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geekhack Marketplace => Group Buys and Preorders => Topic started by: beamingrobot on Fri, 29 June 2018, 11:12:05

Title: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 29 June 2018, 11:12:05
I'm not running this buy, please contact ZF etc thanks.

Plate file via thesiscamper: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96381.msg2753341#msg2753341

PCB ported to QMK thanks to elmo: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96381.msg2873968#msg2873968

Compatible PCB = hiney h87


(Previous OP text is hidden, not deleted)

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Hi all,

(https://i.imgur.com/QnGKnam.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8EOwb50.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180517/b96b5108329f0325a44299c5ab75b393.jpg)

This is the GB for the KIRA80 & KIRA S by thesiscamper, group buy will be done via monokei.us

1. KIRA80 (TKL):


  • Top piece
  • ANSI plate (no ISO option)
  • WKL/WK available (once winners have been announced)
  • PCB (mini USB)
  • Bottom piece
  • Brass weight (MATTE finish, K I R A)
  • typing angle is 8*
  • PCB by TGR Keyboards, bootmapper

Prices (USD):
  • $400 for one set (case, PCB, brass weight, aluminium plate) does not include shipping/fees.
  • $35 for additional brass switch plate
  • $25 for additional polycarbonate switch plate
  • $30 for additional aluminium switch plate
  • $60 for additional PCB

2. KIRA S (numpad):


  • Top piece
  • PCB (mini USB)
  • Bottom piece
  • Brass weight
  • typing angle is 8*
  • PCB by TGR Keyboards, bootmapper

Prices (USD):
  • $200 for one set (case, insert, PCB, brass weight, aluminium plate, Shopify fees), does not include shipping.
  • $70 for additional aluminium switch plate + PCB

Info:

  • GB limited to 50 sets each
  • TKL Plate supports varied bottom row (6.25u, 7u spacebars)


Additional pictures
https://imgur.com/a/52W8eL7



Shipping:

  • Shipping from Singapore.
  • Shipping cost will depend on location.
Estimated shipping cost (USD):
  • Singapore: $5
  • Malaysia: $20
  • Australia: $45
  • Korea: $27
  • USA: $62
  • Germany: $51

Payment:
  • Prices listed are in USD. Payment in SGD as the shop can only process in SGD, sorry :(
  • No PayPal invoice. All payment via Shopify payments so buyer protection still available
  • Shipping will be calculated once the orders are ready to go out, so you'll receive additional instructions then

Misc:

  • Deadline for raffle entry is 12am on 03 July 2018 (SGT, GMT+8).
  • Deadline for payment is 48 hours.
  • Countdown timer. (https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20180703T00&p0=236&msg=KIRA80+%26+KIRA+S&font=sanserif)
  • Raffle entries will be RNG-ed, and then you will receive an email regarding payment and other things.
  • For any changes to your order, please send a PM when necessary. Please note that this is a small buy and we will proceed with manufacturing very soon, so changes might disrupt the process.
  • Please include your order number when sending a PM for changes.
  • No refunds or transfer of spots once payment has gone through to the factory. These will be possible once we receive the items to minimize too many refunds/transfers/sales of spots that tend to happen

Production lead time:

This time around it should take about 4-5 months given that we have more units compared to previous GBs. Please be aware there will likely be long periods of time without any substantial updates from the factory other than "it's in production".


Order check:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aJPiKcVXqn3kYnqi3HZB2s5vghpjEPG00ouqo0y4VCQ/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 29 June 2018, 11:22:41
 :-X

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Winners:

KIRA80 / KIRA S:

Coffeeshopcoder
bciamny
schlep
jshane
Leovan_13
sroop
kissingyou
niknok88
Hamel
OracleKev
CornCha0s
kevinlim02
Vincentalpha
stepstone82
spiritjeon
necromanx
foxmancore
random0987
bloznalisd
bminhz
forevermadrigal
jubjubcity
papedahut
Att1cus
NovaComet
Bubblegum
clasicks
eyedrop
//gainsborough
E3E
redbanshee
kokugatsu
Carlobv
jumpmineralwater
Rempired
elDuderino
etherealsound
ridiclewis
oHimari
koojahyung
razor_blade
mathleejj
yonghf
jaymaikan
NovaComet
SBN
Superdoedoe
olivia
Oblotzky
Jkush463

51-65:

OffbeatClacking
create_alt_delete
clik_clak
sparkle
azw898
vonswoopington
henz
apple8500
Jamps
mops
lsu1245
moonmembrane
AstralBandit

KIRA S only:

heycheeeno
Jimmare
Mikiberry
nulltorious
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 29 June 2018, 23:21:00
Approval bump!  Good luck with the group buy!
For any group buy participants, please read through  this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0).
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: cijanzen on Fri, 29 June 2018, 23:27:54
Entry deadline date is wrong but otherwise looks good! Price is very reasonable imo and I’m hoping to get in on this.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vonswoopington on Fri, 29 June 2018, 23:29:11
Also the Google forms is not live yet.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 29 June 2018, 23:32:46
Entry deadline date is wrong but otherwise looks good! Price is very reasonable imo and I’m hoping to get in on this.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Fixed!

Also the Google forms is not live yet.

Just approved it, was working with GH mods to resolve some stuff but it should be good to go  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: hayt on Fri, 29 June 2018, 23:38:25
Lovely design, glwb!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vonswoopington on Fri, 29 June 2018, 23:39:41
Awesome thanks! Is there a link to see what the other color combinations look like?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Fri, 29 June 2018, 23:45:58
Cannot wait! Fingers crossed!  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: spiritjeon on Fri, 29 June 2018, 23:58:13
Confirmed! Cross my fingers. XD
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: AstralBandit on Sat, 30 June 2018, 00:01:53
RNGESUS PLS


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: foxmancore on Sat, 30 June 2018, 00:26:51
submitted the form. Gl everyone! :D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: YisSerL on Sat, 30 June 2018, 01:01:24
beamingrobot, any pics showing the brass KIRA weight?

I loved the design, hopefully I'll be picked.  Crossing my toes, leaving my fingers so I can keep clacking!   :p
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: bciamny on Sat, 30 June 2018, 01:51:14
a few questions as i made it through the form: 1) could only select color options/build parts for the tkl even though i'd potentially like both 2) any chance to sub the aluminum plate for either the pc or brass plate? 3) is it possible to change color choices shortly after the winners announced? a lot more color options presented than expected (and it'd be cool to see it listed in the gb op) 4) will there be an option to select wkl at some point?

thanks :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Sat, 30 June 2018, 02:02:07
a few questions as i made it through the form: 1) could only select color options/build parts for the tkl even though i'd potentially like both 2) any chance to sub the aluminum plate for either the pc or brass plate? 3) is it possible to change color choices shortly after the winners announced? a lot more color options presented than expected (and it'd be cool to see it listed in the gb op) 4) will there be an option to select wkl at some point?

thanks :)

1) You should be able to choose the option for both numpad and TKL at the start, lemme know if it doesn't work.
2) nope
3) yes, i'll confirm your orders again
4) yes, after we determine the winners you'll get to select WKL/WK
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: bciamny on Sat, 30 June 2018, 02:06:05
a few questions as i made it through the form: 1) could only select color options/build parts for the tkl even though i'd potentially like both 2) any chance to sub the aluminum plate for either the pc or brass plate? 3) is it possible to change color choices shortly after the winners announced? a lot more color options presented than expected (and it'd be cool to see it listed in the gb op) 4) will there be an option to select wkl at some point?

thanks :)

1) You should be able to choose the option for both numpad and TKL at the start, lemme know if it doesn't work.
2) nope
3) yes, i'll confirm your orders again
4) yes, after we determine the winners you'll get to select WKL/WK

as to 1) i could only choose options for the tkl even though i selected that i'd like to get both. i'm not sure if i'm doing something wrong though. thanks beamingrobot.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Sat, 30 June 2018, 02:21:08
I've changed the form so it should work now, if it doesn't let me know again, thanks  :thumb:

KIRA TKL bottom/weight (thanks to Oblotzky): https://i.imgur.com/tMnXrrY.jpg

If anyone would like to change their options, you can submit a new one since we'll send a public doc with your choices before we lock in the orders. I'll refer to the latest form submission
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: bciamny on Sat, 30 June 2018, 02:28:48
i feel slow. i can get through the two pages for the tkl options but then it goes to the submit page. first page -> username & email, second page -> choose whether you want the combo -> if yes, third page becomes color option page, fourth page becomes additional parts page and fifth page is the submit page [the end]. if no, you can choose either the tkl or the pad, and depending on which you select you get to the two option pages for each item respectively and then the submit page.

i think it should be that if you select yes there should be a fifth and sixth page for the options on the pad? or maybe one page for all the options.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Sat, 30 June 2018, 02:46:13
I've split both numpad and TKL into separate forms, since Google form is sending options all over the place and I'm not sure why.

KIRA80: https://goo.gl/forms/QgnDmOb5UC3v2KLQ2

KIRA S: https://goo.gl/forms/jAp4X6mqymfMZ4sr1

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vonswoopington on Sat, 30 June 2018, 02:57:06
I've split both numpad and TKL into separate forms, since Google form is sending options all over the place and I'm not sure why.

KIRA80: https://goo.gl/forms/QgnDmOb5UC3v2KLQ2

KIRA S: https://goo.gl/forms/jAp4X6mqymfMZ4sr1

Do we need to resubmit if we used the old form?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Sat, 30 June 2018, 03:03:11
I've split both numpad and TKL into separate forms, since Google form is sending options all over the place and I'm not sure why.

KIRA80: https://goo.gl/forms/QgnDmOb5UC3v2KLQ2

KIRA S: https://goo.gl/forms/jAp4X6mqymfMZ4sr1

Do we need to resubmit if we used the old form?

The data is still there so there's no need, but if you want to it's fine, I'll just look at the latest submission.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: gutsack on Sat, 30 June 2018, 03:12:30
Entered. Good luck, all.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sat, 30 June 2018, 03:57:54
Any pictures of the purple one ?
Is the red same as the Kira 60 red ?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Hamel on Sat, 30 June 2018, 04:08:08
Question regarding the switch direction in the pcb.
Which direction will the LED slot in the switch housing be facing; north or south?

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: random0987 on Sat, 30 June 2018, 07:50:17
Any images of how the top and bottom pieces fit together for each the 80 and S? I’m curious what they would look like with different top and bottom colors; although I think we determined in a prior post that this was not an aesthetically pleasing option for this board. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Sat, 30 June 2018, 08:53:28
First time trying a raffle. I'll keep my fingers crossed until the winners are announced.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 30 June 2018, 09:06:33
got an entry in hope i get one.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Mearaz on Sat, 30 June 2018, 09:14:24
Is the Kira80 in the picture silver or space grey? looks like grey to me . First raffle, hope to get in.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Sat, 30 June 2018, 09:17:31
Is the Kira80 in the picture silver or space grey? looks like grey to me . First raffle, hope to get in.

Yeah it's the grey.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 30 June 2018, 09:47:19
Is the Kira80 in the picture silver or space grey? looks like grey to me . First raffle, hope to get in.

Yeah it's the grey.

The "additional pictures" album linked in OP is titled Space Grey
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 30 June 2018, 10:04:44
this is good ****

GLWGB

entry submitted
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Sat, 30 June 2018, 10:10:53
Good luck everyone! :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 30 June 2018, 10:11:12
I love this case, the side facets are beautiful.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: MightyFineShindig on Sat, 30 June 2018, 19:53:09
Entered!

Good luck to everyone  :D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: E3E on Sat, 30 June 2018, 19:59:35
Any images of how the top and bottom pieces fit together for each the 80 and S? I’m curious what they would look like with different top and bottom colors; although I think we determined in a prior post that this was not an aesthetically pleasing option for this board. Thanks!

If you look closely, you can see the seam between the two halves in the profile shot of the board. You can also see it in the CNC drawing of the S.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: superdoedoe on Sun, 01 July 2018, 01:23:26
If I were to get it I wouldn't want to get both an alu plate and a brass plate? No Chance for just a brass plate?

Also Found this pic on ThesisCampers Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjXco0FDVUZsmRkUvj7QwQ_OD5lkxR-ii2gSBw0/?taken-by=thesiscamper
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: evoluchanel on Sun, 01 July 2018, 01:29:16
Entered! Good luck everyone (:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: schlep on Sun, 01 July 2018, 04:52:39
3rd July is deadline for submission of names. When do we know who got the spot?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Sun, 01 July 2018, 07:45:51
Submitted, took a while to decide colours. GL everyone.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Sun, 01 July 2018, 08:05:03
If I were to get it I wouldn't want to get both an alu plate and a brass plate? No Chance for just a brass plate?

Also Found this pic on ThesisCampers Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjXco0FDVUZsmRkUvj7QwQ_OD5lkxR-ii2gSBw0/?taken-by=thesiscamper

Yea no chance for that, the price of the whole TKL set depends on 50 units of the same thing :)

Question regarding the switch direction in the pcb.
Which direction will the LED slot in the switch housing be facing; north or south?

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South
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Hamel on Sun, 01 July 2018, 08:13:04

Question regarding the switch direction in the pcb.
Which direction will the LED slot in the switch housing be facing; north or south?

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South

Thanks for the answer mate, in for the raffle.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jimmare on Sun, 01 July 2018, 08:25:45
What about people inside europe but not in germany?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 01 July 2018, 09:18:30
3rd July is deadline for submission of names. When do we know who got the spot?

day or 2 after
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 01 July 2018, 09:29:04
Will there be a possibility of having a brass/poly plate in lieu of alu?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 01 July 2018, 09:43:37
Will there be a possibility of having a brass/poly plate in lieu of alu?

no

he said above
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 01 July 2018, 11:24:24
Will there be a possibility of having a brass/poly plate in lieu of alu?

no

he said above

mb, dunno how I missed that. Also, resubmitted because I realized I might have put in the wrong username.
I don't suppose there will be color samples other than the space grey?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: superdoedoe on Sun, 01 July 2018, 18:24:23
Will there be a possibility of having a brass/poly plate in lieu of alu?

no

he said above

mb, dunno how I missed that. Also, resubmitted because I realized I might have put in the wrong username.
I don't suppose there will be color samples other than the space grey?

He said it's the same place as their other keyboards they've done so it should be pretty much identical colour wise to those.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: talifern on Sun, 01 July 2018, 18:46:49
Entered, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Sun, 01 July 2018, 21:11:00
Re-thought my original color choices and submitted a new entry for Kira80.  Hope that's okay!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: //gainsborough on Mon, 02 July 2018, 10:06:54
Less than an hour!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Mon, 02 July 2018, 10:52:30
I probably won't have time to close this tonight unfortunately, so I'm gonna extend it for another 12 hours or when I'm awake in the morning. Will post again once it's closed.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Peppermint216 on Mon, 02 July 2018, 16:46:38
Can we get some more info on the colours please? Samples, examples or pantones?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 02 July 2018, 18:04:59
Can we get some more info on the colours please? Samples, examples or pantones?

You can see some samples in this post:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94290.msg2571473#msg2571473 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94290.msg2571473#msg2571473)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 03 July 2018, 03:01:42
this must mean kira exs is wrapping up! cant wait to see those !!

 Good luck everyone for this! It is beautiful. I would join but my pocket can not live through something like this right now if I were to win a spot,

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 03 July 2018, 04:03:38
The last minute enter :thumb: :thumb: gl everyone!!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 03 July 2018, 08:08:29
听说这站已经卖给了国内的人,那以后就会用国语回复了。

各位同志门, 我就先把表格都关了。应该会在二十四小时后公布成绩。谢谢大家踊跃参与,那就敬请期待成绩揭晓吧 :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Carlobv on Tue, 03 July 2018, 08:15:15
Google translate ftw
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 03 July 2018, 08:17:44
听说这站已经卖给了国内的人,那以后就会用国语回复了。

各位同志门, 我就先把表格都关了。应该会在二十四小时后公布成绩。谢谢大家踊跃参与,那就敬请期待成绩揭晓吧 :)

打的好
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xondat on Tue, 03 July 2018, 08:21:48
听说这站已经卖给了国内的人,那以后就会用国语回复了。

各位同志门, 我就先把表格都关了。应该会在二十四小时后公布成绩。谢谢大家踊跃参与,那就敬请期待成绩揭晓吧 :)

这给了我很多乐趣。
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Tue, 03 July 2018, 08:43:56
听说这站已经卖给了国内的人,那以后就会用国语回复了。

各位同志门, 我就先把表格都关了。应该会在二十四小时后公布成绩。谢谢大家踊跃参与,那就敬请期待成绩揭晓吧 :)

这给了我很多乐趣。

确实!
而我对抽奖感到非常兴奋!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: bciamny on Tue, 03 July 2018, 08:51:22
我可以有键盘吗?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Tue, 03 July 2018, 08:55:01
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jedi on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:03:23
表格已结束。 大家好运
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:54:20
I'm kinda curious as to how many people entered, so as to see what the chances are ;)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:21:41
表格已结束。 大家好运

大家好运!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:33:56
表格已结束。 大家好运

大家好运!

По английски, пожалуйста!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: eyedrop on Tue, 03 July 2018, 11:34:45
大家好運! 希望我被選中。 :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beerafffe1 on Wed, 04 July 2018, 07:49:41
Is the raffle done?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 04 July 2018, 07:50:32
Is the raffle done?
Closed, winners not announced yet.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 04 July 2018, 08:54:19
Winners:

KIRA80 / KIRA S:

Coffeeshopcoder
bciamny
schlep
jshane
Leovan_13
sroop
kissingyou
niknok88
Hamel
OracleKev
CornCha0s
kevinlim02
Vincentalpha
stepstone82
spiritjeon
necromanx
foxmancore
random0987
bloznalisd
bminhz
forevermadrigal
jubjubcity
papedahut
Att1cus
NovaComet
Bubblegum
clasicks
eyedrop
//gainsborough
E3E
redbanshee
kokugatsu
Carlobv
jumpmineralwater
Rempired
elDuderino
etherealsound
ridiclewis
oHimari
koojahyung
razor_blade
mathleejj
yonghf
jaymaikan
NovaComet
SBN
Superdoedoe
olivia
Oblotzky
Jkush463

51-65:

OffbeatClacking
create_alt_delete
clik_clak
sparkle
azw898
vonswoopington
henz
apple8500
Jamps
mops
lsu1245
spiritjeon
moonmembrane
kissingyou
AstralBandit

KIRA S only:

heycheeeno
Jimmare
Mikiberry
nulltorious


I will send out the invoices in about 48 hours +- , you will also get a chance to update your choices and also specify if you prefer WKL or WK.

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Wed, 04 July 2018, 08:55:19
edit: im blind
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beerafffe1 on Wed, 04 July 2018, 09:01:51
RIP In Peace....
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Altain on Wed, 04 July 2018, 09:32:02
Congratulations to all those who won the raffle!

was hoping I could get my hands on the 80, but oh well, maybe next time.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 04 July 2018, 09:39:00
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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 04 July 2018, 10:06:03
Wow! Super excited! Thanks so much beamingrobot! Congratulations to the winners!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: foxmancore on Wed, 04 July 2018, 10:13:17
Wooooo :D Super excited
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: evoluchanel on Wed, 04 July 2018, 10:16:54
Sad I didnt win but my bank account is relieved. Cograts to all the winners!!!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SolidCactus on Wed, 04 July 2018, 10:37:22
Ah well maybe next time. Congrats to all the winners!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Wed, 04 July 2018, 10:45:14
So close, yet so far

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 04 July 2018, 11:05:40
Super stoked for this board, congrats everyone :p
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: eyedrop on Wed, 04 July 2018, 11:22:16
So close, yet so far

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Don't lose faith, you're only 2 spots down from the waiting list.  Some people might drop out and you could be in.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: gutsack on Wed, 04 July 2018, 11:24:26
Congrats, winners. :crying_forever_emoji:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: eyedrop on Wed, 04 July 2018, 11:25:50
Can't believe I got picked.  Super stoked for this design...my wallet, not so much.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: JubJubCity on Wed, 04 July 2018, 12:03:37
Finally some luck!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vonswoopington on Wed, 04 July 2018, 12:54:00
Wow I got picked! So excited.

Edit: on wait list spoke too soon :p
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Allo on Wed, 04 July 2018, 13:28:56
Out of curiosity, how many entries were there? I'm curious how bad my luck is.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: gutsack on Wed, 04 July 2018, 13:38:28
Finally some luck!  ;D

Looking forward to 10,000 pinging for updates in this thread. 🤪
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 04 July 2018, 13:53:40
 I never get picked  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ ....
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: eyedrop on Wed, 04 July 2018, 14:28:48
I never get picked  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ ....

huh?  You're the first one on the winner list.   :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 04 July 2018, 14:51:22
 :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: moonmembrane on Wed, 04 July 2018, 14:59:27
Aw man, almost made it!

Congrats to the winners!



Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 04 July 2018, 16:09:59
Yessss, so hyped for this!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 04 July 2018, 19:17:53
I never get picked  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ ....

huh?  You're the first one on the winner list.   :confused:

Damn !! I never even saw the list... I saw people saying they got picked and went straight to my inbox to see if I got an email... Spent (what felt like an hour ) hitting f5..

Yay !!! I actually got picked for something !!!!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 04 July 2018, 20:35:41
ay i got in
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Hamel on Wed, 04 July 2018, 21:34:51
Got in! Super excited for this.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: idlemao on Thu, 05 July 2018, 00:01:19
:eek:
Did you get picked?  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 05 July 2018, 01:05:07
hyped made it just barely.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: schlep on Thu, 05 July 2018, 06:28:13
Oh yes! Thank you! This will be my first heavy keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 05 July 2018, 08:10:23
Invoices are on their way.

Order check:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aJPiKcVXqn3kYnqi3HZB2s5vghpjEPG00ouqo0y4VCQ/edit?usp=sharing

Please reply to the email you'll receive if you would like Winkey or Winkeyless, thanks.

Also as an addendum, we're sending out invoices in batches. If you've not received yours don't panic, we will send out the rest by the weekend and can probably extend the payment deadline if needed.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jimmare on Thu, 05 July 2018, 08:37:25
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY im on of the 4 people who can purchase the numpad <3

If i knew that the price was in SGD and not in USD i would have surely bought the keyboard as well.

FeelsBadMan
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Carlobv on Thu, 05 July 2018, 08:51:07
Are we able to make changes to the plate via the email as well?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 05 July 2018, 09:19:42
Are we able to make changes to the plate via the email as well?

Yes that's possible as well.

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY im on of the 4 people who can purchase the numpad <3

If i knew that the price was in SGD and not in USD i would have surely bought the keyboard as well.

FeelsBadMan

It's in USD, it's just that we can only operate with SGD due to Shopify's rules so the final invoice will be in SGD, which has been updated :P

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: clasicks on Thu, 05 July 2018, 09:28:20
Are we able to make changes to the plate via the email as well?

Yes that's possible as well.

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY im on of the 4 people who can purchase the numpad <3

If i knew that the price was in SGD and not in USD i would have surely bought the keyboard as well.

FeelsBadMan

It's in USD, it's just that we can only operate with SGD due to Shopify's rules so the final invoice will be in SGD, which has been updated :P


I dont follow this at all - will the invoice not be through paypal?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 05 July 2018, 09:28:59
Are we able to make changes to the plate via the email as well?

Yes that's possible as well.

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY im on of the 4 people who can purchase the numpad <3

If i knew that the price was in SGD and not in USD i would have surely bought the keyboard as well.

FeelsBadMan

It's in USD, it's just that we can only operate with SGD due to Shopify's rules so the final invoice will be in SGD, which has been updated :P


I dont follow this at all - will the invoice not be through paypal?

No, he said our payments will be through shopify
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 05 July 2018, 10:52:43
out of curiosity, will the boards be numbered?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Thu, 05 July 2018, 10:58:15
out of curiosity, will the boards be numbered?

This would be awesome if they were.  Just sayin'.   ;)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Thu, 05 July 2018, 11:49:35
Invoices are on their way.

Order check:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aJPiKcVXqn3kYnqi3HZB2s5vghpjEPG00ouqo0y4VCQ/edit?usp=sharing

Please reply to the email you'll receive if you would like Winkey or Winkeyless, thanks.

Also as an addendum, we're sending out invoices in batches. If you've not received yours don't panic, we will send out the rest by the weekend and can probably extend the payment deadline if needed.

Awesome! Really looking forward to the board! :)

Are there any pictures or renders of a WKL Kira80?

out of curiosity, will the boards be numbered?

This would be awesome if they were.  Just sayin'.   ;)

Second this!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jimmare on Thu, 05 July 2018, 12:29:15
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY im on of the 4 people who can purchase the numpad <3

If i knew that the price was in SGD and not in USD i would have surely bought the keyboard as well.

FeelsBadMan

It's in USD, it's just that we can only operate with SGD due to Shopify's rules so the final invoice will be in SGD, which has been updated :P
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Actually you send me a paypal through 200SGD then changed it. I feel like i tackled myself. If i hadnt mentioned that, i might just saved myself like 50$.

Now it really FeelsBadMan.

I've sent an email about shipping the second i got my ''winning'' email but no answer even tho a new invoice was sent. :'(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 05 July 2018, 12:34:06
So happy I made the list this time! Wasn't lucky enough for the Kira60 :)

Thanks for running the GB and congrats to all the other raffle winners!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Anniesherin on Thu, 05 July 2018, 22:41:11
[redacted]
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 05 July 2018, 23:29:47
Can you post some details about the PCB, like programmability or other features   ? Can I use another PCB in this case ?(like if there is a list of compatible PCBs somewhere ?)   I want to know If I should get another, in case there is any issues in the future.

Also is the PCB switch ready  (resistors and smd components if any soldered ) ?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: superdoedoe on Fri, 06 July 2018, 00:45:58
Can you post some details about the PCB, like programmability or other features   ? Can I use another PCB in this case ?(like if there is a list of compatible PCBs somewhere ?)   I want to know If I should get another, in case there is any issues in the future.

Also is the PCB switch ready  (resistors and smd components if any soldered ) ?

1.PCB is (should be) full programable using BMC (Bootmapper Client).

2. Don't think you can use other pcbs with the case sorry.

3. PCB just needs switches soldered in.

Most of this info can be found in his original post.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Fri, 06 July 2018, 01:20:09
2. Don't think you can use other pcbs with the case sorry.

you should be able to use most a.87 compatible PCBs with this case, that leaves you some good replacement options for this case.

Rumor is that the PCB is the same PCB that was created by Yuktsi for the TGR Jane, if this rumor is correct (topside, right USB) then it is indeed a.87 form factor.

But we are still in the dark about what exactly is going on with the PCB. beamingrobot should be able to provide a smidge more detail about the PCB soon i would assume....
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 06 July 2018, 01:44:45
2. Don't think you can use other pcbs with the case sorry.

you should be able to use most a.87 compatible PCBs with this case, that leaves you some good replacement options for this case.

Rumor is that the PCB is the same PCB that was created by Yuktsi for the TGR Jane, if this rumor is correct (topside, right USB) then it is indeed a.87 form factor.

But we are still in the dark about what exactly is going on with the PCB. beamingrobot should be able to provide a smidge more detail about the PCB soon i would assume....

He said in the IC that the pcb would be a custom size and would not have easily viable replacements available outside the gb
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 06 July 2018, 01:58:59
PCB is being designed by yuktsi, although the board itself was designed based on Leeku's TKL PCB design file, so a TX87-L3(?) fits. I did ask yuktsi to flip the spacebar stabs orientation for the group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Fri, 06 July 2018, 02:26:44
I did ask yuktsi to flip the spacebar stabs orientation for the group buy.

Why the flip? IMO, it's more convenient to service SPC stabs (pop the wire out to straighten it, lube it, etc.) the way it is.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Fri, 06 July 2018, 02:28:09
PCB is being designed by yuktsi, although the board itself was designed based on Leeku's TKL PCB design file, so a TX87-L3(?) fits. I did ask yuktsi to flip the spacebar stabs orientation for the group buy.
You mean this ?
https://www.txkeyboards.com/en/products/pcb-various-tkl-us-detail

I'm trying to see if I will need to order a second pcb or not. If this fits, then it looks like this will be cheaper too...

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Fri, 06 July 2018, 02:42:39
PCB is being designed by yuktsi, although the board itself was designed based on Leeku's TKL PCB design file, so a TX87-L3(?) fits. I did ask yuktsi to flip the spacebar stabs orientation for the group buy.
You mean this ?
https://www.txkeyboards.com/en/products/pcb-various-tkl-us-detail

I'm trying to see if I will need to order a second pcb or not. If this fits, then it looks like this will be cheaper too...

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That is TX87 L3.  If SPC stabs are flipped it may not fit with the plate though.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 06 July 2018, 02:43:08
I did ask yuktsi to flip the spacebar stabs orientation for the group buy.

Why the flip? IMO, it's more convenient to service SPC stabs (pop the wire out to straighten it, lube it, etc.) the way it is.
So I can use the PCB with my other TKL.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Fri, 06 July 2018, 03:05:12
I did ask yuktsi to flip the spacebar stabs orientation for the group buy.

Why the flip? IMO, it's more convenient to service SPC stabs (pop the wire out to straighten it, lube it, etc.) the way it is.
So I can use the PCB with my other TKL.

I personally don't care that much, but I think you are better off sourcing PCB separately for your other TKL.
Flipping the SPC stab orientation makes this keyboard worse off in terms of PCB compatibility and stab serviceability.
There really is no reason to flip the orientation unless you have a board with super compact bezel.
I have a couple of Duck boards with bent SPC wires that drives me crazy but I just live with them :( because I don't want to de-solder bunch of switches.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 06 July 2018, 03:14:40
I did ask yuktsi to flip the spacebar stabs orientation for the group buy.

Why the flip? IMO, it's more convenient to service SPC stabs (pop the wire out to straighten it, lube it, etc.) the way it is.
So I can use the PCB with my other TKL.

I personally don't care that much, but I think you are better off sourcing PCB separately for your other TKL.
Flipping the SPC stab orientation makes this keyboard worse off in terms of PCB compatibility and stab serviceability.
There really is no reason to flip the orientation unless you have a board with super compact bezel.
I have a couple of Duck boards with bent SPC wires that drives me crazy but I just live with them :( because I don't want to de-solder bunch of switches.

Just my 2 cents.
One can order from TX if they wanted that orientation, I don't like the extra space it takes up. I understand what you're saying, but this is what I decided.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Fri, 06 July 2018, 03:17:28
One can order from TX if they wanted that orientation

Does that mean a TX87-L3 from TX will be compatible with the case ?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 06 July 2018, 03:25:54
One can order from TX if they wanted that orientation

Does that mean a TX87-L3 from TX will be compatible with the case ?
Yes.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Fri, 06 July 2018, 10:57:06
One can order from TX if they wanted that orientation

Does that mean a TX87-L3 from TX will be compatible with the case ?
Yes.

So then if the TX87 (TKL87 L3) fits, then a large amount of other PCB's should fit in it. for those interested see the master TKL compatibility list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GpM--fKeDw_tIDZj4m2jmbMavSyXeOu3QHzfTJwz-IM the kira 80 is listed already on it.

As for north/south stab wire orientation, OracleKev presents some valid points. Besides ease of serviceability, one of the main factors about south stab wires is that its way less noisy/rattly. But if thesiscamper is saying that the plate will support both north and south spc stab wires (by confirming that tx87 fits) then we still have options to get that south stab wire with some other pcb. Understandable decision if hes planning compatibility with another smaller bezzel case tho (any details on that project, thesiscamper?  ;D )

coffeeshopcoder, there are a few new a.87 PCB's that will be available by the time this board hits our doorsteps, it shouldnt be hard at all to get a new pcb for it then.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Hamel on Fri, 06 July 2018, 20:09:08
Is email & invoicing still in progress? Been checking my mailbox sporadically and none so far.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 06 July 2018, 20:12:26
Is email & invoicing still in progress? Been checking my mailbox sporadically and none so far.

Beamingrobot said he’s invoicing through the weekend
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: JubJubCity on Fri, 06 July 2018, 20:13:10
Is email & invoicing still in progress? Been checking my mailbox sporadically and none so far.
I have also not received anything so i'm hoping sometime soon so I can spend this money
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 06 July 2018, 20:23:44
One can order from TX if they wanted that orientation

Does that mean a TX87-L3 from TX will be compatible with the case ?
Yes.

So then if the TX87 (TKL87 L3) fits, then a large amount of other PCB's should fit in it. for those interested see the master TKL compatibility list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GpM--fKeDw_tIDZj4m2jmbMavSyXeOu3QHzfTJwz-IM the kira 80 is listed already on it.

As for north/south stab wire orientation, OracleKev presents some valid points. Besides ease of serviceability, one of the main factors about south stab wires is that its way less noisy/rattly. But if thesiscamper is saying that the plate will support both north and south spc stab wires (by confirming that tx87 fits) then we still have options to get that south stab wire with some other pcb. Understandable decision if hes planning compatibility with another smaller bezzel case tho (any details on that project, thesiscamper?  ;D )

coffeeshopcoder, there are a few new a.87 PCB's that will be available by the time this board hits our doorsteps, it shouldnt be hard at all to get a new pcb for it then.

Yeah there's already an existing PCB if you want south stab wires, that's regularly stocked. I want the flexibility to make slimmer cases. By the way I'm usually replying on my phone so my responses are curt and to the point but like I said, I understand the convenience of being able to pull the wires to fix something that needs fixing, but we already have a readily available PCB for that. It ships by Korean EMS too (for international) so it's cheap and really fast, comparable to couriers. I'm not a huge fan of JigOn though, got a few 1800 PCBs messed up after some time for no apparent reason when every other PCB worked fine.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Fri, 06 July 2018, 20:50:43
One can order from TX if they wanted that orientation

Does that mean a TX87-L3 from TX will be compatible with the case ?
Yes.

So then if the TX87 (TKL87 L3) fits, then a large amount of other PCB's should fit in it. for those interested see the master TKL compatibility list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GpM--fKeDw_tIDZj4m2jmbMavSyXeOu3QHzfTJwz-IM the kira 80 is listed already on it.

As for north/south stab wire orientation, OracleKev presents some valid points. Besides ease of serviceability, one of the main factors about south stab wires is that its way less noisy/rattly. But if thesiscamper is saying that the plate will support both north and south spc stab wires (by confirming that tx87 fits) then we still have options to get that south stab wire with some other pcb. Understandable decision if hes planning compatibility with another smaller bezzel case tho (any details on that project, thesiscamper?  ;D )

coffeeshopcoder, there are a few new a.87 PCB's that will be available by the time this board hits our doorsteps, it shouldnt be hard at all to get a new pcb for it then.

Yeah there's already an existing PCB if you want south stab wires, that's regularly stocked. I want the flexibility to make slimmer cases. By the way I'm usually replying on my phone so my responses are curt and to the point but like I said, I understand the convenience of being able to pull the wires to fix something that needs fixing, but we already have a readily available PCB for that. It ships by Korean EMS too (for international) so it's cheap and really fast, comparable to couriers. I'm not a huge fan of JigOn though, got a few 1800 PCBs messed up after some time for no apparent reason when every other PCB worked fine.

@redbanshee Great summary!
@thesiscamper Makes sense.  And appreciate explaining the phone response thingy.
All good!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: schlep on Sat, 07 July 2018, 08:58:39
How do I know I have been invoiced? Through email is it?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: foxmancore on Sat, 07 July 2018, 13:09:28
Also haven’t received an invoice yet
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: superdoedoe on Sat, 07 July 2018, 16:42:14
No rush

Don't think they've started yet
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: bciamny on Sat, 07 July 2018, 20:23:12
No rush

Don't think they've started yet

they have started so be sure to check your spam folder, etc.

i believe beaming said at some point that invoices would be due by the 10th to ensure faster production.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: schlep on Sat, 07 July 2018, 21:21:56
what is the name of the sender who emailed the invoice? I've checked my inbox and spam folders but I haven't received anything yet.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: JubJubCity on Sat, 07 July 2018, 21:22:15
No rush

Don't think they've started yet

they have started so be sure to check your spam folder, etc.

i believe beaming said at some point that invoices would be due by the 10th to ensure faster production.
Damn really, checking now....
Nothing in spam, does any one have the email that beaming sends the invoice from?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Sat, 07 July 2018, 21:50:21
Also no invoice for me, checked all email folders including spam.  Hopefully soon, my PayPal is ready!

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sat, 07 July 2018, 22:29:07
@beamingrobot - will you update the thread when invoices are out ?
No invoice for me as well... I was the first on the list..

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 08 July 2018, 00:10:47
yeah no invoice here either. but i know he said there going out in batches and im last on the list. eagerly waiting.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Sun, 08 July 2018, 04:04:36
Hey friends, we're working with Shopify to finish up some things so that it'll go much more smoothly on our end, don't worry about the invoices yet, i'll post again once they're going out, and free to to send me a message if you would like to change something in your order or to add, I'll extend the payment deadline as well so hang tight :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: quazikun on Sun, 08 July 2018, 14:09:06
any plans for a round 2 in the future?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Mon, 09 July 2018, 22:03:36
Anyone got an invoice just yet?

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: JubJubCity on Mon, 09 July 2018, 22:26:03
Anyone got an invoice just yet?

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Beamings working on it, will post once the invoices start going out.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Tue, 10 July 2018, 02:14:10
Anyone got an invoice just yet?

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Beamings working on it, will post once the invoices start going out.

I received and paid mine thursday last week. Should I be worried?   :-X
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 10 July 2018, 02:27:10
Anyone got an invoice just yet?

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Beamings working on it, will post once the invoices start going out.

I received and paid mine thursday last week. Should I be worried?   :-X

Worried about?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Tue, 10 July 2018, 03:57:55
Anyone got an invoice just yet?

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Beamings working on it, will post once the invoices start going out.

I received and paid mine thursday last week. Should I be worried?   :-X

Worried about?

I guess worried is bit of a stretch. Just found it curious that no one else seems to have gotten theirs. The messaging here is that they are going to go out, but I already got it.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 10 July 2018, 04:08:39
Anyone got an invoice just yet?

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Beamings working on it, will post once the invoices start going out.

I received and paid mine thursday last week. Should I be worried?   :-X

Worried about?

I guess worried is bit of a stretch. Just found it curious that no one else seems to have gotten theirs. The messaging here is that they are going to go out, but I already got it.

I just think beaming is busy, I’m sure invoices will be wrapped up soon
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 11 July 2018, 01:25:53
Anyone got an invoice just yet?

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Beamings working on it, will post once the invoices start going out.

I received and paid mine thursday last week. Should I be worried?   :-X

Worried about?

I guess worried is bit of a stretch. Just found it curious that no one else seems to have gotten theirs. The messaging here is that they are going to go out, but I already got it.

I just think beaming is busy, I’m sure invoices will be wrapped up soon

My PayPal is ready, sempai
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 11 July 2018, 03:13:45
Alright strap in boys and girls, this is gonna be a long post.

Dude, where's my invoice?

Firstly, for many here this might be your first or second group buy and it can seem odd that the invoices have stopped going out. Have they cancelled? Am I still on the list of participants?

In terms of group buy invoicing, if you've looked around for a payment processor that supports this mode of buying/selling you'll quickly find that most big name processors class this mode of transaction as "high-risk" , given the time required for the completion of the buy and how long it takes for the buyer to receive the product. Unfortunately, this includes every buyer's favourite website: PayPal. Given my phone conversations with PayPal, preoders are a grey area and they're not very open to hosting such GBs on their platform. If you'd look at the GBs that happen on GH it's quite common to see runners tellling the participants that their account has been frozen, and some buys have completely collapsed simply because PayPal does not officially support the GB model. In order to mitigate such an issue we've moved to Shopify where preorders are allowed, and we've used it for a couple of buys now.

However, last week while we were sending out invoices we received a notice that our account was put on hold. This has never happened after so many buys/keyset proxies, and so we complied with Shopify's request for more info. We've not heard back from them since then, and we've been trying to get their support to escalate our ticket. Unfortunately Shopify does not have a local phone number that we can call, and text support is rather minimal. We've had our ticket priority raised but that's all we have heard for now. We've decided to hold off invoicing any further in order to prevent money from being stuck, and as of today I still have no reply from them despite multiple emails.

What's next:

We're gonna give some more time before we make a decision, but here are a few likely scenarios:

1. We cancel the buy and refund those who've paid.

The GB dies, your dream of having the best TKL of 2018 dies with it. We all feel sad and start ****posting in this thread blaming capitalism and stuff like that, you get the idea. This is our last resort only if we cannot find a way to get the boards to you.

2. We move to another processor.

We've been trying to work it out with other payment processors behind the scenes, and quite frankly before this incident Shopify was our best platform since they had consistent payout and charged acceptable fees. We've all heard so many horror stories about PayPal, and despite having all my savings frozen during a previous buy I've initiated some communication with their local CS to figure out how we can possibly use PayPal for this buy. I still have my reservations over this move but I'm hoping that this is an option. We're also considering using Stripe, but there are reports of frozen Stripe accounts as well, way more compared to Shopify so I'm quite split on that.

3. FCFS.

Another option that is on the table would be having me buy some units ahead of time and sell it as FCFS once they're all done. This option limits the number of boards we can purchase, since I'm not made of OTDs but I'm aiming to get at least 25 units each if we do end up going this route.

So that's a lengthy explanation for why you've not received any invoices so far, we're still trying to work out the whole thing but I'd like to reiterate that this is the first time we've had this happen with Shopify so it came kinda randomly as well (they've not said anything about why we were put on hold so go figure). We'll let you guys know as soon as we receive more info. As of now, please don't request refunds even though only 5 of you've been invoiced, appreciate everyone's patience!

TLDR: Life is short, don't be a vendor.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: spiritjeon on Wed, 11 July 2018, 03:32:43
I guess I'm one of those five. And I paid my invoice. For heaven's sake, I hope it works out alright.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: mudcakehoney on Wed, 11 July 2018, 03:44:22
Man I feel for you, I know you’ll make the right decision for for all parties involved. The one thing most keeb enthusiasts know is that this stuff takes time and patience is important.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 11 July 2018, 03:49:52
Hmm, not quite what I was expecting to hear :-[ hopefully the Shopify situation can resolve. We need this board!!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Wed, 11 July 2018, 05:04:42
Fingers crossed, that you can figure something out with Shopify!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Wed, 11 July 2018, 07:29:42
I appreciate all the work that you do, BR!


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: stepstone82 on Wed, 11 July 2018, 07:43:21
I am also one of those 5 invoiced. and already paid.
I hope you can solve out with shopify
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: schlep on Wed, 11 July 2018, 07:49:40
Are you giving yourself an ultimatum on when you going to decide to cancel the GB altogether?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: clik_clak on Wed, 11 July 2018, 07:53:46
If you have the money to do FCFS, you should always do that option. You said in your post that it limits the number you can do to 25, but that's no different than the other GB's you've run. It takes the high risk away from everyone but yourself. But if you're running a business, you should be willing and able to take risks as it is.

Doing FCFS is a win for all of your customers. If everything goes well, you do a R2 and sell another 25 then.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: jumpmineralwater on Wed, 11 July 2018, 07:55:25
Thanks for the update. Appreciate your effort in this :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Carlobv on Wed, 11 July 2018, 08:26:52
If you have the money to do FCFS, you should always do that option. You said in your post that it limits the number you can do to 25, but that's no different than the other GB's you've run. It takes the high risk away from everyone but yourself. But if you're running a business, you should be willing and able to take risks as it is.

Doing FCFS is a win for all of your customers. If everything goes well, you do a R2 and sell another 25 then.

The only issue with this (outside of capital required) would be the customization options.

He would either have to limit customization or potentially keep unsold inventory if stuff like extra pcbs go unsold.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 11 July 2018, 08:30:11

The only issue with this (outside of capital required) would be the customization options.

He would either have to limit customization or potentially keep unsold inventory if stuff like extra pcbs go unsold.

I will purchase only black/silver kits or something to that effect if that happens, in terms of inventory I might have extra PCBs and plates, but probably not extra housings.

I am also one of those 5 invoiced. and already paid.
I hope you can solve out with shopify

If we ever do fail to get Shopify/PayPal settled in time I'll definitely try to accommodate the first 5 of you within reason.

If you have the money to do FCFS, you should always do that option. You said in your post that it limits the number you can do to 25, but that's no different than the other GB's you've run. It takes the high risk away from everyone but yourself. But if you're running a business, you should be willing and able to take risks as it is.

Doing FCFS is a win for all of your customers. If everything goes well, you do a R2 and sell another 25 then.

Contrary to popular belief I'm not running it as a business as I have other IRL obligations, if you check the site we are only doing proxies/GBs and we have lost some $ on some of the buys so far. With regards to buying kits ahead of time, I do have some reservations. To put this into perspective, I dumped the entirety of my savings into the Canoe GB when my business PayPal account was frozen, which led to me selling off a couple of things and drawing from my wife's account to pay for my school fees. I have no interest in running a R2, and this is frankly my last keyboard GB no matter how successful it'll turn out to be. I hope this clarifies my hesitance to dump a huge sum of my $ into production without having sold a single kit beforehand :)

For the participants, if we do go ahead with me buying some kits ahead of time I will limit purchases to those on the winner's list, I hope this helps.

Are you giving yourself an ultimatum on when you going to decide to cancel the GB altogether?
We're waiting till the weekend. I've been discussing with thesis how we should best approach it, and we both agree that waiting a bit more will be more beneficial for everyone.

Thanks for your understanding everyone, and I'm really sorry that this happened in the middle of the buy. Well, at least most of you have not paid so it's not as bad...?  :-X

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Hamel on Wed, 11 July 2018, 08:32:45
I really hope Shopify issue gets settled, I was really looking forward for this GB :(

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 11 July 2018, 09:16:13
Oh man, thanks for the update! Hopefully this gets sorted out.
This is definitely the most anticipated board for me this year and that
coupled with the fact that it's your last gb is making me pray it goes
through well...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 11 July 2018, 10:07:56
Oh man, first GB keyboard, really hope Shopify gets back to you and lets us proceed.  Please let us know if we can help at all.  Sometimes reaching out on social media can also help speed things up.  :)

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: JubJubCity on Wed, 11 July 2018, 11:26:57
Thanks beaming for the transparency regarding the invoicing and the troubles of running a GB. I appreciate all the effort you have put towards this GB. I hope things work out because this board looks amazing and will probably be amazing if its ever in my hands. 
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 11 July 2018, 16:51:15
Have you looked into using Square for invoicing? They have a fee similar to paypal, but the only thing I didn't find was anything that mentioned buyer protection, but I think it's still worth looking into :thumb: hope that helps!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 11 July 2018, 22:15:22
wow that sucks. was really hoping to get this one. -.- hope it can pull through. cash ready if you do fcfs.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 11 July 2018, 22:22:25
Hope you can find a way to accept payment if the Shopify thing does not come through... payment ready !!!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Wed, 11 July 2018, 23:13:02
Hope you can find a way to accept payment if the Shopify thing does not come through... payment ready !!!

+1

Kudos to awesome transparent communication.  That on top of the past GBs that were exemplary -> much trustworthiness!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 11 July 2018, 23:57:23
Speaking for myself atleast, if this goes down the path of beaming having to buy a few units and sell FCFS to the winners, I have no problem pre-paying directly to beaming's personal paypal to get a unit - I dont really care for the buyer protection from paypal/shopify. Although I'm new to the community, looking at beaming's past work - I have no reluctance trusting him.   
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 12 July 2018, 00:10:56
Speaking for myself atleast, if this goes down the path of beaming having to buy a few units and sell FCFS to the winners, I have no problem pre-paying directly to beaming's personal paypal to get a unit - I dont really care for the buyer protection from paypal/shopify. Although I'm new to the community, looking at beaming's past work - I have no reluctance trusting him.   

likewise
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: foxmancore on Thu, 12 July 2018, 00:47:30
Speaking for myself atleast, if this goes down the path of beaming having to buy a few units and sell FCFS to the winners, I have no problem pre-paying directly to beaming's personal paypal to get a unit - I dont really care for the buyer protection from paypal/shopify. Although I'm new to the community, looking at beaming's past work - I have no reluctance trusting him.   

likewise

+1
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 12 July 2018, 09:04:15
Speaking for myself atleast, if this goes down the path of beaming having to buy a few units and sell FCFS to the winners, I have no problem pre-paying directly to beaming's personal paypal to get a unit - I dont really care for the buyer protection from paypal/shopify. Although I'm new to the community, looking at beaming's past work - I have no reluctance trusting him.   

likewise

+1

+2 😂
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Thu, 12 July 2018, 10:10:54
Speaking for myself atleast, if this goes down the path of beaming having to buy a few units and sell FCFS to the winners, I have no problem pre-paying directly to beaming's personal paypal to get a unit - I dont really care for the buyer protection from paypal/shopify. Although I'm new to the community, looking at beaming's past work - I have no reluctance trusting him.   

likewise

+1

+2 😂

+ all the numbers :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 12 July 2018, 10:23:16
Uh, let's not be hasty about disregarding buyer protection. We will definitely try out best to find a solution that benefits the buyers. While the hype might be great now and we're all ok with deferring buyer protection, 4 months down the road it'll be highly possible some of us might not feel the same way again.

