to this MOQ guys!
Any news on the sideprinted option?
I'd add a set of those to my current order :)
Wait plum didn't work out? Will ISO still be ABS?
My QFR with thick grey PBT from Feng...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2PYfhpx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TU1OyNA.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7RVDsUR.jpg)
Here's a post with some pics of the caps if anyone is wondering. I'm thinking they will look the exact same as this set?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40637.msg820343#msg820343My QFR with thick grey PBT from Feng...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2PYfhpx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TU1OyNA.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7RVDsUR.jpg)
Here's a post with some pics of the caps if anyone is wondering. I'm thinking they will look the exact same as this set?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40637.msg820343#msg820343My QFR with thick grey PBT from Feng...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2PYfhpx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TU1OyNA.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7RVDsUR.jpg)
No this is wrong these are not the keys.
Here's a post with some pics of the caps if anyone is wondering. I'm thinking they will look the exact same as this set?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40637.msg820343#msg820343My QFR with thick grey PBT from Feng...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2PYfhpx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TU1OyNA.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7RVDsUR.jpg)
No this is wrong these are not the keys.
I believe these are black, not dark grey like yours.
Here's a post with some pics of the caps if anyone is wondering. I'm thinking they will look the exact same as this set?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40637.msg820343#msg820343My QFR with thick grey PBT from Feng...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2PYfhpx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TU1OyNA.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7RVDsUR.jpg)
No this is wrong these are not the keys.
I believe these are black, not dark grey like yours.
No the GMK adapter kits will be separate items and additional cost. I haven't added them to the form yet because I still don't have pricing. I guess they are having a tough time trying to locate the vertical 1.5 keys for the EDOX pack.
I filled a form forever ago, just making sure there isn't a new one. How can I check my order? Thanks.
I will know for sure sometime after the Lunar New Year holiday period about the sideprint.
We are getting close... only ~40 PBT sets away from MOQ.
Order count (2.2.14):
PBT full sets: 258/300
GMK standard: 9/400
GMK EDOX: 2/400
The gmk addon will also be black?
The gmk addon will also be black?
Yes, it will be color matched.
The gmk addon will also be black?
Yes, it will be color matched.
Great, will order at least three just for the windowed caps
Add on standard offers you:
Windowed caps/num/scroll lock keys
ISO
Cherry deepdish home keys
1.5 mods and 7x spacebar for vintage/customs
1.75 shift for 75%/Pure/1800
extra 2.25 shift for FC660M
Did you read the OP? This GB includes blank process black :))
Ivan,
will you ever run a GB for blank rich black (or even darker if possible)?
sorry if this has been asked before, but i REALLY want it. I'm still sticking to this GB, but if you are definitely either GOING TO or NOT going to do a GB for rich black, I want to make a mental note of it.
Only need to resubmit if you are interested in the other options that have been added.
I can only make it so dark and still have printing, but it will be as dark as can be with the printing still at least vaguely visible. I am not sure there is enough interest to make MOQ with blank only... this would be very hard I think. As of now the total order is still about half blank half printed. I think this is one of those instances where small compromises need to be made to get anything into production at all.
side print option dead or there is still hope for it ?
You want blank, you will have it. All I am saying, is we can't have it too dark black, because then printing is impossible. Without printed set, nothing get made because blank only not enough orders to carry the buy into moq.
You want blank, you will have it. All I am saying, is we can't have it too dark black, because then printing is impossible. Without printed set, nothing get made because blank only not enough orders to carry the buy into moq.
Playing devil's advocate (I like the RF charcoal regardless), I can't imagine printing would be "impossible", would it? The machines physically don't work if the keys are too dark? The printing might be incredibly difficult to see, but the odds of the printing being the exact same black seems truly "impossible", at least to a layman like me. And surely dye-sub/double-shooting causes some degree of marking, however faint.
I get that you're not manufacturing them yourself so you're at the whim of the keymaker's statements, whatever they say ultimately is what is available.
Will these black Plum keycaps be as thick as these?Show Image(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/d20657e4.jpg)
Because if so, damn.
Will these black Plum keycaps be as thick as these?Show Image(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/d20657e4.jpg)
Because if so, damn.
PLUM is just same thick like the Cherry one imsto and I have before. That photo is of original vintage Cherry ones from around 1986.
PLUM does make POM too (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49081.0). Maybe we can try to do a groupbuy for that again sometime... it had a pretty low price I am not sure why it didn't go very far. POM is very nice too.
PLUM does make POM too (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49081.0). Maybe we can try to do a groupbuy for that again sometime... it had a pretty low price I am not sure why it didn't go very far. POM is very nice too.
that was a REALLY low MOQ. it should have been a smashing success :(
I haven't touch them myself yet, but judge from photo texture will be more on finer side like other Cherry profile PBTs.
I haven't touch them myself yet, but judge from photo texture will be more on finer side like other Cherry profile PBTs.
Can we see pictures, or are you just going off previous imsto sets you've seen? Thanks
Also, am I reading this right? It takes an additional 6-7 weeks after the GB closes to actually make the keys?
My production time is more a rough estimate. First the keys need to be made as this color is not something they will have standing stock on which will need to be fit into their production schedule. After that the sets that need printing need to go to another party for dyesub... then transit time.
You can see the keys we will be getting on white Choc mini, Plum 96 or Neo Zelia photo.
Thread needs more vendors. I wish I had $5k sitting around just to buy a few dozen sets - these will sell on ebay even with a nice mark up.
GMK add ons each have a minimum of 400 to go to production.
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GMK standard: 30/400
GMK EDOX: 6/250
hmm.. ok shipping internationally - arround 12-14$
so these will be shipped right after we reach the 300 PBT orders?
Blank-Black ordered :)
Sorry to be asking so many questions, but will these be the super thick ones or the standard thick?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GyxtBtH.jpg)
umm how do I change my order?
thinking of getting a blank set on top of my black on black
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Just going through old photos in the clack thread and saw this photo by jil_jil32.
Hoo boy am I excited for Realforce black.
What look cheap? The pad print? If that what you think make it look cheap then it's not even a concern since we aren't doing that.
PBTs are almost to MOQ :D
Show Image(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TyTAuipR8cA/UMmZ3NcsRtI/AAAAAAAAClE/1IqqMQeF22U/s1000/151.png)
Just going through old photos in the clack thread and saw this photo by jil_jil32.
Hoo boy am I excited for Realforce black.
I am the opposite, if I can't see my keys I can't type. YES I'm old, lazy and incompetent, so I will never be able to type without watching the keyboard and at night I might as well be like Stevie Wonder........
It should only take about a week to become fluent in touch typing. The best way to learn is by getting a set of blank keys. (;
Show Image(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TyTAuipR8cA/UMmZ3NcsRtI/AAAAAAAAClE/1IqqMQeF22U/s1000/151.png)
Just going through old photos in the clack thread and saw this photo by jil_jil32.
Hoo boy am I excited for Realforce black.
I am the opposite, if I can't see my keys I can't type. YES I'm old, lazy and incompetent, so I will never be able to type without watching the keyboard and at night I might as well be like Stevie Wonder........
damn, I don't know if I put an order in. Is there anyway to check?
Thanks
I am looking for link of round 1. Please help me if you know. Thanks :)
Windows logo is left aligned, consistent with other icons shift arrow, enter arrow etc.It seems to be a bit higher than Control and others ie. vertically offcenter.
Oh I see what you mean. Can be fixed for production.Great job. Ordered it just now, I sure hope we hit MOQ.
What happens if we don't reach 300 orders by March 1st?
Order count (22.2.14):
PBT full sets: 283/300
GMK standard: 32/400
GMK EDOX: 7/250
QuoteOrder count (22.2.14):
PBT full sets: 283/300
GMK standard: 32/400
GMK EDOX: 7/250
Umm call me a noob but I want an Ergodox set. So there's no chance of that happening, right? Or is the 250 number just for a cheaper price?
Ivan could u confirm i have ordered 1 blank set? I think i used not my paypal email also...
Order deadline will be firm. As long as there isn't another big rash of cancellations I will just use some of my tax return to buy the rest of the sets and sell them later.
Order deadline will be firm. As long as there isn't another big rash of cancellations I will just use some of my tax return to buy the rest of the sets and sell them later.
Wow, just wanted to say thank you for this. I'm excited for this to get underway, it sounds like our orders will be in very, very good hands.
Order deadline will be firm. As long as there isn't another big rash of cancellations I will just use some of my tax return to buy the rest of the sets and sell them later.
As far as the GMK bits... I will leave that running for a little more. It had much less time and exposure. I need to get a picture of what those are too... I have been really lazy about getting that done, and that usually helps a great deal. Even a very detailed list like I have in the OP now only helps for people that know what the hell it means.
I will try offering Hebrew next PBT groupbuy. I just haven't had time to make the legends/found a suitable Cherry like font to use for it yet.
Ivan could u confirm i have ordered 1 blank set? I think i used not my paypal email also...
Same for me. I haven't gotten anything in my email asking me to pay for anything yet. Can you confirm for me what I have ordered and when I need to go about paying for it?
Ivan I am trying to order a set of the black on black PBT caps and the order form is telling me I have to order a blank set as well as black on black before I can submit the form. Is this true? I didn't see this written anywhere in the OP. I could also just be an idiot and missing something really simple.
Ivan I am trying to order a set of the black on black PBT caps and the order form is telling me I have to order a blank set as well as black on black before I can submit the form. Is this true? I didn't see this written anywhere in the OP. I could also just be an idiot and missing something really simple.
If it's saying you have to enter a number just enter 0
Orders close at end of today for the full sets.
Awesome, thanks. Whether I like the set or not seems to depend so much on the lighting for the particular sample picture taken....
E: How much would it be for shipping to Canada for a blank set?
Awesome, thanks. Whether I like the set or not seems to depend so much on the lighting for the particular sample picture taken....
E: How much would it be for shipping to Canada for a blank set?
You can check your orders HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AgnwXcpLx2NpdGdDeVVEY3AyUThKN3Z4M3h6Z0hQR1E&output=html).
As always, invoicing is not done until orders close.
Will begin the invoicing soon.
Will begin the invoicing soon.
Dat gif! :DWill begin the invoicing soon.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/i9fPA.gif)
Ivan, I haven't gotten an email to pay for my order, and when I looked at the list of confirmed orders I didn't even see my email on it - though I did see my user name. Can you let me know what to do in this situation?
Yes I removed personal information for posted order check sheet as most people don't like such things like the email, real name, mailing address to be shown to the world. I have been busy this week so I have not sent any invoice yet. I will probably start send the invoice next week.Alright. Also is there any time frame for when these will start production and then shipping?
Ah shoot! Looks like I missed this one by a few days.
Oh well, I'll have to keep an eye on the classifieds later :)
To be fair this GB was open for a very, very long time.
You can try messaging Ivan, he may be willing to include you in the batch.
Generally I give 7-10 day to make payment. If everything is paid sooner, I can pay production sooner... production starts sooner... you get them sooner...
Generally I give 7-10 day to make payment. If everything is paid sooner, I can pay production sooner... production starts sooner... you get them sooner...
How long to pay these invoices Ivan?
Generally I give 7-10 day to make payment. If everything is paid sooner, I can pay production sooner... production starts sooner... you get them sooner...
So we have about 6 hours left, gotta make my decision since i forgot all about this
To pay the invoice...So we have about 6 hours left, gotta make my decision since i forgot all about this
6 hrs for what? the buy closed on the first...
Paid my invoice 8-)
Before I pay invoice, what's going on the the standard pack? Do we get a separate invoice for that later?
To pay the invoice...So we have about 6 hours left, gotta make my decision since i forgot all about this
6 hrs for what? the buy closed on the first...
Paid my invoice 8-)
Before I pay invoice, what's going on the the standard pack? Do we get a separate invoice for that later?
I only started invoice... finished through username start a-j only. I will only be invoicing for full set orders. Smaller packs to be invoiced later if applicable.
Orders will be declared to $10, unless insurance is requested.
To pay the invoice...So we have about 6 hours left, gotta make my decision since i forgot all about this
6 hrs for what? the buy closed on the first...
Paid my invoice 8-)
Is the GMK add on going to be produced? If so, any chance to get into the GB for one addon set?. I know I am very late, but jusk asking.
Is the GMK add on going to be produced? If so, any chance to get into the GB for one addon set?. I know I am very late, but jusk asking.
One post above your post he said the GMK pack must make MOQ, so far it has not.
Is the GMK add on going to be produced? If so, any chance to get into the GB for one addon set?. I know I am very late, but jusk asking.
One post above your post he said the GMK pack must make MOQ, so far it has not.
it was what I thought, sorry for not reading carefully. At work my boss has begun to suspect that I am not working while I am writing in this window with emoticons at the top. :D
Just paid! I can't wait to get these things!
Just to be clear - I got the blank black ones right?
I'll pay the invoice in next week, sorry but the money comes a little late :(
Unfortunately I'm going to have to pull out of this now, found myself without a job today.
I'll pay the invoice in next week, sorry but the money comes a little late :(
Don't worry, I can pay it for you, freely.
Wait, but then I will take them all :p
Paid earlier today at work. what do we do now?
We still have 52! unpaid orders. Please pay your invoices.
We still have 52! unpaid orders. Please pay your invoices.52, god damn. If I had some money I'd help you out and pick up a few of the extras. Still might, but I just bought a bunch of keycaps and a new hard drive. If there are still a ton left after my next paycheck comes though, I'll pick some up. Also there should be some way to hold people accountable for not going through on group buys. It's really a **** move. You should only promise to pay if you actually can.
I don't even have a post count and I payed mine the day I got the email. I've never done a group buy, I just assumed when someone signs up for something like this they have the money to hand and set it aside. I guess not.
When I ordered, I had plenty of cash :p
Now the paypal's empty :'(
But I do have plenty of **** at my house that I will sell if I can't get the money by the deadline ;D
I sent out final notices. I hope most people will take care of things... if not I suppose orders will have to reopen as I certainly can't swing so many sets myself.
I sent out final notices. I hope most people will take care of things... if not I suppose orders will have to reopen as I certainly can't swing so many sets myself.
I'll need to take some time to get everything checked on paid orders and take away those that have cancelled to get a proper total... but at a quick glance I guess orders will need to reopen for a little bit as we are at least 40 sets short now. I have a vendor that has expressed some interest in possibly taking care of half that so fingers crossed we can get back to MOQ again fairly quick as not to cause a long delay for those that paid promptly.Sorry it had to come to this. Like I said before, I might be able to grab a second when my next pay check comes.
I'll need to take some time to get everything checked on paid orders and take away those that have cancelled to get a proper total... but at a quick glance I guess orders will need to reopen for a little bit as we are at least 40 sets short now. I have a vendor that has expressed some interest in possibly taking care of half that so fingers crossed we can get back to MOQ again fairly quick as not to cause a long delay for those that paid promptly.
For those interested in picking up full sets please PM to me with the following:
email address, real name and physical mailing address (if you are outside the US a telephone number for the customs form) and what you would like.
example:
ivanivanovich@mail.su
Ivan Ivanovich
Kremlin
Moscow, Russia, 103073
+7 495 695-37-76
1 blank set
Thanks.
Only applies to new orders to pick up unpaid/cancelled orders so we can return to MOQ.
If you have already paid your order and do not want anything additional you do not need to do anything further.
For those interested in picking up full sets please PM to me with the following:
email address, real name and physical mailing address (if you are outside the US a telephone number for the customs form) and what you would like.
example:
ivanivanovich@mail.su
Ivan Ivanovich
Kremlin
Moscow, Russia, 103073
+7 495 695-37-76
1 blank set
Thanks.
Anyone order a blank set? How much did it come to shipped to the US?
Invoice received and paid!
Kind of wish I added the ergodox layout, if you want to re-invoice me with that one included I'll pay for it also.
Invoice received and paid!
Kind of wish I added the ergodox layout, if you want to re-invoice me with that one included I'll pay for it also.
I do not believe the ergodox is available as it did not meet the MOQ.
Anyone order a blank set? How much did it come to shipped to the US?
Any style. MOQ is for total sets so it doesn't matter which ones at all as long as it's 300 all together.Okay, let me think about this, I might be down for blank :thumb:
I wish there was an option to buy a blank set and side print it in Russian.
We are currently 24 sets short to MOQ. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get back.
We are currently 24 sets short to MOQ. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get back.
Is this only for the GMK addons or would it still be posible to order a black on black PBT set?
We are currently 24 sets short to MOQ. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get back.
Is this only for the GMK addons or would it still be posible to order a black on black PBT set?
It is possible to order black on black, PM Ivan and he'll send you an invoice.
I'm still not sure my choice of blanks was the best idea, I need to decide...
Either way these things are going to be awesome but I just don't know what I want :-\
I'm still not sure my choice of blanks was the best idea, I need to decide...
Either way these things are going to be awesome but I just don't know what I want :-\
Get both:)
I've been thinking of setting blanks to modifier keys and regular ones on letters/numbers.
Still thinking....
Still need 10 more set ordered.
I'm from the UK so would only be interested if I could get the ISO mods with the set. Does "GMK standard: 33/400" mean that only 33 others have ordered the ISO mods and they're not going to be produced?
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE - $75are awesome!!!
...butQuoteAurebesh:DARKSIDE - $75are awesome!!!
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...butQuoteAurebesh:DARKSIDE - $75are awesome!!!
+1
Those are part of the 300~ sets to be produced
Those are part of the 300~ sets to be produced
Even better...(opens wallet, moths fly out)
Dern...
Looking forward to the Novelty Keycap GB coming up...
Go IVAN!!!
This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
Going to stick with the options already present though Alienese could be possible for next time if enough are interested.Aww yiss, I think they would look better on a classic beige or grey theme anyway.
This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
Picked up two cancelled orders.:D Yay thanks, it will be totally worth it guys, just a few more!!!
I would gladly change it back if geekhack found a way to improve avatar image quality. I use the planet express logo on every other website and service but it just looks TERRIBLE on here. It is so crystal clear on OCN and it is depressing to look at on here.This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
+1
Also, bummed you changed your avatar way back when. :p
I would gladly change it back if geekhack found a way to improve avatar image quality. I use the planet express logo on every other website and service but it just looks TERRIBLE on here. It is so crystal clear on OCN and it is depressing to look at on here.This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
+1
Also, bummed you changed your avatar way back when. :p
Yes, it does it no matter what. I have tried everything and it always looks terrible.I would gladly change it back if geekhack found a way to improve avatar image quality. I use the planet express logo on every other website and service but it just looks TERRIBLE on here. It is so crystal clear on OCN and it is depressing to look at on here.This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
+1
Also, bummed you changed your avatar way back when. :p
Does it still compress if you "Specify avatar by URL"?
MoreI would gladly change it back if geekhack found a way to improve avatar image quality. I use the planet express logo on every other website and service but it just looks TERRIBLE on here. It is so crystal clear on OCN and it is depressing to look at on here.This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
+1
Also, bummed you changed your avatar way back when. :p
Does it still compress if you "Specify avatar by URL"?
Yes, it does it no matter what. I have tried everything and it always looks terrible.
Yes, it does it no matter what. I have tried everything and it always looks terrible.I would gladly change it back if geekhack found a way to improve avatar image quality. I use the planet express logo on every other website and service but it just looks TERRIBLE on here. It is so crystal clear on OCN and it is depressing to look at on here.This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
+1
Also, bummed you changed your avatar way back when. :p
Does it still compress if you "Specify avatar by URL"?
:DYes, it does it no matter what. I have tried everything and it always looks terrible.I would gladly change it back if geekhack found a way to improve avatar image quality. I use the planet express logo on every other website and service but it just looks TERRIBLE on here. It is so crystal clear on OCN and it is depressing to look at on here.This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
+1
Also, bummed you changed your avatar way back when. :p
Does it still compress if you "Specify avatar by URL"?
Sorry bro. I wish it didn't look poopy. Glad you changed it back though! :-*
Want a clear good scaling avatar? Use a .png!It is .png lol
Hehehee... now is it above 256x256? It looks fine for me in Firefox 31 viewed at 1440p anyway. If it was me I would delete the background color box though.it's 800x800 and clear backgrounds turn into solid black when used on GH.
Strange... when I use transparent they stay as such.
Use a better source (http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs25/i/2008/064/e/9/Planet_Express_Logo_by_Comrade_Max.png)? Problem solved.This is the image I want to use, I have it in various sizes, it doesn't work :'(
Hehehee... now is it above 256x256? It looks fine for me in Firefox 31 viewed at 1440p anyway. If it was me I would delete the background color box though.it's 800x800 and clear backgrounds turn into solid black when used on GH.
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE - $75Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Still need 10 more order. If I could afford to take more orders myself for post sale I would.
