Entry deadline date is wrong but otherwise looks good! Price is very reasonable imo and I’m hoping to get in on this.
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Also the Google forms is not live yet.
a few questions as i made it through the form: 1) could only select color options/build parts for the tkl even though i'd potentially like both 2) any chance to sub the aluminum plate for either the pc or brass plate? 3) is it possible to change color choices shortly after the winners announced? a lot more color options presented than expected (and it'd be cool to see it listed in the gb op) 4) will there be an option to select wkl at some point?
thanks :)
a few questions as i made it through the form: 1) could only select color options/build parts for the tkl even though i'd potentially like both 2) any chance to sub the aluminum plate for either the pc or brass plate? 3) is it possible to change color choices shortly after the winners announced? a lot more color options presented than expected (and it'd be cool to see it listed in the gb op) 4) will there be an option to select wkl at some point?
thanks :)
1) You should be able to choose the option for both numpad and TKL at the start, lemme know if it doesn't work.
2) nope
3) yes, i'll confirm your orders again
4) yes, after we determine the winners you'll get to select WKL/WK
I've split both numpad and TKL into separate forms, since Google form is sending options all over the place and I'm not sure why.
KIRA80: https://goo.gl/forms/QgnDmOb5UC3v2KLQ2
KIRA S: https://goo.gl/forms/jAp4X6mqymfMZ4sr1
I've split both numpad and TKL into separate forms, since Google form is sending options all over the place and I'm not sure why.
KIRA80: https://goo.gl/forms/QgnDmOb5UC3v2KLQ2
KIRA S: https://goo.gl/forms/jAp4X6mqymfMZ4sr1
Do we need to resubmit if we used the old form?
Is the Kira80 in the picture silver or space grey? looks like grey to me . First raffle, hope to get in.
Is the Kira80 in the picture silver or space grey? looks like grey to me . First raffle, hope to get in.
Yeah it's the grey.
Any images of how the top and bottom pieces fit together for each the 80 and S? I’m curious what they would look like with different top and bottom colors; although I think we determined in a prior post that this was not an aesthetically pleasing option for this board. Thanks!
If I were to get it I wouldn't want to get both an alu plate and a brass plate? No Chance for just a brass plate?
Also Found this pic on ThesisCampers Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/p/BjXco0FDVUZsmRkUvj7QwQ_OD5lkxR-ii2gSBw0/?taken-by=thesiscamper
Question regarding the switch direction in the pcb.
Which direction will the LED slot in the switch housing be facing; north or south?
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Question regarding the switch direction in the pcb.
Which direction will the LED slot in the switch housing be facing; north or south?
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South
3rd July is deadline for submission of names. When do we know who got the spot?
Will there be a possibility of having a brass/poly plate in lieu of alu?
Will there be a possibility of having a brass/poly plate in lieu of alu?
no
he said above
Will there be a possibility of having a brass/poly plate in lieu of alu?
no
he said above
mb, dunno how I missed that. Also, resubmitted because I realized I might have put in the wrong username.
I don't suppose there will be color samples other than the space grey?
Can we get some more info on the colours please? Samples, examples or pantones?
听说这站已经卖给了国内的人,那以后就会用国语回复了。
各位同志门, 我就先把表格都关了。应该会在二十四小时后公布成绩。谢谢大家踊跃参与,那就敬请期待成绩揭晓吧 :)
听说这站已经卖给了国内的人,那以后就会用国语回复了。
各位同志门, 我就先把表格都关了。应该会在二十四小时后公布成绩。谢谢大家踊跃参与,那就敬请期待成绩揭晓吧 :)
听说这站已经卖给了国内的人,那以后就会用国语回复了。
各位同志门, 我就先把表格都关了。应该会在二十四小时后公布成绩。谢谢大家踊跃参与,那就敬请期待成绩揭晓吧 :)
这给了我很多乐趣。
表格已结束。 大家好运
表格已结束。 大家好运
大家好运!
Is the raffle done?Closed, winners not announced yet.
So close, yet so far
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Finally some luck! ;D
I never get picked :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ ....
I never get picked :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ ....
huh? You're the first one on the winner list. :confused:
:eek:Did you get picked? :eek:
Are we able to make changes to the plate via the email as well?
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY im on of the 4 people who can purchase the numpad <3
If i knew that the price was in SGD and not in USD i would have surely bought the keyboard as well.
FeelsBadMan
Are we able to make changes to the plate via the email as well?
Yes that's possible as well.YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY im on of the 4 people who can purchase the numpad <3
If i knew that the price was in SGD and not in USD i would have surely bought the keyboard as well.
FeelsBadMan
It's in USD, it's just that we can only operate with SGD due to Shopify's rules so the final invoice will be in SGD, which has been updated :P
Are we able to make changes to the plate via the email as well?
Yes that's possible as well.YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY im on of the 4 people who can purchase the numpad <3
If i knew that the price was in SGD and not in USD i would have surely bought the keyboard as well.
FeelsBadMan
It's in USD, it's just that we can only operate with SGD due to Shopify's rules so the final invoice will be in SGD, which has been updated :P
I dont follow this at all - will the invoice not be through paypal?
out of curiosity, will the boards be numbered?
Invoices are on their way.
Order check:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aJPiKcVXqn3kYnqi3HZB2s5vghpjEPG00ouqo0y4VCQ/edit?usp=sharing
Please reply to the email you'll receive if you would like Winkey or Winkeyless, thanks.
Also as an addendum, we're sending out invoices in batches. If you've not received yours don't panic, we will send out the rest by the weekend and can probably extend the payment deadline if needed.
out of curiosity, will the boards be numbered?
This would be awesome if they were. Just sayin'. ;)
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY im on of the 4 people who can purchase the numpad <3
If i knew that the price was in SGD and not in USD i would have surely bought the keyboard as well.
FeelsBadMan
Can you post some details about the PCB, like programmability or other features ? Can I use another PCB in this case ?(like if there is a list of compatible PCBs somewhere ?) I want to know If I should get another, in case there is any issues in the future.
Also is the PCB switch ready (resistors and smd components if any soldered ) ?
2. Don't think you can use other pcbs with the case sorry.
2. Don't think you can use other pcbs with the case sorry.
you should be able to use most a.87 compatible PCBs with this case, that leaves you some good replacement options for this case.
Rumor is that the PCB is the same PCB that was created by Yuktsi for the TGR Jane, if this rumor is correct (topside, right USB) then it is indeed a.87 form factor.
But we are still in the dark about what exactly is going on with the PCB. beamingrobot should be able to provide a smidge more detail about the PCB soon i would assume....
I did ask yuktsi to flip the spacebar stabs orientation for the group buy.
PCB is being designed by yuktsi, although the board itself was designed based on Leeku's TKL PCB design file, so a TX87-L3(?) fits. I did ask yuktsi to flip the spacebar stabs orientation for the group buy.You mean this ?
PCB is being designed by yuktsi, although the board itself was designed based on Leeku's TKL PCB design file, so a TX87-L3(?) fits. I did ask yuktsi to flip the spacebar stabs orientation for the group buy.You mean this ?
https://www.txkeyboards.com/en/products/pcb-various-tkl-us-detail
I'm trying to see if I will need to order a second pcb or not. If this fits, then it looks like this will be cheaper too...
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So I can use the PCB with my other TKL.I did ask yuktsi to flip the spacebar stabs orientation for the group buy.
Why the flip? IMO, it's more convenient to service SPC stabs (pop the wire out to straighten it, lube it, etc.) the way it is.
So I can use the PCB with my other TKL.I did ask yuktsi to flip the spacebar stabs orientation for the group buy.
Why the flip? IMO, it's more convenient to service SPC stabs (pop the wire out to straighten it, lube it, etc.) the way it is.
One can order from TX if they wanted that orientation, I don't like the extra space it takes up. I understand what you're saying, but this is what I decided.So I can use the PCB with my other TKL.I did ask yuktsi to flip the spacebar stabs orientation for the group buy.
Why the flip? IMO, it's more convenient to service SPC stabs (pop the wire out to straighten it, lube it, etc.) the way it is.
I personally don't care that much, but I think you are better off sourcing PCB separately for your other TKL.
Flipping the SPC stab orientation makes this keyboard worse off in terms of PCB compatibility and stab serviceability.
There really is no reason to flip the orientation unless you have a board with super compact bezel.
I have a couple of Duck boards with bent SPC wires that drives me crazy but I just live with them :( because I don't want to de-solder bunch of switches.
Just my 2 cents.
One can order from TX if they wanted that orientation
Yes.One can order from TX if they wanted that orientation
Does that mean a TX87-L3 from TX will be compatible with the case ?
Yes.One can order from TX if they wanted that orientation
Does that mean a TX87-L3 from TX will be compatible with the case ?
Is email & invoicing still in progress? Been checking my mailbox sporadically and none so far.
Is email & invoicing still in progress? Been checking my mailbox sporadically and none so far.I have also not received anything so i'm hoping sometime soon so I can spend this money
Yes.One can order from TX if they wanted that orientation
Does that mean a TX87-L3 from TX will be compatible with the case ?
So then if the TX87 (TKL87 L3) fits, then a large amount of other PCB's should fit in it. for those interested see the master TKL compatibility list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GpM--fKeDw_tIDZj4m2jmbMavSyXeOu3QHzfTJwz-IM the kira 80 is listed already on it.
As for north/south stab wire orientation, OracleKev presents some valid points. Besides ease of serviceability, one of the main factors about south stab wires is that its way less noisy/rattly. But if thesiscamper is saying that the plate will support both north and south spc stab wires (by confirming that tx87 fits) then we still have options to get that south stab wire with some other pcb. Understandable decision if hes planning compatibility with another smaller bezzel case tho (any details on that project, thesiscamper? ;D )
coffeeshopcoder, there are a few new a.87 PCB's that will be available by the time this board hits our doorsteps, it shouldnt be hard at all to get a new pcb for it then.
Yes.One can order from TX if they wanted that orientation
Does that mean a TX87-L3 from TX will be compatible with the case ?
So then if the TX87 (TKL87 L3) fits, then a large amount of other PCB's should fit in it. for those interested see the master TKL compatibility list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GpM--fKeDw_tIDZj4m2jmbMavSyXeOu3QHzfTJwz-IM the kira 80 is listed already on it.
As for north/south stab wire orientation, OracleKev presents some valid points. Besides ease of serviceability, one of the main factors about south stab wires is that its way less noisy/rattly. But if thesiscamper is saying that the plate will support both north and south spc stab wires (by confirming that tx87 fits) then we still have options to get that south stab wire with some other pcb. Understandable decision if hes planning compatibility with another smaller bezzel case tho (any details on that project, thesiscamper? ;D )
coffeeshopcoder, there are a few new a.87 PCB's that will be available by the time this board hits our doorsteps, it shouldnt be hard at all to get a new pcb for it then.
Yeah there's already an existing PCB if you want south stab wires, that's regularly stocked. I want the flexibility to make slimmer cases. By the way I'm usually replying on my phone so my responses are curt and to the point but like I said, I understand the convenience of being able to pull the wires to fix something that needs fixing, but we already have a readily available PCB for that. It ships by Korean EMS too (for international) so it's cheap and really fast, comparable to couriers. I'm not a huge fan of JigOn though, got a few 1800 PCBs messed up after some time for no apparent reason when every other PCB worked fine.
No rush
Don't think they've started yet
Damn really, checking now....No rush
Don't think they've started yet
they have started so be sure to check your spam folder, etc.
i believe beaming said at some point that invoices would be due by the 10th to ensure faster production.
Anyone got an invoice just yet?Beamings working on it, will post once the invoices start going out.
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Anyone got an invoice just yet?Beamings working on it, will post once the invoices start going out.
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Anyone got an invoice just yet?Beamings working on it, will post once the invoices start going out.
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I received and paid mine thursday last week. Should I be worried? :-X
Anyone got an invoice just yet?Beamings working on it, will post once the invoices start going out.
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I received and paid mine thursday last week. Should I be worried? :-X
Worried about?
Anyone got an invoice just yet?Beamings working on it, will post once the invoices start going out.
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I received and paid mine thursday last week. Should I be worried? :-X
Worried about?
I guess worried is bit of a stretch. Just found it curious that no one else seems to have gotten theirs. The messaging here is that they are going to go out, but I already got it.
Anyone got an invoice just yet?Beamings working on it, will post once the invoices start going out.
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I received and paid mine thursday last week. Should I be worried? :-X
Worried about?
I guess worried is bit of a stretch. Just found it curious that no one else seems to have gotten theirs. The messaging here is that they are going to go out, but I already got it.
I just think beaming is busy, I’m sure invoices will be wrapped up soon
If you have the money to do FCFS, you should always do that option. You said in your post that it limits the number you can do to 25, but that's no different than the other GB's you've run. It takes the high risk away from everyone but yourself. But if you're running a business, you should be willing and able to take risks as it is.
Doing FCFS is a win for all of your customers. If everything goes well, you do a R2 and sell another 25 then.
The only issue with this (outside of capital required) would be the customization options.
He would either have to limit customization or potentially keep unsold inventory if stuff like extra pcbs go unsold.
I am also one of those 5 invoiced. and already paid.
I hope you can solve out with shopify
If you have the money to do FCFS, you should always do that option. You said in your post that it limits the number you can do to 25, but that's no different than the other GB's you've run. It takes the high risk away from everyone but yourself. But if you're running a business, you should be willing and able to take risks as it is.
Doing FCFS is a win for all of your customers. If everything goes well, you do a R2 and sell another 25 then.
Are you giving yourself an ultimatum on when you going to decide to cancel the GB altogether?We're waiting till the weekend. I've been discussing with thesis how we should best approach it, and we both agree that waiting a bit more will be more beneficial for everyone.
Hope you can find a way to accept payment if the Shopify thing does not come through... payment ready !!!
Speaking for myself atleast, if this goes down the path of beaming having to buy a few units and sell FCFS to the winners, I have no problem pre-paying directly to beaming's personal paypal to get a unit - I dont really care for the buyer protection from paypal/shopify. Although I'm new to the community, looking at beaming's past work - I have no reluctance trusting him.
Speaking for myself atleast, if this goes down the path of beaming having to buy a few units and sell FCFS to the winners, I have no problem pre-paying directly to beaming's personal paypal to get a unit - I dont really care for the buyer protection from paypal/shopify. Although I'm new to the community, looking at beaming's past work - I have no reluctance trusting him.
likewise
Speaking for myself atleast, if this goes down the path of beaming having to buy a few units and sell FCFS to the winners, I have no problem pre-paying directly to beaming's personal paypal to get a unit - I dont really care for the buyer protection from paypal/shopify. Although I'm new to the community, looking at beaming's past work - I have no reluctance trusting him.
likewise
+1
Speaking for myself atleast, if this goes down the path of beaming having to buy a few units and sell FCFS to the winners, I have no problem pre-paying directly to beaming's personal paypal to get a unit - I dont really care for the buyer protection from paypal/shopify. Although I'm new to the community, looking at beaming's past work - I have no reluctance trusting him.
likewise
+1
+2 😂
Uh, let's not be hasty about disregarding buyer protection. We will definitely try out best to find a solution that benefits the buyers. While the hype might be great now and we're all ok with deferring buyer protection, 4 months down the road it'll be highly possible some of us might not feel the same way again.
On another note, PayPal has been notified about the possible running of this GB using my business account. They will reply in 48 hours if it's acceptable and we will see how it goes. Thanks again for all your patience.
Uh, let's not be hasty about disregarding buyer protection. We will definitely try out best to find a solution that benefits the buyers. While the hype might be great now and we're all ok with deferring buyer protection, 4 months down the road it'll be highly possible some of us might not feel the same way again.
On another note, PayPal has been notified about the possible running of this GB using my business account. They will reply in 48 hours if it's acceptable and we will see how it goes. Thanks again for all your patience.
Uh, let's not be hasty about disregarding buyer protection. We will definitely try out best to find a solution that benefits the buyers. While the hype might be great now and we're all ok with deferring buyer protection, 4 months down the road it'll be highly possible some of us might not feel the same way again.
On another note, PayPal has been notified about the possible running of this GB using my business account. They will reply in 48 hours if it's acceptable and we will see how it goes. Thanks again for all your patience.
Thanks for the update! Crossing my fingers...paypal please approve this!
Uh, let's not be hasty about disregarding buyer protection. We will definitely try out best to find a solution that benefits the buyers. While the hype might be great now and we're all ok with deferring buyer protection, 4 months down the road it'll be highly possible some of us might not feel the same way again.
On another note, PayPal has been notified about the possible running of this GB using my business account. They will reply in 48 hours if it's acceptable and we will see how it goes. Thanks again for all your patience.
Uh, let's not be hasty about disregarding buyer protection. We will definitely try out best to find a solution that benefits the buyers. While the hype might be great now and we're all ok with deferring buyer protection, 4 months down the road it'll be highly possible some of us might not feel the same way again.
On another note, PayPal has been notified about the possible running of this GB using my business account. They will reply in 48 hours if it's acceptable and we will see how it goes. Thanks again for all your patience.
Holy ****, I forgot about this and am totally in! I might need to make a slight color change,how should I go about doing it? Via the Google doc?
Holy ****, I forgot about this and am totally in! I might need to make a slight color change,how should I go about doing it? Via the Google doc?
The raffle is over, and the winners were picked. And this may not happen, as beaming's Shopify account got put on hold. Read the last couple of pages of the thread...I see that now. I'm just glad that I didn't miss an invoice! Here's hoping that it all gets resolved and I get a Grail board!
Right now those who got in are holding thier breath and hoping that this can be resolved and the gb will actually happen ....Holy ****, I forgot about this and am totally in! I might need to make a slight color change,how should I go about doing it? Via the Google doc?
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I see that now. I'm just glad that I didn't miss an invoice! Here's hoping that it all gets resolved and I get a Grail board!
Some good news, Shopify has unlocked our payment account, apparently it was put on hold as we had a product that was linked to an anime? anime companies smh
invoicing to restart in about 24 hours, I'm working through your changes and will have it reflected on the Google sheet before I send out the invoices, appreciate your patience so far, we are all back on track :)
Some good news, Shopify has unlocked our payment account, apparently it was put on hold as we had a product that was linked to an anime? anime companies smhWhoo hooo !!!! This is awesome news !
invoicing to restart in about 24 hours, I'm working through your changes and will have it reflected on the Google sheet before I send out the invoices, appreciate your patience so far, we are all back on track :)
Some good news, Shopify has unlocked our payment account, apparently it was put on hold as we had a product that was linked to an anime? anime companies smh
invoicing to restart in about 24 hours, I'm working through your changes and will have it reflected on the Google sheet before I send out the invoices, appreciate your patience so far, we are all back on track :)
Some good news, Shopify has unlocked our payment account, apparently it was put on hold as we had a product that was linked to an anime? anime companies smh
invoicing to restart in about 24 hours, I'm working through your changes and will have it reflected on the Google sheet before I send out the invoices, appreciate your patience so far, we are all back on track :)
Glad to hear this!
I'm almost crying in my work after hearing that it's happening lol :p
WKL:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4dl1Ox5.png)
:-X :-\WKL:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4dl1Ox5.png)
I heard the owner of that Kira80 is a very handsome fella.
We're taking a break today from issuing any further invoices (been QC-ing other buys as well). I will add people from the waiting list into the main buy according to the order listed. We're looking at 3 slots open for now.
Also, please specify if you'd like to have WK/WKL in reply to the email sent out, thanks!
We're taking a break today from issuing any further invoices (been QC-ing other buys as well). I will add people from the waiting list into the main buy according to the order listed. We're looking at 3 slots open for now.
Also, please specify if you'd like to have WK/WKL in reply to the email sent out, thanks!
We're taking a break today from issuing any further invoices (been QC-ing other buys as well). I will add people from the waiting list into the main buy according to the order listed. We're looking at 3 slots open for now.
Also, please specify if you'd like to have WK/WKL in reply to the email sent out, thanks!
This post made my day! Number 2 on waitlist!
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YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY im on of the 4 people who can purchase the numpad <3
If i knew that the price was in SGD and not in USD i would have surely bought the keyboard as well.
FeelsBadMan
We're still settling invoices, we've had some changes and cancellations as well so we seek everyone's understanding that this is progressing slowly. Please decide if you would like to join or drop out within the next 48 hours.Definitely in. Should I be worried that my payment status is not reflected on the Google sheets ? I guess not, I'm assuming most people have paid by now, and the Google sheet is just not updated yet...