On another note, PayPal has been notified about the possible running of this GB using my business account. They will reply in 48 hours if it's acceptable and we will see how it goes. Thanks again for all your patience.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Thu, 12 July 2018, 10:24:37
Uh, let's not be hasty about disregarding buyer protection. We will definitely try out best to find a solution that benefits the buyers. While the hype might be great now and we're all ok with deferring buyer protection, 4 months down the road it'll be highly possible some of us might not feel the same way again.

On another note, PayPal has been notified about the possible running of this GB using my business account. They will reply in 48 hours if it's acceptable and we will see how it goes. Thanks again for all your patience.

Thanks for the update, beaming!  Good luck with everything!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: eyedrop on Thu, 12 July 2018, 10:50:30
Uh, let's not be hasty about disregarding buyer protection. We will definitely try out best to find a solution that benefits the buyers. While the hype might be great now and we're all ok with deferring buyer protection, 4 months down the road it'll be highly possible some of us might not feel the same way again.

On another note, PayPal has been notified about the possible running of this GB using my business account. They will reply in 48 hours if it's acceptable and we will see how it goes. Thanks again for all your patience.

I appreciate you trying your best to find a solution for us.  I mean, you could have just said I don't want the headache and cancel the GB all together.

"Life is short, only join GB from a reputable and responsible vendor"   :p
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 12 July 2018, 12:38:18
Uh, let's not be hasty about disregarding buyer protection. We will definitely try out best to find a solution that benefits the buyers. While the hype might be great now and we're all ok with deferring buyer protection, 4 months down the road it'll be highly possible some of us might not feel the same way again.

On another note, PayPal has been notified about the possible running of this GB using my business account. They will reply in 48 hours if it's acceptable and we will see how it goes. Thanks again for all your patience.

Thanks for the update! Crossing my fingers...paypal please approve this!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: //gainsborough on Thu, 12 July 2018, 16:17:24
Thanks for the update! Crossing my fingers...paypal please approve this!

+1
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 12 July 2018, 16:27:44
Uh, let's not be hasty about disregarding buyer protection. We will definitely try out best to find a solution that benefits the buyers. While the hype might be great now and we're all ok with deferring buyer protection, 4 months down the road it'll be highly possible some of us might not feel the same way again.

On another note, PayPal has been notified about the possible running of this GB using my business account. They will reply in 48 hours if it's acceptable and we will see how it goes. Thanks again for all your patience.

Let’s go PayPal!!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 12 July 2018, 17:22:51
well hopefully in 48-72 hours well know something. thanks for keeping us up to speed.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Hamel on Thu, 12 July 2018, 18:39:30
Uh, let's not be hasty about disregarding buyer protection. We will definitely try out best to find a solution that benefits the buyers. While the hype might be great now and we're all ok with deferring buyer protection, 4 months down the road it'll be highly possible some of us might not feel the same way again.

On another note, PayPal has been notified about the possible running of this GB using my business account. They will reply in 48 hours if it's acceptable and we will see how it goes. Thanks again for all your patience.

Hope this works out! Crossing my fingers!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: rioc on Fri, 13 July 2018, 03:15:44
hehe, PP for the rescue... I wonder why shopify hasn't responded yet though. They aren't some shoddy business afaik, are they?
Should be big enough to respond in due notice. Also Canada based, or not?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 16 July 2018, 16:23:38
Just checking in, has paypal replied regarding this yet?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 16 July 2018, 17:11:27
any updates? hope to hear some good news :P
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: razor_blade on Mon, 16 July 2018, 18:25:28
Holy ****, I forgot about this and am totally in! I might need to make a slight color change,how should I go about doing it? Via the Google doc?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 16 July 2018, 18:36:16
Holy ****, I forgot about this and am totally in! I might need to make a slight color change,how should I go about doing it? Via the Google doc?

Oh, if you haven't checked in with this in a while you should know that there's a possibility that the GB will be cancelled.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 16 July 2018, 19:07:16
The raffle is over, and the winners were picked. And this may not happen, as beaming's Shopify account got put on hold. Read the last couple of pages of the thread...
Right now those who got in are holding thier breath and hoping that this can be resolved and the gb will actually happen ....
Holy ****, I forgot about this and am totally in! I might need to make a slight color change,how should I go about doing it? Via the Google doc?

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: razor_blade on Mon, 16 July 2018, 20:14:11
The raffle is over, and the winners were picked. And this may not happen, as beaming's Shopify account got put on hold. Read the last couple of pages of the thread...
Right now those who got in are holding thier breath and hoping that this can be resolved and the gb will actually happen ....
Holy ****, I forgot about this and am totally in! I might need to make a slight color change,how should I go about doing it? Via the Google doc?

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I see that now. I'm just glad that I didn't miss an invoice! Here's hoping that it all gets resolved and I get a Grail board!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 16 July 2018, 20:55:38

Me too sir... Me too... All fingers , and toes crossed !!!



I see that now. I'm just glad that I didn't miss an invoice! Here's hoping that it all gets resolved and I get a Grail board!



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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Mon, 16 July 2018, 23:54:15
Some good news, Shopify has unlocked our payment account, apparently it was put on hold as we had a product that was linked to an anime? anime companies smh

invoicing to restart in about 24 hours, I'm working through your changes and will have it reflected on the Google sheet before I send out the invoices, appreciate your patience so far, we are all back on track :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 16 July 2018, 23:56:33
Some good news, Shopify has unlocked our payment account, apparently it was put on hold as we had a product that was linked to an anime? anime companies smh

invoicing to restart in about 24 hours, I'm working through your changes and will have it reflected on the Google sheet before I send out the invoices, appreciate your patience so far, we are all back on track :)

Fantastic news. Can’t wait to pay my invoice and get this gb moving forward.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 16 July 2018, 23:56:49
Some good news, Shopify has unlocked our payment account, apparently it was put on hold as we had a product that was linked to an anime? anime companies smh

invoicing to restart in about 24 hours, I'm working through your changes and will have it reflected on the Google sheet before I send out the invoices, appreciate your patience so far, we are all back on track :)
Whoo hooo !!!! This is awesome news !
I had a few changes and additions.. will keep an eye on the Google sheet...
So happy right now !!!

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 17 July 2018, 00:01:37
Oh yea, IIRC 1-2 people pulled out, which is fine since we have not invoiced everyone. Will be bumping people up tonight once I'm home.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Hamel on Tue, 17 July 2018, 00:05:29
Some good news, Shopify has unlocked our payment account, apparently it was put on hold as we had a product that was linked to an anime? anime companies smh

invoicing to restart in about 24 hours, I'm working through your changes and will have it reflected on the Google sheet before I send out the invoices, appreciate your patience so far, we are all back on track :)

Glad to hear this!
I'm almost crying in my work after hearing that it's happening lol  :p
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: razor_blade on Tue, 17 July 2018, 00:06:41
Hell yeah! I will PM my updates tomorrow morning. Thanks for making this happen!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 17 July 2018, 00:17:35
This news has made my entire week. I'm super excited for this and I'm so happy that it's finally happening!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 17 July 2018, 00:22:16
Anyone know what layouts we can use with this pcb?
Title: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Tue, 17 July 2018, 00:27:51
Glad to hear the Shopify issue is resolved!

@beamingrobot, do you have a render or photo of the WKL version?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Tue, 17 July 2018, 00:40:03
Some good news, Shopify has unlocked our payment account, apparently it was put on hold as we had a product that was linked to an anime? anime companies smh

invoicing to restart in about 24 hours, I'm working through your changes and will have it reflected on the Google sheet before I send out the invoices, appreciate your patience so far, we are all back on track :)

Glad to hear this!
I'm almost crying in my work after hearing that it's happening lol  :p

Nice~
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 17 July 2018, 04:50:55
WKL:

(https://i.imgur.com/4dl1Ox5.png)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: regionfree on Tue, 17 July 2018, 04:57:02
WKL:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/4dl1Ox5.png)


I heard the owner of that Kira80 is a very handsome fella.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 17 July 2018, 05:08:22
WKL:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/4dl1Ox5.png)


I heard the owner of that Kira80 is a very handsome fella.
:-X  :-\

can user "niknok88" contact me via GH PM? Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: germy on Tue, 17 July 2018, 06:54:36
Hi so if I would like to get in on the waiting list, what should I do? Would love to get one of the TKLs.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: bjof on Tue, 17 July 2018, 07:41:51
Would like to get in on this as well. May I know if there's any slot left?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 17 July 2018, 07:46:59
Back up slots have already been selected and afaik no transfers allowed
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 17 July 2018, 08:32:25
We're taking a break today from issuing any further invoices (been QC-ing other buys as well). I will add people from the waiting list into the main buy according to the order listed. We're looking at 3 slots open for now.

Also, please specify if you'd like to have WK/WKL in reply to the email sent out, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Tue, 17 July 2018, 08:41:56
Super happy this came through gonna drop some money at the bank and ill be paid in 24-28 hrs.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: schlep on Tue, 17 July 2018, 08:47:49
Made my payment. Now we wait.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Hamel on Tue, 17 July 2018, 09:18:43
Got my invoice paid, rep'd the email with my preference!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Tue, 17 July 2018, 09:22:17
Haven't received my invoice yet  :(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: mathleejj on Tue, 17 July 2018, 09:53:07
Paid my invoice. Also replied about changes i would like to make to my order.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Tue, 17 July 2018, 10:54:59
Paid and replied - hopefully the next few months will go by quickly.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Tue, 17 July 2018, 10:55:57
Aaand paid! Thanks so much!

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Tue, 17 July 2018, 12:36:34
So glad the shopify issues got sorted out. Now the wait begins!  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Tue, 17 July 2018, 13:01:52
Paid and replied ...

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: //gainsborough on Tue, 17 July 2018, 13:39:43
Paid!!!  I'm so excited that the GB is proceeding forward!  Thanks for wading through all the financial stuff as well, dude.  I think I speak for everyone when I say that it's much appreciated that you put in the effort to make this run =)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Tue, 17 July 2018, 17:31:31
mark me paid and WK  :p
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 17 July 2018, 19:24:18
Oof just paid :thumb: the hype intensifies
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: nulltorious on Tue, 17 July 2018, 20:14:54
PM sent
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 18 July 2018, 08:41:03
Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 18 July 2018, 12:00:11
Thanks as always for the updates Beamingrobot.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Wed, 18 July 2018, 18:46:05


We're taking a break today from issuing any further invoices (been QC-ing other buys as well). I will add people from the waiting list into the main buy according to the order listed. We're looking at 3 slots open for now.

Also, please specify if you'd like to have WK/WKL in reply to the email sent out, thanks!

This post made my day! Number 2 on waitlist!

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: eyedrop on Wed, 18 July 2018, 19:17:52
^^ Congrats, told you don't lose faith!  Enjoy your board once you get it.   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 18 July 2018, 19:20:59
We're taking a break today from issuing any further invoices (been QC-ing other buys as well). I will add people from the waiting list into the main buy according to the order listed. We're looking at 3 slots open for now.

Also, please specify if you'd like to have WK/WKL in reply to the email sent out, thanks!

Responded to email - WK for me please  :thumb:.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: germy on Wed, 18 July 2018, 20:22:50


We're taking a break today from issuing any further invoices (been QC-ing other buys as well). I will add people from the waiting list into the main buy according to the order listed. We're looking at 3 slots open for now.

Also, please specify if you'd like to have WK/WKL in reply to the email sent out, thanks!

This post made my day! Number 2 on waitlist!

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Congrats!! I'm not even on there sadly. Would be the 14th person in line anyways.. Have to believe in a miracle at this point.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Wed, 18 July 2018, 20:51:22
Paid. Thanks beaming.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 19 July 2018, 02:04:01
I paid and replied with my WinKey choice, but the difference sheet is not yet updated... I hope it's good... Not pushing, just wanted to make sure that I'm not the only ones whose payment status and choice of WK/WKL is yet to be updated...

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 19 July 2018, 23:01:25
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY im on of the 4 people who can purchase the numpad <3

If i knew that the price was in SGD and not in USD i would have surely bought the keyboard as well.

FeelsBadMan

The price is in USD. It's only when you make the payment that it's shown in SGD
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 20 July 2018, 01:27:45
We're still settling invoices, we've had some changes and cancellations as well so we seek everyone's understanding that this is progressing slowly. Please decide if you would like to join or drop out within the next 48 hours.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Fri, 20 July 2018, 04:03:45
We're still settling invoices, we've had some changes and cancellations as well so we seek everyone's understanding that this is progressing slowly. Please decide if you would like to join or drop out within the next 48 hours.
Definitely in. Should I be worried that my payment status is not reflected on the Google sheets ? I guess not, I'm assuming most people have paid by now, and the Google sheet is just not updated yet...

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Carlobv on Fri, 20 July 2018, 07:45:40
We're still settling invoices, we've had some changes and cancellations as well so we seek everyone's understanding that this is progressing slowly. Please decide if you would like to join or drop out within the next 48 hours.
Definitely in. Should I be worried that my payment status is not reflected on the Google sheets ? I guess not, I'm assuming most people have paid by now, and the Google sheet is just not updated yet...

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Mine isn't updated either.  I'm assuming he's just behind doing so.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Sat, 21 July 2018, 19:05:55
Beaming, how can we make adjustments to our order if we are on the waitlist? Will we be added to the Google doc once confirmed?

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Sat, 21 July 2018, 21:09:14
Beaming, how can we make adjustments to our order if we are on the waitlist? Will we be added to the Google doc once confirmed?

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In the mail with the invoice he asked to reply him any possible changes on your order. I’m pretty sure he will do the same, if you are on the waitlist and get a spot.
Title: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Sun, 22 July 2018, 09:04:58
Alright some of you people who paid and are asking for refunds, please don't be ****s about it. Note that Shopify takes a cut and we can not refund the portion even if I wanted to.

I've pushed some people up the list, check your emails. We have 8 people dropping out/cancelling or refunding/whatever the reason is. I'm adding 5 more from the list and no more.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sun, 22 July 2018, 15:14:33
That is unfortunate ... I for one am super happy that this is finally happening...
You should probably set an end date for all cancellations/changes... I believe everyone's had more than enough time to mull this over... minds are fickle I suppose

Alright some of you people who paid and are asking for refunds, please don't be ****s about it. Note that Shopify takes a cut and we can not refund the portion even if I wanted to.

I've pushed some people up the list, check your emails. We have 8 people dropping out/cancelling or refunding/whatever the reason is. I'm adding 5 more from the list and no more.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 22 July 2018, 15:30:54
Sad cause my paid on the sheet isn’t in caps :(


On a serious note, this is taking so long smh. Make up your minds people :p

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: eyedrop on Sun, 22 July 2018, 16:46:57
I see the spreadsheet has been updated.

I paid but it is not reflected in the spreadsheet.   :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Sun, 22 July 2018, 17:16:42
Alright some of you people who paid and are asking for refunds, please don't be ****s about it. Note that Shopify takes a cut and we can not refund the portion even if I wanted to.

I've pushed some people up the list, check your emails. We have 8 people dropping out/cancelling or refunding/whatever the reason is. I'm adding 5 more from the list and no more.


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Sad to hear that the payments are such a hassle, especially after the whole Shopify issues as well!
Hope everyone pays up quickly and we can have a nice GB experience after that!

Keep up the good work! :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Sun, 22 July 2018, 22:41:13
Alright some of you people who paid and are asking for refunds, please don't be ****s about it. Note that Shopify takes a cut and we can not refund the portion even if I wanted to.

I've pushed some people up the list, check your emails. We have 8 people dropping out/cancelling or refunding/whatever the reason is. I'm adding 5 more from the list and no more.


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Beaming, I'm no longer on the list.  I did not ask to be dropped.  Is that by mistake, or did you decide to do that?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: heyitsqi on Mon, 23 July 2018, 12:02:17
I'd be willing to pick up a KIRA-S if you guys still have spots/someone wants to transfer.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Tue, 24 July 2018, 10:17:33
I am no longer part of this GB because Beaming unilaterally decided to drop me despite my objections.  This is really disappointing to me since I have been an avid fan of KIRA design and have been looking forward to the perfect trio of KIRAs since I've been fortunate to be selected in all three KIRA60, KIRA EXS and KIRA80 raffles.
I wanted to share what happend since I believe there is relevant info for the participants of this GB.

This unpleasant experience started right before the flurry of invoices were sent out.
Beaming contacted me via PM asking
"Given that you've previously requested for a partial refund during one of our buys and the history of the whole KIRA60 thing. Are you completely ok with possible small defects that do turn up on the boards? Please let me know as soon as possible."

I replied back asking to clarify what he means and that there is no need to worry unless there will be serious defects like those turned up on my KIRA60.

Subsequently, Beaming sent this message
"I am Caleb. For the KIRA60 we did not receive other complaints. I think for the sake of all of us, can I suggest that you do not join the GB?"

I replied with my objection and asked to put the non-sense behind and move forward.

Few days later I discovered that I'm no longer on the list.
I also briefly looked into Beaming's claim that there was no other complaint.
Without going into detail, it was pretty easy to find a fed up participant in his past GB. That person (reputable guy in the local keyboarding commnunity) told me his complaints were simply ignored and that drove him crazy.

Here is the defects on my KIRA60 for your reference so you know that I did not make frivolous claims.
Dents: https://i.imgur.com/XT5BrVi.jpg
Ano defects: https://i.imgur.com/k3BA9QD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/oGLh1Tl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GR00mpp.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sMxaLuh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BFDJrzT.jpg

Here is the full message exchange.
Received: https://i.imgur.com/yegJmqO.jpg
Sent: https://i.imgur.com/syazX6w.jpg

Take this post with a grain of salt since it represents one person's experience.
Based on my first person experience though--having received a defective product, having dealt punitive response for reporting a legit defect claim--I no longer have confidence that I will receive quality product or good GB experience from Beaming.
So, despite the disappointment of getting abruptly dropped and giving up the dream of the perfect KIRA trio, I'm actually little relieved.

I shared what's going on with some acquaintances who happened to be participants in this GB, and they asked how to deal with the risks knowing what happened to me and that other fed up guy.
I asked around and the best tip I got was to ask the GB runner to specify the quality standards and servicing policy.  I would encourage the remaining participants to ask Beaming to clarify what constitutes defects--surely you are not "completely ok with possible small defects that do turn up on the boards" if they mean dents and ano defects.  Ask Beaming to confirm that he will answer inquiries regarding defects and provide servicing to them.

Lastly, I'll be selling my defective KIRA60 and sell my spot on KIRA EXS, so if you are interested, pls PM me.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: clik_clak on Tue, 24 July 2018, 10:25:03
I am no longer part of this GB because Beaming unilaterally decided to drop me despite my objections.  This is really disappointing to me since I have been an avid fan of KIRA design and have been looking forward to the perfect trio of KIRAs since I've been fortunate to be selected in all three KIRA60, KIRA EXS and KIRA80 raffles.
I wanted to share what happend since I believe there is relevant info for the participants of this GB.

2 little dents and a couple ano spots makes your keyboard defective? A lot of people seem to forget that a keyboard is a tool and not a piece of art. I understand wanting things as close to perfect as possible, but once a keyboard is in shipping, there's very little a seller can do.

TBH, I don't blame beaming at all for not wanting to do deal with complaints like that.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: heyitsqi on Tue, 24 July 2018, 11:08:00
I am no longer part of this GB because Beaming unilaterally decided to drop me despite my objections.  This is really disappointing to me since I have been an avid fan of KIRA design and have been looking forward to the perfect trio of KIRAs since I've been fortunate to be selected in all three KIRA60, KIRA EXS and KIRA80 raffles.
I wanted to share what happend since I believe there is relevant info for the participants of this GB.

2 little dents and a couple ano spots makes your keyboard defective? A lot of people seem to forget that a keyboard is a tool and not a piece of art. I understand wanting things as close to perfect as possible, but once a keyboard is in shipping, there's very little a seller can do.

TBH, I don't blame beaming at all for not wanting to do deal with complaints like that.

Considering the amount of money spent I don't think it's unfair for him to raise complaints about it. That's like saying when I buy a car and the sales person asks me if its cool that it just has a few dents and some scratched paint. It's just a tool to get you to point A and B right?

I'm not clear when/where the defects happened but if it came from shipping damaged that's completely on the seller for not packing things properly. Not the buyer's fault.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Chimera on Tue, 24 July 2018, 12:08:26
I am no longer part of this GB because Beaming unilaterally decided to drop me despite my objections.  This is really disappointing to me since I have been an avid fan of KIRA design and have been looking forward to the perfect trio of KIRAs since I've been fortunate to be selected in all three KIRA60, KIRA EXS and KIRA80 raffles.
I wanted to share what happend since I believe there is relevant info for the participants of this GB.

This unpleasant experience started right before the flurry of invoices were sent out.
Beaming contacted me via PM asking
"Given that you've previously requested for a partial refund during one of our buys and the history of the whole KIRA60 thing. Are you completely ok with possible small defects that do turn up on the boards? Please let me know as soon as possible."

I replied back asking to clarify what he means and that there is no need to worry unless there will be serious defects like those turned up on my KIRA60.

Subsequently, Beaming sent this message
"I am Caleb. For the KIRA60 we did not receive other complaints. I think for the sake of all of us, can I suggest that you do not join the GB?"

I replied with my objection and asked to put the non-sense behind and move forward.

Few days later I discovered that I'm no longer on the list.
I also briefly looked into Beaming's claim that there was no other complaint.
Without going into detail, it was pretty easy to find a fed up participant in his past GB. That person (reputable guy in the local keyboarding commnunity) told me his complaints were simply ignored and that drove him crazy.

Here is the defects on my KIRA60 for your reference so you know that I did not make frivolous claims.
Dents: https://i.imgur.com/XT5BrVi.jpg
Ano defects: https://i.imgur.com/k3BA9QD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/oGLh1Tl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GR00mpp.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sMxaLuh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BFDJrzT.jpg

Here is the full message exchange.
Received: https://i.imgur.com/yegJmqO.jpg
Sent: https://i.imgur.com/syazX6w.jpg

Take this post with a grain of salt since it represents one person's experience.
Based on my first person experience though--having received a defective product, having dealt punitive response for reporting a legit defect claim--I no longer have confidence that I will receive quality product or good GB experience from Beaming.
So, despite the disappointment of getting abruptly dropped and giving up the dream of the perfect KIRA trio, I'm actually little relieved.

I shared what's going on with some acquaintances who happened to be participants in this GB, and they asked how to deal with the risks knowing what happened to me and that other fed up guy.
I asked around and the best tip I got was to ask the GB runner to specify the quality standards and servicing policy.  I would encourage the remaining participants to ask Beaming to clarify what constitutes defects--surely you are not "completely ok with possible small defects that do turn up on the boards" if they mean dents and ano defects.  Ask Beaming to confirm that he will answer inquiries regarding defects and provide servicing to them.

Lastly, I'll be selling my defective KIRA60 and sell my spot on KIRA EXS, so if you are interested, pls PM me.

Whoa that kira 60 is rough.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 24 July 2018, 13:01:24
It's a valid complaint, I would've said something myself. It really doesn't look like shipping damage which means it passed beamings QC :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: mkarlsson on Tue, 24 July 2018, 13:25:19
Valid complaint from my point of view.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 24 July 2018, 18:39:35
It's not perfect, but I was told you were given a significant amount of refund for this "defective" keyboard that you are now planning to sell. I advised beamingrobot against doing this group buy even before he launched it, and because of this I will advise the same again.

Pretty amusing that you only shared this when you were taken out of the TKL buy. A cancellation will not affect me personally, only those who wanted the board. What we get in return is not worth the hassle of doing it, even more so for beamingrobot since he handles everything about the group buys.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Tue, 24 July 2018, 19:01:00
It's not perfect, but I was told you were given a significant amount of refund for this "defective" keyboard that you are now planning to sell. I advised beamingrobot against doing this group buy even before he launched it, and because of this I will advise the same again.

Pretty amusing that you only shared this when you were taken out of the TKL buy. A cancellation will not affect me personally, only those who wanted the board. What we get in return is not worth the hassle of doing it, even more so for beamingrobot since he handles everything about the group buys.

this, i was gonna say it but i didnt want to. you got refunded you should be happy imo, i mean he gave you the option to wait and have it fixed you opted not to. if you caused problems previously i wouldnt expect him to want to deal with it again. just my thoughts but whatever i dont want one sour apple to **** me getting this board lol
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 24 July 2018, 19:43:03
One persons experience shouldn’t ruin this gb. There are FAR WORSE buys and cases out there and one little kira60 doesn’t dictate beaming’s ability to deliver quality. To be fair, we haven’t seen the exs, but kira60 went fine and I’m positive the exs gb will be just as good. Anyways, hopefully beaming doesn’t decide to chance this over one rotten egg, but understandable if he does :-[
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Tue, 24 July 2018, 22:20:33
If there is restitution provided in the first place I don't why it would be an issue. Just because he didn't get into the buy he wants to bring down the whole GB.
Bravo, some slow claps from me.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Chimera on Tue, 24 July 2018, 23:30:37
One persons experience shouldn’t ruin this gb. There are FAR WORSE buys and cases out there and one little kira60 doesn’t dictate beaming’s ability to deliver quality. To be fair, we haven’t seen the exs, but kira60 went fine and I’m positive the exs gb will be just as good. Anyways, hope5fully beaming doesn’t decide to chance this over one rotten egg, but understandable if he does :-[

This is true afaik. The kira 60 buy went well iirc
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 25 July 2018, 01:59:45
One persons experience shouldn’t ruin this gb. There are FAR WORSE buys and cases out there and one little kira60 doesn’t dictate beaming’s ability to deliver quality. To be fair, we haven’t seen the exs, but kira60 went fine and I’m positive the exs gb will be just as good. Anyways, hopefully beaming doesn’t decide to chance this over one rotten egg, but understandable if he does :-[

Same sentiment here. Just because one person has an issue, should not deprive the the others off a great board. From the thread, it looks beamingrobot just wanted a yes/no answer to if issues like in the past would be overlooked. A yes/no answer was not provided (perhaps a long winded no). beamingrobot removed the participant.

I hope we can get moving from here... 
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: bmwyc on Wed, 25 July 2018, 08:00:55
hi there! i think i got the wrong username AZW898 (i recently use this username because its our son n daughters initial) i use bmwyc because its my wife n my initials. is it ok the raffle winner in on azw898 not bmwyc? thanks

Winners:

KIRA80 / KIRA S:

Coffeeshopcoder
bciamny
schlep
jshane
Leovan_13
sroop
kissingyou
niknok88
Hamel
OracleKev
CornCha0s
kevinlim02
Vincentalpha
stepstone82
spiritjeon
necromanx
foxmancore
random0987
bloznalisd
bminhz
forevermadrigal
jubjubcity
papedahut
Att1cus
NovaComet
Bubblegum
clasicks
eyedrop
//gainsborough
E3E
redbanshee
kokugatsu
Carlobv
jumpmineralwater
Rempired
elDuderino
etherealsound
ridiclewis
oHimari
koojahyung
razor_blade
mathleejj
yonghf
jaymaikan
NovaComet
SBN
Superdoedoe
olivia
Oblotzky
Jkush463

51-65:

OffbeatClacking
create_alt_delete
clik_clak
sparkle
azw898 <-----------------------------------------------------------
vonswoopington
henz
apple8500
Jamps
mops
lsu1245
moonmembrane
AstralBandit

KIRA S only:

heycheeeno
Jimmare
Mikiberry
nulltorious
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Wed, 25 July 2018, 08:57:23
Just got a refund notification. I'm guessing the GB is now cancelled :(

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 25 July 2018, 09:06:45
Alright, this will probably be my final official update on this GB.

Given that we still have 10+ invoices unpaid (more for the numpad) and too much delay on this buy, I will initiate a full refund for everyone, covering all fees involved. You will receive your full amount back over the course of the next two days. Apologies if you really wanted the board, but we definitely cannot proceed without the required MOQ, and we've had far too many drop outs/unpaid invoices and all sorts of shenanigans to make this worth our time.

Please note that this is a joined decision between thesiscamper and myself, and this does not come lightly. We've deliberated over this and even met up over the weekend and talked about it.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Wed, 25 July 2018, 09:07:02
Just got a refund notification. I'm guessing the GB is now cancelled :(

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Same. Hoping that there will be a reboot!


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: bmwyc on Wed, 25 July 2018, 09:10:53
sad to hear what happened. :( im very much excited for this kira since i was first introduced by keikun17 with hia kira exs nerfthis.

hopefully i can get another slot next time (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180725/5b8c8a4e5de3cc17c4a6c88e39dbc0be.jpg)


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: foxmancore on Wed, 25 July 2018, 09:12:59
Aw was really looking forward to this board :(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: kokugatsu on Wed, 25 July 2018, 09:17:32
Damn, I'm super sad about this. Hope this gets a reboot soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 25 July 2018, 09:23:15
Oh, no! Hope you guys can re-do it further down the line. Was really excited about this one :(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: beerafffe1 on Wed, 25 July 2018, 09:24:56
Ah, thats sad to hear. Didn't get picked in the raffle but I assumed this should have no trouble with MOQs etc. given the limited quantity. Hopefully there is another run, the board is beautiful!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 25 July 2018, 09:40:40
 :confused: this is total garbage but i felt it coming.. Well beaming and camper if you have an proto you wanna sell i got 1k back in my acct ill pay for one out right. Missed modern M0110 for this and zephyr this was not what i was hoping. I would have picked up another slot if it would have helped. 
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 25 July 2018, 10:03:15
:confused: this is total garbage but i felt it coming.. Well beaming and camper if you have an proto you wanna sell i got 1k back in my acct ill pay for one out right. Missed modern M0110 for this and zephyr this was not what i was hoping. I would have picked up another slot if it would have helped.
I don't even have one! Was gonna get mine made together with the GB as I always do, but thanks for the support, lots of other cool boards coming out as well  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 25 July 2018, 10:03:45
Oh no! I really wanted this to happen so bad, especially after the Shopify thing.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 25 July 2018, 10:22:28
:confused: this is total garbage but i felt it coming.. Well beaming and camper if you have an proto you wanna sell i got 1k back in my acct ill pay for one out right. Missed modern M0110 for this and zephyr this was not what i was hoping. I would have picked up another slot if it would have helped.
I don't even have one! Was gonna get mine made together with the GB as I always do, but thanks for the support, lots of other cool boards coming out as well  :thumb:

 :'(  sadface
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: kristmascane on Wed, 25 July 2018, 10:27:29
now that this isn't gonna happen, lets get a real run of the KN2.10 ;)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: elDuderino on Wed, 25 July 2018, 10:47:09
 :'(

I was so excited for this...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 25 July 2018, 11:13:20
Oh man, that's so unfortunate but I totally get that you guys do this out of your own passion for the hobby and I can only wish you the best in all future endeavors! If there ever is another Kira TKL GB, I will definitely be in for it. RIP best TKL of 2018
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: heyitsqi on Wed, 25 July 2018, 11:23:36
Dang. I really wanted a numpad too. I would have taken over someones spot :(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: bciamny on Wed, 25 July 2018, 12:04:22
sucks that it didn't work out. i had made a request about how to pay my invoice but with all the other noise in this gb i didn't press for a quick answer. i hope i didn't add to the mayhem. good luck on the future buys.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 25 July 2018, 15:41:50
crap. got refunded. Dunno what to say. This was the first time I got picked in a raffle, was realy looking forward to this.
I hope there is a reboot at some point. This was a nice clean TKL design.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 25 July 2018, 16:16:56
My smile and optimism: gone.  =(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sythie on Wed, 25 July 2018, 16:19:21
Oh man, that's so unfortunate but I totally get that you guys do this out of your own passion for the hobby and I can only wish you the best in all future endeavors! If there ever is another Kira TKL GB, I will definitely be in for it. RIP best TKL of 2018
Second this.
I hope there will ISO if it is ever rebooted.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: SBN on Wed, 25 July 2018, 17:53:18
I know I repeat the last posts but I still want to say, that I’m quite sad this GB didn’t work out. Especially since the Kira60 was absolutely perfect!

But also a huge THANKS to beamingrobot and thesiscamper for doing these GBs and trying so hard to get these boards to us!!
Hoping for a reboot!

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 25 July 2018, 22:17:29
Dam saw the refund email. Guess I've lost $15 bucks to fees
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 25 July 2018, 22:59:53
Dam saw the refund email. Guess I've lost $15 bucks to fees

You obviously didn’t read what beaming said :p
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 25 July 2018, 23:38:49
Dam saw the refund email. Guess I've lost $15 bucks to fees

You obviously didn’t read what beaming said :p

Nah international fees for using a credit card. Dunno if they'd be included or not afterwards the refunds have been sent
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: superdoedoe on Thu, 26 July 2018, 01:23:29
Dam saw the refund email. Guess I've lost $15 bucks to fees

You obviously didn’t read what beaming said :p

Nah international fees for using a credit card. Dunno if they'd be included or not afterwards the refunds have been sent

But yeah didn't see what Beaming said :D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 26 July 2018, 03:02:53
What TKL GB would you guys suggest to join right now? GB or off the shelf.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 26 July 2018, 04:27:57
Dam saw the refund email. Guess I've lost $15 bucks to fees

You obviously didn’t read what beaming said :p

Nah international fees for using a credit card. Dunno if they'd be included or not afterwards the refunds have been sent

Ah, that fee. Don't know about that one as I am out of it as well :(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Thu, 26 July 2018, 19:21:03
Anyone else not have their refund post to their account yet? Specifically, anyone else in US?

I had a heck of a time getting my bank to allow the initial transaction. Now I'm starting to worry they are blocking the refund.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 26 July 2018, 20:50:52
Anyone else not have their refund post to their account yet? Specifically, anyone else in US?

I had a heck of a time getting my bank to allow the initial transaction. Now I'm starting to worry they are blocking the refund.
I did not have issues for the refund, but I had to spend 30mins on the phone with my bank to let them charge it initially. I'd say call up the bank... And perhaps PM beaming to see if there's any transaction I'd you can use when you talk to the bank...

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Thu, 26 July 2018, 21:01:25
Anyone else not have their refund post to their account yet? Specifically, anyone else in US?

I had a heck of a time getting my bank to allow the initial transaction. Now I'm starting to worry they are blocking the refund.

I am having this exact issue - I had to call my bank to allow me to pay it as well, but so far nothing posted to account.  I'm thinking maybe it just has a couple days of processing time, but I was starting to think the exact same thing as you - maybe they aren't allowing the refund?  That's weird though.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 26 July 2018, 21:02:54
Alright so since I've received some emails about this, here's some info about refunds:

https://ecommerce.shopify.com/c/payments-shipping-fulfilment/t/refunds-how-long-will-it-take-for-a-customer-to-get-their-money-back-357631

TL:DR: basically it takes 3-5 days for it to reach you, please do not attempt to chargeback before that.

Some explanation on why you should not chargeback asap:

1. Shopify has withheld the entire portion of this GB
2. They have deducted $ from my CC for every single refund we've processed, and all refunds have been processed
3. I now have a huge CC bill to pay at the end of the month, the funds were withheld due to chargebacks and stuff
4. I'd appreciate if people do not charge back first, it takes time for the refund to reach you. Suffice to say the money is on its way
5. Why does it take so long? I have no idea, based on other online shops I've used this seems to be par for the course since we're not huge fronts like Amazon etc

Hope this helps, some of you were literally just refunded like 10 hours ago
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: att1cus on Thu, 26 July 2018, 21:04:42
Alright so since I've received some emails about this, here's some info about refunds:

https://ecommerce.shopify.com/c/payments-shipping-fulfilment/t/refunds-how-long-will-it-take-for-a-customer-to-get-their-money-back-357631

TL:DR: basically it takes 3-5 days for it to reach you, please do not attempt to chargeback before that.

Some explanation on why you should not chargeback asap:

1. Shopify has withheld the entire portion of this GB
2. They have deducted $ from my CC for every single refund we've processed, and all refunds have been processed
3. I now have a huge CC bill to pay at the end of the month, the funds were withheld due to chargebacks and stuff
4. I'd appreciate if people do not charge back first, it takes time for the refund to reach you. Suffice to say the money is on its way
5. Why does it take so long? I have no idea, based on other online shops I've used this seems to be par for the course since we're not huge fronts like Amazon etc

Hope this helps, some of you were literally just refunded like 10 hours ago

Thanks for the update, beaming.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 26 July 2018, 21:07:39
Also, in the future please note that due to things like timezone differences and stuff it's very likely that your bank has just received the instructions for the refund to occur today, I'm not sure how everyone's banks work but usually it takes more than 1 business day to process these kinds of transactions. However, if it's been a week and you still don't hear anything then please let me know!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Thu, 26 July 2018, 21:10:18
Also, in the future please note that due to things like timezone differences and stuff it's very likely that your bank has just received the instructions for the refund to occur today, I'm not sure how everyone's banks work but usually it takes more than 1 business day to process these kinds of transactions. However, if it's been a week and you still don't hear anything then please let me know!
Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.

(And feel free to disregard my email)

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 26 July 2018, 21:12:18
No worries, I understand everyone would prefer that the refunds come in quick, but since this differs from bank to bank all I can say is give it a few days and it'll usually work out. If the funds still don't appear after a few business days then PM me and I'll get you some info to help facilitate things on your end, this applies to all :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 26 July 2018, 23:41:52
Banks suck. I hope beaming did not lose any personal funds in all this drama...

I guess a lot of folk s are thinking it, , maybe I'll say it aloud... are there any vendors that would accept cryptos ? BTC/ETH ? This would be a heck a lot faster...
(sorry if cryptos are frowned upon here...)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: bminhz on Fri, 27 July 2018, 00:11:27
Got my refunded and still sad that this buy cannot happen. Would raffle winners who paid get priority if this buy returned? And those who didn't paid up in time or caused trouble be black listed?  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 30 July 2018, 20:50:08
Another vendor has expressed willingness to help, and agreed to give priority to raffle winners. EVE will take over production if it pushes through.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: razor_blade on Mon, 30 July 2018, 20:56:01
I'm down for whatever, so long as I get another chance at these boards. Getting selected was one of the best things that happened this year.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: att1cus on Mon, 30 July 2018, 20:57:16
I'd definitely be in if another vendor picked it up.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Mon, 30 July 2018, 20:57:26
I'm down for whatever, so long as I get another chance at these boards. Getting selected was one of the best things that happened this year.
I feel the same way

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: kokugatsu on Mon, 30 July 2018, 20:59:29
Yes please.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 30 July 2018, 21:04:32
Another vendor has expressed willingness to help, and agreed to give priority to raffle winners. EVE will take over production if it pushes through.

Oof so that’s what was planned. Hopefully this happens. Very exciting news :D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 30 July 2018, 21:10:00
Another vendor has expressed willingness to help, and agreed to give priority to raffle winners. EVE will take over production if it pushes through.

The dream is restored.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 30 July 2018, 21:23:10
id like to see it picked up but will they be mass making it or just a small run as this was going to be?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: beamingrobot on Mon, 30 July 2018, 21:39:41
I'll submit the list of raffle winners to thesis who will forward it to the new vendor, rest assured we'll do our best to help those who've paid previously.

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: SBN on Mon, 30 July 2018, 21:41:11
I'll submit the list of raffle winners to thesis who will forward it to the new vendor, rest assured we'll do our best to help those who've paid previously.

Awesome that you are working on another try!! Really looking forward and hope this time it will go through! :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Hamel on Mon, 30 July 2018, 21:46:36
Another vendor has expressed willingness to help, and agreed to give priority to raffle winners. EVE will take over production if it pushes through.

Now this is a exciting news to hear. Hope it works out well!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sroop on Mon, 30 July 2018, 21:54:49
What is dead may never die


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: kokugatsu on Mon, 30 July 2018, 22:03:18
I'll submit the list of raffle winners to thesis who will forward it to the new vendor, rest assured we'll do our best to help those who've paid previously.
Thanks beaming. Really appreciate the effort you put into the GB.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 30 July 2018, 22:24:26
I'll submit the list of raffle winners to thesis who will forward it to the new vendor, rest assured we'll do our best to help those who've paid previously.

Dope thanks 😃
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 30 July 2018, 23:55:47
I'll submit the list of raffle winners to thesis who will forward it to the new vendor, rest assured we'll do our best to help those who've paid previously.

This is the best thing I've read today !!! Awesome news ! Thanks beaming & thesiscamper... A KIRA is a dream board for me, and it was the first time I ever got picked for a raffle ... I'm hoping I can finally get this !!!


Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 31 July 2018, 00:17:20
Thank thesiscamper, he's been putting in a lot of effort to try and get these out in one way or another :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: jumpmineralwater on Tue, 31 July 2018, 00:29:30
Thanks for all the effort to make this happen :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 01 August 2018, 11:11:45
Thank thesiscamper, he's been putting in a lot of effort to try and get these out in one way or another :)

Thanks to both of you! I really appreciate the effort into making this a reality.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: heyitsqi on Wed, 01 August 2018, 16:01:50
If anyone in the KIRA-S (numpad?) raffle winners backed out or something I'd def be interested in taking their spot potentially.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Thu, 02 August 2018, 22:03:46
Yooooooooo!!  This might still happen!?  YOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 02 August 2018, 22:18:15
Yooooooooo!!  This might still happen!?  YOOOOOOOOOOOO!
It is very likely, the vendor and EVE just need to agree on some details so we'll have to wait for news. I'd also like to say this isn't 100% confirmed, but more likely to happen than not.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: att1cus on Thu, 02 August 2018, 22:29:24
Yooooooooo!!  This might still happen!?  YOOOOOOOOOOOO!
It is very likely, the vendor and EVE just need to agree on some details so we'll have to wait for news. I'd also like to say this isn't 100% confirmed, but more likely to happen than not.
Thanks for the update thesis!

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 03 August 2018, 00:26:33
Yooooooooo!!  This might still happen!?  YOOOOOOOOOOOO!
It is very likely, the vendor and EVE just need to agree on some details so we'll have to wait for news. I'd also like to say this isn't 100% confirmed, but more likely to happen than not.

Holy carp, getting so hyped for this!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Hamel on Fri, 03 August 2018, 19:52:48
Yooooooooo!!  This might still happen!?  YOOOOOOOOOOOO!
It is very likely, the vendor and EVE just need to agree on some details so we'll have to wait for news. I'd also like to say this isn't 100% confirmed, but more likely to happen than not.

Thanks for the update thesis, I hope my wallet bleeds again for this  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 08 August 2018, 15:28:10
wondering if theres any news, saw the EVE sample :P looks nice!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 08 August 2018, 16:02:52
wondering if theres any news, saw the EVE sample :P looks nice!

(https://preview.ibb.co/ctNoBU/huh.png) (https://ibb.co/jUcc5p)

....huh.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 08 August 2018, 16:24:34
wondering if theres any news, saw the EVE sample :P looks nice!

(https://preview.ibb.co/ctNoBU/huh.png) (https://ibb.co/jUcc5p)

....huh.

Well, the board is pretty hot...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 08 August 2018, 16:26:13
wondering if theres any news, saw the EVE sample :P looks nice!

any links to the eve sample? Also, considering eve made a sample, can we take this as a sign that it's definitely going through?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 08 August 2018, 17:06:59
its on campers page, https://www.instagram.com/p/BmIJbX4DsDzzZqIEO-YcR2-9wyqHl2DjZ_YzoQ0/?hl=en&taken-by=thesiscamper
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 08 August 2018, 17:07:14
its on campers page, https://www.instagram.com/p/BmIJbX4DsDzzZqIEO-YcR2-9wyqHl2DjZ_YzoQ0/?hl=en&taken-by=thesiscamper

Private.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 08 August 2018, 18:34:51
wondering if theres any news, saw the EVE sample :P looks nice!

(https://preview.ibb.co/ctNoBU/huh.png) (https://ibb.co/jUcc5p)

....huh.

Well, the board is pretty hot...

ROFL just caught why you said this thats great
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 15 August 2018, 23:17:31
any updates on the reboot?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Mon, 20 August 2018, 02:55:07
Yooooooooo!!  This might still happen!?  YOOOOOOOOOOOO!
It is very likely, the vendor and EVE just need to agree on some details so we'll have to wait for news. I'd also like to say this isn't 100% confirmed, but more likely to happen than not.

also wondering about the status of the reboot :) (also, with eve in manufacturing, will this mean it'll have the perfectly smooth ano like the moon tkl has?) :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 22 August 2018, 08:36:53
Yess, it appears this is gonna go live.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Wed, 22 August 2018, 08:43:53
Yess, it appears this is gonna go live.
wher? when?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 22 August 2018, 08:52:22
Yess, it appears this is gonna go live.
wher? when?

not sure but on thesis' ig, he posted a bunch of Kira TKL saying "soon"
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Wed, 22 August 2018, 08:54:03
Yess, it appears this is gonna go live.
wher? when?

not sure but on thesis' ig, he posted a bunch of Kira TKL saying "soon"


the kira80? or the other tkl design?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sroop on Wed, 22 August 2018, 08:56:39
Here ya go:

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 22 August 2018, 09:26:04
zFrontier is picking this up, I asked them to prioritize those who joined and paid before and they agreed. We'll see how it works out.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: slxdegrees on Wed, 22 August 2018, 09:30:51
zFrontier is picking this up, I asked them to prioritize those who joined and paid before and they agreed. We'll see how it works out.

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So it will still remain a limited-run GB?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: redbanshee on Wed, 22 August 2018, 09:38:54
zFrontier is picking this up, I asked them to prioritize those who joined and paid before and they agreed. We'll see how it works out.

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Nice so zFrontier then. Looks like the design has changed a bit also, no more acrylic glow?

(https://i.imgur.com/J71FmDb.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 22 August 2018, 09:39:10
zFrontier is picking this up, I asked them to prioritize those who joined and paid before and they agreed. We'll see how it works out.

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So it will still remain a limited-run GB?

Most likely, there's no compelling reason to raise the MOQ.

zFrontier is picking this up, I asked them to prioritize those who joined and paid before and they agreed. We'll see how it works out.

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Nice so zFrontier then. Looks like the design has changed a bit also, no more acrylic glow?

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It never had a diffuser option.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: redbanshee on Wed, 22 August 2018, 09:42:28

zFrontier is picking this up, I asked them to prioritize those who joined and paid before and they agreed. We'll see how it works out.

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Nice so zFrontier then. Looks like the design has changed a bit also, no more acrylic glow?

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It never had a diffuser option.

lmao, i guess its just the glare in the pic then? smh i thought that was acrylic piece all this time lmao
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 22 August 2018, 10:03:57
zFrontier is picking this up, I asked them to prioritize those who joined and paid before and they agreed. We'll see how it works out.

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is the second photo space grey? It looks a bit diff in color compared to the previously shown greys.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: eyedrop on Wed, 22 August 2018, 11:33:04
It looks like there are new colors available compare to the original offering too.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: dohmain on Wed, 22 August 2018, 12:15:37
zFrontier is picking this up, I asked them to prioritize those who joined and paid before and they agreed. We'll see how it works out.

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I missed the raffle since I was on vacation, but I'm so happy that this is happening because now there's a really tiny chance at me picking one up... maybe?

So.... if there's anyone looking to pull out, HMU!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Wed, 22 August 2018, 15:49:41
zFrontier is picking this up, I asked them to prioritize those who joined and paid before and they agreed. We'll see how it works out.

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is the prioritization going by the sheet which is on page1 of this topic?
and when will it start over at zfrontier?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: kokugatsu on Wed, 22 August 2018, 15:55:39
Is EVE still involved with the production?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 22 August 2018, 16:35:39
Sick, so any clue as to when it wil go down? Also same expected price point i imagine?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 22 August 2018, 19:37:48
1. EVE will make the kits.

2. Priority is for those who paid, got refunded (I assume everybody got the refund) and wants to join again.

3. Same expected price point, probably this month.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: SBN on Wed, 22 August 2018, 19:39:30
1. EVE will make the kits.

2. Priority is for those who paid, got refunded (I assume everybody got the refund) and wants to join again.

3. Same expected price point, probably this month.

Awesome! Thanks for the effort, really looking forward to the board :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: eyedrop on Wed, 22 August 2018, 20:30:58
Is EVE going to be making both the KIRA80 and the KIRA S?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 22 August 2018, 22:18:24
Is EVE going to be making both the KIRA80 and the KIRA S?
Yes.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: foxmancore on Wed, 22 August 2018, 22:22:13
awesome news, can't wait to get my KIRA :D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 22 August 2018, 22:51:08
1. EVE will make the kits.

