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Title: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Fri, 12 April 2019, 00:46:50
(https://i.imgur.com/JtWtz10.jpg)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96650.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96650.0)

Overview
Recently saw someone with a F62-PE IRL, CNC'd by ALF, and very bumped out that I didn't get into this hobby sooner. Well, I got in touch with the guy behind ALF (Xuxian), and he told me he could make a batch of F62-PE, with an MOQ of 20, which would cost $200 just for the case EDIT: the sale price is completely the same as before, price and everything. Communication issue.

Details
Features are listed in original link above (minus details about PCB), and here I would add a few things that was told to me by Xuxian:

To share your interest for this GB, please comment below or fill out this form https://forms.gle/kusXH8SEunu8fFEb8 (https://forms.gle/kusXH8SEunu8fFEb8)

Who's running this
I am a programmer, with two kids, situated in Hong Kong, and started using mechs for about 3 years now. Started to get serious this year and now settled on a 30g capacitative keyboard...for now. I realised that the coolest keyboards are all GBs and limited in quantity. So, I got in touch with some manufacturers and see if they can re-run some stuff. Anyways, if this run is successful I can probably do this part time and make pretty keyboards a bit more accessible. Cheers.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: x9Memoriez on Fri, 12 April 2019, 02:03:18
200usd sounds great for a 4kg case, any clue of shipping costs?
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Fri, 12 April 2019, 03:11:44
Best rate I can find with reasonable time would be about 50 dollars, keeping shipping weight at 5KG, and shipping time from HK to US would take about a week. For other shipments I am used to the price would be 70, which is not great but I haven't got a bad shipment from them.

** Edit: OK, the Mighty Google answered - someone can ship it for $8/KG. So that's about 10 dollar difference right there.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: dantambok on Fri, 12 April 2019, 03:47:44
I wonder how the original GB participants feel about the pricing on this since they paid much higher (right?)
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Fri, 12 April 2019, 04:10:32
Nope, turns out it's my communication issue with him. Price and kit is completely the same as before. Sorry.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: dantambok on Fri, 12 April 2019, 04:54:41
Ah well that makes sense. Thank you for clarifying!
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: piercejenkins on Fri, 12 April 2019, 06:56:06
Will this accept universal pcb and is the connector for the cable going to be in the middle again? Most are on the left side.  I’ve wanted this SO BAD!!! TAKE MY MONEY!!!!

How much is the cerakote option?
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:08:57
Base on past runs from various sites, my estimates will be about 100+. Not gonna be cheap. If you want to diy cerakote you will need to bank roll some tools and waste some pieces. I was looking at some tutorials on YT but gave that up when someone shared the sweat and skill and time you have to put in.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:13:43
According to the last GB universal 60% is a no go. However, xuxian did tell me those are standard tray mount points. So...I am not sure. I can try buying a dz60 and borrow my friend's F62-PE

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: piercejenkins on Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:19:16
I would love to put xd75re I’m this and call it endgame!! I really hope a standard 60% pcb with cable on the left works for this. On the modern dasher d60 they included a small daughter board to use as an extension to reach the hole for the cable.

I would be very interested to know if the dz60 works in this case!!
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: befbef on Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:34:24
According to the last GB universal 60% is a no go. However, xuxian did tell me those are standard tray mount points. So...I am not sure. I can try buying a dz60 and borrow my friend's F62-PE

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afaik the first run was universal but for the second the standoff placement was changed.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: piercejenkins on Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:35:59
Would it be possible to make this round universal?
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:49:03
Got a definitive answer. No. PCB is totally custom.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: piercejenkins on Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:56:26
So if we buy a case alone how can we make it work if the pcb required is custom?
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: vicissitude on Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:58:45
interested.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: whalematrontron on Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:59:47
So if we buy a case alone how can we make it work if the pcb required is custom?

I do not believe you can buy the case alone - that seems to have been a communication error. It should be 390USD for the case + PCB + plate
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: piercejenkins on Fri, 12 April 2019, 08:05:23
So if we buy a case alone how can we make it work if the pcb required is custom?

I do not believe you can buy the case alone - that seems to have been a communication error. It should be 390USD for the case + PCB + plate

Well that sucks. I was hoping to use my own pcb.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: beekey on Fri, 12 April 2019, 08:09:06
The second run was with a custom PCB, which lacked the normal USB connector. There is not much space below the PCB. You solder a connector to the PCB.

