[IC] GMK Coniferous R2 - Back in IC

[kevinzavier]

In addition to gray i mean

[Allo]

Would you consider running alternate alphas in white instead of beige?

[amnesia0287]

Would you consider running alternate alphas in white instead of beige?

Wai would you wanna ruin the set like that?

TBH I’m kinda hoping the mods become BR1 instead of N9 to complete the look. It’s supposed to look like a tree. That’s where the name comes from lol.

[Allo]

Would you consider running alternate alphas in white instead of beige?

Wai would you wanna ruin the set like that?

TBH I’m kinda hoping the mods become BR1 instead of N9 to complete the look. It’s supposed to look like a tree. That’s where the name comes from lol.

I have R1. I like it, I just think it would look even better with white alphas.

[kevinzavier]

Yea donut cables, can you consider just br1 or a dark brown for mods?

[ojrask]

I would keep the colors as is, looks real birchy to me.

[donutcat]

The main point of choosing N9 was A) pine trees specifically develop bark that tends more towards greyish/black than brown

and B) I didn't particularly like BR1 in combination with N7 and U9. 

[kevinzavier]

Whats the timeline for this gb

[midnight2903]

Definitely interested. Just waiting for timeline now I suppose.

[donutcat]

The timeline isn't currently very solid. I've got a bunch of stuff lined up, and I want to make this happen when there's enough of a lull to really give it the time and attention it needs.

[klaaz0r]

The timeline isn't currently very solid. I've got a bunch of stuff lined up, and I want to make this happen when there's enough of a lull to really give it the time and attention it needs.

Q2, Q3 or later?

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[donutcat]

Gotta get some hype flowing.

Q2, Q3 or later?

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Not completely sure. I'm working on pushing NGE and Heck-keys at the moment, proxying Phantom, Glow, and Burgundy, and maybe trying to get some work in on PCB, so trying to fit it in might be a bit tricky.

I'm also tossing around the idea of a U9 mods kit as well to turn the set monotone, any thoughts on that from anyone?

[midnight2903]

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Gotta get some hype flowing.

Q2, Q3 or later?

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Not completely sure. I'm working on pushing NGE and Heck-keys at the moment, proxying Phantom, Glow, and Burgundy, and maybe trying to get some work in on PCB, so trying to fit it in might be a bit tricky.

I'm also tossing around the idea of a U9 mods kit as well to turn the set monotone, any thoughts on that from anyone?

Will those be doubleshot sublegends?

[jihadu]

Yup. The sublegends first appeared with GMK Laser

[klaaz0r]

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Gotta get some hype flowing.

Q2, Q3 or later?

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Not completely sure. I'm working on pushing NGE and Heck-keys at the moment, proxying Phantom, Glow, and Burgundy, and maybe trying to get some work in on PCB, so trying to fit it in might be a bit tricky.

I'm also tossing around the idea of a U9 mods kit as well to turn the set monotone, any thoughts on that from anyone?

could you get a render with the green rama M60-A? that is my goal with these caps and it will probably hype the kit a lot!

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[jihadu]

renders are extremely time consuming and donut said his hands are full atm. As for which boards to render, that will be up to donut, as you need to create the models for the keyboard and rendering a true-to-form m60 might require a lot of time(depending on what level of complexity he is aiming for)

[klaaz0r]

renders are extremely time consuming and donut said his hands are full atm. As for which boards to render, that will be up to donut, as you need to create the models for the keyboard and rendering a true-to-form m60 might require a lot of time(depending on what level of complexity he is aiming for)

I understand, but he also wanted some hype

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[donutcat]

Don't worry, I have a feeling you'll see some m60 renders before you know it 

[jihadu]

Don't worry, I have a feeling you'll see some m60 renders before you know it 

hype

[donutcat]

Poll to see if people are interested in a U9 mods kit for the set since someone once mentioned that N7/U9 monotone would be cool https://www.strawpoll.me/15375947

[donutcat]

could you get a render with the green rama M60-A? that is my goal with these caps and it will probably hype the kit a lot!

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Ask and ye shall receive, courtesy as always of amnesia0287 who continues doing a ballin job of rendering sets for me.

[midnight2903]

could you get a render with the green rama M60-A? that is my goal with these caps and it will probably hype the kit a lot!

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Ask and ye shall receive, courtesy as always of amnesia0287 who continues doing a ballin job of rendering sets for me.

That looks more grey than green, but I love it!

