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Offline necromanx

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[GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« on: Mon, 04 November 2019, 08:01:53 »
HSA or HALF SA is a double shot ABS keycap profile with a glossy finish.  As the name implies, it’s a shorter variation on the SA profile while still being spherical and sculpted.
It is a brand new profile created by JTK.
The keycaps come packaged in a JTK keycap tray


Available sets

HSA White on Black


HSA Beige on Brown


Where to buy?

NA: Novelkeys - White on Black:
https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/frontpage/products/hsa-wob-keycaps-gb
USD 75

NA: DixieMech - Beige on Brown
https://dixiemech.store/products/hsa-beige-on-brown
USD 75

EU: MyKeyboard
https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/hsa_209/
75 EUR

Asia: zFrontier
https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/groupbuy/products/jtk-hsa-bob
https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/groupbuy/products/jtk-hsa-wob
USD 75

China: zFrontier
https://www.zfrontier.com/m/5628
https://www.zfrontier.com/m/5629
479 YUAN

Australia: Daily Clack
https://dailyclack.com/products/hsa-white-on-black-hsa-beige-on-brown
AUD 122,35


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Timeline
4th November - December 1st

These keycaps are set to be shipped out in April, 2020.

Credits
Janglad for providing renders and helping with kit design
Ryan for providing kit images.
All vendors for running this

« Last Edit: Mon, 04 November 2019, 18:22:54 by necromanx »

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 04 November 2019, 08:27:36 »
Approved, edited the OP to add the est shipping date (took from novelkeys). GL w GB
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 04 November 2019, 10:08:59 »
Just curious, why does the US have 2 different vendors for the 2 different colors?  That's a tiny bit extra on shipping cost.  Now I have to decide if I really want both colors or just one.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 04 November 2019, 10:11:33 »
Just curious, why does the US have 2 different vendors for the 2 different colors?  That's a tiny bit extra on shipping cost.  Now I have to decide if I really want both colors or just one.

That is a good point regarding the split shipping.  Sorry for this! The original plan was to launch these sets as their own things in different periods.  JTK preferred to run it together. 

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 04 November 2019, 14:26:24 »
ne MOQs?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 04 November 2019, 14:33:04 »
According to IC, Moq is 250 each

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 04 November 2019, 18:21:41 »
Correct.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 05 November 2019, 01:22:55 »
Omg my money... this looks seriously good though. Nice work.  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 05 November 2019, 14:15:49 »
Glossy caps is where it's at :cool:


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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 19:04:32 »
I really hope SRCLK is just a render typo and not indicative of the finished product

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 23:59:46 »
I really hope SRCLK is just a render typo and not indicative of the finished product

It was actually in the prototype set that Jae received. I hope JTK was paying attention and intends to fix the error.
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 08:56:44 »
I really hope SRCLK is just a render typo and not indicative of the finished product

It was actually in the prototype set that Jae received. I hope JTK was paying attention and intends to fix the error.

Seriously, would be good to know whether this error will be corrected in the final set. I'm in for WoB and might go for the BoB, too, but not with a wonky legend.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 13 November 2019, 23:02:52 »
Any word on the SRCLK issue? Waiting to order here.  :)

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 26 November 2019, 21:03:40 »
Time’s running out. Any word on the likelihood of a fix for the SRCLK legend?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 26 November 2019, 22:07:36 »
Time’s running out. Any word on the likelihood of a fix for the SRCLK legend?
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 30 November 2019, 20:07:19 »
Any word on anything? MoQs, SRCLK fixes, etc.?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 01 December 2019, 12:28:02 »
SRCLK  is not a render mistake but was a mistake in the original molds (the renders are using the cad files for the molds).  It will be taken care off!
I expect the GB to be closed down on all vendors in the next two days.  Both sets reached MOQ.  I will share the total sold numbers once I got all numbers.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 01 December 2019, 13:23:28 »
SRCLK  is not a render mistake but was a mistake in the original molds (the renders are using the cad files for the molds).  It will be taken care off!
I expect the GB to be closed down on all vendors in the next two days.  Both sets reached MOQ.  I will share the total sold numbers once I got all numbers.

Ok, good news. Thanks. Just ordered BoB in addition to WoB.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 08:29:54 »
So, what is the final number for this GB on each color?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 13 January 2020, 19:29:09 »
Any updates? Been a while!

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 20 January 2020, 19:21:54 »
*a tumbleweed blows by*

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 21 January 2020, 08:37:27 »
*a tumbleweed blows by*

What kind of updates are you looking for? It'll be shipped in April.  ..?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 22 January 2020, 17:00:55 »
*a tumbleweed blows by*

What kind of updates are you looking for? It'll be shipped in April.  ..?

Oh, I dunno. Maybe the sales numbers promised above and never delivered. Maybe a basic progress report. Some pictures of sample caps produced in the rendered colorways or a fixed SRCLK sample. Something more than nothing at all?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 23 January 2020, 06:17:22 »
*a tumbleweed blows by*

What kind of updates are you looking for? It'll be shipped in April.  ..?

Oh, I dunno. Maybe the sales numbers promised above and never delivered. Maybe a basic progress report. Some pictures of sample caps produced in the rendered colorways or a fixed SRCLK sample. Something more than nothing at all?

Ok fair enough.
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 23 January 2020, 15:56:40 »
Sales:
WoB sold 293 and 230 extras will be stocked up across vendors. (total: 523)
BoB sold  212 and 160 extras will be stocked up across vendors. (total: 372)

Still didnt get the samples for BoB.  We were hoping to get that ready before CNY but it did not happen.  SRCLK will be fixed.  I did not see new molds for this personally yet.  Expect more updates past CNY.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 23 January 2020, 16:04:36 »
Great. Thanks for the update! Looking forward to the caps.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 23 January 2020, 19:31:04 »
More
Sales:
WoB sold 293 and 230 extras will be stocked up across vendors. (total: 523)
BoB sold  212 and 160 extras will be stocked up across vendors. (total: 372)

Still didnt get the samples for BoB.  We were hoping to get that ready before CNY but it did not happen.  SRCLK will be fixed.  I did not see new molds for this personally yet.  Expect more updates past CNY.


« Last Edit: Fri, 24 January 2020, 09:52:29 by dvorcol »

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 24 January 2020, 06:56:36 »
Sales:
WoB sold 293 and 230 extras will be stocked up across vendors. (total: 523)
BoB sold  212 and 160 extras will be stocked up across vendors. (total: 372)

Still didnt get the samples for BoB.  We were hoping to get that ready before CNY but it did not happen.  SRCLK will be fixed.  I did not see new molds for this personally yet.  Expect more updates past CNY.