2. Priority is for those who paid, got refunded (I assume everybody got the refund) and wants to join again.

3. Same expected price point, probably this month.

Thankyou! ready whenever,
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 23 August 2018, 02:17:46
1. EVE will make the kits.
SWEET! I love his anodisation on the MOON TKL... best I've ever felt it's so smooth

I assume everybody got the refund
I assume, worked on my end at least...

also, will the Kira S also be 50pcs again? (meaning I could still hop on to that one too even though I didn't last time?)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 23 August 2018, 03:36:28
It probably is, I'll have to wait for confirmation but zF didn't really plan to do anything different from the cancelled buy. The only difference I can be sure of are the colors.
1. EVE will make the kits.
SWEET! I love his anodisation on the MOON TKL... best I've ever felt it's so smooth

I assume everybody got the refund
I assume, worked on my end at least...

also, will the Kira S also be 50pcs again? (meaning I could still hop on to that one too even though I didn't last time?)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 23 August 2018, 03:39:11
It probably is, I'll have to wait for confirmation but zF didn't really plan to do anything different from the cancelled buy. The only difference I can be sure of are the colors.
ok, thanks for the info :)

all the colours are in the pics you posted I assume? (will have to switch to that green then if dark gray isn't available anymore... or maybe the silver... not sure yet)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 23 August 2018, 04:28:09
Excited to see that it is coming back! New colors look great as well. Definitely in again :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Thu, 23 August 2018, 10:52:57
hell yeah!!!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 23 August 2018, 13:15:57
If that blue is offered thats going to be tempting but i really want red or purple i think. Lol
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 23 August 2018, 15:32:28
I wonder if there would be green like the prototype that thesiscamper had. that looked dope.
Its a color that suits the facet design well.

BTW, did the weight change to alum ? some of them look like alum, I could be mistaken
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Thu, 23 August 2018, 15:50:11
Will those of us that were selected as 51-65 be provided an invoice if others cancel? 
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 23 August 2018, 18:36:35
- I have no idea how this will be handled -
But I do recall beamingrobot  posting that there were about 10 unpaid invoices from the winners and some folks were bumped up the list. If there were 10 unpaid invoices originally, and if the GB runner is giving preference to the folks from the last attempt, then might be a good chance that 51-65 will at least have the option to get in.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 24 August 2018, 02:46:16
I can only promise giving priority to those who paid, and I wouldn't want to impose too much on zFrontier. I think it will be FCFS.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Fri, 24 August 2018, 03:53:33
I can only promise giving priority to those who paid, and I wouldn't want to impose too much on zFrontier. I think it will be FCFS.
How are they gonna take proof of that? by the eMail Address we used previously via shopify?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 24 August 2018, 03:57:38
I can only promise giving priority to those who paid, and I wouldn't want to impose too much on zFrontier. I think it will be FCFS.
How are they gonna take proof of that? by the eMail Address we used previously via shopify?

Through a list I will ask beamingrobot to provide, and share with zF. People in this list will probably be given a chance to join before everyone else.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Fri, 24 August 2018, 04:07:21
I can only promise giving priority to those who paid, and I wouldn't want to impose too much on zFrontier. I think it will be FCFS.
How are they gonna take proof of that? by the eMail Address we used previously via shopify?

Through a list I will ask beamingrobot to provide, and share with zF. People in this list will probably be given a chance to join before everyone else.
Ah, before as in before the rest of the GB is open to the public? (I'm just worrying too much that someone will say I'm Mr. Such and Such and steal the spot ;). I'm too paranoid I guess. Sry for the annoying questions  :-\ )
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 24 August 2018, 04:15:09
I can only promise giving priority to those who paid, and I wouldn't want to impose too much on zFrontier. I think it will be FCFS.
How are they gonna take proof of that? by the eMail Address we used previously via shopify?

Through a list I will ask beamingrobot to provide, and share with zF. People in this list will probably be given a chance to join before everyone else.
Ah, before as in before the rest of the GB is open to the public? (I'm just worrying too much that someone will say I'm Mr. Such and Such and steal the spot ;). I'm too paranoid I guess. Sry for the annoying questions  :-\ )

The list will include real names though, so I would think it's not as easy to just steal someone's identity.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Fri, 24 August 2018, 04:16:33
I can only promise giving priority to those who paid, and I wouldn't want to impose too much on zFrontier. I think it will be FCFS.
How are they gonna take proof of that? by the eMail Address we used previously via shopify?

Through a list I will ask beamingrobot to provide, and share with zF. People in this list will probably be given a chance to join before everyone else.
Ah, before as in before the rest of the GB is open to the public? (I'm just worrying too much that someone will say I'm Mr. Such and Such and steal the spot ;) . I'm too paranoid I guess. Sry for the annoying questions  :-\ )

The list will include real names though, so I would think it's not as easy to just steal someone's identity.
ah ok, that sounds good. Ok, I'll stop buggering you now ;P sry :D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Fri, 24 August 2018, 12:19:38
Thanks for the clarification. As #56 I really hope I get a chance to to get in on this either through invoice or a heads up before it is opened up to the public. :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 24 August 2018, 12:37:52
Thanks for the clarification. As #56 I really hope I get a chance to to get in on this either through invoice or a heads up before it is opened up to the public. :)

I understand, but it will be a whole different buy so I can't promise anything. I will have to discuss  it further with zF and since they are here to help I don't want to impose like I said. I am in no position to demand more, IMO.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Fri, 24 August 2018, 12:40:23
Thanks for the clarification. As #56 I really hope I get a chance to to get in on this either through invoice or a heads up before it is opened up to the public. :)

I understand, but it will be a whole different buy so I can't promise anything. I will have to discuss  it further with zF and since they are here to help I don't want to impose like I said. I am in no position to demand more, IMO.

No problem I completely understand.  I'll be patiently waiting in the meantime.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: JSaintS on Sat, 25 August 2018, 05:04:27
I did not see the buy the first time around, totally missed it, but I hope I can make it in this one! Thanks for not dropping the project altogether :D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Sat, 01 September 2018, 03:19:55
I've sent a message to those who will be given priority to join but 3 people's names from beamingrobot's list do not come up using the forum's autocomplete so I'm not sure who these guys are:

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Sat, 01 September 2018, 03:29:49
I've sent a message to those who will be given priority to join but 3 people's names from beamingrobot's list do not come up using the forum's autocomplete so I'm not sure who these guys are:

  • riocc
  • sparkle
  • azw898

Oh damn I'm literally next in line on the wait list.  :p
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Sat, 01 September 2018, 04:54:41
I've sent a message to those who will be given priority to join but 3 people's names from beamingrobot's list do not come up using the forum's autocomplete so I'm not sure who these guys are:

  • riocc
  • sparkle
  • azw898
Hi, he used my reddit name... riocc would be me :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jedi on Sat, 01 September 2018, 09:41:51
I've sent a message to those who will be given priority to join but 3 people's names from beamingrobot's list do not come up using the forum's autocomplete so I'm not sure who these guys are:

  • riocc
  • sparkle
  • azw898

If you have email address with the name, sparkle is me.

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Sat, 01 September 2018, 14:50:46
Thanks for the clarification. As #56 I really hope I get a chance to to get in on this either through invoice or a heads up before it is opened up to the public. :)

I understand, but it will be a whole different buy so I can't promise anything. I will have to discuss  it further with zF and since they are here to help I don't want to impose like I said. I am in no position to demand more, IMO.

Replied to your PM.  Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: redbanshee on Sun, 02 September 2018, 16:55:04
Is the zfrontier buy going to be limited availability like it was on here (50 spots) or will it be available to all?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 02 September 2018, 19:20:47
Is the zfrontier buy going to be limited availability like it was on here (50 spots) or will it be available to all?

It’s going to be limited afaik
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 02 September 2018, 21:23:16
Is the zfrontier buy going to be limited availability like it was on here (50 spots) or will it be available to all?

zFrontier and I agreed on 50 kits, the priority list won't make sense otherwise. They just stepped in to help it push through so they're keeping most of the buy the same.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Sun, 02 September 2018, 22:45:53
Is the zfrontier buy going to be limited availability like it was on here (50 spots) or will it be available to all?

zFrontier and I agreed on 50 kits, the priority list won't make sense otherwise. They just stepped in to help it push through so they're keeping most of the buy the same.

Any update on when it will start and how the winners will be notified first?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: slxdegrees on Sun, 02 September 2018, 22:54:15
Is the zfrontier buy going to be limited availability like it was on here (50 spots) or will it be available to all?

zFrontier and I agreed on 50 kits, the priority list won't make sense otherwise. They just stepped in to help it push through so they're keeping most of the buy the same.

Any update on when it will start and how the winners will be notified first?
Probably first refusal. Zfrontier will likely send them an email confirming if they would like to take part. Following which, they would likely release the remaining slots to the general public.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Hamel on Wed, 05 September 2018, 18:04:41
Any updates from zFrontier yet?
I'm on the list but I haven't heard anything from them yet.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 05 September 2018, 20:22:38
Any updates from zFrontier yet?
I'm on the list but I haven't heard anything from them yet.

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Same - I'm sure the email will be soon, though!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 06 September 2018, 01:50:59
Any updates from zFrontier yet?
I'm on the list but I haven't heard anything from them yet.

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According to correspondance I had with Alex from zFrontier he mentioned around mid September (with mails to previous participants going out before mid sept.)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 06 September 2018, 08:41:59
Any updates from zFrontier yet?
I'm on the list but I haven't heard anything from them yet.

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According to correspondance I had with Alex from zFrontier he mentioned around mid September (with mails to previous participants going out before mid sept.)

Good to know. Getting super excited for this.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 06 September 2018, 16:57:39
so maybe expect something next week? Just want to get this moving lol
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 06 September 2018, 19:35:23
 I haven't heard back from them, so we'll just have to wait.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 06 September 2018, 19:44:51
I know they've been extremely busy lately, so we'll see. I've been waiting for a message from them for about 10 days.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 11 September 2018, 04:44:57
zFrontier has indeed been very busy lately, but they should be making the link available soon, hopefully by the weekend. Sorry for the delays, and thank you for your patience.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Hamel on Wed, 12 September 2018, 04:11:50
zFrontier has indeed been very busy lately, but they should be making the link available soon, hopefully by the weekend. Sorry for the delays, and thank you for your patience.

Thanks for the update thesiscamper. Hope it launches in the weekend.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 16 September 2018, 15:45:54
I guess the GB won't be this weekend then?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Sun, 16 September 2018, 16:31:51
I guess the GB won't be this weekend then?
no rush, it'll be soon enough... :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 19 September 2018, 22:17:33
Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 20 September 2018, 01:04:30
Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.
this is totally fine mate, you did your part :) it's not like waiting is something new to us :D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 20 September 2018, 01:42:02
Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.

All good. I'll just patiently be waiting aha. Just means more time to make more money and not feel the hit to the wallet as hard.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Bubblegum on Fri, 21 September 2018, 06:09:32
Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.

Thanks for the update! I got a mail from zFrontier, for being on the priority list, saying it's coming soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Fri, 21 September 2018, 07:51:48
Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.

Thanks for the update! I got a mail from zFrontier, for being on the priority list, saying it's coming soon.
yap, I also like the news with the serial Nr for the priority list boards :)
I'm still wondering (/hoping) if it's now Eve doing the boards...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 21 September 2018, 07:56:11
Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.

Thanks for the update! I got a mail from zFrontier, for being on the priority list, saying it's coming soon.
yap, I also like the news with the serial Nr for the priority list boards :)
I'm still wondering (/hoping) if it's now Eve doing the boards...

It is EVE, and the boards have been made, so you might just be choosing from available colors.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Fri, 21 September 2018, 08:24:51
Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.

Thanks for the update! I got a mail from zFrontier, for being on the priority list, saying it's coming soon.
yap, I also like the news with the serial Nr for the priority list boards :)
I'm still wondering (/hoping) if it's now Eve doing the boards...

It is EVE, and the boards have been made, so you might just be choosing from available colors.
oh, sweet, that means it's gonna have a divine anodisation :)
oooh, quick pickings it's gonna be then ;)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 21 September 2018, 08:43:38
Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.

Thanks for the update! I got a mail from zFrontier, for being on the priority list, saying it's coming soon.
yap, I also like the news with the serial Nr for the priority list boards :)
I'm still wondering (/hoping) if it's now Eve doing the boards...

It is EVE, and the boards have been made, so you might just be choosing from available colors.
oh, sweet, that means it's gonna have a divine anodisation :)
oooh, quick pickings it's gonna be then ;)

Yeah, I'm really liking the sound of this. Hopefully it just means we'll be getting our boards that much faster!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 21 September 2018, 08:46:04
I do not like the sound of that, i could have waited all this time to not get what i want that disappoints me a lot. Guess i just have to hope i get the color i want or ill pass. If i wanted this board fast i wouldnt be joining a GB. speed dosnt make me happy. I mean i guess its Whatever i just feel like thats a slap in the face after all this waiting.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 21 September 2018, 09:33:18
I do not like the sound of that, i could have waited all this time to not get what i want that disappoints me a lot. Guess i just have to hope i get the color i want or ill pass. If i wanted this board fast i wouldnt be joining a GB. speed dosnt make me happy. I mean i guess its Whatever i just feel like thats a slap in the face after all this waiting.

I do agree that the uncertainty of getting a preferred color is not preferable, but at the very least, the QC is more or less done and you have a clearer idea of what the final product looks like.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 21 September 2018, 11:34:40
That effects my argument absolutely none. QC is part of the deal from the get go. you cant just say oo that slipped through cause we were doing the buy this way instead of that way its absolutely no different.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 21 September 2018, 11:58:43
That effects my argument absolutely none. QC is part of the deal from the get go. you cant just say oo that slipped through cause we were doing the buy this way instead of that way its absolutely no different.

I wasn't really trying to argue or anything, just trying to pick out a silver lining. Correct me if I'm wrong but so far, from what you've written, it seems like you would prefer the GB method and wait longer so you can guarantee the color of the board you get, or is there something else as well?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Fri, 21 September 2018, 13:59:44
are there pictures of the finished product?  it'll help narrow down what color to choose from when the link is sent out by zfrontier.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 21 September 2018, 14:58:25
are there pictures of the finished product?  it'll help narrow down what color to choose from when the link is sent out by zfrontier.

There's only pics on thesis instagram
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Fri, 21 September 2018, 15:32:00
are there pictures of the finished product?  it'll help narrow down what color to choose from when the link is sent out by zfrontier.

There's only pics on thesis instagram

Thanks. I saw those so I guess we wait for the link now.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 21 September 2018, 17:31:40
suppose i just wish everyone had paid the first time and we'd be half way done already.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: mathleejj on Fri, 21 September 2018, 19:17:37
Maybe he meant that the boards have been made and we can choose colors as the boards are just before the anodization state?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 21 September 2018, 20:22:24
Maybe he meant that the boards have been made and we can choose colors as the boards are just before the anodization state?

That would actually be ideal for me.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 22 September 2018, 00:59:02
 Thatd be dope i hope its that way, totally forgot is the numpad still coming with the boards like a set as original or nah?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Wed, 26 September 2018, 01:26:39
sooo, apparently it's on the CN version of the shop already: http://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790 ??
I hope we get our mails soon.

Oh, CN edition gets a limited edition black copper weight option... that's some nice prioritized treatment for the original GB participants

Not meaning to be upset, I just hope we still get those options too and the serialisation
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: kokugatsu on Wed, 26 September 2018, 01:45:24
sooo, apparently it's on the CN version of the shop already: http://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790 ??
I hope we get our mails soon
According to their site, the GB will be open in 5 hours. Hope they didn't forget about us...

Also, there isn't an option to get both extra PCBs and plates atm, seems to be either or.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Wed, 26 September 2018, 02:17:09
sooo, apparently it's on the CN version of the shop already: http://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790 (http://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790) ??
I hope we get our mails soon
According to their site, the GB will be open in 5 hours. Hope they didn't forget about us...
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Also, there isn't an option to get both extra PCBs and plates atm, seems to be either or.


ah, that makes sense... I got a mail from Alex that he's currently preparing the site for the en.zfrontier website too. I guess they'll be up the same time then.
Really hope we get a chance for that black weight too
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 26 September 2018, 02:23:54
sooo, apparently it's on the CN version of the shop already: http://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790 (http://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790) ??
I hope we get our mails soon
According to their site, the GB will be open in 5 hours. Hope they didn't forget about us...
Show Image
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Also, there isn't an option to get both extra PCBs and plates atm, seems to be either or.


ah, that makes sense... I got a mail from Alex that he's currently preparing the site for the en.zfrontier website too. I guess they'll be up the same time then.
Really hope we get a chance for that black weight too

That's awesome news, I'm hoping for that black weight as well, looks super nice. Did he mention any time frames or just that he is working on the site?
Title: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: kokugatsu on Wed, 26 September 2018, 02:27:18
Seems like there isn't a WK option either, a bit disappointed.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: mathleejj on Wed, 26 September 2018, 02:29:50
It seems like the boards for chinese GB has finished production (4 colors, wkl fixed) / pcb and plate needs production

Alex said that for international GB (the one on en.zfrontier) we will get to choose either wk/wkl layouts and also more colors are offered. (Lead time is expected to be a month and two months max.)

Didn't ask about the back weight.. so i have no infos on that
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 26 September 2018, 02:36:03
It seems like the boards for chinese GB has finished production (4 colors, wkl fixed) / pcb and plate needs production

Alex said that for international GB (the one on en.zfrontier) we will get to choose either wk/wkl layouts and also more colors are offered. (Lead time is expected to be a month and two months max.)

Didn't ask about the back weight.. so i have no infos on that

Lead time is short at least.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Wed, 26 September 2018, 02:47:25
Didn't ask about the back weight.. so i have no infos on that

I asked about the black weight, but no answer on that yet. Maybe he's checking that with Eve.

EDIT: Yeah, he said he'll talk to EVE about it :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: elmo on Wed, 26 September 2018, 15:22:33
Kind of a newbie here (never participated in a group buy and hey: first post here).
Will the GB on zFrontier be open to the public or limited to those who where on the list here?

Thought about combining the Kira with the new SA Symbiosis 2.0 caps.
Would be my first custom keyboard  :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 26 September 2018, 17:15:42
was just about to ask if i missed the mail or something. well hope it comes through soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 27 September 2018, 04:00:53
sooo, Kira80 and Kira-S extras are available, I hope we get our mail for the board soon too. (you can see the available colours on the extras page though)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 27 September 2018, 05:10:40
The priority buy is now active. Got the mail and ordered the board :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Hamel on Thu, 27 September 2018, 05:15:01
It seems like color option of "Space Gray" is gone in the GB.  :-[

Sent Alex from zFrontier about how dark the "Deep Black" would be, but does anyone have any information regarding this color?


EDIT: Got a reply from Alex, for anyone who's wondering what Deep Black would be it would be "black black" as seen in this picture.

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Title: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: kokugatsu on Thu, 27 September 2018, 05:28:52
Edit: nvm, missed the colours at the bottom of the page.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 27 September 2018, 05:49:49
are we still geting kira s or no i dont even see any mention lol
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 27 September 2018, 05:51:51
are we still geting kira s or no i dont even see any mention lol

Kira-S will follow shortly according to him

Ordered my Dark Blue kira80 now, PC plate, and lucky number for SN
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 27 September 2018, 05:54:47
ah i see. super torn between the pearl blue and lavender almost think the lavender wont match anything. well went pearl blue. will probably buy another in the normal gb in red.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 27 September 2018, 06:12:28
ah i see. super torn between the pearl blue and lavender almost think the lavender wont match anything. well went pearl blue. will probably buy another in the normal gb in red.


pearl blue will sure match godspeed very nicely. Lavender maybe with Violet Tendencies?
I think I'll pair the poseidon blue I went for with either dark solarized or a vintage, beige gmk set (maybe Nautilus or green screen, but I don't think those'll be the best matches)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: schlep on Thu, 27 September 2018, 07:19:09
Submitted my order for Poseidon Blue
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Hamel on Thu, 27 September 2018, 07:25:58
ah i see. super torn between the pearl blue and lavender almost think the lavender wont match anything. well went pearl blue. will probably buy another in the normal gb in red.


pearl blue will sure match godspeed very nicely. Lavender maybe with Violet Tendencies?
I think I'll pair the poseidon blue I went for with either dark solarized or a vintage, beige gmk set (maybe Nautilus or green screen, but I don't think those'll be the best matches)

Poseidon Blue looks super sick, but I also find it hard to find a matching keysets. Doesn't seem to versatile. (which making me very hard to decide)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 27 September 2018, 07:29:12
Are there any photo differences between pearl blue and Poseidon blue? Which is the blue one pictured on the site?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: mathleejj on Thu, 27 September 2018, 07:30:27
same here... only if I had Godspeed.. I wouldn't hesitate choosing poseidon blue  :D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 27 September 2018, 08:48:24
So it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 27 September 2018, 09:56:12
Are there any photo differences between pearl blue and Poseidon blue? Which is the blue one pictured on the site?
Pearl blue is the light blue. Poseidon the very dark (almost dark gray) blue.
Poseidon will match any beige or gray set for sure.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: SBN on Thu, 27 September 2018, 10:30:22
Didn't ask about the back weight.. so i have no infos on that

I asked about the black weight, but no answer on that yet. Maybe he's checking that with Eve.

EDIT: Yeah, he said he'll talk to EVE about it :)

If you hear any further info, please tell us! I’d like a black weight but might choose another case color if black weight is not possible.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jedi on Thu, 27 September 2018, 10:37:58
This is all just very strange.  The Kira is only available on the China ZFrontier website and not on the En ZFrontier website https://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790
The accessories are on the English ZFrontier website https://en.zfrontier.com/products/kira-ac

Should anyone on the original groupbuy list be expecting a link to buy from the English ZFrontier site (anything more than just the accessory?)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 27 September 2018, 10:40:28
So it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?

I was able to pick brass plate as an extra option. Where you get extra PCB and such.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 27 September 2018, 10:57:26
So it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?

I was able to pick brass plate as an extra option. Where you get extra PCB and such.

I do see that now. Thanks. Are there any photos of what poseidon looks like? Trying to decide between that and the grey.

Edit: Is this poseidon?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 27 September 2018, 11:03:35
This is all just very strange.  The Kira is only available on the China ZFrontier website and not on the En ZFrontier website https://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790
The accessories are on the English ZFrontier website https://en.zfrontier.com/products/kira-ac

Should anyone on the original groupbuy list be expecting a link to buy from the English ZFrontier site (anything more than just the accessory?)

Only that paid get priority and have a special link to the board. According to my email, after 24 hours the buy will open up to the public
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: elmo on Thu, 27 September 2018, 11:05:10
This is all just very strange.  The Kira is only available on the China ZFrontier website and not on the En ZFrontier website https://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790
The accessories are on the English ZFrontier website https://en.zfrontier.com/products/kira-ac

Should anyone on the original groupbuy list be expecting a link to buy from the English ZFrontier site (anything more than just the accessory?)

Only that paid get priority and have a special link to the board. According to my email, after 24 hours the buy will open up to the public

The chinese page said it is limited to 66 pieces (according to google translator :P )
Will the international GB have the same limit or is it higher?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 27 September 2018, 11:21:30
This is all just very strange.  The Kira is only available on the China ZFrontier website and not on the En ZFrontier website https://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790
The accessories are on the English ZFrontier website https://en.zfrontier.com/products/kira-ac

Should anyone on the original groupbuy list be expecting a link to buy from the English ZFrontier site (anything more than just the accessory?)

Only that paid get priority and have a special link to the board. According to my email, after 24 hours the buy will open up to the public

The chinese page said it is limited to 66 pieces (according to google translator :P )
Will the international GB have the same limit or is it higher?

Didn't specify. But at least 50 because they were 50 spots in the original gb
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Thu, 27 September 2018, 14:32:06
So it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?

I was able to pick brass plate as an extra option. Where you get extra PCB and such.

I do see that now. Thanks. Are there any photos of what poseidon looks like? Trying to decide between that and the grey.

Edit: Is this poseidon?

I'd like to know this as well? Are there other pics?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: elDuderino on Thu, 27 September 2018, 14:50:46
So it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?

I was able to pick brass plate as an extra option. Where you get extra PCB and such.

I do see that now. Thanks. Are there any photos of what poseidon looks like? Trying to decide between that and the grey.

Edit: Is this poseidon?

I'd like to know this as well? Are there other pics?

+1 on that. The poseidon blue looks a bit more greenish-blue on the priority GB page (which I think I'd prefer) but if it's more of a navy blue as posted above I think I'll go with the black.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Thu, 27 September 2018, 14:55:28
So it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?

I was able to pick brass plate as an extra option. Where you get extra PCB and such.

I do see that now. Thanks. Are there any photos of what poseidon looks like? Trying to decide between that and the grey.

Edit: Is this poseidon?

I'd like to know this as well? Are there other pics?

+1 on that. The poseidon blue looks a bit more greenish-blue on the priority GB page (which I think I'd prefer) but if it's more of a navy blue as posted above I think I'll go with the black.

I was thinking the same but I just put in an order for Poseidon.  Hopefully thesiscamper can clarify if its blue or blue/green.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 27 September 2018, 16:36:53
So it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?

I was able to pick brass plate as an extra option. Where you get extra PCB and such.

I do see that now. Thanks. Are there any photos of what poseidon looks like? Trying to decide between that and the grey.

Edit: Is this poseidon?
yeah, that's poseidon... these pics are a bit darker lighting compared to the GB Page product pics so it looks more darker blue. with brighter light it looks like it has a very slight greenish hue to it too
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 27 September 2018, 16:46:06
So it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?

I was able to pick brass plate as an extra option. Where you get extra PCB and such.

I do see that now. Thanks. Are there any photos of what poseidon looks like? Trying to decide between that and the grey.

Edit: Is this poseidon?
yeah, that's poseidon... these pics are a bit darker lighting compared to the GB Page product pics so it looks more darker blue. with brighter light it looks like it has a very slight greenish hue to it too

I see, they look so different but I guess lighting will do that? I think I'll just stick to grey as I prefer a navy without a green tint to it.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 27 September 2018, 16:51:20
That's a one off
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 27 September 2018, 16:55:41
That's a one off
Ah I see, looked similar enough to assume it's maybe lighting difference


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Hamel on Thu, 27 September 2018, 17:00:43
That's a one off
Ah I see, looked similar enough to assume it's maybe lighting difference


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So that "dark navy" board is NOT poseidon blue & NOT offered in current buy?

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 27 September 2018, 17:03:51
That's a one off
Ah I see, looked similar enough to assume it's maybe lighting difference


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So that "dark navy" board is NOT poseidon blue & NOT offered in current buy?

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AFAIK, that is correct
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 27 September 2018, 17:04:38
That's a one off
Ah I see, looked similar enough to assume it's maybe lighting difference


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So that "dark navy" board is NOT poseidon blue & NOT offered in current buy?

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yes because that was prior to eves involvment.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 27 September 2018, 17:10:18
Went with the black case, hopefully the lead time isn't too much longer. Was debating putting laser on the poseidon blue, but that might be a stretch. Super stoked! :p :p
Title: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: SBN on Thu, 27 September 2018, 17:10:58
That's a one off
Ah I see, looked similar enough to assume it's maybe lighting difference


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So that "dark navy" board is NOT poseidon blue & NOT offered in current buy?

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yes because that was prior to eves involvment.

Mhm? Im actually really confused about Poseidon color... If it’s not the “dark navy” in the pictures (for example the picture of the two boards together) then what color is it? In the color sample squares it looks exactly like that...

Also what color is the plate of the red board? Silver isn’t an option?

Would be good to have confirmation, which pictures are of the EVE boards!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Hamel on Thu, 27 September 2018, 17:14:59
Went with the black case, hopefully the lead time isn't too much longer. Was debating putting laser on the poseidon blue, but that might be a stretch. Super stoked!
What plate color did you choose? I'm thingking of matching gmk laser too.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 27 September 2018, 17:17:06
Went with the black case, hopefully the lead time isn't too much longer. Was debating putting laser on the poseidon blue, but that might be a stretch. Super stoked!
What plate color did you choose? I'm thingking of matching gmk laser too.

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I chose pearl blue, but I won't be using the aluminum plate. I got an extra brass plate and I think I'm gonna have another special kind of plate for this board :thinking:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Thu, 27 September 2018, 17:27:05
That's a one off
Ah I see, looked similar enough to assume it's maybe lighting difference


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So that "dark navy" board is NOT poseidon blue & NOT offered in current buy?

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yes because that was prior to eves involvment.

Mhm? Im actually really confused about Poseidon color... If it’s not the “dark navy” in the pictures (for example the picture of the two boards together) then what color is it? In the color sample squares it looks exactly like that...

Also what color is the plate of the red board? Silver isn’t an option?

Would be good to have confirmation, which pictures are of the EVE boards!

Yeah agreed.  I would prefer the greenish tint but now I'm even more confused  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 27 September 2018, 17:44:03
I got a Red ! It'll hopefully go along with light sets with red accents. Thinking /dev/tty , 9009 and I'll be waiting for Jamon.
Wanted to get the Poseidon blue as well - but very confused about the color. I would have liked the  "navy" blue, but that prototype was before EVE.
I also would have loved to see a green similar to the Kira60 : https://www.instagram.com/p/BfaH1F2gNmA/

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Thu, 27 September 2018, 17:59:00
Where do you choose weight color/material?  I see in the description that it comes with the electroplated brass weight, so is it only the brass color?  I was hoping to get this pairing:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1674/0405/files/1-14_grande.jpg?v=1537531311)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 27 September 2018, 18:32:33
I chose pearl blue, but I won't be using the aluminum plate. I got an extra brass plate and I think I'm gonna have another special kind of plate for this board :thinking:

Were you already able to get the extra plate or PCB ? The parts seem not yet live - or am i missing something ?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 27 September 2018, 18:34:45
Seeing as this was not done by Zfrontier, I was hoping that we would get free shipping, but alas.
The shipping info says that a shipping invoice will be sent separately... but anyway, I'm so happy that this is finally happening.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 27 September 2018, 18:36:20
I chose pearl blue, but I won't be using the aluminum plate. I got an extra brass plate and I think I'm gonna have another special kind of plate for this board :thinking:

Were you already able to get the extra plate or PCB ? The parts seem not yet live - or am i missing something ?

The link for extra plates and pcb is on the gb page, you just have you scroll down a bit
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 27 September 2018, 19:54:31
Sorry I can't confirm or describe colors relative to color names, I don't have color samples. I have a blue one at home but I'm not sure which blue that is.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Hamel on Thu, 27 September 2018, 19:56:25
Sorry I can't confirm or describe colors relative to color names, I don't have color samples. I have a blue one at home but I'm not sure which blue that is.
Thesiscamper, can you kindly your Kira80 despite the color just for the reference? :)

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 27 September 2018, 21:39:00
I think I will just be safe and go with grey. Hopefully I won't regret it.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 27 September 2018, 22:45:29
I think I will just be safe and go with grey. Hopefully I won't regret it.
grey is a good safe bet, that goes with a ton of caps.
I think its also really shows the facets very well.

The only thing that turned me away from it was that I thought that the seam between the top and bottom was a little too apparent due to the light color. I could just be imagining it as well !
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 28 September 2018, 00:03:58
I think I will just be safe and go with grey. Hopefully I won't regret it.
grey is a good safe bet, that goes with a ton of caps.
I think its also really shows the facets very well.

The only thing that turned me away from it was that I thought that the seam between the top and bottom was a little too apparent due to the light color. I could just be imagining it as well !

I'm just hoping the grey is similar to the MacBook grey.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Fri, 28 September 2018, 00:12:07
I think I will just be safe and go with grey. Hopefully I won't regret it.
grey is a good safe bet, that goes with a ton of caps.
I think its also really shows the facets very well.

The only thing that turned me away from it was that I thought that the seam between the top and bottom was a little too apparent due to the light color. I could just be imagining it as well !

I'm just hoping the grey is similar to the MacBook grey.
You mean the dark, space grey of apple ? I could be wrong, but the grey looks very light , almost silver. The Poseidon blue however looks more like the apple space grey... at least that silver looking color is what I thought the grey was...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 28 September 2018, 02:30:21
I think I will just be safe and go with grey. Hopefully I won't regret it.
grey is a good safe bet, that goes with a ton of caps.
I think its also really shows the facets very well.

The only thing that turned me away from it was that I thought that the seam between the top and bottom was a little too apparent due to the light color. I could just be imagining it as well !

I'm just hoping the grey is similar to the MacBook grey.
You mean the dark, space grey of apple ? I could be wrong, but the grey looks very light , almost silver. The Poseidon blue however looks more like the apple space grey... at least that silver looking color is what I thought the grey was...

No I don't think that silver is the grey that is being offered. In fact, I don't think silver is even an option in this buy. At any all this confusion just kind of goes to show that they should maybe have clarified which colors are which a bit better.

Edit: Actually, this has kind of got me thinking...that silver color might actually be the grey being offered. I really hope they can clarify some of this.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Fri, 28 September 2018, 02:47:52
I think I will just be safe and go with grey. Hopefully I won't regret it.
grey is a good safe bet, that goes with a ton of caps.
I think its also really shows the facets very well.

The only thing that turned me away from it was that I thought that the seam between the top and bottom was a little too apparent due to the light color. I could just be imagining it as well !

I'm just hoping the grey is similar to the MacBook grey.
You mean the dark, space grey of apple ? I could be wrong, but the grey looks very light , almost silver. The Poseidon blue however looks more like the apple space grey... at least that silver looking color is what I thought the grey was...

No I don't think that silver is the grey that is being offered. In fact, I don't think silver is even an option in this buy. At any all this confusion just kind of goes to show that they should maybe have clarified which colors are which a bit better.

Edit: Actually, this has kind of got me thinking...that silver color might actually be the grey being offered. I really hope they can clarify some of this.

I was going by the order in which the colors were listed and the swatch below it.
Totally agreed, they should clarify the colors and perhaps post some more pics from the Chinese buy.  These pic actually look like their white balance is off and somehow overexposed ... something a bit off...

Then there’s the thing about the weight color. Pics show silver and gold weights, but no indication as to a choice....
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Hamel on Fri, 28 September 2018, 02:54:02
I think I will just be safe and go with grey. Hopefully I won't regret it.
grey is a good safe bet, that goes with a ton of caps.
I think its also really shows the facets very well.

The only thing that turned me away from it was that I thought that the seam between the top and bottom was a little too apparent due to the light color. I could just be imagining it as well !

I'm just hoping the grey is similar to the MacBook grey.
You mean the dark, space grey of apple ? I could be wrong, but the grey looks very light , almost silver. The Poseidon blue however looks more like the apple space grey... at least that silver looking color is what I thought the grey was...

No I don't think that silver is the grey that is being offered. In fact, I don't think silver is even an option in this buy. At any all this confusion just kind of goes to show that they should maybe have clarified which colors are which a bit better.

Edit: Actually, this has kind of got me thinking...that silver color might actually be the grey being offered. I really hope they can clarify some of this.

Just sent email to Alex@zFrontier if he can clarify the colors - knowing that colors except black and violet are near finish - by sending us some sample photographs, if possible.

Hope I can hear something back from him!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 28 September 2018, 12:51:22
So I got a reply from Alex this morning with more info on poseidon. Hopefully I'm not bombing this thread with too many photos. It also appears that the moon grey actually is more of a silver color, as noted in one of the photos where it shows up with the poseidon in the background.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Fri, 28 September 2018, 13:39:37
Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.

also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 28 September 2018, 13:49:30
So I got a reply from Alex this morning with more info on poseidon. Hopefully I'm not bombing this thread with too many photos. It also appears that the moon grey actually is more of a silver color, as noted in one of the photos where it shows up with the poseidon in the background.

Hnnng, starting to second guess myself, this blue is so nice
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Fri, 28 September 2018, 13:57:09
I think I'll keep my order as Poseidon blue.  I really like the look of it!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Bubblegum on Fri, 28 September 2018, 14:50:11
Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.

also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.

I think it looks like there's a touch of green in there. Keeping my Poseidon Blue order, since it looks more unusual than the other colors. Not sure what keyset to pair it with. Was thinking Troubled Minds at first, but we'll see!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 28 September 2018, 15:01:16
Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.

also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.

Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.

also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.

It's definitely not just you. It looks super grey with just a hint of green in some of the photos. As for that red, I don't think that's a Kira, the bezels are too thick and the corner is rounded.
At any rate, in my haste, I put in an order for moon "grey", thinking it was closer to a macbook grey. I wonder if I can still change...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Fri, 28 September 2018, 16:13:12
Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.

also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.

I think it looks like there's a touch of green in there. Keeping my Poseidon Blue order, since it looks more unusual than the other colors. Not sure what keyset to pair it with. Was thinking Troubled Minds at first, but we'll see!
would Nautilus Nightmares work ? Or Modern Dolch ?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Fri, 28 September 2018, 16:15:11
Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.

also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.

I think it looks like there's a touch of green in there. Keeping my Poseidon Blue order, since it looks more unusual than the other colors. Not sure what keyset to pair it with. Was thinking Troubled Minds at first, but we'll see!
would Nautilus Nightmares work ? Or Modern Dolch ?
Modern Dolch if it doesn't have a green tint, normal Dolch if it does


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Fri, 28 September 2018, 16:19:15
As for that red, I don't think that's a Kira, the bezels are too thick and the corner is rounded.
Aha ! good catch ! I wish Zfrontier would update the product shots with less "touched up" versions. Something from a phone under natural light would be best.

At any rate, in my haste, I put in an order for moon "grey", thinking it was closer to a macbook grey. I wonder if I can still change...
I think you should be able to.
Have you emailed Alex again ? Do you know him or did you just reply to the priority buy link ?
If you do know him, could you please ask for a couple of shots of the red ? ;D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 28 September 2018, 16:53:54
As for that red, I don't think that's a Kira, the bezels are too thick and the corner is rounded.
Aha ! good catch ! I wish Zfrontier would update the product shots with less "touched up" versions. Something from a phone under natural light would be best.

At any rate, in my haste, I put in an order for moon "grey", thinking it was closer to a macbook grey. I wonder if I can still change...
I think you should be able to.
Have you emailed Alex again ? Do you know him or did you just reply to the priority buy link ?
If you do know him, could you please ask for a couple of shots of the red ? ;D

I don't know him. I just replied to the priority email haha. I was really only interested in how the poseidon turned out so I only asked about that one. 
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Fri, 28 September 2018, 18:45:46
I just replied to the email as well asking for a few shots of the red.

Thanks !
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Fri, 28 September 2018, 19:27:21
Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.

also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.

I think it looks like there's a touch of green in there. Keeping my Poseidon Blue order, since it looks more unusual than the other colors. Not sure what keyset to pair it with. Was thinking Troubled Minds at first, but we'll see!
GMK Waves (still in IC) would go great with it!

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: kokugatsu on Sat, 29 September 2018, 00:11:12
Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.

also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.

Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.

also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.

It's definitely not just you. It looks super grey with just a hint of green in some of the photos. As for that red, I don't think that's a Kira, the bezels are too thick and the corner is rounded.
At any rate, in my haste, I put in an order for moon "grey", thinking it was closer to a macbook grey. I wonder if I can still change...

Same, having a lot of second thoughts right now. The "grey" seems a bit too light for my liking.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Hamel on Sat, 29 September 2018, 01:37:29
Since other members already shared photos from Alex,

I'll post one that seems to be omitted - Pearl Blue sample.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: mathleejj on Sat, 29 September 2018, 02:10:43
hmm... That Pearl Blue seems little different from the photos on the product page.. :(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: elmo on Sat, 29 September 2018, 06:45:29
Any suggestions on which color would fit the SA Space Cadet / Symbiosis 2.0 keycaps well?
I think the blue is a bit too light to match that set?  :-X
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Hamel on Sat, 29 September 2018, 08:12:24
Any suggestions on which color would fit the SA Space Cadet / Symbiosis 2.0 keycaps well?
I think the blue is a bit too light to match that set?  :-X

IMO, if there were "Dark/Space Grey" available it would be the best match. However, I believe black could serve as an fair alternative.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: elmo on Sat, 29 September 2018, 08:14:03
Any suggestions on which color would fit the SA Space Cadet / Symbiosis 2.0 keycaps well?
I think the blue is a bit too light to match that set?  :-X

IMO, if there were "Dark/Space Grey" available it would be the best match. However, I believe black could serve as an fair alternative.

(Attachment Link)

So there is a black variant available?
Sorry for the dumb questions but I can currently only see the colors on the chinese page and those that where posted here. :D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Sat, 29 September 2018, 08:35:31
Yes
Any suggestions on which color would fit the SA Space Cadet / Symbiosis 2.0 keycaps well?
I think the blue is a bit too light to match that set?  :-X

IMO, if there were "Dark/Space Grey" available it would be the best match. However, I believe black could serve as an fair alternative.

(Attachment Link)

So there is a black variant available?
Sorry for the dumb questions but I can currently only see the colors on the chinese page and those that where posted here. :D

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Sat, 29 September 2018, 11:46:32
Since other members already shared photos from Alex,

I'll post one that seems to be omitted - Pearl Blue sample.

(Attachment Link)

Yoooo this looks WAY different in product page...  if I wanted to change colors how would I go about doing that?  Just email Alex?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Hamel on Sat, 29 September 2018, 11:48:57
Since other members already shared photos from Alex,

I'll post one that seems to be omitted - Pearl Blue sample.

(Attachment Link)

Yoooo this looks WAY different in product page...  if I wanted to change colors how would I go about doing that?  Just email Alex?
i don't know if you can, but I would contact Alex; he was very promt and helpful with  inquiries.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sat, 29 September 2018, 12:09:31
60 units fcfs now live on zf.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: gutsack on Sat, 29 September 2018, 12:10:59
Hit that buy button the moment they were available. Deep black, WK. EXCITED!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sat, 29 September 2018, 12:13:23
Went for red, didn't wait around for the extra parts section to go live, was there any word on the PCB colour?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sat, 29 September 2018, 12:15:03
Alex has been awesome in responding to emails about colors -
here is the red :
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Sat, 29 September 2018, 12:16:51
Alex has been awesome in responding to emails about colors -
here is the red :
Hmm damn that red looks good. You think it will pair well worth red samurai?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sat, 29 September 2018, 12:22:03
Alex has been awesome in responding to emails about colors -
here is the red :
Hmm damn that red looks good. You think it will pair well worth red samurai?
I would imagine GMK burgundy would be a better match as red samurai is really dark.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: elmo on Sat, 29 September 2018, 12:22:50
And I'm in!
Also ordered the SA Symbiosis pack on Kono.
Way too hyped right now :D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Sat, 29 September 2018, 12:24:04
Has anyone emailed Alex to ask about the weight colors?

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sat, 29 September 2018, 12:25:26
Yeah - Red Samurai should look good on it. I'm personally thinking either GMK Yuri or something light with red accents like Metaverse... have a lot of time to decide.
I dont have a red board and have long wanted one. The Kira's side facets look good in lighter/brighter colors IMO. I also get the appeal of the deep stealthy black with those sharp lines.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 29 September 2018, 12:35:18
just sent alex a message about weight colors well see what he says
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sat, 29 September 2018, 13:08:24
And I'm in!
Also ordered the SA Symbiosis pack on Kono.
Way too hyped right now :D

Congrats on your board and keyset! :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sythie on Sun, 30 September 2018, 00:02:54
So I got a reply from Alex this morning with more info on poseidon. Hopefully I'm not bombing this thread with too many photos. It also appears that the moon grey actually is more of a silver color, as noted in one of the photos where it shows up with the poseidon in the background.
The poseidon blue looks very green to me.

How come the grey color used for the prototype in OP wasn't made available?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sun, 30 September 2018, 00:17:14
So I got a reply from Alex this morning with more info on poseidon. Hopefully I'm not bombing this thread with too many photos. It also appears that the moon grey actually is more of a silver color, as noted in one of the photos where it shows up with the poseidon in the background.
The poseidon blue looks very green to me.

How come the grey color used for the prototype in OP wasn't made available?
The original GB was cancelled, and a new vendor and manufacturer took over. The new team is offering new colors. The original prototype grey was not offered in the first attempt of this GB either.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: vonswoopington on Sun, 30 September 2018, 00:33:23
any update on the matching numpad?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 30 September 2018, 00:35:03
any update on the matching numpad?

im curious as well, all i have gotten when i asked is its coming later.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: distracteddev on Sun, 30 September 2018, 00:58:01
I'm so confused. Is there  going to be a new GB post when this is officially revived? Is it already revived and I should be throwing my money at someone?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sythie on Sun, 30 September 2018, 01:02:30
So I got a reply from Alex this morning with more info on poseidon. Hopefully I'm not bombing this thread with too many photos. It also appears that the moon grey actually is more of a silver color, as noted in one of the photos where it shows up with the poseidon in the background.
The poseidon blue looks very green to me.

How come the grey color used for the prototype in OP wasn't made available?
The original GB was cancelled, and a new vendor and manufacturer took over. The new team is offering new colors. The original prototype grey was not offered in the first attempt of this GB either.
Thank you for clarifying.


I'm so confused. Is there  going to be a new GB post when this is officially revived? Is it already revived and I should be throwing my money at someone?
Considering the limited amount I wouldn't wait for too long.


Does anyone know how many degrees this board is angled by the way?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sun, 30 September 2018, 01:32:11
I'm so confused. Is there  going to be a new GB post when this is officially revived? Is it already revived and I should be throwing my money at someone?

Yes its officially revived, and no there won't be another GB post (I'm not involved with the GB, but I don't think there's going to another GB post).
Head over to en.zfrontier.com to snag one.
The GB was a raffle the first time around with 50 slots (before getting cancelled) and the raffle winners (including myself) got a chance to take part in a priority buy a couple days ago. Everyone who who were raffle winners have gotten a chance to snag one at this point. Zfrontier opened the GB to the general public at 10AM today pacific time.
There are 60 slots total, FCFS.


Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sun, 30 September 2018, 01:35:09

Does anyone know how many degrees this board is angled by the way?

8 degrees.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: elmo on Sun, 30 September 2018, 03:14:36
I just realized that the english GB page doesn't mention the backlighting option on the PCB.
Will there be one (LED throughholes)?
On the chinese page it said that it will have them.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: slxdegrees on Sun, 30 September 2018, 03:15:34
I just realized that the english GB page doesn't mention the backlighting option on the PCB.
Will there be one (LED throughholes)?
On the chinese page it said that it will have them.
The english gb page doesn't state a lot of things. But hey, you get 2 more colors to choose from
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: distracteddev on Sun, 30 September 2018, 04:33:05
Just got in but panicked and picked a red case with a purple plate. Who should I be reaching out to see if I can change my colors? Also I tried to pick up a brass plate but I could pick WKL. I guess I should have just bought one and they would have matched it to my case
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Nigolski on Sun, 30 September 2018, 07:47:05
any pictures of the lavender violet?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jedi on Sun, 30 September 2018, 09:27:52
Will this Kira support a TX87 PCB?
Also, any pictures of the plate mounts?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Allo on Sun, 30 September 2018, 11:38:58
Anyone know the thickness of the PC plate?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 30 September 2018, 12:36:31
Anyone know the thickness of the PC plate?

Pretty sure it's the standard 1.5
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 30 September 2018, 14:08:55
PC/Brass plates and extra pcbs link is down? GB expires before the Chinese holiday is over.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Max_P0 on Sun, 30 September 2018, 15:49:19
I joined the GB... 400 US is really steep (for me)

WK w/ Deep Black Plate.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: nug on Sun, 30 September 2018, 16:25:15
PC/Brass plates and extra pcbs link is down? GB expires before the Chinese holiday is over.
Make sure you select "I am not buying Alu parts" in the Alu color options. When you select that, the plates and PCB will be in stock.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 30 September 2018, 21:01:20
Will this Kira support a TX87 PCB?
Also, any pictures of the plate mounts?

