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Title: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy LIVE May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: kema on Sat, 16 January 2021, 13:29:05



GB Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=120217.msg3160674#msg3160674)





SLKDessau.com↗  (http://slkdessau.com)

https://fkcaps.com/keycaps/slk/dessau↗  (https://fkcaps.com/keycaps/slk/dessau)



(https://imgur.com/MUYycA9.png)






Vendors and Pricing

Cannon Keys (US)↗ (https://cannonkeys.com/products/slk-dessau)
Deskhero (CA)↗ (https://www.deskhero.ca/products/slk-dessau-keycaps-groupbuy)
zFrontier (CN)↗ (https://www.zfrontier.com/app/mch/1j4qk7DqKYeo)
zFrontier (AS)↗ (https://en.zfrontier.com/products/group-buy-slk-dessau)
Yushakobo (JP)↗ (https://shop.yushakobo.jp/products/7500)
Aiglatson Studio (TH)↗ (https://aiglatsonstudio.com/products/slk-dessau)
Candykeys (EU)↗ Up soon
ProtoTypist (UK)↗ Up soon
SwitchKeys (AU)↗ Up soon


Kit                       USD              CAD              CNY              JPY              THB              EUR              GBP              AUD             
Base Kit$99$144¥749¥15,290฿3,550€112£99$160
Compact Kit$40$58¥299¥6,160฿1,450€44£40$65
Int'l & Misc$40$58299¥6,160฿1,450€44£40$65


Group Buy from May 1st, 2023 to June 1st, 2023
Delivery to vendors in December 2023






About SLK profile

SLK is a new uniform profile designed by Synth Labs, with the goal of making an aesthetically modern, low-profile option for MX-style switches.

• Round top keycaps with capsule-shaped dish cutaways and tapered base
• 1.5mm PBT plastic with dye-sub and reverse dye-sub legends
• Supports ISO enter and stepped caps lock
• Produced by FK Caps

(https://imgur.com/db7Sm7b.png)






Design and Kits

The legends feature a modern monoline typeface with a number of base glyphs modified for a more cohesive look and feel.
Rather than keeping the original monospacing, each legend has been carefully kerned to read better in this context.
Edge modifier legends are also edge aligned both for aesthetics and so the legends can still be read when partially obscured by your hands.

(https://imgur.com/XPPfjN3.png)


Choose between Light and Dark colorways.
Colors represented are approximations of physical samples (https://imgur.com/exhhRyb).
Lighting will affect final appearance.




Base Kits

(https://imgur.com/6d37YIa.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/NLFE0nN.jpg)




Compact Kits

(https://imgur.com/IGBASp4.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/uNEGApy.jpg)




International & Misc Kits

(https://imgur.com/abdHvKO.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/6FChuhl.jpg)






Renders

Renders by @its.hymn↗  (https://www.instagram.com/its.hymn/)

(https://imgur.com/O35Qq3i.png)

(https://imgur.com/pwHE0t4.png)

(https://imgur.com/P7zvcI6.png)

(https://imgur.com/qylGlwk)

(https://imgur.com/puJQMtC.png)

(https://imgur.com/MqnDhl2.png)

(https://imgur.com/2Mm3bSy.png)






Collaborations




Turbulent Labs

A collection of handmade full-grain Italian napa leather desk accessories. Available in matching light and dark colors.

(https://imgur.com/AUm3JLf.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/KUFGube.jpg)




HIBI Lens Keycap

(https://imgur.com/uLQb0cW.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/ETlY5Bk.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/hbbtYCc.jpg)




Protozoa Knob

(https://imgur.com/hD0mkiL.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/9tih2SN.jpg)





Links

Follow kema on IG @kev.nma↗  (https://www.instagram.com/kev.nma/)
Follow Synth Labs on IG @synthlabsmk↗  (https://www.instagram.com/synthlabsmk/)
Follow FK Caps on IG  @fk.caps↗  (https://www.instagram.com/fk.caps/)

Join the Synth Labs Discord: https://discord.gg/FCmrQ75rny





Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: hali on Sat, 16 January 2021, 13:34:39
why is shift accented
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Skok on Sat, 16 January 2021, 13:38:36
I don't know what I'm looking at, but you do have my attention.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Pontus on Sat, 16 January 2021, 13:38:56
Any comparison between SLK and other more common flat profiles?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: lewisflude on Sat, 16 January 2021, 13:51:05
Absolutely stunning, great work
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kema on Sat, 16 January 2021, 13:51:51
Any comparison between SLK and other more common flat profiles?

Will get a comparison with DSA and possibly KAM if I can find the model, great suggestion ✌️
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: dededecline on Sat, 16 January 2021, 14:04:45
Any comparison between SLK and other more common flat profiles?

Will get a comparison with DSA and possibly KAM if I can find the model, great suggestion ✌️

You should get in touch with the person that runs http://keycaps.info/ having that comparison would be really helpful
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: I_V_I on Sat, 16 January 2021, 14:09:17
one trademark of the bauhaus design back then was to write everything in lowercase letters. Id appreciate if everything on the keyboard were lowercase letters or at least the legends.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Anthixious on Sat, 16 January 2021, 14:37:05
Wow this sure does look flat, which isn't a bad thing, just not used to seeing this every day  :), curious from here onward though  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: MrMar on Sat, 16 January 2021, 14:53:15
Looking forward to seeing the posts of this set on desks with Hasselblads and Leicas.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kema on Sat, 16 January 2021, 15:17:08
You should get in touch with the person that runs http://keycaps.info/ having that comparison would be really helpful

Will suggest to Synth Labs, thanks!


one trademark of the bauhaus design back then was to write everything in lowercase letters. Id appreciate if everything on the keyboard were lowercase letters or at least the legends.

Not aiming to be a Bauhaus themed keyset, just nodding to its influence. The lowercase only characteristic was definitely interesting but it hasn't universally persisted like the design principles have.


Looking forward to seeing the posts of this set on desks with Hasselblads and Leicas.

Leica lenses were definitely an inspiration 😁
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kema on Sat, 16 January 2021, 15:17:54
(Double post 😅)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 16 January 2021, 18:18:15
i admit i am intrigued
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 16 January 2021, 18:21:32
I searched for a while to try and find Sinclair QL caps.  With these I can recreate my Sinclair QL from childhood.  Just show me where to buy them and take my money.  Love it.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Vegas_ on Sat, 16 January 2021, 18:32:35
very interesting profile - i'm a fan of the legends & simple colorways, definitely going to be keeping an eye on this!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: timescam on Sat, 16 January 2021, 19:35:38
homing kit plz

Sent from my ASUS_I001DC using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 16 January 2021, 19:49:17
why is shift accented

It's showing the relationship between the shift key and the shifted characters.  As you can see the Shifted characters on the number row and the punction block all are red too.  It's kinda nifty.

I like everything about what I'm seeing here.  Just dont' know how it will feel to type on.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: T.Rex on Sat, 16 January 2021, 20:11:44
You have my attention…
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: YMwoo on Sat, 16 January 2021, 20:31:24
personally, a new profile and manufacturer is always welcomed. it brings diversity to the hobby.
Also love how the font looks.

Not a fan of the current color (the red and yellow accent) but it does make it unique.
Also interested in comparison with other profile.
Lastly, please consider adding Ergo support too.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: HappyB0T on Sat, 16 January 2021, 21:35:57
Really Really Interesting - SLK looks tidy and matches font quite well. Kudos!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: hobbes72 on Sat, 16 January 2021, 23:35:13
Really digging the aesthetics of this set. I'd really like to see a profile comparison against the other uniform profiles.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: dmatx1 on Sun, 17 January 2021, 03:07:05
Base kit has incomplete physical ISO support: it has ISO Enter, it has NUBS (R4 1u), it has 1.25u Shift, but NUHS (R3 1u) is missing.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: IceHawk on Sun, 17 January 2021, 03:50:39
Looks pretty clean, I like it. Woukd you add a Norde Kit?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: ShiroMoria on Sun, 17 January 2021, 04:01:47
It really is looking like something from a Braun catalog from the early 2000's, really good job ont he execution :) Also reminds me a bit of the OP-1 Synthesizer, in a good way ofc  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: geewiz on Sun, 17 January 2021, 06:43:12
Very reminiscent of old Siemens keyboards with their distinctive circular keycap tops. Love it!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: ycanales on Sun, 17 January 2021, 07:48:59
Beautiful, especially the white for me. I’d love it more with all lowercase. I’m digging the shift accent color too 👍👍
Great work!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Coreda on Sun, 17 January 2021, 08:10:50
The light set is virtually ideal. Love the particular shade of light grey modifiers and red shift accents paired with the alternate legends.

Only thing I could see niggling me is the backslash key not being grey, to be more symmetrical (especially on 60-75% boards), though I recognize it's not actually a modifier key.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: GEIST on Sun, 17 January 2021, 12:19:52
Thats the most beautiful keyset I've seen in a while. The shape looks amazing and you clearly put a lot of effort in the outstanding legends. A homing kit could be nice.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: mxrixs on Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:07:56
Interesting profile!I do think that slightly less round tops would look better
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: EightDiagram on Sun, 17 January 2021, 20:09:57
Gorgeous.

Please provide some typing impressions when possible.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Sun, 17 January 2021, 20:19:20
Why this lowkey litty
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kema on Sun, 17 January 2021, 20:44:19
Hi everyone, appreciate all the nice comments! Will look into some kit changes this week once enough people have voiced what they'd like.