Even as someone who got in on the groupbuy, it is nice to see how many extras will be stocked. Gotta have the opportunity to get these kits in people's hands to build hype for future groupbuys.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 24 January 2020, 08:12:54 »
Apparently the next HSA drop will be on drop. Drop's renders still have SRCLK though?

https://drop.com/talk/29736/dropping-soon-jtk-hsa-doubleshot-abs-keycap-sets


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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 24 January 2020, 08:25:29 »
Apparently the next HSA drop will be on drop. Drop's renders still have SRCLK though?

https://drop.com/talk/29736/dropping-soon-jtk-hsa-doubleshot-abs-keycap-sets

Oh dang those colors looks good. Glad I got only the brown this time so I can grab a more colorful one from drop.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 24 January 2020, 09:20:28 »
Apparently the next HSA drop will be on drop. Drop's renders still have SRCLK though?

https://drop.com/talk/29736/dropping-soon-jtk-hsa-doubleshot-abs-keycap-sets

They are probably using old models to renders these ;-)

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:17:26 »
How thick are these?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 22:19:46 »
i joined this groupbuy via a dealer in Vietnam. Do you guys have any update on this GB?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 22:35:38 »
i joined this groupbuy via a dealer in Vietnam. Do you guys have any update on this GB?

In modification process. Because of the impact of the virus, we will have a certain delay.






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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 05:53:34 »
i joined this groupbuy via a dealer in Vietnam. Do you guys have any update on this GB?

In modification process. Because of the impact of the virus, we will have a certain delay.

Is the "SRCLK" fixed?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 14:59:02 »
Is the "SRCLK" fixed?

Sales:
WoB sold 293 and 230 extras will be stocked up across vendors. (total: 523)
BoB sold  212 and 160 extras will be stocked up across vendors. (total: 372)

Still didnt get the samples for BoB.  We were hoping to get that ready before CNY but it did not happen.  SRCLK will be fixed.  I did not see new molds for this personally yet.  Expect more updates past CNY.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #36 on: Sat, 28 March 2020, 05:42:01 »
Can you confirm shipping date?
i joined this groupbuy via a dealer in Vietnam. Do you guys have any update on this GB?

In modification process. Because of the impact of the virus, we will have a certain delay.

Is the "SRCLK" fixed?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 10 April 2020, 23:31:00 »
Expect more updates past CNY.

So... update soon?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 19 April 2020, 22:32:53 »
Expect more updates past CNY.

So... update soon?
Apparently, 1-2 month delay they said on discord.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 13 May 2020, 16:22:29 »
Any updates on this? I reached out to Dixie Mech and they said they are not involved and are just a proxy...

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 13 May 2020, 20:19:16 »
Whoa, how'd I miss this? I am in for extras if there are any, are there?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 10:29:22 »
I think we're approaching the 2-month delay now. Are there any updates on this?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #42 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 15:54:43 »
on novelkeys, they expect that it will be shipped from manufacturer late june and they will ship it out to customers in july.

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« Reply #43 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 13:03:35 »
on novelkeys, they expect that it will be shipped from manufacturer late june and they will ship it out to customers in july.
Nice of Novelkeys to give an update. Dixie just wanted to pass the buck

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #44 on: Sat, 13 June 2020, 07:30:18 »
on novelkeys, they expect that it will be shipped from manufacturer late june and they will ship it out to customers in july.
Nice of Novelkeys to give an update. Dixie just wanted to pass the buck
Well I don't think either of them are actually able to give an update are they? Isn't the GB runner European and both those vendors are NA? Last I heard the GB runner was waiting for samples to arrive (may 19).  I doubt at this rate that manufacturing will be finished by late June.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 13 June 2020, 21:57:53 »
on novelkeys, they expect that it will be shipped from manufacturer late june and they will ship it out to customers in july.
Nice of Novelkeys to give an update. Dixie just wanted to pass the buck
Well I don't think either of them are actually able to give an update are they? Isn't the GB runner European and both those vendors are NA? Last I heard the GB runner was waiting for samples to arrive (may 19).  I doubt at this rate that manufacturing will be finished by late June.

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I would expect at this point the vendors would be in communication with the GB runner to see where they are at in the process. I know they don't have control of expediting the process, but they should have a more direct line of communication. I was more put off by DM dismissing me to another vendor (I assume the GB runner), instead of having an update or at least offering to reach out. I know they don't have final say on the caps, but they are a proxy and presumably are making money on this (while also advertising to proxy service right on their website). Novelkeys on the other hand was proactive in getting information.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 18 June 2020, 06:00:21 »
Just received a new update on this.

JTK had some issues with the stems of the key caps, and are reworking the tooling slightly.

This obviously will cause another delay, but in the end it will be worthwhile.

Current estimate is late August - September for completion.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #47 on: Thu, 18 June 2020, 06:12:41 »
Just received a new update on this.

JTK had some issues with the stems of the key caps, and are reworking the tooling slightly.

This obviously will cause another delay, but in the end it will be worthwhile.

Current estimate is late August - September for completion.
Bummer.. but glad for the update - thanks

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 18 June 2020, 15:47:16 »
Just received a new update on this.

JTK had some issues with the stems of the key caps, and are reworking the tooling slightly.

This obviously will cause another delay, but in the end it will be worthwhile.

Current estimate is late August - September for completion.

Thank you for another timely update! Glad to hear they are working the issues out before shipping the product.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 21 June 2020, 23:41:08 »
Just received a new update on this.

JTK had some issues with the stems of the key caps, and are reworking the tooling slightly.

This obviously will cause another delay, but in the end it will be worthwhile.

Current estimate is late August - September for completion.
Hate to hear that. Is there anyway I can pay in advance for an 1 of the extra HSA sets now?


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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 17 July 2020, 03:05:47 »
Just received a new update on this.

JTK had some issues with the stems of the key caps, and are reworking the tooling slightly.

This obviously will cause another delay, but in the end it will be worthwhile.

Current estimate is late August - September for completion.
Hate to hear that. Is there anyway I can pay in advance for an 1 of the extra HSA sets now?


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I have no association with the GB runner but in my experience, GB runners have not sold extras before they make them broadly available

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 17 July 2020, 03:20:08 »
any news? ETA for shipping?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 17 July 2020, 03:24:20 »
any news? ETA for shipping?
I've had a dig around on the discord server and can't see anything since the update about stem problems

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 17 July 2020, 03:48:40 »
I see, thank you so much.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #54 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 00:34:41 »
Just received a new update on this.

JTK had some issues with the stems of the key caps, and are reworking the tooling slightly.

This obviously will cause another delay, but in the end it will be worthwhile.

Current estimate is late August - September for completion.
Hate to hear that. Is there anyway I can pay in advance for an 1 of the extra HSA sets now?


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I have no association with the GB runner but in my experience, GB runners have not sold extras before they make them broadly available

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I know for three sets - GMK Sandstorm, GMK Metaverse, and GMK Frost Witch - SwitchMod opened a purchase window after the GB ended but before production finished.  They call it pre-production.  Not sure if others have done anything similar.




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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 00:41:08 »
Just received a new update on this.

JTK had some issues with the stems of the key caps, and are reworking the tooling slightly.

This obviously will cause another delay, but in the end it will be worthwhile.

Current estimate is late August - September for completion.
Hate to hear that. Is there anyway I can pay in advance for an 1 of the extra HSA sets now?


