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« Reply #100 on: Wed, 31 August 2011, 10:32:59 »
Does anyone know how long it takes for paypal to clear my refund? They took a total of 50.73 for one payment and one refunded payment but it hasn't been returned to my account, yet.
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« Reply #101 on: Wed, 31 August 2011, 10:34:59 »
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Does anyone know how long it takes for paypal to clear my refund? They took a total of 50.73 for one payment and one refunded payment but it hadn't been returned to me account yet

In Germany it takes 3-4 days. Investment bankers:)

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« Reply #102 on: Wed, 31 August 2011, 11:39:31 »
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Checking the first page I only see four people missing.
Go guys!


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« Reply #103 on: Wed, 31 August 2011, 15:07:06 »
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Thanks but I prefer sharp spacebars like SP/Topre over Cherry or Filco. The angle is just perfect if you reverse them.

 
Well, I don't see any reason why the same method couldn't be applied to a SP spacebar to make it fit a Leopold as I did to the Cherry one to make it work on my Filco... *IF* they are the exact same length.  How long is your Leopold space bar?  I also have a couple space bars that aren't standard 104-cherry length, but they're all off Cherry boards.  (various space saver and/or winkeyless models.)
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« Reply #104 on: Wed, 31 August 2011, 15:37:51 »
Just 3 more unpaid orders - get it together people!

I think toast is the only one who hasn't answered my pm's yet.

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« Reply #105 on: Wed, 31 August 2011, 16:49:45 »
Can anyone verify the quanities for me?

I count 52 White // 48 Black

I'm a little tired today... and sorry for the double post.


EDIT: Thanks for checking - I keep getting 48, maybe I'm retarded

Order goes in tomorrow!
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« Reply #106 on: Wed, 31 August 2011, 20:18:43 »
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Can anyone verify the quanities for me?

I count 52 White // 48 Black

I'm a little tired today... and sorry for the double post.

I got 52 White and 47 Black.... somebody doublecheck me =P
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« Reply #107 on: Wed, 31 August 2011, 23:07:52 »
I got 51 white(1 unpaid - sherryton, 52 if toast pays), 48 black. If I were you I would order 55 of each so you'd have a few to sell to those who missed out(for $30 each :), or to make complete sets if a few keys are mangled.
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« Reply #108 on: Thu, 01 September 2011, 03:39:33 »
@Cycloverid. - would it be too late to add another white to my order ? Let me know and I can pay you today.

Edit: please disregard request
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« Reply #109 on: Thu, 01 September 2011, 07:49:03 »
jpm - I may not be using my white sets.  I ordered those in anticipation of getting some winkeyless key sets from Ascaii's GB and I don't know if that is actually happening.  If you still want some whenever it comes time to ship these out drop me a message.
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« Reply #110 on: Thu, 01 September 2011, 08:02:26 »
I do hope it will happen (Ascaii's GB).
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« Reply #111 on: Thu, 01 September 2011, 11:33:48 »
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I do hope it will happen (Ascaii's GB).

It's not looking super hopeful. :-/

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« Reply #112 on: Thu, 01 September 2011, 15:49:27 »
I got the invoice from Melissa, and the payment has been made.

I'll have a couple extras per color just in case.  The prices worked out perfectly everyone!  Thanks for the quick payments.


Now we wait!  The next big update will probably be pictures of the prototype key.

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« Reply #113 on: Thu, 01 September 2011, 15:51:20 »
Too bad there is no spacebar for the Leo. I guess I have to wait for the group buy 4.
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« Reply #114 on: Thu, 01 September 2011, 16:09:58 »
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I got the invoice from Melissa, and the payment has been made.

I'll have a couple extras per color just in case.  The prices worked out perfectly everyone!  Thanks for the quick payments.


Now we wait!  The next big update will probably be pictures of the prototype key.

Awesome man.  How long are we looking at until the prototype?  5 weeks?

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« Reply #115 on: Thu, 01 September 2011, 16:23:42 »
Melissa said lead time is 5 weeks.  The prototype should be sent out at the start of the second week of EDIT:October (derp) I'd think.  The color samples took like 2 days to get to my house!  So the shipping will be really snappy.

I'm hoping the prototyping phase will only add an additional week onto the whole process.   It gives me peace of mind knowing that I can trap any mistakes that might happen, though - so obviously non-negotiable.  :)
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« Reply #116 on: Thu, 01 September 2011, 18:15:46 »
Thanks for not half-assing it cycloverid. Well worth the wait.

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« Reply #117 on: Thu, 01 September 2011, 23:28:05 »
Finally, I do not have to use my poorly modded off-center to center stem Caps Lock anymore.
And proper Spacebar to boot!
Hope all goes well.

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« Reply #118 on: Fri, 02 September 2011, 00:35:45 »
Oh noes such a long wait :(
But it's gonna be great!
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« Reply #119 on: Sun, 04 September 2011, 21:16:09 »
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Oh noes such a long wait :(
But it's gonna be great!