Here's a quick comparison with DSA and KAM profiles courtesy of Synth Labs, SLK is more low profile and has a wider dish surface. The exact model measurements are subject to change but the general shape should remain very similar ✌️

(https://imgur.com/1YZgzhI.png)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: dibstern on Sun, 17 January 2021, 20:54:54
Super pretty!! And low profile = yes yes yes yes yes, so much better for acoustics
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 18 January 2021, 08:59:45
It looks like the first comparison figure of “actual alignment”
Is suggesting that the skirt of the cap is longer than KAM or DSA.  That would be wonderful if true!

The fact that it has a larger dish is a negative to me.  I always found XDA much more difficult to type on for that reason. Guess we shall see in time. 
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Nostril on Tue, 19 January 2021, 02:14:20
For the SLK profile, I have been prototyping the latest versions of the keycaps with a resin 3D printer. Previously, I was prototyping much older versions through a print service. So far, I've only printed 1U caps myself, but I'll start messing with printing some of the larger sizes now that I have figured the printing out. As kema mentioned, the general shape is going to stay mostly similar, but I'm still experimenting with slight tweaks, and trying them out with these 3D prints to find what feels best to me.


(https://i.imgur.com/98jyFqr.jpg)
Picture of the keycaps on a RAMA M6-A

(https://i.imgur.com/X5gre8y.jpg)
The first fully successful print, as they came out from the printer with the support structure for printing still attached.

(https://i.imgur.com/zZuQSzs.jpg)
The first fully successfully printed keycaps on the RAMA M6-A (left) next to all of the failed attempts before (right), including issues with the surface finish, issues with excess material, and issues with the stems falling off the build plate.

(https://i.imgur.com/TZQiVx3.jpg)
A comparison with DSA on the top left and top middle keys for height comparison.


I like how the profile feels a lot right now a lot, but I am thinking of increasing the curvature on the dish - I think it feels a bit flatter than I'd like. My proposed changes will increase the height of the keycap very slightly, but will bring the dish curvature pretty much in line with DSA's dish curvature. I'll be making these changes and testing them over next weekend.


(https://i.imgur.com/a3UNjy4.png)
This diagram (it's a bit different from the last one that kema showed) shows what the profile will look like after the proposed changes:


In terms of testing with a full keyset on a keyboard, I have not done that with the latest iteration. I have tested it before with a much older version of the SLK design, ordered through a print service. However, since I'm transitioning to doing the prototype printing on my own, I haven't gotten around to doing this yet on the latest version. However, I plan to do this, and daily drive a keyboard with a full SLK set to make sure I like it once the tweaks all feel good on the individual keys.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Nostril on Tue, 19 January 2021, 02:19:53
It looks like the first comparison figure of “actual alignment”
Is suggesting that the skirt of the cap is longer than KAM or DSA.

Yep, that's correct. Should help with keyboards with low walls, and so that you can't see the switch as much when viewed at an angle.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Buburoo on Tue, 19 January 2021, 03:32:11
I'm interested. Unsure whether I would actually use them as a preferred profile for day to day typing but definitely something new that has my attention. The price will play a big factor for me on this one, however.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Tue, 19 January 2021, 05:00:44
I really dig the light colored theme. I would love a GMK set just like that. Getting serious Dieter vibes from it.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: candravamsa on Tue, 19 January 2021, 05:33:03
I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Surefoot on Tue, 19 January 2021, 06:00:43
It looks really interesting, even though I was in at the "thick PBT" part. Might be cool to involve Biiip for a "Wraith" theme using this set....
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kapowaz on Tue, 19 January 2021, 14:26:57
These look very interesting indeed. Will be watching this closely! I can imagine this looking great inside a black Boop 65:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/products/8b9cc7c9808a81fc8db0eaf67a4d79d7_f813f61c-edca-4f15-8cf7-bd1c513be4a1_1080x.jpg?v=1607935027)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: bball2 on Tue, 19 January 2021, 14:43:20
I don't know how much I would like typing on those keycaps - but man do they look nice!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: 1391401 on Tue, 19 January 2021, 15:19:37
I love the look, curious what it is like to type on. 
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: phxrbn on Tue, 19 January 2021, 15:49:30
Like it. Looks really interesting, but some feedback-


Overall solid. I'll be interested as this develops.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: pixls on Tue, 19 January 2021, 16:29:04
Icon mods would be an instant buy for me. No question. For a future set in this profile I'd love to see a nice medium grey with black or white legends.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: stoffelduss on Tue, 19 January 2021, 17:48:20
Like it. Looks really interesting, but some feedback-

  • Not a fan of the edge aligned legends- it looks weird on the bottom row with all other legends being centered. It works fine for all other rows, though.
  • Not a fan of the shifted accents, although it makes perfect sense- just don't like having mono colorways with a colored accent. Maybe a gray tone for both sets- since they'll be less of a pop vs the bow/wob

Overall solid. I'll be interested as this develops.
I wanted to say the same things. Looks interesting, but I don't like the coloured symbols very much, and I definitely don't like the non-centered legends. I might or might not buy with the coloured shifted symbols but I will definitely not buy with edge-aligned legends.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: blaqbern on Tue, 19 January 2021, 18:32:18
I love the look, curious what it is like to type on.
I don't know how much I would like typing on those keycaps - but man do they look nice!

My thoughts exactly! I’m definitely intrigued. Will be watching! GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: shortdog6 on Tue, 19 January 2021, 19:55:00
Love how it looks! There could be some cool novelties with this profile.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: asmashedpumpkin on Wed, 20 January 2021, 02:04:47
This profile looks good, except for the ISO enter. That’s the only key that looks weird to me.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: GEIST on Wed, 20 January 2021, 07:38:21
A few more 1U keys in the Add-on Kits would be nice, to ensure ortho support. For example backspace and delete.

EDIT: Just noticed they're already in the base kit
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: dimamantra on Wed, 20 January 2021, 16:14:29
Formed filled out and added my email for more information later.

I LOVE the look of this set.

Having trouble deciding between the light and dark though.

Will have to make a hard choice.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kema on Wed, 20 January 2021, 20:01:22
This profile looks good, except for the ISO enter. That’s the only key that looks weird to me.

Here's some better lighting to show off the dish on the ISO enter that didn't come across in the other renders, it keeps the same capsule shape as the rest of the key tops!

(https://imgur.com/mfJ4KrM.png)


Formed filled out and added my email for more information later.

I LOVE the look of this set.

Having trouble deciding between the light and dark though.

Will have to make a hard choice.

Thanks! I also really like both; from the IC form it seems like Dark is slightly more popular, but it's close ✌️
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Pach on Wed, 20 January 2021, 20:17:59
I wouldn't use this personally but it looks really clean, nice work
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: dimamantra on Wed, 20 January 2021, 23:27:18
Quote from: kema
Thanks! I also really like both; from the IC form it seems like Dark is slightly more popular, but it's close ✌️

Gotta say, I think the white looks better now that I'm looking again.

Reminds me a lot of this synth. https://teenage.engineering/products/op-1

I don't typically join keyset group buys, most just never appeal to me. This is really only the second time I've gotten this excited about a keyset!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: asmashedpumpkin on Thu, 21 January 2021, 01:32:43
Thank you kema.  The ISO enter keycap looks much better with that capsulated dish.  It looks like i’ll be in it to win it with this set. 
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 21 January 2021, 08:25:29
This profile looks good, except for the ISO enter. That’s the only key that looks weird to me.

Here's some better lighting to show off the dish on the ISO enter that didn't come across in the other renders, it keeps the same capsule shape as the rest of the key tops!

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/mfJ4KrM.png)



Formed filled out and added my email for more information later.

I LOVE the look of this set.

Having trouble deciding between the light and dark though.

Will have to make a hard choice.

Thanks! I also really like both; from the IC form it seems like Dark is slightly more popular, but it's close ✌️

That's ISO PORN right there.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kema on Thu, 21 January 2021, 19:28:23
Made these forum signatures if you're excited about SLK Dessau and want to share it with others 😄


Light forum signature
Code: [Select]
[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110702.0][img width=449 height=120]https://imgur.com/8EUKKh6.png[/img][/url]
Dark forum signature
Code: [Select]
[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110702.0][img width=449 height=120]https://imgur.com/P757CiH.png[/img][/url]
(For those that don't know, you paste the code into the Signature section of your forum profile settings)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: dimamantra on Thu, 21 January 2021, 22:13:41
Made these forum signatures if you're excited about SLK Dessau and want to share it with others 😄


Light forum signature
Code: [Select]
[img width=449 height=120]https://imgur.com/8EUKKh6.png[/img]
Dark forum signature
Code: [Select]
[img width=449 height=120]https://imgur.com/P757CiH.png[/img]
(For those that don't know, you paste the code into the Signature section of your forum profile settings)

Can do!

Although I think you should probably have something like:

Code: [Select]
[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110702.0][img]https://i.imgur.com/IeqSaEp.png[/img][/url]

Gotta drive traffic to this thread.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kema on Fri, 22 January 2021, 00:01:02
Although I think you should probably have something like:

Code: [Select]
[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110702.0][img]https://i.imgur.com/IeqSaEp.png[/img][/url]

Gotta drive traffic to this thread.

I derped, totally slipped my mind! Will add the url to the code, thank you 😁
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Rök on Fri, 22 January 2021, 23:12:00
You know when you've been looking for the "perfect pr0n movie" for a long time? Well... you don't know what it looks like, but when you'll see it, you'll recognize it.
And here it is.
THAT is the kind of gem I'm talking about.
Original, modern, clean.
Thanks for planning this design, it's amazing, I love it and I'm absolutely in. Good luck!!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: rottencat on Sat, 23 January 2021, 06:11:30
Interested.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Ry0t@ on Sat, 23 January 2021, 09:12:12
This is great! This executes the Dieter Rams aesthetic really well and has the potential to be an instant classic! Hope you will extend kitting. Especially a international kit would be great!