I would be interested to get another PCB, as the last time they did not send me my second PCB I ordered. Will PCB only be on option?

In general this is a very nice case. Love it. Heavy as ****.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Fri, 12 April 2019, 08:12:28
Yes. The PCB has the USB port in the middle of the case. Don't think it would be compatible with other boards

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: TieuNgu on Fri, 12 April 2019, 10:46:28
The second run was with a custom PCB, which lacked the normal USB connector. There is not much space below the PCB. You solder a connector to the PCB.

I would be interested to get another PCB, as the last time they did not send me my second PCB I ordered. Will PCB only be on option?

In general this is a very nice case. Love it. Heavy as ****.

I second this. Have the board myself, the PCB was a custom DC60 which you have to connect to a daughter board for type-C connector  so normal PCB will not work.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Sythyn on Fri, 12 April 2019, 20:20:44
Hyped as hell! Thanks for doing this mate.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyle88 on Sat, 13 April 2019, 00:17:20
Omg I have wanted this ever since I found the last GB a week after it closed! But now I have an order placed for CA66 and g60 so don't think I can afford this too

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: macclack on Sat, 13 April 2019, 00:22:49
I'm definitely interested in this. I've always wanted this case and am excited that there could be a re-run. I'll be watching this closely.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: 8six753o9 on Sat, 13 April 2019, 01:12:23
  • The keyboard can be shipped in 60 days
I don’t want to sound rude or anything but I just want to make people aware. The last two ALF group buys I was in, we were told that the boards will be shipped in 60 days, one of which only had 20 units.  Today (7 months later), there are still people that haven’t received their boards yet. There is still 2 other ALF group buys running (total of 4) and haven’t completed yet but somehow there is time for another interest check with a statement that it will be shipped in 60 days?
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 13 April 2019, 01:52:50
interested for sure but my trust in alf is low
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Jedi on Sat, 13 April 2019, 04:59:05
Interested as well, will it be possible to include a option for a second pcb?
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Sat, 13 April 2019, 08:01:05
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Is this gap between the top and bottom case part of the design, or is the case just not screwed down for people to look inside?
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Sat, 13 April 2019, 08:33:46
Part of the design, yes. I saw a lot of pics on Google with that gap.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Sat, 13 April 2019, 08:48:08
For a full on look of that side gap, have a look at this Chinese post: https://m.zfrontier.com/post/detail/4813

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Sat, 13 April 2019, 17:57:35
Tentatively interested, but also cautious about timelines given the number of GBs ALF is currently undertaking.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Sat, 13 April 2019, 18:28:54
Well, if you guys are not positive about the timeline I can take the risk and buy in 20 of these and just do a run of retail. But cerakoted options would probably only be available to one or two buyers because of the risk. I will have to buy them in raw metal form and that's a risk that I can only take so much of.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: RETURNISO on Sat, 13 April 2019, 19:46:37
Nice price lol saw the "real" price ^-^ , still wanna take one, any proper pics with cherry caps on it? found some (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/afgtjz/kishsaver_f62pe/) :)


Edit.

i dont know if it s possible, but a small update that would be neat though is adding this to the center standoff

(https://www.gridishere.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/gird-600-PCB-prototype01-sv.jpg)

(https://www.gridishere.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/ACER-PE320QK-Open-Box-34.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: beekey on Sun, 14 April 2019, 13:47:23
  • The keyboard can be shipped in 60 days
I don’t want to sound rude or anything but I just want to make people aware. The last two ALF group buys I was in, we were told that the boards will be shipped in 60 days, one of which only had 20 units.  Today (7 months later), there are still people that haven’t received their boards yet. There is still 2 other ALF group buys running (total of 4) and haven’t completed yet but somehow there is time for another interest check with a statement that it will be shipped in 60 days?
I second that. I like the case a lot, but communication and incomplete shipping was not so great. Took more than a month to figure out that they do not have a second PCB to ship to me. Got a refund, but took ages. Would have preferred the PCB as this is a risk with these custom case jobs. Maybe desoldering the connector from a normal 60% and rewiring would be an option in case of PCB failure.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyd on Mon, 15 April 2019, 03:30:15
I would love to pic one up if the GB gets going, but I'd need for it to be a universal traymount (a daughter-board plug for usb-mini/micro/c or something to let me use my preferred pcb) or moving the port over).  I know it might not be all too possible, but an offering in beige as opposed to black would have me in love, but I'd settle for black if it is a universal traymount.   

