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Title: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: nostyle_au on Mon, 13 February 2023, 18:32:54
KKB Miami Dawn

Discord (https://discord.gg/4ug7WFpKBj) | IC Form (https://forms.gle/d7uJiPD9wkRErYsr5)

A new day arrives for a classic keycap set. KKB Miami Dawn is a rerun of Miami Dusk with improved kitting and availability. Manufactured using double shot ABS by Keykobo.

Kitting:

(https://imgur.com/citWEpj.png)
All in one base kit featuring support for many layouts including varying bars.

(https://imgur.com/rxO2Oej.png)
A collaboration with Hibi! The palm tree novelty on an anodised aluminium keycap with MG1 matched infill.

Colours:

Colours are simple, magenta and cyan on beige. Specifically MG1, TU2, U9 and L9. Keykobo claims to be capable of matching GMK colours 1:1.

Samples:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/3jfZCvN.jpg)


Vendors:

OCE: Daily Clack
USA: Mekibo
CA: Apex Keyboards
EU: KEYGEM
UK: Proto[Typist]
SEA: Hex Keyboards
MENA: SandKeys

Pricing:

Mekibo - 85 USD
Daily Clack -
Apex Keyboards -
KEYGEM -
Proto[Typist] -
Hex Keyboards -
SandKeys - 315 AED

Dates:

The set will run from the 30th of March to the 27th of April

Board Renders:

(https://i.imgur.com/TlCYjb6.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/248JjDv.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/qlhC3MS.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/U2JGjFL.png)


Board Photos:

(https://i.imgur.com/Kd9zMIX.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/WMHo4Xu.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Nl14C3b.png)


Thanks to:

- Joe of UKKeycaps for providing permission to rerun this set
- ankit for your help with kitting and bouncing ideas off of
- justterry for graciously providing board files for renders
- would for doing the same
- and rainkeebs too
- elvenmonster for the fabulous photos of the original set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: nostyle_au on Mon, 13 February 2023, 18:33:17
Q&A:To Do:
Updates:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: ankit on Mon, 13 February 2023, 18:35:21
hi nostyle
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: mr_foggy on Mon, 13 February 2023, 18:38:32
yes
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: B_D on Mon, 13 February 2023, 18:41:03
I will buy 3  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: elvenmonster on Mon, 13 February 2023, 18:49:31
Best set of 2023.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: dededecline on Mon, 13 February 2023, 18:50:41
Is the lack of legends on the 2x 1u Super keys intentional?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: nostyle_au on Mon, 13 February 2023, 18:53:17
Is the lack of legends on the 2x 1u Super keys intentional?

Yep, blank winkeys are to match my two other favourite sets; the 2015 runs of RA and Olivetti
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: Kokaloo on Mon, 13 February 2023, 18:54:27
wow ankit is a genius including ansi support
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Mon, 13 February 2023, 18:54:40
Woah.

Ne accent Magenta, Cyan keys avail?

What would it look like with CP instead of L9?

3 key 40s  :thumb:

Ne mod pipe, mod tilde avail?

Ne front-print avail?

Blank 1u Super-keys is funky  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: dededecline on Mon, 13 February 2023, 18:59:53
Is the lack of legends on the 2x 1u Super keys intentional?

Yep, blank winkeys are to match my two other favourite sets; the 2015 runs of RA and Olivetti

The 1u blanks are personally a dealbreaker for aesthetic reasons but at least it's intentional.

I'd suggest at least considering mod pipe/tilde, r3/r4 pg up/pg dn, and a second 2.25u shift.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: ankit on Mon, 13 February 2023, 19:01:52
wow ankit is a genius including ansi support

why are you here

(https://i.imgur.com/yvJEv9P.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: nostyle_au on Mon, 13 February 2023, 19:02:05
Woah.

Ne accent Magenta, Cyan keys avail?

What would it look like with CP instead of L9?

3 key 40s  :thumb:

Ne mod pipe, mod tilde avail?

Ne front-print avail?

Blank 1u Super-keys is funky  :eek:

Played around with accent keys, wasn't a huge fan. If you're after some Ankit is running WOB Essentials which includes CMYW anyway so I wouldn't want to step on his toes.

CP in place of L9 would be good in my mind, however main goal here was a rerun of the original set with improved kitting, if people would prefer CP in general I'm happy to look into it.

No mod pipe or tilde  :mad:

Front print is being considered, will continue to explore it. Original set offered it so might be worth doing so here too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: nostyle_au on Mon, 13 February 2023, 19:03:43

The 1u blanks are personally a dealbreaker for aesthetic reasons but at least it's intentional.