Edit: I like the colour accents very much, btw. And prefer the light kit slightly over the dark.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 23 January 2021, 10:35:02
You know when you've been looking for the "perfect pr0n movie" for a long time? Well... you don't know what it looks like, but when you'll see it, you'll recognize it.
And here it is.
THAT is the kind of gem I'm talking about.
Original, modern, clean.
Thanks for planning this design, it's amazing, I love it and I'm absolutely in. Good luck!!


I get it, yes.  But just to counter argue... I don't think there are many "perfect porn movies" that are "clean."   :p

There is something about this hobby that can easily lead you to blowing your load on crappy stuff that you really don't even like.  I guess it's FOMO.  Take heed, anyone new or old to the hobby.  Did you fall in love with it the second you saw it?  Did you talk yourself into over a few weeks b/c it kept showing up on your feeds?  We have so many options today.  Only buy the perfect stuff.  The stuff that makes you tingle down there.  This one does it for me too.  But then again, I would have to type on it to see if it was truly a good profile.  Even if not ideal for typing, it's beautiful.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: TJScalzo on Sun, 24 January 2021, 17:25:05
I love to see new profiles and manufacturers! It’ll definitely be interesting to see how the first round of this goes and if we’ll get more keysets in this profile.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: BoofyMoon on Sun, 24 January 2021, 20:05:28
I'd love to see a 40s or ergo add on kit for this one!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: radam on Mon, 25 January 2021, 07:29:26
1u cmd would be appreciated
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Leo Yoco on Mon, 25 January 2021, 19:37:13
interesting keycaps ,want to click
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 26 January 2021, 06:07:40
Something this new and important deserves to be carefully kitted and worked out, like all the best big sets.  Please don't rush this.  Maybe RAMA would make a new profile for you on this as well.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Pyk_ on Wed, 27 January 2021, 04:05:54
Really nice! I would vote for a second 2u spacebar, though since its uniform using a 2u shift key would be ok.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: meniscus- on Wed, 27 January 2021, 04:13:27
LETS GO
We don't need an IC, this is a sure hit.
LETS GO
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: meniscus- on Wed, 27 January 2021, 20:39:57
Did you fall in love with it the second you saw it? Only buy the perfect stuff.  The stuff that makes you tingle down there.

yes
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: ryukomatoi on Wed, 27 January 2021, 21:31:56
Interested. Would love to see a sample of the reverse-dyed PBT SLK to see how dark it really turns out.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: dimamantra on Wed, 27 January 2021, 21:32:22
Did you fall in love with it the second you saw it? Only buy the perfect stuff.  The stuff that makes you tingle down there.

yes

Also yes.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: BraveOtter on Fri, 29 January 2021, 11:46:42
I would like you to have an ISO Spanish kit. They are really nice keycaps.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Rayndalf on Fri, 29 January 2021, 13:21:02
Like Devlin Teletype only better coverage and availability

I'm excited
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kema on Fri, 29 January 2021, 16:44:22
Currently working through kit changes after a super busy past week, have fixed and added a few things based on feedback 🙏

Question for Ergo users:
would you prefer a kit with fixed legends that is generally useable (e.g. KAM Little Pilot's ergo kit (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1679/2319/products/KAM-Little-Pilot_ergo_3f61dd63-02b7-4c19-908b-742adbcc1d8b_1024x1024.png?v=1575648853")) or blank keycaps?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: YMwoo on Fri, 29 January 2021, 22:50:59
Currently working through kit changes after a super busy past week, have fixed and added a few things based on feedback 🙏

Question for Ergo users:
would you prefer a kit with fixed legends that is generally useable (e.g. KAM Little Pilot's ergo kit (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1679/2319/products/KAM-Little-Pilot_ergo_3f61dd63-02b7-4c19-908b-742adbcc1d8b_1024x1024.png?v=1575648853")) or blank keycaps?

Thanks for preparing ergo kit!
I personally prefer legends, either the generic one or something random instead of blanks.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 30 January 2021, 04:12:57
Did you fall in love with it the second you saw it? Only buy the perfect stuff.  The stuff that makes you tingle down there.

yes

Also yes.

Very much yes.  All kits must be created so that this can become a global giant.  Love all of it.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: radam on Sat, 30 January 2021, 08:55:40
Currently working through kit changes after a super busy past week, have fixed and added a few things based on feedback 🙏

Question for Ergo users:
would you prefer a kit with fixed legends that is generally useable (e.g. KAM Little Pilot's ergo kit (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1679/2319/products/KAM-Little-Pilot_ergo_3f61dd63-02b7-4c19-908b-742adbcc1d8b_1024x1024.png?v=1575648853")) or blank keycaps?

It depends. I usually prefer blanks (or something non-specific like oblivion), because I don't like my keys to improperly labeled. That is more important for sculpted profiles, though. I much prefer what KAM_superuser's kit is like. There are certain keys that are very difficult to find in 1.5u variants.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: BoofyMoon on Sat, 30 January 2021, 09:22:09
Currently working through kit changes after a super busy past week, have fixed and added a few things based on feedback 🙏

Question for Ergo users:
would you prefer a kit with fixed legends that is generally useable (e.g. KAM Little Pilot's ergo kit (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1679/2319/products/KAM-Little-Pilot_ergo_3f61dd63-02b7-4c19-908b-742adbcc1d8b_1024x1024.png?v=1575648853")) or blank keycaps?

Fixed legends would be preferable, but I'd be happy with anything
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: teleute on Mon, 01 February 2021, 00:49:50
This is like a better TeleType Z-Series but with everything I want in contemporary keycaps. PBT. Low profile. Reverse dye-sub. Way better. While I probably won't be jumping in for the inevitable GB, I'm definitely going to be looking at future SLK sets. A lot of designs would really lend themselves to this profile.

EDIT: Nope, couldn't resist. I'd totally switch from my XDA Canvas to this set. The more I look the better it gets.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kema on Tue, 02 February 2021, 22:17:44
Quick update on progress:


Kit additions
Yellow Esc accent added (Light Base)
Second 2u spacebar added
HUNT homing keys added
10x1u, 12x1.5u, 4x2u blanks added (Ergo)


Small fixes
Basic ISO in base kit fixed
£ glyph simplified

As for Int'l layout support, it's unlikely to happen because only 3% of the form responses requested it, and it does require a significant amount of additional keys and time spent reworking part of the design since some keys have 3 legends. If there's dramatically more demand I'm obviously happy to work on it, but otherwise I hope you all can understand 😢


SLK keycap samples
Still in development but refinements to the models are being done to improve the typing experience! I can say that the density/weight is nice and the bottom out sound is definitely satisfying, we'll share more details when the models are finalized and production samples made 🙏

Renders will be updated after changes to keycap models are dialed in
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: anorak on Wed, 03 February 2021, 04:54:41
This kit needs a NORDE kit because Dessau is in Germany
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: sonny3006 on Wed, 10 February 2021, 20:01:21
This kit needs a NORDE kit because Dessau is in Germany

I second that :D
Was definitely expecting a NORDE kit bc of the name.
Does Candykeys know about this set? Or mykeyboard.eu? Anything to make a NORDE kit happen...
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kema on Wed, 10 February 2021, 20:53:28
Sharing some renders done by @carsons.keyboards (https://www.instagram.com/carsons.keyboards/) on a keyboard he's working on, these are using updated SLK models with the adjusted dish.

(https://imgur.com/GtVMPJH.png)

(https://imgur.com/DzQeeNO.png)

(https://imgur.com/o3UXJuP.png)

(https://imgur.com/nIhVEcC.png)

(https://imgur.com/rgC1vU2.png)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kema on Wed, 10 February 2021, 22:55:04
I second that :D
Was definitely expecting a NORDE kit bc of the name.
Does Candykeys know about this set? Or mykeyboard.eu? Anything to make a NORDE kit happen...

We haven't started reaching out to vendors yet but will soon. Tell all your NorDe friends to fill out the IC form! Currently only about 3.9% of the nearly 400 responses have requested it which is not a lot 😢
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Rayndalf on Thu, 11 February 2021, 01:27:05
Deep dish/ scooped homing of some sort would be killer. The homing bars look a little strange but nothing terrible (like ePBT scoop+bar bleh)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 11 February 2021, 04:09:31
That keyboard is really good looking.  Any link to it?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: BoofyMoon on Thu, 11 February 2021, 07:05:21
Love the look of this set so much. So excited to have it on my desk some day
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Senbeii on Thu, 11 February 2021, 07:30:22
Not a fan of flat profiles. But I am a fan on how this looks. Maybe this will be the set to get me to keep a flat profile  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kema on Thu, 11 February 2021, 22:34:57
That keyboard is really good looking.  Any link to it?

All I have is the designer's IG (https://www.instagram.com/carsons.keyboards/) and Discord (http://discord.gg/CeD78G8GH6), assuming an IC will happen at some point!





And for everyone interested, here's the updated profile comparison. The new dish is more cuppy and feels like mini arcade buttons! Also typing accuracy is hugely improved ✌️

[New]
(https://imgur.com/db7Sm7b.png)

[Old]
(https://imgur.com/1YZgzhI.png.png)

Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Nostril on Thu, 11 February 2021, 22:49:35
And for everyone interested, here's the updated profile comparison. The new dish is more cuppy and feels like mini arcade buttons! Also typing accuracy is hugely improved ✌️

To elaborate on the changes, the dish is adjusted to be more scooped, ever so slightly smaller, and the lip around the dish has been refined.

