Awesome work!
Totally in love with your Layout Khaannn! <3<3
I would honestly much prefer your Arrowed 60% over other options like the WhiteFox Layout and I'm pretty much sold on using this for at least one of my upcoming builds! :)
Really liking the arrow key placement and the fact it stays true to 60% size to fit all kinds of standard cases! :thumb:
Only suggestion I have is going with a split Backspace (R2 Backspace) for cleaner looks (and in my case personal preference)...
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as well as changing alt, ctrl and fn placements because ISO international requires two alt (alt + alt gr),
and my poker has gotten me used to having Fn on capslock... ;)
Edit:
Keyboard Editor Link (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_c=%2339e3af&t=%23863a91&a:7%3B&=Esc&_c=%23a2a4a6&a:5%3B&=!%0A1&=%2F@%0A2&=%23%0A3&=$%0A4&=%25%0A5&=%5E%0A6&=%2F&%0A7&=*%0A8&=(%0A9&=)%0A0&=%2F_%0A-&=+%0A%2F=&=%7C%0A%5C&_c=%235b5c5e&t=%2339e3af&a:7%3B&=Delete%3B&@_f:9&w:1.5%3B&=%E2%86%B9&_c=%23a2a4a6&t=%23863a91&f:3%3B&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&_a:5%3B&=%7B%0A%5B&=%7D%0A%5D&_c=%235b5c5e&t=%2339e3af&a:7&f:9&w:1.5%3B&=%E2%8C%AB%3B&@_f:3&w:1.75%3B&=Fn&_c=%23a2a4a6&t=%23863a91%3B&=A&=S&=D&_n:true%3B&=F&=G&=H&_n:true%3B&=J&=K&=L&_a:5%3B&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&=%22%0A'&_c=%2339e3af&a:7&w:2.25%3B&=%E2%86%B5%20Enter%3B&@_c=%235b5c5e&t=%2339e3af&w:2.25%3B&=%E2%87%A7%20Shift&_c=%23a2a4a6&t=%23863a91%3B&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&_a:5%3B&=%3C%0A,&=%3E%0A.&=%3F%0A%2F%2F&_c=%235b5c5e&t=%2339e3af&a:7%3B&=%E2%86%91&_w:1.75%3B&=%E2%87%A7%20Shift%3B&@_x:1.25&w:1.25%3B&=Control&_w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_c=%23a2a4a6&t=%23863a91&w:6.25%3B&=&_c=%235b5c5e&t=%2339e3af&w:1.25%3B&=Alt&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92)
Thanks a lot FoC_Tow,
Your layout looks great too, recently I gathered all the GMK Keys I have, to try and assemble the best looking keycap layout, it was very close to yours (Looked like this, for some reason I neglected to take an actual photo: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f16e040784f0adbb5720)
Practically tho, as a bit of a spoiler, arrows without gaps are hard to get used to, so Varmilo VA68M tempted me a lot, it doesn't stay within 60%, yet it has an aluminium case and arrows with some gap
If the case was black and if the stabs were costar ones, I would give that keyboard a real chance (since hasu's usb-usb converter theoretically handles programming, it could work)
My next layout trial is going to be this: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/1a87c0013c86bb9ca963 (both look much better in person :)
- Tackles a bottom row mis-click issue I have, Alt is very functional for me, I usually can't recover after using Alt, instead of Cmd+S, I press Alt+S, adding a gap there will theoretically help, Ctrl isn't very useful anyway
- I can use Dolch keycaps heavily, I like Dolch, with other layouts I end up using too much color, going to use a stepped 1.75 blank, instead of the white "Control" I always end up using
- The arrows are a bit challenging, couldn't decide what to use yet, I can continue using 1.25 blanks, or retry a 1u gapped arrow block again, I'm also thinking of using the 1u arrows in 1.25 slots, so I will use a standard PCB, but the arrows will stay far apart, I've tried arrows in those positions, they are extremely comfortable, yet they are a pain to look at :)
Anyway, I just wanted to share the current state of my 60% journey in case any of my experiences help you, all of these keyboards are practically usable, I'm especially in love with the latest one, I've settled with it, yet I'm a bit bored, so I'm going to try and 3d-print the plate with bronzefill filament and attempt a gapped+arrowed bronze/dolch 60% next
It looks pretty bad, but if you don't use the right shift heavily, I suggest you consider enlarging the arrows or placing them with a bit of gap
I like the idea behind your layout, but I wouldn't use it for two reasons:
1) I use right Shift(probably even more than the left one)
2) I need right Alt
But since most of my ideas involve either lefthand tenkey or other form of moving the keyboard's center away fro the mouse anyway, I decided to screw around with it.
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KLE raw data:
["/\nF10","*\nF11","-\nF12","Num Lock","Esc","!\n1","@\n2","#\n3","$\n4","%\n5","^\n6","&\n7","*\n8","(\n9",")\n0","_\n-","+\n=","~\n`","|\n\\\n\n\nInsert"],
["7\nF7","8\nF8","9\nF9",{h:2},"+",{w:1.5},"Tab","Q","W","E","R","T","Y","U","I","O","P","{\n[","}\n]",{w:1.5},"Backspace\n\n\n\nDelete"],
["4\nF4","5\nF5","6\nF6",{x:1,w:1.75},"Ctrl","A","S","D","F","G","H","J","K","L",":\n;","\"\n'",{w:2.25},"Enter\n\n\n\nPrint"],
["1\nF1","2\nF2","3\nF3","↑\n\n\n\nPgUp",{w:2.25},"Shift","Z","X","C","V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{w:2.75},"Shift"],
["0\nCaps",".\nScroll","←\n\n\n\nHome","↓\n\n\n\nPgDn","→\n\n\n\nEnd",{x:1.5,w:1.25},"Fn",{w:1.25},"Alt",{a:7,w:4},"",{a:4,w:1.25},"Alt",{w:1.25},"Fn",{w:1.25},"Meta",{x:1.25},"ISO Next"]
Not prefect, but I might go further in this direction. Thank you for inspiration!
Thanks, and thanks for sharing, pretty interesting
The right mouse space is indeed pretty useful, I've considered going back to a TKL a couple of times, but I'm too used to having the mouse closer to the keyboard, so practically, once you gain that space, it's hard to go back
If you are not bound by the 60% rectangle (mainly advantage is 60% cases and 60% PCB's) - and if you don't really need the numpad, I think a laptop-keyboard-like mechanical might be the way to go
So there would be 6 rows instead of 5 but only arrow_left/down/right on the 6th row
(Just remembered this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60268.0 - like this but without the enlarged bottom row and with ~standard keycaps)
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Another wicked idea is to build a standalone arrow controller, a keyboard that just has arrows, it's elevated and angled - it would latch onto 60%'s from behind, near the backspace