 
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« Reply #120 on: Wed, 07 September 2011, 16:58:48 »
Hey everyone,

Melissa is asking how many posts are in the spacebar.  I'm hoping that this is very standardized.

I assume that pretty much every keyboard these days uses 3 posts on the space bar?


Sorry, the only mechanical keyboard I own is a Filco - and I am certainly no expert.

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« Reply #121 on: Wed, 07 September 2011, 17:16:36 »
The 'standard' bars from SP in round 3 had 4 stems, to suit both Filco and Cherry spacings (just picture the one ripster posted without the 2nd and 5th stems).

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« Reply #122 on: Wed, 07 September 2011, 18:21:55 »
Thanks for the replies.

ripster: Melissa tells me they don't have the tooling for that.  So I guess we'll have to go with the 4 socketed spacebar.


It's a good thing I asked... I was looking through the wiki and saw a few 3-socket space keys and assumed that was the usual.

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« Reply #123 on: Wed, 07 September 2011, 18:26:57 »
They can make 3-socket space keys that fit the Leopold/Steelseries/Das as well. I wish you would include those as well.
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« Reply #124 on: Wed, 07 September 2011, 18:44:16 »
RiGS: You're not even on the list!  But yeah, I guess this opens up a topic I hadn't considered.  

Maybe I can see if I can get both.  Who would need a 3 socket space?

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« Reply #125 on: Wed, 07 September 2011, 18:47:05 »
If you can do this, then you can count me in.
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« Reply #126 on: Wed, 07 September 2011, 18:47:12 »
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RiGS: You're not even on the list!  But yeah, I guess this opens up a topic I hadn't considered.  

Maybe I can see if I can get both.  Who would need a 3 socket space?

I own a Leo so I'd love to have access to those spacebars. But I wouldn't want them replaced, I'd want them added. Since they are aren't doubleshots they couldn't be too expensive I'd presume. I would pay the difference to add 1 white and 1 black to my order.

On a side note, what is the height on these kits compared to real Cherry Corp keys. I assume these will be slightly higher than the Chery Corp keys?
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« Reply #127 on: Wed, 07 September 2011, 19:00:48 »
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I own a Leo so I'd love to have access to those spacebars. But I wouldn't want them replaced, I'd want them added. Since they are aren't doubleshots they couldn't be too expensive I'd presume. I would pay the difference to add 1 white and 1 black to my order.

On a side note, what is the height on these kits compared to real Cherry Corp keys. I assume these will be slightly higher than the Chery Corp keys?

+1, I think they are close, though I prefer the key profile of the SP spacebar.
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« Reply #128 on: Thu, 08 September 2011, 06:23:21 »
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Thanks for the replies.

ripster: Melissa tells me they don't have the tooling for that.  So I guess we'll have to go with the 4 socketed spacebar.


It's a good thing I asked... I was looking through the wiki and saw a few 3-socket space keys and assumed that was the usual.

That is usual, but the switch itself is in a different position on a Cherry board than it is on a Filco/Das/WASD, and putting both posts for the switch don't cause any interference problems (I'm using a Cherry spacebar on my Filco right now with the center post for the Filco switch epoxied in and the original Cherry center post left in place with no problems.)  So for an aftermarket kit using four posts is definitely the way to go, unless you make them like the picture Ripster posted.

Maybe some pics will explain better - this thread (as well as being my keyboard) is exactly the reason these moogle kits were created, have a look at the space bar

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?20990-My-own-anti-otaku-Filco-(w-modem-burning-pics)

in the one good pic of the space bar in that post, you see the original Cherry offset post in black, and the centered Filco one epoxied in in white.  On a Cherry board, the switch is offset to the right of the keyboard when you look down on it.
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« Reply #129 on: Thu, 08 September 2011, 09:10:53 »
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RiGS: You're not even on the list!  But yeah, I guess this opens up a topic I hadn't considered.  

Maybe I can see if I can get both.  Who would need a 3 socket space?
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« Reply #130 on: Thu, 08 September 2011, 09:21:48 »
Adding a second spacebar shouldn't increase the price that much. Additionally you would make a lot of Leopold/Steelseries/Das/Zowie folks happy.
Could you ask a quote for that?
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« Reply #131 on: Thu, 08 September 2011, 10:01:33 »
Whatever you guys decide to do, I'd like to opt-out of the additional spacebar for my order. Don't need it.

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« Reply #132 on: Thu, 08 September 2011, 10:09:07 »
If you can't justify adding $1,5 USD extra to help out some fellow geekhackers, then I will take your spacebar. The more is better, since ABS gets shiny quickly.
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« Reply #133 on: Thu, 08 September 2011, 10:10:59 »
If you pay for it, go ahead and take it. When it comes to sorting them, though we just need to make sure you get it.

