You forgot a plate to make it compatible with a 1996 Honda Civic, and one to enable compatibility with a Kohler kitchen sink
Shallower pls (same angle as a RF case without its feet deployed would be nice)
Oh, and how about a replacement plate that allows the use of all 1u housings and Cherry or Costar plate mounted stabs? (preferrable Cherry, but not sure if there's enough clearance for the wire or will it rub on the 1u housing?)
Where is the USB opening placed?
Looks good! I assume no weight should affect the price by quite a bit, so no weight is my preference. Have you thought about colors yet?
You forgot a plate to make it compatible with a 1996 Honda Civic, and one to enable compatibility with a Kohler kitchen sink
I am posting to tell you that I am interested
Stick a bar of brass on the bottom please.
That top plate is t h i c c. Low profile keysets will likely look recessed into the case which is pretty badass and would be awesome with HiPro or SA.
WKL w/ 86u a possibility?
The programmability and the angle (via case rather than risers) seem like decided advantages over Norbaforce, especially if you can offer the WKL variant like Norbaforce. Not to stir the pot, and acknowledging the independent value of each the value of the creators' efforts, for those of us who want to decide which to buy, anyone else have any thoughts on pros/cons of this vs. Norbaforce?
The programmability and the angle (via case rather than risers) seem like decided advantages over Norbaforce, especially if you can offer the WKL variant like Norbaforce. Not to stir the pot, and acknowledging the independent value of each the value of the creators' efforts, for those of us who want to decide which to buy, anyone else have any thoughts on pros/cons of this vs. Norbaforce?
The programmability and the angle (via case rather than risers) seem like decided advantages over Norbaforce, especially if you can offer the WKL variant like Norbaforce. Not to stir the pot, and acknowledging the independent value of each the value of the creators' efforts, for those of us who want to decide which to buy, anyone else have any thoughts on pros/cons of this vs. Norbaforce?
Norbauer's project is super nice but just didn't fulfill what I wanted (nothing against him). I prefer a clean silhouette and just a simpler construction. The height was a aspect too.
His is already happening so you'll get it a lot sooner -- I don't have a lot of details worked out yet. You can have powder coated finishes on his, and it has two possible angles.
I can't really comment as there is obvious bias.
Will the wkl blockers work with the 87u or do I need to start hunting down a 86u while I have the chance?
WKL w/ 86u a possibility?
Yup. Will be doing WKL :)
Thanks all for the support :-*Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bjdw3Cs.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GbKb1o6.png)
Made a few small changes:Might be changing the angle. Stock is 6 degrees without feet up, and 9 degrees with them up. Currently at 8, so might go 7.5 for the middle ground, or just stay true and go 6. Not sure, thoughts?
- Increased outer corner diameter, I think this looks just right.
- Made a WKL model.
- Changed bezel height from 7mm to 6.1mm (stock is 6.05mm).
- Added a small recess for a sticker or something. True to the original board. Might keep it, might not.
Probably will be changing the mounting from standard to top mounted too. Won't make much of a difference in the end result apart from being less complex.
I assume this could pair with other TKL PCBs such as the Filco Majestouch. Am I right?
If I had one. Anyone can confirm this for me? Much obliged.I assume this could pair with other TKL PCBs such as the Filco Majestouch. Am I right?
If you can use the stock RF case with what you want, then yes.
If I had one. Anyone can confirm this for me? Much obliged.I assume this could pair with other TKL PCBs such as the Filco Majestouch. Am I right?
If you can use the stock RF case with what you want, then yes.
Alright, thanks.MoreIf I had one. Anyone can confirm this for me? Much obliged.I assume this could pair with other TKL PCBs such as the Filco Majestouch. Am I right?
If you can use the stock RF case with what you want, then yes.
