Post by: Rensuya on Sat, 29 February 2020, 23:31:49
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I bring you the lost city of Atlantis or if you will "KATlantis"
We are officially live, click here to join the Groupbuy!
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From the darkest depths of the ocean,
I bring you the lost city of Atlantis or if you will "KATlantis"
We are officially live, click here to join the Groupbuy!
US: Cannonkeys (https://cannonkeys.com/collections/featured/products/gb-kat-atlantis)
EU: MyKeyboard (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/kat-atlantis_265/)
Oceania: DailyClack (https://dailyclack.com/collections/group-buys/products/kat-atlantis)
Asia: zFrontier (https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/groupbuy/products/kat-atlantis?variant=31843958456398)
Canada: Desk Hero (https://www.deskhero.ca/collections/open-group-buys/products/kat-atlantis)
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Atlantis X Rama
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[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102423.0][img]https://i.imgur.com/fVipJyh.png[/img][/url]Post by: Rensuya on Sat, 29 February 2020, 23:32:02
Post by: Rilow on Mon, 02 March 2020, 11:17:37
People will regret not getting this.
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 02 March 2020, 11:24:38
Post by: Rensuya on Mon, 02 March 2020, 11:31:39
The cannonkeys link is wrong - it points to GMK peaches and cream.Fixed :thumb:
Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 02 March 2020, 12:07:25
Post by: Vizir on Mon, 02 March 2020, 13:07:00
Ordered way too much, got the greek alphas instead of the regular alphas to go with the theme, not sure if i should get them also :/Greek alphas > alphas :)
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Post by: rewke on Mon, 02 March 2020, 14:18:42
Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 02 March 2020, 14:39:42
Haha. Def how I'm feeling. Have plenty of English alpha sets. Feel like Greek on this is cool. Just like base Perestroika.Ordered way too much, got the greek alphas instead of the regular alphas to go with the theme, not sure if i should get them also :/Greek alphas > alphas :)
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Post by: jchw on Mon, 02 March 2020, 19:12:45
Post by: S2_CG on Mon, 02 March 2020, 19:41:29
Post by: nasp on Mon, 02 March 2020, 19:41:47
How long will the GB run? I couldn't find any dates mentioned. Maybe I"m just blind
Until the end of the month just like all Cannon Keys sets. I think only a couple of mod-only sets haven't followed that pattern.
Post by: dvorcol on Mon, 02 March 2020, 21:03:40
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Post by: psxndc on Mon, 02 March 2020, 21:46:39
Post by: Shaphyna on Tue, 03 March 2020, 16:23:47
1. Adding a navy spacebar (6.25) to the alt alpha set as the rest of the alpha sets have both coloured spacebars. Would have requested the spacebars to be moved to mods sets instead since ergo users wont need the 6.25u spacebars (similar to Minterly's KAT Eternal set) but I think that's a little to late oops.
2. Adding F5-F8 keys to the alt alpha set, so those getting the alphas can choose which Fn keys to swap out.
3. Splitting the alt numpad to its own set, since numpad is already its own set. Not everyone getting the alt alphas necessarily need the numpad set either.
Again, I understand if its too late for any changes but thanks for hearing me out otherwise! Wished I had said something earlier but I didn't notice it until I saw the new renders with the alt alphas and wanted to get them :(. Thank you! :)
Post by: Kristof on Sat, 07 March 2020, 08:18:10
Post by: Rensuya on Sat, 07 March 2020, 15:41:18
Might be a little too late since GB has started and it might affect pricing of the kits! But I thought I'd just give it a shot to ask if any of these changes could be implemented?It's too late to make any changes to this. Once a keyset goes GB, nothing can be done.
1. Adding a navy spacebar (6.25) to the alt alpha set as the rest of the alpha sets have both coloured spacebars. Would have requested the spacebars to be moved to mods sets instead since ergo users wont need the 6.25u spacebars (similar to Minterly's KAT Eternal set) but I think that's a little to late oops.
2. Adding F5-F8 keys to the alt alpha set, so those getting the alphas can choose which Fn keys to swap out.
3. Splitting the alt numpad to its own set, since numpad is already its own set. Not everyone getting the alt alphas necessarily need the numpad set either.
Again, I understand if its too late for any changes but thanks for hearing me out otherwise! Wished I had said something earlier but I didn't notice it until I saw the new renders with the alt alphas and wanted to get them :(. Thank you! :)
Post by: Rensuya on Sat, 07 March 2020, 15:41:36
1 week progress update?Will post a 1 week update once we get there
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 07 March 2020, 16:09:29
But what if we want week 2 results NOW!?!?1 week progress update?Will post a 1 week update once we get there
Post by: Shaphyna on Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:57:09
Might be a little too late since GB has started and it might affect pricing of the kits! But I thought I'd just give it a shot to ask if any of these changes could be implemented?It's too late to make any changes to this. Once a keyset goes GB, nothing can be done.
1. Adding a navy spacebar (6.25) to the alt alpha set as the rest of the alpha sets have both coloured spacebars. Would have requested the spacebars to be moved to mods sets instead since ergo users wont need the 6.25u spacebars (similar to Minterly's KAT Eternal set) but I think that's a little to late oops.
2. Adding F5-F8 keys to the alt alpha set, so those getting the alphas can choose which Fn keys to swap out.
3. Splitting the alt numpad to its own set, since numpad is already its own set. Not everyone getting the alt alphas necessarily need the numpad set either.
Again, I understand if its too late for any changes but thanks for hearing me out otherwise! Wished I had said something earlier but I didn't notice it until I saw the new renders with the alt alphas and wanted to get them :(. Thank you! :)
Yeah I didn’t think any changes could be made either. Just thought I’d drop a message to consider for future sets. Thanks for the reply though, much appreciated!! Went with the alt alphas in the end so can’t wait for that :thumb:
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:24:55
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Post by: Shutter_Shock on Tue, 10 March 2020, 00:56:39
I really like the look of this set, but I also plan on buying GMK Nautilus 2, GMK Midnight Rainbow, 4 of the GMK Bleached RAMA caps, the Zambumon Jules, the SOAP macro pad, and maybe the Eclipse F-row-less TKL that's currently in IC. So considering that I'm already spending too much money, I hesitate to order a set that I may dislike the profile of.
Tl;dr
Any insight into how KAT may be for a GMK user that finds SA too tall would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Tue, 10 March 2020, 07:02:06
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 10 March 2020, 07:34:43
I’ve not personally used KAT, but from the specifications its closest analog is DSS from Signature Plastics. It has spherically-shaped tops like SA, rather than cylindrical tops like GMK. The height and overall angles of the row-to-row sculpt are somewhat closer to GMK, however.
Yeah. That last line is why I much prefer KAT over SA
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 10 March 2020, 16:42:28
Forgive me because I'm pretty sure this was brought up a couple times in the IC thread. Can anyone talk a little more about KAT profile? I personally use GMK on all of my boards. I've used OEM too and liked it. SA has always intrigued me, but every time I've tried SA at a meetup, it has just seemed way too tall for me. I've tried MT3 as well, and while I love the look of it, I found it a little uncomfortable (weird might be a better word) if my keystrokes didn't hit perfectly centered on the keycap. Again, I've always found spherical profiles interesting and cool looking, but I just haven't found one that was right for me. I have obviously not yet tried KAT.