If this is going to be limited to a specific pcb (one I've seen a few fail in batches of ~20 before) I'm gonna have to give this a no-go. 
Best of luck running this GB, and like I said if you can get a universal traymount I will gladly pick one up.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: piercejenkins on Mon, 15 April 2019, 06:46:33
I would love to pic one up if the GB gets going, but I'd need for it to be a universal traymount (a daughter-board plug for usb-mini/micro/c or something to let me use my preferred pcb) or moving the port over).  I know it might not be all too possible, but an offering in beige as opposed to black would have me in love, but I'd settle for black if it is a universal traymount.   

If this is going to be limited to a specific pcb (one I've seen a few fail in batches of ~20 before) I'm gonna have to give this a no-go. 
Best of luck running this GB, and like I said if you can get a universal traymount I will gladly pick one up.

I second this. This is an insta-buy if you manage to make it universal tray mount. I think there is a beige option for cerakote called desert sand.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Mon, 15 April 2019, 06:48:49
Universal probably not. Beige yes if you pay another good chunk of money

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyd on Mon, 15 April 2019, 10:58:01
I second this. This is an insta-buy if you manage to make it universal tray mount. I think there is a beige option for cerakote called desert sand.

I was unaware that cerakote colors were available online  ;D It had always just been a bit of a black box for me.  There's a color called "H-142 Light Sand"  that would look perfect!  Thanks for giving me the hint.

Universal probably not. Beige yes if you pay another good chunk of money

First of all, how much would we be talking here for the cerakote?

 And if there is no possible way to get this into a universal case in any way, then I'm afraid I'm gonna have to let it pass me by.  I'm not adverse to soldering and working on it to get it to work, but I'd need to know if something like that was even possible.  If the daughter board could be made to accept a generic header that I could attach to a custom made pcb that might be good enough to make me interested.  Something like how Hasu's controller for the Leopold FC660C works.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: equalunique on Mon, 15 April 2019, 14:22:34
I would love to put xd75re I’m this and call it endgame!! I really hope a standard 60% pcb with cable on the left works for this. On the modern dasher d60 they included a small daughter board to use as an extension to reach the hole for the cable.

I would be very interested to know if the dz60 works in this case!!
Same here. XD75re or maybe even Boardwalk PCB. Depends on the mounting options & USB placement.

Universal support (for the above PCBs) is a must for me, otherwise this is a no go.

If all else fails, CAD files/details so that a custom PCB/plate can be constructed. I can cut my own plates easily & have folks who can help me fab a PCB as long as a design is available.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: TieuNgu on Mon, 15 April 2019, 19:30:20
Also if you could do a WKL version, I would pick up one as well :D
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyle88 on Mon, 15 April 2019, 19:44:04
Everyone here realises that this guy isn't re-designing this board right? He simply wants to do a re-run, so I presume modifications are out of the picture, as that would require design, prototyping, and such, which I don't think is the idea here

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Mon, 15 April 2019, 19:47:02
Correct. Someone got the right idea.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: piercejenkins on Mon, 15 April 2019, 20:43:23
Correct. Someone got the right idea.

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Well, yeah. Re-run the first round which was universal. We’re not asking him to invent a new board.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Mon, 15 April 2019, 20:51:54
I can ask about it. Not extremely positive tho

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: lanyusea on Mon, 15 April 2019, 21:29:47
again, will join if there is HHKB choice
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Mon, 15 April 2019, 22:38:26
OK people, here's the deal - if you want R1, you lose the RGB on the top left corner, and the internal wiring from board to exit you have to deal with yourself. Board can be universal though. If anyone has an R1, please voice if there is enough space in the case to plug the USB C/mini port straight to the exit at the back of the keyboard or if you have to solder the USB cable in. I will do some research and see if there is any picture that would shed some light on this matter.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyd on Tue, 16 April 2019, 11:03:37
OK people, here's the deal - if you want R1, you lose the RGB on the top left corner, and the internal wiring from board to exit you have to deal with yourself. Board can be universal though. If anyone has an R1, please voice if there is enough space in the case to plug the USB C/mini port straight to the exit at the back of the keyboard or if you have to solder the USB cable in. I will do some research and see if there is any picture that would shed some light on this matter.