Does not work. Spacing is different. Stick to the existing Filco cases on the market
was planning to buy norbauer, but this throws a wrench into my plans. Probably gonna hang around and see what happens with this. Much prefer the aesthetics of slant over the risers
was planning to buy norbauer, but this throws a wrench into my plans. Probably gonna hang around and see what happens with this. Much prefer the aesthetics of slant over the risers
same boat
although i usually have the feet up on my RF so if this is 6deg then i dunno
The terminology is confusing me :'( Feet up meaning using the stock higher angle?
It'd be helpful if everyone noted whether they use the flat or raised angle with the stock case :thumb:
I'll tally everything up and figure which I'll go with. There is always the possibility of offering 2 bottom pieces with alternating angles.
+1 for 6 degrees
I知 in the camp that really loves the current Realforce badge. Would there be any way to transplant from the original case, or source a replica Realforce badge??
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I do feel like the "forehead" looks a little bit empty without the Realforce logo, perhaps someone with some graphics design experience could produce a vectorised version and get some metallic stickers made? (kinda like all the metallic HHKB stickers you can get from Taobao/Aliexpress)
I think that would complement the aesthetic design of the case and provide a nice visual point of emphasis on an otherwise quite plain top bezel.
For those who own both Realforce RGB and a Topre with more conventional sliders, is it possible to swap them without the plastic housings or do they work only with these one. I don't want to use a keyboard with a plastic housing. Such a downgrade in my opinion...
With the upcoming Realforce RGB TKL and Realforce R2 TKL that are going to be selling by Topre next year, can we expect a custom case for them as well? Although, the actuation point changer is quite useless for me, it a good addition to their keyboards and both models share the same case and bottom row (more standard layout), which is a big plus.
For those who own both Realforce RGB and a Topre with more conventional sliders, is it possible to swap them without the plastic housings or do they work only with these one. I don't want to use a keyboard with a plastic housing. Such a downgrade in my opinion...
There are a few things that need to be decided, so to save people posting every time I ask something, I'll just put all the "pending" things here:
- 6 degrees/flat, 9 degrees/raised, or in between?
- Recess for sticker/badge, something custom, or nothing?
- Brass weight?
- Dip switch cutout?
6 degree.
no branding.
no weight.
no dip.
6 degree.
no branding.
no weight.
no dip.
I think 6 degree is most important. How many are using the RF with feet up?
There are a few things that need to be decided, so to save people posting every time I ask something, I'll just put all the "pending" things here:
- 6 degrees/flat, 9 degrees/raised, or in between?
- Recess for sticker/badge, something custom, or nothing?
- Brass weight?
- Dip switch cutout?
For everyone voting for weight, keep in mind its +50 in price.bring it on, I'm game
There are a few things that need to be decided, so to save people posting every time I ask something, I'll just put all the "pending" things here:
- 6 degrees/flat, 9 degrees/raised, or in between?
IN BETWEEN
- Recess for sticker/badge, something custom, or nothing?
I'D LOVE THE OPTION OF A BADGE WITH "NOXARY-RF" OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AS LONG AS IT'S MINIMALISTIC AND LOOKS DOPE . WHEN IT COMES TO A REALFORCE, I WANT IT TO LOOK EVIL AND MYSTERIOUS IN A SOMEWHAT LO-FI WAY, SO THE BADGE HAS TO WORK WITHIN THAT AESTHETIC
- Brass weight?
YES!!! I SEE THIS AS CRITICAL. HEAVIER & BRASSIER = BETTER
- Dip switch cutout?
NO.
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Hey, got a question for everyone -
I have concerns with long prototyping turnaround with my current manufacturer, it'd delay this for a month upwards. The reason I would prototype is so I know everything physically works. We already know the quality with the manufacturer is very good, so that isn't a thing that I'd be testing.
My current thoughts are to either look locally for a CNC aluminum prototype, or to look into 3D printing. Not sure whether I'd anodize the aluminum prototype, as it would take time for no physical change. Only downside is that people are usually judging whether to join a buy because of what the finished product looks like, and I won't be able to show that. Let me know your thoughts please.
In short: alternative prototyping to save time, prototype may be "uglier", but no massive waiting periods. Thoughts?
