Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 July 2014, 20:46:26
Eagle:
(http://cfile22.uf.tistory.com/image/213D233752E50B921DCE1E)
Viper:
(http://cfile24.uf.tistory.com/image/230ABB3752E50B933FB432)
ORDER HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1iUvy4ss_EFClrfKXiSZ1Gyu3Iqtpa_DuChbowyzOKTo/viewform) <---- Click here to order
Included in this set:
Aluminium housing (Aluminum 6061) in black, silver, blue-gray, or red
MX Reinforcement plate (STS-304 1.5T)
PCB presoldered
Fixing bolts
Info:
Full keymapping
Supports MX and ALPs switches
Full LED and side LED compatible. Side LED is red by default (on PCB)
Switches and stabilizers not included (MX requires Cherry PCB Stabilizers)
Acrylic accessories not included and not for sale.
More information on this : here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58074.0)
Price:
Set: $220 USD
Shipping
Shipping will be from South Korea with EMS. Shipping cost will depend on your location. Each set weighs about --- kg with packaging, so you will be looking at row --- kg.Click here to check your zone (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53348.msg1191127#msg1191127) and Click here to check their updated prices (http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/sub/subpage.jsp?contId=e1020300)
Notes
- Deadline for payment is August 18, 2014.
- Order ONLY if you can pay the invoice by the deadline.
- There will be no extras for sale after this group buy is closed, so please put your order in before it's too late ;)
- I will send invoices through Paypal to everyone, so you need a verified Paypal account to receive and pay. Also please check the information carefully before submitting your order. There will be Paypal fees added to the price.
- If you want to make changes to your order, please send me a PM.
- I can only guarantee damages for 7 days from the day you receive the items.
ORDER HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1iUvy4ss_EFClrfKXiSZ1Gyu3Iqtpa_DuChbowyzOKTo/viewform) <---- Click here to order
Check your order here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDdEWHFub0liRWZxemZIR0ZuNmFBLVE&single=true&gid=1&output=html
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 July 2014, 20:56:23
http://www.filedropper.com/viper-eagle-alps1
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 July 2014, 22:34:29
:p
Post by: keyit on Wed, 30 July 2014, 22:38:13
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 30 July 2014, 22:38:54
Need to make a classifides ad.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 July 2014, 22:41:54
Post by: Vintage on Wed, 30 July 2014, 22:48:02
Thanks Elton! ;D
Edit: Resubmitted form to include country :p
Post by: Xenderwind on Wed, 30 July 2014, 22:48:07
Is the top picture blue-grey? How consistent is that colouring? Would it ever be lighter or darker?
There are more pics of blue-grey here http://duck0113.tistory.com/81
edit: and I believe anodizing is the same unless it is in a different batch. Which is why some other cases had slightly different color top halves from bottom. But you may want to research more on that.
Post by: jameslr on Wed, 30 July 2014, 22:49:09
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 July 2014, 22:53:24
Is the top picture blue-grey? How consistent is that colouring? Would it ever be lighter or darker?
There are more pics of blue-grey here http://duck0113.tistory.com/81
edit: and I believe anodizing is the same unless it is in a different batch. Which is why some other cases had slightly different color top halves from bottom. But you may want to research more on that.
Thank you. I suppose I should have had a better look before asking - sorry!
Elton, I think I need to change my order. xD The blue-grey is a tad too blue for my tastes. I prefer black in this case. (heh. puns.)
Post by: minho on Wed, 30 July 2014, 22:58:32
EDIT: Is there an option to buy multiple of the same board? In a way, this is good so I'm not tempted to buy two Vipers, but I was seriously considering earlier today while thinking about this GB...
Post by: awong on Wed, 30 July 2014, 23:02:21
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 30 July 2014, 23:09:37
Post by: jorgenslee on Wed, 30 July 2014, 23:32:54
Post by: cooldiscretion on Wed, 30 July 2014, 23:41:52
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 30 July 2014, 23:45:08
These designs are very nice. I don't think you're going to find a classier way to get the HHKB layout on MX. Good luck!
Post by: kle5635 on Thu, 31 July 2014, 00:08:27
Post by: tribade on Thu, 31 July 2014, 00:14:22
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 31 July 2014, 00:30:28
There are 40 Vipers and 30 Eagles cases that are made already.
If you want more than one Viper or Eagle, just PM me, I'll add it manually.
Post by: pasph on Thu, 31 July 2014, 00:47:42
Post by: SSIPAK on Thu, 31 July 2014, 00:51:06
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 31 July 2014, 01:14:51
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 31 July 2014, 01:18:23
I picked blue/gray eagle... but I think I should go with black... everything else I got is black...
Yeah, the black eagle is gorgeous. If I could only convince myself to get both viper and eagle.
Post by: Lingj on Thu, 31 July 2014, 01:22:40
Post by: bazh on Thu, 31 July 2014, 01:40:12
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 31 July 2014, 01:53:49
With a VENGEANCE >:D
Blue-grey Viper mustard race.
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 31 July 2014, 02:12:05
Post by: feizor on Thu, 31 July 2014, 03:18:03
And before anyone posts the buy both girl gif, my budget does not allow for buying both.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 31 July 2014, 03:21:16
I'm torn between silver and blue-grey.The blue-grey looks quite unique and beautiful, so to me, it's a no-brainer.
And before anyone posts the buy both girl gif, my budget does not allow for buying both.
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 31 July 2014, 04:00:34
(http://i.imgur.com/1h3pp2g.png) this is how I want it to look like when everything's finished.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 31 July 2014, 04:03:58
How customizable is the layout of the Viper? I want a layout that's a hybrid of the two seen here: http://duck0113.tistory.com/81 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/81).I've never built a keyboard, but isn't that just a question of where you solder the switches?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1h3pp2g.png)this is how I want it to look like when everything's finished.
Post by: Motan22 on Thu, 31 July 2014, 04:43:23
I am sure there will be plenty of aftermarket demand if I decide to part with one in the future anyway.
Post by: epzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 04:50:32
I want 3...
Post by: lionblinds on Thu, 31 July 2014, 05:49:30
Post by: Distilled on Thu, 31 July 2014, 05:55:24
Post by: feizor on Thu, 31 July 2014, 05:58:52
Ordered silver viper. But, do I want a blue-grey one? Really can't decide!
Exactly my dilemma.
Post by: osi on Thu, 31 July 2014, 07:21:36
Post by: evolveS on Thu, 31 July 2014, 07:25:39
Post by: Rewind on Thu, 31 July 2014, 07:49:50
Cheers,
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 31 July 2014, 07:53:15
I picked blue/gray eagle... but I think I should go with black... everything else I got is black...
And the black Lightsaver does look stunning...... ;)
How customizable is the layout of the Viper? I want a layout that's a hybrid of the two seen here: http://duck0113.tistory.com/81 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/81).I've never built a keyboard, but isn't that just a question of where you solder the switches?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1h3pp2g.png)this is how I want it to look like when everything's finished.
Sure, but only if the PCB actually allows you to solder a switch there and has proper stabilizer mount points. :) I don't remember if we've seen the PCB of these boards yet, but they may or may not allow that - the plate also would need the proper holes.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 31 July 2014, 07:57:31
Post by: WinterIsle on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:00:17
Can anyone clarify whether we should source plate or pcb mounted stabs?PCB Mount Stabs.
Cheers,
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:03:18
Damn it HOFF! now is not the time for devil's advocate! :))I picked blue/gray eagle... but I think I should go with black... everything else I got is black...
And the black Lightsaver does look stunning...... ;)
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:04:10
pcb already posted:How customizable is the layout of the Viper? I want a layout that's a hybrid of the two seen here: http://duck0113.tistory.com/81 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/81).I've never built a keyboard, but isn't that just a question of where you solder the switches?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1h3pp2g.png)this is how I want it to look like when everything's finished.
Sure, but only if the PCB actually allows you to solder a switch there and has proper stabilizer mount points. :) I don't remember if we've seen the PCB of these boards yet, but they may or may not allow that - the plate also would need the proper holes.
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/123/897/353/25d00d36ed1bb85f0a0cbdd6004f0bd8.jpg)
and I believe that layout should be fine as this appears to be the same:
(http://cfile30.uf.tistory.com/image/2612994C53DA06C92F4A2C)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:07:03
Damn it HOFF! now is not the time for devil's advocate! :))I picked blue/gray eagle... but I think I should go with black... everything else I got is black...
And the black Lightsaver does look stunning...... ;)
I'm just sayin'!! :P
pcb already posted:How customizable is the layout of the Viper? I want a layout that's a hybrid of the two seen here: http://duck0113.tistory.com/81 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/81).I've never built a keyboard, but isn't that just a question of where you solder the switches?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1h3pp2g.png)this is how I want it to look like when everything's finished.
Sure, but only if the PCB actually allows you to solder a switch there and has proper stabilizer mount points. :) I don't remember if we've seen the PCB of these boards yet, but they may or may not allow that - the plate also would need the proper holes.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/123/897/353/25d00d36ed1bb85f0a0cbdd6004f0bd8.jpg)
and I believe that layout should be fine as this appears to be the same:Show Image(http://cfile30.uf.tistory.com/image/2612994C53DA06C92F4A2C)
Xenderwind, correcting me since forever ago. :D Thanks for the pictures and information! I need to hone my detective skills big time.
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:15:22
Xenderwind, correcting me since forever ago. :D Thanks for the pictures and information! I need to hone my detective skills big time.Haha, I've been keeping somewhat up to date with elton's gbs since I came back to GH. Been excited for this gb to start.
Now we need to find someone to cut us some side window things.
I prefer the frosted ones here: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_housing&document_srl=502
We have the file for it:(http://puu.sh/agw9K/7c9608a3d8.png)
but I believe only one person has heard back from places they have contacted and they said they needed another machine to cut 12mm thick (though the viper are only 10mm).
I think apoc meow said he was going to contact someone but not sure if he ever posted an update.
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:15:48
Viper ordered.
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:26:33
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:32:08
I'll find out about the alps question.
When I find out the weight of these, I'll start invoicing.
The red colour is the same as the duck minis. I'll get a pic when I can.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:38:04
I'll find out about the alps question.
Thank you. If I recall correctly the previous 60% Alps compatible board Duck0117 made, the Mini v2, accepted the AT101W stabilizers and caps. I just want to verify that.
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:38:31
There's a link in the IC where all the layouts for viper and eagle. Tapatalk won't let me highlight the link to copy and paste.There was a user who managed to get 4 of them from the korean gb. He/she said it weighs about 2 kg but that was probably just the board and not whole box.
I'll find out about the alps question.
When I find out the weight of these, I'll start invoicing.
The red colour is the same as the duck minis. I'll get a pic when I can.
Post by: Rewind on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:40:58
There's a link in the IC where all the layouts for viper and eagle. Tapatalk won't let me highlight the link to copy and paste.
I'll find out about the alps question.
When I find out the weight of these, I'll start invoicing.
The red colour is the same as the duck minis. I'll get a pic when I can.
Do you know if a acrylic bottom/middle plate is possible just like with the Orion? If so, do you have the dimensions?
Also a general question regarding the Viper/HHKB layout, where on earth do we find 1.75 unit bottom row caps?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:45:00
Also a general question regarding the Viper/HHKB layout, where on earth do we find 1.75 unit bottom row caps?
I'm pretty sure those are 1.5x caps.
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:50:13
Also a general question regarding the Viper/HHKB layout, where on earth do we find 1.75 unit bottom row caps?
I'm pretty sure those are 1.5x caps.
Viper bottom row looks like: 1x - 1.5x - 7x - 1.5x - 1x to me.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:51:25
From here (http://duck0113.tistory.com/81).
That's definitely the layout tjweir. But perhaps Rewind was referring to the short right shift layout?
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:54:20
Show Image(http://cfile9.uf.tistory.com/image/2765754952E5116215D203)
From here (http://duck0113.tistory.com/81).
That's definitely the layout tjweir. But perhaps Rewind was referring to the short right shift layout?
Ah, that image certainly makes it clear :)
Post by: epzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:55:33
Also a general question regarding the Viper/HHKB layout, where on earth do we find 1.75 unit bottom row caps?
Tsangan kits.
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 31 July 2014, 08:59:37
Post by: Rewind on Thu, 31 July 2014, 09:01:13
Show Image(http://cfile9.uf.tistory.com/image/2765754952E5116215D203)
From here (http://duck0113.tistory.com/81).
That's definitely the layout tjweir. But perhaps Rewind was referring to the short right shift layout?
Yeah sorry, I meant bottom row profile (B/1/4) 1.75 shift key.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 31 July 2014, 09:03:25
If anyone CONUS wants to bepaidto assemble an eagle with full led, oiled springs and lubed stems, let me know, so that I can order one :]
I got ya.
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 31 July 2014, 09:07:23
Doin werk!!! :-*If anyone CONUS wants to bepaidto assemble an eagle with full led, oiled springs and lubed stems, let me know, so that I can order one :]
I got ya.
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 31 July 2014, 09:10:31
Or is anyone CONUS that only wants the case and plate?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 31 July 2014, 09:11:02
Doin werk!!! :-*If anyone CONUS wants to bepaidto assemble an eagle with full led, oiled springs and lubed stems, let me know, so that I can order one :]
I got ya.
Are you gonna need me to do this one for you too? :-*
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 31 July 2014, 09:22:12
Also for those of you unsure yet....BLUE-GRAY is the way to go!
Post by: mashby on Thu, 31 July 2014, 10:00:59
Post by: BlackDragonTribal on Thu, 31 July 2014, 10:28:03
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 31 July 2014, 10:49:01
Why not, I'll send are parts you do the soldering! PERFECT TEAM :pDoin werk!!! :-*If anyone CONUS wants to bepaidto assemble an eagle with full led, oiled springs and lubed stems, let me know, so that I can order one :]
I got ya.
Are you gonna need me to do this one for you too? :-*
Post by: D01 on Thu, 31 July 2014, 11:35:00
Been casually following the other thread, really like the looks of the Eagle and Light Pad together.
Post by: epzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 11:59:04
Light Pad? No?
Been casually following the other thread, really like the looks of the Eagle and Light Pad together.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59861.0
Post by: Razor Lotus on Thu, 31 July 2014, 12:48:46
Can I have the eagle but with a normal, full length R_SHIFT? aka poker 2 layout
Also, this means that switches aren't included and I have to get my own switches right?
Thanks
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 31 July 2014, 12:54:09
Can I have the eagle but with a normal, full length R_SHIFT? aka poker 2 layout
Also, this means that switches aren't included and I have to get my own switches right?
Thanks
(http://cfile8.uf.tistory.com/image/2643DF4952E5116126FFD2)
First picture shows the layout you're looking for.
Also, this means that switches aren't included and I have to get my own switches right?
Included in this set:
Aluminium housing (Aluminum 6061) in black, silver, blue-gray, or red
MX Reinforcement plate (STS-304 1.5T)
PCB presoldered
Fixing bolts
Doesn't seem like there are switches involved so yes, you'll have to source your own.
Post by: cphead on Thu, 31 July 2014, 12:55:06
Some quick questions:Pretty sure there are solder holes for both shift positions. And doesn't seem like any switches are included.
Can I have the eagle but with a normal, full length R_SHIFT? aka poker 2 layout
Also, this means that switches aren't included and I have to get my own switches right?
Thanks
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 31 July 2014, 13:50:24
Do I need to submit another one?
Post by: tribade on Thu, 31 July 2014, 13:54:26
Hmm, my order isn't showing up on the spreadsheet.
Do I need to submit another one?
He may just not have had time to update it. I believe he's updating that list himself.
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 July 2014, 13:57:59
I'm adding orders manually onto the public sheet, so don't expect to see your name on it right after you filled in the form. ;)
Post by: Vintage on Thu, 31 July 2014, 14:17:34
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 14:24:33
Oh baby.
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 31 July 2014, 14:29:39
Happy day is happy!
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/726/894/df2.gif)
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/726/894/df2.gif)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 31 July 2014, 14:36:30
Happy day is happy!Show Image(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/726/894/df2.gif)
Now I know how I'm spending the last hour and a half of my work day...
Post by: geogga on Thu, 31 July 2014, 14:45:38
Post by: awong on Thu, 31 July 2014, 14:46:07
So it's 220 for the entire keyboard? Including build costs and such?I don't think so.
Post by: cphead on Thu, 31 July 2014, 14:47:29
So it's 220 for the entire keyboard? Including build costs and such?
220 for:
case, plate, pcb, screws
It's in the OP.
Post by: Vibex on Thu, 31 July 2014, 14:47:40
So it's 220 for the entire keyboard? Including build costs and such?220 for the kit, it won't be built when you get it.
Post by: epzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 14:52:53
So it's 220 for the entire keyboard? Including build costs and such?
In your dreams. ^__^
Post by: Vintage on Thu, 31 July 2014, 14:56:29
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 31 July 2014, 14:59:42
lololol jk...but I think you all made your point hahahaha
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 31 July 2014, 14:59:50
220 for case + PCB
60 bucks for shipping (ugh)
50 bucks for switches
10 bucks for stabs
15 bucks for LEDs
35 for assembly
??? for shipping to me
Luckily, I've already bought everything in preparation for this buy, so I am set :thumb:
Post by: asassdsd on Thu, 31 July 2014, 15:11:43
If anyone CONUS wants to bepaidto assemble an eagle with full led, oiled springs and lubed stems, let me know, so that I can order one :]
I got ya.
Hoffman the savior! What a guy. I also ordered a silver eagle although im torn between the blue grey and silver.
I have zero experience regarding this , but being the adventurous youngster I am going to assemble my very first keyboard. I will check the forum for some basic tutorials. But if I ever encounter any problems or have any questions , may I PM you for guidance??
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 31 July 2014, 15:16:34
I'm guessing my costs are gonna be:Not sure if that included the dreaded paypal feels. Which is actually a fair amount for this purchase. That assembly sounds really cheap too XD. Lubing and spring swapping is a pain in the ass. Luckily I plan on going 65g blues so I won't have to bother with lubing.
220 for case + PCB
60 bucks for shipping (ugh)
50 bucks for switches
10 bucks for stabs
15 bucks for LEDs
35 for assembly
??? for shipping to me
Luckily, I've already bought everything in preparation for this buy, so I am set :thumb:
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 31 July 2014, 15:16:57
If anyone CONUS wants to bepaidto assemble an eagle with full led, oiled springs and lubed stems, let me know, so that I can order one :]
I got ya.
Hoffman the savior! What a guy. I also ordered a silver eagle although im torn between the blue grey and silver.
I have zero experience regarding this , but being the adventurous youngster I am going to assemble my very first keyboard. I will check the forum for some basic tutorials. But if I ever encounter any problems or have any questions , may I PM you for guidance??
Absolutely! Standing offer to anyone else to give advice, as well. I'm by no means the most experienced builder here, but I love sharing knowledge and helping, so that's totally fine with me. :thumb: Also, the Living Soldering Thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0) is a great starting point, in case you haven't found that resource.
Also, I am offering casual / low cost assembly, to anyone interested. However, I like to see people build something for themselves, because it is quite satisfying, so that's why I say what I've said above. So if you'd like to contact me for either of these two things, don't hesitate to PM. :)
Post by: awong on Thu, 31 July 2014, 15:19:06
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 31 July 2014, 15:24:34
Absolutely! Standing offer to anyone else to give advice, as well. I'm by no means the most experienced builder here, but I love sharing knowledge and helping, so that's totally fine with me. :thumb: Also, the Living Soldering Thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0) is a great starting point, in case you haven't found that resource.
Also, I am offering casual / low cost assembly, to anyone interested. However, I like to see people build something for themselves, because it is quite satisfying, so that's why I say what I've said above. So if you'd like to contact me for either of these two things, don't hesitate to PM. :)
I may have to pm you some questions regarding resistors for the led's or other things along those lines when the time comes. I've done switch soldering on my qfr a couple times but never really messed with led's.
How many viper and eagle orders? I do not know which one to buy.
There are 40 vipers and 30 eagles available total. There is an order confirmation on the front page if you wish to count them to see how many of each is left.
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 31 July 2014, 15:31:49
Anyways, I just got home...going to read through the PMs and update the sheet..
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 31 July 2014, 15:36:46
Yeah, I'm going for stock clears, as I've heard great things, so no pesky lubing and spring swapping.I'm guessing my costs are gonna be:Not sure if that included the dreaded paypal feels. Which is actually a fair amount for this purchase. That assembly sounds really cheap too XD. Lubing and spring swapping is a pain in the ass. Luckily I plan on going 65g blues so I won't have to bother with lubing.
220 for case + PCB
60 bucks for shipping (ugh)
50 bucks for switches
10 bucks for stabs
15 bucks for LEDs
35 for assembly
??? for shipping to me
Luckily, I've already bought everything in preparation for this buy, so I am set :thumb:
As for the assembly price, I forgot to add 10 bucks for the LEDs, but that includes the cost of assembling my Light Pad, as well.
I'm going through Tjcaustin, if anyone was wondering.
Post by: asassdsd on Thu, 31 July 2014, 15:44:38
If anyone CONUS wants to bepaidto assemble an eagle with full led, oiled springs and lubed stems, let me know, so that I can order one :]
I got ya.
Hoffman the savior! What a guy. I also ordered a silver eagle although im torn between the blue grey and silver.
I have zero experience regarding this , but being the adventurous youngster I am going to assemble my very first keyboard. I will check the forum for some basic tutorials. But if I ever encounter any problems or have any questions , may I PM you for guidance??
Absolutely! Standing offer to anyone else to give advice, as well. I'm by no means the most experienced builder here, but I love sharing knowledge and helping, so that's totally fine with me. :thumb: Also, the Living Soldering Thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0) is a great starting point, in case you haven't found that resource.
Also, I am offering casual / low cost assembly, to anyone interested. However, I like to see people build something for themselves, because it is quite satisfying, so that's why I say what I've said above. So if you'd like to contact me for either of these two things, don't hesitate to PM. :)
Absolute saint. Gonna go fetch some parts and tools now...
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 15:56:31
I also need clear switch tops. I hope QWER is going to stock them before I get the kit because $.50 per piece on techkeys is a little too expensive for my taste.
Post by: epzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:07:50
I have have 58 switch stickers left and my Viper will have 59 switches...
I also need clear switch tops. I hope QWER is going to stock them before I get the kit because $.50 per piece on techkeys is a little too expensive for my taste.
What color are your stickers?
Post by: swornxin on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:08:58
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:17:19
I have have 58 switch stickers left and my Viper will have 59 switches...
I also need clear switch tops. I hope QWER is going to stock them before I get the kit because $.50 per piece on techkeys is a little too expensive for my taste.
What color are your stickers?
I have pink switch stickers. I also have a whole sheet of white ones but I prefer to use the pink ones when I have clear switch tops (hopefully).
Post by: asassdsd on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:18:52
I live in the US..
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:22:00
Post by: cooldiscretion on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:23:39
Where is the best place I can get the parts thats not too expensive (Swithces, *springs, switch tops, stickers)
I live in the US..
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/ sells pretty reasonably priced switches.
You can get springs from Sprit's spring group buy:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55888.0
Stabilizers are available in Ivan's group buy:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.0;topicseen
Not sure about stickers except for from gonskeyboardworks.com, but shipping might not make that worth your while...
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:24:36
Where is the best place I can get the parts thats not too expensive (Swithces, *springs, switch tops, stickers)Switches and springs you can get on classifieds or sprit gb for springs. I'm not going to bother with tops/stickers but I believe some vendor sites have stickers but not really sure about tops (most likely classifieds).
I live in the US..
Post by: SSIPAK on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:24:56
Post by: epzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:28:54
So I placed an order for Viper but it's not showing up on the spreadsheet. Did I do something wrong?
No, wait for elton to update the list.
Post by: SSIPAK on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:29:24
ah gotcha, thanks epzy!So I placed an order for Viper but it's not showing up on the spreadsheet. Did I do something wrong?
No, wait for Elton to update the list.
Post by: cphead on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:35:58
Where is the best place I can get the parts thats not too expensive (Swithces, *springs, switch tops, stickers)
I live in the US..
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/ sells pretty reasonably priced switches.
You can get springs from Sprit's spring group buy:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55888.0
Stabilizers are available in Ivan's group buy:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.0;topicseen
Not sure about stickers except for from gonskeyboardworks.com, but shipping might not make that worth your while...
Can get stickers at techkeys.us
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:37:06
Where is the best place I can get the parts thats not too expensive (Swithces, *springs, switch tops, stickers)
I live in the US..
You can get stickers and clear switch tops on http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories although the tops are quite expensive with 50 cents per piece.
Post by: asassdsd on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:39:27
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:58:55
I will assemble one for someone for free. I don't have much else going on, I have a new soldering station to test out, and I want to get a good look at one of these :P
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 31 July 2014, 17:02:45
Post by: cooldiscretion on Thu, 31 July 2014, 17:09:12
Where is the best place I can get the parts thats not too expensive (Swithces, *springs, switch tops, stickers)
I live in the US..
You can get stickers and clear switch tops on http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories although the tops are quite expensive with 50 cents per piece.
My grandma would call that highway robbery.
Post by: asassdsd on Thu, 31 July 2014, 17:17:22
Where is the best place I can get the parts thats not too expensive (Swithces, *springs, switch tops, stickers)
I live in the US..
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/ sells pretty reasonably priced switches.
You can get springs from Sprit's spring group buy:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55888.0
Stabilizers are available in Ivan's group buy:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.0;topicseen
Not sure about stickers except for from gonskeyboardworks.com, but shipping might not make that worth your while...
For the stablizers and springs from the gb, will i get the part right away? Or do i have to wait?
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 31 July 2014, 17:22:35
Where is the best place I can get the parts thats not too expensive (Swithces, *springs, switch tops, stickers)
I live in the US..
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/ sells pretty reasonably priced switches.
You can get springs from Sprit's spring group buy:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55888.0
Stabilizers are available in Ivan's group buy:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.0;topicseen
Not sure about stickers except for from gonskeyboardworks.com, but shipping might not make that worth your while...
For the stablizers and springs from the gb, will i get the part right away? Or do i have to wait?
Wait, but you will also have to wait for this gb as well.
Post by: phatdood9 on Thu, 31 July 2014, 18:34:55
any chance of getting 2 vipers? or is the inventory already nearly exhausted?
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 31 July 2014, 19:00:11
this gb seems incredibly popular!!I count 37 already on there since he last updated it. I wouldn't ask questions and just order it now incase this is all we get (who knows if they will produce more). It might already be sold out of the premade ones by now and he hasnt updated it yet.
any chance of getting 2 vipers? or is the inventory already nearly exhausted?
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 31 July 2014, 19:04:03
- There will be no extras for sale after this group buy is closed, so please put your order in before it's too late ;)
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 31 July 2014, 19:07:07
I remember reading that but since he also didn't list the number of them in the OP one could interpret that as all orders will be filled, but once they are closed no more will be produced.- There will be no extras for sale after this group buy is closed, so please put your order in before it's too late ;)
Especially since it also says:
There are 40 Vipers and 30 Eagles cases that are made already.which one can take as a hint that more will be produced if the demand meets it.
Post by: Lastpilot on Thu, 31 July 2014, 19:14:12
lololol yeah who knows. Lightsaver got an order limit extension from 15 -> 30, so maybe that could happen here. But for those of you on the fence, now is not the time to wait! ACT NOW!
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 19:49:31
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 July 2014, 20:28:20
Will the pre-made ones ship out earlier than the ones that still have to be made?I kinda doubt there will be any such thing as "ones that still have to be made." They sold these in a Korean group buy, and Duck most likely had these extras made to sell in this very buy. Usually when that happens, when the units are sold, they are just gone, and no more will be made, unless there were to be another round of sales, in say a year from now.
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 20:35:42
Will the pre-made ones ship out earlier than the ones that still have to be made?I kinda doubt there will be any such thing as "ones that still have to be made." They sold these in a Korean group buy, and Duck most likely had these extras made to sell in this very buy. Usually when that happens, when the units are sold, they are just gone, and no more will be made, unless there were to be another round of sales, in say a year from now.
I understood it as "we already have some for the first people, the ones that come later have to wait for theirs to be made". But if it is like you said then my question is obsolete :D
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 July 2014, 21:03:21
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 21:06:14
Unfortunately, having a run of say 20-30 PCBs manufactured after you already had 200 delivered is cost prohibitive. You lose the volume tiers, and wouldn't be able to sell them for the same price. Same goes for cases, etc.
Right, that sounds reasonable. Well I am glad that I still got in then :thumb:
Post by: phatdood9 on Thu, 31 July 2014, 23:26:09
Post by: minho on Thu, 31 July 2014, 23:31:36
where are you guys getting stabs from?
Ivan has a gb for stabs right now. I think it would probably arrive before this GB ships.
I also ordered an extra set from GON's website when I got my NerD TKL.
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 01 August 2014, 05:06:32
He does?where are you guys getting stabs from?
Ivan has a gb for stabs right now. I think it would probably arrive before this GB ships.
I also ordered an extra set from GON's website when I got my NerD TKL.
Where?
Post by: epzy on Fri, 01 August 2014, 05:08:22
He does?where are you guys getting stabs from?
Ivan has a gb for stabs right now. I think it would probably arrive before this GB ships.
I also ordered an extra set from GON's website when I got my NerD TKL.
Where?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1406270#msg1406270
Post by: bazh on Fri, 01 August 2014, 05:27:56
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 August 2014, 07:03:23
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Fri, 01 August 2014, 07:04:06
Post by: Xenderwind on Fri, 01 August 2014, 07:13:28
Ah well looks like I missed out.Couldn't hurt to place an order anyway. Incase someone backs out or something. Surprised you missed it with how active you are :S.
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 01 August 2014, 08:21:42
Post by: geogga on Fri, 01 August 2014, 09:02:14
So all we need are switches caps and LEDs
Anyone know the black keycaps that were shown in the pictures and maybe a link?
They're probably PBT and look super clean
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 01 August 2014, 09:04:37
I'm pretty sure the orders are unlimited.Un-un-un-unlimited?! Duck is stepping up production wow, lol.
Will the pre-made ones ship out earlier than the ones that still have to be made?Also curious about this :]
Post by: epzy on Fri, 01 August 2014, 09:08:00
Whoops lol, I missed that...IDK how.
So all we need are switches caps and LEDs
Anyone know the black keycaps that were shown in the pictures and maybe a link?
They're probably PBT and look super clean
You'll need stabilizers as well. They look like WoB Cherry doubleshots.
P.S. why would you assume that they were PBT?
Post by: Rewind on Fri, 01 August 2014, 09:13:32
Whoops lol, I missed that...IDK how.
So all we need are switches caps and LEDs
Anyone know the black keycaps that were shown in the pictures and maybe a link?
They're probably PBT and look super clean
You'll need stabilizers as well. They look like WoB Cherry doubleshots.
It seems the caps from a g80-1800 should fit the viper.
Post by: osi on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:09:28
I'm pretty sure the orders are unlimited.
Yayyy. I may be able to get one later.
Confirmation on this please sir Elton?? :D
Post by: Xenderwind on Fri, 01 August 2014, 12:36:27
Whoops lol, I missed that...IDK how.
So all we need are switches caps and LEDs
Anyone know the black keycaps that were shown in the pictures and maybe a link?
They're probably PBT and look super clean
You'll need stabilizers as well. They look like WoB Cherry doubleshots.
P.S. why would you assume that they were PBT?
You can't even have WoB dye sub (which most pbt are). He may have just been riding the hype that almost everyone experiences when they first start looking into keycaps. Something along the lines of pbt>abs and thickness makes keycaps godly.
Post by: epzy on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:00:20
Whoops lol, I missed that...IDK how.
So all we need are switches caps and LEDs
Anyone know the black keycaps that were shown in the pictures and maybe a link?
They're probably PBT and look super clean
You'll need stabilizers as well. They look like WoB Cherry doubleshots.
P.S. why would you assume that they were PBT?
You can't even have WoB dye sub (which most pbt are). He may have just been riding the hype that almost everyone experiences when they first start looking into keycaps. Something along the lines of pbt>abs and thickness makes keycaps godly.
Yep.
Post by: minho on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:57:38
Whoops lol, I missed that...IDK how.
So all we need are switches caps and LEDs
Anyone know the black keycaps that were shown in the pictures and maybe a link?
They're probably PBT and look super clean
You'll need stabilizers as well. They look like WoB Cherry doubleshots.
P.S. why would you assume that they were PBT?
You can't even have WoB dye sub (which most pbt are). He may have just been riding the hype that almost everyone experiences when they first start looking into keycaps. Something along the lines of pbt>abs and thickness makes keycaps godly.
Yep.
I'm still under the impression that thick keycaps ate godly. Thick pbt, double shots, it's all amazing.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 01 August 2014, 15:23:05
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 01 August 2014, 15:26:48
Do Duck boards use mini USB to USB cables?
Yep. Almost all keyboards use mini, except for Novatouch and CODE.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 01 August 2014, 15:36:51
Awesome.Do Duck boards use mini USB to USB cables?
Yep. Almost all keyboards use mini, except for Novatouch and CODE.
Gonna get some cables from pexon, but I wanted to be sure.
Post by: phatdood9 on Fri, 01 August 2014, 18:46:10
He does?where are you guys getting stabs from?
Ivan has a gb for stabs right now. I think it would probably arrive before this GB ships.
I also ordered an extra set from GON's website when I got my NerD TKL.
Where?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1406270#msg1406270
So we'd need a:
7x plate mount space bar stab
(2) 2x plat mount stab for the left shift and the enter key?
Post by: Xenderwind on Fri, 01 August 2014, 18:51:59
First off these are pcb mounted stabs you need. And the stabilizers you need depends on what layout you want. But you will need a spacebar, left shift, enter, and potential backspace+right shift depending on what layout you prefer.He does?where are you guys getting stabs from?
Ivan has a gb for stabs right now. I think it would probably arrive before this GB ships.
I also ordered an extra set from GON's website when I got my NerD TKL.
Where?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1406270#msg1406270
So we'd need a:
7x plate mount space bar stab
(2) 2x plat mount stab for the left shift and the enter key?
Post by: SSIPAK on Fri, 01 August 2014, 22:28:42
yeah I would like to know this as well. If it's unlimited, maybe I don't have to rush and make my purchase.I'm pretty sure the orders are unlimited.
Yayyy. I may be able to get one later.
Confirmation on this please sir Elton?? :D
Post by: bazh on Fri, 01 August 2014, 22:40:12
yeah I would like to know this as well. If it's unlimited, maybe I don't have to rush and make my purchase.I'm pretty sure the orders are unlimited.
Yayyy. I may be able to get one later.
Confirmation on this please sir Elton?? :D
Unlimited is the number of order for GH in this GB, that doesnt mean there will ever be any Viper/Eagle made after the buy I believe. This GB is your only chance to buy these baby.
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 02 August 2014, 20:33:06
Kinda like the minis/kingsaver?
Curious after the "unlimited" remark.
Post by: phatdood9 on Sat, 02 August 2014, 21:39:16
First off these are pcb mounted stabs you need. And the stabilizers you need depends on what layout you want. But you will need a spacebar, left shift, enter, and potential backspace+right shift depending on what layout you prefer.He does?where are you guys getting stabs from?
Ivan has a gb for stabs right now. I think it would probably arrive before this GB ships.
I also ordered an extra set from GON's website when I got my NerD TKL.
Where?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1406270#msg1406270
So we'd need a:
7x plate mount space bar stab
(2) 2x plat mount stab for the left shift and the enter key?
I mean for a viper in hhkb layout
The OP says that a plate is included
Does the 1.75x right shift need a stab? I assume the backspace is 1.5x or something on a hhkb layout
Post by: minho on Sat, 02 August 2014, 22:00:21
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 02 August 2014, 22:01:32
First off these are pcb mounted stabs you need. And the stabilizers you need depends on what layout you want. But you will need a spacebar, left shift, enter, and potential backspace+right shift depending on what layout you prefer.He does?where are you guys getting stabs from?
Ivan has a gb for stabs right now. I think it would probably arrive before this GB ships.
I also ordered an extra set from GON's website when I got my NerD TKL.
Where?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1406270#msg1406270
So we'd need a:
7x plate mount space bar stab
(2) 2x plat mount stab for the left shift and the enter key?
I mean for a viper in hhkb layout
The OP says that a plate is included
Does the 1.75x right shift need a stab? I assume the backspace is 1.5x or something on a hhkb layout
If you go for a layout that follows exactly like a HHKB you'll have the bottom layout in this picture.(http://cfile9.uf.tistory.com/image/2765754952E5116215D203) The bottom layout only requires 2 2x stabs and 1 7x stab
Post by: Rewind on Sat, 02 August 2014, 22:03:25
1.75x keys do not need a stab (caps lock, hhkb right shift). I think stabs are only for keys 2x and up.First off these are pcb mounted stabs you need. And the stabilizers you need depends on what layout you want. But you will need a spacebar, left shift, enter, and potential backspace+right shift depending on what layout you prefer.He does?where are you guys getting stabs from?
Ivan has a gb for stabs right now. I think it would probably arrive before this GB ships.
I also ordered an extra set from GON's website when I got my NerD TKL.
Where?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1406270#msg1406270
So we'd need a:
7x plate mount space bar stab
(2) 2x plat mount stab for the left shift and the enter key?
I mean for a viper in hhkb layout
The OP says that a plate is included
Does the 1.75x right shift need a stab? I assume the backspace is 1.5x or something on a hhkb layout
Post by: feizor on Sun, 03 August 2014, 01:05:19
First off these are pcb mounted stabs you need. And the stabilizers you need depends on what layout you want. But you will need a spacebar, left shift, enter, and potential backspace+right shift depending on what layout you prefer.He does?where are you guys getting stabs from?
Ivan has a gb for stabs right now. I think it would probably arrive before this GB ships.
I also ordered an extra set from GON's website when I got my NerD TKL.
Where?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1406270#msg1406270
So we'd need a:
7x plate mount space bar stab
(2) 2x plat mount stab for the left shift and the enter key?
I mean for a viper in hhkb layout
The OP says that a plate is included
Does the 1.75x right shift need a stab? I assume the backspace is 1.5x or something on a hhkb layout
No stab needed for 1.75x shift.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sun, 03 August 2014, 03:55:08
Sorry for my lack of patience.
Post by: loud_asian on Sun, 03 August 2014, 19:08:44
When are we gonna get invoiced?
Sorry for my lack of patience.
elton said a few pages back that once he founds out how much shipping costs, he'll start invoicing
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 03 August 2014, 21:37:50
I just received the weight of each unit. I'll start invoicing maybe tomorrow or Tuesday. I'll update the spreadsheet tomorrow night as well.
Viper
Housing : 1206g
PCB : 84g
Plate : 139g
Accessories : 4g
Eagle
Housing : 1128g
PCB : 89g
Plate : 143g
Accessories : 4g
Packaging is 0.69 kg
Oh and there won't be any ALPs plate available.
Post by: Lingj on Sun, 03 August 2014, 21:45:19
Oh and there won't be any ALPs plate available.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :blank:
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 03 August 2014, 21:54:13
Using ALPs requires a plate so...
Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 04 August 2014, 09:08:56
I haven't updated the spreadsheet yet or anything for that matter..
I just received the weight of each unit. I'll start invoicing maybe tomorrow or Tuesday. I'll update the spreadsheet tomorrow night as well.
Viper
Housing : 1206g
PCB : 84g
Plate : 139g
Accessories : 4g
Eagle
Housing : 1128g
PCB : 89g
Plate : 143g
Accessories : 4g
Packaging is 0.69 kg
Oh and there won't be any ALPs plate available.
Wow, never knew the case is that heavy. It's even heavier than Hammer case I think.
Post by: epzy on Mon, 04 August 2014, 09:14:31
I haven't updated the spreadsheet yet or anything for that matter..
I just received the weight of each unit. I'll start invoicing maybe tomorrow or Tuesday. I'll update the spreadsheet tomorrow night as well.
Viper
Housing : 1206g
PCB : 84g
Plate : 139g
Accessories : 4g
Eagle
Housing : 1128g
PCB : 89g
Plate : 143g
Accessories : 4g
Packaging is 0.69 kg
Oh and there won't be any ALPs plate available.
Wow, never knew the case is that heavy. It's even heavier than Hammer case I think.
Yeah, Hammer cases weigh around 1.1kg.
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 04 August 2014, 17:14:29
Either way each set w/ packaging will weigh a little over 2 kg, so you'd have to look at the 2.5 kg shipping rate.
If you want to make your own ALPs plate, I have the file for it. Let me know if you want it.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 05 August 2014, 09:41:45
Oh and there won't be any ALPs plate available.
They haven't tested ALPs on the PCBs and I don't think they are planning on doing it as well.
Using ALPs requires a plate so...
Sigh. Thanks elton. If they haven't tested functionality then I really don't want to spring for the board only to find out something is wrong with the PCB. Guess I'm not getting one of these after all.
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 05 August 2014, 10:10:02
Oh and there won't be any ALPs plate available.They haven't tested ALPs on the PCBs and I don't think they are planning on doing it as well.
Using ALPs requires a plate so...
Sigh. Thanks elton. If they haven't tested functionality then I really don't want to spring for the board only to find out something is wrong with the PCB. Guess I'm not getting one of these after all.
I feel your pain. If there was a PCB only option I'd take the risk and worst case have an MX board, but Elton says there will be no PCB only option :(
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 05 August 2014, 20:00:44
(http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/original/2562323C53C900C50248DA)
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 06 August 2014, 19:40:29
If you order 1 unit, we will use .56 kg packaging weight and 2 units and more will be .69 kg.
There are 40 vipers and 31 eagles available immediately. They just need to produce PCBs, plates, and anodizing the cases.
The rest will have to wait 2 months for the next round..
Post by: Xenderwind on Wed, 06 August 2014, 19:48:26
Okay, I asked TrueCustom if he could get a smaller box for single unit orders to reduce the weight under 2 kg for cheaper shipping and he has done it today. I'll start organizing everything tonight for invoice over the next few days.Awesome! Thanks for the updates and getting us reduced shipping elton.
If you order 1 unit, we will use .56 kg packaging weight and 2 units and more will be .69 kg.
There are 40 vipers and 31 eagles available immediately. They just need to produce PCBs, plates, and anodizing the cases.
The rest will have to wait 2 months for the next round..
Post by: minho on Wed, 06 August 2014, 19:48:51
Okay, I asked TrueCustom if he could get a smaller box for single unit orders to reduce the weight under 2 kg for cheaper shipping and he has done it today. I'll start organizing everything tonight for invoice over the next few days.
If you order 1 unit, we will use .56 kg packaging weight and 2 units and more will be .69 kg.
There are 40 vipers and 31 eagles available immediately. They just need to produce PCBs, plates, and anodizing the cases.
The rest will have to wait 2 months for the next round..
Will these be distributed in order of order submissions on the form?
Post by: osi on Wed, 06 August 2014, 19:49:43
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 06 August 2014, 19:53:26
Will these be distributed in order of order submissions on the form?
Yes. That would be most fair.
Post by: minho on Wed, 06 August 2014, 20:11:48
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 06 August 2014, 20:14:39
Post by: asassdsd on Wed, 06 August 2014, 20:18:14
Will these be distributed in order of order submissions on the form?
Yes. That would be most fair.
Elton Ive sent u an email about changing my order, have u receive it?
Post by: jameslr on Thu, 07 August 2014, 11:21:36
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 07 August 2014, 11:24:04
Anyone interested in selling their R1 spot for Black Eagle?Not sure when the spreadsheet was last updated but it only shows 27/31 eagles.
Post by: epzy on Thu, 07 August 2014, 11:24:50
Post by: jameslr on Thu, 07 August 2014, 11:30:05
Anyone interested in selling their R1 spot for Black Eagle?Not sure when the spreadsheet was last updated but it only shows 27/31 eagles.
K - I just ordered then. Not sure if it's going to make it in R1 if he's already submitted though :/
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 07 August 2014, 11:41:49
Anyone interested in selling their R1 spot for Black Eagle?Not sure when the spreadsheet was last updated but it only shows 27/31 eagles.
K - I just ordered then. Not sure if it's going to make it in R1 if he's already submitted though :/
I would imagine the 31 they had available would be just for elton's GB and they would order the pcb/plates for those regardless. Only thing left would be to pick the color for annodizing. And even if no one ordered the last 4 I would assume they would just annodize them anyway and sell them as leftovers.
Though there is also a fairly high chance that elton hasn't been updated the spreadsheet and there are already others ahead of you for the remaining 4 eagles.
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 07 August 2014, 15:57:15
Show Image(http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/original/2562323C53C900C50248DA)
This picture makes me happy I picked Blue-grey.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 07 August 2014, 16:06:07
Right?Show Image(http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/original/2562323C53C900C50248DA)
This picture makes me happy I picked Blue-grey.
So, after invoicing, will we just be waiting on the cases being anodized before they'll be ready to ship?
Post by: cooldiscretion on Thu, 07 August 2014, 16:10:22
Right?Show Image(http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/original/2562323C53C900C50248DA)
This picture makes me happy I picked Blue-grey.
So, after invoicing, will we just be waiting on the cases being anodized before they'll be ready to ship?
It sounded to me like PCBs as well, but I could be misinterpreting.
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 07 August 2014, 16:15:10
So, after invoicing, will we just be waiting on the cases being anodized before they'll be ready to ship?
They just need to produce PCBs, plates, and anodizing the cases.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 07 August 2014, 16:18:11
Post by: osi on Fri, 08 August 2014, 09:14:47
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sat, 09 August 2014, 03:40:51
I don't think I've ever seen it so smooth.
(http://cfile4.uf.tistory.com/image/255C8B3753140EB3191E94)
(http://cfile3.uf.tistory.com/image/220D2A3753140EB205CA9B)
Post by: feizor on Sat, 09 August 2014, 04:10:48
How does Duck get this uniform glow in his Eagle and Light Pad?
I don't think I've ever seen it so smooth.Show Image(http://cfile4.uf.tistory.com/image/255C8B3753140EB3191E94)Show Image(http://cfile3.uf.tistory.com/image/220D2A3753140EB205CA9B)
+1 I would also like to know. I suspect it's shining onto the red PCB and the camera exposure enhances the effect.
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 09 August 2014, 08:52:29
I got a very similar effect with mine: I'm using blank cherry POM, which is very opaque. The light bounces off the nice stainless steel plate and gets that effect. I suspect it's just the fact that none of it can shine through the thick cherry keycaps he has on there.How does Duck get this uniform glow in his Eagle and Light Pad?
I don't think I've ever seen it so smooth.Show Image(http://cfile4.uf.tistory.com/image/255C8B3753140EB3191E94)Show Image(http://cfile3.uf.tistory.com/image/220D2A3753140EB205CA9B)
+1 I would also like to know. I suspect it's shining onto the red PCB and the camera exposure enhances the effect.
Post by: bazh on Sat, 09 August 2014, 09:30:52
How does Duck get this uniform glow in his Eagle and Light Pad?
I don't think I've ever seen it so smooth.Show Image(http://cfile4.uf.tistory.com/image/255C8B3753140EB3191E94)Show Image(http://cfile3.uf.tistory.com/image/220D2A3753140EB205CA9B)
shouldn't be that hard, especially when Duck use SS plate, which is support backlit lighting better than alu one.
This is my 38GT, using a red alu plate
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7038/13420999813_48095acc22_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/mrY8Ev)
Post by: minho on Sat, 09 August 2014, 12:43:19
How does Duck get this uniform glow in his Eagle and Light Pad?
I don't think I've ever seen it so smooth.Show Image(http://cfile4.uf.tistory.com/image/255C8B3753140EB3191E94)Show Image(http://cfile3.uf.tistory.com/image/220D2A3753140EB205CA9B)
shouldn't be that hard, especially when Duck use SS plate, which is support backlit lighting better than alu one.
This is my 38GT, using a red alu plate
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7038/13420999813_48095acc22_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/mrY8Ev)
What kind of keycaps is that? I have thick IMSTO PBT, and the back lighting on my NerD TKL can shine through the keycaps...
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 13:13:30
Post by: epzy on Sat, 09 August 2014, 13:16:32
Post by: minho on Sat, 09 August 2014, 13:27:52
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 13:28:00
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 09 August 2014, 13:29:07
Oh Crap....I've sent them in CAD and not USD...please do not pay..I'm going to change the invoice...I'm going to refund you minho...
Whoops, I just paid.
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 13:30:22
Post by: minho on Sat, 09 August 2014, 13:35:08
Sorry about that. I'll refund those who paid...
doh. np :p
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sat, 09 August 2014, 14:53:21
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 14:54:08
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sat, 09 August 2014, 15:14:56
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sat, 09 August 2014, 16:39:10
Post by: epzy on Sat, 09 August 2014, 17:20:52
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 09 August 2014, 17:23:25
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 09 August 2014, 17:32:52
Post by: Lingj on Sat, 09 August 2014, 17:37:48
Post by: evolveS on Sat, 09 August 2014, 18:36:46
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 09 August 2014, 18:37:51
Post by: Rewind on Sat, 09 August 2014, 18:45:28
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 18:53:26
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 09 August 2014, 18:58:57
I accidentally deleted the email in all my excitemend.
Post by: tjweir on Sat, 09 August 2014, 19:10:21
Post by: lionblinds on Sat, 09 August 2014, 19:12:10
Post by: tribade on Sat, 09 August 2014, 19:13:21
Post by: o3okevin on Sat, 09 August 2014, 19:26:06
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 09 August 2014, 19:32:57
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 09 August 2014, 19:33:15
Paid! Breaking the bank but I'm so excited! I missed the memo on the first/second round thing. What's up with that?
Duck pre-produced, means there are around 40 Vipers and 30 Eagles available immediately. The people that came too late have to wait until they produce more.
Post by: mousesony on Sat, 09 August 2014, 19:41:59
Post by: phatdood9 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 19:55:25
Post by: Emmiya on Sat, 09 August 2014, 20:01:04
Post by: Xenderwind on Sat, 09 August 2014, 20:08:23
Haven't found an invoice yet :c
There are 2 Eagles still available for the first round. Do the 2nd round viper orders want to be invoiced now or later?
You're not in round 1.
Post by: bazh on Sat, 09 August 2014, 20:29:00
How does Duck get this uniform glow in his Eagle and Light Pad?
I don't think I've ever seen it so smooth.Show Image(http://cfile4.uf.tistory.com/image/255C8B3753140EB3191E94)Show Image(http://cfile3.uf.tistory.com/image/220D2A3753140EB205CA9B)
shouldn't be that hard, especially when Duck use SS plate, which is support backlit lighting better than alu one.
