[IC] Timber Wolf, GB on 9/20

[VelourFog]

Just was reading the other users question about wanting a real loud board - do you think the lack of a plate can make it quieter assuming one is using quiet switches?  My rig is set up in a lofted part of my bedroom and quiet keyboards are essential to stave wife agro.

[Starius]

so yeah, it supports both

thanks for confirming! two more Qs:

-Do you have a full photo of a built prototype without the keycaps on? would be great to see.

-What is the colour on right? I am assuming the left is the smoke grey? The one on the right has this really nice deep green blueish hue, leaning more on the deep green end.
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I like that color too, just wanted to say. 

[Croktopus]

thanks for confirming! two more Qs:

-Do you have a full photo of a built prototype without the keycaps on? would be great to see.

-What is the colour on right? I am assuming the left is the smoke grey? The one on the right has this really nice deep green blueish hue, leaning more on the deep green end.
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I like that color too, just wanted to say. 

- I don't, but I'm planning to do a basic assembly video next weekend, so there'll be some shots there. fwiw, the pcb is all matte black on the front (right now i do have a silk screen on the front, but im removing that for the GB

- Yeah I like that color too, but 6 colors is already too much. my next GB tho, im getting a bit more creative with colors and i want to have something like that there. this GB i kinda wanted to just do standard stuff for colors

Just was reading the other users question about wanting a real loud board - do you think the lack of a plate can make it quieter assuming one is using quiet switches?  My rig is set up in a lofted part of my bedroom and quiet keyboards are essential to stave wife agro.

sort of. i think it would be more accurate to say that not having a plate won't make it more loud. i think if quietness is your goal, you can design a plated keyboard to be quieter than this one, so i wouldnt sell this as a quiet keyboard, but as long as it's well insulated from your desk (thick deskmats are a lifesaver here) it has relatively little resonance, which is the part of keeb sound that i dont like

[lush_bunny]

tbh i dont think clickies are your best bet on this board. it doesnt support alps or box switches (the two best clicky types ive tried), so you'd be stuck with either mx blue-style switches, or frankenstotles. the latter ive heard good things about, but havent tried.

still, i do think blues get a bad rap (i mean i hate the click jacket noise & rattle, but the tactility is better than i remembered when i tried a new batch recently) so maybe you could make that work, but in general i wouldnt say this keeb is built for clickies, since i do think clicky switches benefit from a plate

you could still make it work, but id recommend focusing on keycaps for that. pbt mt3 in particular sounds amazing with clickies imo, its like black magic

That's a shame, but I don't mind using tactiles on this board. What other types of switches aren't compatible with the Timber's PCB? What about Zealios v2 (My plan B)?

[Croktopus]

tbh i dont think clickies are your best bet on this board. it doesnt support alps or box switches (the two best clicky types ive tried), so you'd be stuck with either mx blue-style switches, or frankenstotles. the latter ive heard good things about, but havent tried.

still, i do think blues get a bad rap (i mean i hate the click jacket noise & rattle, but the tactility is better than i remembered when i tried a new batch recently) so maybe you could make that work, but in general i wouldnt say this keeb is built for clickies, since i do think clicky switches benefit from a plate

you could still make it work, but id recommend focusing on keycaps for that. pbt mt3 in particular sounds amazing with clickies imo, its like black magic

That's a shame, but I don't mind using tactiles on this board. What other types of switches aren't compatible with the Timber's PCB? What about Zealios v2 (My plan B)?

all pcb-mount switches are compatible, so yeah all zeal switches are pcb mount. pretty much all gat and cherry switches have a pcb mount option as well, T1s, everglides, most non-box kailhs...really, kailh box and holy pandas are the only big ones i can think of that arent compatible

[lush_bunny]

all pcb-mount switches are compatible, so yeah all zeal switches are pcb mount. pretty much all gat and cherry switches have a pcb mount option as well, T1s, everglides, most non-box kailhs...really, kailh box and holy pandas are the only big ones i can think of that arent compatible

Thanks for saving me, my sorry ass didn't know box switches only have three legs/pins 

Edit: Also I hope it’s cool, I filled up the IC Form for TBR-B, but I might get the TBR-Prime instead.

