Duck Viper and Eagle Group Buy

[Fnzzy]

I thought the round 1 cases were already produced but not anodized?

That's right. They still need to produce all the PCBs and plates.

[Synjin]

Just ordered a Viper Blue-gray. Looking forward to my very first GB purchase from Geek Hack not to mention my very first project ever!!! ^_^

[paobit]

Just ordered a Viper Blue-gray. Looking forward to my very first GB purchase from Geek Hack not to mention my very first project ever!!! ^_^

This too will also be my first build-a-keyboard project and am a bit nervous because I've also never soldered anything before 

[Rewind]

I can't wait! 

[Synjin]

GL TO BOTH OF US PAOBIT!!!

Btw is there a way for me to find out if I have successfully ordered my kit? I'm unfamilliar with the ordering method here, I've only really used shopping cart and checkout form. I went to this site [ https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1iUvy4ss_EFClrfKXiSZ1Gyu3Iqtpa_DuChbowyzOKTo/viewform ] then filled in my info and left the eagle part blank and then selected the viper i wanted. Did I do it correctly?

[Rewind]

GL TO BOTH OF US PAOBIT!!!

Btw is there a way for me to find out if I have successfully ordered my kit? I'm unfamilliar with the ordering method here, I've only really used shopping cart and checkout form. I went to this site [ https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1iUvy4ss_EFClrfKXiSZ1Gyu3Iqtpa_DuChbowyzOKTo/viewform ] then filled in my info and left the eagle part blank and then selected the viper i wanted. Did I do it correctly?

You did.

Now just wait for Elton to send you an invoice to the email address that you provided in the form

[jorgenslee]

I can't wait! 

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Care to share where you source it?

[bazh]

Paid


//OT: anyone know how to change country address in Paypal? I want to edit my shipping address but they dont allow me to change the country

I think you'll need to make a new account. Or you can try to contact PayPal by phone...Just be prepared to provide a bunch of documents. 

Damn that's so complicated


Anw, do we have any estimation on how long the 1st batch will take to be shipped? I'm so excited

[Synjin]

Where did you purchase those from rewind? Oh well I'm glad I was at least able to put my order in. Are these boards pretty rare?

[xybre]

I submitted an order a day or two ago and its not shown up on the spreadsheet, did I miss it?

[minho]

I submitted an order a day or two ago and its not shown up on the spreadsheet, did I miss it?

Give it time, there's a chance Elton just hasn't had a chance to update the spreadsheet yet as he does it manually.

[jameslr]

Question regarding completing the build:

What components do I need to finish an Eagle build aside from switches and stabilizers? I have already procured LEDs and SIP sockets (optional I know).  What exactly is pre-soldered? Is it just the SMD components? Do I still need diodes or will they be presoldered on the board? What about resistors for the LEDs? This is my first custom build, so sorry if I sound noobish.

[Rewind]

I can't wait! 

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Care to share where you source it?

Where did you purchase those from rewind? Oh well I'm glad I was at least able to put my order in. Are these boards pretty rare?

Stickers, lube and switch covers are from techkeys
Springs from SPRiT group buy
Switches from MK.com

[paobit]

maybe a dumb question but what springs are a good weight for the viper? Or what's the general weight people usually get here? There are extra orders for the gold springs from sprit and might as well get some there.

[jameslr]

maybe a dumb question but what springs are a good weight for the viper? Or what's the general weight people usually get here? There are extra orders for the gold springs from sprit and might as well get some there.

Springs are a personal preference thing. Not a dumb question though. Understanding the weights requires some knowledge of the stock switches, but there is a guide to the sprit spring weights on his GB page for the spring sales.

[paobit]

Just ordered the 60g

[elton5354]

Updated everything needed for now. If I missed anything, let me know..

I suppose the 2nd batch can pay later.  I'd say 2 weeks after the 1st batch's deadline.  After the deadline, there can be NO changes to your order.  This is because they need to anodize the cases and the colours will be set once they start.  Address can be changed of course.