So how many short are we here? It was 10 short last week when I ordered, it's 10 this week and 2 people yesterday ordered. Rumor has it last month we were still 10 short. Can we stop saying 10 and use the real number so we can actually push to get this to production?
Even though people have placed orders I have not been counting them until they go to paid status. Assuming the few people that placed their orders over the last couple days pay them shortly our goal will now be met. For anyone that has been on the fence about placing an order today is the last day I will take any new orders.
was directed here from reddit and.... you need 10 more orders right? MIGHT be interested, dependent on how much shipping to malaysia would be.
if its reasonable imo, i might get 4-5 sets to mark up and sell here. but if it's not reasonable I'll just skip.. let me know?
FYI, never knew black on black could be so sexy. <3
was directed here from reddit and.... you need 10 more orders right? MIGHT be interested, dependent on how much shipping to malaysia would be.Just shoot him a pm
if its reasonable imo, i might get 4-5 sets to mark up and sell here. but if it's not reasonable I'll just skip.. let me know?
FYI, never knew black on black could be so sexy. <3
was directed here from reddit and.... you need 10 more orders right? MIGHT be interested, dependent on how much shipping to malaysia would be.
if its reasonable imo, i might get 4-5 sets to mark up and sell here. but if it's not reasonable I'll just skip.. let me know?
FYI, never knew black on black could be so sexy. <3
Even though people have placed orders I have not been counting them until they go to paid status. Assuming the few people that placed their orders over the last couple days pay them shortly our goal will now be met. For anyone that has been on the fence about placing an order today is the last day I will take any new orders.
Hooray for this set finally going to production. It's been a long journey for some here (myself not included) Excited for both my first PBT set and my first set of blanks. I just hope PBT doesn't spoil all the ABS sets I've shelled out for already for me :P
Gratz everyone on the reached MOQ, so the wait begins!
Gratz everyone on the reached MOQ, so the wait begins!
When did Ivan say we reached MOQ?
In the OPGratz everyone on the reached MOQ, so the wait begins!
When did Ivan say we reached MOQ?
Yes now we are all ready to go as soon as I have all the final info from PLUM. I will keep you all updated when I know definite time table for production and etc.That feel...
I know this buy was a long road and thanks to all of you that stuck with it.
Yes now we are all ready to go as soon as I have all the final info from PLUM. I will keep you all updated when I know definite time table for production and etc.
I know this buy was a long road and thanks to all of you that stuck with it.
Yes now we are all ready to go as soon as I have all the final info from PLUM. I will keep you all updated when I know definite time table for production and etc.u da man, man
I know this buy was a long road and thanks to all of you that stuck with it.
Yes now we are all ready to go as soon as I have all the final info from PLUM. I will keep you all updated when I know definite time table for production and etc.
I know this buy was a long road and thanks to all of you that stuck with it.
Also throwing in my vote for the 108s, although I would be fine with just 104s. Wouldn't mind paying an extra dollar or two if that's what it comes down to.
I am trying to negotiate them to add the extra 4 keys at the same price point. While waiting to see how that goes imsto should have some sample keys from PLUM real soon to make sure it's the color we want and to check the dyesub goes well on them before the order is finaled.
I am trying to negotiate them to add the extra 4 keys at the same price point. While waiting to see how that goes imsto should have some sample keys from PLUM real soon to make sure it's the color we want and to check the dyesub goes well on them before the order is finaled.
I will get the entire order at once. How long it takes me to send out the individual orders will depend, but typically I get it done in 1-2 weeks after receive.
I still have not heard back regarding dyesub test yet.
Wont the people who just got blanks get them a bit sooner?I hope :P
Wont the people who just got blanks get them a bit sooner?I hope :P
Wont the people who just got blanks get them a bit sooner?
Hear hear. ^-^Wont the people who just got blanks get them a bit sooner?Hasn't been that way the previous 2 rounds, don't put too much into this.
Let Ivan handle this the way he has the past times and don't have unrealistic expectations. Expect 4-6 weeks at a minimum after Ivan gets the sample to verify the dyesubbing.
Check the previous groupbuy threads to see how progress and information was doled out, there is a track record to this and an established pattern.
You were warned about the wait prior to signing up. This is a GROUP buy. It is a purchase as a group and no one is a special snowflake. I expect my blank and my dyesubbed set to show up at the same time and with the same level of QC and handling for both.
There will be updates and QC and all that good stuff so we get a great product. I am not going to be expecting a rush just for impatience.
Patience is a virtue.
It was simply asked because the blank ones aren't going to need any dyesubbing, therefore that is one less step. The person didn't mean anything by it and surely wasn't looking for any special treatment. If in the past the blank shipped at the same time as the dyesubbed, okay, that is all they needed to know. No need to be so offended by a simple question.Wont the people who just got blanks get them a bit sooner?
Hasn't been that way the previous 2 rounds, don't put too much into this.
Let Ivan handle this the way he has the past times and don't have unrealistic expectations. Expect 4-6 weeks at a minimum after Ivan gets the sample to verify the dyesubbing.
Check the previous groupbuy threads to see how progress and information was doled out, there is a track record to this and an established pattern.
You were warned about the wait prior to signing up. This is a GROUP buy. It is a purchase as a group and no one is a special snowflake. I expect my blank and my dyesubbed set to show up at the same time and with the same level of QC and handling for both.
There will be updates and QC and all that good stuff so we get a great product. I am not going to be expecting a rush just for impatience.
Patience is a virtue.
Wont the people who just got blanks get them a bit sooner?
Hasn't been that way the previous 2 rounds, don't put too much into this.
Let Ivan handle this the way he has the past times and don't have unrealistic expectations. Expect 4-6 weeks at a minimum after Ivan gets the sample to verify the dyesubbing.
Check the previous groupbuy threads to see how progress and information was doled out, there is a track record to this and an established pattern.
You were warned about the wait prior to signing up. This is a GROUP buy. It is a purchase as a group and no one is a special snowflake. I expect my blank and my dyesubbed set to show up at the same time and with the same level of QC and handling for both.
There will be updates and QC and all that good stuff so we get a great product. I am not going to be expecting a rush just for impatience.
Patience is a virtue.
The 4 extra top row keys will be included in each set. Obviously will also be blank on blank set, US set will have I - IV, US/RU will have some additional Soviet icons, Aurebesh will have some additional dark side icons.
The 4 extra top row keys will be included in each set. Obviously will also be blank on blank set, US set will have I - IV, US/RU will have some additional Soviet icons, Aurebesh will have some additional dark side icons.I love you. :-*
The 4 extra top row keys will be included in each set. Obviously will also be blank on blank set, US set will have I - IV, US/RU will have some additional Soviet icons, Aurebesh will have some additional dark side icons.Woohoo. This is cool.
The 4 extra top row keys will be included in each set. Obviously will also be blank on blank set, US set will have I - IV, US/RU will have some additional Soviet icons, Aurebesh will have some additional dark side icons.
No big deal waiting.
The thing i'm more worried about is these being equal thickness to IMSTO caps.... since at the time of signing up thats what I thought I was buying. Changing the manufacturer mid-buy has me a little uneasy. I realize I could have backed out when PLUM was mentioned (before final payment), but I still want as thick as possible cherry profile black pbt.
& like I said, if they're equal to IMSTO caps I will be happy.
Yes PLUM manufactures keycaps, in this case standard layout, cherry profile, thick pbt keycaps.
Well that's news to me. All I've read is IMSTO, IMSTO, IMSTO, in these threads. Who the hell is PLUM?We switched over to PLUM as the manufacturer because imsto can't do something (forgot what it was); Ivan expects it to be the same thickness and quality so I don't worry much about it. We will see.
Ivan?
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit worried now..
Well that's news to me. All I've read is IMSTO, IMSTO, IMSTO, in these threads. Who the hell is PLUM?We switched over to PLUM as the manufacturer because imsto can't do something (forgot what it was); Ivan expects it to be the same thickness and quality so I don't worry much about it. We will see.
Ivan?
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit worried now..
Well that's news to me. All I've read is IMSTO, IMSTO, IMSTO, in these threads. Who the hell is PLUM?
Ivan?
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit worried now..
Yes please do not worry. You can be confident I would not go with some poor quality product. Plum make the Choc mini, and you can see it is some thick Cherry profile. From all I heard from Choc owner the keycap is good disregarding the lasering/pad printing which is irrelevant for us.Show Image(http://coolgadgetsli.blog.com/files/2011/07/noppoo-choc-mini-84-usb-nkro-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-black-blue-18.jpg)
Just to confirm what other have responded, yes the keycap source was switch due to lower MOQ with Plum that was possible to reach. I felt switching from KBC was better option that not getting anything.
I think some of you guys already answered these questions the same as me. :))
But yes you are exactly right. This is a first for many things. First time dealing with PLUM as a keycap source, first time of Cherry black PBTs, first time of imstos dyesub peeps dealing with dyesubbing on black... there will need to be extra checks to ensure everything comes out in the best way possible to avoid a big disappointment.
Shipping cost is also the exact reason I don't do splits on blank and printed as it makes no sense to pay shipping to me 2x. While I could do that, I would need to increase group buy fees to cover such thing.
Yes please do not worry. You can be confident I would not go with some poor quality product. Plum make the Choc mini, and you can see it is some thick Cherry profile. From all I heard from Choc owner the keycap is good disregarding the lasering/pad printing which is irrelevant for us.Show Image(http://coolgadgetsli.blog.com/files/2011/07/noppoo-choc-mini-84-usb-nkro-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-black-blue-18.jpg)
Just to confirm what other have responded, yes the keycap source was switch due to lower MOQ with Plum that was possible to reach. I felt switching from KBC was better option that not getting anything.
I thought the Choc Mini came with POM key caps?
Yes please do not worry. You can be confident I would not go with some poor quality product. Plum make the Choc mini, and you can see it is some thick Cherry profile. From all I heard from Choc owner the keycap is good disregarding the lasering/pad printing which is irrelevant for us.Show Image(http://coolgadgetsli.blog.com/files/2011/07/noppoo-choc-mini-84-usb-nkro-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-black-blue-18.jpg)
Just to confirm what other have responded, yes the keycap source was switch due to lower MOQ with Plum that was possible to reach. I felt switching from KBC was better option that not getting anything.
Hotlinking is off, but you can follow the link: http://i1.3conline.com/images/piclib/201201/04/batch/1/123632/1325674614422ssrhx4tn6e.jpg
Yes please do not worry. You can be confident I would not go with some poor quality product. Plum make the Choc mini, and you can see it is some thick Cherry profile. From all I heard from Choc owner the keycap is good disregarding the lasering/pad printing which is irrelevant for us.Show Image(http://coolgadgetsli.blog.com/files/2011/07/noppoo-choc-mini-84-usb-nkro-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-black-blue-18.jpg)
Just to confirm what other have responded, yes the keycap source was switch due to lower MOQ with Plum that was possible to reach. I felt switching from KBC was better option that not getting anything.
I think someone who doesn't have both hand in hand shouldn't speculate. This is seeming kind of sensationalist over something you actually haven't seen for yourself?
Thickness doesn't look any different to me in those pictures... You are comparing black parts to light blue parts, black is going to look a little smaller/thinner, plus the angles of the pictures on those plum pictures are far from ideal to tell in the first place.
I have a KBT race which I believe has thick pbt. [they are definitely pbt] and some thick pbt from SP coming. I've never had GMK but if someone would ship me a key I could let you know the difference.
I have a KBT race which I believe has thick pbt. [they are definitely pbt] and some thick pbt from SP coming. I've never had GMK but if someone would ship me a key I could let you know the difference.
Thick PBT and SP don't belong in the same sentence, sorry friend.
so the people who paid as early as february/march are still waiting right?
I've been itching to find a black on black key set for my new board and I just can't find any I'm more interested in than this one. I'm a touch late to the party to get in on this deal but if any of you plan to sell yours keep me in mind! ;D
I've been itching to find a black on black key set for my new board and I just can't find any I'm more interested in than this one. I'm a touch late to the party to get in on this deal but if any of you plan to sell yours keep me in mind! ;D
I've been itching to find a black on black key set for my new board and I just can't find any I'm more interested in than this one. I'm a touch late to the party to get in on this deal but if any of you plan to sell yours keep me in mind! ;D
If you don't mind waiting at least a month for them, start looking in the Classifieds section once these ship. It'll still be a while (getting samples, starting production, getting the dyesub samples, printing, shipping, etc). I ordered 4 sets to help meet MOQ and may consider selling one of them.... or maybe not, depending how much I like them :)
I've been itching to find a black on black key set for my new board and I just can't find any I'm more interested in than this one. I'm a touch late to the party to get in on this deal but if any of you plan to sell yours keep me in mind! ;D
I put in for a set of blanks and a set of dyesub, so I might sell one or the other depending on which I like more.
Just keep your eyes open once all the sets have shipped, I'm sure there will be some who want to part with a set or two :D
If you don't mind waiting at least a month for them, start looking in the Classifieds section once these ship. It'll still be a while (getting samples, starting production, getting the dyesub samples, printing, shipping, etc). I ordered 4 sets to help meet MOQ and may consider selling one of them.... or maybe not, depending how much I like them :)
Do you have a picture of blanks by any chance?
I have one set of blank potentially up for transfer if some one wants it :)
Well it comes out to $60 after fees and shipping. if you want it pm me.I have one set of blank potentially up for transfer if some one wants it :)
I'll take it if you'd like your $55 back.
If you two go through with that, be sure to PM Ivan.Yep sure will. Actually Ivan told me to do it this way for less hassle. Thanks for the heads up tactical!
Well it comes out to $60 after fees and shipping. if you want it pm me.I have one set of blank potentially up for transfer if some one wants it :)
I'll take it if you'd like your $55 back.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. The pp fee and shipping comes out to about $5 per set, so if you want to take my place I would need $60 sent to me.So you'll take $55 then?Well it comes out to $60 after fees and shipping. if you want it pm me.I have one set of blank potentially up for transfer if some one wants it :)
I'll take it if you'd like your $55 back.
Also looking for a blank set, if anyone wants to sell theirs or sell their spot. Will pay $60-70.I have one blank set willing to let go, but it will be complicated to transfer my order to you since I joined total orders with a friend.
As I understand it, PLUM is still waiting for the particular PBT material (still for the sample run) to be delivered from Japan... same supplier as Topre uses. Apparently they are stupid slow, probably sent surface freight.
I would guess there is probably some variance, but I am not an expert about plastics. I think it was more that it was the easiest solution to get the material from the same supplier due to color is a regular stock item.
Starting PBT dyesubs novelty key singles and GMK Dolch full set+add ons this month.The CMY/RGB mod extras coming after that? :S
Starting PBT dyesubs novelty key singles and GMK Dolch full set+add ons this month.
Starting PBT dyesubs novelty key singles and GMK Dolch full set+add ons this month.Yes i can't wait
Starting PBT dyesubs novelty key singles and GMK Dolch full set+add ons this month.
Were there any samples done for the pbt black on black that you have pictures of?
As I understand it, PLUM is still waiting for the particular PBT material (still for the sample run) to be delivered from Japan... same supplier as Topre uses. Apparently they are stupid slow, probably sent surface freight.
Aurebesh wasn't super popular, just make to minimum.
Wait, dolch as in this dolch? http://imgur.com/a/gewMG
Count me in, if so!
Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Difference would be the GeekHack key (which may or may not come with it, I doubt it will though :()
and the Cherry legends. Notice that the font is thicker. Also the winkey and the right click key are different.
Additionally, they would sound and feel slightly different due to a much greater thickness, and most likely have different texture too (can't confirm the texture part).
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Difference would be the GeekHack key (which may or may not come with it, I doubt it will though :()
and the Cherry legends. Notice that the font is thicker. Also the winkey and the right click key are different.
Additionally, they would sound and feel slightly different due to a much greater thickness, and most likely have different texture too (can't confirm the texture part).
I haven't gotten my hands on thick PBTs yet. I am eager to try them out as I hear great things and I can imagine I would love them considering I love my PBTs but wish they were thicker.
I also really like Cherry legends. I can see why people favor them. I am not too fond of the italicized legend from KBC Vortex's (I think) that I have.
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Difference would be the GeekHack key (which may or may not come with it, I doubt it will though :()
and the Cherry legends. Notice that the font is thicker. Also the winkey and the right click key are different.
Additionally, they would sound and feel slightly different due to a much greater thickness, and most likely have different texture too (can't confirm the texture part).
I haven't gotten my hands on thick PBTs yet. I am eager to try them out as I hear great things and I can imagine I would love them considering I love my PBTs but wish they were thicker.
I also really like Cherry legends. I can see why people favor them. I am not too fond of the italicized legend from KBC Vortex's (I think) that I have.
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Difference would be the GeekHack key (which may or may not come with it, I doubt it will though :()
and the Cherry legends. Notice that the font is thicker. Also the winkey and the right click key are different.
Additionally, they would sound and feel slightly different due to a much greater thickness, and most likely have different texture too (can't confirm the texture part).
I haven't gotten my hands on thick PBTs yet. I am eager to try them out as I hear great things and I can imagine I would love them considering I love my PBTs but wish they were thicker.
I also really like Cherry legends. I can see why people favor them. I am not too fond of the italicized legend from KBC Vortex's (I think) that I have.
Oh goodness, those were the 3rd ugliest legends I have ever seen. 1st would be the Deck keyboard legends, and 2nd would be the rest of the "gamer" style legends.
Their 2nd generation doubleshots have much nicer looking legends though.
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Difference would be the GeekHack key (which may or may not come with it, I doubt it will though :()
and the Cherry legends. Notice that the font is thicker. Also the winkey and the right click key are different.
Additionally, they would sound and feel slightly different due to a much greater thickness, and most likely have different texture too (can't confirm the texture part).
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Difference would be the GeekHack key (which may or may not come with it, I doubt it will though :()
and the Cherry legends. Notice that the font is thicker. Also the winkey and the right click key are different.
Additionally, they would sound and feel slightly different due to a much greater thickness, and most likely have different texture too (can't confirm the texture part).
I haven't gotten my hands on thick PBTs yet. I am eager to try them out as I hear great things and I can imagine I would love them considering I love my PBTs but wish they were thicker.
I also really like Cherry legends. I can see why people favor them. I am not too fond of the italicized legend from KBC Vortex's (I think) that I have.
Oh goodness, those were the 3rd ugliest legends I have ever seen. 1st would be the Deck keyboard legends, and 2nd would be the rest of the "gamer" style legends.
Their 2nd generation doubleshots have much nicer looking legends though.
The 2nd generation ones? I don't have a picture of them right now and I'm on phone so I don't want to pull it up but iirc, they're centered right? Cherry ones are not.
I've been informed the sample keys finally arrived at the dyesub place and will be placed in production queue for test run. I will update when I know more.
If anyone is selling their black on black (regular) set, PM me please. I'm looking to pick up that and the standard modifier kit.No one's getting a mod kit
Once samples approved... then I will find out the production timeline. Currently I am unsure. I'm sorry it will be taking much longer than I originally expected.
Are there any extras? I will buy a set of blanks.
I still have a set of blanks available for transfer, PM me if interested
I am in much need of the ergodox mod set. are you taking orders anytime in the future?
If you're interested in EDOX kit please order in the Dolch groupbuy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.0)... it would have been essentially the same kit anyway as it was not enough orders to put in production at the time this buy ended.
If you're interested in EDOX kit please order in the Dolch groupbuy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.0)... it would have been essentially the same kit anyway as it was not enough orders to put in production at the time this buy ended.
Speaking of the Dolch GB, any idea how these (PLUM) keys will compare to GMK in terms of thickness, etc? Of course these are PBT vs GMK's ABS.
I'm sorry it's taking longer than expected. There is more parts to this than in other keycap buys as we have separate parties to deal with for PBT material supplier which is located in Japan, PLUM in China to make that material into keys, then finally imsto elsewhere in China to do the dyesub work... all of which need to coordinate to make a product they have never dealt with producing before. I know people like things to move quickly, but I would much rather take longer to make sure a good product is delivered.
Currently it's still in the sampling stage. Yes I know STILL!!! The goal is to make sure we can get the caps as dark as is possible while still having the dyesub legends to be visible. It will take some effort in tuning that and to avoid big QA problems in production stage.
I'm sorry it's taking longer than expected. There is more parts to this than in other keycap buys as we have separate parties to deal with for PBT material supplier which is located in Japan, PLUM in China to make that material into keys, then finally imsto elsewhere in China to do the dyesub work... all of which need to coordinate to make a product they have never dealt with producing before. I know people like things to move quickly, but I would much rather take longer to make sure a good product is delivered.
Currently it's still in the sampling stage. Yes I know STILL!!! The goal is to make sure we can get the caps as dark as is possible while still having the dyesub legends to be visible. It will take some effort in tuning that and to avoid big QA problems in production stage.
