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Title: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: nicell on Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:31:13
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Hi there! The nice!nano is a drop-in replacement for the Pro Micro that offers wireless connectivity via Bluetooth. I've been developing this for the past five months, and it's almost ready for a group buy! Please fill out the IC form to let me know what your preferences for the group buy would be along with other details like firmware.

IC Form: https://forms.gle/xPpzeZ8vbsfPRyRF9

Album: https://imgur.com/a/f5TvyQF

Discord to follow the nice!nano more closely: https://discord.gg/CHd6hUy

The nice!nano is thinner, more powerful, and most importantly has wireless Bluetooth abilities built in. Here's a list of the features:

I'm super excited to get these in people's hands! Let me know what you think.
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: jimboytacos on Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:09:55
Yes yes yes YES!

I want one. Maybe 2. Maybe 3. I a sucker for wireless. 
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: suicidal_orange on Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:12:24
I don't have a problem with wires but plenty of people do and this looks like a great solution :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: DarkSphere00 on Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:30:02
This looks great, it could be a perfect replacement for the Elite-C.

One thing is not clear to me though: being outside of the US, I would need to purchase the battery separately am I right?
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: taintedPurple on Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:34:50
Oh man this is awesome!!
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: vosechu on Fri, 29 May 2020, 20:57:38
Super duper in. Not messing around, I’ll probably want 50. Qmk is mandatory for me.
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: nicell on Fri, 29 May 2020, 22:08:42
One thing is not clear to me though: being outside of the US, I would need to purchase the battery separately am I right?

Yes you'll have to find a battery on your own due to shipping restrictions.
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: myyrddraal on Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:05:40
Definitely in. How do you program the nrf chip? BT has flaws for a secure operations it would be good to have fixed BT fw.


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Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: CrazyNun on Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:24:27
Sorry if this a noobish question..but will this basically add bt capability to any build?
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: Bonsa on Sat, 30 May 2020, 09:00:27
I've been wanting to build a wireless board lately... nice! Hopefully this becomes an in-stock item on some sites. Or is it a one time only thing?
Also, are you not sure yet to make it QMK compatable? Because that's definitely a must for me.
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: nicell on Sat, 30 May 2020, 10:47:16
Sorry if this a noobish question..but will this basically add bt capability to any build?

This is meant more as a replacement for a Pro Micro, but you could manually handwire an existing PCB in theory (doesn't sound like much fun though).
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: nicell on Sat, 30 May 2020, 10:49:55
I've been wanting to build a wireless board lately... nice! Hopefully this becomes an in-stock item on some sites. Or is it a one time only thing?
Also, are you not sure yet to make it QMK compatable? Because that's definitely a must for me.

Hoping to make in an in-stock item after the group buy. Just need the capital :)

It's not QMK upstream compatible because of licensing issues, but there are forks that support it (licensing is questionable). I would recommend the BlueMicro firmware. Made specifically for the nRF52 chips, and I'll be making docs on getting started.
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Sat, 30 May 2020, 11:27:49
Most yesly.
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: nmur on Sat, 30 May 2020, 14:10:40
I have almost no use for this as I prefer aluminium boards, but I did want to say that this is pretty badass
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: Tennstrong on Sat, 30 May 2020, 20:53:49
Seems a bit similar to the BLEmicro-pro by Sekigon-Gonnoc at this stage (https://github.com/sekigon-gonnoc/BLE-Micro-Pro), who also has a qmk repo that works with it, newer revision is type-c. That said, fun project, hopefully you can add some features we haven't seen yet.
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: nicell on Sat, 30 May 2020, 21:03:33
Seems a bit similar to the BLEmicro-pro by Sekigon-Gonnoc at this stage (https://github.com/sekigon-gonnoc/BLE-Micro-Pro), who also has a qmk repo that works with it, newer revision is type-c. That said, fun project, hopefully you can add some features we haven't seen yet.

