[IC] PBT Cabernet | GB Live Now!

[TokyoExpress]

Announcements:

We're live now until Nov 06! Head over to https://thekey.company/collections/infinikey-cabernet/products/infinikey-cabernet-keycaps to get your order in.

Vendors:

US: The Key Company
CA: Deskhero
CN: zFrontier
EU: Prototypist
AUS: Switchkeys


Pricing:

Base Kit: $100 USD
Adaptive Kit: $70 USD
Dark Alphas: $45 USD


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Renders

Viktus Styrka



Returned Wing



Rama Koyu


Rama Koyu (Dark Alphas)



TKC1800



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Kits (renders done by TKC)


Base Kit:


Adaptive Kit (40s/Ortho):


Dark Alphas:


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Deskmats


Flow


Cut


Pool


Cellar



Thanks for checking out the set! Remember to fill out the Google form here: https://forms.gle/sYXif1WTiTP1WqEU8 if you're interested in joining the group buy.

[chriszhu]

🍷🍷🍷

[konstantin]

This seems like a decent early IC; however, you aren't going to get far with hex codes for colors. The sooner you pick out physical colors for your set, from Pantone, RAL or another color matching system of your choice, the better.

Edit: Looks like you added RAL colors in the meantime, good!

[TokyoExpress]

This seems like a decent early IC; however, you aren't going to get far with hex codes for colors. The sooner you pick out physical colors for your set, from Pantone, RAL or another color matching system of your choice, the better.

Edit: Looks like you added RAL colors in the meantime, good!

thanks for the feedback! The RAL colors aren't exact matches for our original colors, so I'll be making some new renders in the meantime.

[JagdPietr]

looking good! this has my attention, and will keep an eye on this

GLWIC!

[ilikerustoo]

Interesting

[ilikerustoo]

The RAL colours seem off here and I believe ePBT works best with pantone colours

[TokyoExpress]

The RAL colours seem off here and I believe ePBT works best with pantone colours

yeah that's what I noticed as well. I'm going to do some more color research and update the set as I go along. thanks for the initial thoughts guys!

[quadrotiles]

I think this looks really cool! I like it a lot

I do just think the light brown accents should have dark brown legends, instead of red. The red and light brown kinda clash or something, imo

[dom]

The RED is just beautiful ... BIG LOVE 

[tul]

avoid reverse dye-sub in the mods if you can please.

[pupper125]

A good start, but those alpha legends are very hard to read!

[eniigma]

Is ePBT willing to reverse dye-sub an entire set? You might want to look into Infinikey if ePBT falls through.

[Pach]

Classy.

EPBT can work with RAL, but I assume they prefer Pantone because they've been working with it a lot more.

[grundlemere]

Pretty! I'd almost want to see a glass green-white mods option, which might save you from having to reverse dyesub.

[hammerbrotha]

avoid reverse dye-sub in the mods if you can please.

Agree with this, ePBT had a really hard time with getting the reverse dye sub on kuro/shiro which caused many delays. I'd also avoid reverse dye sub unless it's only a handful of keys.

[i luv chuletas]

I am seriously digging this. Need to join voices in possibly looking into infinikey

[e_bb]

I would prefer ePBT over Infinikey.

[jasonex64]

sick set, love the colors! i will have to buy a red case just for this set...

[Binson]

Love the low contrast legends

[TokyoExpress]

v1.1

Decided on Infinikey as our primary vendor, renaming the set from ePBT to PBT.
Updated kits, renders, and colors.
Added deskmats.
Added interest form.

[roguesystem087]

is there any chance we can have the normal enter key for the numpad? the wine thing is nice but just wondering if its possible

[TokyoExpress]

is there any chance we can have the normal enter key for the numpad? the wine thing is nice but just wondering if its possible

Kind of a difficult request because that enter key pretty much exists only on the base kit (currently there are no plans for a novelty kit) and I wouldn't want to spike up the cost with extra keys. But it is possible to have one of the wine key and one normal enter rather than 2 different color variants of the novelty enter. If you or anyone else who wants this change would have no issue with that we can implement it in the next update.

Or we can just remove the novelty enters entirely. To anyone who has opinions on the matter, please let us know here and we will respond accordingly.