Yes it should fit a Leeku TKL PCB
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 01 October 2018, 00:04:27
Will this Kira support a TX87 PCB?
Also, any pictures of the plate mounts?
It should - I asked about PCB compatibility and thesiscamper responded that this is based on the TX87-L3. He did mention that the space bar stabs are flipped.
Scroll up the thread and you should see the discussion.
I also have ordered one of hineybush's TKL PCBs - it should be fitting as well, but we'll see.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 01 October 2018, 00:06:19
I joined the GB... 400 US is really steep (for me)

WK w/ Deep Black Plate.
Welcome to the world of custom keybaord .. :) My first -- really expensive -- buy as well...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 01 October 2018, 00:08:22
Just got in but panicked and picked a red case with a purple plate. Who should I be reaching out to see if I can change my colors? Also I tried to pick up a brass plate but I could pick WKL. I guess I should have just bought one and they would have matched it to my case

I'm in the same boat as you my friend. I sent an email to Alex from Zfrontier, but no response so far. I hope we get to tweak the colors once the GB is concluded.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Xyzac on Mon, 01 October 2018, 11:35:47
Not to throw shade or anything, why are some people recommending Jane v2 over Kira? genuine curious question.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Mon, 01 October 2018, 11:40:18
Not to throw shade or anything, why are some people recommending Jane v2 over Kira? genuine curious question.
General hype for tgr shill... Just keep in mind is gonna be 650$ minimum with shipping and pp fees, vs the 450 of kira

Granted, i might join jane v2 too, but kira is a nicer design imo


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 01 October 2018, 15:22:14
Good luck even getting a jane. And the price will be nearly double. This case is asteticly better anyways.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 01 October 2018, 15:26:25
Not to throw shade or anything, why are some people recommending Jane v2 over Kira? genuine curious question.
General hype for tgr shill... Just keep in mind is gonna be 650$ minimum with shipping and pp fees, vs the 450 of kira

Granted, i might join jane v2 too, but kira is a nicer design imo


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same, TGR has a really good reputation and the designs are always very clean. I'd say the designs are prety comparable but TGR offers better colors...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 01 October 2018, 15:40:05
People like to hype things that are hyped. TGR is really nice, but it's all preference.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 01 October 2018, 15:56:05
Not to throw shade or anything, why are some people recommending Jane v2 over Kira? genuine curious question.
General hype for tgr shill... Just keep in mind is gonna be 650$ minimum with shipping and pp fees, vs the 450 of kira

Granted, i might join jane v2 too, but kira is a nicer design imo


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same, TGR has a really good reputation and the designs are always very clean. I'd say the designs are prety comparable but TGR offers better colors...
Yeah Eve really didnt do to great on colors with this one, was pretty disappointing
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 02 October 2018, 11:20:43
welp google captcha fked me on the Jane.  :( :(

Back to Kira then.

Eve has a history of delays (meteor is currently behind schedule), Kira has an estimated ship target of December. How likely are we going to receive Kira before CNY late Jan 2019.

Title: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: dimo on Tue, 02 October 2018, 11:30:38
Guess I’ll get the Kira now. Missed jane, saved money i guess hahah
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 02 October 2018, 11:53:46
saw a 7075 type 3 black ano kira on thesiscamper's ig. That's a one off, right? The description on this was 6061/6063 when it began
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: mathleejj on Tue, 02 October 2018, 11:55:36
saw a 7075 type 3 black ano kira on thesiscamper's ig. That's a one off, right? The description on this was 6061/6063 when it began

Think that one is Kira60 v2
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: dimo on Tue, 02 October 2018, 11:57:49
saw a 7075 type 3 black ano kira on thesiscamper's ig. That's a one off, right? The description on this was 6061/6063 when it began
that’s the 60% kira


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 02 October 2018, 12:02:23
saw a 7075 type 3 black ano kira on thesiscamper's ig. That's a one off, right? The description on this was 6061/6063 when it began
that’s the 60% kira


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Ah, that makes sense. Must not have been paying attention properly.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: germy on Tue, 02 October 2018, 19:15:07
Are there no photos of the purple version of this case?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 02 October 2018, 19:59:01
Are there no photos of the purple version of this case?

I don't think those have been finished yet since it was indicated that there would be a longer wait time for black and purple
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: germy on Wed, 03 October 2018, 02:11:10
Are there no photos of the purple version of this case?

I don't think those have been finished yet since it was indicated that there would be a longer wait time for black and purple


Ah thanks for that. I had no idea.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Holicalis on Wed, 03 October 2018, 18:21:54
What is the layout of the bottom row for wkl?  I can't really tell from the pictures
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 03 October 2018, 18:22:36
What is the layout of the bottom row for wkl?  I can't really tell from the pictures

1.5 1b 1.5 7 1.5 1b 1.5
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 03 October 2018, 19:08:01
well jumped in for a second, this time black so well see maybe ill sell one.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Wed, 03 October 2018, 19:12:53
Are there no pads in the intl zf buy?>
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 03 October 2018, 19:17:34
Are there no pads in the intl zf buy?>

Soon
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: SBN on Fri, 05 October 2018, 04:17:04
Did anybody hear back from Alex regarding the black copper weight option for the intl GB?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 05 October 2018, 08:54:18
Did anybody hear back from Alex regarding the black copper weight option for the intl GB?

I sent him a question about a week ago and still haven't gotten a response.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: kokugatsu on Fri, 05 October 2018, 12:01:36
Did anybody hear back from Alex regarding the black copper weight option for the intl GB?

I sent him a question about a week ago and still haven't gotten a response.

Pretty sure zF is off until 8th because of golden week.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 05 October 2018, 12:37:14
Did anybody hear back from Alex regarding the black copper weight option for the intl GB?

I sent him a question about a week ago and still haven't gotten a response.

Pretty sure zF is off until 8th because of golden week.

Ah yeah that makes sense
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 05 October 2018, 16:58:45
same as above asked about a week ago and no response also asked about color change and no response so im assuming there off.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 07 October 2018, 18:06:13
Rather than emailing Alex directly, reply to your order confirmation, that way you get an automated response for a ticket creation. I got 2 replies from Alex on Oct 4th.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Mon, 08 October 2018, 13:56:01
Not sure if this was always on the product page and I missed it, or if was added recently.

"the samples below have brushed aluminum and brass weight. Final products will have electro-plated brass."

Electro-plated = black?

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: rioc on Mon, 08 October 2018, 15:17:53
Not sure if this was always on the product page and I missed it, or if was added recently.

"the samples below have brushed aluminum and brass weight. Final products will have electro-plated brass."

Electro-plated = black?

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No, electroplated can auso be gold, silver, rosegold, anything glossy basically

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Tue, 09 October 2018, 19:12:10
Did anyone hear back from Alex regarding different weight colors?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Tue, 09 October 2018, 19:30:59
Did anyone hear back from Alex regarding different weight colors?

Nevermind - I replied thinking that electroplated brass can only be one color- just read the reply above
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sythie on Tue, 09 October 2018, 20:17:26
Not sure if this was always on the product page and I missed it, or if was added recently.

"the samples below have brushed aluminum and brass weight. Final products will have electro-plated brass."

Electro-plated = black?

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No, electroplated can auso be gold, silver, rosegold, anything glossy basically

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Wondering if the "black copper" plate offered in the Chinese GB were electroplated brass and not copper or if it is something entirely different.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: OracleKev on Tue, 09 October 2018, 20:33:07
Not sure if this was always on the product page and I missed it, or if was added recently.

"the samples below have brushed aluminum and brass weight. Final products will have electro-plated brass."

Electro-plated = black?

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No, electroplated can auso be gold, silver, rosegold, anything glossy basically

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Wondering if the "black copper" plate offered in the Chinese GB were electroplated brass and not copper or if it is something entirely different.

Where did this "black copper weight" come from?  The China edition is supposed to have an additional weight in the back.
I don't see any information referring to different color weight.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Tue, 09 October 2018, 21:31:07
I'm actually chuckling a bit - back weight/ black weight.

Alex's email also hinted at a back weight - so that'll be interesting.
As to the weight colors - zF never really said anything. The prototypes they had on thesis' insta as well as the GB page shows sliver as well as brushed brass. So people - including myself - were wondering if thats gonna be an option.

I wish zF/thesisCamper would comment and clarify things a bit !

 
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: OracleKev on Tue, 09 October 2018, 21:36:47
I'm actually chuckling a bit - back weight/ black weight.

Alex's email also hinted at a back weight - so that'll be interesting.
As to the weight colors - zF never really said anything. The prototypes they had on thesis' insta as well as the GB page shows sliver as well as brushed brass. So people - including myself - were wondering if thats gonna be an option.

I wish zF/thesisCamper would comment and clarify things a bit !

 

From this page: https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keyboards/products/kira-tkl-by-thesiscamper

" * the samples below have brushed aluminum and brass weight. Final products will have electro-plated brass."
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 09 October 2018, 22:25:04
I'm actually chuckling a bit - back weight/ black weight.

Alex's email also hinted at a back weight - so that'll be interesting.
As to the weight colors - zF never really said anything. The prototypes they had on thesis' insta as well as the GB page shows sliver as well as brushed brass. So people - including myself - were wondering if thats gonna be an option.

I wish zF/thesisCamper would comment and clarify things a bit !

 

Alex will be addressing your queries soon, also there's no black weight it's a "back" weight on the rear.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 10 October 2018, 00:45:06
I'm actually chuckling a bit - back weight/ black weight.

Alex's email also hinted at a back weight - so that'll be interesting.
As to the weight colors - zF never really said anything. The prototypes they had on thesis' insta as well as the GB page shows sliver as well as brushed brass. So people - including myself - were wondering if thats gonna be an option.

I wish zF/thesisCamper would comment and clarify things a bit !

 

Alex will be addressing your queries soon, also there's no black weight it's a "back" weight on the rear.
Thanks for chiming in @thesiscamper  !!

Yes - I understand there is no "black" weight - that's why I was cracking up a bit.
I really wish there were a back weight -priced extra - would lend to some interesting color combinations.

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 10 October 2018, 00:47:55
I'm actually chuckling a bit - back weight/ black weight.

Alex's email also hinted at a back weight - so that'll be interesting.
As to the weight colors - zF never really said anything. The prototypes they had on thesis' insta as well as the GB page shows sliver as well as brushed brass. So people - including myself - were wondering if thats gonna be an option.

I wish zF/thesisCamper would comment and clarify things a bit !

 

From this page: https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keyboards/products/kira-tkl-by-thesiscamper

" * the samples below have brushed aluminum and brass weight. Final products will have electro-plated brass."

Yes I saw that too - but I sort of assumed that electroplated brass meant just brass colored brass. I did not see any suggestion of colored weights.
That being said I'd jump on one, and I hope that it turns out to be the case ...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 10 October 2018, 01:23:52
I'm actually chuckling a bit - back weight/ black weight.

Alex's email also hinted at a back weight - so that'll be interesting.
As to the weight colors - zF never really said anything. The prototypes they had on thesis' insta as well as the GB page shows sliver as well as brushed brass. So people - including myself - were wondering if thats gonna be an option.

I wish zF/thesisCamper would comment and clarify things a bit !

 

Alex will be addressing your queries soon, also there's no black weight it's a "back" weight on the rear.
Thanks for chiming in @thesiscamper  !!

Yes - I understand there is no "black" weight - that's why I was cracking up a bit.
I really wish there were a back weight -priced extra - would lend to some interesting color combinations.

I believe zF intends to include the rear weights to those in the priority list, but let's wait for confirmation.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 10 October 2018, 08:38:09
I'm actually chuckling a bit - back weight/ black weight.

Alex's email also hinted at a back weight - so that'll be interesting.
As to the weight colors - zF never really said anything. The prototypes they had on thesis' insta as well as the GB page shows sliver as well as brushed brass. So people - including myself - were wondering if thats gonna be an option.

I wish zF/thesisCamper would comment and clarify things a bit !

 

Alex will be addressing your queries soon, also there's no black weight it's a "back" weight on the rear.

hilarious that there was that misunderstanding but I'd much rather prefer the back weight. :))
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: razor_blade on Thu, 11 October 2018, 10:53:51
So, any word on the Kira S? I need a beautiful, programmable Aluminium numpad in my life!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 11 October 2018, 12:27:09
In an email with Alex, it was confirmed to me that there will be back (rear) weights for the priority units.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 11 October 2018, 12:28:19
In an email with Alex, it was confirmed to me that there will be back (rear) weights for the priority units.

This is awesome news !!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: ullr on Sun, 14 October 2018, 19:28:39
I wasn't following this group buy until I randomly saw the thread and bought in on the first of this month so I assume I'm not "priority", so can I pick up a weight later? I may not want to depending on the price but I am somewhat interested.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 14 October 2018, 21:11:36
I wasn't following this group buy until I randomly saw the thread and bought in on the first of this month so I assume I'm not "priority", so can I pick up a weight later? I may not want to depending on the price but I am somewhat interested.
most likely not, i want to say if the non priority units dont include a weight and there was no option to buy one than no. the priority units are different because we are the original backers that paid and were ready to buy the keyboard originally before it failed and eve picked it up. 
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 15 October 2018, 02:10:58
So non pirority people get alu weight?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 15 October 2018, 03:00:35
Glad the kira s got delayed, I might able to afford one now :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: mathleejj on Mon, 15 October 2018, 04:46:35
So non pirority people get alu weight?

I think that the "back" weight is only given to priority buys and Chinese national buys
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: elmo on Mon, 15 October 2018, 11:45:10
So non pirority people get alu weight?

I think that the "back" weight is only given to priority buys and Chinese national buys

So if I understand this right this is a weight additional to that "inside" the cutout kira logo on the back side?
Because this should be included in all buys as it said that on the zFrontier page.
Quote
KIRA TKL PARTS
  • Electro-plated Brass weight
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: mathleejj on Mon, 15 October 2018, 11:48:16
So non pirority people get alu weight?

I think that the "back" weight is only given to priority buys and Chinese national buys

So if I understand this right this is a weight additional to that "inside" the cutout kira logo on the back side?
Because this should be included in all buys as it said that on the zFrontier page.
Quote
KIRA TKL PARTS
  • Electro-plated Brass weight

Yep. The internal weight (w/ KIRA logo) is basically included in all buys (international, priority, chinese). The back weight (additional part) seems to be only for priority and chinese buy.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: elmo on Mon, 15 October 2018, 11:51:59
Yep. The internal weight (w/ KIRA logo) is basically included in all buys (international, priority, chinese). The back weight (additional part) seems to be only for priority and chinese buy.

Ah ok. Then I don't really care :D
I only really need the included one.
But just out of curiosity:
Are there any pictures of the additional weight?
I don't think that I have seen one on here.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: mathleejj on Mon, 15 October 2018, 11:56:15
Yep. The internal weight (w/ KIRA logo) is basically included in all buys (international, priority, chinese). The back weight (additional part) seems to be only for priority and chinese buy.

Ah ok. Then I don't really care :D
I only really need the included one.
But just out of curiosity:
Are there any pictures of the additional weight?
I don't think that I have seen one on here.

https://img.zfrontier.com/cover/20180925/FmTFDiPScDeF4msw0nAroI5N7gEJ?imageView2/1/w/800/h/550/q/85!

I've only seen this one.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 15 October 2018, 16:50:54
Glad the kira s got delayed, I might able to afford one now :cool:

kinda wish it would have come at the same time as the board but now instead of one ill get two, one to match each board. I just like when everything all arrives at once especially  when i know there gonna nail me international shipping again lol.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 16 October 2018, 01:20:04
Glad the kira s got delayed, I might able to afford one now :cool:

kinda wish it would have come at the same time as the board but now instead of one ill get two, one to match each board. I just like when everything all arrives at once especially  when i know there gonna nail me international shipping again lol.

I’m equally hoping for 1 package as well if I pick up a kira s. International shipping is no fun haha
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: kokugatsu on Fri, 26 October 2018, 11:22:41
Just saw the update on zF.  (https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-oct-23-2018)

KIRA S is coming "very soon".
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sat, 10 November 2018, 19:56:05
Idk if any one has seen but apparently there was a pearl blue (at least it looks like) kira80 proto at the nor cal meetup https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9vykbj/norcal_rmk_meetup_2018/?st=JOC86GQK&sh=2f6aed6a

 ;D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Sun, 11 November 2018, 03:08:29
Idk if any one has seen but apparently there was a pearl blue (at least it looks like) kira80 proto at the nor cal meetup https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9vykbj/norcal_rmk_meetup_2018/?st=JOC86GQK&sh=2f6aed6a

 ;D



Oh ****!  That's actually nice!  I'm maybe starting to feel okay that I never heard back from zfrontier about possibly changing colors, hahaha.  I'll be happy with that.  I notice that one has a silver weight insert - do we have any info on weight finishings yet?

Thanks for the pic, dude!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Sun, 11 November 2018, 06:26:38
does anyone know when we will be getting them? i cant wait already lol
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 11 November 2018, 07:38:47
Idk if any one has seen but apparently there was a pearl blue (at least it looks like) kira80 proto at the nor cal meetup https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9vykbj/norcal_rmk_meetup_2018/?st=JOC86GQK&sh=2f6aed6a

 ;D



Oh ****!  That's actually nice!  I'm maybe starting to feel okay that I never heard back from zfrontier about possibly changing colors, hahaha.  I'll be happy with that.  I notice that one has a silver weight insert - do we have any info on weight finishings yet?

Thanks for the pic, dude!

I was hoping you would be satisfied! The board looks amazing and you should be excited :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Sun, 25 November 2018, 10:20:25
definitely am now!  Anyone know if there has been an update insofar as scheduling?

Hope everyone in the states had a nice Thanksgiving!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Tue, 27 November 2018, 00:31:04
i dunno why but ever since i have participated in this group buy, they have never updated any information regarding it.. like even if I send them emails, they would answer like 1 out of 10. please can i have any kinda updates for instance anodizeing, samples, etc. all i saw was the photo of the pearl blue from nor cal meet up... and we have only like couple of weeks left until the supposed shipping date
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Tue, 27 November 2018, 08:27:12
i dunno why but ever since i have participated in this group buy, they have never updated any information regarding it.. like even if I send them emails, they would answer like 1 out of 10. please can i have any kinda updates for instance anodizeing, samples, etc. all i saw was the photo of the pearl blue from nor cal meet up... and we have only like couple of weeks left until the supposed shipping date

TBH thats how it goes with KIRA buys, very little info until you have it in your hands, at least from what i have seen from the other kira buys. Just sit tight and wait, you know hat you signed up for lol you'll get i in time, hasn't even been that long really.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 27 November 2018, 09:10:48
https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates

last update was on the oct 23 post. check there for updates.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 27 November 2018, 09:21:29
https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates

last update was on the oct 23 post. check there for updates.

Ha, so we're still just waiting on Eve for an update?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 27 November 2018, 10:47:05
https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates

last update was on the oct 23 post. check there for updates.

Ha, so we're still just waiting on Eve for an update?


Its been a month so I would expect they will be making a new update post soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Tue, 27 November 2018, 20:53:09
i dunno why but ever since i have participated in this group buy, they have never updated any information regarding it.. like even if I send them emails, they would answer like 1 out of 10. please can i have any kinda updates for instance anodizeing, samples, etc. all i saw was the photo of the pearl blue from nor cal meet up... and we have only like couple of weeks left until the supposed shipping date

TBH thats how it goes with KIRA buys, very little info until you have it in your hands, at least from what i have seen from the other kira buys. Just sit tight and wait, you know hat you signed up for lol you'll get i in time, hasn't even been that long really.

lol i ordered mine on October 7th, so it's been almost 2 months they haven't updated a thing. i have participated in numerous gbs but this is like the only one that is not constatntly updating infos.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Wed, 28 November 2018, 05:20:02
Saw photos of the casing already milled sometime back. ZFrontier should be updating though. Also spoken to Eve today, seems like PCB is the reason holding the shipment.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 28 November 2018, 09:55:12
can we get photos of the back weight at least? Or more updates... I thought the whole point of the updated buy format was that the cases were already made and ready to be shipped out quickly..
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 28 November 2018, 10:35:31
I thought the whole point of the updated buy format was that the cases were already made and ready to be shipped out quickly..

Did you get the colors that ran in the Chinese GB and choose the WKL option? I thought the fast shipment was for only the WKL in limited colors.  Some updates about either would be a good thing !
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 28 November 2018, 14:25:29
I thought the whole point of the updated buy format was that the cases were already made and ready to be shipped out quickly..

Did you get the colors that ran in the Chinese GB and choose the WKL option? I thought the fast shipment was for only the WKL in limited colors.  Some updates about either would be a good thing !

I chose WKL Grey which was one of the fast options and was confirmed it by Alex.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 28 November 2018, 16:41:32
Ah! Then you should have had a faster turn around. I’m also eagerly waiting for updates from zfrontier
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 28 November 2018, 20:45:03
i bought one of each one that was done and one not done so well see if its really faster or not lol
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Thu, 29 November 2018, 01:27:49
I thought the whole point of the updated buy format was that the cases were already made and ready to be shipped out quickly..

Did you get the colors that ran in the Chinese GB and choose the WKL option? I thought the fast shipment was for only the WKL in limited colors.  Some updates about either would be a good thing !

i got the one that is WKL with red anodizing. cuz i heard that is one of the fastest shipping color option. they are not updating a single thing regarding them. since there are silver and brass color for the weight options, and there was no option for choosing that, that i dont even know which weight i will be getting.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: elmo on Thu, 29 November 2018, 08:20:57
i got the one that is WKL with red anodizing. cuz i heard that is one of the fastest shipping color option. they are not updating a single thing regarding them. since there are silver and brass color for the weight options, and there was no option for choosing that, that i dont even know which weight i will be getting.

zFrontier page said that the example pictures show the alumium weight but that the production units will feature a brass weight.
So you will probably get the brass version.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 29 November 2018, 08:41:33
I’m pretty sure the weight is brass. Hopefully when zfrontier updates, they can update the status of our personalized numbers too.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 29 November 2018, 08:44:39
Think the confusion here is the bottom and back weight. Bottom weight is brass on all boards. Chinese buy got a BACK weight, there was only 1 picture of it in this thread somewhere.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 29 November 2018, 08:53:41
Think the confusion here is the bottom and back weight. Bottom weight is brass on all boards. Chinese buy got a BACK weight, there was only 1 picture of it in this thread somewhere.

Aren't we getting a KIRA bottom brass weight + back weight with the personalized number as priority buyers? Was under the impression, but could be totally wrong about that :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sroop on Thu, 29 November 2018, 08:54:25
Think the confusion here is the bottom and back weight. Bottom weight is brass on all boards. Chinese buy got a BACK weight, there was only 1 picture of it in this thread somewhere.

Aren't we getting a KIRA bottom brass weight + back weight with the personalized number as priority buyers? Was under the impression, but could be totally wrong about that :)
That was my impression as well.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sat, 01 December 2018, 12:59:17
all weights should be brass. the aluminum weights were just prototypes (may have been offered in the Chinese GB). Normal orders would have the bottom weight. For priority buyers, Alex said that eve is planning to add the back weight as well. Alex emailed the back weight detail to me when I asked. Another user here on the forum also said the same thing. Zfrontier has not made anything official regarding the back weight.

That being said- we should a wait a bit more, there are many GBs running during the time Kira was run, so even if eve had an update, it might just be getting late to get to us
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Fri, 07 December 2018, 03:22:45
so.... i thought the supposed/estimated shipping date was 2 months later from the end date of the kira gb which is October 7th... can I please have any kinda information?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Fri, 07 December 2018, 07:21:07
Since I am also a buyer of both the tkl + pad, I went to ask Eve directly instead of zFrontier for an update (zF ignored me, not sure why? lol).

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/520591515396079616/unknown.png?width=1157&height=1299)

Cases have milled and anodized. Currently just waiting for PCB, with targeted ship date before Christmas.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/454659720385527808/520543549444456479/1487bea10e829e02.jpg)

I am not sure of any other details.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Bubblegum on Fri, 07 December 2018, 09:20:27
I never found the option to buy the numpad on the English zFrontier site. Not sure if I missed it or it never was available. Glad I'm in for the TKL though. Looks amazing!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Fri, 07 December 2018, 09:29:51
I never found the option to buy the numpad on the English zFrontier site. Not sure if I missed it or it never was available. Glad I'm in for the TKL though. Looks amazing!

It was not available on the intl site. No idea why.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sroop on Fri, 07 December 2018, 09:33:52
Since I am also a buyer of both the tkl + pad, I went to ask Eve directly instead of zFrontier for an update (zF ignored me, not sure why? lol).

Show Image
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/520591515396079616/unknown.png?width=1157&height=1299)


Cases have milled and anodized. Currently just waiting for PCB, with targeted ship date before Christmas.
Show Image
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/454659720385527808/520543549444456479/1487bea10e829e02.jpg)


I am not sure of any other details.

Fantastic, thanks for the update.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 07 December 2018, 17:06:40
damn and still no num pad for us, what luck.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Sat, 08 December 2018, 02:57:35
damn and still no num pad for us, what luck.

lol not just the numpads tho.... i still have no idea which of the weight color i will be getting....
i was hoping for the color swap from premium red to pearl blue.. .but they would never answer me
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 08 December 2018, 03:00:04
change thread title
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sat, 08 December 2018, 03:37:18
damn and still no num pad for us, what luck.

lol not just the numpads tho.... i still have no idea which of the weight color i will be getting....
i was hoping for the color swap from premium red to pearl blue.. .but they would never answer me

Aren’t the weights all brass ? I believe the aluminum weights were just on the prototypes ?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 08 December 2018, 10:37:13
Yeah i don't understand what is confusing you guys about the weights, there gonna be brass the aluminum was for proto purposes. i just don't get why they'd run the num pad separate for US buyers when were the ones that will get hit with double shipping and crap not the people that bought in on the china buy cause that is where eve is located lol plus would it not be easier to get all the orders both us and china and do them all at once so you know you don't have to tool up and make stuff again? idk just weird. it just does not make sense but whatever this whole buy has been annoying tbh. ill be happy when my two boards are here and i don't have to check this thread any more.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Sat, 08 December 2018, 10:48:34
Yeah i don't understand what is confusing you guys about the weights, there gonna be brass the aluminum was for proto purposes. i just don't get why they'd run the num pad separate for US buyers when were the ones that will get hit with double shipping and crap not the people that bought in on the china buy cause that is where eve is located lol plus would it not be easier to get all the orders both us and china and do them all at once so you know you don't have to tool up and make stuff again? idk just weird. it just does not make sense but whatever this whole buy has been annoying tbh. ill be happy when my two boards are here and i don't have to check this thread any more.

Lol, I have no idea what zf is tripping. I would want some of that too.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Sun, 09 December 2018, 03:24:04
Yeah i don't understand what is confusing you guys about the weights, there gonna be brass the aluminum was for proto purposes. i just don't get why they'd run the num pad separate for US buyers when were the ones that will get hit with double shipping and crap not the people that bought in on the china buy cause that is where eve is located lol plus would it not be easier to get all the orders both us and china and do them all at once so you know you don't have to tool up and make stuff again? idk just weird. it just does not make sense but whatever this whole buy has been annoying tbh. ill be happy when my two boards are here and i don't have to check this thread any more.

yup exactly. but they weren't clear with the weight option tho. this gb is honestly very messy now that they had separated the chinese gb with the international ones. they didn't even open the numpad section for us. and the main problem is that they wouldn't update a single thing regarding the board. i am thankful to see one of the gb participant posting up a new update he got from EVE but at the same time upset that i heard those news not from the kira or zf but from merely participant. really can't do anyting til they ship us the board since they wouldn't answer any questions.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 09 December 2018, 10:13:42
Yeah i don't understand what is confusing you guys about the weights, there gonna be brass the aluminum was for proto purposes. i just don't get why they'd run the num pad separate for US buyers when were the ones that will get hit with double shipping and crap not the people that bought in on the china buy cause that is where eve is located lol plus would it not be easier to get all the orders both us and china and do them all at once so you know you don't have to tool up and make stuff again? idk just weird. it just does not make sense but whatever this whole buy has been annoying tbh. ill be happy when my two boards are here and i don't have to check this thread any more.

yup exactly. but they weren't clear with the weight option tho. this gb is honestly very messy now that they had separated the chinese gb with the international ones. they didn't even open the numpad section for us. and the main problem is that they wouldn't update a single thing regarding the board. i am thankful to see one of the gb participant posting up a new update he got from EVE but at the same time upset that i heard those news not from the kira or zf but from merely participant. really can't do anyting til they ship us the board since they wouldn't answer any questions.


I agree, very frustrating for sure, im lucky to have a line directly to one of the gb runners so i'm half ass up to date but yeah irritating. The whole splitting things up i think was supposed to ease there production time?  when in reality it helps nothing but make this even more of a mess/costly/time consuming. When ZF was in as a vendor i knew it was gonna get weird.   
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Tue, 11 December 2018, 00:39:38
Yeah i don't understand what is confusing you guys about the weights, there gonna be brass the aluminum was for proto purposes. i just don't get why they'd run the num pad separate for US buyers when were the ones that will get hit with double shipping and crap not the people that bought in on the china buy cause that is where eve is located lol plus would it not be easier to get all the orders both us and china and do them all at once so you know you don't have to tool up and make stuff again? idk just weird. it just does not make sense but whatever this whole buy has been annoying tbh. ill be happy when my two boards are here and i don't have to check this thread any more.

yup exactly. but they weren't clear with the weight option tho. this gb is honestly very messy now that they had separated the chinese gb with the international ones. they didn't even open the numpad section for us. and the main problem is that they wouldn't update a single thing regarding the board. i am thankful to see one of the gb participant posting up a new update he got from EVE but at the same time upset that i heard those news not from the kira or zf but from merely participant. really can't do anyting til they ship us the board since they wouldn't answer any questions.


I agree, very frustrating for sure, im lucky to have a line directly to one of the gb runners so i'm half ass up to date but yeah irritating. The whole splitting things up i think was supposed to ease there production time?  when in reality it helps nothing but make this even more of a mess/costly/time consuming. When ZF was in as a vendor i knew it was gonna get weird.   

lol lucky you, so what they up to? still in production? cuz the initial shipping date has passed but they didn't even update us with the delayed message. this KIRA geekhack gb thread always feels empty, just the participants talking with each other when in reality the admins or gb organizer is not commenting or replying to any of our threads, don't think i wanna participate in their future gbs
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Tue, 11 December 2018, 00:52:26
just the participants talking with each other when in reality the admins or gb organizer is not commenting or replying to any of our threads

^^^^^ THIS . 100%
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Tue, 11 December 2018, 02:37:43
Since I am also a buyer of both the tkl + pad, I went to ask Eve directly instead of zFrontier for an update (zF ignored me, not sure why? lol).

Show Image
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/520591515396079616/unknown.png?width=1157&height=1299)


Cases have milled and anodized. Currently just waiting for PCB, with targeted ship date before Christmas.
Show Image
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/454659720385527808/520543549444456479/1487bea10e829e02.jpg)


I am not sure of any other details.

For the people that missed out this update lol.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: yap68 on Tue, 11 December 2018, 04:54:35
Yes, just messaged EVE on QQ and he said will try to ship them out before Christmas for the international groupbuy.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 11 December 2018, 06:16:36
Yes, just messaged EVE on QQ and he said will try to ship them out before Christmas for the international groupbuy.

All colors? I didn’t see black or purple on those pics
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Bubblegum on Tue, 11 December 2018, 06:34:05
Yes, just messaged EVE on QQ and he said will try to ship them out before Christmas for the international groupbuy.

All colors? I didn’t see black or purple on those pics

Also notice that all of the boards in the photo are WKL, so maybe it's an older photo from the chinese buy? I'm sure I'm not the only one that picked WK :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Tue, 11 December 2018, 09:28:22
Yes, just messaged EVE on QQ and he said will try to ship them out before Christmas for the international groupbuy.

All colors? I didn’t see black or purple on those pics

Also notice that all of the boards in the photo are WKL, so maybe it's an older photo from the chinese buy? I'm sure I'm not the only one that picked WK :)

i did hear that they had ship faster if the participants choose WKL option with colors other than black and purple, and that's why i chose WKL option with the premium red color.... but they are delayed without any notices
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 12 December 2018, 19:12:26
So now i have seen a custom K80 on reddit in a color we were told we would have to wait longer for. WTF is even going on anymore with this buy? gonna go ahead and start botherig ZF, eve and camper.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 12 December 2018, 19:41:47
So now i have seen a custom K80 on reddit in a color we were told we would have to wait longer for. WTF is even going on anymore with this buy? gonna go ahead and start botherig ZF, eve and camper.

basically, when a foreign runner runs a GB with EVE, they sign off the rights for EVE to run a chinese GB, so that's why this happens sometimes

this is not the first or only time this has happened
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 12 December 2018, 20:08:55
So now i have seen a custom K80 on reddit in a color we were told we would have to wait longer for. WTF is even going on anymore with this buy? gonna go ahead and start botherig ZF, eve and camper.

basically, when a foreign runner runs a GB with EVE, they sign off the rights for EVE to run a chinese GB, so that's why this happens sometimes

this is not the first or only time this has happened

i see that now, very weird wont be joining any more buys eve picks up thats for sure, i get that some people will be getting them faster than us but customs and stuff should be held out till you fill your obligation to the host of people making it happen not a single sole user because he is your friend. Again im not even in a rush for these, its just infuriating not getting any sort of update for months on end then people get stuff that we were told would take more time before we got the stuff they claimed was "Already completed" and should ship out fast its pathetic in my opinion.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 12 December 2018, 20:16:43
According to ZF, the Chinese GB was only WKL in limited colors, the Chinese zf by page also said as much.
The pic on Reddit though, is a WK model in a color offered for the intl GB. It also seems to have some sort of a custom inscription on the back ??!

All said, the board looks nice, I just hope it ships soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Wed, 12 December 2018, 20:28:11
Most likely a proto unit on reddit. And username checks out to be someone from PH, same as thesiscamper. Most of his reddit photos were variation of kiras too.

Would sincerely need an update by thesiscamper and zf on the buy progress since they aee the author and proxy for this.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 12 December 2018, 21:09:48
Most likely a proto unit on reddit. And username checks out to be someone from PH, same as thesiscamper. Most of his reddit photos were variation of kiras too.

Would sincerely need an update by thesiscamper and zf on the buy progress since they aee the author and proxy for this.

yeah i suppose you are right,
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Thu, 13 December 2018, 07:35:48
Rather than speculation and waiting for an official reply I went to ask zf on discord.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/522768317795270656/unknown.png)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 13 December 2018, 15:02:36
Rather than speculation and waiting for an official reply I went to ask zf on discord.

Show Image
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/522768317795270656/unknown.png)


Thanks for the update :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 13 December 2018, 16:14:10
Hope that includes all colors and layouts lol
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 13 December 2018, 16:45:46
sweet thanks Mikiberry, thats much appreciated.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: razor_blade on Sun, 23 December 2018, 14:29:16
I need a matching numpad. I'm hoping I get a shot at one...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 24 December 2018, 06:14:17
Kind of a stupid question, but does zFrontier have a discord server?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: King4477 on Mon, 24 December 2018, 07:51:31
I need a matching numpad. I'm hoping I get a shot at one...

I sure hope I get a shot at one, also. Especially so since I paid for extra Kira S plates and PCBs a few months ago during the Kira 80 group buy. 

Kind of a stupid question, but does zFrontier have a discord server?

+1 would like to know.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Choppersuey on Thu, 27 December 2018, 01:36:28
Any updates regarding shipping date?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Thu, 27 December 2018, 03:04:08
so.... i thought everything should be ready before christmas, and what now? new year? I think this is the most-rude GB i've ever participated in, if it had delayed for others, they would at least post infos regarding that  :mad:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 27 December 2018, 03:36:27
so.... i thought everything should be ready before christmas, and what now? new year? I think this is the most-rude GB i've ever participated in, if it had delayed for others, they would at least post infos regarding that  :mad:

welp google captcha fked me on the Jane.  :( :(

Back to Kira then.

Eve has a history of delays (meteor is currently behind schedule), Kira has an estimated ship target of December. How likely are we going to receive Kira before CNY late Jan 2019.

Kinda guessed as much, considering eve's history
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 27 December 2018, 07:53:35
Can we get an update on this please.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Thu, 27 December 2018, 09:14:55
Went to ask ZF again.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/471313838323531778/527866859773624320/unknown.png?width=600&height=164)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 27 December 2018, 09:15:41
Doesn't eve ship directly to buyers?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: kokugatsu on Thu, 27 December 2018, 09:25:52
nice, though I believe they genuinely forgot to open the intl GB for Kira S
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Thu, 27 December 2018, 09:58:04
Doesn't eve ship directly to buyers?

I dunno lol. Not the runner.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 27 December 2018, 13:29:57
Doesn't eve ship directly to buyers?

Don't think so, 'cause Eve doesn't understand much English I believe.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 27 December 2018, 19:56:12
Doesn't eve ship directly to buyers?

I believe that's why zFrontier is doing the buy, but this is fantastic news. Starting to get a little more excited ;D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Fri, 28 December 2018, 04:13:54
Went to ask ZF again.

Show Image
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/471313838323531778/527866859773624320/unknown.png?width=600&height=164)


so when is the expected shipping date now? lol
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: ullr on Fri, 28 December 2018, 15:58:14
For the record I'd also be interested in a Kira S

But only if this ever ships lmao
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: SBN on Fri, 28 December 2018, 19:19:00
Good to hear anything, even if it’s through a third party and over a discord message... Feels kind of strange for a big vendor to communicate next to nothing, especially if there is some confusion (black/back weight) and delays of the GB.

Anyway...i still hope the Kira S is happening! :P
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: yap68 on Sat, 29 December 2018, 02:29:32
Even though I am quite sure shall reiceive my Kira, Meteor and GMK Phantom eventually, still not happy with the way zFrontier handling customers with near zero updates.

Shoud really think twice joining their next GB unless it is ready stock.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Sat, 29 December 2018, 11:01:02
Even though I am quite sure shall reiceive my Kira, Meteor and GMK Phantom eventually, still not happy with the way zFrontier handling customers with near zero updates.

Shoud really think twice joining their next GB unless it is ready stock.

yup i dont understand it either for big vendors like eve or zfrontier to be handling things this way;; and while these kinda gbs happenin, they still getting new gbs on their website when they are on their limit lmao.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: King4477 on Sun, 30 December 2018, 23:25:48
Has anyone been able to confirm if the Kira S is going to be offered to US customers? If it is not, then I do not have much reason to stay in this GB. zF has ignored my 4 emails over the last two months.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 03 January 2019, 22:40:24
So have the boards shipped yet?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: razor_blade on Thu, 03 January 2019, 23:26:39
Latest from zFrontier:

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Fri, 04 January 2019, 00:38:47
Cries. My pad is delayed lol.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Fri, 04 January 2019, 05:30:49
Latest from zFrontier:

(Attachment Link)

......they told us they would ship it before the Christmas tho  :(  and in terms of "very soon", how soon? :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 08 January 2019, 13:31:25
For sure the last time I buy anything off of zfrontier,.... their lack of any customer service at all is beyond pathetic. No updates for 3 months, all emails ignored. Only way you can get ahold of these clowns is tracking them down on discord.... pathetic.

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 08 January 2019, 21:10:00
Honestly, with GB's, I almost always expect delays and while it's hard to admit, I guess I just have to expect that GB runners in general will just be unresponsive, for some reason. Even so, it's incredible irksome that this is the standard. I get that they must be busy and all but posting takes less than a few minutes and if even that is too much, a company like zFrontier should at least be able to delegate someone to respond for them. It's pretty crazy that all our updates for this board (not cheap) are from other members asking them on other mediums. Come on. A lot of people joined this buy after the first one fell through because of the idea that the boards were already produced and ready to be shipped. I am fine with the delay considering the PCB issues but to not even be told that directly is frankly quite insulting. So I'll ask again if there is anyone from zFrontier reading this thread: When is the new expected shipping date?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: yap68 on Tue, 08 January 2019, 21:57:15
I shall avoid buying from zFrontier from now on. Thinking of getting refund through PayPal for my Meteor which supposedly to be delivered in October.

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 10 January 2019, 03:31:26
I'm trying to reach out to zFrontier, will let you guys know once I have an update.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: elmo on Thu, 10 January 2019, 03:46:48
I'm trying to reach out to zFrontier, will let you guys know once I have an update.

Thank you!  :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Thu, 10 January 2019, 12:53:15
does anyone know if i am able to get refund for this gb or if anyone is willing to take my spot?
 lol im upset on how they are handling group buys, where people are handing their money first-hand and trusting that they would send their product. I t blows my mind that all the updates these past few weeks or months has been posted none other than a mere gb-participant. dont think i would be purchasing/participating anything from zfrontier anymore. :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: dimo on Thu, 10 January 2019, 13:15:07
chillax. There’s been delays, just like almost every other gb we’ve ever had. Patience is necessary in this hobby.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: elmo on Fri, 11 January 2019, 04:11:39
chillax. There’s been delays, just like almost every other gb we’ve ever had. Patience is necessary in this hobby.

delays are ok if they are communicated properly.
but what the guys are doing here is definitely not cool.

I mean just take a look at the HB85 GB.
Regular updates with pictures and everything directly from the GB starter.
Here we literally have to squeeze every little bit of information out of the responsible persons...  :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: schlep on Fri, 11 January 2019, 07:07:24
perhaps their next reply would be that the Chinese New Year holidays are coming and that's causing another delay. bummer.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 11 January 2019, 14:43:49
I know delays are super annoying, but personally, I feel like I've waited longer to get in on this buy than it's been running, so I'm don't mind waiting. It also helps that this GB is run by respectable names in the community, so I'm not worried I'm being scammed or whatever. And I've also had some practice with the m65a last year  :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Sat, 12 January 2019, 10:04:47
I know delays are super annoying, but personally, I feel like I've waited longer to get in on this buy than it's been running, so I'm don't mind waiting. It also helps that this GB is run by respectable names in the community, so I'm not worried I'm being scammed or whatever. And I've also had some practice with the m65a last year  :blank:

the problem is not that we are afraid if we are gonna get scammed, but rather mad at how they are handling communication or updates. their initial shipping date was during around middle of december but til now, they had never updated or communicated officially.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 12 January 2019, 13:51:44
I know delays are super annoying, but personally, I feel like I've waited longer to get in on this buy than it's been running, so I'm don't mind waiting. It also helps that this GB is run by respectable names in the community, so I'm not worried I'm being scammed or whatever. And I've also had some practice with the m65a last year  :blank:

the problem is not that we are afraid if we are gonna get scammed, but rather mad at how they are handling communication or updates. their initial shipping date was during around middle of december but til now, they had never updated or communicated officially.

this, if they would just update us id be cool but hey that is a little too much to ask i suppose.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Sun, 13 January 2019, 02:34:54
perhaps their next reply would be that the Chinese New Year holidays are coming and that's causing another delay. bummer.

dang totally forgot about the chinese new year  :confused: have a feeling that they are not prepared to ship yet, and i bet they are gonna use chinese new year as an excuse as well too.... gotta expect shipping to be around late feb~March then ugh
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sun, 13 January 2019, 16:04:20
Pretty sure that will happen. Some pics of progress , colors would be nice though...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 13 January 2019, 21:31:58
Hi guys, sorry for the delayed update, Alex told me he just got back from a business trip. Latest news is EVE is doing final QC before shipping, this was last week. Alex messaged him again this morning for another update and he's still waiting for a reply. He will ask for some photos when EVE gets back to him so hopefully EVE can respond quickly and provide photos next.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Brammm87 on Mon, 14 January 2019, 02:15:22
the problem is not that we are afraid if we are gonna get scammed, but rather mad at how they are handling communication or updates. their initial shipping date was during around middle of december but til now, they had never updated or communicated officially.

Fair point.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Mon, 14 January 2019, 03:36:03
Hi guys, sorry for the delayed update, Alex told me he just got back from a business trip. Latest news is EVE is doing final QC before shipping, this was last week. Alex messaged him again this morning for another update and he's still waiting for a reply. He will ask for some photos when EVE gets back to him so hopefully EVE can respond quickly and provide photos next.

im not interested in the photos since i've seen them enough through zfrontier and alex, what I need is estimated shipping date...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 14 January 2019, 04:01:03
Hi guys, sorry for the delayed update, Alex told me he just got back from a business trip. Latest news is EVE is doing final QC before shipping, this was last week. Alex messaged him again this morning for another update and he's still waiting for a reply. He will ask for some photos when EVE gets back to him so hopefully EVE can respond quickly and provide photos next.

im not interested in the photos since i've seen them enough through zfrontier and alex, what I need is estimated shipping date...
We're waiting for news ourselves and info will be shared when we get them.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 16 January 2019, 02:53:18
EVE has started shipping the TKL kits to zFrontier, Alex said they want to ship these to participants before CNY.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Choppersuey on Wed, 16 January 2019, 04:52:03
That's great news, thanks for the update :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: yap68 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 05:00:45
EVE has started shipping the TKL kits to zFrontier, Alex said they want to ship these to participants before CNY.

Good news. Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 16 January 2019, 10:14:49
EVE has started shipping the TKL kits to zFrontier, Alex said they want to ship these to participants before CNY.

Great news! Have you heard anything about the Kira S numpad for international buyers?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 16 January 2019, 10:19:04
Wondering if the boards being shipped are all of them or just the WKL specific colours that were mentioned?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 18 January 2019, 01:21:26
Wondering if the boards being shipped are all of them or just the WKL specific colours that were mentioned?
Seeing as there was talk about manufacturing, I sincerely hope it's all models (especially because I ordered a WK one :p )
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Fri, 18 January 2019, 07:03:36
EVE has started shipping the TKL kits to zFrontier, Alex said they want to ship these to participants before CNY.

You are aware that Chinese New Year is from Feb 5th right? a lot of people are going to try order things from china before that, have a feeling that you can't ship em before since i heard from couple of my friends who had participated in different group buys on zfrontier which were held before kira tkl GB and they still haven't received it yet.... like c'mon, if you can't even handle single groupbuy properly, it's not smart to just keep adding new groupbuys followed by groupbuys.... feel like zfontier is very overloaded recently
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Fri, 18 January 2019, 07:16:27


EVE has started shipping the TKL kits to zFrontier, Alex said they want to ship these to participants before CNY.

You are aware that Chinese New Year is from Feb 5th right? a lot of people are going to try order things from china before that, have a feeling that you can't ship em before since i heard from couple of my friends who had participated in different group buys on zfrontier which were held before kira tkl GB and they still haven't received it yet.... like c'mon, if you can't even handle single groupbuy properly, it's not smart to just keep adding new groupbuys followed by groupbuys.... feel like zfontier is very overloaded recently

1) If EVE didnt start shipping the boards to zfrontier until this week, how is that zfrontier's fault?

2) Just because a GB that happened before Kira has been delayed, doesnt mean Kira will be. Different GBs have different manufacturers and lead times, ect.

3) Thesis isnt running this GB, he's just the designer and he's doing everything he can to keep us informed. Give him a break.

We'll get the boards when we get them. This isnt the first time in history of GBs that the expected shipping date wasn't met.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 18 January 2019, 07:22:42
Updates are sparse and I agree they should be more frequent, but zFrontier isn't holding back shipment just to spite everyone, and I believe they're trying to get this done as soon as possible. I don't think they have received the shipment yet, I will give an update as soon as I can.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Sat, 19 January 2019, 03:30:15


EVE has started shipping the TKL kits to zFrontier, Alex said they want to ship these to participants before CNY.

You are aware that Chinese New Year is from Feb 5th right? a lot of people are going to try order things from china before that, have a feeling that you can't ship em before since i heard from couple of my friends who had participated in different group buys on zfrontier which were held before kira tkl GB and they still haven't received it yet.... like c'mon, if you can't even handle single groupbuy properly, it's not smart to just keep adding new groupbuys followed by groupbuys.... feel like zfontier is very overloaded recently

1) If EVE didnt start shipping the boards to zfrontier until this week, how is that zfrontier's fault?

2) Just because a GB that happened before Kira has been delayed, doesnt mean Kira will be. Different GBs have different manufacturers and lead times, ect.

3) Thesis isnt running this GB, he's just the designer and he's doing everything he can to keep us informed. Give him a break.

We'll get the boards when we get them. This isnt the first time in history of GBs that the expected shipping date wasn't met.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

I guess you are right on number 1. but can't agree with number 2. tho since its not the first they theyve done this, it has happened previously for zfrontier where their earlier gbs were delayed, then followed by the gbs after that has been delayed like domino
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 22 January 2019, 20:26:51
zFrontier is expecting the boards by the end of this week, I was told shipment includes all TKL kits including winkeys.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Tue, 22 January 2019, 20:51:20
This is awesome news !!!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: DoesItReallyMatter on Wed, 23 January 2019, 17:31:56
What happened to the matching numpad? Still happening?


Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Fri, 25 January 2019, 00:09:30
i wonder if zfrontier would undervalue for us..... my country taxes up to 30% and that is such a waster of money ugh
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Sat, 26 January 2019, 21:10:36
zFrontier's CNY break begins on Feb 4, I haven't heard if they got the shipment already they were expecting it either last Saturday or this coming Monday, but Alex said they will ship everything they can before CNY.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 29 January 2019, 00:21:45
Update: zFrontier received the KIRA80 shipment yesterday, but didn't expect the amount of work needed to ship the orders out to all participants until they opened up the boxes. Basically they need to pack the kit, PCBs, screws, etc into the bag for each individual order. They will try to ship everything they can before their CNY break, but it is unlikely they can send all the orders out.