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I have no association with the GB runner but in my experience, GB runners have not sold extras before they make them broadly available

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I know for three sets - GMK Sandstorm, GMK Metaverse, and GMK Frost Witch - SwitchMod opened a purchase window after the GB ended but before production finished.  They call it pre-production.  Not sure if others have done anything similar.

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This is pretty standard across vendors. What I think William was asking was: can he purchase a kit from the extras before they are made available to everyone - which I believe is no.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 13 August 2020, 23:20:29 »
We still looking at these shipping from JTK by end of August?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 13 August 2020, 23:43:24 »
We still looking at these shipping from JTK by end of August?
I asked JTK for an update a while back and  they said no timeline as of yet due to the tooling being redone. They found that there were issues with the stems on the current tooling. Just have to wait to hear when the fix has been completed and tested

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #58 on: Sat, 15 August 2020, 10:14:49 »
Mike at novelkeys seems to be in communication with JTK also. His website indicates shipping end of August, just curious if that figure is still accurate.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #59 on: Sat, 15 August 2020, 10:49:17 »
Mike at novelkeys seems to be in communication with JTK also. His website indicates shipping end of August, just curious if that figure is still accurate.
I can't speak for NK but going on the response JTK gave me on aug 5 I doubt it. Here's a screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/gzzIhUr

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #60 on: Sun, 16 August 2020, 14:52:02 »
Mike at novelkeys seems to be in communication with JTK also. His website indicates shipping end of August, just curious if that figure is still accurate.
I can't speak for NK but going on the response JTK gave me on aug 5 I doubt it. Here's a screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/gzzIhUr

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Appreciate the update for us here!

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #61 on: Sat, 12 September 2020, 19:00:46 »
Can @necromanx give an update? This ran almost a year ago. I think an update here would be fair.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #62 on: Sat, 12 September 2020, 20:07:13 »
Can @necromanx give an update? This ran almost a year ago. I think an update here would be fair.
It would be nice to get an official update, but I bet the answer will be something along the lines of "refining the legends, will update when they are ready". The initial timeline was never realistic - just look at susuwatari, that was a new double shot sculpt and it was in development forever.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #63 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 06:38:02 »
Can @necromanx give an update? This ran almost a year ago. I think an update here would be fair.
I actually just had a look in the JTK discord channel and on the 9th sept there is an update that confirms what I suggest in my last reply: https://imgur.com/a/t0av79l

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #64 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 08:04:34 »
Can @necromanx give an update? This ran almost a year ago. I think an update here would be fair.
I actually just had a look in the JTK discord channel and on the 9th sept there is an update that confirms what I suggest in my last reply: https://imgur.com/a/t0av79l

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #65 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 08:45:41 »
Can @necromanx give an update? This ran almost a year ago. I think an update here would be fair.
I actually just had a look in the JTK discord channel and on the 9th sept there is an update that confirms what I suggest in my last reply: https://imgur.com/a/t0av79l

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #66 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 08:55:03 »
Trying to get a solid update here as well. From what was said above and the info I got is that the molds are still being tuned. I would estimate we are looking at December-January. If I get more concrete info I will update.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #67 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 21:17:00 »
I guess no more concrete info has become available in the month since the last post?

This is such a strange group buy, with zero communication from the GB runners. Meanwhile, JTK has opened a Discord and has channels with updates for no less than nine keysets in various stages of IC and GB. Nothing on there at all about HSA, as far as I can tell. Huh.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #68 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 21:44:44 »
I guess no more concrete info has become available in the month since the last post?

This is such a strange group buy, with zero communication from the GB runners. Meanwhile, JTK has opened a Discord and has channels with updates for no less than nine keysets in various stages of IC and GB. Nothing on there at all about HSA, as far as I can tell. Huh.

Late September JTK discord said:



So yes, they are still working on the molds it seems.
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #69 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 22:55:35 »
I guess no more concrete info has become available in the month since the last post?

This is such a strange group buy, with zero communication from the GB runners. Meanwhile, JTK has opened a Discord and has channels with updates for no less than nine keysets in various stages of IC and GB. Nothing on there at all about HSA, as far as I can tell. Huh.

Late September JTK discord said:

(Attachment Link)

So yes, they are still working on the molds it seems.
Nu-sculpt tings

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #70 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 16:31:15 »
Beautiful!! I really like the beige One!!

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #71 on: Sat, 31 October 2020, 18:14:29 »
Will extras drop soon? Want this for Christmas!

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #72 on: Sat, 31 October 2020, 19:02:32 »
Will extras drop soon? Want this for Christmas!
Not likely, they haven't finished developing the moulds yet. Then they need to manufacture the keys and ship out the GB orders.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #73 on: Sat, 31 October 2020, 19:53:46 »
Looks like I ordered this on November 3, 2019, about a year ago, and they haven’t even figured out the molds yet. And other than vague, non-committal notes on his discord there’s no communication on it. That’s certainly a great way to lose the confidence of your buyers, which I assume is what they’re going for at this point.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #74 on: Sat, 31 October 2020, 20:05:46 »
Looks like I ordered this on November 3, 2019, about a year ago, and they haven’t even figured out the molds yet. And other than vague, non-committal notes on his discord there’s no communication on it. That’s certainly a great way to lose the confidence of your buyers, which I assume is what they’re going for at this point.

For people who were expecting the original timeline to be somewhat accurate it's disappointing yes but if you compare this to other first runs for new sculpts, it seems to be pretty standard. Take doubles shot mt3 for example (susuwatari), that was in dev forever

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #75 on: Sun, 01 November 2020, 08:06:26 »
Covid did slow things down as well. I'm not too hung up on the time, just the lack of communication. They have tons of other products they're talking about. I think they should be letting us know how things are going on this particular set.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #76 on: Sun, 01 November 2020, 09:20:08 »
Just as a heads up, I have reached out to several people for an update. Hope to hear back soon.

Really sorry for any delay here!

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 03 November 2020, 22:23:38 »
Just as a heads up, I have reached out to several people for an update. Hope to hear back soon.

Really sorry for any delay here!

Really appreciate you doing the leg work on this. I wish Dixie was this responsive for the BoB version.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #78 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 06:22:36 »
Just as a heads up, I have reached out to several people for an update. Hope to hear back soon.

Really sorry for any delay here!

Really appreciate you doing the leg work on this. I wish Dixie was this responsive for the BoB version.
Just so you are aware, both kits are being held up for the same reason. There isn't really any need for both NK and Dixie to follow up. JTK are refining the moulds they use to produce the keycaps. Once they are ready, both WoB and BoB can start production (or maybe one then the other, depending on what JTK decide to do)

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #79 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 09:55:24 »
Got some unfortunate news. There is no update in regards to timeline. Molds are still being worked on and perfected.

I am truly sorry for this delay, and it really wasn't something that we were informed of when we ran this set. I think the wait will be worth it, but again I completely understand the frustration here.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #80 on: Sat, 07 November 2020, 18:34:03 »
Got some unfortunate news. There is no update in regards to timeline. Molds are still being worked on and perfected.