I know people like things to move quickly, but I would much rather take longer to make sure a good product is delivered.
The goal is to make sure we can get the caps as dark as is possible while still having the dyesub legends to be visible.
I know people like things to move quickly, but I would much rather take longer to make sure a good product is delivered.The goal is to make sure we can get the caps as dark as is possible while still having the dyesub legends to be visible.
Couldn't agree more, this set has a shot at being something very unique that stands out, i would rather wait another 3 month and have it be epic than get it now and be mediocre. Thanks so much Ivan for putting in the work!
I try and update whenever I know anything. I hate it when buy organizers leave people hanging with no info.
I know people like things to move quickly, but I would much rather take longer to make sure a good product is delivered.
The goal is to make sure we can get the caps as dark as is possible while still having the dyesub legends to be visible. It will take some effort in tuning that and to avoid big QA problems in production stage.
Got a mini update. PLUM says the Japan PBT is 'too soft' and too prone to scratches and dents for their liking and they have deemed in unsuitable for their production process. They said they are going to get similar color from DuPont to try.
If anyone wants to take over my blank set order PM me.YGPM
Did anyone order a "pack standard" that they maybe dont want? Looking to complete a partial PBT set...That pack didn't hit MOQ, so no one gets it
Did anyone order a "pack standard" that they maybe dont want? Looking to complete a partial PBT set...That pack didn't hit MOQ, so no one gets it
It won't be that much long wait! From the sound of things currently it should be another week or so for them to make sure the new plastic material is good to go then hopefully we should finally be starting production phase relatively soon after. Worst case scenario based on current info these should be to you in September. Odds are it will be sooner than this, but I haven't gotten a locked in production slot yet.
Once again apologies for the much longer than anticipated time frame and thanks for your continued patience.
It won't be that much long wait! From the sound of things currently it should be another week or so for them to make sure the new plastic material is good to go then hopefully we should finally be starting production phase relatively soon after. Worst case scenario based on current info these should be to you in September. Odds are it will be sooner than this, but I haven't gotten a locked in production slot yet.
Once again apologies for the much longer than anticipated time frame and thanks for your continued patience.
It won't be that much long wait! From the sound of things currently it should be another week or so for them to make sure the new plastic material is good to go then hopefully we should finally be starting production phase relatively soon after. Worst case scenario based on current info these should be to you in September. Odds are it will be sooner than this, but I haven't gotten a locked in production slot yet.
Once again apologies for the much longer than anticipated time frame and thanks for your continued patience.
If you need address change you can just send me a PM with the new address. That's expected the longer a buy takes really.good to know, depending on how much longer this takes, i might need to change mine somewhat soon.
All sets will be same, all same production run with same custom color. Yes it is too late to add anything, order has been finalized for long time and paid.
No sorry, no changing at this time.
No sorry, no changing at this time.
No worries.
Someone care to take over my order of blank black?
Is it normal to have so much excitement for some pieces of plastic?
Is it normal to have so much excitement for some pieces of plastic?
Man, every email notification to this thread is making me jump.Show Image(http://collegetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ineedit.png)
Tab pinned 24/7. F5 several times a day. Sweaty palms every time.
Buyer jumped, so I still got a blank set to offer.
It won't be that much long wait! From the sound of things currently it should be another week or so for them to make sure the new plastic material is good to go then hopefully we should finally be starting production phase relatively soon after. Worst case scenario based on current info these should be to you in September. Odds are it will be sooner than this, but I haven't gotten a locked in production slot yet.
Once again apologies for the much longer than anticipated time frame and thanks for your continued patience.
It won't be that much long wait! From the sound of things currently it should be another week or so for them to make sure the new plastic material is good to go then hopefully we should finally be starting production phase relatively soon after. Worst case scenario based on current info these should be to you in September. Odds are it will be sooner than this, but I haven't gotten a locked in production slot yet.
Once again apologies for the much longer than anticipated time frame and thanks for your continued patience.
Any update from the manufacturer as to whether this new material was suitable or not?
Yes. It's good. Now just waiting for production slot.
Without sounding too forward here, is there any way we can start putting a bit of pressure on this?
I get that this takes time and patients is necessary in group buys but at the rate these delays are happening I'd expect the dolch set first..
I'm sorry it's taking way longer than expected. Yes PLUM is being slow, but they are also extremely diligent on making sure a good product is made. Most of the time has been issues with finding the right color and proper high quality material. Instead I'm sure some other places would have just churned out some junk and been all too ****ing bad about it.
Please read his post. PLUM has been putting in a lot of effort.I'm sorry it's taking way longer than expected. Yes PLUM is being slow, but they are also extremely diligent on making sure a good product is made. Most of the time has been issues with finding the right color and proper high quality material. Instead I'm sure some other places would have just churned out some junk and been all too ****ing bad about it.I did not mean put pressure on you Ivan, I hope my comment wasn't taken like that.
It just seems PLUM isn't seeing much priority in this GB and maybe there was something we could do as members of the GB.
Will there be another round of this set in the near future?
Will there be another round of this set in the near future?
There will likely be more buys of thick PBT cherry profile in the future, although I can't say for certain.
As soon as this is actually wrapped up as in shipped out to all of you I will start a new PBT groupbuy probably on white. I have no idea when I will rerun black/dark PBT sets again though. Considering giving POM which would be in black a run since they are really cheap $28 per set price. But, those will only be blank or possible with engraved.
... Considering giving POM which would be in black a run since they are really cheap $28 per set price. But, those will only be blank or possible with engraved.
As soon as this is actually wrapped up as in shipped out to all of you I will start a new PBT groupbuy probably on white. I have no idea when I will rerun black/dark PBT sets again though. Considering giving POM which would be in black a run since they are really cheap $28 per set price. But, those will only be blank or possible with engraved.
I more or less know the difference between ABS and PBT. How is POM compared to those?
I more or less know the difference between ABS and PBT. How is POM compared to those?
Similiar to PBT but instead of feeling dry it feels "wet" and typically feel very smooth.
Like PBT it takes a while to shine.
Should use POM Juice colors and make Pom Poms. Yeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaa :p
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If anyone is letting go a black on black US set please pm me! ;D
As soon as this is actually wrapped up as in shipped out to all of you I will start a new PBT groupbuy probably on white.I’m interested in white ones, Ivan, please inform me, when you get it going.
I generally announce in the IC thread when it goes onto a buy so you could keep an eye on this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54708.0
I was kind of hesitant to post this as it's such a superbad potato... but here is a sample of the dyesub on a chip, not a key. It will give a rough idea of what we will be getting but the plastic won't be streaky.
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I generally announce in the IC thread when it goes onto a buy so you could keep an eye on this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54708.0
I was kind of hesitant to post this as it's such a superbad potato... but here is a sample of the dyesub on a chip, not a key. It will give a rough idea of what we will be getting but the plastic won't be streaky.
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I generally announce in the IC thread when it goes onto a buy so you could keep an eye on this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54708.0
I was kind of hesitant to post this as it's such a superbad potato... but here is a sample of the dyesub on a chip, not a key. It will give a rough idea of what we will be getting but the plastic won't be streaky.
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Oh god I'm regretting getting the blanks only :( but I guess I'll be able to pick up a set in the classifieds hopefully if I want them bad enough.
I generally announce in the IC thread when it goes onto a buy so you could keep an eye on this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54708.0
I was kind of hesitant to post this as it's such a superbad potato... but here is a sample of the dyesub on a chip, not a key. It will give a rough idea of what we will be getting but the plastic won't be streaky.
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I generally announce in the IC thread when it goes onto a buy so you could keep an eye on this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54708.0
I was kind of hesitant to post this as it's such a superbad potato... but here is a sample of the dyesub on a chip, not a key. It will give a rough idea of what we will be getting but the plastic won't be streaky.
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Oh god I'm regretting getting the blanks only :( but I guess I'll be able to pick up a set in the classifieds hopefully if I want them bad enough.
If anyone wants to take my black on black, send PM. (total 94$)
My guess is international shipping?
My guess is international shipping?
I figured with these still in production we could just transfer the order from him to someone. If that's possible and the price were the original $75 I'd be interested. I'm not interested in him shipping them from somewhere else when Ivan lives 1 state away from me.
My guess is international shipping?
I figured with these still in production we could just transfer the order from him to someone. If that's possible and the price were the original $75 I'd be interested. I'm not interested in him shipping them from somewhere else when Ivan lives 1 state away from me.
My guess is international shipping?
I figured with these still in production we could just transfer the order from him to someone. If that's possible and the price were the original $75 I'd be interested. I'm not interested in him shipping them from somewhere else when Ivan lives 1 state away from me.
That 75$ is only for the caps. Groupbuy fees, paypal fees and shipping will be added when you get invoiced.
As soon as this is actually wrapped up as in shipped out to all of you I will start a new PBT groupbuy probably on white. I have no idea when I will rerun black/dark PBT sets again though. Considering giving POM which would be in black a run since they are really cheap $28 per set price. But, those will only be blank or possible with engraved.
As soon as this is actually wrapped up as in shipped out to all of you I will start a new PBT groupbuy probably on white. I have no idea when I will rerun black/dark PBT sets again though. Considering giving POM which would be in black a run since they are really cheap $28 per set price. But, those will only be blank or possible with engraved.
Classic beige with the correct color non-stepped caps lock :thumb:
My god I hope no win8 logos.
I don't like window logos in general. They all look horrible on a board imo.
My god I hope no win8 logos.Sorry, bud
The new generation is here.
Jk, but nostalgia and being used to the old logo aside, isn't the win 8 logo just a lot cleaner? At least imo.
Or does everyone hate it because the os sucks?
I must be the only person who doesn't care one way or the other :P A windows key is a windows key is a windows key. So long as the legend is well formed I'm easy.
I generally announce in the IC thread when it goes onto a buy so you could keep an eye on this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54708.0
I was kind of hesitant to post this as it's such a superbad potato... but here is a sample of the dyesub on a chip, not a key. It will give a rough idea of what we will be getting but the plastic won't be streaky.
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The windows 7(?) or older one just felt more balanced, even though the lines are cleaner on the new icon it feels imbalanced.
I'm not big on the win8 logo either, it looks distorted and imbalanced. It not enough to be a deal breaker for me though. For some reason I actually really like the 1.0 logo :))
Ugliest key ever! :) Not a fan of win8 logo on a keycap but the bog ugly diamonds look super cheesy to me. I felt the need to put that out there for some reason.I don't like window logos in general. They all look horrible on a board imo.
Some diamond logo caps would look good also.
Hahaha the longer this discussion goes on the clearer it becomes why Ivan chose blank super/win keys for the GMK dolch set ...
Hahaha the longer this discussion goes on the clearer it becomes why Ivan chose blank super/win keys for the GMK dolch set ...
Anyone got a black set and a pack standard set to let go?
The windows 7(?) or older one just felt more balanced, even though the lines are cleaner on the new icon it feels imbalanced.
100% Agreed. The new logo has this perspective/depth thing going on, which looks **** next to all the "flat" legends.
Edit:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fROI84y.gif)Don't mind Bill lol...
3.1 would look the best on a keyboard imo.
The windows 7(?) or older one just felt more balanced, even though the lines are cleaner on the new icon it feels imbalanced.
100% Agreed. The new logo has this perspective/depth thing going on, which looks **** next to all the "flat" legends.
Edit:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fROI84y.gif)Don't mind Bill lol...
3.1 would look the best on a keyboard imo.
Could we do a GMK group buy just for 1.25 windows logos? I'd be down for White on Black and Black on Beige for 1.0 and 8.
I know orders are closed, but is there anyway I can purchase a blank set?
If someone dosen't want to do it first I was thinking about offering Windows and menu key as mini pack in next time with standard colors (beige and black) or another. Probably a good idea since it would be easy way to complete sets with existing RGB, CMYK or EK mods that don't have Windows and menu key.
Will we ever see a new round soon? I'm anticipating to pull the trigger on IMSTO's grey/black PBT caps. Though a Black Otaku set would be lovely.
I paid for a PBT BLACK 104 set back in March, but still have yet to receive any kind of news or updates regarding the keycaps. I've tried to read through this thread, but I haven't been able to find an answer as to whether or not the keys have entered/finished production, shipped out, etc. If someone could help me out and give me an updated regarding the status of these, I would appreciate it! Thanks in advance!
Yes. It's good. Now just waiting for production slot.
PLUM has informed me finally with a production slot. Production will begin mid August. ETA to delivery mid September.
Im probably going to have to do the same.PLUM has informed me finally with a production slot. Production will begin mid August. ETA to delivery mid September.
I'm going to need to update my shipping info then. I'll PM you after I move.
PLUM has informed me finally with a production slot. Production will begin mid August. ETA to delivery mid September.
Expected delivery ETA to me.
No. When I get them will be all finish. Then I will just need up to couple weeks to get everything packed and shipped out to you.
Pretty sure it's center stem.
This may be a silly question, but does Cherry profile imply an offset-stemmed caps lock, or is this set's center-stemmed?
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Total 300 PBT sets ordered to go to production. Stepped caps lock is also included in each set as the 105th key.
Yeah it comes with both. Was thinking he was asking about full touch for some reason.
Full touch capslock -> center stem
stepped capslock -> off-center stem
Willing to sell my blank set, I paid 73.84$ including fees and international shipping (I bet Ivan can refund the difference in shipping if you are from the US)
Why did this take so fricken long? I thought we were going to initially be getting these in May?
I've been told they starting production finally... so yes hopefully not much longer than another month with transit times and all.
I've been told they starting production finally... so yes hopefully not much longer than another month with transit times and all.
I've been told they starting production finally... so yes hopefully not much longer than another month with transit times and all.
I believe so... as far as I know Plum 6.25 spacebar is like this:Show Image(http://42.120.41.196/data/attachment/forum/201201/20/004545jpbw80vggbnfyc2t.jpg)
Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Don't really want to pay that much or spend the time hunting that down. Besides, that would be lighter than this keycap set. Titanium would be more of a lighter grey, this set is a lot closer to black than grey.Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Titanium?
Don't really want to pay that much or spend the time hunting that down. Besides, that would be lighter than this keycap set. Titanium would be more of a lighter grey, this set is a lot closer to black than grey.Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Titanium?
I have and I can't figure out which color to go with, I am thinking GX in the bottom right might work for me.Don't really want to pay that much or spend the time hunting that down. Besides, that would be lighter than this keycap set. Titanium would be more of a lighter grey, this set is a lot closer to black than grey.Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Titanium?
Hit up the ol' Signature Plastics then, you'll have a hell of a time finding black 7x on it's own otherwise.
I believe so... as far as I know Plum 6.25 spacebar is like this:Show Image(http://42.120.41.196/data/attachment/forum/201201/20/004545jpbw80vggbnfyc2t.jpg)
I have and I can't figure out which color to go with, I am thinking GX in the bottom right might work for me.Don't really want to pay that much or spend the time hunting that down. Besides, that would be lighter than this keycap set. Titanium would be more of a lighter grey, this set is a lot closer to black than grey.Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Titanium?
Hit up the ol' Signature Plastics then, you'll have a hell of a time finding black 7x on it's own otherwise.Show Image(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/absgray.jpg)
I have and I can't figure out which color to go with, I am thinking GX in the bottom right might work for me.Don't really want to pay that much or spend the time hunting that down. Besides, that would be lighter than this keycap set. Titanium would be more of a lighter grey, this set is a lot closer to black than grey.Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Titanium?
Hit up the ol' Signature Plastics then, you'll have a hell of a time finding black 7x on it's own otherwise.Show Image(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/absgray.jpg)
Hi,
If anyone doesn't want his CHERRY BLACK on BLACK dyesub, I want one , PM or mail me.
Tnx
I have and I can't figure out which color to go with, I am thinking GX in the bottom right might work for me.Don't really want to pay that much or spend the time hunting that down. Besides, that would be lighter than this keycap set. Titanium would be more of a lighter grey, this set is a lot closer to black than grey.Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Titanium?
Hit up the ol' Signature Plastics then, you'll have a hell of a time finding black 7x on it's own otherwise.Show Image(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/absgray.jpg)
So I'm assuming the keys won't be arriving till sometime in October? :(
Anyone want to trade their Cherry or Cyrillic order for my Penumbra set with white alphas and tsangan? Unused.
Is it too late to get in on a set of blank blacks?
Is it too late to get in on a set of blank blacks?i would be willing to transfer mine if you want, i will pm the details! :)
Is it too late to get in on a set of blank blacks?i would be willing to transfer mine if you want, i will pm the details! :)
sounds good my friendIs it too late to get in on a set of blank blacks?i would be willing to transfer mine if you want, i will pm the details! :)
You're a saint and a scholar. I sent ivan a pm to get his blessing. Once I have it I will absolutely buy out your order.
:D
Recently lost my job :(
Anyone willing to pick up my Blanks? I paid $64.48 after fees, etc.
no. they're still weeks away
Anyone with blanks and do not want their set please pm me!
Yes these are still some ways off. Sadly I haven't been able to get any more specific info than they are in production, and done 'soon'.
As long as PLUM takes to get anything done I'm not so sure about using them again.
Are there no other manufacturers who do POM?
As long as PLUM takes to get anything done I'm not so sure about using them again.I wonder if Leopold might be an option going forward, those PBT caps available for purchase on ebay are great quality.
As long as PLUM takes to get anything done I'm not so sure about using them again.I wonder if Leopold might be an option going forward, those PBT caps available for purchase on ebay are great quality.
I would like to find out who actually makes the caps for Leopold, but haven't had any success. Might need a Korean to try Leopold KR directly.
I would like to find out who actually makes the caps for Leopold, but haven't had any success. Might need a Korean to try Leopold KR directly.
Hope you can make it happen! Those keys in red would be awesome. And ya the old Leopold keys are terrible in comparison haha, surprised at how they were somewhat praised for their quality at one point.
Have they given any estimate for a completion date or is it just "it's done when it's done"?
Have they given any estimate for a completion date or is it just "it's done when it's done"?
Yes these are still some ways off. Sadly I haven't been able to get any more specific info than they are in production, and done 'soon'.
I'm also looking forward to some nice high quality POM caps in Cherry profile... Please? I don't mind waiting for them.
The new Leopold sets... I really can't tell the difference if there is any between my Cherry keys. They are definitely not taller than Cherry and have sharp corners and etc. Not the older ones, I wouldn't give a **** about those.
If anyone want to take over my black on black order, Let me know, 1 set ~95usd (if ivan can still make the switch.)
to be fair I'm pretty sure I remember Ivan saying that production would take 5-6 weeks after it begins. back in feb or so. Its been four-ish weeks at this point?
I said it months ago, I wouldn't be surprised if I open my christmas presents first.
If anyone want to take over my black on black order, Let me know, 1 set ~95usd (if ivan can still make the switch.)
I said it months ago, I wouldn't be surprised if I open my christmas presents first.
I seriously don't understand your unrelenting negativity and petulance. Group buys take time, plenty of them have taken way longer than this and even more will take longer in the future. You need to find a new hobby if you can't learn to be a little more patient. You should just be thankful that Ivan was willing to go through the enormous effort required to put this together.
I said it months ago, I wouldn't be surprised if I open my christmas presents first.
I seriously don't understand your unrelenting negativity and petulance. Group buys take time, plenty of them have taken way longer than this and even more will take longer in the future. You need to find a new hobby if you can't learn to be a little more patient. You should just be thankful that Ivan was willing to go through the enormous effort required to put this together.
^ This times eleventy million.
This is a CUSTOM order for a product you will likely never see produced again. Ivan is busting his ass for not only handling and shuffling around hundreds of orders but will also have to deal with packaging everything up. Show some ****ing patience and gratitude!
If anyone want to take over my black on black order, Let me know, 1 set ~95usd (if ivan can still make the switch.)
I said it months ago, I wouldn't be surprised if I open my christmas presents first.
I seriously don't understand your unrelenting negativity and petulance. Group buys take time, plenty of them have taken way longer than this and even more will take longer in the future. You need to find a new hobby if you can't learn to be a little more patient. You should just be thankful that Ivan was willing to go through the enormous effort required to put this together.
^ This times eleventy million.
This is a CUSTOM order for a product you will likely never see produced again. Ivan is busting his ass for not only handling and shuffling around hundreds of orders but will also have to deal with packaging everything up. Show some ****ing patience and gratitude!
LOL Ivan hasn't taken a new order in months, the only "shuffling" happening here is customer to customer and Ivan changes the name on his Google Doc.. SOO MUCH WORK.. Fix your glass feelings, I made a generic statement about a product promised to buyers and I'll say it, it's not a coincidence that amount of people dropping out.
There is pictures of some Plum produced stuff through the thread if you want to roll back through it.
Are these still for sale? I've been looking for blank black PBT key caps forever!