I'd suggest at least considering mod pipe/tilde, r3/r4 pg up/pg dn, and a second 2.25u shift.

Thanks for the feedback, will definitely consider. I may look into including 1u supers and having the blanks as additional keys if it's too divisive of a decision.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Mon, 13 February 2023, 19:05:42
CP in place of L9 would be good in my mind, however main goal here was a rerun of the original set with improved kitting, if people would prefer CP in general I'm happy to look into it.

Oh. Yeah, you are right.

Front print is being considered, will continue to explore it. Original set offered it so might be worth doing so here too.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: dededecline on Mon, 13 February 2023, 19:06:00

The 1u blanks are personally a dealbreaker for aesthetic reasons but at least it's intentional.

I'd suggest at least considering mod pipe/tilde, r3/r4 pg up/pg dn, and a second 2.25u shift.

Thanks for the feedback, will definitely consider. I may look into including 1u supers and having the blanks as additional keys if it's too divisive of a decision.

I honestly like that idea, as the blanks are effectively novelties
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 13 February 2023, 19:06:15
looks great, nice work

miami nights next
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: Kokaloo on Mon, 13 February 2023, 19:20:19
wow ankit is a genius including ansi support

why are you here

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yvJEv9P.png)


I want win95 logo
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: HappyB0T on Mon, 13 February 2023, 20:50:17
60 / TKL looks fine with the blanks - HHKB is hilarious looking to me. This is fun. Grabbing 2 bar kits at least thanks for kitting it this way! 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: TheIcyKoala on Mon, 13 February 2023, 22:09:39
Ah man I remember missing out miami dusk near the time I started getting into custom keyboards because I didn't want to order from mechsupply in UK. Glad to see it's getting re run, GLWIC  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: finalarcadia on Mon, 13 February 2023, 23:56:57
In very hard.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: Seunghyun Lee on Tue, 14 February 2023, 00:17:58
i hope mod pipe, tilde and accent enter would include in base kit and also R5 and winkey as a child kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: whirlwind on Tue, 14 February 2023, 00:37:20
This is hot, let's go!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: mr_foggy on Tue, 14 February 2023, 03:24:26
the original had a GMK novelty R1 cap, if it doesn't add too much to the basekit price, it might be nice to have it

(https://i.imgur.com/15jQcrN.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: LMarci on Tue, 14 February 2023, 06:18:09
Nut
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: actress on Tue, 14 February 2023, 06:18:43
please reconsider adding r5
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: sirieous on Tue, 14 February 2023, 07:56:51
very lit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: Phractals on Tue, 14 February 2023, 09:46:28
This is so good. Do you have an estimate of when you wanna run this?
I think including 1u Supers would be the right move but i also like the 1u blanks.
Please consider hitting up Oblotzky to vendor this for EU.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: nostyle_au on Tue, 14 February 2023, 16:51:59
This is so good. Do you have an estimate of when you wanna run this?
I think including 1u Supers would be the right move but i also like the 1u blanks.
Please consider hitting up Oblotzky to vendor this for EU.

Not quite sure on when this will end up running at this stage, need to sort out vendors before I'll have any clue in that regard. Also don't want to rush it as I want to action feedback from the IC and will need some time to do that.

I think I'll be adding the 1u Supers in the end. I'm trying to decide between Super/Fn or Win 8 logo/Menu icon. I've added that to the IC as a question to gauge people's preferences for the time being.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: aicyborg on Tue, 14 February 2023, 19:13:21
Please consider adding ISO-UK to base since originally it was present. I understand this is unlikely and you've likely intentionally omitted it, but... gonna shoot my shot and ask.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: nqbshas on Tue, 14 February 2023, 21:47:07
Super nice set. Please include the front print :)

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: Moods on Tue, 14 February 2023, 22:04:00
nostyle? more like yesstyle  :thumb: GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: nostyle_au on Sun, 19 February 2023, 00:06:02
Confirmed a few vendors - Still working on USA, CA and EU.

Added the 1u Super keys  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: mamahuhu on Wed, 22 February 2023, 09:01:28
LGTM, GLWYIC!

Can't wait for your GB  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: offbrandbiscuit on Wed, 22 February 2023, 10:50:23
This looks hard af man, hope this goes to GB. Would love to get a set if it does. Might be interesting to look into getting windowed child kit for it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: guypigeotto on Thu, 23 February 2023, 20:24:17
this is one of the beige sets of all time

having borrowed the set in the past, I can confidently say it’s great and I’m keen to see it in a proper form!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: NSMN on Fri, 24 February 2023, 12:30:05
This is great
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: mr_foggy on Sat, 25 February 2023, 05:22:25
Quote
EU: KEYGEM

hearfelt thanks for this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: nostyle_au on Mon, 27 February 2023, 22:51:34
Quite a major update, so here goes;

Manufacturer:

I was quite successful in finding vendors for majority of regions, however US proved to be difficult. Understandable a large majority of vendors are hesitant to take on GMK projects due to large backlogs of GMK sets that they're yet to receive, and as such would like to see these decrease before working with GMK more. For this reason I began exploring different options in terms of manufacturer/profile.

