Author Topic: Poker DIY kit - EXCLUSIVELY AVAILABLE AT GEEKHACK ! ! ! (Read 80374 times)

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #150 on:** Wed, 02 May 2012, 17:16:11 »

If only they would have made a real 'special' for us with 1.5 modifer mount and programmable controller, I would have been all over it.

For those blacks lovers, see my sale thread for a good deal...

iMav · « **Reply #151 on:** Wed, 02 May 2012, 17:21:12 »

BTW, the plate will actually be black in color (no other color options at this time).

I will have pricing for switches shortly. These switches can be used either directly on the PCB or plate-mounted.

Stay tuned

mkawa · « **Reply #152 on:** Wed, 02 May 2012, 17:22:23 »

here's the mounted controller package for keebler

[ Attachment Invalid Or Does Not Exist ] 49706[/ATTACH]

edit: thanks imav!! so definitely no pcb-only packages?

tsangan · « **Reply #153 on:** Wed, 02 May 2012, 19:18:49 »

Quote from: dante;588571

If it is at all possible can you stock some Cherry MX Clears switches? I'm not interested in the DIY kit, but I'd like some of these for other project boards.

Seeing as Vortex only has MX red/blue/brown/black I wouldn't get my hopes up on clears

mkawa · « **Reply #154 on:** Wed, 02 May 2012, 19:28:16 »

it would probably be easier and cheaper for a handful of people to GB digikey or mouser for clears

i would wait until after the switch GB shipments go out first though; i suspect at least a few people will be offloading switches they discover they don't want/need at that point.

The_Ed · « **Reply #155 on:** Wed, 02 May 2012, 21:16:17 »

Can those squirrel keycaps be bought separately?

mkawa · « **Reply #156 on:** Wed, 02 May 2012, 21:23:00 »

yes, ekw808/marcglw are selling them in another thread in this forum

keebler64 · « **Reply #157 on:** Wed, 02 May 2012, 21:25:10 »

Quote from: mkawa;588592

it would probably be easier and cheaper for a handful of people to GB digikey or mouser for clears

i would wait until after the switch GB shipments go out first though; i suspect at least a few people will be offloading switches they discover they don't want/need at that point.

512/8=64
64*.73=$46.72

So, 8 people could pitch in $47 and buy enough Cherry MX Clears for 64 keys a piece. Enough to build 8 TKL Pokers with 3 spare keys. Not bad.

Edit: From Mouser.com

alaricljs · « **Reply #158 on:** Wed, 02 May 2012, 21:34:41 »

That's Mouser's price, DigiKey is way more expensive @.9625ea for 500. Problem is, Mouser only has 312 units and none on order. If you go plate mount then Mouser does have 655, so enough for the cheapest price tier.

ekw808 · « **Reply #159 on:** Wed, 02 May 2012, 21:38:01 »

Quote from: The_Ed;588666

Can those squirrel keycaps be bought separately?

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30730-RUSH-GB!!-Aluminum-Keycaps-from-Vortex-END-DATE-5-5

JustCallMeCrash · « **Reply #160 on:** Thu, 03 May 2012, 09:03:36 »

Hey iMav, can we buy just the plates? I PM'd you, but I'm sure your inbox stays swamped. Thanks.

Quote from: limmy;586848

If the kit includes
2 PCBs and 1 aluminum case,
and if one only have to solder switches(purchased separately) and add key caps to make a working keyboard,
does it mean the kit includes stabilizers?

I would think so, but I do not find any stabilizers in the pics of the PCBs.

Go check out the OP... I think he's listed stabilizers now.

JustCallMeCrash · « **Reply #161 on:** Thu, 03 May 2012, 09:04:57 »

Quote from: Wibox;588258

Have a couple more questions ... all of my questions grouped here for covenience:

The plate looks like it's for the pure, any word on that?
Can we just buy plates?
Can we just buy PCBs?
Can we just buy those cherry keycaps?
Can we just buy those aluminium trays?
Are these sets limited in quantity?
Is there a cut off date for ordering?
Is there any estimates on first shipment dates?

Apologies if it's too soon to be asking, just curious! Thanks!

These are all good questions. As you can see in the one above this, I'd like to know about the plates, too. Thanks for putting this together, iMav!

boost · « **Reply #162 on:** Thu, 03 May 2012, 09:13:45 »

Anyone want to split a kit?

I just want 1 PCB board

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skeaono · « **Reply #163 on:** Thu, 03 May 2012, 09:34:07 »

Quote from: boost;588985

Anyone want to split a kit?

I just want 1 PCB board

Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2

Same here

elton5354 · « **Reply #164 on:** Thu, 03 May 2012, 09:36:31 »

I'll take a PCB. How much?

mbc · « **Reply #165 on:** Thu, 03 May 2012, 15:24:30 »

I'm in for a PCB shipped to Germany, if anyone doesn't need two.
Pm me

Tranquilite · « **Reply #166 on:** Sun, 06 May 2012, 21:23:33 »

Looks like a forum rollback or something ate my post, so I'll just post this again.
I am only interested in a PCB and plate. If anybody wants to sell me their extra PCB and a plate, that would be great. I could also do the soldering provided you also supply me switches and stabilizers. If you are interested, then feel free to send me a PM, and hopefully we can work something out!