This is my 38GT, using a red alu plate
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7038/13420999813_48095acc22_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/mrY8Ev)
What kind of keycaps is that? I have thick IMSTO PBT, and the back lighting on my NerD TKL can shine through the keycaps...
Mine are Cherry PBT and GMK 2shot, maybe you should try to lower the lighting level :/
Post by: Vintage on Sat, 09 August 2014, 20:34:59
Post by: bueller on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:04:49
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:28:33
Awesome so that means I'm in the first round for the eagle?
Yup
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:36:23
Post by: vardhana on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:40:33
Post by: tribade on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:47:26
Paid! Breaking the bank but I'm so excited! I missed the memo on the first/second round thing. What's up with that?
Duck pre-produced, means there are around 40 Vipers and 30 Eagles available immediately. The people that came too late have to wait until they produce more.
Okay, thanks for the clarification! I'm glad I got in on the first run. Hopefully it won't take too long for there to be more for the second run.
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 09 August 2014, 21:49:06
Paid! Breaking the bank but I'm so excited! I missed the memo on the first/second round thing. What's up with that?
Duck pre-produced, means there are around 40 Vipers and 30 Eagles available immediately. The people that came too late have to wait until they produce more.
Okay, thanks for the clarification! I'm glad I got in on the first run. Hopefully it won't take too long for there to be more for the second run.
I've been given an estimate of 2 months for the 2nd batch
Post by: jameslr on Sat, 09 August 2014, 22:32:29
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sun, 10 August 2014, 02:33:01
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/149/330/6cbbbf6c5b0fd688dd2b8710fa8fdf14.JPG)
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/149/330/da8d3b02443df1a2a783926a177337e7.JPG)
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/149/330/3ef40c58cc3f81667f96767da1ebb41f.JPG)
Post by: kle5635 on Sun, 10 August 2014, 02:40:49
Post by: Motan22 on Sun, 10 August 2014, 04:09:04
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 10 August 2014, 09:57:43
Post by: bueller on Sun, 10 August 2014, 10:07:49
Let's do Aug 18 for the payment deadline.
Not a problem, I'll have my invoice paid by Friday :)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 10 August 2014, 10:56:26
Post by: SL89 on Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:58:30
Post by: tribade on Sun, 10 August 2014, 13:08:11
I have never really lusted for either a Korean board, or anything smaller then a fullsize... but the Viper really makes me reconsider both of those things.
Well then you should probably get one!
Post by: Emmiya on Sun, 10 August 2014, 15:49:00
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 10 August 2014, 17:12:16
Will pay when I'm back at a computer. Thanks Elton!!
Ok, paid!
Post by: koten on Mon, 11 August 2014, 04:09:40
Post by: Rewind on Mon, 11 August 2014, 04:31:50
I haven't received your invoice yet. Was it too late by ordering on 9 Aug :(?Check your order here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDdEWHFub0liRWZxemZIR0ZuNmFBLVE&single=true&gid=1&output=html
Your order will most likely be in the second batch.
Post by: koten on Mon, 11 August 2014, 05:57:05
I haven't received your invoice yet. Was it too late by ordering on 9 Aug :(?Check your order here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDdEWHFub0liRWZxemZIR0ZuNmFBLVE&single=true&gid=1&output=html
Your order will most likely be in the second batch.
Thanks, Rewind. Found my order and the status of "Invoiced/Paid" is blank. Does it mean I haven't been invoiced?
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Mon, 11 August 2014, 06:00:53
Post by: billnye on Mon, 11 August 2014, 06:17:54
Post by: Rewind on Mon, 11 August 2014, 06:21:13
I'm just assuming, but I think that's correct.I haven't received your invoice yet. Was it too late by ordering on 9 Aug :(?Check your order here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDdEWHFub0liRWZxemZIR0ZuNmFBLVE&single=true&gid=1&output=html
Your order will most likely be in the second batch.
Thanks, Rewind. Found my order and the status of "Invoiced/Paid" is blank. Does it mean I haven't been invoiced?
Post by: koten on Mon, 11 August 2014, 06:29:13
I'm just assuming, but I think that's correct.I haven't received your invoice yet. Was it too late by ordering on 9 Aug :(?Check your order here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDdEWHFub0liRWZxemZIR0ZuNmFBLVE&single=true&gid=1&output=html
Your order will most likely be in the second batch.
Thanks, Rewind. Found my order and the status of "Invoiced/Paid" is blank. Does it mean I haven't been invoiced?
OK then. Thanks for helping. :thumb:
Post by: Xenderwind on Mon, 11 August 2014, 09:28:03
I'm just assuming, but I think that's correct.I haven't received your invoice yet. Was it too late by ordering on 9 Aug :(?Check your order here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDdEWHFub0liRWZxemZIR0ZuNmFBLVE&single=true&gid=1&output=html
Your order will most likely be in the second batch.
Thanks, Rewind. Found my order and the status of "Invoiced/Paid" is blank. Does it mean I haven't been invoiced?
OK then. Thanks for helping. :thumb:
I doubt invoices are automated so you have to wait for elton. I think it looks like you could split your order (and pay shipping twice of course) and get an eagle from first batch (premade, need annodizing+plate+pcb made) and a viper from the second batch (I believe elton said ~2 months). Otherwise you will probably be waiting for the 2nd batch before your order is shipped.
Post by: mashby on Mon, 11 August 2014, 09:46:45
Post by: minho on Mon, 11 August 2014, 10:47:08
(ex. there's an order listed with $35.50 shipping and one 1 Viper, and most other orders with one keyboard is $55.00 shipping). I thought the entire US is one zone with shipping from Korea? :confused:
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 11 August 2014, 10:51:23
Just wondering, why are shipping costs different for some people who are in the US?
(ex. there's an order listed with $35.50 shipping and one 1 Viper, and most other orders with one keyboard is $55.00 shipping). I thought the entire US is one zone with shipping from Korea? :confused:
Because possibly that person and another person are having two Vipers shipped to the same US address, and split the $71 shipping cost between their orders. Just guessing. :D
Post by: minho on Mon, 11 August 2014, 11:22:28
Just wondering, why are shipping costs different for some people who are in the US?
(ex. there's an order listed with $35.50 shipping and one 1 Viper, and most other orders with one keyboard is $55.00 shipping). I thought the entire US is one zone with shipping from Korea? :confused:
Because possibly that person and another person are having two Vipers shipped to the same US address, and split the $71 shipping cost between their orders. Just guessing. :D
You are a genius!
Post by: jameslr on Mon, 11 August 2014, 11:28:24
Just wondering, why are shipping costs different for some people who are in the US?
(ex. there's an order listed with $35.50 shipping and one 1 Viper, and most other orders with one keyboard is $55.00 shipping). I thought the entire US is one zone with shipping from Korea? :confused:
What I want to know is why shipping to Canada is $22 cheaper than shipping to USA. It's the same damned continent! Why are Canada and USA in the same zone (zone 3) for letters but not packages? I suspect Korea is just sticking it to 'Murica because reasons.
Post by: Xenderwind on Mon, 11 August 2014, 11:42:05
Just wondering, why are shipping costs different for some people who are in the US?
(ex. there's an order listed with $35.50 shipping and one 1 Viper, and most other orders with one keyboard is $55.00 shipping). I thought the entire US is one zone with shipping from Korea? :confused:
What I want to know is why shipping to Canada is $22 cheaper than shipping to USA. It's the same damned continent! Why are Canada and USA in the same zone (zone 3) for letters but not packages? I suspect Korea is just sticking it to 'Murica because reasons.
I was wondering that too haha. But to be fair...those canadian's will likely have to pay customs fees or something where as we don't.
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 11 August 2014, 12:01:29
Just wondering, why are shipping costs different for some people who are in the US?
(ex. there's an order listed with $35.50 shipping and one 1 Viper, and most other orders with one keyboard is $55.00 shipping). I thought the entire US is one zone with shipping from Korea? :confused:
What I want to know is why shipping to Canada is $22 cheaper than shipping to USA. It's the same damned continent! Why are Canada and USA in the same zone (zone 3) for letters but not packages? I suspect Korea is just sticking it to 'Murica because reasons.
?
2KG item via EMS to USA vs Canada is a ₩7500 difference. ~$7.5
4KG item via EMS to USA vs Canada is a ₩10500 difference. ~$10.5
Besides, Canadians are always paying "Int'l" postage rates from USA. Give us a break. :p
And as Xenderwind said, items entering USA under $200USD are exempt from taxes, whereas items entering Canada under $20CAD are exempt from taxes...
Post by: jameslr on Mon, 11 August 2014, 12:47:18
?
2KG item via EMS to USA vs Canada is a ₩7500 difference. ~$7.5
4KG item via EMS to USA vs Canada is a ₩10500 difference. ~$10.5
Besides, Canadians are always paying "Int'l" postage rates from USA. Give us a break. :p
And as Xenderwind said, items entering USA under $200USD are exempt from taxes, whereas items entering Canada under $20CAD are exempt from taxes...
If you look at the spreadsheet it shows Canadians were charged $33 shipping for 1 keyboard kit (1.99kg) and Americans were charged $55 shipping for 1 keyboard kit (1.99kg). I think Elton may have misquoted shipping to Canadians. They were supposed to be charged ~$48 per the pricing sheet for Zone 3. Zone 2 shipping is ₩32300 for 2kg. A $7.50 difference seems more logical. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't want Elton to have to pay the excess shipping out of his own pocket unless he's just acting as proxy and shipping them within the country himself.
Edit: Looks like Germany and Finland might have been misquoted as well.
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 11 August 2014, 13:16:20
Post by: jameslr on Mon, 11 August 2014, 13:22:51
You are right James. Doh! I guess I read Zone 2 quote thinking it was zone 3.
Glad it was caught! All of Europe (barring UK) was misquoted as well. This includes Finland, Germany, Switzerland, and Netherlands.
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 11 August 2014, 13:29:58
Post by: koten on Mon, 11 August 2014, 15:30:25
I'm just assuming, but I think that's correct.I haven't received your invoice yet. Was it too late by ordering on 9 Aug :(?Check your order here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDdEWHFub0liRWZxemZIR0ZuNmFBLVE&single=true&gid=1&output=html
Your order will most likely be in the second batch.
Thanks, Rewind. Found my order and the status of "Invoiced/Paid" is blank. Does it mean I haven't been invoiced?
OK then. Thanks for helping. :thumb:
I doubt invoices are automated so you have to wait for elton. I think it looks like you could split your order (and pay shipping twice of course) and get an eagle from first batch (premade, need annodizing+plate+pcb made) and a viper from the second batch (I believe elton said ~2 months). Otherwise you will probably be waiting for the 2nd batch before your order is shipped.
What you suggested is quite a wise option.
Post by: bazh on Mon, 11 August 2014, 22:40:58
//OT: anyone know how to change country address in Paypal? I want to edit my shipping address but they dont allow me to change the country :(
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 11 August 2014, 22:51:26
Paid :p
//OT: anyone know how to change country address in Paypal? I want to edit my shipping address but they dont allow me to change the country :(
I think you'll need to make a new account. :( Or you can try to contact PayPal by phone...Just be prepared to provide a bunch of documents. :-\
Post by: asassdsd on Tue, 12 August 2014, 19:54:06
Post by: Distilled on Tue, 12 August 2014, 20:03:16
Post by: ebacho on Wed, 13 August 2014, 00:50:35
Post by: Toxic-i- on Wed, 13 August 2014, 03:20:57
Post by: feizor on Wed, 13 August 2014, 05:14:16
Can i put a Poker 2 in this case?
You can't buy the case separately, it comes in a set with PCB and stainless steel plate. But in answer to your question, you won't be able to put a poker 2 in the viper case as the bottom corners are solid. I'm not sure about the eagle though.
Post by: jameslr on Wed, 13 August 2014, 08:42:49
Paid. Excited! My first custom keyboard, lookin to do it myself with ZERO experience!
I suggest you practice on something other than the PCB in the kit, but this will be my first custom board as well. Good luck :)
Post by: adrl on Wed, 13 August 2014, 08:55:11
Post by: Rewind on Wed, 13 August 2014, 09:32:37
Just wondering, where can I get those caps on the pictures?Which picture? There are a lot of different sets, but they mostly consist of cherry doubleshots from old cherry keyboards.
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 13 August 2014, 09:59:57
Just wondering, where can I get those caps on the pictures?
Those are most likely GMK keycaps like those http://www.kbdmod.co.kr/product/detail.html?product_no=16&cate_no=12&display_group=1 (http://www.kbdmod.co.kr/product/detail.html?product_no=16&cate_no=12&display_group=1) which are basically the same as from old Cherry keyboards. There are replicas made by BSP and Imsto. If you keep your eyes open you may find someone who wants to sell a set of original Cherry doubleshots or Imsto sets on the classifieds.
Post by: adrl on Wed, 13 August 2014, 10:04:49
Which picture? There are a lot of different sets, but they mostly consist of cherry doubleshots from old cherry keyboards.Like this one: http://cfile24.uf.tistory.com/image/230ABB3752E50B933FB432
Those are most likely GMK keycaps like those http://www.kbdmod.co.kr/product/detail.html?product_no=16&cate_no=12&display_group=1 (http://www.kbdmod.co.kr/product/detail.html?product_no=16&cate_no=12&display_group=1) which are basically the same as from old Cherry keyboards. There are replicas made by BSP and Imsto. If you keep your eyes open you may find someone who wants to sell a set of original Cherry doubleshots or Imsto sets on the classifieds.
Thanks
Post by: Toxic-i- on Wed, 13 August 2014, 10:19:05
That's not the problem. I buy the set and put in the case what I want. The question is, does it fit other pcb's like a poker 2.Can i put a Poker 2 in this case?
You can't buy the case separately, it comes in a set with PCB and stainless steel plate. But in answer to your question, you won't be able to put a poker 2 in the viper case as the bottom corners are solid. I'm not sure about the eagle though.
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 13 August 2014, 10:38:24
That's not the problem. I buy the set and put in the case what I want. The question is, does it fit other pcb's like a poker 2.Can i put a Poker 2 in this case?
You can't buy the case separately, it comes in a set with PCB and stainless steel plate. But in answer to your question, you won't be able to put a poker 2 in the viper case as the bottom corners are solid. I'm not sure about the eagle though.
I couldn't find any images of the Eagle case without a PCB in it to see where the standoffs are located. So no way to know for sure, until someone has one in hand.
A better question would be: why would you want to? I realize that when you buy something, it's yours to do with as you please. But why would you want to put a stock keyboard like the Poker 2 in the Eagle case, when you could just have an Eagle??
Post by: Xenderwind on Wed, 13 August 2014, 10:42:52
I couldn't find any images of the Eagle case without a PCB in it to see where the standoffs are located. So no way to know for sure, until someone has one in hand.There are images available when elton showed that they were produced about to go to koreans round 1. I got into a discussion with something similar with someone before. At the very least the hole's in the pcb of the eagle did not match up with the holes on the pcb(or maybe it was the case) of sprit's stuff so I don't think it would work. Check the last couple pages of the IC thread and you should find it (I'd do it but I gotta go to a dentist appointment in ~4mins).
A better question would be: why would you want to? I realize that when you buy something, it's yours to do with as you please. But why would you want to put a stock keyboard like the Poker 2 in the Eagle case, when you could just have an Eagle??
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 13 August 2014, 10:52:05
I couldn't find any images of the Eagle case without a PCB in it to see where the standoffs are located. So no way to know for sure, until someone has one in hand.There are images available when elton showed that they were produced about to go to koreans round 1. I got into a discussion with something similar with someone before. At the very least the hole's in the pcb of the eagle did not match up with the holes on the pcb(or maybe it was the case) of sprit's stuff so I don't think it would work. Check the last couple pages of the IC thread and you should find it (I'd do it but I gotta go to a dentist appointment in ~4mins).
A better question would be: why would you want to? I realize that when you buy something, it's yours to do with as you please. But why would you want to put a stock keyboard like the Poker 2 in the Eagle case, when you could just have an Eagle??
Yeah, based on the hole locations in the Eagle PCB, I would say not.
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 13 August 2014, 11:14:12
But why would you want to put a stock keyboard like the Poker 2 in the Eagle case, when you could just have an Eagle??
If you wanted an Eagle but did not want the case with an 11 degree incline, compatibility with other 60% parts would make the case easier to sell.
In this particular case, another reason you might want the PCB only is for an Alps build. You'd have to get your own plate cut and find appropriate Alps parts, but I think that stuff is more achievable than building your own PCB or hand-wiring a matrix into a Teensy.
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 13 August 2014, 12:43:46
Post by: lp0 on Wed, 13 August 2014, 22:11:17
Post by: adrl on Wed, 13 August 2014, 22:12:01
Just put an order in for the Eagle (hopefully it's round 1 still). It'll be my first time putting one of these together - are the keycaps compatible with a Poker II?Most likely round 2
Post by: minho on Wed, 13 August 2014, 23:00:25
Just put an order in for the Eagle (hopefully it's round 1 still). It'll be my first time putting one of these together - are the keycaps compatible with a Poker II?
Keycaps can basically be compatible with anything you want them to be. But yes, they are compatible with Poker 2 keycaps.
As far as the case goes though, no one on this thread knows I think.
Post by: paobit on Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:11:30
Post by: epzy on Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:22:27
I think I might just buy a duck viper. It says deadline to pay is august 18 but can I still order one right now?
You can order one, but you'd be in round 2 which should be in ~2 months.
Post by: paobit on Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:29:54
I think I might just buy a duck viper. It says deadline to pay is august 18 but can I still order one right now?
You can order one, but you'd be in round 2 which should be in ~2 months.
well since these things are pretty rare might as well get one. I ordered a GON nerd 60 which I think is the eagle layout. If i order the viper layout will i be missing some functions such as backspace?
Post by: paobit on Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:45:11
Post by: Rewind on Thu, 14 August 2014, 13:14:50
It's a programmable keyboard. You can map the key functions yourself.I think I might just buy a duck viper. It says deadline to pay is august 18 but can I still order one right now?
You can order one, but you'd be in round 2 which should be in ~2 months.
well since these things are pretty rare might as well get one. I ordered a GON nerd 60 which I think is the eagle layout. If i order the viper layout will i be missing some functions such as backspace?
Post by: paobit on Thu, 14 August 2014, 13:19:55
Post by: cphead on Thu, 14 August 2014, 13:20:49
Post by: paobit on Thu, 14 August 2014, 13:22:24
Post by: jameslr on Thu, 14 August 2014, 13:24:10
Edit: Either way he'll take your money I'm sure :D
Post by: paobit on Thu, 14 August 2014, 13:27:22
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 14 August 2014, 13:36:49
I believe the August 18 deadline is for Round 1 buyers only. Correct me if I'm wrong. There will probably be a separate, later deadline for Round 2.
Edit: Either way he'll take your money I'm sure :D
I believe he asked the round 2 people what they wanted but didn't get a response. If you look at the spreadsheet I'm pretty sure round 2'ers are already getting invoiced.
Post by: paobit on Thu, 14 August 2014, 13:40:53
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 14 August 2014, 13:51:30
take my money ;DGoing to have to wait for elton to get off work :p.
As for your question earlier about layout, this pic shows 2 layouts but you can mix and match between the two.
(http://cfile9.uf.tistory.com/image/2765754952E5116215D203)
Post by: paobit on Thu, 14 August 2014, 13:53:51
Post by: Xenderwind on Thu, 14 August 2014, 13:57:41
ahhhh at first I was like.."where's the backspace?" but thanks for clarifyingIt's based off the HHKB layout where most people use the dip switches to make the "\" key a backspace.
After using the hhkb layout I rebind my "\" to backspace and my capslock to control on all my computers using AHK. Basically I have two backspaces now(and thats how I plan to build my viper). But I'm actually not too sure which one I normally hit now that I think about it...
Post by: paobit on Thu, 14 August 2014, 14:06:50
Post by: osi on Thu, 14 August 2014, 14:12:17
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 14 August 2014, 15:35:18
Post by: jameslr on Thu, 14 August 2014, 15:42:24
Excuse my impatience, but are there already estimations on when round 1 is going to ship?
I would expect at least 4-6 weeks from elton's published invoice date. Just a guess, but these aren't all ready to ship. They still need to have the plates and cases made / anodized.
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 14 August 2014, 16:14:30
Excuse my impatience, but are there already estimations on when round 1 is going to ship?
I would expect at least 4-6 weeks from elton's published invoice date. Just a guess, but these aren't all ready to ship. They still need to have the plates and cases made / anodized.
I have no idea how long that takes, but I guessed shipping will start mid or end september. And since you expected a similar time I would say it sounds about right.
Post by: Vintage on Thu, 14 August 2014, 16:37:34
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 14 August 2014, 16:54:46
I thought the round 1 cases were already produced but not anodized?
That's right. They still need to produce all the PCBs and plates.
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 14 August 2014, 19:15:58
Post by: paobit on Thu, 14 August 2014, 20:40:58
Just ordered a Viper Blue-gray. Looking forward to my very first GB purchase from Geek Hack not to mention my very first project ever!!! ^_^
This too will also be my first build-a-keyboard project and am a bit nervous because I've also never soldered anything before :confused:
Post by: Rewind on Thu, 14 August 2014, 21:30:22
(http://i.imgur.com/FuOjZFN.jpg)
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 14 August 2014, 21:52:54
Btw is there a way for me to find out if I have successfully ordered my kit? I'm unfamilliar with the ordering method here, I've only really used shopping cart and checkout form. I went to this site [ https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1iUvy4ss_EFClrfKXiSZ1Gyu3Iqtpa_DuChbowyzOKTo/viewform ] then filled in my info and left the eagle part blank and then selected the viper i wanted. Did I do it correctly?
Post by: Rewind on Thu, 14 August 2014, 22:00:39
GL TO BOTH OF US PAOBIT!!!
Btw is there a way for me to find out if I have successfully ordered my kit? I'm unfamilliar with the ordering method here, I've only really used shopping cart and checkout form. I went to this site [ https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1iUvy4ss_EFClrfKXiSZ1Gyu3Iqtpa_DuChbowyzOKTo/viewform ] then filled in my info and left the eagle part blank and then selected the viper i wanted. Did I do it correctly?
You did.
Now just wait for Elton to send you an invoice to the email address that you provided in the form :)
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 14 August 2014, 22:01:12
I can't wait! :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FuOjZFN.jpg)
Care to share where you source it?
Post by: bazh on Thu, 14 August 2014, 22:51:46
Paid :p
//OT: anyone know how to change country address in Paypal? I want to edit my shipping address but they dont allow me to change the country :(
I think you'll need to make a new account. :( Or you can try to contact PayPal by phone...Just be prepared to provide a bunch of documents. :-\
Damn that's so complicated :(
Anw, do we have any estimation on how long the 1st batch will take to be shipped? I'm so excited :p
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 14 August 2014, 23:50:30
Post by: xybre on Fri, 15 August 2014, 03:19:04
Post by: minho on Fri, 15 August 2014, 03:49:33
I submitted an order a day or two ago and its not shown up on the spreadsheet, did I miss it? :(
Give it time, there's a chance Elton just hasn't had a chance to update the spreadsheet yet as he does it manually.
Post by: jameslr on Fri, 15 August 2014, 10:09:43
What components do I need to finish an Eagle build aside from switches and stabilizers? I have already procured LEDs and SIP sockets (optional I know). What exactly is pre-soldered? Is it just the SMD components? Do I still need diodes or will they be presoldered on the board? What about resistors for the LEDs? This is my first custom build, so sorry if I sound noobish.
Post by: Rewind on Fri, 15 August 2014, 10:16:32
I can't wait! :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FuOjZFN.jpg)
Care to share where you source it?
Where did you purchase those from rewind? Oh well I'm glad I was at least able to put my order in. Are these boards pretty rare?
Stickers, lube and switch covers are from techkeys
Springs from SPRiT group buy
Switches from MK.com
Post by: paobit on Fri, 15 August 2014, 13:41:26
Post by: jameslr on Fri, 15 August 2014, 13:43:11
maybe a dumb question but what springs are a good weight for the viper? Or what's the general weight people usually get here? There are extra orders for the gold springs from sprit and might as well get some there.
Springs are a personal preference thing. Not a dumb question though. Understanding the weights requires some knowledge of the stock switches, but there is a guide to the sprit spring weights on his GB page for the spring sales.
Post by: paobit on Fri, 15 August 2014, 13:52:06
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 15 August 2014, 18:36:08
I suppose the 2nd batch can pay later. I'd say 2 weeks after the 1st batch's deadline. After the deadline, there can be NO changes to your order. This is because they need to anodize the cases and the colours will be set once they start. Address can be changed of course.
Post by: paobit on Fri, 15 August 2014, 18:44:57
Post by: osi on Fri, 15 August 2014, 18:56:28
Updated everything needed for now. If I missed anything, let me know..
I suppose the 2nd batch can pay later. I'd say 2 weeks after the 1st batch's deadline. After the deadline, there can be NO changes to your order. This is because they need to anodize the cases and the colours will be set once they start. Address can be changed of course.
Thanks for the update Elton!
September 1st is round 2 deadline
Post by: xybre on Fri, 15 August 2014, 21:03:28
I submitted an order a day or two ago and its not shown up on the spreadsheet, did I miss it? :(
Give it time, there's a chance Elton just hasn't had a chance to update the spreadsheet yet as he does it manually.
Just paid the invoice a few minutes ago, so I'm in! Yay! :D
Post by: koten on Sat, 16 August 2014, 02:26:32
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 16 August 2014, 03:40:21
Huge thanks to Elton for helping us get all this awesome Duck gear!
Post by: adrl on Sat, 16 August 2014, 04:29:15
Post by: paobit on Sat, 16 August 2014, 04:31:13
Once I get this, I just need to find a keyset that matches that black casing.
Personally, I believe any color matches black and white. Hehe I say just pick a set and you're good.
Post by: adrl on Sat, 16 August 2014, 04:36:39
Personally, I believe any color matches black and white. Hehe I say just pick a set and you're good.
Don't have any extra sets so I'm currently on a hunt for a nice one :o
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 16 August 2014, 06:57:31
What is the advantage of the duck keyboards over regular keyboards aside for the fact that you can build it yourself? I purchased one since I love the layout and the feeling that I made something myself :P
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 16 August 2014, 07:24:33
Much like the benefits of most other custom boards.
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 16 August 2014, 08:19:43
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 16 August 2014, 08:29:36
Makes sense, case alone already costs over 100usd for a good quality one on other sites. What do you mean customizations on firmware?
It has firmware which can be modified to change keymapping.
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 16 August 2014, 09:03:24
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 16 August 2014, 09:48:22
kind of like whata poker ii has?
If you want your Backspace key to be Esc, you can do it. If you want your Fn key to be the space bar, you can do it. If you want arrow keys on Fn + Q P V M you can have it.
You have complete control over the whole layout.
Different topic. Let's assume I would buy SMD LEDs from Gon, could I use them as side LEDs for the Viper? I'm asking because the Lightsaver uses a different size of side LEDs as far as I'm aware and I'm pretty sure the Viper / Eagle use the same.
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 16 August 2014, 10:15:51
What do you mean SMD LED? Every time i find out more about this keyboard I get more and more exited lol
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 16 August 2014, 10:31:20
So basically its a more advanced version since any key can be anything.
Exactly. You can look at the program here http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program
What do you mean SMD LED? Every time i find out more about this keyboard I get more and more exited lol
You see, the Duck Viper and Eagle have side LEDs just like the other Duck boards.
(http://puu.sh/aUYQ8/87911943fb.jpg)
Those LEDs are Surface Mounted Devices (or SMD for short) since they don't go through a hole and get soldered onto the surface of the PCB.
Also, I have no clue about the 2x3x4 LEDs as well. I usually use 3mm round LEDs that have around 6.000 - 7.000mcd. Now I am looking at 2x3x4 LEDs that have 200mcd. Isn't that way too low? Will it shine just as bright because they have a wider viewing angle?
Post by: xybre on Sat, 16 August 2014, 10:44:15
Personally, I believe any color matches black and white. Hehe I say just pick a set and you're good.
Don't have any extra sets so I'm currently on a hunt for a nice one :o
Yep, I'll probably strip one of my other keyboards naked in the meantime, but I'd like to find a nice attractive keycap set. It seems like it'd be silly to not put the cherry on top of a nice board.
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 16 August 2014, 10:48:12
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Sat, 16 August 2014, 11:51:16
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 16 August 2014, 12:07:19
Post by: minho on Sat, 16 August 2014, 20:20:32
SMD - Surface mount device. Any SMD component usually is available in many sizes typically referred to as packages. Gon sells the package size 1206 SMD LEDs which are fairly large when it comes to surface mount components. So if the package size is the same on the side LEDs for the Viper/Eagle you're golden. Otherwise you can always buy any package size SMD LED from mouser or digikey.
I remember reading elton saying that the PCBs come with red side LED's already soldered in...
Post by: epzy on Sat, 16 August 2014, 20:20:59
SMD - Surface mount device. Any SMD component usually is available in many sizes typically referred to as packages. Gon sells the package size 1206 SMD LEDs which are fairly large when it comes to surface mount components. So if the package size is the same on the side LEDs for the Viper/Eagle you're golden. Otherwise you can always buy any package size SMD LED from mouser or digikey.
I remember reading elton saying that the PCBs come with red side LED's already soldered in...
Dis is tr00.
Post by: minho on Sat, 16 August 2014, 20:44:17
SMD - Surface mount device. Any SMD component usually is available in many sizes typically referred to as packages. Gon sells the package size 1206 SMD LEDs which are fairly large when it comes to surface mount components. So if the package size is the same on the side LEDs for the Viper/Eagle you're golden. Otherwise you can always buy any package size SMD LED from mouser or digikey.
I remember reading elton saying that the PCBs come with red side LED's already soldered in...
Dis is tr00.
Unfortunately, I can't find the proof to back it up :confused:
Post by: epzy on Sat, 16 August 2014, 20:47:38
SMD - Surface mount device. Any SMD component usually is available in many sizes typically referred to as packages. Gon sells the package size 1206 SMD LEDs which are fairly large when it comes to surface mount components. So if the package size is the same on the side LEDs for the Viper/Eagle you're golden. Otherwise you can always buy any package size SMD LED from mouser or digikey.
I remember reading elton saying that the PCBs come with red side LED's already soldered in...
Dis is tr00.
Unfortunately, I can't find the proof to back it up :confused:
It's in the OP of this thread. =)
"Info:
Full keymapping
Supports MX and ALPs switches
Full LED and side LED compatible. Side LED is red by default (on PCB)
Switches and stabilizers not included (MX requires Cherry PCB Stabilizers)
Acrylic accessories not included and not for sale."
Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 16 August 2014, 20:49:46
Stickers, lube and switch covers are from techkeys
Springs from SPRiT group buy
Switches from MK.com
Did you get the thin or thick lube?
I really have no idea what to use on mx clear. Some say it should be thick but I am planning only to lube the slider, not the leg.
Post by: xybre on Sat, 16 August 2014, 23:49:35
Post by: paobit on Sat, 16 August 2014, 23:52:36
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 17 August 2014, 00:00:52
Hmm, does the Eagle need a 6.25u spacebar?I believe it supports 6.25 and 7 unit.
Post by: cphead on Sun, 17 August 2014, 00:34:01
Hmm anyone in the socal area want to build together? I'll need the help/guidance... Lunch will be on me.Won't have time to build together but will be glad to answer any questions you have about building. :)
Post by: paobit on Sun, 17 August 2014, 00:42:03
Post by: pmh1410 on Sun, 17 August 2014, 03:16:33
Thanks,
pmh1410
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 17 August 2014, 04:25:47
Stickers, lube and switch covers are from techkeys
Springs from SPRiT group buy
Switches from MK.com
Did you get the thin or thick lube?
I really have no idea what to use on mx clear. Some say it should be thick but I am planning only to lube the slider, not the leg.
Usually for tactile switches you want to use thick lube. Thin lube is for linear switches.
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 17 August 2014, 19:55:34
Before I pull the trigger I've got some questions because I'm a total MX noob, I'm sure a lot of these have been answered already so I apologize in advance:
What PBT keycap sets come with a short right shift so I could replicate a HHKB layout?
Is this (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers-tkl.html) stab kit sufficient for the Viper?
Any pics of the red anodization?
Post by: Rewind on Sun, 17 August 2014, 20:27:19
Ugh I think I need one of these
Before I pull the trigger I've got some questions because I'm a total MX noob, I'm sure a lot of these have been answered already so I apologize in advance:
What PBT keycap sets come with a short right shift so I could replicate a HHKB layout?
Is this (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers-tkl.html) stab kit sufficient for the Viper?
Any pics of the red anodization?
The keycaps can be found on old cherry 1800 boards, or tsangan kits.
The stabs are fine. You'll have to decide if you want a 7x spacebar or standard size.
I think you can see an example of red anodization on one of the other boards, orion or kingsaver, not sure.
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 17 August 2014, 20:33:36
Ugh I think I need one of these
Before I pull the trigger I've got some questions because I'm a total MX noob, I'm sure a lot of these have been answered already so I apologize in advance:
What PBT keycap sets come with a short right shift so I could replicate a HHKB layout?
Is this (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/stabilizers/18-pcb-mount-stabilizers-tkl.html) stab kit sufficient for the Viper?
Any pics of the red anodization?
The keycaps can be found on old cherry 1800 boards, or tsangan kits.
The stabs are fine. You'll have to decide if you want a 7x spacebar or standard size.
I think you can see an example of red anodization on one of the other boards, orion or kingsaver, not sure.
Awesome, thank you. Looks like I'm in on round 2 (I assume there's still room in round 2?) for a black Viper.
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 17 August 2014, 20:56:49
Hmm anyone in the socal area want to build together? I'll need the help/guidance... Lunch will be on me.
That's actually a great idea, never thought of this
If anyone can assist me with the same request but from the Wisconsin Stevens point area it would be super awesome though I highly doubt anyone from my small town even knows of GH
Post by: Xenderwind on Sun, 17 August 2014, 21:16:54
Hoff is probably the closest, and I think hes in Milwaukee.Hmm anyone in the socal area want to build together? I'll need the help/guidance... Lunch will be on me.
That's actually a great idea, never thought of this
If anyone can assist me with the same request but from the Wisconsin Stevens point area it would be super awesome though I highly doubt anyone from my small town even knows of GH
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 17 August 2014, 21:26:29
Hoff is probably the closest, and I think hes in Milwaukee.Hmm anyone in the socal area want to build together? I'll need the help/guidance... Lunch will be on me.
That's actually a great idea, never thought of this
If anyone can assist me with the same request but from the Wisconsin Stevens point area it would be super awesome though I highly doubt anyone from my small town even knows of GH
Oh hey! I'm in the Fox Cities! :D Let's do this. Synjin, shoot me a PM if you want to meet up for a build. :thumb:
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 17 August 2014, 21:28:41
Will it make much of a difference or would you guys still recommend a solder with lead in it? What size of solder should I use if I use one that has no lead?
I sent you a friend request :P
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 17 August 2014, 21:45:43
not sure since it only says wisconsin =) Milwaukee is quite far too but hey, it seems there are many people willing to help out anyways. Btw when soldering everything together, I'm thinking of using a lead free solder since I have a baby and I get paranoid about the lead part.
Will it make much of a difference or would you guys still recommend a solder with lead in it? What size of solder should I use if I use one that has no lead?
I sent you a friend request :P
I'm only an hour away! :P That's not far at all. :)
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 17 August 2014, 22:12:26
Post by: paobit on Sun, 17 August 2014, 22:49:35
Definately won't mind driving there and building together
I'm jealous :p
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 17 August 2014, 22:53:13
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:39:56
Definately won't mind driving there and building together
Sure thing. :) I might not have the most desk space to support two simultaneous builds, but I'm sure we can work something out. :thumb:
I hope there's a live streaming for the meetup build. Would love to watch the build process.
Haha, you guys will watch streams of anything! :p
Post by: kle5635 on Sun, 17 August 2014, 23:48:02
Post by: Synjin on Mon, 18 August 2014, 00:06:52
Post by: bazh on Mon, 18 August 2014, 00:49:34
Post by: adrl on Mon, 18 August 2014, 01:44:02
Post by: paobit on Mon, 18 August 2014, 05:49:55
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 18 August 2014, 05:58:14
Oh hey! I'm in the Fox Cities! :D Let's do this. Synjin, shoot me a PM if you want to meet up for a build. :thumb:
Look at how awesome this community is, Good Guy Hoff.
Post by: YongJK on Mon, 18 August 2014, 09:35:40
I have submitted the form yesterday.
Could you send me the invoice as soon as possible ? :thumb:
Post by: cooldiscretion on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:39:36
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Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:43:42
Post by: Synjin on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:50:53
I spent all day Saturday making these. 62g ergo clears lubed with blue stickers and sip sockets so I can hot swap LEDs on a whim.
What are sip pockets? What kind of lube did you use? Would I be able to do what you did with a regular cherry clear switch and some 62g springs? Sorry for all the questions.
Does the color from anodizing scratch of overtime including on the black case? I was curious because if it does, I will switchmy blue-gray to a plain silver instead.
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Post by: pmh1410 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:53:32
hey elton,
I have submitted the form yesterday.
Could you send me the invoice as soon as possible ? :thumb:
Me too, pls help me invoice. Thanks Elton :)
Post by: cooldiscretion on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:56:46
Nice work! I also ordered brown switches today to make some 60g browns. Not sure if I should add SIP sockets though. I usually don't swap LEDs but I guess it can't hurt.Thanks, Fnzzy! I think you'll be happy in the long run if you add the sip sockets. Otherwise, you would have to desolder the led just to open the switch again. Not that anyone plans on opening the switch again after its mounted and soldered but if you have to its convenient. As for making the sip fit in the switch it took some filing down of the plastic edges which was the least favorite part of assembling the switches for sure.
Post by: Thechemist on Mon, 18 August 2014, 10:59:33
Nice work! I also ordered brown switches today to make some 60g browns. Not sure if I should add SIP sockets though. I usually don't swap LEDs but I guess it can't hurt.Thanks, Fnzzy! I think you'll be happy in the long run if you add the sip sockets. Otherwise, you would have to desolder the led just to open the switch again. Not that anyone plans on opening the switch again after its mounted and soldered but if you have to its convenient. As for making the sip fit in the switch it took some filing down of the plastic edges which was the least favorite part of assembling the switches for sure.
Wouldn't it be easier to remove the sip sockets from their housing?
Post by: cooldiscretion on Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:03:01
Nice work! I also ordered brown switches today to make some 60g browns. Not sure if I should add SIP sockets though. I usually don't swap LEDs but I guess it can't hurt.Thanks, Fnzzy! I think you'll be happy in the long run if you add the sip sockets. Otherwise, you would have to desolder the led just to open the switch again. Not that anyone plans on opening the switch again after its mounted and soldered but if you have to its convenient. As for making the sip fit in the switch it took some filing down of the plastic edges which was the least favorite part of assembling the switches for sure.
Wouldn't it be easier to remove the sip sockets from their housing?
I know a lot of people do that, but then they just jangle around in the switch until they are soldered. I'm sure that would work too, but I decided to keep the plastic housing so they would be aligned without having to be soldered into the PCB first.
Post by: YongJK on Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:03:49
I thought u got ur vipers / eagles :Dhey elton,
I have submitted the form yesterday.
Could you send me the invoice as soon as possible ? :thumb:
Me too, pls help me invoice. Thanks Elton :)
Post by: Thechemist on Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:08:40
Nice work! I also ordered brown switches today to make some 60g browns. Not sure if I should add SIP sockets though. I usually don't swap LEDs but I guess it can't hurt.Thanks, Fnzzy! I think you'll be happy in the long run if you add the sip sockets. Otherwise, you would have to desolder the led just to open the switch again. Not that anyone plans on opening the switch again after its mounted and soldered but if you have to its convenient. As for making the sip fit in the switch it took some filing down of the plastic edges which was the least favorite part of assembling the switches for sure.
Wouldn't it be easier to remove the sip sockets from their housing?
I know a lot of people do that, but then they just jangle around in the switch until they are soldered. I'm sure that would work too, but I decided to keep the plastic housing so they would be aligned without having to be soldered into the PCB first.
I have temp leds that I cut the leads even and push them in the switch, solder the sip sockets in and remove them afterwards.
Post by: cooldiscretion on Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:11:12
Nice work! I also ordered brown switches today to make some 60g browns. Not sure if I should add SIP sockets though. I usually don't swap LEDs but I guess it can't hurt.Thanks, Fnzzy! I think you'll be happy in the long run if you add the sip sockets. Otherwise, you would have to desolder the led just to open the switch again. Not that anyone plans on opening the switch again after its mounted and soldered but if you have to its convenient. As for making the sip fit in the switch it took some filing down of the plastic edges which was the least favorite part of assembling the switches for sure.
Wouldn't it be easier to remove the sip sockets from their housing?
I know a lot of people do that, but then they just jangle around in the switch until they are soldered. I'm sure that would work too, but I decided to keep the plastic housing so they would be aligned without having to be soldered into the PCB first.
I have temp leds that I cut the leads even and push them in the switch, solder the sip sockets in and remove them afterwards.
Well, that would probably save me some time assembling so maybe I'll give that a shot for the next set of SIPs. Thanks for the tip.
Post by: pmh1410 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 11:59:44
I thought u got ur vipers / eagles :Dhey elton,
I have submitted the form yesterday.
Could you send me the invoice as soon as possible ? :thumb:
Me too, pls help me invoice. Thanks Elton :)
Yeah but it's not mine. I like red housing ;)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 18 August 2014, 14:22:10
I spent all day Saturday making these. 62g ergo clears lubed with blue stickers and sip sockets so I can hot swap LEDs on a whim.
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Oooooh this is a good idea. I was undecided on LEDs but I'm totally gonna do this now.
Post by: pmh1410 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 17:09:32
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 18 August 2014, 17:26:16
(http://cfile24.uf.tistory.com/original/2552EE3752E50B9312785B)
Post by: Synjin on Mon, 18 August 2014, 22:12:44
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 19 August 2014, 22:11:10
Post by: jwaz on Tue, 19 August 2014, 22:14:42
Updated everything needed for now. If I missed anything, let me know..
I suppose the 2nd batch can pay later. I'd say 2 weeks after the 1st batch's deadline. After the deadline, there can be NO changes to your order. This is because they need to anodize the cases and the colours will be set once they start. Address can be changed of course.
PMed you about combining an order for a couple of us in the Bay Area
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 19 August 2014, 22:32:45
Post by: Xenderwind on Tue, 19 August 2014, 22:46:18
Yeah, I haven't gotten to that yet. I'll change your invoice and refund the difference to those involved.Did you ever get around to fixing the invoices of those who were misscharged shipping? I'd hate to see you lose money by organizing this GB.
I believe it was germany, canada, switzerland, and the netherlands orders that were undercharged going through the list. I think james also posted a list earlier in the thread of the undercharged countries. But you should double check yourself.
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 20 August 2014, 23:56:54
As for the unpaid first batch orders, I'm going to cancel them and move the 2nd batch paid orders to the first batch. This will probably quicken the process and besides they had their chance to pay.
Jwaz: I'll hold off on you since you're combining your order with 2 others.
Post by: Altuz on Thu, 21 August 2014, 00:37:18
Is it still possible to order?
I've always wanted the Viper!
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 00:46:44
Post by: jinq-sea on Thu, 21 August 2014, 04:49:48
Thanks.
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 10:43:19
I got e-mailed to say that my invoice for this was cancelled, but didn't get sent the invoice when it was issued. How weird. If there's a second batch going ahead, how can I get in?
Thanks.
Weird. Maybe it went to your junk mail? Refill the order form and I'll invoice you again.
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 August 2014, 11:13:03
Post by: xybre on Thu, 21 August 2014, 12:23:57
Sometimes Paypal fails to send the email notifications, but if you go to your Paypal account, it will show up in your activity.
Strangely it was the opposite for me, it didn't show up in Paypal, I had to click the email link before it did. I assumed it was protection from letting people spam your Paypal inbox and trying to make it look official somehow.
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 21:07:57
Also, the timeline they gave me for their shipping time is around mid September.
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 21 August 2014, 21:41:39
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 21:48:26
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 21 August 2014, 21:51:53
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 21:54:28
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 21 August 2014, 22:07:52
Post by: cooldiscretion on Thu, 21 August 2014, 22:17:32
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 21 August 2014, 23:04:34
You just got me even more exited ^_^ Btw does the viper and eagle already come with the side led? if not, what are the appropriate led that we can use for these?
Some where back in this thread, someone said that red LEDs are already installed
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 21 August 2014, 23:10:22
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 21 August 2014, 23:24:32
Saw that too but they were unsure I think. Doesn't hurt to ask Elton himself
From the OP
Quote
Info:
Full keymapping
Supports MX and ALPs switches
Full LED and side LED compatible. Side LED is red by default (on PCB)
Switches and stabilizers not included (MX requires Cherry PCB Stabilizers)
Acrylic accessories not included and not for sale.
Post by: AnalogBlu on Thu, 21 August 2014, 23:52:04
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 22 August 2014, 00:04:14
Saw that too but they were unsure I think. Doesn't hurt to ask Elton himself
From the OPQuoteInfo:
Full keymapping
Supports MX and ALPs switches
Full LED and side LED compatible. Side LED is red by default (on PCB)
Switches and stabilizers not included (MX requires Cherry PCB Stabilizers)
Acrylic accessories not included and not for sale.
And the truth shall set me free. Btw I was from the Philippines as well
Post by: jorgenslee on Fri, 22 August 2014, 00:21:40
And the truth shall set me free. Btw I was from the Philippines as well
Cool. Nice to meet you here kababayan... :D
Post by: Gloomy Moonie on Sat, 23 August 2014, 17:48:03
BTW, there won't be any 2nd batches since there aren't much leftover from the main batch. They are making enough and will be finished next week. They will all be shipped together.Wait, does this mean that there won't be a second round?
Also, the timeline they gave me for their shipping time is around mid September.
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 23 August 2014, 17:51:13
Post by: ceflame on Sat, 23 August 2014, 19:58:44
Post by: AnalogBlu on Sat, 23 August 2014, 23:47:28
There aren't enough orders for 2nd round, so if you want one order now and pay quick! ;)
I would need to order and pay even though a Round 2 is not guaranteed? :\
Post by: cphead on Sat, 23 August 2014, 23:48:54
There aren't enough orders for 2nd round, so if you want one order now and pay quick! ;)
I would need to order and pay even though a Round 2 is not guaranteed? :\
If you order and pay now you'll be part of round 1 ...
Post by: ceflame on Sat, 23 August 2014, 23:49:58
There aren't enough orders for 2nd round, so if you want one order now and pay quick! ;)
I would need to order and pay even though a Round 2 is not guaranteed? :\
I'm under the impression that this is the last chance for buy-in for Round 1.
Paid invoice, so excited ;)
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 23 August 2014, 23:50:31
Post by: bazh on Sun, 24 August 2014, 00:07:31
I guess I wasn't clear enough. There won't be a round 2, but if you put your order in, it'll be in this round as they made more than what I posted earlier.
shot you a pm about updating shipping info :D
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 24 August 2014, 00:32:05
I guess I wasn't clear enough. There won't be a round 2, but if you put your order in, it'll be in this round as they made more than what I posted earlier.
Sweet!
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 24 August 2014, 14:00:13
Post by: ceflame on Sun, 24 August 2014, 20:21:47
I saw from a previous post that either could be used, but is it just up to personal preference or would one be more ideal to use?
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 24 August 2014, 20:30:13
I would suggest using PCB mounted switches as it was the same ones recommended to me by others who answered the same inquiry I had a while back. PCB mounted switches are also simpler from what I've heard. You can always get SIP sockets on your PCB mount switches in order to swap out LED without having to re solder anything
Post by: ceflame on Sun, 24 August 2014, 20:38:33
@ceflame : It will be my first time building a keyboard as well but I'm getting some guidance from Hoff since he lives close by (1hr away)
I would suggest using PCB mounted switches as it was the same ones recommended to me by others who answered the same inquiry I had a while back. PCB mounted switches are also simpler from what I've heard. You can always get SIP sockets on your PCB mount switches in order to swap out LED without having to re solder anything
Hm, I guess I'll go with PCB mounted switches then.
I'm still confused about one thing, if you go with PCB mounted switches, does that mean you can't use the MX reinforcement plate?
Post by: jameslr on Sun, 24 August 2014, 20:41:35
@ceflame : It will be my first time building a keyboard as well but I'm getting some guidance from Hoff since he lives close by (1hr away)
I would suggest using PCB mounted switches as it was the same ones recommended to me by others who answered the same inquiry I had a while back. PCB mounted switches are also simpler from what I've heard. You can always get SIP sockets on your PCB mount switches in order to swap out LED without having to re solder anything
Why would you use PCB mount switches for this board when it comes with a plate? Are the switches not mounted on the plate?
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 24 August 2014, 20:54:59
Post by: cphead on Sun, 24 August 2014, 20:56:02
This is going to be my first time building a keyboard, and I'm confused as to whether I should use PCB or plate-mounted switches.
I saw from a previous post that either could be used, but is it just up to personal preference or would one be more ideal to use?
The only difference between PCB and plate mounted switches is PCB mount has 2 pins on the bottom that go on the pcb. Duck boards usually have holes for the pins to go in, so you can use either.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 24 August 2014, 20:57:11
@ceflame : It will be my first time building a keyboard as well but I'm getting some guidance from Hoff since he lives close by (1hr away)
I would suggest using PCB mounted switches as it was the same ones recommended to me by others who answered the same inquiry I had a while back. PCB mounted switches are also simpler from what I've heard. You can always get SIP sockets on your PCB mount switches in order to swap out LED without having to re solder anything
Why would you use PCB mount switches for this board when it comes with a plate? Are the switches not mounted on the plate?
IF the PCB has holes for PCB mounted switches many people like to use them even if a plate is provided just for the added stability and if you have PCB mount switches and don't want to cut the little legs off.
Also not really sure what the one poster meant you can use the SIP sockets regardless if the switch is pcb or plate mount so long as the pcb supports led's.
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 24 August 2014, 20:57:24
This is going to be my first time building a keyboard, and I'm confused as to whether I should use PCB or plate-mounted switches.
I saw from a previous post that either could be used, but is it just up to personal preference or would one be more ideal to use?
The only difference between PCB and plate mounted switches is PCB mount has 2 pins on the bottom that go on the pcb. Duck boards usually have holes for the pins to go in, so you can use either.