[KetchyKech]

how about a separate wine novelty themed kit!  (or even talk to rama to collab a wine keycap, would be so dope!)

could be corkscrew (waiters friend), wine bottle, decanter, wine glass, cork, etc

the possibilities are endless! 

[mod_allure]

Also chiming in on the alpha legends being hard to read. I'd prefer something like the accent colors.. but just my preference

[sK0pe]

I love the low contrast alphas and chocolate modifiers, I can see this sitting on any red, wine, brown or neutral board quite well.

[TokyoExpress]

Also chiming in on the alpha legends being hard to read. I'd prefer something like the accent colors.. but just my preference

Yeah, that's something that we spent a lot of time thinking about too. The set was originally designed with that low contrast theme in mind, and we also figured that the legibility wouldn't be too much of a problem for the actual physical product (most of the perceived problem comes from the render lighting environment and composition).

We are still taking the community feedback into consideration however and with enough interest/opinion chiming in it would be entirely possible to have the alpha legends modified or even have an additional set of alphas for lighter/darker legends (whichever one happens to be more popular would remain as part of the base kit).

Obviously at the end of the day sometimes it's impossible to please everyone's exact preferences but we will always try our best to accommodate. Here's hoping that we're able to garner enough interest to run both variants of the alphas.

Thanks for the feedback!

[TokyoExpress]

how about a separate wine novelty themed kit!  (or even talk to rama to collab a wine keycap, would be so dope!)

could be corkscrew (waiters friend), wine bottle, decanter, wine glass, cork, etc

the possibilities are endless! 

The RAMA keycap is next up on our to-do list. As for the novelty kit: we'll look into it. 

Thanks for the suggestions!

[Dafraz117]

Interested


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[kimchijody]

I like this probably a lot more than I probably should. I will say the one thing that slightly bothers me is that the alpha legends are a bit difficult to read given the dark red of the alpha color. Might look better with 4091 C for alpha legends. Otherwise, very nice!

[kimchijody]

I like this probably a lot more than I probably should. I will say the one thing that slightly bothers me is that the alpha legends are a bit difficult to read given the dark red of the alpha color. Might look better with 4091 C for alpha legends. Otherwise, very nice!

ignore me I am an idiot bc this will be dyesub lol

[TokyoExpress]

v1.2

Changed alpha legends to accent color.
Removed novelty enter keys (they'll be back in the novelties).
Added Dark Alphas kit.
Updated form.

[Manticzeus]

Have you thought about doing a kit with red mods as well to make a 2 color set? I think it could look pretty nice!

[quadrotiles]

v1.2

Changed alpha legends to accent color.
Removed novelty enter keys (they'll be back in the novelties).
Added Dark Alphas kit.
Updated form.

Honestly, the low contrast was really beautiful. The accent colour alphas is fine and pretty, but there's something really classy about low contrast colour schemes.

[TokyoExpress]

v1.2

Changed alpha legends to accent color.
Removed novelty enter keys (they'll be back in the novelties).
Added Dark Alphas kit.
Updated form.

Honestly, the low contrast was really beautiful. The accent colour alphas is fine and pretty, but there's something really classy about low contrast colour schemes.

I would agree, but I was getting a lot of feedback about legibility being an issue, which I thought it would be best to prioritize. Still hoping enough of you dark alpha fans are out there so the concept doesn't disappear entirely.

[TokyoExpress]

Have you thought about doing a kit with red mods as well to make a 2 color set? I think it could look pretty nice!

There are a lot of all-red sets out there already, so it's not one of the immediate things on our radar. Could possibly consider it after the novelties and special caps are finished.

[Re9456]

Why only allow us choose one kit in the form? I want all 3 kits

[TokyoExpress]

Why only allow us choose one kit in the form? I want all 3 kits

oh sorry that's a mistake, it should be fixed now. if you're on the same email you can edit your submission to the form. thanks for letting me know!

[dvorcol]

v1.2

Changed alpha legends to accent color.
Removed novelty enter keys (they'll be back in the novelties).
Added Dark Alphas kit.
Updated form.

Honestly, the low contrast was really beautiful. The accent colour alphas is fine and pretty, but there's something really classy about low contrast colour schemes.