I really like the look of this set, but I also plan on buying GMK Nautilus 2, GMK Midnight Rainbow, 4 of the GMK Bleached RAMA caps, the Zambumon Jules, the SOAP macro pad, and maybe the Eclipse F-row-less TKL that's currently in IC. So considering that I'm already spending too much money, I hesitate to order a set that I may dislike the profile of.
Tl;dr
Any insight into how KAT may be for a GMK user that finds SA too tall would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Here's a side view comparing KAT to SA and Cherry (GMK).
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Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Wed, 11 March 2020, 14:45:40
Definitely sweat this set but need to patiently wait for KAT Milkshake before I start dropping $ on KAT profiles.
Post by: ngb09229 on Sat, 14 March 2020, 09:17:38
Post by: OmniSzron on Sat, 14 March 2020, 09:41:47
Post by: Arkells on Sat, 14 March 2020, 21:59:30
Post by: Adelscott on Sun, 15 March 2020, 19:26:07
Post by: sevenseacat on Sun, 15 March 2020, 20:50:42
edit: oh and creatures ofc
Post by: big_tuna on Mon, 16 March 2020, 04:56:04
Post by: gurdenc on Mon, 16 March 2020, 23:03:04
Post by: Rensuya on Mon, 16 March 2020, 23:19:46
planning to get this but was hoping we might see some collabs soon :) . Any idea about dates when we might expect some of these?Hopefully soon. I'll reach out to some of the collabs that I originally made plans with and see. I'm really just at their mercy though about when they happen lol
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 17 March 2020, 23:24:04
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Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 18 March 2020, 06:49:22
Post by: DrHigsby on Wed, 18 March 2020, 11:35:03
Damn. Killing it. Double moq.
I’m convinced this is going to be one of those kits that people will regret not picking up by end of the year.
Post by: vsrnth on Wed, 18 March 2020, 11:36:27
Isn't that the case with every kitDamn. Killing it. Double moq.
I’m convinced this is going to be one of those kits that people will regret not picking up by end of the year.
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Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 18 March 2020, 12:11:24
Haha. Some more than others. Some barely make moq and then get huge in aftermarket.Isn't that the case with every kitDamn. Killing it. Double moq.
I’m convinced this is going to be one of those kits that people will regret not picking up by end of the year.
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Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 24 March 2020, 20:47:49
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Post by: Drudoo on Fri, 27 March 2020, 17:36:40
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 27 March 2020, 19:19:31
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 27 March 2020, 19:33:22
Edit ==
No. Someone will buy the RAMA. We have a couple days.
Post by: PotatoTM on Sat, 28 March 2020, 04:43:24
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 28 March 2020, 06:44:57
Are we at the last day?Haha. I know. Just think it's funny that it's so close.
Edit ==
No. Someone will buy the RAMA. We have a couple days.
Post by: Scucka on Sat, 28 March 2020, 15:04:12
Post by: depletedvespene on Sat, 28 March 2020, 17:17:35
Post by: rockydbull on Tue, 31 March 2020, 08:19:27
Post by: DrHigsby on Tue, 31 March 2020, 09:50:43
Just put my order in for Atlantis. Pretty disappointed the deskmats can't be combined and its an additional 10 dollars of shipping...
As was explained to me, deskmats come from a separate vendor at a different time from the keycaps and would not be appropriate to send with the keycaps in the same order. Deskmats are also a bit unwieldy of an item to ship, so if you want yours shipped without damage, it costs about $10 to do this domestically.
Well worth the expense IMO. Hope this aids in your understanding. :cool:
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 31 March 2020, 15:11:36
Got only the alphas because i'm broke. Although very nice set ;)
What mods are you going to use with the alphas?
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 31 March 2020, 16:10:19
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Post by: eskimojo on Tue, 31 March 2020, 16:44:48
Got only the alphas because i'm broke. Although very nice set ;)
What mods are you going to use with the alphas?
Maybe he has a Pain27 ;)
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 31 March 2020, 16:52:23
Or mix and match with another Kat setGot only the alphas because i'm broke. Although very nice set ;)
What mods are you going to use with the alphas?
Maybe he has a Pain27 ;)
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 31 March 2020, 16:59:06
Got only the alphas because i'm broke. Although very nice set ;)
What mods are you going to use with the alphas?
Maybe he has a Pain27 ;)
Then just missing a 2u spacebar.
Post by: eskimojo on Tue, 31 March 2020, 17:13:04
Got only the alphas because i'm broke. Although very nice set ;)
What mods are you going to use with the alphas?
Maybe he has a Pain27 ;)
Then just missing a 2u spacebar.
You're thinking of the Alpha28, the Pain27 has a 6.25u space:
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Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 31 March 2020, 22:03:05
Got only the alphas because i'm broke. Although very nice set ;)
What mods are you going to use with the alphas?
Maybe he has a Pain27 ;)
Then just missing a 2u spacebar.
You're thinking of the Alpha28, the Pain27 has a 6.25u space:Show Image(https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/titlecard.jpg)
You're right, my mistake. I was confused by Alpha28 links in Pain27's OP. 27 or 28, either way I cannot imagine being productive on something so small.
Post by: psxndc on Wed, 01 April 2020, 02:52:46
THAT'SWHATSHESAID!
Post by: Rensuya on Wed, 01 April 2020, 13:16:59
We're currently at 230,000 units!
Thank you all so much for the support ;D
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Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 01 April 2020, 15:31:39
We're currently at 230,000 units!
Astounding number, indeed (and I'm betting on it reaching 250.000).
... which begs the post-mortem analysis of kitting: for KAT sets that are known/expected to be as popular as this, with little trouble of far surpassing the MOQ, should we still be doing the "plain English alphas" + "group of foreign languages kit" thing?
I suspect that it'll be better, again, for KAT sets known/expected to far surpass their MOQs, to go with as many alpha sets as national layouts will be involved, so instead of the above, go with alpha kits like this: a) English (USA); b) English (UK); c) German; d) Spanish (Spain); e) Spanish (Latin America); f) Iberoamerican; g) Portuguese; h) Italian; i) Norwegian; .......
This would reduce the total amount of keys produced, the total amount of unused keys and, hopefully, the per kit price to pay.
Post by: psxndc on Wed, 01 April 2020, 16:26:18
With KATlantis, if I decide to get rid of it down the road, I can sell the alphas and will probably be stuck only with Colevrak. Not ideal, but not terrible.
With KAT Space Cadet, which has multiple full custom alpha sets, I'm getting the Colemak+ set of alphas, which I'll never be able to unload if I decide down the road to get rid of the Space Cadet set.
That ultimately didn't change my decision to get the set, but it came into consideration as I put that and Space Cadet's mono-legends into my cart. I'm basically banking that I'll never tire of the sets or that I can find another Colemak user/person with the same taste.
Post by: dvorcol on Wed, 01 April 2020, 17:42:53
... which begs the post-mortem analysis of kitting: for KAT sets that are known/expected to be as popular as this, with little trouble of far surpassing the MOQ ...
How easy is it to predict GB popularity?
Let's run a contest every month to guess the sales for the upcoming batch of GBs. Entries close in the middle of each month, for example, covering all GBs known to start after entries close and prior to the next entry deadline.
I think it's been done before, and the results were all over the map.
Post by: rockydbull on Wed, 01 April 2020, 21:05:07
We're currently at 230,000 units!
Astounding number, indeed (and I'm betting on it reaching 250.000).
... which begs the post-mortem analysis of kitting: for KAT sets that are known/expected to be as popular as this, with little trouble of far surpassing the MOQ, should we still be doing the "plain English alphas" + "group of foreign languages kit" thing?