There are also issues with colors and they have to see what EVE has to say about it before we share more information.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 29 January 2019, 00:43:41
Update: zFrontier received the KIRA80 shipment yesterday, but didn't expect the amount of work needed to ship the orders out to all participants until they opened up the boxes. Basically they need to pack the kit, PCBs, screws, etc into the bag for each individual order. They will try to ship everything they can before their CNY break, but it is unlikely they can send all the orders out.

There are also issues with colors and they have to see what EVE has to say about it before we share more information.

Thanks for the updates. Hopefully they can send out most kits but I guess we can't really count on that happening.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Brammm87 on Tue, 29 January 2019, 04:04:57
Update: zFrontier received the KIRA80 shipment yesterday, but didn't expect the amount of work needed to ship the orders out to all participants until they opened up the boxes. Basically they need to pack the kit, PCBs, screws, etc into the bag for each individual order. They will try to ship everything they can before their CNY break, but it is unlikely they can send all the orders out.

There are also issues with colors and they have to see what EVE has to say about it before we share more information.

Do you know what the issues exactly are and which colors are affected?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Tue, 29 January 2019, 11:21:52
Update: zFrontier received the KIRA80 shipment yesterday, but didn't expect the amount of work needed to ship the orders out to all participants until they opened up the boxes. Basically they need to pack the kit, PCBs, screws, etc into the bag for each individual order. They will try to ship everything they can before their CNY break, but it is unlikely they can send all the orders out.

There are also issues with colors and they have to see what EVE has to say about it before we share more information.

thanks for the update! personally that "it's taking longer than we thought" sounds like "it's gonna be delayed" to me ugh..... i hope they really do send them out before CNY or else that is gonna be another delay there.. im also curious on what the issue was tho? that is brief and doesnt state exact reason for delay
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 29 January 2019, 15:31:46
Update: zFrontier received the KIRA80 shipment yesterday, but didn't expect the amount of work needed to ship the orders out to all participants until they opened up the boxes. Basically they need to pack the kit, PCBs, screws, etc into the bag for each individual order. They will try to ship everything they can before their CNY break, but it is unlikely they can send all the orders out.

There are also issues with colors and they have to see what EVE has to say about it before we share more information.

Yikes,
ZF is pretty bad at shipping so im assuming these wont start to ship till the end of February, and if the colors are bad then expect another 6 months to wait on EVE for remakes. sigh.... :mad:



Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 29 January 2019, 17:34:53
Some blue kits are different from the prototype colors, I believe they will be checking everything first before giving a full update on the colors. Please understand that it takes time to check dozens of kits and they cannot just open everything in one go because of space limitations.

We truly apologize for the delays, we want the kits shipped out as much as you guys. I'll give an update again once I get new information.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Jkush463 on Tue, 29 January 2019, 23:32:42
im just happy to be getting info on this finally thanks thesiscamper!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: ullr on Wed, 30 January 2019, 06:45:32
Bummer, I got pearl blue...

At least there's communication
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 30 January 2019, 20:17:16
Bummer, I got pearl blue...

same....  You're right though, at least we're getting some info.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Sun, 03 February 2019, 02:28:10
Some blue kits are different from the prototype colors, I believe they will be checking everything first before giving a full update on the colors. Please understand that it takes time to check dozens of kits and they cannot just open everything in one go because of space limitations.

We truly apologize for the delays, we want the kits shipped out as much as you guys. I'll give an update again once I get new information.

so..? now should we wait for end of feb when CNY ends or is it even more delayed? now it's beginning of feb and we dont hear anything from you guys regarding shipping yet so i am assuming you cant ship them before CNY,,,
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 03 February 2019, 11:01:42
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.

As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.

[attach=1]
[attach=2]
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: razor_blade on Sun, 03 February 2019, 11:05:50
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.

As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.

(Attachment Link)
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Any word on the Poseidon Blue? Same problems?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 03 February 2019, 11:13:45
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.

As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Any word on the Poseidon Blue? Same problems?

Alex said they're not good, but I didn't get photos for comparison. He also said Pearl Blue WKL kits are fine probably because they were made earlier.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: razor_blade on Sun, 03 February 2019, 11:31:14
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.

As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Any word on the Poseidon Blue? Same problems?

Alex said they're not good, but I didn't get photos for comparison. He also said Pearl Blue WKL kits are fine probably because they were made earlier.

Dang. Too late for a color change? 😉
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 03 February 2019, 12:05:10
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.

As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Holy crap that's pretty terrible...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Sun, 03 February 2019, 13:35:54
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.

As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.

(Attachment Link)
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Dang =/  That top WKL one looks pretty bad IMO (I ordered a pearl blue WKL model also, hahaha...welp)...  The bottom one looks closer to the original color, though.

He also said Pearl Blue WKL kits are fine probably because they were made earlier.

I dunno though - if he means the WKL from the pics you posted - I don't think that's close to the original color at all.  Here's a pic of 4 versions (though one is a render) that we've seen so far - the WKL one from your post almost seems purple in comparison:

(https://i.ibb.co/YXhsfkr/kira80-pearl-blue.png) (https://ibb.co/f9Hwrpc)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: ullr on Sun, 03 February 2019, 14:18:08
I'll volunteer to take that first one as long as it is unblemished, looks smart IMO
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: King4477 on Sun, 03 February 2019, 15:41:58
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.

As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.

(Attachment Link)
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Holy crap that's pretty terrible...

Yeah that WKL looks pretty far off from what was promised. In fact, the color looks similar to this photo that Alex shared last year, and which he advised was not representative of the final product. 

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=96381.0;attach=204579;image)

Why would Eve even ship that? I suppose it also means that any pearl blue Kira S, if it ever gets made, won’t colormatch the pearl blue Kira 80.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Sun, 03 February 2019, 16:38:19

Yeah that WKL looks pretty far off from what was promised. In fact, the color looks similar to this photo that Alex shared last year, and which he advised was not representative of the final product. 

Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=96381.0;attach=204579;image)


Why would Eve even ship that? I suppose it also means that any pearl blue Kira S, if it ever gets made, won’t colormatch the pearl blue Kira 80.

Oh yeah - I had forgotten about that pic.  I was also told that the color in that pic was not a good representation of the actual color.

I was really hoping for a color closer to the render or the prototype.  For some reason I had in my head that the weight would be silver also, but I guess they are brass (but I'm not too broken up about that I suppose).  Do we know if the numbers we picked were engraved in the weights?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Mon, 04 February 2019, 05:48:46
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.

As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.

(Attachment Link)
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thanks for the update! so how long should we wait longer now that none of them has been shipped?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 04 February 2019, 07:18:16
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.

As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

thanks for the update! so how long should we wait longer now that none of them has been shipped?

It’s gonna have to be after CNY
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sanryu on Thu, 07 February 2019, 23:58:15
KIRA TKL!!!!
i got it~~!!
and I participated through China. So there is a backplate.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: proboy84 on Fri, 08 February 2019, 00:07:30
KIRA TKL!!!!
i got it~~!!
and I participated through China. So there is a backplate.

(Attachment Link)
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Poseidon Blue?

Damn can't wait for mine
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sanryu on Fri, 08 February 2019, 00:13:06
KIRA TKL!!!!
i got it~~!!
and I participated through China. So there is a backplate.

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
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Poseidon Blue?

Damn can't wait for mine
yes poseidon blue. nice choice
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Choppersuey on Fri, 08 February 2019, 00:49:09
Very nice! How heavy is it? (With and without backplate)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sanryu on Fri, 08 February 2019, 00:57:21
Very nice! How heavy is it? (With and without backplate)

About 3kg except PCB
Backplate Included
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Fri, 08 February 2019, 01:54:38
wait so the chinese gbs are being shipped, and when for international ugh can't wait for my premium red kira tkl :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 08 February 2019, 02:18:23
Oh man... I can't wait for mine. I've been looking forward to this board for so long.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Nigolski on Fri, 08 February 2019, 06:03:42
KIRA TKL!!!!
i got it~~!!
and I participated through China. So there is a backplate.

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Is there something engraved on the backplate?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Bubblegum on Fri, 08 February 2019, 13:18:58
KIRA TKL!!!!
i got it~~!!
and I participated through China. So there is a backplate.

(Attachment Link)
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Looks amazing! Did you grab the Kira S also? Bummed we missed that as international buyers.

Edit: Imagine Poseidon Blue TKL with Nautilus Nightmares ;)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 12 February 2019, 14:45:58
When does CNY celebrations end? Are they going to be shipping immediately after?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 12 February 2019, 18:32:07
When does CNY celebrations end? Are they going to be shipping immediately after?

Could have swore it ends on the 13th or 14th but got shipping notification from KBDfans on the 9th ((Guessing just a shipping label)) as far as when these will ship, I have no idea but figured could least help out a bit.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sroop on Tue, 12 February 2019, 18:34:45
It ends on the 19th but businesses might be back before then.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Tue, 12 February 2019, 20:17:38
just hoping they wouldn't make any excuses like "we haven't organized and packed them yet" after the CNY....
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sanryu on Fri, 15 February 2019, 06:49:04
more photo by my friend
[attachimg=3]
[attachimg=2]
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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: xoxox1029 on Fri, 15 February 2019, 08:24:12
more photo by my friend
(Attachment Link)
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now that makes me wanna keep the kira for long... but just one question, does all the color come with that raw-aluminum look-alike backplate? honestly tho it would have looked way better if that thing was brass/gold instead of silver.... i ordered a premium red so the silver is not gonna match with it either ugh.....
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: sanryu on Fri, 15 February 2019, 10:29:00
more photo by my friend
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now that makes me wanna keep the kira for long... but just one question, does all the color come with that raw-aluminum look-alike backplate? honestly tho it would have looked way better if that thing was brass/gold instead of silver.... i ordered a premium red so the silver is not gonna match with it either ugh.....

Did you order from China? I can not be sure that you have a backplate that you ordered from an English site. And red and silver are going to go well.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: DoesItReallyMatter on Sat, 16 February 2019, 05:01:50
Anyone that actually got red numpad willing to part with it? Mostly ordered this tkl since there was going to be a matching numpad but it never showed up on the english site...


Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Brammm87 on Tue, 19 February 2019, 03:04:33
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.

As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Any word on the Poseidon Blue? Same problems?

Alex said they're not good, but I didn't get photos for comparison. He also said Pearl Blue WKL kits are fine probably because they were made earlier.

Dang, I'm in for a poseidon blue one... Anything more known? What are the next steps? Do some boards need to go back for anodising?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 19 February 2019, 03:10:03
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.

As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Any word on the Poseidon Blue? Same problems?

Alex said they're not good, but I didn't get photos for comparison. He also said Pearl Blue WKL kits are fine probably because they were made earlier.

Dang, I'm in for a poseidon blue one... Anything more known? What are the next steps? Do some boards need to go back for anodising?

I haven't heard from zF since their CNY break, I'll let you know when I get an update.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: ullr on Tue, 19 February 2019, 06:41:54
He also said Pearl Blue WKL kits are fine probably because they were made earlier.

How can the pearl blue WKL's be fine if the photos of the two different colors are both WKL? I must be missing something

Also as an aside literally every single time I read this thread title I think the GB got cancelled again for a split second...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: kokugatsu on Tue, 19 February 2019, 08:42:31
Looks like people from China have received their orders before CNY, incl. KIRA S

(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190217/lrABv-a-VI4xoCieJr-3QhLujIAy?imageMogr2/strip&imageslim)
http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/12369
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: //gainsborough on Tue, 19 February 2019, 13:44:25
He also said Pearl Blue WKL kits are fine probably because they were made earlier.

How can the pearl blue WKL's be fine if the photos of the two different colors are both WKL? I must be missing something

Also as an aside literally every single time I read this thread title I think the GB got cancelled again for a split second...

The bottom on is WK, top is WKL - but I'm still bothered by the pics since the WK one is closer to the original promoted "pearl blue" color and the WKL which is supposedly "fine" looks almost purple by comparison.  I sent Alex another email about the pics but still haven't heard back - though to be fair I sent it in the middle of CNY.  I'll be disappointed if that's the actual color of the WKL pearl blue, though.  >_<

Looks like people from China have received their orders before CNY, incl. KIRA S

Show Image
(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190217/lrABv-a-VI4xoCieJr-3QhLujIAy?imageMogr2/strip&imageslim)

http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/12369


This one looks nice!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 19 February 2019, 19:27:50
Looks like people from China have received their orders before CNY, incl. KIRA S

Show Image
(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190217/lrABv-a-VI4xoCieJr-3QhLujIAy?imageMogr2/strip&imageslim)

http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/12369

Interesting. Well, on one hand it's somewhat understandable, with it being domestic and all, but at the same time it feels a bit unfair that there are a bunch of people who have already received theirs while we don't even get an official update...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 19 February 2019, 19:56:24
Looks like people from China have received their orders before CNY, incl. KIRA S

Show Image
(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190217/lrABv-a-VI4xoCieJr-3QhLujIAy?imageMogr2/strip&imageslim)

http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/12369

That back engraving looks really good (that blog looks pretty lit too lol). Hopefully we're still getting that. Besides zFrontier being horrible with their updates. I'm sure we'll be getting these soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S - cancelled, refunds in progress.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 19 February 2019, 20:23:14
Looks like people from China have received their orders before CNY, incl. KIRA S

Show Image
(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190217/lrABv-a-VI4xoCieJr-3QhLujIAy?imageMogr2/strip&imageslim)

http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/12369

Interesting. Well, on one hand it's somewhat understandable, with it being domestic and all, but at the same time it feels a bit unfair that there are a bunch of people who have already received theirs while we don't even get an official update...

board is made by EVE, china GB was closed before international GB even started
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vafan on Thu, 21 February 2019, 09:25:17
Well, one more Kira keyboard had delay :D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 21 February 2019, 10:50:34
I like the title change
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sanryu on Sun, 24 February 2019, 11:06:35
red kira
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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Sun, 24 February 2019, 13:14:20
so.... when are we able to get an update regarding shipping? I am really hoping I can get them during March..
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sun, 24 February 2019, 20:24:11
Are the pictures of the red overexposed or over saturated ? Or is that some knockoff SA carbon bonekit ? The key caps don’t look the right color, which makes me distrust the color of the case !
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Mon, 25 February 2019, 01:31:44
im pretty sure they are either over saturated or exposed or both.... the color on the keycap doesn't seem accurate, and the light shine on the plate is too bright. I have contacted zfrontier before regarding colors and alex told me the colors on premium red and poseidon blues are the ones with most accurate color matching with the photos on GB page.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 25 February 2019, 18:52:30
FYI: Alex hasn't gotten back to me, still waiting for an update.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: enfer on Tue, 26 February 2019, 13:11:36
FYI: Alex hasn't gotten back to me, still waiting for an update.

They are really irresponsible people.
If they have difficulties to answer, they just ignore the mail.

I sended email which want to get information of kira tkl over ten times for three month.
so? I can't get anything. Except Just auto reply. It is really funny.

It is comedy that I join another zf GB already. :p
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Tue, 26 February 2019, 21:04:05
FYI: Alex hasn't gotten back to me, still waiting for an update.

They are really irresponsible people.
If they have difficulties to answer, they just ignore the mail.

I sended email which want to get information of kira tkl over ten times for three month.
so? I can't get anything. Except Just auto reply. It is really funny.

It is comedy that I join another zf GB already. :p

yeah..... the team is not to be trusted of  :( the GB has been delayed for 4 months without an official update/announcement, how could the GB organizer just ignore us until now hm... I wonder if they could even ship in March. Hope they wouldn't make excuse again like "we haven't packed them yet" or something
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Max_P0 on Wed, 27 February 2019, 02:22:26
I sent them an email in January and then patiently waited because of Chinese New year and I still have not heard from them.

At this time, I am thinking of engaging my Credit Card company and get my money back.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Wed, 27 February 2019, 03:04:57
I sent them an email in January and then patiently waited because of Chinese New year and I still have not heard from them.

At this time, I am thinking of engaging my Credit Card company and get my money back.

is that even possible? I've been honestly thinking of refunds since january since this is not what the GB organizers should do to the participants....
GB: "We need some attention & money for this project!" -> Participants: "here you go :)" -> GB: (ignore)
 :( never should they act this way...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Wed, 27 February 2019, 03:08:19
I would give another week since some folks take long long time off during CNY.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Wed, 27 February 2019, 03:34:47
I guess kira is arriving for participants of chinese proxy, as i see more and more post regarding kira tkl on zfrontier. I don't know how to attach photos on geekhack so I am linking it: https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/12522
but woah.... the color is way off from what we saw from GB page, it's like a gmk necro now  :-X
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 27 February 2019, 13:03:22
I guess kira is arriving for participants of chinese proxy, as i see more and more post regarding kira tkl on zfrontier. I don't know how to attach photos on geekhack so I am linking it: https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/12522
but woah.... the color is way off from what we saw from GB page, it's like a gmk necro now  :-X

yeah that's really off...thank the heavens I got grey.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Nigolski on Wed, 27 February 2019, 13:23:54
wonder how lavender violet turned out
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 27 February 2019, 14:49:51
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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: ullr on Thu, 28 February 2019, 01:52:59
As a guy who ordered wkl pale blue, I would be happy with any color at this point. I like the more saturated purple hue, but the lighter blue will probably match the set I intend for it better. I just want my keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 28 February 2019, 17:10:46
Still no word from zF. I'll let you know as soon as I hear from them.


edit:
I just got word from a vendor that zF is actually back working on their group buys now, I still haven't heard from them directly.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Fri, 01 March 2019, 01:00:18
Ha! I actually didn’t pick red because I didn’t want the restrained color...and now it’s the full out bright red I originally wanted...

Picked the blue because I thought the weight will be silver...guess I didn’t have luck with the colors in this GB.

But we will see how it turns out in the end, hopefully it will look nice and will grow on me :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: //gainsborough on Sat, 02 March 2019, 02:33:15

Picked the blue because I thought the weight will be silver...guess I didn’t have luck with the colors in this GB.

But we will see how it turns out in the end, hopefully it will look nice and will grow on me :)

You and me both, my dude!  That latest linked pic of the pearl blue actually looks closer to the original color than some of the other pics we've seen - at least IMO anyway.  That's an encouraging sign!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Sat, 02 March 2019, 09:09:04
Ok its March, no more CNY excuses. Hard to believe it was originally scheduled for November 2018...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Sat, 02 March 2019, 09:42:19
Ok its March, no more CNY excuses. Hard to believe it was originally scheduled for November 2018...

exactly...
-I participated in this gb as my birthday present, thinking it will arrive near the date, then it was delayed,
-then they told us they will ship before christmas, but it got delayed again.
-then changed my mind and thought "maybe i can wait for them as mt new-year gift"=nope
-januaray->february passes by, then they told us they will try to ship before CNY=nope (haven't even packed them yet)
-now what? no official announcement, nor an update on zfrontier page, no email/message replies. honestly tho, i know both the company preparing or proxy are well-known so im not worried of getting scammed, but really tho they are acting exactly similar to how other scammers would do.
If I can't get them in March, I will have to find with bank or etc. for refund  :mad:
(P.S I hope there's some kinda rating system so we could rate them with stars or numbers according to their services, so i can give a 1 out of 5 star for them)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 03 March 2019, 17:52:29
Ok its March, no more CNY excuses. Hard to believe it was originally scheduled for November 2018...

Most studios delay, so it is not uncommon to say the very least. Part of the motivation for me to work with AirPotter from Gray Studio with my own project is that he pushes hard and rarely delays.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 03 March 2019, 18:08:43
Ok its March, no more CNY excuses. Hard to believe it was originally scheduled for November 2018...

Most studios delay, so it is not uncommon to say the very least. Part of the motivation for me to work with AirPotter from Gray Studio with my own project is that he pushes hard and rarely delays.

Yeah, it's not my first group buy so I understand it's not uncommon. Even so, I refuse to just accept it as it is every time that it happens. Until the day that a group buy puts in a disclaimer saying that they will delay, give 0 communication and sometimes outright lie, I will continue to join for the boards I want and I'm going to continue to post complaints/requests for updates. The fact that this is even supposedly the unspoken standard is not a good enough excuse imo.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 03 March 2019, 18:50:17
Ok its March, no more CNY excuses. Hard to believe it was originally scheduled for November 2018...

Most studios delay, so it is not uncommon to say the very least. Part of the motivation for me to work with AirPotter from Gray Studio with my own project is that he pushes hard and rarely delays.

Yeah, it's not my first group buy so I understand it's not uncommon. Even so, I refuse to just accept it as it is every time that it happens. Until the day that a group buy puts in a disclaimer saying that they will delay, give 0 communication and sometimes outright lie, I will continue to join for the boards I want and I'm going to continue to post complaints/requests for updates. The fact that this is even supposedly the unspoken standard is not a good enough excuse imo.

Totally agree with you.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Sun, 03 March 2019, 18:57:10
Ok its March, no more CNY excuses. Hard to believe it was originally scheduled for November 2018...

Most studios delay, so it is not uncommon to say the very least. Part of the motivation for me to work with AirPotter from Gray Studio with my own project is that he pushes hard and rarely delays.

Yeah, it's not my first group buy so I understand it's not uncommon. Even so, I refuse to just accept it as it is every time that it happens. Until the day that a group buy puts in a disclaimer saying that they will delay, give 0 communication and sometimes outright lie, I will continue to join for the boards I want and I'm going to continue to post complaints/requests for updates. The fact that this is even supposedly the unspoken standard is not a good enough excuse imo.

I'm in on the Southpaw65 GB. I joined that back in november 2017 and it still has not shipped yet. The difference is that there's communication there from the runner. zFrontier is not doing a good job here at all. But I did find this:


https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-mar-2-2019 (https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-mar-2-2019)
"Several problems detected. Colors weren't accurate, some plates have wrong cutouts and missing some plates. We are packing them and shipping them back to EVE to fix the problems."
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1674/0405/files/WeChat_Image_20190301200431_grande.jpg?v=1551441932)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 03 March 2019, 21:20:30
Alex did get back to me last Friday mentioning problems with the kits, like machining mistakes. I asked for more details and maybe photos to show the mistakes, but I haven't heard back from him again. So yeah, more delays and I apologize for this. I'm waiting for more details to share.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 03 March 2019, 21:41:16
Alex did get back to me last Friday mentioning problems with the kits, like machining mistakes. I asked for more details and maybe photos to show the mistakes, but I haven't heard back from him again. So yeah, more delays and I apologize for this. I'm waiting for more details to share.

Hope they get fixed soon. It's a nice design.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: mathleejj on Sun, 03 March 2019, 22:14:09
Any news on Kira S? Wonder if the Kira S GB will ever open on en.zfrontier...

btw that light lavender purple looks nice.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 03 March 2019, 23:11:20
I guess with the delay it gives them time to open it, but idk if they can handle the workload. Bummer to hear about the colors, but at least we got something from them
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: distracteddev on Sun, 03 March 2019, 23:15:55
With PayPal buyer protection running out in a month for me, I think I’ll be doing the smart thing and requesting a refund. Just can’t take the risk with so many mishaps and lack of any commitments or timelines.

I’d maybe wait if we were all getting back weights, but this is too much trouble for a pared-down product/design


Sorry thesiscamper!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 00:10:09
With PayPal buyer protection running out in a month for me, I think I’ll be doing the smart thing and requesting a refund. Just can’t take the risk with so many mishaps and lack of any commitments or timelines.

I’d maybe wait if we were all getting back weights, but this is too much trouble for a pared-down product/design


Sorry thesiscamper!

I think it’s fair. 6 months should be enough time.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 04 March 2019, 01:29:35
With PayPal buyer protection running out in a month for me, I think I’ll be doing the smart thing and requesting a refund. Just can’t take the risk with so many mishaps and lack of any commitments or timelines.

I’d maybe wait if we were all getting back weights, but this is too much trouble for a pared-down product/design


Sorry thesiscamper!

Wait, are we not getting back weights?

edit:nvm
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Mon, 04 March 2019, 01:53:51
Ok its March, no more CNY excuses. Hard to believe it was originally scheduled for November 2018...

Most studios delay, so it is not uncommon to say the very least. Part of the motivation for me to work with AirPotter from Gray Studio with my own project is that he pushes hard and rarely delays.

Yeah, it's not my first group buy so I understand it's not uncommon. Even so, I refuse to just accept it as it is every time that it happens. Until the day that a group buy puts in a disclaimer saying that they will delay, give 0 communication and sometimes outright lie, I will continue to join for the boards I want and I'm going to continue to post complaints/requests for updates. The fact that this is even supposedly the unspoken standard is not a good enough excuse imo.

I'm in on the Southpaw65 GB. I joined that back in november 2017 and it still has not shipped yet. The difference is that there's communication there from the runner. zFrontier is not doing a good job here at all. But I did find this:


https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-mar-2-2019 (https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-mar-2-2019)
"Several problems detected. Colors weren't accurate, some plates have wrong cutouts and missing some plates. We are packing them and shipping them back to EVE to fix the problems."
Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1674/0405/files/WeChat_Image_20190301200431_grande.jpg?v=1551441932)


that's weird, since i heard they had issue with color and plates since january or earlier if i remember it right.... and if they were to ship back to eve now, then how much longer would it delay? lmao
i am checking on my paypal and i found out i paid with my credit card instead of paypal, please refund me, i don't wanna waste my time for this board any longer. And I also do believe that i have the right to claim refund for a board that hasn't even been officially updated by zfrontier until two days ago, and who doesn't want to communicate with their participant.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 04 March 2019, 05:13:56
With PayPal buyer protection running out in a month for me, I think I’ll be doing the smart thing and requesting a refund. Just can’t take the risk with so many mishaps and lack of any commitments or timelines.

I’d maybe wait if we were all getting back weights, but this is too much trouble for a pared-down product/design


Sorry thesiscamper!

No need to apologize, and sorry it had to be like this.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vafan on Mon, 04 March 2019, 09:41:41
I've joined XDA Oblique and Kira via Zf. Both of them delayed and lacked information. Hmmm
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: enfer on Mon, 04 March 2019, 10:57:13
Ha! Back to EVE???? Now?
Why didn't check them in February?

So how long we have to wait for they fix that?
Six months? Again?

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Mon, 04 March 2019, 11:23:38
     since zfrontier wouldn't even look at our emails, could anyone of you organizer contact zfrontier regarding maybe something like a survey where people could choose either to receive them now not minding about the color problem or refunds? i dont wanna just wait another moment not knowing how they are going or how long it will be delayed for, to be honest, i have lost all my trust with you organizers or zfrontier, I no longer wanna trust my money with you guys.

     They should have checked on this earlier and have made a move back then. I don't understanad their attitude of updating like that, they could have informed us earlier, but what did they even do? they told us they will ship before christmas, then without any kinda updates, 2 months has passed. then they told us they will ship before CNY, but they haven't even packed our boards yet. And they are bringing up the issue with plate and color now that has CNY passed??? wtf is wrong with them huh?
the way they are doing it now and informing us that they are shipping back to EVE only tells us that they have solely used CNY as an excuse to unnecessary delays. All I can say is both the keyboard designer/organizer and zfrontier is irresponsible. I don't know if it is even possible, but I will have a talk with my bank first regarding the money being handed to some wrong company.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 12:29:21
I've joined XDA Oblique and Kira via Zf. Both of them delayed and lacked information. Hmmm

I have heard (from a trusted chinese friend who is deep in the keeb circle) zfrontier made late payments to manufacturers, partly why these are delayed.

I cannot be sure of that as this is not my first hand information, but i really hope this situation is sorted out soon. I have bought quite a lot of products from zfrontier, and no issues so far.

My suggestion is to not dispute through paypal, this might create negative impact on their paypal account, and affect more people.

Actually I know the CEO of ZF, if you guys really want to organize some sort of survey and want someone to pass the information, I can be the messenger.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 04 March 2019, 13:03:22
I've joined XDA Oblique and Kira via Zf. Both of them delayed and lacked information. Hmmm

I have heard (from a trusted chinese friend who is deep in the keeb circle) zfrontier made late payments to manufacturers, partly why these are delayed.

I cannot be sure of that as this is not my first hand information, but i really hope this situation is sorted out soon. I have bought quite a lot of products from zfrontier, and no issues so far.

My suggestion is to not dispute through paypal, this might create negative impact on their paypal account, and affect more people.

Actually I know the CEO of ZF, if you guys really want to organize some sort of survey and want someone to pass the information, I can be the messenger.

So basically they shouldn't open paypal disputes and be locked into an uncertain GB because zFrontier made irresponsible decisions with zero communication on a product that we were owed information, if not the full product, months ago? That's a pretty terrible suggestion. I think anyone who wants to bail at this point should and those who stick in it, should still be owed what they paid for in good fashion. It's not like they were legitimately incapable. For some reason, the Chinese GB got priority over original backers and a lot of people already have their fully functional units. So why is it that only the international ones are having issues?

Also, having a survey passed on to the CEO would be very nice and I do appreciate you offering that. However, it's still a poor substitute for an actual company member addressing us directly and truthfully.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 13:06:42
I've joined XDA Oblique and Kira via Zf. Both of them delayed and lacked information. Hmmm

I have heard (from a trusted chinese friend who is deep in the keeb circle) zfrontier made late payments to manufacturers, partly why these are delayed.

I cannot be sure of that as this is not my first hand information, but i really hope this situation is sorted out soon. I have bought quite a lot of products from zfrontier, and no issues so far.

My suggestion is to not dispute through paypal, this might create negative impact on their paypal account, and affect more people.

Actually I know the CEO of ZF, if you guys really want to organize some sort of survey and want someone to pass the information, I can be the messenger.

So basically they shouldn't open paypal disputes and be locked into an uncertain GB because zFrontier made irresponsible decisions with zero communication on a product that we were owed information, if not the full product, months ago? That's a pretty terrible suggestion. I think anyone who wants to bail at this point should and those who stick in it, should still be owed what they paid for in good fashion. It's not like they were legitimately incapable. For some reason, the Chinese GB got priority over original backers and a lot of people already have their fully functional units. So why is it that only the international ones are having issues?

Also, having a survey passed on to the CEO would be very nice and I do appreciate you offering that. However, it's still a poor substitute for an actual company member addressing us directly and truthfully.

I totally agree. Actually I rethink about this, maybe some disputes will be a wake up call for them.
They should have dedicated staff for international business
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 04 March 2019, 13:07:35
Just throwing this out there: The PayPal protection window of 6 months is only relevant for opening claims, once you have opened that claim, it is irrelevant if the protection runs out during investigation/resolve. So you still have time left to wait this out and see if something happens in the next 2-3 weeks. I personally open disputes at 1 week before PP protection runs out.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: elmo on Mon, 04 March 2019, 13:14:29
So according to the latest update on zF there are even more problems with the board.
Multiple plates with wrong cutouts or completely missing plates.

They said that they are now sending the problematic boards back to EVE for fixing...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 March 2019, 14:52:00
So according to the latest update on zF there are even more problems with the board.
Multiple plates with wrong cutouts or completely missing plates.

They said that they are now sending the problematic boards back to EVE for fixing...

Perhaps EVE is taking too many new things these days (or could be authors' oversight). EVE is typically very high quality. Heard the Percent Canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Tue, 05 March 2019, 00:16:02
So according to the latest update on zF there are even more problems with the board.
Multiple plates with wrong cutouts or completely missing plates.

They said that they are now sending the problematic boards back to EVE for fixing...

Perhaps EVE is taking too many new things these days (or could be authors' oversight). EVE is typically very high quality. Heard the Percent Canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing.

even the "percent canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing" kinda statement makes me mad at this point LMAO. They can't even handle their previous keyboard properly and it is troubling a lot and what made them think they can handle another board? I'm just hoping they won't use and give priority working on percent studio's boards first and the kira would be delayed due to that ****ty reason. Actually, instead of surveys, could you tell the CEO of zf that I need refund for this GB since i haven't participated with paypal, but instead, a debit card, and I want refund due to zf's ****ty attitude. Both EVE and ZF is irresponsible and stupid honestly, they can't handle a single gb and how come they planning to organize that huge amount of them and still want to get more?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 March 2019, 00:26:26
So according to the latest update on zF there are even more problems with the board.
Multiple plates with wrong cutouts or completely missing plates.

They said that they are now sending the problematic boards back to EVE for fixing...

Perhaps EVE is taking too many new things these days (or could be authors' oversight). EVE is typically very high quality. Heard the Percent Canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing.

even the "percent canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing" kinda statement makes me mad at this point LMAO. They can't even handle their previous keyboard properly and it is troubling a lot and what made them think they can handle another board? I'm just hoping they won't use and give priority working on percent studio's boards first and the kira would be delayed due to that ****ty reason. Actually, instead of surveys, could you tell the CEO of zf that I need refund for this GB since i haven't participated with paypal, but instead, a debit card, and I want refund due to zf's ****ty attitude. Both EVE and ZF is irresponsible and stupid honestly, they can't handle a single gb and how come they planning to organize that huge amount of them and still want to get more?

Sorry man don’t be upset, I’m just a messenger trying to convey information I am aware of.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Tue, 05 March 2019, 00:40:37
I've joined XDA Oblique and Kira via Zf. Both of them delayed and lacked information. Hmmm

I have heard (from a trusted chinese friend who is deep in the keeb circle) zfrontier made late payments to manufacturers, partly why these are delayed.

I cannot be sure of that as this is not my first hand information, but i really hope this situation is sorted out soon. I have bought quite a lot of products from zfrontier, and no issues so far.

My suggestion is to not dispute through paypal, this might create negative impact on their paypal account, and affect more people.

Actually I know the CEO of ZF, if you guys really want to organize some sort of survey and want someone to pass the information, I can be the messenger.

I have bought quote a lot of stuff from zFrontier as well.  No issue so far.  They are bad with communications, particular on the Eng side.

I checked the PayPal transaction for this GB, and I have until 3/31 for buyer protection.  I'm going to wait and see what happens say 3/20 then decide then what to do.

With this GB, we really could use more info.  Some CNY GB participants got their boards.  I vaguely recall some boards were sent back to EVE before.  So, the update posted doesn't make sense - probably why some are asking if that's old news.

A lot of people are going to get skittish toward the end of March, so it's better for zFrontier to act as well.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vafan on Wed, 06 March 2019, 03:15:40
Well, another story:

https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/ (https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Wed, 06 March 2019, 08:46:43
Well, another story:

https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/ (https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/)

just as i thought.... I have been hearing issues with how zfrontier handles their GB, for instance my friends who have participated in one of the keycap or keyboard group buy from zfrontier are also complaining their project has been delayed....
I really feel like we need to work together to wake them up. Maybe they think it's a keyboard business and they are going easy on the schedule and handling...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 06 March 2019, 10:54:44
Well, another story:

https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/ (https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/)

just as i thought.... I have been hearing issues with how zfrontier handles their GB, for instance my friends who have participated in one of the keycap or keyboard group buy from zfrontier are also complaining their project has been delayed....
I really feel like we need to work together to wake them up. Maybe they think it's a keyboard business and they are going easy on the schedule and handling...

But this falls pretty hard on EVE also. Do they have no quality control? Colors not matching, messed up plates and still just shipping it out. How do you ship out 2 (or more?) different shades of Pearl Blue for example, without noticing?

Edit: This may be a shortsighted reply. We don't know what happens behind the scenes and what problems arise. But that's what happens when there's no feedback whatsoever. Frustration. No idea if the latest project update on their page is current or old news either.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Wed, 06 March 2019, 12:45:32
Well, another story:

https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/ (https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/)

just as i thought.... I have been hearing issues with how zfrontier handles their GB, for instance my friends who have participated in one of the keycap or keyboard group buy from zfrontier are also complaining their project has been delayed....
I really feel like we need to work together to wake them up. Maybe they think it's a keyboard business and they are going easy on the schedule and handling...

But this falls pretty hard on EVE also. Do they have no quality control? Colors not matching, messed up plates and still just shipping it out. How do you ship out 2 (or more?) different shades of Pearl Blue for example, without noticing?

Edit: This may be a shortsighted reply. We don't know what happens behind the scenes and what problems arise. But that's what happens when there's no feedback whatsoever. Frustration. No idea if the latest project update on their page is current or old news either.

I'm curious of that part as well... I mean come on, EVE is kinda well-known in this community and their boards aren't cheap either, quality control is the most basic stuff... I am shocked by the photo, how can there be two completely different color for the same "pearl blue" and "violet".. these chinese companies really seems to lack communication skills. They are trying to make living out of international buyer, then they should have prepared with the following necessary staff or skills in order to successfully manage.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 06 March 2019, 13:39:40
Well, another story:

https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/ (https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/)

just as i thought.... I have been hearing issues with how zfrontier handles their GB, for instance my friends who have participated in one of the keycap or keyboard group buy from zfrontier are also complaining their project has been delayed....
I really feel like we need to work together to wake them up. Maybe they think it's a keyboard business and they are going easy on the schedule and handling...

They are under-staffed, and not well versed in the international community really.
I feel unless they hire some good people who know keyboard and also fluent in English, or maybe work with the community in a different way, it's not going to get any better.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 06 March 2019, 13:43:26
So according to the latest update on zF there are even more problems with the board.
Multiple plates with wrong cutouts or completely missing plates.

They said that they are now sending the problematic boards back to EVE for fixing...

Perhaps EVE is taking too many new things these days (or could be authors' oversight). EVE is typically very high quality. Heard the Percent Canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing.

even the "percent canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing" kinda statement makes me mad at this point LMAO. They can't even handle their previous keyboard properly and it is troubling a lot and what made them think they can handle another board? I'm just hoping they won't use and give priority working on percent studio's boards first and the kira would be delayed due to that ****ty reason. Actually, instead of surveys, could you tell the CEO of zf that I need refund for this GB since i haven't participated with paypal, but instead, a debit card, and I want refund due to zf's ****ty attitude. Both EVE and ZF is irresponsible and stupid honestly, they can't handle a single gb and how come they planning to organize that huge amount of them and still want to get more?

For what it's worth, I talked to Percent Boss, and he indicated to me that the recent Canoe sale production will not be affected and likely will ship on schedule (with possibility of a slight delay).

I don't actually know why Kira has so many issues, whose responsibility it is (it could either by EVE's, ZF's, or the designer's, we don't know), but I haven't really heard a lot about these problems from the China side, and the board wasn't as popular as on GH either.

I think if PayPal protection is going to expire, whoever took your money, is the one you should contact and deal with now. So probably ZF. One suggestion for GB runners it that if more than 6 months is needed, they can refund and recharge to extend the paypal protection for buyers.

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 06 March 2019, 14:08:28
So according to the latest update on zF there are even more problems with the board.
Multiple plates with wrong cutouts or completely missing plates.

They said that they are now sending the problematic boards back to EVE for fixing...

Perhaps EVE is taking too many new things these days (or could be authors' oversight). EVE is typically very high quality. Heard the Percent Canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing.

even the "percent canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing" kinda statement makes me mad at this point LMAO. They can't even handle their previous keyboard properly and it is troubling a lot and what made them think they can handle another board? I'm just hoping they won't use and give priority working on percent studio's boards first and the kira would be delayed due to that ****ty reason. Actually, instead of surveys, could you tell the CEO of zf that I need refund for this GB since i haven't participated with paypal, but instead, a debit card, and I want refund due to zf's ****ty attitude. Both EVE and ZF is irresponsible and stupid honestly, they can't handle a single gb and how come they planning to organize that huge amount of them and still want to get more?

For what it's worth, I talked to Percent Boss, and he indicated to me that the recent Canoe sale production will not be affected and likely will ship on schedule (with possibility of a slight delay).

I don't actually know why Kira has so many issues, whose responsibility it is (it could either by EVE's, ZF's, or the designer's, we don't know), but I haven't really heard a lot about these problems from the China side, and the board wasn't as popular as on GH either.

I think if PayPal protection is going to expire, whoever took your money, is the one you should contact and deal with now. So probably ZF.

I've got 20 more days of PayPal protection, but that hardly feels enough when they were supposedly on track back in december. I've already been refunded (along with a bunch of you in here) for the board once because a few others didn't pay up.

Right now I'm at a point where I want the board more than the money. Don't want to give up on this. Will be oh so satisfying once it actually arrives! :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 06 March 2019, 14:26:25
I would also prefer to not be refunded again and have the board. The only thing I can think zF can do is communicate more and re send the invoices so the PP period extends. Highly doubt they would be interested in doing that.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Wed, 06 March 2019, 14:33:15
I’ll echo the same feelings. Want the board more than the money, and zfrontier should be more regular and transparent with updates. Everyone here understands there will be mistakes, delays and all.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 06 March 2019, 14:48:03
I would also prefer to not be refunded again and have the board. The only thing I can think zF can do is communicate more and re send the invoices so the PP period extends. Highly doubt they would be interested in doing that.

They could probably do refund and recharge. Others have done it. Just adding paypal protection.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 06 March 2019, 16:41:59
As much as I have expressed my discontent with this group buy, I would also like to receive the board more than the refund. However, at this point, it would also be nice if they could at least make one post in this thread, just one post where they share an honest update and apologize for their absolutely scummy behavior.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 06 March 2019, 17:35:11
I hesitate posting here to say I have no real updates but we're in this mess because of lack of communication. Still no news, I've been asking other people to help me ping zF, I've left messages telling them about your frustration, and I hope they get back to me about the buy.

Tell me if I should post here to tell you about lack of updates, or to just post when there's actual news.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 06 March 2019, 18:09:44
I hesitate posting here to say I have no real updates but we're in this mess because of lack of communication. Still no news, I've been asking other people to help me ping zF, I've left messages telling them about your frustration, and I hope they get back to me about the buy.

Tell me if I should post here to tell you about lack of updates, or to just post when there's actual news.

It’s nothing you’re doing wrong. zFrontier are the ones mistreating the buy which is unfortunate. I’m sure you’re doing what you can
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: yap68 on Thu, 07 March 2019, 04:58:12
Made a few purchase on zF since last June and all of them encountered massive delays. I have the patience but don't want to tolerate this kind of zero-communication service anymore.

Already filed my claim through Paypal and see what will happen. I can live without this keyboard though it is nice to have. Wish you guys luck.

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 07 March 2019, 07:26:21
I hesitate posting here to say I have no real updates but we're in this mess because of lack of communication. Still no news, I've been asking other people to help me ping zF, I've left messages telling them about your frustration, and I hope they get back to me about the buy.

Tell me if I should post here to tell you about lack of updates, or to just post when there's actual news.

I think it's nice when you chime in, whether or not there's any real news. It shows you're engaged in the GB (even though you're not running it). Sometimes it's enough getting an update saying there's no new info. Keep up the good work and designs!

Unfortunate that we are were we are with this GB, but eventually I'm sure it will get fulfilled. Not been in the hobby for too long, but you sure need patience for it.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 07 March 2019, 10:06:54
I hesitate posting here to say I have no real updates but we're in this mess because of lack of communication. Still no news, I've been asking other people to help me ping zF, I've left messages telling them about your frustration, and I hope they get back to me about the buy.

Tell me if I should post here to tell you about lack of updates, or to just post when there's actual news.

Man, sorry to know this. I've heard some similar things regarding zf's lack of response. I hope they get their things together soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 07 March 2019, 10:32:18
I hesitate posting here to say I have no real updates but we're in this mess because of lack of communication. Still no news, I've been asking other people to help me ping zF, I've left messages telling them about your frustration, and I hope they get back to me about the buy.

Tell me if I should post here to tell you about lack of updates, or to just post when there's actual news.

Your updates are extremely appreciated. If anything, it's probably the only thing keeping me sane in this group buy and probably the only reason why I'll stick through it until the end.  Thanks a lot for the input and effort.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 08 March 2019, 10:26:18
Thank you for the patience guys. A vendor was able to talk to zF and was told that they (zF) will reply to people. Of course this doesn't mean much at the moment, but I do hope it will be soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 08 March 2019, 11:50:11
Thank you for the patience guys. A vendor was able to talk to zF and was told that they (zF) will reply to people. Of course this doesn't mean much at the moment, but I do hope it will be soon.

Any updates will be good, even just how long people need to wait, so they can adjust their expectations :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: jumpmineralwater on Sat, 09 March 2019, 08:54:59
I hesitate posting here to say I have no real updates but we're in this mess because of lack of communication. Still no news, I've been asking other people to help me ping zF, I've left messages telling them about your frustration, and I hope they get back to me about the buy.

Tell me if I should post here to tell you about lack of updates, or to just post when there's actual news.

Thank you for all the updates. Like others in this GB, I appreciate any information you can provide, even if the update is that there are no updates.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: nasp on Sat, 09 March 2019, 13:16:15
So..... whatever happened to the Kira numpad? Did that one actually get cancelled?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 11 March 2019, 03:45:40
With the help of ilouis_07 I was able to have a brief chat with EVE and here's what I got:

-he can't reach zFrontier
-he is aware of the issues but needs to know how many parts need to be replaced
-I asked about the numpad but he probably got busy already and wasn't able to reply

I've attached an image showing the machining mistake, the flipped logo. The original file I sent didn't have this logo and EVE had it added. He said the easiest solution, of course, is if the buyer accepts the plate as is. I still need to talk with zF though.

edit:
Please note that Louis served as the translator, I had to wait for a reply and then have Louis translate it, and vice versa.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Choppersuey on Mon, 11 March 2019, 04:09:24
Thanks a lot for the update! I for one am totally OK with the flipped logo on the plate, especially if it speeds up the whole process.

So are wrong anodisation of some boards and the logo on the plate the only issues?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Mon, 11 March 2019, 04:21:48
Same, totally don't mind the mistake on the plate.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Mon, 11 March 2019, 04:38:16
Seems like zFrontier is juggling more than they can handle then, if they don't even respond to EVE.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Hamel on Mon, 11 March 2019, 04:40:54
Thanks a lot for the update! I for one am totally OK with the flipped logo on the plate, especially if it speeds up the whole process.

So are wrong anodisation of some boards and the logo on the plate the only issues?
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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: elmo on Mon, 11 March 2019, 06:27:58
since the logo isn't visible from the outside I really wouldn't mind that
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 11 March 2019, 07:27:01
Don’t really care about the plate either, gonna be using something else anyways :p
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: ullr on Mon, 11 March 2019, 07:51:27
Logo is nbd to me
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Mon, 11 March 2019, 08:06:00
oh man at this point the only option we got will be to stick with the flipped logo I guess... geez it sucks that zfrontier never respond to anyone like wtf they even doing lmao. if they can't handle too much, then they shouldn't receive those offers to start with. if you are able to reach zfrontier, i definitely want to ask for refund tho, if not, i will just stick with the flipped logo on the plate. but how are you gonna do about the anodizing issue? they seriously off like having two totally different colors when they are supposed to be a single one (pearl blue and violet)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: enfer on Mon, 11 March 2019, 11:31:55
I really don't care about the mistake, i want to received board right now also.
But who are in article is not only the people of all participants. If you willing to accept the mistake, should be done after survey or other reaction.

I hope to be settled this problem be fair way to all participants. 

And I wonder why they didn't send it to 'thisiscamper' before change the plate design?
If they did, it won't be.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Mon, 11 March 2019, 12:04:09
Would prefer to get the cutout fixed, though I don't mind if it remains flipped. here's to hoping for a polycarb KIRA in the future.

I also kind of doubt accepting the plates as they are will speed things up significantly. From zf's last updates some boards were missing plates altogether, and the case colours seem like the bigger issue.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 11 March 2019, 13:06:35
I really don't care about the mistake, i want to received board right now also.
But who are in article is not only the people of all participants. If you willing to accept the mistake, should be done after survey or other reaction.

I hope to be settled this problem be fair way to all participants. 

And I wonder why they didn't send it to 'thisiscamper' before change the plate design?
If they did, it won't be.

They changed a lot. Including the layout of the plate (iso)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 11 March 2019, 22:17:34
same boat - dont care about the logo, I just want the board
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 11 March 2019, 22:30:05
Numpad update from EVE:

Numpad production is finished, but he's waiting for zF for the order list. I'm not sure how he decided on the colors without the order list. I've attached a photo of some parts he shared.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 11 March 2019, 22:48:33
Numpad update from EVE:

Numpad production is finished, but he's waiting for zF for the order list. I'm not sure how he decided on the colors without the order list. I've attached a photo of some parts he shared.

Nice colors!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 11 March 2019, 23:03:43
Numpad update from EVE:

Numpad production is finished, but he's waiting for zF for the order list. I'm not sure how he decided on the colors without the order list. I've attached a photo of some parts he shared.

