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Offline ironpup

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An open letter to BroCaps
« on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 18:48:31 »
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« Last Edit: Mon, 23 September 2019, 22:21:22 by ironpup »

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 18:53:03 »
Stopped reading at K3's original designs, rofl

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 18:54:55 »
Stopped reading at K3's original designs, rofl

Haven't read his letter entirely yet, but I think he might be referring to the Lobo cap, not the copied Bros/Clacks.
« Last Edit: Sun, 25 October 2015, 18:58:38 by Sinanju »

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 18:57:49 »
After seeing how a lot of the reddit community has treated Bro Caps over the past few months, I applaud his decision.

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:04:35 »
Another incredibly self-entitled post, that seems to be the norm.


Notice that you make this all about YOU. This decision isn't about YOU, it's not about anyone else. It's about ME. So please kindly step down from your high horse.
I am not a company that has to provide customers with an expected product amount, or set goals of sales, etc. I am one person, me, myself and I. Occasionally my
mother helps me out when I was trying to provide to a larger audience. I decided to step back from that, as it was taking time away from my family and personal
things. Sorry if that rubs you the wrong way, but hey, as I said: FEEL FREE TO BUY FROM OTHER ARTISANS, nobody is forcing you to buy anything from me.


It's pretty ridiculous how you and several others seem to feel I asked you to donate an organ. I asked you to meet a fairly simple post requirement here. If you don't
like my rules, don't participate. What was the purpose or expectation, really, to posting this? I already covered each and every point, that you and others chose to ignore
because it didn't meet your personal expectations of what you think I should do, according to you.


To your points of me copying k3? Just.... lol. Really, there is no other expression that I can think of for that, and that's the last I will speak of that piece of trash.


My actions aren't dividing anything. Again, it's my own personal decision to do this, and I don't owe you or anyone else an explanation. If you want to go and buy
terrible versions of my caps from an untalented thief, feel free to do so.


How much are you over-doing this? I mean, seriously. 100 posts on geekhack = end of the world times?


So you could take the time to post this, expressing your dislike for my own personal decision, that actually doesn't really affect anyone other than self-entitled complainers,
but you couldn't take the time to participate in discussions or the community here? Ridiculous, if you ask me.


Hey - don't buy my products, and spread the word! I am not here as a business, I am still a hobbyist and I love this forum.


Why don't I like r/mk? Go look at the scathing commentary and vileness that exists. On top of it being managed by a narcissistic forum troll, that supports counterfeiters.
Hell, he even stickied a k3 sale post once. Sorry, but I don't want to be a part of that.


So tl;dr, sorry to see you go, but my decision is final.


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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:08:10 »
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:08:57 »
op...are you mentally ill in some way? or is this a reddit meme?
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:10:26 »
Well someone just got rustled.
Maybe he does deserve a Jimmy.

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:12:57 »
pretty sure Bro has stated in the past that he's not running a business

edit: just read his reply itt, yeah

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:15:12 »
Shouldn't this be in off-topic?

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:15:19 »
"You, as one of few real leaders in this community, have let us down."

Us?


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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:16:29 »
Shouldn't this be in off-topic?

It is kinda keycap related.  I don't see a problem with it being in the keycaps forum myself.

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:17:00 »
Not that I agree with the letter. just saying it isn't really 'off topic' imo

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:17:42 »
Honestly it just seems like a rage post designed to get more people to say "I agree" and draw a gathering to me

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:19:30 »
"You, as one of few real leaders in this community, have let us down."

Us?


I am sorry I let you down, as your community leader



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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:20:46 »
I'm pretty new here, but I think it's very strange how people feel entitled to things that belong to an individual. It's not some corporate decision you can even rally against. It's one guy's choice to do something a certain way. Sure, it may affect people - but let's be real here. People are putting this false responsibility on Bro like it is his sworn duty to "protect the community" and "keep the balance." I don't see how you can even make this argument. 

It's like the guy on the block with the best Christmas lights decides to stop putting them up one year, and everyone's got their pitchforks demanding he ****ing get out there and put them up. I don't want to pick sides but to me he is quite correct in stating that it is not about you.
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:22:02 »
"You, as one of few real leaders in this community, have let us down."

Us?


I am sorry I let you down, as your community leader


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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:24:08 »
op...are you mentally ill in some way? or is this a reddit meme?

Regardless of whether you agree with him or not...is that first part really necessary?

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:24:08 »
Pretty sure I've been by the Bro Factory before. Bad photoshop aside I think a lot of people understand what Bro is trying to do and stand behind him.


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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:27:12 »
Shouldn't this be in off-topic?

It is kinda keycap related.  I don't see a problem with it being in the keycaps forum myself.

Fair enough.

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:43:43 »


But seriously, bro said it all.
It's his decision, and if you don't like it, then don't be a part of it.

Sad to see people feel like this is a personal thing done  to them as individuals.

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:49:24 »
The OP sounds like an entitled, self centered prick.