I suspect that it'll be better, again, for KAT sets known/expected to far surpass their MOQs, to go with as many alpha sets as national layouts will be involved, so instead of the above, go with alpha kits like this: a) English (USA); b) English (UK); c) German; d) Spanish (Spain); e) Spanish (Latin America); f) Iberoamerican; g) Portuguese; h) Italian; i) Norwegian; .......
This would reduce the total amount of keys produced, the total amount of unused keys and, hopefully, the per kit price to pay.
The problem with going to a ton of child kits is it makes sorting more difficult. At this point I think we are at a pretty fair compromise considering the price.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 01 April 2020, 21:29:14
Post by: Rensuya on Thu, 02 April 2020, 11:56:55
Go check out Nava on Instagram and follow for when it goes live! Click here for Navacaps (https://www.instagram.com/navacaps/)
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Post by: dvorcol on Fri, 03 April 2020, 17:01:00
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Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Mon, 13 April 2020, 13:38:26
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105714.0
Given that you probably won't want to alter the legends or total key count at this stage, the most important takeaway is that all the 1u keys in the thumb clusters should be R2, not R1. Likewise, all vertical 1.5u keys should be R2.
Otherwise, those lower keys are just going to be a series of sharp edges for an Ergodox user's thumbs.
Post by: Cornelius240 on Mon, 13 April 2020, 23:36:42
Post by: psxndc on Mon, 13 April 2020, 23:52:44
I’m so bummed I missed this. :'(I am sure there will be extras when this ships.
Post by: RedBeardDog on Tue, 14 April 2020, 21:57:10
Post by: HOBI3CAT on Fri, 17 April 2020, 17:14:11
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSevRP4Gw9XfUuy_SaNlaO45dlt5s71xFiZqlFQ5x7cgetjQnw/viewform?usp=sf_link
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Post by: In0cenT on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:29:16
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Post by: dvorcol on Sun, 03 May 2020, 14:25:34
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Post by: thecheeselouise on Sun, 03 May 2020, 18:40:46
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GKhgjHX.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JSx0BG4.png)
661% over MOQ. Wow.
Post by: LordOwen on Sat, 06 June 2020, 10:01:10
Post by: thecheeselouise on Sat, 06 June 2020, 12:01:20
I'm kicking myself for getting into the hobby roughly two weeks after the GB closed. Hopefully, there'll be a R2 one day, or even extras once things start to ship.
A lot of people bought this set, you'll probably have decent luck finding it on the mechmarket a few weeks after it ships.
Post by: Symbiote on Sun, 07 June 2020, 03:48:56
A lot of people bought this set, you'll probably have decent luck finding it on the mechmarket a few weeks after it ships.
I just went to find my order confirmation for KAT Atlantis, and I can't find it anywhere. I have a "Welcome to My Keyboard" email on the day Denmark announced a general Corona-lockdown, and I must have not actually submitted the order.
This is frustrating, I'm really annoyed with myself, as I made some suggestions in the IC for changes to the Ergo kits, and the result was perfect for me. Is it likely the 40s/Orth/Ergo/Dvorak kits will be resold, or available as extras after production?
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Sun, 07 June 2020, 23:26:59
A lot of people bought this set, you'll probably have decent luck finding it on the mechmarket a few weeks after it ships.
I just went to find my order confirmation for KAT Atlantis, and I can't find it anywhere. I have a "Welcome to My Keyboard" email on the day Denmark announced a general Corona-lockdown, and I must have not actually submitted the order.
This is frustrating, I'm really annoyed with myself, as I made some suggestions in the IC for changes to the Ergo kits, and the result was perfect for me. Is it likely the 40s/Orth/Ergo/Dvorak kits will be resold, or available as extras after production?
Post by: Rensuya on Thu, 09 July 2020, 19:33:36
We are very happy with these and will be the colors used.
(https://i.imgur.com/h5Ueexf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hr4GgPs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/z6Ahy4X.jpg)
Post by: RedBeardDog on Thu, 09 July 2020, 21:01:47
i have been thinking that it would be like rama keycap color
:(
Post by: Ryliu on Thu, 09 July 2020, 21:54:36
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Thu, 09 July 2020, 22:52:44
Main color much darker then on alpha’s kit picture in store....I think you might be mistaking surface reflection for lightness. The RAMA cap in the picture is made of a glossy material, while KAT key caps are matte. They look pretty dang close in that photo once you compare the parts of the RAMA that aren’t reflecting.
i have been thinking that it would be like rama keycap color
:(
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 09 July 2020, 23:05:23
Post by: DrHigsby on Fri, 10 July 2020, 10:01:35
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Fri, 10 July 2020, 11:57:30
Post by: monkeywright on Wed, 29 July 2020, 18:14:03
Post by: phinix on Thu, 30 July 2020, 17:11:42
Post by: quickbrownfox on Thu, 30 July 2020, 22:27:55
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Tue, 18 August 2020, 09:44:56
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 24 August 2020, 13:33:16
Post by: Wiskers on Tue, 01 September 2020, 23:46:56
Quote
Current ETA: Q1 2021
2020-08-27: While we have not received any new updates from Keyreative directly, we now expect this to ship in Q1 2021
2020-05-18: We have received color samples for KAT Atlantis and have approved the colors.
Don't know if other sites have said anything about this, but I suppose delays are pretty bad given COVID and others factors.
Post by: ireverliat on Sun, 27 September 2020, 17:43:11
When 2nd round?
Post by: posph on Mon, 28 September 2020, 03:55:04
Post by: boneandbee on Fri, 02 October 2020, 09:20:35
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 11 November 2020, 12:21:28
If production isn't well under way by now, don't expect anything by October. Going by the pace of other KAT group buys I'll be surprised if we see this before end of year.Pretty poor form to have gone well past estimated delivery date and still no updates at all...
Post by: dvorcol on Wed, 11 November 2020, 12:28:24
If production isn't well under way by now, don't expect anything by October. Going by the pace of other KAT group buys I'll be surprised if we see this before end of year.Pretty poor form to have gone well past estimated delivery date and still no updates at all...
I've heard shipping is estimated to be some time in Q1 2021.
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sun, 15 November 2020, 07:48:02
The problem is that it seems that once a GB is over, Rensuya doesn't care about it anymore. It's not hard to write down a comment in the main thing in which GB updates should be provided.If production isn't well under way by now, don't expect anything by October. Going by the pace of other KAT group buys I'll be surprised if we see this before end of year.Pretty poor form to have gone well past estimated delivery date and still no updates at all...
I've heard shipping is estimated to be some time in Q1 2021.
Post by: Rensuya on Sun, 15 November 2020, 11:54:53
Current ETA: Q1 2021
Post by: Iamsosmrt on Fri, 01 January 2021, 19:48:40
Post by: Treehouse on Thu, 07 January 2021, 21:22:50
Post by: hammerbrotha on Fri, 08 January 2021, 09:18:30
Since we're now in Q1 are there any updates on the GB? Like a estimated delivery date to the vendors/buyers?Based on the current queue we are a few sets behind. I'm guessing summer or fall.
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Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sat, 09 January 2021, 02:00:09
What's left before this- lich, oasis, lucky jade?Since we're now in Q1 are there any updates on the GB? Like a estimated delivery date to the vendors/buyers?Based on the current queue we are a few sets behind. I'm guessing summer or fall.