We're still settling invoices, we've had some changes and cancellations as well so we seek everyone's understanding that this is progressing slowly. Please decide if you would like to join or drop out within the next 48 hours.Definitely in. Should I be worried that my payment status is not reflected on the Google sheets ? I guess not, I'm assuming most people have paid by now, and the Google sheet is just not updated yet...
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Beaming, how can we make adjustments to our order if we are on the waitlist? Will we be added to the Google doc once confirmed?
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Alright some of you people who paid and are asking for refunds, please don't be ****s about it. Note that Shopify takes a cut and we can not refund the portion even if I wanted to.
I've pushed some people up the list, check your emails. We have 8 people dropping out/cancelling or refunding/whatever the reason is. I'm adding 5 more from the list and no more.
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Alright some of you people who paid and are asking for refunds, please don't be ****s about it. Note that Shopify takes a cut and we can not refund the portion even if I wanted to.
I've pushed some people up the list, check your emails. We have 8 people dropping out/cancelling or refunding/whatever the reason is. I'm adding 5 more from the list and no more.
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Alright some of you people who paid and are asking for refunds, please don't be ****s about it. Note that Shopify takes a cut and we can not refund the portion even if I wanted to.
I've pushed some people up the list, check your emails. We have 8 people dropping out/cancelling or refunding/whatever the reason is. I'm adding 5 more from the list and no more.
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I am no longer part of this GB because Beaming unilaterally decided to drop me despite my objections. This is really disappointing to me since I have been an avid fan of KIRA design and have been looking forward to the perfect trio of KIRAs since I've been fortunate to be selected in all three KIRA60, KIRA EXS and KIRA80 raffles.
I wanted to share what happend since I believe there is relevant info for the participants of this GB.
I am no longer part of this GB because Beaming unilaterally decided to drop me despite my objections. This is really disappointing to me since I have been an avid fan of KIRA design and have been looking forward to the perfect trio of KIRAs since I've been fortunate to be selected in all three KIRA60, KIRA EXS and KIRA80 raffles.
I wanted to share what happend since I believe there is relevant info for the participants of this GB.
2 little dents and a couple ano spots makes your keyboard defective? A lot of people seem to forget that a keyboard is a tool and not a piece of art. I understand wanting things as close to perfect as possible, but once a keyboard is in shipping, there's very little a seller can do.
TBH, I don't blame beaming at all for not wanting to do deal with complaints like that.
I am no longer part of this GB because Beaming unilaterally decided to drop me despite my objections. This is really disappointing to me since I have been an avid fan of KIRA design and have been looking forward to the perfect trio of KIRAs since I've been fortunate to be selected in all three KIRA60, KIRA EXS and KIRA80 raffles.
I wanted to share what happend since I believe there is relevant info for the participants of this GB.
This unpleasant experience started right before the flurry of invoices were sent out.
Beaming contacted me via PM asking
"Given that you've previously requested for a partial refund during one of our buys and the history of the whole KIRA60 thing. Are you completely ok with possible small defects that do turn up on the boards? Please let me know as soon as possible."
I replied back asking to clarify what he means and that there is no need to worry unless there will be serious defects like those turned up on my KIRA60.
Subsequently, Beaming sent this message
"I am Caleb. For the KIRA60 we did not receive other complaints. I think for the sake of all of us, can I suggest that you do not join the GB?"
I replied with my objection and asked to put the non-sense behind and move forward.
Few days later I discovered that I'm no longer on the list.
I also briefly looked into Beaming's claim that there was no other complaint.
Without going into detail, it was pretty easy to find a fed up participant in his past GB. That person (reputable guy in the local keyboarding commnunity) told me his complaints were simply ignored and that drove him crazy.
Here is the defects on my KIRA60 for your reference so you know that I did not make frivolous claims.
Dents: https://i.imgur.com/XT5BrVi.jpg
Ano defects: https://i.imgur.com/k3BA9QD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/oGLh1Tl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GR00mpp.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sMxaLuh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BFDJrzT.jpg
Here is the full message exchange.
Received: https://i.imgur.com/yegJmqO.jpg
Sent: https://i.imgur.com/syazX6w.jpg
Take this post with a grain of salt since it represents one person's experience.
Based on my first person experience though--having received a defective product, having dealt punitive response for reporting a legit defect claim--I no longer have confidence that I will receive quality product or good GB experience from Beaming.
So, despite the disappointment of getting abruptly dropped and giving up the dream of the perfect KIRA trio, I'm actually little relieved.
I shared what's going on with some acquaintances who happened to be participants in this GB, and they asked how to deal with the risks knowing what happened to me and that other fed up guy.
I asked around and the best tip I got was to ask the GB runner to specify the quality standards and servicing policy. I would encourage the remaining participants to ask Beaming to clarify what constitutes defects--surely you are not "completely ok with possible small defects that do turn up on the boards" if they mean dents and ano defects. Ask Beaming to confirm that he will answer inquiries regarding defects and provide servicing to them.
Lastly, I'll be selling my defective KIRA60 and sell my spot on KIRA EXS, so if you are interested, pls PM me.
It's not perfect, but I was told you were given a significant amount of refund for this "defective" keyboard that you are now planning to sell. I advised beamingrobot against doing this group buy even before he launched it, and because of this I will advise the same again.
Pretty amusing that you only shared this when you were taken out of the TKL buy. A cancellation will not affect me personally, only those who wanted the board. What we get in return is not worth the hassle of doing it, even more so for beamingrobot since he handles everything about the group buys.
One persons experience shouldn’t ruin this gb. There are FAR WORSE buys and cases out there and one little kira60 doesn’t dictate beaming’s ability to deliver quality. To be fair, we haven’t seen the exs, but kira60 went fine and I’m positive the exs gb will be just as good. Anyways, hope5fully beaming doesn’t decide to chance this over one rotten egg, but understandable if he does :-[
One persons experience shouldn’t ruin this gb. There are FAR WORSE buys and cases out there and one little kira60 doesn’t dictate beaming’s ability to deliver quality. To be fair, we haven’t seen the exs, but kira60 went fine and I’m positive the exs gb will be just as good. Anyways, hopefully beaming doesn’t decide to chance this over one rotten egg, but understandable if he does :-[
Winners:
KIRA80 / KIRA S:
Coffeeshopcoder
bciamny
schlep
jshane
Leovan_13
sroop
kissingyou
niknok88
Hamel
OracleKev
CornCha0s
kevinlim02
Vincentalpha
stepstone82
spiritjeon
necromanx
foxmancore
random0987
bloznalisd
bminhz
forevermadrigal
jubjubcity
papedahut
Att1cus
NovaComet
Bubblegum
clasicks
eyedrop
//gainsborough
E3E
redbanshee
kokugatsu
Carlobv
jumpmineralwater
Rempired
elDuderino
etherealsound
ridiclewis
oHimari
koojahyung
razor_blade
mathleejj
yonghf
jaymaikan
NovaComet
SBN
Superdoedoe
olivia
Oblotzky
Jkush463
51-65:
OffbeatClacking
create_alt_delete
clik_clak
sparkle
azw898 <-----------------------------------------------------------
vonswoopington
henz
apple8500
Jamps
mops
lsu1245
moonmembrane
AstralBandit
KIRA S only:
heycheeeno
Jimmare
Mikiberry
nulltorious
Just got a refund notification. I'm guessing the GB is now cancelled :(Same. Hoping that there will be a reboot!
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:confused: this is total garbage but i felt it coming.. Well beaming and camper if you have an proto you wanna sell i got 1k back in my acct ill pay for one out right. Missed modern M0110 for this and zephyr this was not what i was hoping. I would have picked up another slot if it would have helped.I don't even have one! Was gonna get mine made together with the GB as I always do, but thanks for the support, lots of other cool boards coming out as well :thumb:
:confused: this is total garbage but i felt it coming.. Well beaming and camper if you have an proto you wanna sell i got 1k back in my acct ill pay for one out right. Missed modern M0110 for this and zephyr this was not what i was hoping. I would have picked up another slot if it would have helped.I don't even have one! Was gonna get mine made together with the GB as I always do, but thanks for the support, lots of other cool boards coming out as well :thumb:
Oh man, that's so unfortunate but I totally get that you guys do this out of your own passion for the hobby and I can only wish you the best in all future endeavors! If there ever is another Kira TKL GB, I will definitely be in for it. RIP best TKL of 2018Second this.
Dam saw the refund email. Guess I've lost $15 bucks to fees
Dam saw the refund email. Guess I've lost $15 bucks to fees
You obviously didn’t read what beaming said :p
Dam saw the refund email. Guess I've lost $15 bucks to fees
You obviously didn’t read what beaming said :p
Nah international fees for using a credit card. Dunno if they'd be included or not afterwards the refunds have been sent
But yeah didn't see what Beaming said :D
Dam saw the refund email. Guess I've lost $15 bucks to fees
You obviously didn’t read what beaming said :p
Nah international fees for using a credit card. Dunno if they'd be included or not afterwards the refunds have been sent
Anyone else not have their refund post to their account yet? Specifically, anyone else in US?I did not have issues for the refund, but I had to spend 30mins on the phone with my bank to let them charge it initially. I'd say call up the bank... And perhaps PM beaming to see if there's any transaction I'd you can use when you talk to the bank...
I had a heck of a time getting my bank to allow the initial transaction. Now I'm starting to worry they are blocking the refund.
Anyone else not have their refund post to their account yet? Specifically, anyone else in US?
I had a heck of a time getting my bank to allow the initial transaction. Now I'm starting to worry they are blocking the refund.
Alright so since I've received some emails about this, here's some info about refunds:
https://ecommerce.shopify.com/c/payments-shipping-fulfilment/t/refunds-how-long-will-it-take-for-a-customer-to-get-their-money-back-357631
TL:DR: basically it takes 3-5 days for it to reach you, please do not attempt to chargeback before that.
Some explanation on why you should not chargeback asap:
1. Shopify has withheld the entire portion of this GB
2. They have deducted $ from my CC for every single refund we've processed, and all refunds have been processed
3. I now have a huge CC bill to pay at the end of the month, the funds were withheld due to chargebacks and stuff
4. I'd appreciate if people do not charge back first, it takes time for the refund to reach you. Suffice to say the money is on its way
5. Why does it take so long? I have no idea, based on other online shops I've used this seems to be par for the course since we're not huge fronts like Amazon etc
Hope this helps, some of you were literally just refunded like 10 hours ago
Also, in the future please note that due to things like timezone differences and stuff it's very likely that your bank has just received the instructions for the refund to occur today, I'm not sure how everyone's banks work but usually it takes more than 1 business day to process these kinds of transactions. However, if it's been a week and you still don't hear anything then please let me know!Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
I'm down for whatever, so long as I get another chance at these boards. Getting selected was one of the best things that happened this year.I feel the same way
Another vendor has expressed willingness to help, and agreed to give priority to raffle winners. EVE will take over production if it pushes through.
Another vendor has expressed willingness to help, and agreed to give priority to raffle winners. EVE will take over production if it pushes through.
I'll submit the list of raffle winners to thesis who will forward it to the new vendor, rest assured we'll do our best to help those who've paid previously.
Another vendor has expressed willingness to help, and agreed to give priority to raffle winners. EVE will take over production if it pushes through.
I'll submit the list of raffle winners to thesis who will forward it to the new vendor, rest assured we'll do our best to help those who've paid previously.Thanks beaming. Really appreciate the effort you put into the GB.
I'll submit the list of raffle winners to thesis who will forward it to the new vendor, rest assured we'll do our best to help those who've paid previously.
I'll submit the list of raffle winners to thesis who will forward it to the new vendor, rest assured we'll do our best to help those who've paid previously.
Thank thesiscamper, he's been putting in a lot of effort to try and get these out in one way or another :)
Yooooooooo!! This might still happen!? YOOOOOOOOOOOO!It is very likely, the vendor and EVE just need to agree on some details so we'll have to wait for news. I'd also like to say this isn't 100% confirmed, but more likely to happen than not.
Thanks for the update thesis!Yooooooooo!! This might still happen!? YOOOOOOOOOOOO!It is very likely, the vendor and EVE just need to agree on some details so we'll have to wait for news. I'd also like to say this isn't 100% confirmed, but more likely to happen than not.
Yooooooooo!! This might still happen!? YOOOOOOOOOOOO!It is very likely, the vendor and EVE just need to agree on some details so we'll have to wait for news. I'd also like to say this isn't 100% confirmed, but more likely to happen than not.
Yooooooooo!! This might still happen!? YOOOOOOOOOOOO!It is very likely, the vendor and EVE just need to agree on some details so we'll have to wait for news. I'd also like to say this isn't 100% confirmed, but more likely to happen than not.
wondering if theres any news, saw the EVE sample :P looks nice!
wondering if theres any news, saw the EVE sample :P looks nice!
(https://preview.ibb.co/ctNoBU/huh.png) (https://ibb.co/jUcc5p)
....huh.
wondering if theres any news, saw the EVE sample :P looks nice!
its on campers page, https://www.instagram.com/p/BmIJbX4DsDzzZqIEO-YcR2-9wyqHl2DjZ_YzoQ0/?hl=en&taken-by=thesiscamper
wondering if theres any news, saw the EVE sample :P looks nice!
(https://preview.ibb.co/ctNoBU/huh.png) (https://ibb.co/jUcc5p)
....huh.
Well, the board is pretty hot...
Yooooooooo!! This might still happen!? YOOOOOOOOOOOO!It is very likely, the vendor and EVE just need to agree on some details so we'll have to wait for news. I'd also like to say this isn't 100% confirmed, but more likely to happen than not.
Yess, it appears this is gonna go live.wher? when?
Yess, it appears this is gonna go live.wher? when?
Yess, it appears this is gonna go live.wher? when?
not sure but on thesis' ig, he posted a bunch of Kira TKL saying "soon"
zFrontier is picking this up, I asked them to prioritize those who joined and paid before and they agreed. We'll see how it works out.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/f826bec7281393ccb4925f34aa9da080.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/6603d7bac3c809578446d2c033c50a4e.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/343269d6527f0d6c514890a23031651a.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/cbd995e448988407421357bcae608a81.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/28b5f074ee14d5135c8e02474c7b7c25.jpg)
zFrontier is picking this up, I asked them to prioritize those who joined and paid before and they agreed. We'll see how it works out.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/f826bec7281393ccb4925f34aa9da080.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/6603d7bac3c809578446d2c033c50a4e.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/343269d6527f0d6c514890a23031651a.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/cbd995e448988407421357bcae608a81.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/28b5f074ee14d5135c8e02474c7b7c25.jpg)
zFrontier is picking this up, I asked them to prioritize those who joined and paid before and they agreed. We'll see how it works out.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/f826bec7281393ccb4925f34aa9da080.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/6603d7bac3c809578446d2c033c50a4e.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/343269d6527f0d6c514890a23031651a.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/cbd995e448988407421357bcae608a81.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/28b5f074ee14d5135c8e02474c7b7c25.jpg)
So it will still remain a limited-run GB?
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Nice so zFrontier then. Looks like the design has changed a bit also, no more acrylic glow?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J71FmDb.jpg)
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Nice so zFrontier then. Looks like the design has changed a bit also, no more acrylic glow?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/J71FmDb.jpg)
It never had a diffuser option.
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zFrontier is picking this up, I asked them to prioritize those who joined and paid before and they agreed. We'll see how it works out.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/f826bec7281393ccb4925f34aa9da080.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/6603d7bac3c809578446d2c033c50a4e.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/343269d6527f0d6c514890a23031651a.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/cbd995e448988407421357bcae608a81.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180822/28b5f074ee14d5135c8e02474c7b7c25.jpg)
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1. EVE will make the kits.
2. Priority is for those who paid, got refunded (I assume everybody got the refund) and wants to join again.
3. Same expected price point, probably this month.
Is EVE going to be making both the KIRA80 and the KIRA S?Yes.
1. EVE will make the kits.
2. Priority is for those who paid, got refunded (I assume everybody got the refund) and wants to join again.
3. Same expected price point, probably this month.
1. EVE will make the kits.SWEET! I love his anodisation on the MOON TKL... best I've ever felt it's so smooth
I assume everybody got the refundI assume, worked on my end at least...
1. EVE will make the kits.SWEET! I love his anodisation on the MOON TKL... best I've ever felt it's so smoothI assume everybody got the refundI assume, worked on my end at least...
also, will the Kira S also be 50pcs again? (meaning I could still hop on to that one too even though I didn't last time?)
It probably is, I'll have to wait for confirmation but zF didn't really plan to do anything different from the cancelled buy. The only difference I can be sure of are the colors.ok, thanks for the info :)
I can only promise giving priority to those who paid, and I wouldn't want to impose too much on zFrontier. I think it will be FCFS.How are they gonna take proof of that? by the eMail Address we used previously via shopify?
I can only promise giving priority to those who paid, and I wouldn't want to impose too much on zFrontier. I think it will be FCFS.How are they gonna take proof of that? by the eMail Address we used previously via shopify?
Ah, before as in before the rest of the GB is open to the public? (I'm just worrying too much that someone will say I'm Mr. Such and Such and steal the spot ;). I'm too paranoid I guess. Sry for the annoying questions :-\ )I can only promise giving priority to those who paid, and I wouldn't want to impose too much on zFrontier. I think it will be FCFS.How are they gonna take proof of that? by the eMail Address we used previously via shopify?
Through a list I will ask beamingrobot to provide, and share with zF. People in this list will probably be given a chance to join before everyone else.
Ah, before as in before the rest of the GB is open to the public? (I'm just worrying too much that someone will say I'm Mr. Such and Such and steal the spot ;). I'm too paranoid I guess. Sry for the annoying questions :-\ )I can only promise giving priority to those who paid, and I wouldn't want to impose too much on zFrontier. I think it will be FCFS.How are they gonna take proof of that? by the eMail Address we used previously via shopify?
Through a list I will ask beamingrobot to provide, and share with zF. People in this list will probably be given a chance to join before everyone else.
ah ok, that sounds good. Ok, I'll stop buggering you now ;P sry :DAh, before as in before the rest of the GB is open to the public? (I'm just worrying too much that someone will say I'm Mr. Such and Such and steal the spot ;) . I'm too paranoid I guess. Sry for the annoying questions :-\ )I can only promise giving priority to those who paid, and I wouldn't want to impose too much on zFrontier. I think it will be FCFS.How are they gonna take proof of that? by the eMail Address we used previously via shopify?
Through a list I will ask beamingrobot to provide, and share with zF. People in this list will probably be given a chance to join before everyone else.
The list will include real names though, so I would think it's not as easy to just steal someone's identity.
Thanks for the clarification. As #56 I really hope I get a chance to to get in on this either through invoice or a heads up before it is opened up to the public. :)
Thanks for the clarification. As #56 I really hope I get a chance to to get in on this either through invoice or a heads up before it is opened up to the public. :)
I understand, but it will be a whole different buy so I can't promise anything. I will have to discuss it further with zF and since they are here to help I don't want to impose like I said. I am in no position to demand more, IMO.
I've sent a message to those who will be given priority to join but 3 people's names from beamingrobot's list do not come up using the forum's autocomplete so I'm not sure who these guys are:
- riocc
- sparkle
- azw898
I've sent a message to those who will be given priority to join but 3 people's names from beamingrobot's list do not come up using the forum's autocomplete so I'm not sure who these guys are:Hi, he used my reddit name... riocc would be me :)
- riocc
- sparkle
- azw898
I've sent a message to those who will be given priority to join but 3 people's names from beamingrobot's list do not come up using the forum's autocomplete so I'm not sure who these guys are:
- riocc
- sparkle
- azw898
Thanks for the clarification. As #56 I really hope I get a chance to to get in on this either through invoice or a heads up before it is opened up to the public. :)
I understand, but it will be a whole different buy so I can't promise anything. I will have to discuss it further with zF and since they are here to help I don't want to impose like I said. I am in no position to demand more, IMO.
Is the zfrontier buy going to be limited availability like it was on here (50 spots) or will it be available to all?
Is the zfrontier buy going to be limited availability like it was on here (50 spots) or will it be available to all?
Is the zfrontier buy going to be limited availability like it was on here (50 spots) or will it be available to all?
zFrontier and I agreed on 50 kits, the priority list won't make sense otherwise. They just stepped in to help it push through so they're keeping most of the buy the same.
Probably first refusal. Zfrontier will likely send them an email confirming if they would like to take part. Following which, they would likely release the remaining slots to the general public.Is the zfrontier buy going to be limited availability like it was on here (50 spots) or will it be available to all?
zFrontier and I agreed on 50 kits, the priority list won't make sense otherwise. They just stepped in to help it push through so they're keeping most of the buy the same.
Any update on when it will start and how the winners will be notified first?
Any updates from zFrontier yet?
