Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [reloaded]

[Giorgio]

A new thread, since the old one has been locked... 
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0

[rowdy]

Did we need a new thread?

[Giorgio]

Until there will be a set sold
without an option for bars, the confrontation will continue.

[hwood34]

lmao

[Photekq]

Retard

[ImpendingxDoom]

Everyone has an opinion, and no one should be looked down on for their preference
/thread

[Sent]

Everyone has an opinion, and no one should be looked down on for their preference
/thread

Stop being logical and levelheaded. 

[E3E]

It's whatever, give me scoops, bars, or nips. I'll be fine, except when I'm not. Sometimes I just don't want nipples.

[Sifo]

maybe I'll use those scoops to clean up my cat's **** cuz that's what they're good for

[hwood34]

good **** Giorgio, thanks for making a new one. I'm sure it'll bring some great discussion.

[rowdy]

Just put all 3 on one keycap.

People will still complain.

[jerue]

Why does this thread have an exclamation mark for its message icon

Why am I even posting here

Do I need to make a stupid *** post so I can report myself and bother those who don't need bothering

Good going, this gets a thumbs down.

Really good discussion here.

If you try to scoop up the wrong nips you might get thrown behind bars. That's how I feel about this.


....and I'll show myself the door.

[ika]

why is this such a stupid combative topic? It's so damn simple. Sometimes I see posts in threads like this and then I see people bashing reddit for being stupid or some other stupid thing and I just sigh and leave for a bit.

[Oobly]

why is this such a stupid combative topic? It's so damn simple. Sometimes I see posts in threads like this and then I see people bashing reddit for being stupid or some other stupid thing and I just sigh and leave for a bit.

Agreed. Just give people the option. It's not such a great sacrifice to add two caps to a GB. There's no need to debate it at all, IMHO.

[azhdar]

It's just a matter of how Giorgio goes about in in IC and GB thread.

[Giorgio]

Considering that you can't ski without bars, and that you can't input data with a spoon, how probable is it that ski-data will reach the moq?

We all obviously - and sincerely - hope that the set reaches the moq, while crossing our fingers and touching the unsurprisingly embarrassed nipple on the number five.

[absyrd]

maybe I'll use those scoops to clean up my cat's **** cuz that's what they're good for

I find them very useful to hold my cocaine while I'm up all night gaming and coding.

[Giorgio]

maybe I'll use those scoops to clean up my cat's **** cuz that's what they're good for

I find them very useful to hold my cocaine while I'm up all night gaming and coding.

If you had two bars on your keyboard, at least once in a while you could see and touch how clear, simple and straight is the right path.

[absyrd]

maybe I'll use those scoops to clean up my cat's **** cuz that's what they're good for

I find them very useful to hold my cocaine while I'm up all night gaming and coding.

If you had two bars on your keyboard, at least once in a while you could see and touch how clear, simple and straight is the right path.

I have two lines on my keyboard. Is that the same as bars?

[hwood34]

Considering that you can't ski without bars, and that you can't input data with a spoon, how probable is it that ski-data will reach the moq?

Man, good thing you made a new thread so you could get all this good insight into the world

[jonathanyu]

are u fking serious

[BrewCaps]

Bars & brewcaps

[Giorgio]

Considering that you can't ski without bars, and that you can't input data with a spoon, how probable is it that ski-data will reach the moq?

Man, good thing you made a new thread so you could get all this good insight into the world

And you killed the old one because it was just old scoops?

[hwood34]

Considering that you can't ski without bars, and that you can't input data with a spoon, how probable is it that ski-data will reach the moq?

Man, good thing you made a new thread so you could get all this good insight into the world

And you killed the old one because it was just old scoops?

I killed the old one because there was no discussion left to have

[Oobly]

Time to [unload] the thread.

[HoffmanMyster]

This thread is super useful.    Wonderful insightful discussion here. 


Also, I fixed the topic icon. 

[hwood34]

This thread is super useful.    Wonderful insightful discussion here. 

Right? I'm so happy Giorgio made another thread, how short-sighted of me to inhibit the flow of well-thought-out discussion.

[njbair]

At least the old thread had nipple jokes.

[Polymer]

I think it is a good reminder that there are a significant number of users that would like to see this as either an option or some way to have it added..there were a few good ideas on how that could be achieved as well...

Such as, making it so if you hit a MOQ for 50 for any of the optional (all extras layouts would be optional) and those people would divide the remainder of the real 250 MOQ between themselves...so if you ended up with 125 people, you would have to buy 2 sets of the extra layout...but at the cost of 1 Euro per key (on average), if that means you're getting a 5 set extras layout for this and a 5 set extras layout for that, you might be paying 10 euro per...but you can do with it what you want (sell it later, use it for something else, etc). 

