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Title: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 18 October 2015, 14:40:51
A new thread, since the old one has been locked...  :thumb:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 18 October 2015, 16:16:34
Did we need a new thread?
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 18 October 2015, 16:45:25
Until there will be a set sold
without an option for bars, the confrontation will continue.

Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 18 October 2015, 19:13:40
lmao
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 18 October 2015, 19:16:31
Retard
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: ImpendingxDoom on Sun, 18 October 2015, 19:17:55
Everyone has an opinion, and no one should be looked down on for their preference
/thread
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Sent on Sun, 18 October 2015, 19:20:20
Everyone has an opinion, and no one should be looked down on for their preference
/thread

Stop being logical and levelheaded. 
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: E3E on Sun, 18 October 2015, 19:38:40
It's whatever, give me scoops, bars, or nips. I'll be fine, except when I'm not. Sometimes I just don't want nipples.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 18 October 2015, 19:51:26
maybe I'll use those scoops to clean up my cat's **** cuz that's what they're good for
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 18 October 2015, 19:55:14
good **** Giorgio, thanks for making a new one. I'm sure it'll bring some great discussion.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 18 October 2015, 20:50:35
Just put all 3 on one keycap.

People will still complain.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: jerue on Sun, 18 October 2015, 23:43:30
Why does this thread have an exclamation mark for its message icon

Why am I even posting here

Do I need to make a stupid *** post so I can report myself and bother those who don't need bothering

Good going, this gets a thumbs down.

Really good discussion here.

If you try to scoop up the wrong nips you might get thrown behind bars. That's how I feel about this.


....and I'll show myself the door.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: ika on Mon, 19 October 2015, 01:33:06
why is this such a stupid combative topic? It's so damn simple. Sometimes I see posts in threads like this and then I see people bashing reddit for being stupid or some other stupid thing and I just sigh and leave for a bit.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 19 October 2015, 02:20:48
why is this such a stupid combative topic? It's so damn simple. Sometimes I see posts in threads like this and then I see people bashing reddit for being stupid or some other stupid thing and I just sigh and leave for a bit.

Agreed. Just give people the option. It's not such a great sacrifice to add two caps to a GB. There's no need to debate it at all, IMHO.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 19 October 2015, 02:27:25
It's just a matter of how Giorgio goes about in in IC and GB thread.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 19 October 2015, 16:42:04
Considering that you can't ski without bars, and that you can't input data with a spoon, how probable is it that ski-data will reach the moq?

We all obviously - and sincerely - hope that the set reaches the moq, while crossing our fingers and touching the unsurprisingly embarrassed nipple on the number five.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: absyrd on Mon, 19 October 2015, 17:09:06
maybe I'll use those scoops to clean up my cat's **** cuz that's what they're good for

I find them very useful to hold my cocaine while I'm up all night gaming and coding.

Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 19 October 2015, 17:22:41
maybe I'll use those scoops to clean up my cat's **** cuz that's what they're good for

I find them very useful to hold my cocaine while I'm up all night gaming and coding.

If you had two bars on your keyboard, at least once in a while you could see and touch how clear, simple and straight is the right path.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: absyrd on Mon, 19 October 2015, 17:25:34
maybe I'll use those scoops to clean up my cat's **** cuz that's what they're good for

I find them very useful to hold my cocaine while I'm up all night gaming and coding.

If you had two bars on your keyboard, at least once in a while you could see and touch how clear, simple and straight is the right path.

I have two lines on my keyboard. Is that the same as bars?
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 19 October 2015, 18:17:44
Considering that you can't ski without bars, and that you can't input data with a spoon, how probable is it that ski-data will reach the moq?

Man, good thing you made a new thread so you could get all this good insight into the world
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 19 October 2015, 20:51:41
are u fking serious
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: BrewCaps on Mon, 19 October 2015, 21:50:54
Bars & brewcaps
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 20 October 2015, 06:57:31
Considering that you can't ski without bars, and that you can't input data with a spoon, how probable is it that ski-data will reach the moq?

Man, good thing you made a new thread so you could get all this good insight into the world

And you killed the old one because it was just old scoops?
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 20 October 2015, 06:59:03
Considering that you can't ski without bars, and that you can't input data with a spoon, how probable is it that ski-data will reach the moq?

Man, good thing you made a new thread so you could get all this good insight into the world

And you killed the old one because it was just old scoops?
I killed the old one because there was no discussion left to have
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 20 October 2015, 07:39:22
Time to [unload] the thread.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 October 2015, 10:31:17
This thread is super useful.  :thumb:  Wonderful insightful discussion here.  :thumb:


Also, I fixed the topic icon.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 20 October 2015, 22:30:54
This thread is super useful.  :thumb:  Wonderful insightful discussion here.  :thumb:

Right? I'm so happy Giorgio made another thread, how short-sighted of me to inhibit the flow of well-thought-out discussion.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: njbair on Tue, 20 October 2015, 22:38:03
At least the old thread had nipple jokes.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Polymer on Wed, 21 October 2015, 02:19:54
I think it is a good reminder that there are a significant number of users that would like to see this as either an option or some way to have it added..there were a few good ideas on how that could be achieved as well...

Such as, making it so if you hit a MOQ for 50 for any of the optional (all extras layouts would be optional) and those people would divide the remainder of the real 250 MOQ between themselves...so if you ended up with 125 people, you would have to buy 2 sets of the extra layout...but at the cost of 1 Euro per key (on average), if that means you're getting a 5 set extras layout for this and a 5 set extras layout for that, you might be paying 10 euro per...but you can do with it what you want (sell it later, use it for something else, etc). 

If the MOQ of 250 is hit naturally then everyone just gets one...if you don't have an even number you'll have to determine how it gets split up..but the point is, people would have to pay to get those keys made...