I am truly sorry for this delay, and it really wasn't something that we were informed of when we ran this set. I think the wait will be worth it, but again I completely understand the frustration here.
Thanks for the info and your hard work generally. You are one of the few vendors that I put my confidence in.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #81 on: Sat, 07 November 2020, 18:53:56 »
Got some unfortunate news. There is no update in regards to timeline. Molds are still being worked on and perfected.

I am truly sorry for this delay, and it really wasn't something that we were informed of when we ran this set. I think the wait will be worth it, but again I completely understand the frustration here.

Thanks for the update!

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #82 on: Sun, 08 November 2020, 19:51:07 »
Just as a heads up, I have reached out to several people for an update. Hope to hear back soon.

Really sorry for any delay here!

Really appreciate you doing the leg work on this. I wish Dixie was this responsive for the BoB version.
Just so you are aware, both kits are being held up for the same reason. There isn't really any need for both NK and Dixie to follow up. JTK are refining the moulds they use to produce the keycaps. Once they are ready, both WoB and BoB can start production (or maybe one then the other, depending on what JTK decide to do)

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I appreciate that both NK and Dixie don't need to follow up, but I have gotten zero communication from Dixie (they don't even mention the set in their newsletters) and when I reached out they didn't direct me to NK but to a european vendor and said Dixie was only a proxy, so its not like they are trading off between NK of who follows up with JTK. I am not upset with Dixie for the delay but for failing to communicate.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 12 November 2020, 08:47:14 »
Hi Everyone.

I want to clarify the current issues a little bit. 
JTK has been hit by the corrona virus in various ways that severly impacted their production.
Their material supplier (plastics) went bankrupt during the pandemic.  They had to source another supplier, test their quality, compare to others.  This took quite some time and hindered pretty much all JTK projects.

Besides that their main engineer who has been improving the molds also left JTK and they had to redo a lot of work because the work that was left behind on HSA was simply not up to expectations.

In terms of delivery expectations.  As NK mentioned before they are still working on perfecting the molds and are currently running sample tests.  Once those tests are completed they will move into production.  Without those tests completed they do not want to set any random expectation.

A lot of love and passion went into this project and everyone involved wants to see perfect keycaps so I am certain the extra time on this project will be worth the wait.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 12 November 2020, 09:14:19 »
I'm sorry to bring you so much trouble, because 2020 is a very difficult year for us. First of all, the global virus has led to the shutdown of our factory on a large scale. In addition, the material manufacturers we have cooperated with for many years have not survived this disaster, which leads to the closure of the company. As a result, we have to replace the material manufacturers, which will give us JTK CA set production (JTK vostok).There are many unknown problems and troubles.

With regard to HSA, the problem we are facing is more complicated. At the end of 2019, the old engineer in charge of the HSA project resigned and left. In addition, due to the long-term vacancy caused by the epidemic situation, we did not have any engineers to take over in time. Although we searched for the latest engineers after the resumption of work, because of the high complexity of the project, we conducted the following tests At present, HSA is still in the modification and testing stage.

As compensation (although we know that this compensation can not make up for the customer's waiting loss, but we can only rely on such measures to comfort customers at present), each set of HSA orders will receive the following products:

1,JTK HSA CMYW set
2, JTK CA novelties set(As a conservative plan, we dont want do HSA novetlies so far)

The implementation and distribution of the compensation plan will be communicated and discussed with the vendors  to determine that after all the projects are completed, the compensation will be distributed to each customer


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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 12 November 2020, 14:55:55 »
I'm sorry to bring you so much trouble, because 2020 is a very difficult year for us. First of all, the global virus has led to the shutdown of our factory on a large scale. In addition, the material manufacturers we have cooperated with for many years have not survived this disaster, which leads to the closure of the company. As a result, we have to replace the material manufacturers, which will give us JTK CA set production (JTK vostok).There are many unknown problems and troubles.

With regard to HSA, the problem we are facing is more complicated. At the end of 2019, the old engineer in charge of the HSA project resigned and left. In addition, due to the long-term vacancy caused by the epidemic situation, we did not have any engineers to take over in time. Although we searched for the latest engineers after the resumption of work, because of the high complexity of the project, we conducted the following tests At present, HSA is still in the modification and testing stage.

As compensation (although we know that this compensation can not make up for the customer's waiting loss, but we can only rely on such measures to comfort customers at present), each set of HSA orders will receive the following products:

1,JTK HSA CMYW set
2, JTK CA novelties set(As a conservative plan, we dont want do HSA novetlies so far)

The implementation and distribution of the compensation plan will be communicated and discussed with the vendors  to determine that after all the projects are completed, the compensation will be distributed to each customer
That's unfortunate I hope things start to get better for you and the business.
Do you have any rough timeframe for starting or finishing production? Q1 2021? Or later?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 13 November 2020, 08:45:51 »
I'm sorry to bring you so much trouble, because 2020 is a very difficult year for us. First of all, the global virus has led to the shutdown of our factory on a large scale. In addition, the material manufacturers we have cooperated with for many years have not survived this disaster, which leads to the closure of the company. As a result, we have to replace the material manufacturers, which will give us JTK CA set production (JTK vostok).There are many unknown problems and troubles.

With regard to HSA, the problem we are facing is more complicated. At the end of 2019, the old engineer in charge of the HSA project resigned and left. In addition, due to the long-term vacancy caused by the epidemic situation, we did not have any engineers to take over in time. Although we searched for the latest engineers after the resumption of work, because of the high complexity of the project, we conducted the following tests At present, HSA is still in the modification and testing stage.

As compensation (although we know that this compensation can not make up for the customer's waiting loss, but we can only rely on such measures to comfort customers at present), each set of HSA orders will receive the following products:

1,JTK HSA CMYW set
2, JTK CA novelties set(As a conservative plan, we dont want do HSA novetlies so far)

The implementation and distribution of the compensation plan will be communicated and discussed with the vendors  to determine that after all the projects are completed, the compensation will be distributed to each customer

Thanks for chiming in!

Not to sound ungrateful...but I'm not sure I understand the "compensation." The novelties to a different set? IMO, that would be unnecessary and you'd just be out some keycaps. Unless I'm misunderstanding what's being said here. To be honest, I'm not in need of any compensation. I understand stuff happens. I just ask that you continue to keep us posted.

Just to throw out an idea: maybe you could give a discount on a future set to those who ordered HSA as compensation?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 13 November 2020, 15:33:00 »


I'm sorry to bring you so much trouble, because 2020 is a very difficult year for us. First of all, the global virus has led to the shutdown of our factory on a large scale. In addition, the material manufacturers we have cooperated with for many years have not survived this disaster, which leads to the closure of the company. As a result, we have to replace the material manufacturers, which will give us JTK CA set production (JTK vostok).There are many unknown problems and troubles.

With regard to HSA, the problem we are facing is more complicated. At the end of 2019, the old engineer in charge of the HSA project resigned and left. In addition, due to the long-term vacancy caused by the epidemic situation, we did not have any engineers to take over in time. Although we searched for the latest engineers after the resumption of work, because of the high complexity of the project, we conducted the following tests At present, HSA is still in the modification and testing stage.