That makes more sense now ^_^ Sorry if I'm not as knowledgeable tried my best since I'm still learning from the pros in here
Post by: jameslr on Sun, 24 August 2014, 21:04:33
@ceflame : It will be my first time building a keyboard as well but I'm getting some guidance from Hoff since he lives close by (1hr away)
I would suggest using PCB mounted switches as it was the same ones recommended to me by others who answered the same inquiry I had a while back. PCB mounted switches are also simpler from what I've heard. You can always get SIP sockets on your PCB mount switches in order to swap out LED without having to re solder anything
Why would you use PCB mount switches for this board when it comes with a plate? Are the switches not mounted on the plate?
IF the PCB has holes for PCB mounted switches many people like to use them even if a plate is provided just for the added stability and if you have PCB mount switches and don't want to cut the little legs off.
Also not really sure what the one poster meant you can use the SIP sockets regardless if the switch is pcb or plate mount so long as the pcb supports led's.
Ahh I see. I didn't know the PCB had the holes for switches. I guess I should have gotten the PCB mounts then, but I already had some plate mount switches that I was going to use.
Post by: ceflame on Sun, 24 August 2014, 21:12:27
This is going to be my first time building a keyboard, and I'm confused as to whether I should use PCB or plate-mounted switches.
I saw from a previous post that either could be used, but is it just up to personal preference or would one be more ideal to use?
The only difference between PCB and plate mounted switches is PCB mount has 2 pins on the bottom that go on the pcb. Duck boards usually have holes for the pins to go in, so you can use either.
Alright, I guess I'll just go with PCB mounted switches since I can use either, and convert later if needed.
Now everything's cleared up and I just have to wait for everything to come in and hope I don't make a huge mistake soldering for my first time.
Post by: paobit on Thu, 28 August 2014, 05:03:01
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=597
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 28 August 2014, 05:16:58
are these individual mx switches compatible with the duck viper?Yup, those are what I'm using in my Light Pad, and they'll be in my Viper too.
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=597
Post by: cooldiscretion on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:47:46
This is going to be my first time building a keyboard, and I'm confused as to whether I should use PCB or plate-mounted switches.
I saw from a previous post that either could be used, but is it just up to personal preference or would one be more ideal to use?
The only difference between PCB and plate mounted switches is PCB mount has 2 pins on the bottom that go on the pcb. Duck boards usually have holes for the pins to go in, so you can use either.
Alright, I guess I'll just go with PCB mounted switches since I can use either, and convert later if needed.
Now everything's cleared up and I just have to wait for everything to come in and hope I don't make a huge mistake soldering for my first time.
Even experienced people had to start soldering at some point. When I first started I did make my fair share of mistakes that were difficult to fix.
Some of the little tricks you can pick up off watching youtube tutorials or reading, but others that are technique take practice to improve. If I were
you, I would get some type of junk electronics and tinker. Try to desolder and resolder something and see that you can make the solder joints
as clean as possible. It would be a real shame to accidentally make an unrecoverable mistake on your eagle/viper PCB when it is such an investment.
Post by: paobit on Thu, 28 August 2014, 14:54:03
are these individual mx switches compatible with the duck viper?Yup, those are what I'm using in my Light Pad, and they'll be in my Viper too.
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=597
awesome!
Post by: ceflame on Thu, 28 August 2014, 15:14:53
This is going to be my first time building a keyboard, and I'm confused as to whether I should use PCB or plate-mounted switches.
I saw from a previous post that either could be used, but is it just up to personal preference or would one be more ideal to use?
The only difference between PCB and plate mounted switches is PCB mount has 2 pins on the bottom that go on the pcb. Duck boards usually have holes for the pins to go in, so you can use either.
Alright, I guess I'll just go with PCB mounted switches since I can use either, and convert later if needed.
Now everything's cleared up and I just have to wait for everything to come in and hope I don't make a huge mistake soldering for my first time.
Even experienced people had to start soldering at some point. When I first started I did make my fair share of mistakes that were difficult to fix.
Some of the little tricks you can pick up off watching youtube tutorials or reading, but others that are technique take practice to improve. If I were
you, I would get some type of junk electronics and tinker. Try to desolder and resolder something and see that you can make the solder joints
as clean as possible. It would be a real shame to accidentally make an unrecoverable mistake on your eagle/viper PCB when it is such an investment.
Yeah, making a major mistake on a Duck Eagle PCB... I would probably cry myself to sleep for like a year.
Practiced soldering/desoldering a switch and an led, and it seemed fine. Though the led was much harder.. somehow made 2 big blobs of solder on the led joints, but it still worked.
Post by: doublin on Fri, 29 August 2014, 15:41:41
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 30 August 2014, 13:09:38
In the initial description of what is included, it states the PCB is pre-soldered, but I'm not sure if that is specifically speaking about
the other surface mount components.
Post by: cphead on Sat, 30 August 2014, 13:15:11
Does anyone know if the diodes are already soldered on the PCB or if we are expected to do that ourselves?
In the initial description of what is included, it states the PCB is pre-soldered, but I'm not sure if that is specifically speaking about
the other surface mount components.
If it's anything like previous duck PCBs the diodes are presoldered.
Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 30 August 2014, 16:46:35
Does anyone know if the diodes are already soldered on the PCB or if we are expected to do that ourselves?
In the initial description of what is included, it states the PCB is pre-soldered, but I'm not sure if that is specifically speaking about
the other surface mount components.
If it's anything like previous duck PCBs the diodes are presoldered.
How about the resistor for LEDs?
Post by: cphead on Sat, 30 August 2014, 16:48:20
Does anyone know if the diodes are already soldered on the PCB or if we are expected to do that ourselves?
In the initial description of what is included, it states the PCB is pre-soldered, but I'm not sure if that is specifically speaking about
the other surface mount components.
If it's anything like previous duck PCBs the diodes are presoldered.
How about the resistor for LEDs?
All you need is switches, LEDs, stabs, caps. Nothing else. I think. ;D
Post by: xybre on Mon, 01 September 2014, 11:54:05
Post by: Vintage on Mon, 01 September 2014, 12:05:28
Post by: xybre on Mon, 01 September 2014, 12:52:45
If you go back a few pages, Elton gives an ETA. Seem to remember about the end of September or so....
Woops, I missed that, thanks!
Also, the timeline they gave me for their shipping time is around mid September.
Post by: billnye on Mon, 01 September 2014, 13:02:32
Is there an ETA? Not trying to rush, I'd just like to know when to get excited about its arrival. :D
BTW, there won't be any 2nd batches since there aren't much leftover from the main batch. They are making enough and will be finished next week. They will all be shipped together.
Also, the timeline they gave me for their shipping time is around mid September.
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 01 September 2014, 13:07:33
Post by: Sniping on Tue, 02 September 2014, 22:39:09
Sounds quite different! Part of it is probably due to LED vs no LED.
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 02 September 2014, 22:46:21
Here's an interesting video I found for those who are in this GB:
Sounds quite different! Part of it is probably due to LED vs no LED.
Or maybe the other board has ergo clear modded switches
Post by: Sniping on Tue, 02 September 2014, 22:54:15
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 02 September 2014, 23:01:34
Spring weight shouldn't make a difference when he bottoms out like in the video.
He probably has O rings to dampen the sound
Post by: vdhiep92 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 04:54:31
Here's an interesting video I found for those who are in this GB:
Sounds quite different! Part of it is probably due to LED vs no LED.
This was my video, the Kmac is 59g clear and the Eagle is from my friend, assembled with 62g clear, I just did a quick comparison. The different in sound firstly come from the lubing, the kmac and the eagle were lubed by different ppl as u can see in this video that i press the switches only, the sounds are totally differnt.
Secondly, the eagle was assembled with 2x3x4mm led. If u put on the GMK keycap, it scratch the inside of the keycap and it will make keycap can't be bottom out, it acts likes an unexpected O-ring lol, however it works well with SP keycap. My advice is assembled with 1.8mm led.
I personally dont think the springs can create the different in sound that much ^^
Best regards.
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 07:04:32
I'll invoice the last couple today.
Post by: Battou62 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 08:27:51
Here's an interesting video I found for those who are in this GB:
Sounds quite different! Part of it is probably due to LED vs no LED.
This was my video, the Kmac is 59g clear and the Eagle is from my friend, assembled with 62g clear, I just did a quick comparison. The different in sound firstly come from the lubing, the kmac and the eagle were lubed by different ppl as u can see in this video that i press the switches only, the sounds are totally differnt.
Secondly, the eagle was assembled with 2x3x4mm led. If u put on the GMK keycap, it scratch the inside of the keycap and it will make keycap can't be bottom out, it acts likes an unexpected O-ring lol, however it works well with SP keycap. My advice is assembled with 1.8mm led.
I personally dont think the springs can create the different in sound that much ^^
Best regards.
This is probably why I didn't like the clears on my Orion. It was assembled with the square leds and the switches felt scratchy as hell to me : /
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 03 September 2014, 09:01:31
Here's an interesting video I found for those who are in this GB:
Sounds quite different! Part of it is probably due to LED vs no LED.
This was my video, the Kmac is 59g clear and the Eagle is from my friend, assembled with 62g clear, I just did a quick comparison. The different in sound firstly come from the lubing, the kmac and the eagle were lubed by different ppl as u can see in this video that i press the switches only, the sounds are totally differnt.
Secondly, the eagle was assembled with 2x3x4mm led. If u put on the GMK keycap, it scratch the inside of the keycap and it will make keycap can't be bottom out, it acts likes an unexpected O-ring lol, however it works well with SP keycap. My advice is assembled with 1.8mm led.
I personally dont think the springs can create the different in sound that much ^^
Best regards.
This is probably why I didn't like the clears on my Orion. It was assembled with the square leds and the switches felt scratchy as hell to me : /
Do LEDs affect the feeling of the switch? I was convinced when someone said that it could change the sound, but changing the way the switch feels seems kinda out there for me. Maybe you just need to lube your switches?
Post by: cphead on Wed, 03 September 2014, 09:02:23
Here's an interesting video I found for those who are in this GB:
Sounds quite different! Part of it is probably due to LED vs no LED.
This was my video, the Kmac is 59g clear and the Eagle is from my friend, assembled with 62g clear, I just did a quick comparison. The different in sound firstly come from the lubing, the kmac and the eagle were lubed by different ppl as u can see in this video that i press the switches only, the sounds are totally differnt.
Secondly, the eagle was assembled with 2x3x4mm led. If u put on the GMK keycap, it scratch the inside of the keycap and it will make keycap can't be bottom out, it acts likes an unexpected O-ring lol, however it works well with SP keycap. My advice is assembled with 1.8mm led.
I personally dont think the springs can create the different in sound that much ^^
Best regards.
This is probably why I didn't like the clears on my Orion. It was assembled with the square leds and the switches felt scratchy as hell to me : /
Just clip/sand the edges of the LEDs down ;)
Post by: doublin on Wed, 03 September 2014, 10:00:38
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 10:02:34
Post by: ceflame on Wed, 03 September 2014, 11:04:24
Post by: adrl on Wed, 03 September 2014, 11:07:36
Post by: jameslr on Wed, 03 September 2014, 12:25:59
Post by: mashby on Wed, 03 September 2014, 12:52:50
Post by: cphead on Wed, 03 September 2014, 12:55:59
Post by: bazh on Wed, 03 September 2014, 13:42:58
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 03 September 2014, 13:54:48
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 03 September 2014, 13:56:16
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 September 2014, 13:57:21
where am I going to get Alps keys for this thing that don't suck... SP?
Unless I missed something, they're not supplying an Alps plate either. Can Matias switches be PCB mounted?
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 03 September 2014, 14:02:58
where am I going to get Alps keys for this thing that don't suck... SP?
Unless I missed something, they're not supplying an Alps plate either. Can Matias switches be PCB mounted?
wait... for real? how are you going to make an Alps compatible PCB and not include the proper plate?
More
Included in this set:
Aluminium housing (Aluminum 6061) in black, silver, blue-gray, or red
MX Reinforcement plate (STS-304 1.5T) ???
PCB presoldered
Fixing bolts
Aluminium housing (Aluminum 6061) in black, silver, blue-gray, or red
MX Reinforcement plate (STS-304 1.5T) ???
PCB presoldered
Fixing bolts
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 03 September 2014, 14:07:43
Didn't they supply the specs so people could get one cut?
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 03 September 2014, 14:10:16
I guess they didn't wanna shoulder the costs of manufacturing the alps plates, when most people were gonna be using mx switches.
nothing I can do about bad taste... but there really should be an option for an Alps plate...
guess we'll just have to make one? kind of irks me that it wasn't an option since we've already had a few hhkb style MX-based boards and this is the first Alps one so I felt like the non-MX crowd should have been catered to more.
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 14:18:33
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 03 September 2014, 14:20:10
I have the drawing for the alps plate if anyone wants.
Yeah, post 'em up in the OP?
Maybe I'm vastly underestimating the amount of people that grabbed this thing for Alps compatibility.
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 03 September 2014, 14:34:22
Yeah, I'll run some if other folks are interested!!!I have the drawing for the alps plate if anyone wants.
Yeah, post 'em up in the OP?
Maybe I'm vastly underestimating the amount of people that grabbed this thing for Alps compatibility.
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 03 September 2014, 15:25:14
I have the drawing for the alps plate if anyone wants.
I would definitely be interested in the plate drawing :)
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 17:37:29
http://www.filedropper.com/viper-eagle-alps1
From the drawing it looks like it uses Dell ATW101 stabilizers
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 03 September 2014, 17:40:12
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 17:41:54
You can still order...;)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 03 September 2014, 17:45:09
****. *Now* everyone offer to make plates :( :( :(What could the Captain possibly need plates of...
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 03 September 2014, 18:55:57
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 September 2014, 19:16:41
Post by: Lingj on Wed, 03 September 2014, 19:21:47
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 03 September 2014, 19:51:22
Alps plate please ^^. Would be my first alps board.
Ditto, I'm looking between duck mini and eagle. ;)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:02:36
Post by: Synjin on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:41:58
wel I'll shoot Shawn an email and see what we can doI have both the eagle and viper ordered but It would be awesome of I could get an alps plate as well =)
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:48:21
wel I'll shoot Shawn an email and see what we can do
Sweet! :D thanks!
Post by: jwaz on Thu, 04 September 2014, 10:57:32
wel I'll shoot Shawn an email and see what we can do
keep the alps hype aliiiive! thanks Maow, is it worth starting an IC just to gauge prospective orders?
Post by: Gh05tx on Fri, 05 September 2014, 12:00:58
Post by: Rewind on Fri, 05 September 2014, 15:34:12
Does anyone know where I could buy some stabilizers? Ivans gb is over and gons shipping is kind of expensive. Thanks in advanceI'm fairly sure some vendors have picked up some stabs from ivan's buy. Keep your eyes open :)
Post by: paobit on Fri, 05 September 2014, 15:50:11
Does anyone know where I could buy some stabilizers? Ivans gb is over and gons shipping is kind of expensive. Thanks in advance
wondering the same thing
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 05 September 2014, 16:05:08
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 05 September 2014, 16:52:03
They're not authentic Cherry, just so you know.
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 05 September 2014, 17:05:17
Yeah, I guess we should make it official! Somebody wanna make one... ?wel I'll shoot Shawn an email and see what we can do
keep the alps hype aliiiive! thanks Maow, is it worth starting an IC just to gauge prospective orders?
Outside of sending files to Shawn and mailing out plates... Ok, I need a P.R. person... Who wants it?
You would be responsible for everything BUT pick up, packing and mailing... :confused:
P.S. Your first job is making the IC!
Post by: cooldiscretion on Tue, 09 September 2014, 15:18:44
This is how I feel about getting my Viper. PLEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 September 2014, 15:34:59
Yeah, I guess we should make it official! Somebody wanna make one... ?wel I'll shoot Shawn an email and see what we can do
keep the alps hype aliiiive! thanks Maow, is it worth starting an IC just to gauge prospective orders?
Outside of sending files to Shawn and mailing out plates... Ok, I need a P.R. person... Who wants it?
You would be responsible for everything BUT pick up, packing and mailing... :confused:
P.S. Your first job is making the IC!
Alps plate IC here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62618.0).
Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 09 September 2014, 18:12:42
Post by: xybre on Tue, 09 September 2014, 20:11:51
How about the side acrylic? Does someone know where we can source that?
Yeah I think it'd be a good idea to get the specs and have some made up. I'm interested in getting some clear and maybe some colour tinted sides depending on the cost.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 09 September 2014, 20:18:57
The only local place I have is Tap Plastics, but I've heard they don't have the right thickness.
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 10 September 2014, 08:33:54
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 12 September 2014, 16:28:01
Post by: billnye on Sun, 14 September 2014, 18:26:16
Any updates on shipping?
Really looking forward to this! :D
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 14 September 2014, 18:27:32
Any updates on shipping?
Really looking forward to this! :D
Same here!
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 14 September 2014, 18:54:20
LikewiseAny updates on shipping?
Really looking forward to this! :D
Same here!
Post by: ceflame on Sun, 14 September 2014, 19:13:45
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 14 September 2014, 20:27:51
Post by: epzy on Sun, 14 September 2014, 20:31:24
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 14 September 2014, 20:41:49
Post by: ceflame on Sun, 14 September 2014, 21:01:24
elton told me in PM that they're supposed to ship late september, so until then...
Aw, I'm actually a bit bummed now. Guess I can wait a couple more weeks.
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 14 September 2014, 21:27:37
elton told me in PM that they're supposed to ship late september, so until then...
Thanks for the update. I have been waiting I think for more than 5 or 6 months now, that includes rumours, product introduction and IC. I don't mind waiting for another month or two. lol
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 14 September 2014, 23:00:42
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 14 September 2014, 23:41:13
Post by: Synjin on Mon, 15 September 2014, 00:01:31
Not going to take another month or 2 for sure. Most likely end of September. The longest part and hardest part for them is doing the custom forms for shipment. Since there are over 70 orders, it will take them some time, but if it is going to be later than the end of the month, I'd say a week later than that..
It makes sense considering these boards, it really isn't that much worse if we had to wait till a week into October. Thanks for the update Elton I'm sure everyone who is a part of this GB appreciates it.
Post by: paobit on Mon, 15 September 2014, 00:16:27
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 15 September 2014, 00:29:06
lol anyone whos gotten someone to assemble their keyboard for them..how long does it usually take to assemble a keyboard? Since I have no experience, I was able to get someone to assemble it for me through "artisan services." anyone doing the same thing?
I guess it depends on the person. Assembling a board doesn't take too long, an hour - 2 at most. I had a board assembled by WFD and it took me 4 months to get my keyboard...never again and since then I learned to do it myself lol
Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 15 September 2014, 00:31:53
lol anyone whos gotten someone to assemble their keyboard for them..how long does it usually take to assemble a keyboard? Since I have no experience, I was able to get someone to assemble it for me through "artisan services." anyone doing the same thing?
I'm going to assemble mine myself. I was planning to practice my soldering skills on other projects before I would build my Viper. I don't want to ruin this beautiful piece. :)) :))
Post by: paobit on Mon, 15 September 2014, 01:09:36
lol anyone whos gotten someone to assemble their keyboard for them..how long does it usually take to assemble a keyboard? Since I have no experience, I was able to get someone to assemble it for me through "artisan services." anyone doing the same thing?
I guess it depends on the person. Assembling a board doesn't take too long, an hour - 2 at most. I had a board assembled by WFD and it took me 4 months to get my keyboard...never again and since then I learned to do it myself lol
what in the F..4 months? hmm maybe I should just do it myself
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 15 September 2014, 01:20:22
lol anyone whos gotten someone to assemble their keyboard for them..how long does it usually take to assemble a keyboard? Since I have no experience, I was able to get someone to assemble it for me through "artisan services." anyone doing the same thing?
I guess it depends on the person. Assembling a board doesn't take too long, an hour - 2 at most. I had a board assembled by WFD and it took me 4 months to get my keyboard...never again and since then I learned to do it myself lol
what in the F..4 months? hmm maybe I should just do it myself
To be fair, WFD dropped off the face of the earth for the most part, and experience with him does not reflect the experience you'll have with other builders...he's a terrible example of what to expect.
Post by: paobit on Mon, 15 September 2014, 01:24:54
lol anyone whos gotten someone to assemble their keyboard for them..how long does it usually take to assemble a keyboard? Since I have no experience, I was able to get someone to assemble it for me through "artisan services." anyone doing the same thing?
I guess it depends on the person. Assembling a board doesn't take too long, an hour - 2 at most. I had a board assembled by WFD and it took me 4 months to get my keyboard...never again and since then I learned to do it
myself lol
what in the F..4 months? hmm maybe I should just do it myself
To be fair, WFD dropped off the face of the earth for the most part, and experience with him does not reflect the experience you'll have with other builders...he's a terrible example of what to expect.
True.. Just any soldering skills I have is non-existant so I'd rather have a professional do it since this is a pretty expensive piece of hardware. My GON should be coming soon and that can stave off the wait for the duck assembly...what's another month or 2 for assembly right? (for the most part I hope) lol
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 15 September 2014, 01:43:31
Great communication, fast assembly, and even faster shipping.
Totally recommend if you're 'Murican.
Post by: paobit on Mon, 15 September 2014, 01:46:28
I'm getting mine built by tjcaustin, and he also built my Duck Light Pad.
Great communication, fast assembly, and even faster shipping.
Totally recommend if you're 'Murican.
Getting mine done by dorkvader. It'll be my first time dealing with him or in general that has anything to do with assembling keyboards. Very prompt with replies and stayed on top of things in terms of answering questions/parts compatibility =)
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 15 September 2014, 01:49:34
I'm getting mine built by tjcaustin, and he also built my Duck Light Pad.
Great communication, fast assembly, and even faster shipping.
Totally recommend if you're 'Murican.
Getting mine done by dorkvader. It'll be my first time dealing with him or in general that has anything to do with assembling keyboards. Very prompt with replies and stayed on top of things in terms of answering questions/parts compatibility =)
You've definitely got nothing to worry about then. You're in more than capable hands :thumb:
Post by: paobit on Mon, 15 September 2014, 01:52:08
I'm getting mine built by tjcaustin, and he also built my Duck Light Pad.
Great communication, fast assembly, and even faster shipping.
Totally recommend if you're 'Murican.
Getting mine done by dorkvader. It'll be my first time dealing with him or in general that has anything to do with assembling keyboards. Very prompt with replies and stayed on top of things in terms of answering questions/parts compatibility =)
You've definitely got nothing to worry about then. You're in more than capable hands :thumb:
Woooo! Now more excited than ever
Post by: pasph on Mon, 15 September 2014, 02:04:54
I had a board assembled by WFD and it took me 4 months to get my keyboard...
Lucky you...
Post by: Shiftshape on Mon, 15 September 2014, 04:11:04
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 15 September 2014, 05:04:28
Is it still possible to join this? I see the deadline was in August, but it's still listed in ongoing.(http://vansunsportsblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/magic-8-ball-e1349685270211.jpg)
Post by: demik on Mon, 15 September 2014, 13:54:59
I'm getting mine built by tjcaustin, and he also built my Duck Light Pad.
Great communication, fast assembly, and even faster shipping.
Totally recommend if you're 'Murican.
TJCAUSTIN TRUE AMERICAN HERO
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 17 September 2014, 12:48:03
Post by: ceflame on Wed, 17 September 2014, 13:08:08
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 17 September 2014, 13:10:48
Post by: ceflame on Wed, 17 September 2014, 13:18:28
Make up your mind already. Lol no it's not possible...colours are fixed now.
Are you kidding me, I just asked you literally one time, and took another chance since you said someone could order again. No need to be the biggest douchebag about it dude...
On the same note, anyone want to trade a blue-grey eagle for a black?
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 17 September 2014, 13:25:37
Douchebag? Seriously?
These are made to order. There aren't extras where I can trade your order with another colour...
Post by: ceflame on Wed, 17 September 2014, 13:29:53
Post by: gropingmantis on Thu, 18 September 2014, 04:27:22
Post by: cphead on Thu, 18 September 2014, 05:04:40
Is there any way/place to get just the viper case? Built in hhkb blockers!
You wouldn't be able to use it without the viper pcb I think.
Post by: Sent on Thu, 18 September 2014, 05:45:04
If anyone still wants one can order.
Self-control failing...
Post by: feizor on Thu, 18 September 2014, 06:02:18
Is there any way/place to get just the viper case? Built in hhkb blockers!
You will need a viper design PCB because the blockers are solid and part of the case haha.
Unless you are considering chopping up the pcb yourself...
Post by: deci on Fri, 19 September 2014, 02:31:46
If anyone still wants one can order.
OMG. PM sent :eek:
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 19 September 2014, 02:38:41
Post by: Elocutive on Fri, 19 September 2014, 06:04:47
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 08:27:24
This won't affect anything
Post by: Gh05tx on Fri, 19 September 2014, 12:14:30
Yes, fill in the order form. You guys will be on the 2nd batch and will be shipped 2-3 weeks after the 1st batch that ordered earlier.Am I in the 1st or 2nd batch?
This won't affect anything
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 19 September 2014, 12:33:30
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 19 September 2014, 13:17:10
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 14:16:50
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 21 September 2014, 23:34:11
Post by: demik on Sun, 21 September 2014, 23:38:37
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Tue, 23 September 2014, 07:10:36
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 23 September 2014, 15:08:51
When would payment be due for the second batch Elton? thanks =)
ASAP if possible. I'm not going to take more than 10 and probably stop by the end of the week.
Post by: Tiramisuu on Tue, 23 September 2014, 17:25:16
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 23 September 2014, 17:34:30
.... I've discovered that I'd like one of everything. This could get expensive. Must... Not... Click... Button...just get one of each while you can
Post by: Elocutive on Tue, 23 September 2014, 18:55:44
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:20:28
Are there any pictures of what the red viper looks like?
Not really, but there are several pictures of red Lightsavers or Duck Mini's. Pictures of a red Lightsaver can be found here http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keyboards/products/lightsaber
Post by: Elocutive on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:26:45
What are those keycaps on the red lightsaver? I would pull the plug and get the red viper right now if I knew what keycaps those are. They compliment the red perfectly.Are there any pictures of what the red viper looks like?
Not really, but there are several pictures of red Lightsavers or Duck Mini's. Pictures of a red Lightsaver can be found here http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keyboards/products/lightsaber
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:34:57
Post by: paobit on Tue, 23 September 2014, 19:43:03
.... I've discovered that I'd like one of everything. This could get expensive. Must... Not... Click... Button...
Open up a credit card with 12 month no interest =)..shouldn't be too hard to find
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 24 September 2014, 15:16:21
What are those keycaps on the red lightsaver?
Isn't that Red Alert?
The original Red Alert, yep. That's the only round to feature those custom legends on backspace and other keys.
See the second round GB thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31887.0) for info on both second and first round.
Klaxon was the third round, run most recently, by tjcaustin.
It's a fairly prevalent set, but still somewhat hard to come by, as most people don't let it go.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 24 September 2014, 18:07:35
I mean, Duck wouldn't make us wait forever, would he?
Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 24 September 2014, 22:15:46
These gotta be close to shopping now, right?
I mean, Duck wouldn't make us wait forever, would he?
I thought that the rest of the stuff from the leftovers sale was supposed to ship with the vipers and eagles. That stuff shipped yesterday... :-\
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 24 September 2014, 22:26:44
Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 24 September 2014, 22:28:13
I guess not. I was told the 1st batch will ship over the weekend.
Ah, that isn't so bad. Thanks for the update.
Post by: Sent on Wed, 24 September 2014, 22:28:40
I guess not. I was told the 1st batch will ship over the weekend.
Not in any rush or anything but how far behind the first batch is the second one? Looking at a few weeks or months?
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 24 September 2014, 22:29:14
Also, if anyone is interested I can get the side acrylic inserts for $4 a pair. I'll make an order form tomorrow.
Only normal ones, not sand blasted (frosted) ones.
Post by: Synjin on Wed, 24 September 2014, 22:31:03
I guess not. I was told the 1st batch will ship over the weekend.
Total Keyboard Boner acquired in a matter of seconds =)
This is great news. It will take approximately a week to arrive after it is shipped over the weekend won't it?
Post by: Sent on Wed, 24 September 2014, 22:32:16
2-3 weeks I've been told.
Also, if anyone is interested I can get the side acrylic inserts for $4 a pair. I'll make an order form tomorrow.
Only normal ones, not sand blasted (frosted) ones.
Faster than I would've thought. Awesome to hear.
And yay. Acrylic inserts. :)
Post by: Synjin on Wed, 24 September 2014, 22:34:47
2-3 weeks I've been told.
Also, if anyone is interested I can get the side acrylic inserts for $4 a pair. I'll make an order form tomorrow.
Only normal ones, not sand blasted (frosted) ones.
Will this be a group buy for the acrylic inserts? I'm definitely interested in these,also, will the acrylic ship together with the board?
Post by: deci on Wed, 24 September 2014, 22:45:33
Post by: minho on Wed, 24 September 2014, 23:00:56
2-3 weeks I've been told.I'd be down. Do they ship with the keyboard?
Also, if anyone is interested I can get the side acrylic inserts for $4 a pair. I'll make an order form tomorrow.
Only normal ones, not sand blasted (frosted) ones.
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 24 September 2014, 23:04:11
Post by: jorgenslee on Wed, 24 September 2014, 23:07:43
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 24 September 2014, 23:08:24
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 24 September 2014, 23:29:36
No it won't. I'll have them shipped to me.
Will these be for the Viper/Eagle only, or could there be some for the Light Pad, LightSaver etc.?
Either way, I'm in, with my thanks.
EDIT: Saw your answer in the LightSaver GB thread.
You're too awesome!
Post by: Motan22 on Thu, 25 September 2014, 01:40:06
Post by: xybre on Thu, 25 September 2014, 04:18:53
Also, if anyone is interested I can get the side acrylic inserts for $4 a pair. I'll make an order form tomorrow.
Only normal ones, not sand blasted (frosted) ones.
Sure I'm down. Just clear?
Post by: evolveS on Thu, 25 September 2014, 09:14:23
Post by: Kmynis on Thu, 25 September 2014, 09:17:29
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 25 September 2014, 09:41:56
Fill up form if interested in the side inserts
These are the inserts we're talking about
http://duck0113.tistory.com/88
Shipping costs:
If you think shipping by padded envelope is safe enough and if it fits the req., then it will be like $3.5 to US and $6-7 to international. This will include the cost of padded envelope.
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 25 September 2014, 10:41:57
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1JF3Z_Wox5JC7_Fcla1fHPLuZURSXM9OdYFvwBs78DLo/viewform
Fill up form if interested in the side inserts
These are the inserts we're talking about
http://duck0113.tistory.com/88
Shipping costs:
If you think shipping by padded envelope is safe enough and if it fits the req., then it will be like $3.5 to US and $6-7 to international. This will include the cost of padded envelope.
How many pairs will fit in the padded envelope?
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 25 September 2014, 13:55:03
Thanks Elton!
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 27 September 2014, 10:57:13
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1JF3Z_Wox5JC7_Fcla1fHPLuZURSXM9OdYFvwBs78DLo/viewform
Fill up form if interested in the side inserts
These are the inserts we're talking about
http://duck0113.tistory.com/88
Shipping costs:
If you think shipping by padded envelope is safe enough and if it fits the req., then it will be like $3.5 to US and $6-7 to international. This will include the cost of padded envelope.
How many pairs will fit in the padded envelope?
I'm not sure..I haven't tried fitting 2 of the ones I have on hand in an envelope yet.
Post by: Motan22 on Sat, 27 September 2014, 12:32:20
Post by: paobit on Sat, 27 September 2014, 12:43:54
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 27 September 2014, 14:54:17
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sat, 27 September 2014, 15:26:27
Where mah trackin' numbers at :p
Post by: bounstar on Sat, 27 September 2014, 23:38:34
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sun, 28 September 2014, 01:54:18
Inserts look good. Is it true that the only way to attach them is with tape?Yup.
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 28 September 2014, 09:13:29
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 28 September 2014, 22:16:22
I'll probably stop collecting after next weekend, so we can have this in our hands quicker.
Each set is $4 + whatever gift payment fee you would have to pay to send the money to me.
Make sure you make a note stating your username, name, etc on the comment so I know who you are
I think you guys who ordered from me before have my paypal email already. If you don't send me a PM.
EDIT: I FORGOT ABOUT THE SHIPPING...
I still don't know the exact amount yet..do you guys prefer to pay the shipping fee when I get them?
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 28 September 2014, 22:22:09
I forgot to mention that I would prefer you guys send me the payment for the acrylic side inserts via gift payment instead of me having to invoice you guys (over 50 right now).
I'll probably stop collecting after next weekend, so we can have this in our hands quicker.
Each set is $4 + whatever gift payment fee you would have to pay to send the money to me.
Make sure you make a note stating your username, name, etc on the comment so I know who you are
I think you guys who ordered from me before have my paypal email already. If you don't send me a PM.
EDIT: I FORGOT ABOUT THE SHIPPING...
I still don't know the exact amount yet..do you guys prefer to pay the shipping fee when I get them?
I think it would probably be simpler to pay all at once.
Post by: Sent on Sun, 28 September 2014, 23:08:52
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 28 September 2014, 23:33:06
Canada: up to 6 sets - $3
US: up to 3 sets - $4.50
up to 6 sets - $6
International: up to 3 sets - $7
up to 6 sets - $11
To send me money
= # of sets ($4 per set) + shipping to you (above) + shipping to me ($0.75) + PayPal Gift Fee
Post by: Sent on Mon, 29 September 2014, 00:18:20
Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 29 September 2014, 00:28:18
Ok, I can safely say these prices are right.. This is with the cheapest option with padded envelope. If you want a better shipping option, let me know. I'm going to add $0.75 per order for these to ship to me.
Canada: up to 6 sets - $3
US: up to 3 sets - $4.50
up to 6 sets - $6
International: up to 3 sets - $7
up to 6 sets - $11
To send me money
= # of sets ($4 per set) + shipping to you (above) + shipping to me ($0.75) + PayPal Gift Fee
should we use the email from the invoice?
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 29 September 2014, 00:39:44
I forgot to mention that I would prefer you guys send me the payment for the acrylic side inserts via gift payment instead of me having to invoice you guys (over 50 right now).
I'll probably stop collecting after next weekend, so we can have this in our hands quicker.
Each set is $4 + whatever gift payment fee you would have to pay to send the money to me.
Make sure you make a note stating your username, name, etc on the comment so I know who you are
I think you guys who ordered from me before have my paypal email already. If you don't send me a PM.
EDIT: I FORGOT ABOUT THE SHIPPING...
I still don't know the exact amount yet..do you guys prefer to pay the shipping fee when I get them?
Ok, I can safely say these prices are right.. This is with the cheapest option with padded envelope. If you want a better shipping option, let me know. I'm going to add $0.75 per order for these to ship to me.
Canada: up to 6 sets - $3
US: up to 3 sets - $4.50
up to 6 sets - $6
International: up to 3 sets - $7
up to 6 sets - $11
To send me money
= # of sets ($4 per set) + shipping to you (above) + shipping to me ($0.75) + PayPal Gift Fee
should we use the email from the invoice?
Yes
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 29 September 2014, 00:45:38
Ok, I can safely say these prices are right.. This is with the cheapest option with padded envelope. If you want a better shipping option, let me know. I'm going to add $0.75 per order for these to ship to me.
Canada: up to 6 sets - $3
US: up to 3 sets - $4.50
up to 6 sets - $6
International: up to 3 sets - $7
up to 6 sets - $11
To send me money
= # of sets ($4 per set) + shipping to you (above) + shipping to me ($0.75) + PayPal Gift Fee
Paid!
Post by: minho on Mon, 29 September 2014, 01:32:00
Ok, I can safely say these prices are right.. This is with the cheapest option with padded envelope. If you want a better shipping option, let me know. I'm going to add $0.75 per order for these to ship to me.
Canada: up to 6 sets - $3
US: up to 3 sets - $4.50
up to 6 sets - $6
International: up to 3 sets - $7
up to 6 sets - $11
To send me money
= # of sets ($4 per set) + shipping to you (above) + shipping to me ($0.75) + PayPal Gift Fee
I thought Paypal doesn't have a gift fee, only a pay for goods fee?
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 29 September 2014, 01:47:35
Fairly certain my math isn't off.
Post by: epzy on Mon, 29 September 2014, 01:59:48
Ok, I can safely say these prices are right.. This is with the cheapest option with padded envelope. If you want a better shipping option, let me know. I'm going to add $0.75 per order for these to ship to me.
Canada: up to 6 sets - $3
US: up to 3 sets - $4.50
up to 6 sets - $6
International: up to 3 sets - $7
up to 6 sets - $11
To send me money
= # of sets ($4 per set) + shipping to you (above) + shipping to me ($0.75) + PayPal Gift Fee
I thought Paypal doesn't have a gift fee, only a pay for goods fee?
I can choose between 'pay as goods' or 'send money to friends/family'. If I send the money as goods, the seller pays the fees, but if I send the money as gift to friends/family I have to pay the fees myself.
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 29 September 2014, 08:54:25
Dat 75% - http://duck0113.tistory.com/99 :) :) :)
Post by: tadbitnerdy on Mon, 29 September 2014, 11:12:04
-Tad
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 29 September 2014, 11:16:43
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 29 September 2014, 12:09:58
Are the 75% inserts the same size as Duck/Eagle, or will there be a separate order form for those acrylic inserts in the future?
I'm not sure if they're the same size, but I am including it along with the others.
Post by: deci on Mon, 29 September 2014, 14:26:14
Post by: cphead on Mon, 29 September 2014, 14:40:42
Post by: phatdood9 on Mon, 29 September 2014, 14:55:42
2 * $4 per set + $4.50 shipping + $.75 = $13.25
Correct?
I thought that with gifts, the buyer pays any fees ?
Post by: Karura on Mon, 29 September 2014, 16:09:31
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 29 September 2014, 16:33:33
So for USA 2 sets is it:
2 * $4 per set + $4.50 shipping + $.75 = $13.25
Correct?
I thought that with gifts, the buyer pays any fees ?
Yes that's correct..
I'm not sure, but before you send it to me, there's an option for you to click whether you want me to pay the fee or you pay the fee.
Post by: phatdood9 on Mon, 29 September 2014, 17:11:00
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 29 September 2014, 17:27:44
Post by: xybre on Mon, 29 September 2014, 17:53:58
Post by: Synjin on Mon, 29 September 2014, 19:39:11
Post by: Xenderwind on Mon, 29 September 2014, 20:42:41
Post by: Synjin on Mon, 29 September 2014, 20:44:27
Paid for 2x insert sets....totally blanked though and forgot to include my username when I sent it. I was too busy making sure I sent the right amount :S. I'll send you a pm.
I actually did the exact same thing. I noted all of the calculation and the items I ordered yet I did not include my username T_T
Post by: evolveS on Mon, 29 September 2014, 20:57:40
Post by: cooldiscretion on Mon, 29 September 2014, 22:03:16
Post by: Karura on Mon, 29 September 2014, 23:35:52
Post by: feizor on Tue, 30 September 2014, 02:45:08
Just a heads up I am looking to take over an order (Eagle in black) if anyone is letting go of theirs, thanks!
Aren't orders still open? You should message Elton first.
Post by: Karura on Tue, 30 September 2014, 09:27:48
Good idea, I've done that :)Just a heads up I am looking to take over an order (Eagle in black) if anyone is letting go of theirs, thanks!
Aren't orders still open? You should message Elton first.
I just assumed it was closed due to the OP post. My wallet is ready!
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 30 September 2014, 13:00:25
Post by: cooldiscretion on Tue, 30 September 2014, 13:21:30
Have you started invoicing for the inserts Elton? Even the Orion ones?
He mentioned in this thread a few posts back that he would rather you calculate payment, add in
recommended shipping costs, and send payment to him via PayPal as a gift.
Post by: pasph on Wed, 01 October 2014, 18:34:04
Post by: Synjin on Wed, 01 October 2014, 18:48:11
Post by: demik on Thu, 02 October 2014, 08:22:00
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 02 October 2014, 08:45:58
I have no idea why this thread was locked yesterday. I tried to unlock it but was restricted by admin.
Post by: demik on Thu, 02 October 2014, 08:48:28
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 02 October 2014, 09:05:54
They are delayed a little. It is still in the packing process.. Sorry about that.I'm assuming late October then? Oh well at least it is still not that far away ^^
I have no idea why this thread was locked yesterday. I tried to unlock it but was restricted by admin.
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 02 October 2014, 09:58:10
Post by: xybre on Thu, 02 October 2014, 10:08:14
They are delayed a little. It is still in the packing process.. Sorry about that.I'm assuming late October then? Oh well at least it is still not that far away ^^
I have no idea why this thread was locked yesterday. I tried to unlock it but was restricted by admin.
So are we looking at more like Halloween, or more like Christmas? :D
Post by: demik on Thu, 02 October 2014, 10:46:11
Post by: xybre on Thu, 02 October 2014, 10:49:04
Damn just going to skip over thanksgiving like that?
Yeah I was trying to be internationally sensitive, I don't know what fall festivals people celebrate but I'm pretty sure it doesn't involve pilgrims and (american) indians. ;)
Post by: demik on Thu, 02 October 2014, 10:54:08
Post by: deci on Thu, 02 October 2014, 12:59:18
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 02 October 2014, 13:59:32
Post by: Motan22 on Thu, 02 October 2014, 14:06:18
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 03 October 2014, 03:43:39
(http://i.imgur.com/ULpGH2j.png)
Post by: minho on Fri, 03 October 2014, 09:36:58
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 03 October 2014, 09:56:36
Just paid for a set of inserts. There wasn't any mention of Paypal fees though, so elton please say if you received all the money from me (I put my forum username in the notes of the payment).
If payment is sent as a gift, it sometimes charges a small fee although if a certain account is used on your paypal to pay for the gift then it won't charge you the fee
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 03 October 2014, 15:25:42
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 03 October 2014, 16:29:51
Post by: Sent on Fri, 03 October 2014, 16:39:44
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 03 October 2014, 16:45:02
For once, I don't mind if the board is a bit delayed. I still need to find stabs and pick up switches. :'(
Got my switches from 7bit and Qwer.io has some stabs left (only 5 2x PCB).
Post by: demik on Fri, 03 October 2014, 17:10:32
For once, I don't mind if the board is a bit delayed. I still need to find stabs and pick up switches. :'(
Me too ;_;
Post by: Sent on Fri, 03 October 2014, 17:15:46
Got my switches from 7bit and Qwer.io has some stabs left (only 5 2x PCB).
Thanks for the link to the stabs. :thumb: Just picked up what I needed.
Post by: paobit on Fri, 03 October 2014, 19:56:05
Post by: feizor on Fri, 03 October 2014, 19:59:20
what are stabs? i got my switches and stabilizers...would i need to buy stabs too?
stabs = stabilizers
Post by: paobit on Sat, 04 October 2014, 01:19:54
Post by: Sent on Sat, 04 October 2014, 01:44:33
what are stabs? i got my switches and stabilizers...would i need to buy stabs too?
I'm just too lazy to type out stabilizer. Lol.
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 11:20:37
I just found a person didn't give the right amount (just started doing the first 3..). Please calculate it right before sending..I'm going to PM those who didn't send the right amount and to confirm their order.
Again it's;
$4 * amount of insert + listed shipping cost + $0.75 + if there are any paypal fees for gift payment
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 04 October 2014, 11:47:17
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 12:20:47
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 04 October 2014, 12:25:40
There are actually a lot of people that didn't put their names on the order form..I'm just going to use their paypal's name and copy it to the address column..(sometimes it doesn't match), but I'm not going to PM every single one for their names..
Mine should be good if I placed my name on the PM I sent you?
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 12:26:50
There are actually a lot of people that didn't put their names on the order form..I'm just going to use their paypal's name and copy it to the address column..(sometimes it doesn't match), but I'm not going to PM every single one for their names..
Mine should be good if I placed my name on the PM I sent you?
you're fine.
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 12:45:59
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mlGWvNuk5QabOohBKYSD2rcQFcjALC0BZWs1RB1lV1E/pubhtml?gid=0&single=true
Post by: Gh05tx on Sat, 04 October 2014, 16:04:00
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 04 October 2014, 16:28:51
Post by: ceflame on Sat, 04 October 2014, 16:36:06
Though I guess it really depends on who you're buying it from.
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 04 October 2014, 17:04:48
I got some of those 2x3x4 LEDs from aliexpress and it took almost a month to arrive. Ebay took a week, both from China.how much was the price difference as well as color options?
Though I guess it really depends on who you're buying it from.
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 04 October 2014, 17:15:14
Post by: ceflame on Sat, 04 October 2014, 17:28:22
I got some of those 2x3x4 LEDs from aliexpress and it took almost a month to arrive. Ebay took a week, both from China.how much was the price difference as well as color options?
Though I guess it really depends on who you're buying it from.
Well, I got the cyan and light blue LED's from aliexpress for like $5-7, which are definitely the rarer colors, but I got 100 standard green 2x3x4 leds off ebay for $6 as well.
Ebay actually has a pretty good selection of colors: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC1.A0.H0.X2x3x4+leds&_nkw=2x3x4+leds&_sacat=0
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 17:46:36
Post by: ceflame on Sat, 04 October 2014, 17:49:38
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 04 October 2014, 17:52:26
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 06 October 2014, 15:51:18
Post by: rockhawksam on Tue, 07 October 2014, 06:50:04
Post by: MrChunky on Tue, 07 October 2014, 15:48:03
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 07 October 2014, 16:49:46
You can still pay for the inserts.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 07 October 2014, 17:15:59
Ugh...
Post by: Vintage on Tue, 07 October 2014, 17:36:34
Post by: demik on Tue, 07 October 2014, 21:54:13
They are done packing, now they need to fill in the paper work..I've been told a couple more days..sorry about the delay.
You can still pay for the inserts.
everything? or just first round?
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 07 October 2014, 22:05:36
Post by: Sent on Tue, 07 October 2014, 22:40:44
They are done packing, now they need to fill in the paper work..I've been told a couple more days..sorry about the delay.
You can still pay for the inserts.
everything? or just first round?
Oh man if second round is also done... :eek:
Post by: demik on Tue, 07 October 2014, 23:04:02
They are done packing, now they need to fill in the paper work..I've been told a couple more days..sorry about the delay.
You can still pay for the inserts.
everything? or just first round?
Oh man if second round is also done... :eek:
We'll get drunk to celebrate
Post by: mashby on Thu, 09 October 2014, 16:35:44
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 09 October 2014, 18:25:54
Post by: deci on Thu, 09 October 2014, 19:11:25
Does anyone know what the dimensions are for the Duck viper and eagle? I'm looking into buying a case/sleeve for my keyboards but I do not really know the dimensions.
Should be same size as most other 60% keyboards like poker and hhkb.
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 09 October 2014, 19:20:41
Post by: deci on Thu, 09 October 2014, 19:42:29
so a 12 inch sleeve will fit these boards then?
Yes it will. I'm guessing you're asking about the Grifiti one's on md right now?
If so you can see the sizes better here:
http://www.grifiti.com/chitons
It's faster and cheaper (if you have prime) to just buy it off amazon though:
http://www.amazon.com/Keyboard-Wireless-bluetooth-Logitech-Keyboards/dp/B00IJS5MB2
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 09 October 2014, 21:31:25
Post by: Vintage on Thu, 09 October 2014, 22:29:54
Yeah but I think the Viper/Eagle is higher than a standard board.Does anyone know what the dimensions are for the Duck viper and eagle? I'm looking into buying a case/sleeve for my keyboards but I do not really know the dimensions.
Should be same size as most other 60% keyboards like poker and hhkb.
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 09 October 2014, 22:53:39
Post by: deci on Thu, 09 October 2014, 23:03:30
unfortunately amazon doesnt have the 12 fat grifiti available. They only have 14 and up
Um isn't the one I linked a 12?
Yeah but I think the Viper/Eagle is higher than a standard board.Does anyone know what the dimensions are for the Duck viper and eagle? I'm looking into buying a case/sleeve for my keyboards but I do not really know the dimensions.
Should be same size as most other 60% keyboards like poker and hhkb.
Really? I thought they were almost exactly the same size as hhkb and cases are stretchy.
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 09 October 2014, 23:15:58
unfortunately amazon doesnt have the 12 fat grifiti available. They only have 14 and up
Um isn't the one I linked a 12?Yeah but I think the Viper/Eagle is higher than a standard board.Does anyone know what the dimensions are for the Duck viper and eagle? I'm looking into buying a case/sleeve for my keyboards but I do not really know the dimensions.
Should be same size as most other 60% keyboards like poker and hhkb.
Really? I thought they were almost exactly the same size as hhkb and cases are stretchy.
the amazon link you posted is a 12 but it's for slim keyboards
and the eagle and viper should be a little taller because of the angle that's built into the case
(http://cfile4.uf.tistory.com/image/2756AC4752C2EFA207682F)
Post by: deci on Thu, 09 October 2014, 23:57:50
unfortunately amazon doesnt have the 12 fat grifiti available. They only have 14 and up
Um isn't the one I linked a 12?Yeah but I think the Viper/Eagle is higher than a standard board.Does anyone know what the dimensions are for the Duck viper and eagle? I'm looking into buying a case/sleeve for my keyboards but I do not really know the dimensions.
Should be same size as most other 60% keyboards like poker and hhkb.
Really? I thought they were almost exactly the same size as hhkb and cases are stretchy.
the amazon link you posted is a 12 but it's for slim keyboards
and the eagle and viper should be a little taller because of the angle that's built into the caseShow Image(http://cfile4.uf.tistory.com/image/2756AC4752C2EFA207682F)
Oh you right. I didn't even notice they had a fat one. My bad.
Um honestly I recommend the 60% soft case from keychatter. It costs $20 vs $10 though.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sat, 11 October 2014, 12:03:00
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 11 October 2014, 12:11:33
Post by: Rewind on Sat, 11 October 2014, 12:29:09
It will be shipped this Monday or Tuesday! *fingers crossed*(http://i.imgur.com/2roh9QL.gif)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 11 October 2014, 14:07:27
It will be shipped this Monday or Tuesday! *fingers crossed*
Wooooo!
3 Korean customs in a month... I'm not sure if my body is ready.
Post by: demik on Sat, 11 October 2014, 14:19:15
It will be shipped this Monday or Tuesday! *fingers crossed*
all or just first wave?
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 11 October 2014, 16:40:11
It will be shipped this Monday or Tuesday! *fingers crossed*
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/yesss.gif)
It will be shipped this Monday or Tuesday! *fingers crossed*
Wooooo!
3 Korean customs in a month... I'm not sure if my body is ready.
Teach me.