Hey, got a question for everyone -
I have concerns with long prototyping turnaround with my current manufacturer, it'd delay this for a month upwards. The reason I would prototype is so I know everything physically works. We already know the quality with the manufacturer is very good, so that isn't a thing that I'd be testing.
My current thoughts are to either look locally for a CNC aluminum prototype, or to look into 3D printing. Not sure whether I'd anodize the aluminum prototype, as it would take time for no physical change. Only downside is that people are usually judging whether to join a buy because of what the finished product looks like, and I won't be able to show that. Let me know your thoughts please.
In short: alternative prototyping to save time, prototype may be "uglier", but no massive waiting periods. Thoughts?
Hey, got a question for everyone -
I have concerns with long prototyping turnaround with my current manufacturer, it'd delay this for a month upwards. The reason I would prototype is so I know everything physically works. We already know the quality with the manufacturer is very good, so that isn't a thing that I'd be testing.
My current thoughts are to either look locally for a CNC aluminum prototype, or to look into 3D printing. Not sure whether I'd anodize the aluminum prototype, as it would take time for no physical change. Only downside is that people are usually judging whether to join a buy because of what the finished product looks like, and I won't be able to show that. Let me know your thoughts please.
In short: alternative prototyping to save time, prototype may be "uglier", but no massive waiting periods. Thoughts?
Hey, got a question for everyone -
I have concerns with long prototyping turnaround with my current manufacturer, it'd delay this for a month upwards. The reason I would prototype is so I know everything physically works. We already know the quality with the manufacturer is very good, so that isn't a thing that I'd be testing.
My current thoughts are to either look locally for a CNC aluminum prototype, or to look into 3D printing. Not sure whether I'd anodize the aluminum prototype, as it would take time for no physical change. Only downside is that people are usually judging whether to join a buy because of what the finished product looks like, and I won't be able to show that. Let me know your thoughts please.
In short: alternative prototyping to save time, prototype may be "uglier", but no massive waiting periods. Thoughts?
I'm fine with raw aluminum for prototype. LZ boards have run this way, no? Just show the raw cnc case and show images of the finish from the x60 stating they will be done by the same factory.
design:
-do not like the "realforce" logo cutout. Would much prefer a clean front.
-have you considered making the side edges thicker?
design:
-do not like the "realforce" logo cutout. Would much prefer a clean front.
-have you considered making the side edges thicker?
Rest looks really good :thumb:
Sent off the files for the first prototype last night. I'm hoping it'll be possible to get it before I go to the UK meetup later next month (on the 24th).
This will hopefully be the 1st of the 2 prototypes I plan to do. This one is mainly getting the fundamentals down (plate fitment, bezel fitment, general PCB component clearance, etc). The 2nd prototype will focus on refining everything (such as typing feel, breakout board fitment, USB hole, etc).
Hopefully there will be pictures very soon :))
The 2nd prototype will focus on refining everything (such as typing feel, brass weight, breakout board fitment, USB hole, etc).
I知 very interested!
Im sticking around,
I'm interested!
The 2nd prototype will focus on refining everything (such as typing feel, brass weight, breakout board fitment, USB hole, etc).
Don't let the underside be a blank slate; it has to shine :'(
We'll be attempting to do a fully custom PCB. It'll take a while, but ultimately it's what everyone wants.
I think for now, V1 will be a USB-C adapter (like the Norbatouch), and the case. We can go hard with V2 ;D
This isn't deadWhat's the benefit of using RF RGB slider housings as opposed to the regular opaque black RF ones?
First of all, massive thank you to Wetherbee for 1) motivating me, and 2) sending me two boards to reverse engineer and make things for.
Here is the result of way too much work:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LA4pJZ6.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UoiCvkK.jpg)
This is a plate that uses RGB housings & stabilizers, and uses the 86u PCB & case.
Some changes are needed, but functionally, it's great. This enables so much more, so I'm very happy it's turned out as expected first time.