The internals have also been updated to have a bit more uniform thickness while maintaining a good clearance from the switch. Regarding the thickness, the design currently maintains a minimum of 1.5mm thickness throughout, with exception of the thinnest parts of the stem, and the extended skirt that dips slightly lower than most other profiles (this part of the skirt is only 1.0mm thick for switch clearance purposes).

These 3D prints are the version we ultimately settled with:
(https://i.imgur.com/vgmr94f.jpg)

Here's some comparisons to DSA:
(https://i.imgur.com/osdwfZa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nTbqNQV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xkbW5GL.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: teleute on Fri, 12 February 2021, 02:34:34
Those dishes look comfy. I gave XDA a shot and was not pleased with its might-as-well-not-be-there scoop. Glad this leans more towards DSA's approach. Also, as a hitbox user, I like the idea of the keys feeling like mini arcade buttons.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: KevenKeys on Fri, 12 February 2021, 12:17:22
ITs gunna be hard to pry me away from my growing GMK collection but I cant help being curious about this set. I love how it looks! Reminds me of the buttons on the Teenage Engineering OP1 Synthesizer! Has a little similarity to RAMA's new Kate caps but those are more oval. I think I dig this design better! Nice work!!! I will be watching this!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 12 February 2021, 22:13:59
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Why are the edges not square?  It looks like the corners taper.  Is this some 3d printing issue?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Nostril on Fri, 12 February 2021, 23:16:46
Why are the edges not square?  It looks like the corners taper.  Is this some 3d printing issue?

Yeah, it's not part of the design - just a 3D printing issue. Some warping existed at the time of printing, but I think a greater amount of it happened over the course of a few days after printing. It's more obvious with some of the longer keys I printed, especially the spacebars. I think this is due to me not fully curing the resin after printing, and maybe being cured less consistently, naturally over time - but not super sure to be honest. Probably would have been a good idea to take pictures after I actually printed them if I knew this.

I'm not really concerned here though, since the 3D printing is really just to test the design, and won't be related to the final production process in any way. Of the ones I printed, I was able to test the design on plenty that didn't have really any noticibly warpage (I printed a full 60% set that was sent to Kema), and I'm planning on having a metal prototype made and tested to be safe.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: stoffelduss on Sat, 13 February 2021, 05:01:40
will you sell blanks?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: Nostril on Mon, 15 February 2021, 20:12:57
will you sell blanks?

For blanks that are color matched to Dessau, they will not be sold individually. However, there will be an assortment of blanks in different sizes in the 40%/Ortho/Ergo kit.

If you meant blanks that are unrelated to Dessau - we would like to have these eventually, but no concrete plans yet.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: kema on Wed, 17 February 2021, 23:37:11
Here's a rendered comparison showing the changes made in the new version of the SLK keycaps. Slightly taller, slightly smaller (and cuppier) dish,
and much more comfy to type on.

(https://imgur.com/6HQfmcP.png)



And updated kit renders

Base kit

(https://imgur.com/08SwVby.png)
(https://imgur.com/d62y55T.png)

Yellow esc added to Light Base Kit
Homing '5' added (whoops)
Basic ISO support fixed


Compact Kit

(https://imgur.com/KAF01mw.png)
(https://imgur.com/tyH7EM8.png)

10x1u, 12x1.5u, 4x2u blanks added (Ergo)
Second 2u spacebar added


Misc Kit

(https://imgur.com/EUZHSVa.png)
(https://imgur.com/0rThcAV.png)

'U' 'H' and 'N' 'T' homing keys added
£ glyph simplified
2x1u Command keys added

Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: GEIST on Fri, 19 February 2021, 20:35:02
Really every aspect of this keycap seems to be sooo well thought of. I already skipped a few groupbuys, since all I want now is this set. Sorry if this was answered somewhere else already but is there a rough estimate? I guess currently FK is handling the MBK groupbuy, but could it be produced after this?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: YMwoo on Sat, 20 February 2021, 00:03:23
great kit imo!
still wishing the ergo will have legends since it's an uniform profile but the kits are great right now.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: fakedSkill on Sat, 20 February 2021, 00:37:30
Kits look amazing! Cant wait!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: Potatomonkey on Sat, 20 February 2021, 01:58:35
I'm very on board with this, i also have a boop on the way that would be perfect for this. Any possibility of dished homing keys?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: Nostril on Sun, 21 February 2021, 15:45:08
I'm very on board with this, i also have a boop on the way that would be perfect for this. Any possibility of dished homing keys?

We don't really have plans for deep dish homing keys currently, but we will check it out if there is more demand for it expressed in the interest form.

It's also a bit tricky - as the design is currently, to make the deep dish feel more scooped, for those keys, we would have to either:
Or some combination of these. This is due to SLK being very low-profile in the first place, so there isn't as much extra material/space to work with. I believe some other profiles do these tradeoffs for deep dish homing, but I personally would rather maintain more aesthetic uniformity.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 23 February 2021, 07:04:29
I would love to see an offset caps lock added to the roster
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: Hi !! on Tue, 23 February 2021, 07:46:36
This is interesting. Very keen to try one later on.
Bigger dish and shorter height compared to DSA? I like it. Always looking forward to something different within this hobby.  :)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: kema on Tue, 23 February 2021, 10:56:00
Really every aspect of this keycap seems to be sooo well thought of. I already skipped a few groupbuys, since all I want now is this set. Sorry if this was answered somewhere else already but is there a rough estimate? I guess currently FK is handling the MBK groupbuy, but could it be produced after this?

Thanks! We're getting estimates now that CNY is over, the goal is to produce this right after MBK! ✌️



great kit imo!
still wishing the ergo will have legends since it's an uniform profile but the kits are great right now.

I'll look into this some more, but from what I understand, every ergo layout user has their own custom setup so it'll be difficult to account for all of them 😅
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: Nuap on Tue, 23 February 2021, 21:10:49
I'll look into this some more, but from what I understand, every ergo layout user has their own custom setup so it'll be difficult to account for all of them 😅

The good thing about flat profile is that you don't need to remake a 1u mod in different rows (i.e. ortho cherry profile child kits often have 3x 1u enter keys - you'd only need one). So the total keys in an ortho kit is much lower - one enter, one esc, one tab, one delete, one backspace, a 2u spacebar, ctrl/alt/win etc. all as 1u
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: kema on Tue, 23 February 2021, 23:03:10
The good thing about flat profile is that you don't need to remake a 1u mod in different rows (i.e. ortho cherry profile child kits often have 3x 1u enter keys - you'd only need one). So the total keys in an ortho kit is much lower - one enter, one esc, one tab, one delete, one backspace, a 2u spacebar, ctrl/alt/win etc. all as 1u

Totally! Working on this rn 🙏


Ergo and NorDe friends please keep an eye on this thread, will present a legended ergo keys option and a NorDe option sometime this week and would like your feedback.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: sonny3006 on Wed, 24 February 2021, 02:59:07
Ergo and NorDe friends please keep an eye on this thread, will present a legended ergo keys option and a NorDe option sometime this week and would like your feedback.

OMG I love you <3
I was actually preparing and make a case for a NorDe kit again ^^

One other thing: I'm using a Vortex Race 3 which has these unusual 1.5u ESC and DEL keys. No doubt I'd be more than happy if there were a kit covering this but I guess it's even more niche than NorDe. So to cover those keys, will the ergo kit be the one with spare 1.5u keys? Or any other way how I could cover them?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: kema on Fri, 26 February 2021, 01:12:47
Hello all, here are the proposed changes. NorDe support (without tertiary legends) added into what was originally the Misc Kit. And legended ergo keys replacing the blanks in the Compact Kits, with some 1u and 1.5u keys that can already be found in the Base Kits.

Let me know your thoughts 🙏


Compact Kits

(https://imgur.com/yKFpVfc.png)

(https://imgur.com/GU59rlU.png)


International & Misc Kits

(https://imgur.com/J6xgrWI.png)

(https://imgur.com/rXvBqtX.png)




One other thing: I'm using a Vortex Race 3 which has these unusual 1.5u ESC and DEL keys. No doubt I'd be more than happy if there were a kit covering this but I guess it's even more niche than NorDe. So to cover those keys, will the ergo kit be the one with spare 1.5u keys? Or any other way how I could cover them?

Those keys will be covered by the Compact Kits above ✌️
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 26 February 2021, 03:40:13
The progress is superb.  The highlights of red in the base kits on the mods is a great addition and the additional kits is very welcome.  Keep going.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: YMwoo on Fri, 26 February 2021, 05:55:45
Hello all, here are the proposed changes. NorDe support (without tertiary legends) added into what was originally the Misc Kit. And legended ergo keys replacing the blanks in the Compact Kits, with some 1u and 1.5u keys that can already be found in the Base Kits.

Let me know your thoughts 🙏


Compact Kits

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/n63tF4N.png)


Show Image
(https://imgur.com/t7rjJD1.png)



International & Misc Kits

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/5RCife1.png)


Show Image
(https://imgur.com/8MFhqx9.png)





One other thing: I'm using a Vortex Race 3 which has these unusual 1.5u ESC and DEL keys. No doubt I'd be more than happy if there were a kit covering this but I guess it's even more niche than NorDe. So to cover those keys, will the ergo kit be the one with spare 1.5u keys? Or any other way how I could cover them?