As compensation (although we know that this compensation can not make up for the customer's waiting loss, but we can only rely on such measures to comfort customers at present), each set of HSA orders will receive the following products:

1,JTK HSA CMYW set
2, JTK CA novelties set(As a conservative plan, we dont want do HSA novetlies so far)

The implementation and distribution of the compensation plan will be communicated and discussed with the vendors  to determine that after all the projects are completed, the compensation will be distributed to each customer

Thanks for chiming in!

Not to sound ungrateful...but I'm not sure I understand the "compensation." The novelties to a different set? IMO, that would be unnecessary and you'd just be out some keycaps. Unless I'm misunderstanding what's being said here. To be honest, I'm not in need of any compensation. I understand stuff happens. I just ask that you continue to keep us posted.

Just to throw out an idea: maybe you could give a discount on a future set to those who ordered HSA as compensation?

I agree but I think administering a discount when these were sold through vendors will be difficult.

I'm not a fan of cmyw kits, and don't need a JTK CA novelties kit.

I would however really like some dark red accent keys. Maybe JTK can post a form to collect preference of additional accent keys (enter/space/ESC) and include those?
- one colour for the WoB kits and a different colour for the BoB kits?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #88 on: Mon, 04 January 2021, 16:28:09 »
To be frank, not having the tooling for the molds finalized at this stage should be enough to refund your customers.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #89 on: Tue, 05 January 2021, 08:12:35 »
Honestly Chinese New Years is just around the corner and the hobby will grind to a halt. I don't expect these will surface until late summer of 2021 if at all.

Sadly, you will only screw the proxies if you try to get a refund through PayPal/Credit Card chargeback, but that may be the only recourse for people who do not risk these never showing up.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #90 on: Tue, 05 January 2021, 10:44:10 »
My sympathy for vendors is waning. To some extent, it is the vendors responsibility to do due diligence and evaluate risk before attaching their name to a gb. What really made me see how much money motivates is when sets are continued to be sponsored by vendors from troubled manufacturers, such as JTK and keyreative. It seems like there is some logic in halting in accepting more group buys from troubled manufactors until they can demonstrate that they will fulfill their prior obligations.
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #91 on: Tue, 05 January 2021, 11:03:41 »
My sympathy for vendors is waning. To some extent, it is the vendors responsibility to do due diligence and evaluate risk before attaching their name to a gb. What really made me see how much money motivates is when sets are continued to be sponsored by vendors from troubled manufacturers, such as JTK and keyreative. It seems like there is some logic in halting in accepting more group buys from troubled manufactors until they can demonstrate that they will fulfill their prior obligations.
FWIW both JTK and Keyreative have figured out their ****... eventually. DSA/KAM Starry Night R2 took like 2 years to start shipping, and ZFrontier almost totally disappeared from the community during that time. But they did eventually ship, and the finished product was very good (arguably exceeding expectations, depending on your taste in keycaps).

It would be nice if I could get a refund on some keycaps I will no longer want in 2 years (see also: MT3 Suswatari). But I also understand that not every vendor is Drop with the ability to arbitrarily issue refunds.

However, there is one big argument in favor of a wide-scale cancellation & refund: the tooling has not been made, therefore the majority of the project cost has not been incurred. I would much rather the whole thing be cancelled and refunded NOW, than to wait 6 months until all the money has been spent and some other problem arises and then everyone is ****ed.

Personally I would be willing to accept a small loss and get $60 refunded on my keyset now, than to wait 3 years and/or never get keycaps and no refund at all.
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #92 on: Tue, 05 January 2021, 11:18:53 »
I appreciate Mike’s weighing in on this earlier. He’s always seem to do right by me and by this community.

I can’t same the same for the others involved, however. So, regardless of the outcome here, the lack of consideration for customers shown by JTK and Dixie will at the very least give me considerable pause if I ever consider ordering from those two again.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #94 on: Tue, 26 January 2021, 21:32:00 »
I hear you don't have to fulfill a group buy if all the participants are dead.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #95 on: Thu, 11 February 2021, 05:20:03 »
Any update on how the moulds are going?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #96 on: Sat, 13 February 2021, 13:07:54 »
I am ok with an extended wait, given global circumstances, the nature of our hobby, and the specific setbacks encountered by JTK. That said, it would be interesting to hear whether we might receive these in the Year of our Lord 2021. "No" is a fine answer.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #97 on: Sat, 13 February 2021, 18:08:36 »
I am ok with an extended wait, given global circumstances, the nature of our hobby, and the specific setbacks encountered by JTK. That said, it would be interesting to hear whether we might receive these in the Year of our Lord 2021. "No" is a fine answer.
Pretty sure they're still aiming for q2 2021. Whether that will happen or not I don't know

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #98 on: Wed, 24 March 2021, 21:42:56 »
I see very few if any vendors are running more JTK sets...that is great. I love to see people using the power of their wallet.

Probably not good news for this set though. Is JTK pretty much out of business or nah?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #99 on: Wed, 24 March 2021, 22:33:50 »
I am ok with an extended wait, given global circumstances, the nature of our hobby, and the specific setbacks encountered by JTK. That said, it would be interesting to hear whether we might receive these in the Year of our Lord 2021. "No" is a fine answer.
Pretty sure they're still aiming for q2 2021. Whether that will happen or not I don't know

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Do they even have molds? Last we heard, the tooling design hadn't even been finished, let alone setting up for production in the next few months.
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #100 on: Wed, 24 March 2021, 23:04:01 »
I am ok with an extended wait, given global circumstances, the nature of our hobby, and the specific setbacks encountered by JTK. That said, it would be interesting to hear whether we might receive these in the Year of our Lord 2021. "No" is a fine answer.
Pretty sure they're still aiming for q2 2021. Whether that will happen or not I don't know

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Do they even have molds? Last we heard, the tooling design hadn't even been finished, let alone setting up for production in the next few months.
Prototypes were shown on the prototypist YT channel back in August 2019. IIRC the issues were not major, something to do with the stems and some minor tweeks to legends.
For some reason I seem to remember there being discussion about JTKs engineer who was working on the HSA moulds leaving. I can't say for sure though.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #101 on: Thu, 25 March 2021, 22:22:08 »
Will we get an update this year from the lead vendor?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #102 on: Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:36:48 »
I think lead vendor is mykeyboard.eu pretty much all vendors are acting like this gb never ran though.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #103 on: Thu, 08 April 2021, 11:55:27 »
I think lead vendor is mykeyboard.eu pretty much all vendors are acting like this gb never ran though.

Novelkeys atleast offered refunds, but yeah I agree that it feels like its being ignored.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #104 on: Fri, 09 April 2021, 09:04:24 »
Hey all!

I have requested another update from JTK on this. I havent heard back yet, but as soon as I do I will update here.

This is not forgotten! It is, though, the longest running GB we have had. :( I am truly sorry for the delays on this, it is not what we thought it would be.


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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #105 on: Sat, 10 April 2021, 16:27:04 »
Hey all!

I have requested another update from JTK on this. I havent heard back yet, but as soon as I do I will update here.

This is not forgotten! It is, though, the longest running GB we have had. :( I am truly sorry for the delays on this, it is not what we thought it would be.