After extensive testing with JTK, Novatouch, Adapter-X, Plum87, and Realforce RGB MX slider swapsOff topic: which MX sliders did you think were better -- NVT or RGB? Or was there no difference?
This isn't dead :pWow. All your boards need to have bezels like this to show off the quality
First of all, massive thank you to Wetherbee for 1) motivating me, and 2) sending me two boards to reverse engineer and make things for.
Here is the result of way too much work:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LA4pJZ6.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UoiCvkK.jpg)
This is a plate that uses RGB housings & stabilizers, and uses the 86u PCB & case.
Some changes are needed, but functionally, it's great. This enables so much more, so I'm very happy it's turned out as expected first time.
This isn't dead :p
First of all, massive thank you to Wetherbee for 1) motivating me, and 2) sending me two boards to reverse engineer and make things for.
Here is the result of way too much work:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LA4pJZ6.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UoiCvkK.jpg)
This is a plate that uses RGB housings & stabilizers, and uses the 86u PCB & case.
Some changes are needed, but functionally, it's great. This enables so much more, so I'm very happy it's turned out as expected first time.
This isn't dead :p
First of all, massive thank you to Wetherbee for 1) motivating me, and 2) sending me two boards to reverse engineer and make things for.
Here is the result of way too much work:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LA4pJZ6.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UoiCvkK.jpg)
This is a plate that uses RGB housings & stabilizers, and uses the 86u PCB & case.
Some changes are needed, but functionally, it's great. This enables so much more, so I'm very happy it's turned out as expected first time.
This is very promising, I'm really interested to hear how it feels!
I assume this is going to require custom bent stab wires for the spacebar? I know the 86u uses a 6u wire but I have no experience with the RF RGB.
What's the benefit of using RF RGB slider housings as opposed to the regular opaque black RF ones?After extensive testing with JTK, Novatouch, Adapter-X, Plum87, and Realforce RGB MX slider swapsOff topic: which MX sliders did you think were better -- NVT or RGB? Or was there no difference?
(P.S. Not talking about stabs in either question.)
Those mounting points look like they were a pain to achieve properly, great work!
thats what i call progress!
sidenote: you say its using rgb housings, does this render that specific plate design useless for 87u rf housings? or are the interchangeable
Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh
Let me touch this beautyyyyy!!!
woa
man i need to pickup an 86u just for the pcb
somehow
Could do Costar stabs like the Royal Kludge boards (Cherry plate-mounted might work too)
Could do Costar stabs like the Royal Kludge boards (Cherry plate-mounted might work too)
nice
nice
wait, did you finally find an imsto set?
gdi it quoted the wrong ****ing post. im dumb.
Off topic: which MX sliders did you think were better -- NVT or RGB? Or was there no difference?
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It works ;D
Still don't have a 7u wire, and I forgot the ground so it's jammed into one of the screws, but otherwise it's great. Really different sound profile, feel is a bit different too but would have to try side by side.
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It works ;D
Still don't have a 7u wire, and I forgot the ground so it's jammed into one of the screws, but otherwise it's great. Really different sound profile, feel is a bit different too but would have to try side by side.
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It works ;D
Still don't have a 7u wire, and I forgot the ground so it's jammed into one of the screws, but otherwise it's great. Really different sound profile, feel is a bit different too but would have to try side by side.
I think for now, V1 will be a USB-C adapter (like the Norbatouch), and the case. We can go hard with V2 ;D
I know I've discussed this with you at some length, but just to emphasize my excitement - I'm absolutely down for V1!!! ESPECIALLY if it is plate-compatible with the Realforce 87U and 86U PCBs. I'd also pick up a few extra plates to replace some of my rusted ones (yes, Realforce plates rust after only a few years - my dream would be a nice PVD-coated bronze mirror or colorful anodized aluminum plate option with the same tight tolerances and thickness of the original). Since the XRF will be the first Realforce case to include a custom plate, you will also get a lot of interest in your plates from buyers of the Norbaforce and TGR-Zooey as well, assuming the plate will maintain the stock dimensions for compatible mounting. I suspect that, for this and other reasons, the plate by itself will already be a popular product even for users who just want to upgrade their stock Realforce. Throw in the awesomeness of the XRF design and you will have an absolutely killer groupbuy - potential to be the groupbuy of the year which is saying a lot since 2018 is turning out to be insane for this hobby.