Post by: Sent on Sat, 11 October 2014, 17:40:23
It will be shipped this Monday or Tuesday! *fingers crossed*
all or just first wave?
Yeah, should I be worried I don't have the rest of my parts, yet? :-X
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 11 October 2014, 18:36:05
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 11 October 2014, 20:41:10
I have't gotten my switches and springs yet T_T Guess I better order them today ^_^
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 11 October 2014, 23:40:12
Is it going to be 2 weeks from date of shipping before they arrive within the U.S.?
I have't gotten my switches and springs yet T_T Guess I better order them today ^_^
My kingsaver took 3 or 4 days to arrive, including customs handling time. Crazy fast for Intl shipping, but we sure paid for it.
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 11 October 2014, 23:45:12
Post by: ebacho on Sat, 11 October 2014, 23:49:19
Post by: demik on Sat, 11 October 2014, 23:58:35
i've had stuff shipped on friday and be here on monday, tuesday at the latest.
Post by: Sent on Sat, 11 October 2014, 23:59:45
EMS shipping is real pretty much.
Yeah, EMS is great. I've never had anything take more than a week to get to me through EMS. Usually 3-5 days.
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 12 October 2014, 00:46:02
Post by: ebacho on Sun, 12 October 2014, 00:48:09
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 12 October 2014, 01:02:45
Post by: Sent on Sun, 12 October 2014, 01:55:18
Great ^_^ That means my springs and PCB will be arriving sooner than I expected. Unfortunately I still need to purchase my switches T_T
Luckily, that shouldn't be all that difficult unless you're looking for something really odd/rare.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sun, 12 October 2014, 02:21:54
Unfortunately I still need to purchase my switches T_TMechanicalkeyboards.com, sucka.
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 12 October 2014, 09:01:07
Post by: Vintage on Sun, 12 October 2014, 18:23:54
And mk.com is really good.
Post by: demik on Sun, 12 October 2014, 18:41:54
Still deciding on weather I want clears or blues xD.
And mk.com is really good.
so if it rains it's blues and if it's clear... clears?
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sun, 12 October 2014, 18:43:44
so if it rains it's blues and if it's clear... clears?This guy...
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:56:09
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/860/490/1b0331df5a8ca57bfe6089fb2474d74c.jpg)
Post by: billnye on Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:57:11
I wonder if they shipped today.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/860/490/1b0331df5a8ca57bfe6089fb2474d74c.jpg)
:-X :-X :-X pls
Post by: Sent on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:28:04
I wonder if they shipped today.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/860/490/1b0331df5a8ca57bfe6089fb2474d74c.jpg)
It's been a while since I've been so impatient to get something from GH, but...damn. I want my Viper. :))
Post by: epzy on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:28:47
I wonder if they shipped today.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/860/490/1b0331df5a8ca57bfe6089fb2474d74c.jpg)
mmmmm, that is 3good
Post by: Synjin on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:35:41
I wonder if they shipped today.I hope it shipped today as well although it inst much difference if it ships out tomorrow. The keyboards should arrive approximately by the end of this week within the U.S. if it ships tomorrow correct?Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/860/490/1b0331df5a8ca57bfe6089fb2474d74c.jpg)
Post by: Sent on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:36:53
I hope it shipped today as well although it inst much difference if it ships out tomorrow. The keyboards should arrive approximately by the end of this week within the U.S. if it ships tomorrow correct?
In theory, yeah. Probably still depends a bit on where you are in the CONUS. I really hope Round 2 is included. Fingers crossed...so hard.
Post by: Synjin on Mon, 13 October 2014, 19:43:08
Post by: cooldiscretion on Mon, 13 October 2014, 22:23:03
I wonder if they shipped today.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/860/490/1b0331df5a8ca57bfe6089fb2474d74c.jpg)
Oh my. What is that bottom keyboard? Is it possible you already have a Viper?
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 13 October 2014, 22:38:18
Oh my. What is that bottom keyboard? Is it possible you already have a Viper?I copped the image from kbdlab.
I wish I was typing on mine right now.
Post by: cooldiscretion on Mon, 13 October 2014, 22:43:08
Oh my. What is that bottom keyboard? Is it possible you already have a Viper?I copped the image from kbdlab.
I wish I was typing on mine right now.
I wonder if there are others from the Pac NW getting in on this group buy. :))
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 14 October 2014, 13:17:51
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 14 October 2014, 13:42:09
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 14 October 2014, 18:09:16
As for the inserts, I'll get them in a couple weeks.
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 14 October 2014, 18:11:02
I thought I'd ask since I know that the question will eventually be asked by someone even if I was originally in the first batch of orders.
Post by: Sent on Tue, 14 October 2014, 18:19:45
Pretty reasonable since the inserts were more recent. Is it safe to assume that our orders will be arriving on this week since it's through EMS and will the second batch will be sent in approximately 1-2 weeks from yesterday?
I thought I'd ask since I know that the question will eventually be asked by someone even if I was originally in the first batch of orders.
You know Demik and I will be asking about that second batch. :)) Excited to see stuff shipped out, though, even if it's not my order.
Post by: ComradeSniper on Tue, 14 October 2014, 18:24:45
The 1st batch was sent out yesterday. I will update the tracking when I get them.
As for the inserts, I'll get them in a couple weeks.
(http://i.imgur.com/nGWx3xh.jpg)
edit: ****ty image hosting is ****ty
Post by: demik on Tue, 14 October 2014, 18:28:30
got my stabs today too!Pretty reasonable since the inserts were more recent. Is it safe to assume that our orders will be arriving on this week since it's through EMS and will the second batch will be sent in approximately 1-2 weeks from yesterday?
I thought I'd ask since I know that the question will eventually be asked by someone even if I was originally in the first batch of orders.
You know Demik and I will be asking about that second batch. :)) Excited to see stuff shipped out, though, even if it's not my order.
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 14 October 2014, 18:49:39
The 1st batch was sent out yesterday. I will update the tracking when I get them.
As for the inserts, I'll get them in a couple weeks.
I have to try my hardest to not post a hilarious reaction gif. Really excited! :eek:
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 14 October 2014, 19:18:54
The 1st batch was sent out yesterday. I will update the tracking when I get them.
As for the inserts, I'll get them in a couple weeks.
A bit confused about the 75% Duck inserts. Did you end up getting the final specs to cut them? Or are they the same as Eagle/Viper?
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 14 October 2014, 20:36:41
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 15 October 2014, 02:35:38
Post by: bazh on Wed, 15 October 2014, 05:33:55
Post by: rockhawksam on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:05:38
hell yeah first batch \m/Sorry for my ineptitude but how do I figure out if I am in the first batch?
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:10:37
hell yeah first batch \m/Sorry for my ineptitude but how do I figure out if I am in the first batch?
Same question. :)
I am excite.
Post by: Synjin on Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:22:09
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 15 October 2014, 11:10:50
Post by: rockhawksam on Wed, 15 October 2014, 12:03:42
Post by: bazh on Wed, 15 October 2014, 12:54:24
hell yeah first batch \m/Sorry for my ineptitude but how do I figure out if I am in the first batch?
Same question. :)
I am excite.
I believe first batch is the first 40 Vipers and 30 Eagles, so you can count :D
Post by: xybre on Wed, 15 October 2014, 13:41:29
hell yeah first batch \m/Sorry for my ineptitude but how do I figure out if I am in the first batch?
Same question. :)
I am excite.
I believe first batch is the first 40 Vipers and 30 Eagles, so you can count :D
Actually starting from analogblu's order is the 2nd batch
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 15 October 2014, 14:14:30
hell yeah first batch \m/Sorry for my ineptitude but how do I figure out if I am in the first batch?
Same question. :)
I am excite.
I believe first batch is the first 40 Vipers and 30 Eagles, so you can count :DActually starting from analogblu's order is the 2nd batch
Word up, thanks!
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 16 October 2014, 03:13:48
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 16 October 2014, 03:17:37
wow... just saw the tracking #s are up... thanks elton.Are they?
Where?
EDIT: Nevermind, checked the spreadsheet.
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 16 October 2014, 03:18:52
wow... just saw the tracking #s are up... thanks elton.Are they?
Where?
Here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDdEWHFub0liRWZxemZIR0ZuNmFBLVE&single=true&gid=1&output=html
Post by: Sent on Thu, 16 October 2014, 03:21:41
Post by: bounstar on Thu, 16 October 2014, 05:32:04
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 16 October 2014, 05:46:49
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 16 October 2014, 07:58:05
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 16 October 2014, 08:37:39
No tracking for me, despite being in the first round. :( Is it because I've got so many coming my way?i was wondering the same thing though I only really have 2 coming
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 16 October 2014, 09:11:18
Post by: Distilled on Thu, 16 October 2014, 09:33:06
No tracking for me, despite being in the first round. :( Is it because I've got so many coming my way?
Seems like there are quite a few people who were round 1 who have no tracking numbers. All the people with 2 or more boards and a few extras it looks like.
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 09:51:52
Post by: Distilled on Thu, 16 October 2014, 10:01:10
The rest of the 1st batch was shipped today. I'll have the tracking for those tomorrow
That is good news elton. Thanks for the update!
Post by: demik on Thu, 16 October 2014, 10:41:27
I knew my tracking number wouldn't be there but I still looked. :( And then was appropriately disappointed.
read your reply.
still checked
Post by: pmh1410 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 10:47:27
Post by: xybre on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:25:02
The rest of the 1st batch was shipped today. I'll have the tracking for those tomorrow
Woot! Looking forward to it!
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 16 October 2014, 11:33:21
Post by: bounstar on Thu, 16 October 2014, 19:10:14
Post by: billnye on Thu, 16 October 2014, 19:10:37
Package reached my door just now. Thanks for running the GB Elton.
Pics please!
Post by: bounstar on Thu, 16 October 2014, 19:23:35
(http://i.imgur.com/iQlJ24J.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7De3lwG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/lRXZiJK.jpg)
Post by: epzy on Thu, 16 October 2014, 19:24:32
Didn't want to open too much, I'm taking it over to a friend's house now and he's helping me put it together (I don't have a soldering iron or anything). I'll be back with a build log later today hopefully. Happy to post a couple teaser pictures though.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iQlJ24J.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7De3lwG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lRXZiJK.jpg)
Mmmm, I'm jelly. :D
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 16 October 2014, 19:26:27
Didn't want to open too much, I'm taking it over to a friend's house now and he's helping me put it together (I don't have a soldering iron or anything). I'll be back with a build log later today hopefully. Happy to post a couple teaser pictures though.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iQlJ24J.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7De3lwG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lRXZiJK.jpg)
Uhhh, hopefully I can post pics tomorrow!
Post by: Sent on Thu, 16 October 2014, 19:42:29
(http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1397/88/1397882592829.gif)
Looking forward to that build log, though, bounstar. More pics!
Post by: demik on Thu, 16 October 2014, 19:43:40
Everyone's getting their Ducks, Vipers and JD40's. Meanwhile I'm sitting here doing this.Show Image(http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1397/88/1397882592829.gif)
Looking forward to that build log, though, bounstar. More pics!
lets get drunk so we can forget about it ;_;
Post by: Sent on Thu, 16 October 2014, 19:47:13
lets get drunk so we can forget about it ;_;
Come on down to the OC. I'm too lazy to drive up to you.
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 16 October 2014, 19:50:44
(http://i.imgur.com/gQWTAFR.jpg)
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 16 October 2014, 19:54:46
Didn't know where else to ask and since it's a Viper I might as well just ask here. Does somebody know what keycaps those are?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gQWTAFR.jpg)
Those look great, I sadly don't know what set those are.
Post by: ceflame on Thu, 16 October 2014, 19:57:17
Didn't know where else to ask and since it's a Viper I might as well just ask here. Does somebody know what keycaps those are?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gQWTAFR.jpg)
These might interest you: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64188.0
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 16 October 2014, 20:01:08
Didn't know where else to ask and since it's a Viper I might as well just ask here. Does somebody know what keycaps those are?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gQWTAFR.jpg)
These might interest you: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64188.0
Oh boy, if I buy any more keysets I would need to buy more keyboards to put them on... hm...
Thanks for the link.
Post by: Sent on Thu, 16 October 2014, 20:01:39
Didn't know where else to ask and since it's a Viper I might as well just ask here. Does somebody know what keycaps those are?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gQWTAFR.jpg)
These might interest you: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64188.0
Yar. Those look like Peacock.
Post by: Elocutive on Thu, 16 October 2014, 20:50:01
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 16 October 2014, 21:00:15
Post by: Elocutive on Thu, 16 October 2014, 21:00:54
Post by: pmh1410 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 23:16:39
Didn't know where else to ask and since it's a Viper I might as well just ask here. Does somebody know what keycaps those are?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gQWTAFR.jpg)
These might interest you: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64188.0
Yar. Those look like Peacock.
This is Peacock keyset :)
Post by: bounstar on Fri, 17 October 2014, 01:42:40
(http://i.imgur.com/U8qxl3x.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/EuzNk2y.jpg)
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 17 October 2014, 01:47:28
Cannot wait!
Post by: Sent on Fri, 17 October 2014, 01:58:56
Ended up ****ing up pretty badly. I didn't realize that there was room on the PCB to do either 3 or 4 buttons on the bottom row and used the wrong holes(?) for the standard 4x 1.25. We didn't have anything to desolder it so I just threw on the arrow key so that there's enough clearance for the other 2 keys. I'll redo it when I remove the red side LED's. The casing is really nice in person. Definitely impressed with the build quality with the kit. Thanks again Elton.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/U8qxl3x.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EuzNk2y.jpg)
Looks pretty clean. Any shots from the side? How heavy is the whole thing? Pretty good weight or is relatively light?
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 17 October 2014, 02:01:20
Damn thing weighs almost as much as my Poker II with Vortex's alu case.
Post by: Sent on Fri, 17 October 2014, 02:04:53
If my Light Pad is anything to go by, these are gonna be pretty heavy.
Damn thing weighs almost as much as my Poker II with Vortex's alu case.
That's encouraging to hear.
Post by: bounstar on Fri, 17 October 2014, 02:07:16
Ended up ****ing up pretty badly. I didn't realize that there was room on the PCB to do either 3 or 4 buttons on the bottom row and used the wrong holes(?) for the standard 4x 1.25. We didn't have anything to desolder it so I just threw on the arrow key so that there's enough clearance for the other 2 keys. I'll redo it when I remove the red side LED's. The casing is really nice in person. Definitely impressed with the build quality with the kit. Thanks again Elton.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/U8qxl3x.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EuzNk2y.jpg)
Looks pretty clean. Any shots from the side? How heavy is the whole thing? Pretty good weight or is relatively light?
The packaging weighted 1.9KG. It's pretty heavy. The rubber feet they give you might be adding to the perceived weight. I can't see this thing moving at all on my desk.
(http://i.imgur.com/WR0nWd9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/aJycKwb.jpg)
Post by: Sent on Fri, 17 October 2014, 02:10:03
The packaging weighted 1.9KG. It's pretty heavy. The rubber feet they give you might be adding to the perceived weight. I can't see this thing moving at all on my desk.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WR0nWd9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJycKwb.jpg)
Appreciate the side shots. I mostly wanted to check how steep the angle is. :thumb: Man, this just makes me even more sad I still gotta wait a bit for mine. :'(
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 17 October 2014, 02:30:05
Post by: cooldiscretion on Fri, 17 October 2014, 09:45:43
Didn't know where else to ask and since it's a Viper I might as well just ask here. Does somebody know what keycaps those are?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gQWTAFR.jpg)
These might interest you: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64188.0
I think that keyset looks great, but it's a shame there is no way to get that small right shift with BSP sets.
Yar. Those look like Peacock.
This is Peacock keyset :)
Post by: billnye on Fri, 17 October 2014, 09:55:55
Didn't know where else to ask and since it's a Viper I might as well just ask here. Does somebody know what keycaps those are?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gQWTAFR.jpg)
That set is from an original Cherry G81 3004SAT
http://www.otd.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=album&wr_id=190298
Post by: bazh on Fri, 17 October 2014, 10:06:49
Didn't know where else to ask and since it's a Viper I might as well just ask here. Does somebody know what keycaps those are?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gQWTAFR.jpg)
These might interest you: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64188.0
Yar. Those look like Peacock.
This is Peacock keyset :)
I think that keyset looks great, but it's a shame there is no way to get that small right shift with BSP sets.
The short right shift in the photos is not from the original set either, I believe
Post by: jameslr on Fri, 17 October 2014, 10:43:45
Post by: billnye on Fri, 17 October 2014, 10:46:20
Just got my Eagle in this morning. Now I just gotta wait for my stabs to come in from Ivan's group buy. In the meantime I think I'm going to order some stickers and lube to mod my switches. That will take some time, but I want this to be perfect.
How is your's already there? :(
(http://i.imgur.com/ABL5WBR.png)
Post by: jameslr on Fri, 17 October 2014, 10:47:55
Post by: billnye on Fri, 17 October 2014, 10:49:40
International tracking is mostly worthless it seems, but it was delivered this morning. I checked it out but didn't unwrap anything as I'm not ready to build. The case is sooo HEAVY. Me likey.
Hopefully mine will turn up soon as well.
Post some pics if you can! :D
Post by: ceflame on Fri, 17 October 2014, 12:39:12
Post by: cphead on Fri, 17 October 2014, 12:45:45
LA customs are taking forever to process... depression
Same here :-[ stupid LA customs
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 17 October 2014, 12:51:52
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 17 October 2014, 14:09:31
I wish I could say the same but I need to wait a bit longer for mine :PSame.
Even when mine gets to its destination, it'll still be another week before I get it...
Post by: demik on Fri, 17 October 2014, 14:11:18
first korean gb im guessing?
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 17 October 2014, 14:16:50
man you dudes whine a lot.
Says the man drowning his impatience with booze.
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 17 October 2014, 14:29:40
man you dudes whine a lot.Actually these will be my first Korean keyboards. It is quite sad but I have never used any other mech keyboard in the past aside for a Model M up until 2-3 months ago.
first korean gb im guessing?
Post by: ceflame on Fri, 17 October 2014, 14:34:39
man you dudes whine a lot.Actually these will be my first Korean keyboards. It is quite sad but I have never used any other mech keyboard in the past aside for a Model M up until 2-3 months ago.
first korean gb im guessing?
Holy crap, these will be your first cherry boards? What switches are you going for?
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 17 October 2014, 18:34:17
Post by: demik on Fri, 17 October 2014, 18:37:15
man you dudes whine a lot.
Says the man drowning his impatience with booze.
YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT!
Post by: ceflame on Fri, 17 October 2014, 18:45:15
Not my first MX but my first korean keyboard. I currently own a brown and a clear poker ii though for these, I will be going with green switches as well as ergo clears. I'm also doing varying switches depending on what buttons they are (Eg. Grey linear space bar)
Ohh I see now. Misinterpreted what you said about only using a Model M before. That's still a really fast transition from retail boards up to here though.
Post by: Sent on Fri, 17 October 2014, 19:12:20
man you dudes whine a lot.
Says the man drowning his impatience with booze.
YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT!
It's ok. I got my JD40 today. I am satisfied...for now...
Post by: epzy on Fri, 17 October 2014, 19:14:58
man you dudes whine a lot.
+1 :rolleyes:
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 17 October 2014, 19:15:28
Post by: Matter on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:23:37
Post by: Karura on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:25:03
Most curious about how people plan to work with the layout, choice of keycaps and all that... need more pics!
Post by: demik on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:25:29
Is the Viper set going to be the same layout as the HHKB?
it can be, yes. it can also have an ansi backspace, full right shift.
Post by: ebacho on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:41:13
Post by: kle5635 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 01:39:39
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 18 October 2014, 01:49:05
Post by: billnye on Sat, 18 October 2014, 06:47:05
(http://i.imgur.com/yJgb5cl.png)
Post by: bazh on Sat, 18 October 2014, 07:03:47
Post by: pmh1410 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 07:08:43
Post by: billnye on Sat, 18 October 2014, 07:12:46
^: where do you see your tracking information?
US Postal Service website, I doubt that yours would be on there since you aren't in the US.
Post by: bazh on Sat, 18 October 2014, 07:14:50
^: where do you see your tracking information?
US Postal Service website, I doubt that yours would be on there since you aren't in the US.
yeah I found Finland posti site, and yeah so excited to :p
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10712847_899889890023820_1642828921487488375_n.jpg?oh=386a0b967c532d11c2737cd70fb680b3&oe=54F34E76&__gda__=1421956558_77226fc17d11a7798d7d14da99d98507)
damn the shipping is really fast :D
Post by: Vintage on Sat, 18 October 2014, 08:45:52
Too bad I won't be building for a bit :p
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:27:12
^: where do you see your tracking information?
US Postal Service website, I doubt that yours would be on there since you aren't in the US.
yeah I found Finland posti site, and yeah so excited to :pShow Image(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10712847_899889890023820_1642828921487488375_n.jpg?oh=386a0b967c532d11c2737cd70fb680b3&oe=54F34E76&__gda__=1421956558_77226fc17d11a7798d7d14da99d98507)
damn the shipping is really fast :D
EMS is worth the price
Post by: Gh05tx on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:30:04
Post by: bazh on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:56:37
^: where do you see your tracking information?
US Postal Service website, I doubt that yours would be on there since you aren't in the US.
yeah I found Finland posti site, and yeah so excited to :pShow Image(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10712847_899889890023820_1642828921487488375_n.jpg?oh=386a0b967c532d11c2737cd70fb680b3&oe=54F34E76&__gda__=1421956558_77226fc17d11a7798d7d14da99d98507)
damn the shipping is really fast :D
EMS is worth the price
yeah both the Viper (Kr) and hasu controller (Jp) arrived to my local post office in just 3 days, I'm really impressed
Post by: pmh1410 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 13:08:52
https://trace.epost.go.kr//xtts/tt/epost/ems/ems_eng.jsp
Post by: ceflame on Sat, 18 October 2014, 13:26:08
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 18 October 2014, 13:32:00
Post by: cphead on Sat, 18 October 2014, 13:38:04
Coming today! Indeed EMS is crazy fast.
EMS is fast, but customs is not :-\
Post by: ceflame on Sat, 18 October 2014, 13:39:47
Coming today! Indeed EMS is crazy fast.
EMS is fast, but customs is not :-\
Agreed.. though maybe it's just LA customs since other places processed much faster :(
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 18 October 2014, 13:51:19
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 18 October 2014, 13:57:06
Last time I had to pick something up I had to open the package and unbox the TEX case I ordered and show them what's inside, sometimes we have to do that here. They gathered 5 people to ask me what the hell I just ordered and gave me confused looks :-\
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 18 October 2014, 14:06:28
German customs also take their time on this one. It's been stuck there for 3 days now.
Last time I had to pick something up I had to open the package and unbox the TEX case I ordered and show them what's inside, sometimes we have to do that here. They gathered 5 people to ask me what the hell I just ordered and gave me confused looks :-\
It's a chunk of aluminum so I can smack people with it if they touch my keyboard! :p
EMS is fastish...Price is pretty bad depending on the weight / time it takes vs a properly discounted courier account.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sat, 18 October 2014, 15:17:33
To tjcaustin, who is putting it together, but still
Post by: minho on Sat, 18 October 2014, 16:46:50
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 18 October 2014, 16:50:27
Post by: Vintage on Sat, 18 October 2014, 18:23:29
60% is insanely small btw... idk why full-size boards were ever a thing :p
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 October 2014, 18:26:36
Delivered, looks amazing.
60% is insanely small btw... idk why full-size boards were ever a thing :p
60% is 100% all the time, every time.
Post by: Friskywhisker on Sat, 18 October 2014, 18:38:48
(http://i.imgur.com/GUrlEZZ.jpg)
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 18 October 2014, 18:49:32
Post by: keyit on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:58:48
(http://i.imgur.com/5fQsd5R.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/F658ZTL.jpg?1)
hefty
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 18 October 2014, 22:55:47
Post by: feizor on Sat, 18 October 2014, 23:49:52
Post by: bazh on Sun, 19 October 2014, 01:00:34
what switches do you plan on using with that keyboard?
67g red but ****, I'm still waiting for spring and lube from sprit
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sun, 19 October 2014, 01:35:50
Anyone know how to program these things?
You use the firmware here:
http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program
You should check out the LightSaver GB thread.
We got most of the confusion knocked out there.
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 19 October 2014, 03:52:08
Edit: Looks like you can program the kingsaver on the 02D keymapper too? I dunno why I have one just for the kingsaver then :confused:
Post by: feizor on Sun, 19 October 2014, 04:28:00
Anyone know how to program these things?
You use the firmware here:
http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program
You should check out the LightSaver GB thread.
We got most of the confusion knocked out there.
Thanks. I had trouble saving the layout to a new hex file. It works if you save over an existing hex file. And you need to use FLIP instead of the built-in flasher of the O2D software.
Post by: ceflame on Sun, 19 October 2014, 05:12:10
Post by: feizor on Sun, 19 October 2014, 05:35:53
How are you guys screwing those tiny screws in? Can't find anything small enough to screw them in
You need a 1.5mm hex key.
Post by: ceflame on Sun, 19 October 2014, 05:55:53
How are you guys screwing those tiny screws in? Can't find anything small enough to screw them in
You need a 1.5mm hex key.
Thanks for the answer, but I guess the dream is over for me.
Board is completely dead now, with a chain of events starting from putting in 3 LEDs the wrong way. Should have left it at that, with completely functional board missing 3 LEDs.
Post by: feizor on Sun, 19 October 2014, 07:35:10
How are you guys screwing those tiny screws in? Can't find anything small enough to screw them in
You need a 1.5mm hex key.
Thanks for the answer, but I guess the dream is over for me.
Board is completely dead now, with a chain of events starting from putting in 3 LEDs the wrong way. Should have left it at that, with completely functional board missing 3 LEDs.
Are you sure what you've done is not repairable? You should post all the steps here so the good folks here can provide some advice. At the least it will serve as a warning to others for what not to do.
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 10:08:54
can't you just resolder it the right way? Its always better to try if you are unsure instead of assuming your board is deadHow are you guys screwing those tiny screws in? Can't find anything small enough to screw them in
You need a 1.5mm hex key.
Thanks for the answer, but I guess the dream is over for me.
Board is completely dead now, with a chain of events starting from putting in 3 LEDs the wrong way. Should have left it at that, with completely functional board missing 3 LEDs.
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 19 October 2014, 12:25:42
How are you guys screwing those tiny screws in? Can't find anything small enough to screw them in
You need a 1.5mm hex key.
Thanks for the answer, but I guess the dream is over for me.
Board is completely dead now, with a chain of events starting from putting in 3 LEDs the wrong way. Should have left it at that, with completely functional board missing 3 LEDs.
Are you sure what you've done is not repairable? You should post all the steps here so the good folks here can provide some advice. At the least it will serve as a warning to others for what not to do.
Yes this please.
Post by: ceflame on Sun, 19 October 2014, 14:32:51
Ended up trying and failing to desolder the LED's with the worst possible desoldering pump, and ended up burning off the pads/traces due to frustration.
It actually did still work after those steps, but maybe it shorted after I cleaned it with alcohol or something? Not exactly sure, and currently I have no idea what to do with this. When it's plugged in, it says device is not recognized.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZZ0STyd.jpg)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 19 October 2014, 15:07:37
Well, just as a warning, if you do winkeyless layout, the 3 keys on the bottom left (ctrl, win, alt) change orientation for LED, didn't notice that as I was just putting in all the LEDs. Just a result of me being careless and not double checking.Ouch, hope you get it figured out!
Ended up trying and failing to desolder the LED's with the worst possible desoldering pump, and ended up burning off the pads/traces due to frustration.
It actually did still work after those steps, but maybe it shorted after I cleaned it with alcohol or something? Not exactly sure, and currently I have no idea what to do with this. When it's plugged in, it says device is not recognized.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZZ0STyd.jpg)
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 19 October 2014, 15:22:59
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i3yegxc5kx4ox8y/LightSaverV2%20Layout%20Editing%20and%20Updating%20Tutorial.pdf?dl=0
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:42:54
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 17:37:56
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 17:42:14
Post by: xybre on Sun, 19 October 2014, 18:29:25
The quick getting started PDF in the Lightsaver GB thread is nice, but it barely scratches the surface. I've been slowly converting the original Korean documentation into English. In this process I had to do all sorts of weird **** to my computer, including changing my default locale, and using multiple editors (Vim and Sublime so far) in order to change encodings from the frankly awful EUC-KR (which breaks most programs) into the actually useful UTF versions and then translating using Google, which gets me close, but the documentation isn't easily readable since it mangles so much.
I'm working on improving this situation, but I'm curious if someone else has does this already and can save me the trouble?
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 19 October 2014, 19:49:14
I heard there was a bug with the current one on duck's website, so I just downloaded the most recent looking one I could find from KBDlab.kr.
Firstly, it may help to read this:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0
If that doesn't help, please feel free to ask questions. it can be a little hard to figure out at first, but once you've got it, it's pretty good.
I am using v1.3.240 I think, but I also have 1.3.244 and 1.4.288
Note that the above is for the lightsaver, but I think they work with viper/eagle as well. If not 02d is sure to add support for them soon.
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 19 October 2014, 19:55:46
That's unfortunate. I heard that the PCBs weren't very high quality and pads can lift easily when you desolder something.Where did you read that? I think the PCBs are of excellent quality and have never had any issue desoldering. They are better than KMAC for sure.
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 19:58:20
That's unfortunate. I heard that the PCBs weren't very high quality and pads can lift easily when you desolder something.Where did you read that? I think the PCBs are of excellent quality and have never had any issue desoldering. They are better than KMAC for sure.
They're some of the most durable I've messed with. I soldered/desoldered my duck 7 times without issue.
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sun, 19 October 2014, 20:01:35
They're some of the most durable I've messed with. I soldered/desoldered my duck 7 times without issue.
Wow, 7 times? Were you stress testing the PCB or just indecisive about switch/LED combo?
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 20:03:55
They're some of the most durable I've messed with. I soldered/desoldered my duck 7 times without issue.
Wow, 7 times? Were you stress testing the PCB or just indecisive about switch/LED combo?
The latter. First, I wanted different LED. Those LED interfered with my caps. Then, different MX switches. Then, ALPS switches.
Post by: paobit on Sun, 19 October 2014, 20:25:16
Post by: billnye on Sun, 19 October 2014, 21:35:35
Prepare for a lot of pics :D
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 21:37:44
so if there's no tracking number next to your name on the sheet, you're on the 2nd batch right?No. You will be on the second batch if your name is listed after analogblu and on the first batch if your name was prior.
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 October 2014, 21:39:06
so if there's no tracking number next to your name on the sheet, you're on the 2nd batch right?
did you even bother to go through the thread? it has been said multiple times already.
the second batch starts with analogblu
if there is no tracking next to your name BEFORE analogblu then it's because elton hasnt gotten it yet. holy **** it's not hard to figure out.
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:11:01
I'm crying with tears of sarcasm now T_T
Post by: paobit on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:12:48
so if there's no tracking number next to your name on the sheet, you're on the 2nd batch right?
did you even bother to go through the thread? it has been said multiple times already.
the second batch starts with analogblu
if there is no tracking next to your name BEFORE analogblu then it's because elton hasnt gotten it yet. holy **** it's not hard to figure out.
lol woops. Didn't bother reading the past posts. I just kept seeing "mine is arriving xxx" and got sad lol
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:18:46
and ladies and gentlemen, the biggest problem on internet forums.so if there's no tracking number next to your name on the sheet, you're on the 2nd batch right?
did you even bother to go through the thread? it has been said multiple times already.
the second batch starts with analogblu
if there is no tracking next to your name BEFORE analogblu then it's because elton hasnt gotten it yet. holy **** it's not hard to figure out.
Didn't bother reading the past posts.
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:23:39
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:24:55
Post by: phatdood9 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:39:13
that's not an excuse
i read that as if your avatar's hairy dude with a tank top said it :))
9998 posts damn :eek:
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:45:52
that's not an excuse
i read that as if your avatar's hairy dude with a tank top said it :))
9998 posts damn :eek:
Carl. His name is Carl. He has a *****en ride and an outdoor pool
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:47:46
that's not an excuse
i read that as if your avatar's hairy dude with a tank top said it :))
9998 posts damn :eek:
Carl. His name is Carl. He has a *****en ride and an outdoor pool
(http://www.watchcartoononline.com/videoimg/Aqua-Teen-Hunger-Force-Episode-14-Dumber-Days.jpg)
what do you want?
Post by: epzy on Sun, 19 October 2014, 22:50:07
Post by: ceflame on Mon, 20 October 2014, 03:09:35
I'm under the impression that the Nerd 60 PCB should be compatible with the Eagle case/plate, anyone know if this is for sure? I checked on GON's website and they do look like the have the same holes for the PCB/case.
Post by: feizor on Mon, 20 October 2014, 03:53:33
Well, just as a warning, if you do winkeyless layout, the 3 keys on the bottom left (ctrl, win, alt) change orientation for LED, didn't notice that as I was just putting in all the LEDs. Just a result of me being careless and not double checking.
Ended up trying and failing to desolder the LED's with the worst possible desoldering pump, and ended up burning off the pads/traces due to frustration.
It actually did still work after those steps, but maybe it shorted after I cleaned it with alcohol or something? Not exactly sure, and currently I have no idea what to do with this. When it's plugged in, it says device is not recognized.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZZ0STyd.jpg)
Hey dude, this could be a long shot but you might wanna try clipping all the LED legs off with a flush cutter. I noticed you left the legs pretty long and they could be shorting out by touching the case.
I don't see how having the leds in the wrong way or lifting a pad or two could stop the board from working, since the LED's are optional in the first place.
Might wanna try this before wasting the awesome duck PCB.
Post by: xybre on Mon, 20 October 2014, 08:40:53
I have my lightsaver currently programmed with the 02d keymapper. Which version are you using?
I heard there was a bug with the current one on duck's website, so I just downloaded the most recent looking one I could find from KBDlab.kr.
Firstly, it may help to read this:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53942.0
If that doesn't help, please feel free to ask questions. it can be a little hard to figure out at first, but once you've got it, it's pretty good.
I am using v1.3.240 I think, but I also have 1.3.244 and 1.4.288
Note that the above is for the lightsaver, but I think they work with viper/eagle as well. If not 02d is sure to add support for them soon.
The latest one from the official page (not Duck's page) supports the Eagle/Viper explicitly. That's not the problem, I was just trying to figure out what it can and can't do. The interface is terrible and the documentation is all in Korean (And seems to be organized poorly even so). I translated enough to get a general idea. But it doesn't look like the 02D firmware can do even half of what I want. So I'm setting up the TMK firmware on one of my dev VMs and I'm going to try building a suitable layout with that instead.
Unless you know how to get 02D to supply arbitrary HID scan codes that is (so I can support things like proper media keys).
Post by: Gh05tx on Mon, 20 October 2014, 09:25:55
Well, just as a warning, if you do winkeyless layout, the 3 keys on the bottom left (ctrl, win, alt) change orientation for LED, didn't notice that as I was just putting in all the LEDs. Just a result of me being careless and not double checking.If it says device not recognized dont you just have to install the firmware?
Ended up trying and failing to desolder the LED's with the worst possible desoldering pump, and ended up burning off the pads/traces due to frustration.
It actually did still work after those steps, but maybe it shorted after I cleaned it with alcohol or something? Not exactly sure, and currently I have no idea what to do with this. When it's plugged in, it says device is not recognized.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZZ0STyd.jpg)
Post by: ceflame on Mon, 20 October 2014, 09:56:07
Well, just as a warning, if you do winkeyless layout, the 3 keys on the bottom left (ctrl, win, alt) change orientation for LED, didn't notice that as I was just putting in all the LEDs. Just a result of me being careless and not double checking.If it says device not recognized dont you just have to install the firmware?
Ended up trying and failing to desolder the LED's with the worst possible desoldering pump, and ended up burning off the pads/traces due to frustration.
It actually did still work after those steps, but maybe it shorted after I cleaned it with alcohol or something? Not exactly sure, and currently I have no idea what to do with this. When it's plugged in, it says device is not recognized.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZZ0STyd.jpg)
I guess I could try that as my last shot. I just don't think that's the issue since it was working before.
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 20 October 2014, 12:21:02
That's unfortunate. I heard that the PCBs weren't very high quality and pads can lift easily when you desolder something.Where did you read that? I think the PCBs are of excellent quality and have never had any issue desoldering. They are better than KMAC for sure.
I can't remember where I read it and I couldn't find it since the search engine gives me nothing on Duck PCB but it is great to hear the opposite for sure!
Post by: keyit on Mon, 20 October 2014, 14:25:11
(http://i.imgur.com/hhX8o6O.jpg?1)
temporary till GMK DOLCH comes
also just re-iterating what ceflame said, the left ctrl, alt, win LED orientations are reversed compared to the rest of the board. i noticed they weren't turning on and couldn't figure it out until i reversed them. i used sip sockets so that didn't involve any desoldering. but i hope you do resolve your issue ceflame.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 20 October 2014, 14:30:13
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 20 October 2014, 16:09:39
Post by: bazh on Mon, 20 October 2014, 16:36:15
Post by: billnye on Mon, 20 October 2014, 17:13:13
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5602/15587854882_028d9757b9_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pKrQbE)Viper (https://flic.kr/p/pKrQbE) by billnye29 (https://www.flickr.com/people/125659639@N06/), on Flickr
Packaging on this was 10/10, Duck did a great job making sure it stayed safe. I will be building it as soon as my stabs from Ivan's gb come in!
Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 20 October 2014, 21:04:24
Post by: keyit on Mon, 20 October 2014, 21:09:44
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 20 October 2014, 21:20:21
I too plan on changing it out. Does anyone know what size they are? 3528? 5050? Something different? Thanks
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The Side LEDs are 3.5mm x 2.8mm in size (3528 or 1411 package size). If you are changing the side LEDs, please note the orientation of the original LEDs before removing them: it's not symmetric!
All LED resistors appear to be 470 Ohm variety.
Post by: pmh1410 on Mon, 20 October 2014, 23:36:53
Post by: ceflame on Tue, 21 October 2014, 02:18:00
Well, RIP Eagle PCB. Good luck to everyone with their builds. Don't be an idiot like me ;D
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 21 October 2014, 02:42:18
You know, pay to ship it to them, or whatever, and see what happens.
Can't hurt to try.
Post by: ceflame on Tue, 21 October 2014, 02:59:12
Maybe you can ask one of the nice folks around here to see what they can do to fix it.
You know, pay to ship it to them, or whatever, and see what happens.
Can't hurt to try.
Any suggestions for who to ask?
I know a lot of the service people usually have their hands full with other things.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 21 October 2014, 03:09:26
I haven't been here all that loong, but maybe make a thread asking for help, and see what happens.
Post by: feizor on Tue, 21 October 2014, 04:48:31
Maybe you can ask one of the nice folks around here to see what they can do to fix it.
You know, pay to ship it to them, or whatever, and see what happens.
Can't hurt to try.
Any suggestions for who to ask?
I know a lot of the service people usually have their hands full with other things.
Did you try clipping the LED legs?
Post by: pmh1410 on Tue, 21 October 2014, 05:28:45
Post by: feizor on Tue, 21 October 2014, 07:39:51
Why we do not try with Remouvable Led ?
He has already soldered all the LED's and upon trying to desolder three, has lifted the pads and now the board is no longer functioning. But I think the LED legs have been left too long and is shorting out with the case.
Post by: mousesony on Tue, 21 October 2014, 08:42:56
Post by: mousesony on Tue, 21 October 2014, 09:52:27
It doesn't seem like there was a way to toggle them off without flashing it.
Post by: ceflame on Tue, 21 October 2014, 11:17:54
Maybe you can ask one of the nice folks around here to see what they can do to fix it.
You know, pay to ship it to them, or whatever, and see what happens.
Can't hurt to try.
Any suggestions for who to ask?
I know a lot of the service people usually have their hands full with other things.
Did you try clipping the LED legs?
I forgot to mention that it doesn't work even when not in the case, so I don't think it's a matter of shorting out when touching the case, sadly
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 21 October 2014, 11:38:27
Maybe you can ask one of the nice folks around here to see what they can do to fix it.
You know, pay to ship it to them, or whatever, and see what happens.
Can't hurt to try.
Any suggestions for who to ask?
I know a lot of the service people usually have their hands full with other things.
If you're ever up in the SF bay area there's a handful of us who can take a look at it. I don't have dedicated time right now to say you can ship it and I'll take a look. But if you were coming north for some other reason and I don't have anything planned for that time, I'll happily make some time to take a look.
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 21 October 2014, 13:03:19
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 21 October 2014, 14:09:57
Vipers arrived, mailman woke me up while I was still in bed -- didn't have tracking so I didn't know :p Was part of the second wave of R1.
It had tracking and was probably sent as express most likely just
Ike mine. It arrived yesterday and was taken back to the PO even if I wasn't given the tracking info by elton
I was not home yesterday so I had to pick it up today but the pickup slipleft on my mailbox yesterday had a tracking info.
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 21 October 2014, 14:15:50
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 21 October 2014, 14:55:15
Yeah, I know it was sent via EMS, just second wave of shipments didn't get their tracking info forwarded. So for those in the second wave of R1, expect to receive a box soon!
As soon as yesterday! :eek:
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 21 October 2014, 15:04:01
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 21 October 2014, 16:02:12
Post by: cooldiscretion on Tue, 21 October 2014, 17:09:03
So I'm gonna need people to post more pictures, that I might soothe this impatience itch as I wait for mine.
I received mine. Should be building it as soon as Ivan's Dolch keyset and Stabilizers arrive.
I have some vintage Cherry stabilizers laying around, but there is no sense in not being patient now that the Dolch set will be shipping so soon.
Post by: Sent on Tue, 21 October 2014, 17:20:30
Glad to see that R1 is pretty much taken care of. Hopefully, this means that R2 is almost there.
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 21 October 2014, 18:04:47
I demand more build logs/pics of Vipers.
Glad to see that R1 is pretty much taken care of. Hopefully, this means that R2 is almost there.
My Viper arrived in germany on wednesday last week. Today it arrived at my towns post office. Hopefully I get notified that I can pick it up tomorrow. Then I will post some pictures and do a build log when I have all my parts ready ;)
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 21 October 2014, 19:45:57
Post by: epzy on Tue, 21 October 2014, 19:47:21
Do people here want me to post some of the photos I've taken of the ALU cases? I haven't opened the rest yet.
sure, why not :p
Post by: Sent on Tue, 21 October 2014, 19:48:54
Do people here want me to post some of the photos I've taken of the ALU cases? I haven't opened the rest yet.
I'll never say no to photos.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 21 October 2014, 19:51:27
Do people here want me to post some of the photos I've taken of the ALU cases? I haven't opened the rest yet.Yes.
Yeeeesss.
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 21 October 2014, 20:51:47
I'm not taking any more payments for the acrylic inserts as I've already had them ordered and I will get them next week or so.
Here's the link to the inserts spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mlGWvNuk5QabOohBKYSD2rcQFcjALC0BZWs1RB1lV1E/pubhtml
Post by: keyit on Tue, 21 October 2014, 21:24:35
I've updated all the 1st batch tracking on the spreadsheet except for Hoffman's order as they were waiting for the Light Pad's PCB. Duck will have it by tomorrow and will be shipped right after. Sorry to Hoffman and those in his order.
I'm not taking any more payments for the acrylic inserts as I've already had them ordered and I will get them next week or so.
Here's the link to the inserts spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mlGWvNuk5QabOohBKYSD2rcQFcjALC0BZWs1RB1lV1E/pubhtml
awesome. thanks for running this gb along with the inserts elton!
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 21 October 2014, 21:40:31
I received both my Viper and Eagle orders and I have just opened the package. They were all packed very well and safely. I have not seen any imperfections on the Anodized aluminum cases though I still haven't opened the rest of the shipment yet. As soon as I open the rest of my package, I shall post pictures of everything I've received as well as some close ups
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 21 October 2014, 22:57:35
I've updated all the 1st batch tracking on the spreadsheet except for Hoffman's order as they were waiting for the Light Pad's PCB. Duck will have it by tomorrow and will be shipped right after. Sorry to Hoffman and those in his order.Wow, totally forgot about the inserts.
I'm not taking any more payments for the acrylic inserts as I've already had them ordered and I will get them next week or so.
Here's the link to the inserts spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mlGWvNuk5QabOohBKYSD2rcQFcjALC0BZWs1RB1lV1E/pubhtml
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 21 October 2014, 23:25:56
(http://i.imgur.com/0hg8NQO.jpg)
Small scratches inside both cases :(, but it won't be visible once built.
(http://puu.sh/clDrT/7a360cd7fe.png)
(http://puu.sh/clDnt/fe767203b2.png)
Everything was packed really well, as others have mentioned. Box was also the heavy duty type. Glad I didn't get hit with customs with the $85 declaration (I've been charged even at $70 before)
PCB looks like the Mini USB connectors were hand soldered? (Flux residue left over)
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 21 October 2014, 23:39:49
Still waiting to see some blue-grey action.
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 21 October 2014, 23:52:38
Potato for now -- Camera is at the office, and it's dark now so excuse the phone quality.:pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0hg8NQO.jpg)
Small scratches inside both cases :(, but it won't be visible once built.Show Image(http://puu.sh/clDrT/7a360cd7fe.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/clDnt/fe767203b2.png)
Everything was packed really well, as others have mentioned. Box was also the heavy duty type. Glad I didn't get hit with customs with the $85 declaration (I've been charged even at $70 before)
PCB looks like the Mini USB connectors were hand soldered? (Flux residue left over)
That's funny, I have a scratch on my case in the exact same area (http://i.imgur.com/lRMpWLt.jpg)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 21 October 2014, 23:54:08
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 21 October 2014, 23:54:37
Post by: Synjin on Wed, 22 October 2014, 00:01:53
Potato for now -- Camera is at the office, and it's dark now so excuse the phone quality.:pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0hg8NQO.jpg)
Small scratches inside both cases :(, but it won't be visible once built.Show Image(http://puu.sh/clDrT/7a360cd7fe.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/clDnt/fe767203b2.png)
Everything was packed really well, as others have mentioned. Box was also the heavy duty type. Glad I didn't get hit with customs with the $85 declaration (I've been charged even at $70 before)
PCB looks like the Mini USB connectors were hand soldered? (Flux residue left over)
I just rechecked my cases and I did notice that there was a slight chip off the aluminum on my Eagle while my viper had the same scratches that people have posted prior (Same exact size and location).
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 22 October 2014, 00:08:42
That's probably the spot on the cases where the anodizing rack met the case.
That's most likely the case. Is it even possible to anodize a case without it sticking to the rack?
Post by: Synjin on Wed, 22 October 2014, 01:20:42
These are the pictures of the cases I have after looking at them more closely.
Viper: The same marks as the one zeal has. I think these are minor since I myself wont see it once assembled.
(http://i.imgur.com/oYBDv3q.jpg)'
Eagle: This chip is really bothering me since the rest of the case looks good aside for this spot. It actually looks bigger if seen in person though I do not have a good quality camera to take images with. The chip has a gold-ish color to it that I do not know where it could have possibly come from as I just unwrapped them from being very well packed.
(http://i.imgur.com/9EjdNro.jpg)
I asked a member of our community who then informed me that duck normally does not send out products with defects as those are the ones he sells with a discount.
Post by: Motan22 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 01:38:01
I've updated all the 1st batch tracking on the spreadsheet except for Hoffman's order as they were waiting for the Light Pad's PCB. Duck will have it by tomorrow and will be shipped right after. Sorry to Hoffman and those in his order.
I'm not taking any more payments for the acrylic inserts as I've already had them ordered and I will get them next week or so.
Here's the link to the inserts spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mlGWvNuk5QabOohBKYSD2rcQFcjALC0BZWs1RB1lV1E/pubhtml
Thanks for the updates elton. Love the use of the public spreadsheets for order progress.
Post by: bazh on Wed, 22 October 2014, 05:43:41
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1902741_901879976491478_4002912086239971920_n.jpg?oh=b9b310911743693735f014650c20d321&oe=54EEFB30&__gda__=1421660657_eb8c2e9d9cc5790277e89a36a97d2d81)
still have to wait for lube and spring from sprit :(
Post by: b7ad on Wed, 22 October 2014, 06:22:24
Cool seeing everyones kits in here though! Customs paid and mine is arriving tomorrow :D
Post by: bazh on Wed, 22 October 2014, 06:41:13
^ I am in the same boat man, and I ordered a few keyboards from him so it could be years before I get my springs and can actually build this board :(
Cool seeing everyones kits in here though! Customs paid and mine is arriving tomorrow :D
how is your customs cost? they charged me 24% import tax for that (something like 49€) :( damn never had to pay that **** back then I was in Vietnam :(
Post by: b7ad on Wed, 22 October 2014, 06:44:42
^ I am in the same boat man, and I ordered a few keyboards from him so it could be years before I get my springs and can actually build this board :(
Cool seeing everyones kits in here though! Customs paid and mine is arriving tomorrow :D
how is your customs cost? they charged me 24% import tax for that (something like 49€) :( damn never had to pay that **** back then I was in Vietnam :(
Mine was £24, which is usually what this kinda thing is when it gets hit with customs, that's a VAT charge and about 80% or so of that fee is Parcelforce taking a cut for "paying the VAT for me", robbing *******'s! Usually things from Asia I never get hit with customs, it's generally the US, but you get unlucky now and then I suppose :D
Post by: bazh on Wed, 22 October 2014, 06:51:13
^ I am in the same boat man, and I ordered a few keyboards from him so it could be years before I get my springs and can actually build this board :(
Cool seeing everyones kits in here though! Customs paid and mine is arriving tomorrow :D
how is your customs cost? they charged me 24% import tax for that (something like 49€) :( damn never had to pay that **** back then I was in Vietnam :(
Mine was £24, which is usually what this kinda thing is when it gets hit with customs, that's a VAT charge and about 80% or so of that fee is Parcelforce taking a cut for "paying the VAT for me", robbing *******'s! Usually things from Asia I never get hit with customs, it's generally the US, but you get unlucky now and then I suppose :D
funny Duck wrote on the shipping box that the packages valued $60 but still they get me to show them the invoice (which was a paypal invoice for $2xx), guess I have to be smarter next times :))
now waiting for lube and springs seeing everyone gets their boards done sucks :(
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 22 October 2014, 10:56:55
It's unfortunate you guys have to pay so much in import tax..:|
Post by: b7ad on Wed, 22 October 2014, 11:46:50
funny Duck wrote on the shipping box that the packages valued $60 but still they get me to show them the invoice (which was a paypal invoice for $2xx), guess I have to be smarter next times :))
now waiting for lube and springs seeing everyone gets their boards done sucks :(
Wow, they make you show them a purchase invoice? That's crazy.