[Retrias]

What would be the layout for the next board ?  Would love something like this but in an even bigger non conventional layout

[Croktopus]

all pcb-mount switches are compatible, so yeah all zeal switches are pcb mount. pretty much all gat and cherry switches have a pcb mount option as well, T1s, everglides, most non-box kailhs...really, kailh box and holy pandas are the only big ones i can think of that arent compatible

Thanks for saving me, my sorry ass didn't know box switches only have three legs/pins 

Edit: Also I hope it’s cool, I filled up the IC Form for TBR-B, but I might get the TBR-Prime instead.

Yeah thats no problem i think a lot of people did that lol

What would be the layout for the next board ?  Would love something like this but in an even bigger non conventional layout

IC will be up before this GB goes live, but i'll say that it's bigger in one dimension but not the other

[lush_bunny]

I have another dumb question: If you pick out a layout that has a knob, will the order include a rotary encoder? If not, where can we buy some which are compatible with the Timber Wolf?

[Croktopus]

I have another dumb question: If you pick out a layout that has a knob, will the order include a rotary encoder? If not, where can we buy some which are compatible with the Timber Wolf?

Yeah that sort of info will be gone into detail in the GB post, but basic answer is that it will come with an encoder and knob; basically everything required to fully build except for switches and caps

[hottrout]

Can I just ask if the case and the PCB support ISO layout?

[Croktopus]

Can I just ask if the case and the PCB support ISO layout?

Yup, iso enter and split left shift

[mchaput]

I want this board bad, but I'm an ultraNOOB who never learned to solder...

[soupymeatballs]

I want this board bad, but I'm an ultraNOOB who never learned to solder...

You can always do what I do and have someone else assemble it. Lots of people offer build services.

[VelourFog]

I want this board bad, but I'm an ultraNOOB who never learned to solder...

Hell that's what I plan on doing.  I plan to buy extra PCB's just so I can give a go later.

[Croktopus]

I want this board bad, but I'm an ultraNOOB who never learned to solder...

I want this board bad, but I'm an ultraNOOB who never learned to solder...

Hell that's what I plan on doing.  I plan to buy extra PCB's just so I can give a go later.

soldering's actually pretty easy especially through-hole, which will be all you have to worry about. if you're anxious about it, i recommend watching some youtube videos about it getting a practice kit (you can find them on amazon for super cheap, or get a practice60 on cannonkeys), it will help you get comfortable with it.

[lush_bunny]

soldering's actually pretty easy especially through-hole, which will be all you have to worry about. if you're anxious about it, i recommend watching some youtube videos about it getting a practice kit (you can find them on amazon for super cheap, or get a practice60 on cannonkeys), it will help you get comfortable with it.

Through-hole? Intriguing. So I don't know much about PCBs, but is that why the TBR PCB has none of that gold circuitry I see in other PCBs?

[VelourFog]

Are you still planning to release details on your second board before this group buy?

[Adelscott]

soldering's actually pretty easy especially through-hole, which will be all you have to worry about. if you're anxious about it, i recommend watching some youtube videos about it getting a practice kit (you can find them on amazon for super cheap, or get a practice60 on cannonkeys), it will help you get comfortable with it.

Through-hole? Intriguing. So I don't know much about PCBs, but is that why the TBR PCB has none of that gold circuitry I see in other PCBs?

I think he means "compared to soldering components on a side of the PCB where there's no hole", like this chip :

[Croktopus]

soldering's actually pretty easy especially through-hole, which will be all you have to worry about. if you're anxious about it, i recommend watching some youtube videos about it getting a practice kit (you can find them on amazon for super cheap, or get a practice60 on cannonkeys), it will help you get comfortable with it.

Through-hole? Intriguing. So I don't know much about PCBs, but is that why the TBR PCB has none of that gold circuitry I see in other PCBs?