I would agree, but I was getting a lot of feedback about legibility being an issue, which I thought it would be best to prioritize. Still hoping enough of you dark alpha fans are out there so the concept doesn't disappear entirely.

It’s surprising the majority of those interested don’t want dark alpha legends.  It looks like a completely different set now.  No doubt some dark alpha fans will bail because of the increased cost to get what they wanted, including anyone requiring a numpad since that’s no longer an option.

If the interest is close to 50/50, consider offering two complete TKL base kits and a separate numpad kit containing both alpha styles.

[honoka]

Your interest form would be better if it had a field where we could give feedback.
For instance, norde kits are always something I ask for when I see a set I like

[konstantin]

If the interest is close to 50/50, consider offering two complete TKL base kits and a separate numpad kit containing both alpha styles.

I agree with this recommendation.

Your interest form would be better if it had a field where we could give feedback.

I agree with this recommendation.

[kimchijody]

I like this probably a lot more than I probably should. I will say the one thing that slightly bothers me is that the alpha legends are a bit difficult to read given the dark red of the alpha color. Might look better with 4091 C for alpha legends. Otherwise, very nice!

ignore me I am an idiot bc this will be dyesub lol

Puddsy has educated me on the reverse dyesub process. Love the new alpha legends. GLWIC!

[TokyoExpress]

If the interest is close to 50/50, consider offering two complete TKL base kits and a separate numpad kit containing both alpha styles.

I agree with this recommendation.

Your interest form would be better if it had a field where we could give feedback.

I agree with this recommendation.

Form has been updated with a space for feedback. Some good insight from dvorcol as well, will look into reworking the kits as per suggestion.

Thanks for the feedback!

[TokyoExpress]

v1.21

Added announcements.
Added novelties.

[TokyoExpress]

Please fill out the form if you prefer the dark alphas and would like to see the kit layouts changed a bit. Thank you!

[SwitchKeys]

Have to agree with the general consensus that the dark alphas kit is closer to the original concept than the revised one.
Coming from someone in the wine industry, I love this concept
I think if you stick with the new base kit alphas, you should consider the legend colour to be something closer to the inside of a wine barrel, those warmer oak colours.

I'm also not sure where the esc/enter mod colour really derives from - Reminds me a bit though of crushing grapes and the pinky foam that results

[stein3]

I love the set, but the abstract deskmats aren't doing it for me.

So I sketched this up using the colors from your existing mat renders! I don't think these would be my final color choices, but I think it still gets the idea across. What do you think?


I think it looks better with the bottle offset, but it needs something (maybe just the set logo?) to balance it.

[sagarsiddhpura]

My feedback:
1. I would kill for a completely red option (color same as base kit alphas, not dark)
2. Base kit alphas look better

[xEdifice]

I prefer the dark alphas.

[TokyoExpress]

Updated form with the novelty kit  .

If you're back here and you filled out the interest form a long time ago, please update your kit preferences now to participate in the poll! We'll be making some more decisions in a couple of days (maybe more, got unexpectedly swamped this week). Not going to individually respond to everyone this time around but know that I did read your feedback and have taken it into consideration. In the meantime, keep letting me know what you guys want/prefer!

Thanks!

[scrps]

forgot to change signature again. glwic

[clicks]

These look beautiful! What keycap profile would they come as? I would like to put them on a Dactyl.

[dvorcol]

These look beautiful! What keycap profile would they come as? I would like to put them on a Dactyl.

Currently scheduled for a mid-October group buy run with Infinikey (TheKey.Company) as the main vendor.

As far as I know, Infinikey only makes Cherry profile.

[dom]

dark alphas.

[Eagle Bearer]

I like the dark alphas better but I will still buy the base kit if it won't change. Really love the rich red colors.

[depletedvespene]

Uuuuh... why is the arrow icon in the 1.25U Shift key upside down?

(more comments in DM)

[konstantin]

Uuuuh... why is the arrow icon in the 1.25U Shift key upside down?

I think that's a R4 1.25u Caps Lock key (for people who swap Control and Caps).

[TokyoExpress]

v1.22

- Updated colors with Pantone Color Bridge entries from our manufacturer.
- Updated form with Deskmat options to gauge interest.