Thank you so much!
Hopefully we'll get something about how other people from the R1 buy ran the cable.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Tue, 16 April 2019, 11:10:35
From what I see it's an attached cable. As for how it's actually connected (soldered vs plugged in inside the case), I will have to ask

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Tue, 16 April 2019, 11:19:29
Oh, and one more thing. I put in the down payments already for 20 keyboards. If any of you are serious about having an R1 or cerakoated keyboard, please DM me. Cerakoate process got a rough quote of 80 dollars. Those will arrive to Hong Kong with no anodization and processed by the vendor. The rest of them will be ordered with half black and half gray in R2 spec.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: RETURNISO on Tue, 16 April 2019, 18:31:37
Oh, and one more thing. I put in the down payments already for 20 keyboards. If any of you are serious about having an R1 or cerakoated keyboard, please DM me. Cerakoate process got a rough quote of 80 dollars. Those will arrive to Hong Kong with no anodization and processed by the vendor. The rest of them will be ordered with half black and half gray in R2 spec.

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Cool, sorry I am just a little confused about R1 vs R2 details.

I am right that,

1. PCB will be the custom dc60 PCB. USB etc is fixed and the NCS stuff works out of the box? And is flashed with QMK?
2. Layouts and plate option is still this https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96650.msg2640362#msg2640362 ?
3. The grey you mention is the "titanium grey" option from R1? Do you have any pics?
4. Extra PCB n plate options to buy with it?  :)
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: 1corazon on Fri, 19 April 2019, 01:21:29
I NEED THIS PLEASE EMAIL ME ONCE THIS IS AVAILABLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 19 April 2019, 01:45:40
I NEED THIS PLEASE EMAIL ME ONCE THIS IS AVAILABLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: 1corazon on Tue, 30 April 2019, 06:37:40
I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE PLEASE TAKE AL MY MONEY !!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyle88 on Tue, 30 April 2019, 07:32:17
As much as I want this, reading about the PCB quality (poorly soldered MCU, missing diodes) from the last GB is a bit worrying. Do you know who is making the PCB?

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Xynerorias on Wed, 01 May 2019, 11:06:23
^^^^^
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyle88 on Wed, 01 May 2019, 17:53:31
Also worth mentioning: AFL has just been put in the spotlight for reproducing some past boards without permission from the original designer. The fakes were not produced with the same QC as the originals and now there is some rather public anger being directed at him. I have also read on another GB thread that he has said he will quit, so I'm not even sure ALF will continue to operate - I hope they do because I'm in on the G60 GB which is supposed to be machined by them

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: petamva on Fri, 03 May 2019, 00:43:17
i 've decided to trade/sell my f62pe. hit me up here or reddit u/petamva
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyle88 on Fri, 03 May 2019, 00:54:28
i 've decided to trade/sell my f62pe. hit me up here or reddit u/petamva
What boards are you interested in? I am considering selling my CA66 when it arrives (white, extra BT PCB, extra brass plate, titanium CA66 logo)

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: petamva on Fri, 03 May 2019, 01:00:12
i 've decided to trade/sell my f62pe. hit me up here or reddit u/petamva
What boards are you interested in? I am considering selling my CA66 when it arrives (white, extra BT PCB, extra brass plate, titanium CA66 logo)

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pm in reddit u/petamva
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Thu, 16 May 2019, 01:04:17
Hi all, after all the drama going on with Alf, this GB is gonna happen. Since confidence is low for the buy, I decided to take the risk and paid the down payment for only 20 keebs. Colors are as follows:

Black x 13
White x 5
Non-anodized ones for custom cerakote x 2

These will all be R2 ones, so NO custom PCB and fixed layout. Shipping date should be expected in August, while cerakote will take extra time. I will share progress once it started and I will create a quick website for payment.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 16 May 2019, 01:06:34
Hi all, after all the drama going on with Alf, this GB is gonna happen. Since confidence is low for the buy, I decided to take the risk and paid the down payment for only 20 keebs. Colors are as follows:

Black x 13
White x 5
Non-anodized ones for custom cerakote x 2

These will all be R2 ones, so NO custom PCB and fixed layout. Shipping date should be expected in August, while cerakote will take extra time. I will share progress once it started and I will create a quick website for payment.