I'm sure it won't happen..because people are more interested in getting others to pay for the extras they want...but in the least we could apply that to bars...If 50 people went in and I had to pay 10 Euros to get 5 sets of bar keys, that's a no brainer if I really want it...
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 21 October 2015, 04:28:59
I think it is a good reminder that there are a significant number of users that would like to see this as either an option or some way to have it added..there were a few good ideas on how that could be achieved as well...

Such as, making it so if you hit a MOQ for 50 for any of the optional (all extras layouts would be optional) and those people would divide the remainder of the real 250 MOQ between themselves...so if you ended up with 125 people, you would have to buy 2 sets of the extra layout...but at the cost of 1 Euro per key (on average), if that means you're getting a 5 set extras layout for this and a 5 set extras layout for that, you might be paying 10 euro per...but you can do with it what you want (sell it later, use it for something else, etc). 

If the MOQ of 250 is hit naturally then everyone just gets one...if you don't have an even number you'll have to determine how it gets split up..but the point is, people would have to pay to get those keys made...

I'm sure it won't happen..because people are more interested in getting others to pay for the extras they want...but in the least we could apply that to bars...If 50 people went in and I had to pay 10 Euros to get 5 sets of bar keys, that's a no brainer if I really want it...

If I were running a GMK GB I'd just include barred homing keys in the base kit. At the quantities sold it really is as little as $1.50 or so extra (or even less). Not worth all this fuss and bother and more useful to most and a lot less expensive than 1800 layout support for instance. I don't get why this concept is met with such resistance.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Polymer on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:14:49
I think it is a good reminder that there are a significant number of users that would like to see this as either an option or some way to have it added..there were a few good ideas on how that could be achieved as well...

Such as, making it so if you hit a MOQ for 50 for any of the optional (all extras layouts would be optional) and those people would divide the remainder of the real 250 MOQ between themselves...so if you ended up with 125 people, you would have to buy 2 sets of the extra layout...but at the cost of 1 Euro per key (on average), if that means you're getting a 5 set extras layout for this and a 5 set extras layout for that, you might be paying 10 euro per...but you can do with it what you want (sell it later, use it for something else, etc). 

If the MOQ of 250 is hit naturally then everyone just gets one...if you don't have an even number you'll have to determine how it gets split up..but the point is, people would have to pay to get those keys made...

I'm sure it won't happen..because people are more interested in getting others to pay for the extras they want...but in the least we could apply that to bars...If 50 people went in and I had to pay 10 Euros to get 5 sets of bar keys, that's a no brainer if I really want it...

If I were running a GMK GB I'd just include barred homing keys in the base kit. At the quantities sold it really is as little as $1.50 or so extra (or even less). Not worth all this fuss and bother and more useful to most and a lot less expensive than 1800 layout support for instance. I don't get why this concept is met with such resistance.

Agreed..I think that is what it the most bothersome part of it.

1800 support, for example, is a number of keys and the total number of users in the GB that actually can use it is really quite small.  People talked about the 1800 GB that was going on..but I think the guy was going to make a total of 40 or 50 which included users on the Korean Forums...which probably put GH at 15-20 in total...Lightsaver works w/ it so add a few more...but either way, I like the extra layout support but there are probably 30+ keys I won't ever use...and some of them aren't even layout keys, they might just be some really niche keys...like R2 Backspace, Stepped Control key...I mean, I like having those keys as extras but are those anymore important?

That's why I think having the MOQ split between those that want it is a good idea...instead of needing 250 you might set it at 50 and they end up splitting the costs and get the extra sets...That's putting your money where your mouth is....and if it is popular enough, you won't have to spend any extra at all (other than the costs of the keys).  If it isn't popular enough to get 50 then people really didn't want it that bad or want it at all (which means it shouldn't have been in the set). 
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:18:04
Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [retarded]
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:29:19
scoops are ****

bars are ok

nubbins are alright

scoops are pretty tho

i'm with JD on this one
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: absyrd on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:29:21
HHKB has bars.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:30:45
I will soon post a review of my favorite bars, describing in detail the thickness and size and positioning relative to the border. Also among bars, there are some terrible ones.

I know that you will not buy a new set of keycaps without first seeing my insightful review. I feel the pressure... in this economic situation, I can't hold hostage the keycaps market for too long. I will soon deliver.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: mogo on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:36:32
Just use brobots on F and J.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: inanis on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:38:43
This is insane. No one should care this much about bars, nips or scoops. And everyone is allowed their own preference.

That beings said, here is what I think: 

- The keyboard I'm using has scoops, I find that pretty pleasant.
- My stand alone numpad has a bar. I didn't even know that until I looked.
- I have nipples. Those are my favorite.  :cool:

At least the old thread had nipple jokes.

Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: njbair on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:39:45
This is insane. No one should care this much about bars, nips or scoops. And everyone is allowed their own preference.

That beings said, here is what I think: 

- The keyboard I'm using has scoops, I find that pretty pleasant.
- My stand alone numpad has a bar. I didn't even know that until I looked.
- I have nipples. Those are my favorite.  :cool:

At least the old thread had nipple jokes.
Awesome! We have nipple jokes again.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: absyrd on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:54:41
What if we had bars on F and J, scoops on D and K, and nips on A and ;? IC incoming. Equal opportunity GB.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 21 October 2015, 15:38:25
Let's have braille stickers on each key

(http://i.imgur.com/VNcWaFS.jpg)
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Sent on Wed, 21 October 2015, 15:54:06
This is insane. No one should care this much about bars, nips or scoops. And everyone is allowed their own preference.

That beings said, here is what I think: 

- The keyboard I'm using has scoops, I find that pretty pleasant.
- My stand alone numpad has a bar. I didn't even know that until I looked.
- I have nipples. Those are my favorite.  :cool:

Nipples are indeed pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 21 October 2015, 18:31:11
Let's have braille stickers on each key

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VNcWaFS.jpg)


are you really that stupid or you are trolling. i recommend you pull off the F and J keycaps and type directly on the switches. It is most noticeable.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 22 October 2015, 01:14:25
Let's have braille stickers on each key

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VNcWaFS.jpg)


are you really that stupid or you are trolling. i recommend you pull off the F and J keycaps and type directly on the switches. It is most noticeable.