Are these still for sale? I've been looking for blank black PBT key caps forever!
Are these still for sale? I've been looking for blank black PBT key caps forever!
If Ivan's down with it, I'd be happy to transfer an order to you.
This GB must be frustrating for Ivan. Keep a positive attitude and soon this will be over! :D
This GB must be frustrating for Ivan. Keep a positive attitude and soon this will be over! :D
Judging by the length of time most people have been waiting, I'd venture that Ivan isn't the only one frustrated.
I don't mind personally, since I literally got in on the GB a few weeks ago, but reading through this thread start to finish, I could definitely see being frustrated if I'd been waiting from the beginning. As far back as April people were being told the caps would be "entering production shortly! Just a few more weeks!"
And it's not like it's Ivan's fault. He's just repeating the information given to him and assuming that it was accurate and true information.
Are these still for sale? I've been looking for blank black PBT key caps forever!
If Ivan's down with it, I'd be happy to transfer an order to you.
Are these still for sale? I've been looking for blank black PBT key caps forever!
If Ivan's down with it, I'd be happy to transfer an order to you.
I'm new here and I've heard some bad things about group buys on this forum. Especially from reddit, but I don't really know what's true or not. What exactly are group buys and why is this one taking so long?
First of all a group buy is a bunch of fellow enthusiasts pooling their resources to purchase things they otherwise wouldn't be able to get and/or get for a decent price. In this case a keyset which didn't exist.
Ivan was very clear and has been that this would all be a learning process for this set. I believe a bulk of the time after orders ended was spent finding a proper plastic to be used to actually make these so they could be properly dye-subed.
Honestly the biggest problem with group buys is people who don't know what they are getting into.
Honestly the biggest problem with group buys is people who don't know what they are getting into.This.
Won't it be nice when 3d printing gets to a point that it can replace the need for group buys?Instant gratification FTW!
Can't wait.
I've been in this for a while and am actually enjoying it. The wait is part of the experience, especially for a set like this.
Honestly the biggest problem with group buys is people who don't know what they are getting into.Before that it was not uncommon for them to take around a year to materialize. Round 4 (http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/doubleshot-replacements-round-4-t1376.html) for example took nearly 2 years because of the complexity. That is why Ivan has drastically decreased the number of options.
The 'Round' part refers to a specific groupbuy. In this case one organized by 7Bit which is similar to one he organized before. He is currently doing a Round 5 (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Round_5) which is supposed to ship by the end of October. :)Honestly the biggest problem with group buys is people who don't know what they are getting into.Before that it was not uncommon for them to take around a year to materialize. Round 4 (http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/doubleshot-replacements-round-4-t1376.html) for example took nearly 2 years because of the complexity. That is why Ivan has drastically decreased the number of options.
Sorry for being so new, but why are they called rounds? And what are people referencing in that thread when they are referring to prior rounds. Just wondering. Seems to be important if you can simply refer to it as Round 4 and people know what it is.
The 'Round' part refers to a specific groupbuy. In this case one organized by 7Bit which is similar to one he organized before. He is currently doing a Round 5 (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Round_5) which is supposed to ship by the end of October. :)Honestly the biggest problem with group buys is people who don't know what they are getting into.Before that it was not uncommon for them to take around a year to materialize. Round 4 (http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/doubleshot-replacements-round-4-t1376.html) for example took nearly 2 years because of the complexity. That is why Ivan has drastically decreased the number of options.
Sorry for being so new, but why are they called rounds? And what are people referencing in that thread when they are referring to prior rounds. Just wondering. Seems to be important if you can simply refer to it as Round 4 and people know what it is.
If something turns out to be very popular, a lot of people usually come in late because they didn't know a GB was happening. If enough people are interested the GB organizer might decide to do another round.
Just like Ivan had a PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328).
There is nothing more to it. It's mostly shorthand.
In most cases people refer to the set itself. Like CMYK and Purple GMK mods (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017), CMYW (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54039), GMK RGBY (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54442) or Skull Squadron DSA (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54334.0). Not to be confused with the new round of Skull Squadron in DCS-profile. ;)
Other example: Lightsaver V2 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.0;topicseen) (which has some slightimprovementschanges over the V1)
Amateurs. I'm still waiting for an alu case I paid for last NOVEMBER.Which one would that be?
Amateurs. I'm still waiting for an alu case I paid for last NOVEMBER.Which one would that be?
I've been in this for a while and am actually enjoying it. The wait is part of the experience, especially for a set like this.
don't lie to yourself.
waiting sucks, period. it's part of gb's, but it still sucks.
I've been in this for a while and am actually enjoying it. The wait is part of the experience, especially for a set like this.
don't lie to yourself.
waiting sucks, period. it's part of gb's, but it still sucks.
it's only sucks if you remember
Amateurs. I'm still waiting for an alu case I paid for last NOVEMBER.Which one would that be?
Alixinhzai's GB - it's supposed to be in the post but I'm starting to think it's been misplaced or delivered to the wrong address because I've been waiting like a month for it.
I've been told again 'soon' but I'm not sure what 'soon' means at PLUM. :/
I've been told again 'soon' but I'm not sure what 'soon' means at PLUM. :/
Soon what though? Soon, they'll have pics, soon they'll have a first set, soon they'll be shipped? Soon is very very vague lol
ABS can look exactly like PBT, I've never seen plum and signed on when it was still 'IMSTO THICK PBT' we have pretty much no idea what these caps are going to feel like only a fuzzy example of what they will resemble in appearance.
Indeed, once the keys are made we have to wait for them to get shipped overseas(!) to Ivan... then wait for Ivan to pack 'em up... then more wait for them to actually arrive at my house. I think we will be lucky if we get them before Christmas at this point.
ABS can look exactly like PBT, I've never seen plum and signed on when it was still 'IMSTO THICK PBT' we have pretty much no idea what these caps are going to feel like only a fuzzy example of what they will resemble in appearance.
Imsto was and still is who will be doing the dye-sublimation. So technically, these are just as much "Imsto" keys as the KBC produced sets would have been.Indeed, once the keys are made we have to wait for them to get shipped overseas(!) to Ivan... then wait for Ivan to pack 'em up... then more wait for them to actually arrive at my house. I think we will be lucky if we get them before Christmas at this point.
A minor clarification; after all the key sets have been manufactured they get shipped to Imsto for dye-sublimation, once that is complete everything (blanks and dye-subs) gets shipped to Ivan who will then package up everyones orders and send them out.
Ivan, how would you characterize this GB so far - I know it's the first time using Plum, would you consider using them again given the production time and communication from them?
Ivan, how would you characterize this GB so far - I know it's the first time using Plum, would you consider using them again given the production time and communication from them?
Ivan said on a previous page that he most likely will never use PLUM again for his GBs.
love the feeling of the material, but don't want to feel the legends.
love the feeling of the material, but don't want to feel the legends.
SOOOO much this.
especially on the f and j keys, whrre the legend is more noticable than the dash. terribad idea.
Hard to say if I will work with Plum again. They are the only ones besides Cherry themselves that do Cherry profile POM.
Hard to say if I will work with Plum again. They are the only ones besides Cherry themselves that do Cherry profile POM.
Ivan,
I'm sure you have an upset stomach over this so you probably want this to be done ASAP. That being said, PLUM has done POM keycaps before - this shouldn't be a mystery to them; and since a potential POM GB may likely only offer blanks - maybe side printed as a 2nd option - it should be much more simple than this one.
Like I said before - I've never run a successful GB before - but if you can do the basic things I will take on full responsibility for packing and shipping orders so it's off your plate. If anything, you could use the POM GB as leverage to get more accurate PBT feedback "We are ready to start ordering POM keycaps but can't begin until the PBT's are done..."
Obviously in the largest size font/brightest color possible participants to a POM GB will be warned it may take up to a year for a product to be delivered - one that will likely never be produced again. Even if you are not interested in POM - you could buy in and resell these sets on ebay for a profit.
POM is starting to disappear in Asia - Keycool doesn't really use it anymore, the Cherry G80-18XX boards are being phased out, Neo Zelia are switching over to PBT. I'm afraid it's only a matter of time before it becomes extinct.
I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Has there been proof we're even on an account? All I've seen Ivan receive is "Soon" for literally everything.
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Has there been proof we're even on an account? All I've seen Ivan receive is "Soon" for literally everything.
I'm not sure what you are implying but of all the group buy organizers I would say Ivan is easily one of the most trusted here. He will get you guys the caps, he is just as aggravated at the slow responses as anyone. If he had more to share he would.
I'm not sure what you are implying but of all the group buy organizers I would say Ivan is easily one of the most trusted here. He will get you guys the caps, he is just as aggravated at the slow responses as anyone. If he had more to share he would.
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Has there been proof we're even on an account? All I've seen Ivan receive is "Soon" for literally everything.
I'm not sure what you are implying but of all the group buy organizers I would say Ivan is easily one of the most trusted here. He will get you guys the caps, he is just as aggravated at the slow responses as anyone. If he had more to share he would.
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Has there been proof we're even on an account? All I've seen Ivan receive is "Soon" for literally everything.
I'm not sure what you are implying but of all the group buy organizers I would say Ivan is easily one of the most trusted here. He will get you guys the caps, he is just as aggravated at the slow responses as anyone. If he had more to share he would.
I'm not implying anything. Why is it this website is always in search of an underlining assumption? It's a pretty simple statement, do we even have an account, no one seems to know just regurgitating the same "IVAN IS LIKE THE BEST" statements. I get it Ivan is great, I'm not questioning him.
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Has there been proof we're even on an account? All I've seen Ivan receive is "Soon" for literally everything.
I'm not sure what you are implying but of all the group buy organizers I would say Ivan is easily one of the most trusted here. He will get you guys the caps, he is just as aggravated at the slow responses as anyone. If he had more to share he would.
I'm not implying anything. Why is it this website is always in search of an underlining assumption? It's a pretty simple statement, do we even have an account, no one seems to know just regurgitating the same "IVAN IS LIKE THE BEST" statements. I get it Ivan is great, I'm not questioning him.
seems to me you're just being a diva. just sit tight and wait like the rest of usYep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Has there been proof we're even on an account? All I've seen Ivan receive is "Soon" for literally everything.
I'm not sure what you are implying but of all the group buy organizers I would say Ivan is easily one of the most trusted here. He will get you guys the caps, he is just as aggravated at the slow responses as anyone. If he had more to share he would.
I'm not implying anything. Why is it this website is always in search of an underlining assumption? It's a pretty simple statement, do we even have an account, no one seems to know just regurgitating the same "IVAN IS LIKE THE BEST" statements. I get it Ivan is great, I'm not questioning him.
Hi,
New here. Just wondering if this GB still on going? Those Ivan still accepts order?
Thanks!
Orders are closed. It's in production. To join, you would have to take over a pre-existing order.
Since I'm no familiar with PLUM, what is the current situation with our order?Show Image(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/36185330.jpg)
yeah... I still have no idea the ETA for real.
Since I'm no familiar with PLUM, what is the current situation with our order?
Is it radio silence, or refusal to give us an estimated completion time?
Anyone know if the stepped caps lock key is centered stem?
Yeah it comes with both. Was thinking he was asking about full touch for some reason.
Full touch capslock -> center stem
stepped capslock -> off-center stem
^ awesome. enjoy and leave us patient gbuyers at peace ;D
^ awesome. enjoy and leave us patient gbuyers at peace ;D
[...] I planned keyboards around this group buy and have had to adapt, I know I've ended up spending more money as a result of delays.Looking at your avatar I'm guessing you were planning an all-black board?
Think I might tapout again, the new GTX 970 are very tempting. If you have interest in a blank black set PM ME.
PS: Don't be upset if I randomly change my mind and decide to keep them.
lol for real. I just bought two infinity boards, each with a set of blank black pbts.
but this set is going on my main board. can't wait.
Really thought we would have heard something out of these wankers by now, what a terrible way to run a business.
A record setting group buy
A record setting group buy
Don't you remember those pictures posted months ago in like 92p, those were the pictures, I think they were caps. Thinking about it now though it could have just been a black pixel. It's officially fishy, end of this month and we're bordering on a scamish feel.
Again, no hate to Ivan because I'm well aware he's the awesome of the awesome and I'm sure he's calling them daily.
Don't you remember those pictures posted months ago in like 92p, those were the pictures, I think they were caps. Thinking about it now though it could have just been a black pixel. It's officially fishy, end of this month and we're bordering on a scamish feel.If you're so dissatisfied with how things are going, perhaps you should find someone to take over your order. I'm sure you could find a willing participant.
Again, no hate to Ivan because I'm well aware he's the awesome of the awesome and I'm sure he's calling them daily.
+111111111Don't you remember those pictures posted months ago in like 92p, those were the pictures, I think they were caps. Thinking about it now though it could have just been a black pixel. It's officially fishy, end of this month and we're bordering on a scamish feel.
Again, no hate to Ivan because I'm well aware he's the awesome of the awesome and I'm sure he's calling them daily.
qq and gtfo already, jesus
Don't you remember those pictures posted months ago in like 92p, those were the pictures, I think they were caps. Thinking about it now though it could have just been a black pixel. It's officially fishy, end of this month and we're bordering on a scamish feel.
Again, no hate to Ivan because I'm well aware he's the awesome of the awesome and I'm sure he's calling them daily.
qq and gtfo already, jesus
Sergeant, come on. Let's be mature here. You've been full of drama this entire group buy.
PLUM really screwed themselves as a POM group buy was to follow this one. Nope nope nope. :(
I used to just ask for updates then guys like Sh0rty and Pr0ximity decided they'd start stirring the pot a bit and antagonizing me because I want more information, well, I'll play along. I'm not the only dude looking for answers and I'm also not the only one speaking out, I am however the only one being ridiculed.
I used to just ask for updates then guys like Sh0rty and Pr0ximity decided they'd start stirring the pot a bit and antagonizing me because I want more information, well, I'll play along. I'm not the only dude looking for answers and I'm also not the only one speaking out, I am however the only one being ridiculed.
You're not being unjustly ridiculed, people are tired of your querulousness. Beyond that, I've seen at least one or two other bellyachers here that got called out on it just like you.
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
um...
i will take it and pay the extra shipping costs. i wanted as dark as possible anyways.
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
Back to KBC for Round 4 I hope....
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
Same thing as since the beginning. We want it dark as can be while still light enough you can see legends dyesubbed. It's a thin line and pretty demanding really. It's a fairly demanding request, and they are making an effort.
Fair anough mate, I'm still along for the ride! Not like we have any other options for blank/cherry pbt caps.
Same thing as since the beginning. We want it dark as can be while still light enough you can see legends dyesubbed. It's a thin line and pretty demanding really. It's a fairly demanding request, and they are making an effort.
Fair anough mate, I'm still along for the ride! Not like we have any other options for blank/cherry pbt caps.
Same thing as since the beginning. We want it dark as can be while still light enough you can see legends dyesubbed. It's a thin line and pretty demanding really. It's a fairly demanding request, and they are making an effort.
Fair anough mate, I'm still along for the ride! Not like we have any other options for blank/cherry pbt caps.
What about leopold and vortex? They've both run blank black PBT in cherry profile lately.
for clarification: I have three sets in this buy, just letting other people know there are options.
What about leopold and vortex? They've both run blank black PBT in cherry profile lately.
for clarification: I have three sets in this buy, just letting other people know there are options.
What about leopold and vortex? They've both run blank black PBT in cherry profile lately.
for clarification: I have three sets in this buy, just letting other people know there are options.
The black Leopold sets don't come in blank, only side-print. I would have bought a set in a nanosecond if they came in blank black.
The Vortex sets seem to be of mediocre quality. I've seen at least a couple people complaining about seeing the cruciform molding being visible on the top of the key as well as unsightly sprue marks.
Help us, Ivan, you're our only hope! :))
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
um...
i will take it and pay the extra shipping costs. i wanted as dark as possible anyways.
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
Man that sucks. If it helps I'm happy to go ahead still, I was always under the impression that the sublimation would be very 'under the radar'.
Yeah I would probably buy the extra dark ones :p
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Hello guys, this isn't my first gb but it is my most anticipated one
just wondering what is the exact situation we are in? Since the caps came out too dark, are they going to do another production run? I am patiently waiting for my grail of caps but the wait would be easier knowing how much longer. I know there is no exact date but should we expect these before the new year?
I suppose there's no chance at buying the 'failures' at a reduced cost ? Plenty of folks here would be satisfied and if there was a discount for their learning experience, you could extend the buy to new, different folks.
I'd be surprised if they'd made any sets. It sounds more like they've done a few sample caps and they're no good...
Bought a set and I no longer needed these set of blank PBTs, if anyone interested in taking over this 1 blank set, drop me a PM.
Bought a set and I no longer needed these set of blank PBTs, if anyone interested in taking over this 1 blank set, drop me a PM.
I'd be interested. Can I see a screenshot of the invoice?
I'd be surprised if they'd made any sets. It sounds more like they've done a few sample caps and they're no good...
I just don't get how the prototype could be 'fine' then they go to produce that same thing again and all of a sudden it's 'too dark', what happened there?
Any pictures of the issue?
Can I still join or the orders already closed?
Pictures of the underside please :D
Haha, so true.Pictures of the underside please :D
(nothing is ever good enough...lol)
Another round of sample have been delivered to imsto.
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Think they will be OK but waiting to get some dyesub tested out to see how it ends up.
Another round of sample have been delivered to imsto.
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Think they will be OK but waiting to get some dyesub tested out to see how it ends up.
Another round of sample have been delivered to imsto.
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Think they will be OK but waiting to get some dyesub tested out to see how it ends up.
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Very nice! looks nice and dark... maybe too dark for dyesub :-X
I like this one better than Ron Paul.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/YtKWRKk.gif)
Sorry to sound like idiot, but this GB is closed right? Is the only way to get this via buying someone's spot? Or rather buy their set?Correct
Would these caps fit on a k70? I know the bottom row on the k70 has some non standard spacing and I have no idea how to figure out if it would fit. (If it does fit, I'd be interested in buying a set of blanks off of someone)
Another round of sample have been delivered to imsto.
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Think they will be OK but waiting to get some dyesub tested out to see how it ends up.
I have a black blank set that I'd like to transfer, if someone wants to reimburse me.
PBT BLACK 104 1 $55.00 $55.00*
GB fee 1 $3.00 $3.00*
Subtotal $58.00
Shipping/handling $13.00*
ppf(paypal fee) (4%) $2.84
Total $73.84 USD
I bought two sets, but I'm trying to diversify.
I will update this post when it's taken.
Is there any rough estimate on ship dates?
I have faith in Ivan and this GB, but I've long since stopped expecting to get these on any kind of reasonable time table. Best to just be pleasantly surprised when they do ship rather than perpetually disappointed when they don't.
Really looking forward to thess, I've had a cap less board sitting unused all year.
Is there any rough estimate on ship dates?
Yes thanks for the summary. I don't receive nothing, only get photo. PLUM send actual key to imsto, who is in charge of dyesublimation part anyway.
If they can't get the right color, I may consider going to plan B... which is just take the plain blanks and refunding the dyesub money. There is only so much, and perhaps getting to point where something generally satisfactory is better than continuing to wait indefinitely.
Yes thanks for the summary. I don't receive nothing, only get photo. PLUM send actual key to imsto, who is in charge of dyesublimation part anyway.
If they can't get the right color, I may consider going to plan B... which is just take the plain blanks and refunding the dyesub money. There is only so much, and perhaps getting to point where something generally satisfactory is better than continuing to wait indefinitely.
If this ends up being what happens, can we go back to the darker samples they had?
Yes thanks for the summary. I don't receive nothing, only get photo. PLUM send actual key to imsto, who is in charge of dyesublimation part anyway.
If they can't get the right color, I may consider going to plan B... which is just take the plain blanks and refunding the dyesub money. There is only so much, and perhaps getting to point where something generally satisfactory is better than continuing to wait indefinitely.
If this ends up being what happens, can we go back to the darker samples they had?
If this ends up being what happens, can we go back to the darker samples they had?
If I remember correctly the really dark ones were too soft for normal production so I don't think we will be getting those. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
The softness issues were unrelated to the color issues I believe.
If this ends up being what happens, can we go back to the darker samples they had?
If I remember correctly the really dark ones were too soft for normal production so I don't think we will be getting those. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
I should know for sure what will happen on next week sometime when the dyesub samples can be returned for evaluation.
The delay is nothing I'm excited about, but I'd rather wait some more, because I'm absolutely not interested in blanks. No dye sub would be a real bummer for me.