I'm on the list but I haven't heard anything from them yet.
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Any updates from zFrontier yet?
I'm on the list but I haven't heard anything from them yet.
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Any updates from zFrontier yet?
I'm on the list but I haven't heard anything from them yet.
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According to correspondance I had with Alex from zFrontier he mentioned around mid September (with mails to previous participants going out before mid sept.)
zFrontier has indeed been very busy lately, but they should be making the link available soon, hopefully by the weekend. Sorry for the delays, and thank you for your patience.
I guess the GB won't be this weekend then?no rush, it'll be soon enough... :)
Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.this is totally fine mate, you did your part :) it's not like waiting is something new to us :D
Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.
Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.
yap, I also like the news with the serial Nr for the priority list boards :)Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.
Thanks for the update! I got a mail from zFrontier, for being on the priority list, saying it's coming soon.
yap, I also like the news with the serial Nr for the priority list boards :)Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.
Thanks for the update! I got a mail from zFrontier, for being on the priority list, saying it's coming soon.
I'm still wondering (/hoping) if it's now Eve doing the boards...
oh, sweet, that means it's gonna have a divine anodisation :)yap, I also like the news with the serial Nr for the priority list boards :)Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.
Thanks for the update! I got a mail from zFrontier, for being on the priority list, saying it's coming soon.
I'm still wondering (/hoping) if it's now Eve doing the boards...
It is EVE, and the boards have been made, so you might just be choosing from available colors.
oh, sweet, that means it's gonna have a divine anodisation :)yap, I also like the news with the serial Nr for the priority list boards :)Apologies for the delay, I didn't intend to keep your hopes up I just share what I've been told. I haven't heard back from zF and at this point asking for dates seem pointless since it has been moved back again and again. I guess all I can say is it launches when it launches.
Thanks for the update! I got a mail from zFrontier, for being on the priority list, saying it's coming soon.
I'm still wondering (/hoping) if it's now Eve doing the boards...
It is EVE, and the boards have been made, so you might just be choosing from available colors.
oooh, quick pickings it's gonna be then ;)
I do not like the sound of that, i could have waited all this time to not get what i want that disappoints me a lot. Guess i just have to hope i get the color i want or ill pass. If i wanted this board fast i wouldnt be joining a GB. speed dosnt make me happy. I mean i guess its Whatever i just feel like thats a slap in the face after all this waiting.
That effects my argument absolutely none. QC is part of the deal from the get go. you cant just say oo that slipped through cause we were doing the buy this way instead of that way its absolutely no different.
are there pictures of the finished product? it'll help narrow down what color to choose from when the link is sent out by zfrontier.
are there pictures of the finished product? it'll help narrow down what color to choose from when the link is sent out by zfrontier.
There's only pics on thesis instagram
Maybe he meant that the boards have been made and we can choose colors as the boards are just before the anodization state?
sooo, apparently it's on the CN version of the shop already: http://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790 ??According to their site, the GB will be open in 5 hours. Hope they didn't forget about us...
I hope we get our mails soon
sooo, apparently it's on the CN version of the shop already: http://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790 (http://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790) ??According to their site, the GB will be open in 5 hours. Hope they didn't forget about us...
I hope we get our mails soonShow Image(https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji848.png)
Also, there isn't an option to get both extra PCBs and plates atm, seems to be either or.
sooo, apparently it's on the CN version of the shop already: http://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790 (http://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790) ??According to their site, the GB will be open in 5 hours. Hope they didn't forget about us...
I hope we get our mails soonShow Image(https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji848.png)
Also, there isn't an option to get both extra PCBs and plates atm, seems to be either or.
ah, that makes sense... I got a mail from Alex that he's currently preparing the site for the en.zfrontier website too. I guess they'll be up the same time then.
Really hope we get a chance for that black weight too
It seems like the boards for chinese GB has finished production (4 colors, wkl fixed) / pcb and plate needs production
Alex said that for international GB (the one on en.zfrontier) we will get to choose either wk/wkl layouts and also more colors are offered. (Lead time is expected to be a month and two months max.)
Didn't ask about the back weight.. so i have no infos on that
Didn't ask about the back weight.. so i have no infos on that
are we still geting kira s or no i dont even see any mention lol
ah i see. super torn between the pearl blue and lavender almost think the lavender wont match anything. well went pearl blue. will probably buy another in the normal gb in red.
ah i see. super torn between the pearl blue and lavender almost think the lavender wont match anything. well went pearl blue. will probably buy another in the normal gb in red.
pearl blue will sure match godspeed very nicely. Lavender maybe with Violet Tendencies?
I think I'll pair the poseidon blue I went for with either dark solarized or a vintage, beige gmk set (maybe Nautilus or green screen, but I don't think those'll be the best matches)
Are there any photo differences between pearl blue and Poseidon blue? Which is the blue one pictured on the site?Pearl blue is the light blue. Poseidon the very dark (almost dark gray) blue.
Didn't ask about the back weight.. so i have no infos on that
I asked about the black weight, but no answer on that yet. Maybe he's checking that with Eve.
EDIT: Yeah, he said he'll talk to EVE about it :)
So it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?
So it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?
I was able to pick brass plate as an extra option. Where you get extra PCB and such.
This is all just very strange. The Kira is only available on the China ZFrontier website and not on the En ZFrontier website https://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790
The accessories are on the English ZFrontier website https://en.zfrontier.com/products/kira-ac
Should anyone on the original groupbuy list be expecting a link to buy from the English ZFrontier site (anything more than just the accessory?)
This is all just very strange. The Kira is only available on the China ZFrontier website and not on the En ZFrontier website https://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790
The accessories are on the English ZFrontier website https://en.zfrontier.com/products/kira-ac
Should anyone on the original groupbuy list be expecting a link to buy from the English ZFrontier site (anything more than just the accessory?)
Only that paid get priority and have a special link to the board. According to my email, after 24 hours the buy will open up to the public
This is all just very strange. The Kira is only available on the China ZFrontier website and not on the En ZFrontier website https://www.zfrontier.com/m/4790
The accessories are on the English ZFrontier website https://en.zfrontier.com/products/kira-ac
Should anyone on the original groupbuy list be expecting a link to buy from the English ZFrontier site (anything more than just the accessory?)
Only that paid get priority and have a special link to the board. According to my email, after 24 hours the buy will open up to the public
The chinese page said it is limited to 66 pieces (according to google translator :P )
Will the international GB have the same limit or is it higher?
So it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?
I was able to pick brass plate as an extra option. Where you get extra PCB and such.
I do see that now. Thanks. Are there any photos of what poseidon looks like? Trying to decide between that and the grey.
Edit: Is this poseidon?
So it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?
I was able to pick brass plate as an extra option. Where you get extra PCB and such.
I do see that now. Thanks. Are there any photos of what poseidon looks like? Trying to decide between that and the grey.
Edit: Is this poseidon?
I'd like to know this as well? Are there other pics?
So it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?
I was able to pick brass plate as an extra option. Where you get extra PCB and such.
I do see that now. Thanks. Are there any photos of what poseidon looks like? Trying to decide between that and the grey.
Edit: Is this poseidon?
I'd like to know this as well? Are there other pics?
+1 on that. The poseidon blue looks a bit more greenish-blue on the priority GB page (which I think I'd prefer) but if it's more of a navy blue as posted above I think I'll go with the black.
yeah, that's poseidon... these pics are a bit darker lighting compared to the GB Page product pics so it looks more darker blue. with brighter light it looks like it has a very slight greenish hue to it tooSo it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?
I was able to pick brass plate as an extra option. Where you get extra PCB and such.
I do see that now. Thanks. Are there any photos of what poseidon looks like? Trying to decide between that and the grey.
Edit: Is this poseidon?
yeah, that's poseidon... these pics are a bit darker lighting compared to the GB Page product pics so it looks more darker blue. with brighter light it looks like it has a very slight greenish hue to it tooSo it looks like brass plates won't be offered in the buy. Does anyone know if there is someplace I could acquire a brass plate that would be compatible with this board?
I was able to pick brass plate as an extra option. Where you get extra PCB and such.
I do see that now. Thanks. Are there any photos of what poseidon looks like? Trying to decide between that and the grey.
Edit: Is this poseidon?
That's a one offAh I see, looked similar enough to assume it's maybe lighting difference
So that "dark navy" board is NOT poseidon blue & NOT offered in current buy?That's a one offAh I see, looked similar enough to assume it's maybe lighting difference
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So that "dark navy" board is NOT poseidon blue & NOT offered in current buy?That's a one offAh I see, looked similar enough to assume it's maybe lighting difference
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yes because that was prior to eves involvment.So that "dark navy" board is NOT poseidon blue & NOT offered in current buy?That's a one offAh I see, looked similar enough to assume it's maybe lighting difference
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yes because that was prior to eves involvment.So that "dark navy" board is NOT poseidon blue & NOT offered in current buy?That's a one offAh I see, looked similar enough to assume it's maybe lighting difference
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Went with the black case, hopefully the lead time isn't too much longer. Was debating putting laser on the poseidon blue, but that might be a stretch. Super stoked!What plate color did you choose? I'm thingking of matching gmk laser too.
Went with the black case, hopefully the lead time isn't too much longer. Was debating putting laser on the poseidon blue, but that might be a stretch. Super stoked!What plate color did you choose? I'm thingking of matching gmk laser too.
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yes because that was prior to eves involvment.So that "dark navy" board is NOT poseidon blue & NOT offered in current buy?That's a one offAh I see, looked similar enough to assume it's maybe lighting difference
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Mhm? Im actually really confused about Poseidon color... If it’s not the “dark navy” in the pictures (for example the picture of the two boards together) then what color is it? In the color sample squares it looks exactly like that...
Also what color is the plate of the red board? Silver isn’t an option?
Would be good to have confirmation, which pictures are of the EVE boards!
I chose pearl blue, but I won't be using the aluminum plate. I got an extra brass plate and I think I'm gonna have another special kind of plate for this board :thinking:
I chose pearl blue, but I won't be using the aluminum plate. I got an extra brass plate and I think I'm gonna have another special kind of plate for this board :thinking:
Were you already able to get the extra plate or PCB ? The parts seem not yet live - or am i missing something ?
Sorry I can't confirm or describe colors relative to color names, I don't have color samples. I have a blue one at home but I'm not sure which blue that is.Thesiscamper, can you kindly your Kira80 despite the color just for the reference? :)
I think I will just be safe and go with grey. Hopefully I won't regret it.grey is a good safe bet, that goes with a ton of caps.
I think I will just be safe and go with grey. Hopefully I won't regret it.grey is a good safe bet, that goes with a ton of caps.
I think its also really shows the facets very well.
The only thing that turned me away from it was that I thought that the seam between the top and bottom was a little too apparent due to the light color. I could just be imagining it as well !
You mean the dark, space grey of apple ? I could be wrong, but the grey looks very light , almost silver. The Poseidon blue however looks more like the apple space grey... at least that silver looking color is what I thought the grey was...I think I will just be safe and go with grey. Hopefully I won't regret it.grey is a good safe bet, that goes with a ton of caps.
I think its also really shows the facets very well.
The only thing that turned me away from it was that I thought that the seam between the top and bottom was a little too apparent due to the light color. I could just be imagining it as well !
I'm just hoping the grey is similar to the MacBook grey.
You mean the dark, space grey of apple ? I could be wrong, but the grey looks very light , almost silver. The Poseidon blue however looks more like the apple space grey... at least that silver looking color is what I thought the grey was...I think I will just be safe and go with grey. Hopefully I won't regret it.grey is a good safe bet, that goes with a ton of caps.
I think its also really shows the facets very well.
The only thing that turned me away from it was that I thought that the seam between the top and bottom was a little too apparent due to the light color. I could just be imagining it as well !
I'm just hoping the grey is similar to the MacBook grey.
You mean the dark, space grey of apple ? I could be wrong, but the grey looks very light , almost silver. The Poseidon blue however looks more like the apple space grey... at least that silver looking color is what I thought the grey was...I think I will just be safe and go with grey. Hopefully I won't regret it.grey is a good safe bet, that goes with a ton of caps.
I think its also really shows the facets very well.
The only thing that turned me away from it was that I thought that the seam between the top and bottom was a little too apparent due to the light color. I could just be imagining it as well !
I'm just hoping the grey is similar to the MacBook grey.
No I don't think that silver is the grey that is being offered. In fact, I don't think silver is even an option in this buy. At any all this confusion just kind of goes to show that they should maybe have clarified which colors are which a bit better.
Edit: Actually, this has kind of got me thinking...that silver color might actually be the grey being offered. I really hope they can clarify some of this.
You mean the dark, space grey of apple ? I could be wrong, but the grey looks very light , almost silver. The Poseidon blue however looks more like the apple space grey... at least that silver looking color is what I thought the grey was...I think I will just be safe and go with grey. Hopefully I won't regret it.grey is a good safe bet, that goes with a ton of caps.
I think its also really shows the facets very well.
The only thing that turned me away from it was that I thought that the seam between the top and bottom was a little too apparent due to the light color. I could just be imagining it as well !
I'm just hoping the grey is similar to the MacBook grey.
No I don't think that silver is the grey that is being offered. In fact, I don't think silver is even an option in this buy. At any all this confusion just kind of goes to show that they should maybe have clarified which colors are which a bit better.
Edit: Actually, this has kind of got me thinking...that silver color might actually be the grey being offered. I really hope they can clarify some of this.
So I got a reply from Alex this morning with more info on poseidon. Hopefully I'm not bombing this thread with too many photos. It also appears that the moon grey actually is more of a silver color, as noted in one of the photos where it shows up with the poseidon in the background.
Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.
also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.
Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.
also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.
Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.
also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.
would Nautilus Nightmares work ? Or Modern Dolch ?Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.
also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.
I think it looks like there's a touch of green in there. Keeping my Poseidon Blue order, since it looks more unusual than the other colors. Not sure what keyset to pair it with. Was thinking Troubled Minds at first, but we'll see!
Modern Dolch if it doesn't have a green tint, normal Dolch if it doeswould Nautilus Nightmares work ? Or Modern Dolch ?Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.
also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.
I think it looks like there's a touch of green in there. Keeping my Poseidon Blue order, since it looks more unusual than the other colors. Not sure what keyset to pair it with. Was thinking Troubled Minds at first, but we'll see!
As for that red, I don't think that's a Kira, the bezels are too thick and the corner is rounded.Aha ! good catch ! I wish Zfrontier would update the product shots with less "touched up" versions. Something from a phone under natural light would be best.
At any rate, in my haste, I put in an order for moon "grey", thinking it was closer to a macbook grey. I wonder if I can still change...I think you should be able to.
As for that red, I don't think that's a Kira, the bezels are too thick and the corner is rounded.Aha ! good catch ! I wish Zfrontier would update the product shots with less "touched up" versions. Something from a phone under natural light would be best.At any rate, in my haste, I put in an order for moon "grey", thinking it was closer to a macbook grey. I wonder if I can still change...I think you should be able to.
Have you emailed Alex again ? Do you know him or did you just reply to the priority buy link ?
If you do know him, could you please ask for a couple of shots of the red ? ;D
GMK Waves (still in IC) would go great with it!Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.
also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.
I think it looks like there's a touch of green in there. Keeping my Poseidon Blue order, since it looks more unusual than the other colors. Not sure what keyset to pair it with. Was thinking Troubled Minds at first, but we'll see!
Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.
also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.Super helpful !! Thanks !
I can catch a glimpse of the red in the last picture, and I feel like its darker/deeper(which I prefer) than the product shots on the website. The product shots seem very washed out and overexposed for some reason.
also - Posiedon "Blue" - I honestly cant see the blue here - maybe my eye s are going as well ! Oh well.
It's definitely not just you. It looks super grey with just a hint of green in some of the photos. As for that red, I don't think that's a Kira, the bezels are too thick and the corner is rounded.
At any rate, in my haste, I put in an order for moon "grey", thinking it was closer to a macbook grey. I wonder if I can still change...
Any suggestions on which color would fit the SA Space Cadet / Symbiosis 2.0 keycaps well?
I think the blue is a bit too light to match that set? :-X
Any suggestions on which color would fit the SA Space Cadet / Symbiosis 2.0 keycaps well?
I think the blue is a bit too light to match that set? :-X
IMO, if there were "Dark/Space Grey" available it would be the best match. However, I believe black could serve as an fair alternative.
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Any suggestions on which color would fit the SA Space Cadet / Symbiosis 2.0 keycaps well?
I think the blue is a bit too light to match that set? :-X
IMO, if there were "Dark/Space Grey" available it would be the best match. However, I believe black could serve as an fair alternative.
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So there is a black variant available?
Sorry for the dumb questions but I can currently only see the colors on the chinese page and those that where posted here. :D
Since other members already shared photos from Alex,
I'll post one that seems to be omitted - Pearl Blue sample.
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i don't know if you can, but I would contact Alex; he was very promt and helpful with inquiries.Since other members already shared photos from Alex,
I'll post one that seems to be omitted - Pearl Blue sample.
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Yoooo this looks WAY different in product page... if I wanted to change colors how would I go about doing that? Just email Alex?
Alex has been awesome in responding to emails about colors -Hmm damn that red looks good. You think it will pair well worth red samurai?
here is the red :
I would imagine GMK burgundy would be a better match as red samurai is really dark.Alex has been awesome in responding to emails about colors -Hmm damn that red looks good. You think it will pair well worth red samurai?
here is the red :
And I'm in!
Also ordered the SA Symbiosis pack on Kono.
Way too hyped right now :D
So I got a reply from Alex this morning with more info on poseidon. Hopefully I'm not bombing this thread with too many photos. It also appears that the moon grey actually is more of a silver color, as noted in one of the photos where it shows up with the poseidon in the background.The poseidon blue looks very green to me.
The original GB was cancelled, and a new vendor and manufacturer took over. The new team is offering new colors. The original prototype grey was not offered in the first attempt of this GB either.So I got a reply from Alex this morning with more info on poseidon. Hopefully I'm not bombing this thread with too many photos. It also appears that the moon grey actually is more of a silver color, as noted in one of the photos where it shows up with the poseidon in the background.The poseidon blue looks very green to me.
How come the grey color used for the prototype in OP wasn't made available?
any update on the matching numpad?
Thank you for clarifying.The original GB was cancelled, and a new vendor and manufacturer took over. The new team is offering new colors. The original prototype grey was not offered in the first attempt of this GB either.So I got a reply from Alex this morning with more info on poseidon. Hopefully I'm not bombing this thread with too many photos. It also appears that the moon grey actually is more of a silver color, as noted in one of the photos where it shows up with the poseidon in the background.The poseidon blue looks very green to me.
How come the grey color used for the prototype in OP wasn't made available?
I'm so confused. Is there going to be a new GB post when this is officially revived? Is it already revived and I should be throwing my money at someone?Considering the limited amount I wouldn't wait for too long.
I'm so confused. Is there going to be a new GB post when this is officially revived? Is it already revived and I should be throwing my money at someone?
Does anyone know how many degrees this board is angled by the way?
I just realized that the english GB page doesn't mention the backlighting option on the PCB.The english gb page doesn't state a lot of things. But hey, you get 2 more colors to choose from
Will there be one (LED throughholes)?
On the chinese page it said that it will have them.
Anyone know the thickness of the PC plate?
PC/Brass plates and extra pcbs link is down? GB expires before the Chinese holiday is over.Make sure you select "I am not buying Alu parts" in the Alu color options. When you select that, the plates and PCB will be in stock.
Will this Kira support a TX87 PCB?
Also, any pictures of the plate mounts?
Will this Kira support a TX87 PCB?It should - I asked about PCB compatibility and thesiscamper responded that this is based on the TX87-L3. He did mention that the space bar stabs are flipped.
Also, any pictures of the plate mounts?
I joined the GB... 400 US is really steep (for me)Welcome to the world of custom keybaord .. :) My first -- really expensive -- buy as well...
WK w/ Deep Black Plate.