You are that stupid. That's not a scoop.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Karura on Thu, 22 October 2015, 11:07:05
I'm Karura, and this is my favourite thread on the internet. [retarded as ****]
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Karura on Thu, 22 October 2015, 11:28:01
Serious response:

This AND the last thread is no longer about productive discussion regarding our subjective opinions, and deteriorated to retarded trolling and ****posts.

BUT hey, sometimes people gotta voice their genius opinions like this one:
Quote from: Giorgio
Scoops are made for feminine fingers.
They feel unnaturally small and uncomfortable, when compared to the ergonomically correct shape of the other gmk keycaps.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Polymer on Thu, 22 October 2015, 11:33:34
That's a bit inappropriate don't you think?

The thread has been very important....It has obviously highlighted that there are a good portion of users that would want bars...it is more than a legitimate option in these GBs...I think without talking about it, people would still say "you're the only one that wants them..are you going to pay for them all?"...obviously that is NOT true...
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 22 October 2015, 12:10:04
Serious response:

This AND the last thread is no longer about productive discussion regarding our subjective opinions, and deteriorated to retarded trolling and ****posts.

BUT hey, sometimes people gotta voice their genius opinions like this one:
Quote from: Giorgio
Scoops are made for feminine fingers.
They feel unnaturally small and uncomfortable, when compared to the ergonomically correct shape of the other gmk keycaps.

LOL I don't even know if you exist or not. Still you take it so personally. Evidently it takes so little to hurt your ego.
Can I think that scoops are too little for my fingers or not?
Am I free to say it? Please stop whining, offending people, and don't message me in private again. Thank you very much.

Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 22 October 2015, 17:10:43
That's a bit inappropriate don't you think?

The thread has been very important....It has obviously highlighted that there are a good portion of users that would want bars...it is more than a legitimate option in these GBs...I think without talking about it, people would still say "you're the only one that wants them..are you going to pay for them all?"...obviously that is NOT true...
The first page or so of the last thread was some useful discussion. Anything after that has been useless ****posting.

Serious response:

This AND the last thread is no longer about productive discussion regarding our subjective opinions, and deteriorated to retarded trolling and ****posts.

BUT hey, sometimes people gotta voice their genius opinions like this one:
Quote from: Giorgio
Scoops are made for feminine fingers.
They feel unnaturally small and uncomfortable, when compared to the ergonomically correct shape of the other gmk keycaps.

LOL I don't even know if you exist or not. Still you take it so personally. Evidently it takes so little to hurt your ego.
Can I think that scoops are too little for my fingers or not?
Am I free to say it? Please stop whining, offending people, and don't message me in private again. Thank you very much.

You're free to say whatever you want, and we're free to call this thread useless and ****ing idiotic
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 22 October 2015, 18:45:46
Self fulfilling prophecies, where masochistic people ****post a thread only to make you notice that it is full of **** posts.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 22 October 2015, 18:48:26
Self fulfilling prophecies, where masochistic people ****post a thread only to make you notice that it is full of **** posts.
pot meet kettle
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: KatzenKinder on Thu, 22 October 2015, 18:52:13

Self fulfilling prophecies, where masochistic people ****post a thread only to make you notice that it is full of **** posts.
pot meet kettle

Everyone is now black
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 22 October 2015, 19:47:13

Self fulfilling prophecies, where masochistic people ****post a thread only to make you notice that it is full of **** posts.
pot meet kettle

Everyone is now black

(https://images.rapgenius.com/c793fe96cf93086bc6d6179e6b742bc8.500x217x20.gif)
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 22 October 2015, 19:51:08
This is insane. No one should care this much about bars, nips or scoops. And everyone is allowed their own preference.

That beings said, here is what I think: 

- The keyboard I'm using has scoops, I find that pretty pleasant.
- My stand alone numpad has a bar. I didn't even know that until I looked.
- I have nipples. Those are my favorite.  :cool:

At least the old thread had nipple jokes.
Awesome! We have nipple jokes again.

I have nipples and I'm a joke.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: KatzenKinder on Thu, 22 October 2015, 19:55:25
This is insane. No one should care this much about bars, nips or scoops. And everyone is allowed their own preference.

That beings said, here is what I think: 

- The keyboard I'm using has scoops, I find that pretty pleasant.
- My stand alone numpad has a bar. I didn't even know that until I looked.
- I have nipples. Those are my favorite.  :cool:

At least the old thread had nipple jokes.
Awesome! We have nipple jokes again.

I have nipples and I'm a joke.

(http://i.imgur.com/iocE7IJ.png)

confirmed?
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: njbair on Thu, 22 October 2015, 19:58:15
This is insane. No one should care this much about bars, nips or scoops. And everyone is allowed their own preference.

That beings said, here is what I think: 

- The keyboard I'm using has scoops, I find that pretty pleasant.
- My stand alone numpad has a bar. I didn't even know that until I looked.
- I have nipples. Those are my favorite.  :cool:

At least the old thread had nipple jokes.
Awesome! We have nipple jokes again.

I have nipples and I'm a joke.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iocE7IJ.png)


confirmed?
How was that Google image search for "nipple"?
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: KatzenKinder on Thu, 22 October 2015, 19:58:55
This is insane. No one should care this much about bars, nips or scoops. And everyone is allowed their own preference.

That beings said, here is what I think: 

- The keyboard I'm using has scoops, I find that pretty pleasant.
- My stand alone numpad has a bar. I didn't even know that until I looked.
- I have nipples. Those are my favorite.  :cool:

At least the old thread had nipple jokes.
Awesome! We have nipple jokes again.