[paobit]

Just paid!

[osi]

Updated everything needed for now. If I missed anything, let me know..

I suppose the 2nd batch can pay later.  I'd say 2 weeks after the 1st batch's deadline.  After the deadline, there can be NO changes to your order.  This is because they need to anodize the cases and the colours will be set once they start.  Address can be changed of course.

Thanks for the update Elton!

September 1st is round 2 deadline

[xybre]

I submitted an order a day or two ago and its not shown up on the spreadsheet, did I miss it?

Give it time, there's a chance Elton just hasn't had a chance to update the spreadsheet yet as he does it manually.

Just paid the invoice a few minutes ago, so I'm in! Yay!

[koten]

Paid. 

[ApocalypseMaow]

Same, now for even more waiting!

Huge thanks to Elton for helping us get all this awesome Duck gear!

[adrl]

Once I get this, I just need to find a keyset that matches that black casing.

[paobit]

Once I get this, I just need to find a keyset that matches that black casing.

Personally, I believe any color matches black and white. Hehe I say just pick a set and you're good.

[adrl]

Personally, I believe any color matches black and white. Hehe I say just pick a set and you're good.

Don't have any extra sets so I'm currently on a hunt for a nice one

[Synjin]

I have a question but I hope you guys don't think its dumb =(

What is the advantage of the duck keyboards over regular keyboards aside for the fact that you can build it yourself? I purchased one since I love the layout and the feeling that I made something myself

[SpAmRaY]

Quality parts, metal cause, full customization in firmware, very nice design and layout.

Much like the benefits of most other custom boards.

[Synjin]

Makes sense, case alone already costs over 100usd for a good quality one on other sites. What do you mean customizations on firmware?

[SpAmRaY]

Makes sense, case alone already costs over 100usd for a good quality one on other sites. What do you mean customizations on firmware?

It has firmware which can be modified to change keymapping.

[Synjin]

kind of like whata  poker ii has?

[Fnzzy]

kind of like whata  poker ii has?

If you want your Backspace key to be Esc, you can do it. If you want your Fn key to be the space bar, you can do it. If you want arrow keys on Fn + Q P V M you can have it.

You have complete control over the whole layout.

Different topic. Let's assume I would buy SMD LEDs from Gon, could I use them as side LEDs for the Viper? I'm asking because the Lightsaver uses a different size of side LEDs as far as I'm aware and I'm pretty sure the Viper / Eagle use the same.

[Synjin]

So basically its a more advanced version since any key can be anything.

What do you mean SMD LED? Every time i find out more about this keyboard I get more and more exited lol

[Fnzzy]

So basically its a more advanced version since any key can be anything.

Exactly. You can look at the program here http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program

What do you mean SMD LED? Every time i find out more about this keyboard I get more and more exited lol

You see, the Duck Viper and Eagle have side LEDs just like the other Duck boards.



Those LEDs are Surface Mounted Devices (or SMD for short) since they don't go through a hole and get soldered onto the surface of the PCB.

Also, I have no clue about the 2x3x4 LEDs as well. I usually use 3mm round LEDs that have around 6.000 - 7.000mcd. Now I am looking at 2x3x4 LEDs that have 200mcd. Isn't that way too low? Will it shine just as bright because they have a wider viewing angle?

[xybre]

Personally, I believe any color matches black and white. Hehe I say just pick a set and you're good.

Don't have any extra sets so I'm currently on a hunt for a nice one

Yep, I'll probably strip one of my other keyboards naked in the meantime, but I'd like to find a nice attractive keycap set. It seems like it'd be silly to not put the cherry on top of a nice board.

[cooldiscretion]

SMD - Surface mount device. Any SMD component usually is available in many sizes typically referred to as packages. Gon sells the package size 1206 SMD LEDs which are fairly large when it comes to surface mount components. So if the package size is the same on the side LEDs for the Viper/Eagle you're golden. Otherwise you can always buy any package size SMD LED from mouser or digikey.