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I thought ALF was exiting?
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Thu, 16 May 2019, 01:09:56
Yes. I paid the down payment before he posted the quit statement so he will complete my order.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyle88 on Thu, 16 May 2019, 01:11:15
Hi all, after all the drama going on with Alf, this GB is gonna happen. Since confidence is low for the buy, I decided to take the risk and paid the down payment for only 20 keebs. Colors are as follows:

Black x 13
White x 5
Non-anodized ones for custom cerakote x 2

These will all be R2 ones, so NO custom PCB and fixed layout. Shipping date should be expected in August, while cerakote will take extra time. I will share progress once it started and I will create a quick website for payment.

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I thought ALF was exiting?
He's moved to a new factory *edit* see posts in the G60 GB. - specifically the discord channel

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 16 May 2019, 01:12:58
Hi all, after all the drama going on with Alf, this GB is gonna happen. Since confidence is low for the buy, I decided to take the risk and paid the down payment for only 20 keebs. Colors are as follows:

Black x 13
White x 5
Non-anodized ones for custom cerakote x 2

These will all be R2 ones, so NO custom PCB and fixed layout. Shipping date should be expected in August, while cerakote will take extra time. I will share progress once it started and I will create a quick website for payment.

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I thought ALF was exiting?
He's moved to a new factory *edit* see posts in the G60 GB. - specifically the discord channel

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:thinking:
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Thu, 16 May 2019, 01:15:14
The TL;DR version is that he won't be doing the Alf branded KB anymore but the manufacturing business is gonna continue.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 16 May 2019, 01:20:40
The TL;DR version is that he won't be doing the Alf branded KB anymore but the manufacturing business is gonna continue.

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this is spicy
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyle88 on Thu, 16 May 2019, 01:29:03
The TL;DR version is that he won't be doing the Alf branded KB anymore but the manufacturing business is gonna continue.

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this is spicy
The whole situation is spicy AF. I'm in the G60 GB and what he did with those boards he made for friends without permission from the designer is really ****ty, but tbh, I just want my G60 and as long as the quality remains, I'm not fussed.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Thu, 16 May 2019, 01:30:33
Me too. The whole reason I am doing this, including paying all that money up front, is that I want this myself

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: vewy_nice on Thu, 16 May 2019, 11:11:02
This is my first time browsing the IC's for a while... Will this be a raffle style, or FCFS for the 20?
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Thu, 16 May 2019, 11:33:48
Probably FCFS

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: floatingbear on Tue, 23 July 2019, 10:59:36
please include the ISO option (pcb & plate) as well  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Wed, 24 July 2019, 08:05:43
Hi, ISO will be supported.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyle88 on Thu, 25 July 2019, 07:27:36
Has production begun?
Edit: and how many spots left?

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Thu, 25 July 2019, 07:37:56
Production should start next week and I was told the boards should be done in a week or two. There are only twenty boards. I am hoping to get cerakote in if there are interest, but it will be more expensive then I thought it would be. Expect the cerakote to cost more than 130. Other than that there will only be black and white, only V2 of F62, and there will be a handling fee of 15 dollars. So far 38 people responded to the IC and it will be first come first served. I asked to get 5 more PCB for past F62 V2 buyers if they want it. After this run, I will be doing an IC for my first ever design. Keep your eyes peeled :)

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Thu, 25 July 2019, 07:39:16
DM will be sent to those who filled up an IC and GB will be opened to public after a week, FYI.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: beekey on Thu, 25 July 2019, 13:45:51
Production should start next week and I was told the boards should be done in a week or two. There are only twenty boards. I am hoping to get cerakote in if there are interest, but it will be more expensive then I thought it would be. Expect the cerakote to cost more than 130. Other than that there will only be black and white, only V2 of F62, and there will be a handling fee of 15 dollars. So far 38 people responded to the IC and it will be first come first served. I asked to get 5 more PCB for past F62 V2 buyers if they want it. After this run, I will be doing an IC for my first ever design. Keep your eyes peeled :)

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Would also be interested in PCB.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Fri, 02 August 2019, 08:07:16
Hi all, I launched an pre GB order form. Please find it here: https://forms.gle/qdJt5nRbE6DyrqWy6

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: beekey on Fri, 02 August 2019, 10:37:08
Would also love a PCB only.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Fri, 02 August 2019, 21:12:17
Yes, you can have the PCB only option. Just pay for it and it will come in a simple protected card box.