DCS was considered, I do quite like the profile, and the quality is a known factor. However Signature Plastic's timelines aren't really any better than GMK's at this stage, with many vendors experiencing similar queues. Two other options suggested were DCX and Keykobo. I decided to reach out to Keykobo for information and was offered a sample of an existing set they've run.

This sample arrived Monday and overall I was blown away by the quality, very much comparable to GMK's. These were the observations I reported to the vendors I have been working with:


Based on the other vendor's reactions to the quality, especially for the price, we have decided to go ahead with Keykobo to manufacture this set.

Kitting:

Due to this change in manufacturer it was decided that it would be best to merge the two kits into a single kit. Therefore the bars kit will no longer exist and will instead be included in the base kit.

I'm considering adding UK ISO as it's been heavily requested and won't affect pricing much at all really. This isn't quite decided yet however I will play around with the idea.

I will try to get permission from Cherry to include the Cherry novelty in this kit, however it remains to be seen if they will allow it. Fingers crossed.

Vendors:

I'm happy to announce that vendors are all locked in now, Mekibo is joining and as such the vendor list will be:
OCE: Daily Clack
USA: Mekibo
CA: Apex Keyboards
EU: KEYGEM
UK: Proto[Typist]
SEA: Hex Keyboards

The only uncertainty is if MENA will have a dedicated vendor, Sandkeys is always welcome to run any project I work on but they will decide closer to the GB as to whether or not to join this one.

We are looking to run the Group Buy in late March if all goes well. Pricing to be confirmed soon.

Any questions please drop a comment here or reach out to me on Discord  :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Miami Dawn (Dusk R2)
Post by: elvenmonster on Mon, 27 February 2023, 23:02:48
I think keykobo is really good. Also this means that our sets will deliver much sooner than GMK, so I will support :)
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - Vendors confirmed!
Post by: dcsenjoyer on Tue, 28 February 2023, 03:40:28
kkb bow(kkb x geonworks)
6u is shorter than 6u from gmk(wob)

https://imgur.com/a/9uOgAcf
https://imgur.com/a/Enedp8V

3u has stems for 2u wire
https://imgur.com/a/cnXOlSm
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - Vendors confirmed!
Post by: nostyle_au on Tue, 28 February 2023, 04:02:03
I’ve raised this with them and they’ve fixed this issue since the Geon run. It’s no longer an issue according to them. I’ve attached the photo he sent me of the fixed bars, he’ll also be sending me a 6u sample along with the colour samples I’ve requested.

(https://i.imgur.com/oskr3RC.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - Vendors confirmed!
Post by: VXQN on Tue, 28 February 2023, 04:23:22
Changing manufacturer to Keykobo is a great idea. Add me to the list of people that would love UK ISO. If Cherry logo is a no-no, then how about something else "Miami" like a palm tree or a flamingo?
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - Vendors confirmed!
Post by: mr_foggy on Tue, 28 February 2023, 15:18:14
excited for the manu change. keykobo really is comparable to GMK quality wise, price will benefit too.
nice! day 1 purchase for me.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - Vendors confirmed!
Post by: finalarcadia on Wed, 01 March 2023, 00:28:27
Still in lets go
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - Vendors confirmed!
Post by: involuntarysoul on Wed, 01 March 2023, 12:28:23
kind of hard to see the alpha in the render, it blends in too much, do you have photos of the samples?
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - Vendors confirmed!
Post by: nostyle_au on Wed, 01 March 2023, 16:33:25
kind of hard to see the alpha in the render, it blends in too much, do you have photos of the samples?

Keykobo is providing me with samples for the following:

- Manufacturing capabilities (A different set in different colours showing the quality of their product)
- Colour matching (Colour chips showing that they match GMK 1:1)

As such I don't have a photo of a sample of the exact set from them. There are however photos of R1 from GMK in the original post, Dawn/R2 from Keykobo will be close to identical based on the samples being approved.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: nostyle_au on Sat, 04 March 2023, 14:09:13
We will be going live with a GB from the 30th of March! Pricing will be based off US pricing of 85 USD - regional vendor pricing to follow closer to GB.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: HugoChowsky on Sat, 04 March 2023, 17:53:24
What is the estimated delivery for this?
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: nostyle_au on Sun, 05 March 2023, 05:36:37
What is the estimated delivery for this?