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Post by: dmatx1 on Sat, 09 January 2021, 02:37:52
What's left before this- lich, oasis, lucky jade?+ Drifter
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 12 January 2021, 08:02:33
and then after that also still waiting for Hyperfuse, Iron and Cyberspace. I feel like Keyreative has made GMK look like amateurs when it comes to how long you can keep taking new orders without delivering on any old ones.What's left before this- lich, oasis, lucky jade?+ Drifter
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Thu, 14 January 2021, 07:38:20
and then after that also still waiting for Hyperfuse, Iron and Cyberspace. I feel like Keyreative has made GMK look like amateurs when it comes to how long you can keep taking new orders without delivering on any old ones.What's left before this- lich, oasis, lucky jade?+ Drifter
You missed so many sets there. After Atlantis there is space cadet, arctic, explosion and only then the ones you named
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 14 January 2021, 11:33:23
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 14 January 2021, 11:38:18
This helps explain the delays
Post by: joshuarubin on Thu, 14 January 2021, 11:47:07
Post by: DarkForce on Sun, 07 February 2021, 13:56:21
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/40/f7/7940f72cb3c1cb274c191214c1e1dee4.gif)
Pain.
Post by: Rensuya on Sat, 13 March 2021, 15:30:40
Just reporting we're still on track for Q2 2021 delivery. I know keyreative delays have been annoying but not much we can do. Very excited for you to all finally have this awesome set in hand and I'm sure it will be worth the wait!
Post by: asciisii on Sat, 13 March 2021, 17:26:10
Hey guys,
Just reporting we're still on track for Q2 2021 delivery. I know keyreative delays have been annoying but not much we can do. Very excited for you to all finally have this awesome set in hand and I'm sure it will be worth the wait!
Thanks for the update. Have all the issues from the previous KAT sets been addressed (kitty, eternal)?
Post by: mariachiforhire on Mon, 15 March 2021, 22:39:29
just got into this mechanical keyboard scene and digging this group buy
Post by: MortalFlesh on Sun, 21 March 2021, 17:17:31
I'm new to mechanical keyboards and I was wondering, if there is or will be any possibility to order these keycaps again (specifically Alphas, ISO and Icon Mods)?
I've seen A LOT of keycaps during this week and the KAT Atlantis is far the best I've seen and I love it.
Thanks in advance
Post by: joshuarubin on Sun, 21 March 2021, 17:39:51
Post by: MortalFlesh on Mon, 22 March 2021, 03:16:57
I already have notifiers on mykeyboards.eu, cannon keys and here on this thread. Is there any other channel I should watch for the announcement of the extras?
Post by: dvorcol on Mon, 22 March 2021, 03:48:46
Hello Joshua and thanks for quick reply and explanation.
I already have notifiers on mykeyboards.eu, cannon keys and here on this thread. Is there any other channel I should watch for the announcement of the extras?
You could join Ren's Discord server and follow him on Instagram. See the links in the OP. Probably good to follow him on Reddit too.
Post by: dokternik on Sun, 28 March 2021, 02:13:14
Text and Icon Mods are for sale on a few regional sites (ie: Daily Clack)
This just saved me. Was hoping to pick up Icon Mods as I got Text originally and wanted icon after. Just ordered and only cost $15 to ship to Canada from Australia.
Ugh. Thank you.
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Thu, 22 April 2021, 22:23:10
Post by: abstractgoomba on Mon, 17 May 2021, 05:09:19
Post by: hammerbrotha on Thu, 20 May 2021, 19:39:13
Hi we're halfway Q2 now, any updates regarding shipping?
I'm not sure if KAT Atlantis has hit production yet, but it's definitely gonna be a while till we hear anything about shipping. They gotta finish production first.
At the rate this set (and all other KAT sets have gone) i'd be hopeful to see this in Q3 (if that).
EDIT: see here for an update from Tyson, i wouldn't bet on receiving these in Q2.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/622468138973397022/841036374882910259/unknown.png
Post by: eibbun on Thu, 20 May 2021, 21:39:28
Hello,
I'm new to mechanical keyboards and I was wondering, if there is or will be any possibility to order these keycaps again (specifically Alphas, ISO and Icon Mods)?
i wish! i probably have to prepare to pay mm prices bc im too slow to catch extras
Post by: sevenseacat on Fri, 21 May 2021, 07:18:08
Post by: Bubblegum on Sat, 22 May 2021, 02:41:09
That said I wouldn't mind it being doubleshot.
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 27 May 2021, 14:35:33
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Fri, 28 May 2021, 09:24:01
Who said anything about it being double shot? Absolutely 0% chance. Not even remote whimsical fantasy possibility.
I don't know if we've gotten confirmation one way or the other from Ren or the vendors, but Keyreative has developed a process for doing doubleshot PBT keys in KAT profile. They offered it as an alternative (at no extra cost) to already-run GBs, and it sounds like it will be available moving forward.
The big question is which GBs, if any, will take (or have taken) that option. Atlantis could be a good candidate since it has a very dark key color paired with bright legends.
So not a whimsical fantasy.
Post by: Parva Ovis on Sat, 29 May 2021, 21:11:39
Who said anything about it being double shot? Absolutely 0% chance. Not even remote whimsical fantasy possibility.
I don't know if we've gotten confirmation one way or the other from Ren or the vendors, but Keyreative has developed a process for doing doubleshot PBT keys in KAT profile. They offered it as an alternative (at no extra cost) to already-run GBs, and it sounds like it will be available moving forward.
The big question is which GBs, if any, will take (or have taken) that option. Atlantis could be a good candidate since it has a very dark key color paired with bright legends.
So not a whimsical fantasy.
In case anyone hasn't seen it yet:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1674/0405/files/IMG_6159_400x400.gif?v=1610510850)
at https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/202101-kat (https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/202101-kat)
Post by: psxndc on Thu, 10 June 2021, 16:03:54
Who said anything about it being double shot? Absolutely 0% chance. Not even remote whimsical fantasy possibility.Care to revisit your assessment? See below.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210610/f8ec4cbb727a2c8e4cdbce19f1084cb3.jpg)
Post by: joshuarubin on Thu, 10 June 2021, 17:08:36
Post by: hammerbrotha on Thu, 10 June 2021, 20:00:38
Who said anything about it being double shot? Absolutely 0% chance. Not even remote whimsical fantasy possibility.r/agedlikemilk
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Post by: dstaar on Thu, 10 June 2021, 21:55:35
Who said anything about it being double shot? Absolutely 0% chance. Not even remote whimsical fantasy possibility.Care to revisit your assessment? See below.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210610/f8ec4cbb727a2c8e4cdbce19f1084cb3.jpg)
Just got the same notice, I am speechless.
This is NOT about a new (probably better) technique being used or not. It is breaking the original contract.
If it was said dye-sub then you should stick with dye-sub. Pls say in advance and apply your new tech with new incoming GBs.
You CANNOT "independently" decide to change it. The caused further delay is just ridiculously unacceptable :mad:
Vendor "also hope to be able to review every single kit - but have not received a commitment from Keyreative about this yet."
I would say this manufacturer better commit to this basic request.
Again, this is NOT about a new (probably better) technique. Existing GB participants are NOT a testing pool for your new tech.
This manufacturer successfully raised a flag, at least in my f**king mind!