Also, GB thread is under approval by the mods. Lemme know if you have questions.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: KyleUK on Sun, 11 August 2019, 04:49:27
Off-topic but it's disgusting Alf is still manufacturing new boards when other group buys are either awaiting replacement parts or not been fulfilled at all with people hundreds out of pocket. I will not be supporting this and neither should anyone else.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Sun, 11 August 2019, 04:59:39
Off-topic but it's disgusting Alf is still manufacturing new boards when other group buys are either awaiting replacement parts or not been fulfilled at all with people hundreds out of pocket. I will not be supporting this and neither should anyone else.
I could talk to the manufacturer. DM me with details and I will see what I can do

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyle88 on Sun, 11 August 2019, 05:09:20
Off-topic but it's disgusting Alf is still manufacturing new boards when other group buys are either awaiting replacement parts or not been fulfilled at all with people hundreds out of pocket. I will not be supporting this and neither should anyone else.
Which GB are you referring to? I heard about Alf reproducing certain board that he shouldn't have, but I haven't heard about any incomplete GBs?

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: KyleUK on Sun, 11 August 2019, 05:35:08
Off-topic but it's disgusting Alf is still manufacturing new boards when other group buys are either awaiting replacement parts or not been fulfilled at all with people hundreds out of pocket. I will not be supporting this and neither should anyone else.
Which GB are you referring to? I heard about Alf reproducing certain board that he shouldn't have, but I haven't heard about any incomplete GBs?

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The Alf x1.1. speaking to f5runner about it in PM at the moment. It had a lot of delays for such a small GB which is always a risk with any GB so that's fine. It was when it come to replacement brass as most people received it scratched first time, so Alf was sending new ones. I know a couple of people received it but the majority didn't. There's one guy who didn't receive his board at all so feel pretty bad for him. With just me personally I had trouble with the PCB but it was around the time all the news about faking boards was coming out so didn't get a resolution on that, I was happy to pay for another PCB at that point.
Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyle88 on Sun, 11 August 2019, 05:41:51
Off-topic but it's disgusting Alf is still manufacturing new boards when other group buys are either awaiting replacement parts or not been fulfilled at all with people hundreds out of pocket. I will not be supporting this and neither should anyone else.
Which GB are you referring to? I heard about Alf reproducing certain board that he shouldn't have, but I haven't heard about any incomplete GBs?

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The Alf x1.1. speaking to f5runner about it in PM at the moment. It had a lot of delays for such a small GB which is always a risk with any GB so that's fine. It was when it come to replacement brass as most people received it scratched first time, so Alf was sending new ones. I know a couple of people received it but the majority didn't. There's one guy who didn't receive his board at all so feel pretty bad for him. With just me personally I had trouble with the PCB but it was around the time all the news about faking boards was coming out so didn't get a resolution on that, I was happy to pay for another PCB at that point.
Was that run directly by Alf or was a designer the OP? I ask because I'm currently in the G60 GB and PayPal buyer protection runs out in 4 days for me

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Sun, 11 August 2019, 05:43:48
Woops, didn't read it thorough enough.

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: f5runner on Sun, 11 August 2019, 05:50:51
For G60, it will start shipping before F62, so before end of August as well. It was delayed because CNC programmer made a mistake and the batch has to be redone. Guy lost a good amount of money. Just so you know, I am just helping whenever I can. Not the official mouth piece for them

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: Lyle88 on Sun, 11 August 2019, 06:04:37
For G60, it will start shipping before F62, so before end of August as well. It was delayed because CNC programmer made a mistake and the batch has to be redone. Guy lost a good amount of money. Just so you know, I am just helping whenever I can. Not the official mouth piece for them

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Yeah I understand entirely. I also know that a bunch of the WKL case tops got messed up. I'm just a little apprehensive since the last GB I joined also had 2 poorly cut plates (luckily I have been refunded for one and a replacement is on the way for the second). After reading about the x1.1 GB I'm a little worried about the after sales care

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Title: Re: [IC] F62-PE keyboard case by Alf re-run
Post by: KyleUK on Sun, 11 August 2019, 06:52:30
F5runner has offered to contact Alf on my behalf. I'm also contacting others involved with him on group buys. A manufacturer should not be continuing until previous orders are fulfilled - fact.

Its dishonest and theft of people's money. He should not be getting any more business until current group buys are resolved. Especially when there are other manufacturers now in the market who are doing good work. Why this isn't getting more attention is beyond me. I'm also completely overlooking the fact that he faked boards, like it wasn't bad enough he couldn't fulfill his own designs.