Fingers crossed you get your lube-n-springs soon my friend
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 22 October 2014, 13:29:03
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 22 October 2014, 14:06:30
Post by: Rewind on Thu, 23 October 2014, 16:08:13
Question for those who already recieved their Viper kit, can you install LEDs left and right to the spacebar? I think the Lightsaver had that option.As far as I can tell you can only place a LED in the middle of the spacebar (where the switch is). Please note that I'm a complete noob at electronics so I'll add some pictures so you can check it out yourself. ;)
(http://i.imgur.com/VqfOoLe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jt33anF.jpg)
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 23 October 2014, 17:06:57
EDIT: received my stuff today, thanks Elton ;) Now let's wait for stabs.
Post by: b7ad on Fri, 24 October 2014, 10:06:20
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 24 October 2014, 22:42:47
First of 5
Post by: tribade on Fri, 24 October 2014, 23:47:18
https://www.flickr.com/photos/20887387@N06/sets/72157648944409761/
First of 5
Looks fantastic! Can't wait for mine!
Post by: Motan22 on Sat, 25 October 2014, 07:30:42
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Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 25 October 2014, 08:55:08
(http://i.imgur.com/6uOtotp.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/iX3VMnq.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/r8bYOJm.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/371ENob.jpg)
Post by: feizor on Sat, 25 October 2014, 09:27:22
Post by: b7ad on Sat, 25 October 2014, 09:36:15
Since we all like pictures so much I figured I would take some of my Viper, sorrounded by various things that I am going to use to build it as soon as my stabilizers and springs arrive. The plate has one minor imperfection which is a tiny scratch at the left side of the spacebar, I don't mind it though. Once it is built I will never see it again :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6uOtotp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iX3VMnq.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/r8bYOJm.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/371ENob.jpg)
Gorgeous pictures :-*
Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 25 October 2014, 10:19:21
Post by: phatdood9 on Sat, 25 October 2014, 11:17:12
Does all of your plates has a burnt marks on the other side of the plate?
Mine do, but the other side is perfect
Post by: Motan22 on Sat, 25 October 2014, 11:21:34
Does all of your plates has a burnt marks on the other side of the plate?
Yes mine has brown marks on one side which are from the manufacturing process I would assume. Not really concerned about it since it will not be visible.
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 25 October 2014, 12:14:55
Post by: cphead on Sat, 25 October 2014, 20:37:28
Post by: WinterIsle on Sat, 25 October 2014, 20:40:22
Anyone know what the flip key is for the Viper?capslock
Post by: cphead on Sat, 25 October 2014, 21:16:47
Anyone know what the flip key is for the Viper?capslock
Thanks. How are you flashing the firmware? I tried using Atmel Flip like on a KMAC but I get "atlibdfuusb.dll not found" and "could not load dynamic library" when I try to find the Viper using "USB" option.
Post by: WinterIsle on Sat, 25 October 2014, 21:53:45
Thanks. How are you flashing the firmware? I tried using Atmel Flip like on a KMAC but I get "atlibdfuusb.dll not found" and "could not load dynamic library" when I try to find the Viper using "USB" option.you probably haven't update the driver for the viper i think.
open device manager > find the particular usb device with "!" > browse atmel folder driver to install it.
something similar like flashing kmac firmware as well if u are using flip method.
the other method is using dfu_programmer folder & files provided by 02D if u doesn't have atmel flip installed on your pc.
same holding capslock when connecting the viper, then install driver (skip this part if u already done it before), use the 02D keymapper upload firmware and select the .hex file u mapped.
black window will pop out stating the firmware is uploading to your viper and wait a few sec press any key to proceed, done.
Post by: cphead on Sat, 25 October 2014, 22:13:01
Thanks. How are you flashing the firmware? I tried using Atmel Flip like on a KMAC but I get "atlibdfuusb.dll not found" and "could not load dynamic library" when I try to find the Viper using "USB" option.you probably haven't update the driver for the viper i think.
open device manager > find the particular usb device with "!" > browse atmel folder driver to install it.
something similar like flashing kmac firmware as well if u are using flip method.
the other method is using dfu_programmer folder & files provided by 02D if u doesn't have atmel flip installed on your pc.
same holding capslock when connecting the viper, then install driver (skip this part if u already done it before), use the 02D keymapper upload firmware and select the .hex file u mapped.
black window will pop out stating the firmware is uploading to your viper and wait a few sec press any key to proceed, done.
Thanks very much for your help : D. I got it to update, etc. got it mapped, arrow keys and all :thumb:
Pictures soontm ...
Post by: phatdood9 on Sat, 25 October 2014, 22:32:54
Post by: evolveS on Sun, 26 October 2014, 22:32:24
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 26 October 2014, 22:40:57
Post by: evolveS on Sun, 26 October 2014, 22:55:48
I'm assuming you did not use your plate on that board?Correct, everything is PCB mount on mine.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sun, 26 October 2014, 23:42:17
Post by: Karura on Mon, 27 October 2014, 00:55:36
Thanks Ivan & elton!
Looking great! Got more angle shots of the case?
Post by: slickmamba on Mon, 27 October 2014, 01:22:46
Post by: evolveS on Mon, 27 October 2014, 01:34:18
I really can't do either the set or the case justice with my photo equipment.
Post by: Motan22 on Mon, 27 October 2014, 02:56:55
Thanks Ivan & elton!
:eek:
Fantastic, absolute end game stuff.
Did you mount any LEDs?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 27 October 2014, 08:58:43
Thanks Ivan & elton!
Amazing! :thumb: Still love that table. :P
Post by: evolveS on Mon, 27 October 2014, 17:58:30
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 27 October 2014, 18:04:05
Not sure why it doesn't default to hyphens.
Post by: evolveS on Mon, 27 October 2014, 19:03:19
Are you removing the slashes from the file name?
Not sure why it doesn't default to hyphens.
Removing the date with the slashes did the trick. I'm also a big dummy. Thanks!
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 27 October 2014, 19:19:01
If you have any other issues, take a look at the LightSaver GB threadAre you removing the slashes from the file name?
Not sure why it doesn't default to hyphens.
Removing the date with the slashes did the trick. I'm also a big dummy. Thanks!
Post by: bounstar on Mon, 27 October 2014, 20:53:05
Post by: Motan22 on Tue, 28 October 2014, 05:34:10
Not sure if this has been addressed before, what should I be looking at for replacing the side LED's?
Also interested in finding this out if someone would be so kind as to provide details of replacement smd leds. Do the existing side leds remove easily with a desoldering wick?
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 28 October 2014, 05:56:31
Not sure if this has been addressed before, what should I be looking at for replacing the side LED's?
Also interested in finding this out if someone would be so kind as to provide details of replacement smd leds. Do the existing side leds remove easily with a desoldering wick?
"The Side LEDs are 3.5mm x 2.8mm in size (3528 or 1411 package size). If you are changing the side LEDs, please note the orientation of the original LEDs before removing them: it's not symmetric!
All LED resistors appear to be 470 Ohm variety." -elton
Post by: Motan22 on Tue, 28 October 2014, 05:57:38
Not sure if this has been addressed before, what should I be looking at for replacing the side LED's?
Also interested in finding this out if someone would be so kind as to provide details of replacement smd leds. Do the existing side leds remove easily with a desoldering wick?
"The Side LEDs are 3.5mm x 2.8mm in size (3528 or 1411 package size). If you are changing the side LEDs, please note the orientation of the original LEDs before removing them: it's not symmetric!
All LED resistors appear to be 470 Ohm variety." -elton
Thanks Zeal!
Post by: wharrislv on Tue, 28 October 2014, 18:08:15
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 28 October 2014, 18:31:47
Does anyone know of an alternate way to get at these things? I'd really like to have a HHKB layout with MX switches.
KMAC happy, GH60, ctrlalt 60, GON hhkb are a few options.
Post by: Sygaldry on Tue, 28 October 2014, 21:08:04
Does anyone know of an alternate way to get at these things? I'd really like to have a HHKB layout with MX switches.
KMAC happy, GH60, ctrlalt 60, GON hhkb are a few options.
The Massdrop Infinity Keyboard would fit the bill as well, no?
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 29 October 2014, 07:34:10
Does anyone know of an alternate way to get at these things? I'd really like to have a HHKB layout with MX switches.
KMAC happy, GH60, ctrlalt 60, GON hhkb are a few options.
The Massdrop Infinity Keyboard would fit the bill as well, no?
Yup, that would work.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-keyboard-kit
Post by: billnye on Wed, 29 October 2014, 14:33:15
Since we all like pictures so much I figured I would take some of my Viper, sorrounded by various things that I am going to use to build it as soon as my stabilizers and springs arrive. The plate has one minor imperfection which is a tiny scratch at the left side of the spacebar, I don't mind it though. Once it is built I will never see it again :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6uOtotp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iX3VMnq.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/r8bYOJm.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/371ENob.jpg)
Just saw these, amazing pics man!
Out of curiosity, any other people doing PCB mount Vipers? I want to have ability to change switches and springs later.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 29 October 2014, 16:23:43
Thanks to Elton tjcaustin!
(http://i.imgur.com/UiZISy9.jpg)
These caps are placeholders until I get my hands on the Granite bonus back.
(http://i.imgur.com/fgllZO3.jpg)
In other news, xmodmap does not wanna play nicely like it did with my Poker II...
I'll have to tinker with it to see why.
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 16:25:54
Granite looks FANTASTIC with that case color, is that profile tough to use with the angle on the case?
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 16:31:47
I still don't have mine yet. Hopefully I'll get it by the end of the week.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 29 October 2014, 16:34:42
Oh wow Stylin,Not really, but I have larger hands than most.
...is that profile tough to use with the angle on the case?
The new layout is getting to me more than the case/caps profiles.
Also, this thing is a seriously beefy little keyboard.
I feel like I'm trying to lift Mjolnir every time I go to pose it.
Post by: Motan22 on Wed, 29 October 2014, 16:53:08
Got my Viper in!
Thanks to Elton tjcaustin!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UiZISy9.jpg)
These caps are placeholders until I get my hands on the Granite bonus back.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fgllZO3.jpg)
In other news, xmodmap does not wanna play nicely like it did with my Poker II...
I'll have to tinker with it to see why.
Wow, at least from your pictures, the blue-grey looks a lot less blue than duck's images. It looks so classy, almost wish I ordered that colour now! :)
Post by: Sent on Wed, 29 October 2014, 17:04:41
Got my Viper in!
Thanks to Elton tjcaustin!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UiZISy9.jpg)
These caps are placeholders until I get my hands on the Granite bonus back.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fgllZO3.jpg)
In other news, xmodmap does not wanna play nicely like it did with my Poker II...
I'll have to tinker with it to see why.
This...is...beautiful. /single tear rolls down face
Cannot wait to get my Viper.
Post by: cooldiscretion on Wed, 29 October 2014, 17:14:12
Got my Viper in!
Thanks to Elton tjcaustin!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UiZISy9.jpg)
These caps are placeholders until I get my hands on the Granite bonus back.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fgllZO3.jpg)
In other news, xmodmap does not wanna play nicely like it did with my Poker II...
I'll have to tinker with it to see why.
I just got very sad I didn't decide to get the granite keyset. That looks stellar though.
Post by: b7ad on Wed, 29 October 2014, 18:20:18
Post by: Synjin on Wed, 29 October 2014, 18:42:05
Great shots Stylin, very beautiful! And my Viper is sitting here in pieces with the made in Korea stickers still stuck on :)) Hopefully my parts I'm waiting on hurry up and get here soon...you're not alone... I'm still waiting for my led as well as stabs from Ivan's GB. My eagle might get eaten up by the viper if I wait too looooong
Post by: Karura on Wed, 29 October 2014, 19:06:43
Got my Viper in!
Thanks to Elton tjcaustin!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UiZISy9.jpg)
These caps are placeholders until I get my hands on the Granite bonus back.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fgllZO3.jpg)
In other news, xmodmap does not wanna play nicely like it did with my Poker II...
I'll have to tinker with it to see why.
Awesome colour. Is that the Titanium?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 29 October 2014, 19:07:20
Great shots Stylin, very beautiful! And my Viper is sitting here in pieces with the made in Korea stickers still stuck on :)) Hopefully my parts I'm waiting on hurry up and get here soon...you're not alone... I'm still waiting for my led as well as stabs from Ivan's GB. My eagle might get eaten up by the viper if I wait too looooong
Just remember, you can always assemble without LEDs! ;) (you will obviously still need to wait for stabs, I'm just saying)
Post by: Synjin on Wed, 29 October 2014, 20:55:56
Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 29 October 2014, 21:09:23
Got my Viper in!
Thanks to Elton tjcaustin!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UiZISy9.jpg)
These caps are placeholders until I get my hands on the Granite bonus back.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fgllZO3.jpg)
In other news, xmodmap does not wanna play nicely like it did with my Poker II...
I'll have to tinker with it to see why.
Woooooooooow that is awesome.
Btw, elton, any tracking info on Hoff and I's (and there was someone else but I forget who) order?
Post by: deci on Wed, 29 October 2014, 21:27:41
Got my Viper in!
Thanks to Elton tjcaustin!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UiZISy9.jpg)
These caps are placeholders until I get my hands on the Granite bonus back.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fgllZO3.jpg)
In other news, xmodmap does not wanna play nicely like it did with my Poker II...
I'll have to tinker with it to see why.
Looks amazing! So glad I ordered blue grey as well.
Btw, interesting layout you use. Modified Colemak huh?
I use a modified colemak layout as well currently.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 30 October 2014, 02:47:56
In the keymapping software, you have to leave the space directly to the right of the space bar blank, in in order for the bottom right mods to map correctly.
Otherwise, the software confuses your keyboard for an Eagle, and throws everything off.
So your bottom row should be [blank] L Key, L Key, Space [blank] R Key, R Key [blank]
Or maybe it's just mine ;)
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 07:06:07
Post by: phatdood9 on Fri, 31 October 2014, 00:32:27
Heads up, for anyone with a Viper:
In the keymapping software, you have to leave the space directly to the right of the space bar blank, in in order for the bottom right mods to map correctly.
Otherwise, the software confuses your keyboard for an Eagle, and throws everything off.
So your bottom row should be [blank] L Key, L Key, Space [blank] R Key, R Key [blank]
Or maybe it's just mine ;)
omg you are such a lifesaver :) I was wondering why the mods to the right of the space bar weren't working!!
here is a pic of my messy desk!
(http://i.imgur.com/WRWcUGml.jpg)
Post by: Sent on Fri, 31 October 2014, 00:35:07
Sorry they haven't shipped your order yet; Hoff, sniper and one other's. I think they will ship next week along with the 2nd batch..
Next week! Awwww yiiiisssss.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 31 October 2014, 01:52:22
Glad I could help, yo.Heads up, for anyone with a Viper:
In the keymapping software, you have to leave the space directly to the right of the space bar blank, in in order for the bottom right mods to map correctly.
Otherwise, the software confuses your keyboard for an Eagle, and throws everything off.
So your bottom row should be [blank] L Key, L Key, Space [blank] R Key, R Key [blank]
Or maybe it's just mine ;)
omg you are such a lifesaver :) I was wondering why the mods to the right of the space bar weren't working!!
here is a pic of my messy desk!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WRWcUGml.jpg)
I thought I had a broken switch, or something.
Post by: Sygaldry on Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:53:29
So sad I missed the Viper. :-[
Post by: WinterIsle on Fri, 31 October 2014, 22:11:30
omg you are such a lifesaver :) I was wondering why the mods to the right of the space bar weren't working!!That number pad is so cute :)
here is a pic of my messy desk!
Post by: MrChunky on Sun, 02 November 2014, 03:50:24
http://imgur.com/a/GOir7 (http://imgur.com/a/GOir7)
Thanks elton, duck and everyone else involved.
Post by: deci on Sun, 02 November 2014, 17:48:25
Blue grey looks absurdly good!
http://imgur.com/a/GOir7 (http://imgur.com/a/GOir7)
Thanks elton, duck and everyone else involved.
Gorgeous!
Post by: shimmy1996 on Mon, 03 November 2014, 01:05:43
Any possibilities for second round?
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:09:43
Note to self:
Don't cheap out on knock-off stabilizers...
(http://i.imgur.com/HQzWxY9.jpg)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 03 November 2014, 21:34:15
Had to send my Viper to Dorkvader for repair.
Note to self:
Don't cheap out on knock-off stabilizers...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HQzWxY9.jpg)
What happened to your stabs?
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 03 November 2014, 22:03:28
Not really sure, but here's the thread I made about it:Had to send my Viper to Dorkvader for repair.
Note to self:
Don't cheap out on knock-off stabilizers...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HQzWxY9.jpg)
What happened to your stabs?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65141.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65141.0)
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 03 November 2014, 22:06:04
Not really sure, but here's the thread I made about it:Had to send my Viper to Dorkvader for repair.
Note to self:
Don't cheap out on knock-off stabilizers...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HQzWxY9.jpg)
What happened to your stabs?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65141.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65141.0)
Damn, sorry I missed that.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 03 November 2014, 22:09:14
No worries, man.Not really sure, but here's the thread I made about it:Had to send my Viper to Dorkvader for repair.
Note to self:
Don't cheap out on knock-off stabilizers...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HQzWxY9.jpg)
What happened to your stabs?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65141.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65141.0)
Damn, sorry I missed that.
But yeah, only real Cherry stabs for me from now on.
The difference between those on my Poker II and the ones on my Viper are night and day.
Post by: Synjin on Mon, 03 November 2014, 22:18:08
Post by: WinterIsle on Tue, 04 November 2014, 07:10:50
Post by: Sygaldry on Tue, 04 November 2014, 07:42:36
Paypal primed and ready to beam funds to whoever has one to offer!
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 04 November 2014, 08:39:40
Post by: ideus on Tue, 04 November 2014, 08:44:44
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 04 November 2014, 10:11:40
Any viper dressed with SA key caps yet?
I don't have an SA set with a 7x spacebar yet. Otherwise I'd have Space Cadet pics to show off.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 04 November 2014, 15:18:04
Post by: Lurch on Wed, 05 November 2014, 12:56:54
hmu if u agree
Post by: Sent on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:42:47
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:32:43
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 06 November 2014, 05:49:50
Probably a dumb question but where are you guys getting your side LED's from? I looked around and found a lot of places selling strips but not the individual ones, at least, not in the color I want. :confused:
I have the same problem. I live in germany and I can't find a shop that sells single LEDs in that size. Only mouser carries 3 colors that I don't want. Dark red, yellow and yellow-green.
Post by: Sent on Thu, 06 November 2014, 14:35:58
I have the same problem. I live in germany and I can't find a shop that sells single LEDs in that size. Only mouser carries 3 colors that I don't want. Dark red, yellow and yellow-green.
Yuuuup. I found a place in Australia that sells the pink I want but shipping to me is 20 bucks. >:D
Post by: feizor on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:04:41
I have the same problem. I live in germany and I can't find a shop that sells single LEDs in that size. Only mouser carries 3 colors that I don't want. Dark red, yellow and yellow-green.
Yuuuup. I found a place in Australia that sells the pink I want but shipping to me is 20 bucks. >:D
Link please :)
Post by: Sent on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:23:40
Link please :)
http://www.ledsales.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=3528
If someone can confirm these are the correct ones, that'd be swell. And maybe...an Aussie can proxy? Cause...seriously, **** that shipping price.
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:47:54
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-POWER-TOP-SMD-SMT-Multicolor-PLCC-2-3528-1210-Bright-LED-Light-/191324593528?pt=US_Light_Bulbs&var=&hash=item7231509bf4
As for acrylic inserts, I think I'll be getting them next week.
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 06 November 2014, 16:45:24
http://www.ebay.de/itm/10-blaue-SMD-LEDs-PLCC2-3528-mini-Led-smds-BLAU-blue-/370395591815?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item563d4c3487
10 pieces for 2.09€ + 1€ shipping. Not a great price compared to those from china but still 3€ for more LEDs than I need AND they will most likely arrive next week. Probably going to order these!
Post by: demik on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:00:12
Post by: Sent on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:11:46
What about these ones?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-POWER-TOP-SMD-SMT-Multicolor-PLCC-2-3528-1210-Bright-LED-Light-/191324593528?pt=US_Light_Bulbs&var=&hash=item7231509bf4
As for acrylic inserts, I think I'll be getting them next week.
No pink. :( Might just have to go with white.
Edit: Looks like they have pink but it's not one of the options in the drop down. Time to message them. :rolleyes:
Edit 2: Or I'm just blind and a quick search in their store turned up what I was looking for. Dunno how I missed it before. Thanks, Elton.
Post by: jorgenslee on Fri, 07 November 2014, 03:20:03
Post by: epzy on Fri, 07 November 2014, 03:23:56
Hopefully someone kind enough would share their build log on this. That would be much appreciated.
here ya go: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61027.msg1519382#msg1519382
Post by: jorgenslee on Fri, 07 November 2014, 03:48:28
Hopefully someone kind enough would share their build log on this. That would be much appreciated.
here ya go: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61027.msg1519382#msg1519382
Cool. Thanks. Didn't see that before.
Post by: Sygaldry on Fri, 07 November 2014, 11:49:57
Anyone have an unbuilt Viper they are willing to part with?
I offer moneys and my eternal gratitude.
Help a brother out!
Post by: tjweir on Fri, 07 November 2014, 12:03:14
Hopefully someone kind enough would share their build log on this. That would be much appreciated.
here ya go: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61027.msg1519382#msg1519382
Awesome!
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 07 November 2014, 14:11:50
Post by: demik on Fri, 07 November 2014, 15:34:54
So here's my last ditch attempt to get one of these.$600
Anyone have an unbuilt Viper they are willing to part with?
I offer moneys and my eternal gratitude.
Help a brother out!
jk
Post by: ComradeSniper on Fri, 07 November 2014, 16:58:42
All is shipped now even 2nd batch. I'll update the tracking when I get them.
Awwwww yeah
Post by: Sent on Fri, 07 November 2014, 19:44:14
All is shipped now even 2nd batch. I'll update the tracking when I get them.
I'm doing the happy dance. Too bad I'm still waiting on other parts. :rolleyes:
Post by: Sygaldry on Fri, 07 November 2014, 20:00:25
So here's my last ditch attempt to get one of these.$600
Anyone have an unbuilt Viper they are willing to part with?
I offer moneys and my eternal gratitude.
Help a brother out!
jk
This made me sad.
I am a sad panda.
Post by: deci on Fri, 07 November 2014, 21:25:59
All is shipped now even 2nd batch. I'll update the tracking when I get them.
All stabs and switches acquired and modded and soldering station already set up...
I set it up on the kitchen table though so don't think my gf is too happy about that part :D
Post by: minho on Sat, 08 November 2014, 01:50:46
Post by: feizor on Sat, 08 November 2014, 02:35:45
Would anyone happen to know the default control or caps lock key on the viper? I used autohotkey to rebind capslock to control, but now I don't have a capslock anymore. Not the most crucial thing, but it would be nice if there was a way to easily rebind fn+tab to caps lock, especially considering default HHKB fn layer is there already. (I tried out that software on Duck's website, but it was quite confusing, and I'm not sure a caps lock key is worth that much time to me :p )
+Capslock::Capslock
The above autohotkey script line will make shift+caplock act as the caplock
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 08 November 2014, 14:20:40
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/9380f769eca5c7314158c2d0e7e38e56.jpg)
EDIT: I just figured it out. I had to wiggle the plate to allow it to settle on the stabs which brought all the switches level.
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 08 November 2014, 14:50:31
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 08 November 2014, 17:49:49
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 08 November 2014, 18:01:16
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 08 November 2014, 18:09:53
here it is
You da man, Elton!
Post by: feizor on Sat, 08 November 2014, 18:21:06
Link please :)
http://www.ledsales.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=3528
If someone can confirm these are the correct ones, that'd be swell. And maybe...an Aussie can proxy? Cause...seriously, **** that shipping price.
Just order these off ebay:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/170814255779
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/170814256699
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/121137407121
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 08 November 2014, 19:38:48
Everything else worked for me, but for some reason this arrow issue...
Post by: StylinGreymon on Sat, 08 November 2014, 19:51:42
Has anyone had issues programming the arrows on the viper/eagle? In the 02D Firmware they show as question marks and when I mapped those they displayed as empty.Change your locale to Korean.
Everything else worked for me, but for some reason this arrow issue...
Post by: trizkut on Sat, 08 November 2014, 19:51:51
Has anyone had issues programming the arrows on the viper/eagle? In the 02D Firmware they show as question marks and when I mapped those they displayed as empty.
Everything else worked for me, but for some reason this arrow issue...
You need to change your locale to Korean. You can use AppLocale (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=13209) to open 02D with Korean language locale without having to restart every time you want to change something.
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 08 November 2014, 20:12:11
Has anyone had issues programming the arrows on the viper/eagle? In the 02D Firmware they show as question marks and when I mapped those they displayed as empty.Change your locale to Korean.
Everything else worked for me, but for some reason this arrow issue...
Thanks so much, guys! I would have never figured that out. Finally finished the board. True HHKB style with 65g lubed & stickered MX blacks.Has anyone had issues programming the arrows on the viper/eagle? In the 02D Firmware they show as question marks and when I mapped those they displayed as empty.
Everything else worked for me, but for some reason this arrow issue...
You need to change your locale to Korean. You can use AppLocale (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=13209) to open 02D with Korean language locale without having to restart every time you want to change something.
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 08 November 2014, 20:41:42
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 08 November 2014, 22:21:13
For anyone interested here is a link to some pictures.
http://imgur.com/a/e4QMo
Post by: byker on Sat, 08 November 2014, 22:22:55
After a full day of assembly, here is my Viper. I decided to use 65g lubed and stickered Mx blacks with the exception of the spacebar which is a 75g grey.
For anyone interested here is a link to some pictures.
http://imgur.com/a/e4QMo
That looks amazing! Well done. :thumb:
Post by: loud_asian on Sun, 09 November 2014, 00:31:35
(http://i.imgur.com/ebqtPD1.jpg)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 09 November 2014, 00:36:43
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 09 November 2014, 00:39:18
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 09 November 2014, 00:40:35
Depending on how quickly you want one, you could buy the "winkeyless mods" kit from Originative's GMK Cyrillic set (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic) which comes with a 7x spacebar.
Then hope and pray it gets shipped.
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 09 November 2014, 00:50:52
Depending on how quickly you want one, you could buy the "winkeyless mods" kit from Originative's GMK Cyrillic set (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic) which comes with a 7x spacebar.
Then hope and pray it gets shipped.
I've had good experiences with their shipping and communication lately. Some people are still missing caps from age old orders though, so who knows.
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 09 November 2014, 09:07:04
After a full day of assembly, here is my Viper. I decided to use 65g lubed and stickered Mx blacks with the exception of the spacebar which is a 75g grey.
For anyone interested here is a link to some pictures.
http://imgur.com/a/e4QMo
If you don't mind me asking, can you take a photo with all LEDs on and your room's light off?
Post by: billnye on Sun, 09 November 2014, 09:08:15
well this sucks, anyone know where I can source a 7x spacebar?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ebqtPD1.jpg)
SP has a ton of them
http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/inventory/spacebar-inventory
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Sun, 09 November 2014, 09:37:36
Post by: epzy on Sun, 09 November 2014, 09:42:00
Quick question, Duck Eagle or Octagon?
60% vs 75%...
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 09 November 2014, 09:42:06
Quick question, Duck Eagle or Octagon?
Considering the Eagle GB is now over... Your answer should be obvious! :p
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 09 November 2014, 09:54:53
Zeal is right lol. Eagle GB just ended so only way to get an eagle is if someone was Willi g to let theirs go at such an early time. The second round just started shipping
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sun, 09 November 2014, 17:16:50
Thanks man!After a full day of assembly, here is my Viper. I decided to use 65g lubed and stickered Mx blacks with the exception of the spacebar which is a 75g grey.
For anyone interested here is a link to some pictures.
http://imgur.com/a/e4QMo
That looks amazing! Well done. :thumb:
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sun, 09 November 2014, 17:17:13
I'll take a pic this evening and upload it.After a full day of assembly, here is my Viper. I decided to use 65g lubed and stickered Mx blacks with the exception of the spacebar which is a 75g grey.
For anyone interested here is a link to some pictures.
http://imgur.com/a/e4QMo
If you don't mind me asking, can you take a photo with all LEDs on and your room's light off?
Post by: tribade on Mon, 10 November 2014, 00:13:43
After a full day of assembly, here is my Viper. I decided to use 65g lubed and stickered Mx blacks with the exception of the spacebar which is a 75g grey.
For anyone interested here is a link to some pictures.
http://imgur.com/a/e4QMo
Beautiful! Great job!
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 10 November 2014, 00:52:28
Post by: cooldiscretion on Mon, 10 November 2014, 01:01:06
Here ya go. Phone cam quality but it seemed to turn out alright.After a full day of assembly, here is my Viper. I decided to use 65g lubed and stickered Mx blacks with the exception of the spacebar which is a 75g grey.
For anyone interested here is a link to some pictures.
http://imgur.com/a/e4QMo
If you don't mind me asking, can you take a photo with all LEDs on and your room's light off?
http://imgur.com/69noc40
Post by: cooldiscretion on Mon, 10 November 2014, 01:01:47
Thanks! It was a really fun build!After a full day of assembly, here is my Viper. I decided to use 65g lubed and stickered Mx blacks with the exception of the spacebar which is a 75g grey.
For anyone interested here is a link to some pictures.
http://imgur.com/a/e4QMo
Beautiful! Great job!
Post by: feizor on Mon, 10 November 2014, 01:22:29
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 10 November 2014, 01:42:11
well this sucks, anyone know where I can source a 7x spacebar?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ebqtPD1.jpg)
Has anyone experienced an issue where the spacebar stab holes are 2 mms too far apart? My 7x DSA spacebar's stems are too short for the stab spacing on the PCB/plate.
I'm using a zero from a numpad as a spacebar for now, hopefully I can get my hands on some 7x GMK spacebars in the future
Post by: deci on Mon, 10 November 2014, 12:30:12
Tracking #s are up.
Oh wow thanks Elton!
Mine looks like it will be here tomorrow. :eek:
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 12 November 2014, 09:55:33
Clears for the alphas and numbers, blacks for the mods, blue for escape and a linear grey for the spacebar. Everything is 62g, lubed and stickered. The layout is very different for me, even though I did not use the split backspace and short right shift. Coming from ISO this was already different enough for me ;D I will install LEDs later when the 2x3x4 group buy finishes. I also did not replace the side LEDs yet because I don't feel confident enough yet. I will most likely go for a blue / teal mix. I will see how it will work out.
Also, I love these OG Cherry Doubleshots.
(http://i.imgur.com/pkKjxHV.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/7zMtmPu.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/4JZdU0J.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/maovywf.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/Yy5ZWli.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/mr5g59R.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/xOgQbuo.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/EINIFGb.jpg)
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 12 November 2014, 09:58:59
I am finally done! I certainly did not expect it to be THIS solid :eek: What a great board that is.
Clears for the alphas and numbers, blacks for the mods, blue for escape and a linear grey for the spacebar. Everything is 62g, lubed and stickered. The layout is very different for me, even though I did not use the split backspace and short right shift. Coming from ISO this was already different enough for me ;D I will install LEDs later when the 2x3x4 group buy finishes. I also did not replace the side LEDs yet because I don't feel confident enough yet. I will most likely go for a blue / teal mix. I will see how it will work out.
Also, I love these OG Cherry Doubleshots.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pkKjxHV.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7zMtmPu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4JZdU0J.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/maovywf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Yy5ZWli.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mr5g59R.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xOgQbuo.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EINIFGb.jpg)
Looks amazing, nice job!
Post by: argcargv on Wed, 12 November 2014, 10:00:03
I am finally done! I certainly did not expect it to be THIS solid :eek: What a great board that is.
Clears for the alphas and numbers, blacks for the mods, blue for escape and a linear grey for the spacebar. Everything is 62g, lubed and stickered. The layout is very different for me, even though I did not use the split backspace and short right shift. Coming from ISO this was already different enough for me ;D I will install LEDs later when the 2x3x4 group buy finishes. I also did not replace the side LEDs yet because I don't feel confident enough yet. I will most likely go for a blue / teal mix. I will see how it will work out.
Also, I love these OG Cherry Doubleshots.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pkKjxHV.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7zMtmPu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4JZdU0J.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/maovywf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Yy5ZWli.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mr5g59R.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xOgQbuo.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EINIFGb.jpg)
Such a beautiful board!
Post by: Lurch on Wed, 12 November 2014, 10:03:30
I am finally done! I certainly did not expect it to be THIS solid :eek: What a great board that is.
Clears for the alphas and numbers, blacks for the mods, blue for escape and a linear grey for the spacebar. Everything is 62g, lubed and stickered. The layout is very different for me, even though I did not use the split backspace and short right shift. Coming from ISO this was already different enough for me ;D I will install LEDs later when the 2x3x4 group buy finishes. I also did not replace the side LEDs yet because I don't feel confident enough yet. I will most likely go for a blue / teal mix. I will see how it will work out.
Also, I love these OG Cherry Doubleshots.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pkKjxHV.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7zMtmPu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4JZdU0J.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/maovywf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Yy5ZWli.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mr5g59R.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xOgQbuo.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EINIFGb.jpg)
Beautiful.
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 12 November 2014, 10:41:54
I am finally done! I certainly did not expect it to be THIS solid :eek: What a great board that is.
Clears for the alphas and numbers, blacks for the mods, blue for escape and a linear grey for the spacebar. Everything is 62g, lubed and stickered. The layout is very different for me, even though I did not use the split backspace and short right shift. Coming from ISO this was already different enough for me ;D I will install LEDs later when the 2x3x4 group buy finishes. I also did not replace the side LEDs yet because I don't feel confident enough yet. I will most likely go for a blue / teal mix. I will see how it will work out.
Also, I love these OG Cherry Doubleshots.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pkKjxHV.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7zMtmPu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4JZdU0J.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/maovywf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Yy5ZWli.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mr5g59R.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xOgQbuo.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EINIFGb.jpg)
Very clean board, I love how it looks with the clear housing tops and the cherry keyset. That's probably how I'd want mine to look like if I had one.
Also very nice photography too! It does the board justice.
Post by: deci on Thu, 13 November 2014, 13:36:47
Mine arrived in perfect condition and people were not understating how much of a tank this little thing is.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/200111/kb/IMAG0184.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/200111/kb/IMAG0185.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/200111/kb/IMAG0186.jpg)
edit: lol didn't notice until later that those win keys are upside down.
Post by: Kmynis on Thu, 13 November 2014, 13:52:09
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 13 November 2014, 17:24:52
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 13 November 2014, 17:39:06
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/13/a42512c29b58ff5cd20965161a51b113.jpg)
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/13/0b4110f3ac622f12eceee8008ec89ddb.jpg)
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 13 November 2014, 17:41:17
Post by: cooldiscretion on Thu, 13 November 2014, 17:45:42
Looking good already.Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/13/a42512c29b58ff5cd20965161a51b113.jpg)Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/13/0b4110f3ac622f12eceee8008ec89ddb.jpg)
Great Scotts! Sex-C
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 13 November 2014, 18:03:15
Looking good already.Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/13/a42512c29b58ff5cd20965161a51b113.jpg)Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/13/0b4110f3ac622f12eceee8008ec89ddb.jpg)
Damn, should have gotten myself some inserts
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 13 November 2014, 20:22:57
Here's the spreadsheet again for the inserts
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mlGWvNuk5QabOohBKYSD2rcQFcjALC0BZWs1RB1lV1E/pubhtml
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 13 November 2014, 20:41:20
I got extras..
Here's the spreadsheet again for the inserts
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mlGWvNuk5QabOohBKYSD2rcQFcjALC0BZWs1RB1lV1E/pubhtml
Cool, will you cater the frosted inserts you mentioned in Octagon GB?
Post by: Gloomy Moonie on Fri, 14 November 2014, 08:46:59
I am finally done! I certainly did not expect it to be THIS solid :eek: What a great board that is.
Clears for the alphas and numbers, blacks for the mods, blue for escape and a linear grey for the spacebar. Everything is 62g, lubed and stickered. The layout is very different for me, even though I did not use the split backspace and short right shift. Coming from ISO this was already different enough for me ;D I will install LEDs later when the 2x3x4 group buy finishes. I also did not replace the side LEDs yet because I don't feel confident enough yet. I will most likely go for a blue / teal mix. I will see how it will work out.
Also, I love these OG Cherry Doubleshots.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pkKjxHV.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7zMtmPu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4JZdU0J.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/maovywf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Yy5ZWli.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mr5g59R.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xOgQbuo.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EINIFGb.jpg)
Wow, congrats!
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 14 November 2014, 15:47:12
Post by: deci on Fri, 14 November 2014, 15:58:08
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 14 November 2014, 16:00:15
Is it possible to program in multimedia commands into the keyboard?e.g. play, pause, vol up, vol downUsing the default firmware, those commands are Mac-only, but your OS should have a program that allows you to map those commands anyway.
I have those set up using my window manager.
Post by: deci on Fri, 14 November 2014, 16:03:13
Is it possible to program in multimedia commands into the keyboard?e.g. play, pause, vol up, vol downUsing the default firmware, those commands are Mac-only, but your OS should have a program that allows you to map those commands anyway.
I have those set up using my window manager.
Wow no way to program multimedia in the default firmware?
All the more reason to use TMK then...
Post by: StylinGreymon on Fri, 14 November 2014, 16:08:43
Is it really that big a deal, though?Is it possible to program in multimedia commands into the keyboard?e.g. play, pause, vol up, vol downUsing the default firmware, those commands are Mac-only, but your OS should have a program that allows you to map those commands anyway.
I have those set up using my window manager.
Wow no way to program multimedia in the default firmware?
All the more reason to use TMK then...
I'm positive your media player has keybinds for those actions already.
Does TMK support the Eagle/Viper?
I might give it a try myself.
Post by: xybre on Fri, 14 November 2014, 16:36:20
Is it really that big a deal, though?Is it possible to program in multimedia commands into the keyboard?e.g. play, pause, vol up, vol downUsing the default firmware, those commands are Mac-only, but your OS should have a program that allows you to map those commands anyway.
I have those set up using my window manager.
Wow no way to program multimedia in the default firmware?
All the more reason to use TMK then...
I'm positive your media player has keybinds for those actions already.
Does TMK support the Eagle/Viper?
I might give it a try myself.
TMK can do a hell of a lot more than 02d's firmware. Currently TMK doesn't support Eagle/Viper though.
Post by: deci on Fri, 14 November 2014, 17:40:07
Is it really that big a deal, though?
I'm positive your media player has keybinds for those actions already.
Media keys in general aren't a big deal.
But this is just one of those things that should be easy to bind in a programmable keyboard.
TMK can do a hell of a lot more than 02d's firmware. Currently TMK doesn't support Eagle/Viper though.
Define "doesn't support"...
I'm pretty sure you just need to write/edit some keymap or pin matrix files for it?
Post by: xybre on Fri, 14 November 2014, 19:13:22
Is it really that big a deal, though?
I'm positive your media player has keybinds for those actions already.
Media keys in general aren't a big deal.
But this is just one of those things that should be easy to bind in a programmable keyboard.TMK can do a hell of a lot more than 02d's firmware. Currently TMK doesn't support Eagle/Viper though.
Define "doesn't support"...
I'm pretty sure you just need to write/edit some keymap or pin matrix files for it?
In the TMK thread and on the GitHub I asked about it, they said I should get a multimeter and build my own support.
Post by: deci on Fri, 14 November 2014, 20:52:46
In the TMK thread and on the GitHub I asked about it, they said I should get a multimeter and build my own support.
Ahh I see. I thought it wouldn't be too complicated since it's a 60% with a fairly standard layout and people are already using TMK for Light Savers...
I'll take a stab at it if I get a little less busy at work.
Post by: adrl on Tue, 18 November 2014, 00:15:45
Now to figure out led settings.
Post by: Karura on Tue, 18 November 2014, 01:11:49
Hopefully there will be another run in the future!
Post by: Sygaldry on Tue, 18 November 2014, 10:09:22
Seeing all these Vipers and Eagles being built is making me really want one :OThis. But hipefully sometime next year so my wallet can recover... just joined the Octagon drop and picked up a GON HHKB last week 0_0
Hopefully there will be another run in the future!
Post by: ithinkimkorean on Tue, 18 November 2014, 16:29:19
http://cfile9.uf.tistory.com/original/2121313352E50B8B28EC97
Post by: adrl on Tue, 18 November 2014, 18:05:16
Really happy!
Post by: demik on Tue, 18 November 2014, 18:27:02
Seeing all these Vipers and Eagles being built is making me really want one :O
Hopefully there will be another run in the future!
mine is sitting in my closet doing nothing >.>
still need switches and springs
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 18 November 2014, 18:40:00
lucky you. I'm still waiting for the correct stabs from ivanSeeing all these Vipers and Eagles being built is making me really want one :O
Hopefully there will be another run in the future!
mine is sitting in my closet doing nothing >.>
still need switches and springs
Post by: Razor Lotus on Tue, 18 November 2014, 19:05:33
Post by: keyit on Tue, 18 November 2014, 19:23:23
silly question but what kind of screwdrivers do you guys use to mount the pcb to the case? Causeit doesnt seem like a flat or a cross head, just something round
torx t6 i think
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 18 November 2014, 20:40:51
silly question but what kind of screwdrivers do you guys use to mount the pcb to the case? Causeit doesnt seem like a flat or a cross head, just something round
I used a 1.5 mm hex key
Post by: rockhawksam on Tue, 18 November 2014, 22:40:29
Post by: tribade on Wed, 19 November 2014, 01:10:13
Just finished my viper today! It has vintage cherry MX blues ripped straight from a Dolch board. (Attachment Link)
Freaking gorgeous! Can't wait until I get mine :)
Post by: adrl on Wed, 19 November 2014, 01:17:27
(https://i.imgur.com/Vpp7DNH.jpg)
I'll take better pics once I finish writing up my build log.
Post by: rockhawksam on Wed, 19 November 2014, 10:40:12
Thanks!Just finished my viper today! It has vintage cherry MX blues ripped straight from a Dolch board. (Attachment Link)
Freaking gorgeous! Can't wait until I get mine :)
Post by: Sygaldry on Wed, 19 November 2014, 10:43:59
Since everyone is doing it, here is mine (potatoe pics sorry)Toes!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Vpp7DNH.jpg)
I'll take better pics once I finish writing up my build log.
Post by: adrl on Wed, 19 November 2014, 15:56:15
(obligatory potato pics warning)
Post by: frosty on Thu, 20 November 2014, 04:05:57
Just finished my viper today! It has vintage cherry MX blues ripped straight from a Dolch board. (Attachment Link)
Are these Ivan R2?
Post by: rockhawksam on Thu, 20 November 2014, 14:32:41
Nope, all of the caps on the board are originative blank pbt aside from the GMK spacebarJust finished my viper today! It has vintage cherry MX blues ripped straight from a Dolch board. (Attachment Link)
Are these Ivan R2?
Post by: deci on Thu, 20 November 2014, 17:02:57
Just finished my viper today! It has vintage cherry MX blues ripped straight from a Dolch board. (Attachment Link)
ohhhh i like the look of this one.
nice! :thumb:
Post by: seedvd on Thu, 20 November 2014, 19:00:56
(http://i.imgur.com/y0DVpqL.jpg)
My Duck Eagle is built with lubed Clear switches, Mill-Max SIP sockets, switch stickers, 2x3x4mm leds and Cherry 1800 keycaps.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Thu, 20 November 2014, 20:24:13
(http://i.imgur.com/y0DVpqL.jpg) (http://imgur.com/y0DVpqL)
Pretty tasty, man.
Post by: seedvd on Fri, 21 November 2014, 00:44:30
Post by: geogga on Fri, 21 November 2014, 09:31:31
Thanks Elton, Duck0113 and TrueCustom!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/y0DVpqL.jpg)
My Duck Eagle is built with lubed Clear switches, Mill-Max SIP sockets, switch stickers, 2x3x4mm leds and Cherry 1800 keycaps.
Beautiful! Are those cherry 1800 keycaps hard to get?
Post by: Razor Lotus on Fri, 21 November 2014, 13:33:21
Thanks! :D
Post by: Vintage on Fri, 21 November 2014, 16:58:33
Thanks Elton, Duck0113 and TrueCustom!wow, love the LED colors man.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/y0DVpqL.jpg)
My Duck Eagle is built with lubed Clear switches, Mill-Max SIP sockets, switch stickers, 2x3x4mm leds and Cherry 1800 keycaps.
Post by: adrl on Fri, 21 November 2014, 17:48:28
for those of you who've used red LEDs as your main LED (not the default red ones below the PCB), do you have to add a resistor or something? Does it work normally if you just solder the red LEDs in?Are you talking about red led for switches?
Thanks! :D
Mine works fine. I'm using 1.8mm leds though.
Post by: paobit on Fri, 21 November 2014, 20:01:30
Post by: demik on Fri, 21 November 2014, 20:04:52
Hmm is it still possible to lube the clear switches if I already assembled mine?
get a tub of lube and dip the whole board in it
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 21 November 2014, 20:10:21
Hmm is it still possible to lube the clear switches if I already assembled mine?
get a tub of lube and dip the whole board in it
Do it (http://www.amazon.com/Passion-Natural-Water-Based-Lubricant-Gallon/dp/B005MR3IVO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416622060&sr=8-1&keywords=lube+drum).
Post by: paobit on Fri, 21 November 2014, 20:33:27
Hmm is it still possible to lube the clear switches if I already assembled mine?
get a tub of lube and dip the whole board in it
LOL might as well. Also when I'm trying to get a different keyboard layout..I don't see arrow key options on the 02D program? Or am I missing something?
Post by: trizkut on Fri, 21 November 2014, 21:12:51
LOL might as well. Also when I'm trying to get a different keyboard layout..I don't see arrow key options on the 02D program? Or am I missing something?
You need to change your locale to korean to see the arrows. You can use AppLocale (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=13209) to change locale just for the 02d.exe
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 21 November 2014, 23:43:08
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/21/aa2396e1c565072c579fb6364ad30cf6.jpg)
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/21/c558bedfcd094fd81ea34d572c22f393.jpg)
Post by: cooldiscretion on Fri, 21 November 2014, 23:47:08
Finally got mine soldered up!Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/21/aa2396e1c565072c579fb6364ad30cf6.jpg)Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/21/c558bedfcd094fd81ea34d572c22f393.jpg)
Wow, Elton. That is some superb ****, son. :thumb:
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 22 November 2014, 00:12:58
Finally got mine soldered up!Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/21/aa2396e1c565072c579fb6364ad30cf6.jpg)Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/21/c558bedfcd094fd81ea34d572c22f393.jpg)
Wow, Elton. That is some superb ****, son. :thumb:
Whoa. Are those cyan LEDs?
I've got cyan LEDs waiting for the Octagon :thumb: :thumb:
(this is tempting me to swap from Blue Grey to Black...)
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 22 November 2014, 11:12:46
As for the inserts..I'm still packing them. 2/3 is done. I'm thinking of dropping them off on Monday.
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 22 November 2014, 11:23:10
As for the inserts..I'm still packing them. 2/3 is done. I'm thinking of dropping them off on Monday.Excellent! The Orion will finally be complete. ;)
Post by: demik on Sat, 22 November 2014, 11:24:52
Yeah they're the cyan LEDs from aliexpress. I wonder if I can replace the bottom side LEDs with these ones?
As for the inserts..I'm still packing them. 2/3 is done. I'm thinking of dropping them off on Monday.
unless they are smd i dont think you can
Post by: whentheclouds on Sat, 22 November 2014, 14:59:20
Post by: bazh on Sat, 22 November 2014, 16:28:37
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 22 November 2014, 21:03:17
Post by: adrl on Sat, 22 November 2014, 22:23:51
So whenever I press any row 5 key, this viper that I'm working on completely spazzes out and the key logger shows it actuating all ctrl, alt, super, space and n and b keys in a huge, lag inducing stream. How do I make with the fix?Hmmm.
Check traces? Check solder? Did you change anything for the firmware?
Post by: geogga on Sat, 22 November 2014, 22:43:15
As for the inserts..I'm still packing them. 2/3 is done. I'm thinking of dropping them off on Monday.Excellent! The Orion will finally be complete. ;)
Pictures when that happen plz. Probably my end game cherry board...KMAC after and then a Duck Eagle.
Missed this GB and deeply regret it...
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 22 November 2014, 23:18:39
So whenever I press any row 5 key, this viper that I'm working on completely spazzes out and the key logger shows it actuating all ctrl, alt, super, space and n and b keys in a huge, lag inducing stream. How do I make with the fix?
Try resetting the firmware?
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/22/df7a3798931156bd24b52a34386331d8.jpg)
Potato pic with no light at all
It looks more green irl
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 22 November 2014, 23:38:32
So whenever I press any row 5 key, this viper that I'm working on completely spazzes out and the key logger shows it actuating all ctrl, alt, super, space and n and b keys in a huge, lag inducing stream. How do I make with the fix?Hmmm.
Check traces? Check solder? Did you change anything for the firmware?
Nope, no firmware changes. I've also reflowed all switches affected. The other vipers I've made so far work fine, traces I can see look fine, but I wasn't thinking to look before I put the plate on to check the top of the pcb.
Post by: adrl on Sun, 23 November 2014, 02:04:04
You try what elton said?So whenever I press any row 5 key, this viper that I'm working on completely spazzes out and the key logger shows it actuating all ctrl, alt, super, space and n and b keys in a huge, lag inducing stream. How do I make with the fix?Hmmm.
Check traces? Check solder? Did you change anything for the firmware?
Nope, no firmware changes. I've also reflowed all switches affected. The other vipers I've made so far work fine, traces I can see look fine, but I wasn't thinking to look before I put the plate on to check the top of the pcb.
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 23 November 2014, 02:07:51
You try what elton said?So whenever I press any row 5 key, this viper that I'm working on completely spazzes out and the key logger shows it actuating all ctrl, alt, super, space and n and b keys in a huge, lag inducing stream. How do I make with the fix?Hmmm.
Check traces? Check solder? Did you change anything for the firmware?
Nope, no firmware changes. I've also reflowed all switches affected. The other vipers I've made so far work fine, traces I can see look fine, but I wasn't thinking to look before I put the plate on to check the top of the pcb.