Just got in but panicked and picked a red case with a purple plate. Who should I be reaching out to see if I can change my colors? Also I tried to pick up a brass plate but I could pick WKL. I guess I should have just bought one and they would have matched it to my case
Not to throw shade or anything, why are some people recommending Jane v2 over Kira? genuine curious question.General hype for tgr shill... Just keep in mind is gonna be 650$ minimum with shipping and pp fees, vs the 450 of kira
Not to throw shade or anything, why are some people recommending Jane v2 over Kira? genuine curious question.General hype for tgr shill... Just keep in mind is gonna be 650$ minimum with shipping and pp fees, vs the 450 of kira
Granted, i might join jane v2 too, but kira is a nicer design imo
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Yeah Eve really didnt do to great on colors with this one, was pretty disappointingNot to throw shade or anything, why are some people recommending Jane v2 over Kira? genuine curious question.General hype for tgr shill... Just keep in mind is gonna be 650$ minimum with shipping and pp fees, vs the 450 of kira
Granted, i might join jane v2 too, but kira is a nicer design imo
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same, TGR has a really good reputation and the designs are always very clean. I'd say the designs are prety comparable but TGR offers better colors...
saw a 7075 type 3 black ano kira on thesiscamper's ig. That's a one off, right? The description on this was 6061/6063 when it began
saw a 7075 type 3 black ano kira on thesiscamper's ig. That's a one off, right? The description on this was 6061/6063 when it beganthat’s the 60% kira
saw a 7075 type 3 black ano kira on thesiscamper's ig. That's a one off, right? The description on this was 6061/6063 when it beganthat’s the 60% kira
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Are there no photos of the purple version of this case?
Are there no photos of the purple version of this case?
I don't think those have been finished yet since it was indicated that there would be a longer wait time for black and purple
What is the layout of the bottom row for wkl? I can't really tell from the pictures
Are there no pads in the intl zf buy?>
Did anybody hear back from Alex regarding the black copper weight option for the intl GB?
Did anybody hear back from Alex regarding the black copper weight option for the intl GB?
I sent him a question about a week ago and still haven't gotten a response.
Did anybody hear back from Alex regarding the black copper weight option for the intl GB?
I sent him a question about a week ago and still haven't gotten a response.
Pretty sure zF is off until 8th because of golden week.
Not sure if this was always on the product page and I missed it, or if was added recently.No, electroplated can auso be gold, silver, rosegold, anything glossy basically
"the samples below have brushed aluminum and brass weight. Final products will have electro-plated brass."
Electro-plated = black?
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Did anyone hear back from Alex regarding different weight colors?
Wondering if the "black copper" plate offered in the Chinese GB were electroplated brass and not copper or if it is something entirely different.Not sure if this was always on the product page and I missed it, or if was added recently.No, electroplated can auso be gold, silver, rosegold, anything glossy basically
"the samples below have brushed aluminum and brass weight. Final products will have electro-plated brass."
Electro-plated = black?
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Wondering if the "black copper" plate offered in the Chinese GB were electroplated brass and not copper or if it is something entirely different.Not sure if this was always on the product page and I missed it, or if was added recently.No, electroplated can auso be gold, silver, rosegold, anything glossy basically
"the samples below have brushed aluminum and brass weight. Final products will have electro-plated brass."
Electro-plated = black?
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I'm actually chuckling a bit - back weight/ black weight.
Alex's email also hinted at a back weight - so that'll be interesting.
As to the weight colors - zF never really said anything. The prototypes they had on thesis' insta as well as the GB page shows sliver as well as brushed brass. So people - including myself - were wondering if thats gonna be an option.
I wish zF/thesisCamper would comment and clarify things a bit !
I'm actually chuckling a bit - back weight/ black weight.
Alex's email also hinted at a back weight - so that'll be interesting.
As to the weight colors - zF never really said anything. The prototypes they had on thesis' insta as well as the GB page shows sliver as well as brushed brass. So people - including myself - were wondering if thats gonna be an option.
I wish zF/thesisCamper would comment and clarify things a bit !
Thanks for chiming in @thesiscamper !!I'm actually chuckling a bit - back weight/ black weight.
Alex's email also hinted at a back weight - so that'll be interesting.
As to the weight colors - zF never really said anything. The prototypes they had on thesis' insta as well as the GB page shows sliver as well as brushed brass. So people - including myself - were wondering if thats gonna be an option.
I wish zF/thesisCamper would comment and clarify things a bit !
Alex will be addressing your queries soon, also there's no black weight it's a "back" weight on the rear.
I'm actually chuckling a bit - back weight/ black weight.
Alex's email also hinted at a back weight - so that'll be interesting.
As to the weight colors - zF never really said anything. The prototypes they had on thesis' insta as well as the GB page shows sliver as well as brushed brass. So people - including myself - were wondering if thats gonna be an option.
I wish zF/thesisCamper would comment and clarify things a bit !
From this page: https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keyboards/products/kira-tkl-by-thesiscamper
" * the samples below have brushed aluminum and brass weight. Final products will have electro-plated brass."
Thanks for chiming in @thesiscamper !!I'm actually chuckling a bit - back weight/ black weight.
Alex's email also hinted at a back weight - so that'll be interesting.
As to the weight colors - zF never really said anything. The prototypes they had on thesis' insta as well as the GB page shows sliver as well as brushed brass. So people - including myself - were wondering if thats gonna be an option.
I wish zF/thesisCamper would comment and clarify things a bit !
Alex will be addressing your queries soon, also there's no black weight it's a "back" weight on the rear.
Yes - I understand there is no "black" weight - that's why I was cracking up a bit.
I really wish there were a back weight -priced extra - would lend to some interesting color combinations.
I'm actually chuckling a bit - back weight/ black weight.
Alex's email also hinted at a back weight - so that'll be interesting.
As to the weight colors - zF never really said anything. The prototypes they had on thesis' insta as well as the GB page shows sliver as well as brushed brass. So people - including myself - were wondering if thats gonna be an option.
I wish zF/thesisCamper would comment and clarify things a bit !
Alex will be addressing your queries soon, also there's no black weight it's a "back" weight on the rear.
In an email with Alex, it was confirmed to me that there will be back (rear) weights for the priority units.
I wasn't following this group buy until I randomly saw the thread and bought in on the first of this month so I assume I'm not "priority", so can I pick up a weight later? I may not want to depending on the price but I am somewhat interested.most likely not, i want to say if the non priority units dont include a weight and there was no option to buy one than no. the priority units are different because we are the original backers that paid and were ready to buy the keyboard originally before it failed and eve picked it up.
So non pirority people get alu weight?
So non pirority people get alu weight?
I think that the "back" weight is only given to priority buys and Chinese national buys
KIRA TKL PARTS
- Electro-plated Brass weight
So non pirority people get alu weight?
I think that the "back" weight is only given to priority buys and Chinese national buys
So if I understand this right this is a weight additional to that "inside" the cutout kira logo on the back side?
Because this should be included in all buys as it said that on the zFrontier page.QuoteKIRA TKL PARTS
- Electro-plated Brass weight
Yep. The internal weight (w/ KIRA logo) is basically included in all buys (international, priority, chinese). The back weight (additional part) seems to be only for priority and chinese buy.
Yep. The internal weight (w/ KIRA logo) is basically included in all buys (international, priority, chinese). The back weight (additional part) seems to be only for priority and chinese buy.
Ah ok. Then I don't really care :D
I only really need the included one.
But just out of curiosity:
Are there any pictures of the additional weight?
I don't think that I have seen one on here.
Glad the kira s got delayed, I might able to afford one now :cool:
Glad the kira s got delayed, I might able to afford one now :cool:
kinda wish it would have come at the same time as the board but now instead of one ill get two, one to match each board. I just like when everything all arrives at once especially when i know there gonna nail me international shipping again lol.
Idk if any one has seen but apparently there was a pearl blue (at least it looks like) kira80 proto at the nor cal meetup https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9vykbj/norcal_rmk_meetup_2018/?st=JOC86GQK&sh=2f6aed6a
;D
Idk if any one has seen but apparently there was a pearl blue (at least it looks like) kira80 proto at the nor cal meetup https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9vykbj/norcal_rmk_meetup_2018/?st=JOC86GQK&sh=2f6aed6a
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Oh ****! That's actually nice! I'm maybe starting to feel okay that I never heard back from zfrontier about possibly changing colors, hahaha. I'll be happy with that. I notice that one has a silver weight insert - do we have any info on weight finishings yet?
Thanks for the pic, dude!
i dunno why but ever since i have participated in this group buy, they have never updated any information regarding it.. like even if I send them emails, they would answer like 1 out of 10. please can i have any kinda updates for instance anodizeing, samples, etc. all i saw was the photo of the pearl blue from nor cal meet up... and we have only like couple of weeks left until the supposed shipping date
https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates
last update was on the oct 23 post. check there for updates.
https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates
last update was on the oct 23 post. check there for updates.
Ha, so we're still just waiting on Eve for an update?
i dunno why but ever since i have participated in this group buy, they have never updated any information regarding it.. like even if I send them emails, they would answer like 1 out of 10. please can i have any kinda updates for instance anodizeing, samples, etc. all i saw was the photo of the pearl blue from nor cal meet up... and we have only like couple of weeks left until the supposed shipping date
TBH thats how it goes with KIRA buys, very little info until you have it in your hands, at least from what i have seen from the other kira buys. Just sit tight and wait, you know hat you signed up for lol you'll get i in time, hasn't even been that long really.
I thought the whole point of the updated buy format was that the cases were already made and ready to be shipped out quickly..
I thought the whole point of the updated buy format was that the cases were already made and ready to be shipped out quickly..
Did you get the colors that ran in the Chinese GB and choose the WKL option? I thought the fast shipment was for only the WKL in limited colors. Some updates about either would be a good thing !
I thought the whole point of the updated buy format was that the cases were already made and ready to be shipped out quickly..
Did you get the colors that ran in the Chinese GB and choose the WKL option? I thought the fast shipment was for only the WKL in limited colors. Some updates about either would be a good thing !
i got the one that is WKL with red anodizing. cuz i heard that is one of the fastest shipping color option. they are not updating a single thing regarding them. since there are silver and brass color for the weight options, and there was no option for choosing that, that i dont even know which weight i will be getting.
Think the confusion here is the bottom and back weight. Bottom weight is brass on all boards. Chinese buy got a BACK weight, there was only 1 picture of it in this thread somewhere.
That was my impression as well.Think the confusion here is the bottom and back weight. Bottom weight is brass on all boards. Chinese buy got a BACK weight, there was only 1 picture of it in this thread somewhere.
Aren't we getting a KIRA bottom brass weight + back weight with the personalized number as priority buyers? Was under the impression, but could be totally wrong about that :)
I never found the option to buy the numpad on the English zFrontier site. Not sure if I missed it or it never was available. Glad I'm in for the TKL though. Looks amazing!
Since I am also a buyer of both the tkl + pad, I went to ask Eve directly instead of zFrontier for an update (zF ignored me, not sure why? lol).Show Image(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/520591515396079616/unknown.png?width=1157&height=1299)
Cases have milled and anodized. Currently just waiting for PCB, with targeted ship date before Christmas.Show Image(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/454659720385527808/520543549444456479/1487bea10e829e02.jpg)
I am not sure of any other details.
damn and still no num pad for us, what luck.
damn and still no num pad for us, what luck.
lol not just the numpads tho.... i still have no idea which of the weight color i will be getting....
i was hoping for the color swap from premium red to pearl blue.. .but they would never answer me
Yeah i don't understand what is confusing you guys about the weights, there gonna be brass the aluminum was for proto purposes. i just don't get why they'd run the num pad separate for US buyers when were the ones that will get hit with double shipping and crap not the people that bought in on the china buy cause that is where eve is located lol plus would it not be easier to get all the orders both us and china and do them all at once so you know you don't have to tool up and make stuff again? idk just weird. it just does not make sense but whatever this whole buy has been annoying tbh. ill be happy when my two boards are here and i don't have to check this thread any more.
Yeah i don't understand what is confusing you guys about the weights, there gonna be brass the aluminum was for proto purposes. i just don't get why they'd run the num pad separate for US buyers when were the ones that will get hit with double shipping and crap not the people that bought in on the china buy cause that is where eve is located lol plus would it not be easier to get all the orders both us and china and do them all at once so you know you don't have to tool up and make stuff again? idk just weird. it just does not make sense but whatever this whole buy has been annoying tbh. ill be happy when my two boards are here and i don't have to check this thread any more.
Yeah i don't understand what is confusing you guys about the weights, there gonna be brass the aluminum was for proto purposes. i just don't get why they'd run the num pad separate for US buyers when were the ones that will get hit with double shipping and crap not the people that bought in on the china buy cause that is where eve is located lol plus would it not be easier to get all the orders both us and china and do them all at once so you know you don't have to tool up and make stuff again? idk just weird. it just does not make sense but whatever this whole buy has been annoying tbh. ill be happy when my two boards are here and i don't have to check this thread any more.
yup exactly. but they weren't clear with the weight option tho. this gb is honestly very messy now that they had separated the chinese gb with the international ones. they didn't even open the numpad section for us. and the main problem is that they wouldn't update a single thing regarding the board. i am thankful to see one of the gb participant posting up a new update he got from EVE but at the same time upset that i heard those news not from the kira or zf but from merely participant. really can't do anyting til they ship us the board since they wouldn't answer any questions.
Yeah i don't understand what is confusing you guys about the weights, there gonna be brass the aluminum was for proto purposes. i just don't get why they'd run the num pad separate for US buyers when were the ones that will get hit with double shipping and crap not the people that bought in on the china buy cause that is where eve is located lol plus would it not be easier to get all the orders both us and china and do them all at once so you know you don't have to tool up and make stuff again? idk just weird. it just does not make sense but whatever this whole buy has been annoying tbh. ill be happy when my two boards are here and i don't have to check this thread any more.
yup exactly. but they weren't clear with the weight option tho. this gb is honestly very messy now that they had separated the chinese gb with the international ones. they didn't even open the numpad section for us. and the main problem is that they wouldn't update a single thing regarding the board. i am thankful to see one of the gb participant posting up a new update he got from EVE but at the same time upset that i heard those news not from the kira or zf but from merely participant. really can't do anyting til they ship us the board since they wouldn't answer any questions.
I agree, very frustrating for sure, im lucky to have a line directly to one of the gb runners so i'm half ass up to date but yeah irritating. The whole splitting things up i think was supposed to ease there production time? when in reality it helps nothing but make this even more of a mess/costly/time consuming. When ZF was in as a vendor i knew it was gonna get weird.
just the participants talking with each other when in reality the admins or gb organizer is not commenting or replying to any of our threads
Since I am also a buyer of both the tkl + pad, I went to ask Eve directly instead of zFrontier for an update (zF ignored me, not sure why? lol).Show Image(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/520591515396079616/unknown.png?width=1157&height=1299)
Cases have milled and anodized. Currently just waiting for PCB, with targeted ship date before Christmas.Show Image(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/454659720385527808/520543549444456479/1487bea10e829e02.jpg)
I am not sure of any other details.
Yes, just messaged EVE on QQ and he said will try to ship them out before Christmas for the international groupbuy.
Yes, just messaged EVE on QQ and he said will try to ship them out before Christmas for the international groupbuy.
All colors? I didn’t see black or purple on those pics
Yes, just messaged EVE on QQ and he said will try to ship them out before Christmas for the international groupbuy.
All colors? I didn’t see black or purple on those pics
Also notice that all of the boards in the photo are WKL, so maybe it's an older photo from the chinese buy? I'm sure I'm not the only one that picked WK :)
So now i have seen a custom K80 on reddit in a color we were told we would have to wait longer for. WTF is even going on anymore with this buy? gonna go ahead and start botherig ZF, eve and camper.
So now i have seen a custom K80 on reddit in a color we were told we would have to wait longer for. WTF is even going on anymore with this buy? gonna go ahead and start botherig ZF, eve and camper.
basically, when a foreign runner runs a GB with EVE, they sign off the rights for EVE to run a chinese GB, so that's why this happens sometimes
this is not the first or only time this has happened
Most likely a proto unit on reddit. And username checks out to be someone from PH, same as thesiscamper. Most of his reddit photos were variation of kiras too.
Would sincerely need an update by thesiscamper and zf on the buy progress since they aee the author and proxy for this.
Rather than speculation and waiting for an official reply I went to ask zf on discord.Show Image(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/312287977151660042/522768317795270656/unknown.png)
I need a matching numpad. I'm hoping I get a shot at one...
Kind of a stupid question, but does zFrontier have a discord server?
so.... i thought everything should be ready before christmas, and what now? new year? I think this is the most-rude GB i've ever participated in, if it had delayed for others, they would at least post infos regarding that :mad:
welp google captcha fked me on the Jane. :( :(
Back to Kira then.
Eve has a history of delays (meteor is currently behind schedule), Kira has an estimated ship target of December. How likely are we going to receive Kira before CNY late Jan 2019.
Doesn't eve ship directly to buyers?
Doesn't eve ship directly to buyers?
Doesn't eve ship directly to buyers?
Went to ask ZF again.Show Image(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/471313838323531778/527866859773624320/unknown.png?width=600&height=164)
Even though I am quite sure shall reiceive my Kira, Meteor and GMK Phantom eventually, still not happy with the way zFrontier handling customers with near zero updates.
Shoud really think twice joining their next GB unless it is ready stock.
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I'm trying to reach out to zFrontier, will let you guys know once I have an update.
chillax. There’s been delays, just like almost every other gb we’ve ever had. Patience is necessary in this hobby.
I know delays are super annoying, but personally, I feel like I've waited longer to get in on this buy than it's been running, so I'm don't mind waiting. It also helps that this GB is run by respectable names in the community, so I'm not worried I'm being scammed or whatever. And I've also had some practice with the m65a last year :blank:
I know delays are super annoying, but personally, I feel like I've waited longer to get in on this buy than it's been running, so I'm don't mind waiting. It also helps that this GB is run by respectable names in the community, so I'm not worried I'm being scammed or whatever. And I've also had some practice with the m65a last year :blank:
the problem is not that we are afraid if we are gonna get scammed, but rather mad at how they are handling communication or updates. their initial shipping date was during around middle of december but til now, they had never updated or communicated officially.
perhaps their next reply would be that the Chinese New Year holidays are coming and that's causing another delay. bummer.
the problem is not that we are afraid if we are gonna get scammed, but rather mad at how they are handling communication or updates. their initial shipping date was during around middle of december but til now, they had never updated or communicated officially.
Hi guys, sorry for the delayed update, Alex told me he just got back from a business trip. Latest news is EVE is doing final QC before shipping, this was last week. Alex messaged him again this morning for another update and he's still waiting for a reply. He will ask for some photos when EVE gets back to him so hopefully EVE can respond quickly and provide photos next.
We're waiting for news ourselves and info will be shared when we get them.Hi guys, sorry for the delayed update, Alex told me he just got back from a business trip. Latest news is EVE is doing final QC before shipping, this was last week. Alex messaged him again this morning for another update and he's still waiting for a reply. He will ask for some photos when EVE gets back to him so hopefully EVE can respond quickly and provide photos next.
im not interested in the photos since i've seen them enough through zfrontier and alex, what I need is estimated shipping date...
EVE has started shipping the TKL kits to zFrontier, Alex said they want to ship these to participants before CNY.
EVE has started shipping the TKL kits to zFrontier, Alex said they want to ship these to participants before CNY.
Wondering if the boards being shipped are all of them or just the WKL specific colours that were mentioned?Seeing as there was talk about manufacturing, I sincerely hope it's all models (especially because I ordered a WK one :p )
EVE has started shipping the TKL kits to zFrontier, Alex said they want to ship these to participants before CNY.
EVE has started shipping the TKL kits to zFrontier, Alex said they want to ship these to participants before CNY.
You are aware that Chinese New Year is from Feb 5th right? a lot of people are going to try order things from china before that, have a feeling that you can't ship em before since i heard from couple of my friends who had participated in different group buys on zfrontier which were held before kira tkl GB and they still haven't received it yet.... like c'mon, if you can't even handle single groupbuy properly, it's not smart to just keep adding new groupbuys followed by groupbuys.... feel like zfontier is very overloaded recently
EVE has started shipping the TKL kits to zFrontier, Alex said they want to ship these to participants before CNY.
You are aware that Chinese New Year is from Feb 5th right? a lot of people are going to try order things from china before that, have a feeling that you can't ship em before since i heard from couple of my friends who had participated in different group buys on zfrontier which were held before kira tkl GB and they still haven't received it yet.... like c'mon, if you can't even handle single groupbuy properly, it's not smart to just keep adding new groupbuys followed by groupbuys.... feel like zfontier is very overloaded recently
1) If EVE didnt start shipping the boards to zfrontier until this week, how is that zfrontier's fault?
2) Just because a GB that happened before Kira has been delayed, doesnt mean Kira will be. Different GBs have different manufacturers and lead times, ect.
3) Thesis isnt running this GB, he's just the designer and he's doing everything he can to keep us informed. Give him a break.
We'll get the boards when we get them. This isnt the first time in history of GBs that the expected shipping date wasn't met.
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Update: zFrontier received the KIRA80 shipment yesterday, but didn't expect the amount of work needed to ship the orders out to all participants until they opened up the boxes. Basically they need to pack the kit, PCBs, screws, etc into the bag for each individual order. They will try to ship everything they can before their CNY break, but it is unlikely they can send all the orders out.