Upcoming:
- Kit Changes and Full ISO Support
- New Variant 1 Deskmat
- Artisan Caps(?)

[DJ Clicks]

Any chance of text modifier?

[Nudd]

The ansi tilde/back quote key has alpha and mod colour option, the uk iso replacement does not.
Nice looking set though

[KetchyKech]

Love the direction this is going -- Submitted interest check form

Just suggestions regarding mod color change (if taking any)

and the novelties ... the decanter looks a bit like a chemistry beaker (ppl do use them as decanters irl though!)
If you wanted a more traditional decanter, could go for something more of a pointy edge at the top, and curvier at the bottom

Also -- if we could get some wine bottles for R1, thatd be great!

and love that barrel with the spout -- just like in a cellar !



lastly a suggestion for a novelty, had to get cheese somewhere in there!:

More

edit: also forgot to mention how excited i am for the RAMA keycap! going with a bottle hopefully!!?

[TokyoExpress]

v1.3

- Kits are mostly finalized. Novelty kit has been deprecated due to low interest and a few select novelties have been added to the base kit.

- Full US and UK ISO is now supported for both light and dark alphas, adaptive kit has been modified to reflect this as well.

- Dark Alphas currently makes up about 30% of the interest in the set, which sadly is not enough to warrant the double TKL base kit setup, but is enough to have Dark Alphas remain viable as a separate kit.

- We've decided not to run a RAMA cap with this set but we are open to other artisan caps. If you are an artisan capmaker, feel free to reach out to us if you would like to collaborate.

- Pricing will come in the next couple updates, currently expecting around ~$90 for the base kit, which is in line with most Infinikey sets. Plus you get some nice novelties as a bonus.

- Working on more renders and deskmats now.

Thanks for your continued interest!

[depletedvespene]

The new numpad makes me go 3, 2, 1... 

(also, remember the difference between the | and ¦ symbols — pick one or the other for the \| keys, but don't mix them in a kit)

GLWGB!

[TokyoExpress]

The new numpad makes me go 3, 2, 1... 

(also, remember the difference between the | and ¦ symbols — pick one or the other for the \| keys, but don't mix them in a kit)

GLWGB!

oops, the split bar is a mistake. should have it edited out in the next update. thanks!

[TokyoExpress]

v1.32

minor update

- split bar continuity fixed
- arrow keys are now accent color

[jasonex64]

Any chance of numpad in dark alphas? Love the set idea btw!

[TokyoExpress]

v1.4

The set is now mostly finalized. Samples are being produced and pricing will be determined soon, as we approach the group buy date of October 23.

Things to do:
- Pricing
- Make sure sample colors are accurate
- More deskmat variations

Please enjoy some more renders of PBT Cabernet in the meantime (more to come as well).

[sagarsiddhpura]

v1.4

The set is now mostly finalized. Samples are being produced and pricing will be determined soon, as we approach the group buy date of October 23.

Things to do:
- Pricing
- Make sure sample colors are accurate
- More deskmat variations

Please enjoy some more renders of PBT Cabernet in the meantime (more to come as well).

More deskmat variations please

[TokyoExpress]

v1.4

The set is now mostly finalized. Samples are being produced and pricing will be determined soon, as we approach the group buy date of October 23.

Things to do:
- Pricing
- Make sure sample colors are accurate
- More deskmat variations

Please enjoy some more renders of PBT Cabernet in the meantime (more to come as well).

More deskmat variations please

we're working on it! 

[PHYLO]

Can't wait for this beauty! Dark alpha and base kit for meeeee!

[Nudd]

If this had a EU vender I would buy it. GLWGB 

[TokyoExpress]

If this had a EU vender I would buy it. GLWGB 

we will have an EU vendor!

[Nudd]

If this had a EU vender I would buy it. GLWGB 

we will have an EU vendor!

Then I'm buying 

[Huinstein]

Please, no infinikey, please. I love the set by the way, but please, do not let Infinikey ruin this set. Have you heard of the real quality of the Græn keycap set? That was not very good. I've heard that some caps of the set was not involved, and the dyesub was terrible. So please, don't infinikey.

[TokyoExpress]

v1.4

- new deskmat!