[DrHubblePhD]

Ordered! really excited!

[Synjin]

Just Paid off my invoice. I totally didnt even realize u can have SMD on this one, I thought it was a special thing only available for lightsavers

[minho]

SMD - Surface mount device. Any SMD component usually is available in many sizes typically referred to as packages. Gon sells the package size 1206 SMD LEDs which are fairly large when it comes to surface mount components. So if the package size is the same on the side LEDs for the Viper/Eagle you're golden. Otherwise you can always buy any package size SMD LED from mouser or digikey.

I remember reading elton saying that the PCBs come with red side LED's already soldered in...

[epzy]

SMD - Surface mount device. Any SMD component usually is available in many sizes typically referred to as packages. Gon sells the package size 1206 SMD LEDs which are fairly large when it comes to surface mount components. So if the package size is the same on the side LEDs for the Viper/Eagle you're golden. Otherwise you can always buy any package size SMD LED from mouser or digikey.

I remember reading elton saying that the PCBs come with red side LED's already soldered in...

Dis is tr00.

[minho]

SMD - Surface mount device. Any SMD component usually is available in many sizes typically referred to as packages. Gon sells the package size 1206 SMD LEDs which are fairly large when it comes to surface mount components. So if the package size is the same on the side LEDs for the Viper/Eagle you're golden. Otherwise you can always buy any package size SMD LED from mouser or digikey.

I remember reading elton saying that the PCBs come with red side LED's already soldered in...

Dis is tr00.

Unfortunately, I can't find the proof to back it up 

[epzy]

SMD - Surface mount device. Any SMD component usually is available in many sizes typically referred to as packages. Gon sells the package size 1206 SMD LEDs which are fairly large when it comes to surface mount components. So if the package size is the same on the side LEDs for the Viper/Eagle you're golden. Otherwise you can always buy any package size SMD LED from mouser or digikey.

I remember reading elton saying that the PCBs come with red side LED's already soldered in...

Dis is tr00.

Unfortunately, I can't find the proof to back it up 

It's in the OP of this thread. =)

"Info:
Full keymapping
Supports MX and ALPs switches
Full LED and side LED compatible.  Side LED is red by default (on PCB)
Switches and stabilizers not included (MX requires Cherry PCB Stabilizers)
Acrylic accessories not included and not for sale."

[jorgenslee]

Stickers, lube and switch covers are from techkeys
Springs from SPRiT group buy
Switches from MK.com

Did you get the thin or thick lube?

I really have no idea what to use on mx clear. Some say it should be thick but I am planning only to lube the slider, not the leg.

[xybre]

Hmm, does the Eagle need a 6.25u spacebar?

[paobit]

Hmm anyone in the socal area want to build together? I'll need the help/guidance... Lunch will be on me.

[ApocalypseMaow]

Hmm, does the Eagle need a 6.25u spacebar?

I believe it supports 6.25 and 7 unit.

[cphead]

Hmm anyone in the socal area want to build together? I'll need the help/guidance... Lunch will be on me.

Won't have time to build together but will be glad to answer any questions you have about building.

[paobit]

hehe there will be alot when the time comes   

[pmh1410]

Ordered, looking for your invoice soon

Thanks,
pmh1410

[Fnzzy]

Stickers, lube and switch covers are from techkeys
Springs from SPRiT group buy
Switches from MK.com

Did you get the thin or thick lube?

I really have no idea what to use on mx clear. Some say it should be thick but I am planning only to lube the slider, not the leg.

Usually for tactile switches you want to use thick lube. Thin lube is for linear switches.

[ComradeSniper]

Ugh I think I need one of these

Before I pull the trigger I've got some questions because I'm a total MX noob, I'm sure a lot of these have been answered already so I apologize in advance:

What PBT keycap sets come with a short right shift so I could replicate a HHKB layout?

Is this stab kit sufficient for the Viper?

Any pics of the red anodization?