There are also issues with colors and they have to see what EVE has to say about it before we share more information.
Update: zFrontier received the KIRA80 shipment yesterday, but didn't expect the amount of work needed to ship the orders out to all participants until they opened up the boxes. Basically they need to pack the kit, PCBs, screws, etc into the bag for each individual order. They will try to ship everything they can before their CNY break, but it is unlikely they can send all the orders out.
There are also issues with colors and they have to see what EVE has to say about it before we share more information.
Update: zFrontier received the KIRA80 shipment yesterday, but didn't expect the amount of work needed to ship the orders out to all participants until they opened up the boxes. Basically they need to pack the kit, PCBs, screws, etc into the bag for each individual order. They will try to ship everything they can before their CNY break, but it is unlikely they can send all the orders out.
There are also issues with colors and they have to see what EVE has to say about it before we share more information.
Update: zFrontier received the KIRA80 shipment yesterday, but didn't expect the amount of work needed to ship the orders out to all participants until they opened up the boxes. Basically they need to pack the kit, PCBs, screws, etc into the bag for each individual order. They will try to ship everything they can before their CNY break, but it is unlikely they can send all the orders out.
There are also issues with colors and they have to see what EVE has to say about it before we share more information.
Bummer, I got pearl blue...
Some blue kits are different from the prototype colors, I believe they will be checking everything first before giving a full update on the colors. Please understand that it takes time to check dozens of kits and they cannot just open everything in one go because of space limitations.
We truly apologize for the delays, we want the kits shipped out as much as you guys. I'll give an update again once I get new information.
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.
As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.
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Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.
As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.
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Any word on the Poseidon Blue? Same problems?
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.
As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.
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Any word on the Poseidon Blue? Same problems?
Alex said they're not good, but I didn't get photos for comparison. He also said Pearl Blue WKL kits are fine probably because they were made earlier.
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.
As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.
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Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.
As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.
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He also said Pearl Blue WKL kits are fine probably because they were made earlier.
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.
As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.
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Holy crap that's pretty terrible...
Yeah that WKL looks pretty far off from what was promised. In fact, the color looks similar to this photo that Alex shared last year, and which he advised was not representative of the final product.Show Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=96381.0;attach=204579;image)
Why would Eve even ship that? I suppose it also means that any pearl blue Kira S, if it ever gets made, won’t colormatch the pearl blue Kira 80.
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.
As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.
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Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.
As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.
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thanks for the update! so how long should we wait longer now that none of them has been shipped?
KIRA TKL!!!!
i got it~~!!
and I participated through China. So there is a backplate.
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yes poseidon blue. nice choiceKIRA TKL!!!!
i got it~~!!
and I participated through China. So there is a backplate.
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Poseidon Blue?
Damn can't wait for mine
Very nice! How heavy is it? (With and without backplate)
KIRA TKL!!!!
i got it~~!!
and I participated through China. So there is a backplate.
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KIRA TKL!!!!
i got it~~!!
and I participated through China. So there is a backplate.
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When does CNY celebrations end? Are they going to be shipping immediately after?
more photo by my friend
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now that makes me wanna keep the kira for long... but just one question, does all the color come with that raw-aluminum look-alike backplate? honestly tho it would have looked way better if that thing was brass/gold instead of silver.... i ordered a premium red so the silver is not gonna match with it either ugh.....
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.
As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.
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Any word on the Poseidon Blue? Same problems?
Alex said they're not good, but I didn't get photos for comparison. He also said Pearl Blue WKL kits are fine probably because they were made earlier.
Update: Unfortunately I don't think zF was able to ship any kits, the only thing Alex said was that the violet, red, gray and black kits should be ready for shipping.
As for the color issues, it's mostly the blue kits and I've attached a couple of photos of the two Pearl Blue kits with different shades. EVE said the original guy who mixed the dyes was laid off and that the dyeing pool was also renewed. I'll be waiting for zFrontier's reply on what they plan to do with these kits. The caps on the kits in the photos are from SA by the Sea.
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Any word on the Poseidon Blue? Same problems?
Alex said they're not good, but I didn't get photos for comparison. He also said Pearl Blue WKL kits are fine probably because they were made earlier.
Dang, I'm in for a poseidon blue one... Anything more known? What are the next steps? Do some boards need to go back for anodising?
He also said Pearl Blue WKL kits are fine probably because they were made earlier.
He also said Pearl Blue WKL kits are fine probably because they were made earlier.
How can the pearl blue WKL's be fine if the photos of the two different colors are both WKL? I must be missing something
Also as an aside literally every single time I read this thread title I think the GB got cancelled again for a split second...
Looks like people from China have received their orders before CNY, incl. KIRA SShow Image(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190217/lrABv-a-VI4xoCieJr-3QhLujIAy?imageMogr2/strip&imageslim)
http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/12369
Looks like people from China have received their orders before CNY, incl. KIRA SShow Image(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190217/lrABv-a-VI4xoCieJr-3QhLujIAy?imageMogr2/strip&imageslim)
http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/12369
Looks like people from China have received their orders before CNY, incl. KIRA SShow Image(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190217/lrABv-a-VI4xoCieJr-3QhLujIAy?imageMogr2/strip&imageslim)
http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/12369
Looks like people from China have received their orders before CNY, incl. KIRA SShow Image(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20190217/lrABv-a-VI4xoCieJr-3QhLujIAy?imageMogr2/strip&imageslim)
http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/12369
Interesting. Well, on one hand it's somewhat understandable, with it being domestic and all, but at the same time it feels a bit unfair that there are a bunch of people who have already received theirs while we don't even get an official update...
FYI: Alex hasn't gotten back to me, still waiting for an update.
FYI: Alex hasn't gotten back to me, still waiting for an update.
They are really irresponsible people.
If they have difficulties to answer, they just ignore the mail.
I sended email which want to get information of kira tkl over ten times for three month.
so? I can't get anything. Except Just auto reply. It is really funny.
It is comedy that I join another zf GB already. :p
I sent them an email in January and then patiently waited because of Chinese New year and I still have not heard from them.
At this time, I am thinking of engaging my Credit Card company and get my money back.
I guess kira is arriving for participants of chinese proxy, as i see more and more post regarding kira tkl on zfrontier. I don't know how to attach photos on geekhack so I am linking it: https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/12522
but woah.... the color is way off from what we saw from GB page, it's like a gmk necro now :-X
Picked the blue because I thought the weight will be silver...guess I didn’t have luck with the colors in this GB.
But we will see how it turns out in the end, hopefully it will look nice and will grow on me :)
Ok its March, no more CNY excuses. Hard to believe it was originally scheduled for November 2018...
Ok its March, no more CNY excuses. Hard to believe it was originally scheduled for November 2018...
Ok its March, no more CNY excuses. Hard to believe it was originally scheduled for November 2018...
Most studios delay, so it is not uncommon to say the very least. Part of the motivation for me to work with AirPotter from Gray Studio with my own project is that he pushes hard and rarely delays.
Ok its March, no more CNY excuses. Hard to believe it was originally scheduled for November 2018...
Most studios delay, so it is not uncommon to say the very least. Part of the motivation for me to work with AirPotter from Gray Studio with my own project is that he pushes hard and rarely delays.
Yeah, it's not my first group buy so I understand it's not uncommon. Even so, I refuse to just accept it as it is every time that it happens. Until the day that a group buy puts in a disclaimer saying that they will delay, give 0 communication and sometimes outright lie, I will continue to join for the boards I want and I'm going to continue to post complaints/requests for updates. The fact that this is even supposedly the unspoken standard is not a good enough excuse imo.
Ok its March, no more CNY excuses. Hard to believe it was originally scheduled for November 2018...
Most studios delay, so it is not uncommon to say the very least. Part of the motivation for me to work with AirPotter from Gray Studio with my own project is that he pushes hard and rarely delays.
Yeah, it's not my first group buy so I understand it's not uncommon. Even so, I refuse to just accept it as it is every time that it happens. Until the day that a group buy puts in a disclaimer saying that they will delay, give 0 communication and sometimes outright lie, I will continue to join for the boards I want and I'm going to continue to post complaints/requests for updates. The fact that this is even supposedly the unspoken standard is not a good enough excuse imo.
Alex did get back to me last Friday mentioning problems with the kits, like machining mistakes. I asked for more details and maybe photos to show the mistakes, but I haven't heard back from him again. So yeah, more delays and I apologize for this. I'm waiting for more details to share.
With PayPal buyer protection running out in a month for me, I think I’ll be doing the smart thing and requesting a refund. Just can’t take the risk with so many mishaps and lack of any commitments or timelines.
I’d maybe wait if we were all getting back weights, but this is too much trouble for a pared-down product/design
Sorry thesiscamper!
With PayPal buyer protection running out in a month for me, I think I’ll be doing the smart thing and requesting a refund. Just can’t take the risk with so many mishaps and lack of any commitments or timelines.
I’d maybe wait if we were all getting back weights, but this is too much trouble for a pared-down product/design
Sorry thesiscamper!
Ok its March, no more CNY excuses. Hard to believe it was originally scheduled for November 2018...
Most studios delay, so it is not uncommon to say the very least. Part of the motivation for me to work with AirPotter from Gray Studio with my own project is that he pushes hard and rarely delays.
Yeah, it's not my first group buy so I understand it's not uncommon. Even so, I refuse to just accept it as it is every time that it happens. Until the day that a group buy puts in a disclaimer saying that they will delay, give 0 communication and sometimes outright lie, I will continue to join for the boards I want and I'm going to continue to post complaints/requests for updates. The fact that this is even supposedly the unspoken standard is not a good enough excuse imo.
I'm in on the Southpaw65 GB. I joined that back in november 2017 and it still has not shipped yet. The difference is that there's communication there from the runner. zFrontier is not doing a good job here at all. But I did find this:
https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-mar-2-2019 (https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-mar-2-2019)
"Several problems detected. Colors weren't accurate, some plates have wrong cutouts and missing some plates. We are packing them and shipping them back to EVE to fix the problems."Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1674/0405/files/WeChat_Image_20190301200431_grande.jpg?v=1551441932)
With PayPal buyer protection running out in a month for me, I think I’ll be doing the smart thing and requesting a refund. Just can’t take the risk with so many mishaps and lack of any commitments or timelines.
I’d maybe wait if we were all getting back weights, but this is too much trouble for a pared-down product/design
Sorry thesiscamper!
I've joined XDA Oblique and Kira via Zf. Both of them delayed and lacked information. Hmmm
I've joined XDA Oblique and Kira via Zf. Both of them delayed and lacked information. Hmmm
I have heard (from a trusted chinese friend who is deep in the keeb circle) zfrontier made late payments to manufacturers, partly why these are delayed.
I cannot be sure of that as this is not my first hand information, but i really hope this situation is sorted out soon. I have bought quite a lot of products from zfrontier, and no issues so far.
My suggestion is to not dispute through paypal, this might create negative impact on their paypal account, and affect more people.
Actually I know the CEO of ZF, if you guys really want to organize some sort of survey and want someone to pass the information, I can be the messenger.
I've joined XDA Oblique and Kira via Zf. Both of them delayed and lacked information. Hmmm
I have heard (from a trusted chinese friend who is deep in the keeb circle) zfrontier made late payments to manufacturers, partly why these are delayed.
I cannot be sure of that as this is not my first hand information, but i really hope this situation is sorted out soon. I have bought quite a lot of products from zfrontier, and no issues so far.
My suggestion is to not dispute through paypal, this might create negative impact on their paypal account, and affect more people.
Actually I know the CEO of ZF, if you guys really want to organize some sort of survey and want someone to pass the information, I can be the messenger.
So basically they shouldn't open paypal disputes and be locked into an uncertain GB because zFrontier made irresponsible decisions with zero communication on a product that we were owed information, if not the full product, months ago? That's a pretty terrible suggestion. I think anyone who wants to bail at this point should and those who stick in it, should still be owed what they paid for in good fashion. It's not like they were legitimately incapable. For some reason, the Chinese GB got priority over original backers and a lot of people already have their fully functional units. So why is it that only the international ones are having issues?
Also, having a survey passed on to the CEO would be very nice and I do appreciate you offering that. However, it's still a poor substitute for an actual company member addressing us directly and truthfully.
So according to the latest update on zF there are even more problems with the board.
Multiple plates with wrong cutouts or completely missing plates.
They said that they are now sending the problematic boards back to EVE for fixing...
So according to the latest update on zF there are even more problems with the board.
Multiple plates with wrong cutouts or completely missing plates.
They said that they are now sending the problematic boards back to EVE for fixing...
Perhaps EVE is taking too many new things these days (or could be authors' oversight). EVE is typically very high quality. Heard the Percent Canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing.
So according to the latest update on zF there are even more problems with the board.
Multiple plates with wrong cutouts or completely missing plates.
They said that they are now sending the problematic boards back to EVE for fixing...
Perhaps EVE is taking too many new things these days (or could be authors' oversight). EVE is typically very high quality. Heard the Percent Canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing.
even the "percent canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing" kinda statement makes me mad at this point LMAO. They can't even handle their previous keyboard properly and it is troubling a lot and what made them think they can handle another board? I'm just hoping they won't use and give priority working on percent studio's boards first and the kira would be delayed due to that ****ty reason. Actually, instead of surveys, could you tell the CEO of zf that I need refund for this GB since i haven't participated with paypal, but instead, a debit card, and I want refund due to zf's ****ty attitude. Both EVE and ZF is irresponsible and stupid honestly, they can't handle a single gb and how come they planning to organize that huge amount of them and still want to get more?
I've joined XDA Oblique and Kira via Zf. Both of them delayed and lacked information. Hmmm
I have heard (from a trusted chinese friend who is deep in the keeb circle) zfrontier made late payments to manufacturers, partly why these are delayed.
I cannot be sure of that as this is not my first hand information, but i really hope this situation is sorted out soon. I have bought quite a lot of products from zfrontier, and no issues so far.
My suggestion is to not dispute through paypal, this might create negative impact on their paypal account, and affect more people.
Actually I know the CEO of ZF, if you guys really want to organize some sort of survey and want someone to pass the information, I can be the messenger.
Well, another story:
https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/ (https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/)
Well, another story:
https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/ (https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/)
just as i thought.... I have been hearing issues with how zfrontier handles their GB, for instance my friends who have participated in one of the keycap or keyboard group buy from zfrontier are also complaining their project has been delayed....
I really feel like we need to work together to wake them up. Maybe they think it's a keyboard business and they are going easy on the schedule and handling...
Well, another story:
https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/ (https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/)
just as i thought.... I have been hearing issues with how zfrontier handles their GB, for instance my friends who have participated in one of the keycap or keyboard group buy from zfrontier are also complaining their project has been delayed....
I really feel like we need to work together to wake them up. Maybe they think it's a keyboard business and they are going easy on the schedule and handling...
But this falls pretty hard on EVE also. Do they have no quality control? Colors not matching, messed up plates and still just shipping it out. How do you ship out 2 (or more?) different shades of Pearl Blue for example, without noticing?
Edit: This may be a shortsighted reply. We don't know what happens behind the scenes and what problems arise. But that's what happens when there's no feedback whatsoever. Frustration. No idea if the latest project update on their page is current or old news either.
Well, another story:
https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/ (https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/axru1y/officially_been_30_days_since_my_zfrontier_order/)
just as i thought.... I have been hearing issues with how zfrontier handles their GB, for instance my friends who have participated in one of the keycap or keyboard group buy from zfrontier are also complaining their project has been delayed....
I really feel like we need to work together to wake them up. Maybe they think it's a keyboard business and they are going easy on the schedule and handling...
So according to the latest update on zF there are even more problems with the board.
Multiple plates with wrong cutouts or completely missing plates.
They said that they are now sending the problematic boards back to EVE for fixing...
Perhaps EVE is taking too many new things these days (or could be authors' oversight). EVE is typically very high quality. Heard the Percent Canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing.
even the "percent canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing" kinda statement makes me mad at this point LMAO. They can't even handle their previous keyboard properly and it is troubling a lot and what made them think they can handle another board? I'm just hoping they won't use and give priority working on percent studio's boards first and the kira would be delayed due to that ****ty reason. Actually, instead of surveys, could you tell the CEO of zf that I need refund for this GB since i haven't participated with paypal, but instead, a debit card, and I want refund due to zf's ****ty attitude. Both EVE and ZF is irresponsible and stupid honestly, they can't handle a single gb and how come they planning to organize that huge amount of them and still want to get more?
So according to the latest update on zF there are even more problems with the board.
Multiple plates with wrong cutouts or completely missing plates.
They said that they are now sending the problematic boards back to EVE for fixing...
Perhaps EVE is taking too many new things these days (or could be authors' oversight). EVE is typically very high quality. Heard the Percent Canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing.
even the "percent canoe has now moved to EVE for manufacturing" kinda statement makes me mad at this point LMAO. They can't even handle their previous keyboard properly and it is troubling a lot and what made them think they can handle another board? I'm just hoping they won't use and give priority working on percent studio's boards first and the kira would be delayed due to that ****ty reason. Actually, instead of surveys, could you tell the CEO of zf that I need refund for this GB since i haven't participated with paypal, but instead, a debit card, and I want refund due to zf's ****ty attitude. Both EVE and ZF is irresponsible and stupid honestly, they can't handle a single gb and how come they planning to organize that huge amount of them and still want to get more?
For what it's worth, I talked to Percent Boss, and he indicated to me that the recent Canoe sale production will not be affected and likely will ship on schedule (with possibility of a slight delay).
I don't actually know why Kira has so many issues, whose responsibility it is (it could either by EVE's, ZF's, or the designer's, we don't know), but I haven't really heard a lot about these problems from the China side, and the board wasn't as popular as on GH either.
I think if PayPal protection is going to expire, whoever took your money, is the one you should contact and deal with now. So probably ZF.
I would also prefer to not be refunded again and have the board. The only thing I can think zF can do is communicate more and re send the invoices so the PP period extends. Highly doubt they would be interested in doing that.
I hesitate posting here to say I have no real updates but we're in this mess because of lack of communication. Still no news, I've been asking other people to help me ping zF, I've left messages telling them about your frustration, and I hope they get back to me about the buy.
Tell me if I should post here to tell you about lack of updates, or to just post when there's actual news.
I hesitate posting here to say I have no real updates but we're in this mess because of lack of communication. Still no news, I've been asking other people to help me ping zF, I've left messages telling them about your frustration, and I hope they get back to me about the buy.
Tell me if I should post here to tell you about lack of updates, or to just post when there's actual news.
I hesitate posting here to say I have no real updates but we're in this mess because of lack of communication. Still no news, I've been asking other people to help me ping zF, I've left messages telling them about your frustration, and I hope they get back to me about the buy.
Tell me if I should post here to tell you about lack of updates, or to just post when there's actual news.
I hesitate posting here to say I have no real updates but we're in this mess because of lack of communication. Still no news, I've been asking other people to help me ping zF, I've left messages telling them about your frustration, and I hope they get back to me about the buy.
Tell me if I should post here to tell you about lack of updates, or to just post when there's actual news.
Thank you for the patience guys. A vendor was able to talk to zF and was told that they (zF) will reply to people. Of course this doesn't mean much at the moment, but I do hope it will be soon.
I hesitate posting here to say I have no real updates but we're in this mess because of lack of communication. Still no news, I've been asking other people to help me ping zF, I've left messages telling them about your frustration, and I hope they get back to me about the buy.
Tell me if I should post here to tell you about lack of updates, or to just post when there's actual news.
Thanks a lot for the update! I for one am totally OK with the flipped logo on the plate, especially if it speeds up the whole process.+1
So are wrong anodisation of some boards and the logo on the plate the only issues?
I really don't care about the mistake, i want to received board right now also.
But who are in article is not only the people of all participants. If you willing to accept the mistake, should be done after survey or other reaction.
I hope to be settled this problem be fair way to all participants.
And I wonder why they didn't send it to 'thisiscamper' before change the plate design?
If they did, it won't be.
Numpad update from EVE:
Numpad production is finished, but he's waiting for zF for the order list. I'm not sure how he decided on the colors without the order list. I've attached a photo of some parts he shared.
Numpad update from EVE:
Numpad production is finished, but he's waiting for zF for the order list. I'm not sure how he decided on the colors without the order list. I've attached a photo of some parts he shared.
Logo is fine, Kilo sounds like a pretty good keyboard name :P
EVE said the numpads are for both international and China.
EVE said the numpads are for both international and China.
I’m a bit confused. We are getting the numpad with this group buy? I thought we were expecting that to happen at a later date in a different buy for the international folks.