Thanks for keeping us posted. I appreciate it.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #106 on: Sat, 17 April 2021, 11:03:52 »
I wonder what is the longest GB in mech keys history? Surely not this one yet, but it would be kind of amusing to have the honor...

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #107 on: Sat, 17 April 2021, 12:52:53 »
I wonder what is the longest GB in mech keys history? Surely not this one yet, but it would be kind of amusing to have the honor...

Original GH60 probably. Still going theoretically. Same with GMK Hyperfuse round 1. Probably one of the 7Bit group buys would be in the top ranks too. We are definitely nowhere near those.
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #108 on: Sun, 18 April 2021, 09:30:44 »
Maybe the Mira kb?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #109 on: Sun, 18 April 2021, 18:47:43 »
I wonder what is the longest GB in mech keys history? Surely not this one yet, but it would be kind of amusing to have the honor...

Original GH60 probably. Still going theoretically. Same with GMK Hyperfuse round 1. Probably one of the 7Bit group buys would be in the top ranks too. We are definitely nowhere near those.

Zeal Xeno is several years in. I got mine a long time ago, but I believe some folks are still waiting on their boards. Kind of astonishing.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #110 on: Tue, 27 April 2021, 20:39:39 »
Sooooooooo no word from JTK eh?  My beloved black nk65 will wear boring clear polycarbonate in the meantime.  :)

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #111 on: Wed, 28 April 2021, 23:30:42 »
JTK, could you please overlay the profiles of HSA and DSS?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #112 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 00:42:28 »
Hey all!

I have requested another update from JTK on this. I havent heard back yet, but as soon as I do I will update here.

This is not forgotten! It is, though, the longest running GB we have had. :( I am truly sorry for the delays on this, it is not what we thought it would be.
Fingers crossed for some good news.. has JTK responded to you at all?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #113 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 18:39:56 »
Beautiful  :)

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #114 on: Thu, 20 May 2021, 11:38:38 »
Got another update!

HSA is in another mold testing phase (they think its the final test) and then production can start. I would say that we are looking at late summer - early fall for this. But thats only a guess.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #115 on: Sat, 12 June 2021, 07:09:23 »
Really looking forward to finally getting this (and future colorways). I'm hoping that HSA will have all the retro appeal of SA caps but with a sculpt that will make it comfortable to both typing and playing games on. Fingers crossed the next round of moulds come out well!

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #116 on: Fri, 23 July 2021, 19:14:34 »
Hi JTK. Do you have any update for HSA development?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #117 on: Fri, 23 July 2021, 19:21:38 »
Hi JTK. Do you have any update for HSA development?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #118 on: Fri, 23 July 2021, 19:53:11 »
Ooooo, these look nice!!

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #119 on: Mon, 23 August 2021, 17:01:45 »
3 months, bump for update.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #120 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 21:33:10 »
At this point I would like to see Dixie offer refunds like novelkeys. This is pretty much vaporware.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #121 on: Fri, 10 September 2021, 15:02:58 »
Dixie sent an update today with something on HSA. They said not much of an update and that JTK is still "testing," whatever that means.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #122 on: Sat, 11 September 2021, 06:22:25 »
Should they not have tested before taking people's money, lmao

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #123 on: Sat, 11 September 2021, 06:28:41 »
Should they not have tested before taking people's money, lmao
I'm pretty sure this GB was run as a way of funding the new HSA profile tooling so it's not really possible to test unless you have lots of spare $$

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #124 on: Sat, 11 September 2021, 11:14:10 »
Jae showed off a full set on TopClack when the GB launched, what happened to that tooling?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #125 on: Sat, 11 September 2021, 18:52:41 »
Jae showed off a full set on TopClack when the GB launched, what happened to that tooling?
Those were prototypes I believe and there were issues with the stems (can't remember if they were crooked/too thin/cracked) but either way, the molds needed to be improved before going into production.

Edit: also I think the main engineer working on the HSA molds left JTK before they were finished, so I'm not sure who picked up the project.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #126 on: Fri, 17 September 2021, 14:04:57 »
At this point I would be content with a quarterly, "I haven't heard anything but JTK hasn't actually called it off."  :)

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #127 on: Fri, 17 September 2021, 16:49:32 »
New update!

Just got an email from JTK. They are confident about Q4 timeframe. Will keep you posted if we here more.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #128 on: Sat, 18 September 2021, 10:17:29 »
Woohoo!

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #129 on: Tue, 09 November 2021, 09:42:04 »
Q4 is almost half way over - fingers crossed for a Christmas miracle  ;D

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #130 on: Tue, 09 November 2021, 09:46:36 »
Ha!  I'm pleased to see I'm not the only one still F5'ing this thread.   ;D

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #131 on: Tue, 09 November 2021, 10:16:55 »
Looks like I ordered this on November 3, 2019, about a year ago, and they haven’t even figured out the molds yet. And other than vague, non-committal notes on his discord there’s no communication on it. That’s certainly a great way to lose the confidence of your buyers, which I assume is what they’re going for at this point.
Just here for my annual check in to make sure that everyone’s trust in JTK is still broken.

How about an update? How about a snapshot of a prototype? Any evidence at all that this isn’t just a money grab by JTK and the vendors with no intent to fulfill anything?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #132 on: Tue, 09 November 2021, 11:31:06 »
I have a huge amount of respect for Novelkeys et al., they've all been great participants in & supporters of our community for many years.  I personally have zero inclination to believe any of the vendors are acting in bad faith.

It is a bummer to see radio silence from JTK, it would be good for business on their part to share more progress details if they are making progress -- and good for business to be transparent if they are not making progress.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #133 on: Wed, 10 November 2021, 15:42:33 »
hi, don't DM me for updates on this, i don't work with JTK beyond my own sets/being good friends with their english speaking rep. thanks.

i do know that this project is still being worked on, but i have no details beyond a passing comment from the rep that they moved some tooling for it into their new factory while i was talking to him about something else.

beyond that please stop bothering me about this. thanks.
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #134 on: Thu, 11 November 2021, 11:04:44 »
Wow, it's been 2 years already?! I've totally forgotten about joining these.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #135 on: Thu, 11 November 2021, 13:33:58 »
Received another update from JTK. They are hoping to have this finished by end of December. This is pushing back shipping to customers to Q1, 2022.

Again, if anyone wants to cancel their order from NovelKeys - send in a support ticket and we will get you refunded.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #136 on: Fri, 12 November 2021, 21:16:43 »
Received another update from JTK. They are hoping to have this finished by end of December. This is pushing back shipping to customers to Q1, 2022.

Again, if anyone wants to cancel their order from NovelKeys - send in a support ticket and we will get you refunded.
Thank you for the update, I am still waiting for this set.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #137 on: Sat, 13 November 2021, 06:43:48 »
Received another update from JTK. They are hoping to have this finished by end of December. This is pushing back shipping to customers to Q1, 2022.