Those keys will be covered by the Compact Kits above ✌️

Personally, I think these changes are perfect! Thanks for considering it.
Ofc I can't say for others, but I really like these. All I need now is more color options in the future  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: sonny3006 on Fri, 26 February 2021, 07:42:54
@Kema great work. Thanks so much!
May I ask from which layout you got the position of the "@" legend? After looking at many international layouts I now see what a cluster**** international layouts are. For Mac ISO-DE "@" would be secondary legend on the "L" key. It would ruin the clean alphas tho and I'm more than happy to have the num row with correct secondary legends, the umlauts and what ever the keys around the "Enter" and "r Shift" are called. Also very nice to have those 1.5u ESC and DEL keys!
I'm very happy and really look forward for the GB to start.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: kema on Fri, 26 February 2021, 23:48:39
@Kema great work. Thanks so much!
May I ask from which layout you got the position of the "@" legend? After looking at many international layouts I now see what a cluster**** international layouts are. For Mac ISO-DE "@" would be secondary legend on the "L" key. It would ruin the clean alphas tho and I'm more than happy to have the num row with correct secondary legends, the umlauts and what ever the keys around the "Enter" and "r Shift" are called. Also very nice to have those 1.5u ESC and DEL keys!
I'm very happy and really look forward for the GB to start.

The "@/'" key is for UK ISO if that's what you're asking. And exactly! decided to not include the secondary legends on the letter keys for cleanliness ✨
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: Nostril on Sat, 27 February 2021, 01:56:53
Here's some renders of SLK Dessau on the HAUS by Hand Engineering.

Check out on their Instagram (http://www.instagram.com/handengineering) or Discord (http://discord.gg/chkeJqbrP8) for more on the board!

(https://i.imgur.com/UECTMPF.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/eiYYUGd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/b1c6IdT.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: Rayndalf on Sat, 27 February 2021, 04:43:09
If dished homing isn't possible I think it would look better with homing dots instead of bars (since it's round and all). The bars stand out and look more modern/ less retro.

It's not a deal breaker though.

I'm not sure how I feel about the having ergo legends. If nothing else maybe swap the 2u vertical tab for a blank key to use as a concave space bar (I have no idea how people normally set up ergodoxs, I use a kinesis advantage).
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: kema on Sat, 27 February 2021, 13:48:30
If dished homing isn't possible I think it would look better with homing dots instead of bars (since it's round and all). The bars stand out and look more modern/ less retro.

It's not a deal breaker though.

I'm not sure how I feel about the having ergo legends. If nothing else maybe swap the 2u vertical tab for a blank key to use as a concave space bar (I have no idea how people normally set up ergodoxs, I use a kinesis advantage).

Both me and Nostril prefer the homing bars here, but the dots is something he could potentially look into in the future. 🙏

And the spacebar thing is something I’d like to understand more, from a simplicity perspective, all spacebars should be kept alpha colored and convex, but do ergo users prefer to use concave ones? If any ergo users see this I’d love to hear your thoughts ✌️
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: Rayndalf on Sat, 27 February 2021, 14:01:20
If dished homing isn't possible I think it would look better with homing dots instead of bars (since it's round and all). The bars stand out and look more modern/ less retro.

It's not a deal breaker though.

I'm not sure how I feel about the having ergo legends. If nothing else maybe swap the 2u vertical tab for a blank key to use as a concave space bar (I have no idea how people normally set up ergodoxs, I use a kinesis advantage).

Both me and Nostril prefer the homing bars here, but the dots is something he could potentially look into in the future. 🙏

And the spacebar thing is something I’d like to understand more, from a simplicity perspective, all spacebars should be kept alpha colored and convex, but do ergo users prefer to use concave ones? If any ergo users see this I’d love to hear your thoughts ✌️
Ergo(dox) users usually make one of the 4 vertical 2u thumb keys a spacebar. It looks weird if one is concave and the rest are convex and labeled.

Apparently there was a big survey for ergodox and ortho legend preference, a blank vertical 2u key is very popular
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102205.msg2806656
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: kema on Sat, 27 February 2021, 14:32:04
Apparently there was a big survey for ergodox and ortho legend preference, a blank vertical 2u key is very popular
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102205.msg2806656

Thanks for sharing this, will look into swapping 2u vertical Tab out for a blank mod-colored concave spacebar. Unfortunately the survey doesn't include findings on concave vs convex other than "There were additional comments that spacebars should be convex rather than concave" 🤔
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: Rayndalf on Sat, 27 February 2021, 14:54:06
Apparently there was a big survey for ergodox and ortho legend preference, a blank vertical 2u key is very popular
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102205.msg2806656

Thanks for sharing this, will look into swapping 2u vertical Tab out for a blank mod-colored concave spacebar. Unfortunately the survey doesn't include findings on concave vs convex other than "There were additional comments that spacebars should be convex rather than concave" 🤔
It really doesn't help that when it comes to ergo stuff people use what they can get not the other way around.
I think that including 2 convex 2u spacebars is great for compatibility with boardwalk layouts, but I can see why 2 convex + 1 concave might seem excessive.
Like I said I use a Kinesis Advantage, but I will be building a boardwalk layout board at some point. I basically collect ergo kits so that when that happens I'll be ready.

I liked the ergo kit in KAT Lich, but KAT has bizarro world MOQ, so I understand if that isn't feasable. Combining 40's, ortho and ergo always seemed a little strange to me, but if the 40's kit is too large it can't be in the base kit, and ortho + ergo might struggle on it's own. I'm just glad it's available. Low profile is great for ortho/ ergo.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: radam on Sat, 27 February 2021, 20:41:04
Are all of the caps shown in the compact kits sold together? because there are 2x2u spacebars in there, it looks like. I'm was hoping they would be together, because I also need those spacebars and the 1.5u enter key.

If the individual kits aren't that expensive, it may be ok to just ask people to buy both if they want the exact coverage they need. Usually we don't even get an option.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: YMwoo on Sat, 27 February 2021, 21:37:02
Are all of the caps shown in the compact kits sold together? because there are 2x2u spacebars in there, it looks like. I'm was hoping they would be together, because I also need those spacebars and the 1.5u enter key.

If the individual kits aren't that expensive, it may be ok to just ask people to buy both if they want the exact coverage they need. Usually we don't even get an option.

Yeah, I thought there are 2x2u concave there in blanks from the upper kit?
I was looking for 1.5u enter key myself and thought that it's covered by the upper kit.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: kema on Sat, 27 February 2021, 22:06:45
Are all of the caps shown in the compact kits sold together? because there are 2x2u spacebars in there, it looks like. I'm was hoping they would be together, because I also need those spacebars and the 1.5u enter key.

If the individual kits aren't that expensive, it may be ok to just ask people to buy both if they want the exact coverage they need. Usually we don't even get an option.

Yeah, I thought there are 2x2u concave there in blanks from the upper kit?
I was looking for 1.5u enter key myself and thought that it's covered by the upper kit.

Yup they're all in the same kit ✌️
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: yukiburzm on Mon, 01 March 2021, 01:52:02
Dark is awesome. Love the sculpting on these.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: Ry0t@ on Mon, 01 March 2021, 09:05:36
Great to see NorDe included! Thank you, it looks fine!
Personally, I also like the colored sublegends very much, which is why I would love to see them on the numpad keys, as well. Also I am a fan of having a "=" key in the numpad.
I am looking so much forward to the GB (well, actually for receiving the keycaps :)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: kema on Mon, 01 March 2021, 21:20:41
3/1 Smol Updates
Extra B moved from International & Misc Kit to Compact Kit where the spacebars are
2u vertical Enter and Tab traded for blanks for a concave mod-colored spacebar option and because there's already a 2u vertical Enter in the Base Kit
2nd Esc accent option from Base Kits also to be added to Compact Kits

Also here's an Ergodox EZ render ✌️

(https://imgur.com/4UucnM2.png)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (3/1 Updated Kits)
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 02 March 2021, 02:55:09
Great render.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Proposed Kit Changes 2/25)
Post by: eczactly on Tue, 02 March 2021, 11:51:04
3/1 Smol Updates
Extra B moved from International & Misc Kit to Compact Kit where the spacebars are
2u vertical Enter and Tab traded for blanks for a concave mod-colored spacebar option and because there's already a 2u vertical Enter in the Base Kit
2nd Esc accent option from Base Kits also to be added to Compact Kits

Also here's an Ergodox EZ render ✌️

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/4UucnM2.png)


crispy
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (3/1 Updated Kits)
Post by: ZingerKeys on Tue, 02 March 2021, 12:27:25
Kit looks awesome. Unique profile, colours and font. Looking forward to grabbing it.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (3/1 Updated Kits)
Post by: RoyalOak88 on Wed, 03 March 2021, 11:58:55
Would you consider adding International South character support to the international set?
This set is really lovely and looks timeless. Would love to buy the complete kit if more characters supported  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (3/1 Updated Kits)
Post by: bd_slade on Wed, 03 March 2021, 13:46:52
This is fantastic. Keep up the great work--watching with interest!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (3/1 Updated Kits)
Post by: kema on Wed, 03 March 2021, 22:38:46
Would you consider adding International South character support to the international set?
This set is really lovely and looks timeless. Would love to buy the complete kit if more characters supported  ;D

It's very unlikely unless more people show interest in it 😫
But thank you for the comment, achieving a timeless look was definitely one of the goals 🙏
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (3/1 Updated Kits)
Post by: Doblki on Sun, 07 March 2021, 15:43:07
I can't even describe how excited I am for this set. I'm really liking the look of this profile.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (3/1 Updated Kits)
Post by: kema on Tue, 23 March 2021, 11:10:34
Hi all, we've got our vendors roster finalized and 1u samples are currently being made ✌️

Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Vendors Announced)
Post by: ravermeister on Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:38:37
Might be really niche, but could we get a second 2.75 and 3u bar in the addon set?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Vendors Announced)
Post by: phxrbn on Sun, 28 March 2021, 14:10:32
Any interest in adding a 'monochrome' legends kit? How about a media keys kit or misc misc lol- always have a hard time kitting out my full size keyboard w/ 4 keys over the numpad without repeating keys or artisans. Loving the set though. Great job.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Vendors Announced)
Post by: cloudburst on Sun, 28 March 2021, 19:04:00
This is a really interesting profile. The light kit is cleean
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: MonsterZero on Mon, 29 March 2021, 14:03:57
Those dishes look comfy. I gave XDA a shot and was not pleased with its might-as-well-not-be-there scoop. Glad this leans more towards DSA's approach. Also, as a hitbox user, I like the idea of the keys feeling like mini arcade buttons.

hitbox any good?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Vendors Announced)
Post by: kema on Wed, 31 March 2021, 01:35:59
Might be really niche, but could we get a second 2.75 and 3u bar in the addon set?