Maybe that’s only for the Chinese gb ?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 11 March 2019, 23:04:14
couldnt care less about the plate, i wont be able to see it any way. as long as it fits and all the switches fit.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 11 March 2019, 23:05:15
Well gonna guess no numpad for us. nice. looks like the Chinese participants ones i bet.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 11 March 2019, 23:58:42
EVE said the numpads are for both international and China.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: mustcode on Tue, 12 March 2019, 11:43:13
Logo is fine, Kilo sounds like a pretty good keyboard name :P
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 12 March 2019, 11:45:12
Logo is fine, Kilo sounds like a pretty good keyboard name :P

Lol I thought the same thing but forgot to mention it
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: elDuderino on Tue, 12 March 2019, 13:30:56
EVE said the numpads are for both international and China.

I’m a bit confused. We are getting the numpad with this group buy? I thought we were expecting that to happen at a later date in a different buy for the international folks.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 12 March 2019, 16:19:36
EVE said the numpads are for both international and China.

I’m a bit confused. We are getting the numpad with this group buy? I thought we were expecting that to happen at a later date in a different buy for the international folks.

Maybe EVE made in one batch to reserve some to sell later. Always cheaper to make more in one batch
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: random0987 on Thu, 14 March 2019, 11:54:48
My PayPal claim has been, unfortunately, resolved in my favor. I sent a number of emails to zF generally and to Alex directly and have had no responses since November last year. I also sent messages through PayPal and discord encouraging zF to refund and re-invoice so that purchaser protection would not lapse. Was hoping that a PayPal dispute would encourage a response, and when it did not I escalated it to a claim which also received no response.

Was really hoping this would work out, I love Thesis’s designs and the numpad on this one sold me and I joined both GBs. My initial order with zF included hundreds of dollars in numpad plates and PCBs which I’m especially sad about and aggravated that I was never offered an opportunity to buy the numpad they go with.

If zF ever offers to sell me the keyboard I ordered, with whatever custom serial number I got if that was ever done, with numpad, and in the color I was told I would get and not some mixed up slop, I’d happily pay.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: nasp on Thu, 14 March 2019, 13:55:23
At this point, why are we not boycotting ZFrontier?


Are we suckers for punishment? Do we like enabling them? After all the silence are we optimistic that things will work out?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beerafffe1 on Fri, 15 March 2019, 07:21:44
I didn't go as far as opening a paypal dispute but did open a paypal 'case' which actually took zf about 2 weeks to respond to - here is the reply

Hello there,

Sorry for the late reply, we are keeping eyes on your order. Please no worries it will be shipped within 7 business days.

- zFrontier Inc, Friday, March 15, 2019 at 1:10:07 AM



The problem I have is the 6 month window closes on March 20th after which there is no recourse.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Fri, 15 March 2019, 07:33:45
EVE said the numpads are for both international and China.

I’m a bit confused. We are getting the numpad with this group buy? I thought we were expecting that to happen at a later date in a different buy for the international folks.

I've got the feeling that this was it. They probably forgot to post the "buy Kira S page" for the international site. With all the problems that have been going on I doubt they would start up the Kira S again for international buyers only. Maybe there were some international orders going through the chinese site and those are being shipped together with the rest of the TKL's? I may be completely wrong and all I can do is guess of course. I hope I'm wrong. I wanted that numpad too :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vafan on Fri, 15 March 2019, 10:30:48
Zf keeps opening new GB for many things!!!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 15 March 2019, 17:40:32
this is turning into quite a mess i just want my two boards and to be able to get matching num pads for bolth.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: enfer on Sat, 16 March 2019, 06:35:01
I didn't go as far as opening a paypal dispute but did open a paypal 'case' which actually took zf about 2 weeks to respond to - here is the reply

Hello there,

Sorry for the late reply, we are keeping eyes on your order. Please no worries it will be shipped within 7 business days.

- zFrontier Inc, Friday, March 15, 2019 at 1:10:07 AM



The problem I have is the 6 month window closes on March 20th after which there is no recourse.

Is that kira tkl? Or another order?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: random0987 on Sat, 16 March 2019, 06:42:47
I didn't go as far as opening a paypal dispute but did open a paypal 'case' which actually took zf about 2 weeks to respond to - here is the reply

Hello there,

Sorry for the late reply, we are keeping eyes on your order. Please no worries it will be shipped within 7 business days.

- zFrontier Inc, Friday, March 15, 2019 at 1:10:07 AM



The problem I have is the 6 month window closes on March 20th after which there is no recourse.

Is that kira tkl? Or another order?

As a point of reference, my Kira TLK PayPal “dispute” was open for two weeks without response, followed by 10 days without response as a “claim”.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: ullr on Sat, 16 March 2019, 14:00:06
I would have been looking into PayPal avenues of support but there are photos proving that they have the keyboards on hand, surely they can just... ship them?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: jaymaikan on Sat, 16 March 2019, 14:29:04
I would have been looking into PayPal avenues of support but there are photos proving that they have the keyboards on hand, surely they can just... ship them?

Tell that to Mech27.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sun, 17 March 2019, 01:11:25
Yeah - it’s been 3 months + since a reply from Alex. I sent him another email on Thursday and no replies. I’ll be submitting a claim as well... too many boards stuck up in this state right now. Grid600, tr60, and this now
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sun, 17 March 2019, 01:40:12
Does anyone here have an insid track on what’s up with zfrontier lately ? The complete absence of communication? Are they doing okay in China ?

I’m starting to get a bit antsy . I really want the board and I have had good experiences with zfrontier so far ( grid600 is an exception, and while I don5 blame them, the communication is pathetic).
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: HotRoderX on Sun, 17 March 2019, 01:59:40
Does anyone here have an insid track on what’s up with zfrontier lately ? The complete absence of communication? Are they doing okay in China ?

I’m starting to get a bit antsy . I really want the board and I have had good experiences with zfrontier so far ( grid600 is an exception, and while I don5 blame them, the communication is pathetic).

Please, take this with a grain of salt its like 4th hand information at this point. There was a Reddit post that basically said the following. They got in contact with someone higher up in ZFrontier and right now there really deep in over there heads. They took on to much work load and have had to many issues with to many group buys. Thats why the communication is complete garbage right now.

My guess is if thats true there most likely treading water and having to run new group buys to stay afloat. Which makes me wonder how long they can last.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: yap68 on Sun, 17 March 2019, 02:57:56
My claim has been approved since there isn't any reply from zF.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sun, 17 March 2019, 03:24:54
So as someone who’s never had to file a claim like this before, what happens ? Do you forfeit your order or can you still get zf to invoice you again if the board ever materializes ?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: //gainsborough on Sun, 17 March 2019, 11:08:44
So as someone who’s never had to file a claim like this before, what happens ? Do you forfeit your order or can you still get zf to invoice you again if the board ever materializes ?

I would actually like to know this as well.  Thinking of filing a claim with PayPal.  For someone who filed a claim successfully, what did you write in the dispute?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 17 March 2019, 22:40:43
Hi guys, talking with Alex of zF now. He’ll be sending out shipping invoices this week. If you don’t want the flipped logo or want a refund this is the time to contact him. There are about 60 kits that are ready to be shipped.

For those who want to know what happened without going into details, he had to go on a business trip then got sick. They hired another guy to help with shipping.

Edit:
EVE also said they have communicated with zF now.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: nasp on Sun, 17 March 2019, 23:39:55
Hi guys, talking with Alex of zF now. He’ll be sending out shipping invoices this week. If you don’t want the flipped logo or want a refund this is the time to contact him. There are about 60 kits that are ready to be shipped.

For those who want to know what happened without going into details, he had to go on a business trip then got sick. They hired another guy to help with shipping.

Edit:
EVE also said they have communicated with zF now.


And how would one contact him?

Also, any update on the keypads? Last I heard the only GB for it was in China, but I know there are a lot of international people that are interested in one as well.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 17 March 2019, 23:42:28
For those who want to know what happened without going into details, he had to go on a business trip then got sick. They hired another guy to help with shipping.

for anyone wondering, i was told the same thing when i got the RR shipping info

alex is zf's main point of contact for the west, and there isn't really anyone else because the company is fairly small. i suspect him getting sick is the reason everything got backed up at ZF, and it should go back to normal soon

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: enfer on Sun, 17 March 2019, 23:47:15
Hi guys, talking with Alex of zF now. He’ll be sending out shipping invoices this week. If you don’t want the flipped logo or want a refund this is the time to contact him. There are about 60 kits that are ready to be shipped.

For those who want to know what happened without going into details, he had to go on a business trip then got sick. They hired another guy to help with shipping.

Edit:
EVE also said they have communicated with zF now.

If i don't want the flipped logo, I have to do refund?
Or can wait for fix?

And how can we contact with him?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: yap68 on Mon, 18 March 2019, 00:10:02
Shipping soon? Have all the colours been fixed or zF just go ahead?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: //gainsborough on Mon, 18 March 2019, 01:10:00
Shipping soon? Have all the colours been fixed or zF just go ahead?

Also wondering about all the color discrepancies.  Can we request a pic from Alex of what we will be getting regarding color? 
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Mon, 18 March 2019, 01:37:21
Great news!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 18 March 2019, 04:05:06
This is awesome news actually - not Alex getting sick ofc, may he get better soon - but zf getting back on their feet for the western markets ...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Mon, 18 March 2019, 05:05:16
i know some of you are dying to get your kira tkl soon.... but i totally disagree with just receiving the board without minding the flipped logo. it is clearly the manufacturer+designer+EVE's fault for making the problem and I don't want to spend the exact same price of kira tkl which has an issue with the plate. the flipped logo is not professional at all.. so is Alex available for contact now? i want to contact him for refund.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 18 March 2019, 05:09:33
For those who need to reach Alex, please send an email to alex.lin at zfrontier dot com (I asked beforehand  if I should share the email here).

Thanks for the confirmation Puddsy.

As for the colors, most of the affected kits are Poseidon Blue, and some purple ones as far as I know. Pics of the color issues have been shared, I’m using my phone so it’s not convenient to post them again at the moment.

No the kits with issues have not been fixed yet, they will be sent back to EVE. Also please note Alex has lots of email to attend to, so it will take time to get to all of them.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 18 March 2019, 22:48:09
i know some of you are dying to get your kira tkl soon.... but i totally disagree with just receiving the board without minding the flipped logo. it is clearly the manufacturer+designer+EVE's fault for making the problem and I don't want to spend the exact same price of kira tkl which has an issue with the plate. the flipped logo is not professional at all.. so is Alex available for contact now? i want to contact him for refund.

If we are on this, then even bigger than the logo being flipped is that they added a logo at all. There are many many elements that were not part of the design from thesiscamper. The back plate ( and oh my god that font is so ugly ! I hope I can Dremel it ) was not part of it either, at least as it was announced in the IC.

Edit : I also have to say that all these changes were well meaning... like the machining time for the logo and the back plate ... zf/eve’s efforts were good, just poorly executed. ( omg that logo, I hope I can remove that, and there won5 be screwhols visible)

Now I consider boards like these artistic, if i just wanted a good tkl, I’d get kbd8x. So messing around with the design is poor form. I was actually excited  about the backplate until I found that it had branded no and I saw the awful font. Kudos to thesiscamper for not making a row about this...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 19 March 2019, 02:03:29
i know some of you are dying to get your kira tkl soon.... but i totally disagree with just receiving the board without minding the flipped logo. it is clearly the manufacturer+designer+EVE's fault for making the problem and I don't want to spend the exact same price of kira tkl which has an issue with the plate. the flipped logo is not professional at all.. so is Alex available for contact now? i want to contact him for refund.

If we are on this, then even bigger than the logo being flipped is that they added a logo at all. There are many many elements that were not part of the design from thesiscamper. The back plate ( and oh my god that font is so ugly ! I hope I can Dremel it ) was not part of it either, at least as it was announced in the IC.

Edit : I also have to say that all these changes were well meaning... like the machining time for the logo and the back plate ... zf/eve’s efforts were good, just poorly executed. ( omg that logo, I hope I can remove that, and there won5 be screwhols visible)

Now I consider boards like these artistic, if i just wanted a good tkl, I’d get kbd8x. So messing around with the design is poor form. I was actually excited  about the backplate until I found that it had branded no and I saw the awful font. Kudos to thesiscamper for not making a row about this...

As some of you remember, the international and China buys were supposed to be separate, including the factories. After the cancellation we went with EVE for all kits. The original design didn’t have the backplate, but China side wanted that from the start. This is also why China orders shipped first, EVE started manufacturing immediately for their buy, international orders were just added later.

Edit:
Here’s one of the last prototypes made in the other factory (1 of 2). It has a 5mm plate and C3’s RGB PCB.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 20 March 2019, 00:09:40
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 20 March 2019, 00:50:38
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.

Right. You don’t know the whole story though, and you might have done better but it is what it is. Hindsight is 20/20.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 20 March 2019, 01:13:40
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.

Right. You don’t know the whole story though, and you might have done better but it is what it is. Hindsight is 20/20.

Definitely not your problem, as a designer your GBs are typically run by other professional runners.

I just couldn’t quite get the rationale why Chinese buyers should get priority and lower pricing, despite paying no PayPal fees and negligible shipping fees. Maybe I’m in the States for too long :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Wed, 20 March 2019, 01:29:44
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.

Right. You don’t know the whole story though, and you might have done better but it is what it is. Hindsight is 20/20.

Definitely not your problem, as a designer your GBs are typically run by other professional runners.

I just couldn’t quite get the rationale why Chinese buyers should get priority and lower pricing, despite paying no PayPal fees and negligible shipping fees. Maybe I’m in the States for too long :)

I compared the Chinese and Worldwide (?) GBs before participating.  And I decided to go with the Worldwide since the price (sans shipping) was pretty much same and the back weight was of little difference to me.
What was confusing and surprising later was the manufacturing was separate and timeline were significantly different.
I think most Worldwide participants were expecting shipment shortly after Chinese GBs.  Initially, folks were hoping for pre-Chinese New Year shipment, then right after-CNY, so on.

Don't mean this as criticism.  Just pointing out where expectations started to get out of sync.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 20 March 2019, 01:30:27
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.

Right. You don’t know the whole story though, and you might have done better but it is what it is. Hindsight is 20/20.

Definitely not your problem, as a designer your GBs are typically run by other professional runners.

I just couldn’t quite get the rationale why Chinese buyers should get priority and lower pricing, despite paying no PayPal fees and negligible shipping fees. Maybe I’m in the States for too long :)

As far as I know EVE controlled the pricing, I definitely didn’t have any say on that and a lot of things like colors. Maybe it should’ve stayed cancelled, but people were interested in getting the buy brought back and zFrontier’s offer to help made it seem like a good idea. EVE’s samples were already made and shown so people knew what to expect before joining, so I didn’t think the external changes and additions were an issue.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:22:48
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.

yes sir mr i own 11 canoes
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:47:02
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.

yes sir mr i own 11 canoes

Didn’t you have ins with SuperVan as well?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:56:33
i for one am happy that the GB opportunity came back at all.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 20 March 2019, 02:59:05
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.

yes sir mr i own 11 canoes

Didn’t you have ins with SuperVan as well?

lmao **** no i think he has me blocked
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 20 March 2019, 03:01:56
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.

yes sir mr i own 11 canoes

Didn’t you have ins with SuperVan as well?

lmao **** no i think he has me blocked

That makes sense lol, but I was about speaking mr 11 canoes
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 20 March 2019, 03:11:02
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.

yes sir mr i own 11 canoes

Didn’t you have ins with SuperVan as well?

lmao **** no i think he has me blocked

That makes sense lol, but I was about speaking mr 11 canoes

aha, it was unclear

carry on
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Wed, 20 March 2019, 09:14:49
i know alex needs some time to get everything managed and etc. but, so what now? i already sent him an email since i don't want to purchase a keyboard with issue but of course im never getting any replies. so if i do stick with the keyboard, when are you guys shipping them out? it's damn april guys. are they gonna make excuses like "oh we need time to figure them out so  we will ship them out after april fools..." <- this literally can either be one of the funniest meme or the worst.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Eric404atx on Wed, 20 March 2019, 09:49:29
I thought I read somewhere that Zf was shipping these out this week. Is that still the case?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Wed, 20 March 2019, 21:53:10
I thought I read somewhere that Zf was shipping these out this week. Is that still the case?

He’ll be sending out shipping invoices this week.

Invoice this week.  Unclear when shipping will be.  Hopely real soon.
Dilemma is what to do with PayPal protection.  I'm inclined to get the ball rolling on that.  I appreciate more communication but it's little short of giving me enough confidence.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Eric404atx on Thu, 21 March 2019, 06:44:36
I thought I read somewhere that Zf was shipping these out this week. Is that still the case?

He’ll be sending out shipping invoices this week.

Invoice this week.  Unclear when shipping will be.  Hopely real soon.
Dilemma is what to do with PayPal protection.  I'm inclined to get the ball rolling on that.  I appreciate more communication but it's little short of giving me enough confidence.
What is a shipping invoice? Doesn't shipping cost get paid when the GB was purchased months ago?

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: elmo on Thu, 21 March 2019, 09:53:10
What is a shipping invoice? Doesn't shipping cost get paid when the GB was purchased months ago?

nope. shipping is never included in gb's since the runner can't know how much the shipping for every board will be.
zF's page says that very clearly on every gb page.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Eric404atx on Thu, 21 March 2019, 09:57:16
What is a shipping invoice? Doesn't shipping cost get paid when the GB was purchased months ago?

nope. shipping is never included in gb's since the runner can't know how much the shipping for every board will be.
zF's page says that very clearly on every gb page.

Welp thats on me. lol. I have never purchased anything from zF that was a GB before and this will probably be my last seeing how this fiasco went.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Eric404atx on Sat, 23 March 2019, 08:09:48
Any update since its now the end of the week with no shipping invoice here?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: //gainsborough on Sat, 23 March 2019, 16:10:04
Has anyone actually heard from Alex?  I emailed him using the email thesis provided but still haven't heard anything. 
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 23 March 2019, 16:46:06
Has anyone actually heard from Alex?  I emailed him using the email thesis provided but still haven't heard anything.

my last contact with him was 3/3
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: proboy84 on Sat, 23 March 2019, 21:31:41
Has anyone actually heard from Alex?  I emailed him using the email thesis provided but still haven't heard anything.

Got a reply from him on 20/3 from a Zfrontier contact email.

He said "Kira boards will begin to go out this week :)"

still no sign for me though
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Sun, 24 March 2019, 19:18:58
Jesus Christ it's almost April.... i sent alex regarding refund and still ignored. Zfrontier = not safe for me I guess  :-X
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: DoesItReallyMatter on Mon, 25 March 2019, 05:10:26
No reply from zfrontier on the mail that was provided here.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: //gainsborough on Mon, 25 March 2019, 11:47:49
same =/  I reported a problem on paypal - which I thought actually opened up a case, but I guess "report a problem" only opens up a line of communication between myself and zfrontier through payapl.  I can "escalate to paypal" through - which I will probably do if I don't hear from them in a couple of days.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 25 March 2019, 12:52:26
same =/  I reported a problem on paypal - which I thought actually opened up a case, but I guess "report a problem" only opens up a line of communication between myself and zfrontier through payapl.  I can "escalate to paypal" through - which I will probably do if I don't hear from them in a couple of days.

basically when you reported the problem to Paypal they open up a direct line of communication with company. That's meant to drag feet and give the company a chance to answer/ship? Once you given it a few days you escalate. Then the company has like 30 day's to respond. They don't respond in that 30 day's then you automatically get your refund. They do respond they have a chance to explain and whats going on. Honestly hate saying this after using it twice Paypal buyer protection is a joke. It really seems to be more of a gimmick and marketing scheme. There a good like 99.9% chance you will get your money back but only because it benefits paypal 98% of the time with consumers.   
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 25 March 2019, 13:16:42
I’m on the grid 600 gb which has dragged on with zf as well. Got an email from Alex in the morning that those are shipping out. In a couple of weeks. Hopefully he is now better and can give us an update ship the boards.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vafan on Mon, 25 March 2019, 22:10:52
Well, I paid it with my credit card. My only chance is hope
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Mon, 25 March 2019, 22:14:14
Well, I paid it with my credit card. My only chance is hope
Same, didn’t even remember it until I checked my paypal history :/
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Komplexx on Tue, 26 March 2019, 00:43:26
Just wanted to say I hate this ****ing forum. It's so stupid can't organize by when a thread was started. To go through all the posts just to see that **** is over already is annoying as ****.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 26 March 2019, 01:57:41
Just wanted to say I hate this ****ing forum. It's so stupid can't organize by when a thread was started. To go through all the posts just to see that **** is over already is annoying as ****.

welcome to geekhack
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Hamel on Tue, 26 March 2019, 06:41:22
I wouldn't be surprised even if nobody did, but have anyone got an update from ZF?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 26 March 2019, 10:09:51
I proceeded to file a claim and woke up this morning to a refund from zF. I didn’t request a refund but just automatically got it. Looks I’ll never be joining a zF buy again. Kinda tragic because I wanted the board more than the refund
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 26 March 2019, 12:14:24
I proceeded to file a claim and woke up this morning to a refund from zF. I didn’t request a refund but just automatically got it. Looks I’ll never be joining a zF buy again. Kinda tragic because I wanted the board more than the refund

When you file a PayPal dispute claim, there is not much more you can expect, I guess. Just move on.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 26 March 2019, 15:49:04
I haven’t received an update from zFrontier.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Tue, 26 March 2019, 16:05:53
To those who are saying that zf has not replied to any of your emails, check your spam. Especially if you are using gmail.

I've sent 3 emails to zf in last couple months (regarding other buys) and I got a reply within 24 hours everytime. Those replies did, however, all go to spam.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: bciamny on Tue, 26 March 2019, 16:29:21
I haven’t received an update from zFrontier.

hey thesis, i know this gb has been tough slogging but i hope it doesn't discourage you from sharing more of your designs with the community. i was planning to be in the gb when beaming was running it but dropped out due to the unknown status of the numpad availability when it moved over to zF. i do think zF will do right by the people that joined the gb but i understand the consternation from the participants.

the kira80 and numpad are my favorite tkl and numpad choices since joining the hobby. i wished things had gone differently so that i could've joined and i do look forward to seeing your design thoughts in tkls in the future.

thanks for trying to manage the thoughts of the gb participants here when a lot of the gb is no longer in your control.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 26 March 2019, 18:07:30
I haven’t received an update from zFrontier.

hey thesis, i know this gb has been tough slogging but i hope it doesn't discourage you from sharing more of your designs with the community. i was planning to be in the gb when beaming was running it but dropped out due to the unknown status of the numpad availability when it moved over to zF. i do think zF will do right by the people that joined the gb but i understand the consternation from the participants.

the kira80 and numpad are my favorite tkl and numpad choices since joining the hobby. i wished things had gone differently so that i could've joined and i do look forward to seeing your design thoughts in tkls in the future.

thanks for trying to manage the thoughts of the gb participants here when a lot of the gb is no longer in your control.

Thank you for the kind words, and I do believe zF will still ship and honor refunds. I also understand anyone who wishes to withdraw from the buy, if I was in this situation I would've filed a claim weeks ago. Although my situation is still kind of different. I can have my keyboard ideas made as long as I have the cash, so I also understand those who want to wait just a little bit longer.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Tue, 26 March 2019, 18:20:57
To those who are saying that zf has not replied to any of your emails, check your spam. Especially if you are using gmail.

I've sent 3 emails to zf in last couple months (ragarding other buys) and I got a reply within 24 hours everytime. Those replies did, however, all go to spam.

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That's strange - because gmail (or other email services in general) does not mark a "reply" to an email originating from the inbox as spam. Gmail obviously respects the "In-Reply-To" and "References" fields on the message. 
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Tue, 26 March 2019, 18:26:22
thesis - I just wanted to echo this again-
thanks for trying to manage the thoughts of the gb participants here when a lot of the gb is no longer in your control.

Its truly admirable that you are in this tough spot with no real control over this situation and still the only "non-buyer" who is trying to provide updates.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Tue, 26 March 2019, 18:35:13
To those who are saying that zf has not replied to any of your emails, check your spam. Especially if you are using gmail.

I've sent 3 emails to zf in last couple months (ragarding other buys) and I got a reply within 24 hours everytime. Those replies did, however, all go to spam.

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That's strange - because gmail (or other email services in general) does not mark a "reply" to an email originating from the inbox as spam. Gmail obviously respects the "In-Reply-To" and "References" fields on the message.

My initial emails were sent to their support@ address. The replies all came from alex.lin@, so it does not appear to be a "traditional" reply.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: yap68 on Tue, 26 March 2019, 21:34:58
I proceeded to file a claim and woke up this morning to a refund from zF. I didn’t request a refund but just automatically got it. Looks I’ll never be joining a zF buy again. Kinda tragic because I wanted the board more than the refund

Filing a claim means getting your refund back. At this stage, you will not be contacted with seller anymore and PayPal will make the final decision after 10 days. If seller previously doesn't respond during the dispute and the claim, you will surely get refunded.

This is what I experinced in my case.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: yap68 on Wed, 27 March 2019, 03:41:42
I proceeded to file a claim and woke up this morning to a refund from zF. I didn’t request a refund but just automatically got it. Looks I’ll never be joining a zF buy again. Kinda tragic because I wanted the board more than the refund

Filing a claim means getting your refund back. At this stage, you will not be contacted with seller anymore and PayPal will make the final decision after 10 days. If seller previously doesn't respond during the dispute and the claim, you will surely get refunded.

This is what I experinced in my case.

Happy to get refunded although there was a minor loss on currency exchange. Just don't want to take the risk to get a half-cooked keyboard at the end after all the money and time wasted.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Wed, 27 March 2019, 03:58:30
I proceeded to file a claim and woke up this morning to a refund from zF. I didn’t request a refund but just automatically got it. Looks I’ll never be joining a zF buy again. Kinda tragic because I wanted the board more than the refund

Filing a claim means getting your refund back. At this stage, you will not be contacted with seller anymore and PayPal will make the final decision after 10 days. If seller previously doesn't respond during the dispute and the claim, you will surely get refunded.

This is what I experinced in my case.

Happy to get refunded although there was a minor loss on currency exchange. Just don't want to take the risk to get a half-cooked keyboard at the end after all the money and time wasted.
I’ve been skimming through a few KIRA posts from the CN groupbuy, and it doesn’t seem like defects or major flaws were detected.

So besides the faulty plate and awful communication, I wouldn’t expect the kit to have major issues.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 27 March 2019, 04:21:16
I haven’t received an update from zFrontier.

hey thesis, i know this gb has been tough slogging but i hope it doesn't discourage you from sharing more of your designs with the community. i was planning to be in the gb when beaming was running it but dropped out due to the unknown status of the numpad availability when it moved over to zF. i do think zF will do right by the people that joined the gb but i understand the consternation from the participants.

the kira80 and numpad are my favorite tkl and numpad choices since joining the hobby. i wished things had gone differently so that i could've joined and i do look forward to seeing your design thoughts in tkls in the future.

thanks for trying to manage the thoughts of the gb participants here when a lot of the gb is no longer in your control.

Thank you for the kind words, and I do believe zF will still ship and honor refunds. I also understand anyone who wishes to withdraw from the buy, if I was in this situation I would've filed a claim weeks ago. Although my situation is still kind of different. I can have my keyboard ideas made as long as I have the cash, so I also understand those who want to wait just a little bit longer.

I am completely in love with the tesselated look of these KIRA's. They match my graphics card, my water block (an EKWB anniversary edition) and soon my computer case (Fractal Design Meshify S2). I'm really hoping this buy comes through because the KIRA80 would complete the look for me.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: yap68 on Wed, 27 March 2019, 04:38:14
I proceeded to file a claim and woke up this morning to a refund from zF. I didn’t request a refund but just automatically got it. Looks I’ll never be joining a zF buy again. Kinda tragic because I wanted the board more than the refund

Filing a claim means getting your refund back. At this stage, you will not be contacted with seller anymore and PayPal will make the final decision after 10 days. If seller previously doesn't respond during the dispute and the claim, you will surely get refunded.

This is what I experinced in my case.

Happy to get refunded although there was a minor loss on currency exchange. Just don't want to take the risk to get a half-cooked keyboard at the end after all the money and time wasted.
I’ve been skimming through a few KIRA posts from the CN groupbuy, and it doesn’t seem like defects or major flaws were detected.

So besides the faulty plate and awful communication, I wouldn’t expect the kit to have major issues.

The colour that I chose is Poseidon Blue and it didn't come out correctly. I considered this a major issue and do not want to wait for zF to sent back to Eve to do it again after so many months of waiting.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 27 March 2019, 05:10:14
The colour that I chose is Poseidon Blue and it didn't come out correctly. I considered this a major issue and do not want to wait for zF to sent back to Eve to do it again after so many months of waiting.

I picked Poseidon Blue also and was under the impression that some kits had color problems, but not all of them? This photo that was posted on page 15 in this thread looks how I imagined it would:

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=96381.0;attach=213009;image)

Just hoping for the best really.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: opioid on Wed, 27 March 2019, 05:15:40
I haven’t emailed zf at all and just went about with my life after signing up. Got an email this morning with my invoice for shipping that stated my TKL was packed and ready to go. Will be paying it ASAP then just waiting again for its arrival. Maybe it’ll be a month or two but I’m sure it’ll all work out.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 27 March 2019, 05:37:47

Happy to get refunded although there was a minor loss on currency exchange. Just don't want to take the risk to get a half-cooked keyboard at the end after all the money and time wasted.

I had to open a case as my coverage would've expired before shipping, I lost £50 in exchange rates but rang Paypal and they credited the difference, they said this was a mistake and I should've got the full amount anyway.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Choppersuey on Wed, 27 March 2019, 05:54:48
Well I’ll be damned, I got a shipping invoice
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: mgsickler on Wed, 27 March 2019, 05:58:05
I got my shipping invoice on this, too.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Carmelita on Wed, 27 March 2019, 05:58:45
The road to success is interesting, then get online to play throughout the course.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: proboy84 on Wed, 27 March 2019, 06:25:32
Got invoice and paid too.
Title: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: DoesItReallyMatter on Wed, 27 March 2019, 07:32:01
Also got shipping invoice but emails still go without replies. Any official word on numpad for us international buyers?

Communication has been nonexistent in this gb. Its a joke...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Wed, 27 March 2019, 07:34:27
Haven't gotten one but I bought the Poseidon blue board.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Nigolski on Wed, 27 March 2019, 08:50:16
just got my invoice :p
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SolidCactus on Wed, 27 March 2019, 09:56:33
I got my invoice this morning as well.

For reference, my board is black in color.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 27 March 2019, 12:10:30
Got my invoice as well. This better mean its shipping out now...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Thu, 28 March 2019, 07:41:25
never got a reply nor invoice since i paid with credit card.... have sent message through zfrontier support, i know they are just lazy people but i just hope just once, they would reply+refund so everythings okay. hope there is another asian proxy other than zfrontier since they not to be trusted of after looking through couple of their GBs and how they handle.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 28 March 2019, 12:13:17
Unfortunately they just issued a refund for me, as I had opened a PayPal case before the time window ran out. I would have preferred re-invoicing. I hope they offer a chance for us to “buy” them once they are all done, after the cancellations .
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Eric404atx on Thu, 28 March 2019, 12:35:31
Patience is a virtue. I feel bad for all these people who got refunds in the past week or so and couldn't wait another week. I can't wait to get my Kira I got my shipping invoice. Moon Grey Color FYI

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Thu, 28 March 2019, 12:57:39
Anybody who ordered red get an invoice yet?

Edit: yep... so color is not the issue

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: elDuderino on Thu, 28 March 2019, 12:59:33
Patience is a virtue. I feel bad for all these people who got refunds in the past week or so and couldn't wait another week. I can't wait to get my Kira I got my shipping invoice. Moon Grey Color FYI

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Honestly I’m still glad I got my refund. I would have been upset if I got a shipping invoice with no info about what the defects were. If the board shows up with the wrong color, messed up plate, etc, I would be out 400 bucks with no recourse. (I got Poseidon blue). I’m bummed, I wanted the board, but I want it right or not at all. The lack of communication on the specifics of the issues means it’s more of a risk than I’m willing to take, personally.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Thu, 28 March 2019, 13:01:20
I don’t think anyone here had an issue with not being patient. For me it was mostly zf going dark, with no updates, and PayPal protection about to runout. If they were communicative, I don’t even care about PayPal protection, but when it seems like they are going dark, Pulling the trigger on PayPal seems attractive
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Eric404atx on Thu, 28 March 2019, 13:09:15
Patience is a virtue. I feel bad for all these people who got refunds in the past week or so and couldn't wait another week. I can't wait to get my Kira I got my shipping invoice. Moon Grey Color FYI

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Honestly I’m still glad I got my refund. I would have been upset if I got a shipping invoice with no info about what the defects were. If the board shows up with the wrong color, messed up plate, etc, I would be out 400 bucks with no recourse. (I got Poseidon blue). I’m bummed, I wanted the board, but I want it right or not at all. The lack of communication on the specifics of the issues means it’s more of a risk than I’m willing to take, personally.


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From my understanding the wait was to correct the color, but I agree if you are paying $400 you should get what you paid for especially when it's a keyboard. Lol I wasn't worried about the refund even though my PayPal "protection" was running out. Nothing moves quickly in GBs and especially in this community. I hope you find one later in the color u wanted since it sounds like you still want it.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Eric404atx on Thu, 28 March 2019, 13:14:39
As far as defects go, zF never sent anything to purchasers personally about the defects other than what was listed on there updates page on their site. Nothing was mentioned in the shipping invoice either. I assume if you get it and don't like it or their are defects you still have the option to return it for a refund.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 28 March 2019, 14:25:43
As far as defects go, zF never sent anything to purchasers personally about the defects other than what was listed on there updates page on their site. Nothing was mentioned in the shipping invoice either. I assume if you get it and don't like it or their are defects you still have the option to return it for a refund.

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I hope so. If there are defects, I fully expect shipping both ways to be covered as well.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: King4477 on Thu, 28 March 2019, 14:37:37
Apologies for being terse, but zFrontier’s behavior should not be acceptable to anyone and bravo to each of you who demanded refunds and received them. ZFrontier’s collapsing ability to fulfill its current obligations, late payments to manufacturers who are growing impatient with them, and continuing to accept additional funds from new group buyers make me think that not quite everything is above board over there and perhaps they are becoming insolvent. I’ll never support them again.

Also, for all of you who are getting refunded now, that’s a no-brainer for ZFrontier who are happy to refund your order at this point that they’ve had the use of your interest-free loan for six months and can turn around and sell the keyboard you commissioned for a premium over what you would have paid. That’s about as slimy as they get.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 28 March 2019, 15:29:41
Apologies for being terse, but zFrontier’s behavior should not be acceptable to anyone and bravo to each of you who demanded refunds and received them. ZFrontier’s collapsing ability to fulfill its current obligations, late payments to manufacturers who are growing impatient with them, and continuing to accept additional funds from new group buyers make me think that not quite everything is above board over there and perhaps they are becoming insolvent. I’ll never support them again.

Also, for all of you who are getting refunded now, that’s a no-brainer for ZFrontier who are happy to refund your order at this point that they’ve had the use of your interest-free loan for six months and can turn around and sell the keyboard you commissioned for a premium over what you would have paid. That’s about as slimy as they get.

And Topclack announced that they stopped the sponsorship relationship with ZF? Curious what happened, is it because ZF was not able to pay, or what.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: HotRoderX on Thu, 28 March 2019, 16:06:44
Apologies for being terse, but zFrontier’s behavior should not be acceptable to anyone and bravo to each of you who demanded refunds and received them. ZFrontier’s collapsing ability to fulfill its current obligations, late payments to manufacturers who are growing impatient with them, and continuing to accept additional funds from new group buyers make me think that not quite everything is above board over there and perhaps they are becoming insolvent. I’ll never support them again.

Also, for all of you who are getting refunded now, that’s a no-brainer for ZFrontier who are happy to refund your order at this point that they’ve had the use of your interest-free loan for six months and can turn around and sell the keyboard you commissioned for a premium over what you would have paid. That’s about as slimy as they get.

I think thats a little unfairly harsh and assumes they were out to scam the community from the get go. I get it your a bit upset over how things have ended up and no one can blame you. At this point thought they are doing the right thing which is more then a lot of GB runners have done. I am looking at 21 as a great example and Dolphin groupbuy. Those people lost a lot and there seems to be no recourse there just SOL. Those I would contribute more to scamming then ZF's. Given what ZF has done is not excusable and can't go on. I Just think they simply wanted to do more seen a chance to grow inside the community and completely got in over there heads. At this point I bet they are just taking on new buys to keep up with the old buys. Then hoping once things settle down they can make back what they ended up losing due to refunds on selling non sold board's. I might be wrong but don't think there was ill intent and they are trying to make right with refunding.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Eric404atx on Thu, 28 March 2019, 16:11:14
Apologies for being terse, but zFrontier’s behavior should not be acceptable to anyone and bravo to each of you who demanded refunds and received them. ZFrontier’s collapsing ability to fulfill its current obligations, late payments to manufacturers who are growing impatient with them, and continuing to accept additional funds from new group buyers make me think that not quite everything is above board over there and perhaps they are becoming insolvent. I’ll never support them again.

Also, for all of you who are getting refunded now, that’s a no-brainer for ZFrontier who are happy to refund your order at this point that they’ve had the use of your interest-free loan for six months and can turn around and sell the keyboard you commissioned for a premium over what you would have paid. That’s about as slimy as they get.

I think thats a little unfairly harsh and assumes they were out to scam the community from the get go. I get it your a bit upset over how things have ended up and no one can blame you. At this point thought they are doing the right thing which is more then a lot of GB runners have done. I am looking at 21 as a great example and Dolphin groupbuy. Those people lost a lot and there seems to be no recourse there just SOL. Those I would contribute more to scamming then ZF's. Given what ZF has done is not excusable and can't go on. I Just think they simply wanted to do more seen a chance to grow inside the community and completely got in over there heads. At this point I bet they are just taking on new buys to keep up with the old buys. Then hoping once things settle down they can make back what they ended up losing due to refunds on selling non sold board's. I might be wrong but don't think there was ill intent and they are trying to make right with refunding.
I agree with hotroder 100%. To say it's an interest free loan... Duh, isn't every GB? Lol zF could have done a better job of communicating no doubt but seems like he was sick or had something going on and did communicate that at some point but was buried. I am glad to see things are moving again.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 28 March 2019, 16:11:30
Apologies for being terse, but zFrontier’s behavior should not be acceptable to anyone and bravo to each of you who demanded refunds and received them. ZFrontier’s collapsing ability to fulfill its current obligations, late payments to manufacturers who are growing impatient with them, and continuing to accept additional funds from new group buyers make me think that not quite everything is above board over there and perhaps they are becoming insolvent. I’ll never support them again.

Also, for all of you who are getting refunded now, that’s a no-brainer for ZFrontier who are happy to refund your order at this point that they’ve had the use of your interest-free loan for six months and can turn around and sell the keyboard you commissioned for a premium over what you would have paid. That’s about as slimy as they get.

I think thats a little unfairly harsh and assumes they were out to scam the community from the get go. I get it your a bit upset over how things have ended up and no one can blame you. At this point thought they are doing the right thing which is more then a lot of GB runners have done. I am looking at 21 as a great example and Dolphin groupbuy. Those people lost a lot and there seems to be no recourse there just SOL. Those I would contribute more to scamming then ZF's. Given what ZF has done is not excusable and can't go on. I Just think they simply wanted to do more seen a chance to grow inside the community and completely got in over there heads. At this point I bet they are just taking on new buys to keep up with the old buys. Then hoping once things settle down they can make back what they ended up losing due to refunds on selling non sold board's. I might be wrong but don't think there was ill intent and they are trying to make right with refunding.

Yeah, I dont think that's unfair at all. Pretty much any speculation is game considering how they pretty much have literally 0 correspondence with us in this group buy thread.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: yap68 on Thu, 28 March 2019, 22:50:46
Patience is a virtue. I feel bad for all these people who got refunds in the past week or so and couldn't wait another week. I can't wait to get my Kira I got my shipping invoice. Moon Grey Color FYI

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Honestly I’m still glad I got my refund. I would have been upset if I got a shipping invoice with no info about what the defects were. If the board shows up with the wrong color, messed up plate, etc, I would be out 400 bucks with no recourse. (I got Poseidon blue). I’m bummed, I wanted the board, but I want it right or not at all. The lack of communication on the specifics of the issues means it’s more of a risk than I’m willing to take, personally.


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+1

There are many options for keyboards. Why stick to one that can't really do a good job?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vafan on Thu, 28 March 2019, 23:25:17
Anyone here already paid the shipping invoice and got the tracking number?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Fri, 29 March 2019, 10:59:50
you know what, now I'm not even sure if it was really due to Alex being sick that zfrontier couldn't update us. They've been ignoring my messages/email/support for 5 months. There shouldn't be anyone siding on zfrontier and making things lose, since it is just not professional at all for someone who is a big proxy incharge of Asia. This GB is just a full-mess from the scratch. The fact that chinese participants got them like 2 months ago is unfair to start with, and there didn't seem to be of any issue regarding color or plates. Many of you point out your experiences with previous purchase at zfrontier saying you guys got them with no problem, but really tho, if we just look at how they behave with their GB recently, they are non different with scammer.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Fri, 29 March 2019, 11:14:02
No invoice yet, also Poseidon Blue
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Fri, 29 March 2019, 12:14:57
No invoice yet, also Poseidon Blue

Same here. Disheartening. But it's nice to see others getting theirs. A little bit of progress!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: ullr on Fri, 29 March 2019, 15:30:46
Anyone here already paid the shipping invoice and got the tracking number?

I paid the day I got the invoice (two days ago), it has not shipped yet.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: DoesItReallyMatter on Fri, 29 March 2019, 16:42:38
Anybody who ordered red get an invoice yet?

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: schlep on Sun, 31 March 2019, 08:57:16
No shipping invoice here too. WKL Poseidon Blue.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Sun, 31 March 2019, 09:45:19
WK Poseidon here, no invoice yet (at least not afaik, I took over a friend's spot).
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: jumpmineralwater on Mon, 01 April 2019, 02:34:52
Pearl Blue. No invoice yet.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Mon, 01 April 2019, 08:18:51
premium red no invoice, no reply, no refund  >:D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vafan on Mon, 01 April 2019, 22:30:06
The problem is after we pay the shipping fees. When will they ship it? Or we will have to wait three months?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 01 April 2019, 22:40:36
I had a brief chat with Steven yesterday, he said he’s on project leave and that he’ll work on getting updates. I waited for an update but I haven’t received one at the moment. I also got an update from EVE, that he hasn’t received communication from zFrontier. I’m sorry I don’t have better news at the moment.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 01 April 2019, 23:40:16
I had a brief chat with Steven yesterday, he said he’s on project leave and that he’ll work on getting updates. I waited for an update but I haven’t received one at the moment. I also got an update from EVE, that he hasn’t received communication from zFrontier. I’m sorry I don’t have better news at the moment.

Wait, so theres a possibility that the shipping invoice payment doesn't mean they're shipping out the boards? O.o
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: ullr on Mon, 01 April 2019, 23:50:39
I kinda had a feeling there was still some waiting to do, but I admit I let myself hope they would just... ship the keyboard with the postage I paid
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Tue, 02 April 2019, 02:31:50
I had a brief chat with Steven yesterday, he said he’s on project leave and that he’ll work on getting updates. I waited for an update but I haven’t received one at the moment. I also got an update from EVE, that he hasn’t received communication from zFrontier. I’m sorry I don’t have better news at the moment.

Wait, so theres a possibility that the shipping invoice payment doesn't mean they're shipping out the boards? O.o

aw not your fault at all... it's not like you've intended to delay the shipping, it's all zfrontier's fault for all these mess. the more GBs i see on their website, the more angry I get, hope someone able to speak chinese would deliver our thoughts and concern to them, the work they are handling as of now is just overloaded, they can't even manage previous GBs properly but yet still receiving more boards and keyset groupbuys.. 
i just somehow wish to know how much longer the kira gonna be delayed now...
i participated in the GB with debit card, and i did contact the card company but they told me i can't get them back because i haven't reported this issue within 3 months....
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 02 April 2019, 03:15:32
I had a brief chat with Steven yesterday, he said he’s on project leave and that he’ll work on getting updates. I waited for an update but I haven’t received one at the moment. I also got an update from EVE, that he hasn’t received communication from zFrontier. I’m sorry I don’t have better news at the moment.

Wait, so theres a possibility that the shipping invoice payment doesn't mean they're shipping out the boards? O.o

aw not your fault at all... it's not like you've intended to delay the shipping, it's all zfrontier's fault for all these mess. the more GBs i see on their website, the more angry I get, hope someone able to speak chinese would deliver our thoughts and concern to them, the work they are handling as of now is just overloaded, they can't even manage previous GBs properly but yet still receiving more boards and keyset groupbuys.. 
i just somehow wish to know how much longer the kira gonna be delayed now...
i participated in the GB with debit card, and i did contact the card company but they told me i can't get them back because i haven't reported this issue within 3 months....

they are well aware of how ****ty our situation is, don't worry
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: aszyd on Tue, 02 April 2019, 06:09:32
I've been lurking, but I figured I would let you guys know that I received tracking information from DHL for a package from ZFrontier. Hopefully the rest of you will have good news soon.

Pos Blue, shipping paid last week.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: BlindWitness on Tue, 02 April 2019, 10:28:55
I'm in for Poseidon Blue as well. Got a shipping invoice last week and DHL shipping confirmation this morning so hopefully more will follow suit. They're moving, just in silence it seems like.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Tue, 02 April 2019, 22:28:39
Just received DHL tracking number.  Not going to let my guard down, but it's definitely looking up!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: enfer on Tue, 02 April 2019, 22:59:48
WTF??
I just received track number.
But this shipment were already in my country.
I think I would get them today or tomorrow.

I ordered WKL Red + Deep black plates.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: proboy84 on Tue, 02 April 2019, 23:52:09
WTF??
I just received track number.
But this shipment were already in my country.
I think I would get them today or tomorrow.

I ordered WKL Red + Deep black plates.

This is normal for Zfrontier.

I got my package 1 week before I got the tracking no. for my last two order from Zfrontier, lol
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: mathleejj on Wed, 03 April 2019, 01:21:18
Moon Grey WKL... still no invoice  :( :(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Wed, 03 April 2019, 02:04:05
how is the shipping invoice gonna handled for people who have paid with debit/credit card? i ordered red/wkl+extra brass plate, i haven't heard anything from them nor shipping invoices
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 03 April 2019, 02:10:18
So just a quick question, since people are getting tracking numbers and shipping invoices, does anyone know if they fixed the plates or are they just sending us the botched ones
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Wed, 03 April 2019, 03:20:12
how is the shipping invoice gonna handled for people who have paid with debit/credit card? i ordered red/wkl+extra brass plate, i haven't heard anything from them nor shipping invoices

In my case, I received an "Complete Your Order" e-mail with a hyperlink to a zFrontier order page.
At that point, while I used PayPal, other payments methods are possible.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Nigolski on Wed, 03 April 2019, 05:27:16
So just a quick question, since people are getting tracking numbers and shipping invoices, does anyone know if they fixed the plates or are they just sending us the botched ones
I would assume that they'll send us the KILA plates but who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Choppersuey on Wed, 03 April 2019, 06:11:11
Received tracking  :)
For a gray WKL, btw
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: BlindWitness on Wed, 03 April 2019, 09:49:25
So just a quick question, since people are getting tracking numbers and shipping invoices, does anyone know if they fixed the plates or are they just sending us the botched ones

I haven't seen anything about that so I'm assuming it might be the botched plates but I can report back tomorrow once it's been delivered
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Wed, 03 April 2019, 09:51:22
So just a quick question, since people are getting tracking numbers and shipping invoices, does anyone know if they fixed the plates or are they just sending us the botched ones

I haven't seen anything about that so I'm assuming it might be the botched plates but I can report back tomorrow once it's been delivered

What plate(s) did you order? Just curious as to what is the hold up for some of us.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: BlindWitness on Wed, 03 April 2019, 10:04:44
So just a quick question, since people are getting tracking numbers and shipping invoices, does anyone know if they fixed the plates or are they just sending us the botched ones

I haven't seen anything about that so I'm assuming it might be the botched plates but I can report back tomorrow once it's been delivered

What plate(s) did you order? Just curious as to what is the hold up for some of us.


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I'm in for a WK Alum plate that's part of the Pos Blue kit. I didn't order an extra or brass plate this time around. I'm not sure if others in the same color way ordered any extras
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Wed, 03 April 2019, 10:07:05
So just a quick question, since people are getting tracking numbers and shipping invoices, does anyone know if they fixed the plates or are they just sending us the botched ones

I haven't seen anything about that so I'm assuming it might be the botched plates but I can report back tomorrow once it's been delivered

What plate(s) did you order? Just curious as to what is the hold up for some of us.