One options is to ship the blanks people who ordered blanks and give people who ordered printed keys refunds. This is expensive in the short term because the order from plum is for {X} sets, whereas only {Y} of those are for people who want blanks. So even though people only want {Y} keysets, PLUM has already been paid to produce {X} sets. Ivan would have to issue refunds to people who don't want to take blank keys instead of printed keys, and would then be stuck with dozens of blank black keycap sets that he doesn't want. I'm sure that they would eventually get sold off, but that's just a huge headache to deal with, and a hit to his pocket book at Christmas time.
One options is to ship the blanks people who ordered blanks and give people who ordered printed keys refunds. This is expensive in the short term because the order from plum is for {X} sets, whereas only {Y} of those are for people who want blanks. So even though people only want {Y} keysets, PLUM has already been paid to produce {X} sets. Ivan would have to issue refunds to people who don't want to take blank keys instead of printed keys, and would then be stuck with dozens of blank black keycap sets that he doesn't want. I'm sure that they would eventually get sold off, but that's just a huge headache to deal with, and a hit to his pocket book at Christmas time.
I'm still looking to sell my set of blanks.
I think a lot of the printed people feel the darker color is acceptable, as the vocal minority of us seems to have wanted it darker than target anyway.idk about that... i ordered hoping it would look like the realforce black/black that's just me tho
I'm still looking to sell my set of blanks.
What's your final asking price?
People started to drop out of this :( I really hoped to get these this year.
I should know for sure what will happen on next week sometime when the dyesub samples can be returned for evaluation.
There hasn't been that many order transfers.
Everything should be good to go I'm told. Tentative delivery date mid February.
There hasn't been that many order transfers.:thumb:
Everything should be good to go I'm told. Tentative delivery date mid February.
There hasn't been that many order transfers.
Everything should be good to go I'm told. Tentative delivery date mid February.
There hasn't been that many order transfers.
Everything should be good to go I'm told. Tentative delivery date mid February.
Wow, thank you for all the work you put in.
There hasn't been that many order transfers.
Everything should be good to go I'm told. Tentative delivery date mid February.
Let me know if anyone is thinking about dropping out on a black on black set and a standard adapter pack, As I stupidly missed this GB and I will take the order off your hands :) Thanks
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That looks amazing!! Thank you so much, Ivan, for making this possible! Those are going to look incredible on something like a Filco ninja
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Extra keys in each set... yes. Will I tell what those extras will be... no.
Extra sets... no. Extra keys in each set... yes. Will I tell what those extras will be... no.
I want to put these on a black TKL since they won't fit on my FC700R. Any suggestions? I don't think these will fit keyboards with costar stabilizers. So, I need a well built black keyboard with cherry stabilizers.
I want to put these on a black TKL since they won't fit on my FC700R. Any suggestions? I don't think these will fit keyboards with costar stabilizers. So, I need a well built black keyboard with cherry stabilizers.
why would they not work with costar?
It will work on Leopold, it have the proper mounts on the spacebar.Show Image(http://42.120.41.196/data/attachment/forum/201201/20/004545jpbw80vggbnfyc2t.jpg)
Please let me know if anyone's thinking about dropping out on a black on black set, I'd be interested to take them! Thanks!
(Attachment Link)They are coming with a winkeyless kit? :O
We are getting closer. Now just need about a month for the dyesublimation to be completed and transit time.
HOT DAMN!Same here. I should have gotten a second set of blanks...
the extra keys are a WKL set? :O
i did not order enough sets -_-
HOT DAMN!Same here. I should have gotten a second set of blanks...
the extra keys are a WKL set? :O
i did not order enough sets -_-
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We are getting closer. Now just need about a month for the dyesublimation to be completed and transit time.
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We are getting closer. Now just need about a month for the dyesublimation to be completed and transit time.
Looking great!
This may be a silly question, but is it possible to ship out the blanks now since they don't need to be dyesubbed?
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We are getting closer. Now just need about a month for the dyesublimation to be completed and transit time.
Ohhhhh man...this is exciting...
I sold my Quickfire TK because it had that odd bottom row with the size of the win key and space bar. Are you saying that with these extra keys, they would all fit on it?
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We are getting closer. Now just need about a month for the dyesublimation to be completed and transit time.
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Looking great!
This may be a silly question, but is it possible to ship out the blanks now since they don't need to be dyesubbed?
No, all sets will be shipped to me from China at same time.
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The way these look I almost wish they were made with glitter. I guess I should be satisfied they look like that anyway :)
Funny how we spent nearly a year trying to make quota and once it finally goes through everyone and their dog wants a set.
Funny how we spent nearly a year trying to make quota and once it finally goes through everyone and their dog wants a set.
This is how it usually goes. GMK Purple Mods and CMYK took ages to meet MOQ (didn't even really meet MOQ, in fact), and now everyone wants a set. It's normal.
Just curious how does this blank set compare to the Cherry profile, blank sets from Vortex, which is on mass drop right now
i wish I was into this keyboard hobby a year ago because I would of definitely got myself a set. >=\Funny how we spent nearly a year trying to make quota and once it finally goes through everyone and their dog wants a set.
This is how it usually goes. GMK Purple Mods and CMYK took ages to meet MOQ (didn't even really meet MOQ, in fact), and now everyone wants a set. It's normal.
Once people start to see the finished product and especially start seeing it on boards, they start to want it. I wouldn't have bought Hyperfuse but now that I've seen it, I want a set :)
Can't wait for this GB though, they gonna look sooo good.
Doesn't matter when you get into the hobby, you are always too late for the best stuff.i wish I was into this keyboard hobby a year ago because I would of definitely got myself a set. >=\Funny how we spent nearly a year trying to make quota and once it finally goes through everyone and their dog wants a set.
This is how it usually goes. GMK Purple Mods and CMYK took ages to meet MOQ (didn't even really meet MOQ, in fact), and now everyone wants a set. It's normal.
Once people start to see the finished product and especially start seeing it on boards, they start to want it. I wouldn't have bought Hyperfuse but now that I've seen it, I want a set :)
Can't wait for this GB though, they gonna look sooo good.
Doesn't matter when you get into the hobby, you are always too late for the best stuff.i wish I was into this keyboard hobby a year ago because I would of definitely got myself a set. >=\Funny how we spent nearly a year trying to make quota and once it finally goes through everyone and their dog wants a set.
This is how it usually goes. GMK Purple Mods and CMYK took ages to meet MOQ (didn't even really meet MOQ, in fact), and now everyone wants a set. It's normal.
Once people start to see the finished product and especially start seeing it on boards, they start to want it. I wouldn't have bought Hyperfuse but now that I've seen it, I want a set :)
Can't wait for this GB though, they gonna look sooo good.
For example I was too late for affordable Clacks.
So is anyone interested in purchasing my set?Which set is it?
hi im looking to sell my black on black set hit me up :cool:
Looking to take over a black-on-black set, and have someone else take over my blank set!
Would anyone with an adapter pack be interesting in selling their 1.75x Shift? I would have bought a whole adapter pack for one but I got in on the GB late.
Sets were just delivered to the dyesubbing place, so as soon as they have finished that step they should be on the way to me.
Sets were just delivered to the dyesubbing place, so as soon as they have finished that step they should be on the way to me.Great!
What about the people with blank sets? Do you get those shipped to you right now?
I want to sell my complete order (2 blanks, 1 ANSI US, 1 Russian). PM if you are interested.Changed my mind. Please take over my order. Single sets are also available and welcome.
No single sets for sale, offer only valid if you buy out the whole order.
I want to sell my complete order (2 blanks, 1 ANSI US, 1 Russian). PM if you are interested.Changed my mind. Please take over my order. Single sets are also available and welcome.
No single sets for sale, offer only valid if you buy out the whole order.
I want to sell my complete order (2 blanks, 1 ANSI US, 1 Russian). PM if you are interested.Changed my mind. Please take over my order. Single sets are also available and welcome.
No single sets for sale, offer only valid if you buy out the whole order.
PM'd for the black on black ANSI USI want to sell my complete order (2 blanks, 1 ANSI US, 1 Russian). PM if you are interested.Changed my mind. Please take over my order. Single sets are also available and welcome.
No single sets for sale, offer only valid if you buy out the whole order.
Sets were just delivered to the dyesubbing place, so as soon as they have finished that step they should be on the way to me.
Lots of people wanting in on this, naturally since it's a 100% go ahead now.
Just so the people selling are aware, these are an extremely hot ticket item and selling them for less than $100 a set at this point would be silly, flat transfers are just throwing away money on the seller's end.
making money off of something before it's even in your handsLots of people wanting in on this, naturally since it's a 100% go ahead now.
Just so the people selling are aware, these are an extremely hot ticket item and selling them for less than $100 a set at this point would be silly, flat transfers are just throwing away money on the seller's end.
Or, if you don't care about making a buck and just want to transfer the set, feel free to do so.
Lots of people wanting in on this, naturally since it's a 100% go ahead now.
Just so the people selling are aware, these are an extremely hot ticket item and selling them for less than $100 a set at this point would be silly, flat transfers are just throwing away money on the seller's end.
Lots of people wanting in on this, naturally since it's a 100% go ahead now.
Just so the people selling are aware, these are an extremely hot ticket item and selling them for less than $100 a set at this point would be silly, flat transfers are just throwing away money on the seller's end.
Great attitude...
:rolleyes:
It's the selling at a markup that rubs people wrong. It's one where I'd love to see Ivan do what I've seen done elsewhere. Want to sell it? Fine, I'll refund you your money and sell it to someone who wants it instead of selling an unshipped product to someone else for a profit.
If you want to do something like that, go play the stock market.
Hate hate hate, what's with you guys?General consensus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0) within the community is that when selling/buying you ask for the original price. Minus 20-30% if it's used.
It is indeed flipping for profit which set everyone off.This.
If we all flipped for profit, you'd never be able to get what you want.
And the market value would be all the **** over the place depending on how many times a set has been moved.
However you are allowed to add a little bit to recuperate some of those expenses.
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Nathan-Fillion-Loss-For-Words-Reaction-Gif.gif)
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?Just because people flip one thing doesnt mean that makes flipping everything okay. I would prefer if people didnt flip their click clacks/brobots but that isnt going to stop any time soon. I havent ever bought a keycap outside of an offical sale and its going to stay that way as long as people sell them for crazy prices.
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?Show Image(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Nathan-Fillion-Loss-For-Words-Reaction-Gif.gif)
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
If you've seen discussion on the subject around here, you'd see very quickly that we do not support profiting from CC and BB sales.
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
If you've seen discussion on the subject around here, you'd see very quickly that we do not support profiting from CC and BB sales.
Than why is there a Clack Evaluation thread in the Classifieds? Isn't it to make sure members don't undervalue their Clacks? I don't see anyone there saying "It's 40$, that's how much CC sold it for and that's how much it is worth".
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
I would sincerely argue against that being the case, in fact my perception has been that many people around here (myself included) are vocally against flipping stuff for profit that the owner has done nothing to contribute any additional value to.
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
I would sincerely argue against that being the case, in fact my perception has been that many people around here (myself included) are vocally against flipping stuff for profit that the owner has done nothing to contribute any additional value to.
I agree with what you said guys considering the BB/CC case. But isn't having something that becomes precious because it gains value through time the purpose of collecting stuff? Most of the time collectors don't add any value to the objects themselves but their inherent rarity make them expensive. Whether you want to sell them or not is then up to the owner.
Things don't get value only when the creator is dead.Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
I would sincerely argue against that being the case, in fact my perception has been that many people around here (myself included) are vocally against flipping stuff for profit that the owner has done nothing to contribute any additional value to.
I agree with what you said guys considering the BB/CC case. But isn't having something that becomes precious because it gains value through time the purpose of collecting stuff? Most of the time collectors don't add any value to the objects themselves but their inherent rarity make them expensive. Whether you want to sell them or not is then up to the owner.
alot of the time. things get value AFTER the creator has died.
this time, they're going up while the creators are still alive. kinda different.
Things don't get value only when the creator is dead.Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
I would sincerely argue against that being the case, in fact my perception has been that many people around here (myself included) are vocally against flipping stuff for profit that the owner has done nothing to contribute any additional value to.
I agree with what you said guys considering the BB/CC case. But isn't having something that becomes precious because it gains value through time the purpose of collecting stuff? Most of the time collectors don't add any value to the objects themselves but their inherent rarity make them expensive. Whether you want to sell them or not is then up to the owner.
alot of the time. things get value AFTER the creator has died.
this time, they're going up while the creators are still alive. kinda different.
Just see how much are price cars that have limited run production like 20 models worldwide even though the creator is not dead. Rarity make them expensive.
It is indeed flipping for profit which set everyone off.
If we all flipped for profit, you'd never be able to get what you want.
And the market value would be all the **** over the place depending on how many times a set has been moved.
I want to sell my complete order (2 blanks, 1 ANSI US, 1 Russian). PM if you are interested.Changed my mind. Please take over my order. Single sets are also available and welcome.
No single sets for sale, offer only valid if you buy out the whole order.
We're getting way OT here (this would be a great thread to make elsewhere, I think). All I'd say is that looking at the world purely through the lens of economics is a very shallow way of thinking.
We're getting way OT here (this would be a great thread to make elsewhere, I think). All I'd say is that looking at the world purely through the lens of economics is a very shallow way of thinking.
We're getting way OT here (this would be a great thread to make elsewhere, I think). All I'd say is that looking at the world purely through the lens of economics is a very shallow way of thinking.
+1.
We're getting way OT here (this would be a great thread to make elsewhere, I think). All I'd say is that looking at the world purely through the lens of economics is a very shallow way of thinking.
+1.
So should we discuss the wait time again or whether the caps are a really dark grey or actually black? Resale of this product is very much on topic and has been for at least 4 pages.
We're getting way OT here (this would be a great thread to make elsewhere, I think). All I'd say is that looking at the world purely through the lens of economics is a very shallow way of thinking.
+1.
So should we discuss the wait time again or whether the caps are a really dark grey or actually black? Resale of this product is very much on topic and has been for at least 4 pages.
But I guess it is just that we were not really discussing the resale of that particular item but more the concept in general which has not his place here.
Anyway, so Ivan, any chance of the blank sets shipping early as they don't need to be printed*?
Anyway, so Ivan, any chance of the blank sets shipping early as they don't need to be printed*?
LOL At first I was like, "Oh no he did NOT!" Then I was like, "Awwww ya got me!"
I've been told these are almost all ready. Now we just have to see if they get them sent before Chinese New Year shuts everything down for weeks.
I can't seem to find a decicaded thread for my question but here we go.. Can someone enlighten me a bit? Like I said before in this thread that I've left Cherry boards behind and I'm willing to transfer my order away. What steps do I need to perform so I won't ruin anything up? Like, giving a new address and information to Ivan and show him a proof of payment and tell new person about the progress. Thanks :thumb:
Just put want to sell (set style) in here and hopefully someone will take it off your hands. Once they paid you just inform me and I will change your info to theirs on my order sheet so it gets sent to the new person once they are ready.
I've got a blank black PBT set up for grabs if anyone wants it. $55+$3 difference in shipping (I ordered multiple sets) plus Paypal fees to me and the set is yours. You'll have to square away shipping with Ivan I believe.Gonna shoot a PM your direction.
I've got a blank black PBT set up for grabs if anyone wants it. $55+$3 difference in shipping (I ordered multiple sets) plus Paypal fees to me and the set is yours. You'll have to square away shipping with Ivan I believe.
I've got a blank black PBT set up for grabs if anyone wants it. $55+$3 difference in shipping (I ordered multiple sets) plus Paypal fees to me and the set is yours. You'll have to square away shipping with Ivan I believe.
I'm doing the same. Took over two sets and plan to switch out a Blank set for one of the other GBs happening at the moment.
So if anyone else wants to take over a blank set: $55+3+coverage of paypal fees, and any difference in shipping to Ivan.
So how far back does chinese new year put us?
So how far back does chinese new year put us?
About as far as christmas in the states would. My guess is we'll get them 1-3 weeks into march. Hope those packages are insured :3
My blank set is still up for grabs, $58 plus PP and they're yours
My Russian set is still up for grabs. Please take it.
First post! (been getting lots of good advice from this board as I've been researching switches/caps/keyboards, so thanks :) )
I'd be interested in buying one of the blank sets if anybody decides they choose to part with them.
If I can't find anyone to buy those from, I might get these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2C517C9755&cm_re=blank_black_key-_-9SIA2C517C9755-_-Product (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2C517C9755&cm_re=blank_black_key-_-9SIA2C517C9755-_-Product)
Anyone know if those are any good? Maybe in-between ABS and PBT in terms of quality? I could live with that.
See you around.
Thanks for the welcome! I just read someone describe POM as touching keys that are already oily (like have been touched by someone eating pizza). That texture doesn't sound super appealing haha.Well if you want people giving you more insights about the POM keycaps, I think it would be better to create your own thread in the keycaps part of the forum. It is not really nice to hijack this thread. ;)
Thanks for the welcome! I just read someone describe POM as touching keys that are already oily (like have been touched by someone eating pizza). That texture doesn't sound super appealing haha.
I've been told these are almost all ready. Now we just have to see if they get them sent before Chinese New Year shuts everything down for weeks.
Thanks for the welcome! I just read someone describe POM as touching keys that are already oily (like have been touched by someone eating pizza). That texture doesn't sound super appealing haha.
POM are more "teflon-like" in texture. It's a tough, dense material that's a little more pliable than ABS, but harder wearing. I have the 84 key set of the same caps you linked to and I love them, but they don't compare to these. Firstly, they're OEM profile, these are Cherry, secondly they're medium thickness, these are thick, thirdly they're POM, these are PBT.
PBT are more "ceramic-like" and also very hard wearing.
POM give the deepest sound / absorb the most higher frequencies. Usually the heavier the cap, the more it absorbs, though, so they may be about the same in terms of sound (the Keycool POM and these thicker PBT).
Woot Wooo! Got a set!
I was really desperate, I needed the caps for my GON build. :))Woot Wooo! Got a set!
That's awesome! I saw your classifieds thread, you seemed pretty desperate. Glad you managed to get one! :thumb: (Did the guy you bought your set from have any extra blank sets? )
I was really desperate, I needed the caps for my GON build. :))
AFAIK the guy I got the set from already sold his blank set. Sorry.
They will be received this year guaranteed. I expect them to ship soon as they are back from their CNY break time.
Looking for a Black/Black or Blank US ANSI set. Please PM me if you have one, thanks
Looking for a Black/Black or Blank US ANSI set. Please PM me if you have one, thanks
Hey, weren't you looking for only a black-on-black set before? Has the lack of available sets caused you to lower your standards? :p
Looking to sell my US black on black set ASAP. I did pay a premium because I took over a set from someone overseas who paid extra for shipping. pm me
Looking for a Black/Black or Blank US ANSI set. Please PM me if you have one, thanks
Looking to sell my US black on black set ASAP. I did pay a premium because I took over a set from someone overseas who paid extra for shipping. pm me
Looking to sell my US black on black set ASAP. I did pay a premium because I took over a set from someone overseas who paid extra for shipping. pm me
!!Looking for a Black/Black or Blank US ANSI set. Please PM me if you have one, thanks
slot confirmed with sp
this set will ship to us april 16th from them, normally takes a few days to get to us from there, and we will turn it round right away
Thanks for the information. We appreciate the hard work for all the sale/GB you guys (CtrlAlt team, JD) put into. <3
I second that. Thanks for all the hard work on this. It's much appreciated!
These didn't get finished before the holiday... and there were some issues with some legend art for the Aurebesh sets which has now been resolved. I expect these should be finished up and shipped out soon. I will let you know when they have.
These didn't get finished before the holiday... and there were some issues with some legend art for the Aurebesh sets which has now been resolved. I expect these should be finished up and shipped out soon. I will let you know when they have.
Shipped to you, or Ivan?
These didn't get finished before the holiday... and there were some issues with some legend art for the Aurebesh sets which has now been resolved. I expect these should be finished up and shipped out soon. I will let you know when they have.
Shipped to you, or Ivan?
Yes
No need for excuses anymore Ivan, they'll come or they won't. The delay isn't due to CNY, that was a month ago, this goes deeper than that.
No need for excuses anymore Ivan, they'll come or they won't. The delay isn't due to CNY, that was a month ago, this goes deeper than that.
That's unnecessarily harsh, CNY was 2 weeks before Ivan's post. Given that the Chinese actually celebrate CNY, and how slowly the manufacturer has been at getting back to us, Ivan's response isn't late at all.
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
Are you claiming the dyesub process failed and ruined all the key caps? Or that Ivan lied about the caps being delivered to the dye subber? I don't feel like your claim is substantiated by actual evidence. I feel the most likely scenario is that the dye subber is taking longer than he thought he would.
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
One can only hope.We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
If your key set comes, would you promise to leave and never come back?
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.I've learned to ignore what Sergeant_Shart says in regards to this group buy. It's probably best others followed suit.