Any interest in adding a 'monochrome' legends kit? How about a media keys kit or misc misc lol- always have a hard time kitting out my full size keyboard w/ 4 keys over the numpad without repeating keys or artisans. Loving the set though. Great job.

Unfortunately kits have been locked for manufacturer quotes after a good period of time without any new requests/feedback. But if R1 goes well we're certainly looking at new colorways and key additions ✌️
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau
Post by: teleute on Thu, 01 April 2021, 12:28:07
hitbox any good?

It's good if you can get used to it and don't play a character with 360° movements. A friend of mine switched to a mixbox, which has literal arrow keys, which it now occurs to me that SLK would be perfect for.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: abucazu on Wed, 07 April 2021, 02:58:24
If you could include ISO Spanish in the International kit it would be a insta buy for me. :-[
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (3/1 Updated Kits)
Post by: sonny3006 on Wed, 07 April 2021, 07:05:35
Hi all, we've got our vendors roster finalized and 1u samples are currently being made ✌️

  • Cannon Keys (US)
  • Deskhero (CA)
  • zFrontier (AS)
  • Yushakobo (JP)
  • Candykeys (EU)
  • ProtoTypist (UK)
  • SwitchKeys (AU)

Sounds great :)

How long does it usually take for a GB to start from this point on?
Never participated in a GB before but I guess most likely end of 2021/early 2022? Just so I have some peace of mind and don't check this thread everyday to not miss anything ^^

/edit: Just saw the website and that you will announce the dates.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: PeppyToad on Wed, 07 April 2021, 07:39:18
Wow, this is making me rethink using Cherry profile on ergo boards! Fantastic work.

Just a question though – any chance for a 1u backspace?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: Sainity on Wed, 07 April 2021, 08:27:28
I'll be watching this one. I think I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Wed, 07 April 2021, 14:03:43
If you could include ISO Spanish in the International kit it would be a insta buy for me. :-[

sorry abucazu, no ISO ES for this round, very few requests for it 😢


Wow, this is making me rethink using Cherry profile on ergo boards! Fantastic work.

Just a question though – any chance for a 1u backspace?

Yup, there's a 1u Backspace in the base kit, labeled "BS" ✌
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: EightDiagram on Wed, 07 April 2021, 14:12:18
Any extras planned like mats, cables, artisans?  Pumped for this!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Wed, 07 April 2021, 18:53:59
Any extras planned like mats, cables, artisans?  Pumped for this!

Yes! All three are in the works, aiming for a more premium look/feel/material for these to match the keyset ✨
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: fakedSkill on Sat, 10 April 2021, 18:01:48
Do we have an ETA for the GB yet, since kits and vendors are confirmed? :) <3
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Mon, 12 April 2021, 12:16:53
Do we have an ETA for the GB yet, since kits and vendors are confirmed? :) <3

Not yet, I want to make sure the dye-sub legend sharpness and colors are quality before going to GB, so once the keycap samples are approved we're ordering dye-sub samples. ✌️
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: fruitykeeb on Mon, 12 April 2021, 13:01:18
I'm really intrigued by this, but also conflicted at the same time. I like the profile, it reminds me of those really old typewriters and their circular keys. I don't know if I'd actually buy in, but the colors and kits offered are very nice.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: fakedSkill on Mon, 12 April 2021, 13:50:49
Not yet, I want to make sure the dye-sub legend sharpness and colors are quality before going to GB, so once the keycap samples are approved we're ordering dye-sub samples. ✌️

Thank you for the update and for not rushing the GB to make sure the quality is as expected! <3 Can't wait!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: OxC0FFEE on Wed, 21 April 2021, 14:46:32
I really love this. The toughest choice is dark or light. I’ll probably get both ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

On the IC form it asks for collab ideas. Here’s one I’d love that would be right up this set’s alley: a bezel-less case like the old Apple prototype “Cassie”, https://www.applefritter.com/node/312
[attach=1 width=400]

It could be 60% at the minimum, and if there was enough demand, other layouts. If I dare to dream, a 40, a 60/65, and/or a modular set you can put together to your liking (separate navigation/num pads). Without bezels they would not take up much real estate on the desk.

There’s a real hole in the market for this aesthetic currently, and I think you’ve nailed it.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: minicap on Wed, 21 April 2021, 15:17:40
This is really cool! Love the ergo support (especially the accent escape keys!)
Excited to see how the samples turn out.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: jagger27 on Wed, 12 May 2021, 03:07:07
I really love this. The toughest choice is dark or light. I’ll probably get both ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

On the IC form it asks for collab ideas. Here’s one I’d love that would be right up this set’s alley: a bezel-less case like the old Apple prototype “Cassie”, https://www.applefritter.com/node/312
(Attachment Link)

It could be 60% at the minimum, and if there was enough demand, other layouts. If I dare to dream, a 40, a 60/65, and/or a modular set you can put together to your liking (separate navigation/num pads). Without bezels they would not take up much real estate on the desk.

There’s a real hole in the market for this aesthetic currently, and I think you’ve nailed it.

I love this idea
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: Nerdbot5000 on Wed, 12 May 2021, 20:57:04
Low profile, uniform, and is that a 1.75 function I see in the misc kit? This is end game tier for me. Very interested.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: Volny on Wed, 12 May 2021, 22:34:53
I was really, really excited about this when I saw the profile comparison diagrams, but my excitement ended when I saw the renders. This looks great but is not going to feel nice to type on.

Everything about the profile diagram makes it seem like an improvement on existing profiles, which is impressive. You've got the pleasant gentle scoop of DSA, but with greater surface area and a longer skirt for better key coverage. But you also retain some of DSA's typo-resistance by including those slight bevels, which will also prevent the annoyingly sharp edges of OEM and Cherry profiles. So far, so great.

But then when we see the top down view, it becomes clear that this profile was designed for eyes, not fingers. For those people who own 20 keyboards to display on their shelf that's perhaps fine, but I don't think this will feel good to type on. Because of the perfect circle shape, keys to the north and south will be harder to reach, while keys to the east and west will feel abnormally close, and possibly be more typo-prone.

And think about how people use ctrl and shift: they often rest their weakest finger on the edge of the key where it'll naturally creep up towards the corner while their hand stretches to hit more distant keys within the same key combination. With this profile, their finger is more likely than usual to slip off that corner.

The typography looks nice, and I like how the modifier legends are all left/right aligned. It looks elegant. I also like the colored shift and matching secondary legends - that's one of those features that once you see it seems like it should have always been that way. Though I think the black version is less successful - the yellow secondary color just makes the keys look a little dirty in the renders. I think this is caused by the primary white and secondary yellow being too close. Perhaps a sky blue or or sea-green would look nicer?

Also, why no "win" key? "Sys" feels like a placeholder rather than a real key.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: Nuap on Wed, 12 May 2021, 22:58:13
I was really, really excited about this when I saw the profile comparison diagrams, but my excitement ended when I saw the renders. This looks great but is not going to feel nice to type on.

Everything about the profile diagram makes it seem like an improvement on existing profiles, which is impressive. You've got the pleasant gentle scoop of DSA, but with greater surface area and a longer skirt for better key coverage. But you also retain some of DSA's typo-resistance by including those slight bevels, which will also prevent the annoyingly sharp edges of OEM and Cherry profiles. So far, so great.

But then when we see the top down view, it becomes clear that this profile was designed for eyes, not fingers. For those people who own 20 keyboards to display on their shelf that's perhaps fine, but I don't think this will feel good to type on. Because of the perfect circle shape, keys to the north and south will be harder to reach, while keys to the east and west will feel abnormally close, and possibly be more typo-prone.

And think about how people use ctrl and shift: they often rest their weakest finger on the edge of the key where it'll naturally creep up towards the corner while their hand stretches to hit more distant keys within the same key combination. With this profile, their finger is more likely than usual to slip off that corner.

The typography looks nice, and I like how the modifier legends are all left/right aligned. It looks elegant. I also like the colored shift and matching secondary legends - that's one of those features that once you see it seems like it should have always been that way. Though I think the black version is less successful - the yellow secondary color just makes the keys look a little dirty in the renders. I think this is caused by the primary white and secondary yellow being too close. Perhaps a sky blue or or sea-green would look nicer?