Post by: psxndc on Thu, 10 June 2021, 22:19:08
Just got the same notice, I am speechless.You’re not wrong. The sale was for X and we’re not getting X. That’s a breach of contract. However, for me at least, double shot is preferred, so I’ll wait and see. And I don’t know who you got it from, but CannonKeys sent this out as part of their update:
This is NOT about a new (probably better) technique being used or not. It is breaking the original contract.
If it was said dye-sub then you should stick with dye-sub. Pls say in advance and apply your new tech with new incoming GBs.
You CANNOT "independently" decide to change it. The caused further delay is just ridiculously unacceptable :mad:
Vendor "also hope to be able to review every single kit - but have not received a commitment from Keyreative about this yet."
I would say this manufacturer better commit to this basic request.
Again, this is NOT about a new (probably better) technique. Existing GB participants are NOT a testing pool for your new tech.
This manufacturer successfully raised a flag, at least in my f**king mind!
Given that this is a significant change, for the next 7 days, we will allow anyone who joined any of these group buys to cancel their GB order for free - no questions asked, no fees involved. Please email support@cannonkeys.com if you’d like to cancel now. We’ll open another free cancellation window after receiving a full sample set and posting photos, for those who aren’t satisfied with the quality of those.
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 10 June 2021, 23:58:29
I can't say I'm super happy with the decision made by Keyreative to just change the tech on their own, but I'm cautiously optimistic that the end product will turn out better. More consistent, anyway. Consistency has always been my #1 bugbear with dyesub sets.
Post by: dstaar on Fri, 11 June 2021, 02:26:14
You’re not wrong. The sale was for X and we’re not getting X. That’s a breach of contract. However, for me at least, double shot is preferred, so I’ll wait and see. And I don’t know who you got it from, but CannonKeys sent this out as part of their update:
Given that this is a significant change, for the next 7 days, we will allow anyone who joined any of these group buys to cancel their GB order for free - no questions asked, no fees involved. Please email support@cannonkeys.com if you’d like to cancel now. We’ll open another free cancellation window after receiving a full sample set and posting photos, for those who aren’t satisfied with the quality of those.
I got message from CannonKeys too, exactly same. We can see CannonKeys is trying to be responsible, which is much appreciated. (and that's why we need good vendors!)
There are already people think GB is crazy, like someone pays $200+ now and gets something beautiful 1+ years later. Some people don't understand that.
We mech lovers are however OK with it b/c we like the design so much, and we are particularly willing to pay patience. We accept delay due to unexpected things, like covid ...
But I think there is a common picture in mind. If the change like that can be just thrown to us, then it means my idea of a GB and the manufacturer's idea of a GB are Not same.
I just don't want to give the impression that I *would* be ok with such rude/forced change as long as the results turn to be not bad. No, sorry.
Thanks again for vendor offering cancel. I'll take the chance. I understand you guys expecting the resulting product to be same or better, good luck!
Post by: msting on Fri, 11 June 2021, 20:34:26
They accepted WAY more orders than they knew they could handle, and then with a huge backlog of keysets already delayed, chose to shutdown production and retool to deliver a different product than was ordered... without giving the vendors the option apparently. I accept a 4-6 month Covid blip, but this has gone way beyond that. I don't want this in PBT, so have cancelled my order. Given the chance, I'll cancel KAT Iron as well. It was shortly after purchasing Iron I made the decision to not make any more purchases from Keyreative based on their delays and dubious updates. As dstaar said, "This manufacturer successfully raised a flag".
I don't expect them to catch up anytime soon, and I think in turn, vendors may (should?) stop ordering from them, and when they see the writing on the wall, may just shutdown or something. I'm very curious what they've done with the funds. I'm not sure how all that works but there's ALOT of money tied up in outstanding KAT sets.
:thumb: BIG props to CannonKeys and other vendors offering refunds. I truly hope they don't have to eat this. I imagine they may just have more extras and with the current climate, should likely sell them all. I hope so.
Post by: Visionaire on Fri, 11 June 2021, 23:21:33
Post by: Visionaire on Fri, 11 June 2021, 23:23:11
Keyreative has absolutely breached trust!
They accepted WAY more orders than they knew they could handle, and then with a huge backlog of keysets already delayed, chose to shutdown production and retool to deliver a different product than was ordered... without giving the vendors the option apparently. I accept a 4-6 month Covid blip, but this has gone way beyond that. I don't want this in PBT, so have cancelled my order. Given the chance, I'll cancel KAT Iron as well. It was shortly after purchasing Iron I made the decision to not make any more purchases from Keyreative based on their delays and dubious updates. As dstaar said, "This manufacturer successfully raised a flag".
I don't expect them to catch up anytime soon, and I think in turn, vendors may (should?) stop ordering from them, and when they see the writing on the wall, may just shutdown or something. I'm very curious what they've done with the funds. I'm not sure how all that works but there's ALOT of money tied up in outstanding KAT sets.
:thumb: BIG props to CannonKeys and other vendors offering refunds. I truly hope they don't have to eat this. I imagine they may just have more extras and with the current climate, should likely sell them all. I hope so.
I understand your concerns about delays, but I'm pretty sure it was going to be PBT either way...
Post by: catbus on Sat, 12 June 2021, 09:14:26
I, for one, am excited about the prospect of doubleshot. I think it'll be nicer than the dye subbed versions. Holding the line!I too am very excited about this possibility.
I understand why some people are upset with the added delays. But personally, I am very pleased with the amount of effort being put into ensuring the caps we get are of high quality.
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Post by: dededecline on Sat, 12 June 2021, 11:58:58
Keyreative has absolutely breached trust!
They accepted WAY more orders than they knew they could handle, and then with a huge backlog of keysets already delayed, chose to shutdown production and retool to deliver a different product than was ordered... without giving the vendors the option apparently. I accept a 4-6 month Covid blip, but this has gone way beyond that. I don't want this in PBT, so have cancelled my order. Given the chance, I'll cancel KAT Iron as well. It was shortly after purchasing Iron I made the decision to not make any more purchases from Keyreative based on their delays and dubious updates. As dstaar said, "This manufacturer successfully raised a flag".
I don't expect them to catch up anytime soon, and I think in turn, vendors may (should?) stop ordering from them, and when they see the writing on the wall, may just shutdown or something. I'm very curious what they've done with the funds. I'm not sure how all that works but there's ALOT of money tied up in outstanding KAT sets.
:thumb: BIG props to CannonKeys and other vendors offering refunds. I truly hope they don't have to eat this. I imagine they may just have more extras and with the current climate, should likely sell them all. I hope so.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/031/425/Screen_Shot_2019-10-09_at_10.41.04_AM.png)
Post by: Suds on Sat, 12 June 2021, 20:11:16
I don't want this in PBT, so have cancelled my order.
The first post doesn't specify, but was there ever a claim that this was going to be anything other than PBT? KAT is PBT-only, as far as I know, and this set just screams reverse dye-sub.
Post by: Visionaire on Sat, 12 June 2021, 20:31:11
I don't want this in PBT, so have cancelled my order.
The first post doesn't specify, but was there ever a claim that this was going to be anything other than PBT? KAT is PBT-only, as far as I know, and this set just screams reverse dye-sub.
Yeah, I'm not sure what they were expecting originally, but if PBT is a deal breaker ... I'm glad they got their refund now.
Post by: msting on Sun, 13 June 2021, 10:03:56
Big mea culpa here. :confused:
I did not realize these were PBT to start. Had to go back to IC to confirm. [must do research before flipping out online]
Still, with the delays, I'm glad I cancelled. I'm very dubious about Keyreative business practices at this point.