If the MOQ of 250 is hit naturally then everyone just gets one...if you don't have an even number you'll have to determine how it gets split up..but the point is, people would have to pay to get those keys made...

I'm sure it won't happen..because people are more interested in getting others to pay for the extras they want...but in the least we could apply that to bars...If 50 people went in and I had to pay 10 Euros to get 5 sets of bar keys, that's a no brainer if I really want it...

[Oobly]

I think it is a good reminder that there are a significant number of users that would like to see this as either an option or some way to have it added..there were a few good ideas on how that could be achieved as well...

Such as, making it so if you hit a MOQ for 50 for any of the optional (all extras layouts would be optional) and those people would divide the remainder of the real 250 MOQ between themselves...so if you ended up with 125 people, you would have to buy 2 sets of the extra layout...but at the cost of 1 Euro per key (on average), if that means you're getting a 5 set extras layout for this and a 5 set extras layout for that, you might be paying 10 euro per...but you can do with it what you want (sell it later, use it for something else, etc). 

If the MOQ of 250 is hit naturally then everyone just gets one...if you don't have an even number you'll have to determine how it gets split up..but the point is, people would have to pay to get those keys made...

I'm sure it won't happen..because people are more interested in getting others to pay for the extras they want...but in the least we could apply that to bars...If 50 people went in and I had to pay 10 Euros to get 5 sets of bar keys, that's a no brainer if I really want it...

If I were running a GMK GB I'd just include barred homing keys in the base kit. At the quantities sold it really is as little as $1.50 or so extra (or even less). Not worth all this fuss and bother and more useful to most and a lot less expensive than 1800 layout support for instance. I don't get why this concept is met with such resistance.

[Polymer]

I think it is a good reminder that there are a significant number of users that would like to see this as either an option or some way to have it added..there were a few good ideas on how that could be achieved as well...

Such as, making it so if you hit a MOQ for 50 for any of the optional (all extras layouts would be optional) and those people would divide the remainder of the real 250 MOQ between themselves...so if you ended up with 125 people, you would have to buy 2 sets of the extra layout...but at the cost of 1 Euro per key (on average), if that means you're getting a 5 set extras layout for this and a 5 set extras layout for that, you might be paying 10 euro per...but you can do with it what you want (sell it later, use it for something else, etc). 

If the MOQ of 250 is hit naturally then everyone just gets one...if you don't have an even number you'll have to determine how it gets split up..but the point is, people would have to pay to get those keys made...

I'm sure it won't happen..because people are more interested in getting others to pay for the extras they want...but in the least we could apply that to bars...If 50 people went in and I had to pay 10 Euros to get 5 sets of bar keys, that's a no brainer if I really want it...

If I were running a GMK GB I'd just include barred homing keys in the base kit. At the quantities sold it really is as little as $1.50 or so extra (or even less). Not worth all this fuss and bother and more useful to most and a lot less expensive than 1800 layout support for instance. I don't get why this concept is met with such resistance.

Agreed..I think that is what it the most bothersome part of it.

1800 support, for example, is a number of keys and the total number of users in the GB that actually can use it is really quite small.  People talked about the 1800 GB that was going on..but I think the guy was going to make a total of 40 or 50 which included users on the Korean Forums...which probably put GH at 15-20 in total...Lightsaver works w/ it so add a few more...but either way, I like the extra layout support but there are probably 30+ keys I won't ever use...and some of them aren't even layout keys, they might just be some really niche keys...like R2 Backspace, Stepped Control key...I mean, I like having those keys as extras but are those anymore important?

That's why I think having the MOQ split between those that want it is a good idea...instead of needing 250 you might set it at 50 and they end up splitting the costs and get the extra sets...That's putting your money where your mouth is....and if it is popular enough, you won't have to spend any extra at all (other than the costs of the keys).  If it isn't popular enough to get 50 then people really didn't want it that bad or want it at all (which means it shouldn't have been in the set). 

[jdcarpe]

Scoops vs. Bars vs. Nipples Discussion Thread [retarded]

[Puddsy]

scoops are ****

bars are ok

nubbins are alright

scoops are pretty tho

i'm with JD on this one

[absyrd]

HHKB has bars.

[Giorgio]

I will soon post a review of my favorite bars, describing in detail the thickness and size and positioning relative to the border. Also among bars, there are some terrible ones.