Though if iMav could get a price for just PCBs, that would be better. Those aluminum cases are just plain out of my price range.

mkawa · « **Reply #167 on:** Sun, 06 May 2012, 21:24:37 »

i am also looking for PCBs, and imav: is there any chance these boards will have an updated firmware that fixes the tilde/esc layer bug?

postlapsaetia · « **Reply #168 on:** Sun, 06 May 2012, 21:44:57 »

Forum rollback took my post. I just want a casing and plate!

harrison · « **Reply #169 on:** Sun, 06 May 2012, 23:35:17 »

Well, for what it's worth... jumping on the bandwagon and all, I'd like to offer my soldering services to anyone that would like them, and as payment I would take the spare PCB. I'll cover shipping as necessary (if you can have everything shipped directly to me, that makes it far easier). I have both US and Canadian shipping addresses. Just send me a PM if you're interested.

keebler64 · « **Reply #170 on:** Sun, 13 May 2012, 10:02:21 »

Wth?! Again?!

nobbere · « **Reply #171 on:** Mon, 14 May 2012, 11:01:28 »

Any ISO version of the kit available? Or even ISO Pokers available at all?

Djuzuh · « **Reply #172 on:** Mon, 14 May 2012, 11:05:38 »

nop.

Poker is already a low market product, and is I believe more used in asia than in europe. So there is almost no chance to ever get an iso poker, unless kbt grows by a lot. They are still at the very beginning.

mkawa · « **Reply #173 on:** Mon, 14 May 2012, 11:06:12 »

still looking for pcbs...

Wibox · « **Reply #174 on:** Mon, 14 May 2012, 16:30:50 »

Any estimates on when batches of these will ship out?

boost · « **Reply #175 on:** Mon, 14 May 2012, 19:19:54 »

Quote from: Wibox;592687

Any estimates on when batches of these will ship out?

I heard not too long after the order is placed...

rknize · « **Reply #176 on:** Mon, 14 May 2012, 19:24:23 »

iMav: your OP update was lost in the rollback.

jcrouse · « **Reply #177 on:** Sat, 19 May 2012, 10:30:53 »

What other parts are needed to build these kits? I am thinking the following ...

Switches
Key Caps
Key Cap Stems (not sure the name)
USB Cable

Time and Money

Joking aside, is that abought right?

Thanks,
John

dorkvader · « **Reply #178 on:** Sun, 20 May 2012, 01:03:02 »

Quote from: jcrouse;595856

What other parts are needed to build these kits? I am thinking the following ...

Switches
Key Caps
Key Cap Stems (not sure the name)
USB Cable

Time and Money

Joking aside, is that abought right?

Thanks,
John

Should just be:

Keyswitches
Keycaps
USB Cable
Mounting screws ?
Diodes.

Time (Money is included in the GB

)
Solder and soldering iron/wave table.

Looks like the PCB supports LED's.

jcrouse · « **Reply #179 on:** Sun, 20 May 2012, 09:21:08 »

Quote from: dorkvader;596252

Should just be:

Keyswitches
Keycaps
USB Cable
Mounting screws ?
Diodes.

Time (Money is included in the GB )
Solder and soldering iron/wave table.

Looks like the PCB supports LED's.

Why diodes? Where would they go?

Thanks,
John

alaricljs · « **Reply #180 on:** Sun, 20 May 2012, 12:22:27 »

yeah, already states diodes are on the PCB w/ the controller.

jcrouse · « **Reply #181 on:** Sun, 20 May 2012, 19:15:03 »

Money Sent.

Thanks,
John

__red__ · « **Reply #182 on:** Sun, 20 May 2012, 21:25:42 »

Quote from: jcrouse;596346

Why diodes? Where would they go?

Diodes are used in keyboard matrices in order to avoid ghosting. Google for Keyboard Matrix Circuit if you want to learn the theory behind it.

dorkvader · « **Reply #183 on:** Sun, 20 May 2012, 23:36:56 »

Quote from: alaricljs;596465

yeah, already states diodes are on the PCB w/ the controller.

I didn't see them on the board, I assume they are on the back?

I noticed the LED holes, and wondered if it supports LED's. If it does, then you'd have to buy those diodes.