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« Reply #134 on: Thu, 08 September 2011, 10:49:39 »
I would love, love, love Leo compatible space bars!  DO IT :)
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« Reply #135 on: Mon, 12 September 2011, 16:03:48 »
Here's the e-mail response from Melissa about the spacebars:


As we would have to pull the tooling to change the configuration on the spacebar, we need to charge for the unit price at the quantity you are looking to order:
10 space bars - $6.13 / each
20 space bars - $3.68 / each
 
Shipping costs will stay the same.




Obviously this would be an added expense for those who wanted them.  Seems kinda expensive?

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« Reply #136 on: Mon, 12 September 2011, 17:42:55 »
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Here's the e-mail response from Melissa about the spacebars:

As we would have to pull the tooling to change the configuration on the spacebar, we need to charge for the unit price at the quantity you are looking to order:
10 space bars - $6.13 / each
20 space bars - $3.68 / each
 
Shipping costs will stay the same.  Seems kinda expensive?

Kinda.  But since we only have two colors for this GB, one of each would do it.  I'm in for at least (1) black & (1) white as I have (2) Leos.
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« Reply #137 on: Mon, 12 September 2011, 17:56:33 »
I think the best bet is to create a new leo spacebar group buy.  It would probably be a fairly popular group buy as a lot of leo users want replacement spacebars.  But not all these leo owners are also getting a moogle kit here.  Most, if not all, of us have already paid for our moogle kit orders.  And if you have leo, chances are that it is a black version.  So the existing black leo spacebar that is already on your leo keyboard would work fine with your black Cherry double shots and the black moogle kit.

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« Reply #138 on: Mon, 12 September 2011, 20:04:24 »
Good call litster - this saves me an extra bit of headache as well.  Now I can just focus on making sure everything else is awesome.  Sorry everyone.

TL:DR - the spacebar shipping with this kit will be the 4 socket one.
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« Reply #139 on: Wed, 14 September 2011, 02:37:52 »
It seems like some people dropped off.  Are we good to go with the original price?
I can absorb some of the cancelled orders if you need me to. LMK cycloverid :)
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« Reply #140 on: Wed, 14 September 2011, 09:56:14 »
What was the key set that compliments the moogle kit?
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« Reply #141 on: Wed, 14 September 2011, 10:07:16 »
Full size Cherry G80 or G81 with doubleshots.  The -1800 boards still don't have everything you need to put doubleshots on a standard 104 key MX board or even a standard tenkeyless (right shift is wrong, numpad is wrong, Del/End/PgDn are wrong profile)
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« Reply #142 on: Wed, 14 September 2011, 19:35:52 »
Soulfree914:  We made out perfectly on the pricing (100 was the target, we got 99).  I ordered a few extras, but I'll deal with that after everything is sorted!


Only a few weeks left until the prototype key is in if all goes well.

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« Reply #143 on: Wed, 14 September 2011, 21:58:16 »
I'll be looking forward to one of the extras. I can even pay a little bonus, because I missed the deadlines :D

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« Reply #144 on: Wed, 14 September 2011, 22:27:58 »
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Only a few weeks left until the prototype key is in if all goes well.

Hurray!  Freakin' excited here to see how the custom legends turn out.

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« Reply #145 on: Wed, 14 September 2011, 23:53:07 »
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Soulfree914:  We made out perfectly on the pricing (100 was the target, we got 99).  I ordered a few extras, but I'll deal with that after everything is sorted!


Only a few weeks left until the prototype key is in if all goes well.


Ok, just wanted to help out.

Just one small question. I have a cherry doubleshot set without the left shift, right shift and the bottom-most row..
but I see that this moggle kit does not include the left shift. Any way to get the left shift? Any leftovers you might have?
Also, what color code are you using for the light beige and dark beige?
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« Reply #146 on: Thu, 15 September 2011, 00:18:01 »
GAW = Grey

WQ = Off-white


If you know of anything better let me know.
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« Reply #147 on: Thu, 15 September 2011, 00:19:21 »
Quote from: soulfree914;416356
Ok, just wanted to help out.

Just one small question. I have a cherry doubleshot set without the left shift, right shift and the bottom-most row..
but I see that this moggle kit does not include the left shift. Any way to get the left shift? Any leftovers you might have?
Also, what color code are you using for the light beige and dark beige?

99hk.biz was selling full sets of Cherry double shots and now selling ~ and backspace double shots here: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?21950-Cherry-Double-Shot-Backspace-and
You might want to ping him to see if he has a left shift that he can sell to you.

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« Reply #148 on: Sun, 18 September 2011, 20:11:43 »
I just saw reaper's post about receiving a genuine Cherry Corp red escape key, and had a thought.  If the custom Cherry font legends on our moogle kits turn out well, would people be interested in a red escape group buy with a similar Cherry lookalike custom legend?  Perhaps bundled with RGB versions of the ctrl, alt, and shift from this group buy?

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« Reply #149 on: Sun, 18 September 2011, 20:15:04 »
I don't believe SP can do the Cherry Corp font...

Also, the big deal with that key is its thickness and rarity, not the font...