[rmendis]

I am loving this

[amnesia0287]

could you get a render with the green rama M60-A? that is my goal with these caps and it will probably hype the kit a lot!

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Ask and ye shall receive, courtesy as always of amnesia0287 who continues doing a ballin job of rendering sets for me.

That looks more grey than green, but I love it!

I dunno, as far as I'm aware RAMA hasn't posted pantones, so I just went with the color I had available and guessed what seemed close. But this seems pretty close to me, this is the same exact case color as the render donut posted head on (i only edited the caps between them):



This is the green prototype:



I can always make it more green since I can make it any color I want to:



But just keep in mind, while I can make it as green as I want to, that's not necessarily how it will look.

[midnight2903]

could you get a render with the green rama M60-A? that is my goal with these caps and it will probably hype the kit a lot!

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Ask and ye shall receive, courtesy as always of amnesia0287 who continues doing a ballin job of rendering sets for me.

That looks more grey than green, but I love it!

I can always make it more green since I can make it any color I want to:

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But just keep in mind, while I can make it as green as I want to, that's not necessarily how it will look.

That looks amazing!

[mkarlsson]

I own the R1 set and would be in for bonsai kit but not without the @‘ key for uk iso... why is it gone?

[donutcat]

I own the R1 set and would be in for bonsai kit but not without the @‘ key for uk iso... why is it gone?

That's a side effect of the sublegends, GMK doesn't have a mold for that key with whichever sublegend it would need to have.

[mkarlsson]

I own the R1 set and would be in for bonsai kit but not without the @‘ key for uk iso... why is it gone?

That's a side effect of the sublegends, GMK doesn't have a mold for that key with whichever sublegend it would need to have.

Ah ok, that’s bad. Thanks for the info!

[klaaz0r]

could you get a render with the green rama M60-A? that is my goal with these caps and it will probably hype the kit a lot!

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Ask and ye shall receive, courtesy as always of amnesia0287 who continues doing a ballin job of rendering sets for me.

That looks more grey than green, but I love it!

I dunno, as far as I'm aware RAMA hasn't posted pantones, so I just went with the color I had available and guessed what seemed close. But this seems pretty close to me, this is the same exact case color as the render donut posted head on (i only edited the caps between them):

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This is the green prototype:

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I can always make it more green since I can make it any color I want to:

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But just keep in mind, while I can make it as green as I want to, that's not necessarily how it will look.

Really nice! just ordered the M60 now let this set happen 

[donutcat]

Alright, so here's where we are at the moment. I'm working on finalizing kit contents for the set. At the moment, I have these kits I'm working with:


Base Kit


Spacebar Kit


Bonsai Alphas Kit


U9 Mods Kit

The base kit is where I'd like it to be, I can't think of a whole bunch that I'd want to change on it. Spacebars are also where I think they need to be based on other sets. The problem children here are the bonsai and U9 mods kits.

Including just one of them wouldn't be an issue, they provide all the keys they'd need to be used with the base kit. The problem comes if someone wanted to get just the bonsai and U9 kits without the base kit, in which case they'd be missing F1-F4, F9-F12, spacebars, and most of the numpad. It'd most likely be a small use case scenario, but it does concern me. Putting those keys in one of those two kits is the obvious choice, but I know whichever one I choose there'll be people unhappy with it. Maybe splitting the keys between the kits would be a safe bet, but then there'd still be complaints. A more extreme choice would be making the bonsai and U9 kits a single kit. It'd decrease the price since you'd lose the flat fee for splitting kits up, but then I'm sure there'd be plenty of complaints from people on either side. The main benefit to this kit setup I can see would be that if someone wants U9 mods and the normal alphas, they'd most likely be able to make a straight trade of the bonsai alphas for the normals. IDK though, this is one of those problems where no matter what someone won't like the decision I make.

Your thoughts on this matter would be much appreciated for my decision making.

[Rensuya]

I think the Bonsai kit and U9 kit should stay separate, just add the additional keys tot he U9 that is if you decide to add them at all.

Also, think there should be some sort of novelties maybe not a crazy large nov kit but a few simple ones. Maybe some outlines of a bonsai tree or any other trees or plant outlines. Personally, I like the set more after the hiragana alphas were added, but I would buy it for sure if some simple and clean novelties were added.

[amnesia0287]

maybe make the frow in the base kit all dark and then do a full light one in the u9 kit. or maybe even just do inverted beige on green for the f1-4 and f9-12 and add that to the u9 kit.