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I'm in for a WK Alum plate that's part of the Pos Blue kit. I didn't order an extra or brass plate this time around. I'm not sure if others in the same color way ordered any extras

Hmm, that's my configuration as well but I ordered a extra PCB and brass plate. Maybe that's the problem.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: aszyd on Wed, 03 April 2019, 10:12:22
I ordered an extra brass plate and it was a separate order too. I decided to buy one after placing my initial order for the case. Got an email yesterday stating that both of my orders had been fulfilled. If I get my board tomorrow, like the tracking estimates, I post some pictures.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: enfer on Thu, 04 April 2019, 03:08:22
 :p Finally! I just received Kira!
Here are a few pictures of Board.
You should know that it was photographed by my galaxy note 9.
So it's colors doesn't match real things we look at.
Two keycaps on the board are GMK Burgundy.

More
(https://i.imgur.com/GApqMF8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eFedU7U.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/I8Z3KAB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/173fQDQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5qhVqwC.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Thu, 04 April 2019, 05:41:36
:p Finally! I just received Kira!
Here are a few pictures of Board.
You should know that it was photographed by my galaxy note 9.
So it's colors doesn't match real things we look at.
Two keycaps on the board are GMK Burgundy.

More
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/GApqMF8.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/eFedU7U.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/I8Z3KAB.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/173fQDQ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5qhVqwC.jpg)

you got the exact same option as me lol.... how about the back view? are there any nameplates(?) like the chinese participants had?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: aszyd on Thu, 04 April 2019, 12:12:13
So they are shipping with the screwed up plates. Oh well. At least we are getting a product.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 04 April 2019, 12:24:13
:p Finally! I just received Kira!
Here are a few pictures of Board.
You should know that it was photographed by my galaxy note 9.
So it's colors doesn't match real things we look at.
Two keycaps on the board are GMK Burgundy.

More
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/GApqMF8.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/eFedU7U.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/I8Z3KAB.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/173fQDQ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5qhVqwC.jpg)


Is there a back weight also? Like in some of the Chinese GB photos. Were you in the "priority buy"?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: DoesItReallyMatter on Thu, 04 April 2019, 12:58:16
:p Finally! I just received Kira!
Here are a few pictures of Board.
You should know that it was photographed by my galaxy note 9.
So it's colors doesn't match real things we look at.
Two keycaps on the board are GMK Burgundy.

More
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/GApqMF8.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/eFedU7U.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/I8Z3KAB.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/173fQDQ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5qhVqwC.jpg)


Is there a back weight also? Like in some of the Chinese GB photos. Were you in the "priority buy"?

Yes, they have back weight, atleast mine arrived with one and i was not in "priority buy".
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: mathleejj on Thu, 04 April 2019, 13:13:36
Back Weight : for everyone after talking with EVE.
Priority Buy : Number engravings on weight (From what i remember, there was a survey on this...)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Holicalis on Thu, 04 April 2019, 14:26:11
Is anyone willing to sell me a brass plate? I joined the gb before I realized the superiority of brass :(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: aszyd on Thu, 04 April 2019, 15:03:18
Only got the brass plate, not the purple Alu plate I had also selected and the color is much more grey than I was expecting for Pos. blue. Seems like they chose to ship the boards instead of fixing the issues.

Edit: Comparing to the color samples on the site, it's pretty close.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: aszyd on Thu, 04 April 2019, 15:18:09
A couple more pics.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: ullr on Thu, 04 April 2019, 16:16:06
My plate actually does say Kira lol. I appreciate that it came with a back weight.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 04 April 2019, 17:11:20
Are you guys based in the USA? Just wondering where these boards are reaching first.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 04 April 2019, 17:13:25
USA and mine just got delivered. im in Illinois as well so mid country.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 04 April 2019, 17:14:15
also thought i was only gonna get one, with the size of the box i think they sent bolth but idk just got it and havent opened yet.

opened and it was just one but i got ALL my extra parts so idk well see how this goes, should have a second board showing up.
https://imgur.com/a/jxcN987 (https://imgur.com/a/jxcN987)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Thu, 04 April 2019, 23:51:27
Anyone from the priority buy got their boards? Interested to see if the back weight is any different.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 05 April 2019, 08:30:33
Meanwhile, I'm over here without even a shipping invoice. Dang.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Fri, 05 April 2019, 09:16:16
Meanwhile, I'm over here without even a shipping invoice. Dang.

me neither bro.... i specially paid with a debit card and haven't gotten a single email or replies to my email sent to them yet. And i don't understand why people are thankful and saying "at least the board arrived", i mean, we paid for the product and we deserve way better treatment... we shouldn't be thanking for the product to arrive lol, especially with the mis-manufactured plate... now i'm afraid if i will be left out by zfrontier due to their crazy lots of GBs and not able to even receive my refund nor product
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Fri, 05 April 2019, 09:36:22
Nice to hear people are receiving their boards.
Not so nice that they are sending the faulty plates. I would prefer a correct one, even if it means an even longer wait.

Also not quite sure how I feel about the engraving on the back weight.

But the colors and the board itself look really nice so far!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: elmo on Fri, 05 April 2019, 12:03:20
Received mine today   :D
(https://i.imgur.com/oWGLD7R.jpg)

AND I GOT THE BACK WEIGHT!  :-X
(https://i.imgur.com/MK5KWl4.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 05 April 2019, 12:50:55
Meanwhile, I'm over here without even a shipping invoice. Dang.

me neither bro.... i specially paid with a debit card and haven't gotten a single email or replies to my email sent to them yet. And i don't understand why people are thankful and saying "at least the board arrived", i mean, we paid for the product and we deserve way better treatment... we shouldn't be thanking for the product to arrive lol, especially with the mis-manufactured plate... now i'm afraid if i will be left out by zfrontier due to their crazy lots of GBs and not able to even receive my refund nor product

Thats why they always warn people not to throw down money they can't afford to lose. I mean its really really sad but this is how the community functions most the time, and whats worse this seems like its becoming the norm. I know the group buy runners, some of them are trying and just get in over there heads when there is a issue. Still the bottom line is there way to much forgiveness in the community. Though the boards do look amazing it sucks about the plates being messed up, but on the positive its not something you see all the time. 
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: schlep on Fri, 05 April 2019, 18:02:59
Are you guys based in the USA? Just wondering where these boards are reaching first.

I wanna know this too. I was in the priority group buy but I haven't received any shipping invoice or the board yet.
Based in South East Asia here.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: mgsickler on Fri, 05 April 2019, 19:46:33
US here. Just received my board. Haven’t had a chance to really check it out, but the plate does have the wrong “KIRA” above the arrow keys.

I’ll check out the board more next week.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 06 April 2019, 21:52:51
one thing id like to say is man for what we paid i expected better in some aspects, like one thing that irritates me are the plate screw hole tolerances are crazy big and make the screw holes show when plate is mounted and the hardware they provided is soooo crappy the heads are off center, i threw all the hardware away and used my own. otherwise im happy, wonder when my priority board will show up.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Sat, 06 April 2019, 23:36:07
one thing id like to say is man for what we paid i expected better in some aspects, like one thing that irritates me are the plate screw hole tolerances are crazy big and make the screw holes show when plate is mounted and the hardware they provided is soooo crappy the heads are off center, i threw all the hardware away and used my own. otherwise im happy, wonder when my priority board will show up.

Wait, so you received a board but it wasn't the priority board? Are priority boards being sent out later or something? I'm based in the US midwest and still haven't received any tracking number but I did pay my invoice.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: elmo on Sun, 07 April 2019, 08:44:23
I just finished building my board.

Unfortunately I'm not able to flash it with Bootmapper Client.
It gets stuck in "processing..."

Anybody know where I can get the latest firmware files for the Kira?

Edit no2:
I got it to work.
Was a driver problem.
Windows used the wrong driver for the board (I did some experiments with an attiny85 lately and windows somehow tried to use the tinyusb driver for the board once it was in bootloader mode).

Edit:
Pic of finished board
(https://i.imgur.com/z21fGrI.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 07 April 2019, 10:59:04
one thing id like to say is man for what we paid i expected better in some aspects, like one thing that irritates me are the plate screw hole tolerances are crazy big and make the screw holes show when plate is mounted and the hardware they provided is soooo crappy the heads are off center, i threw all the hardware away and used my own. otherwise im happy, wonder when my priority board will show up.

Wait, so you received a board but it wasn't the priority board? Are priority boards being sent out later or something? I'm based in the US midwest and still haven't received any tracking number but I did pay my invoice.

idk whats going on i bought a priority board and a regular one, this one is the one that wasnt my priority board. im guessing theyll send it out later, or it was one of the ones with issues.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 07 April 2019, 13:03:53
I just finished building my board.

Unfortunately I'm not able to flash it with Bootmapper Client.
It gets stuck in "processing..."

Anybody know where I can get the latest firmware files for the Kira?

Edit no2:
I got it to work.
Was a driver problem.
Windows used the wrong driver for the board (I did some experiments with an attiny85 lately and windows somehow tried to use the tinyusb driver for the board once it was in bootloader mode).

Edit:
Pic of finished board
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/z21fGrI.jpg)


Looks beautiful. Glad to see it all worked out for you! Any side shots?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 07 April 2019, 17:16:11
I'm very glad the boards have started to go out, I will try to get more info from zF about the others with anodizing issues and everything else that haven't shipped out. Thank you for your patience!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 07 April 2019, 17:32:18
I'm very glad the boards have started to go out, I will try to get more info from zF about the others with anodizing issues and everything else that haven't shipped out. Thank you for your patience!

if they message you back can you ask them to ship me my red riot and yolch sets please
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: chironex on Mon, 08 April 2019, 12:16:44
Received mine on Thursday, unfortunately it had a chunk shaved off the bottom edge and I'm still waiting to hear back from zF.  There's also a bit of gap between the case and the rear insert.  Not really an issue, but is anyone else's case like this?


(https://i.imgur.com/hd0rwoz.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 08 April 2019, 13:22:55
Received mine on Thursday, unfortunately it had a chunk shaved off the bottom edge and I'm still waiting to hear back from zF.  There's also a bit of gap between the case and the rear insert.  Not really an issue, but is anyone else's case like this?


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hd0rwoz.jpg)


Holy ****. Sorry to see that. Hope your issue gets resolved asap.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 08 April 2019, 15:24:44
Received mine on Thursday, unfortunately it had a chunk shaved off the bottom edge and I'm still waiting to hear back from zF.  There's also a bit of gap between the case and the rear insert.  Not really an issue, but is anyone else's case like this?


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hd0rwoz.jpg)


OOF
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 08 April 2019, 18:12:55
Received mine on Thursday, unfortunately it had a chunk shaved off the bottom edge and I'm still waiting to hear back from zF.  There's also a bit of gap between the case and the rear insert.  Not really an issue, but is anyone else's case like this?


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hd0rwoz.jpg)


This is horrible, could it have happened in transit? How was the box it shipped in and how well was it packed? I'd like to help, but I haven't heard back from Alex yet.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 09 April 2019, 02:03:15
Has anyone tried to build this with the h87a?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: DoesItReallyMatter on Tue, 09 April 2019, 02:11:30
Has anyone tried to build this with the h87a?
Yes, built mine with one.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 09 April 2019, 02:19:09
Has anyone tried to build this with the h87a?
Yes, built mine with one.


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This is great info, the fit is perfect?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: DoesItReallyMatter on Tue, 09 April 2019, 02:32:50
Has anyone tried to build this with the h87a?
Yes, built mine with one.


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This is great info, the fit is perfect?
Yep, no problems with fit.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: chironex on Tue, 09 April 2019, 09:50:41
Received mine on Thursday, unfortunately it had a chunk shaved off the bottom edge and I'm still waiting to hear back from zF.  There's also a bit of gap between the case and the rear insert.  Not really an issue, but is anyone else's case like this?


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hd0rwoz.jpg)


This is horrible, could it have happened in transit? How was the box it shipped in and how well was it packed? I'd like to help, but I haven't heard back from Alex yet.

There was no damage to the soft shell case, or the bubble wrap inside/outside of it.  Must have just been overlooked  :(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 09 April 2019, 13:34:43
Received mine on Thursday, unfortunately it had a chunk shaved off the bottom edge and I'm still waiting to hear back from zF.  There's also a bit of gap between the case and the rear insert.  Not really an issue, but is anyone else's case like this?


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hd0rwoz.jpg)


This is horrible, could it have happened in transit? How was the box it shipped in and how well was it packed? I'd like to help, but I haven't heard back from Alex yet.

There was no damage to the soft shell case, or the bubble wrap inside/outside of it.  Must have just been overlooked  :(

That's crazy. Rip QC. I assume you've reached out about getting it replaced?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: chironex on Wed, 10 April 2019, 12:57:24
Received mine on Thursday, unfortunately it had a chunk shaved off the bottom edge and I'm still waiting to hear back from zF.  There's also a bit of gap between the case and the rear insert.  Not really an issue, but is anyone else's case like this?


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hd0rwoz.jpg)


This is horrible, could it have happened in transit? How was the box it shipped in and how well was it packed? I'd like to help, but I haven't heard back from Alex yet.

There was no damage to the soft shell case, or the bubble wrap inside/outside of it.  Must have just been overlooked  :(

That's crazy. Rip QC. I assume you've reached out about getting it replaced?

Yeah, still waiting on a reply.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Thu, 11 April 2019, 09:50:23
Still no shipping invoice for my WKL Poseidon Blue :/
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Thu, 11 April 2019, 09:51:11
Still no shipping invoice for my WKL Poseidon Blue :/

Same. :/
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Nigolski on Thu, 11 April 2019, 11:50:17
some fresh photatos of my kira case hope everyone gets theirs soon!

(https://i.imgur.com/Sco7u7v.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wENxseO.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: takai on Thu, 11 April 2019, 18:18:30
I got shipping invoice and paid. But not shipped yet.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 11 April 2019, 18:23:00
some fresh photatos of my kira case hope everyone gets theirs soon!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Sco7u7v.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/wENxseO.jpg)


good color
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 11 April 2019, 18:32:35
some fresh photatos of my kira case hope everyone gets theirs soon!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Sco7u7v.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/wENxseO.jpg)


Nice, was yours a priority unit?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: xoxox1029 on Thu, 11 April 2019, 23:02:02
not yet received shipping invoice nor replies for refund for my red WKL+extra brass plate..... lol so sad to see that kira with chunked off corner... i don't even know if zfrontier gonna change you with a new one since they are just too busy to even reply to our email
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Nigolski on Fri, 12 April 2019, 00:46:46
some fresh photatos of my kira case hope everyone gets theirs soon!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Sco7u7v.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/wENxseO.jpg)


Nice, was yours a priority unit?
nope
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: ullr on Fri, 12 April 2019, 17:38:54
My gripe is that the screws for fixing the plate on mine are unbelievably tight in the holes

You basically have to strip them to get them in enough to hold the plate to the top
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: DoesItReallyMatter on Fri, 12 April 2019, 20:13:57
My gripe is that the screws for fixing the plate on mine are unbelievably tight in the holes

You basically have to strip them to get them in enough to hold the plate to the top
Had same problem, ended up using some washers.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 12 April 2019, 21:00:00
My gripe is that the screws for fixing the plate on mine are unbelievably tight in the holes

You basically have to strip them to get them in enough to hold the plate to the top

i started realizing the manufacturers lack in the threading department i chase all the threads in every case i buy with a tap and clean them up then dab some oil inhtem to make life easier and ensure i dont get stripped holes.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Choppersuey on Fri, 12 April 2019, 22:16:31
i started realizing the manufacturers lack in the threading department i chase all the threads in every case i buy with a tap and clean them up then dab some oil inhtem to make life easier and ensure i dont get stripped holes.

What tap size and what kind of screws did you use?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: aszyd on Fri, 12 April 2019, 23:08:00
The only area that I have had a problem with so far is the alu back plate. I can get the screws in and out, but there is a section in the middle of the threading that is tough to get past.

Whatever happened with the Kira S 10 key? I realized I might want one after all.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 12 April 2019, 23:39:59
Screws should all be M3, that's what I used for my prototype and I don't think EVE changed them. No word from zF yet, I don't have any updates.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Fri, 12 April 2019, 23:55:23
yeah, all M3 and i use stainless hardware from an RC company i deal with, they use the same hardware and sell them with different heads and lengths.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Choppersuey on Sat, 13 April 2019, 00:07:58
Thanks, thesis and jkush!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: takai on Sat, 13 April 2019, 05:18:43
Received a second shipping invoice  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Solved
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Hamel on Tue, 16 April 2019, 07:19:46
Has anyone who joined the priority buy received an shipping invoice yet?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Tue, 16 April 2019, 07:58:43
Has anyone who joined the priority buy received an shipping invoice yet?
Priority buy participant here. No invoice yet.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Tue, 16 April 2019, 08:35:40
Has anyone who joined the priority buy received an shipping invoice yet?
Priority buy participant here. No invoice yet.

Same here, no invoice nor mail reply. Not sure what the point of the priority buy was if everyone else are getting their boards ahead of time. Don't think they would need 2-4 extra weeks just to engrave the numbers. I'm sure we will all get it eventually, but it's frustrating.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: jumpmineralwater on Tue, 16 April 2019, 09:10:44
Joined for a priority board and still waiting for a shipping invoice.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Tue, 16 April 2019, 09:12:49
Same. Priority buy, Poseidon blue, brass and alu plates - no invoice or email communication.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 16 April 2019, 10:36:03
Priority buyer for moon grey. Received and paid invoice more than a week ago but no tracking or communication.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Hamel on Wed, 17 April 2019, 06:08:03
Has anyone who joined the priority buy received an shipping invoice yet?
Update: Received a DHL tracking few hours ago, deep black, priority buy.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vafan on Wed, 17 April 2019, 21:35:38
Paid the shipping invoice about 2 weeks ago and have no tracking info for now.

Update: Well, 5 hours after this post. I got a call from DHL. No tracking mail or anything. What a surprise!

And here you are

https://imgur.com/a/ImmDi6L
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 18 April 2019, 12:18:32
Paid the shipping invoice about 2 weeks ago and have no tracking info for now.

Update: Well, 5 hours after this post. I got a call from DHL. No tracking mail or anything. What a surprise!

And here you are

https://imgur.com/a/ImmDi6L

Wait what. Are you in the US by chance.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Thu, 18 April 2019, 13:01:39
Emailed back and forth with Alex yesterday. He said the rest of the shipping invoices would be going out "soon."

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vafan on Thu, 18 April 2019, 19:35:55
Paid the shipping invoice about 2 weeks ago and have no tracking info for now.

Update: Well, 5 hours after this post. I got a call from DHL. No tracking mail or anything. What a surprise!

And here you are

https://imgur.com/a/ImmDi6L

Wait what. Are you in the US by chance.

I am not, sorry. Asia here
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 18 April 2019, 20:01:47
Paid the shipping invoice about 2 weeks ago and have no tracking info for now.

Update: Well, 5 hours after this post. I got a call from DHL. No tracking mail or anything. What a surprise!

And here you are

https://imgur.com/a/ImmDi6L

You can tell it's from asia cause it actually says kira on the plate smh
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vafan on Fri, 19 April 2019, 02:13:33
Paid the shipping invoice about 2 weeks ago and have no tracking info for now.

Update: Well, 5 hours after this post. I got a call from DHL. No tracking mail or anything. What a surprise!

And here you are

https://imgur.com/a/ImmDi6L

You can tell it's from asia cause it actually says kira on the plate smh

I do not buy it through Asia channel, its International channel.

Btw, any suggestion for keycaps color? Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Choppersuey on Fri, 19 April 2019, 02:57:22
Built mine two days ago with Tangerines:
(https://i.imgur.com/TZK8mDZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/j9ATcAV.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 19 April 2019, 03:14:49
Built mine two days ago with Tangerines:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/99qLjwf.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/w4SJGfY.jpg)


second pic is very good
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: yap68 on Fri, 19 April 2019, 03:47:55
Paid the shipping invoice about 2 weeks ago and have no tracking info for now.

Update: Well, 5 hours after this post. I got a call from DHL. No tracking mail or anything. What a surprise!

And here you are

https://imgur.com/a/ImmDi6L

Does the Poseidon Blue look ok to you?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 19 April 2019, 09:44:58
Built mine two days ago with Tangerines:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TZK8mDZ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/j9ATcAV.jpg)


Moon grey is really clean :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: spyruf on Fri, 19 April 2019, 10:34:30
Built mine two days ago with Tangerines:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TZK8mDZ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/j9ATcAV.jpg)

Muted with 9009 accents ?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: okidna on Fri, 19 April 2019, 11:00:24
Built mine two days ago with Tangerines:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TZK8mDZ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/j9ATcAV.jpg)

Muted with 9009 accents ?

I think that's EPBT 9009, judging by the stacked Prt Sc | Sys Rq & Pause | Break legend.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Choppersuey on Fri, 19 April 2019, 11:09:28
Muted with 9009 accents ?
just ePBT 9009
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 19 April 2019, 11:43:12
Built mine two days ago with Tangerines:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TZK8mDZ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/j9ATcAV.jpg)


That's clean af. Kinda sad to see that the "grey" really did turn out to be just silver though .
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: iEatPuppers on Sun, 21 April 2019, 02:43:04
Any advice on the screws? Joining the plate to the top seems super difficult without stripping the screw heads.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 21 April 2019, 12:20:39
Just went to build one of my boards and realized the USB port on one of my PCB's is smashed and pretty much unfixable, anywhwere i can buy a new one and just de solder this one? or should i hit up ZF and just pray they feel like helping me.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 21 April 2019, 14:04:19
Just went to build one of my boards and realized the USB port on one of my PCB's is smashed and pretty much unfixable, anywhwere i can buy a new one and just de solder this one? or should i hit up ZF and just pray they feel like helping me.

you can always buy hiney's pcb and just use that.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 21 April 2019, 14:28:03
Just went to build one of my boards and realized the USB port on one of my PCB's is smashed and pretty much unfixable, anywhwere i can buy a new one and just de solder this one? or should i hit up ZF and just pray they feel like helping me.

you can always buy hiney's pcb and just use that.

i recommend this option

send him a pm he prolly has a few extra kicking around

EDIT: i took some liberty and just messaged him and he doesn't have any

but switchmod absolutely does have some
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 21 April 2019, 15:43:22
Just went to build one of my boards and realized the USB port on one of my PCB's is smashed and pretty much unfixable, anywhwere i can buy a new one and just de solder this one? or should i hit up ZF and just pray they feel like helping me.

Regardless of how you go about it, I'd recommend contacting zfrontier about getting a replacement. It's not like the kit was cheap. It's pretty ridiculous to pay and get a broken pcb and just leave it at that. Definitely see about getting it replaced
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 21 April 2019, 17:34:43
Just went to build one of my boards and realized the USB port on one of my PCB's is smashed and pretty much unfixable, anywhwere i can buy a new one and just de solder this one? or should i hit up ZF and just pray they feel like helping me.

Regardless of how you go about it, I'd recommend contacting zfrontier about getting a replacement. It's not like the kit was cheap. It's pretty ridiculous to pay and get a broken pcb and just leave it at that. Definitely see about getting it replaced

yeah ill send ZF a message and see what can be done im not in a rush its my spare pcb for my brass plate but i do want it fixed so when i want to build that plate i can. i may order a few usb mini ports and try to fix it my self tho too. 
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Mon, 22 April 2019, 00:13:57
Still no shipping invoice for "priority" Poseidon Blue, jesus
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: schlep on Mon, 22 April 2019, 08:44:53
Still no shipping invoice for "priority" Poseidon Blue, jesus

Where are you located? I haven't received mine either and mine is the same colour as yours. Could it be due to the colour?

I emailed zFrontier abt 2 weeks ago and he said he will send me an invoice soon. That was on April 8th and until now I have not received any shipping invoice nor the board.

I am based in Singapore by the way.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Mon, 22 April 2019, 11:43:37
No shipping invoice for my poseidon blue either. Located in Belgium.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Mon, 22 April 2019, 11:45:32
Same here except I haven't bothered to email because what's the point?


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 22 April 2019, 20:26:22
wild, sent ZF a complaint on my kira pcb, alex responded in about 20 minutes and said hell have a replacement on the way this next Monday. didn't ask about my priority board i probably should have.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vafan on Mon, 22 April 2019, 20:57:22
Paid the shipping invoice about 2 weeks ago and have no tracking info for now.

Update: Well, 5 hours after this post. I got a call from DHL. No tracking mail or anything. What a surprise!

And here you are

https://imgur.com/a/ImmDi6L

Does the Poseidon Blue look ok to you?

It's good, however for me this colour is quite hard to find the keyset.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 22 April 2019, 20:57:50
Alex hasn’t responded to my messages, I can see they’re still shipping albeit slowly. I assume several people who have not received a shipping invoice was assigned a board with issues. There really is nothing for me to share, but I will keep trying to reach zF.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Tue, 23 April 2019, 12:48:03
Still no shipping invoice for "priority" Poseidon Blue, jesus

Where are you located? I haven't received mine either and mine is the same colour as yours. Could it be due to the colour?

I emailed zFrontier abt 2 weeks ago and he said he will send me an invoice soon. That was on April 8th and until now I have not received any shipping invoice nor the board.

I am based in Singapore by the way.

Also in SEA, and yeah I believe the delay is mainly because of our colour.

FYI I got an email from Alex, saying the invoice should be going out this week. Will let you know when I get mine  :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: takai on Tue, 23 April 2019, 18:10:24
I got my board last week and found some scratches on the plate.
zF quality control seems not good.

thesiscamper: do you have plan to share plate data?

(https://i.imgur.com/WzLW486.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Wed, 24 April 2019, 10:06:53
I love how these guys (zfrontier) just think that we need to be attentive to their every whim, on their schedule, with no clue as to when things will happen.

Im heading out of the country (for an extended period of time) next week and now I have to bring my electronics to constantly check my email daily to pay this shipping invoice whenever they feel like sending it. So i can actually get my damn keyboard that I paid for.


Boycotting zfrontier, and smearing this joke-of-a-company every chance I get. Incompetence, 0 communication, emails ignored, 0 customer service.

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 24 April 2019, 18:40:32
I got my board last week and found some scratches on the plate.
zF quality control seems not good.

thesiscamper: do you have plan to share plate data?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/WzLW486.jpg)


I don't think EVE changed anything (ie. screw holes), I've attached the file.

edit: to the guy who downloaded the earlier file this new attachment might work better.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: takai on Thu, 25 April 2019, 00:27:16
You’ve really helped me out here. Thanks so much!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 26 April 2019, 07:13:51
EVE just informed me through Louis that zF should be shipping out the numpads within 15 to 20 days, he doesn't know the plan for the kits with the wrong colors though. He also apologized for his mistakes and promises to take customers more seriously.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Okonomiyaki#2832 on Fri, 26 April 2019, 10:40:23
EVE just informed me through Louis that zF should be shipping out the numpads within 15 to 20 days, he doesn't know the plan for the kits with the wrong colors though. He also apologized for his mistakes and promises to take customers more seriously.

Saw a similar notice on QQ, zf had contacted Eve and promised to send the payment for the numpads. Should the payment arrive, the numpads will shipped out within 15 to 20 days. Apologies for the delay, on behalf of zf.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Tue, 30 April 2019, 03:21:27
Still no shipping invoice for "priority" Poseidon Blue, jesus

Where are you located? I haven't received mine either and mine is the same colour as yours. Could it be due to the colour?

I emailed zFrontier abt 2 weeks ago and he said he will send me an invoice soon. That was on April 8th and until now I have not received any shipping invoice nor the board.

I am based in Singapore by the way.

Also in SEA, and yeah I believe the delay is mainly because of our colour.

FYI I got an email from Alex, saying the invoice should be going out this week. Will let you know when I get mine  :)

Did you get an invoice? Nothing here so far, and no reply to mails. I picked Poseidon Blue case and Pearl Blue plate, both "problem" colors. Maybe Pearl Blue is holding my order back, but who knows since there's no communication? I've seen Poseidon Blue Kira TKL go up on mechmarket already, and my "priority" GB board might not even be finished...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Tue, 30 April 2019, 11:20:43
I got my board last week and found some scratches on the plate.
zF quality control seems not good.

thesiscamper: do you have plan to share plate data?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/WzLW486.jpg)


I don't think EVE changed anything (ie. screw holes), I've attached the file.

edit: to the guy who downloaded the earlier file this new attachment might work better.

Hi thesis, do you have an ANSI plate file by chance? Looking to make a POM plate if or when I eventually get this kit.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Tue, 30 April 2019, 21:22:16
EVE just informed me through Louis that zF should be shipping out the numpads within 15 to 20 days, he doesn't know the plan for the kits with the wrong colors though. He also apologized for his mistakes and promises to take customers more seriously.
wait what there shipping them next week but i didnt get to buy one did i miss the buy or?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Thu, 02 May 2019, 02:19:11
Kek, at this rate, I'll have my canoe faster than the Kira, which was purchases months and months later.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Thu, 02 May 2019, 06:34:35
EVE just informed me through Louis that zF should be shipping out the numpads within 15 to 20 days, he doesn't know the plan for the kits with the wrong colors though. He also apologized for his mistakes and promises to take customers more seriously.
wait what there shipping them next week but i didnt get to buy one did i miss the buy or?

Yeah I’m also a little confused. I didn’t see anything about the numpads for international buyers. I really want one, since I planned to use the combo at work.

Did they produce some in advance? Maybe then I don’t need to worry, that the anodizing is a different shade between both...if the board ever arrives and the numpad goes on sale! :P
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 02 May 2019, 16:58:12
EVE just informed me through Louis that zF should be shipping out the numpads within 15 to 20 days, he doesn't know the plan for the kits with the wrong colors though. He also apologized for his mistakes and promises to take customers more seriously.
wait what there shipping them next week but i didnt get to buy one did i miss the buy or?

Yeah I’m also a little confused. I didn’t see anything about the numpads for international buyers. I really want one, since I planned to use the combo at work.

Did they produce some in advance? Maybe then I don’t need to worry, that the anodizing is a different shade between both...if the board ever arrives and the numpad goes on sale! :P

same here confused and sad if i dont get to buy a numpad thats really what drew me in was being able to make a set, i hope we get a shot at them.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: DoesItReallyMatter on Thu, 02 May 2019, 18:27:26
EVE just informed me through Louis that zF should be shipping out the numpads within 15 to 20 days, he doesn't know the plan for the kits with the wrong colors though. He also apologized for his mistakes and promises to take customers more seriously.
wait what there shipping them next week but i didnt get to buy one did i miss the buy or?

Yeah I’m also a little confused. I didn’t see anything about the numpads for international buyers. I really want one, since I planned to use the combo at work.

Did they produce some in advance? Maybe then I don’t need to worry, that the anodizing is a different shade between both...if the board ever arrives and the numpad goes on sale! :P

same here confused and sad if i dont get to buy a numpad thats really what drew me in was being able to make a set, i hope we get a shot at them.

+1

Bought this board because there was supposed to be a matching numpad.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 02 May 2019, 21:31:38
At this point I have no idea what zF intends to do with the numpads, they haven’t replied to my queries for weeks now. I leave a message maybe once or twice a week and receive no replies.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: proboy84 on Fri, 03 May 2019, 00:18:43
Paid shipping invoice for a month now still no sign of shipment
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Sat, 04 May 2019, 00:24:59
Still no shipping invoice for "priority" Poseidon Blue, jesus

Where are you located? I haven't received mine either and mine is the same colour as yours. Could it be due to the colour?

I emailed zFrontier abt 2 weeks ago and he said he will send me an invoice soon. That was on April 8th and until now I have not received any shipping invoice nor the board.

I am based in Singapore by the way.

Also in SEA, and yeah I believe the delay is mainly because of our colour.

FYI I got an email from Alex, saying the invoice should be going out this week. Will let you know when I get mine  :)

Did you get an invoice? Nothing here so far, and no reply to mails. I picked Poseidon Blue case and Pearl Blue plate, both "problem" colors. Maybe Pearl Blue is holding my order back, but who knows since there's no communication? I've seen Poseidon Blue Kira TKL go up on mechmarket already, and my "priority" GB board might not even be finished...
Nothing here either. Been checking daily.

I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the priority boards are more affected by delays than the regulars. The custom numbers are bound to complicate sorting and shipping. Could be wrong, but so far I haven’t seen anyone show off their priority boards.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 04 May 2019, 11:00:24
At this point I have no idea what zF intends to do with the numpads, they haven’t replied to my queries for weeks now. I leave a message maybe once or twice a week and receive no replies.

thanks for trying at least man, its weird sometimes i get replies other times not.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Sat, 04 May 2019, 13:47:25
So...it's May, I paid my invoice more than a month ago and emailed Alex a couple times. Trying to be patient but radio silence is kinda irksome.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Sat, 04 May 2019, 13:59:44
Still havent received shipping invoice for my priority board either

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Sun, 05 May 2019, 22:02:14
PS my Kira Looks great with Troubled Minds, hope my priority board gets shipped soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 06 May 2019, 03:23:40
PS my Kira Looks great with Troubled Minds, hope my priority board gets shipped soon.

pics please
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 07 May 2019, 04:38:46
Hi guys, I just got word from EVE. He said he received zF’s order list for the parts that need to be reworked, EVE is waiting for the shipment so he can start working on them. He also said zF submitted the order for numpads but haven’t paid for them. That’s about it for this time.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: schlep on Mon, 13 May 2019, 09:34:10
The wait is ridiculously long. I ordered Poseidon Blue from the priority buy and I have not received anything yet. I don't know if this post makes any difference to the wait but I do hope someone from Zf is silently following this forum post and updating their bosses.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 15 May 2019, 07:07:41
EVE has started fixing the parts sent back to him,, he says he can finish these and ship them back b y the end of the month.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 15 May 2019, 12:07:37
EVE has started fixing the parts sent back to him,, he says he can finish these and ship them back b y the end of the month.

By "ship them back," he is referring to shipping it back to zFrontier, not to us, correct?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 15 May 2019, 17:16:36
EVE has started fixing the parts sent back to him,, he says he can finish these and ship them back b y the end of the month.

By "ship them back," he is referring to shipping it back to zFrontier, not to us, correct?

Yes, that is correct.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 15 May 2019, 21:30:08
EVE has started fixing the parts sent back to him,, he says he can finish these and ship them back b y the end of the month.

By "ship them back," he is referring to shipping it back to zFrontier, not to us, correct?

Yes, that is correct.

(https://i.imgur.com/DNsXXq9.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 23 May 2019, 14:20:05
Got my order cancelled but I was surprised to this today. Super potato of this for now, I'll post pics when it's done :p

[attach=1]




Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Thu, 23 May 2019, 14:23:56
Got my order cancelled but I was surprised to this today. Super potato of this for now, I'll post pics when it's done :p

(Attachment Link)

I'm so curious now - were you on the 'priority GB'? What color did you get? 
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 23 May 2019, 14:26:37
Got my order cancelled but I was surprised to this today. Super potato of this for now, I'll post pics when it's done :p

(Attachment Link)

I'm so curious now - were you on the 'priority GB'? What color did you get?

I didn't obtain this from the gb, technically it's a one of one. but I got black with hard anode!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 24 May 2019, 02:42:18
For what it's worth: I talked to kingnestea, who talked to EVE and nestea confirmed what thesis has said here as well: parts have been sent back to EVE for rework. If there's no update within a week, I'll check back for more news.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 24 May 2019, 12:56:35
Got my order cancelled but I was surprised to this today. Super potato of this for now, I'll post pics when it's done :p

(Attachment Link)

I'm so curious now - were you on the 'priority GB'? What color did you get?

I didn't obtain this from the gb, technically it's a one of one. but I got black with hard anode!

So confused as to what is going on with this buy now...interesting board though.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 24 May 2019, 16:22:40
Got my order cancelled but I was surprised to this today. Super potato of this for now, I'll post pics when it's done :p

(Attachment Link)

I'm so curious now - were you on the 'priority GB'? What color did you get?

I didn't obtain this from the gb, technically it's a one of one. but I got black with hard anode!

So confused as to what is going on with this buy now...interesting board though.

Hard anode and engraving I went out and outsourced it. The board I picked up from someone else.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: nasp on Fri, 24 May 2019, 18:14:33
EVE just informed me through Louis that zF should be shipping out the numpads within 15 to 20 days, he doesn't know the plan for the kits with the wrong colors though. He also apologized for his mistakes and promises to take customers more seriously.
wait what there shipping them next week but i didnt get to buy one did i miss the buy or?

Yeah I’m also a little confused. I didn’t see anything about the numpads for international buyers. I really want one, since I planned to use the combo at work.

Did they produce some in advance? Maybe then I don’t need to worry, that the anodizing is a different shade between both...if the board ever arrives and the numpad goes on sale! :P



We need some more pics dude! Hard and and engraving?! Hell yeah!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 24 May 2019, 19:51:14
If that reply was for me, dw. There will be a proper album, just need some time/need to recover :-\ I’m itching to build this up!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: jumpmineralwater on Mon, 27 May 2019, 21:54:54
There is an update here: https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-may-27-2019

Quote
KIRA TKL

Most orders fulfilled, the remaining one are now being fixed by EVE. Shipping ETA: mid to late June.

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Tue, 28 May 2019, 14:30:14
There is an update here: https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-may-27-2019

Quote
KIRA TKL

Most orders fulfilled, the remaining one are now being fixed by EVE. Shipping ETA: mid to late June.

So september?  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 28 May 2019, 16:38:12
There is an update here: https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-may-27-2019

Quote
KIRA TKL

Most orders fulfilled, the remaining one are now being fixed by EVE. Shipping ETA: mid to late June.

So september?  :confused:

Shhh, dont jinx it
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: vafan on Tue, 04 June 2019, 21:15:06
Do you guys think GMK Hummerhead will match with Poseidon Blue?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: proboy84 on Sun, 09 June 2019, 13:29:46
YESSSSS!!!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Mon, 17 June 2019, 12:51:51
Any news on the rest of the kits?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Tue, 18 June 2019, 03:44:25
Any news on the rest of the kits?
Last update said end of the month, so I'm thinking it'll be at least a week longer before we can start expecting/hoping for updates.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 19 June 2019, 23:38:11
I hope the remaining kits ship out soon, I tried to get an update but have been unsuccessful.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 20 June 2019, 04:11:16
I hope the remaining kits ship out soon, I tried to get an update but have been unsuccessful.

Thanks for trying! zF aren't responding to my mails even if they're unrelated to this buy. They have to get their community goodwill back if I am ever going to get into one of their GB's again. I'm sure a lot of people feel the same by now.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 25 June 2019, 21:23:42
Late June now. Anyone have any update on this? It's just laughable for me at this point that there are still people with the "easier" colors and prio slots who still havent received their boards.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 26 June 2019, 23:24:30
Late June now. Anyone have any update on this? It's just laughable for me at this point that there are still people with the "easier" colors and prio slots who still havent received their boards.

No replies unfortunately, I’ll keep trying to reach them.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 30 June 2019, 20:13:17
Late June now. Anyone have any update on this? It's just laughable for me at this point that there are still people with the "easier" colors and prio slots who still havent received their boards.

No replies unfortunately, I’ll keep trying to reach them.

Do they have a discord channel by chance or is email really the best bet when trying to contact them? It's pretty much the last day of June with still 0 updates.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 03 July 2019, 12:07:34
I checked with someone I know who deals with EVE to ask about the status of the Kira80s. His response was "EVE said soonish". That's all I got...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Wed, 03 July 2019, 12:08:25
I checked with someone I know who deals with EVE to ask about the status of the Kira80s. His response was "EVE said soonish". That's all I got...
October 2020 confirmed.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 04 July 2019, 00:40:35
I checked with someone I know who deals with EVE to ask about the status of the Kira80s. His response was "EVE said soonish". That's all I got...

"soonish"...hmmm, it looks like they're trying to beat their record with elemento for most delayed gb with radio silence.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: OracleKev on Thu, 04 July 2019, 01:27:08
I checked with someone I know who deals with EVE to ask about the status of the Kira80s. His response was "EVE said soonish". That's all I got...

"soonish"...hmmm, it looks like they're trying to beat their record with elemento for most delayed gb with radio silence.

Almost successful in redefining "priority"  :(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Tue, 09 July 2019, 10:40:25
Quote
KIRA TKL

We will fulfill the remaining orders and remaining replacement requests in mid July.

https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-july-8th-2019
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 09 July 2019, 16:07:57
Looks like numpads will be available too
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Tue, 09 July 2019, 17:57:55
Quote
KIRA TKL

We will fulfill the remaining orders and remaining replacement requests in mid July.

https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-july-8th-2019
Thanks for the update! That's in 5-6 days though. Got absolutely zero faith in that being true. But I hope I am wrong  :))


Looks like numpads will be available too
Question is if they will be available for sale, or if they're readily manufactured for whoever was able to order it at the GB stage?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 09 July 2019, 20:11:49
Looks like numpads will be available too

lmao there is no way im giving ZF another penny
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 09 July 2019, 23:01:33
I just got info, parts are done they all just need to be QCed. Hopefully they’ll be ready to ship to zF this week.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 10 July 2019, 01:05:24
I really hope we get absolute confirmed dates soon. I'll be moving in August and with zfrontiers garbage tier communication, I fear I wouldn't be able to get my shipping address changed.

On a side note, thanks to thesis for the continuous updates.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Sat, 13 July 2019, 23:31:14
Thesis, I really cant get in contact with them. Do you know a way I can get my shipping address changed? I'm not going to take my chances with this.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Sun, 14 July 2019, 10:52:55
For once, hoping that it'll actually take a couple weeks to get the board here. I'm on holiday for three weeks, leaving Wednesday... Though I can probaby count on Belgian customs, they held my Canoe for 4 weeks as well...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 14 July 2019, 14:31:08
Thesis, I really cant get in contact with them. Do you know a way I can get my shipping address changed? I'm not going to take my chances with this.

Hope this gets resolved for you :-[
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 16 July 2019, 05:52:11
Thesis, I really cant get in contact with them. Do you know a way I can get my shipping address changed? I'm not going to take my chances with this.

I’ll try to pass this info along, PM me the details. Do keep in mind that I can’t communicate with them directly too, or rather I don’t get replies directly.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Tue, 16 July 2019, 21:39:30
Thesis, I really cant get in contact with them. Do you know a way I can get my shipping address changed? I'm not going to take my chances with this.

I’ll try to pass this info along, PM me the details. Do keep in mind that I can’t communicate with them directly too, or rather I don’t get replies directly.

No worries. Somehow I actually got a response this time around and they confirmed my address change. Thanks though!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Fri, 26 July 2019, 14:28:02
Quote
KIRA TKL

We will fulfill the remaining orders and remaining replacement requests in mid July.

https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-july-8th-2019

So here we are again, 18 days later and no update - I'm usually not upset by the lack of updates or setbacks but my patience is starting wear thin now.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 26 July 2019, 20:54:15
Quote
KIRA TKL

We will fulfill the remaining orders and remaining replacement requests in mid July.

https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-july-8th-2019

So here we are again, 18 days later and no update - I'm usually not upset by the lack of updates or setbacks but my patience is starting wear thin now.

Wish I could say I'm surprised
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Mon, 29 July 2019, 13:17:34
It's almost getting silly at this point. Wouldn't have been so bothered if zFrontier were actually doing status reports.

On a brighter note, how do people that got their boards feel about it? Hope it's all you wanted it to be! Please post some photos for us that are still waiting  :)

And thanks to Thesiscamper for all work put in both designing the board and trying to communicate with zF  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Wed, 31 July 2019, 14:20:31
From Zf's email newsletter:

Quote
Here are some long overdue projects and issues that we are striving to solve in the coming month...

Remaining Kira TKL and Meteor Kits - working on getting the replacements back


So they dont appear to have gotten them back from manufacturer yet.

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 01 August 2019, 18:18:47
I'll keep on trying to reach both zF and EVE to understand what is really happening with the rest of the kits, I've been busy at work so I haven't been around in a while.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 03 August 2019, 02:36:26
i just want my dang priority board. cuz i really like my regular one.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Sun, 04 August 2019, 10:03:56
From what I understand, the boards are still with EVE.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 12 August 2019, 18:08:13
Sorry guys, neither one of them has replied to my queries... I apologize for a new reply notification with no real news.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: nasp on Mon, 12 August 2019, 19:06:04
Sorry guys, neither one of them has replied to my queries... I apologize for a new reply notification with no real news.

An update with no news is better than no update at all. Thanks for your persistence!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 21 August 2019, 01:29:21
From what I understand, at this point it's not even just zFrontier, but also EVE who's become quite unreliable in their communication...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 August 2019, 10:02:53
From what I understand, at this point it's not even just zFrontier, but also EVE who's become quite unreliable in their communication...

It took over a year to get MIRA replacements. EVE has been running GBs in china with no problems too.

:Thinking:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 21 August 2019, 12:13:25
From what I understand, at this point it's not even just zFrontier, but also EVE who's become quite unreliable in their communication...

It took over a year to get MIRA replacements. EVE has been running GBs in china with no problems too.

:Thinking:

At this point it’s obvious the could care less about what happens with our buys. I don’t understand why people continue to support this trash company
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 21 August 2019, 13:23:00
Yeah, I wasn't aware of the issues with Eve/zFrontier buys. Needless to say, this is my last buy from them.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 22 August 2019, 18:57:57
Some news, finally. EVE said the reworked sets should be ready to ship today (Friday in Asia). He said the original anodizing shop closed down, banned for not adhering to pollution standards if I understand it correctly... and that their government has been cracking down on these businesses and it has slowed things down a lot. The chat was a mixture of Google translate and vague statements so I might have misunderstood some points.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 22 August 2019, 21:46:15
Some news, finally. EVE said the reworked sets should be ready to ship today (Friday in Asia). He said the original anodizing shop closed down, banned for not adhering to pollution standards if I understand it correctly... and that their government has been cracking down on these businesses and it has slowed things down a lot. The chat was a mixture of Google translate and vague statements so I might have misunderstood some points.

this is the same thing he said last time there was a big delay like this

but honestly it's consistent with other things i've been hearing so i'd buy it

at least things are moving
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: BlindWitness on Sun, 25 August 2019, 20:43:36
For the folks that have gotten their Kira, have any you found any issues with your PCB? It looks like I got lucky here (https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT) https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT

Think it's worth reaching back out to zFrontier or see if I could take my chances with a hineybush PCB at this point? Highly doubt I'll be able to find a spare original out in the wild.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: iEatPuppers on Sun, 25 August 2019, 21:12:49
For the folks that have gotten their Kira, have any you found any issues with your PCB? It looks like I got lucky here
Show Image
(https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT)
https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT

Think it's worth reaching back out to zFrontier or see if I could take my chances with a hineybush PCB at this point? Highly doubt I'll be able to find a spare original out in the wild.
Do you mean unlucky? Anywho, I got two pcbs' and they were both fine. My issue was with the tight threading.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: BlindWitness on Sun, 25 August 2019, 21:20:34
For the folks that have gotten their Kira, have any you found any issues with your PCB? It looks like I got lucky here
Show Image
(https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT)
https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT

Think it's worth reaching back out to zFrontier or see if I could take my chances with a hineybush PCB at this point? Highly doubt I'll be able to find a spare original out in the wild.
Do you mean unlucky? Anywho, I got two pcbs' and they were both fine. My issue was with the tight threading.

Sarcasm over the internet never works well haha. Was looking forward to building tonight but looks like I'll just be waiting on zFrontier again
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 26 August 2019, 11:31:44
For the folks that have gotten their Kira, have any you found any issues with your PCB? It looks like I got lucky here
Show Image
(https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT)
https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT

Think it's worth reaching back out to zFrontier or see if I could take my chances with a hineybush PCB at this point? Highly doubt I'll be able to find a spare original out in the wild.

dead diodes, just replace em and it should be good as new

can't hurt to reach out to zf tho
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 26 August 2019, 14:01:06
If nothing works, h87a is perfect for this board
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: iEatPuppers on Mon, 26 August 2019, 22:32:59
If nothing works, h87a is perfect for this board
Do you know if the hiney fr4 plates are also compatible?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 27 August 2019, 00:53:45
If nothing works, h87a is perfect for this board
Do you know if the hiney fr4 plates are also compatible?