- next update will be pricing, and then another deskmat, and some more renders.

[TokyoExpress]

v1.4

- added pricing and vendors
- added TKC1800 renders

thanks everyone for supporting this far! With the GB in a little over a month there’s not much to do but wait and make sure that the samples are of satisfaction. I have one more deskmat in the works, but in the meantime please continue to show interest during this last stretch!

[d4vid4f]

Really digging this! Great work!

[cecioclock]

The deskmat designs are so spot-on.
Wish the third one’s wine bottle was wine purple instead of green- suits the theme better, too.
Regardless hopping on the desk mats for sure.
(Love the dark alphas but the regular mods don’t go too well with it ;’(
Very nice work overall!

[TokyoExpress]

v1.4

- added a fourth and final deskmat, Cellar!
- we are having a kit overhaul to help out 40s users, so be on the lookout for that next update!

[TokyoExpress]

v1.4

- TKC has given us new kits, so I've updated the IC form here. GB thread should be up soon.

[PHYLO]

Are there any plans to make a purple hue version of this kit? Would look absolutely lovely.

[deathman28]

This would look amazing on the skog-reboot keyboard with the wine color by percent studio since they both exhibit more of a refined design language, hopefully once they finalize the group buy for the international market that is one of the colors offered. I would definitely pick the base kit up if that happens.

[DJ Clicks]

Are the new kits render a more accurate representation of the intended/actual colours? And how long will manufacturing take/ when is the estimated shipping time? Loving the red but unsure of the renders. Thanks!

[TokyoExpress]

Are there any plans to make a purple hue version of this kit? Would look absolutely lovely.

I probably won't run this set for a while (due to NDA and also other projects) but that's a good idea if I ever do!

[TokyoExpress]

Are the new kits render a more accurate representation of the intended/actual colours? And how long will manufacturing take/ when is the estimated shipping time? Loving the red but unsure of the renders. Thanks!

So TKC did the renders for the new kits, all the previous ones are mine. The physical swatch I sent for the accent color was meant to resemble my renders, but since it is a pastel purple-pink kind of color YMMV depending on lighting and whatnot. We have yet to receive samples but I am trying to make sure they look as close to my renders as possible.



Estimated shipping is June-July 2021, I believe.

[DJ Clicks]

Are the new kits render a more accurate representation of the intended/actual colours? And how long will manufacturing take/ when is the estimated shipping time? Loving the red but unsure of the renders. Thanks!

So TKC did the renders for the new kits, all the previous ones are mine. The physical swatch I sent for the accent color was meant to resemble my renders, but since it is a pastel purple-pink kind of color YMMV depending on lighting and whatnot. We have yet to receive samples but I am trying to make sure they look as close to my renders as possible.

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Estimated shipping is June-July 2021, I believe.

I see, what about the red? The shipping time tho xd

[TokyoExpress]

Are the new kits render a more accurate representation of the intended/actual colours? And how long will manufacturing take/ when is the estimated shipping time? Loving the red but unsure of the renders. Thanks!

So TKC did the renders for the new kits, all the previous ones are mine. The physical swatch I sent for the accent color was meant to resemble my renders, but since it is a pastel purple-pink kind of color YMMV depending on lighting and whatnot. We have yet to receive samples but I am trying to make sure they look as close to my renders as possible.

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Estimated shipping is June-July 2021, I believe.

I see, what about the red? The shipping time tho xd

The red should look similar to my renders because the actual keys will be matte and not as glossy as in the kit render photos. Sorry, I'm not really sure what you mean by shipping time. Do you mean how long it'll take to get to you after they get sent out?

[kajahtaa]

Wow love that Adaptive kit

[TokyoExpress]

Last update from me!

- TKC has informed me that Dark Alphas are more expensive that anticipated due to reverse dye sub and are now $45. Sorry about that!

- We are live! Base Kit, Adaptive, Dark Alphas, and all 4 deskmats are available now until Nov 06!

Thanks for sticking around to support the set if you've been here, and welcome if you're just seeing this!

See you around!

- TokyoExpress

[Hellenic94]

Hi I have noticed that the base set on TKC website has dark arrows but on here the base set has light arrows. Which arrow colour is it?