I know that you will not buy a new set of keycaps without first seeing my insightful review. I feel the pressure... in this economic situation, I can't hold hostage the keycaps market for too long. I will soon deliver.

[mogo]

Just use brobots on F and J.

[inanis]

This is insane. No one should care this much about bars, nips or scoops. And everyone is allowed their own preference.

That beings said, here is what I think: 

- The keyboard I'm using has scoops, I find that pretty pleasant.
- My stand alone numpad has a bar. I didn't even know that until I looked.
- I have nipples. Those are my favorite. 

At least the old thread had nipple jokes.

[njbair]

This is insane. No one should care this much about bars, nips or scoops. And everyone is allowed their own preference.

That beings said, here is what I think: 

- The keyboard I'm using has scoops, I find that pretty pleasant.
- My stand alone numpad has a bar. I didn't even know that until I looked.
- I have nipples. Those are my favorite. 

At least the old thread had nipple jokes.

Awesome! We have nipple jokes again.

[absyrd]

What if we had bars on F and J, scoops on D and K, and nips on A and ;? IC incoming. Equal opportunity GB.

[Giorgio]

Let's have braille stickers on each key

[Sent]

This is insane. No one should care this much about bars, nips or scoops. And everyone is allowed their own preference.

That beings said, here is what I think: 

- The keyboard I'm using has scoops, I find that pretty pleasant.
- My stand alone numpad has a bar. I didn't even know that until I looked.
- I have nipples. Those are my favorite. 

Nipples are indeed pretty awesome.

[jonathanyu]

Let's have braille stickers on each key

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are you really that stupid or you are trolling. i recommend you pull off the F and J keycaps and type directly on the switches. It is most noticeable.

[Giorgio]

Let's have braille stickers on each key

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are you really that stupid or you are trolling. i recommend you pull off the F and J keycaps and type directly on the switches. It is most noticeable.

You are that stupid. That's not a scoop.

[Karura]

I'm Karura, and this is my favourite thread on the internet. [retarded as ****]

[Karura]

Serious response:

This AND the last thread is no longer about productive discussion regarding our subjective opinions, and deteriorated to retarded trolling and ****posts.

BUT hey, sometimes people gotta voice their genius opinions like this one:

Scoops are made for feminine fingers.
They feel unnaturally small and uncomfortable, when compared to the ergonomically correct shape of the other gmk keycaps.

[Polymer]

That's a bit inappropriate don't you think?

The thread has been very important....It has obviously highlighted that there are a good portion of users that would want bars...it is more than a legitimate option in these GBs...I think without talking about it, people would still say "you're the only one that wants them..are you going to pay for them all?"...obviously that is NOT true...

[Giorgio]

Serious response:

This AND the last thread is no longer about productive discussion regarding our subjective opinions, and deteriorated to retarded trolling and ****posts.

BUT hey, sometimes people gotta voice their genius opinions like this one:

Scoops are made for feminine fingers.
They feel unnaturally small and uncomfortable, when compared to the ergonomically correct shape of the other gmk keycaps.

LOL I don't even know if you exist or not. Still you take it so personally. Evidently it takes so little to hurt your ego.
Can I think that scoops are too little for my fingers or not?
Am I free to say it? Please stop whining, offending people, and don't message me in private again. Thank you very much.

[hwood34]

That's a bit inappropriate don't you think?

The thread has been very important....It has obviously highlighted that there are a good portion of users that would want bars...it is more than a legitimate option in these GBs...I think without talking about it, people would still say "you're the only one that wants them..are you going to pay for them all?"...obviously that is NOT true...

The first page or so of the last thread was some useful discussion. Anything after that has been useless ****posting.

Serious response:

This AND the last thread is no longer about productive discussion regarding our subjective opinions, and deteriorated to retarded trolling and ****posts.

BUT hey, sometimes people gotta voice their genius opinions like this one:

Scoops are made for feminine fingers.
They feel unnaturally small and uncomfortable, when compared to the ergonomically correct shape of the other gmk keycaps.

LOL I don't even know if you exist or not. Still you take it so personally. Evidently it takes so little to hurt your ego.
Can I think that scoops are too little for my fingers or not?
Am I free to say it? Please stop whining, offending people, and don't message me in private again. Thank you very much.

You're free to say whatever you want, and we're free to call this thread useless and ****ing idiotic

[Giorgio]

Self fulfilling prophecies, where masochistic people ****post a thread only to make you notice that it is full of **** posts.

[Flyersfan1]

Self fulfilling prophecies, where masochistic people ****post a thread only to make you notice that it is full of **** posts.

pot meet kettle