Post by: leossin2013 on Mon, 14 June 2021, 01:11:31
Any chance this set will have r2?
Post by: psxndc on Mon, 14 June 2021, 01:15:32
Hi there,Given how popular this was, it is very likely there will be extras when r1 arrives.
Any chance this set will have r2?
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 14 June 2021, 02:53:10
Who said anything about it being double shot? Absolutely 0% chance. Not even remote whimsical fantasy possibility.Care to revisit your assessment? See below.
Sorry, too busy eating my words at the moment... :eek:
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 14 June 2021, 02:58:36
DailyClack gave the same refund window as part of their update.
I've gotten no email from them about this. Please tell me they don't only post updates to a discord server or similar...
Post by: sevenseacat on Mon, 14 June 2021, 09:19:46
DailyClack gave the same refund window as part of their update.
I've gotten no email from them about this. Please tell me they don't only post updates to a discord server or similar...
Yes, they post updates on their Discord. I've pushed them to do email updates, but no...
Post by: Neely_12 on Mon, 14 June 2021, 14:22:43
Post by: Kleekey on Sun, 20 June 2021, 13:24:02
Post by: rockydbull on Sun, 20 June 2021, 13:49:30
How do I get my hands on a mat?
try mechmarket. I am sure there are people who have the deskmat and just canceled their sets.
Post by: Kleekey on Sun, 20 June 2021, 19:16:22
How do I get my hands on a mat?
try mechmarket. I am sure there are people who have the deskmat and just canceled their sets.
Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
Post by: ThomasLT on Wed, 23 June 2021, 11:42:52
Post by: LexProf on Sun, 04 July 2021, 22:36:07
Post by: thicthock on Mon, 05 July 2021, 08:03:11
I think, apart from vendors not working with Keyreative, we as purchasers should just stop purchasing Kat and Kam sets. They won't meet MOQ, and maybe the vendors and Keyreative will take a hint. Designers should avoid for a long while too. I'm already in on a Kat and a Kam, and have serious doubts about when I'll get them and what they'll look like, if I get them at all.
the problem is that gmk isnt doing much better with delivery times sadly.
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 06 July 2021, 19:52:18
I think, apart from vendors not working with Keyreative, we as purchasers should just stop purchasing Kat and Kam sets. They won't meet MOQ, and maybe the vendors and Keyreative will take a hint. Designers should avoid for a long while too. I'm already in on a Kat and a Kam, and have serious doubts about when I'll get them and what they'll look like, if I get them at all.
I'm for around 8 different KAT sets with group buy dates ranging from well over a year ago to Slurp and Space Dust most recently. So far the only one supposedly close to delivery is KAT Cyberspace. It's going to really suck if I hate the profile after all the waiting...
Post by: Buster69 on Sun, 11 July 2021, 08:47:41
"
[PSA] KAT Space Cadet
It has come to our attention that Keyreative / zFrontier have shipped some if not all KAT Space Cadet orders out to customers in China and possibly beyond China. Unfortunately, none of these kits have been signed off on by the designers of the sets yet. As such we can't guarantee that the quality of the sets shipped are up to our standards.
Under normal circumstances Keyreative / zFrontier would have shipped sample sets out to the designers for final approval. Due to this complete breakdown of process we find ourselves in an impossible position. While we really want to make sure KAT Space Cadet gets into the hands of customers, we currently have no idea if the quality of the product lives up to the expectations of the designers.
When we were made aware that these sets had been shipped out to customers in China, we immediately took action to halt shipping. We've been promised that the sample sets will be shipped out to us and the designers this coming Monday. zFrontier has reportedly halted shipping of KAT Space Cadet.
We aim to get these samples to the designers for approval ASAP so we can get shipping started as soon as possible.
- MKUltra Corporation
"
Post by: Xherion on Sun, 11 July 2021, 09:16:18
Is Space Cadet and Atlantis next in line?
Post by: Buster69 on Sun, 11 July 2021, 10:46:42
That sounds scary omg
Is Space Cadet and Atlantis next in line?
Not sure about the queue order, maybe someone else in here does.
What a fun group buy this has become haha
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 11 July 2021, 15:45:00
That sounds scary omg
Is Space Cadet and Atlantis next in line?
let's say keyreactive said that. Would you believe them?
Post by: MediocreTurtle on Sun, 08 August 2021, 14:57:04
Post by: gaiden on Wed, 11 August 2021, 21:37:48
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 11 August 2021, 21:55:15
man I committed quite a few KAT sets myself and already felt like I walked into a big GB scam of my life... no updates what so ever. Anyways to get our money back?
Write your vendor. I know people in the states who have gotten out of this.
Post by: radditer on Sat, 04 September 2021, 08:04:01
Post by: hammerbrotha on Sun, 05 September 2021, 00:31:13
Any updates?Discord has the most up to date info but there hasn't been anything new for 2 months or so.
At this point, I'm not expecting to have this in my hands this calendar year. See everyone in 2022! Wonder if we hit 2 years on this.
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Post by: Oni74 on Thu, 23 September 2021, 15:34:43
I don't understand how/why some KAT sets appear to be moving forward while others are stuck in limbo. And why do GB runners and proxies keep selling KAT sets when the vendor makes unilateral decisions, doesn't communicate, nor meet timelines for manufacturing? Sorry if this sounds like ranting, but I'm flabbergasted at the sheer ridiculousness of the situation. I understand this hobby requires patience, but this level of radio silence is abnormal.
Post by: asciisii on Thu, 23 September 2021, 16:33:50
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Sat, 25 September 2021, 08:46:30
@rensuya have you any communication on status and updated time for shipping? It's been over 3 months since last update on Cannonkey's website, so I'm wondering if I missed something posted elsewhere.
I don't understand how/why some KAT sets appear to be moving forward while others are stuck in limbo. And why do GB runners and proxies keep selling KAT sets when the vendor makes unilateral decisions, doesn't communicate, nor meet timelines for manufacturing? Sorry if this sounds like ranting, but I'm flabbergasted at the sheer ridiculousness of the situation. I understand this hobby requires patience, but this level of radio silence is abnormal.
I can speak to part of this. KAT sets that are still dye-sublimated are moving forward (slowly). KAT sets that Keyreative decided to convert to doubleshot are in a separate queue.
So you will probably continue to see more KAT deliveries simply because they are being worked on in parallel. The dye sublimated pipeline is distinct.
Post by: Swishy on Sat, 25 September 2021, 10:17:31
A nightmare group buy, and I'm not really blaming Rensuya either - this is on Keyreative and the vendors. Atlantis is the only KAT set I've bought, and will stay that way until it delivers and whether it was worth the wait quality wise.May not seem like it now but them switching the queue was done in your benefit. With almost every rensuya set hitting super high number, and other sets hitting almost just as high. His sets alone were eating up much of the dyesub Queue. Keep this in mind both KAT and KAM go into the same queue, also to make these new molds is quite expensive. Sure it sucks that you have to wait for new molds to be perfected, but the overall outcome should have less legend placement issues, more vibrant colors, and overall pretty freaking cool. I do agree their way of going about it was...but it has good intentions for everyone.