EVE said the numpads are for both international and China.
I’m a bit confused. We are getting the numpad with this group buy? I thought we were expecting that to happen at a later date in a different buy for the international folks.
I didn't go as far as opening a paypal dispute but did open a paypal 'case' which actually took zf about 2 weeks to respond to - here is the reply
Hello there,
Sorry for the late reply, we are keeping eyes on your order. Please no worries it will be shipped within 7 business days.
- zFrontier Inc, Friday, March 15, 2019 at 1:10:07 AM
The problem I have is the 6 month window closes on March 20th after which there is no recourse.
I didn't go as far as opening a paypal dispute but did open a paypal 'case' which actually took zf about 2 weeks to respond to - here is the reply
Hello there,
Sorry for the late reply, we are keeping eyes on your order. Please no worries it will be shipped within 7 business days.
- zFrontier Inc, Friday, March 15, 2019 at 1:10:07 AM
The problem I have is the 6 month window closes on March 20th after which there is no recourse.
Is that kira tkl? Or another order?
I would have been looking into PayPal avenues of support but there are photos proving that they have the keyboards on hand, surely they can just... ship them?
Does anyone here have an insid track on what’s up with zfrontier lately ? The complete absence of communication? Are they doing okay in China ?
I’m starting to get a bit antsy . I really want the board and I have had good experiences with zfrontier so far ( grid600 is an exception, and while I don5 blame them, the communication is pathetic).
So as someone who’s never had to file a claim like this before, what happens ? Do you forfeit your order or can you still get zf to invoice you again if the board ever materializes ?
Hi guys, talking with Alex of zF now. He’ll be sending out shipping invoices this week. If you don’t want the flipped logo or want a refund this is the time to contact him. There are about 60 kits that are ready to be shipped.
For those who want to know what happened without going into details, he had to go on a business trip then got sick. They hired another guy to help with shipping.
Edit:
EVE also said they have communicated with zF now.
For those who want to know what happened without going into details, he had to go on a business trip then got sick. They hired another guy to help with shipping.
Hi guys, talking with Alex of zF now. He’ll be sending out shipping invoices this week. If you don’t want the flipped logo or want a refund this is the time to contact him. There are about 60 kits that are ready to be shipped.
For those who want to know what happened without going into details, he had to go on a business trip then got sick. They hired another guy to help with shipping.
Edit:
EVE also said they have communicated with zF now.
Shipping soon? Have all the colours been fixed or zF just go ahead?
i know some of you are dying to get your kira tkl soon.... but i totally disagree with just receiving the board without minding the flipped logo. it is clearly the manufacturer+designer+EVE's fault for making the problem and I don't want to spend the exact same price of kira tkl which has an issue with the plate. the flipped logo is not professional at all.. so is Alex available for contact now? i want to contact him for refund.
i know some of you are dying to get your kira tkl soon.... but i totally disagree with just receiving the board without minding the flipped logo. it is clearly the manufacturer+designer+EVE's fault for making the problem and I don't want to spend the exact same price of kira tkl which has an issue with the plate. the flipped logo is not professional at all.. so is Alex available for contact now? i want to contact him for refund.
If we are on this, then even bigger than the logo being flipped is that they added a logo at all. There are many many elements that were not part of the design from thesiscamper. The back plate ( and oh my god that font is so ugly ! I hope I can Dremel it ) was not part of it either, at least as it was announced in the IC.
Edit : I also have to say that all these changes were well meaning... like the machining time for the logo and the back plate ... zf/eve’s efforts were good, just poorly executed. ( omg that logo, I hope I can remove that, and there won5 be screwhols visible)
Now I consider boards like these artistic, if i just wanted a good tkl, I’d get kbd8x. So messing around with the design is poor form. I was actually excited about the backplate until I found that it had branded no and I saw the awful font. Kudos to thesiscamper for not making a row about this...
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.
Right. You don’t know the whole story though, and you might have done better but it is what it is. Hindsight is 20/20.
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.
Right. You don’t know the whole story though, and you might have done better but it is what it is. Hindsight is 20/20.
Definitely not your problem, as a designer your GBs are typically run by other professional runners.
I just couldn’t quite get the rationale why Chinese buyers should get priority and lower pricing, despite paying no PayPal fees and negligible shipping fees. Maybe I’m in the States for too long :)
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.
Right. You don’t know the whole story though, and you might have done better but it is what it is. Hindsight is 20/20.
Definitely not your problem, as a designer your GBs are typically run by other professional runners.
I just couldn’t quite get the rationale why Chinese buyers should get priority and lower pricing, despite paying no PayPal fees and negligible shipping fees. Maybe I’m in the States for too long :)
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.
yes sir mr i own 11 canoes
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.
yes sir mr i own 11 canoes
Didn’t you have ins with SuperVan as well?
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.
yes sir mr i own 11 canoes
Didn’t you have ins with SuperVan as well?
lmao **** no i think he has me blocked
Separating China buyers and GH buyers in terms of options and pricing is just such a bad idea, IMHO.
yes sir mr i own 11 canoes
Didn’t you have ins with SuperVan as well?
lmao **** no i think he has me blocked
That makes sense lol, but I was about speaking mr 11 canoes
I thought I read somewhere that Zf was shipping these out this week. Is that still the case?
He’ll be sending out shipping invoices this week.
What is a shipping invoice? Doesn't shipping cost get paid when the GB was purchased months ago?I thought I read somewhere that Zf was shipping these out this week. Is that still the case?He’ll be sending out shipping invoices this week.
Invoice this week. Unclear when shipping will be. Hopely real soon.
Dilemma is what to do with PayPal protection. I'm inclined to get the ball rolling on that. I appreciate more communication but it's little short of giving me enough confidence.
What is a shipping invoice? Doesn't shipping cost get paid when the GB was purchased months ago?
What is a shipping invoice? Doesn't shipping cost get paid when the GB was purchased months ago?
nope. shipping is never included in gb's since the runner can't know how much the shipping for every board will be.
zF's page says that very clearly on every gb page.
Has anyone actually heard from Alex? I emailed him using the email thesis provided but still haven't heard anything.
Has anyone actually heard from Alex? I emailed him using the email thesis provided but still haven't heard anything.
same =/ I reported a problem on paypal - which I thought actually opened up a case, but I guess "report a problem" only opens up a line of communication between myself and zfrontier through payapl. I can "escalate to paypal" through - which I will probably do if I don't hear from them in a couple of days.
Well, I paid it with my credit card. My only chance is hopeSame, didn’t even remember it until I checked my paypal history :/
Just wanted to say I hate this ****ing forum. It's so stupid can't organize by when a thread was started. To go through all the posts just to see that **** is over already is annoying as ****.
I proceeded to file a claim and woke up this morning to a refund from zF. I didn’t request a refund but just automatically got it. Looks I’ll never be joining a zF buy again. Kinda tragic because I wanted the board more than the refund
I haven’t received an update from zFrontier.
I haven’t received an update from zFrontier.
hey thesis, i know this gb has been tough slogging but i hope it doesn't discourage you from sharing more of your designs with the community. i was planning to be in the gb when beaming was running it but dropped out due to the unknown status of the numpad availability when it moved over to zF. i do think zF will do right by the people that joined the gb but i understand the consternation from the participants.
the kira80 and numpad are my favorite tkl and numpad choices since joining the hobby. i wished things had gone differently so that i could've joined and i do look forward to seeing your design thoughts in tkls in the future.
thanks for trying to manage the thoughts of the gb participants here when a lot of the gb is no longer in your control.
To those who are saying that zf has not replied to any of your emails, check your spam. Especially if you are using gmail.
I've sent 3 emails to zf in last couple months (ragarding other buys) and I got a reply within 24 hours everytime. Those replies did, however, all go to spam.
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thanks for trying to manage the thoughts of the gb participants here when a lot of the gb is no longer in your control.
To those who are saying that zf has not replied to any of your emails, check your spam. Especially if you are using gmail.
I've sent 3 emails to zf in last couple months (ragarding other buys) and I got a reply within 24 hours everytime. Those replies did, however, all go to spam.
Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
That's strange - because gmail (or other email services in general) does not mark a "reply" to an email originating from the inbox as spam. Gmail obviously respects the "In-Reply-To" and "References" fields on the message.
I proceeded to file a claim and woke up this morning to a refund from zF. I didn’t request a refund but just automatically got it. Looks I’ll never be joining a zF buy again. Kinda tragic because I wanted the board more than the refund
I proceeded to file a claim and woke up this morning to a refund from zF. I didn’t request a refund but just automatically got it. Looks I’ll never be joining a zF buy again. Kinda tragic because I wanted the board more than the refund
Filing a claim means getting your refund back. At this stage, you will not be contacted with seller anymore and PayPal will make the final decision after 10 days. If seller previously doesn't respond during the dispute and the claim, you will surely get refunded.
This is what I experinced in my case.
I’ve been skimming through a few KIRA posts from the CN groupbuy, and it doesn’t seem like defects or major flaws were detected.I proceeded to file a claim and woke up this morning to a refund from zF. I didn’t request a refund but just automatically got it. Looks I’ll never be joining a zF buy again. Kinda tragic because I wanted the board more than the refund
Filing a claim means getting your refund back. At this stage, you will not be contacted with seller anymore and PayPal will make the final decision after 10 days. If seller previously doesn't respond during the dispute and the claim, you will surely get refunded.
This is what I experinced in my case.
Happy to get refunded although there was a minor loss on currency exchange. Just don't want to take the risk to get a half-cooked keyboard at the end after all the money and time wasted.
I haven’t received an update from zFrontier.
hey thesis, i know this gb has been tough slogging but i hope it doesn't discourage you from sharing more of your designs with the community. i was planning to be in the gb when beaming was running it but dropped out due to the unknown status of the numpad availability when it moved over to zF. i do think zF will do right by the people that joined the gb but i understand the consternation from the participants.
the kira80 and numpad are my favorite tkl and numpad choices since joining the hobby. i wished things had gone differently so that i could've joined and i do look forward to seeing your design thoughts in tkls in the future.
thanks for trying to manage the thoughts of the gb participants here when a lot of the gb is no longer in your control.
Thank you for the kind words, and I do believe zF will still ship and honor refunds. I also understand anyone who wishes to withdraw from the buy, if I was in this situation I would've filed a claim weeks ago. Although my situation is still kind of different. I can have my keyboard ideas made as long as I have the cash, so I also understand those who want to wait just a little bit longer.
I’ve been skimming through a few KIRA posts from the CN groupbuy, and it doesn’t seem like defects or major flaws were detected.I proceeded to file a claim and woke up this morning to a refund from zF. I didn’t request a refund but just automatically got it. Looks I’ll never be joining a zF buy again. Kinda tragic because I wanted the board more than the refund
Filing a claim means getting your refund back. At this stage, you will not be contacted with seller anymore and PayPal will make the final decision after 10 days. If seller previously doesn't respond during the dispute and the claim, you will surely get refunded.
This is what I experinced in my case.
Happy to get refunded although there was a minor loss on currency exchange. Just don't want to take the risk to get a half-cooked keyboard at the end after all the money and time wasted.
So besides the faulty plate and awful communication, I wouldn’t expect the kit to have major issues.
The colour that I chose is Poseidon Blue and it didn't come out correctly. I considered this a major issue and do not want to wait for zF to sent back to Eve to do it again after so many months of waiting.
Happy to get refunded although there was a minor loss on currency exchange. Just don't want to take the risk to get a half-cooked keyboard at the end after all the money and time wasted.
Patience is a virtue. I feel bad for all these people who got refunds in the past week or so and couldn't wait another week. I can't wait to get my Kira I got my shipping invoice. Moon Grey Color FYI
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From my understanding the wait was to correct the color, but I agree if you are paying $400 you should get what you paid for especially when it's a keyboard. Lol I wasn't worried about the refund even though my PayPal "protection" was running out. Nothing moves quickly in GBs and especially in this community. I hope you find one later in the color u wanted since it sounds like you still want it.Patience is a virtue. I feel bad for all these people who got refunds in the past week or so and couldn't wait another week. I can't wait to get my Kira I got my shipping invoice. Moon Grey Color FYI
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Honestly I’m still glad I got my refund. I would have been upset if I got a shipping invoice with no info about what the defects were. If the board shows up with the wrong color, messed up plate, etc, I would be out 400 bucks with no recourse. (I got Poseidon blue). I’m bummed, I wanted the board, but I want it right or not at all. The lack of communication on the specifics of the issues means it’s more of a risk than I’m willing to take, personally.
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As far as defects go, zF never sent anything to purchasers personally about the defects other than what was listed on there updates page on their site. Nothing was mentioned in the shipping invoice either. I assume if you get it and don't like it or their are defects you still have the option to return it for a refund.
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Apologies for being terse, but zFrontier’s behavior should not be acceptable to anyone and bravo to each of you who demanded refunds and received them. ZFrontier’s collapsing ability to fulfill its current obligations, late payments to manufacturers who are growing impatient with them, and continuing to accept additional funds from new group buyers make me think that not quite everything is above board over there and perhaps they are becoming insolvent. I’ll never support them again.
Also, for all of you who are getting refunded now, that’s a no-brainer for ZFrontier who are happy to refund your order at this point that they’ve had the use of your interest-free loan for six months and can turn around and sell the keyboard you commissioned for a premium over what you would have paid. That’s about as slimy as they get.
Apologies for being terse, but zFrontier’s behavior should not be acceptable to anyone and bravo to each of you who demanded refunds and received them. ZFrontier’s collapsing ability to fulfill its current obligations, late payments to manufacturers who are growing impatient with them, and continuing to accept additional funds from new group buyers make me think that not quite everything is above board over there and perhaps they are becoming insolvent. I’ll never support them again.
Also, for all of you who are getting refunded now, that’s a no-brainer for ZFrontier who are happy to refund your order at this point that they’ve had the use of your interest-free loan for six months and can turn around and sell the keyboard you commissioned for a premium over what you would have paid. That’s about as slimy as they get.
I agree with hotroder 100%. To say it's an interest free loan... Duh, isn't every GB? Lol zF could have done a better job of communicating no doubt but seems like he was sick or had something going on and did communicate that at some point but was buried. I am glad to see things are moving again.Apologies for being terse, but zFrontier’s behavior should not be acceptable to anyone and bravo to each of you who demanded refunds and received them. ZFrontier’s collapsing ability to fulfill its current obligations, late payments to manufacturers who are growing impatient with them, and continuing to accept additional funds from new group buyers make me think that not quite everything is above board over there and perhaps they are becoming insolvent. I’ll never support them again.
Also, for all of you who are getting refunded now, that’s a no-brainer for ZFrontier who are happy to refund your order at this point that they’ve had the use of your interest-free loan for six months and can turn around and sell the keyboard you commissioned for a premium over what you would have paid. That’s about as slimy as they get.
I think thats a little unfairly harsh and assumes they were out to scam the community from the get go. I get it your a bit upset over how things have ended up and no one can blame you. At this point thought they are doing the right thing which is more then a lot of GB runners have done. I am looking at 21 as a great example and Dolphin groupbuy. Those people lost a lot and there seems to be no recourse there just SOL. Those I would contribute more to scamming then ZF's. Given what ZF has done is not excusable and can't go on. I Just think they simply wanted to do more seen a chance to grow inside the community and completely got in over there heads. At this point I bet they are just taking on new buys to keep up with the old buys. Then hoping once things settle down they can make back what they ended up losing due to refunds on selling non sold board's. I might be wrong but don't think there was ill intent and they are trying to make right with refunding.
Apologies for being terse, but zFrontier’s behavior should not be acceptable to anyone and bravo to each of you who demanded refunds and received them. ZFrontier’s collapsing ability to fulfill its current obligations, late payments to manufacturers who are growing impatient with them, and continuing to accept additional funds from new group buyers make me think that not quite everything is above board over there and perhaps they are becoming insolvent. I’ll never support them again.
Also, for all of you who are getting refunded now, that’s a no-brainer for ZFrontier who are happy to refund your order at this point that they’ve had the use of your interest-free loan for six months and can turn around and sell the keyboard you commissioned for a premium over what you would have paid. That’s about as slimy as they get.
I think thats a little unfairly harsh and assumes they were out to scam the community from the get go. I get it your a bit upset over how things have ended up and no one can blame you. At this point thought they are doing the right thing which is more then a lot of GB runners have done. I am looking at 21 as a great example and Dolphin groupbuy. Those people lost a lot and there seems to be no recourse there just SOL. Those I would contribute more to scamming then ZF's. Given what ZF has done is not excusable and can't go on. I Just think they simply wanted to do more seen a chance to grow inside the community and completely got in over there heads. At this point I bet they are just taking on new buys to keep up with the old buys. Then hoping once things settle down they can make back what they ended up losing due to refunds on selling non sold board's. I might be wrong but don't think there was ill intent and they are trying to make right with refunding.
Patience is a virtue. I feel bad for all these people who got refunds in the past week or so and couldn't wait another week. I can't wait to get my Kira I got my shipping invoice. Moon Grey Color FYI
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Honestly I’m still glad I got my refund. I would have been upset if I got a shipping invoice with no info about what the defects were. If the board shows up with the wrong color, messed up plate, etc, I would be out 400 bucks with no recourse. (I got Poseidon blue). I’m bummed, I wanted the board, but I want it right or not at all. The lack of communication on the specifics of the issues means it’s more of a risk than I’m willing to take, personally.
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No invoice yet, also Poseidon Blue
Anyone here already paid the shipping invoice and got the tracking number?
Anybody who ordered red get an invoice yet?Got shipping invoice 2 days ago, ordered a red.
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I had a brief chat with Steven yesterday, he said he’s on project leave and that he’ll work on getting updates. I waited for an update but I haven’t received one at the moment. I also got an update from EVE, that he hasn’t received communication from zFrontier. I’m sorry I don’t have better news at the moment.
I had a brief chat with Steven yesterday, he said he’s on project leave and that he’ll work on getting updates. I waited for an update but I haven’t received one at the moment. I also got an update from EVE, that he hasn’t received communication from zFrontier. I’m sorry I don’t have better news at the moment.
Wait, so theres a possibility that the shipping invoice payment doesn't mean they're shipping out the boards? O.o
I had a brief chat with Steven yesterday, he said he’s on project leave and that he’ll work on getting updates. I waited for an update but I haven’t received one at the moment. I also got an update from EVE, that he hasn’t received communication from zFrontier. I’m sorry I don’t have better news at the moment.
Wait, so theres a possibility that the shipping invoice payment doesn't mean they're shipping out the boards? O.o
aw not your fault at all... it's not like you've intended to delay the shipping, it's all zfrontier's fault for all these mess. the more GBs i see on their website, the more angry I get, hope someone able to speak chinese would deliver our thoughts and concern to them, the work they are handling as of now is just overloaded, they can't even manage previous GBs properly but yet still receiving more boards and keyset groupbuys..
i just somehow wish to know how much longer the kira gonna be delayed now...
i participated in the GB with debit card, and i did contact the card company but they told me i can't get them back because i haven't reported this issue within 3 months....
WTF??
I just received track number.
But this shipment were already in my country.
I think I would get them today or tomorrow.
I ordered WKL Red + Deep black plates.
how is the shipping invoice gonna handled for people who have paid with debit/credit card? i ordered red/wkl+extra brass plate, i haven't heard anything from them nor shipping invoices
So just a quick question, since people are getting tracking numbers and shipping invoices, does anyone know if they fixed the plates or are they just sending us the botched onesI would assume that they'll send us the KILA plates but who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So just a quick question, since people are getting tracking numbers and shipping invoices, does anyone know if they fixed the plates or are they just sending us the botched ones
So just a quick question, since people are getting tracking numbers and shipping invoices, does anyone know if they fixed the plates or are they just sending us the botched ones
I haven't seen anything about that so I'm assuming it might be the botched plates but I can report back tomorrow once it's been delivered
So just a quick question, since people are getting tracking numbers and shipping invoices, does anyone know if they fixed the plates or are they just sending us the botched ones
I haven't seen anything about that so I'm assuming it might be the botched plates but I can report back tomorrow once it's been delivered
What plate(s) did you order? Just curious as to what is the hold up for some of us.
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So just a quick question, since people are getting tracking numbers and shipping invoices, does anyone know if they fixed the plates or are they just sending us the botched ones
I haven't seen anything about that so I'm assuming it might be the botched plates but I can report back tomorrow once it's been delivered
What plate(s) did you order? Just curious as to what is the hold up for some of us.