Again, if anyone wants to cancel their order from NovelKeys - send in a support ticket and we will get you refunded.
Thanks for the update! At least it sounds like things are progressing. I’ve really been looking forward to this set so hopefully the wait is worth it.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #138 on: Fri, 24 December 2021, 19:17:48 »
Almost the end of year 2021. Any progress from JTK?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #139 on: Wed, 29 December 2021, 14:12:15 »
Just got done talking to JTK. Molds are being tested still, and some (if I understood correctly, a majority) had to be remade. Currently JTK is aiming to have molds completed before Chinese New Year, but production will have to take place after CNY.

If there is any other news, I will keep updating.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #140 on: Wed, 29 December 2021, 15:12:38 »
Just got done talking to JTK. Molds are being tested still, and some (if I understood correctly, a majority) had to be remade. Currently JTK is aiming to have molds completed before Chinese New Year, but production will have to take place after CNY.

If there is any other news, I will keep updating.
Thanks for keeping this thread updated. It’s really appreciated.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #141 on: Wed, 02 February 2022, 22:36:42 »
Just checked my outstanding orders and noticed this is still here, how's it progressing

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #142 on: Wed, 02 February 2022, 22:43:24 »
Just checked my outstanding orders and noticed this is still here, how's it progressing
The post just above says that moulds were expected to be completed before CNY (this week) with production to start after.
I would expect to see a proper update from NK some time next week or the week after saying production has started (or the moulds are being redone )

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #143 on: Thu, 03 February 2022, 06:46:19 »
FYI Omnitype agreed to refund my order, albeit not a full refund because they wanted me to pay the Shopify cancellation charges.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #144 on: Fri, 04 March 2022, 21:32:27 »
An update on this would be great. Do we know if moulds are finished and production has started?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #145 on: Tue, 08 March 2022, 17:03:38 »
Well we'll we'll, how the turn tables.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #146 on: Tue, 08 March 2022, 17:30:55 »
An update on this would be great. Do we know if moulds are finished and production has started?

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No solid timeline update, but just yesterday JTK said the molds are still in testing. I asked for a more significant update to share, but did not receive a reply yet.


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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #147 on: Tue, 08 March 2022, 18:28:42 »
An update on this would be great. Do we know if moulds are finished and production has started?

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No solid timeline update, but just yesterday JTK said the molds are still in testing. I asked for a more significant update to share, but did not receive a reply yet.
Thanks for the continued effort squeeze info out of jtk for this project. Hopefully they have some good news in the coming weeks/months

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #148 on: Tue, 08 March 2022, 19:43:57 »
More than 2 years later and they are still working on molds. Lovely :)

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #149 on: Sat, 26 March 2022, 13:29:08 »
I haven't forgotten

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #150 on: Tue, 12 April 2022, 04:24:29 »
Hoping for an update that the moulds are done some time soon 🥲

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #151 on: Wed, 20 April 2022, 07:47:21 »
No real good update here. Unfortunately JTK has now said to me that they do not have a time estimate for these sets. They are having issues with 8 keys that are not coming out correctly with the glossy surface. I have asked numerous times for a new estimated timeline, but have not received one.

Again, if anyone wants to cancel their order with NovelKeys, please send us a message via our support system. We offer full refunds on any cancellations. I am very sorry that this is taking so long.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #152 on: Thu, 21 April 2022, 07:06:48 »
That's too bad. I really liked the look of this one. Cheers to Novelkeys for being a standup company.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #153 on: Tue, 31 May 2022, 07:24:14 »
Any news on the JTK front? Starting to wonder if this project is dead in the water..?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #154 on: Tue, 31 May 2022, 11:14:24 »
Any news on the JTK front? Starting to wonder if this project is dead in the water..?

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Same as before unfortunately. I do believe it is being worked out, but very very slowly.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #155 on: Wed, 01 June 2022, 04:17:07 »
We're close to 3 years and they're still working on the molds? Interesting.
Would be good if the vendors would take responsibility for this fiasco by cancelling the project and refund everyone imo.
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #156 on: Wed, 01 June 2022, 09:14:59 »
We're close to 3 years and they're still working on the molds? Interesting.
Would be good if the vendors would take responsibility for this fiasco by cancelling the project and refund everyone imo.

I have offered full refunds to anyone who would like to cancel. Anyone who has requested received a refund in full and is not out any money.

I am not the lead vendor on this, and can not "cancel" the project. However, no one is stuck, and anyone can opt out with NovelKeys.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #157 on: Wed, 01 June 2022, 16:30:50 »
We're close to 3 years and they're still working on the molds? Interesting.
Would be good if the vendors would take responsibility for this fiasco by cancelling the project and refund everyone imo.

I have offered full refunds to anyone who would like to cancel. Anyone who has requested received a refund in full and is not out any money.

I am not the lead vendor on this, and can not "cancel" the project. However, no one is stuck, and anyone can opt out with NovelKeys.
I see you giving us updates and it's very much appreciated. Personally, I'm still  holding out for these so please stay vigilant with the pressure on JTK.
Keep it up sir!

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #158 on: Wed, 01 June 2022, 19:13:58 »
Any words from JTK about this HSA? It is like almost zero update from them.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #159 on: Tue, 12 July 2022, 06:56:44 »
Noone:...
Me:

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #160 on: Tue, 02 August 2022, 22:15:05 »
I still have hope. 🙏

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #161 on: Wed, 03 August 2022, 07:18:33 »
I have a couple emails out to JTK, and messages on Discord. I have not heard back yet. I will keep pushing for an update here.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #162 on: Thu, 04 August 2022, 06:27:12 »
An update!


No timeline, but JTK says they have 3 molds to finish, and then it should be ready for production. I'll keep pressing for more details, but we have a response!

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #163 on: Mon, 08 August 2022, 08:32:13 »
Thank you NK for the great effort in pushing JTK. This december will mark 3rd year since initial GB.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #164 on: Thu, 18 August 2022, 05:10:14 »
So we're tracking along at about 1 mould per month, hopefully looking at November production

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #165 on: Fri, 26 August 2022, 23:12:30 »
Anyone in the us want sell their beige reservation? DM me

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #166 on: Tue, 06 September 2022, 09:23:44 »
JTK just messaged me and said they are on track to finish this month. Most likely that would mean NovelKeys will receive their sets October-November.

JTK is also included a free reversed color base kit for all customers. So for the people remaining, you will receive WoB and BoW base kits from NovelKeys with your order. Its been the longest journey, but the pictures JTK sent look pretty good. We are almost there.


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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #167 on: Tue, 06 September 2022, 15:26:08 »
Yoooooooo it's been an epic wait but that's a generous extra from JTK!  Photo looks lovely, can't wait to finally put caps from NK on my NK65.  :)

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #168 on: Tue, 06 September 2022, 22:06:04 »
Oh my lord it's finally happening! Also that's a very nice bonus for JTK to include
Really looking forward to to getting these on a board

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #169 on: Wed, 07 September 2022, 03:47:53 »
JTK just messaged me and said they are on track to finish this month. Most likely that would mean NovelKeys will receive their sets October-November.

JTK is also included a free reversed color base kit for all customers. So for the people remaining, you will receive WoB and BoW base kits from NovelKeys with your order. Its been the longest journey, but the pictures JTK sent look pretty good. We are almost there.