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:52:09 »
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:52:43 »
Holy crap, there is a lot of hyperbole in that letter. Bro has no "responsiblity to provide, protect and support" anyone. And if the "community" is really going to be "destroyed" because Bro wants 100 posts at GH, then the "community" you were referring to wasn't much of a community to begin with.

Somehow though, I think we will all survive. I have no issues with Bro's new requirements. Not because I'm over 100 posts, but because he has a talent, and therefore he has the right to determine how he wants to use it. There is nothing at all wrong with that. Instead of railing against something you don't fully appreciate, you should take a moment and think about it from the other person's point of view. When you are open to seeing things from a different perspective it can open a lot of doors.
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:54:11 »
I don't know the full history here, but the hypocrisy bit seems a bit forced to me. Last I checked, everyone is entitled to change their minds on what they want to do, or even what ideals they adhere to.

Hypocrisy is saying one thing, and doing another. If Bro said he'd sell to anyone, but secretely only sold to those with 100 meaningful posts, that would be hypocrisy.

However, Bro announced a change in practice. That's not hypocrisy, its simply a shift in direction.

I also don't get the whole us vs them mentality of reddit and geekhack. I personally don't like reddit (as a website, not any particular subreddit), but I still go there as there's plenty of great information. We're all just people who have the same hobby/passion. If somebody wants to give back to the community, and they're only part of one, there's nothing wrong that. Anybody who wants to put in the effort can come over from reddit, and vice versa.

If I'm giving back to one of the communities, but not the others, it has nothing to do with with other communities. If people perceive that as an attack on these other communities, that's just plain silly.
  
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:54:32 »

Shouldn't this be in off-topic?

It is kinda keycap related.  I don't see a problem with it being in the keycaps forum myself.
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:57:55 »

Shouldn't this be in off-topic?

It is kinda keycap related.  I don't see a problem with it being in the keycaps forum myself.
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:58:01 »
Ironpup,
Why don't you just get 55 more posts so you can stop complaining. Is it that hard for you?

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:59:41 »
Real question: how old are you, ironpup?

This read's like something from tabloid press. You are taking facts (post count limit) and erasing all context (bros multiple explanations of why) and spinning your own little version of reality.

I won't dissect your letter but I will leave you a thought; when a person says they no longer want to sell their creations to people they don't know (or like), and your 'rebellious stance' is to no longer buy items from that person in a attempt to change their stance....


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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 19:59:46 »
The entire 'letter' is pretty ridiculous.  What's next, a change.org petition asking for bro to change his policy?




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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 20:00:07 »
At his current post rate it will take a reallllly long time for him to get 55 more posts

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 20:00:26 »
tl;dr Bro eats babies.

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 20:09:09 »
Op you dumb? or retarted? search for bro post why he choose to do that.

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 20:12:58 »


Shouldn't this be in off-topic?

It is kinda keycap related.  I don't see a problem with it being in the keycaps forum myself.
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 20:20:04 »


Shouldn't this be in off-topic?

It is kinda keycap related.  I don't see a problem with it being in the keycaps forum myself.
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 20:24:04 »
cry more pls

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 20:26:34 »
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Shouldn't this be in off-topic?

It is kinda keycap related.  I don't see a problem with it being in the keycaps forum myself.
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 21:04:57 »
"You, as one of few real leaders in this community, have let us down."

Us?


I am sorry I let you down, as your community communist  leader


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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 21:07:49 »
In any case a private communication would have more chances to help, even in this sad case of wrong expectations.

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 21:11:57 »
Bro, Keep on keepin on.  I fully support what you and bunny are doing.  I wish I could have helped out with the last one that Bunny did, but didn't have the disposable cash at the time.

To the OP, if you know everything, go make you millions and come back and tell us how to do it.  You obviously have everything figured out already.
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 21:18:10 »
Didn't even know so much about the drama surrounding this but I guess some people are pretty upset over it! The exclusivity of artisan caps is part of the fun of owning them, I don't see an issue with his choices. It's his choice to make, and he made it.

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 21:18:41 »
If this thread has taught me anything, it's that I need to step my GIF game up.

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 21:19:15 »
I just don't understand what the op is trying to achieve by doing this...

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 21:20:14 »
I just don't understand what the op is trying to achieve by doing this...

Isn't it obvious? Only 55 more open letters to Bro and he'll have 100 posts.

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 21:24:41 »
I just don't understand what the op is trying to achieve by doing this...

Isn't it obvious? Only 55 more open letters to Bro and he'll have 100 posts.

I think the effort to write the long letter was way more than just writing 100 posts.

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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 21:33:26 »
As much as everyone disagrees, I don't think it's right to belittle the guy for sharing his opinion. He wrote the letter and it has been responded to. Offering your opinion on the matter is one thing but calling him a retard and making fun of him is just plain rude.
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Re: An open letter to BroCaps
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 21:37:26 »
If this thread has taught me anything, it's that I need to step my GIF game up.
I certainly feel the same way. I am not versed in the complex language of GIFs so like a peasant I can only communicate via words. It appears all the veterans are masters so time to start learning now or be left behind.