Plate cutouts/options for MX stabilizers would also solve the only remaining issue with stem-swapping to MX. After extensive testing with JTK, Novatouch, Adapter-X, Plum87, and Realforce RGB MX slider swaps, I've found that the Realforce RGB stabs are the best solution for stabilizing MX keys on Topre, but that requires cut-outs in the plate for the stabs to attach to. Cherry plate-mount stabs interfere with Topre housings (the part under the plate) and they were designed to work with a different plate thickness than the Realforce. Costar stabs should have the same issue but may be more compatible (indeed, the Plum87 clone uses what appears to be plate-mounted costar stabs but I suspect it isn't that easy to port this design to the Realforce nor is it as functional or quiet as the under-plate RGB stabs designed by Topre). Novatouch stem swaps/housing swaps also work well for some, but GMK keys will slam into the housings on the Enter/Shift/Backspace keys causing a plastic-on-plastic clacking sound, although this can be fixed by filing/shaving down the Novatouch housing (or just using a regular Realforce housing and drilling holes in it, ugly buy effective). SA keys are even worse with the Novatouch - they don't hit the housing like GMK but some of the unstabalized larger keys can completely pop off just with regular typing because they are only attached on one of their three stems and the fit tolerances aren't always tight. I've had to use cling wrap/saran wrap on the sliders to keep SA keys seated on the right shift, for example. Similar issues have been posted on Geekhack and deskthority with SA keys. MX stabilizers would solve all of these issues.
The only challenge with MX stab support is that you would need to include a 7u (86U) and/or 6u (87U) custom stabilizer wire with the plate, as the stock Realforce RGB spacebar wire is 6.25u wide which isn't compatible with either the 87U or 86U PCB. If given the option, the 86U + 7u wire would be my preference for proper Tsangan support and SA set compatibility (not to mention winkeyless), but the 87U + 6u wire would work with most popular GMK sets now that they come with 6u center-stem spacebars. Ideally both options would be available on one plate but that will depend on the plate design and if the various options interfere with each other or not (options being one or more of either 86U Topre, 86U MX, 87U Topre, and/or 87U MX). The tricky design part is that MX stabs all work with with 1u Topre housings, but users who will not be using MX but who stick with Topre or HiPro keys will still need support for the larger 2u housings on the Backspace, Enter, and Shift keys of both 86U and 87U (the odd 1.5u housing on the 86U Caps Lock can just be easily replaced with a 1u housing as it accomplishes nothing). The design challenge is to see if all of this can be done with a universal plate, a modular plate, or with two or more different plate options. I have faith though that a solution is workable, though there is some trickiness (87U has holes for LEDs and a badly designed left control housing, both issues which are not present on the 86U). I also haven't even mentioned (on purpose) the 89U/91U JIS or 88U ISO layouts which are much less popular but which likely have a small but vocal following. I believe that 99% of Geekhack users would be satisfied with 86U/87U coverage. There will always be that one weeb with a Nissho keyset who will be vocal about supporting the JIS layout and some viking from Norway who threatens to burn down your house if you don't support ISO.
So far I haven't found the need to reprogram any keys on the Realforce, so I'm fine for the V1 to not be programmable, but I understand that there are many who like Dvorak/Colemak or other unique layouts on a TKL and they will eventually want it. The V2 with a custom PCB would of course require the ability to custom program it and will be very interesting but it sounds like more R&D will be needed, as many have tried and failed on this route but I'm sure some brilliant PCB designer could figure it out.