It's quite similar to that board. My board should be compatible with that QMK repo. I haven't seen the USB-C version. Do you have a link? Also I don't believe that board has a LiPo charger on board like mine. Among other nice things like it being extremely thin and exposing extra pins.
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: godzillq25 on Sat, 30 May 2020, 21:50:33
will this be stocked or rerun coz i dont think ill be able to afford it rn being jobless(yes it my issue), but wondering what will you do after this limited run. maybe get in touch with some venders and they might want to buy of u and could probs reduce ur production costs too.
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: Top Right Logo on Sat, 30 May 2020, 22:24:04

Hoping to make in an in-stock item after the group buy. Just need the capital :)



Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: Tennstrong on Sun, 31 May 2020, 04:42:50
Seems a bit similar to the BLEmicro-pro by Sekigon-Gonnoc at this stage (https://github.com/sekigon-gonnoc/BLE-Micro-Pro), who also has a qmk repo that works with it, newer revision is type-c. That said, fun project, hopefully you can add some features we haven't seen yet.

It's quite similar to that board. My board should be compatible with that QMK repo. I haven't seen the USB-C version. Do you have a link? Also I don't believe that board has a LiPo charger on board like mine. Among other nice things like it being extremely thin and exposing extra pins.
On board lipo charge will be neat for sure, good news to hear it should be compatible. I think that could be pretty dang handy for some more elaborate handwires or fiddly cases, is it going to be able to be done through the same port while in use?
I believe gonnoc was proto'ing his usb-c version a few weeks back, thought I had seen an updated link but I can't find it in bookmarks https://twitter.com/_gonnoc/status/1253251616657993728

Edit: https://nogikes.booth.pm/items/1177319 it's up now
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: myyrddraal on Mon, 01 June 2020, 03:05:45
Definitely in. How do you program the nrf chip? BT has flaws for a secure operations it would be good to have fixed BT fw.


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Amy answer on my question?


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Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: nicell on Mon, 01 June 2020, 15:03:27
Amy answer on my question?


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Sorry I missed your post. You can program it using either DFU or DFU over UF2, which is like dragging a file to a USB drive. Look here for more details on the bootloader used: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_nRF52_Bootloader

I'm not aware of the BT security flaws. I know that AES 128bit encryption is used when a device is paired using this board. What flaws are you thinking of?
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: w3djyt on Tue, 02 June 2020, 16:01:43
All right, I'm going to ask the dumb question because I can't quite find the answer by lurking  :'(

... What boards would we use this with? Can you give examples? From all the recent group buys I've seen, they don't appear to have daughterboards for connectors unless I'm missing something obvious. :/

I'm still curious about this, however, because almost nothing is bluetooth in this community and I'd really like to add that feature to potential board setups.

Sorry for the newbness, and thanks for any help/direction.
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: Aevyn on Tue, 02 June 2020, 16:03:21
All right, I'm going to ask the dumb question because I can't quite find the answer by lurking  :'(

... What boards would we use this with? Can you give examples? From all the recent group buys I've seen, they don't appear to have daughterboards for connectors unless I'm missing something obvious. :/

I'm still curious about this, however, because almost nothing is bluetooth in this community and I'd really like to add that feature to potential board setups.

Sorry for the newbness, and thanks for any help/direction.
Split keyboards that use a pro micro like the kyria, corne, sofle, etc.

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Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: w3djyt on Tue, 02 June 2020, 16:42:57
Split keyboards that use a pro micro like the kyria, corne, sofle, etc.

Ahhh, okay. Thanks for the keywords, I'll go digging.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: myyrddraal on Wed, 03 June 2020, 12:24:50
Amy answer on my question?


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Sorry I missed your post. You can program it using either DFU or DFU over UF2, which is like dragging a file to a USB drive. Look here for more details on the bootloader used: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_nRF52_Bootloader

I'm not aware of the BT security flaws. I know that AES 128bit encryption is used when a device is paired using this board. What flaws are you thinking of?
Especially this: https://www.cisomag.com/bias-vulnerability-affects-bluetooth-devices/
But there are others as well.


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Title: Re: [IC] nice!nano: the super thin, wireless Bluetooth replacement for the Pro Micro
Post by: racha on Mon, 12 October 2020, 11:51:42
I'm so interested, but I don't have the knowledge... How would I go about integrating to an existing keyboard? Do i just replace the existing board with this?

Is there a way to learn this?