[watchy0ubac]

I also think the Bonsai and U9 should stay separate, it's likely just add too much of an extra cost for someone who just want Bonsai alphas and not the U9 mods. Not sure how much it'd change the price of the U9 kit, but it might be best to just add the missing keys to fill the set out.

[ojrask]

Keep the Bonsai kit separate, please.

[odd]

Please add R1 backspace for us HHKB users, seriously  why this key is not standard with every keyset amazes me.

[xondat]

Please add R1 backspace for us HHKB users, seriously  why this key is not standard with every keyset amazes me.

Because that isn't the HHKB layout?

[Giorgio]

Nice bonsai

[nu_types]

Another question about the alphas: are you planning on using the existing Latin + Hiragana molds that were created for laser, or do you plan on using the updated molds from serika? Just curious.

[donutcat]

The laser ones. I see no benefit to using the serika ones.

[midnight2903]

Please add R1 backspace for us HHKB users, seriously  why this key is not standard with every keyset amazes me.

Because that isn't the HHKB layout?

Probably HHKB JP?

[donutcat]

Alright, so here's the current plan for the set. Kits are soft locked as they appear below:


Base Kit - most likely will include some novelties as well


Spacebars Kit - typical normal and split spacebar compatibility


Bonsai Kit - Hiragana sublegend alphas


Monotone Mods Kit - U9 mods to be used with alphas to make a monotone/uniform set

As stated previously, there is a bit of non-compatibility with the U9 mods and the Bonsai in that they could not be used together without some other keys being needed, F1-F4, F9-F12, numpad numbers, spacebars. Really there's no good way around this, I'd need to add those keys to one of those kits, but I don't think that's fair to raise the price on either of those kits for the realistically very small demographic that would be using the two together.

If there is a significant number of people looking to use those two kits together, let me know and I can look into a solution if there is enough support to warrant it. Otherwise, I think it's better to leave it as is for the best chance of everything hitting the MOQs.

Here's my current list of what needs to be done for the set:

 - novelty design and approval
 - submit to gmk for mockups and quoting
 - talk to potential proxies
 - move into GB stage

At this time I'm still hoping for a launch sometime June and hoping that won't interfere with anything else.

Go ahead and let me know your thoughts and if I missed anything you think needs attention.

[oh_chesteroni]

Looks great!
Would you ever consider using a darker shade of green for legends/accents or are you wanting to stay true to R1?

[tex_live_utility]

It looks like this one actually has true 40s compat. Nice!

[donutcat]

Looks great!
Would you ever consider using a darker shade of green for legends/accents or are you wanting to stay true to R1?

N7 is the darkest green GMK has in their "stocked" colors, and I'd prefer to stick to non-custom colors as well as staying true to R1 for compatibility.

[kokugatsu]

count me in for the bonsai kit

[donutcat]

Onto the tough part now, I'm looking to work on novelty designs for the set. Having the artistic ability of a cantaloupe I'm looking for designs that could be used as they are or would be able to be lightly modded for use here. I've found this design that I kinda like for a pine cone either as-is or lightly modded

It's actually supposed to be hops, but I think the design also works well as a simplified pine cone

Currently on the lookout for a good simple pine tree design, lemme know if you have any suggestions. Found a few I like but it's a little difficult finding the stuff that's CC.

[Funktion]

Very interested in the kit. IMO if the set was missing novelties altogether I wouldn't be bothered.

[kokugatsu]

A bonsai tree novelty would be sick.

[Keebmeupscotty]

As a proud owner of R1, I'd love to see some bonsai related novelties (especially since I have a bonsai on my desk next to the set.) Gonna give some basic sketches a go. Going to try for a basic pine tree and a sort of classic juniper-esque bonsai. Probably can't get to it til the weekend, but ill either post them here or send ya a pm. Also, is just plain black and white two tone fine for these?

[donutcat]

As a proud owner of R1, I'd love to see some bonsai related novelties (especially since I have a bonsai on my desk next to the set.) Gonna give some basic sketches a go. Going to try for a basic pine tree and a sort of classic juniper-esque bonsai. Probably can't get to it til the weekend, but ill either post them here or send ya a pm. Also, is just plain black and white two tone fine for these?

Single color and svg is what's needed for GMK's design requirements. Additionally, GMK requires minimum radius .17mm, minimum line thickness of .34mm, 1mm away from the cap edge. Thanks for doing thins and I look forward to the results!