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【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 05:37:47 »
JER-A06 Custom Keyboard


This a custom keyboard of PCB mounted. Cherry Original Keyboard is famous for soft and comfortable type-feel when typing to bottom of PCB-mounted keyboard. Inspired by the unique type-feel, the OTD custom keyboard emerged. Subsequently, many custom keyboard emerged with more functions, more creativeness, more improvement. More and more enthusiasts come into for custom keyboards. Due to design for top housing and bottom housing, CNC has to make compromise between configuration and type-feel.
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Round 1 of 80% has been launched last year. This round designer changes the name from J80 to JER-A06.
I want to design a metal custom keyboard with a type-feel just like OG cherry keyboard. A custom keyboard is 80% PCB-mounted but with pretty typing experience.
Below are photos from R1


Specifications:
1, PCB-amounted, for original and comfortable type-feel without compromise
2,PCB is fixed to inside of top housing, suspended in middle to avoid contacting with metal bottom housing, which offer more resilience when typing.
Configuration:
1, Wide frame, round corner , slope angle ,all the details of OG cherry keyboards are all in JER-A06.
2, Layout: WKL and WK in 80%
3, Colors:
Top: Black, Gray, White(microarc oxidation).
Bottom: Black, Gray, White(microarc oxidation)
4, Led sticker: two ways for assembling 
5, CNC and anodizing will be done by EVE, who have done CNC for Moon, MIRA, zero, Atom, Meteor, Kira and so on.
6, Materials:6063 Aluminum
7, USB interface and integrated to PCB
Estimate GB time: In a week or so.

2018/6/16
I am here to clarify that this round supports ISO layout
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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 05:38:47 »
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The sample of this round.
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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 05:57:03 »
Looks great! How is the pcb programmed? Qmk would be fantastic:)

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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 06:06:23 »
Looks great! How is the pcb programmed? Qmk would be fantastic:)

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 06:16:18 »
I hope there'll be a version without these ugly led window

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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 08:50:49 »
I hope there'll be a version without these ugly led window
I for one like the led window, you don't see it too often in custom designs.

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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 08:52:09 »
yep i'm in for this. And I vote to keep the "ugly led window" thank you very much.
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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 09:52:10 »
Very beautiful. I'm in for sure.  :thumb:

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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 09:56:47 »
Looks great! How large is this? Simular to a realforce?

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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 09:59:13 »
how much would this roughly weigh? slightly worried about the import duty I'd have to pay
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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 10:24:07 »
What advantage do PCB-mounted keyboards have over plate-mounted ones? Besides switch-top opening.

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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 13:52:00 »
I hope there'll be a version without these ugly led window
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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 14:11:31 »
What advantage do PCB-mounted keyboards have over plate-mounted ones? Besides switch-top opening.

From what I've gathered, it's a more natural key-feel that responds a bit more to your keypresses by flexing, over a stiffer supporting plate material such as aluminum, brass, and even polycarbonate. OP's saying this is reminiscent of older mech designs in plastic housings.

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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 14:50:40 »
I hope there'll be a version without these ugly led window
actually, from this picture, the LED window looks to be optional.
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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 15:29:38 »
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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 16:41:47 »
Looks great :cool:


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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 23:17:57 »
Interested in one of these  :cool:

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interested

is this related to J80?
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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 23:52:51 »
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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 00:01:38 »
Had my eye on this since the initial teasers, definitely interested
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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 00:43:16 »
Looks great! How large is this? Simular to a realforce?
The width is just like the width of G80-3XXX and a bit wider than Realforce 30g.
how much would this roughly weigh? slightly worried about the import duty I'd have to pay
about 4-4.5 kilogram. I am not quite sure about lowering the price of customs declaration. I will check that.
What advantage do PCB-mounted keyboards have over plate-mounted ones? Besides switch-top opening.
PCB-mounted is more comfortable for typing using linear MX switches, the good examples are G80-3494 and G80-1869. Although that , all the likes are very subjective .Assembling with PCB mounted or Plate mounted are depending on yourself. However, PCB mounted offer a choice for enthusiasts.
interested

is this related to J80?