___red___ is correct. If you want any more info, (or pictures) I found the below linked page to be useful:
http://www.dribin.org/dave/keyboard/one_html/

mkawa · « **Reply #184 on:** Sun, 20 May 2012, 23:41:57 »

those boards aren't stuffed iirc. the diodes are SMD, and are definitely populated on my poker. there are holes and pads for LEDs, but no traces to the LED holes

mkawa · « **Reply #185 on:** Mon, 21 May 2012, 08:46:39 »

the only documentation needed for this board is that the switches need to be stuffed. everything else is already placed and soldered on these boards, as it says in the OP

jcrouse · « **Reply #186 on:** Mon, 21 May 2012, 08:49:15 »

Quote from: mkawa;597008

the only documentation needed for this board is that the switches need to be stuffed

And n layman's term, this means ..... what, simply soldered to the PCB ?

Thanks,
John

mkawa · « **Reply #187 on:** Mon, 21 May 2012, 08:55:12 »

jcrouse · « **Reply #188 on:** Mon, 21 May 2012, 17:29:53 »

Two questions ...

Anyone planning any sort of group buys for switches?

What is everyone planning on using for keycap sets? I'm just a little curious (and new). I know they're Cherry MX but not sure where to get a set for this layout.

Thank you,
John

mkawa · « **Reply #189 on:** Mon, 21 May 2012, 21:08:01 »

re: switches

there was recently a group buy for plate mount switches, and i'm guessing the forum will be awash with them in a month or so, but the poker will probably feel best with pcb mount switches, which aren't as common around here. you might want to ping the_ed, as he usually has a large stock of pcb-mount switches. note that he gets his from the same place you would probably look for cheap ones -- many old cherry boards used pcb mount switches and can be found for less than the switches would cost new.

re: caps

any filco-compatible cherry MX keycap set will fit the poker. this includes the KBC sets that feng and qtan sell, as well as the PBT sets that imsto is selling right now. this also includes the signature plastics doubleshot sets that are being ordered in the group buy forums. order a basic 87 or 104-key set, and everything will fit fine on the poker. note that the one thing to watch out for is that not all sets can be mixed and matched. KBC keys do not have the same profile keys as signature plastics.

alternatively, i have a used ABS set from a poker for sale in my classifieds thread, lol

also, i'm still looking for pcbs folks

jcrouse · « **Reply #190 on:** Mon, 21 May 2012, 21:15:57 »

Quote from: mkawa;597264

but the poker will probably feel best with pcb mount switches

I'm curious why. Could you explain. I would have thought stiffness, no flex, would be more desirable and that that would be best achieved with a plate mount.

Thanks,
John

mkawa · « **Reply #191 on:** Mon, 21 May 2012, 21:26:05 »

you can still mount a plate on pcb-mount switches. "pcb-mount" just means that they have two extra fixation pins on the bottom of the switch to mechanically tie them to the PCB. hence, the most rigid mounting setup is plate + pcb-mount switches. given most of our experience with production pokers, you're probably going to want the most rigid possible configuration

mithinza · « **Reply #192 on:** Tue, 22 May 2012, 00:16:45 »

Can I see sample photos of metal housing?

Tranquilite · « **Reply #193 on:** Tue, 22 May 2012, 02:29:46 »

Quote from: jcrouse;597127

Anyone planning any sort of group buys for switches?

iMav was also going to be selling switches and had even updated the first post with prices and such, but the last rollback seems to have eaten that change, and iMav never re-updated it...

Also, I'm still looking to get a PCB and (optionally) a plate. I'll even do your soldering for you. :biggrin:

rknize · « **Reply #194 on:** Tue, 22 May 2012, 11:22:36 »

Yes, he never put it back. No offense to iMav, but the prices were a bit high. Mouser had slightly better rates on switches, but their quantities are limited. The best deal was the Phantom GB. I missed that actual PCB GB, but I'm glad I binged on the switch portion. Others did the same, so expect to see them in the classifieds.

mbc · « **Reply #195 on:** Tue, 22 May 2012, 21:48:30 »

Quote from: Tranquilite;597379

iMav was also going to be selling switches and had even updated the first post with prices and such, but the last rollback seems to have eaten that change, and iMav never re-updated it...

Also, I'm still looking to get a PCB and (optionally) a plate. I'll even do your soldering for you. :biggrin:

that's a great idea,
I will offer soldering for whoever lets me keep the second PCB, have plenty switches (black, brown), too

jcrouse · « **Reply #196 on:** Wed, 23 May 2012, 21:47:24 »

I didn't notice in the thread, when will this close and the kits be ordered?

BossBorot · « **Reply #197 on:** Wed, 23 May 2012, 23:12:20 »

I think the post was removed due to a rollback but iMav or someone else directly involved in the group buy said end of the month cut off if I recall correctly.

iMav · « **Reply #198 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 05:25:36 »

Switch prices re-added to the first post.

This group buy WILL end at the end of the month. And I have no guarantee that this will be offered again to us.

jcrouse · « **Reply #199 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 08:23:58 »

Couple of questions ....

Are the switches that have be relisted both plate mount and PCB mount?

How do the Green and Light Grey compare to Red, Black, Brown and Blue?

Why do the prices seem to be quite a bit more than, say, mouser? Am I comparing apples and oranges?

Thanks all,
John

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