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.I've learned to ignore what Sergeant_Shart says in regards to this group buy. It's probably best others followed suit.
I don't see why everyone is complaining. It's like a free soap opera that, in the case of this groupbuy, never ends!! The gift that keeps on giving.
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
I'm honestly kind of confused here; does this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.msg1583000#msg1583000) not count as a picture of a full set just because it's somewhat cropped? Or was that not actually a picture of the caps we're getting?
Ya whens round 2 so I can get a printed set as well?
;)
I am putting up a Russian black on black set for sale as I realized the set won't work on the keyboard I have in mind as my next project and I need the money to go towards that! First pm gets it at cost.
Gone
Dammit that's what I get for sleepingI am putting up a Russian black on black set for sale as I realized the set won't work on the keyboard I have in mind as my next project and I need the money to go towards that! First pm gets it at cost.
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Hi everyone! This is my first post in the forum. I'm in this GB for PBT Black on Black, however I'm no longer interested in these; I'm using a TKL with the Penumbra set and couldn't be happier. My total for this set with all fees came to $85.28 (I'm in the US), so I'm hoping I can recoup that amount. PM me if interested and we can work out the details.Prepare your inbox...
Hi everyone! This is my first post in the forum. I'm in this GB for PBT Black on Black, however I'm no longer interested in these; I'm using a TKL with the Penumbra set and couldn't be happier. My total for this set with all fees came to $85.28 (I'm in the US), so I'm hoping I can recoup that amount. PM me if interested and we can work out the details.I would really like to take your spot if still available
I've been told they should be shipped by end of month.
would love to know if there is a round2 for these. would like to get the BOB.
*** sucks I just discovered GH and Im seeing all these awesome sets and I cant get any :( ***
do I just wait and keep checking this post for info on round2 or how do I go about it? Any info would be appreciated
would love to know if there is a round2 for these. would like to get the BOB.
*** sucks I just discovered GH and Im seeing all these awesome sets and I cant get any :( ***
do I just wait and keep checking this post for info on round2 or how do I go about it? Any info would be appreciated
*** sucks I just discovered GH and Im seeing all these awesome sets and I cant get any :( ***
do I just wait and keep checking this post for info on round2 or how do I go about it? Any info would be appreciated
would love to know if there is a round2 for these. would like to get the BOB.
I can't help with the BoB but if you want cherry profile blanks massdrop just openedba black PBT cherry profile drop for $35 you can also get side print
*** sucks I just discovered GH and Im seeing all these awesome sets and I cant get any :( ***
do I just wait and keep checking this post for info on round2 or how do I go about it? Any info would be appreciated
*** sucks I just discovered GH and Im seeing all these awesome sets and I cant get any :( ***
do I just wait and keep checking this post for info on round2 or how do I go about it? Any info would be appreciated
Check how long this GB has been running... even if you'd joined six months ago you would have missed this round! Waiting for a round 2 with baited breath probably won't get you anywhere fast.
If you want in, just keep checking this thread to see if anyone wants to get rid of a set. I joined GH at the beginning of the year and got lucky that way.
*** sucks I just discovered GH and Im seeing all these awesome sets and I cant get any :( ***
do I just wait and keep checking this post for info on round2 or how do I go about it? Any info would be appreciated
Check how long this GB has been running... even if you'd joined six months ago you would have missed this round! Waiting for a round 2 with baited breath probably won't get you anywhere fast.
If you want in, just keep checking this thread to see if anyone wants to get rid of a set. I joined GH at the beginning of the year and got lucky that way.
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any of you would like to post some images of your mechs sporting this set? that would be awesome.
thanks again.
Thank you Keymando2145 for coming through so promptly. Finally I have found a BoB PBT MX set. Since vortex stopped there BoB PBT (I wasn't a huge fan of the font but hey it was cheap) and ducky no longer offers there engraved BoB thin PBT that I'm aware of I have been looking for this set for 2-3 months. I was starting to get desperate! So Thanks again Ivan for the GB and thanks keymando2145 for the spot. This made my day 8)
Thank you Keymando2145 for coming through so promptly. Finally I have found a BoB PBT MX set. Since vortex stopped there BoB PBT (I wasn't a huge fan of the font but hey it was cheap) and ducky no longer offers there engraved BoB thin PBT that I'm aware of I have been looking for this set for 2-3 months. I was starting to get desperate! So Thanks again Ivan for the GB and thanks keymando2145 for the spot. This made my day 8)
You're welcome! Hope you love 'em! :-)
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
dude, i wasn't going to say anything, but you're seriously the biggest ***** ITT. Please shut up no one wants to hear your whining. stop wasting valuable kb's on GH's servers
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
dude, i wasn't going to say anything, but you're seriously the biggest ***** ITT. Please shut up no one wants to hear your whining. stop wasting valuable kb's on GH's servers
Oh please, like you haven't already said something. Love you too though JOhnny, kisses and hugs, I'll be around.
Remember when we were worried about CNY holding up the delivery date? LOL
Thanks joey I was heading off for work and needed a mindless little giggle :thumb:We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
dude, i wasn't going to say anything, but you're seriously the biggest ***** ITT. Please shut up no one wants to hear your whining. stop wasting valuable kb's on GH's servers
Oh please, like you haven't already said something. Love you too though JOhnny, kisses and hugs, I'll be around.Remember when we were worried about CNY holding up the delivery date? LOLShow Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/bdcwire-static-content/uploads/2014/08/cute-twin-toddlers-taekwondo-karate-fight.gif)
Ivan,
Sorry, I'll be that guy this time... We're at the end of the month tomorrow - any updates?
Ivan,
Sorry, I'll be that guy this time... We're at the end of the month tomorrow - any updates?
End of the month has come and gone in China.
edit: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=94
Isn't Imtso the one doing the printing for these?
Isn't he a GH community member?
What the *actual* **** is going on with this?
These are Black-on-Black Topre caps and have nothing to do with this groupbuy. In fact, some of the Realforce boards come with these by default (like in the picture you've linked).Ivan,
Sorry, I'll be that guy this time... We're at the end of the month tomorrow - any updates?
End of the month has come and gone in China.
edit: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=94
Isn't Imtso the one doing the printing for these?
Isn't he a GH community member?
What the *actual* **** is going on with this?
These are Black-on-Black Topre caps and have nothing to do with this groupbuy. In fact, some of the Realforce boards come with these by default (like in the picture you've linked).Ivan,
Sorry, I'll be that guy this time... We're at the end of the month tomorrow - any updates?
End of the month has come and gone in China.
edit: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=94
Isn't Imtso the one doing the printing for these?
Isn't he a GH community member?
What the *actual* **** is going on with this?
https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se19e0
These are Black-on-Black Topre caps and have nothing to do with this groupbuy. In fact, some of the Realforce boards come with these by default (like in the picture you've linked).
https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se19e0
oic.
well that's neat. My bad, etc.
Ivan, did you reveal what the extra keys were? Found reference to a stepped caps lock, maybe a 7u spacebar? Don't suppose a short right shift was included was it?
Yeah it have 'extra' as 1.5 mod, 7x spacebar.
I got confirmation they have finally finish dyesublimation. Now they are presorting and QC.
Yeah it have 'extra' as 1.5 mod, 7x spacebar.Sounds good! :) Thanks for the update.
I got confirmation they have finally finish dyesublimation. Now they are presorting and QC.
Yeah it have 'extra' as 1.5 mod, 7x spacebar.
I got confirmation they have finally finish dyesublimation. Now they are presorting and QC.
Yeah it have 'extra' as 1.5 mod, 7x spacebar.
I got confirmation they have finally finish dyesublimation. Now they are presorting and QC.
Yeah it have 'extra' as 1.5 mod, 7x spacebar.
I got confirmation they have finally finish dyesublimation. Now they are presorting and QC.
Yeah it have 'extra' as 1.5 mod, 7x spacebar.(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/yes/tumblr_lm11bt4OaK1qe6xr2.gif)
I got confirmation they have finally finish dyesublimation. Now they are presorting and QC.
looking at other GBs I see there are usually some extra. Is there another site or thread (other than here) were they would be sold?
I'm hoping there are extras but by the amount of posts I see asking to buy some I don't know. Is the best thing to do wait and keep posting here every so often that your looking for a set?
I would make a WTB thread but I am very new to the site and don't have the time to make one.
thanks in advance for the help and I hope you all get your sets soon. The design is awesome!
PS: Looking 4 black on black.
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Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
(Attachment Link)Looks just like the topre black on black keycaps :D
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
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Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
Requesting Sargeant Shart to complain about this situation.We have no proof that the picture isn't photoshopped or that ivan will even ship them out if they are real. It's all a scam guys, go home.
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Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
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Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.Show Image(https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma3c9rJk3W1qfj94uo1_400.gif)
(Attachment Link)Hmm, the color of the spacebar looks kinda off. Is it just because of the lighting?
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
(Attachment Link)Hmm, the color of the spacebar looks kinda off. Is it just because of the lighting?
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
Is this a production sample?
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Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
(Attachment Link)Hmm, the color of the spacebar looks kinda off. Is it just because of the lighting?
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
Is this a production sample?
I'm pretty certain that's the original cherry black spacebar.
Looking awesome, Only in for blanks, now wishing i got both sets somehow :D
Looking good! Is it just me or are the F and J keys scoops with nubs?
Looking good! Is it just me or are the F and J keys scoops with nubs?
Looking good! Is it just me or are the F and J keys scoops with nubs?
The million dollar question: scubs, or noops?
Looking good! Is it just me or are the F and J keys scoops with nubs?
Wow! This makes it next level type stuff!Looking good! Is it just me or are the F and J keys scoops with nubs?
Wow, nice spot. I was just wondering if it would be practical to get caps with the old school scooped keys because nubs feel a bit poo.
Here is the blank set picture posted a while ago, you can see the real spacebar, I'm assuming:Are the newly added 1.5 mods going to have the "alt" and "ctrl" text on them or are they going to be blank?Show Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50935.0;attach=86500;image)
Printed sets will be all printed. 1.5/1 key will have same as the 1.25 counterpart in the set, not blank.So they have nips then?
The sets DO NOT have scoops.
Ivan said these Vortex PBTs (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-pbt-keycaps?mode=guest_open) are the same mold, so have a look at the pictures.Printed sets will be all printed. 1.5/1 key will have same as the 1.25 counterpart in the set, not blank.So they have nips then?
The sets DO NOT have scoops.
Yes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.VERY happy to hear this! :)
Yes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Future set could have legend that say anything, in any typeface. Only problem is if there is enough buyers that want [insert legend style here] sets.
Yes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Yes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Thank you for your inputYes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Consider having the blanks shipped out first next round. Also, I don't think PLUM is really to blame here, these caps have been with IMSTO for months.
Thank you for your inputYes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Consider having the blanks shipped out first next round. Also, I don't think PLUM is really to blame here, these caps have been with IMSTO for months.
Thank you for your inputYes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Consider having the blanks shipped out first next round. Also, I don't think PLUM is really to blame here, these caps have been with IMSTO for months.
You're welcome.
Thank you for your inputYes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Consider having the blanks shipped out first next round. Also, I don't think PLUM is really to blame here, these caps have been with IMSTO for months.
You're welcome.
thank you for your input
Thank you for your inputYes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Consider having the blanks shipped out first next round. Also, I don't think PLUM is really to blame here, these caps have been with IMSTO for months.
You're welcome.
thank you for your input
You're welcome.
Thank you for your inputYes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Consider having the blanks shipped out first next round. Also, I don't think PLUM is really to blame here, these caps have been with IMSTO for months.
You're welcome.
thank you for your input
You're welcome.
Thank you for your input.More:))
So what's going on with these atm? I sold my set a while ago. Is there really no other place to get cherry profile thick black PBT caps?
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Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
So what's going on with these atm? I sold my set a while ago. Is there really no other place to get cherry profile thick black PBT caps?
So what's going on with these atm? I sold my set a while ago. Is there really no other place to get cherry profile thick black PBT caps?
We are thanking sergeant shart for his input.
We are thanking sergeant shart for his input.
Credit where credit is due - let's be honest - this groupbuy would never have happened if it weren't for Shart's encouragement.
All of this banter is great and all, but some of us use email notifications to get useful updates as we have busy lives and can't be on GH refreshing threads all day. All the pointless back and forth is not really contributing at this point and is just blowing up people's inboxes with unnecessary notifications. :(
So what's going on with these atm? I sold my set a while ago. Is there really no other place to get cherry profile thick black PBT caps?
Agreed.
Let's agree all of your input is pointless as of here on out and keep your keyboard warrioring to other threads.
Shipping to me now.
All of this banter is great and all, but some of us use email notifications to get useful updates as we have busy lives and can't be on GH refreshing threads all day. All the pointless back and forth is not really contributing at this point and is just blowing up people's inboxes with unnecessary notifications. :(
Shipping to me now.Yay!
Shipping to me now.Ivan This is great news thank you for sticking through this GB even though it seems like its been a roller coaster ride! If that pic that was posted is an actual shot of these caps then it looks like they came out great :thumb:
After a very long wait, the sets have finally arrived!
I'll begin packing up and sending orders out tomorrow.
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After a very long wait, the sets have finally arrived!
I'll begin packing up and sending orders out tomorrow.
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I love your trippy couch :)
After a very long wait, the sets have finally arrived!I love yur guard cat!! After everyone waiting so long your making sure those caps are protected :)) this is so exciting Ivan :thumb:
I'll begin packing up and sending orders out tomorrow.
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yeeeeeeee
i wonder what pattern the shipments are going out in
yeeeeeeee
i wonder what pattern the shipments are going out in
Everyone, and then 2 weeks later Sergeant_Shart.
After a very long wait, the sets have finally arrived!
I'll begin packing up and sending orders out tomorrow.
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After a very long wait, the sets have finally arrived!Any pictures of it on a board we can see before you send them out or during the mailing process?
I'll begin packing up and sending orders out tomorrow.
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Waiting for blank white thick PBT now...
Ivan,
I think I speak for everyone when I say I'll be extremely disappointed if you ship these out in anything resembling a timely matter. To stay consistent with this group buy you should now lose the boxes for about 4 weeks, send your cat out to look for them for another 2 months, then report that they were just sitting in the middle of your living room the whole time. Only then can you legitimately attempt to ship them out.
Ivan,Oh, you!
I think I speak for everyone when I say I'll be extremely disappointed if you ship these out in anything resembling a timely matter. To stay consistent with this group buy you should now lose the boxes for about 4 weeks, send your cat out to look for them for another 2 months, then report that they were just sitting in the middle of your living room the whole time. Only then can you legitimately attempt to ship them out.
Ivan,
I think I speak for everyone when I say I'll be extremely disappointed if you ship these out in anything resembling a timely matter. To stay consistent with this group buy you should now lose the boxes for about 4 weeks, send your cat out to look for them for another 2 months, then report that they were just sitting in the middle of your living room the whole time. Only then can you legitimately attempt to ship them out.
Genuinely surprised some people around here haven't been given mandatory refunds already. I'm sure there are plenty who'd be happy to take their spot.
Genuinely surprised some people around here haven't been given mandatory refunds already. I'm sure there are plenty who'd be happy to take their spot.
Its not worth worrying about. We needed all the help we could get to reach the MOQ for this, and everyone paid the same. It's unwise to think anyone deserves these or doesn't, we all purchased them. Have you heard of a "troll" before?
I have. The existence of a label for that kind of behaviour doesn't make it acceptable though, in my opinion. Anyway, I'm aware it's not my decision, and you are right about the MOQ. One way or another it's a good thing this group buy has happened, judging by the pictures of the sets.Genuinely surprised some people around here haven't been given mandatory refunds already. I'm sure there are plenty who'd be happy to take their spot.
Its not worth worrying about. We needed all the help we could get to reach the MOQ for this, and everyone paid the same. It's unwise to think anyone deserves these or doesn't, we all purchased them. Have you heard of a "troll" before?
Man, some people are just wound up too tightly. I was making a joke, and no I don't blame Ivan for the delays - that's why the entire post centered on a need for him to create an extended delay so he could 'fit in' with the rest of the legs of the group buy.For the record, I know you were just poking fun :)
Certainly it's not worth starting an argument about, so take a deep breath, count down from 10 backwards and let's all enjoy the keycaps when they are delivered.
Man, some people are just wound up too tightly. I was making a joke, and no I don't blame Ivan for the delays - that's why the entire post centered on a need for him to create an extended delay so he could 'fit in' with the rest of the legs of the group buy.I think everyone understood that :)
Certainly it's not worth starting an argument about, so take a deep breath, count down from 10 backwards and let's all enjoy the keycaps when they are delivered.
Man, some people are just wound up too tightly. I was making a joke, and no I don't blame Ivan for the delays - that's why the entire post centered on a need for him to create an extended delay so he could 'fit in' with the rest of the legs of the group buy.For the record, I know you were just poking fun :)
Certainly it's not worth starting an argument about, so take a deep breath, count down from 10 backwards and let's all enjoy the keycaps when they are delivered.
Regardless, I think we can all (well, mostly all) agree that we're happy this is drawing to a close. :)
Cats not included!!!
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
Cats not included!!!igetthatreference.xml
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
Cats not included!!!omfg I cannot wait that long does anyone want to buy my order!! :)) THAT WAS ALSO A JOKE thanks Ivan too bad about the cat though ...
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
Cats not included!!!
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
Cats not included!!!
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
Frankly, this is getting a little ridiculous - with the amount of time we've been waiting I feel like you should be sending 3-4 keys MINIMUM a month, if not 5-6.
Genuinely surprised some people around here haven't been given mandatory refunds already. I'm sure there are plenty who'd be happy to take their spot.
Its not worth worrying about. We needed all the help we could get to reach the MOQ for this, and everyone paid the same. It's unwise to think anyone deserves these or doesn't, we all purchased them. Have you heard of a "troll" before?
I'm not even trolling. This all started when I was requesting updates because we were going several weeks to months without anything. You J0be Nub and many others decided to start getting offensive. I'm just playing the games you guys continue to play. This is all just par for the course on a 3 year GB.
Cats not included!!!igetthatreference.json
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
Cats not included!!!igetthatreference.mdf
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
FTFY
Genuinely surprised some people around here haven't been given mandatory refunds already. I'm sure there are plenty who'd be happy to take their spot.
Its not worth worrying about. We needed all the help we could get to reach the MOQ for this, and everyone paid the same. It's unwise to think anyone deserves these or doesn't, we all purchased them. Have you heard of a "troll" before?
I'm not even trolling. This all started when I was requesting updates because we were going several weeks to months without anything. You J0be Nub and many others decided to start getting offensive. I'm just playing the games you guys continue to play. This is all just par for the course on a 3 year GB.
Thank you for your input
That is great news! 1 year 5 months 8 days is worth the wait!
Well, with the addition of the 1.5 mods, 7x spacebar, and 1.75 shift you are really not too limited on where you can place them board wise.
Well, with the addition of the 1.5 mods, 7x spacebar, and 1.75 shift you are really not too limited on where you can place them board wise.Wow! I guess I missed that info on the first go around. I didn't know their was a 1.75 shift. Great!
Well, with the addition of the 1.5 mods, 7x spacebar, and 1.75 shift you are really not too limited on where you can place them board wise.
Well, with the addition of the 1.5 mods, 7x spacebar, and 1.75 shift you are really not too limited on where you can place them board wise.
I didn't realize a 1.75u shift was being included! This set just keeps getting better.
+1 I'll be making a formal WTB soon, but if anyone has an extra Black on Black set their looking for someone to take, please let me know! :)Well, with the addition of the 1.5 mods, 7x spacebar, and 1.75 shift you are really not too limited on where you can place them board wise.
I didn't realize a 1.75u shift was being included! This set just keeps getting better.
omg, I wish I didn't ordered a blank set so I don't have to sell it. Anyone has black on black set they are willing to part?
Well, with the addition of the 1.5 mods, 7x spacebar, and 1.75 shift you are really not too limited on where you can place them board wise.
Waiting for blank white thick PBT now...
Yeah I really need a thick white Cherry profile blank pbt set. My GON project can't be finished until I find one.
For those that missed out, I will be doing another round as soon as I finish shipping this one. Of course the lead time will be much faster next time too.
Sure, there is always some key someone will be wanting that isn't available. But at least a LOT of progress has been made with getting the molds done for more common keys. Hopefully ISO enter which has been one of big hang ups for international buyers will be taken care of soon too. It will be nice to have the option to offer some of the really hard to find language layout that are generally ISO when/if that finally comes through.
this group buy is the reason i joined GH.
and this will now go on my poker iii now, how times have changed.
As I already said, I will be offering black PBTs again as soon as these are done shipping.Would something like jelly POM be possible? :eek:
In regard for white... I may look into doing some POM sets in the near future. Those will only be available as blank, but should be pretty cheap like somewhere around $27-35 a set. Though, on the other hand colors are option too... so we could go for some bright neon color or something too. I only worry about making MOQ for those.