I totally didn't see that. But either way, I did try, but
Post by: adrl on Sun, 23 November 2014, 02:26:54
Post by: deci on Sun, 23 November 2014, 03:33:27
To enter dfu mode, you have to hold caps lock while plugging in usb.yeah also dont forget to install the avr drivers after you first put it in bootmode or flip wont be able to find it. that tripped me up for a little bit.
Post by: paobit on Sun, 23 November 2014, 14:23:18
LOL might as well. Also when I'm trying to get a different keyboard layout..I don't see arrow key options on the 02D program? Or am I missing something?
You need to change your locale to korean to see the arrows. You can use AppLocale (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=13209) to change locale just for the 02d.exe
Thanks!
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 23 November 2014, 17:03:43
Post by: adrl on Sun, 23 November 2014, 17:19:18
Ok, flip sees keyboard and that's fine, I can get it in bootloader, but the o2d keymapper isn't saving the hex file I create now. It says run time error '76' path not foundRename it to something else.
The default naming scheme causes that.
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 23 November 2014, 17:31:54
Ok, flip sees keyboard and that's fine, I can get it in bootloader, but the o2d keymapper isn't saving the hex file I create now. It says run time error '76' path not foundRename it to something else.
The default naming scheme causes that.
Now I know it isn't firmware based. Time to disassemble and check under plate.
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sun, 23 November 2014, 17:51:25
Ok, flip sees keyboard and that's fine, I can get it in bootloader, but the o2d keymapper isn't saving the hex file I create now. It says run time error '76' path not foundRename it to something else.
The default naming scheme causes that.
Now I know it isn't firmware based. Time to disassemble and check under plate.
Sorry to hear you're having troubles with your board. I wonder if maybe some of the diodes were soldered on backwards before they shipped you the PCB.
If polarity is marked on the PCB, it might be worth checking over.
Post by: feizor on Mon, 24 November 2014, 01:08:59
Ok, flip sees keyboard and that's fine, I can get it in bootloader, but the o2d keymapper isn't saving the hex file I create now. It says run time error '76' path not foundRename it to something else.
The default naming scheme causes that.
Now I know it isn't firmware based. Time to disassemble and check under plate.
That's not a hardware issue. Just create a new text file and save as viper.hex then save over that file in o2d keymapper. The software has issues creating new files.
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 24 November 2014, 01:32:15
Ok, flip sees keyboard and that's fine, I can get it in bootloader, but the o2d keymapper isn't saving the hex file I create now. It says run time error '76' path not foundRename it to something else.
The default naming scheme causes that.
Now I know it isn't firmware based. Time to disassemble and check under plate.
That's not a hardware issue. Just create a new text file and save as viper.hex then save over that file in o2d keymapper. The software has issues creating new files.
I did that, I was able to reflash the firmware fine. Same issues, though.
Post by: feizor on Mon, 24 November 2014, 01:53:28
Ok, flip sees keyboard and that's fine, I can get it in bootloader, but the o2d keymapper isn't saving the hex file I create now. It says run time error '76' path not foundRename it to something else.
The default naming scheme causes that.
Now I know it isn't firmware based. Time to disassemble and check under plate.
That's not a hardware issue. Just create a new text file and save as viper.hex then save over that file in o2d keymapper. The software has issues creating new files.
I did that, I was able to reflash the firmware fine. Same issues, though.
Ah sorry, I read that out of context.
Post by: feizor on Mon, 24 November 2014, 01:59:21
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 24 November 2014, 11:27:04
Are all the diodes soldered the right way?
Yep, all pointed to the right side mods
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 24 November 2014, 14:31:49
Could 2 quick flashes mean a specific fault? If so, what?
Post by: feizor on Mon, 24 November 2014, 15:13:32
Something I just noticed, the caps LED is blinking what seems to be an error code and won't turn on solid when I press the caps lock
Could 2 quick flashes mean a specific fault? If so, what?
The capslock led blinks indicate the layer you are currently on. One blink for layer one, two blinks for layer two etc.
So it would seem you are currently stuck on layer two. Try using mfn(3) + 1 to get back to layer 1. ie quickly press mfn three times, holding it down the third time and pressing the number 1.
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 24 November 2014, 15:18:16
Something I just noticed, the caps LED is blinking what seems to be an error code and won't turn on solid when I press the caps lock
Could 2 quick flashes mean a specific fault? If so, what?
The capslock led blinks indicate the layer you are currently on. One blink for layer one, two blinks for layer two etc.
So it would seem you are currently stuck on layer two. Try using mfn(3) + 1 to get back to layer 1. ie quickly press mfn three times, holding it down the third time and pressing the number 1.
Ok. Dang, I was hoping it would help diag. Oh well.
Post by: Sygaldry on Tue, 25 November 2014, 16:19:03
IMSTO is the only place I can find one (and they cost a boatload for shipping 5 dollars for the spacebar and 10 for shipping)
Post by: MrChunky on Tue, 25 November 2014, 18:02:03
So um... those of you with Cherry profile caps (BSP or GMK) where are you getting 7u spacebars?
IMSTO is the only place I can find one (and they cost a boatload for shipping 5 dollars for the spacebar and 10 for shipping)
I think the ones on IMSTO's website are only for purchase with a BSP set, you can't buy them separately. At least that's what he said initially. That's how I got mine by the way.
Ivan's GMK sets also come with 7u spacebars.
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 25 November 2014, 18:47:09
If you want them..PM me as I want to do them together at once.
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 26 November 2014, 05:57:44
I've shipped most of the inserts out yesterday.
Sounds good. :thumb:
Now I need some double sided tape...
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:56:57
I've shipped most of the inserts out yesterday.
Awesome! Now I need to decide if I should make one of my sets look frosted.
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 26 November 2014, 13:35:30
I have ordered two sets and intend to frost one of them. Should be able to post pictures when I get them.I've shipped most of the inserts out yesterday.Awesome! Now I need to decide if I should make one of my sets look frosted.
Post by: adrl on Thu, 27 November 2014, 15:01:03
Received my inserts.
Potato Pics
(https://i.imgur.com/aLRCMhj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qBZURI5.jpg)
Don't forget to peel of the plastic!
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 29 November 2014, 11:06:40
(http://i.imgur.com/gk4yvtL.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ehHp2cw.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Dp1e3hN.jpg)
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 29 November 2014, 11:39:12
I see a lot of people want to try frosting/sanding these but someone should try laser engraving them to make interesting light designs!
Post by: rockhawksam on Sat, 29 November 2014, 12:03:27
Got my inserts today, thanks Elton! Board looks a lot more complete now! Only waiting for cyan LEDs and the courage to replace the side LEDs :xAre you going to desolder/resolder the whole board to put the LEDs in?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gk4yvtL.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ehHp2cw.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Dp1e3hN.jpg)
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 29 November 2014, 12:10:16
I have ordered two sets and intend to frost one of them. Should be able to post pictures when I get them.I've shipped most of the inserts out yesterday.Awesome! Now I need to decide if I should make one of my sets look frosted.
How do you frost these? I was just going to sand it with a fine grit but im not sure if tharl work
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 29 November 2014, 13:25:56
Got my inserts today, thanks Elton! Board looks a lot more complete now! Only waiting for cyan LEDs and the courage to replace the side LEDs :xAre you going to desolder/resolder the whole board to put the LEDs in?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gk4yvtL.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ehHp2cw.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Dp1e3hN.jpg)
No, I just have to put them through the hole and solder them onto the PCB. Shouldn't take too long.
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 02 December 2014, 17:32:24
Awesome! Now I need to decide if I should make one of my sets look frosted.YES... (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1551072#msg1551072)
(http://i.imgur.com/O0Rf9Mgh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/O0Rf9Mg)
No Frosty
(http://i.imgur.com/lc63T8mh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/lc63T8m)
Yes Frosty
Post by: Razor Lotus on Wed, 03 December 2014, 13:37:31
Show ImageAwesome! Now I need to decide if I should make one of my sets look frosted.YES... (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1551072#msg1551072)
(http://i.imgur.com/O0Rf9Mgh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/O0Rf9Mg)
No Frosty
(http://i.imgur.com/lc63T8mh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/lc63T8m)
Yes Frosty
Wow man looks good!
Btw, what LEDs are you using? That colour looks really great :)
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 03 December 2014, 14:24:50
Wow man looks good!Margon assembled mine but they seem like regular red leds. It's the stainless plate with the clear tops that causes this "fire/lava" effect on camera. It is a little bit more reddish IRL.
Btw, what LEDs are you using? That colour looks really great :)
(http://i.imgur.com/m0u0eYkh.jpg) (http://imgur.com/m0u0eYk)
Post by: feizor on Wed, 03 December 2014, 15:02:19
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 04 December 2014, 20:31:25
Post by: keyit on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:28:15
Can anyone possibly help me program my viper? Btw wher eis the default ctrl key for this?
what do you need help with exactly?
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Thu, 04 December 2014, 21:47:06
Can anyone possibly help me program my viper? Btw wher eis the default ctrl key for this?
working with synjin via PM.
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 06 December 2014, 20:31:00
I'm trying to decide whether I want Granites (DSA) or Classic Beige Otaku (Cherry Profile) on my Viper (which finally touched down Stateside and recently got through customs!).
Post by: billnye on Sat, 06 December 2014, 20:33:17
So what's the general consensus on the preferred keycap profile for these boards?
I'm trying to decide whether I want Granites (DSA) or Classic Beige Otaku (Cherry Profile) on my Viper (which finally touched down Stateside and recently got through customs!).
Cherry profile is always best profile.
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 06 December 2014, 20:44:08
So what's the general consensus on the preferred keycap profile for these boards?
I'm trying to decide whether I want Granites (DSA) or Classic Beige Otaku (Cherry Profile) on my Viper (which finally touched down Stateside and recently got through customs!).
Cherry profile is always best profile.
But my only Cherry set (Classic Beige Otaku) is missing a 1.75u Right Shift :-X
Post by: billnye on Sat, 06 December 2014, 20:46:21
So what's the general consensus on the preferred keycap profile for these boards?
I'm trying to decide whether I want Granites (DSA) or Classic Beige Otaku (Cherry Profile) on my Viper (which finally touched down Stateside and recently got through customs!).
Cherry profile is always best profile.
But my only Cherry set (Classic Beige Otaku) is missing a 1.75u Right Shift :-X
Gotta get the full right shift fam. fn was meant to be on the bottom row anyway :p
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 06 December 2014, 20:50:54
So what's the general consensus on the preferred keycap profile for these boards?
I'm trying to decide whether I want Granites (DSA) or Classic Beige Otaku (Cherry Profile) on my Viper (which finally touched down Stateside and recently got through customs!).
Cherry profile is always best profile.
But my only Cherry set (Classic Beige Otaku) is missing a 1.75u Right Shift :-X
Gotta get the full right shift fam. fn was meant to be on the bottom row anyway :p
Noooo, with less keys on the bottom row, it's hard to find a place to fit the FN
Plus, I love the HHKB split Shift/FN
Push comes to shove, I'll just wait to score a GMK CYMW kit or something =/
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 06 December 2014, 20:51:32
So what's the general consensus on the preferred keycap profile for these boards?
I'm trying to decide whether I want Granites (DSA) or Classic Beige Otaku (Cherry Profile) on my Viper (which finally touched down Stateside and recently got through customs!).
Cherry profile is always best profile.
Billnye420 is right. (what has this world come to)
Cherry is best. If you're having issues with cap sizes, I'd try to find a CMYK or other set that can flesh out the missing caps. But that's obviously a lot of work, I don't mean to make it seem easy. But IMO it's worth it since Cherry profile is best. :))
Post by: billnye on Sat, 06 December 2014, 20:52:12
So what's the general consensus on the preferred keycap profile for these boards?
I'm trying to decide whether I want Granites (DSA) or Classic Beige Otaku (Cherry Profile) on my Viper (which finally touched down Stateside and recently got through customs!).
Cherry profile is always best profile.
But my only Cherry set (Classic Beige Otaku) is missing a 1.75u Right Shift :-X
Gotta get the full right shift fam. fn was meant to be on the bottom row anyway :p
Noooo, with less keys on the bottom row, it's hard to find a place to fit the FN
Plus, I love the HHKB split Shift/FN
Push comes to shove, I'll just wait to score a GMK CYMW kit or something =/
I might be able to help you with that ;)
Send me a pm if you are interested in a set
Post by: demik on Sat, 06 December 2014, 21:08:48
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 06 December 2014, 22:40:13
1800 shift master raceAlready have a laser printed set. Don't like
Post by: demik on Sat, 06 December 2014, 22:41:35
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 06 December 2014, 23:21:20
don't see what that has to do with the size of the 1800 shift but okay o.OIts a laser printed 1800 set, I don't like it
I wish it was dye sub
Post by: demik on Sat, 06 December 2014, 23:23:16
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 06 December 2014, 23:26:11
Post by: Vintage on Sat, 06 December 2014, 23:40:20
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 06 December 2014, 23:58:07
don't see what that has to do with the size of the 1800 shift but okay o.OIts a laser printed 1800 set, I don't like it
I wish it was dye sub
I think you're missing the point. You made a comment about wanting a short right shift, so demik said 1800 layouts have short right shifts. Then you said that you have a laser printed 1800 set and you don't like it. That's irrelevant. If you don't want lasered caps, don't buy lasered caps.
??
Post by: Sygaldry on Sun, 07 December 2014, 00:20:31
don't see what that has to do with the size of the 1800 shift but okay o.OIts a laser printed 1800 set, I don't like it
I wish it was dye sub
I think you're missing the point. You made a comment about wanting a short right shift, so demik said 1800 layouts have short right shifts. Then you said that you have a laser printed 1800 set and you don't like it. That's irrelevant. If you don't want lasered caps, don't buy lasered caps.
??
no I didn't miss the point
Just stated that I have a set of 1800 caps and wish they were dye subbed.
0.0
Post by: demik on Sun, 07 December 2014, 00:26:27
Post by: Sygaldry on Sun, 07 December 2014, 04:01:52
well i like turtles but i wish they were penguins
If I realized I would be gang raped for posting my thoughts on one particular iteration of a keyset I would have refrained from responding.... nvm.... what was I expecting... this is GH after all... keyboards are our weapon of choice.
You win. Sry for offending you.
TIL: be very careful when responding to demik
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Post by: billnye on Sun, 07 December 2014, 11:53:00
Those vortex thick PBT keycaps being sold on Massdrop occasionally are all cherry profiles aren't they?
I think the doubleshot PBT is OEM
Yes they're OEM
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 07 December 2014, 12:31:01
Post by: deci on Sun, 07 December 2014, 18:42:33
Those vortex thick PBT keycaps being sold on Massdrop occasionally are all cherry profiles aren't they?
the black ones that are blank or laser etched are cherry profile
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-pbt-keycaps
i have blank ones and they are pretty nice although they are more of a very dark grey than an actual black.
the double shot ones however are oem.
either way the profile should be in the description.
Post by: demik on Sun, 07 December 2014, 20:42:42
well i like turtles but i wish they were penguins
If I realized I would be gang raped for posting my thoughts on one particular iteration of a keyset I would have refrained from responding.... nvm.... what was I expecting... this is GH after all... keyboards are our weapon of choice.
You win. Sry for offending you.
TIL: be very careful when responding to demikShow Image(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGlumN6AYnE1r6a022EX3sYXI0uFF9l7hpTxyau0crEXoAaJMgdtchkWw)
you didn't offend me. just your reply threw me off since i was agreeing with you on the short right shift then you said you didn't like it o.O
Post by: Sygaldry on Sun, 07 December 2014, 22:08:36
Ah, in that case I was probably just unclear with my initial post. My bad.well i like turtles but i wish they were penguins
If I realized I would be gang raped for posting my thoughts on one particular iteration of a keyset I would have refrained from responding.... nvm.... what was I expecting... this is GH after all... keyboards are our weapon of choice.
You win. Sry for offending you.
TIL: be very careful when responding to demikShow Image(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGlumN6AYnE1r6a022EX3sYXI0uFF9l7hpTxyau0crEXoAaJMgdtchkWw)
you didn't offend me. just your reply threw me off since i was agreeing with you on the short right shift then you said you didn't like it o.O
All I meant to convey is that even though I am super sure of using a short right shift, I am reluctant to use the one from my own 1800 set which is laser printed and feels completely different to the touch from my Otaku Classic Beige set. I was directing my "dislike" towards my particular 1800 keyset not against the 1800 keyset in general or your post.
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 08 December 2014, 08:47:02
It's a motley mix of switches, but it's all part of a plan I swear.
[attach=1]
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Mon, 08 December 2014, 08:58:19
Nothing is soldered yet, but I finally had some time to get working on my Viper.
It's a motley mix of switches, but it's all part of a plan I swear.
(Attachment Link)
Nice red switch covers! :thumb:
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 08 December 2014, 09:08:49
Nothing is soldered yet, but I finally had some time to get working on my Viper.
It's a motley mix of switches, but it's all part of a plan I swear.
(Attachment Link)
Nice red switch covers! :thumb:
Thanks, I have white as well, but the white covers and the clear stems look weird together.
Post by: Sygaldry on Mon, 08 December 2014, 19:15:13
Post by: demik on Mon, 08 December 2014, 19:46:33
good bye viper.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 08 December 2014, 20:15:02
my viper stayed with me for a total of about 2 weeks (never assembled)You sold it, or something?
good bye viper.
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 08 December 2014, 20:15:35
my viper stayed with me for a total of about 2 weeks (never assembled)
good bye viper.
mfw demik sold another faux hhkb
Post by: demik on Mon, 08 December 2014, 20:50:43
my viper stayed with me for a total of about 2 weeks (never assembled)You sold it, or something?
good bye viper.
yup.
true hhkb 4 lyfe
Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 09 December 2014, 09:31:38
2nd picture is an over exposure though but I kinda like the effect.
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 09 December 2014, 11:40:53
Here's my unassembled Viper with the insert I got yesterday. Sanded with 260 for the frosted look.That looks great! Seems like a coarser grit gives an even more diffused look.
2nd picture is an over exposure though but I kinda like the effect.
Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 09 December 2014, 11:48:08
Here's my unassembled Viper with the insert I got yesterday. Sanded with 260 for the frosted look.That looks great! Seems like a coarser grit gives an even more diffused look.
2nd picture is an over exposure though but I kinda like the effect.
Yeah I guess, I think we could use 100 on the side of the LED. Since it is hidden it does not matter.
Post by: billnye on Tue, 09 December 2014, 12:18:11
Here's my unassembled Viper with the insert I got yesterday. Sanded with 260 for the frosted look.That looks great! Looks like I'm switching grit haha
2nd picture is an over exposure though but I kinda like the effect.
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 09 December 2014, 12:43:00
Post by: ceflame on Tue, 09 December 2014, 19:31:06
Post by: billnye on Tue, 09 December 2014, 19:43:39
Post by: geogga on Tue, 09 December 2014, 19:49:29
Post by: Sygaldry on Tue, 09 December 2014, 20:08:09
If anyone wants a viper plate I can send it to you for shipping cost only!I wonder if it would be possible to mod the case to fit alps switches. :cool:
Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 09 December 2014, 20:09:55
If anyone wants a viper plate I can send it to you for shipping cost only!
I'm interested. how much shipped to phil?
Post by: billnye on Tue, 09 December 2014, 20:31:45
If anyone wants a viper plate I can send it to you for shipping cost only!
I'm interested. how much shipped to phil?
I'll pm you!
Post by: billnye on Tue, 09 December 2014, 20:33:47
I downloaded dfu-programmer 0.7, but when I try to run the exe, it says "The program can't start because libus0.dll is missing from your computer."
Any help would be appreciated :)
Post by: ithinkimkorean on Tue, 09 December 2014, 20:36:24
(http://i.imgur.com/KdwGN97.jpg?1) Minus the hex files
Post by: billnye on Tue, 09 December 2014, 20:43:19
Does everything in your folder look kind of like this?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KdwGN97.jpg?1)Minus the hex files
(http://i.gyazo.com/70582aa4df4effe28a3db1102bc2168d.png)
Looks like we pretty much have the same files.
Post by: trizkut on Tue, 09 December 2014, 20:49:08
Does everything in your folder look kind of like this?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KdwGN97.jpg?1)Minus the hex filesShow Image(http://i.gyazo.com/70582aa4df4effe28a3db1102bc2168d.png)
Looks like we pretty much have the same files.
Are you on windows 32 bit (x86) by any chance? Just had a glance at the dfu-prof-usb-1.2.2 folder, and the libusb dll in that folder is named libusb0_x86.dll. If so, try renaming it? :D
Post by: billnye on Tue, 09 December 2014, 20:52:11
Does everything in your folder look kind of like this?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KdwGN97.jpg?1)Minus the hex filesShow Image(http://i.gyazo.com/70582aa4df4effe28a3db1102bc2168d.png)
Looks like we pretty much have the same files.
Are you on windows 32 bit (x86) by any chance? Just had a glance at the dfu-prof-usb-1.2.2 folder, and the libusb dll in that folder is named libusb0_x86.dll. If so, try renaming it? :D
64 bit. I tried renaming the file but nothing changed, same crash error. :(
Post by: trizkut on Tue, 09 December 2014, 21:01:54
64 bit. I tried renaming the file but nothing changed, same crash error. :(
Did you already install the atmel driver? Just copied the files to a different computer and tried running dfu-programmer.exe and got the same error (though I never use it, I just use the 02d.exe)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=56877.0;attach=76678 (pages 14-16)
Post by: billnye on Tue, 09 December 2014, 21:12:29
64 bit. I tried renaming the file but nothing changed, same crash error. :(
Did you already install the atmel driver? Just copied the files to a different computer and tried running dfu-programmer.exe and got the same error (though I never use it, I just use the 02d.exe)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=56877.0;attach=76678 (pages 14-16)
That worked! I guess I had to skip a few steps. Thanks man :thumb:
EDIT: this article from EnjoyClick was really helpful
More
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgeekhack.org%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D56877.0%3Battach%3D75428&ei=jriHVJD7DcehgwSj_YDgBA&usg=AFQjCNGrdKF7lLK6s1vZBIBIqjqiMjfKKA&sig2=2FRj_irRFLrVHk2CPe8A4A&bvm=bv.81449611,d.eXY&cad=rja
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 10 December 2014, 03:37:00
That certainly is! Now I know why reprogramming my Orion didn't work. XDThat worked! I guess I had to skip a few steps. Thanks man :thumb:64 bit. I tried renaming the file but nothing changed, same crash error. :(Did you already install the atmel driver? Just copied the files to a different computer and tried running dfu-programmer.exe and got the same error (though I never use it, I just use the 02d.exe)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=56877.0;attach=76678 (pages 14-16)
EDIT: this article from EnjoyClick was really helpfulMorehttps://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgeekhack.org%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D56877.0%3Battach%3D75428&ei=jriHVJD7DcehgwSj_YDgBA&usg=AFQjCNGrdKF7lLK6s1vZBIBIqjqiMjfKKA&sig2=2FRj_irRFLrVHk2CPe8A4A&bvm=bv.81449611,d.eXY&cad=rja
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 11 December 2014, 19:40:31
Post by: Lurch on Wed, 17 December 2014, 21:52:52
Post by: Sygaldry on Thu, 18 December 2014, 09:45:43
Can anyone help?
I've installed the Atmel Drivers, Extracted DFU Programmer, moved O2D KeyMapper into the folder, and I'm using the correct libusb0.dll but I'm getting an error that says "The application was unable to start correctly (0xc000007b)."
Has anyone run into this problem as well?
I thought it might be something wrong with my Visual C++ Distribution so I tried reinstalling it but I'm still getting the same problem, I just want to get my Viper programmed the way I want it and be done with this for good
:'(
Edit:
Nevermind, I figured out the problem. I accidentally let Windows automatically install the driver and it ended up installing a generic keyboard driver. I uninstalled it and installed the correct and no problems after that!
Some low quality phone pics for you guys!
Keycaps are Originative Classic Beige Otaku with a PBT spacebar and right shift from a G81-1800 I bought new in box to harvest caps and case for. Ivan's R2 Novelty Blue Sun keycap to top it off =]
https://imgur.com/a/I8nCR
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 18 December 2014, 11:32:41
Some low quality phone pics for you guys!
Keycaps are Originative Classic Beige Otaku with a PBT spacebar and right shift from a G81-1800 I bought new in box to harvest caps and case for. Ivan's R2 Novelty Blue Sun keycap to top it off =]
https://imgur.com/a/I8nCR
Class act!
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 20 December 2014, 21:29:19
I've run into some issues with my Viper randomly going into DFU mode, sometimes, when I use basic copy, paste, undo commands. I'm not exactly sure which keys I'm pressing but it generally only happens when I use some sort of Ctrl+Key combination...
Is there a key combination that can send the board into DFU mode without first unplugging and replugging the board in while holding the CapsLock key?
Just a minor annoyance really, but I'm trying to figure out if its something wrong with my board or if I'm just hitting a specific key combination that can push the board to DFU mode.
It doesn't seem like it would be a hardware issue as the board checks out fine in all other aspects. :confused:
Or could this just be the USB connection cutting out for a split second with my finger still on CapsLock (which I've set to Control)?
Edit: Figured out what it was... it was my old mini USB cable going to crap. Swapped in a Pexon cable and the problem went away...
Post by: BlackDragonTribal on Sun, 21 December 2014, 17:23:15
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 21 December 2014, 18:04:54
Is there any chance to get Viper in the future?I think it is possible if there is enough actual interest for it but only Elton can tell you that for sure.
Post by: Lurch on Mon, 22 December 2014, 09:09:57
if there are any extra side inserts, i would love to pick up a pair ;)
Anyone with some side inserts for sale?
Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 22 December 2014, 13:18:59
if there are any extra side inserts, i would love to pick up a pair ;)
Anyone with some side inserts for sale?
I have an extra but the shipping is a killer. Try pming elton, I think he has ordered extras for each duck keyboard.
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 22 December 2014, 14:14:36
if there are any extra side inserts, i would love to pick up a pair ;)
Anyone with some side inserts for sale?
I have extras but I think I accidentally ordered an extra set for an Orion rather than a viper/eagle :))
I don't have my viper on hand so I can't check if that's the case, but it definitely looks slightly bigger than the other two inserts...
Post by: Lurch on Mon, 22 December 2014, 14:18:19
if there are any extra side inserts, i would love to pick up a pair ;)
Anyone with some side inserts for sale?
I have extras but I think I accidentally ordered an extra set for an Orion rather than a viper/eagle :))
I don't have my viper on hand so I can't check if that's the case, but it definitely looks slightly bigger than the other two inserts...
I would pick a pair from you if you have extras and they fit the viper! Would anyone be able to chime in if this would work or not? ;D
Post by: Sygaldry on Mon, 22 December 2014, 14:47:06
if there are any extra side inserts, i would love to pick up a pair ;)
Anyone with some side inserts for sale?
I have extras but I think I accidentally ordered an extra set for an Orion rather than a viper/eagle :))
I don't have my viper on hand so I can't check if that's the case, but it definitely looks slightly bigger than the other two inserts...
I would pick a pair from you if you have extras and they fit the viper! Would anyone be able to chime in if this would work or not? ;D
The Orion, LS1, and LS2/Octagon inserts are all longer than the Viper/Eagle one due to the extra rows.
LS2 is compatible with Octagon, Viper with Eagle, LS1 by itself and Orion by itself. Not sure about the Light Pad though.
Post by: Lurch on Mon, 22 December 2014, 15:05:24
if there are any extra side inserts, i would love to pick up a pair ;)
Anyone with some side inserts for sale?
I have extras but I think I accidentally ordered an extra set for an Orion rather than a viper/eagle :))
I don't have my viper on hand so I can't check if that's the case, but it definitely looks slightly bigger than the other two inserts...
I would pick a pair from you if you have extras and they fit the viper! Would anyone be able to chime in if this would work or not? ;D
The Orion, LS1, and LS2/Octagon inserts are all longer than the Viper/Eagle one due to the extra rows.
LS2 is compatible with Octagon, Viper with Eagle, LS1 by itself and Orion by itself. Not sure about the Light Pad though.
Thanks for the info, bud!
Post by: StylinGreymon on Wed, 24 December 2014, 04:54:17
Text macros seem to be working fine.
Post by: Synjin on Wed, 24 December 2014, 04:59:41
Post by: WinterIsle on Wed, 24 December 2014, 05:04:31
The Orion, LS1, and LS2/Octagon inserts are all longer than the Viper/Eagle one due to the extra rows.
LS2 is compatible with Octagon, Viper with Eagle, LS1 by itself and Orion by itself. Not sure about the Light Pad though.
Acryl Inserts for LightPad is the same as LightSaver v1.
Post by: ithinkimkorean on Tue, 30 December 2014, 03:28:57
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 30 December 2014, 07:44:24
Post by: MrChunky on Tue, 30 December 2014, 15:13:43
How do I get the capslock to stop blinking?
Go to http://duck0113.tistory.com/84 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/84)
Scroll down to instructions section which is quite readable using google translate in chrome.
Go to section 2 part 4 (Called: "Layer the status indicator (LED) display method change" if using google translate)
Follow instructions.
Hope it helps ;)
edit: I think the mode you want is called LLN.
Post by: ithinkimkorean on Tue, 30 December 2014, 16:45:08
How do I get the capslock to stop blinking?
Go to http://duck0113.tistory.com/84 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/84)
Scroll down to instructions section which is quite readable using google translate in chrome.
Go to section 2 part 4 (Called: "Layer the status indicator (LED) display method change" if using google translate)
Follow instructions.
Hope it helps ;)
edit: I think the mode you want is called LLN.
Thanks! Still took me a bit since I couldn't find the c/m key -_-
Post by: dimmu on Wed, 31 December 2014, 08:11:42
Post by: dimmu on Wed, 31 December 2014, 08:14:50
is there a way to load the keymappings that i already saved previously on a hex file on this o2d keymapper. i keep trying to load them but nothing comes up from the list.
nvm. had to rename all the files to have a .hex extension for them to be detected.
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:20:40
62g clears and stock browns.
Ivan's Dolch
Sprit LEDs, multi-coloured and white (not entirely done)
Thanks for running the buy Elton.
(http://i.imgur.com/e6JJVMu.jpg)
Post by: dimmu on Thu, 22 January 2015, 14:22:30
I *finally* finished my Viper.
62g clears and stock browns.
Ivan's Dolch
Sprit LEDs, multi-coloured and white (not entirely done)
Thanks for running the buy Elton.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/e6JJVMu.jpg)
looks awesome. did you switch the last 2 keys in the upper right? i had to use a joker key to replace the "|\" key on mine.
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 22 January 2015, 14:26:22
I *finally* finished my Viper.
62g clears and stock browns.
Ivan's Dolch
Sprit LEDs, multi-coloured and white (not entirely done)
Thanks for running the buy Elton.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/e6JJVMu.jpg)
looks awesome. did you switch the last 2 keys in the upper right? i had to use a joker key to replace the "|\" key on mine.
I have not remapped it yet, I have no PC so I have to wait until my wife gets home. :)
The keys you see are what I plan to use plus the SpaceFN mod.
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 24 January 2015, 14:01:58
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 24 January 2015, 17:46:49
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 25 January 2015, 13:22:43
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 25 January 2015, 13:31:54
Just wondering, but does anyone use SA profile on their eagles or vipers?
Whenever Round 5 from 7bit ships I will. No SA sets currently.
In an act of pure conjecture, I think the angle of the case and that of a non-uniform profile SA set would be quite uncomfortable.
Post by: MVPness on Sun, 25 January 2015, 16:07:06
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 26 January 2015, 14:30:41
So I finally got around to assembling my Eagle today! But when I plug it in and hit any key, I get spammed with unending capital letters and have to restart my computer to get it to stop. Is this a software issue or did I royally screw something up on the PCB? Any help would be much appreciated, this is my first build and I'm not sure what I am doing.
Long-shot question just because I haven't seen it addressed elsewhere:
Are you using the screw-in stabilizers from Ivan's recent buy? I used those on a Viper I built up, and they shorted something out on the PCB and caused issues like you're describing.
If you aren't using those stabilizers, it still could be a short somewhere. Have you double-checked all the solder joints to ensure you haven't bridged anything?
Post by: MVPness on Mon, 26 January 2015, 16:35:49
So I finally got around to assembling my Eagle today! But when I plug it in and hit any key, I get spammed with unending capital letters and have to restart my computer to get it to stop. Is this a software issue or did I royally screw something up on the PCB? Any help would be much appreciated, this is my first build and I'm not sure what I am doing.
Long-shot question just because I haven't seen it addressed elsewhere:
Are you using the screw-in stabilizers from Ivan's recent buy? I used those on a Viper I built up, and they shorted something out on the PCB and caused issues like you're describing.
If you aren't using those stabilizers, it still could be a short somewhere. Have you double-checked all the solder joints to ensure you haven't bridged anything?
I am using screw-in stabs from Ivan's GB. Does that mean the board is now unusable?
Also, what do you mean by "ensure you haven't bridged anything."?
Thanks for your help!
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 26 January 2015, 16:55:18
So I finally got around to assembling my Eagle today! But when I plug it in and hit any key, I get spammed with unending capital letters and have to restart my computer to get it to stop. Is this a software issue or did I royally screw something up on the PCB? Any help would be much appreciated, this is my first build and I'm not sure what I am doing.
Long-shot question just because I haven't seen it addressed elsewhere:
Are you using the screw-in stabilizers from Ivan's recent buy? I used those on a Viper I built up, and they shorted something out on the PCB and caused issues like you're describing.
If you aren't using those stabilizers, it still could be a short somewhere. Have you double-checked all the solder joints to ensure you haven't bridged anything?
I am using screw-in stabs from Ivan's GB. Does that mean the board is now unusable?
Also, what do you mean by "ensure you haven't bridged anything."?
Thanks for your help!
For example make sure you did not connect an LED hole with a switch hole by accidentally adding too much solder that attaches to both contacts.
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 26 January 2015, 16:57:47
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 26 January 2015, 17:19:53
I am using screw-in stabs from Ivan's GB. Does that mean the board is now unusable?
Also, what do you mean by "ensure you haven't bridged anything."?
Thanks for your help!
Ahh, well then - that might just be the problem. :) And nope, the board will be fine! It just won't work when those screws are in the PCB, for whatever reason.
Test to make sure it's the screw-in stabilizers. Take them all out and see if the board functions properly. It should be one of the shift stabilizers that is the culprit, assuming this is the same issue that I saw. If that does fix the issue, you'll need to use regular snap-in PCB-mount stabilizers (or plate-mount, if you're using the plate).
And Fnzzy is correct about what I meant by bridged connections - just make sure that each solder joint isn't reaching from one pad to another.
Post by: MVPness on Mon, 26 January 2015, 17:44:36
I am using screw-in stabs from Ivan's GB. Does that mean the board is now unusable?
Also, what do you mean by "ensure you haven't bridged anything."?
Thanks for your help!
Ahh, well then - that might just be the problem. :) And nope, the board will be fine! It just won't work when those screws are in the PCB, for whatever reason.
Test to make sure it's the screw-in stabilizers. Take them all out and see if the board functions properly. It should be one of the shift stabilizers that is the culprit, assuming this is the same issue that I saw. If that does fix the issue, you'll need to use regular snap-in PCB-mount stabilizers (or plate-mount, if you're using the plate).
And Fnzzy is correct about what I meant by bridged connections - just make sure that each solder joint isn't reaching from one pad to another.
Awesome! Thank you so much for the tip about the stabs. I will unscrew them and see if that works before I start messing with my soldering. I'll report back with my findings!
Post by: ebacho on Mon, 26 January 2015, 18:49:13
I am using screw-in stabs from Ivan's GB. Does that mean the board is now unusable?
Also, what do you mean by "ensure you haven't bridged anything."?
Thanks for your help!
Ahh, well then - that might just be the problem. :) And nope, the board will be fine! It just won't work when those screws are in the PCB, for whatever reason.
Test to make sure it's the screw-in stabilizers. Take them all out and see if the board functions properly. It should be one of the shift stabilizers that is the culprit, assuming this is the same issue that I saw. If that does fix the issue, you'll need to use regular snap-in PCB-mount stabilizers (or plate-mount, if you're using the plate).
And Fnzzy is correct about what I meant by bridged connections - just make sure that each solder joint isn't reaching from one pad to another.
Awesome! Thank you so much for the tip about the stabs. I will unscrew them and see if that works before I start messing with my soldering. I'll report back with my findings!
If the stabs are shorting due to touching the bottom of the case, you can just put some insulating material between it and the pcb. I'm using Ivan's screw in stabs in my Eagle and have none of the problems you describe.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 26 January 2015, 18:58:16
I am using screw-in stabs from Ivan's GB. Does that mean the board is now unusable?
Also, what do you mean by "ensure you haven't bridged anything."?
Thanks for your help!
Ahh, well then - that might just be the problem. :) And nope, the board will be fine! It just won't work when those screws are in the PCB, for whatever reason.
Test to make sure it's the screw-in stabilizers. Take them all out and see if the board functions properly. It should be one of the shift stabilizers that is the culprit, assuming this is the same issue that I saw. If that does fix the issue, you'll need to use regular snap-in PCB-mount stabilizers (or plate-mount, if you're using the plate).
And Fnzzy is correct about what I meant by bridged connections - just make sure that each solder joint isn't reaching from one pad to another.
Awesome! Thank you so much for the tip about the stabs. I will unscrew them and see if that works before I start messing with my soldering. I'll report back with my findings!
If the stabs are shorting due to touching the bottom of the case, you can just put some insulating material between it and the pcb. I'm using Ivan's screw in stabs in my Eagle and have none of the problems you describe.
When I had the problem, I experienced it before even putting it back in the case.
This may very well not be the root cause here, but it's an easy enough thing to check that I figured I'd point it out. :thumb:
Post by: SavvyBird on Mon, 26 January 2015, 19:06:39
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 29 January 2015, 11:32:12
I really don't like the clears I used. I'm going to have to swap them for 62g blacks.
But SpaceFN is a winner!
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 01 February 2015, 08:05:38
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 01 February 2015, 08:57:13
How would you guys go about replacing the side LEDs? I never soldered something that small and I don't know what to use. I am afraid that I could melt the LED housing if I do hot air soldering but at the same time it feels like it is too small for regular soldering. :/ Any tips and tricks?
I did not attempt, based on the same concerns you share.
My iron is not good enough to attempt this swap.
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sun, 01 February 2015, 12:50:58
How would you guys go about replacing the side LEDs? I never soldered something that small and I don't know what to use. I am afraid that I could melt the LED housing if I do hot air soldering but at the same time it feels like it is too small for regular soldering. :/ Any tips and tricks?
I bought some blue 1210 SMD Leds so that I can replace mine. I think the hard part will be removing the existing LEDs. Soldering on the new ones should be pretty painless as long as you're careful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JM4oCpWnjU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JM4oCpWnjU)
Post by: Ouro on Sun, 01 February 2015, 14:15:27
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 03:46:02
Anyone looking to sell their Viper or Eagle?What a pity! No one :( I am looking for too like you.
Post by: Synjin on Mon, 02 February 2015, 13:14:27
Anyone looking to sell their Viper or Eagle?I don't think anyone here is willing to sell it for your offer of $275 shipped considering it costs about that much to get it shipped to the participant of the GB. I would recommend the classifieds as that would be the first place a user would be posting or browsing through if they are looking to unload a viper/eagle.
Here is an approximate average of how much users paid for their order total:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDdEWHFub0liRWZxemZIR0ZuNmFBLVE&single=true&gid=1&output=html
Post by: radio_killah on Mon, 02 February 2015, 14:44:50
Anyone looking to sell their Viper or Eagle?I don't think anyone here is willing to sell it for your offer of $275 shipped considering it costs about that much to get it shipped to the participant of the GB. I would recommend the classifieds as that would be the first place a user would be posting or browsing through if they are looking to unload a viper/eagle.
Here is an approximate average of how much users paid for their order total:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Akw9rY8oi1o6dDdEWHFub0liRWZxemZIR0ZuNmFBLVE&single=true&gid=1&output=html
Yeah, no one is going to sell theirs at cost. I got my set for $300 from a local GH'er and that was considered really lucky. Mine set is still un-assembled too and I wouldn't even start to think about selling it until someone offered me like $500 haha. VIPERS are AWESOME!!
Post by: Synjin on Mon, 02 February 2015, 14:46:39
Post by: Ouro on Mon, 02 February 2015, 15:15:38
It's all good though, decided to buy a nerd pcb+ acrylic housing.
Post by: geogga on Mon, 02 February 2015, 17:30:39
Post by: Vintage on Mon, 02 February 2015, 17:36:59
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 02 February 2015, 19:59:48
Is there any large differences between a duck Poker and a Eagle?
I think the Eagle housing has a different angle and more lighting features.
Post by: geogga on Mon, 02 February 2015, 21:33:36
Is there any large differences between a duck Poker and a Eagle?
I think the Eagle housing has a different angle and more lighting features.
Ahh thank you. Overall when fully built they're about the same price right? I'm guessing probably maybe $350 or a bit more assembled etc. I think both cases are equal in quality, with the eagle case having side LEDs.
Post by: Vintage on Mon, 02 February 2015, 21:36:14
EDIT: I guess you meant viper. Yeah the only difference between the two is the layout AFAIK. Just a matter of which you prefer.
Post by: geogga on Mon, 02 February 2015, 21:52:05
Eagle is also re-programmable and allows you to customize the board anyway you want. And the metal case ofc.
EDIT: I guess you meant viper. Yeah the only difference between the two is the layout AFAIK. Just a matter of which you prefer.
Ehh I meant duck poker lol.
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7333/rearduck.jpg)
Although the differences seem to be pretty much minimal. Externally pretty much only the case. Internally, I don't know. Id need to ask duck or just oogle some info.
Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 02 February 2015, 21:59:20
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 22:23:11
Post by: geogga on Tue, 03 February 2015, 07:31:15
I can pay 300$ + shipping for new Silver kit.
Does that include it fully assembled and everything?
the two cases are worlds apart designwise, i doubt you can call that 'minimal differences'
I said minimally referring to the external differences numerically. I know the cases are different of course.
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 03 February 2015, 07:49:28
I can pay 300$ + shipping for new Silver kit.
Does that include it fully assembled and everything?the two cases are worlds apart designwise, i doubt you can call that 'minimal differences'
I said minimally referring to the external differences numerically. I know the cases are different of course.
Of course not. Only for unassembly kit (case; plate & PCB). Full assembled keyboard around 400$ or more.
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 22 February 2015, 11:57:15
I like it so much better.
Post by: b7ad on Sun, 22 February 2015, 12:20:08
62g gold springs, linear grey switches, pink stickers, clear switch tops, switches lubed with GH thin mix and springs with krytox 104.
(http://i.imgur.com/zCsXoY9.jpg)
Margo's full album: http://imgur.com/a/A52q5
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 22 February 2015, 12:30:12
Thought I'd cross post this here from Margo's thread - my Duck Viper built my Margo will be in my hands this week, I am excited!
62g gold springs, linear grey switches, pink stickers, clear switch tops, switches lubed with GH thin mix and springs with krytox 104.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zCsXoY9.jpg)
Margo's full album: http://imgur.com/a/A52q5
Looks amazing, great work by Margo!
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sun, 22 February 2015, 13:48:42
Thought I'd cross post this here from Margo's thread - my Duck Viper built my Margo will be in my hands this week, I am excited!
62g gold springs, linear grey switches, pink stickers, clear switch tops, switches lubed with GH thin mix and springs with krytox 104.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zCsXoY9.jpg)
Margo's full album: http://imgur.com/a/A52q5
That's a slick looking Viper, b7ad! Linear greys will be niiiiiiiiiiiiice. :)
Margo does excellent work.
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 08 March 2015, 07:54:27
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 08 March 2015, 10:21:11
Does someone know where can I download the dfu prog usb 1.2.2?
I use: https://github.com/dfu-programmer/dfu-programmer
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 08 March 2015, 10:23:58
(http://i.imgur.com/J8Qs048.jpg)
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 08 March 2015, 11:27:32
Does someone know where can I download the dfu prog usb 1.2.2?
I use: https://github.com/dfu-programmer/dfu-programmer
Are you using mac or windows? If you don't mind can you give a brief instruction on programming this duck viper? Im kinda new to 02D software.
Btw, here's my newly assembled Duck Viper.
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 08 March 2015, 16:04:39
Does someone know where can I download the dfu prog usb 1.2.2?
I use: https://github.com/dfu-programmer/dfu-programmer
Are you using mac or windows? If you don't mind can you give a brief instruction on programming this duck viper? Im kinda new to 02D software.
Btw, here's my newly assembled Duck Viper.
Looks nice!
I use osx normally, but set up my wife's Windows machine to enable programming the board as well.
See here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65036.msg1656094#msg1656094
Post by: monotagary on Sun, 08 March 2015, 16:14:50
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 08 March 2015, 16:19:51
Anyone looking to sell an unassembled Viper kit? ;D
Good luck :)
(sorry, not meant to be rude, it may be a tough task to find one)
Post by: monotagary on Sun, 08 March 2015, 16:30:11
Anyone looking to sell an unassembled Viper kit? ;D
Good luck :)
(sorry, not meant to be rude, it may be a tough task to find one)
Ah, don't worry! If no one has one to sell then I can just wait for round 2.
Post by: DrySumi on Sun, 08 March 2015, 21:13:54
any chances of this group buy coming up again? i wan dat viper pussi
Post by: Sygaldry on Sun, 08 March 2015, 21:19:28
Finding these really is tough.Anyone looking to sell an unassembled Viper kit? ;D
Good luck :)
(sorry, not meant to be rude, it may be a tough task to find one)
I spent a good three months looking for one before I managed to buy one. :-X
Post by: monotagary on Sun, 08 March 2015, 21:39:32
**** i missed
any chances of this group buy coming up again? i wan dat viper pussi
I've heard that there is going to be another buy after Orion v2
Post by: DrySumi on Sun, 08 March 2015, 21:58:49
**** i missed
any chances of this group buy coming up again? i wan dat viper pussi
I've heard that there is going to be another buy after Orion v2
hope the price goes down this time around cuz itll be a while before i can afford a $200 keyboard
Post by: monotagary on Sun, 08 March 2015, 22:06:59
**** i missed
any chances of this group buy coming up again? i wan dat viper pussi
I've heard that there is going to be another buy after Orion v2
hope the price goes down this time around cuz itll be a while before i can afford a $200 keyboard
Well, doubt the price will drop but it will be a while before this is out so you have time to save.
Post by: demik on Sun, 08 March 2015, 22:07:07
**** i missed
any chances of this group buy coming up again? i wan dat viper pussi
I've heard that there is going to be another buy after Orion v2
hope the price goes down this time around cuz itll be a while before i can afford a $200 keyboard
why exactly would the price go down?
Post by: DrySumi on Sun, 08 March 2015, 22:14:56
**** i missed
any chances of this group buy coming up again? i wan dat viper pussi
I've heard that there is going to be another buy after Orion v2
hope the price goes down this time around cuz itll be a while before i can afford a $200 keyboard
why exactly would the price go down?
bruh i just said hope
i also hope next group is a little delayed so i can get sum muney before it happens
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 08 March 2015, 22:20:47
Does someone know where can I download the dfu prog usb 1.2.2?
I use: https://github.com/dfu-programmer/dfu-programmer
Are you using mac or windows? If you don't mind can you give a brief instruction on programming this duck viper? Im kinda new to 02D software.
Btw, here's my newly assembled Duck Viper.
Looks nice!
I use osx normally, but set up my wife's Windows machine to enable programming the board as well.
See here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65036.msg1656094#msg1656094
Thanks. Im having a problem with the 02d software. It displays the arrow keys as '?'. Is that normal? Also, if you don't mind sharing your hex file, that would help a lot for the mean time :). I'm assuming you are using same layout as the hhkb right?
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 08 March 2015, 22:23:22
Does someone know where can I download the dfu prog usb 1.2.2?
I use: https://github.com/dfu-programmer/dfu-programmer
Are you using mac or windows? If you don't mind can you give a brief instruction on programming this duck viper? Im kinda new to 02D software.
Btw, here's my newly assembled Duck Viper.
Looks nice!
I use osx normally, but set up my wife's Windows machine to enable programming the board as well.
See here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65036.msg1656094#msg1656094
Thanks. Im having a problem with the 02d software. It displays the arrow keys as '?'. Is that normal? Also, if you don't mind sharing your hex file, that would help a lot for the mean time :). I'm assuming you are using same layout as the hhkb right?
PM your email address and I'll send it. It's standard hhkb.
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 08 March 2015, 22:34:47
PM your email address and I'll send it. It's standard hhkb.
PM sent. thanks
Post by: slickmamba on Mon, 09 March 2015, 01:16:06
Post by: dimmu on Mon, 09 March 2015, 15:06:12
Does someone know where can I download the dfu prog usb 1.2.2?
I use: https://github.com/dfu-programmer/dfu-programmer
Are you using mac or windows? If you don't mind can you give a brief instruction on programming this duck viper? Im kinda new to 02D software.
Btw, here's my newly assembled Duck Viper.
Looks nice!
I use osx normally, but set up my wife's Windows machine to enable programming the board as well.
See here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65036.msg1656094#msg1656094
Thanks. Im having a problem with the 02d software. It displays the arrow keys as '?'. Is that normal? Also, if you don't mind sharing your hex file, that would help a lot for the mean time :). I'm assuming you are using same layout as the hhkb right?
you have to set the app locale for o2d to korean language. go to control panel> region and languages and set the language for non unicode programs to korean.
Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 09 March 2015, 23:54:18
you have to set the app locale for o2d to korean language. go to control panel> region and languages and set the language for non unicode programs to korean.
Yeah thanks, figured that out after searching but I had to setup a VM since I'm on OSx. All Works fine now. :)
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Wed, 11 March 2015, 23:20:48
Post by: monotagary on Thu, 12 March 2015, 10:19:02
anyone here willing to sell an extra viper kit they have unassembled? =O
Haha, I'm hoping for the same thing. Looks like not a lot of people are willing to part with theirs though. We might be better off waiting for Duck to do a V2. :-[
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:19:09
anyone here willing to sell an extra viper kit they have unassembled? =O
Haha, I'm hoping for the same thing. Looks like not a lot of people are willing to part with theirs though. We might be better off waiting for Duck to do a V2. :-[
Duck 'll do V2? Where is it from? I can believe?
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:26:53
anyone here willing to sell an extra viper kit they have unassembled? =O
Haha, I'm hoping for the same thing. Looks like not a lot of people are willing to part with theirs though. We might be better off waiting for Duck to do a V2. :-[
Duck 'll do V2? Where is it from? I can believe?