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I'm in for a WK Alum plate that's part of the Pos Blue kit. I didn't order an extra or brass plate this time around. I'm not sure if others in the same color way ordered any extras
:p Finally! I just received Kira!you got the exact same option as me lol.... how about the back view? are there any nameplates(?) like the chinese participants had?
Here are a few pictures of Board.
You should know that it was photographed by my galaxy note 9.
So it's colors doesn't match real things we look at.
Two keycaps on the board are GMK Burgundy.MoreShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/GApqMF8.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eFedU7U.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/I8Z3KAB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/173fQDQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5qhVqwC.jpg)
:p Finally! I just received Kira!
Here are a few pictures of Board.
You should know that it was photographed by my galaxy note 9.
So it's colors doesn't match real things we look at.
Two keycaps on the board are GMK Burgundy.MoreShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/GApqMF8.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eFedU7U.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/I8Z3KAB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/173fQDQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5qhVqwC.jpg)
:p Finally! I just received Kira!
Here are a few pictures of Board.
You should know that it was photographed by my galaxy note 9.
So it's colors doesn't match real things we look at.
Two keycaps on the board are GMK Burgundy.MoreShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/GApqMF8.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eFedU7U.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/I8Z3KAB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/173fQDQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5qhVqwC.jpg)
Is there a back weight also? Like in some of the Chinese GB photos. Were you in the "priority buy"?
Meanwhile, I'm over here without even a shipping invoice. Dang.
Meanwhile, I'm over here without even a shipping invoice. Dang.
me neither bro.... i specially paid with a debit card and haven't gotten a single email or replies to my email sent to them yet. And i don't understand why people are thankful and saying "at least the board arrived", i mean, we paid for the product and we deserve way better treatment... we shouldn't be thanking for the product to arrive lol, especially with the mis-manufactured plate... now i'm afraid if i will be left out by zfrontier due to their crazy lots of GBs and not able to even receive my refund nor product
Are you guys based in the USA? Just wondering where these boards are reaching first.
one thing id like to say is man for what we paid i expected better in some aspects, like one thing that irritates me are the plate screw hole tolerances are crazy big and make the screw holes show when plate is mounted and the hardware they provided is soooo crappy the heads are off center, i threw all the hardware away and used my own. otherwise im happy, wonder when my priority board will show up.
one thing id like to say is man for what we paid i expected better in some aspects, like one thing that irritates me are the plate screw hole tolerances are crazy big and make the screw holes show when plate is mounted and the hardware they provided is soooo crappy the heads are off center, i threw all the hardware away and used my own. otherwise im happy, wonder when my priority board will show up.
Wait, so you received a board but it wasn't the priority board? Are priority boards being sent out later or something? I'm based in the US midwest and still haven't received any tracking number but I did pay my invoice.
I just finished building my board.
Unfortunately I'm not able to flash it with Bootmapper Client.
It gets stuck in "processing..."
Anybody know where I can get the latest firmware files for the Kira?
Edit no2:
I got it to work.
Was a driver problem.
Windows used the wrong driver for the board (I did some experiments with an attiny85 lately and windows somehow tried to use the tinyusb driver for the board once it was in bootloader mode).
Edit:
Pic of finished boardShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/z21fGrI.jpg)
I'm very glad the boards have started to go out, I will try to get more info from zF about the others with anodizing issues and everything else that haven't shipped out. Thank you for your patience!
Received mine on Thursday, unfortunately it had a chunk shaved off the bottom edge and I'm still waiting to hear back from zF. There's also a bit of gap between the case and the rear insert. Not really an issue, but is anyone else's case like this?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hd0rwoz.jpg)
Received mine on Thursday, unfortunately it had a chunk shaved off the bottom edge and I'm still waiting to hear back from zF. There's also a bit of gap between the case and the rear insert. Not really an issue, but is anyone else's case like this?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hd0rwoz.jpg)
Received mine on Thursday, unfortunately it had a chunk shaved off the bottom edge and I'm still waiting to hear back from zF. There's also a bit of gap between the case and the rear insert. Not really an issue, but is anyone else's case like this?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hd0rwoz.jpg)
Has anyone tried to build this with the h87a?Yes, built mine with one.
Has anyone tried to build this with the h87a?Yes, built mine with one.
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Yep, no problems with fit.Has anyone tried to build this with the h87a?Yes, built mine with one.
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This is great info, the fit is perfect?
Received mine on Thursday, unfortunately it had a chunk shaved off the bottom edge and I'm still waiting to hear back from zF. There's also a bit of gap between the case and the rear insert. Not really an issue, but is anyone else's case like this?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hd0rwoz.jpg)
This is horrible, could it have happened in transit? How was the box it shipped in and how well was it packed? I'd like to help, but I haven't heard back from Alex yet.
Received mine on Thursday, unfortunately it had a chunk shaved off the bottom edge and I'm still waiting to hear back from zF. There's also a bit of gap between the case and the rear insert. Not really an issue, but is anyone else's case like this?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hd0rwoz.jpg)
This is horrible, could it have happened in transit? How was the box it shipped in and how well was it packed? I'd like to help, but I haven't heard back from Alex yet.
There was no damage to the soft shell case, or the bubble wrap inside/outside of it. Must have just been overlooked :(
Received mine on Thursday, unfortunately it had a chunk shaved off the bottom edge and I'm still waiting to hear back from zF. There's also a bit of gap between the case and the rear insert. Not really an issue, but is anyone else's case like this?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hd0rwoz.jpg)
This is horrible, could it have happened in transit? How was the box it shipped in and how well was it packed? I'd like to help, but I haven't heard back from Alex yet.
There was no damage to the soft shell case, or the bubble wrap inside/outside of it. Must have just been overlooked :(
That's crazy. Rip QC. I assume you've reached out about getting it replaced?
Still no shipping invoice for my WKL Poseidon Blue :/
some fresh photatos of my kira case hope everyone gets theirs soon!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Sco7u7v.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wENxseO.jpg)
some fresh photatos of my kira case hope everyone gets theirs soon!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Sco7u7v.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wENxseO.jpg)
nopesome fresh photatos of my kira case hope everyone gets theirs soon!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Sco7u7v.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wENxseO.jpg)
Nice, was yours a priority unit?
My gripe is that the screws for fixing the plate on mine are unbelievably tight in the holesHad same problem, ended up using some washers.
You basically have to strip them to get them in enough to hold the plate to the top
My gripe is that the screws for fixing the plate on mine are unbelievably tight in the holes
You basically have to strip them to get them in enough to hold the plate to the top
i started realizing the manufacturers lack in the threading department i chase all the threads in every case i buy with a tap and clean them up then dab some oil inhtem to make life easier and ensure i dont get stripped holes.
Has anyone who joined the priority buy received an shipping invoice yet?Priority buy participant here. No invoice yet.
Has anyone who joined the priority buy received an shipping invoice yet?Priority buy participant here. No invoice yet.
Has anyone who joined the priority buy received an shipping invoice yet?Update: Received a DHL tracking few hours ago, deep black, priority buy.
Paid the shipping invoice about 2 weeks ago and have no tracking info for now.
Update: Well, 5 hours after this post. I got a call from DHL. No tracking mail or anything. What a surprise!
And here you are
https://imgur.com/a/ImmDi6L
Paid the shipping invoice about 2 weeks ago and have no tracking info for now.
Update: Well, 5 hours after this post. I got a call from DHL. No tracking mail or anything. What a surprise!
And here you are
https://imgur.com/a/ImmDi6L
Wait what. Are you in the US by chance.
Paid the shipping invoice about 2 weeks ago and have no tracking info for now.
Update: Well, 5 hours after this post. I got a call from DHL. No tracking mail or anything. What a surprise!
And here you are
https://imgur.com/a/ImmDi6L
Paid the shipping invoice about 2 weeks ago and have no tracking info for now.
Update: Well, 5 hours after this post. I got a call from DHL. No tracking mail or anything. What a surprise!
And here you are
https://imgur.com/a/ImmDi6L
You can tell it's from asia cause it actually says kira on the plate smh
Built mine two days ago with Tangerines:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/99qLjwf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/w4SJGfY.jpg)
Paid the shipping invoice about 2 weeks ago and have no tracking info for now.
Update: Well, 5 hours after this post. I got a call from DHL. No tracking mail or anything. What a surprise!
And here you are
https://imgur.com/a/ImmDi6L
Built mine two days ago with Tangerines:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TZK8mDZ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/j9ATcAV.jpg)
Built mine two days ago with Tangerines:Muted with 9009 accents ?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TZK8mDZ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/j9ATcAV.jpg)
Built mine two days ago with Tangerines:Muted with 9009 accents ?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TZK8mDZ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/j9ATcAV.jpg)
Muted with 9009 accents ?just ePBT 9009
Built mine two days ago with Tangerines:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TZK8mDZ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/j9ATcAV.jpg)
Just went to build one of my boards and realized the USB port on one of my PCB's is smashed and pretty much unfixable, anywhwere i can buy a new one and just de solder this one? or should i hit up ZF and just pray they feel like helping me.
Just went to build one of my boards and realized the USB port on one of my PCB's is smashed and pretty much unfixable, anywhwere i can buy a new one and just de solder this one? or should i hit up ZF and just pray they feel like helping me.
you can always buy hiney's pcb and just use that.
Just went to build one of my boards and realized the USB port on one of my PCB's is smashed and pretty much unfixable, anywhwere i can buy a new one and just de solder this one? or should i hit up ZF and just pray they feel like helping me.
Just went to build one of my boards and realized the USB port on one of my PCB's is smashed and pretty much unfixable, anywhwere i can buy a new one and just de solder this one? or should i hit up ZF and just pray they feel like helping me.
Regardless of how you go about it, I'd recommend contacting zfrontier about getting a replacement. It's not like the kit was cheap. It's pretty ridiculous to pay and get a broken pcb and just leave it at that. Definitely see about getting it replaced
Still no shipping invoice for "priority" Poseidon Blue, jesus
Paid the shipping invoice about 2 weeks ago and have no tracking info for now.
Update: Well, 5 hours after this post. I got a call from DHL. No tracking mail or anything. What a surprise!
And here you are
https://imgur.com/a/ImmDi6L
Does the Poseidon Blue look ok to you?
Still no shipping invoice for "priority" Poseidon Blue, jesus
Where are you located? I haven't received mine either and mine is the same colour as yours. Could it be due to the colour?
I emailed zFrontier abt 2 weeks ago and he said he will send me an invoice soon. That was on April 8th and until now I have not received any shipping invoice nor the board.
I am based in Singapore by the way.
I got my board last week and found some scratches on the plate.
zF quality control seems not good.
thesiscamper: do you have plan to share plate data?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WzLW486.jpg)
EVE just informed me through Louis that zF should be shipping out the numpads within 15 to 20 days, he doesn't know the plan for the kits with the wrong colors though. He also apologized for his mistakes and promises to take customers more seriously.
Still no shipping invoice for "priority" Poseidon Blue, jesus
Where are you located? I haven't received mine either and mine is the same colour as yours. Could it be due to the colour?
I emailed zFrontier abt 2 weeks ago and he said he will send me an invoice soon. That was on April 8th and until now I have not received any shipping invoice nor the board.
I am based in Singapore by the way.
Also in SEA, and yeah I believe the delay is mainly because of our colour.
FYI I got an email from Alex, saying the invoice should be going out this week. Will let you know when I get mine :)
I got my board last week and found some scratches on the plate.
zF quality control seems not good.
thesiscamper: do you have plan to share plate data?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WzLW486.jpg)
I don't think EVE changed anything (ie. screw holes), I've attached the file.
edit: to the guy who downloaded the earlier file this new attachment might work better.
EVE just informed me through Louis that zF should be shipping out the numpads within 15 to 20 days, he doesn't know the plan for the kits with the wrong colors though. He also apologized for his mistakes and promises to take customers more seriously.wait what there shipping them next week but i didnt get to buy one did i miss the buy or?
EVE just informed me through Louis that zF should be shipping out the numpads within 15 to 20 days, he doesn't know the plan for the kits with the wrong colors though. He also apologized for his mistakes and promises to take customers more seriously.wait what there shipping them next week but i didnt get to buy one did i miss the buy or?
EVE just informed me through Louis that zF should be shipping out the numpads within 15 to 20 days, he doesn't know the plan for the kits with the wrong colors though. He also apologized for his mistakes and promises to take customers more seriously.wait what there shipping them next week but i didnt get to buy one did i miss the buy or?
Yeah I’m also a little confused. I didn’t see anything about the numpads for international buyers. I really want one, since I planned to use the combo at work.
Did they produce some in advance? Maybe then I don’t need to worry, that the anodizing is a different shade between both...if the board ever arrives and the numpad goes on sale! :P
EVE just informed me through Louis that zF should be shipping out the numpads within 15 to 20 days, he doesn't know the plan for the kits with the wrong colors though. He also apologized for his mistakes and promises to take customers more seriously.wait what there shipping them next week but i didnt get to buy one did i miss the buy or?
Yeah I’m also a little confused. I didn’t see anything about the numpads for international buyers. I really want one, since I planned to use the combo at work.
Did they produce some in advance? Maybe then I don’t need to worry, that the anodizing is a different shade between both...if the board ever arrives and the numpad goes on sale! :P
same here confused and sad if i dont get to buy a numpad thats really what drew me in was being able to make a set, i hope we get a shot at them.
Nothing here either. Been checking daily.Still no shipping invoice for "priority" Poseidon Blue, jesus
Where are you located? I haven't received mine either and mine is the same colour as yours. Could it be due to the colour?
I emailed zFrontier abt 2 weeks ago and he said he will send me an invoice soon. That was on April 8th and until now I have not received any shipping invoice nor the board.
I am based in Singapore by the way.
Also in SEA, and yeah I believe the delay is mainly because of our colour.
FYI I got an email from Alex, saying the invoice should be going out this week. Will let you know when I get mine :)
Did you get an invoice? Nothing here so far, and no reply to mails. I picked Poseidon Blue case and Pearl Blue plate, both "problem" colors. Maybe Pearl Blue is holding my order back, but who knows since there's no communication? I've seen Poseidon Blue Kira TKL go up on mechmarket already, and my "priority" GB board might not even be finished...
At this point I have no idea what zF intends to do with the numpads, they haven’t replied to my queries for weeks now. I leave a message maybe once or twice a week and receive no replies.
PS my Kira Looks great with Troubled Minds, hope my priority board gets shipped soon.
EVE has started fixing the parts sent back to him,, he says he can finish these and ship them back b y the end of the month.
EVE has started fixing the parts sent back to him,, he says he can finish these and ship them back b y the end of the month.
By "ship them back," he is referring to shipping it back to zFrontier, not to us, correct?
EVE has started fixing the parts sent back to him,, he says he can finish these and ship them back b y the end of the month.
By "ship them back," he is referring to shipping it back to zFrontier, not to us, correct?
Yes, that is correct.
Got my order cancelled but I was surprised to this today. Super potato of this for now, I'll post pics when it's done :p
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Got my order cancelled but I was surprised to this today. Super potato of this for now, I'll post pics when it's done :p
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I'm so curious now - were you on the 'priority GB'? What color did you get?
Got my order cancelled but I was surprised to this today. Super potato of this for now, I'll post pics when it's done :p
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I'm so curious now - were you on the 'priority GB'? What color did you get?
I didn't obtain this from the gb, technically it's a one of one. but I got black with hard anode!
Got my order cancelled but I was surprised to this today. Super potato of this for now, I'll post pics when it's done :p
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I'm so curious now - were you on the 'priority GB'? What color did you get?
I didn't obtain this from the gb, technically it's a one of one. but I got black with hard anode!
So confused as to what is going on with this buy now...interesting board though.
EVE just informed me through Louis that zF should be shipping out the numpads within 15 to 20 days, he doesn't know the plan for the kits with the wrong colors though. He also apologized for his mistakes and promises to take customers more seriously.wait what there shipping them next week but i didnt get to buy one did i miss the buy or?
Yeah I’m also a little confused. I didn’t see anything about the numpads for international buyers. I really want one, since I planned to use the combo at work.
Did they produce some in advance? Maybe then I don’t need to worry, that the anodizing is a different shade between both...if the board ever arrives and the numpad goes on sale! :P
KIRA TKL
Most orders fulfilled, the remaining one are now being fixed by EVE. Shipping ETA: mid to late June.
There is an update here: https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-may-27-2019QuoteKIRA TKL
Most orders fulfilled, the remaining one are now being fixed by EVE. Shipping ETA: mid to late June.
There is an update here: https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-may-27-2019QuoteKIRA TKL
Most orders fulfilled, the remaining one are now being fixed by EVE. Shipping ETA: mid to late June.
So september? :confused:
Any news on the rest of the kits?Last update said end of the month, so I'm thinking it'll be at least a week longer before we can start expecting/hoping for updates.
I hope the remaining kits ship out soon, I tried to get an update but have been unsuccessful.
Late June now. Anyone have any update on this? It's just laughable for me at this point that there are still people with the "easier" colors and prio slots who still havent received their boards.
Late June now. Anyone have any update on this? It's just laughable for me at this point that there are still people with the "easier" colors and prio slots who still havent received their boards.
No replies unfortunately, I’ll keep trying to reach them.
I checked with someone I know who deals with EVE to ask about the status of the Kira80s. His response was "EVE said soonish". That's all I got...October 2020 confirmed.
I checked with someone I know who deals with EVE to ask about the status of the Kira80s. His response was "EVE said soonish". That's all I got...
I checked with someone I know who deals with EVE to ask about the status of the Kira80s. His response was "EVE said soonish". That's all I got...
"soonish"...hmmm, it looks like they're trying to beat their record with elemento for most delayed gb with radio silence.
KIRA TKL
We will fulfill the remaining orders and remaining replacement requests in mid July.
Thanks for the update! That's in 5-6 days though. Got absolutely zero faith in that being true. But I hope I am wrong :))QuoteKIRA TKL
We will fulfill the remaining orders and remaining replacement requests in mid July.
https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-july-8th-2019
Looks like numpads will be available tooQuestion is if they will be available for sale, or if they're readily manufactured for whoever was able to order it at the GB stage?
Looks like numpads will be available too
Thesis, I really cant get in contact with them. Do you know a way I can get my shipping address changed? I'm not going to take my chances with this.
Thesis, I really cant get in contact with them. Do you know a way I can get my shipping address changed? I'm not going to take my chances with this.
Thesis, I really cant get in contact with them. Do you know a way I can get my shipping address changed? I'm not going to take my chances with this.
I’ll try to pass this info along, PM me the details. Do keep in mind that I can’t communicate with them directly too, or rather I don’t get replies directly.
QuoteKIRA TKL
We will fulfill the remaining orders and remaining replacement requests in mid July.
https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-july-8th-2019
QuoteKIRA TKL
We will fulfill the remaining orders and remaining replacement requests in mid July.
https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-july-8th-2019
So here we are again, 18 days later and no update - I'm usually not upset by the lack of updates or setbacks but my patience is starting wear thin now.
Here are some long overdue projects and issues that we are striving to solve in the coming month...
Remaining Kira TKL and Meteor Kits - working on getting the replacements back
Sorry guys, neither one of them has replied to my queries... I apologize for a new reply notification with no real news.
From what I understand, at this point it's not even just zFrontier, but also EVE who's become quite unreliable in their communication...
From what I understand, at this point it's not even just zFrontier, but also EVE who's become quite unreliable in their communication...
It took over a year to get MIRA replacements. EVE has been running GBs in china with no problems too.
:Thinking:
Some news, finally. EVE said the reworked sets should be ready to ship today (Friday in Asia). He said the original anodizing shop closed down, banned for not adhering to pollution standards if I understand it correctly... and that their government has been cracking down on these businesses and it has slowed things down a lot. The chat was a mixture of Google translate and vague statements so I might have misunderstood some points.
For the folks that have gotten their Kira, have any you found any issues with your PCB? It looks like I got lucky hereDo you mean unlucky? Anywho, I got two pcbs' and they were both fine. My issue was with the tight threading.Show Image(https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT)https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT
Think it's worth reaching back out to zFrontier or see if I could take my chances with a hineybush PCB at this point? Highly doubt I'll be able to find a spare original out in the wild.
For the folks that have gotten their Kira, have any you found any issues with your PCB? It looks like I got lucky hereDo you mean unlucky? Anywho, I got two pcbs' and they were both fine. My issue was with the tight threading.Show Image(https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT)https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT
Think it's worth reaching back out to zFrontier or see if I could take my chances with a hineybush PCB at this point? Highly doubt I'll be able to find a spare original out in the wild.
For the folks that have gotten their Kira, have any you found any issues with your PCB? It looks like I got lucky hereShow Image(https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT)https://imgur.com/a/xpA5WtT
Think it's worth reaching back out to zFrontier or see if I could take my chances with a hineybush PCB at this point? Highly doubt I'll be able to find a spare original out in the wild.