Post by: asciisii on Sat, 25 September 2021, 12:20:19
A nightmare group buy, and I'm not really blaming Rensuya either - this is on Keyreative and the vendors. Atlantis is the only KAT set I've bought, and will stay that way until it delivers and whether it was worth the wait quality wise.May not seem like it now but them switching the queue was done in your benefit. With almost every rensuya set hitting super high number, and other sets hitting almost just as high. His sets alone were eating up much of the dyesub Queue. Keep this in mind both KAT and KAM go into the same queue, also to make these new molds is quite expensive. Sure it sucks that you have to wait for new molds to be perfected, but the overall outcome should have less legend placement issues, more vibrant colors, and overall pretty freaking cool. I do agree their way of going about it was...but it has good intentions for everyone.
I completely agree, I do hope we get a pristine product with Keyreative's new doubleshot process. I'm pretty understanding with my other participated GBs going past/far past ETAs, but this one in particular seems to be a bit of a sore spot for me. Fingers crossed it all turns out well and we see this in the next 6-8 months - now I wish I picked up more kits considering the wait.
Post by: Buster69 on Wed, 20 October 2021, 16:18:10
Post by: PancakeGoon on Wed, 20 October 2021, 23:17:15
Soooo, update?
Last official update I've seen from Key was from one of their Reps regarding KAT Cyberspace, on the 15th. That's been the sole focus of production this past two months or so.
So, at the time of the update (October 15th), Cyberspace was at around ~90% manufacturing completion, but the real meat & potatoes of the check-in was to let us know about another small delay - due to power restrictions and the national Holiday - but supposedly the last until shipping starts. And finally; to expect all units to be sorted & packed by month's end, possibly early November. But realistically, just lean towards the latter for your own sanity...
Then they can start pumping out the next set in the queue. 🙃
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 21 October 2021, 10:53:32
Soooo, update?
Last official update I've seen from Key was from one of their Reps regarding KAT Cyberspace, on the 15th. That's been the sole focus of production this past two months or so.
So, at the time of the update (October 15th), Cyberspace was at around ~90% manufacturing completion, but the real meat & potatoes of the check-in was to let us know about another small delay - due to power restrictions and the national Holiday - but supposedly the last until shipping starts. And finally; to expect all units to be sorted & packed by month's end, possibly early November. But realistically, just lean towards the latter for your own sanity...
Then they can start pumping out the next set in the queue. 🙃
The problem is if they just start pumping, without actually having had samples been approved by the designer. Which starts to feel more and more likely. But I hope that's not the case.
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Thu, 21 October 2021, 11:41:49
Soooo, update?
Last official update I've seen from Key was from one of their Reps regarding KAT Cyberspace, on the 15th. That's been the sole focus of production this past two months or so.
So, at the time of the update (October 15th), Cyberspace was at around ~90% manufacturing completion, but the real meat & potatoes of the check-in was to let us know about another small delay - due to power restrictions and the national Holiday - but supposedly the last until shipping starts. And finally; to expect all units to be sorted & packed by month's end, possibly early November. But realistically, just lean towards the latter for your own sanity...
Then they can start pumping out the next set in the queue. 🙃
KAT Cyberspace is in a separate queue from Atlantis.
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 21 October 2021, 12:30:37
Soooo, update?
Last official update I've seen from Key was from one of their Reps regarding KAT Cyberspace, on the 15th. That's been the sole focus of production this past two months or so.
So, at the time of the update (October 15th), Cyberspace was at around ~90% manufacturing completion, but the real meat & potatoes of the check-in was to let us know about another small delay - due to power restrictions and the national Holiday - but supposedly the last until shipping starts. And finally; to expect all units to be sorted & packed by month's end, possibly early November. But realistically, just lean towards the latter for your own sanity...
Then they can start pumping out the next set in the queue. 🙃
KAT Cyberspace is in a separate queue from Atlantis.
Because KAT Atlantis, KAT Explosion, and KAT Mizu are now double-shot, while KAT Cyberspace is dye sub.
Post by: Buster69 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 14:54:06
Post by: Louwii on Tue, 26 October 2021, 18:03:58
Post by: ShadeDream on Thu, 04 November 2021, 15:06:26
Post by: CaptPap on Fri, 05 November 2021, 03:56:41
Post by: YMwoo on Fri, 05 November 2021, 21:08:50
I do wonder how long it will be until I regret not opting for that full refund they offered in the middle of 2021.
This is me too.
However, I've been trying to find alternative but it's so hard since I need ergo kit and it's almost impossible to find one with good color, great kitting, and not blank.
I've been checking every upcoming sets and I never able to find something that checks all 3.
Post by: Buster69 on Sat, 06 November 2021, 15:47:30
Totally agree with you guys, we should get an email update or something every couple of months or so. Anything is better than sitting in the dark. Bets on Q2 2022?
Post by: Rensuya on Fri, 12 November 2021, 16:25:17
Sorry for the radio silence here but currently I am waiting on the new PBT samples of this set to come.
Current ETA: Q4 2021
Post by: joshuarubin on Fri, 12 November 2021, 16:31:49
Current ETA: Q4 2021
I presume that's the sample eta, not the shipping eta?
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 12 November 2021, 16:49:26
Post by: Buster69 on Tue, 16 November 2021, 12:55:42
Unclear how they’d be able to get the sample out, have it approved, manufacture all of it and ship it even w the shoddy standards seen for KAT Space Cadet. Presumably just a sample this year if that.
Right lol, there is no chance this ships in 2021... 💩
Post by: Oni74 on Wed, 17 November 2021, 14:40:02
- Samples arrive in Dec 2021; If samples are good enough, then green light for production
- 2 months for production and packing (end of Feb-early Mar; take CNY into account)
- 2 months for shipping to vendors (mid-Mar through mid-may; hopefully nothing gets stuck on a ship)
- 2-3 weeks Vendors ship to individual customer (end of May/early Jun)
therefore end of Q2 2022 is the earliest we can expect delivery. Does this look right to everyone?
Post by: dvorcol on Wed, 17 November 2021, 17:00:47
so my takeaway from the recent update is:
- Samples arrive in Dec 2021; If samples are good enough, then green light for production
- 2 months for production and packing (end of Feb-early Mar; take CNY into account)
- 2 months for shipping to vendors (mid-Mar through mid-may; hopefully nothing gets stuck on a ship)
- 2-3 weeks Vendors ship to individual customer (end of May/early Jun)
therefore end of Q2 2022 is the earliest we can expect delivery. Does this look right to everyone?
KAT Atlantis, KAT Explosion, and KAT Mizu are switching from dye sub to double-shot. It's difficult to predict ETA for these sets since Keyreative's double-shot production method is still in development.
Post by: bombay.duck on Sun, 26 December 2021, 22:11:09
Hey guys,
Sorry for the radio silence here but currently I am waiting on the new PBT samples of this set to come.
Current ETA: Q4 2021
Curious if the samples ever arrived since it is the end of Q4 2021.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 26 December 2021, 22:16:31
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 06 January 2022, 13:58:51
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Post by: tigers on Sun, 13 February 2022, 10:10:50
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KAT Atlantis doubleshot samples are in hand - and they look great!
Post by: sevenseacat on Wed, 16 February 2022, 03:05:04
Post by: svenge on Mon, 21 February 2022, 00:03:28
Post by: dokternik on Thu, 24 February 2022, 17:24:10
But. How the heck are they gonna do that space-bar novelty...? notice it isn't shown?
Post by: Buster69 on Tue, 22 March 2022, 19:50:39
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 22 March 2022, 23:02:36
Can we get an official update of some kind? What's the ETA?