Yes, actually, this round is J80 round 2 and changed name from J80 R2 to JER, this have improved a lot based on J80 Round1


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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 00:50:40 »
Thank you all the interest above.
I want to clarify that you could ask any questions about this JER-A06. If I don't know , I will ask designer to answer that.
Below are assembled J80 for participants of J80 Round 1





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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 01:00:29 »
I like  :thumb:

Posting here so I can keep an eye on it.
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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 01:08:02 »
I like  :thumb:

Posting here so I can keep an eye on it.

Thank you

And the pad is just like G80-3700 to go with JER-A06 .The photo is just render not real ones.
The photos for 80% are real assembled J80. The designer and EVE have collaborated to make many improvement  on details of top and bottom housing based on J80.

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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 01:35:07 »
is there an estimated price range for this?
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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 01:52:32 »
is there an estimated price range for this?

JER-A06 range from 450 to 500 USD . Pad is around 200 USD.

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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 02:13:33 »
is there an estimated price range for this?

JER-A06 range from 450 to 500 USD . Pad is around 200 USD.
Thank you for saving me from having to buy this.
Way more expensive than the china gb so I'm out :thumb:

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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 02:54:29 »
is there an estimated price range for this?

JER-A06 range from 450 to 500 USD . Pad is around 200 USD.

That price really hurts when r1 was 2499RMB in June 2017, which works out to between 360 and 370. What changes were made that justify the $100/$150 increase in price?
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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 03:11:03 »
is there an estimated price range for this?

JER-A06 range from 450 to 500 USD . Pad is around 200 USD.

That price really hurts when r1 was 2499RMB in June 2017, which works out to between 360 and 370. What changes were made that justify the $100/$150 increase in price?

This. I would like to know this as well.
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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 03:19:13 »
is there an estimated price range for this?

JER-A06 range from 450 to 500 USD . Pad is around 200 USD.

That price really hurts when r1 was 2499RMB in June 2017, which works out to between 360 and 370. What changes were made that justify the $100/$150 increase in price?

This. I would like to know this as well.
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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 03:21:56 »
does the pcb support iso layouts?
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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 04:53:49 »
does the pcb support iso layouts?

Sorry ,this round don't support ISO currently.

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« Reply #32 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:04:26 »
would screw in stabilizers be touching the bottom case?

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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:14:13 »
is there an estimated price range for this?

JER-A06 range from 450 to 500 USD . Pad is around 200 USD.

That price really hurts when r1 was 2499RMB in June 2017, which works out to between 360 and 370. What changes were made that justify the $100/$150 increase in price?

Thank you for question, I have felt a bit expensive than I expect. I have to check that with the designer.
Here I post discussion of the snapshot between me and designer.




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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:30:25 »
I explain the discussion between us into English.
1, The designer give the exact price is 2699 RMB, not the wrong 2800, 200RMB higher than R1 J80
2, The material for this JER-A06 has upgraded from 6061 aluminum to 6063 aluminum.
3,The designer let EVE Lab do the CNC and anodizing. EVE Lab has sophisticated expertise in doing this and they have OEM lots of custom keyboards such as Moon ,Mira, Meteor and so on. The better , the cost is higher.
4, The designer has collaborated with EVE Lab to improve and polish the details of top and bottom housing based on R1.

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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:42:09 »


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would screw in stabilizers be touching the bottom case?

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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:50:31 »
I explain the discussion between us into English.
1, The designer give the exact price is 2699 RMB, not the wrong 2800, 200RMB higher than R1 J80
2, The material for this JER-A06 has upgraded from 6061 aluminum to 6063 aluminum.
3,The designer let EVE Lab do the CNC and anodizing. EVE Lab has sophisticated expertise in doing this and they have OEM lots of custom keyboards such as Moon ,Mira, Meteor and so on. The better , the cost is higher.
4, The designer has collaborated with EVE Lab to improve and polish the details of top and bottom housing based on R1.

Thanks for the reply! Glad to see you guys are so transparent with the pricing.

So if I may summarise, the price is 2700rmb, we get better alu than r1, eve’s top notch cnc and anode (speaking from experience as I own a Moon and felt up a Mira in person), and improvements which no doubt increase the complexity and therefore price of the cnc process itself.

I don’t feel as bad about the price but I will have to rethink my purchase decision (who am I kidding, I’m still getting this)


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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:52:29 »
One more question, who’s the pcb manufacturer?


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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:58:53 »
B-series
Not familiar with B-series? Can you share some information about how I would go about programming the keymap on this? Is there a GUI?

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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 06:14:02 »
B-series
Not familiar with B-series? Can you share some information about how I would go about programming the keymap on this? Is there a GUI?

I’ve been told b-series means b.87, so ps2av, ie bootmapper. Correct me if I’m wrong pls.

Also how does the pcb mount to the top casing? Clips? Screws?


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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 10:22:23 »
B-series
Not familiar with B-series? Can you share some information about how I would go about programming the keymap on this? Is there a GUI?

I’ve been told b-series means b.87, so ps2av, ie bootmapper. Correct me if I’m wrong pls.

Also how does the pcb mount to the top casing? Clips? Screws?


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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 23:24:27 »
B-series
Not familiar with B-series? Can you share some information about how I would go about programming the keymap on this? Is there a GUI?

B-series
Not familiar with B-series? Can you share some information about how I would go about programming the keymap on this? Is there a GUI?

I’ve been told b-series means b.87, so ps2av, ie bootmapper. Correct me if I’m wrong pls.

Also how does the pcb mount to the top casing? Clips? Screws?


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b.87 is just a form factor

i think b series is EVE's GUI which isn't very good

not really sure though

B-series
Not familiar with B-series? Can you share some information about how I would go about programming the keymap on this? Is there a GUI?

I’ve been told b-series means b.87, so ps2av, ie bootmapper. Correct me if I’m wrong pls.

Also how does the pcb mount to the top casing? Clips? Screws?


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B series PCB includes BFACE,B87,MPAD,BPAD. This JER-A06's PCB is Bface. The firmware is bootmapper.

Offline MajorKoos

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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 23:37:33 »
Tickle me interested :)

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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #43 on: Fri, 15 June 2018, 00:22:27 »
Very interested.  The case looks fantastic.  I really like the dark gray version.

You said the GB would start in about a week.  What about manufacturing time?  Just trying to get an idea for when these boards would start shipping out. 

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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #44 on: Fri, 15 June 2018, 07:21:59 »
B-series
Not familiar with B-series? Can you share some information about how I would go about programming the keymap on this? Is there a GUI?

I’ve been told b-series means b.87, so ps2av, ie bootmapper. Correct me if I’m wrong pls.

Also how does the pcb mount to the top casing? Clips? Screws?


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I just built a J80 last night. The PCB mounts to the top of the case with M2(?) screws, kinda like a top mount plate

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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 15 June 2018, 07:53:37 »
B series PCB includes BFACE,B87,MPAD,BPAD. This JER-A06's PCB is Bface. The firmware is bootmapper.
Ahh i see, so it'll have an atmega32a. Not for me then but GLWGB!

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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 15 June 2018, 08:47:26 »
Non-detachable cable??

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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 15 June 2018, 08:50:36 »
thanks, are there plans to add iso support in the newr future?
does the pcb support iso layouts?

Sorry ,this round don't support ISO currently.
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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 15 June 2018, 18:09:58 »
thanks, are there plans to add iso support in the newr future?
does the pcb support iso layouts?

Sorry ,this round don't support ISO currently.
ISO would make this perrfect

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Re: 【IC】JER-A06 PCB-Mounted Custom Keyboard
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 17 June 2018, 17:35:38 »
How much will extra PCBs be?

Possible to get a coiled cable option without the detachable aviation connector?
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