Nothing is announced, you'll have to visit his site - http://duck0113.tistory.com/
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 11:30:42
anyone here willing to sell an extra viper kit they have unassembled? =O
Haha, I'm hoping for the same thing. Looks like not a lot of people are willing to part with theirs though. We might be better off waiting for Duck to do a V2. :-[
Duck 'll do V2? Where is it from? I can believe?
Nothing is announced, you'll have to visit his site - http://duck0113.tistory.com/
Yes. He seems do Lightsaver & Orion in the future. Hope he continue do Viper.
Post by: archer on Tue, 17 March 2015, 19:46:54
Found another 60% that fits what I was looking for :D
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Wed, 18 March 2015, 04:01:30
anyone here willing to sell an extra viper kit they have unassembled? =O
Haha, I'm hoping for the same thing. Looks like not a lot of people are willing to part with theirs though. We might be better off waiting for Duck to do a V2. :-[
hmmm lol I guess so man xD
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 28 March 2015, 12:42:00
Post by: tjweir on Sat, 28 March 2015, 19:40:49
Any idea why my left control (which is on capslock, HHKB layout) continually blinks?
It flashes to indicate the layer you're on.
(I think)
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 28 March 2015, 20:32:40
Any idea why my left control (which is on capslock, HHKB layout) continually blinks?
It flashes to indicate the layer you're on.
(I think)
Any idea how to turn it off?
Post by: ithinkimkorean on Sat, 28 March 2015, 21:48:37
How do I get the capslock to stop blinking?
Go to http://duck0113.tistory.com/84 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/84)
Scroll down to instructions section which is quite readable using google translate in chrome.
Go to section 2 part 4 (Called: "Layer the status indicator (LED) display method change" if using google translate)
Follow instructions.
Hope it helps ;)
edit: I think the mode you want is called LLN.
Thanks! Still took me a bit since I couldn't find the c/m key -_-
^ I had same thing
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 28 March 2015, 23:41:07
I mapped the c/m key to my layout but I can't figure which setting turns it off :(How do I get the capslock to stop blinking?
Go to http://duck0113.tistory.com/84 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/84)
Scroll down to instructions section which is quite readable using google translate in chrome.
Go to section 2 part 4 (Called: "Layer the status indicator (LED) display method change" if using google translate)
Follow instructions.
Hope it helps ;)
edit: I think the mode you want is called LLN.
Thanks! Still took me a bit since I couldn't find the c/m key -_-
^ I had same thing
edit: I am an idiot. You have to type out the command.
Post by: tjweir on Sun, 29 March 2015, 13:29:53
https://gist.github.com/tjweir/c7ed2c2871f9acb05bc6
Post by: dothm on Mon, 13 April 2015, 04:40:05
Post by: kacase on Mon, 13 April 2015, 04:42:33
Whens the next group buy?
Elton is very busy at the moment with the Orion V2 GB and afterwards probably another Lightsaver round. So I'd guess even if there is enough demand the group buy still wont start before Q4 2015
Post by: cooldiscretion on Mon, 13 April 2015, 10:55:02
Whens the next group buy?
Elton is very busy at the moment with the Orion V2 GB and afterwards probably another Lightsaver round. So I'd guess even if there is enough demand the group buy still wont start before Q4 2015
An even better question is when should we expect that V2 Viper/Eagle to be released. :p
Post by: evolveS on Mon, 13 April 2015, 11:01:40
An even better question is when should we expect that V2 Viper/Eagle to be released. :pWhens the next group buy?
Elton is very busy at the moment with the Orion V2 GB and afterwards probably another Lightsaver round. So I'd guess even if there is enough demand the group buy still wont start before Q4 2015
Hopefully with the Orion V2 style acrylic bottom!
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 13 April 2015, 11:35:16
The main thing that turned me off from the original Viper GB is the keyboard angle.An even better question is when should we expect that V2 Viper/Eagle to be released.Whens the next group buy?
Elton is very busy at the moment with the Orion V2 GB and afterwards probably another Lightsaver round. So I'd guess even if there is enough demand the group buy still wont start before Q4 2015
Hopefully with the Orion V2 style acrylic bottom!
I'd hope a new version can have the acrylic part to have a reduced typing angle.
Post by: Khers on Mon, 13 April 2015, 12:28:48
The main thing that turned me off from the original Viper GB is the keyboard angle.An even better question is when should we expect that V2 Viper/Eagle to be released.Whens the next group buy?
Elton is very busy at the moment with the Orion V2 GB and afterwards probably another Lightsaver round. So I'd guess even if there is enough demand the group buy still wont start before Q4 2015
Hopefully with the Orion V2 style acrylic bottom!
I'd hope a new version can have the acrylic part to have a reduced typing angle.
I ultimately decided to stay out of the Orion V2 GB in anticipation of either a rerun or a V2 of the Viper (ideally with a reduced angle). Given the timeframe that was mentioned here, I might have second thoughts on that decision. Otoh, my wallet will be happier for it ;).
Post by: Yslen on Thu, 16 April 2015, 08:06:16
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 16 April 2015, 08:10:02
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 16 April 2015, 08:17:39
Post by: ideus on Thu, 16 April 2015, 08:23:35
Finger Crossed for an ISO compatible PCB for the ViperV2.
I think you can do that with a GON pcb.
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 16 April 2015, 08:28:03
Interesting idea never though of it.Finger Crossed for an ISO compatible PCB for the ViperV2.
I think you can do that with a GON pcb.
Would have to look at the construction of the viper case to see if it fits.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 16 April 2015, 08:35:42
Interesting idea never though of it.Finger Crossed for an ISO compatible PCB for the ViperV2.
I think you can do that with a GON pcb.
Would have to look at the construction of the viper case to see if it fits.
It doesn't, at least the Nerd60 does not; because, it does not have the cuts at its corners; however, you could get one of the Sprit's cases that can hold a rectangular PCB but has overlapped covers for the corners; by the way, Sprit's PCB also support the HHKB layout and ISO, but again, with no cut outs.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 16 April 2015, 09:43:56
The main thing that turned me off from the original Viper GB is the keyboard angle.An even better question is when should we expect that V2 Viper/Eagle to be released.Whens the next group buy?
Elton is very busy at the moment with the Orion V2 GB and afterwards probably another Lightsaver round. So I'd guess even if there is enough demand the group buy still wont start before Q4 2015
Hopefully with the Orion V2 style acrylic bottom!
I'd hope a new version can have the acrylic part to have a reduced typing angle.
+2 for Viper with 7° acrylic bottom! :thumb:
Edit: Not sure if it would require a redesign of the case as it seems to be a single piece design atm.
On the other hand a two piece case could also include a proper plate mount. (with the plate mounted to the case, instead of the pcb mounted to the case and the plate floating free on the switches poker style)
To me a real plate mount seems like a much cleaner solution, and I always feel like the free floating poker plates tend to have a bell like effect. (So I honestly don't think of poker as plate mount, to me poker is a pcb mount + plate support pretty much, considering you could even assemble without plate)
Post by: fatcupcakes on Thu, 23 April 2015, 02:31:37
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 23 April 2015, 06:34:22
I just got a built version of the eagle with the standard layout like the poker. Is there a function layer for this?
Depends on how it was programmed. If you visit duck0113.tistory.com and grab the O2D mapper, you'll be able to write whatever layout you want.
If you run into problems, post back here and we'll help.
Post by: awhitedev on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:15:51
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 03 May 2015, 18:31:32
Post by: Vintage on Sun, 03 May 2015, 18:57:19
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 03 May 2015, 19:00:57
11 degreesThanks
Post by: Sed8op8 on Mon, 04 May 2015, 05:43:19
Unfortunately, I joined GH after this group buy was already well on its way. I see there are talks of a Viper V2... that would be very exciting! I hope we see it this year sometime! :cool:agreed.... I had some car trouble and I couldn't do Orion v2 so I really hope there is another Duck GB that I like as I want to build my own Duck this year!
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sat, 09 May 2015, 23:58:10
I followed the instructions, installed the Atmel driver, downloaded flip and got Flip to recognize the keyboard.
My only problem is that I can't create the hex files through the custom keymapper.
When I make my layout and click save I get a constant invalid filepath error.
Post by: jonathanyu on Sun, 10 May 2015, 00:01:32
For those with experience in the duck Viper. How do I reprogram the keyboard?
I followed the instructions, installed the Atmel driver, downloaded flip and got Flip to recognize the keyboard.
My only problem is that I can't create the hex files through the custom keymapper.
When I make my layout and click save I get a constant invalid filepath error.
Not sure is this the same problem with my butterfly in the past. But try to rename the file first before saving. The default file name doesn't work for my butterfly, so this may be the same problem.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sun, 10 May 2015, 00:24:42
For those with experience in the duck Viper. How do I reprogram the keyboard?
I followed the instructions, installed the Atmel driver, downloaded flip and got Flip to recognize the keyboard.
My only problem is that I can't create the hex files through the custom keymapper.
When I make my layout and click save I get a constant invalid filepath error.
Not sure is this the same problem with my butterfly in the past. But try to rename the file first before saving. The default file name doesn't work for my butterfly, so this may be the same problem.
nop, even if I try saving my layout using something else it doesn't work
NVM I figured it out =S
Got my duck viper up and running
Post by: appleonama on Mon, 18 May 2015, 23:39:07
I had to desolder each switch to add sip sockets and fix the stabs since they were a bit wonky. The leds are currently green and I will be changing them once I receive the new leds in the mail.
Now my question is how do I customize the layout? I don't even know where the FN key is. Also anyone know where to get some new SMD leds I don't like the red ones that are already soldered to the keyboard.
The switches are 62g clears and space bar is a black gateron.
Post by: deci on Tue, 19 May 2015, 16:03:35
I keep hoping someone will add TMK support for it but no luck.
I'm wondering if there are any other PCB's that might fit this case (like Gon 60%).
Something that is already TMK supported.
That or get un lazy and work on the TMK support my self. (I have no idea how to figure out the matrix though)
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 19 May 2015, 17:38:24
I love everything about this board except the key mapping software.
I keep hoping someone will add TMK support for it but no luck.
I'm wondering if there are any other PCB's that might fit this case (like Gon 60%).
Something that is already TMK supported.
That or get un lazy and work on the TMK support my self. (I have no idea how to figure out the matrix though)
I feel the same way.
I mapped the matrix using my multimeter and I have a fork of tmk building but I get nothing from the board.
I haven't had time to finish.
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 19 May 2015, 20:56:22
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 19 May 2015, 21:07:31
Can someone help me out with the 02D software. I can't figure this thing out. The arrow keys are just question marks and the function layer is not working as programmed.
I answered the same thing in the Octagon thread, try this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65036.msg1710404#msg1710404
Post by: appleonama on Wed, 10 June 2015, 13:33:55
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/321/713/002/66e5cdb3978c93c26adf6a820e47a759.jpg)
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&search_target=nick_name&search_keyword=duck0113&document_srl=2713321
Post by: aznairjordan on Wed, 10 June 2015, 13:39:17
viper v2Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/321/713/002/66e5cdb3978c93c26adf6a820e47a759.jpg)
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&search_target=nick_name&search_keyword=duck0113&document_srl=2713321
I'm trying to get this so bad..
Post by: cooldiscretion on Wed, 10 June 2015, 15:47:05
viper v2Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/321/713/002/66e5cdb3978c93c26adf6a820e47a759.jpg)
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&search_target=nick_name&search_keyword=duck0113&document_srl=2713321
That recess must before the huge cojones this board will have. My fingers are crossed that it will be alps compatible.
Post by: Vintage on Wed, 10 June 2015, 16:23:54
Post by: trizkut on Wed, 10 June 2015, 16:30:04
What is the purpose of the cutout on the bottom?
Trackpoint module I think.
Post by: Vintage on Wed, 10 June 2015, 16:31:29
Post by: Sed8op8 on Wed, 10 June 2015, 16:47:50
that's different I missed the first viper I really want one of these if they ever go liveWhat is the purpose of the cutout on the bottom?
Trackpoint module I think.
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 03 July 2015, 16:13:58
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 03 July 2015, 16:16:23
This is a long shot since this ended a long time ago, but if anyone has a kit they haven't built yet/don't want I am more than happy to buy it off of you :) and sorry for necroGood luck! ;)
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 03 July 2015, 16:18:38
Yeah, I have always had it in my head that I would like one, and then after getting my octagon I realized how awesome duck's boards wereThis is a long shot since this ended a long time ago, but if anyone has a kit they haven't built yet/don't want I am more than happy to buy it off of you :) and sorry for necroGood luck! ;)
Post by: ViệtNV on Fri, 03 July 2015, 23:41:12
Post by: koyo on Thu, 16 July 2015, 16:33:03
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 16 July 2015, 18:09:05
I just got this board and it's awesome ;D
Damn right it is.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Fri, 17 July 2015, 06:04:33
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 17 July 2015, 07:57:41
Would also like to know if there will be ALPS plates offered.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 17 July 2015, 08:20:54
Post by: ideus on Fri, 17 July 2015, 09:32:40
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 17 July 2015, 10:01:15
What is the programming system for the viper?O2D programmer from Duck. You need to download dfu-programmer and put it in the same folder as O2D
Post by: ideus on Fri, 17 July 2015, 15:51:12
What is the programming system for the viper?O2D programmer from Duck. You need to download dfu-programmer and put it in the same folder as O2D
Thank you very much for the reference. By the way, your banner for the Beige set is awesome!
Post by: Sed8op8 on Sun, 02 August 2015, 11:37:49
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 07:16:51
What is the programming system for the viper?O2D programmer from Duck. You need to download dfu-programmer and put it in the same folder as O2D
Where is dfu-programmer?
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 04 August 2015, 07:18:40
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dfu-programmer/files/dfu-programmer/0.7.0/What is the programming system for the viper?O2D programmer from Duck. You need to download dfu-programmer and put it in the same folder as O2D
Where is dfu-programmer?
I have a word file that will help you, let me find it.
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 04 August 2015, 07:20:11
Post by: Lurch on Tue, 04 August 2015, 07:24:09
Does anyone know where I can find a set of acrylic inserts for the viper. Just got one and would love to buy some if someone had extras ! Thanks all
PM elton, he should be able to help you.
And thanks for the reminder; I need to do the same. :thumb:
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 07:29:13
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:55:20
(http://i.imgur.com/E7isxqt.jpg)
Please help me. Laptop can't detect viper :(
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:59:41
There is issue in while I flash firmware.Did you hold FLIP button down?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/E7isxqt.jpg)
Please help me. Laptop can't detect viper :(
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 23:02:11
Yes, I did.There is issue in while I flash firmware.Did you hold FLIP button down?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/E7isxqt.jpg)
Please help me. Laptop can't detect viper :(
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 04 August 2015, 23:17:16
What happened when you plugged it in while holding the FLIP down?Yes, I did.There is issue in while I flash firmware.Did you hold FLIP button down?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/E7isxqt.jpg)
Please help me. Laptop can't detect viper :(
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 23:25:12
What happened when you plugged it in while holding the FLIP down?Yes, I did.There is issue in while I flash firmware.Did you hold FLIP button down?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/E7isxqt.jpg)
Please help me. Laptop can't detect viper :(
Nothings is happen. Leds is not light, there is no sign :(
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 04 August 2015, 23:37:25
This is supposed to happen when FLIP key is held down then plugged in. What does it say in terms of Drivers installing? When you plug it in w/ FLIP held down, go to device manager and look for Atmel tab, if it isn't there,look for unknown devices.What happened when you plugged it in while holding the FLIP down?Yes, I did.There is issue in while I flash firmware.Did you hold FLIP button down?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/E7isxqt.jpg)
Please help me. Laptop can't detect viper :(
Nothings is happen. Leds is not light, there is no sign :(
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 00:05:52
This is supposed to happen when FLIP key is held down then plugged in. What does it say in terms of Drivers installing? When you plug it in w/ FLIP held down, go to device manager and look for Atmel tab, if it isn't there,look for unknown devices.What happened when you plugged it in while holding the FLIP down?Yes, I did.There is issue in while I flash firmware.Did you hold FLIP button down?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/E7isxqt.jpg)
Please help me. Laptop can't detect viper :(
Nothings is happen. Leds is not light, there is no sign :(
Right, everything happen like you said.
When I hold FLIP key & plug in, there is messenger dectecting unsucessful driver.
Then I open device manger to manual install driver, everything is good except I can't flash firmware.
...
:(
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:02:21
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:11:55
I fixed this issue by flip program. Anyway, thanks for your support, sethk_ :thumb:Yep, glad you could fix it. I am better at KMAC program than Duck's program :(
Post by: phatdood9 on Fri, 07 August 2015, 23:46:15
Is it possible to get a new pcb? Any tips on fixing it?
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 07 August 2015, 23:56:33
I think I broke my pcb somehow resoldering the switches to gateron blues :-( on my duck viper. Every key works except the 7 key.take a picture, I might be able to tell you how depending on the damage
Is it possible to get a new pcb? Any tips on fixing it?
Post by: phatdood9 on Sat, 08 August 2015, 12:10:28
I think I broke my pcb somehow resoldering the switches to gateron blues :-( on my duck viper. Every key works except the 7 key.take a picture, I might be able to tell you how depending on the damage
Is it possible to get a new pcb? Any tips on fixing it?
(http://i.imgur.com/n8GlUK8.jpg)
imgur link : http://imgur.com/n8GlUK8
Firmware confirmed to be working for a while when I was using ergo clears :-( I can think of two things I did wrong:
- I might have pulled too hard when removing the switch
- I accidentally sprayed a some melted solder from my desoldering iron on the board when trying to clear it out
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 08 August 2015, 12:12:45
could you get a closer pic?I think I broke my pcb somehow resoldering the switches to gateron blues :-( on my duck viper. Every key works except the 7 key.take a picture, I might be able to tell you how depending on the damage
Is it possible to get a new pcb? Any tips on fixing it?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/n8GlUK8.jpg)
Post by: phatdood9 on Sat, 08 August 2015, 12:27:46
http://i.imgur.com/n8GlUK8.jpg
or closer?
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 08 August 2015, 12:29:20
direct link:A clear photo closer would be nice, so I can see the joints
http://i.imgur.com/n8GlUK8.jpg
or closer?
Post by: phatdood9 on Sat, 08 August 2015, 12:39:43
http://i.imgur.com/1IrcwUZ.jpg
The 7 key is to the left of the screw hole
edit: also tried a few different switches in the slot, so it shouldn't be an issue with teh switch itself
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 08 August 2015, 13:28:48
Here ya go:plug it in, take a pair of tweezers, and try to jump the connection, like you would for anything else. The only thing I could guess is that the switch is bad.
http://i.imgur.com/1IrcwUZ.jpg
The 7 key is to the left of the screw hole
edit: also tried a few different switches in the slot, so it shouldn't be an issue with teh switch itself
Post by: phatdood9 on Sat, 08 August 2015, 13:55:50
Here ya go:plug it in, take a pair of tweezers, and try to jump the connection, like you would for anything else. The only thing I could guess is that the switch is bad.
http://i.imgur.com/1IrcwUZ.jpg
The 7 key is to the left of the screw hole
edit: also tried a few different switches in the slot, so it shouldn't be an issue with teh switch itself
tried to jump it with a spare wire, every key registers except the 7 :-[
whose my best bet in the USA to possibly fix it? :'(
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 08 August 2015, 13:58:42
I do soldering services, but not repairs :( what do you think you might have done? is there something wrong with the diode?Here ya go:plug it in, take a pair of tweezers, and try to jump the connection, like you would for anything else. The only thing I could guess is that the switch is bad.
http://i.imgur.com/1IrcwUZ.jpg
The 7 key is to the left of the screw hole
edit: also tried a few different switches in the slot, so it shouldn't be an issue with teh switch itself
tried to jump it with a spare wire, every key registers except the 7 :-[
whose my best bet in the USA to possibly fix it? :'(
Post by: phatdood9 on Sat, 08 August 2015, 16:10:16
I do soldering services, but not repairs :( what do you think you might have done? is there something wrong with the diode?Here ya go:plug it in, take a pair of tweezers, and try to jump the connection, like you would for anything else. The only thing I could guess is that the switch is bad.
http://i.imgur.com/1IrcwUZ.jpg
The 7 key is to the left of the screw hole
edit: also tried a few different switches in the slot, so it shouldn't be an issue with teh switch itself
tried to jump it with a spare wire, every key registers except the 7 :-[
whose my best bet in the USA to possibly fix it? :'(
no idea :'( its probably something I did when desoldering the old switches. The only thing I can think of is that I ripped out the internal part of the pad by not removing all of the solder
Post by: E3E on Sat, 08 August 2015, 18:24:53
Anyway, I went through having to fix SMD RGB LEDs that went out, replacing diodes, and repairing pads and traces. It was hell, but I was determined not to let my baby, my first korean custom, be a $400 brick. I kept at it and ended up fixing it perfectly.
I can say I'm 90% sure I can fix your PCB if you'd trust me to work on it. If not, that's alright! I know I'm not very well known around here and my reputation doesn't precede me, haha. The PCBs are dual-layered as far as I know and even if a through hole or pad is completely ripped, I have ways of restoring the connection. That's what it seems it might be in your case.
I do soldering services, but not repairs :( what do you think you might have done? is there something wrong with the diode?Here ya go:plug it in, take a pair of tweezers, and try to jump the connection, like you would for anything else. The only thing I could guess is that the switch is bad.
http://i.imgur.com/1IrcwUZ.jpg
The 7 key is to the left of the screw hole
edit: also tried a few different switches in the slot, so it shouldn't be an issue with teh switch itself
tried to jump it with a spare wire, every key registers except the 7 :-[
whose my best bet in the USA to possibly fix it? :'(
no idea :'( its probably something I did when desoldering the old switches. The only thing I can think of is that I ripped out the internal part of the pad by not removing all of the solder
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 08 August 2015, 18:26:13
Post by: E3E on Sat, 08 August 2015, 18:33:47
Or just wait for leekus 75% pcb
Say what? No, my Octagon PCB is fine, though picking up a spare 75% Leeku was something I had in mind if I wanted to swap layouts. I've heard word of a carbon fiber 75% plate down the line, so that's what I'd get it for. Screw desoldering the Octagon again.
My previous post was talking about repairing phatdood9's Viper PCB. :P
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 08 August 2015, 19:23:50
That was a suggestion to phatdoodOr just wait for leekus 75% pcb
Say what? No, my Octagon PCB is fine, though picking up a spare 75% Leeku was something I had in mind if I wanted to swap layouts. I've heard word of a carbon fiber 75% plate down the line, so that's what I'd get it for. Screw desoldering the Octagon again.
My previous post was talking about repairing phatdood9's Viper PCB. :P
Post by: E3E on Sat, 08 August 2015, 19:30:08
That was a suggestion to phatdood
Oh, I see! It seemed relevant to me given the context and what not. Not a bad idea, but also not a viper. D: I'm sure fixing it is top priority.
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 08 August 2015, 20:00:13
Post by: phatdood9 on Sat, 08 August 2015, 21:51:23
BTW, is it possible to cut any board (leeku?) so it fits the viper case?
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 08 August 2015, 22:03:59
If you think you can do it, I'd be glad to send it over.no. if you can't get it working, maybe email duck and see if you could buy one off of him.
BTW, is it possible to cut any board (leeku?) so it fits the viper case?
Post by: E3E on Sun, 09 August 2015, 00:04:21
If you think you can do it, I'd be glad to send it over.
BTW, is it possible to cut any board (leeku?) so it fits the viper case?
Sure thing, send me a PM if you'd like. I'm a charitable sort of person so I'm not really looking to make money off of helping you out; just pay shipping and I'll do my best to fix it up for you.
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 10 August 2015, 16:42:48
Post by: E3E on Mon, 10 August 2015, 17:06:52
Anyone know what kind of screws the Viper / Eagle use?
Here, these are the specs from the Lightsaver thread I found and used for reference when looking for info for my Octagon:
Quote
Screws: the 10 little screws you need to attach the plate to the case are size M2 in Torx T6 with a 0.4mm pitch (called "coarse" or "normal") and 5mm length.
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 10 August 2015, 23:56:51
Thanks!Anyone know what kind of screws the Viper / Eagle use?
Here, these are the specs from the Lightsaver thread I found and used for reference when looking for info for my Octagon:QuoteScrews: the 10 little screws you need to attach the plate to the case are size M2 in Torx T6 with a 0.4mm pitch (called "coarse" or "normal") and 5mm length.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 11 August 2015, 02:39:24
Post by: Sed8op8 on Tue, 11 August 2015, 05:24:56
@elton thanks for the acrylic inserts good sir 8)
This was probably mentioned here but did anyone come up with a good simple way to attach the acrylic inserts to there viper ?
Post by: FreeChemicals on Tue, 11 August 2015, 05:42:05
This was probably mentioned here but did anyone come up with a good simple way to attach the acrylic inserts to there viper ?
What JaccoW wrote is pretty useful: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.msg1551072#msg1551072
Post by: E3E on Tue, 11 August 2015, 12:06:36
Keep the faith trenza.... I just had someone surprise me with a new viper :eek:
@elton thanks for the acrylic inserts good sir 8)
This was probably mentioned here but did anyone come up with a good simple way to attach the acrylic inserts to there viper ?
I use double-sided fabric tape, which is pretty much 100% adhesive without a backing like duct tape or masking tape. http://www.michaels.com/10340764.html
EDIT: JaccoW's method might be better if you want to remove them easily. The stuff I use has a lot of adhesion. It can be pulled off without an issue though, but you'd have to reapply it if you want to have the sides stick again. It holds really well though. I also only apply the tape on the outer parts of the insert, like near the edges.
Post by: retrochick on Tue, 11 August 2015, 19:06:50
Post by: Sent on Tue, 11 August 2015, 19:15:52
Post by: retrochick on Tue, 11 August 2015, 19:25:39
Pretty sure there's one or two Vipers for sale in classified's right now. Two silver and a black one but they're already built.Thanks dude, ya I think I looked at Glitched's classified & another one, but am looking for an unassembled kit because well, monies :'(
Post by: Sent on Tue, 11 August 2015, 19:26:28
Pretty sure there's one or two Vipers for sale in classified's right now. Two silver and a black one but they're already built.Thanks dude, ya I think I looked at Glitched's classified & another one, but am looking for an unassembled kit because well, monies :'(
Yeah, the unassembled bit is tricky. You could always wait for the second run/V2 of these. ^___^
Post by: retrochick on Tue, 11 August 2015, 19:45:15
(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/give_it_to_me_stephen_colbert.gif)Pretty sure there's one or two Vipers for sale in classified's right now. Two silver and a black one but they're already built.Thanks dude, ya I think I looked at Glitched's classified & another one, but am looking for an unassembled kit because well, monies :'(
Yeah, the unassembled bit is tricky. You could always wait for the second run/V2 of these. ^___^
JK, i can wait.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 11 August 2015, 22:34:57
Whooaaa, hold on, is there definitely going to be a second run?Pretty sure there's one or two Vipers for sale in classified's right now. Two silver and a black one but they're already built.Thanks dude, ya I think I looked at Glitched's classified & another one, but am looking for an unassembled kit because well, monies :'(
Yeah, the unassembled bit is tricky. You could always wait for the second run/V2 of these. ^___^
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 11 August 2015, 22:36:34
Whooaaa, hold on, is there definitely going to be a second run?
I hope so.
Post by: Sent on Tue, 11 August 2015, 23:56:26
Whooaaa, hold on, is there definitely going to be a second run?
Been talk, I think.
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 12 August 2015, 00:02:51
If there is a second round, I'm going to explode with joy. $220 for a viper is an insta buy. Sad I missed this in the first place.Whooaaa, hold on, is there definitely going to be a second run?
Been talk, I think.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 00:19:31
It looks like it is very probable 8)Whooaaa, hold on, is there definitely going to be a second run?Pretty sure there's one or two Vipers for sale in classified's right now. Two silver and a black one but they're already built.Thanks dude, ya I think I looked at Glitched's classified & another one, but am looking for an unassembled kit because well, monies :'(
Yeah, the unassembled bit is tricky. You could always wait for the second run/V2 of these. ^___^
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 12 August 2015, 00:19:47
I think 2nd run will be like the HHKB where the bottom row isn't centeredIf there is a second round, I'm going to explode with joy. $220 for a viper is an insta buy. Sad I missed this in the first place.Whooaaa, hold on, is there definitely going to be a second run?
Been talk, I think.
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 12 August 2015, 00:39:16
Even better. :cool:I think 2nd run will be like the HHKB where the bottom row isn't centeredIf there is a second round, I'm going to explode with joy. $220 for a viper is an insta buy. Sad I missed this in the first place.Whooaaa, hold on, is there definitely going to be a second run?
Been talk, I think.
Post by: Sent on Wed, 12 August 2015, 00:58:17
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 12 August 2015, 01:13:00
I'd be tempted to get a second Viper if there's a second run and anodize it some crazy color.Thats what I would want to do. Maybe olive green or something
Post by: Sent on Wed, 12 August 2015, 01:14:31
Thats what I would want to do. Maybe olive green or something
Yeah, I was thinking GTR midnight purple or some pink with silver/black flake in it...something different.
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 12 August 2015, 01:17:51
that would be nice, but could you do that w/ anodizing?Thats what I would want to do. Maybe olive green or something
Yeah, I was thinking GTR midnight purple or some pink with silver/black flake in it...something different.
Post by: Sent on Wed, 12 August 2015, 01:20:15
that would be nice, but could you do that w/ anodizing?
Dunno. I'd bring it to my friend whose shop builds cars for SEMA and such. I figure I throw it at him, tell him what I want, and see what comes of it. Worst comes to worst, I still get it anodized something different. Maybe build a board that isn't just black and gray for once (purple GON doesn't count).
Post by: E3E on Wed, 12 August 2015, 01:20:43
I'd be tempted to get a second Viper if there's a second run and anodize it some crazy color.Thats what I would want to do. Maybe olive green or something
Yeah, this is something I'm considering if Octagon 2 happens as I'm starting to hear about, at least from one thread. I do hope the Octagon's second revision doesn't happen too soon. I can't pass up that.
But yes, Duck brothers and sisters, I too plan on having my Duck reanodized some crazy color. I want to go with an electric blue or pink. :D A blue and red pair of Octagons would be a nice set to have.
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 12 August 2015, 01:21:53
Post by: E3E on Wed, 12 August 2015, 01:27:23
A lime green Viper would be sweet though. Slap some Dragonfruit on that if the IC ever turns into a GB, and :thumb: forever.
Post by: sth on Wed, 12 August 2015, 01:43:56
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 12 August 2015, 01:49:05
people are selling because they are an imitation of a better board. just get a hhkb -_-But I want to try the best that cherry can offer for me (Zeals purple switches it looks like) whilst keeping the scrumptious layout. :(
And if cherry mx really isn't for me, then I can sell it. :)
Post by: jorgenslee on Wed, 12 August 2015, 03:49:18
Post by: epzy on Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:09:19
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:12:10
Duck posted (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&search_target=nick_name&search_keyword=duck0113&document_srl=2713321) a render of a Viper V2 case some time ago:Whooaaa, hold on, is there definitely going to be a second run?Pretty sure there's one or two Vipers for sale in classified's right now. Two silver and a black one but they're already built.Thanks dude, ya I think I looked at Glitched's classified & another one, but am looking for an unassembled kit because well, monies :'(
Yeah, the unassembled bit is tricky. You could always wait for the second run/V2 of these. ^___^
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/321/713/002/66e5cdb3978c93c26adf6a820e47a759.jpg)
I'm not sure when we'll see another Viper round though. I think first there will be another Lightsaver round after Orion V2.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:56:37
HELLLS YES Sent could we get matching vipers pwetty pwetty pweaseThats what I would want to do. Maybe olive green or something
Yeah, I was thinking GTR midnight purple or some pink with silver/black flake in it...something different.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:59:11
Now, I can't deny that these are sexy boards. They definitely are, but the ideal I have with 60% boards is that they should be light and portable. Now obviously, that's just a personal thing for me, but it is a reason why I'm not so into the Viper and Eagles. They are way cool though and the pseudo HHKB look of the Viper is ace.I FREAKING LOVE the weight of my viper ! Thing is straight beast and can and will hurt someone !!!!
A lime green Viper would be sweet though. Slap some Dragonfruit on that if the IC ever turns into a GB, and :thumb: forever.
Post by: Sent on Wed, 12 August 2015, 06:23:44
HELLLS YES Sent could we get matching vipers pwetty pwetty pwease
Let's do it, bb.
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/dea73533f922bd3b814f9456078715c0/tumblr_inline_mlmjwiaTFx1qz4rgp.gif)
Post by: E3E on Wed, 12 August 2015, 20:13:24
Now, I can't deny that these are sexy boards. They definitely are, but the ideal I have with 60% boards is that they should be light and portable. Now obviously, that's just a personal thing for me, but it is a reason why I'm not so into the Viper and Eagles. They are way cool though and the pseudo HHKB look of the Viper is ace.I FREAKING LOVE the weight of my viper ! Thing is straight beast and can and will hurt someone !!!!
A lime green Viper would be sweet though. Slap some Dragonfruit on that if the IC ever turns into a GB, and :thumb: forever.
Solid aluminum and stainless steel. Gotta love it, man! :thumb:
Post by: Vintage on Wed, 19 August 2015, 10:06:55
Just one question: how do you layout the switches in the plate for 7x spacebar? Do you just skip the cutout between Ctrl and Alt? Does anyone have a pic of their board in this layout without the keycaps on?
Also, the only soldering required would be the switches for this PCB, correct?
Thanks in advance :D
Post by: FreeChemicals on Wed, 19 August 2015, 10:21:28
Finally getting to putting together my Eagle today!
Just one question: how do you layout the switches in the plate for 7x spacebar? Do you just skip the cutout between Ctrl and Alt? Does anyone have a pic of their board in this layout without the keycaps on?
Also, the only soldering required would be the switches for this PCB, correct?
Thanks in advance :D
Use the 'inner' holes for a 7u layout. For instance, left control has 2 ways to mount it, use the holes closest to the spacebar. The same way for modkeys on the rightside of the spacebar. Just pop in some switches and give it a try (without soldering). Also check the caps lock key, because you can mount it two ways as well.
If you don't use LEDs, the switches are the only parts that require soldering.
Post by: Vintage on Wed, 19 August 2015, 10:29:01
Finally getting to putting together my Eagle today!
Just one question: how do you layout the switches in the plate for 7x spacebar? Do you just skip the cutout between Ctrl and Alt? Does anyone have a pic of their board in this layout without the keycaps on?
Also, the only soldering required would be the switches for this PCB, correct?
Thanks in advance :D
Use the 'inner' holes for a 7u layout. For instance, left control has 2 ways to mount it, use the holes closest to the spacebar. The same way for modkeys on the rightside of the spacebar. Just pop in some switches and give it a try (without soldering). Also check the caps lock key, because you can mount it two ways as well.
If you don't use LEDs, the switches are the only parts that require soldering.
Thanks!
I'll do a dry run before soldering and post to see if it's correct
If I wanted to add LEDs to the switches, would I have to solder resistors or just the LEDs themselves?
Thanks again :D
Post by: FreeChemicals on Wed, 19 August 2015, 10:47:24
Finally getting to putting together my Eagle today!
Just one question: how do you layout the switches in the plate for 7x spacebar? Do you just skip the cutout between Ctrl and Alt? Does anyone have a pic of their board in this layout without the keycaps on?
Also, the only soldering required would be the switches for this PCB, correct?
Thanks in advance :D
Use the 'inner' holes for a 7u layout. For instance, left control has 2 ways to mount it, use the holes closest to the spacebar. The same way for modkeys on the rightside of the spacebar. Just pop in some switches and give it a try (without soldering). Also check the caps lock key, because you can mount it two ways as well.
If you don't use LEDs, the switches are the only parts that require soldering.
Thanks!
I'll do a dry run before soldering and post to see if it's correct
If I wanted to add LEDs to the switches, would I have to solder resistors or just the LEDs themselves?
Thanks again :D
My Viper PCB came with the resistors presoldered, the small parts marked with RXX on the PCB.
Post by: Vintage on Wed, 19 August 2015, 13:31:26
Ok cool.Finally getting to putting together my Eagle today!
Just one question: how do you layout the switches in the plate for 7x spacebar? Do you just skip the cutout between Ctrl and Alt? Does anyone have a pic of their board in this layout without the keycaps on?
Also, the only soldering required would be the switches for this PCB, correct?
Thanks in advance :D
Use the 'inner' holes for a 7u layout. For instance, left control has 2 ways to mount it, use the holes closest to the spacebar. The same way for modkeys on the rightside of the spacebar. Just pop in some switches and give it a try (without soldering). Also check the caps lock key, because you can mount it two ways as well.
If you don't use LEDs, the switches are the only parts that require soldering.
Thanks!
I'll do a dry run before soldering and post to see if it's correct
If I wanted to add LEDs to the switches, would I have to solder resistors or just the LEDs themselves?
Thanks again :D
My Viper PCB came with the resistors presoldered, the small parts marked with RXX on the PCB.
I finished the sticker and lube process. Looks like this so far:
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/19/e46d4bd80fdc51448942c8e480332fae.jpg)
So keep the bottom left empty for 7x layout?
Post by: FreeChemicals on Wed, 19 August 2015, 14:18:18
(http://i.imgur.com/Mqr0rDD.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Mqr0rDD.jpg)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 19 August 2015, 15:50:43
You can't really tell without a PCB, but I've circled the right holes for 7u layout (although this is the Viper PCB, the holes are the same. If you install switches in those places, you'll see where to put Ctrl).
(http://i.imgur.com/Mqr0rDD.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Mqr0rDD.jpg)
I usually just put some caps on the switches in question and pop the switches in. If anything is off, you'll notice it real quick.
Post by: Vintage on Wed, 19 August 2015, 18:14:05
Thanks.
Post by: slickmamba on Sun, 06 September 2015, 19:55:34
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74953.0
Post by: E3E on Thu, 01 October 2015, 13:08:46
If someone has an Eagle PCB they wouldn't mind letting go of, please PM me!
Post by: WhitePlate on Mon, 19 October 2015, 12:19:10
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 19 October 2015, 13:16:19
Post by: retrochick on Thu, 22 October 2015, 15:10:23
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 22 October 2015, 17:29:46
I'm still looking to buy an eagle case if anyone is selling. I know it's unlikely, but always worth a try.
Not sure if I can wait for round 2 haha. Anyone looking to sell their unassembled kit please let me know :)
Requests to purchase after a group buy has shipped belong in Classifieds.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 22 October 2015, 17:30:51
Requests to purchase after a group buy has shipped belong in Classifieds.I'm not debating this, totally reasonable, but it happens all the time. Will it be enforced across the board now?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 22 October 2015, 17:44:02
Requests to purchase after a group buy has shipped belong in Classifieds.I'm not debating this, totally reasonable, but it happens all the time. Will it be enforced across the board now?
I've made comments in every GB thread I've seen it in over the last few weeks. I will not be out policing looking for it (I don't do that anyway), but if I see it I make a point to say something. If you do see it, feel free to report it. In the grand scheme of things it's one of the lesser important rules (especially if the person is able to make a Classifieds post and therefore isn't trying to dodge that rule), but it's so easy to just give a reminder that I do make a point to do so.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 22 October 2015, 17:50:49
Alright, thanks for the explanation. Sorry for bothering everyone subscribed to this thread.Requests to purchase after a group buy has shipped belong in Classifieds.I'm not debating this, totally reasonable, but it happens all the time. Will it be enforced across the board now?
I've made comments in every GB thread I've seen it in over the last few weeks. I will not be out policing looking for it (I don't do that anyway), but if I see it I make a point to say something. If you do see it, feel free to report it. In the grand scheme of things it's one of the lesser important rules (especially if the person is able to make a Classifieds post and therefore isn't trying to dodge that rule), but it's so easy to just give a reminder that I do make a point to do so.
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 01 November 2015, 00:30:15
There is issue in while I flash firmware.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/E7isxqt.jpg)
Please help me. Laptop can't detect viper :(
I finally assembled my kit today, and after flashing, I got the same error quochung got, and now every flash just error's out. Anyone know how to fix it? :(
Edit, nvm, flip fixed it.
Post by: mashby on Mon, 23 November 2015, 10:50:32
I built up the Viper last night and using it a little bit today but I could use some help getting oriented. For those of you that have been using your board for up to a year now, I'm hoping you can help me out.
In the default layout...
1. Where are the arrow keys?
2. How do you turn off the side LEDs?
I'm on a Mac but I've been playing with Duck's Firmware Program (https://gist.github.com/tjweir/c7ed2c2871f9acb05bc6) on a Remote Desktop and I don't see those options in the default keymap.
------------------------------------
Question For Mac Users
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I've been away for most of this year and forgotten a lot while I was at it. LOL! Anyway, what tool are you guys using to load the hex file to your Viper? tjweir was kind enough to post the HHKB layout (https://gist.github.com/tjweir/c7ed2c2871f9acb05bc6) on his GitHub and I might just quickly switch to that to kick things off.
Thanks in advance!
Post by: adrl on Mon, 23 November 2015, 23:05:43
2) LED controls. Forgot what it is in default but I did map mine to fn layer 2
Post by: mashby on Tue, 24 November 2015, 08:51:19
1) Default won't have arrow keys I believe. I mapped my arrow keys fn layer 1 to wasd and hjkl
2) LED controls. Forgot what it is in default but I did map mine to fn layer 2
Thanks adrl for the reply, that helps nudge me in the right direction.
If anyone else has any input, I'm all ears.
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 27 November 2015, 02:33:40
The LED on the caps lock is also blinking once.
I'm on a Mac right now, is there any way I can get access to the duck firmware program or is it windows only?
Post by: E3E on Fri, 27 November 2015, 02:53:15
Just received my Eagle today, plugged it in, and the LED turns on, all of them. How do I turn them off?
The LED on the caps lock is also blinking once.
I'm on a Mac right now, is there any way I can get access to the duck firmware program or is it windows only?
Unfortunately, I cannot help when it comes to Mac advice, as I've always used Windows. Maybe a virtual machine could allow you to flash the firmware.
The single blink on the Caps Lock LED means you are currently in layer one of the keyboard layout.
Depending on the previous owner, there might be an LED control key somewhere on the board, but finding it might be tricky if not impossible. LED control disables and enables the LEDs (Caps Lock LED is always on so it can show your layer selection).
I'm not sure if any of the 02D software runs on Mac.
EDIT: Lol, we have the exact same post count. :)
(http://puu.sh/lAlBW/a8f71d0238.jpg)
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 27 November 2015, 02:55:07
Just received my Eagle today, plugged it in, and the LED turns on, all of them. How do I turn them off?
The LED on the caps lock is also blinking once.
I'm on a Mac right now, is there any way I can get access to the duck firmware program or is it windows only?
Unfortunately, I cannot help when it comes to Mac advice, as I've always used Windows. Maybe a virtual machine could allow you to flash the firmware.
The single blink on the Caps Lock LED means you are currently in layer one of the keyboard layout.
Depending on the previous owner, there might be an LED control key somewhere on the board, but finding it might be tricky if not impossible. LED control disables and enables the LEDs (Caps Lock LED is always on so it can show your layer selection).
I'm not sure if any of the 02D software runs on Mac.
EDIT: Lol, we have the exact same post count. :) [img]http://puu.sh/lAlBW/a8f71d0238.jpg[/iimg]
I'm on my windows machine now and already downloaded the o2d software.
Can you guide me in maybe restoring it to default?
Post by: E3E on Fri, 27 November 2015, 02:58:20
Just received my Eagle today, plugged it in, and the LED turns on, all of them. How do I turn them off?
The LED on the caps lock is also blinking once.
I'm on a Mac right now, is there any way I can get access to the duck firmware program or is it windows only?
Unfortunately, I cannot help when it comes to Mac advice, as I've always used Windows. Maybe a virtual machine could allow you to flash the firmware.
The single blink on the Caps Lock LED means you are currently in layer one of the keyboard layout.
Depending on the previous owner, there might be an LED control key somewhere on the board, but finding it might be tricky if not impossible. LED control disables and enables the LEDs (Caps Lock LED is always on so it can show your layer selection).
I'm not sure if any of the 02D software runs on Mac.
EDIT: Lol, we have the exact same post count. :) [img]http://puu.sh/lAlBW/a8f71d0238.jpg[/iimg]
I'm on my windows machine now and already downloaded the o2d software.
Can you guide me in maybe restoring it to default?
What is your keyboard layout like, a 7u bottom row and short right shift, or what?
In the 02D program, you should be able to select new > Duck Eagle/Viper and it should load the default layout. Be warned that the wrong firmware version can sometimes cause the flashing not to work properly, but don't worry, this can be easily fixed if so. There is no LED control by default from what I know. Just make a key in some other layer LED control, and then you will be able to disable the LEDs.
Edit: FN Layer 3 has LED control bound to the Caps Lock position.
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 27 November 2015, 03:02:47
Just received my Eagle today, plugged it in, and the LED turns on, all of them. How do I turn them off?
The LED on the caps lock is also blinking once.
I'm on a Mac right now, is there any way I can get access to the duck firmware program or is it windows only?
Unfortunately, I cannot help when it comes to Mac advice, as I've always used Windows. Maybe a virtual machine could allow you to flash the firmware.
The single blink on the Caps Lock LED means you are currently in layer one of the keyboard layout.
Depending on the previous owner, there might be an LED control key somewhere on the board, but finding it might be tricky if not impossible. LED control disables and enables the LEDs (Caps Lock LED is always on so it can show your layer selection).
I'm not sure if any of the 02D software runs on Mac.
EDIT: Lol, we have the exact same post count. :) [img]http://puu.sh/lAlBW/a8f71d0238.jpg[/iimg]
I'm on my windows machine now and already downloaded the o2d software.
Can you guide me in maybe restoring it to default?
What is your keyboard layout like, a 7u bottom row and short right shift, or what?
In the 02D program, you should be able to select new > Duck Eagle/Viper and it should load the default layout. Be warned that the wrong firmware version can sometimes cause the flashing not to work properly, but don't worry, this can be easily fixed if so. There is no LED control by default from what I know. Just make a key in some other layer LED control, and then you will be able to disable the LEDs.
Correct. Short right shift and fn button next to it.
I see the option to choose new > o2d viper eagle custom 1.x. Loaded it then do firmware upload?
Then it says dfu programmer not found.
Post by: E3E on Fri, 27 November 2015, 03:14:32
Just received my Eagle today, plugged it in, and the LED turns on, all of them. How do I turn them off?
The LED on the caps lock is also blinking once.
I'm on a Mac right now, is there any way I can get access to the duck firmware program or is it windows only?
Unfortunately, I cannot help when it comes to Mac advice, as I've always used Windows. Maybe a virtual machine could allow you to flash the firmware.
The single blink on the Caps Lock LED means you are currently in layer one of the keyboard layout.
Depending on the previous owner, there might be an LED control key somewhere on the board, but finding it might be tricky if not impossible. LED control disables and enables the LEDs (Caps Lock LED is always on so it can show your layer selection).
I'm not sure if any of the 02D software runs on Mac.
EDIT: Lol, we have the exact same post count. :) [img]http://puu.sh/lAlBW/a8f71d0238.jpg[/iimg]
I'm on my windows machine now and already downloaded the o2d software.
Can you guide me in maybe restoring it to default?
What is your keyboard layout like, a 7u bottom row and short right shift, or what?
In the 02D program, you should be able to select new > Duck Eagle/Viper and it should load the default layout. Be warned that the wrong firmware version can sometimes cause the flashing not to work properly, but don't worry, this can be easily fixed if so. There is no LED control by default from what I know. Just make a key in some other layer LED control, and then you will be able to disable the LEDs.
Correct. Short right shift and fn button next to it.
I see the option to choose new > o2d viper eagle custom 1.x. Loaded it then do firmware upload?
Then it says dfu programmer not found.
****, I forgot about all the dfu programmer stuff. I'll have to remember how I did that. Whizzard's how to guide on his Octagon build page (his own webpage) was very helpful.
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 27 November 2015, 06:32:32
Any way i can fix it without opening up everything?
(http://i.imgur.com/1pUb0js.jpg)
Post by: E3E on Fri, 27 November 2015, 06:36:51
Seems like the stabilizer on the right side is detached!
Any way i can fix it without opening up everything?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1pUb0js.jpg)
Oh god, this nightmare. This is the one thing I seriously hate about Cherry stabilizers. Yes, you can work it back into the stab dummy and the retaining clip, but you need some pretty small curved tools and finesse to be able to do it without having to desolder any switches. I use wax carving tools for the job. As they're made from a pretty soft steel, they shouldn't scratch a stainless plate easily. Make sure you have the wire in the right position in the dummy or else you'll be kicking yourself. There are two slots in the dummy that a wire could potentially slip into. You want to aim for the bottom one.
http://www.pjtool.com/dental-pick-set-4pc.aspx This style works very well. If you have anything similar enough, it might work. Maybe tweezers with stout tips that are curved.
Just to clarify: Do you mean that the wire popped out of the retaining clip and dummy or do you mean that the stab insert popped out of the PCB? The method I mentioned was directed toward the former issue, but it can be used for both.
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 27 November 2015, 06:51:06
Seems like the stabilizer on the right side is detached!
Any way i can fix it without opening up everything?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1pUb0js.jpg)
Oh god, this nightmare. This is the one thing I seriously hate about Cherry stabilizers. Yes, you can work it back into the stab dummy and the retaining clip, but you need some pretty small curved tools and finesse to be able to do it without having to desolder any switches. I use wax carving tools for the job. As they're made from a pretty soft steel, they shouldn't scratch a stainless plate easily. Make sure you have the wire in the right position in the dummy or else you'll be kicking yourself. There are two slots in the dummy that a wire could potentially slip into. You want to aim for the bottom one.
http://www.pjtool.com/dental-pick-set-4pc.aspx This style works very well. If you have anything similar enough, it might work. Maybe tweezers with stout tips that are curved.
Just to clarify: Do you mean that the wire popped out of the retaining clip and dummy or do you mean that the stab insert popped out of the PCB? The method I mentioned was directed toward the former issue, but it can be used for both.
The wire popped out of the clip for sure. The wire is moving freely when I went in there using my tweezer.
Post by: E3E on Fri, 27 November 2015, 06:53:46
Seems like the stabilizer on the right side is detached!