I think he means "compared to soldering components on a side of the PCB where there's no hole", like this chip :

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yeah, there's plenty of SMD stuff, it's just all taken care of at the factory. so all the end user has to worry about is through hole (switches)

Are you still planning to release details on your second board before this group buy?

i am. doing renders right now. eh **** it i'll post a tease here

[lush_bunny]

yeah, there's plenty of SMD stuff, it's just all taken care of at the factory. so all the end user has to worry about is through hole (switches)

Okay whew.

i am. doing renders right now. eh **** it i'll post a tease here
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Looking pretty👌

[VXQN]

Are you still planning to release details on your second board before this group buy?

i am. doing renders right now. eh **** it i'll post a tease here

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I'm spending a little too much this month to get in on the Timber Wolf but this preview looks excellent as I rarely use the function row but want some funky layout craziness in my life!

[goddream]

soldering's actually pretty easy especially through-hole, which will be all you have to worry about. if you're anxious about it, i recommend watching some youtube videos about it getting a practice kit (you can find them on amazon for super cheap, or get a practice60 on cannonkeys), it will help you get comfortable with it.

Through-hole? Intriguing. So I don't know much about PCBs, but is that why the TBR PCB has none of that gold circuitry I see in other PCBs?

I think he means "compared to soldering components on a side of the PCB where there's no hole", like this chip :

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yeah, there's plenty of SMD stuff, it's just all taken care of at the factory. so all the end user has to worry about is through hole (switches)

Are you still planning to release details on your second board before this group buy?

i am. doing renders right now. eh **** it i'll post a tease here

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holy **** this is it chief

[lush_bunny]

i am. doing renders right now. eh **** it i'll post a tease here
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Wait a minute did the side profile change?? Coz I think I'm digging it.

Edit: No F-Row, and vertical 2u bars on both sides... interesting. Do you really want all my money?  )'

Edit 2: IS THAT A 65% + LEFT NUMPAD + KNOB?

Edit 3: I hope it's not too soon after the Timber Wolf 

[VelourFog]

Oh have mercy.  Appreciate you sharing the next idea before this GB, probably will just go with one in this GB now =)

[Croktopus]

i am. doing renders right now. eh **** it i'll post a tease here
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Wait a minute did the side profile change?? Coz I think I'm digging it.

Edit: No F-Row, and vertical 2u bars on both sides... interesting. Do you really want all my money?  )'

Edit 2: IS THAT A 65% + LEFT NUMPAD + KNOB?

Edit 3: I hope it's not too soon after the Timber Wolf 

still rendering for the IC, but important to make clear that this won't run until Timber Wolf GB is fulfilled Part of the reason I'm trying to put the IC out before the Timber Wolf GB is to like, get that out of the way so I can focus on the Timber Wolf for the entire GB period.

[ExtraSaltyBS]

Are you planning to run this GB later with a bigger MOQ to reduce the price?

[VelourFog]

Are you planning to run this GB later with a bigger MOQ to reduce the price?

Not OP, but believe he has stated running smaller MOQ as this is a first GB they have conducted.  He has already raised the total boards he was willing to sell from 20 to 40ish so I’d say we’re pretty lucky in that regard. 

[lush_bunny]

It's already the 20th in my country but we're 15 hours advance of PST. I can't wait to get my hands on this board UGH.

[VelourFog]

It's already the 20th in my country but we're 15 hours advance of PST. I can't wait to get my hands on this board UGH.

Yeah I’m going to be pretty sad if I miss out.   Kind of trying to design my own key set - specifically novelties around it.  https://m.imgur.com/a/CrnG1og

[Croktopus]

GB post is up

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102520.0

Doing final preparations for the GB now

[dibstern]

Ooooh pretty. I’ll track this.

[Croktopus]

oh yeah https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ODbtgi63lC6dMuo9HLnzPMIQW23OrphRB0QA2bqjVZo/edit?usp=sharing keep forgetting to post this here - build guide

[Lord_Rabel]

Wow it looks interesting

[Dunne]

end game potentially or end me potentially