No idea honestly. It would be cool to try though
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 27 August 2019, 09:34:12
If nothing works, h87a is perfect for this board
Do you know if the hiney fr4 plates are also compatible?

i'm about 80% sure this board just uses jane/orion plate, so it should work
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 27 August 2019, 09:40:01
If nothing works, h87a is perfect for this board
Do you know if the hiney fr4 plates are also compatible?

i'm about 80% sure this board just uses jane/orion plate, so it should work


Im about 100% sure pudsy doesn't know what the hell hes talking about 80% of the time. Be gone rat.

and no this board does not fit the jane plates
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 27 August 2019, 10:48:47
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/330453493682929665/615935611450163221/bJsFGUk.png?width=662&height=497)

next time bring pictures

plate file might be a bit tough to pin down for this one

for reference, here is a jane/orion(v1 or 2, 3 doesn't have the big tab) plate

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/330453493682929665/615935916070010890/unknown.png)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: iEatPuppers on Wed, 28 August 2019, 01:02:27
Does anybody have an unwanted plate that I could buy?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Mon, 02 September 2019, 05:42:42
Some news, finally. EVE said the reworked sets should be ready to ship today (Friday in Asia). He said the original anodizing shop closed down, banned for not adhering to pollution standards if I understand it correctly... and that their government has been cracking down on these businesses and it has slowed things down a lot. The chat was a mixture of Google translate and vague statements so I might have misunderstood some points.
Any news if they've actually shipped?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 02 September 2019, 20:57:17
Some news, finally. EVE said the reworked sets should be ready to ship today (Friday in Asia). He said the original anodizing shop closed down, banned for not adhering to pollution standards if I understand it correctly... and that their government has been cracking down on these businesses and it has slowed things down a lot. The chat was a mixture of Google translate and vague statements so I might have misunderstood some points.
Any news if they've actually shipped?

I just had a short chat with EVE and he told me he shipped the parts and the shipment is on its way. He stopped replying after I asked when it will reach zFrontier.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Wed, 11 September 2019, 17:22:28
this is a real drag i want my priority board, im using the hell out of my regular kira80.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Thu, 12 September 2019, 00:20:43
After boarderline harassment from me, I have squeezed a vague update out of Alex Lin by going to the china ZF site and using their support channels to force an email out of Alex. This is what I received:

"Kira boards are still going out. But I cannot ship them out without EVE shipping the brass weights back to me. They delayed the weight's shipping for months :("
 
"I am currently contacting EVE to check on the shipping status. Hopefully he will get back to me soon."


It seems like there is contradictory info coming from both parties. Would love to know what is actually going on with this!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: idlemao on Thu, 12 September 2019, 10:12:35
Anyone have a numpad to sell?

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Thu, 12 September 2019, 10:25:46
Mhm...really sad that the communication is so difficult and even conflicting sometimes...

Wasn’t completely satisfied with my Moon from Eve and my Grid600 from zfrontier got lost and they didn’t insure it... Guess I’ll pass every Gb from these two from now on. But thanks to Thesis for the great design and thanks for trying to get us new info and our boards. Hopefully the wait will be worth it in the end.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 12 September 2019, 12:37:47
After boarderline harassment from me, I have squeezed a vague update out of Alex Lin by going to the china ZF site and using their support channels to force an email out of Alex. This is what I received:

"Kira boards are still going out. But I cannot ship them out without EVE shipping the brass weights back to me. They delayed the weight's shipping for months :("
 
"I am currently contacting EVE to check on the shipping status. Hopefully he will get back to me soon."


It seems like there is contradictory info coming from both parties. Would love to know what is actually going on with this!

Doing god's work, getting some info. There's no way they don't realize that this level of communication is ridiculous. Man, I just really want this board and for this nightmare roller coaster to end.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Thu, 12 September 2019, 12:40:47
This just occurred to me today - I initially ordered this board almost 15 months ago. Hopeful that we won't hit the 1.5 years mark.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Thu, 12 September 2019, 13:09:11
So I replied to his email linking thesiscampers latest update and told him:


"According to EVE, he has shipped these parts to you (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96381.msg2806377#msg2806377)"



and Alex replied with:

"We did not receive any shipping update from him until now:

EVE just told me that he will be shipping the parts to me after this weekend. I will keep bugging him on the process."


A little progress I guess? EVE and Alex both seem to be full of ****. It also shows that ALEX IS READING THIS THREAD AND NOT UPDATING US ON PURPOSE


Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 12 September 2019, 19:15:28
I'm genuinely confused, like really really curious. Is it truly that difficult to update us on the status of the boards after a bunch of people spend $400+ on it and it passes the deadline for shipment? I mean, I really want to know their reasoning behind their lack of communication. Do they really have 0 time in the span of an entire year to post a 2 or 3 sentence update?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Fri, 13 September 2019, 09:34:09
Just imagine how much sooner we'd have these boards if everybody would have paid their invoices from the start, at the first original GB attempt. I mean I'm glad we got another chance, just wish that it wasn't picked up by z(start more GB's before finishing previous ones)Frontier.

In 14 days it's been a year since zF got my money. Right now it feels like they're just keeping them. Why finalize GB's when you can just start new ones and keep that money train going? Choo choo!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 13 September 2019, 16:11:19
I just wanted to point something out, all these people bad mouthing Zfrontier should really stop. I get people are frustrated and what not, but this is the bottom line.

ZFrontier rep is destroyed
Most People are WAY past any buyer protection
ZFrontier is China based

I mean if ZFrontier decided to say screw it, people have zero recourse. I mean zero, you really can't sue them and who want to. Could file a legal dispute against them maybe. Though there international. I guess you could post there name everywhere but its to late for that. I mean hope people get there board's but maybe people want to back off the hate train. Since things could be a LOT LOT LOT worse.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: clik_clak on Fri, 13 September 2019, 16:20:43
I just wanted to point something out, all these people bad mouthing Zfrontier should really stop. I get people are frustrated and what not, but this is the bottom line.

ZFrontier rep is destroyed
Most People are WAY past any buyer protection
ZFrontier is China based

I mean if ZFrontier decided to say screw it, people have zero recourse. I mean zero, you really can't sue them and who want to. Could file a legal dispute against them maybe. Though there international. I guess you could post there name everywhere but its to late for that. I mean hope people get there board's but maybe people want to back off the hate train. Since things could be a LOT LOT LOT worse.

So people should stop because they have no legal recourse? You realize how silly that sounds, right?

To be perfectly frank, if zfrontier communicated in threads, answered emails, tried in any way to communicate with their buyers, they wouldn't be getting bad-mouthed and their reputation wouldn't be garbage.

Any Zfrontier has brough the bad talking on themselves. Being in another country isn't an excuse.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Fri, 13 September 2019, 19:43:12
Since things could be a LOT LOT LOT worse.

Every single ounce of negative press is earned by ZF in this situation. Their international management is negligent in tons of ways.

Ive been scammed many times over the years in this hobby (including Ivan). Literally the only "recourse" we have is to smear a ****ty company's name so people will stop doing business with them. Dont take some holier then thou stance trying to defend a company that is pulling this type of ****, when you do, this keeps happening.

The funny thing is, is that ZF is much bigger in china and actually cares about their reputation there. When you goto the china ZF site the employees are responsive and will actually help you. Its the american staff that is dropping the ball here and everyone needs to see exactly where the blame lies.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 13 September 2019, 19:56:07
I just wanted to point something out, all these people bad mouthing Zfrontier should really stop. I get people are frustrated and what not, but this is the bottom line.

ZFrontier rep is destroyed
Most People are WAY past any buyer protection
ZFrontier is China based

I mean if ZFrontier decided to say screw it, people have zero recourse. I mean zero, you really can't sue them and who want to. Could file a legal dispute against them maybe. Though there international. I guess you could post there name everywhere but its to late for that. I mean hope people get there board's but maybe people want to back off the hate train. Since things could be a LOT LOT LOT worse.

So people should stop because they have no legal recourse? You realize how silly that sounds, right?

To be perfectly frank, if zfrontier communicated in threads, answered emails, tried in any way to communicate with their buyers, they wouldn't be getting bad-mouthed and their reputation wouldn't be garbage.

Any Zfrontier has brough the bad talking on themselves. Being in another country isn't an excuse.

Since things could be a LOT LOT LOT worse.

Every single ounce of negative press is earned by ZF in this situation. Their international management is negligent in tons of ways.

Ive been scammed many times over the years in this hobby (including Ivan). Literally the only "recourse" we have is to smear a ****ty company's name so people will stop doing business with them. Dont take some holier then thou stance trying to defend a company that is pulling this type of ****, when you do, this keeps happening.

The funny thing is, is that ZF is much bigger in china and actually cares about their reputation there. When you goto the china ZF site the employees are responsive and will actually help you. Its the american staff that is dropping the ball here and everyone needs to see exactly where the blame lies.

I think you both missed the point, the point wasn't they don't deserve it just that .. they have no reason to fill the group buy anymore. They could wash there hands walk away from the American market and people will just be straight up SOL. Kinda what Mechkeys.ca most likely just did to JTK hyperfuse group buy and there other group buys.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Fri, 13 September 2019, 20:50:48
I think you both missed the point, the point wasn't they don't deserve it just that .. they have no reason to fill the group buy anymore. They could wash there hands walk away from the American market and people will just be straight up SOL. Kinda what Mechkeys.ca most likely just did to JTK hyperfuse group buy and there other group buys.


Somehow I cant imagine an international company registered for tax in multiple countries would dip on customers like your trying to say could happen in this situation. It wont.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: clik_clak on Fri, 13 September 2019, 21:36:37
I think you both missed the point, the point wasn't they don't deserve it just that .. they have no reason to fill the group buy anymore. They could wash there hands walk away from the American market and people will just be straight up SOL. Kinda what Mechkeys.ca most likely just did to JTK hyperfuse group buy and there other group buys.


Somehow I cant imagine an international company registered for tax in multiple countries would dip on customers like your trying to say could happen in this situation. It wont.

Isn't Alex (the ZF US rep) in Cali anyways? If that's the case, they are most definitely doing business in the US.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Sat, 14 September 2019, 10:59:09
I just wanted to point something out, all these people bad mouthing Zfrontier should really stop. I get people are frustrated and what not, but this is the bottom line.

ZFrontier rep is destroyed
Most People are WAY past any buyer protection
ZFrontier is China based

I mean if ZFrontier decided to say screw it, people have zero recourse. I mean zero, you really can't sue them and who want to. Could file a legal dispute against them maybe. Though there international. I guess you could post there name everywhere but its to late for that. I mean hope people get there board's but maybe people want to back off the hate train. Since things could be a LOT LOT LOT worse.
So just because we aren’t getting scammed (yet), we are not allowed to complain? Because they might hold our boards hostage if we badmouth them?

Jesus, what kind of logic is that? If they are the type of business to entertain the idea of scamming us, then it’s probably best for the community to see them for what they are - though personally I don’t think they are that dodgy.

Imho most participants have been very understanding about the delays, but I simply feel like everyone’s patience is running low at this point.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 19 September 2019, 22:45:47
Any updates?...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 20 September 2019, 02:28:14
Any updates?...

EVE just told me minutes ago that zF has received the shipment. Alex hasn’t replied to my messages for months, I’ll probably try their local chat groups. I can’t confirm this update at the moment.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 20 September 2019, 05:26:46
There's some communication and things appear to be moving. I'll take that over complete radio silence. Thanks for being a trooper thesis!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 22 September 2019, 21:28:26
So here’s another unverified update from EVE, he already shipped the brass weights mentioned by Alex somewhere above, and that they’re on their way. He also said his shop moved to a new location so the shop hasn’t been producing as much parts as they want. Take both of these statements with a grain of salt, especially since I used Google Translate.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Sun, 22 September 2019, 21:31:34
All these setbacks but the Chinese GB and non priority GB finished within months.. Thanks for keeping on top of this, Thesis.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 22 September 2019, 21:52:20
I’d like to get an idea on how many kits are unfulfilled, so please fill out this from if you’re still waiting for your kits/s. I can’t promise this will help (I think it does help if I know details) so I am not forcing anyone to fill this up, I’m just trying to do what I can.

https://forms.gle/8oKsE3R2W8Macdkd7
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 22 September 2019, 23:16:10
Thesis doing so much for this gb even tho he's not officially affiliated... they should give him commission lol
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: jumpmineralwater on Sun, 22 September 2019, 23:53:42
Thanks thesiscamper :thumb: Filled in the form regarding the unfulfilled kits.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Mon, 23 September 2019, 10:32:23
I’d like to get an idea on how many kits are unfulfilled, so please fill out this from if you’re still waiting for your kits/s. I can’t promise this will help (I think it does help if I know details) so I am not forcing anyone to fill this up, I’m just trying to do what I can.

https://forms.gle/8oKsE3R2W8Macdkd7

filled out.

Also emailed Alex again to see if he got the shipment, doubtful he will respond but if he doesn't respond in 24 hours im going to raise hell on the CN zfronter site again to get an anwser.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 23 September 2019, 20:26:57
Lol, we should all send emails to Alex asking for updates simultaneously, at least one of us should get a response
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 23 September 2019, 21:02:52
That might be a good idea, blast them with emails..
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 24 September 2019, 12:09:16
Holy ****! Alex has replied.

My Email:
"
Alex, EVE has confirmed shiping the brass weights to you (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96381.msg2813412#msg2813412) have you received them?
 
Can we expect shipping soon?
 
Please reply with an update we have waited 15 months to get these boards."


his reply:

"Hi,

Yes, we received them yesterday.

We will begin sorting during the Chinese National holidays and begin fulfillment early October.

Best,"
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Tue, 24 September 2019, 12:10:22
Holy ****! Alex has replied.

My Email:
"
Alex, EVE has confirmed shiping the brass weights to you (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96381.msg2813412#msg2813412) have you received them?
 
Can we expect shipping soon?
 
Please reply with an update we have waited 15 months to get these boards."


his reply:

"Hi,

Yes, we received them yesterday.

We will begin sorting during the Chinese National holidays and begin fulfillment early October.

Best,"
Can't wait to get my board in December!


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Tue, 24 September 2019, 12:50:42
Can't believe we waited out one Chinese holiday (Lunar new year) into the next (Golden Week), very cool
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Tue, 24 September 2019, 14:10:34
That is great news! Thanks for the info redbanshee.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 24 September 2019, 23:59:12
Good to know, I haven’t had any luck getting replies from Alex or Steven. I hope they do get to send the remaining kits soon.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 25 September 2019, 23:14:30
Good to know that the boards will be shipping soon. With this gb, I guess I've learned my lesson...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 30 September 2019, 19:18:14
sad says in there new update that the remaining boards will be shipped after holliday and the num pads, sad we didnt get a chance at the num pads but oh well.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 02 October 2019, 22:39:40
sad says in there new update that the remaining boards will be shipped after holliday and the num pads, sad we didnt get a chance at the num pads but oh well.

Maybe when this GB actually closes I can convince a vendor to do the numpads, even a small GB. Also, I’m waiting for a couple of weeks to see if the remaining sets actually ship before trying to reach zFrontier again.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: idlemao on Wed, 09 October 2019, 07:15:59
Definitely would be interested in a numpad

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:27:46
Also very interested in the numpad.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 17 October 2019, 01:46:29
Time for the weekly check in to see if there are any updates regarding the shipping.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Fri, 18 October 2019, 09:40:18
Emailed Alex yesterday about this:

"Hi,

We are packing the keyboards and shipping invoices should be going out one by one later today :) and shipping shall begin next week.

Sorry for the wait!

Best,"
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Fri, 18 October 2019, 10:26:22
Emailed Alex yesterday about this:

"Hi,

We are packing the keyboards and shipping invoices should be going out one by one later today :) and shipping shall begin next week.

Sorry for the wait!

Best,"

Good news! Can't believe you're getting replies though. I sent a mail yesterday also - no reply. Thanks for bringing the info here.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Fri, 18 October 2019, 11:06:24
Got my invoice. I can't believe this is happening.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Fri, 18 October 2019, 11:15:57
Just paid shipping! :O

Really excited to see the board. Still a little sad we didn’t get a chance for the numpad, but maybe thesis will find a solution for that... ;)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 18 October 2019, 12:02:44
Just paid shipping! :O

Really excited to see the board. Still a little sad we didn’t get a chance for the numpad, but maybe thesis will find a solution for that... ;)

That is crazy. I didn't want to get my hopes up but seeing that you actually got an invoice...
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Fri, 18 October 2019, 12:05:41

Can't believe you're getting replies though.

Pretty sure the only reason I was getting replys is because I went to the china zfrontier website and raised hell with his superiors. Also every email I sent was CC'ed to about 5 different ZF emails. Alex likes to ignore anyone he can, you just have to make sure lots of people at ZF see the email.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Sat, 19 October 2019, 06:56:12
I got and paid my shipping invoice too  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: jumpmineralwater on Mon, 21 October 2019, 08:56:15
Received my shipping invoice and paid.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Tue, 22 October 2019, 03:22:11
Just received my shipping notification. Tracking says it should be in Germany on Thursday. Let’s see if customs will hold it a while longer.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Abstand on Tue, 22 October 2019, 23:14:49
Kind of curious about aftermarket PCB support for this. I understand the hineybush pcb will work but it is not readily available outside of group buys. I have heard that the Suo and Leeku pcbs from TX keyboards will work. Can anybody confirm that this is the case?

Here are the pcbs i'm referring to.

https://gyazo.com/c81c04cc71a57b48d65d0cff6c727300

https://gyazo.com/eeac4288685d6b395011cb5791561f22

They look pretty close to the Kira pcb, and it looks like it "should" fit, but would like to know for sure before I pick one up.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 22 October 2019, 23:32:11
Kind of curious about aftermarket PCB support for this. I understand the hineybush pcb will work but it is not readily available outside of group buys. I have heard that the Suo and Leeku pcbs from TX keyboards will work. Can anybody confirm that this is the case?

Here are the pcbs i'm referring to.

https://gyazo.com/c81c04cc71a57b48d65d0cff6c727300

https://gyazo.com/eeac4288685d6b395011cb5791561f22

They look pretty close to the Kira pcb, and it looks like it "should" fit, but would like to know for sure before I pick one up.



I know the leeku TKL87L3 will fit for sure. The SUO should also fit but is unconfirmed at this time, as long as the kira 80 plate will support both north and south spacebar stabs (it should from looking at pics) then it will fit.


KIRA 80 is also listed on the TKL pcb compatibility list : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GpM--fKeDw_tIDZj4m2jmbMavSyXeOu3QHzfTJwz-IM/edit#gid=0
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Abstand on Tue, 22 October 2019, 23:35:30
Kind of curious about aftermarket PCB support for this. I understand the hineybush pcb will work but it is not readily available outside of group buys. I have heard that the Suo and Leeku pcbs from TX keyboards will work. Can anybody confirm that this is the case?

Here are the pcbs i'm referring to.

https://gyazo.com/c81c04cc71a57b48d65d0cff6c727300

https://gyazo.com/eeac4288685d6b395011cb5791561f22

They look pretty close to the Kira pcb, and it looks like it "should" fit, but would like to know for sure before I pick one up.



I know the leeku TKL87L3 will fit for sure. The SUO should also fit but is unconfirmed at this time, as long as the kira 80 plate will support both north and south spacebar stabs (it should from looking at pics) then it will fit.


KIRA 80 is also listed on the TKL pcb compatibility list (but the new tx keyboards suo isnt listed just yet on it) : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GpM--fKeDw_tIDZj4m2jmbMavSyXeOu3QHzfTJwz-IM/edit#gid=0

Thanks for the quick response! So the Leeku PCB that I linked a photo of will 100% work? I don't see an indication that it is the Leeku TKL87L3, the site just says "PCB (TKL) (Leeku)"
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 24 October 2019, 04:03:00
Stab cutouts for the plate should support both directions except for backspace, I designed this mainly with Leeku PCBs in mind unless he made changes.

Also Alex has started replying to me again, he explained all the issues he/they faced and why the things that happened, happened. I'm not saying this to make excuses for anyone or lay blame though, just letting you guys know that I am currently updated and I'm just glad that things are moving forward. Seeing shipping invoices sent out is a good sign. There are still some issues that need to be dealt with and I'm trying to assist zFrontier and EVE to resolve them and they do seem to be intent in making things right.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Thu, 24 October 2019, 10:10:27
no invoice yet, but I assume they are still going out?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Thu, 24 October 2019, 11:35:15
no invoice yet, but I assume they are still going out?

Im sure you will get one soon, I got one early this week and paid, the shipping has started moving also.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 24 October 2019, 12:23:33
My kit has arrived safely! It was delivered earlier today.

Don't have time to build it straight away, but have looked at the parts. The Poseidon Blue keyboard looks great, although there's a very minor dent in the upper right corner of the bottom case. But you'd be incredibly nitpicky to be bothered by it. Pretty much insignificant.
Both the brass plate and the alu plate lacks the KIRA cutout branding, and just has a hole in it's place, but it's not visible when built anyway so it's not a concern to me. The Pearl Blue aluminium plate looks nothing like the Pearl Blue pictured. It's way closer to a silver:ish gray with slight blue tint, but it may just be my current indoor lighting. Will have another look at it tomorrow in natural lighting.
Also can't find any rubber feet bumpons in the package, but maybe zFrontier delivers without them? My Leaf80 from zF was also sent without. I've not been in that many keyboard GB's so I don't know if it's standard procedure to source them by oneself. In any case I have a few that probably fits.

All in all I am super happy with the kit. Thanks to Thesiscamper for pushing for updates and more information when there was no communication. That also goes for other GB participants that got us extra info whenever possible. Thanks everyone <3
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Thu, 24 October 2019, 15:45:30
No invoice here. Final stretch, I'm hoping zfrontier can actually deliver me a kit without any major issues because I have a feeling getting replacements/fixes will be an even bigger nightmare.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Thu, 24 October 2019, 20:58:16
My kit has arrived safely! It was delivered earlier today.

Don't have time to build it straight away, but have looked at the parts. The Poseidon Blue keyboard looks great, although there's a very minor dent in the upper right corner of the bottom case. But you'd be incredibly nitpicky to be bothered by it. Pretty much insignificant.
Both the brass plate and the alu plate lacks the KIRA cutout branding, and just has a hole in it's place, but it's not visible when built anyway so it's not a concern to me. The Pearl Blue aluminium plate looks nothing like the Pearl Blue pictured. It's way closer to a silver:ish gray with slight blue tint, but it may just be my current indoor lighting. Will have another look at it tomorrow in natural lighting.
Also can't find any rubber feet bumpons in the package, but maybe zFrontier delivers without them? My Leaf80 from zF was also sent without. I've not been in that many keyboard GB's so I don't know if it's standard procedure to source them by oneself. In any case I have a few that probably fits.

All in all I am super happy with the kit. Thanks to Thesiscamper for pushing for updates and more information when there was no communication. That also goes for other GB participants that got us extra info whenever possible. Thanks everyone <3

Got bumpons with mine - maybe yours fell out?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191025/bc078a2326eb4f19b5fa74b421448eef.jpg)


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 25 October 2019, 03:20:32
Received tracking number. Boy oh boy.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: jumpmineralwater on Fri, 25 October 2019, 03:33:43
Received a tracking number too. Got a Pearl Blue. Hope it turns out well.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Fri, 25 October 2019, 13:01:06
No. 101 arrived safe and sound in Berlin! :D

Everything looks fine! The Poseidon Blue looks really nice in person and quite different on my iPhone picture tbh, but will attach a couple of photos anyway.

Even if I’m not a big fan of branding on boards, I think the bag looks great. And these sides!!

My plates (alu/brass/poly) all have no Kira on it, but that’s fine for me. Side note: I got four bumpers (@Bubblegum).

Love the work you did with the board thesis!! Thanks!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191025/063384c8bd3fcdc4be863f40018d7130.plist)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191025/647207fcf41c0dfd5b84cff69297bd09.plist)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191025/8dadf94c5eb2a46135b532d02f1b1e08.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: jumpmineralwater on Sun, 27 October 2019, 03:05:54
Received my pearl blue. The anodisation of the case is nice.

The aluminium plate has the Kira cutout but looks like the case will cover it.

Received small 3M bumpons in the bag.

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Sun, 27 October 2019, 05:00:32
Thanks for the replies about the bumpons. Unfortunately there were none to be found in my package nor around the floor where I opened it, but it's alright.

Hope you guys enjoy building your boards!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 27 October 2019, 09:20:30
Thanks for the replies about the bumpons. Unfortunately there were none to be found in my package nor around the floor where I opened it, but it's alright.

Hope you guys enjoy building your boards!

You can always buy some from amazon. That’s what I did for my kit :p
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Sun, 27 October 2019, 17:05:31
Got some extra bumpons from a local store for my Leaf80. Pretty sure they will fit here also! Thanks though @forevermadrigal

Anyone else got a problem with their brass plate? My GMK Screw-in stab won't fit in the right side cutout for 6.25u space. The cutout is not big enough.
I have an extra aluminium plate in my order. There it is a tight fit, but it is doable. Just a bit annoying because I wanted to use the brass plate for this build. I guess it's possible to file the plate down a few mm though :)

(https://i.imgur.com/i7WKjTX.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/1PZ8lEJ.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Mon, 28 October 2019, 07:01:47
(https://imgur.com/IlbYWc7.jpg)

I can't believe by some stroke of dumb luck, I got number 42.  :D Used to be my jersey number.

I didn't have much time to check anything else out, but I did notice customs sorta haphazardly repackaged the box and I think that's what caused the mini USB connector to get smashed: (https://imgur.com/rT56bOZ.jpg).

Hopefully it's just cosmetic and nothing else is wrong with the PCB...

If I need to replace my PCB, anyone know if the TKL one from kbdfans (https://kbdfans.com/collections/pcb/products/kbdfans-kbd8x-pcb) would fit? I did some comparing of two images in photoshop and it looks like it might, but not sure.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Mon, 28 October 2019, 17:15:50
Well, mine arrived today...

Zfronteir neglected to send me my extra PCB. I already have an email out to them about this. Hopefully they don't give me any trouble about sending another.

What I'm more concerned about is that my brass weight absolutely will not fit inside the case cutout. The "K" in Kira is about 1mm larger than the cutout most of the way around. It won't even begin to fit, which they should have caught that in QC.

I don't want to send it back because I know it will end up needing to go back to Eve and I won't see it again 'til 2021. I guess I'm going to try my hand at Dremeling down the "K." Wish me luck.

Edit: Dremelling was a success.

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Title: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Mon, 28 October 2019, 19:13:16
Stupid question but are the plate screws too long? And if so, what size do I need? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191029/c42011f7a9e9c94db48873c4c8bccb32.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191029/d1e34bdff3ec14a0fea0f68ed0ec79ed.jpg)


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 28 October 2019, 19:43:03
Stupid question but are the plate screws too long? And if so, what size do I need?
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Should be M3*5 cap head screws, which might be the one in the middle.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: iEatPuppers on Mon, 28 October 2019, 19:49:52
Stupid question but are the plate screws too long? And if so, what size do I need?
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Should be M3*5 cap head screws, which might be the one in the middle.
Also, don't forcefully tighten them if they feel like they don't go any further. They strip pretty easily as I found out the hard way :'(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Mon, 28 October 2019, 19:53:14
Stupid question but are the plate screws too long? And if so, what size do I need?
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191029/c42011f7a9e9c94db48873c4c8bccb32.jpg)
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Should be M3*5 cap head screws, which might be the one in the middle.
Also, don't forcefully tighten them if they feel like they don't go any further. They strip pretty easily as I found out the hard way :'(
Same, why I asked because none of the screws I tried were the right length.

Thanks Thesis, I ordered some button top screws.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Tue, 29 October 2019, 05:08:56
Also can't find any rubber feet bumpons in the package, but maybe zFrontier delivers without them? My Leaf80 from zF was also sent without. I've not been in that many keyboard GB's so I don't know if it's standard procedure to source them by oneself. In any case I have a few that probably fits.

I didn't find any feet at first either, but they were somewhat tucked away inside the carrying case. I think I got two sets as well, if you're in the EU, I can ship you a set if you want.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 30 October 2019, 13:52:38
What would be the easiest way to get a new plate that fits the kira?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Wed, 30 October 2019, 14:06:48
What would be the easiest way to get a new plate that fits the kira?

I think the plate files are in this thread somewhere - could make your own if that's the case.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 30 October 2019, 15:00:23
What would be the easiest way to get a new plate that fits the kira?

I think the plate files are in this thread somewhere - could make your own if that's the case.
You are correct, found them. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 30 October 2019, 15:07:13
Also can't find any rubber feet bumpons in the package, but maybe zFrontier delivers without them? My Leaf80 from zF was also sent without. I've not been in that many keyboard GB's so I don't know if it's standard procedure to source them by oneself. In any case I have a few that probably fits.

I didn't find any feet at first either, but they were somewhat tucked away inside the carrying case. I think I got two sets as well, if you're in the EU, I can ship you a set if you want.

Thanks Brammm!

I haven't put the kit fully together yet, but as soon as I know if my alternative bumpons fit I'll let you know. In Norway & Sweden :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 30 October 2019, 18:20:35
The bumpon indentations at the bottom are measured for 3M SJ5302 bumpons, for anyone who is missing theirs.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Thu, 31 October 2019, 07:40:03
The bumpon indentations at the bottom are measured for 3M SJ5302 bumpons, for anyone who is missing theirs.
I did notice that the bumpons included (at least in my package) are smaller than the provided indentation.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 31 October 2019, 16:36:25
Samsung S7 photos with bad lighting, but just want to show it off to you guys. Poseidon Blue and Red Samurai kinda works if you ask me. Eventually want to put GMK Nautilus Nightmares on it I think.

(https://imgur.com/OCs5LMf)
(https://imgur.com/d3zMGPE)

Edit: Uhmm not sure why the photos wont show from imgur. Links down below.

https://imgur.com/OCs5LMf (https://imgur.com/OCs5LMf)
https://imgur.com/d3zMGPE (https://imgur.com/d3zMGPE)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Thu, 31 October 2019, 22:52:37
hmm, nothing here either, ill have to send them a message
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Fri, 01 November 2019, 01:51:41
hmm, nothing here either, ill have to send them a message
I sent them a message last week, still no sign of invoice or reply.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 01 November 2019, 11:27:36
Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 01 November 2019, 12:56:43
Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.

Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 01 November 2019, 13:52:01
Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.

Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.

You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Fri, 01 November 2019, 14:04:05
Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.

Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.

You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.
Sorry you got screwed over but that shouldn't negate someone else's negative experience.

Like going to a restaurant, telling other patrons that they shouldn't complain about cold food because they had food poisoning from the burger joint across the street.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 01 November 2019, 15:13:37
Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.
It's also a completely different thing when you're entering a GB with an established vendor vs someone who's entirely new.
Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.

You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.
Sorry you got screwed over but that shouldn't negate someone else's negative experience.

Like going to a restaurant, telling other patrons that they shouldn't complain about cold food because they had food poisoning from the burger joint across the street.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 01 November 2019, 16:03:06
Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.

Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.

You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.

I've been in a bunch of GB's before and my experiences were never this bad. I guess the way we are viewing this are just skewed by the differences in our past experiences and expectations with GB's as a result. I have come to expect delays but never delays with radio silence and 0 correspondence, much less a scam. By offering a refund, they would have essentially taken my money, strung me along until the very end where they then proceeded to **** up on production, even with all the delays and then given me back what I paid which actually translate to less than what I paid due to inflation and opportunity cost. If that's not insulting, I don't know what is. For that reason, I'd rather take the color change but that still sucks since it's not what I paid for. I don't think I can really "get over it" in that regards.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 01 November 2019, 17:04:15
Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.

Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.

You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.

I've been in a bunch of GB's before and my experiences were never this bad. I guess the way we are viewing this are just skewed by the differences in our past experiences and expectations with GB's as a result. I have come to expect delays but never delays with radio silence and 0 correspondence, much less a scam. By offering a refund, they would have essentially taken my money, strung me along until the very end where they then proceeded to **** up on production, even with all the delays and then given me back what I paid which actually translate to less than what I paid due to inflation and opportunity cost. If that's not insulting, I don't know what is. For that reason, I'd rather take the color change but that still sucks since it's not what I paid for. I don't think I can really "get over it" in that regards.

Who care's if you been in one group buy or 1000 there that risk that you will get screwed and lose the money. The chances of getting screwed are most likely 75/25. Count your self lucky that it didn't happen before now. Also with that sorta attitude might as well leave the hobby. I go into every group buy knowing there a good chance never going to see a product. That there will be radio silence and that there might be issues with the product. Doesn't make me happy but it is what it is.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Fri, 01 November 2019, 17:24:26
While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money.
[...]
The chances of getting screwed are most likely 75/25.

So you've gone from saying the majority of GBs go well, to saying that only half go well, to saying that only 1/4 go well... all in a matter of hours. What?

Just let the man be upset. He's well within his rights and you're just making yourself look like an ass.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 01 November 2019, 18:14:01
While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money.
[...]
The chances of getting screwed are most likely 75/25.

So you've gone from saying the majority of GBs go well, to saying that only half go well, to saying that only 1/4 go well... all in a matter of hours. What?

Just let the man be upset. He's well within his rights and you're just making yourself look like an ass.
Not that it matters cause people will think what they want.. didn't say half but yes majority of group buys go well. and about 25% do fail.. I say thats still majority. I never quoted half thought honestly half of them have issues the Person I quoted had. What ever found some people are just toxic and just want to complain with out weighting risk of joining a group buy yea its a risk reward situation.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 01 November 2019, 21:14:22
I understand the disappointment, and to feel insulted is not surprising. I am not sure how else zFrontier can make it up for you, I do know they've lost a lot of money and reputation on this buy and I'm not saying this for sympathy but to clarify that they can't really offer a lot more. I don't want to point fingers and lay blame, big or small zF, EVE and I made mistakes and I sincerely apologize.

I can't promise everyone will be satisfied, I think the best we can hope for is people to get back what they paid for, be it as a kit (even if a different color) or as a refund.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: proboy84 on Sat, 02 November 2019, 00:13:03
Damn, paid a shipping invoice since March and now refund???
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Sat, 02 November 2019, 02:10:48
Would be nice if Alex could let us know which of us aren't getting our kits. At this point I'd rather get a kit than just a refund.

edit: got shipping invoice, though no response from Alex
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Wed, 06 November 2019, 22:59:05
Got some extra bumpons from a local store for my Leaf80. Pretty sure they will fit here also! Thanks though @forevermadrigal

Anyone else got a problem with their brass plate? My GMK Screw-in stab won't fit in the right side cutout for 6.25u space. The cutout is not big enough.
I have an extra aluminium plate in my order. There it is a tight fit, but it is doable. Just a bit annoying because I wanted to use the brass plate for this build. I guess it's possible to file the plate down a few mm though :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i7WKjTX.jpg)
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Just got a chance to check mine and my brass plate is the same way, its a hair too small. I also picked up an alum and a polycarb plate and I can say that the issue is also present in the polycarb plate but not the aluminum one. I can actually jam the stab housing in there but it bends a little. I will probably file it down a little rather then deal with ZF ever again.

Other issues were wrong length hardware and wrong type of hardware. The screws for the plate are sink hardware and should be truss head and are too long. The weight hardware was too short to secure my weight. The only ones i didnt have to replace are the actual case screws that are fixed thru the bottom. Also shipped with the wrong size bumpon.

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 07 November 2019, 17:15:54
Got some extra bumpons from a local store for my Leaf80. Pretty sure they will fit here also! Thanks though @forevermadrigal

Anyone else got a problem with their brass plate? My GMK Screw-in stab won't fit in the right side cutout for 6.25u space. The cutout is not big enough.
I have an extra aluminium plate in my order. There it is a tight fit, but it is doable. Just a bit annoying because I wanted to use the brass plate for this build. I guess it's possible to file the plate down a few mm though :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i7WKjTX.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1PZ8lEJ.jpg)



Just got a chance to check mine and my brass plate is the same way, its a hair too small. I also picked up an alum and a polycarb plate and I can say that the issue is also present in the polycarb plate but not the aluminum one. I can actually jam the stab housing in there but it bends a little. I will probably file it down a little rather then deal with ZF ever again.

Other issues were wrong length hardware and wrong type of hardware. The screws for the plate are sink hardware and should be truss head and are too long. The weight hardware was too short to secure my weight. The only ones i didnt have to replace are the actual case screws that are fixed thru the bottom. Also shipped with the wrong size bumpon.

I've seen it mentioned that newer stab tooling made them a bit thicker, so the newer stabs hardly fit through the cutouts. It was something I didn't expect, I've since changed the cutouts for later plates. As for the scews, I'm not sure why this has happened, EVE has shipped KIRA80s before with correct screws.

For those who need them, screws are all M3.


Bumpons are 3M SJ5302 or other 8mm diameter ones.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: shansoft on Thu, 07 November 2019, 18:03:21
Got some extra bumpons from a local store for my Leaf80. Pretty sure they will fit here also! Thanks though @forevermadrigal

Anyone else got a problem with their brass plate? My GMK Screw-in stab won't fit in the right side cutout for 6.25u space. The cutout is not big enough.
I have an extra aluminium plate in my order. There it is a tight fit, but it is doable. Just a bit annoying because I wanted to use the brass plate for this build. I guess it's possible to file the plate down a few mm though :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i7WKjTX.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1PZ8lEJ.jpg)



Just got a chance to check mine and my brass plate is the same way, its a hair too small. I also picked up an alum and a polycarb plate and I can say that the issue is also present in the polycarb plate but not the aluminum one. I can actually jam the stab housing in there but it bends a little. I will probably file it down a little rather then deal with ZF ever again.

Other issues were wrong length hardware and wrong type of hardware. The screws for the plate are sink hardware and should be truss head and are too long. The weight hardware was too short to secure my weight. The only ones i didnt have to replace are the actual case screws that are fixed thru the bottom. Also shipped with the wrong size bumpon.

I've seen it mentioned that newer stab tooling made them a bit thicker, so the newer stabs hardly fit through the cutouts. It was something I didn't expect, I've since changed the cutouts for later plates. As for the scews, I'm not sure why this has happened, EVE has shipped KIRA80s before with correct screws.

For those who need them, screws are all M3.

  • 8 pcs. M3*8 or M3*10 flathead/countersunk for bottom to top
  • 8 pcs. M3*5 sockethead or cap head for plate
  • 4 pcs. M3*5 flathead/countersunk for weight

Bumpons are 3M SJ5302 or other 8mm diameter ones.

Is there an updated plate file for this?  :D
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: redbanshee on Fri, 08 November 2019, 10:43:13
I've seen it mentioned that newer stab tooling made them a bit thicker, so the newer stabs hardly fit through the cutouts. It was something I didn't expect, I've since changed the cutouts for later plates. As for the scews, I'm not sure why this has happened, EVE has shipped KIRA80s before with correct screws.

For those who need them, screws are all M3.

  • 8 pcs. M3*8 or M3*10 flathead/countersunk for bottom to top
  • 8 pcs. M3*5 sockethead or cap head for plate
  • 4 pcs. M3*5 flathead/countersunk for weight


thesiscamper, i just wanted to say that the board itself is really nice and the anno from eve is nice and even. The way that ZF handled the GB was pretty bad but the end product is very nice. I wish it would have gone smoother. Overall a great board.

One little thing is that im assuming that you are basing the hardware lengths on your initial design, a couple things that I can tell you from having 2 kits in my hands is that the weight hardware length will probably need to be tested on a case to case basis because in one of the kits that I received, the weight hardware fit but on the other one it didnt and required longer hardware. That means that the weights are not all the same. Not a huge issue but still present.

Also if you are calling for sink hardware for the case screws then that was wrong from eve also, as all the 8mm hardware that was shipped to me is all sockethead hardware. I will swap those out also.

Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Brammm87 on Fri, 08 November 2019, 13:14:09
Anyone know why Bootmapper client wouldn't recognize the board on OS X but does on Windows?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Sat, 09 November 2019, 19:48:25
I've seen it mentioned that newer stab tooling made them a bit thicker, so the newer stabs hardly fit through the cutouts. It was something I didn't expect, I've since changed the cutouts for later plates. As for the scews, I'm not sure why this has happened, EVE has shipped KIRA80s before with correct screws.

For those who need them, screws are all M3.

  • 8 pcs. M3*8 or M3*10 flathead/countersunk for bottom to top
  • 8 pcs. M3*5 sockethead or cap head for plate
  • 4 pcs. M3*5 flathead/countersunk for weight


thesiscamper, i just wanted to say that the board itself is really nice and the anno from eve is nice and even. The way that ZF handled the GB was pretty bad but the end product is very nice. I wish it would have gone smoother. Overall a great board.

One little thing is that im assuming that you are basing the hardware lengths on your initial design, a couple things that I can tell you from having 2 kits in my hands is that the weight hardware length will probably need to be tested on a case to case basis because in one of the kits that I received, the weight hardware fit but on the other one it didnt and required longer hardware. That means that the weights are not all the same. Not a huge issue but still present.

Also if you are calling for sink hardware for the case screws then that was wrong from eve also, as all the 8mm hardware that was shipped to me is all sockethead hardware. I will swap those out also.

Thanks, I appreciate the suggestion. To be clear, I opened the CAD files to make sure I gave the correct measurements, and I always add at least 1mm to the depth just to be safe. EVE does change some things, and I won't be surprised if the kits have different depths for the holes. Socketheads with shallow heads should work, but the kits are designed for flathead screws.

As for OSX bootmapper, I can't be of any help since I only have Windows machines.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Jkush463 on Mon, 11 November 2019, 16:37:37
Got my priority board today! looks wonderful in blue, i also got an acrylic plate that i dont remember ordering but its so nice. Glad to have this finally,
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 15 November 2019, 11:32:55
Still haven't gotten an email or an invoice for shipping. Is something up? I thought all these were supposed to be shipping out.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Fri, 15 November 2019, 12:27:50
Got shipping invoice on the 4th, though I did ask them to check the contents before shipping out so I haven't received tracking yet.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 18 November 2019, 10:43:50
Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 18 November 2019, 17:32:14
Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.

I asked for an update last night and I'm waiting for a reply, I will give you an update when I know more.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: shansoft on Fri, 22 November 2019, 05:48:49
Anyone have default firmware / bootmapper ? Somehow my Pause is now Esc, and Esc is 1....

The entire mapping is off, and Bootmapper doesn't even recognize it properly, had to use HIDBOOT to flash and still no luck with proper mapping.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: kokugatsu on Tue, 26 November 2019, 06:56:58
Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.

I asked for an update last night and I'm waiting for a reply, I will give you an update when I know more.

Thanks, appreciate your effort. It's been 3 weeks since I paid my shipping invoice and there's still no sign of the kit :v
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 26 November 2019, 21:09:39
Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.

I asked for an update last night and I'm waiting for a reply, I will give you an update when I know more.

Thanks, appreciate your effort. It's been 3 weeks since I paid my shipping invoice and there's still no sign of the kit :v

Hi, I just got an update from Alex. He said he will check and that some invoices are still not paid, they may have been filtered so if anyone is still waiting for an invoice please check your spam folders. He also said if anyone paid the shipping invoice using a different email he might have missed it.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: rioc on Wed, 27 November 2019, 01:26:04
Yea, Alex contacted me regarding shipping a few weeks ago. Had to postpone a bit due to being on holidays but I got a prompt answer from him.
Shipping is paid now though :)

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 27 November 2019, 07:27:28
Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.

I asked for an update last night and I'm waiting for a reply, I will give you an update when I know more.

Thanks, appreciate your effort. It's been 3 weeks since I paid my shipping invoice and there's still no sign of the kit :v

Yea, Alex contacted me regarding shipping a few weeks ago. Had to postpone a bit due to being on holidays but I got a prompt answer from him.
Shipping is paid now though :)

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If you're fine with sharing can you PM me your order details so I can forward it to Alex?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 03 December 2019, 05:30:22
There are still 5 unpaid shipping invoices according to Alex. He will just wait for these buyers to pay them.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: rioc on Tue, 03 December 2019, 05:41:20
Got mine yesterday.
Looking forward to building it

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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Abstand on Mon, 30 December 2019, 19:17:57
So, an ISO plate file was posted earlier in the thread. Is there an ANSI plate file that can be shared as well? Unless the ISO plate supports ANSI? I am not exactly sure.

I need to order another plate for this but am unsure if the ISO plate file will support an ANSI layout.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: shansoft on Tue, 31 December 2019, 02:54:10
So, an ISO plate file was posted earlier in the thread. Is there an ANSI plate file that can be shared as well? Unless the ISO plate supports ANSI? I am not exactly sure.

I need to order another plate for this but am unsure if the ISO plate file will support an ANSI layout.

It's for both.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Abstand on Tue, 31 December 2019, 05:44:13
So, an ISO plate file was posted earlier in the thread. Is there an ANSI plate file that can be shared as well? Unless the ISO plate supports ANSI? I am not exactly sure.

I need to order another plate for this but am unsure if the ISO plate file will support an ANSI layout.

It's for both.

Not all heroes wear capes, thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Sun, 26 January 2020, 09:45:39
Hope everyone got their boards by now. Very happy with mine.

Thesiscamper, any chance you'll be running the numpads again?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 26 January 2020, 10:30:21
I want r2 :-[
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 08 March 2020, 13:25:44
If anyone here has the plate file, could you please send it to me or post it here?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 08 March 2020, 14:26:08
If anyone here has the plate file, could you please send it to me or post it here?

if it's orion/janev1/27 plate i have it
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Sun, 08 March 2020, 15:10:50
It's in the thread somewhere, unless beaming deleted it.


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Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 08 March 2020, 17:07:40
It's in the thread somewhere, unless beaming deleted it.


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I've been skimming through the pages and could not find it, hopefully it's not deleted.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: proboy84 on Sun, 08 March 2020, 23:02:26
It's in the thread somewhere, unless beaming deleted it.


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I've been skimming through the pages and could not find it, hopefully it's not deleted.

I think I got it on my pc.

Let me check, will let you know..
Title: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: sroop on Sun, 08 March 2020, 23:04:19
It's in the thread somewhere, unless beaming deleted it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I've been skimming through the pages and could not find it, hopefully it's not deleted.

Here ya go, just have to click the link to the original post though

I got my board last week and found some scratches on the plate.
zF quality control seems not good.

thesiscamper: do you have plan to share plate data?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/WzLW486.jpg)


I don't think EVE changed anything (ie. screw holes), I've attached the file.

edit: to the guy who downloaded the earlier file this new attachment might work better.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Mon, 09 March 2020, 00:16:07
Thanks sroop, I'll link to it in my OP as well.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Etherealsound on Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:33:04
Thank you so much! Just one last question, anyone know around what thickness the brass plates were?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:57:39
Thank you so much! Just one last question, anyone know around what thickness the brass plates were?

Standard 1.5
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: elmo on Mon, 09 March 2020, 14:49:42
Hey everyone  :D

For those that don't like Bootmapper or just prefer QMK in general:

I did the work and ported the original Kira 80 PCB to QMK.
https://config.qmk.fm/#/kira80/LAYOUT_tkl_ansi

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/kira80

board is fully supported now and everything works (including backlight). Can be flashed using the bootloadHID tools (included in qmk).
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: SBN on Wed, 11 March 2020, 07:42:35
Hey everyone  :D

For those that don't like Bootmapper or just prefer QMK in general:

I did the work and ported the original Kira 80 PCB to QMK.
https://config.qmk.fm/#/kira80/LAYOUT_tkl_ansi

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/kira80

board is fully supported now and everything works (including backlight). Can be flashed using the bootloadHID tools (included in qmk).

Awesome!! Thanks!!
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: schlep on Tue, 17 March 2020, 23:50:38
anyone has a spare pcb to sell by any chance?

i may have damaged the lctrl button in my desoldering process. tried remapping and flashing again but the lctrl still doesnt work. :(
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: shansoft on Wed, 18 March 2020, 02:24:44
anyone has a spare pcb to sell by any chance?

i may have damaged the lctrl button in my desoldering process. tried remapping and flashing again but the lctrl still doesnt work. :(

You can get the h87a or SUO PCB for it.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 18 March 2020, 02:38:03
Hey everyone  :D

For those that don't like Bootmapper or just prefer QMK in general:

I did the work and ported the original Kira 80 PCB to QMK.
https://config.qmk.fm/#/kira80/LAYOUT_tkl_ansi

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/kira80

board is fully supported now and everything works (including backlight). Can be flashed using the bootloadHID tools (included in qmk).

I've linked to your message in the OP, thanks for doing this :)
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: schlep on Fri, 20 March 2020, 04:18:20
anyone has a spare pcb to sell by any chance?

i may have damaged the lctrl button in my desoldering process. tried remapping and flashing again but the lctrl still doesnt work. :(

You can get the h87a or SUO PCB for it.

Thanks for the advice on alternative PCB. Any alternative plate?
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 20 March 2020, 12:42:11
Find one the aftermarket or get the plate file and get one made yourself.
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Little4Real on Fri, 20 March 2020, 13:30:35
At this rate, just make them SA profile
Title: Re: [GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 23 September 2020, 05:13:10
Has anyone tried having a PC plate cut from the plate file? Curious of the results. Never tried an 'after-GB' PC plate for a top mount TKL before.