As I already said, I will be offering black PBTs again as soon as these are done shipping.Would something like jelly POM be possible? :eek:
In regard for white... I may look into doing some POM sets in the near future. Those will only be available as blank, but should be pretty cheap like somewhere around $27-35 a set. Though, on the other hand colors are option too... so we could go for some bright neon color or something too. I only worry about making MOQ for those.
As I already said, I will be offering black PBTs again as soon as these are done shipping.
In regard for white... I may look into doing some POM sets in the near future. Those will only be available as blank, but should be pretty cheap like somewhere around $27-35 a set. Though, on the other hand colors are option too... so we could go for some bright neon color or something too. I only worry about making MOQ for those.
Of course POM would be done in Cherry profile, it same company same molds as these PBTs so the same key selection would be available.
I'm not sure about the opacity of white or other colors... but it might be possible to get them semi translucent 'jelly' type. I've been talking to them a little about it. Will have to see how some samples turn out.
If a color is picked instead of white, keep in mind it's still a 300 MOQ per color, so I am not too sure of the feasibility of offering more than one color at a time.
Of course POM would be done in Cherry profile, it same company same molds as these PBTs so the same key selection would be available.Hmmm, feng had a MOQ of 250 on his jelly sets.
I'm not sure about the opacity of white or other colors... but it might be possible to get them semi translucent 'jelly' type. I've been talking to them a little about it. Will have to see how some samples turn out.
If a color is picked instead of white, keep in mind it's still a 300 MOQ per color, so I am not too sure of the feasibility of offering more than one color at a time.
Of course POM would be done in Cherry profile, it same company same molds as these PBTs so the same key selection would be available.Hmmm, feng had a MOQ of 250 on his jelly sets.
I'm not sure about the opacity of white or other colors... but it might be possible to get them semi translucent 'jelly' type. I've been talking to them a little about it. Will have to see how some samples turn out.
If a color is picked instead of white, keep in mind it's still a 300 MOQ per color, so I am not too sure of the feasibility of offering more than one color at a time.
Was that the actual vendor MOQ or the user MOQ that he was subsidizing with his own vendor purchases? Also, was it the same supplier?
The manufactory requires 500 MOQ which is really hard to reach. I might be doing a interest check first to see how many are interested.
Of course POM would be done in Cherry profile, it same company same molds as these PBTs so the same key selection would be available.Hmmm, feng had a MOQ of 250 on his jelly sets.
I'm not sure about the opacity of white or other colors... but it might be possible to get them semi translucent 'jelly' type. I've been talking to them a little about it. Will have to see how some samples turn out.
If a color is picked instead of white, keep in mind it's still a 300 MOQ per color, so I am not too sure of the feasibility of offering more than one color at a time.
Was that the actual vendor MOQ or the user MOQ that he was subsidizing with his own vendor purchases? Also, was it the same supplier?
Oops, it actually was 500! Sorry, my mistake.The manufactory requires 500 MOQ which is really hard to reach. I might be doing a interest check first to see how many are interested.
Nevermind.
We could totally hit 300 for a hot pink cap set.
We could totally hit 300 for a hot pink cap set.
Once I know more about what is possible in POM I will make some kind of interest check with a poll or something and go from there. Or, I could just play it safe and go with white as POM takes dye really well too so people can always DIY colors with idye or whatever.
I assume those who've had theirs shipped will be getting PMs soon?
Nope, I don't individually notify or send tracking number anymore. It takes up too much of my time which is better spent actually getting packages sent.
That said, I can always provide tracking (where applicable) if package is overdue or something so you can follow up with the post office.
Wife said I got a package from Ivan today, I'm thinking its my pitch black sets! So freaking hyped I might leave work early so I can go drool all over these keys. :))
I wish I had a wife to receive my packages. :(
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Also, scoops + nibs = sex
Not the best lighting, it makes it look more navy colored than it actually is.Show Image(http://imgur.com/dzpFSTF.jpg)
Not the best lighting, it makes it look more navy colored than it actually is.Show Image(http://imgur.com/dzpFSTF.jpg)
These look alot better than I expected!Not the best lighting, it makes it look more navy colored than it actually is.Show Image(http://imgur.com/dzpFSTF.jpg)
woo!! looks great, man.
I think that's always a problem with keycap group buys. Hard to tell from renders. Need a production sample.These look alot better than I expected!Not the best lighting, it makes it look more navy colored than it actually is.Show Image(http://imgur.com/dzpFSTF.jpg)
woo!! looks great, man.
Wow!
my only regret is I didn't buy two of each.
First impressions? **** BSP Black Otaku. Should have never been impatient and given a dime towards that other buy. This was worth every minute of the wait, my only regret is I didn't buy two of each.
Not the best lighting, it makes it look more navy colored than it actually is.Show Image(http://imgur.com/dzpFSTF.jpg)
my only regret is I didn't buy two of each.
you and everyone else... xD
except oobly
Blanks on my Phantom (in a Filco ninja case)
Ivan said that the Vortex caps come from the same molds.Blanks on my Phantom (in a Filco ninja case)
Can you take a photo of a filco cap next to the new keycaps? These look just like the grey vortex caps on massdrop from the pics.
Ivan said that the Vortex caps come from the same molds.Blanks on my Phantom (in a Filco ninja case)
Can you take a photo of a filco cap next to the new keycaps? These look just like the grey vortex caps on massdrop from the pics.
Ahh, I see.Ivan said that the Vortex caps come from the same molds.Blanks on my Phantom (in a Filco ninja case)
Can you take a photo of a filco cap next to the new keycaps? These look just like the grey vortex caps on massdrop from the pics.
Aren't molds just for the shape and profile? More concerned with how grey they look, at least in the pictures being shown.
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Also, scoops + nibs = sex
People in the states getting their keys - are these coming via USPS? My apartment has all sorts of wacky rituals that need to be conducted before I can pick up packages and different shipping companies require different rites to be conducted.
People in the states getting their keys - are these coming via USPS? My apartment has all sorts of wacky rituals that need to be conducted before I can pick up packages and different shipping companies require different rites to be conducted.
I just got my keys and started slapping em onto my KUL ES-87. It's a pretty common board, so if anyone else is in my shoes let me know:
Basically, my space bar is sticking with this new one. I put on the old one and it works just fine but when I press the spacebar with the new guy on there it's not springing back up correctly, it's like he just wants to be there bottomed out. Any tips?
P.S. they look sexy as hell Ivan is Awesome!
edit- if i just *barely* press it onto the switch then it's working just fine now. it sits a few mm higher than the other keys though. Think it just needs to be "worn in"
Edit 2: Potato pic. I use a black cable @ home, white was all I had onhand at the office.
I just got my keys and started slapping em onto my KUL ES-87. It's a pretty common board, so if anyone else is in my shoes let me know:
Basically, my space bar is sticking with this new one. I put on the old one and it works just fine but when I press the spacebar with the new guy on there it's not springing back up correctly, it's like he just wants to be there bottomed out. Any tips?
P.S. they look sexy as hell Ivan is Awesome!
edit- if i just *barely* press it onto the switch then it's working just fine now. it sits a few mm higher than the other keys though. Think it just needs to be "worn in"
Edit 2: Potato pic. I use a black cable @ home, white was all I had onhand at the office.
I had a similar problem with my spacebar but on a much different keyboard so I don't know if this will help you in any way. My keyboard is a modded filco with a universal TKL plate and cherry stabilizers. My problem ended up being caused by the stabilizer bar. It was probably 1mm too wide so it was binding against the inside of the stabilizer assembly. I had to shave off some metal with a dremel.
+2. Stabilizer is rubbing. You need to sand or "shave" the inside of the spacebar to give the stabilizer an extra .25mm of room on the insides of both sides.I just got my keys and started slapping em onto my KUL ES-87. It's a pretty common board, so if anyone else is in my shoes let me know:
Basically, my space bar is sticking with this new one. I put on the old one and it works just fine but when I press the spacebar with the new guy on there it's not springing back up correctly, it's like he just wants to be there bottomed out. Any tips?
P.S. they look sexy as hell Ivan is Awesome!
edit- if i just *barely* press it onto the switch then it's working just fine now. it sits a few mm higher than the other keys though. Think it just needs to be "worn in"
Edit 2: Potato pic. I use a black cable @ home, white was all I had onhand at the office.
I had a similar problem with my spacebar but on a much different keyboard so I don't know if this will help you in any way. My keyboard is a modded filco with a universal TKL plate and cherry stabilizers. My problem ended up being caused by the stabilizer bar. It was probably 1mm too wide so it was binding against the inside of the stabilizer assembly. I had to shave off some metal with a dremel.
+1 most likely your stabilizer is rubbing
+2. Stabilizer is rubbing. You need to sand or "shave" the inside of the spacebar to give the stabilizer an extra .25mm of room on the insides of both sides.
Yes, on the 6.25 due to how many different spots there are for the stabilizer mount I can see how that may cause some rubbing issues, especially with Cherry stabs. Clipping the walls off the stabilizer slider guide may also be another way to solve it.I thought Costar stabs were the problematic ones?
These don't have markings for which row, so just start with the bigger keys and it becomes apparent where everything belongs. Cherry has the same basic shape as OEM as well, they are all just shorter.
:DWill you have any sets for sale imsto?
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later:DWill you have any sets for sale imsto?
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:DYou picked the PERFECT board to showcase this set my god ! What model cherry is this IMSTO? Looks gorgeous.
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That's a g80-3000.:DYou picked the PERFECT board to showcase this set my god ! What model cherry is this IMSTO? Looks gorgeous.
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is this rare I'm going to try and hunt one down heheThat's a g80-3000.:DYou picked the PERFECT board to showcase this set my god ! What model cherry is this IMSTO? Looks gorgeous.
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Nope, you can find them all over the place. They don't have the best build quality though.is this rare I'm going to try and hunt one down heheThat's a g80-3000.:DYou picked the PERFECT board to showcase this set my god ! What model cherry is this IMSTO? Looks gorgeous.
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thanks flyers I just went from :eek: to :) to :(Nope, you can find them all over the place. They are flimsy as hell though.is this rare I'm going to try and hunt one down heheThat's a g80-3000.:DYou picked the PERFECT board to showcase this set my god ! What model cherry is this IMSTO? Looks gorgeous.
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I think they compliment a Filco case very well, that's what I would put a set on if I ever find one!thanks flyers I just went from :eek: to :) to :(Nope, you can find them all over the place. They are flimsy as hell though.is this rare I'm going to try and hunt one down heheThat's a g80-3000.:DYou picked the PERFECT board to showcase this set my god ! What model cherry is this IMSTO? Looks gorgeous.
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:DWhy does the spacebar look different?
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I think they compliment a Filco case very well, that's what I would put a set on if I ever find one!
I think they compliment a Filco case very well, that's what I would put a set on if I ever find one!
Crappy image quality thanks to my ancient phone, but this is them on a Filco with/without flash.
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Filco has wire stabs so it should work fine.
I think they compliment a Filco case very well, that's what I would put a set on if I ever find one!
Crappy image quality thanks to my ancient phone, but this is them on a Filco with/without flash.
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Did you have any issues with the stabilizers rubbing?
Realized after I took these photos that the K key was the wrong profile. Doh.I noticed your space bar stabilizer bar is visible, I think something might not be aligned perfectly on yours right now because mine is completely hidden. I can't see the metal at all.Show Image(http://i.cubeupload.com/37Xy2b.jpg)Show Image(http://i.cubeupload.com/N5z39r.jpg)Show Image(http://i.cubeupload.com/9QgYID.jpg)
It's aligned fine and on as far as it will go, I don't know why it seems to sit just a tad higher. I know it is warped just slightly upward on the ends but even then.Realized after I took these photos that the K key was the wrong profile. Doh.I noticed your space bar stabilizer bar is visible, I think something might not be aligned perfectly on yours right now because mine is completely hidden. I can't see the metal at all.Show Image(http://i.cubeupload.com/37Xy2b.jpg)Show Image(http://i.cubeupload.com/N5z39r.jpg)Show Image(http://i.cubeupload.com/9QgYID.jpg)
I like the red LED change, the blue is really bright. Got any tips on doing that? Is it just a matter of a little solder?
Lu_e, I noticed mine came with 2 scoops for home and 1 non-scoop for the keypad. All three are lines though, and since I bought two sets I can either do scoops or non-scoops! :D
Got my sets today. A couple of keys were missing that I'm hoping imsto will help fix me up with, but otherwise I really love the look and feel of these.Awesome pictures as always Naasfu! I really want to see someone post the Cyrillic version!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PrLIOax.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/olHd2sE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WNaKQ0Y.jpg)
If keys are missing, do we talk to imsto or Ivan?Got my sets today. A couple of keys were missing that I'm hoping imsto will help fix me up with, but otherwise I really love the look and feel of these.Awesome pictures as always Naasfu! I really want to see someone post the Cyrillic version!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PrLIOax.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/olHd2sE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WNaKQ0Y.jpg)
Just received mine (was in our old house, forgot to ask Ivan to change shipping address). Gonna check if everythings okay.
Heres some comparison between this and from the Vortex Mass Drop blank PBT
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The Vortex look nicer, glad I didn't pass on those to wait here. Probably just sell these.
Just received mine (was in our old house, forgot to ask Ivan to change shipping address). Gonna check if everythings okay.
Heres some comparison between this and from the Vortex Mass Drop blank PBT
Left: Ivan GB
Right: Vortex Massdrop GBShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/F1Ahb26.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JIvEUft.jpg)
The vortex key has label/stamp which profile is the keyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZPJ4eHN.jpg)
Just received mine (was in our old house, forgot to ask Ivan to change shipping address). Gonna check if everythings okay.
Heres some comparison between this and from the Vortex Mass Drop blank PBT
Left: Ivan GB
Right: Vortex Massdrop GBShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/F1Ahb26.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JIvEUft.jpg)
The vortex key has label/stamp which profile is the keyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZPJ4eHN.jpg)
Aside from the 2nd photo, I can't tell the difference. Glad I got the Black on Black set :thumb:
haven't received mine yet probably next week :'(
but as far as this comparison i can tell maybe that the gb set where the cross is for the input, looks so much better than the vortex one.. more sturdy/stable and not "moving" when you touch the keys.
anyways im so excited getting my blank blacks soon :p
PS: anyone has any idea how I should replace the keys on my Filco Brown?
I've removed the old keycaps but do I need to remove those white tabs (used for the metal wire) and put them in these?
and I should go Google the layout again lol
PS: anyone has any idea how I should replace the keys on my Filco Brown?
I've removed the old keycaps but do I need to remove those white tabs (used for the metal wire) and put them in these?
and I should go Google the layout again lol
Yep you'll need those inserts. Those are the Costar stabilizer inserts, and you'll need to put them in the new keys (mind whether they are frontward or backward, one "side" is longer than the other) and then insert the wire as you replace the keycap. :thumb:
PS: anyone has any idea how I should replace the keys on my Filco Brown?
I've removed the old keycaps but do I need to remove those white tabs (used for the metal wire) and put them in these?
and I should go Google the layout again lol
Yep you'll need those inserts. Those are the Costar stabilizer inserts, and you'll need to put them in the new keys (mind whether they are frontward or backward, one "side" is longer than the other) and then insert the wire as you replace the keycap. :thumb:
thanks! any idea how to get them off - they seem stuck to my old Filco keycaps :/
and are we supposed to get 114 keys which each pack/order?
PS: anyone has any idea how I should replace the keys on my Filco Brown?
I've removed the old keycaps but do I need to remove those white tabs (used for the metal wire) and put them in these?
and I should go Google the layout again lol
Yep you'll need those inserts. Those are the Costar stabilizer inserts, and you'll need to put them in the new keys (mind whether they are frontward or backward, one "side" is longer than the other) and then insert the wire as you replace the keycap. :thumb:
thanks! any idea how to get them off - they seem stuck to my old Filco keycaps :/
and are we supposed to get 114 keys which each pack/order?
In the past, I've pulled inserts out with a small pair of pliers, and levered them out from the cap base with a small flathead screwdriver if there's enough room to get one in there. Just be gentle with them, you don't want to break or deform the insert.
These are suuuuuper tight, by the way, like ludicrously so. I had to push pretty hard to get them fully seated, the warning they came with was pretty accurate. I put a little silicone lubricant on the stems before putting them on but I'm still a little nervous about eventually taking them off.
I got mine today and they're awesome. Thank you, Ivan!
I really like the top surface being slightly narrower. Maybe I'm crazy, but it feels like a big difference. Like my fingers don't get snagged on the edges of keys as much as they did with stock Filco keys. The texture also matches the Filco case perfectly. When you look at them from an angle with slight light hitting them, they look like part of the case.
The only con is how tight they are on the stems. You have to put a lot of force to get it on all the way and get it level. Remember not to pull them straight up and off, but to wiggle them back and forth, or you might pull a stem off with the key. Be super careful with the space bar. I forgot to put an o-ring on mine and had to pull it off, and it felt like it was cemented on :eek:. The letter it came with said to maybe use some lube, but that would be a nightmare when it comes time to clean. Lube will attract and buildup the dust, hairs, etc that gets under the keyboard. I think you're better off just letting them wear in over time from pulling them and putting them back on.
I have some high-viscosity grease that was intended for my stabs. Should I use something more akin to oil than grease? Ivan's note mentions grease specifically so I'm assuming it's okay?I got mine today and they're awesome. Thank you, Ivan!
I really like the top surface being slightly narrower. Maybe I'm crazy, but it feels like a big difference. Like my fingers don't get snagged on the edges of keys as much as they did with stock Filco keys. The texture also matches the Filco case perfectly. When you look at them from an angle with slight light hitting them, they look like part of the case.
The only con is how tight they are on the stems. You have to put a lot of force to get it on all the way and get it level. Remember not to pull them straight up and off, but to wiggle them back and forth, or you might pull a stem off with the key. Be super careful with the space bar. I forgot to put an o-ring on mine and had to pull it off, and it felt like it was cemented on :eek:. The letter it came with said to maybe use some lube, but that would be a nightmare when it comes time to clean. Lube will attract and buildup the dust, hairs, etc that gets under the keyboard. I think you're better off just letting them wear in over time from pulling them and putting them back on.
This is the truth. I was amazed at how tightly these fit on my clear stems. Definitely recommend taking your time when removing these keys or you will almost definitely pop switches apart.
I have some high-viscosity grease that was intended for my stabs. Should I use something more akin to oil than grease? Ivan's note mentions grease specifically so I'm assuming it's okay?I got mine today and they're awesome. Thank you, Ivan!
I really like the top surface being slightly narrower. Maybe I'm crazy, but it feels like a big difference. Like my fingers don't get snagged on the edges of keys as much as they did with stock Filco keys. The texture also matches the Filco case perfectly. When you look at them from an angle with slight light hitting them, they look like part of the case.
The only con is how tight they are on the stems. You have to put a lot of force to get it on all the way and get it level. Remember not to pull them straight up and off, but to wiggle them back and forth, or you might pull a stem off with the key. Be super careful with the space bar. I forgot to put an o-ring on mine and had to pull it off, and it felt like it was cemented on :eek:. The letter it came with said to maybe use some lube, but that would be a nightmare when it comes time to clean. Lube will attract and buildup the dust, hairs, etc that gets under the keyboard. I think you're better off just letting them wear in over time from pulling them and putting them back on.
This is the truth. I was amazed at how tightly these fit on my clear stems. Definitely recommend taking your time when removing these keys or you will almost definitely pop switches apart.
Can someone comment on how scratch prone these are?I tried really hard on my Vortex PBT caps with my fingernails, but I can't see any scratch on the keycap.
I've found that PBT is easily scratched with a fingernail. Needless to say, if you're going to try scratching one, do it on a spare keycap, or an edge/side that's not visible.
potato-ish pic, but loving these caps :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HSvVZ3j.jpg)
potato-ish pic, but loving these caps :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HSvVZ3j.jpg)
Is it just me or does your A key have the wrong profile cap on it?
Potato pics of 6.25 and 7 unit spacebars
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These look similar to stem setup on the gateron key caps spacebar.Potato pics of 6.25 and 7 unit spacebars
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Thank you sir! Looks like I'll finally have a full Cherry keyset for my Leopold, other than the navy blue one I already have.
Was the short right shift indeed made? Neither of my blank sets have it. I counted them today before packing to re-ship.
Yes, all the blank sets are missing the 1.75 shift key. Sorry about that. It is a 'freebie extra' as it was not originally going to be included in these sets at all. If you require this key for immediate delivery, please contact imsto and be prepared to pay a small shipping charge.