Nothing new from the discord since the last time I posted. Rensuya hasn’t been here in 4 months and didn’t even post the samples here himself. Last official word from keyreactive was that they’d be done manufacturing this month, but no one’s seen a sample nov for the spacebar nor corrections for the errors on the previous round of samples. People on discord had asked for additional photos of the samples to get a sense of consistency which has been lacking in previous KAT sets and we didn’t get that either.
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 23 March 2022, 11:07:45
Post by: Mr Chrome on Wed, 23 March 2022, 14:25:14
The main thing I'm still annoyed about is being unable to get an answer from anyone about if these are still really PBT or if it is a "PBT-like" mix which every other double-shot "PBT" set I've ever tried has been in reality. It's the difference between the durability of real PBT verses something which is going to shine like ABS after a few months of use.Yeah, me too. Some of the cracks in the sample caps really make me wonder about the material. The rest looks very promising, but there’s no way of knowing how they’ll hold up over time. I guess that’s true for any caps from all new manufacturers though, doubleshot or dyesub.
Still, seems less dire than HSA.
Post by: In0cenT on Fri, 22 April 2022, 01:56:52
Post by: helborne on Fri, 22 April 2022, 08:16:54
Post by: In0cenT on Mon, 25 April 2022, 02:09:38
I pop on this thread now and again to see how many ways people attempt to spell Keyreative. Not disappointed.
You got me there.
Post by: sevenseacat on Tue, 10 May 2022, 09:25:00
Post by: Tyson on Tue, 10 May 2022, 09:31:49
According to ZFrontier, they started domestic shipping a few weeks ago. Thought we'd at least see some pictures by now...
People have been posting a few pics in Rensuya's discord, let me post them on here.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/622468138973397022/973382135727665172/IMG_8745.jpg)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/622468138973397022/969276753933635694/unknown.png)
Post by: sevenseacat on Wed, 11 May 2022, 10:35:00
Post by: eddyjim on Mon, 16 May 2022, 01:12:34
This second one looks cool, from where i can get itAccording to ZFrontier, they started domestic shipping a few weeks ago. Thought we'd at least see some pictures by now...
People have been posting a few pics in Rensuya's discord, let me post them on here.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/622468138973397022/973382135727665172/IMG_8745.jpg)Show Image(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/622468138973397022/969276753933635694/unknown.png)
Post by: asciisii on Sun, 29 May 2022, 13:47:45
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 29 May 2022, 13:53:58
Post by: long_qt_pie on Sun, 29 May 2022, 14:43:17
Post by: ZippoPotamme on Wed, 01 June 2022, 11:56:06
Post by: Jignoni on Mon, 13 June 2022, 08:56:05
Post by: Adelscott on Tue, 14 June 2022, 15:44:59
could i get a invite to the discord?
https://discord.gg/dSMWUHgb (https://discord.gg/dSMWUHgb)
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 14 June 2022, 18:06:26
Full update here - https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/recovering-from-the-lockdown
Post by: Buster69 on Tue, 14 June 2022, 19:03:06
FYI, zFrontier issued an update June 2 stating it might be 1-2 months before all other vendors receive their KAT Atlantis orders. Same for KAT Lala and KAT Iron.
Full update here - https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/recovering-from-the-lockdown
So potentially another two to six weeks before atlantis is received by vendors (in the states). Then it takes about a month for vendors to package and ship? If that is correct, then we are looking at six to ten weeks to have them in hand, that's roughly August 1st through September 1st. Does this track?
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 15 June 2022, 00:59:18
Post by: YMwoo on Fri, 01 July 2022, 19:10:08
I received my Atlantis 2 weeks ago and I though my wait is finished but turned out my Korean Alphas kit missing 1 keycap. The ㅍ key.
Post by: Adelscott on Tue, 05 July 2022, 17:14:42
Post by: Buster69 on Wed, 06 July 2022, 13:28:17
Post by: mamiro on Wed, 27 July 2022, 03:38:21
Post by: svenge on Fri, 29 July 2022, 10:50:51
Post by: Adelscott on Sun, 31 July 2022, 05:15:01
Post by: Joaquox on Mon, 01 August 2022, 10:21:46
(https://i.redd.it/egqzryelc4f91.jpg)
Post by: phinix on Mon, 01 August 2022, 10:42:41
Ultimately I ended up cancelling my atlantis order last minute. Made the decision based on how disappointing KAT Cyberspace was- think I'm just done with the KAT profile at this point, I always end up back on GMK or SA after a week of KAT, and storage for KAT sets is so annoying with all the extra profile keys. For everyone that stuck it out, I hope the double shot turns out great. The colors in the photos so far look pretty good. Maybe I'll regret cancelling. But probably not. At least I have the deskmat which tbh is one of my favs.
I'm finally getting my KAT Cyberspace this week.
Delays plus mykeyboard.eu not having UK VAT caused all this.
Post by: sevenseacat on Mon, 01 August 2022, 10:49:44
Corners on both teal numpad enters have blue protruding through. Another disappointment from Keyreative!Show Image(https://i.redd.it/egqzryelc4f91.jpg)
Someone on Discord had this same thing, and they contacted support that said to wipe it off with some alcohol and it worked. No need to yell at Keyreative so quickly.
Post by: Joaquox on Mon, 01 August 2022, 10:52:26
Quickly? I waited over two years for this, I'll yell however I please at this point, thank you very much.Corners on both teal numpad enters have blue protruding through. Another disappointment from Keyreative!Show Image(https://i.redd.it/egqzryelc4f91.jpg)
Someone on Discord had this same thing, and they contacted support that said to wipe it off with some alcohol and it worked. No need to yell at Keyreative so quickly.
Post by: sevenseacat on Mon, 01 August 2022, 23:51:48
Quickly? I waited over two years for this, I'll yell however I please at this point, thank you very much.Corners on both teal numpad enters have blue protruding through. Another disappointment from Keyreative!Show Image(https://i.redd.it/egqzryelc4f91.jpg)
Someone on Discord had this same thing, and they contacted support that said to wipe it off with some alcohol and it worked. No need to yell at Keyreative so quickly.
Did the blue bits wipe off with some alcohol?
Post by: th3_outs1d3r on Tue, 23 August 2022, 22:40:24
Post by: Narf on Tue, 23 August 2022, 23:04:13
I know the GB is closed (and I joined it). If the order hasn't yet been made final to the printers, here are some recommendations for your Ergo kit:So apparently these changes were made. All the thumbs cluster 1u keys are R2 instead of R1 like in the kitting information. Kind of annoying actually, because now I can't use the thumb keys on the bottom row of my Boardwalk like I wanted to. I think making thumb keys R2 is definitely the right call, I just use Ergodoxian boards that don't have all of the 1u keys in the thumb cluster. I wish there were a few more of the thumb key symbols on available for R1. Now I'm kind of wishing that I bought a 40s/Ortho now for the accented Enter key on R2 and the additional R1 mods.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105714.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105714.0)
Given that you probably won't want to alter the legends or total key count at this stage, the most important takeaway is that all the 1u keys in the thumb clusters should be R2, not R1. Likewise, all vertical 1.5u keys should be R2.
Otherwise, those lower keys are just going to be a series of sharp edges for an Ergodox user's thumbs.
Otherwise, the set looks and feels nice. Glad I finally got to try this profile. I think I like it more than MT3 or SA. Can't decide If I like this or KAM better. Also still can't decide if I like DSA or KAM better.
Post by: HaX on Fri, 02 September 2022, 13:50:53
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