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Safe to assume that the gift is for every shop/proxy ordering the set? 




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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #170 on: Wed, 07 September 2022, 05:28:25 »
Safe to assume that the gift is for every shop/proxy ordering the set?

I would think, but I can not say for sure. JTK worded it like that would be the case for all customers.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #171 on: Thu, 29 September 2022, 06:16:14 »
Good news, zfrontier started delivering the kits in China. I can confirm the gifted additional set. I received BoW and WoB.
As I don't live in China anymore, a friend received the kits for me, so I can't say anything about quality, etc.
I just wanted to share the (finally) good news!
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #172 on: Thu, 29 September 2022, 08:19:47 »
Good news, zfrontier started delivering the kits in China. I can confirm the gifted additional set. I received BoW and WoB.
As I don't live in China anymore, a friend received the kits for me, so I can't say anything about quality, etc.
I just wanted to share the (finally) good news!
Good news indeed! Thanks for sharing

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #173 on: Mon, 21 November 2022, 11:23:09 »
Any update on when this is hitting Omnitype now that it's going out through ZFrontier? Desperately wanting an extras set of BoB.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #174 on: Wed, 30 November 2022, 12:00:14 »
One more month until we can all claim the street cred of waiting out a 4-year GB.  Honestly, that's way better than actually having the caps.  I'm sure some of you already have a 4-year under your belt but this is my first.  ^-^

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #175 on: Mon, 02 January 2023, 20:51:27 »
😤

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #176 on: Mon, 09 January 2023, 18:33:59 »
Last update from the JTK Discord.

Are the US vendors waiting on the extra keys or something?
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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #177 on: Wed, 11 January 2023, 10:20:04 »
Last update from the JTK Discord.

Are the US vendors waiting on the extra keys or something?

Has anyone received any sets?

sounds like a joke now

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #178 on: Wed, 11 January 2023, 10:55:30 »
It sounds like JTK is continuing to add bits and bobs to the set and leaving it up to vendors as to when to draw a cutoff line and ship the first run of product?  I trust the vendors to make a good customer service call.  We've already waited this long, if I get a set in 3 more months but it's got xx more compatibility keys, I'm happy with that.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #179 on: Fri, 13 January 2023, 11:52:28 »
Omnitype just updated their status page to say the sets have arrived and are being organized for GB fulfillment: https://omnitype.com/blogs/timelines/hsa-biege-on-brown

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #180 on: Fri, 13 January 2023, 13:29:47 »
Some people with Command65 boards are going to be very pleased.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #181 on: Thu, 26 January 2023, 12:07:51 »
Update from Omnitype: Order fulfillment paused - we are awaiting an ETA update for some missing keycaps.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #182 on: Thu, 26 January 2023, 14:10:24 »
Our keycaps are received! We did get in an extra set of the reverse caps for anyone who was part of the preorder.

There are a couple missing caps, and a couple extras included. We will be sending out emails to our remaining participants and letting them know the details here. We will be shipping out what we have in hand this coming week, and then shipping out the missing caps once they arrive so that there is no more delay.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #183 on: Tue, 31 January 2023, 02:27:05 »
Our keycaps are received! We did get in an extra set of the reverse caps for anyone who was part of the preorder.

There are a couple missing caps, and a couple extras included. We will be sending out emails to our remaining participants and letting them know the details here. We will be shipping out what we have in hand this coming week, and then shipping out the missing caps once they arrive so that there is no more delay.
Will NK have any BoB extras or only WoB?

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #184 on: Thu, 02 February 2023, 20:05:32 »
Woooohoooooo!  This rules, thanks everybody who worked on it!

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #185 on: Fri, 24 March 2023, 18:00:11 »
Any word on when the missing BoB keycaps will be making their way to Omnitype? They said extras won't be released until the missing caps are received.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #186 on: Thu, 27 April 2023, 12:25:01 »
Looks like ZF has sent updated kits with the extra keys. Just saw one on mechmarket for BOW and WOB

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #187 on: Sat, 24 June 2023, 23:21:38 »
Any word on when the missing BoB keycaps will be making their way to Omnitype? They said extras won't be released until the missing caps are received.

I still haven’t received my extra keys from Omnitype. Has anyone else? Got my extra keys from NovelKeys for WoB/BoW weeks ago.

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #188 on: Tue, 27 June 2023, 14:06:21 »
Any word on when the missing BoB keycaps will be making their way to Omnitype? They said extras won't be released until the missing caps are received.

I still haven’t received my extra keys from Omnitype. Has anyone else? Got my extra keys from NovelKeys for WoB/BoW weeks ago.

I was told by Omnitype at the beginning of the month that we would hear about extras at the end of this month. Getting pretty close to the end without word...

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #189 on: Wed, 05 July 2023, 21:43:05 »
Just got an email from Omnitype about the extra caps, so it looks like they're finally about to go out.

Now that I've had these caps for a while, as a participant in the group buy for both of the initial colorways and a veteran of The Longest Wait, I have a few thoughts on the caps themselves.

First, the profile is great overall, and I love the glossy finish of the caps. The sound is good, as is the typing feel, in my view. JTK really did deliver on the original vision there, so I have to give them credit.

However, there are a few gripes I think are worthy of note.

First, several of the caps are not formed well on the stems, particularly the +/= key, on multiple of the four sets I wound up getting. (The deep-dish F key is bad, as well, at least on my WoB set.) These caps just kind of fall off of some switches when I try to use those keys. This problem is worse with JTK switches with P3 stems like Durock POMs and Epsilons, where all HSA caps are just generally loose. I can't really use them on some boards, as a result.

If you have some HSA caps, check the fit on the +/= key in particular. Would be curious to hear everyone's impressions. Seems to me like this might be a straight-up defect across most HSA sets.

Second, I've noticed that some of the alpha key legends are composed of much thicker lines than others, to the point where it really looks jarring. This effect is most noticeable with dark legends on brighter backdrops like BoW and brown on beige. It's harder to see on WoB and BoB, for whatever reason. BoW looks super janky to me now that I've seen it.

Examples here:

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The lettering on E is thick, while the lines are way thinner on R. Same for B (thin) and N/M (thick).

I assume others of you have seen this issue? It's not great with the inverted sets, and it seems like JTK needs to address this issue before running more sets.

Finally, I'm super happy to have the bonus inverted key sets and the extra keys they've sent out later, including especially the extra "B" for Alice-style layouts, but I'm bummed that convex short space bars aren't part of the mix. In the years since we first ordered HSA, split keyboards have become much more popular, and I'm sad these sets don't have short bars for use with my favorite layout. Would be great if we got a chance to buy some short bars in a future HSA run as a separate kit or something!

Anyhow, would love to hear the thoughts of other HSA keycap owners who have been living with them for a while now.
« Last Edit: Wed, 05 July 2023, 21:45:22 by Damage »

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Re: [GB] HSA White on Black - Beige on Brown
« Reply #190 on: Fri, 29 September 2023, 06:35:21 »
I bought myself HSA Hyperfuse and they look and feel AMAZING!
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