Potato pics of 6.25 and 7 unit spacebars
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Is the 7u spacebar PBT?
Is the 7u spacebar PBT?
To me the material feels and looks the same so I'd put my money on yes.
Vortex apparently acquired the mold too recently, Ivan's r4 PBT orders all have 1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5-1-1.5 PBT keys being included! One of the big reasons I joined in the first place, it's really cool to see them being more common now, I hope they don't suffer from warping much, as I think that was one of the biggest reasons manufacturers shy'd away from them.Is the 7u spacebar PBT?
To me the material feels and looks the same so I'd put my money on yes.
Pretty cool. I was lucky enough to snatch a set up off IMSTO's website as he had a few in stock. They sold out very quick though.
I don't see a ton of 7u PBT spacebars being produced. In fact, the only that I'm aware of being made recently is from granite.
Vortex apparently acquired the mold too recently, Ivan's r4 PBT orders all have 1.5-1-7-1.5-1 PBT keys being included! One of the big reasons I joined in the first place, it's really cool to see them being more common now, I hope they don't suffer from warping much, as I think that was one of the biggest reasons manufacturers shy'd away from them.Is the 7u spacebar PBT?
To me the material feels and looks the same so I'd put my money on yes.
Pretty cool. I was lucky enough to snatch a set up off IMSTO's website as he had a few in stock. They sold out very quick though.
I don't see a ton of 7u PBT spacebars being produced. In fact, the only that I'm aware of being made recently is from granite.
Vortex apparently acquired the mold too recently, Ivan's r4 PBT orders all have 1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5-1-1.5 PBT keys being included! One of the big reasons I joined in the first place, it's really cool to see them being more common now, I hope they don't suffer from warping much, as I think that was one of the biggest reasons manufacturers shy'd away from them.Is the 7u spacebar PBT?
To me the material feels and looks the same so I'd put my money on yes.
Pretty cool. I was lucky enough to snatch a set up off IMSTO's website as he had a few in stock. They sold out very quick though.
I don't see a ton of 7u PBT spacebars being produced. In fact, the only that I'm aware of being made recently is from granite.
Hmm.. I think you're right. For some reason I assumed the set included a 1.75 right shift. It's been so long so I might have confused it with a different group buy or something hahaSo, some of the blank sets don't have the 1.75 shift, right?
Oh well, I have nothing to put on there so might as well keep it like this.
Hmm.. I think you're right. For some reason I assumed the set included a 1.75 right shift. It's been so long so I might have confused it with a different group buy or something hahaSo, some of the blank sets don't have the 1.75 shift, right?
Oh well, I have nothing to put on there so might as well keep it like this.
Yes, all the blank sets are missing the 1.75 shift key. Sorry about that. It is a 'freebie extra' as it was not originally going to be included in these sets at all. If you require this key for immediate delivery, please contact imsto and be prepared to pay a small shipping charge.
AVAILABLE EXTRAS:
1x Aurebesh:Darkside
1x blank
If you want to pick up one of these extras please send a PM with your paypal email and shipping address and I will get you an invoice.
Thanks
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No... what happened was the 1.75 shifts were forgotten on the blank sets, they are all sitting in a box at imsto's.
No... what happened was the 1.75 shifts were forgotten on the blank sets, they are all sitting in a box at imsto's.
So how would one go about getting one? Contact imsto directly? I only have to pay shipping then for it since it should have been included in the set?
Yes, all the blank sets are missing the 1.75 shift key. Sorry about that. It is a 'freebie extra' as it was not originally going to be included in these sets at all. If you require this key for immediate delivery, please contact imsto and be prepared to pay a small shipping charge.
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
It's too bad you couldn't delay some of the complainers on here :D
Welp, thats unfortunate... Any idea of when you'll get more of the sets Ivan?
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>Does that mean I can change my shipping address? I can't remember what you have on file for me at the moment :/
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
You can PM Ivan for tracking I believe.ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
Never got mine, should I just assume you didn't ship me a set and contact Visa?
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
Never got mine, should I just assume you didn't ship me a set and contact Visa?
Oh what a shame about the 1.75x keys, that was the main reason I decided to sell my set as all my keyboards use a Pure layout. Might have to see if someone wants to sell a set!
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
It's too bad you couldn't delay some of the complainers on here :D
you mean the one complainer?
Never got mine
Never got mine
This made me happy.
Oh what a shame about the 1.75x keys, that was the main reason I decided to sell my set as all my keyboards use a Pure layout. Might have to see if someone wants to sell a set!
Wait (and pardon me if I am being stupid), I thought that Vortex doesn't do 1.75u shifts? I didn't see anything mentioned in the first post, and I would have been quite interested in a set if I had known!
Does this mean that there might be the chance of a 1.75u shift included with the PBT beige/white sets in the future?
Oh what a shame about the 1.75x keys, that was the main reason I decided to sell my set as all my keyboards use a Pure layout. Might have to see if someone wants to sell a set!
Wait (and pardon me if I am being stupid), I thought that Vortex doesn't do 1.75u shifts? I didn't see anything mentioned in the first post, and I would have been quite interested in a set if I had known!
Does this mean that there might be the chance of a 1.75u shift included with the PBT beige/white sets in the future?
These weren't made by Vortex
I just got my set, looks AWESOME, although I have some miscoloring on some keys, does any1 else also have this problem?Pics?
Can I use this spacebar on a fc660m?
I actually thought that might be a problem. I saw the new stabilizer holes then wondered how the pcb mount stabs would clear it.
Can I use this spacebar on a fc660m?
EDIT: realized I'm working on a FC200RT - I also have a FC660C (Topre) which is why I confused them. Not sure if the FC200RT and FC660M have the same spacebar, but I don't think they do as my FC660C spacebar is a little shorter than my FC200RT.
Kinda sorta, but not really. I'm having problems getting it to work on mine. There are stems that line up with the FC200RT spacebar, but the stems that are directly next to them on the space bar are interfering with the posts that surround the stabilizer mounts. I pressed mine on pretty hard, as I had to with all of these caps due to how tight they are, and you can actually see if you look closely in the picture where the plastic is damaged on the bar and causes it to bind up. I am thinking I will have to take a dremel tool or knife to the stems on the spacebar to cut out a slit in the plastic for the posts on the board (that surround the stabilizers) to fit into, which will likely make those stems unusable if i need them in the future which is a bummer.
In this image, I put green arrows where the stems line up for this board, and the red arrows are showing the "bad contact" that makes it not fit. You can see red arrows pointing to the corners of the stabilizer posts, and the stems where it makes contact (where I need to make cutouts).
Also, the backspace key fits, but it's really mushy and squeaky. I can't tell where it's rubbing causing the squeak, but I'm going to try working on it more later.
The caps are wonderful, although I wish they weren't so tight, and I didn't read the "instructions" about using grease before I installed them, because, well, I've never needed instructions for keycaps before :'( I wish I had, as I'm concerned about breaking switches when I remove these to put on my Triumph Adler set when it comes... Maybe I'll just need to buy another board for the TA caps :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8Ufh1S5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Eie4ZtH.jpg)
Exactly... clip off the corner guides on the stabs. They don't matter at all really. It will be easier in the end than filing out the additional posts on the keycap.
Exactly... clip off the corner guides on the stabs. They don't matter at all really. It will be easier in the end than filing out the additional posts on the keycap.
Exactly... clip off the corner guides on the stabs. They don't matter at all really. It will be easier in the end than filing out the additional posts on the keycap.
Thanks Ivan! I'll take that approach. Any ideas what might be rubbing on the backspace key? I need to spend some more time looking at that tonight
Exactly... clip off the corner guides on the stabs. They don't matter at all really. It will be easier in the end than filing out the additional posts on the keycap.Exactly... clip off the corner guides on the stabs. They don't matter at all really. It will be easier in the end than filing out the additional posts on the keycap.
Thanks Ivan! I'll take that approach. Any ideas what might be rubbing on the backspace key? I need to spend some more time looking at that tonight
A true GeekHack solution would have involved buying another keyboard. :)
Can I use this spacebar on a fc660m?
EDIT: realized I'm working on a FC200RT - I also have a FC660C (Topre) which is why I confused them. Not sure if the FC200RT and FC660M have the same spacebar, but I don't think they do as my FC660C spacebar is a little shorter than my FC200RT.
Kinda sorta, but not really. I'm having problems getting it to work on mine. There are stems that line up with the FC200RT spacebar, but the stems that are directly next to them on the space bar are interfering with the posts that surround the stabilizer mounts. I pressed mine on pretty hard, as I had to with all of these caps due to how tight they are, and you can actually see if you look closely in the picture where the plastic is damaged on the bar and causes it to bind up. I am thinking I will have to take a dremel tool or knife to the stems on the spacebar to cut out a slit in the plastic for the posts on the board (that surround the stabilizers) to fit into, which will likely make those stems unusable if i need them in the future which is a bummer.
In this image, I put green arrows where the stems line up for this board, and the red arrows are showing the "bad contact" that makes it not fit. You can see red arrows pointing to the corners of the stabilizer posts, and the stems where it makes contact (where I need to make cutouts).
Also, the backspace key fits, but it's really mushy and squeaky. I can't tell where it's rubbing causing the squeak, but I'm going to try working on it more later.
The caps are wonderful, although I wish they weren't so tight, and I didn't read the "instructions" about using grease before I installed them, because, well, I've never needed instructions for keycaps before :'( I wish I had, as I'm concerned about breaking switches when I remove these to put on my Triumph Adler set when it comes... Maybe I'll just need to buy another board for the TA caps :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8Ufh1S5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Eie4ZtH.jpg)
I went ahead and clipped off the stabilizer surrounds, and that did the trick. Also took the opportunity to use mech lube on the surrounding keys. For the backspace key, I did the same thing - removed all the stab surrounds and that helped a lot. It's still not perfect, it rubs a bit and feels scratchy, but at least it's not sticking any more and is not squeaking.
These keys are wonderful and really improved the feel and sound of the whole board, improved my accuracy as well. I like the profile. I was using DSA Dolch on it before and while it looked fantastic, I think they were making the board feel a little plastic-y.
Thanks for executing a great group buy, Ivan!
Oh... I think because there is no such thing as [ ] in the font... I probably meant to flip it for that and mixed it up. I guess only the hardest hardcore fans would even notice such a thing.
I just got my set, looks AWESOME, although I have some miscoloring on some keys, does any1 else also have this problem?Pics?
The caps arrived in Germany today.
Thanks Ivan for the buy and jamster for letting me take over one blank set. :thumb:
If someone ever wanted to part ways with an Aurebesh set. Keep me in mind ;D
If someone ever wanted to part ways with an Aurebesh set. Keep me in mind ;D
There's another round for this one going on now, which includes Aurebesh.
Oh I know but the wait time would be immense. I will be in the Dark Wave GB for sure regardless.
Oh... I think because there is no such thing as [ ] in the font... I probably meant to flip it for that and mixed it up. I guess only the hardest hardcore fans would even notice such a thing.Because Star Wars Fans aren't known for being hardcore. ;) I almost wish I didn't know this. Will this be fixed on the second round? I may be in for a second set if so.
Has anyone gotten their short shift? imsto was quick to reply to my first email saying "yes may send it with onkybthe shipping cost."
But thats all they said, no instructions, no PP invoice... I replied to that email, which was a different chinese mail address (ie. 1234@qq.com), as well as forwarded it to sales@imsto.cn telling them to invoice me or give an email to pay shipping cost.
Been over a week
Me too.Has anyone gotten their short shift? imsto was quick to reply to my first email saying "yes may send it with onkybthe shipping cost."
But thats all they said, no instructions, no PP invoice... I replied to that email, which was a different chinese mail address (ie. 1234@qq.com), as well as forwarded it to sales@imsto.cn telling them to invoice me or give an email to pay shipping cost.
Been over a week
gnarly, this is the exact same interaction i had with IMSTO. he was extremely fast in responding via his qq email; i fwded my request to sales@imsto.cn (per his direction) and am currently awaiting an invoice too. this just happened over the course of back-to-back emails in a span of 20 minutes last night
my request was a reproduction of the 4 6 9 R F6 Home and End keys whose legends were noticeably lighter than the rest. the set is beautiful otherwise
Just got a PM from imsto. Says it will take about a month to sort this out.I got a similar pm.
my caps finally passed customs:
Poker2
MX red switches
Cherry profile thick PBT Pitch BLACK edition
Soft O-rings (40A) red
Depth Black Click ClackShow Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/c/c5/900x900px-LL-c5b1152d_DSC00004.jpeg)Show Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/8/8d/900x900px-LL-8d364c04_DSC00005.jpeg)
my caps finally passed customs:
Poker2
MX red switches
Cherry profile thick PBT Pitch BLACK edition
Soft O-rings (40A) red
Depth Black Click ClackShow Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/c/c5/900x900px-LL-c5b1152d_DSC00004.jpeg)Show Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/8/8d/900x900px-LL-8d364c04_DSC00005.jpeg)
I've also received a blank set (from another GH-er), and have most of it figured out. Except the arrow keys. I think the Up arrow uses D profile (QWERTY row), and the other 3 B (ZXCVB row) (source http://deskthority.net/wiki/Keyboard_profile#Numbering), is this correct?
The 7u spacebar won't fit without having to modify the stems either. I've measured my OG Desko spacebar to compare: 117.3 vs 118mm. This is quite a big difference, and the stabilizers are turned inwards under heavy stress after just pressing it down firmly. I've tried to cut out the sides of the stabilizer mounts, to no avail.
Unfortunately, I don't have any epoxy either..
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The 7u spacebar won't fit without having to modify the stems either. I've measured my OG Desko spacebar to compare: 117.3 vs 118mm. This is quite a big difference, and the stabilizers are turned inwards under heavy stress after just pressing it down firmly. I've tried to cut out the sides of the stabilizer mounts, to no avail.
Unfortunately, I don't have any epoxy either..
(http://i.imgur.com/VJOWI2jl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/VJOWI2j)
Yeah. Checked and my 7u spacebars dont work. They squeeze the cherry stabs together so hard that pressing down on the spacebar just causes it to stop half way down and stick there.The 7u spacebar won't fit without having to modify the stems either. I've measured my OG Desko spacebar to compare: 117.3 vs 118mm. This is quite a big difference, and the stabilizers are turned inwards under heavy stress after just pressing it down firmly. I've tried to cut out the sides of the stabilizer mounts, to no avail.
Unfortunately, I don't have any epoxy either..
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Has anyone else had this problem with their 7u spacebars?
Ivan, can this be rectified in the next round? I don't want to post there, but I feel like they should know if there is an issue with the 7u spacebars.
The 7u spacebar won't fit without having to modify the stems either. I've measured my OG Desko spacebar to compare: 117.3 vs 118mm. This is quite a big difference, and the stabilizers are turned inwards under heavy stress after just pressing it down firmly. I've tried to cut out the sides of the stabilizer mounts, to no avail.
Unfortunately, I don't have any epoxy either..
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Do you have any other MX sets to measure? Is 0.7mm really enough to throw it off? I suppose this is why they don't often make 7u spacebars with PBT.
Yeah. Checked and my 7u spacebars dont work. They squeeze the cherry stabs together so hard that pressing down on the spacebar just causes it to stop half way down and stick there.The 7u spacebar won't fit without having to modify the stems either. I've measured my OG Desko spacebar to compare: 117.3 vs 118mm. This is quite a big difference, and the stabilizers are turned inwards under heavy stress after just pressing it down firmly. I've tried to cut out the sides of the stabilizer mounts, to no avail.
Unfortunately, I don't have any epoxy either..
(http://i.imgur.com/VJOWI2jl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/VJOWI2j)
Has anyone else had this problem with their 7u spacebars?
this is not a problen with costar right?
this is not a problen with costar right?
Yeah. Checked and my 7u spacebars dont work. They squeeze the cherry stabs together so hard that pressing down on the spacebar just causes it to stop half way down and stick there.The 7u spacebar won't fit without having to modify the stems either. I've measured my OG Desko spacebar to compare: 117.3 vs 118mm. This is quite a big difference, and the stabilizers are turned inwards under heavy stress after just pressing it down firmly. I've tried to cut out the sides of the stabilizer mounts, to no avail.
Unfortunately, I don't have any epoxy either..
(http://i.imgur.com/VJOWI2jl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/VJOWI2j)
Has anyone else had this problem with their 7u spacebars?
Any update on the few orders that haven't been shipped yet? Just curious not concerned :)
Nom nom
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I thought it was confirmed that the spacebar works with the fc660m.Show ImageShow ImageShow ImageNom nom
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Shame the spacebar doesn't fit on a Leopold FC660M. The pegs are just slightly off. :(
I thought it was confirmed that the spacebar works with the fc660m.Show ImageShow ImageShow ImageNom nom
(http://i.imgur.com/zAT1jJml.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zAT1jJm)
(http://i.imgur.com/v4bWo9Bl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/v4bWo9B)
(http://i.imgur.com/PU9gdMtl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/PU9gdMt)
(http://i.imgur.com/SMEG25tl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/SMEG25t)
Shame the spacebar doesn't fit on a Leopold FC660M. The pegs are just slightly off. :(
What's the final word?
If you need to update your shipping destination, please send to me in PM.
Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
!1!1!Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.i spy something uʍopǝpısdnShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
!1!1!Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.i spy something uʍopǝpısdnShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Incidentally, is that a carbon fibre plate?!?
Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.What board is that? It looks awesome :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Heavy Jellybest kind of plate 8)!1!1!Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.i spy something uʍopǝpısdnShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Incidentally, is that a carbon fibre plate?!?
Don't be jealous. You have such a nice keyboard! :thumb:Heavy Jellybest kind of plate 8)!1!1!Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.i spy something uʍopǝpısdnShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Incidentally, is that a carbon fibre plate?!?
*flips over Orion*
*Breaks screen*
What board is this?!1!1!Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.i spy something uʍopǝpısdnShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Incidentally, is that a carbon fibre plate?!?
best kind of plate 8)
What board is this?!1!1!Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.i spy something uʍopǝpısdnShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Incidentally, is that a carbon fibre plate?!?
best kind of plate 8)
The wait continues. I think I'm getting the shakes guys!You're set still hasn't arrived?
Nope, unfortunately I'm one of the lucky (unlucky?) few who were near the end of the list when Ivan ran out of sets for BoB. They should be coming soon though.The wait continues. I think I'm getting the shakes guys!You're set still hasn't arrived?
any kind soul willing to spare their extra caps lock? (either stepped or the full touch is fine)
ill pay for it :( am CONUS pls sambady.
Turns out my entire spacebar is just a little shorter than my Desko bar (just measured the distance between the stems last time). After swapping stems, I've ended up with pretty wide gaps on both the left & right side of the 7u spacebar:
(http://i.imgur.com/7FqxH5Ll.jpg) (http://imgur.com/7FqxH5L)any kind soul willing to spare their extra caps lock? (either stepped or the full touch is fine)
ill pay for it :( am CONUS pls sambady.
Would you be willing to trade a non-stepped caps for a 7u spacebar ? :-[
Turns out my entire spacebar is just a little shorter than my Desko bar (just measured the distance between the stems last time). After swapping stems, I've ended up with pretty wide gaps on both the left & right side of the 7u spacebar:
(http://i.imgur.com/7FqxH5Ll.jpg) (http://imgur.com/7FqxH5L)any kind soul willing to spare their extra caps lock? (either stepped or the full touch is fine)
ill pay for it :( am CONUS pls sambady.
Would you be willing to trade a non-stepped caps for a 7u spacebar ? :-[
yes please pm me omg i love you
All the remaining outstanding orders were sent last week.
I'm interested in a pitch black set (all blanks) for a v60 build, am I too late for the current group buy?
Has anyone received their missing keys? I've emailed imsto and messaged him on here a couple of times but haven't had any response after the first oneI got mine a few days ago. He emailed me a couple of weeks earlier and asked me to purchase 4$ worth of proxy service from his website to pay for shipping. Although I got 2 short shifts and live in the UK so the price might be different for other people. I hope this helps.
Sorry to ask a question which has probably been buried somewhere in the preceding fifty pages, but can anyone confirm if this set is compatible with a Leopold FC500R?Deskthority has the answer. (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions#6.25_units_.28118mm_wide.2C_3_mounts.2C_42.5_mm_apart.29)
I've read that the Leopold may have a non-standard space bar
I'm asking as after finally getting my order, I've realised that I will probably never use by black on black. I bought a Dolch set whilst waiting for the black on black and have decided that I like the Dolch colours too much to swap them out. And any future boards that I buy will be Topre then possibly Matias. So I'm going to send this set to a friend with an FC500R, but I am completely unfamiliar with that keyboard.
Still not heard anything after another round of PM's & emails... It's been 2 months since I contacted him now...Make sure the email address is sales@imsto.cn, that worked for me.