Author Topic: Double shot replacements ROUND THREE: Vote for Kits & Quantities! (Read 1004051 times)

Evil_Spork · « **Reply #5200 on:** Fri, 19 August 2011, 02:10:04 »

So are we going to get our incorrectly made/mirrored look of disapproval keys replaced by SP, or do we have to buy another to have the proper look?

Equilibrium · « **Reply #5201 on:** Fri, 19 August 2011, 05:08:46 »

i would like to have that information too.

itlnstln · « **Reply #5202 on:** Fri, 19 August 2011, 10:07:23 »

I've been away for a while. Has this GB shipped yet? I hope I didn't miss it.

litster · « **Reply #5203 on:** Fri, 19 August 2011, 11:07:53 »

iMav said a few weeks ago that all orders are shipped.

Evil_Spork · « **Reply #5204 on:** Fri, 19 August 2011, 16:21:32 »

Quote from: ripster;401699

Lol.

lol?

Evil_Spork · « **Reply #5205 on:** Sat, 20 August 2011, 18:32:14 »

So no fix for the mirrored LoD keys?

Soarer · « **Reply #5206 on:** Sat, 20 August 2011, 19:18:31 »

I'm not sure if 7bit ever even looks at this thread any more!

xbb · « **Reply #5207 on:** Mon, 22 August 2011, 12:41:45 »

Order #261 received it today, missing CLEARBLANKFUN set, the other keycaps look good so far. Sent you a PM 7bit

vinlloyd · « **Reply #5208 on:** Mon, 22 August 2011, 23:24:52 »

order #111 received, 10q imav and 7bit

WaffleIron · « **Reply #5209 on:** Tue, 23 August 2011, 06:41:01 »

Order #050 still missing... ****ty mail service? i've given up on this ever happening.. $100+ out of the window.. Great!

7bit · « **Reply #5210 on:** Tue, 23 August 2011, 08:29:03 »

Quote from: Soarer;400018

Please can anyone affected by keys that don't fit (caps lock, spacenew...) vote in this poll.

Just voted that the replacements can be sent along with the Round 4 stuff

I had to cut off the SYMBOL key myself and I'm using the \KL key as backspace on my Tipro, btw.

I'm also missing 4 of 5 row 4 Tux keys, BTW.

As for the space bar: I'm using a 1.5 units blank key as space on my Tipro, so don't be so picky about your wrong 6 units space bar.

:-)

PS: If somone is still missng keys, please write me a message.

7bit · « **Reply #5211 on:** Tue, 23 August 2011, 08:49:56 »

Quote from: itlnstln;401627

I've been away for a while. Has this GB shipped yet? I hope I didn't miss it.

Not at all!

We still figure out what styles, kits and keys we want.

We just moved over to a new thread:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?20485-Double-shot-replacements-ROUND-FOUR!

Quote from: Soarer;402450

I'm not sure if 7bit ever even looks at this thread any more!

I could resist looking at this thread for quite a while, but now I came back looking ...

Ekaros · « **Reply #5212 on:** Tue, 23 August 2011, 08:59:51 »

Quote from: 7bit;403786

Not at all!

We still figure out what styles, kits and keys we want.

We just moved over to a new thread:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?20485-Double-shot-replacements-ROUND-FOUR!

So what were those two boxes I got?

Still would be nice to have stepped capslock for filco...

7bit · « **Reply #5213 on:** Tue, 23 August 2011, 09:07:48 »

Quote from: Ekaros;403791

So what were those two boxes I got?

Still would be nice to have stepped capslock for filco...

Samples of the ROUND3 kit!

Stepped Caps Lock is technically impossible (except you make it yourself).

Soarer · « **Reply #5214 on:** Tue, 23 August 2011, 09:32:53 »

Quote from: 7bit;403778

Just voted that the replacements can be sent along with the Round 4 stuff

I had to cut off the SYMBOL key myself and I'm using the \KL key as backspace on my Tipro, btw.

I'm also missing 4 of 5 row 4 Tux keys, BTW.

As for the space bar: I'm using a 1.5 units blank key as space on my Tipro, so don't be so picky about your wrong 6 units space bar.

:-)

I don't see how your Tipro spacebar or backspace is relevant to any of the mistakes SP made.

Or to the way we've had zero communication from you for two months on when the worst mistakes might get fixed.

If only it was just one wrong 6 units spacebar.
ALL of the keyboards that I wanted to use the doubleshots and blanks on require a 6 units spacebar - I ordered EIGHT of them in all.

Playing down my complaint is just plain rude. And even more so if it was meant as a joke.

I limited my poll to just the keys that are disastrously wrong, because that would minimize the work needed, and would at least get usable keys to those who need them.

At the beginning of July you said you would try to get the caps locks sorted out ASAP, so what happened?

7bit · « **Reply #5215 on:** Tue, 23 August 2011, 10:25:21 »

Quote from: Soarer;403811

I don't see how your Tipro spacebar or backspace is relevant to any of the mistakes SP made.

Or to the way we've had zero communication from you for two months on when the worst mistakes might get fixed.

If only it was just one wrong 6 units spacebar.
ALL of the keyboards that I wanted to use the doubleshots and blanks on require a 6 units spacebar - I ordered EIGHT of them in all.

Playing down my complaint is just plain rude. And even more so if it was meant as a joke.

I limited my poll to just the keys that are disastrously wrong, because that would minimize the work needed, and would at least get usable keys to those who need them.

At the beginning of July you said you would try to get the caps locks sorted out ASAP, so what happened?

OK, and who pays for the extra shipping?

I'm quite sure to get the key caps in a reasonable amount of time. A big box would arrive at iMavs distribution centre. And then?

Edit:

Just read that with those 8 space bars!

I'm deeply shocked. I had no idea! I thought it would be just one of a zillion of keyboards whcih would not get its proper space bar.

I will see what I can do about that specfic thing ...

Soarer · « **Reply #5216 on:** Tue, 23 August 2011, 11:18:04 »

Quote from: 7bit;403844

OK, and who pays for the extra shipping?

I'm quite sure to get the key caps in a reasonable amount of time. A big box would arrive at iMavs distribution centre. And then?

Edit:

Just read that with those 8 space bars!

I'm deeply shocked. I had no idea! I thought it would be just one of a zillion of keyboards whcih would not get its proper space bar.

I will see what I can do about that specfic thing ...

Thank-you! You see my point! :-)

I presume that every SPACENEW space bar was wrong (CLEAR, BLACK, and GREY certainly are). Partly this may be our fault though - our diagram shows the switch stem in the wrong place. Any of us could/should have spotted it and had it corrected. But the stabilizer stems are clearly SP's fault (if that was the diagram they were given).

I don't mind paying some extra shipping! If we got fixed keys to iMav (or someone), then at least people could choose whether to pay for shipping to get them soon, or wait til round 4 ships. (I imagine that a lot of people aren't too worried about the stepped caps lock, since it doesn't affect Filco, Leopold etc, so would be happy to wait).

Hell, I don't even mind paying for the new keys, if it's our fault. But I can't do that alone, I need your leverage with them after placing such a large order, to get a reasonable price! Unfortunately the required SPACENEW are a variety of colours, with not very many of each (judging by the last statistics email).

Please can you consider the stepped caps lock as well, and perhaps the unstepped-but-offset keys too ([strike]although I haven't noticed anybody particularly bothered by them yet[/strike] particularly colemak backspace).

soulfree914 · « **Reply #5217 on:** Mon, 29 August 2011, 03:53:58 »

If anyone has an extra REDBLANKMOD or WHITEBLANKALP set to sell, plz let me know.
Any gamer sets are welcomed too.

Soarer · « **Reply #5218 on:** Mon, 29 August 2011, 09:10:29 »

Quote from: 7bit;403844

I will see what I can do about that specfic thing ...

Any news?

Any thoughts on my last post, re shipping?

Minskleip · « **Reply #5219 on:** Mon, 29 August 2011, 16:39:51 »

I just noticed that the 9 on the numpad numeric set is just 6 upside down. Interesting

soulfree914 · « **Reply #5220 on:** Mon, 29 August 2011, 23:18:40 »

Sorry about another WTB post, but this is probably the ideal place to ask this..

If anyone has an extra REDBLANKMOD to sell, plz let me know. (FULL BLANKS are ok as well)
Any gamer sets are welcomed too.
PM me if you have any of the above. thx.

gilgam · « **Reply #5221 on:** Tue, 30 August 2011, 04:55:58 »

maybe you should podt this in the classified section ;-)

7bit · « **Reply #5222 on:** Tue, 30 August 2011, 09:53:43 »

Quote from: Minskleip;407063

I just noticed that the 9 on the numpad numeric set is just 6 upside down. Interesting

I've noticed these things, too!

1, I and | are all the same.

0 and O are also very similar. I believe they are cutting costs this way. They do the label once and then use it for as many keys as possible, even if in reality it is not the same letter. No wonder, sometimes labels get mirrored or upside down ...

I got a message that they will re-do most of the wrong keys including the too big Apple key and the off-center Caps Lock keys.

I'm not sure about the awesome face.

dewaere · « **Reply #5223 on:** Tue, 30 August 2011, 10:18:21 »

I also missed that sexy round four GB :[

One fr kit in stock by the merest chance?

gilgam · « **Reply #5224 on:** Tue, 30 August 2011, 12:50:21 »

are you looking for a FR kit from group buy 3 ?
i have one spare

hashbaz · « **Reply #5225 on:** Tue, 30 August 2011, 13:11:57 »

Quote from: dewaere;407400

I also missed that sexy round four GB :[

One fr kit in stock by the merest chance?

Round 4 is still in the planning stages. Or did you mean round 3?

dewaere · « **Reply #5226 on:** Tue, 30 August 2011, 15:46:35 »

Quote from: gilgam;407542

are you looking for a FR kit from group buy 3 ?
i have one spare

Yep! pm me!

dewaere · « **Reply #5227 on:** Tue, 30 August 2011, 15:47:40 »

Quote from: gilgam;407542

are you looking for a FR kit from group buy 3 ?
i have one spare

Yep! pm me!

EDIT: I'm also looking for the whole 104 keys, if someone would like to sell it...

Quote from: hashbaz;407560

Round 4 is still in the planning stages. Or did you mean round 3?

Ye sorry, I meant round three

Soarer · « **Reply #5228 on:** Tue, 30 August 2011, 16:20:12 »

Quote from: ripster;406844

Don't forget me.

Impossible.

Quote from: ripster;406844

Or at least an answer as to whether it ended up being our screwup or theirs.
(Attachment Link) 25274[/ATTACH]

Corrrect orientation (From Deus Ex)
(Attachment Link) 25275[/ATTACH]

Sounds like you might be in luck! ...

Quote from: 7bit;407381

I got a message that they will re-do most of the wrong keys including the too big Apple key and the off-center Caps Lock keys.

I'm not sure about the awesome face.

That sounds promising, thanks 7bit!

xis · « **Reply #5229 on:** Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:51:50 »

am i the only one who hasnt received my shipment yet.....

invoice #272 (australia)

WaffleIron · « **Reply #5230 on:** Thu, 08 September 2011, 06:01:27 »

I finally recieved my keys(some of them....) the shipping label said they shipped 08.08.2011

I'm still a bit pissed that I only got one SC2 Terran Key in esc. size and not two in win key size(random key is also missing one random key, same size error as the terran key)... Never joining a group buy again. I understand the complications of organizing group buys.. But it shouldn't take over 6 months no matter how custom made the keys are.

vhaarr · « **Reply #5231 on:** Thu, 08 September 2011, 06:04:56 »

Thank you 7bit and iMav for all the good and hard work you've done and I must say I am very pleased

litster · « **Reply #5232 on:** Thu, 08 September 2011, 09:33:51 »

Quote from: WaffleIron;412540

I finally recieved my keys(some of them....) the shipping label said they shipped 08.08.2011

I'm still a bit pissed that I only got one SC2 Terran Key in esc. size and not two in win key size(random key is also missing one random key, same size error as the terran key)... Never joining a group buy again. I understand the complications of organizing group buys.. But it shouldn't take over 6 months no matter how custom made the keys are.

WaffleIron, sorry that it took a month for the postal service to deliver your keys. 7bit and iMav don't do group buys for a living. It is not even their part time job. It is thier hobby. SP did screw up the order like didn't make enough Terran keys. But you are not buying keys from Amazon.

If you think it should never take 6 months to do, why don't you do it? If you do it, it should only take a couple of weeks, right? Maybe we will get the Round 4 keys before 7bit is back from his 3-week vacation?

itlnstln · « **Reply #5233 on:** Thu, 08 September 2011, 09:40:07 »

I think there is a (excellent, IMO) "benchmark" out there from the first SP group buy done by White Rice. He put the design out there, people signed up and paid, product was shipped and the turn around was quick. When you start adding voting, choice, complaining, etc., it really draws out the process. Either this is understood, or the voting, choice, etc. gets reduced/eliminated. Knowing how fickle the GH group is, you're always better off by offering something and letting people just buy it (because they will) instead of trying to garner everyone's input.

hashbaz · « **Reply #5234 on:** Thu, 08 September 2011, 11:28:00 »

Quote from: itlnstln;412639

I think there is a (excellent, IMO) "benchmark" out there from the first SP group buy done by White Rice. He put the design out there, people signed up and paid, product was shipped and the turn around was quick. When you start adding voting, choice, complaining, etc., it really draws out the process. Either this is understood, or the voting, choice, etc. gets reduced/eliminated. Knowing how fickle the GH group is, you're always better off by offering something and letting people just buy it (because they will) instead of trying to garner everyone's input.

I feel like there are group buys, and then there is the Group Buy. You can just say "Round 3" around here and everyone knows what you mean. Isn't it true that R3's prices were as low as they were because of the hugeness and variety of the order? Would all the smaller group buys it absorbed have happened without it?

Regular old group buys should definitely be run like, "this is what I'm getting, buy in if you're interested". But I like that we have the One Group Buy to Rule Them All lumbering along to provide interesting full sets at a reasonable price.

Minskleip · « **Reply #5235 on:** Thu, 08 September 2011, 13:36:58 »

Quote from: vhaarr;412541

Thank you 7bit and iMav for all the good and hard work you've done and I must say I am very pleased

Indeed! The POS keys are so ****ing swell!

soulfree914 · « **Reply #5236 on:** Sat, 10 September 2011, 15:09:27 »

Hey, anybody want to sell your unused keycaps from Round3?
If so, plz PM me. Thanks!

Kelsin · « **Reply #5237 on:** Thu, 29 September 2011, 06:26:04 »

I just scanned this thread again for any update about wrong keys / missing terran keys. Anyone know what's happening with this? I'm missing my terrn mod keys and one of my ]} keys on my standard set is upside down.

Soarer · « **Reply #5238 on:** Fri, 14 October 2011, 05:15:55 »

Quote from: Soarer;407652

Quote from: 7bit;407381
I got a message that they will re-do most of the wrong keys including the too big Apple key and the off-center Caps Lock keys.

I'm not sure about the awesome face.

That sounds promising, thanks 7bit!

Bah, trolled by 7bit again. What a stem-teaser :-(

7bit · « **Reply #5239 on:** Fri, 14 October 2011, 07:01:04 »

Quote from: Soarer;430811

Bah, trolled by 7bit again. What a stem-teaser :-(

The problem is that there is no money left for distribution of those keys. So we've got to wait for Round 4 to ship. SP does only the keys plus shipping to one site for free.

If you've got a solution, let me know it!

:-)

Soarer · « **Reply #5240 on:** Fri, 14 October 2011, 08:06:59 »

Quote from: 7bit;430839

The problem is that there is no money left for distribution of those keys. So we've got to wait for Round 4 to ship. SP does only the keys plus shipping to one site for free.

If you've got a solution, let me know it!

:-)

I did, ages ago!

Quote from: Soarer;403873

I don't mind paying some extra shipping! If we got fixed keys to iMav (or someone), then at least people could choose whether to pay for shipping to get them soon, or wait til round 4 ships. (I imagine that a lot of people aren't too worried about the stepped caps lock, since it doesn't affect Filco, Leopold etc, so would be happy to wait).

Besides which, I don't see how waiting for round 4 helps, in the case that someone who is due replacement keys is not taking part in round 4...?!

7bit · « **Reply #5241 on:** Fri, 14 October 2011, 08:22:09 »

Quote from: Soarer;430874

I did, ages ago!

OK, that's a point!

Is there anybody who can do the shipping?

Quote from: Soarer;430874

Besides which, I don't see how waiting for round 4 helps, in the case that someone who is due replacement keys is not taking part in round 4...?!

The idea is that the majority will get stuff from R4, so there will be only a few who will get R3 replacements only.

One solution would be to do the distribution along with keyboardlover's Dyesub Group Buy.

Soarer · « **Reply #5242 on:** Fri, 14 October 2011, 08:57:40 »

Quote from: 7bit;430884

OK, that's a point!

Is there anybody who can do the shipping?

I don't know... do you have a [strike]poor sucker[/strike] kind person lined up to do the round 4 distribution yet?

Quote from: 7bit;430884

The idea is that the majority will get stuff from R4, so there will be only a few who will get R3 replacements only.

Sure, but there would still be a cost, and what if it turns out not to be the majority? Can you assess that yet from the votes you've already had for round 4?

Quote from: 7bit;430884

One solution would be to do the distribution along with keyboardlover's Dyesub Group Buy.

I'm not sure how that helps unless there's a reasonable overlap in the people involved... but I'm listening :-)

7bit · « **Reply #5243 on:** Fri, 14 October 2011, 09:16:34 »

Quote from: Soarer;430908

I don't know... do you have a [strike]poor sucker[/strike] kind person lined up to do the round 4 distribution yet?

Sure, but there would still be a cost, and what if it turns out not to be the majority? Can you assess that yet from the votes you've already had for round 4?

I'm not sure how that helps unless there's a reasonable overlap in the people involved... but I'm listening :-)

I could get the key caps for the EU guys sorted out and sent over along with the Unicomp stuff and then distributed locally to keep the costs down.

Soarer · « **Reply #5244 on:** Sat, 22 October 2011, 16:37:08 »

What Unicomp stuff? I'm more confused now than those poor folks trying to work out the Round 4 order codes!

PS. Post 5555! This thread just will not die...

Kelsin · « **Reply #5245 on:** Thu, 27 October 2011, 10:12:41 »

How do we make sure we're "registered" to receive missing terran keys / replacements for upside down ]} keys if their coming in round 4?

7bit · « **Reply #5246 on:** Thu, 27 October 2011, 11:10:01 »

Quote from: Kelsin;440474

How do we make sure we're "registered" to receive missing terran keys / replacements for upside down ]} keys if their coming in round 4?

grep Kelsin missingkeys.doc
Kelsin|-4|SCWINTERRAN
Kelsin |-1|]} key missing from STANDARD kit

Kelsin · « **Reply #5247 on:** Fri, 28 October 2011, 06:49:23 »

Quote from: 7bit;440499

grep Kelsin missingkeys.doc
Kelsin|-4|SCWINTERRAN
Kelsin |-1|]} key missing from STANDARD kit

Thanks

I know that's annoying but makes me feel better knowing that you know about it!

Soarer · « **Reply #5248 on:** Sat, 19 November 2011, 17:02:12 »

So, 7bit...

NOW that Melissa has agreed to redo the faulty keys AND there is someone to distribute round4 keys AND I've agreed to pay for the shipping of my keys from whoever that might be...

What is stopping you getting the replacement keys made and sent to the distribution center?

ejsteven · « **Reply #5249 on:** Sat, 19 November 2011, 23:47:14 »

7bit could you register me to receive my missing keys from round 3 as well? They are:
2 x SPACEGREY
2 x SCWINTERRAN

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Author Topic: Double shot replacements ROUND THREE: Vote for Kits & Quantities! (Read 1004051 times)