I think that your plan is fantastic. I fully endorse going down the V1 route with a later V2 as a stretch effort. They have the potential to be very different products, as the V2 would give you complete freedom to do things people have long felt were impossible (HHKB case, for example). I also like that the XRF will benefit from many lessons learned on the earlier Noxary releases and the opportunity to do some custom anodes and cerakoting can really differentiate the product. For me, though, the opportunity to get the plate right is the biggest selling point and I'm hoping we'll be able to pick up extra plates for all those Realforce users out there who have issues with rusting or issues with converting to MX in a way that is truly satisfying. Even a die-hard MX aficionado will tell you that the best MX tactile switch will never compare to the tactility of BKE Topre. We just need to bridge that last gap that is the plate and the stabilized key support for MX compatibility so folks can use their custom keysets without compromising. It would also be awesome if the plate was available in PVD (if brass) or in various anodes (if aluminum) to enable custom a e s t h e t i c s. The challenge there is getting the tolerances perfect so that the Realforce slider housings are tight-fitting to the plate. Too thin and users complain of a "rattly" and wobbly feeling like the stock Novatouch. Too thick and housings won't attach/sit properly.
Anyways, keep up the amazing work. Despite my enthusiasm for the more technical aspects of the design and compatibility, the form factor and overall design of the XRF case itself is truly beautiful. This is a great time to be a Topre fan. We've been waiting a very, very long time for custom groupbuys to show Topre some love. Lets make 2018 the year that Topre fans rejoice.
Since there was a post here, tiny update:
Been working on the Topre housings themselves, got my first 3D printed prototype but the resolution was too small. I have no spare funds right now, so when I do, I'll be ordering higher resolution prints.
This'll all loop around as I need to understand Topre if I want to do this properly.
I made the adjustments needed with the RF plate, but as with the housings, I have no money, so that can wait too.
So basically, waiting on funding, and then more progress will be made.
Since there was a post here, tiny update:
Been working on the Topre housings themselves, got my first 3D printed prototype but the resolution was too small. I have no spare funds right now, so when I do, I'll be ordering higher resolution prints.
This'll all loop around as I need to understand Topre if I want to do this properly.
I made the adjustments needed with the RF plate, but as with the housings, I have no money, so that can wait too.
So basically, waiting on funding, and then more progress will be made.
Dude you should just say how much funding you need and throw up a gofundme or something. I'm sure people will kick in towards. I would.
So some approximate timelines from now...
I want to get 280/220 in group buy, so this is my current goal. I'm expecting to have the samples in a couple weeks, so after that I have no more samples in the queue - which puts this next.
I'll order a sample of the case, which again will take a couple of weeks, so realistically, I can expect to have it early June. I'll see what I need to change on the design, if it's major, another sample will be ordered, but if it's minor then it's pretty much group buy time...
On the PCB side, Rozakiin has started work, and I'm sure we'll get some prototypes ordered fairly soon. The PCB probably won't be available for V1 of XRF, but definitely in V2. It is my ultimate end goal with the RF concept.
So still moving, just slowly :p
nice
any more info on the PCB? or too early?
Going with fillet.
PCB has arrived, currently in testing/programming :p
Since 280/220 samples are on the way, I will be ordering the XRF samples when these two arrive.
Going with fillet.
PCB has arrived, currently in testing/programming :p
Since 280/220 samples are on the way, I will be ordering the XRF samples when these two arrive.
Looking forward to seeing the prototypes, keep up the good work!
will the plate be compatible with the black housing of the 86U realforce or only with RGB housing? I apologize if it has already been asked but I lost it
will the plate be compatible with the black housing of the 86U realforce or only with RGB housing? I apologize if it has already been asked but I lost it
The plates are designed for the Realforce case.
Planning these plates so far:
- Black housings 86U
- Black housings 87U
- RGB housings 86U
I might add some more, but unsure right now.
I don't plan to do any plates for RGB boards for now, they aren't popular enough.
will the plate be compatible with the black housing of the 86U realforce or only with RGB housing? I apologize if it has already been asked but I lost it
The plates are designed for the Realforce case.