Also, why no "win" key? "Sys" feels like a placeholder rather than a real key.

I agree with your sentiment regarding the edges of modifiers, but I do disagree with your assessment of the Sys key.

Sys, Super, Code etc. is preferred as it allows you to use the keycaps on a Mac layout with a Win key.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: switchnollie on Thu, 13 May 2021, 00:52:55
Very interesting profile, I like the different colored legends like that.
Don't really see it much unless it's sub legends.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: jebbra on Thu, 13 May 2021, 03:01:05
New profile is always interesting to try on. Colorway, typeface choice, and legend treatment is very "clean", reminding me of German design like Leica or Dieter Rams.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: tonnu on Thu, 13 May 2021, 03:37:46
wow very teenageengineering op-1 vibe!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: VAMP on Thu, 13 May 2021, 10:44:47
not sure how im gonna like this, but it does definitely looks good! GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Thu, 13 May 2021, 14:51:54
Haven't given an update here in a little bit but things are slowly progressing! The first SLK samples were made some weeks ago but Nostril made some small modifications and the manu is working on those right now. If approved, we'll go ahead and order some dye sub samples to work through legend sharpness/positioning, and match the colors. ✌️
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: minicap on Thu, 13 May 2021, 20:10:28
Oooh! Excited to see how the new round of samples turn out :D
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: YMwoo on Thu, 13 May 2021, 23:37:52
Haven't given an update here in a little bit but things are slowly progressing! The first SLK samples were made some weeks ago but Nostril made some small modifications and the manu is working on those right now. If approved, we'll go ahead and order some dye sub samples to work through legend sharpness/positioning, and match the colors. ✌️

good to hear. can't wait for the sample.
I'm still on the fence about the color but really excited for the possibility of a new profile and hopefully the lead time will be much better compared to others too.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: jepii on Fri, 14 May 2021, 10:56:21
Beautiful design, like an evolution of the Devlin Z-series "teletype" keycaps. I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: UltimaQ on Mon, 17 May 2021, 15:43:02
Really like this clean design. Can't wait to kit out my PAN in this.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Wed, 19 May 2021, 21:22:28
Smol update: Zion Studios added as a vendor for SEA 👌
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Wed, 09 June 2021, 11:23:39
June Update

Second round of samples have been made and should be shipping to FK Caps & Synth Labs soon. If approved we'll order dye-sub samples ✌️



(https://imgur.com/5QKu8yv.png)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 10 June 2021, 03:30:39
Great looking, very excited for this.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: WillyWortel on Sat, 26 June 2021, 14:21:44
Very interesting design. Definitely interested. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: phxrbn on Sun, 04 July 2021, 21:37:01
How does SLK compare to dsa now with the changes to the profile?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Mon, 05 July 2021, 19:21:26
How does SLK compare to dsa now with the changes to the profile?

The diagram uses the latest iteration of SLK profile so it's up to date 😀

Also just to update everyone here: the second round of samples have been received and I'm really liking the feel and sound of them. I'll see if Nostril would like to share anything as he's the profile designer 🙏
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: YMwoo on Mon, 05 July 2021, 23:23:11
Also just to update everyone here: the second round of samples have been received and I'm really liking the feel and sound of them. I'll see if Nostril would like to share anything as he's the profile designer 🙏
Touch feel or typing feel?
Any real-life sample pics?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: WillyWortel on Wed, 18 August 2021, 17:56:20
When will  the 65% board by Synth Labs be available? This set looks very nice on that white/red board  :p
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Wed, 18 August 2021, 18:38:07
Touch feel or typing feel?
Any real-life sample pics?

I think they feel great, they feel pretty solid and have a slightly deeper sound than GMK keycaps. We're having the manufacturer adjust some injection settings and do another round of samples which are hopefully final; we'll probably share more thorough thoughts and images then. 🙏
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: phxrbn on Fri, 27 August 2021, 20:07:49
Still hoping/pushing for a 'monochrome kit' where all the shifted symbol colors are same as non-shifted symbols, or muted to a greyscaled color (i.e. dark grey for white kit, light grey for black kit). Kit would include 29 keys with shifted symbols and shifts.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: LASERman Projects on Sun, 29 August 2021, 17:55:37
Why pushing to what would be like GMK copy? I like this design, stop making all looking the same.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: phxrbn on Sun, 29 August 2021, 18:28:30
Why would that be like GMK? So if it's colorful it's non GMK but if it's muted it's GMK? So KAT monochrome, SA Ice, DSA granite... All GMK copies... Got it. Here I'm thinking that profile has to do with the size and shape of the keys, guess it's about color combos.

This is already a muted set. It's timeless. That's what I like about it..
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 29 August 2021, 19:19:35
Consider me somewhat interested. It'll all depend on how those dye sub samples turn out.

Is the dye sub going to be done in-house by the same manu that produces the caps, or is it being outsourced?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: blur410 on Sun, 24 October 2021, 11:44:56
These look so much like old Siemens keycaps. I might be interested depending on the finish. I hope they are only textured on top and shiny on the sides.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: oilpapers on Fri, 17 December 2021, 08:13:00
Wow, I am intrigued for sure - adore the light set (though will be hoping for different modifier colours down the line).

I absolutely LOVE the shift accent colours, great touch and the font choice is spot on. It has this retro but scifi feel to it and I really want to get this on the right board. Count me in!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: gfolgert on Mon, 20 December 2021, 01:54:16
I'm extremely interested in these keycaps (created an account just for this post!)

Any updates on progress? Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Mon, 20 December 2021, 13:10:02
Apologies for the lack of updates here, things have been progressing slowly but as far as I know the keycap forms themselves have been finalized and the first dyesub samples are making their way to me right now. These are a first attempt so I'm anticipating at least another round of samples to make sure things are looking great 🙏
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: khawkins98 on Mon, 17 January 2022, 07:07:27
Have just stumbled across these. They look fantastic. Drawing on classic things while be modernised in the right ways. Really hoping to be able to try them out sometime in the near future.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: salgiza on Mon, 17 January 2022, 07:39:53
Just saw this thread and it is true that this set has some really nice Dieter Rams vibes. Seeing that it is an uniform profile with no tertiary labels in the international kit, maybe the kit could be extended to cover the same keys as (for example) the DSA Milkshake (https://novelkeys.com/products/dsa-milkshake?variant=40980340834471) international kit?

That set also adds support for ES/PT & FR layouts (don't know if any more) on top of Nordeuk and, as a ES user myself, I'd really love to buy these keycaps!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: whee74 on Fri, 21 January 2022, 14:34:48
the profiles are very interesting. they look really fun to type on
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: oilpapers on Mon, 31 January 2022, 06:50:03
Would love if the international kit included 3#£ and 4$€ keys
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: geekit on Wed, 16 February 2022, 09:10:54
Ever considering accent kit? For example;

(https://i.imgur.com/IoEmvnh.jpg)

(Pardon the lousy Photoshop work)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: StrangPrisoner on Wed, 16 February 2022, 10:42:11
Ever considering accent kit? For example;

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/IoEmvnh.jpg)


(Pardon the lousy Photoshop work)
I could very much get on board with this.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: damsenviet on Thu, 17 February 2022, 21:48:29
Any updates on how far along the project status is? Would love to hear how the samples turned out.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: marici22 on Thu, 17 February 2022, 23:55:56
Cute profile but how is it typing experience-wise? Since it's uniform profile I reckon it could take a bit of getting used to.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Fri, 18 February 2022, 18:20:35
Any updates on how far along the project status is? Would love to hear how the samples turned out.

The keycap forms themselves are looking great, our manu recently tightened up the stems a touch based on our feedback from the previous round last month.
The first dyesub samples were unfortunately lost in the mail but I gave some feedback based on the photos they sent us and they're on track to make new and improved dyesub samples for us next week.
May revisit kitting a bit once things are further along since we're a ways away from price quotes; things are slow but progress is being made 🙏


Cute profile but how is it typing experience-wise? Since it's uniform profile I reckon it could take a bit of getting used to.

I haven't found it difficult to type on at all, likely because I've been using the flat MacBook keyboards for forever, but it should be similar, if not more comfortable than KAM and DSA.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: geekit on Mon, 21 February 2022, 08:55:52
I might have missed this but is the top totally flat? Or slightly concave?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: dvorcol on Mon, 21 February 2022, 18:13:07
I might have missed this but is the top totally flat? Or slightly concave?

This is in the OP:

(https://imgur.com/db7Sm7b.png)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: geekit on Sun, 27 February 2022, 00:28:54
Whops. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Tue, 05 April 2022, 19:11:24
Hi friends, I've received the first color samples today and wanted to share my thoughts on them. Keep in mind we're aiming to nail down the colors first, then perfect the thickness/positioning of the legends. Also probably doesn't need to be said, but these quick photos aren't going to be totally accurate to what I'm seeing irl.

(https://imgur.com/FYVPDKt.png)

(https://imgur.com/YDE3hoR.png)

(https://imgur.com/JiKDeyS.png)

Some adjustments to be made are: neutralizing the light grey (too warm), dark grey (too cool), and black (too cool, third pic compared to the more neutral GMK WoB); adding some more red to the red which is skewing a touch magenta; and increasing the saturation on the yellow which is a little too mustardy. Will update again when I receive the next round 🙏
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: Robert.Lussier5 on Tue, 05 April 2022, 20:51:36
had my attention with uniform profile. Looking forward to seeing this go into GB. A scooped uniform seems like it would be very nice to use.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: LASERman Projects on Wed, 06 April 2022, 08:50:29
Great to see progress, appreciation to kema for the attention to accurate colours and thanks for the close up photos.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: fairypenguin on Thu, 07 April 2022, 04:45:03
This looks clean af
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Post by: hottrout on Thu, 07 April 2022, 07:33:20
Thank you for the update and looking great so far.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: granola bar enthusiast on Thu, 07 April 2022, 15:46:45
reminds me of a more polished version of those crappy typewriter-looking keycaps you can find on amazon
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: fairypenguin on Thu, 07 April 2022, 16:50:13
I enjoy DSA, so I bet these would feel great to use too. They look so nice.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Mon, 11 April 2022, 17:59:56
Excited to share we'll be working with Turbulent Labs (https://turbulentlabs.com/) on some beautiful accessories to pair with SLK Dessau.
There will be desk mats and wrist rests in two sizes and two colorways, and coasters if there's interest in those. All of these offerings will be made from full grain Nappa leather.
More info to come once we finalize some of the details 🙏

(https://imgur.com/RAmAUYq.png)

(https://imgur.com/MgqBPJN.png)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: WhiteHelix on Tue, 12 July 2022, 09:00:27
I absolutely love the design, reminds me a bit of Dieter Rams Braun products. Definitely a have to buy.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: Zaum.Tech on Tue, 09 August 2022, 12:24:39
Dieter Rams is certainly what comes in mind. Intriguing.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: Sail on Fri, 18 November 2022, 15:26:53
It's been quite a while since we've had an update on this project.
Have things just stalled or is progress still being made?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Sun, 05 February 2023, 16:49:26
Hey all, sorry for the lack of updates here, progress had been slow but in early January, we got our samples to a place we were happy to move forward with.
The group buy will run from May 1st to June 1st with delivery estimated in December.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/798851309964099614/1066861360400572436/IMG_9905.png)

Over the next few months we'll be fixing up renders and the minisite, working on our artisan collabs, continuing to refine the keycaps and doing a full set of samples (this will probably be completed during the group buy itself).

For now, if you'd like to get email updates, do join click the "SLK Updates" button on FK Caps' new site: https://fkcaps.com/keycaps/slk/dessau

Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: Kokaloo on Sun, 05 February 2023, 17:32:35
Hey all, sorry for the lack of updates here, progress had been slow but in early January, we got our samples to a place we were happy to move forward with.
The group buy will run from May 1st to June 1st with delivery estimated in December.

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/798851309964099614/1066861360400572436/IMG_9905.png)


Over the next few months we'll be fixing up renders and the minisite, working on our artisan collabs, continuing to refine the keycaps and doing a full set of samples (this will probably be completed during the group buy itself).

For now, if you'd like to get email updates, do join click the "SLK Updates" button on FK Caps' new site: https://fkcaps.com/keycaps/slk/dessau

very exciting. any news about what the price might look like?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau • slkdessau.com
Post by: kema on Sun, 05 February 2023, 19:04:02
very exciting. any news about what the price might look like?

I'll check with the team and see when we can confirm retail pricing :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 03 March 2023, 01:13:39
Incredible! Really looking forward to this one

I found the centered 1.75U Shift a bit off putting, I think it should've been right aligned

Mainly for separated arrow 75% keyboards
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: KHAANNN on Sat, 04 March 2023, 04:17:49
Hello all, here are the proposed changes. NorDe support (without tertiary legends) added into what was originally the Misc Kit. And legended ergo keys replacing the blanks in the Compact Kits, with some 1u and 1.5u keys that can already be found in the Base Kits.

Let me know your thoughts 🙏


Compact Kits

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(https://imgur.com/yKFpVfc.png)


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(https://imgur.com/GU59rlU.png)



International & Misc Kits

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One other thing: I'm using a Vortex Race 3 which has these unusual 1.5u ESC and DEL keys. No doubt I'd be more than happy if there were a kit covering this but I guess it's even more niche than NorDe. So to cover those keys, will the ergo kit be the one with spare 1.5u keys? Or any other way how I could cover them?

Those keys will be covered by the Compact Kits above ✌️

My feedback is:

1.25U Shift should be centered, right aligned looks extremely awkward since there isn't enough space

There should be a right aligned 1.75U Shift somewhere, you have a center aligned 1.75U Shift in the main kit, a left aligned one in the extras kit, but for separated arrow 75%'s and 65%'s, a right aligned 1.75U Shift is needed to go along with the design principle where you chose to right align right modifiers

To be honest just center align all modifiers before it's too late? That right aligned 1.25U Ctrl in the main kit also looks weird and I see you included a 1.25U centered Ctrl just for people who'll think so too

Not really a big issue though, and I respect the original design decision, from my perspective, only a 1.75U Right aligned Shift solves the problem

If the 1.75U Right aligned Shift is added to the main kit, I'll join for both colorways, if not, I guess I'll have to decide on just one and it's hard to decide :)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 19 March 2023, 10:12:35
I know I'm super late to ask something like this but would it be possible to add a media keys kit? I never use most of the key in the side cluster (Except for Pg Up/Dn & Delete)and wish that more keysets would include media key replacement options. This would be perfect for this keyset since all the keys seem to be the same size so I could put the media keys anywhere. Thanks  ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Kits Updated 2/17)
Post by: LASERman Projects on Mon, 20 March 2023, 08:02:35

To be honest just center align all modifiers before it's too late?

I agree just for the fact that some people would like to put kecaps in very unusual locations.

Although I like the original idea of legends aligned to sides.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: kema on Mon, 03 April 2023, 00:12:18
Kits/design have been locked in with our manufacturer so we can't make any changes but I personally like the look of the edge aligned mods over centered. Media keys would be cool for a future run for sure, but for a first run we wanted to keep kits slim and simple.

Also noting here Aiglatson Studio will be joining us as a vendor based in Thailand :)
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: involuntarysoul on Mon, 03 April 2023, 18:41:49
are the stem recessed like GMK or flush like CRP?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: DaaDaa on Mon, 03 April 2023, 21:20:16
which company will manufacture this?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: Nuap on Mon, 03 April 2023, 23:38:58
which company will manufacture this?


The original post states "Produced by FK Caps"
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: kema on Tue, 04 April 2023, 10:31:28
are the stem recessed like GMK or flush like CRP?

They're recessed, the skirt extends past the lowest part of the stem 👍
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: DaaDaa on Tue, 04 April 2023, 11:08:57
are the stem recessed like GMK or flush like CRP?

They're recessed, the skirt extends past the lowest part of the stem 👍

Hi mr kema. Is fk caps a new company? Have they manufactured want keycap set before? Where are they located and who are they? Are your affiliated with them beyond offering this set from them?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: DaaDaa on Thu, 06 April 2023, 05:18:53
are the stem recessed like GMK or flush like CRP?

They're recessed, the skirt extends past the lowest part of the stem 👍

Hi mr kema. Is fk caps a new company? Have they manufactured any keycap set before? Where are they located and who are they? Are you affiliated with them beyond offering this set from them?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: Nuap on Thu, 06 April 2023, 20:59:54
are the stem recessed like GMK or flush like CRP?

They're recessed, the skirt extends past the lowest part of the stem 👍

Hi mr kema. Is fk caps a new company? Have they manufactured any keycap set before? Where are they located and who are they? Are you affiliated with them beyond offering this set from them?


They've been around for at least 3 years and successfully ran MBK Choc. I believe their HQ is in France.


Not really sure what relevance any affiliation has on the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: KiserDesigns on Fri, 07 April 2023, 12:15:17
This is giving typewriter vibes, and I love the font on the legends.
Being uniform profile makes it really flexible when kitting out odd layout boards, I could totally see this profile becoming a staple like DSA is for the 40% space.
Nice work!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: hzh0525 on Thu, 20 April 2023, 06:19:02
very universal for retro lovers!
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: sirm1ster on Thu, 20 April 2023, 17:30:36
Very nice keycap set. It might bring me back in the scene.

Would this base set for a 75% keyboard like the Zoom75 or gmmk pro?
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: CaesarAZealad on Thu, 20 April 2023, 18:17:41
I hate uniprofile but I need these. They're just so weird I need them for like, a macropad or something.
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: Nuap on Thu, 20 April 2023, 19:33:33
Kema said on Discord that "base kits for US buyers will be $99"  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: DuellM on Sat, 22 April 2023, 23:20:27
Kema said on Discord that "base kits for US buyers will be $99"  :thumb:
Awesome!!  ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: kema on Sun, 30 April 2023, 11:50:05
Hey all, front post updated with all the new info including pricing, accessories and labeled flatlays. Still waiting on approval for the GB thread but content will be the same, thanks! 🙏
Title: Re: [IC] SLK Dessau (Group Buy LIVE May 1st – June 1st)
Post by: kema on Mon, 01 May 2023, 11:24:07
GB is live at the following:

Cannon Keys (US)↗ (https://cannonkeys.com/products/slk-dessau)
Deskhero (CA)↗ (https://www.deskhero.ca/products/slk-dessau-keycaps-groupbuy)
zFrontier (CN)↗ (https://www.zfrontier.com/app/mch/1j4qk7DqKYeo)
zFrontier (AS)↗ (https://en.zfrontier.com/products/group-buy-slk-dessau)
Yushakobo (JP)↗ (https://shop.yushakobo.jp/products/7500)
Aiglatson Studio (TH)↗ (https://aiglatsonstudio.com/products/slk-dessau)

Deskhero, CandyKeys, Prototypist, SwitchKeys should be up shortly !