~4 months is the likely timeline based on manufacturing lead-time provided to me by KKB.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: pohpoh on Tue, 07 March 2023, 05:44:44
Unreal nostyle. Wish it stayed gmk but 4 month lead time very cool
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: nostyle_au on Tue, 07 March 2023, 06:26:29
I've received colour samples for all the colours from Keykobo. Examined under multiple different colour temperatures they appear to be identical. Attached is a photo of the samples with stock GMK chips sitting on top.

Furthermore this sample shipment included some bars that were previously raised as problematic. The 6u bar they have provided me is the same size as GMK's offerings, the fixed 3u bar uses correct 3u stab placement.

(https://i.imgur.com/3jfZCvN.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: involuntarysoul on Tue, 07 March 2023, 21:28:47
Unreal nostyle. Wish it stayed gmk but 4 month lead time very cool

same, from youtube sound tests, KKB sounds thin similar to JTK
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: hali on Tue, 07 March 2023, 21:38:39
i think it's cool and i'm probably in for a set
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: synthetics on Tue, 07 March 2023, 22:11:58
I'm down for this Mr. Nostyle  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: tactilesbad on Wed, 08 March 2023, 05:51:31
Unreal nostyle. Wish it stayed gmk but 4 month lead time very cool

same, from youtube sound tests, KKB sounds thin similar to JTK

oh really this set is literally flawless then

in
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: elvenmonster on Wed, 08 March 2023, 07:52:41
Unreal nostyle. Wish it stayed gmk but 4 month lead time very cool

same, from youtube sound tests, KKB sounds thin similar to JTK

Not true. KKB near identical to GMK. Texture and sound wise at least. Its uncanny how similar it is, and the only difference I could make out was that the top face has les rounded corners on the KKB caps.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: involuntarysoul on Wed, 08 March 2023, 18:35:45
Unreal nostyle. Wish it stayed gmk but 4 month lead time very cool

same, from youtube sound tests, KKB sounds thin similar to JTK

Not true. KKB near identical to GMK. Texture and sound wise at least. Its uncanny how similar it is, and the only difference I could make out was that the top face has les rounded corners on the KKB caps.

there is a pretty big difference in sound between KKB and GMK

Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: elvenmonster on Wed, 08 March 2023, 21:46:36
Unreal nostyle. Wish it stayed gmk but 4 month lead time very cool

same, from youtube sound tests, KKB sounds thin similar to JTK

Not true. KKB near identical to GMK. Texture and sound wise at least. Its uncanny how similar it is, and the only difference I could make out was that the top face has les rounded corners on the KKB caps.

there is a pretty big difference in sound between KKB and GMK



Idk man I have them both. Will stand by my statement.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: nostyle_au on Wed, 08 March 2023, 21:52:17
Unreal nostyle. Wish it stayed gmk but 4 month lead time very cool

same, from youtube sound tests, KKB sounds thin similar to JTK

thank god there is still KKB Gigachad
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: involuntarysoul on Thu, 09 March 2023, 00:17:06
Unreal nostyle. Wish it stayed gmk but 4 month lead time very cool

same, from youtube sound tests, KKB sounds thin similar to JTK

thank god there is still KKB Gigachad

do you know what KKB Gigachad is?
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: tactilesbad on Thu, 09 March 2023, 10:33:21
there is a pretty big difference in sound between KKB and GMK


sound tests are snake oil bs
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: nostyle_au on Wed, 15 March 2023, 20:27:28
Due to not being able to get a response from Cherry regarding their logo the novelty key has been swapped out with a palm tree.

(https://imgur.com/PVLZPKi.png)

This was graciously designed by OneCreativeMind and I think it looks awesome!

It will be included in the kit in R4 profile using U9 and MG1 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: SwitchKeys on Wed, 15 March 2023, 20:55:30
That nov is fantastic.
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: tactilesbad on Thu, 16 March 2023, 11:56:00
That nov is fantastic.
now if only we could get a setting sun novelt-

nevermind
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: nostyle_au on Wed, 22 March 2023, 21:20:59
And a matching Hibi artisan too! Anodised aluminium with MG1 infill.

(https://imgur.com/rxO2Oej.png)
Title: Re: [IC] KKB Miami Dawn (Dusk R2) - US pricing and dates confirmed!
Post by: mr_foggy on Thu, 30 March 2023, 03:03:19
congrats on hitting GB!! day one purchase!