Any way i can fix it without opening up everything?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1pUb0js.jpg)
Oh god, this nightmare. This is the one thing I seriously hate about Cherry stabilizers. Yes, you can work it back into the stab dummy and the retaining clip, but you need some pretty small curved tools and finesse to be able to do it without having to desolder any switches. I use wax carving tools for the job. As they're made from a pretty soft steel, they shouldn't scratch a stainless plate easily. Make sure you have the wire in the right position in the dummy or else you'll be kicking yourself. There are two slots in the dummy that a wire could potentially slip into. You want to aim for the bottom one.
http://www.pjtool.com/dental-pick-set-4pc.aspx This style works very well. If you have anything similar enough, it might work. Maybe tweezers with stout tips that are curved.
Just to clarify: Do you mean that the wire popped out of the retaining clip and dummy or do you mean that the stab insert popped out of the PCB? The method I mentioned was directed toward the former issue, but it can be used for both.
The wire popped out of the clip for sure. The wire is moving freely when I went in there using my tweezer.
Ugh yeah, I hate that issue. OG caps and Cherry profile caps tend to have this problem the worst. They just hold on way too tightly. Chalk it up to caps that are too tight and design flaws in the stabilizer (yeah, it's the prettiest and most compatible kind of stab, imo, but... this issue...). I lube the stab mounts for my Cherry caps and the stabs themselves, though this doesn't always help too much.
For the best maneuvering, you're going to want to use two tools. One to try and shimmy it in the right slot in the stab dummy, and then another to force it back into the retaining clip.
Post by: zhihuichan on Fri, 27 November 2015, 23:30:58
As I konw there will be oactagon v2,light saver v3 and Orion v3. Sadly no viper v2 !
Post by: E3E on Fri, 27 November 2015, 23:38:30
Since duck0113 had post the viper version 2 design drawing for long time. Does any know any detail about group buy round 2?
As I konw there will be oactagon v2,light saver v3 and Orion v3. Sadly no viper v2 !
Unless Duck surprises us, it seems like they are not planned for the next year.
Post by: zhihuichan on Sat, 28 November 2015, 03:00:20
Since duck0113 had post the viper version 2 design drawing for long time. Does any know any detail about group buy round 2?
As I konw there will be oactagon v2,light saver v3 and Orion v3. Sadly no viper v2 !
Unless Duck surprises us, it seems like they are not planned for the next year.
yep,maybe 2017 :(
Post by: bounstar on Sat, 28 November 2015, 06:08:26
Post by: mashby on Sat, 28 November 2015, 15:09:50
Post by: lanyusea on Tue, 05 January 2016, 07:17:41
will it happen this year?
Post by: mashby on Tue, 05 January 2016, 14:06:14
may I ask when there will be the next round GB?
will it happen this year?
Only Duck can say for sure, but all signs currently point to no. :'(
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 05 January 2016, 14:07:59
may I ask when there will be the next round GB?
will it happen this year?
Only Duck can say for sure, but all signs currently point to no. :'(
Nope. Octagon v2 -> LSV3 -> Orion v3
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:05:42
may I ask when there will be the next round GB?
will it happen this year?
Only Duck can say for sure, but all signs currently point to no. :'(
Nope. Octagon v2 -> LSV3 -> Orion v3
Sorry, what's "LSV3?"
Post by: Solo on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:11:44
may I ask when there will be the next round GB?
will it happen this year?
Only Duck can say for sure, but all signs currently point to no. :'(
Nope. Octagon v2 -> LSV3 -> Orion v3
Sorry, what's "LSV3?"
Lightsaver Version 3
Post by: tjweir on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:37:33
Lightsaver Version 3
Ahh yes, obvious in hindsight :|
Post by: Bigpock on Fri, 15 January 2016, 13:36:47
My wallet isn't rly set for this right now or even the near future so im kinda happy other customs are being worked on now.
Post by: HannahPeach on Sun, 17 January 2016, 01:42:35
Seems like the stabilizer on the right side is detached!
Any way i can fix it without opening up everything?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1pUb0js.jpg)
Were you able to fix it? You can try to use a creditcard or something really thin to push the wire back into the socket.. wokrs everytime on my viper.
Post by: raymogi on Sun, 17 January 2016, 01:43:49
Seems like the stabilizer on the right side is detached!
Any way i can fix it without opening up everything?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1pUb0js.jpg)
Were you able to fix it? You can try to use a creditcard or something really thin to push the wire back into the socket.. wokrs everytime on my viper.
Yep I fixed it already. I used my watch tool to get into the tight space.
Post by: bazh on Sun, 17 January 2016, 05:04:53
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 19 January 2016, 14:49:31
Post by: zeta on Tue, 02 February 2016, 01:14:03
Post by: xondat on Tue, 02 February 2016, 06:40:16
Any chance of this being ran again?
We can hope BUT;
nothing is planned.
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 02 February 2016, 06:46:03
Any chance of this being ran again?We can hope
I'm praying....
Post by: STARLORDCOFFEE on Tue, 02 February 2016, 12:18:33
Any chance of this being ran again?We can hope
I'm praying....
Want a Viper so bad. Been planning on an HHKB for a while but I'm going to wait a bit longer in hopes that a Viper Kit pops up. Ive already seen the most recent full build go up but I already have way too many Linear switch boards.
Post by: tjweir on Wed, 03 February 2016, 08:06:38
Any chance of this being ran again?
Duck tends to not re-run older builds, rather releasing a new version. As you can see[1], the V2 of Octagon is running right now, which followed the V2 of Orion.
Visit his site to keep on top of things: http://duck0113.tistory.com/
[1] - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78549.0
Post by: zeta on Wed, 03 February 2016, 21:15:06
Post by: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 21:16:39
That's a shame. I'm sure I'm not the only person holding out for a quality HHKB-style MX board.
Duck is a single person and he can only handle so much. Why keep running the same boards when you can create new designs? There will most likely be a newer version eventually but he can only do one group buy at a time.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 03 February 2016, 21:55:57
That's a shame. I'm sure I'm not the only person holding out for a quality HHKB-style MX board.
Duck is a single person and he can only handle so much. Why keep running the same boards when you can create new designs? There will most likely be a newer version eventually but he can only do one group buy at a time.
But people want it now.
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 03 February 2016, 22:03:30
Post by: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 22:06:32
I'm hoping that he doesn't change the designs too much in the next versions .
If he follows the same path as the others then he'll most likely just make it a two case design with options for the bottom case and add indicator lights.
Post by: LXXXIX on Wed, 03 February 2016, 22:06:43
I hope the v3 line will be something completely out of this world! Looking forward to it. :)
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 03 February 2016, 22:53:40
I'm hoping that he doesn't change the designs too much in the next versions .
If he follows the same path as the others then he'll most likely just make it a two case design with options for the bottom case and add indicator lights.
yeah, I don't care about side LED's, or acrylic bottoms. I actually like the look of the Eagle case without the acrylic pieces.
And I hope there's no random holes for LED's in the aluminum body.
Post by: Steezus on Wed, 03 February 2016, 23:17:00
I'm hoping that he doesn't change the designs too much in the next versions .
If he follows the same path as the others then he'll most likely just make it a two case design with options for the bottom case and add indicator lights.
yeah, I don't care about side LED's, or acrylic bottoms. I actually like the look of the Eagle case without the acrylic pieces.
And I hope there's no random holes for LED's in the aluminum body.
Yeah I honestly like it the way it is. I really liked my Orion v2 but there was just something about it that didn't make it feel as a special custom. I don't really know how to describe it though, Duck makes really good boards though.
Post by: E3E on Thu, 04 February 2016, 00:16:53
I'm hoping that he doesn't change the designs too much in the next versions .
If he follows the same path as the others then he'll most likely just make it a two case design with options for the bottom case and add indicator lights.
yeah, I don't care about side LED's, or acrylic bottoms. I actually like the look of the Eagle case without the acrylic pieces.
And I hope there's no random holes for LED's in the aluminum body.
Yeah I honestly like it the way it is. I really liked my Orion v2 but there was just something about it that didn't make it feel as a special custom. I don't really know how to describe it though, Duck makes really good boards though.
Yeah, I feel this way about the Eagle, though the Viper makes up for it by being a HHKB replica. I am not a big fan of the look of the case, but since I started with the Octagon v1, these two little 60% remind me of a shrunken Octagon.
Looking at my Octagon right now, I do think it looks pretty rad, but that's also because of its funky nameplate that gives it character. I think the Octagon v2 seems less special imo. I'm so up in the air about that one, but I need something to put my damn vintage MX whites in, and I IF I get into the VE.A buy, I'd rather use Alps for that.
If I had thought about it sooner, I'd have hotswap modded my v1, then I could just be like. THERE WE GO, THAT'S WHERE I'LL PUT THE MX WHITES. I am not desoldering the Octagon v1 AGAIN. Now I need a board for it.
#keyboardlogic #feedingyouraddiction
It's either that or a 75% PCB. I'd rather the v1 have a 75% Alps PCB anyway if it could. SEE!? I'm tying myself in knots. It's like I'm not even supposed to have those vintage whites, man!
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:07:04
Post by: STARLORDCOFFEE on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:12:00
I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
Sounds good. :thumb: My body is ready.
Post by: zeta on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:22:05
I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
Down.
Post by: alexjd99 on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:29:45
I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)Hype!
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:34:05
I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
And I was prepared to wait until 2017 for the Viper :thumb:
Post by: hKing on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:44:12
I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)**** me. That's awesome! :-*
Post by: jerue on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:58:51
I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
(https://i.imgur.com/zNJ4r1g.gif)
Post by: Steezus on Sat, 06 February 2016, 15:08:14
I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
Now that is something unexpected, I'm super excited about that! :thumb:
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 06 February 2016, 15:31:46
I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
I'll be ready this time.
Post by: tuco on Sat, 06 February 2016, 15:38:53
Post by: Karura on Sat, 06 February 2016, 18:50:04
I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
Do you know if there will be any changes made to it? I'm a big fan of the symmetrical Viper, and not the other one that is asymmetrical, HHKB-like.
Post by: WhitePlate on Sat, 06 February 2016, 19:05:13
I agree with this. I'm not a fan of the asymmetrical HHKB like Viper.I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
Do you know if there will be any changes made to it? I'm a big fan of the symmetrical Viper, and not the other one that is asymmetrical, HHKB-like.
Post by: sageco on Sat, 06 February 2016, 20:26:23
I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
This should demonstrate the intensity of my interest.
Post by: mrboovn on Sat, 06 February 2016, 20:31:17
Post by: Edmundoh on Sat, 06 February 2016, 20:44:17
I need that thick lip action, floating keys aren't really doing it for me.
Also curious, how do you program and map the keys when you get the board?
Post by: swimmingbird on Sat, 06 February 2016, 21:06:10
I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
Right after I pay $450 for a viper lol
Post by: alexjd99 on Sat, 06 February 2016, 21:19:02
But now you can pay ~$250 for another and have two!I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
Right after I pay $450 for a viper lol
Post by: swimmingbird on Sat, 06 February 2016, 21:23:35
But now you can pay ~$250 for another and have two!I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
Right after I pay $450 for a viper lol
That was never in question haha
Post by: E3E on Sat, 06 February 2016, 21:54:02
I agree with this. I'm not a fan of the asymmetrical HHKB like Viper.I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
Do you know if there will be any changes made to it? I'm a big fan of the symmetrical Viper, and not the other one that is asymmetrical, HHKB-like.
Wait, doesn't this mean you two actually DISAGREE?
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 06 February 2016, 22:50:59
Super Interested in a Duck Eagle, if it does go for another run, I really hope the same style case is kept.
Really, Really hoping this is the "case" as well.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 06 February 2016, 23:00:48
Yes yes finally. Too bad bro you can't hold your lust for korean boardI heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
Right after I pay $450 for a viper lol
Post by: alexjd99 on Sat, 06 February 2016, 23:03:56
(https://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-04/6/16/enhanced/webdr06/anigif_enhanced-buzz-3108-1428353864-7.gif)Super Interested in a Duck Eagle, if it does go for another run, I really hope the same style case is kept.
Really, Really hoping this is the "case" as well.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 06 February 2016, 23:08:39
No pun intended?Super Interested in a Duck Eagle, if it does go for another run, I really hope the same style case is kept.
Really, Really hoping this is the "case" as well.
Post by: xondat on Sun, 07 February 2016, 03:04:06
I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
I was about to call you out saying elton has not planned it at all so it's probably not true...
Hey Elton. Great news.
Post by: lootbag on Sun, 07 February 2016, 03:18:18
Right after I pay $450 for a viper lol
In the same boat as you, but I foresee myself gunning for Round 2 as well.
Post by: WhitePlate on Sun, 07 February 2016, 09:28:15
At least you won't have to wait a couple of months for it :)I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
Right after I pay $450 for a viper lol
Post by: xondat on Sun, 07 February 2016, 14:50:59
At least you won't have to wait a couple of months for it :)I heard viper and eagle might show up again after Octagon V2 ;)
Right after I pay $450 for a viper lol
It'll be more than a couple of months, probably 5/6+
Post by: Bigpock on Mon, 08 February 2016, 12:58:41
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 08 February 2016, 13:50:27
Would the new price point still be in the 200-300 dollar range, or more in the 300-400 dollar range like the other duck customs. I need to start putting money away LOL
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. If you save for the $300-400 range you will be safe and may be able to add more extras.
Post by: lootbag on Tue, 16 February 2016, 04:28:18
I am considering re-anodizing my case and I assume the shop will need to know.
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 16 February 2016, 07:00:18
Quick question, anyone know what metal and the exact type the cases are made of?6061 IIRC
I am considering re-anodizing my case and I assume the shop will need to know.
I don't know the exact type of alumunium
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 25 February 2016, 02:47:28
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/687/488/003/098aed33bf8d50ff777cc8878f846db8.jpg)
Source: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687)
Post by: Weiss on Thu, 25 February 2016, 03:27:28
Looks like the new versions are going to have random holes for LEDs :(
pic snip
Source: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687)
Any idea what keycaps those are on the Viper v2? They look really nice on that board.
Post by: E3E on Thu, 25 February 2016, 03:36:51
Looks like the new versions are going to have random holes for LEDs :(Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/687/488/003/098aed33bf8d50ff777cc8878f846db8.jpg)
Source: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687)
Yeeep, it's that distinctive v2 design.
Post by: lootbag on Thu, 25 February 2016, 03:49:42
Looks like the new versions are going to have random holes for LEDs :(Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/687/488/003/098aed33bf8d50ff777cc8878f846db8.jpg)
Source: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687)
Interesting... 6.25 spacebar... not sure if how I feel about it lining up with the "," key above on the right.
Need my Octagon V2 to arrive and think about Viper V2...
I wonder if the new case will be a split affair with an angled acrylic option available.
Hope Duck tries something new.
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 25 February 2016, 03:55:07
I really like the symmetry on the existing design
Post by: E3E on Thu, 25 February 2016, 04:19:32
Looks like the new versions are going to have random holes for LEDs :(Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/687/488/003/098aed33bf8d50ff777cc8878f846db8.jpg)
Source: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687)
Interesting... 6.25 spacebar... not sure if how I feel about it lining up with the "," key above on the right.
Need my Octagon V2 to arrive and think about Viper V2...
I wonder if the new case will be a split affair with an angled acrylic option available.
Hope Duck tries something new.
The thing with Duck, it seems, is that, instead of rolling out a unique design with every keyboard, he seems to have styles that roll out in waves and gradual progression if you notice how the v1 Lightsaver was in comparison to the v2 and the v1 Orion (taking the v2 LS design) and the v1 Octagon and Viper and Eagle all taking the same LS v2 design. Now the Orion v2 ushered in a new design paradigm for Duck and I don't think he's going to change it just yet.
I guess we'll see. The Trinity that was mentioned in the Octagon thread seems pretty fascinating.
Post by: mrboovn on Thu, 25 February 2016, 15:18:49
I think it's just Gateron blank ?Looks like the new versions are going to have random holes for LEDs :(
pic snip
Source: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687)
Any idea what keycaps those are on the Viper v2? They look really nice on that board.
Post by: lanyusea on Fri, 26 February 2016, 10:36:59
Looks like the new versions are going to have random holes for LEDs :(Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/687/488/003/098aed33bf8d50ff777cc8878f846db8.jpg)
Source: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687)
wow～～
Post by: STARLORDCOFFEE on Fri, 26 February 2016, 12:05:40
Didn't notice the 6.25u space bar in the new version
I really like the symmetry on the existing design
Time to start lurking for V1's :( was really hoping we would get dat symmetry again.
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 26 February 2016, 12:11:16
Post by: dgneo on Fri, 26 February 2016, 12:22:18
Terribad Google Translate aside, word from Duck.
Post by: lanyusea on Fri, 26 February 2016, 12:59:58
Didn't notice the 6.25u space bar in the new version
I really like the symmetry on the existing design
the 6.25u on a viper keyboard looks a little wired.
either 6u or 7u is a metter idea for a HHKB-like case
Post by: appleonama on Fri, 26 February 2016, 17:10:49
interesting choice on ducks side. 7u was fine I wonder why the change
Post by: E3E on Fri, 26 February 2016, 17:35:29
Well then this new viper might not be suited for a lot of us.
interesting choice on ducks side. 7u was fine I wonder why the change
I'm assuming to get closer to the 6u layout of the HHKB without actually requiring a 6u space bar? Maybe. Sometimes design changes are a little whimsical.
Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 26 February 2016, 17:49:48
Looks like the new versions are going to have random holes for LEDs :(Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/687/488/003/098aed33bf8d50ff777cc8878f846db8.jpg)
Source: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=3488687)
dats nice :eek:
sad bout the spacebar though.
Post by: swimmingbird on Sat, 27 February 2016, 00:00:15
Well then this new viper might not be suited for a lot of us.
interesting choice on ducks side. 7u was fine I wonder why the change
i can't see why the number of people interested would vastly change if anything this brings it closer in line with the original HHKB design
Post by: lanyusea on Sat, 27 February 2016, 01:19:03
Well then this new viper might not be suited for a lot of us.
interesting choice on ducks side. 7u was fine I wonder why the change
i can't see why the number of people interested would vastly change if anything this brings it closer in line with the original HHKB design
maybe because this idea is quite new.
Currently all HHKB-like keyboard use 6u spacebar (infinity) or 7u spacebar (GH60 HHKB). People need time to get used to a 6.25 one as I think.
Yes I agree 6.25u is a good idea cause it can suit most of the keycap sets in the world.
However, I still think the right side of spacebar matches the position of the key on previous row look weird.
But whatever,
SHUTUPANDTAKEMYMONEY!!
Post by: appleonama on Sat, 27 February 2016, 01:21:18
Well then this new viper might not be suited for a lot of us.
interesting choice on ducks side. 7u was fine I wonder why the change
i can't see why the number of people interested would vastly change if anything this brings it closer in line with the original HHKB design
viper =/= hhkb
just buy a hhkb
Post by: lanyusea on Sat, 27 February 2016, 01:59:51
Well then this new viper might not be suited for a lot of us.
interesting choice on ducks side. 7u was fine I wonder why the change
i can't see why the number of people interested would vastly change if anything this brings it closer in line with the original HHKB design
viper =/= hhkb
just buy a hhkb
I have a HHKB but I just love its layout instead of the switch.
Therefore, there are many guys trying to make a HHKB-layout mechanical keyboard.
HHKB is HHKB,
but HHKB layout is not only for HHKB, right?
Post by: appleonama on Sat, 27 February 2016, 02:50:11
Well then this new viper might not be suited for a lot of us.
interesting choice on ducks side. 7u was fine I wonder why the change
i can't see why the number of people interested would vastly change if anything this brings it closer in line with the original HHKB design
viper =/= hhkb
just buy a hhkb
I have a HHKB but I just love its layout instead of the switch.
Therefore, there are many guys trying to make a HHKB-layout mechanical keyboard.
HHKB is HHKB,
but HHKB layout is not only for HHKB, right?
Yeah.. you are right. I'm just circle jerking the Hhkb :p
Post by: Khers on Sat, 27 February 2016, 03:43:58
Post by: pichu23 on Sat, 27 February 2016, 11:27:13
Either way, I'm excited. Always wanted to try a hhkb style layout.
Post by: Vittra on Sat, 27 February 2016, 11:36:26
Post by: E3E on Sat, 27 February 2016, 12:47:09
Will there be an Eagle V2 to accompany the Viper V2? Far more interesting to me.
Agreed. There should be!
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 27 February 2016, 12:53:58
Will there be an Eagle V2 to accompany the Viper V2? Far more interesting to me.
I would think the Eagle V2 GB should happen at the same time as Viper V2 like what happened for the V1's.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Sat, 27 February 2016, 14:00:35
Post by: E3E on Sat, 27 February 2016, 14:06:36
If the Viper V2 is the same price as the V1 I will definitely buy one. Fingers crossed that it's close.
If it's a two-piece design like all of Duck's recent boards, it will probably be a little more expensive. The Octagon v2 was at least.
For instance, according to the Octagon v1 and v2 GB forms, the first Octagon was $366.03 shipped to the US.
The Octagon v2 in all aluminum with no extras came out to $422.13 shipped to the US.
The Orion v1 was more expensive than the v2, however.
Also, if there are more than 15 sets ordered, price will drop to $385.
From Elton regarding the Orion v1 in its original thread.
Only 13 orders for that one though. Things were very different two years ago. :P
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 27 February 2016, 17:16:51
If the Viper V2 is the same price as the V1 I will definitely buy one. Fingers crossed that it's close.
I'm sure those little LED hole are going to add to the cost :rolleyes:
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 29 February 2016, 11:13:24
Post by: redskull on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:02:52
Apparently this wouldn't be a viper but something wider.(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/894ca386719dbc9de69119a86615237c.jpg)
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/081683e2148df50dc2b96de6fb70943d.jpg)
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/17f712ab35fe05e8130e650a5abc286d.jpg)
:eek:
Post by: mrboovn on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:59:53
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:04:36
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:08:58
Apparently this wouldn't be a viper but something wider.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/894ca386719dbc9de69119a86615237c.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/081683e2148df50dc2b96de6fb70943d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/17f712ab35fe05e8130e650a5abc286d.jpg)
:eek:
whew. There's still hope.
Post by: WNovizar on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:11:08
Apparently this wouldn't be a viper but something wider.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/894ca386719dbc9de69119a86615237c.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/081683e2148df50dc2b96de6fb70943d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/17f712ab35fe05e8130e650a5abc286d.jpg)
:eek:
Is that the so called Duck Trinity? Man I'd rather have LZ-RV than that
Post by: slickmamba on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:12:58
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:13:38
I might have a black viper for sale sometime soon. Thought I'd post here before for people who are interested.
RIP Inbox
Post by: lanyusea on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:15:21
Apparently this wouldn't be a viper but something wider.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/894ca386719dbc9de69119a86615237c.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/081683e2148df50dc2b96de6fb70943d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/17f712ab35fe05e8130e650a5abc286d.jpg)
:eek:
holy ****....
it looks a little creepy, from my point of view...
Post by: lanyusea on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:16:28
I might have a black viper for sale sometime soon. Thought I'd post here before for people who are interested.
I'm in. XD
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:26:10
Apparently this wouldn't be a viper but something wider.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/894ca386719dbc9de69119a86615237c.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/081683e2148df50dc2b96de6fb70943d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/17f712ab35fe05e8130e650a5abc286d.jpg)
:eek:
so this is project trinity..
dissapointed. why dont just make lightsaver v3 instead.
need lightsaver in my laifu :'(..
Post by: demik on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:27:19
Apparently this wouldn't be a viper but something wider.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/894ca386719dbc9de69119a86615237c.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/081683e2148df50dc2b96de6fb70943d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/17f712ab35fe05e8130e650a5abc286d.jpg)
:eek:
holy ****....
it looks a little creepy, from my point of view...
it looks like that fish that has a lot of people type teeth
Post by: slickmamba on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:27:48
Apparently this wouldn't be a viper but something wider.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/894ca386719dbc9de69119a86615237c.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/081683e2148df50dc2b96de6fb70943d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/17f712ab35fe05e8130e650a5abc286d.jpg)
:eek:
holy ****....
it looks a little creepy, from my point of view...
it looks like that fish that has a lot of people type teeth
****s fugs
Post by: demik on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:29:38
Apparently this wouldn't be a viper but something wider.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/894ca386719dbc9de69119a86615237c.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/081683e2148df50dc2b96de6fb70943d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/17f712ab35fe05e8130e650a5abc286d.jpg)
:eek:
holy ****....
it looks a little creepy, from my point of view...
it looks like that fish that has a lot of people type teeth
****s fugs
More
(http://pthumbnails.5min.com/10354530/517726454_3_521_383.jpg)
im sorry
im sorry
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:36:28
Apparently this wouldn't be a viper but something wider.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/894ca386719dbc9de69119a86615237c.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/081683e2148df50dc2b96de6fb70943d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/17f712ab35fe05e8130e650a5abc286d.jpg)
:eek:
holy ****....
it looks a little creepy, from my point of view...
it looks like that fish that has a lot of people type teeth
****s fugsMoreShow Image(http://pthumbnails.5min.com/10354530/517726454_3_521_383.jpg)
im sorry
so ugly :(
Post by: E3E on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:59:09
Apparently this wouldn't be a viper but something wider.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/894ca386719dbc9de69119a86615237c.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/081683e2148df50dc2b96de6fb70943d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/17f712ab35fe05e8130e650a5abc286d.jpg)
:eek:
holy ****....
it looks a little creepy, from my point of view...
it looks like that fish that has a lot of people type teeth
****s fugsMoreShow Image(http://pthumbnails.5min.com/10354530/517726454_3_521_383.jpg)
im sorry
so ugly :(
Excuse the quote wall, but WHY DOES THIS EXIST!?
I'm going to leave it intentionally ambiguous as to which I'm referring to, but wow. Dear god.
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 01 March 2016, 01:07:12
Post by: WNovizar on Tue, 01 March 2016, 01:22:07
Post by: raymogi on Tue, 01 March 2016, 01:23:59
Post by: joey on Tue, 01 March 2016, 01:34:30
Did duck really thought that combining HHKB + FC660 + 1800 layout is a cool idea? like.....lolIt's the trinity of layouts!
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 01 March 2016, 01:44:56
and its The most powerful custom keyboard!!!!!!!! :))Did duck really thought that combining HHKB + FC660 + 1800 layout is a cool idea? like.....lolIt's the trinity of layouts!
Post by: lootbag on Tue, 01 March 2016, 01:48:14
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 01 March 2016, 01:50:35
Post by: WNovizar on Tue, 01 March 2016, 02:20:20
http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/631/478/003/1838e957fe3a7daa47ca1f769f9f8868.jpg
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 01 March 2016, 02:22:33
Nah bro, I'm more interested in this
http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/631/478/003/1838e957fe3a7daa47ca1f769f9f8868.jpg
+1 Agreeeddddddd! :thumb:
lightsaver v3 please :p
Post by: WNovizar on Tue, 01 March 2016, 02:26:02
Nah bro, I'm more interested in this
http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/631/478/003/1838e957fe3a7daa47ca1f769f9f8868.jpg
+1 Agreeeddddddd! :thumb:
lightsaver v3 please :p
Right? It's Lightsaver + Additional middle column...LINX3 is doing the GB right now......in Korea :p
Post by: lanyusea on Tue, 01 March 2016, 03:26:10
Nah bro, I'm more interested in this
http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/631/478/003/1838e957fe3a7daa47ca1f769f9f8868.jpg
+1 Agreeeddddddd! :thumb:
lightsaver v3 please :p
I think the condition is that, many people want the Viper v2, meanwhile more people wanna the Lightsaver v3.
Then it's better to combile them,
and
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.
.
.
TRINITY!!!
Post by: R4WBIT on Tue, 01 March 2016, 06:15:11
Post by: HannahPeach on Tue, 01 March 2016, 07:05:16
So no new Viper or Eagle then? Is this the reveal?
I suppose that's the reveal yeah
Post by: STARLORDCOFFEE on Tue, 01 March 2016, 11:50:43
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 01 March 2016, 12:43:51
Post by: E3E on Tue, 01 March 2016, 12:49:13
As someone who's owned a Lightsaver for a long time (until recently), I actually really like this new design. A wall of keycaps with no separation can get a bit old--I like the aluminum dividers on the renders.
Being an Octagon owner, I too agree. While 75% is nice, sometimes TKL is a nice refresher with that extra space. I certainly love using my full sized boards to switch things up sometimes.
So I can definitely agree that separation can be pretty welcome sometimes. I can see the slab of keys getting a bit tiresome after a while.
Post by: redskull on Tue, 01 March 2016, 12:54:47
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:08:20
not sure if I like it or hate it just yet
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:09:50
Post by: naasfu on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:12:39
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:18:14
don't lose hope guys this is just a new keyboard that is probably going to go into rotation. He wanted to design his own unique layout which is why he filed a patent and copyright.
wait he actually patented the design?
I don't see how thats a good thing
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:20:40
(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/d74dad6deb144943904eedc21bf62286.jpg)don't lose hope guys this is just a new keyboard that is probably going to go into rotation. He wanted to design his own unique layout which is why he filed a patent and copyright.
wait he actually patented the design?
I don't see how thats a good thing
Well its a layout that I like so I don't have an issue if he monopolizes this so called "black bird" layout
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:22:55
don't lose hope guys this is just a new keyboard that is probably going to go into rotation. He wanted to design his own unique layout which is why he filed a patent and copyright.
wait he actually patented the design?
I don't see how thats a good thingShow Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/d74dad6deb144943904eedc21bf62286.jpg)
Well its a layout that I like so I don't have an issue if he monopolizes this so called "black bird" layout
Yeah I don't care about the layout
I just think it kind of goes against the spirit of the community to patent something as simple as a layout
Unless of course he plans to let other people use the design and just doesn't want a big company taking the form factor
Post by: alexjd99 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 21:30:19
Apparently this wouldn't be a viper but something wider.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/894ca386719dbc9de69119a86615237c.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/081683e2148df50dc2b96de6fb70943d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/17f712ab35fe05e8130e650a5abc286d.jpg)
:eek:
I'm not entirely sure if I like it or not.
(http://media3.popsugar-assets.com/files/2014/11/07/324/n/28443503/5134aad6f74e4916_When-Ron-Gives-Us-Best-Expression-Being-Able-DuL84sh.xxxlarge/i/When-your-thighs-feel-like-re-fire-from-all-those-squats.gif)
Post by: KaLam1ty on Tue, 01 March 2016, 22:04:35
On one hand, I'm happy it's a different keyboard, as I like the original Viper; but on the other, I still want a Viper :)).
Glad Duck is still exploring new options though!
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 02 March 2016, 02:33:19
The dark lovechild of an FC660 and 1800... I love it and really want it.Apparently this wouldn't be a viper but something wider.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/894ca386719dbc9de69119a86615237c.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/081683e2148df50dc2b96de6fb70943d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/17f712ab35fe05e8130e650a5abc286d.jpg)
Post by: HannahPeach on Wed, 02 March 2016, 06:34:54
Apparently this wouldn't be a viper but something wider.Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/894ca386719dbc9de69119a86615237c.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/081683e2148df50dc2b96de6fb70943d.jpg)Show Image(http://kbdlab.co.kr/files/attach/images/340/894/504/003/17f712ab35fe05e8130e650a5abc286d.jpg)
:eek:
Loving this!
Post by: ntelope on Wed, 02 March 2016, 17:24:30
Post by: tuco on Wed, 02 March 2016, 17:29:56
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 02 March 2016, 17:51:47
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 02 March 2016, 20:36:58
Can we get a thread going on for that board?
I guess it might have to depend on whether duck is going to bring it to us via elton.
Post by: Vaun on Thu, 10 March 2016, 12:53:44
Post by: grav3serker on Thu, 10 March 2016, 14:55:22
I'll probably be buying this guy.
Post by: saviart on Fri, 11 March 2016, 09:27:52
Im newbie, thank.
Post by: HannahPeach on Fri, 11 March 2016, 09:30:29
Anyone, plese tell me , does duck eagle is out of production ?
Im newbie, thank.
Yes, the Duck Eagle is out of production for now.
But there might be a second round coming up this or next year, so don't lose hope
just yet. :)
Post by: saviart on Fri, 11 March 2016, 09:36:08
Hope this round 2 coming soon.
Btw, Thank u.
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 11 March 2016, 17:36:04
When I connect the board with the flip button down (caps lock) and go to device manager the viper shows up as a "ATm32U4DFU" under Universal Serial Bus devices
What do?
Post by: JulienC on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:07:52
I'm trying to update my viper with new firmware but when I go to upload the firmware through the O2D software I get a message saying "Check Atmel USB Driver"
When I connect the board with the flip button down (caps lock) and go to device manager the viper shows up as a "ATm32U4DFU" under Universal Serial Bus devices
What do?
I update mine through dfu-programmer.
Hold the CapsLock button while plugging the keyboard in. The caps led will flash. Then run those commands:
Code: [Select]
dfu-programmer atmega32u4 erase
dfu-programmer atmega32u4 flash your-file.hex
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:14:23
I'm trying to update my viper with new firmware but when I go to upload the firmware through the O2D software I get a message saying "Check Atmel USB Driver"
When I connect the board with the flip button down (caps lock) and go to device manager the viper shows up as a "ATm32U4DFU" under Universal Serial Bus devices
What do?
I update mine through dfu-programmer.
Hold the CapsLock button while plugging the keyboard in. The caps led will flash. Then run those commands:Code: [Select]dfu-programmer atmega32u4 erase
dfu-programmer atmega32u4 flash your-file.hex
ive tried this but the board i have shows up as a atm32u4dfu rather than atmega32u4 in my device manager
when I go to cmd prompt and use dfu programmer to erase it can't find the board (either the atmega32u4 or the atm32u4dfu that shows up in device manager)
Post by: lootbag on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:55:17
I'm trying to update my viper with new firmware but when I go to upload the firmware through the O2D software I get a message saying "Check Atmel USB Driver"
When I connect the board with the flip button down (caps lock) and go to device manager the viper shows up as a "ATm32U4DFU" under Universal Serial Bus devices
What do?
Hey swimmingbird, hopefully I can help you out.
Just ignore the showing up as "ATm32U4DFU" and "Check Atmel USB Driver" errors you are getting now.
Have you tried using FLIP? Download here: http://www.atmel.com/tools/FLIP.aspx (http://www.atmel.com/tools/FLIP.aspx)
I use it to flash my Viper, as well as my HHKB running TMK.
Just plug in the Viper while holding down Caps Lock.
And follow the instructions at the very bottom of the page here: http://duck0113.tistory.com/84 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/84)
Duck gives you instructions on how to flash using FLIP software. (translate using chrome)
Make sure you select ATmega32U4 at the beginning or else it won't flash properly.
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 11 March 2016, 18:59:08
I'm trying to update my viper with new firmware but when I go to upload the firmware through the O2D software I get a message saying "Check Atmel USB Driver"
When I connect the board with the flip button down (caps lock) and go to device manager the viper shows up as a "ATm32U4DFU" under Universal Serial Bus devices
What do?
Hey swimmingbird, hopefully I can help you out.
Just ignore the showing up as "ATm32U4DFU" and "Check Atmel USB Driver" errors you are getting now.
Have you tried using FLIP? Download here: http://www.atmel.com/tools/FLIP.aspx (http://www.atmel.com/tools/FLIP.aspx)
I use it to flash my Viper, as well as my HHKB running TMK.
Just plug in the Viper while holding down Caps Lock.
And follow the instructions at the very bottom of the page here: http://duck0113.tistory.com/84 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/84)
Duck gives you instructions on how to flash using FLIP software. (translate using chrome)
Make sure you select ATmega32U4 at the beginning or else it won't flash properly.
Thanks man I'll try this when I get home!
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 11 March 2016, 21:36:30
`I'm trying to update my viper with new firmware but when I go to upload the firmware through the O2D software I get a message saying "Check Atmel USB Driver"
When I connect the board with the flip button down (caps lock) and go to device manager the viper shows up as a "ATm32U4DFU" under Universal Serial Bus devices
What do?
Hey swimmingbird, hopefully I can help you out.
Just ignore the showing up as "ATm32U4DFU" and "Check Atmel USB Driver" errors you are getting now.
Have you tried using FLIP? Download here: http://www.atmel.com/tools/FLIP.aspx (http://www.atmel.com/tools/FLIP.aspx)
I use it to flash my Viper, as well as my HHKB running TMK.
Just plug in the Viper while holding down Caps Lock.
And follow the instructions at the very bottom of the page here: http://duck0113.tistory.com/84 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/84)
Duck gives you instructions on how to flash using FLIP software. (translate using chrome)
Make sure you select ATmega32U4 at the beginning or else it won't flash properly.
Okay I managed to fix it... what I had to do was go to the device manager and manually specify to install the default atmega32u4 driver rather than just let it do it the automatic way
After I did this the device showed up on Device Manager under Atmel devices (which did not exist before in my device manager)
After this I ran the O2D software and it worked perfectly
Thanks for all your help
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 12 March 2016, 13:30:58
Post by: lootbag on Fri, 25 March 2016, 10:58:42
I want to lasercut an acrylic plate to try out.
Also, I want to replace the SMD LEDs on the bottom.
I believe they are 3528 type but just want to verify.
Looking to use these ones: http://world.taobao.com/item/521700558134.htm?spm=a312a.7700825.1997196601.213.rTv02N (http://world.taobao.com/item/521700558134.htm?spm=a312a.7700825.1997196601.213.rTv02N)
I know this was mentioned a while back, but does anyone know the dimensions of the screws that mount the plate/PCB to the case? I think they are torx t4, but I have no idea about the length, TPI or diameter.
I don't think I received the original bolts as I bought mine second hand.
The bolts are M2x0.4 (thread and pitch), length could range from 5-10mm.
The head could be torx T4 but the ones I am using are philips head.
Post by: ntelope on Fri, 01 April 2016, 18:06:57
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 01 April 2016, 18:16:36
I might be selling my duck eagle sometime soon. Thought maybe people here would be interested in it
nothing to see here
Post by: ntelope on Fri, 01 April 2016, 22:59:47
I might be selling my duck eagle sometime soon. Thought maybe people here would be interested in it
nothing to see here
hello seal.
I'm an antelope.
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 01 April 2016, 23:30:55
Hi antelopeI might be selling my duck eagle sometime soon. Thought maybe people here would be interested in it
nothing to see here
hello seal.
I'm an antelope.
Post by: R4WBIT on Tue, 19 July 2016, 07:24:31
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Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 19 July 2016, 07:59:21
Anyone got a clue in what Duck is doing? Been a while since we saw an update from him and I'm still hoping for another round of the viper!He is probably still finalizing stuff to start the Blackbird GB. I'd actually love to see another Viper/Eagle/anything but Blackbird and Lightsaver GB before he starts with the Blackbird, since I'm not interested in the other ones and do not yet have the money for the Blackbird, which would then be delayed long enough for me to save up, haha.
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Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 19 July 2016, 09:52:10
Anyone got a clue in what Duck is doing? Been a while since we saw an update from him and I'm still hoping for another round of the viper!He is probably still finalizing stuff to start the Blackbird GB.
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I think you're right. As the Octagon V2 R3 shipment has been sent out, Duck is likely working on the Blackbird GB. I'm hoping that the Eagle/Viper GB will surface soon after.
Post by: mrboovn on Thu, 22 September 2016, 09:41:09
(http://i.imgur.com/5YrP7gE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/A40Ksg9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bRtMEWG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FICoTsJ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Jme4yZp.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yEUPZD0.jpg)
Post by: nickheller on Thu, 22 September 2016, 09:42:22
Post by: ReverbSlush on Thu, 22 September 2016, 09:43:10
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 22 September 2016, 09:43:57
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 22 September 2016, 09:44:47
Post by: tikhonovdanya on Thu, 22 September 2016, 10:01:18
Post by: duhhey on Thu, 22 September 2016, 10:02:35
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 September 2016, 10:07:13
Hey guys,Viper and Eagle V2 is cominggg :p :p :p :pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/5YrP7gE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A40Ksg9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bRtMEWG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FICoTsJ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Jme4yZp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yEUPZD0.jpg)
Nice. Hope there's a diffuser-less case option.
Post by: potatobot on Thu, 22 September 2016, 10:11:03
Post by: E3E on Thu, 22 September 2016, 10:19:43
Hey guys,Viper and Eagle V2 is cominggg :p :p :p :pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/5YrP7gE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A40Ksg9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bRtMEWG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FICoTsJ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Jme4yZp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yEUPZD0.jpg)
Some things I've noticed:
• Centered USB port which is done to accommodate the acrylic diffuser inserts, I'd imagine.
• Much longer diffuser inserts than the Octagon v2 and Orion v2 from what it seem (note the backside).
• Some strange aluminum bottom option shown on the Eagle v2 :-X
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 22 September 2016, 10:47:46
Post by: airs on Thu, 22 September 2016, 12:15:04
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 22 September 2016, 12:20:13
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 22 September 2016, 12:54:51
Post by: Gatix on Thu, 22 September 2016, 12:57:09
Post by: SevenU on Thu, 22 September 2016, 12:57:52
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Post by: E3E on Thu, 22 September 2016, 13:45:50
Hey guys,Viper and Eagle V2 is cominggg :p :p :p :pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/5YrP7gE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A40Ksg9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bRtMEWG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FICoTsJ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Jme4yZp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yEUPZD0.jpg)
Nice. Hope there's a diffuser-less case option.
With Duck's current design paradigm? I doubt that. That's his thing. Pinhole indicators and integrated diffusers define the current gen style.
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 September 2016, 14:19:22
I know, but one can hope.Hey guys,Viper and Eagle V2 is comingggShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/5YrP7gE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A40Ksg9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bRtMEWG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FICoTsJ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Jme4yZp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yEUPZD0.jpg)
Nice. Hope there's a diffuser-less case option.
With Duck's current design paradigm? I doubt that. That's his thing. Pinhole indicators and integrated diffusers define the current gen style.
Post by: Khers on Thu, 22 September 2016, 14:49:01
You and I can always hope for an Eagle/Viper V3 without diffuser and pinholes... :)I know, but one can hope.Hey guys,Viper and Eagle V2 is comingggShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/5YrP7gE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/A40Ksg9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bRtMEWG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FICoTsJ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Jme4yZp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yEUPZD0.jpg)
Nice. Hope there's a diffuser-less case option.
With Duck's current design paradigm? I doubt that. That's his thing. Pinhole indicators and integrated diffusers define the current gen style.
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 22 September 2016, 15:30:01
Post by: xondat on Thu, 22 September 2016, 15:47:23
This is what I've been waiting for. And Xondat told me it wasn't going to run again, psssh.Uhh... I never said that!
Post by: nickheller on Thu, 22 September 2016, 15:49:28
This is what I've been waiting for. And Xondat told me it wasn't going to run again, psssh.Uhh... I never said that!
More
(https://christiantietze.de/posts/2016/05/emoji-bytes-lost/201605031815_hmm.png)
Post by: SevenU on Thu, 22 September 2016, 15:55:08
You've convinced me. I believe you.This is what I've been waiting for. And Xondat told me it wasn't going to run again, psssh.Uhh... I never said that!
Post by: xondat on Thu, 22 September 2016, 16:06:09
:confused:You've convinced me. I believe you.This is what I've been waiting for. And Xondat told me it wasn't going to run again, psssh.Uhh... I never said that!
Post by: fublamchu on Thu, 22 September 2016, 17:54:29
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 22 September 2016, 18:43:07
Post by: Weiss on Thu, 22 September 2016, 19:08:55
Ahh! This probably will be my first Kustom! Btw, is the space/cutout in the alu. case meant for weight inserts?
If you're talking about in the direct center of the case, then yes, that space is typically meant for a weight insert.
Post by: fublamchu on Thu, 22 September 2016, 19:11:41
Ahh! This probably will be my first Kustom! Btw, is the space/cutout in the alu. case meant for weight inserts?
If you're talking about in the direct center of the case, then yes, that space is typically meant for a weight insert.
Ah I see, thanks for the info!
Post by: yookwh on Thu, 22 September 2016, 20:43:01
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 25 September 2016, 11:54:31
Post by: SevenU on Sun, 25 September 2016, 14:19:48
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Post by: R4WBIT on Sun, 25 September 2016, 14:23:14
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3919025&mid=board_Lsno50
http://kbd4u.co.kr/product/detail.html?product_no=63&cate_no=1&display_group=2
Post by: tikhonovdanya on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:41:26
New pictures!
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3919025&mid=board_Lsno50
http://kbd4u.co.kr/product/detail.html?product_no=63&cate_no=1&display_group=2
So as i can see the price will be around 280$ or i'm mistaken?
Post by: xondat on Sun, 25 September 2016, 18:44:55
It will probably be more, it always is outside of Korea.New pictures!
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3919025&mid=board_Lsno50
http://kbd4u.co.kr/product/detail.html?product_no=63&cate_no=1&display_group=2
So as i can see the price will be around 280$ or i'm mistaken?
Post by: zeta on Sun, 25 September 2016, 20:09:14
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 25 September 2016, 21:17:01
I guess that pretty case was just a proto and it won't happen...
Post by: WarCommand on Sun, 25 September 2016, 22:07:48
Following this post very carefully now. Hope to get at least one of these :thumb:
Post by: Weiss on Sun, 25 September 2016, 22:40:37
Maybe even an Eagle if I get lucky, gotta have something that's completely stock in layout.
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Sun, 25 September 2016, 23:40:55
Post by: Bigpock on Mon, 26 September 2016, 00:39:57
Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 26 September 2016, 00:44:35
Post by: zhihuichan on Mon, 26 September 2016, 01:04:10
(http://i.imgur.com/NpfdmCo.jpg)
Post by: Quakemz on Mon, 26 September 2016, 05:27:14
Post by: Auxo on Mon, 26 September 2016, 05:58:27
Post by: JulienC on Mon, 26 September 2016, 10:33:29
http://duck0113.tistory.com/m/141 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/m/141)
Post by: E3E on Mon, 26 September 2016, 10:47:22
I thought the viper V2 would be wireless version. Duck had posted a photograph last year on KBDLAB.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NpfdmCo.jpg)
Seems like he decided to go a different route between that time and now.
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 26 September 2016, 10:48:49
Post by: nugglets on Mon, 26 September 2016, 13:00:14
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 26 September 2016, 13:29:56
Post by: fublamchu on Mon, 26 September 2016, 13:37:08
Post by: SevenU on Mon, 26 September 2016, 13:49:46
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Post by: Auxo on Mon, 26 September 2016, 17:20:26
Post by: xondat on Mon, 26 September 2016, 17:25:42
Is there any word on when this will be a thing here?Nope. Blackbird is still being done, I'd say December/January. :'(
Post by: Auxo on Mon, 26 September 2016, 17:38:43
Is there any word on when this will be a thing here?Nope. Blackbird is still being done, I'd say December/January. :'(
Ahh, alright, thanks for the response! Hopefully I will be able to join this time around
Post by: William_S_Jones on Mon, 26 September 2016, 19:00:29
Is there any word on when this will be a thing here?Nope. Blackbird is still being done, I'd say December/January. :'(
Ahh, alright, thanks for the response! Hopefully I will be able to join this time around
AWESOME, I hope to join this time around too!
Post by: ViệtNV on Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:42:18
Post by: robbles on Fri, 30 September 2016, 12:15:38
Post by: gaiden on Thu, 20 October 2016, 19:29:15
So what is everyone's guess on the estimate price for these puppies? ~$250? Am trying to carve out a budget for it.
Also it seems many like Viper is it the symmetry? Would love to hear any opinions. Eagle looks great too but i guess Viper is more unique?
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Post by: Auxo on Thu, 20 October 2016, 19:38:50
A few questions:
So what is everyone's guess on the estimate price for these puppies? ~$250? Am trying to carve out a budget for it.
Also it seems many like Viper is it the symmetry? Would love to hear any opinions. Eagle looks great too but i guess Viper is more unique?
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Pricing for the Korean GB was around $275 USD. I'm guessing that the internationa GB may reach around 350 or more.. not to sure
Post by: wodan on Fri, 21 October 2016, 00:03:28
Take a look at the recent BlackBird GB, there is a spreadsheet linked in the OP where you can see people's invoice amounts for a 360$ board. Better save 400$ if you want to be ready.
Post by: Shiftshape on Fri, 21 October 2016, 06:34:42
Post by: cmd on Fri, 21 October 2016, 07:59:48
Just gotta say; just thinking about V2 gets me rock hard. Elton, PLS!
NA group buy won't happen until the korean group buy is over and NA blackbird GB has been 100% fulfilled. You've got some time brotha
Post by: cicada on Fri, 21 October 2016, 23:49:55
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 22 October 2016, 00:08:52
Only black and silver was available for the Korean GB though. Don't know if there's a chance for more color options for internationa GB :(
I'd guess it's going to be the same.
Post by: cicada on Sat, 22 October 2016, 00:31:53
hahah ikr, seemed highly unlikely to happen. But I left a comment anyway so Elton could see it and maybe, just maybe...Only black and silver was available for the Korean GB though. Don't know if there's a chance for more color options for internationa GB :(
I'd guess it's going to be the same.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 22 October 2016, 00:33:13
hahah ikr, seemed highly unlikely to happen. But I left a comment anyway so Elton could see it and maybe, just maybe...Only black and silver was available for the Korean GB though. Don't know if there's a chance for more color options for internationa GB :(
I'd guess it's going to be the same.
If anything the Korean GB would have more color options than here.
Post by: swimmingbird on Sat, 22 October 2016, 23:29:02
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 23 October 2016, 00:27:58
Hoping that blue grey makes an appearance in V2 :)
Based on the Korean GB, it's looking like only black and silver.
Post by: Bigpock on Sun, 23 October 2016, 02:23:47
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 23 October 2016, 04:37:15
I want to be in the Korean gb wtf
Get a proxy then.
Post by: cicada on Sun, 23 October 2016, 05:08:41
I want to be in the Korean gb wtfKorean GB ended a month ago or so
Post by: tikhonovdanya on Tue, 15 November 2016, 14:23:14
Post by: Auxo on Tue, 15 November 2016, 16:44:15
So the GB will go only in Korea? :(
No, international will be getting a later date AFAIK
Post by: WhitePlate on Mon, 26 December 2016, 09:22:18
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 25 January 2017, 08:42:05
Post by: DanB on Wed, 25 January 2017, 15:38:37
If anyone wants to sell their Viper v2 let me know.. :P
$900
(mostly /s)
Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 28 January 2017, 12:01:43
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 28 January 2017, 12:03:10
Any idea when next GB for this will be?Probably not for another year or longer as V2 is still in the works.
Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 28 January 2017, 12:04:50
Any idea when next GB for this will be?Probably not for another year or longer as V2 is still in the works.
Ok, thanks. Got into the community right after this one ended so was not sure.