Planning these plates so far:
- Black housings 86U
- Black housings 87U
- RGB housings 86U
I might add some more, but unsure right now.
I don't plan to do any plates for RGB boards for now, they aren't popular enough.
is there a realforce rgb 86u? I lost it
ah ok perfect, at the moment I dont own housing and stab rgb and take a realforce rgb just for them mmhhhh.....I will think about it.
Thank you
will the plate be compatible with the black housing of the 86U realforce or only with RGB housing? I apologize if it has already been asked but I lost it
The plates are designed for the Realforce case.
Planning these plates so far:
- Black housings 86U
- Black housings 87U
- RGB housings 86U
I might add some more, but unsure right now.
I don't plan to do any plates for RGB boards for now, they aren't popular enough.
will the plate be compatible with the black housing of the 86U realforce or only with RGB housing? I apologize if it has already been asked but I lost it
The plates are designed for the Realforce case.
Planning these plates so far:
- Black housings 86U
- Black housings 87U
- RGB housings 86U
I might add some more, but unsure right now.
I don't plan to do any plates for RGB boards for now, they aren't popular enough.
So would the plate support 87U & RGB housing combination? And I assumed, but would like to get your confirmation, that the LCtrl cut out is square already right?
will the plate be compatible with the black housing of the 86U realforce or only with RGB housing? I apologize if it has already been asked but I lost it
The plates are designed for the Realforce case.
Planning these plates so far:
- Black housings 86U
- Black housings 87U
- RGB housings 86U
I might add some more, but unsure right now.
I don't plan to do any plates for RGB boards for now, they aren't popular enough.
So would the plate support 87U & RGB housing combination? And I assumed, but would like to get your confirmation, that the LCtrl cut out is square already right?
Nope, sizing is different. Black housing is longer and thinner.
Still unsure about that cutout.
ah ok perfect, at the moment I dont own housing and stab rgb and take a realforce rgb just for them mmhhhh.....I will think about it.
Thank you
I think if you have the funds to, you should, but otherwise it isn't too maybe. You do gain stock smoothness and MX functionality.
Should get the sample in 10-14 days :thumb:
will the plate be compatible with the black housing of the 86U realforce or only with RGB housing? I apologize if it has already been asked but I lost it
The plates are designed for the Realforce case.
Planning these plates so far:
- Black housings 86U
- Black housings 87U
- RGB housings 86U
I might add some more, but unsure right now.
I don't plan to do any plates for RGB boards for now, they aren't popular enough.
So would the plate support 87U & RGB housing combination? And I assumed, but would like to get your confirmation, that the LCtrl cut out is square already right?
Nope, sizing is different. Black housing is longer and thinner.
Still unsure about that cutout.
Please be square. Please be square. Please be square. Please be square. Please be square.
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Sneak peek :-*
Said they should finish Monday (30th), so I might have it late next week.
can you do a plate for the 88u?
Just from reading previous replies, am I correct in assuming that this won't work on a white case 87u because the black 87u is a different size?
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Some quick pictures. Will test fit everything later as I have to swap housings/PCBs over and too much effort rn :p
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Some quick pictures. Will test fit everything later as I have to swap housings/PCBs over and too much effort rn :p
Looking good!
You have any idea on the pricing of the brass/PVD plate yet?
Nope. It was more of a test to see if it's feasible :)
Woah yes. I壇 wanna stick an IBM or terminal board sticker on that top chin.. (make the chin larger..?) :PShow Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398457828806754314/476422897334747137/image.jpg)
Full picture of the case
It's more a proof of concept right now though :)) Messed up the screw sizes for the plate, which means the screw heads are too small for the plate. Not a problem though, everything else has gone as planned and I know what needs adjusting for the V2 prototype.
Will continue working on refining everything to perfection :p
How hard would it be to support iso with the case? I think that the iso board has the blockers in the same place although it may look kind of goofy its a compromise i'd be able to live with. I would really love to have iso support.
any possibility of a case for the realforce 23u numpad in a design similar to this?