I have nipples and I'm a joke.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iocE7IJ.png)


confirmed?
How was that Google image search for "nipple"?

Not as fun as I'd hoped tbh fam
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 22 October 2015, 20:00:36
More
This is insane. No one should care this much about bars, nips or scoops. And everyone is allowed their own preference.

That beings said, here is what I think: 

- The keyboard I'm using has scoops, I find that pretty pleasant.
- My stand alone numpad has a bar. I didn't even know that until I looked.
- I have nipples. Those are my favorite.  :cool:

At least the old thread had nipple jokes.
Awesome! We have nipple jokes again.

I have nipples and I'm a joke.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iocE7IJ.png)


confirmed?
How was that Google image search for "nipple"?
Not as fun as I'd hoped tbh fam

Hope this helps

(http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/It+s+the+funk+wwwyoutubecom+watch+v+xxap19py1fi+_405a6ab67832cfb48304281920d6b9a3.png)
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 22 October 2015, 21:22:13
Serious response:

This AND the last thread is no longer about productive discussion regarding our subjective opinions, and deteriorated to retarded trolling and ****posts.

BUT hey, sometimes people gotta voice their genius opinions like this one:

We needs threads like this, otherwise they tend to spill out into lots of other threads.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: SamirD on Thu, 22 October 2015, 21:24:32
So this is a serious question (although it can be taken as non-serious for more banter):

What are the differences between scoops, bars, and nipples?  I think I know what bars are as the IBM M seems to have them, but are there different placements for bars other than just the very bottom of the keycap?
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 22 October 2015, 21:29:55
So this is a serious question (although it can be taken as non-serious for more banter):

What are the differences between scoops, bars, and nipples?  I think I know what bars are as the IBM M seems to have them, but are there different placements for bars other than just the very bottom of the keycap?

I've never seen bars anywhere than the edge of the keycap upper surface.

Nipples are generally always centrally placed.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Polymer on Thu, 22 October 2015, 22:27:50
So this is a serious question (although it can be taken as non-serious for more banter):

What are the differences between scoops, bars, and nipples?  I think I know what bars are as the IBM M seems to have them, but are there different placements for bars other than just the very bottom of the keycap?

Bars are what you're seeing on you Model M..and most keyboards out there have bars as just a de facto standard.
Some keycaps have nipples which are just dots, generally in the middle or middle/bottom of the key.
Scoops, in this context, are the GMK scooped keys (F and J).  They're shaped differently so they sort of hug your fingers because you're fitting them down slightly from a normal key (or it feels like that anyways).  Take the normal curvature of the top part of the keycap (the part your fingers touch) and make it slightly more concave...

The discussion has started because GMK group buys don't have bars as an option and they're quickly dismissed because some people don't believe anyone could prefer bars over scoops...but I think this thread has shown there is an interest in having it as an option and it makes perfect sense to do so....
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: SamirD on Thu, 22 October 2015, 23:13:00
I've never seen bars anywhere than the edge of the keycap upper surface.

Nipples are generally always centrally placed.
So this is a serious question (although it can be taken as non-serious for more banter):

What are the differences between scoops, bars, and nipples?  I think I know what bars are as the IBM M seems to have them, but are there different placements for bars other than just the very bottom of the keycap?

Bars are what you're seeing on you Model M..and most keyboards out there have bars as just a de facto standard.
Some keycaps have nipples which are just dots, generally in the middle or middle/bottom of the key.
Scoops, in this context, are the GMK scooped keys (F and J).  They're shaped differently so they sort of hug your fingers because you're fitting them down slightly from a normal key (or it feels like that anyways).  Take the normal curvature of the top part of the keycap (the part your fingers touch) and make it slightly more concave...

The discussion has started because GMK group buys don't have bars as an option and they're quickly dismissed because some people don't believe anyone could prefer bars over scoops...but I think this thread has shown there is an interest in having it as an option and it makes perfect sense to do so....
Thank you both for the great responses.  In a community where customization is king, I could hardly see dismissing a detail as 'not needed' without some sort of backlash.

I wonder if someone has thought about making a pair of 'boobcaps' with nipples for the f and j, lol.  So wrong and yet maybe so right?

Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 22 October 2015, 23:32:01
This is insane. No one should care this much about bars, nips or scoops. And everyone is allowed their own preference.

That beings said, here is what I think: 

- The keyboard I'm using has scoops, I find that pretty pleasant.
- My stand alone numpad has a bar. I didn't even know that until I looked.
- I have nipples. Those are my favorite.  :cool:

At least the old thread had nipple jokes.
Awesome! We have nipple jokes again.

I have nipples and I'm a joke.

Damn sharp-nippled bastard!
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: KnivesM on Thu, 22 October 2015, 23:38:53
I've never seen bars anywhere than the edge of the keycap upper surface.

Nipples are generally always centrally placed.
So this is a serious question (although it can be taken as non-serious for more banter):

What are the differences between scoops, bars, and nipples?  I think I know what bars are as the IBM M seems to have them, but are there different placements for bars other than just the very bottom of the keycap?

Bars are what you're seeing on you Model M..and most keyboards out there have bars as just a de facto standard.
Some keycaps have nipples which are just dots, generally in the middle or middle/bottom of the key.
Scoops, in this context, are the GMK scooped keys (F and J).  They're shaped differently so they sort of hug your fingers because you're fitting them down slightly from a normal key (or it feels like that anyways).  Take the normal curvature of the top part of the keycap (the part your fingers touch) and make it slightly more concave...

The discussion has started because GMK group buys don't have bars as an option and they're quickly dismissed because some people don't believe anyone could prefer bars over scoops...but I think this thread has shown there is an interest in having it as an option and it makes perfect sense to do so....
Thank you both for the great responses.  In a community where customization is king, I could hardly see dismissing a detail as 'not needed' without some sort of backlash.

I wonder if someone has thought about making a pair of 'boobcaps' with nipples for the f and j, lol.  So wrong and yet maybe so right?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66214.0
Don't think they ever got made besides the protos
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: SamirD on Fri, 23 October 2015, 00:43:33
I've never seen bars anywhere than the edge of the keycap upper surface.

Nipples are generally always centrally placed.
So this is a serious question (although it can be taken as non-serious for more banter):

What are the differences between scoops, bars, and nipples?  I think I know what bars are as the IBM M seems to have them, but are there different placements for bars other than just the very bottom of the keycap?

Bars are what you're seeing on you Model M..and most keyboards out there have bars as just a de facto standard.
Some keycaps have nipples which are just dots, generally in the middle or middle/bottom of the key.
Scoops, in this context, are the GMK scooped keys (F and J).  They're shaped differently so they sort of hug your fingers because you're fitting them down slightly from a normal key (or it feels like that anyways).  Take the normal curvature of the top part of the keycap (the part your fingers touch) and make it slightly more concave...

The discussion has started because GMK group buys don't have bars as an option and they're quickly dismissed because some people don't believe anyone could prefer bars over scoops...but I think this thread has shown there is an interest in having it as an option and it makes perfect sense to do so....
Thank you both for the great responses.  In a community where customization is king, I could hardly see dismissing a detail as 'not needed' without some sort of backlash.

I wonder if someone has thought about making a pair of 'boobcaps' with nipples for the f and j, lol.  So wrong and yet maybe so right?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66214.0
Don't think they ever got made besides the protos
Wow, just wow.  I can't think of anything innovative anymore. :(  Darn you Internet!
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 23 October 2015, 01:56:51
I've never seen bars anywhere than the edge of the keycap upper surface.

Nipples are generally always centrally placed.
So this is a serious question (although it can be taken as non-serious for more banter):

What are the differences between scoops, bars, and nipples?  I think I know what bars are as the IBM M seems to have them, but are there different placements for bars other than just the very bottom of the keycap?

Bars are what you're seeing on you Model M..and most keyboards out there have bars as just a de facto standard.
Some keycaps have nipples which are just dots, generally in the middle or middle/bottom of the key.
Scoops, in this context, are the GMK scooped keys (F and J).  They're shaped differently so they sort of hug your fingers because you're fitting them down slightly from a normal key (or it feels like that anyways).  Take the normal curvature of the top part of the keycap (the part your fingers touch) and make it slightly more concave...

The discussion has started because GMK group buys don't have bars as an option and they're quickly dismissed because some people don't believe anyone could prefer bars over scoops...but I think this thread has shown there is an interest in having it as an option and it makes perfect sense to do so....
Thank you both for the great responses.  In a community where customization is king, I could hardly see dismissing a detail as 'not needed' without some sort of backlash.

I wonder if someone has thought about making a pair of 'boobcaps' with nipples for the f and j, lol.  So wrong and yet maybe so right?

I agree (not about the boobcaps, but about dismissing an option as 'not needed'). It's really the "scoops master race" refusing to even acknowledge that some people may actually prefer bars and that the less than $2 cost of including them is not acceptable that's making this such an issue, IMHO. When there are other options that DO get included that cost more and have even less people who use them.

As a keyset designer I'd just include the bars. Minimal cost increase for a decent target market increase and better resale value. Why not?
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: SamirD on Fri, 23 October 2015, 08:42:56
I've never seen bars anywhere than the edge of the keycap upper surface.

Nipples are generally always centrally placed.
So this is a serious question (although it can be taken as non-serious for more banter):

What are the differences between scoops, bars, and nipples?  I think I know what bars are as the IBM M seems to have them, but are there different placements for bars other than just the very bottom of the keycap?

Bars are what you're seeing on you Model M..and most keyboards out there have bars as just a de facto standard.
Some keycaps have nipples which are just dots, generally in the middle or middle/bottom of the key.
Scoops, in this context, are the GMK scooped keys (F and J).  They're shaped differently so they sort of hug your fingers because you're fitting them down slightly from a normal key (or it feels like that anyways).  Take the normal curvature of the top part of the keycap (the part your fingers touch) and make it slightly more concave...

The discussion has started because GMK group buys don't have bars as an option and they're quickly dismissed because some people don't believe anyone could prefer bars over scoops...but I think this thread has shown there is an interest in having it as an option and it makes perfect sense to do so....
Thank you both for the great responses.  In a community where customization is king, I could hardly see dismissing a detail as 'not needed' without some sort of backlash.

I wonder if someone has thought about making a pair of 'boobcaps' with nipples for the f and j, lol.  So wrong and yet maybe so right?

I agree (not about the boobcaps, but about dismissing an option as 'not needed'). It's really the "scoops master race" refusing to even acknowledge that some people may actually prefer bars and that the less than $2 cost of including them is not acceptable that's making this such an issue, IMHO. When there are other options that DO get included that cost more and have even less people who use them.

As a keyset designer I'd just include the bars. Minimal cost increase for a decent target market increase and better resale value. Why not?
It's odd how some features that are critical get overlooked for form.  It's just two keycaps--just make it an option.  Like you said, the cost is minimal.  Hell, include all three and call it an option/feature/marketing tidbit.

Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 23 October 2015, 08:44:03
What are you bars fan opinion on gateron homing keys? If you don't know they are scooped + bars.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 23 October 2015, 08:44:36
HHKB has bars.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: inanis on Fri, 23 October 2015, 09:12:50
HHKB has bars.
HHKB needs scoops. And a flipped spacebar. And MX compatible sliders. And an aluminum case...these are the things I have been told. Except for that whole aluminum case thing, that seems to have not gone as planned.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 23 October 2015, 09:33:10
HHKB has bars.
HHKB needs scoops. And a flipped spacebar. And MX compatible sliders. And an aluminum case...these are the things I have been told. Except for that whole aluminum case thing, that seems to have not gone as planned.

Why must you hurt me so badly?
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 23 October 2015, 09:33:41
HHKB has bars.

bars confirmed wrong.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 23 October 2015, 09:34:55
HHKB has bars.

bars confirmed wrong.

You, too?

Someone plz halp.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: inanis on Fri, 23 October 2015, 09:35:44
HHKB has bars.
HHKB needs scoops. And a flipped spacebar. And MX compatible sliders. And an aluminum case...these are the things I have been told. Except for that whole aluminum case thing, that seems to have not gone as planned.

Why must you hurt me so badly?
I'm just repeating what I've heard. I want to be like everyone else! Isn't that what we do here?

I still have no HHKB, but one day...If it makes you feel any better when I do get one I probably won't flip the spacebar, no promises though.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: beehatch on Fri, 23 October 2015, 09:49:30
HHKB has bars.

bars confirmed wrong.

You, too?

Someone plz halp.

bars4lyfe
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 23 October 2015, 12:39:45
What are you bars fan opinion on gateron homing keys? If you don't know they are scooped + bars.

I like them. They're very distinctive and the bars make them easy for me to locate. For some sets I'd prefer plain bars, but I could live with all Cherry sets I buy coming with those double-homing option caps.

TBH, I can actually live without ANY homing options on F and J on my "casual" boards (and I do with Penumbra on my home PC), but for work boards I need bars or something very like them (off the cap centre, but some sort of "bump" that's easy to find and feel with fingertips).
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 24 October 2015, 05:40:22
Model M has bars.

Model F too, probably.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: unoab on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:03:20
Model F too, probably.

The few model F boards I have had no homing indicators at all.  So that includes both the AT/XT boards with single piece keycaps and the F122 with 2 piece caps, but I wouldn't put it past IBM to have many variations/revisions where one might have had some indicators.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 24 October 2015, 20:08:54
Model F too, probably.

The few model F boards I have had no homing indicators at all.  So that includes both the AT/XT boards with single piece keycaps and the F122 with 2 piece caps, but I wouldn't put it past IBM to have many variations/revisions where one might have had some indicators.

Oh, fair enough.

I understood that they used similar, if not exactly the same keycaps.  Perhaps not.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Karura on Sat, 24 October 2015, 23:43:27
This is insane. No one should care this much about bars, nips or scoops. And everyone is allowed their own preference.

That beings said, here is what I think: 

- The keyboard I'm using has scoops, I find that pretty pleasant.
- My stand alone numpad has a bar. I didn't even know that until I looked.
- I have nipples. Those are my favorite.  :cool:

At least the old thread had nipple jokes.
Awesome! We have nipple jokes again.

I have nipples and I'm a joke.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iocE7IJ.png)


confirmed?
How was that Google image search for "nipple"?

Joke's on you! That's his nipple he took from a selfie.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: E3E on Sun, 25 October 2015, 00:27:17
I have to admit, I'm enjoying rubbing the nibbles of my AT101's F & J keys right now. Oooh~ Yeah~
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 25 October 2015, 00:28:58
I have to admit, I'm enjoying rubbing the nibbles of my AT101's F & J keys right now. Oooh~ Yeah~

(http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/618/960/2960618.gif)

This is now a nipple gif thread.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: jerue on Sun, 25 October 2015, 02:17:28
I have to admit, I'm enjoying rubbing the nibbles of my AT101's F & J keys right now. Oooh~ Yeah~

Show Image
(http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/618/960/2960618.gif)


This is now a nipple gif thread.

but...but...I want more scoops :(

Two scoops actually. Just right.

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/db92689efababfcf6eba086ad24b869b/tumblr_nubmgftO6p1qfgwcpo1_500.jpg)

Three is just too many.

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--457W3YG7--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18k2cdqx9o0vjjpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 25 October 2015, 02:18:39
I have to admit, I'm enjoying rubbing the nibbles of my AT101's F & J keys right now. Oooh~ Yeah~

Show Image
(http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/618/960/2960618.gif)


This is now a nipple gif thread.

but...but...I want more scoops :(

Two scoops actually. Just right.

Show Image
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/db92689efababfcf6eba086ad24b869b/tumblr_nubmgftO6p1qfgwcpo1_500.jpg)


Three is just too many.

Show Image
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--457W3YG7--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18k2cdqx9o0vjjpg.jpg)


(http://media.giphy.com/media/ZgQB2hf363ti8/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: SamirD on Sun, 25 October 2015, 07:32:52
haha!  Where's a gif for bars!
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Kola93 on Sun, 25 October 2015, 21:25:18
Scoops are the best, no doubt.

They are exclusive and rare. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have typed on them, so I can understand if some people, not having used scoops for a good amount of time, to prefer the bars they are more familiar with.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 26 October 2015, 02:21:21
Scoops are the best, no doubt.

They are exclusive and rare. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have typed on them, so I can understand if some people, not having used scoops for a good amount of time, to prefer the bars they are more familiar with.

Do you need to type on a nipple to remember how bad it is?  :)
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 26 October 2015, 02:21:47
Erased message sorry.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: E3E on Mon, 26 October 2015, 03:39:01
They are exclusive and rare.

They are exclusive and rare.

They are exclusive and rare.

They are exclusive and rare.

Sometimes, you just want to be a shiba inu twinkie.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Jhonan on Mon, 26 October 2015, 11:17:58
Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I've ever used a keyboard that doesn't have bars...
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 17:47:29
Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I've ever used a keyboard that doesn't have bars...

You should try it sometime, much better :thumb:
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Karura on Mon, 26 October 2015, 17:53:00
Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I've ever used a keyboard that doesn't have bars...

I feel that's the case with the majority of people, that's why I'm a big advocate of scoops, and wish more people would try it out (for a period of time) so they can make their own informed judgement. :)

It's quite nice and smooth.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Jhonan on Mon, 26 October 2015, 18:44:15
Just put a set of dolch on my wifes board... it came with blank, scoop and deeper scoop, have the deeper scoop on there atm, and they're... interesting...
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Herothereu on Mon, 26 October 2015, 18:49:14
Who wouldn't like nips?
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Kola93 on Mon, 26 October 2015, 23:17:22
They are exclusive and rare.

They are exclusive and rare.

They are exclusive and rare.

They are exclusive and rare.

Sometimes, you just want to be a shiba inu twinkie.

Doges are the best! ^-^
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 27 October 2015, 04:24:54
HHKB has bars.

Have we finished now?
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: faycheung on Tue, 27 October 2015, 04:32:23
How about no nips, no scoops, no bars? Like the Model Fs?

Or am I just crazy?  :p
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 30 October 2015, 03:22:50
Nipple + bar + Horseshoe :eek:

(http://i.imgur.com/s7i1BeL.jpg)

From reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3qsubn/what_keycaps_are_these_interesting_j_and_f_keys/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3qsubn/what_keycaps_are_these_interesting_j_and_f_keys/)
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: SamirD on Fri, 30 October 2015, 09:08:28
Wow, and something just threw a horseshoe in the game, lol!
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: dutC4 on Fri, 30 October 2015, 09:13:53
 :blank:
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 30 October 2015, 10:15:51
skidata dont got bars  :'(

We've been told that the reason is that Skidata originally didn't have bars, but it is also true that it was only in 1800 layout and only got ISO.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 30 October 2015, 18:16:40
skidata dont got bars  :'(

We've been told that the reason is that Skidata originally didn't have bars, but it is also true that it was only in 1800 layout and only got ISO.

Thanks for you input
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: E3E on Fri, 30 October 2015, 20:34:41
Nipple + bar + Horseshoe :eek:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/s7i1BeL.jpg)


From reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3qsubn/what_keycaps_are_these_interesting_j_and_f_keys/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3qsubn/what_keycaps_are_these_interesting_j_and_f_keys/)

Horseshoe nipple bars are the best bars.  :-X
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: ideus on Fri, 30 October 2015, 20:36:40
Nipple + bar + Horseshoe :o

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/s7i1BeL.jpg)


From reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3qsubn/what_keycaps_are_these_interesting_j_and_f_keys/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3qsubn/what_keycaps_are_these_interesting_j_and_f_keys/)

Horseshoe nipple bars are the best bars.  :-X

Those appear to be rubber dome caps.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: E3E on Fri, 30 October 2015, 20:42:47
Nipple + bar + Horseshoe :o

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/s7i1BeL.jpg)


From reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3qsubn/what_keycaps_are_these_interesting_j_and_f_keys/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3qsubn/what_keycaps_are_these_interesting_j_and_f_keys/)

Horseshoe nipple bars are the best bars.  :-X

Those appear to be rubber dome caps.

Oh yeah? I was just poking fun at them! The only caps I have that have nipples are from Alps boards. Bars and Scoops are a little uncommon for Alps, at least on the quality caps, but they do exist. I've seen scoops on my Zenith, on the Wang 724, and on the IBM 5140. Sure there's a ton more that have them. Bars seem to have come a bit later. Nipples kind of converge with scoops.

I'm far less versed on the prevalence of these on OG cherry caps though, since Alps is more my territory.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: ideus on Fri, 30 October 2015, 20:44:38
Nipple + bar + Horseshoe :o

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/s7i1BeL.jpg)


From reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3qsubn/what_keycaps_are_these_interesting_j_and_f_keys/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3qsubn/what_keycaps_are_these_interesting_j_and_f_keys/)

Horseshoe nipple bars are the best bars.  :-X

Those appear to be rubber dome caps.

Oh yeah? I was just poking fun at them! The only caps I have that have nipples are from Alps boards. Bars and Scoops are a little uncommon for Alps, at least on the quality caps, but they do exist. I've seen scoops on my Zenith, on the Wang 724, and on the IBM 5140. Sure there's a ton more that have them. Bars seem to have come a bit later. Nipples kind of converge with scoops.

I'm far less versed on the prevalence of these on OG cherry caps though, since Alps is more my territory.

OG Cherry double shots are all with scoops.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Karura on Sat, 31 October 2015, 04:09:06
skidata dont got bars  :'(

We've been told that the reason is that Skidata originally didn't have bars, but it is also true that it was only in 1800 layout and only got ISO.

F and J with homing bars are on the very top of the list of things to be added to the SKIDATA+ Base Set once we reach 400 MOQ. :)
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 04 November 2015, 08:27:47
skidata dont got bars  :'(

We've been told that the reason is that Skidata originally didn't have bars, but it is also true that it was only in 1800 layout and only got ISO.

F and J with homing bars are on the very top of the list of things to be added to the SKIDATA+ Base Set once we reach 400 MOQ. :)

^^^I like this.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: ika on Wed, 04 November 2015, 08:31:50
skidata dont got bars  :'(

We've been told that the reason is that Skidata originally didn't have bars, but it is also true that it was only in 1800 layout and only got ISO.

F and J with homing bars are on the very top of the list of things to be added to the SKIDATA+ Base Set once we reach 400 MOQ. :)

be still my beating heart...
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: ideus on Wed, 04 November 2015, 13:57:43
skidata dont got bars  :'(

We've been told that the reason is that Skidata originally didn't have bars, but it is also true that it was only in 1800 layout and only got ISO.

F and J with homing bars are on the very top of the list of things to be added to the SKIDATA+ Base Set once we reach 400 MOQ. :)

I think I read somewhere that GMK does not have molds to double shot scooped home keys that include the bars as well.
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Post by: sek1ne on Wed, 04 November 2015, 18:59:24
skidata dont got bars  :'(

We've been told that the reason is that Skidata originally didn't have bars, but it is also true that it was only in 1800 layout and only got ISO.

F and J with homing bars are on the very top of the list of things to be added to the SKIDATA+ Base Set once we reach 400 MOQ. :)
Well this is good news.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 13 February 2016, 13:05:43
F and J.... They have bars.... The gmk uniqey god has finally spoken. All is settled. Everything is in order. Situation, very good.

http://uniqey.jr-hosting.de/individuelles-uniqey-keyboard/1/uniqey-keyboard-individuell-basisvariante?c=5
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Post by: Polymer on Mon, 15 February 2016, 03:28:05
F and J.... They have bars.... The gmk uniqey god has finally spoken. All is settled. Everything is in order. Situation, very good.

http://uniqey.jr-hosting.de/individuelles-uniqey-keyboard/1/uniqey-keyboard-individuell-basisvariante?c=5

When are you selling some of your bar'd F/J? :)
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Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 15 February 2016, 03:38:08
F and J.... They have bars.... The gmk uniqey god has finally spoken. All is settled. Everything is in order. Situation, very good.

http://uniqey.jr-hosting.de/individuelles-uniqey-keyboard/1/uniqey-keyboard-individuell-basisvariante?c=5

When are you selling some of your bar'd F/J? :)

Uniqey will do it!
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: Anastasia on Wed, 24 February 2016, 00:50:15
I like bars the best simply because I can find the home keys quicker.
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Post by: rowdy on Wed, 24 February 2016, 03:59:27
HHKB has bars.

/thread
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: xondat on Wed, 24 February 2016, 04:37:47
Bars are best.
Nipples are weird.
Scoops? I can't find them.
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Post by: appleonama on Wed, 24 February 2016, 05:15:25
scoops idk why but i like them
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Post by: ideus on Wed, 24 February 2016, 09:30:42
Can someone confirm if GMK has the molds to make scoops with bars FJ keys?
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 24 February 2016, 09:41:52
HHKB has bars.

/thread

The only flaw on an otherwise perfect board. 
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Post by: Hyde on Wed, 24 February 2016, 09:42:45
Bars are best.
Nipples are weird.
Scoops? I can't find them.

^ Basically this.
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Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 24 February 2016, 09:46:19
Use scoops for a week, so much easier to find than bars and far more comfortable.  Bars are for drinking, not key caps.
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Post by: skcheng on Wed, 24 February 2016, 10:00:15
Can someone confirm if GMK has the molds to make scoops with bars FJ keys?

 YES!!   Just one of the many reasons why I can't wait for my GMK Sky Dolch set to arrive!!   Scooped out tits for me!! 

https://www.originativeco.com/products/sky-dolch?variant=11176278725 (https://www.originativeco.com/products/sky-dolch?variant=11176278725)

Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: mobbo on Wed, 24 February 2016, 10:01:25
A wise man once said:

Scoops > Bars >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nipples
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: crickclackman on Wed, 24 February 2016, 11:11:56
HHKB has bars.

/thread
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 24 February 2016, 20:01:04
HHKB

/thread

/thread

/thread

Why isn't this working?

/thread

/thread
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Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 25 February 2016, 22:11:23
HHKB

/thread

/thread

/thread

Why isn't this working?

/thread

/thread

I know, how silly could people be to use something featured on such an awful board?
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Post by: demik on Fri, 26 February 2016, 00:35:00
HHKB

/thread

/thread

/thread

Why isn't this working?

/thread

/thread

I know, how silly could people be to use something featured on such an awful board?

you wanna see a dead body
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Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 26 February 2016, 00:35:32
HHKB

/thread

/thread

/thread

Why isn't this working?

/thread

/thread

I know, how silly could people be to use something featured on such an awful board?

you wanna see a dead body

see these hands boi
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: demik on Fri, 26 February 2016, 00:37:12
**** playa, les do dis
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Post by: romevi on Fri, 26 February 2016, 00:57:55
Redundant by now, but I prefer bars. Scoops are nice, but I find home row a lot faster with bars, which is what I need. Especially at work when I have to get to my keyboard to type something right away.
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Post by: MOZ on Fri, 26 February 2016, 07:50:39
A wise man once said:

Scoops > Bars >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nipples

QFT!
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Post by: romevi on Fri, 26 February 2016, 07:54:09
A wise man once said:

Scoops > Bars >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nipples

"once"
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Post by: Homenubbie on Fri, 26 February 2016, 08:45:55
What is wrong with nipples?

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 26 February 2016, 09:13:05
A wise man once said:

Scoops > Bars >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nipples

"once"

always
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Post by: azhdar on Fri, 26 February 2016, 11:09:19
bars are garbage.
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Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 26 February 2016, 11:26:11
bars are garbage.

Bars are for drinking.
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Post by: azhdar on Fri, 26 February 2016, 11:41:17
bars are garbage.

Bars are for drinking.

dear mr hoffmanmyster the moderator we are on the Keyboard keycaps subforum so please respect the ToS and speak about keyboards pls.
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Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 26 February 2016, 14:21:08
bars are garbage.

Bars are for drinking.

dear mr hoffmanmyster the moderator we are on the Keyboard keycaps subforum so please respect the ToS and speak about keyboards pls.

But bars are for drinking.  And nipples are for boobs.

I maintain two scoops for every keyboard.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: demik on Fri, 26 February 2016, 14:36:22
scoops are for ice cream, bars are what the hhkb raises in typing experience. nipples are to pinch.
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Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 26 February 2016, 14:38:44
scoops are for ice cream, bars are what the hhkb raises in typing experience. nipples are to pinch.

The bars instead of scoops on the HHKB are its only true flaw.
Title: Re: Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 27 February 2016, 01:24:57
you wanna see a dead body

see these hands boi

Pushups on fingertips - naow!

Then see hands.

A wise man once said:

Scoops > Bars >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nipples

QFT!

From alcohol comes wisdom, apparently.

But bars are for drinking.  And nipples are for boobs.

+1 each.

The bars instead of scoops on the HHKB are its only true flaw.

This one swims deeply in the seas of insanity.