If nothing works, h87a is perfect for this boardDo you know if the hiney fr4 plates are also compatible?
If nothing works, h87a is perfect for this boardDo you know if the hiney fr4 plates are also compatible?
If nothing works, h87a is perfect for this boardDo you know if the hiney fr4 plates are also compatible?
If nothing works, h87a is perfect for this boardDo you know if the hiney fr4 plates are also compatible?
i'm about 80% sure this board just uses jane/orion plate, so it should work
Some news, finally. EVE said the reworked sets should be ready to ship today (Friday in Asia). He said the original anodizing shop closed down, banned for not adhering to pollution standards if I understand it correctly... and that their government has been cracking down on these businesses and it has slowed things down a lot. The chat was a mixture of Google translate and vague statements so I might have misunderstood some points.Any news if they've actually shipped?
Some news, finally. EVE said the reworked sets should be ready to ship today (Friday in Asia). He said the original anodizing shop closed down, banned for not adhering to pollution standards if I understand it correctly... and that their government has been cracking down on these businesses and it has slowed things down a lot. The chat was a mixture of Google translate and vague statements so I might have misunderstood some points.Any news if they've actually shipped?
After boarderline harassment from me, I have squeezed a vague update out of Alex Lin by going to the china ZF site and using their support channels to force an email out of Alex. This is what I received:
"Kira boards are still going out. But I cannot ship them out without EVE shipping the brass weights back to me. They delayed the weight's shipping for months :("
"I am currently contacting EVE to check on the shipping status. Hopefully he will get back to me soon."
It seems like there is contradictory info coming from both parties. Would love to know what is actually going on with this!
I just wanted to point something out, all these people bad mouthing Zfrontier should really stop. I get people are frustrated and what not, but this is the bottom line.
ZFrontier rep is destroyed
Most People are WAY past any buyer protection
ZFrontier is China based
I mean if ZFrontier decided to say screw it, people have zero recourse. I mean zero, you really can't sue them and who want to. Could file a legal dispute against them maybe. Though there international. I guess you could post there name everywhere but its to late for that. I mean hope people get there board's but maybe people want to back off the hate train. Since things could be a LOT LOT LOT worse.
Since things could be a LOT LOT LOT worse.
I just wanted to point something out, all these people bad mouthing Zfrontier should really stop. I get people are frustrated and what not, but this is the bottom line.
ZFrontier rep is destroyed
Most People are WAY past any buyer protection
ZFrontier is China based
I mean if ZFrontier decided to say screw it, people have zero recourse. I mean zero, you really can't sue them and who want to. Could file a legal dispute against them maybe. Though there international. I guess you could post there name everywhere but its to late for that. I mean hope people get there board's but maybe people want to back off the hate train. Since things could be a LOT LOT LOT worse.
So people should stop because they have no legal recourse? You realize how silly that sounds, right?
To be perfectly frank, if zfrontier communicated in threads, answered emails, tried in any way to communicate with their buyers, they wouldn't be getting bad-mouthed and their reputation wouldn't be garbage.
Any Zfrontier has brough the bad talking on themselves. Being in another country isn't an excuse.
Since things could be a LOT LOT LOT worse.
Every single ounce of negative press is earned by ZF in this situation. Their international management is negligent in tons of ways.
Ive been scammed many times over the years in this hobby (including Ivan). Literally the only "recourse" we have is to smear a ****ty company's name so people will stop doing business with them. Dont take some holier then thou stance trying to defend a company that is pulling this type of ****, when you do, this keeps happening.
The funny thing is, is that ZF is much bigger in china and actually cares about their reputation there. When you goto the china ZF site the employees are responsive and will actually help you. Its the american staff that is dropping the ball here and everyone needs to see exactly where the blame lies.
I think you both missed the point, the point wasn't they don't deserve it just that .. they have no reason to fill the group buy anymore. They could wash there hands walk away from the American market and people will just be straight up SOL. Kinda what Mechkeys.ca most likely just did to JTK hyperfuse group buy and there other group buys.
I think you both missed the point, the point wasn't they don't deserve it just that .. they have no reason to fill the group buy anymore. They could wash there hands walk away from the American market and people will just be straight up SOL. Kinda what Mechkeys.ca most likely just did to JTK hyperfuse group buy and there other group buys.
Somehow I cant imagine an international company registered for tax in multiple countries would dip on customers like your trying to say could happen in this situation. It wont.
I just wanted to point something out, all these people bad mouthing Zfrontier should really stop. I get people are frustrated and what not, but this is the bottom line.So just because we aren’t getting scammed (yet), we are not allowed to complain? Because they might hold our boards hostage if we badmouth them?
ZFrontier rep is destroyed
Most People are WAY past any buyer protection
ZFrontier is China based
I mean if ZFrontier decided to say screw it, people have zero recourse. I mean zero, you really can't sue them and who want to. Could file a legal dispute against them maybe. Though there international. I guess you could post there name everywhere but its to late for that. I mean hope people get there board's but maybe people want to back off the hate train. Since things could be a LOT LOT LOT worse.
Any updates?...
I’d like to get an idea on how many kits are unfulfilled, so please fill out this from if you’re still waiting for your kits/s. I can’t promise this will help (I think it does help if I know details) so I am not forcing anyone to fill this up, I’m just trying to do what I can.
https://forms.gle/8oKsE3R2W8Macdkd7
Holy ****! Alex has replied.Can't wait to get my board in December!
My Email:
"
Alex, EVE has confirmed shiping the brass weights to you (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96381.msg2813412#msg2813412) have you received them?
Can we expect shipping soon?
Please reply with an update we have waited 15 months to get these boards."
his reply:
"Hi,
Yes, we received them yesterday.
We will begin sorting during the Chinese National holidays and begin fulfillment early October.
Best,"
sad says in there new update that the remaining boards will be shipped after holliday and the num pads, sad we didnt get a chance at the num pads but oh well.
Emailed Alex yesterday about this:
"Hi,
We are packing the keyboards and shipping invoices should be going out one by one later today :) and shipping shall begin next week.
Sorry for the wait!
Best,"
Just paid shipping! :O
Really excited to see the board. Still a little sad we didn’t get a chance for the numpad, but maybe thesis will find a solution for that... ;)
Can't believe you're getting replies though.
Kind of curious about aftermarket PCB support for this. I understand the hineybush pcb will work but it is not readily available outside of group buys. I have heard that the Suo and Leeku pcbs from TX keyboards will work. Can anybody confirm that this is the case?
Here are the pcbs i'm referring to.
https://gyazo.com/c81c04cc71a57b48d65d0cff6c727300
https://gyazo.com/eeac4288685d6b395011cb5791561f22
They look pretty close to the Kira pcb, and it looks like it "should" fit, but would like to know for sure before I pick one up.
Kind of curious about aftermarket PCB support for this. I understand the hineybush pcb will work but it is not readily available outside of group buys. I have heard that the Suo and Leeku pcbs from TX keyboards will work. Can anybody confirm that this is the case?
Here are the pcbs i'm referring to.
https://gyazo.com/c81c04cc71a57b48d65d0cff6c727300
https://gyazo.com/eeac4288685d6b395011cb5791561f22
They look pretty close to the Kira pcb, and it looks like it "should" fit, but would like to know for sure before I pick one up.
I know the leeku TKL87L3 will fit for sure. The SUO should also fit but is unconfirmed at this time, as long as the kira 80 plate will support both north and south spacebar stabs (it should from looking at pics) then it will fit.
KIRA 80 is also listed on the TKL pcb compatibility list (but the new tx keyboards suo isnt listed just yet on it) : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GpM--fKeDw_tIDZj4m2jmbMavSyXeOu3QHzfTJwz-IM/edit#gid=0
no invoice yet, but I assume they are still going out?
My kit has arrived safely! It was delivered earlier today.
Don't have time to build it straight away, but have looked at the parts. The Poseidon Blue keyboard looks great, although there's a very minor dent in the upper right corner of the bottom case. But you'd be incredibly nitpicky to be bothered by it. Pretty much insignificant.
Both the brass plate and the alu plate lacks the KIRA cutout branding, and just has a hole in it's place, but it's not visible when built anyway so it's not a concern to me. The Pearl Blue aluminium plate looks nothing like the Pearl Blue pictured. It's way closer to a silver:ish gray with slight blue tint, but it may just be my current indoor lighting. Will have another look at it tomorrow in natural lighting.
Also can't find any rubber feet bumpons in the package, but maybe zFrontier delivers without them? My Leaf80 from zF was also sent without. I've not been in that many keyboard GB's so I don't know if it's standard procedure to source them by oneself. In any case I have a few that probably fits.
All in all I am super happy with the kit. Thanks to Thesiscamper for pushing for updates and more information when there was no communication. That also goes for other GB participants that got us extra info whenever possible. Thanks everyone <3
Thanks for the replies about the bumpons. Unfortunately there were none to be found in my package nor around the floor where I opened it, but it's alright.
Hope you guys enjoy building your boards!
Stupid question but are the plate screws too long? And if so, what size do I need?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191029/c42011f7a9e9c94db48873c4c8bccb32.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191029/d1e34bdff3ec14a0fea0f68ed0ec79ed.jpg)
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Also, don't forcefully tighten them if they feel like they don't go any further. They strip pretty easily as I found out the hard way :'(Stupid question but are the plate screws too long? And if so, what size do I need?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191029/c42011f7a9e9c94db48873c4c8bccb32.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191029/d1e34bdff3ec14a0fea0f68ed0ec79ed.jpg)
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Should be M3*5 cap head screws, which might be the one in the middle.
Same, why I asked because none of the screws I tried were the right length.Also, don't forcefully tighten them if they feel like they don't go any further. They strip pretty easily as I found out the hard way :'(Stupid question but are the plate screws too long? And if so, what size do I need?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191029/c42011f7a9e9c94db48873c4c8bccb32.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191029/d1e34bdff3ec14a0fea0f68ed0ec79ed.jpg)
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Should be M3*5 cap head screws, which might be the one in the middle.
Also can't find any rubber feet bumpons in the package, but maybe zFrontier delivers without them? My Leaf80 from zF was also sent without. I've not been in that many keyboard GB's so I don't know if it's standard procedure to source them by oneself. In any case I have a few that probably fits.
What would be the easiest way to get a new plate that fits the kira?
You are correct, found them. Thanks!What would be the easiest way to get a new plate that fits the kira?
I think the plate files are in this thread somewhere - could make your own if that's the case.
Also can't find any rubber feet bumpons in the package, but maybe zFrontier delivers without them? My Leaf80 from zF was also sent without. I've not been in that many keyboard GB's so I don't know if it's standard procedure to source them by oneself. In any case I have a few that probably fits.
I didn't find any feet at first either, but they were somewhat tucked away inside the carrying case. I think I got two sets as well, if you're in the EU, I can ship you a set if you want.
The bumpon indentations at the bottom are measured for 3M SJ5302 bumpons, for anyone who is missing theirs.I did notice that the bumpons included (at least in my package) are smaller than the provided indentation.
hmm, nothing here either, ill have to send them a messageI sent them a message last week, still no sign of invoice or reply.
Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.
On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.
Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.
On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.
Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.
Sorry you got screwed over but that shouldn't negate someone else's negative experience.Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.
On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.
Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.
You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.
Sorry you got screwed over but that shouldn't negate someone else's negative experience.Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.It's also a completely different thing when you're entering a GB with an established vendor vs someone who's entirely new.
On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.
Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.
You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.
Like going to a restaurant, telling other patrons that they shouldn't complain about cold food because they had food poisoning from the burger joint across the street.
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Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.
On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.
Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.
You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.
Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.
On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.
Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.
You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.
I've been in a bunch of GB's before and my experiences were never this bad. I guess the way we are viewing this are just skewed by the differences in our past experiences and expectations with GB's as a result. I have come to expect delays but never delays with radio silence and 0 correspondence, much less a scam. By offering a refund, they would have essentially taken my money, strung me along until the very end where they then proceeded to **** up on production, even with all the delays and then given me back what I paid which actually translate to less than what I paid due to inflation and opportunity cost. If that's not insulting, I don't know what is. For that reason, I'd rather take the color change but that still sucks since it's not what I paid for. I don't think I can really "get over it" in that regards.
While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money.
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The chances of getting screwed are most likely 75/25.
Not that it matters cause people will think what they want.. didn't say half but yes majority of group buys go well. and about 25% do fail.. I say thats still majority. I never quoted half thought honestly half of them have issues the Person I quoted had. What ever found some people are just toxic and just want to complain with out weighting risk of joining a group buy yea its a risk reward situation.While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money.
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The chances of getting screwed are most likely 75/25.
So you've gone from saying the majority of GBs go well, to saying that only half go well, to saying that only 1/4 go well... all in a matter of hours. What?
Just let the man be upset. He's well within his rights and you're just making yourself look like an ass.
Got some extra bumpons from a local store for my Leaf80. Pretty sure they will fit here also! Thanks though @forevermadrigal
Anyone else got a problem with their brass plate? My GMK Screw-in stab won't fit in the right side cutout for 6.25u space. The cutout is not big enough.
I have an extra aluminium plate in my order. There it is a tight fit, but it is doable. Just a bit annoying because I wanted to use the brass plate for this build. I guess it's possible to file the plate down a few mm though :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i7WKjTX.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1PZ8lEJ.jpg)
Got some extra bumpons from a local store for my Leaf80. Pretty sure they will fit here also! Thanks though @forevermadrigal
Anyone else got a problem with their brass plate? My GMK Screw-in stab won't fit in the right side cutout for 6.25u space. The cutout is not big enough.
I have an extra aluminium plate in my order. There it is a tight fit, but it is doable. Just a bit annoying because I wanted to use the brass plate for this build. I guess it's possible to file the plate down a few mm though :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i7WKjTX.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1PZ8lEJ.jpg)
Just got a chance to check mine and my brass plate is the same way, its a hair too small. I also picked up an alum and a polycarb plate and I can say that the issue is also present in the polycarb plate but not the aluminum one. I can actually jam the stab housing in there but it bends a little. I will probably file it down a little rather then deal with ZF ever again.
Other issues were wrong length hardware and wrong type of hardware. The screws for the plate are sink hardware and should be truss head and are too long. The weight hardware was too short to secure my weight. The only ones i didnt have to replace are the actual case screws that are fixed thru the bottom. Also shipped with the wrong size bumpon.
Got some extra bumpons from a local store for my Leaf80. Pretty sure they will fit here also! Thanks though @forevermadrigal
Anyone else got a problem with their brass plate? My GMK Screw-in stab won't fit in the right side cutout for 6.25u space. The cutout is not big enough.
I have an extra aluminium plate in my order. There it is a tight fit, but it is doable. Just a bit annoying because I wanted to use the brass plate for this build. I guess it's possible to file the plate down a few mm though :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i7WKjTX.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1PZ8lEJ.jpg)
Just got a chance to check mine and my brass plate is the same way, its a hair too small. I also picked up an alum and a polycarb plate and I can say that the issue is also present in the polycarb plate but not the aluminum one. I can actually jam the stab housing in there but it bends a little. I will probably file it down a little rather then deal with ZF ever again.
Other issues were wrong length hardware and wrong type of hardware. The screws for the plate are sink hardware and should be truss head and are too long. The weight hardware was too short to secure my weight. The only ones i didnt have to replace are the actual case screws that are fixed thru the bottom. Also shipped with the wrong size bumpon.
I've seen it mentioned that newer stab tooling made them a bit thicker, so the newer stabs hardly fit through the cutouts. It was something I didn't expect, I've since changed the cutouts for later plates. As for the scews, I'm not sure why this has happened, EVE has shipped KIRA80s before with correct screws.
For those who need them, screws are all M3.
- 8 pcs. M3*8 or M3*10 flathead/countersunk for bottom to top
- 8 pcs. M3*5 sockethead or cap head for plate
- 4 pcs. M3*5 flathead/countersunk for weight
Bumpons are 3M SJ5302 or other 8mm diameter ones.
I've seen it mentioned that newer stab tooling made them a bit thicker, so the newer stabs hardly fit through the cutouts. It was something I didn't expect, I've since changed the cutouts for later plates. As for the scews, I'm not sure why this has happened, EVE has shipped KIRA80s before with correct screws.
For those who need them, screws are all M3.
- 8 pcs. M3*8 or M3*10 flathead/countersunk for bottom to top
- 8 pcs. M3*5 sockethead or cap head for plate
- 4 pcs. M3*5 flathead/countersunk for weight
I've seen it mentioned that newer stab tooling made them a bit thicker, so the newer stabs hardly fit through the cutouts. It was something I didn't expect, I've since changed the cutouts for later plates. As for the scews, I'm not sure why this has happened, EVE has shipped KIRA80s before with correct screws.
For those who need them, screws are all M3.
- 8 pcs. M3*8 or M3*10 flathead/countersunk for bottom to top
- 8 pcs. M3*5 sockethead or cap head for plate
- 4 pcs. M3*5 flathead/countersunk for weight
thesiscamper, i just wanted to say that the board itself is really nice and the anno from eve is nice and even. The way that ZF handled the GB was pretty bad but the end product is very nice. I wish it would have gone smoother. Overall a great board.
One little thing is that im assuming that you are basing the hardware lengths on your initial design, a couple things that I can tell you from having 2 kits in my hands is that the weight hardware length will probably need to be tested on a case to case basis because in one of the kits that I received, the weight hardware fit but on the other one it didnt and required longer hardware. That means that the weights are not all the same. Not a huge issue but still present.
Also if you are calling for sink hardware for the case screws then that was wrong from eve also, as all the 8mm hardware that was shipped to me is all sockethead hardware. I will swap those out also.
Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.
Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.
I asked for an update last night and I'm waiting for a reply, I will give you an update when I know more.
Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.
I asked for an update last night and I'm waiting for a reply, I will give you an update when I know more.
Thanks, appreciate your effort. It's been 3 weeks since I paid my shipping invoice and there's still no sign of the kit :v
Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.
I asked for an update last night and I'm waiting for a reply, I will give you an update when I know more.
Thanks, appreciate your effort. It's been 3 weeks since I paid my shipping invoice and there's still no sign of the kit :v
Yea, Alex contacted me regarding shipping a few weeks ago. Had to postpone a bit due to being on holidays but I got a prompt answer from him.
Shipping is paid now though :)
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So, an ISO plate file was posted earlier in the thread. Is there an ANSI plate file that can be shared as well? Unless the ISO plate supports ANSI? I am not exactly sure.
I need to order another plate for this but am unsure if the ISO plate file will support an ANSI layout.
So, an ISO plate file was posted earlier in the thread. Is there an ANSI plate file that can be shared as well? Unless the ISO plate supports ANSI? I am not exactly sure.
I need to order another plate for this but am unsure if the ISO plate file will support an ANSI layout.
It's for both.
If anyone here has the plate file, could you please send it to me or post it here?
It's in the thread somewhere, unless beaming deleted it.
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It's in the thread somewhere, unless beaming deleted it.
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I've been skimming through the pages and could not find it, hopefully it's not deleted.
It's in the thread somewhere, unless beaming deleted it.
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I've been skimming through the pages and could not find it, hopefully it's not deleted.
I got my board last week and found some scratches on the plate.
zF quality control seems not good.
thesiscamper: do you have plan to share plate data?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WzLW486.jpg)
I don't think EVE changed anything (ie. screw holes), I've attached the file.
edit: to the guy who downloaded the earlier file this new attachment might work better.
Thank you so much! Just one last question, anyone know around what thickness the brass plates were?
Hey everyone :D
For those that don't like Bootmapper or just prefer QMK in general:
I did the work and ported the original Kira 80 PCB to QMK.
https://config.qmk.fm/#/kira80/LAYOUT_tkl_ansi
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/kira80
board is fully supported now and everything works (including backlight). Can be flashed using the bootloadHID tools (included in qmk).
anyone has a spare pcb to sell by any chance?
i may have damaged the lctrl button in my desoldering process. tried remapping and flashing again but the lctrl still doesnt work. :(
Hey everyone :D
For those that don't like Bootmapper or just prefer QMK in general:
I did the work and ported the original Kira 80 PCB to QMK.
https://config.qmk.fm/#/kira80/LAYOUT_tkl_ansi
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/kira80
board is fully supported now and everything works (including backlight). Can be flashed using the bootloadHID tools (included in qmk).
anyone has a spare pcb to sell by any chance?
i may have damaged the lctrl button in my desoldering process. tried remapping and flashing again but the lctrl still doesnt work. :(
You can get the h87a or SUO PCB for it.