Wanted to post a quick update - will be ordering the daughterboard prototype in a couple weeks. Getting a working daughterboard is the last step before starting the group buy. Probably will have it working in a 5-6 weeks. Then I'll be happy to start a group buy for it.
As I have it scheduled now, it'd be these three colors: Lightning Silver; Hyper Red; and Meteorite Gray. I'd still like to do a smaller GB, maybe 20-40 units. Approx timeline would be start late July/early August, delivered in late October. Unsure about price, I need to decide unit count (40 is easy due to the supply chain that's currently set up [more units, cheaper GB price]).
If we gather more buyers, WinKey would be possible:)
So lets register our interest here, we need WK! :)
I imagine that by changing the design the plate will no longer be compatible with the original case, is it right?
If we gather more buyers, WinKey would be possible:)
So lets register our interest here, we need WK! :)
no
That would be up to the Xondat.If we gather more buyers, WinKey would be possible:)
So lets register our interest here, we need WK! :)
no
Yes
That would be up to the Xondat.If we gather more buyers, WinKey would be possible:)
So lets register our interest here, we need WK! :)
no
Yes
Winkey would definitely be nice, not everyone has access to an 86u and 87u with WKL blockers is not a very good combo in my opinion.
But on the other hand, you have to understand that adding more options would increase the overall risks both for the buyer and the GB runner especially.
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I'll do a poll before the buy runs, but I'd really like to keep it to one top version.>WKL
Reasons:
- 3 versions to 6 versions
- Less pieces of each top piece for same overall number meaning higher price
- A poll I ran showed 75% WKL, 25% WK
Is this project still going live? Because I really really want that shiny mounting plate
Is this project still going live? Because I really really want that shiny mounting plate
Withdrawn, I thought this was the full size.
it looks amazing. I am joining for sure. but when will this happen??
Also, let there be typing demos for diff plate materials plz?
Oh and the daughterboard should arrive next week. That's really the last piece in the puzzle, but still want to produce the V2 prototype :thumb:
What's the status on this IC?
I wanna spend monies on this! Please let me!
:thumb: :thumb:
one question, will this fit any other tkl pcbs/plates? like how 60% keyboard work.
I want this!
ETA: WinKey preferred, if that's even an option at this point. If WKL I'll wait.
Yeah this is a day 1 cop. Looks much sleeker then the norbaforce.
Do you have any renders for the gray version?
Colors aren't confirmed yet, finalizing those in the coming days. :)OK, thanks for the info. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a grey version. Would look so good with the stock-RF-caps as well with tons of other sets.
Would this work with the Realforce RGB?
Will this be compatible with Realforce R2 RGB TKL ?
I am interested in this as well, I'll wait until the price to tell you if I'm in or not. Anyways, looks like a great product!
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
unlimited run??
Does the GB sell the Mounting plate alone?
I was going for the Meteorite Gray but looking at the renders it's looking very very dark.
The Blue Gray though is looking super nice. :eek: Might have to go with that one instead...
I was going for the Meteorite Gray but looking at the renders it's looking very very dark.
The Blue Gray though is looking super nice. :eek: Might have to go with that one instead...
Wait wait wait...
I wanted met grey as well, also like blue, but don't get put off by those renders, met grey is not that dark.
Its like this one:Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398457828806754314/476422897334747137/image.jpg)
@XONDAT - please confirm
No plate in this buy, although I may do something on the side.
No plate in this buy, although I may do something on the side.
Awww.... but still I would be waiting eagerly :D
Please be soon, please be soon, please be soon, please be soon......
No plate in this buy, although I may do something on the side.
Awww.... but still I would be waiting eagerly :D
Please be soon, please be soon, please be soon, please be soon......
Honestly it'd be best to do as a whole separate buy. I'm going to prototype some new plates with slightly different dimensions and see how that goes :thumb: