Post by: sherryton on Thu, 08 December 2016, 13:16:00
(http://imgur.com/ECPuKp6.jpg)
All information can be found here: www.kbdist.com (http://www.kbdist.com)
Orders can be made here: www.originativeco.com/products/honeywell (http://www.originativeco.com/products/honeywell)
Price - $135
Price include trays as well.
Timeline:
1. January 13, 2017 - Orders will end
2. January 20, 2017 - Submit Order to Factory
3. April 21, 2017 - Expected Arrival Date
Update #1:
Thank you everyone who have participated in the Honeywell Group Buy so far and have continued to support us. For the people that have already joined, you guys will get our new updated kit with the extra keys at no extra cost. For all new participants, the cost have increased by $6. Andy and I will fill in the rest of the payments to help incur the costs.
Update #2:
There's a new color used on the grey. The grey is GPA which is almost exactly the same grey used on the SA Honeywell. The MOQ is 250, but I promised 150 MOQ. With all the support we got with this group buy, I'm willing to push the set myself. The set will go through. We will make payment to GMK next week. Feel free to continue ordering until January!
Post by: smart5088 on Thu, 08 December 2016, 17:52:49
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 08 December 2016, 17:54:08
What is gmk color code ?
+1. Would be an interesting set to mix with Dolch if the grey on the mod keys matches Dolch alphas.
For those that may be wondering, Dolch alpha is CP on CC.
Post by: heinrich on Thu, 08 December 2016, 18:00:25
What is gmk color code ?
2b & 2m
Post by: poolside on Thu, 08 December 2016, 18:09:02
That's an extra thumbs up :thumb:
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 08 December 2016, 18:48:46
Post by: shower_king on Thu, 08 December 2016, 20:25:48
Post by: shawn o on Thu, 08 December 2016, 21:10:53
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 08 December 2016, 21:27:09
viper gb's gmfu
Post by: airs on Fri, 09 December 2016, 01:04:39
Post by: MandrewDavis on Fri, 09 December 2016, 01:12:14
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 09 December 2016, 03:05:20
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 09 December 2016, 04:41:31
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 09 December 2016, 14:11:37
Is this 75% compatible?
Yes sir! All compatible keys are available in the picture above.
Yep. I'm a sucker for the vintage colorways. And GMK. I'm in.
Trust me on the colors, they are absolutely stunning. We plan to run more sets with this same colorway.
I dare to ask why the numpad is not white on black and I'd suggest to make Pause/Break also in red to match symmetry with Esc.
Maybe just the front printing in Red? That might be really interesting...
Post by: johntron25 on Fri, 09 December 2016, 14:25:26
Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 09 December 2016, 14:29:24
I dare to ask why the numpad is not white on black and I'd suggest to make Pause/Break also in red to match symmetry with Esc.
I disagree! It takes away from the simplicity of this set. :)
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 09 December 2016, 16:38:25
Is it possible to have the "F" and "J" keys to be scooped and no nubs?
Looks like it has both in the renders
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 09 December 2016, 16:46:20
- grey iso enter
- modern 1800 compatibility
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 09 December 2016, 18:50:46
I mean red keycaps and white legends. Just like the red Esc, to match the original symmetry (https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56aade6ed210b85419e21e0c/5841c8df46c3c4f2f7cf3ce4/5841c90803596e3099dc10f5/1480706313463/NLj28Pk.jpg?format=500w).I dare to ask why the numpad is not white on black and I'd suggest to make Pause/Break also in red to match symmetry with Esc.Maybe just the front printing in Red? That might be really interesting...
Post by: MandrewDavis on Fri, 09 December 2016, 20:30:00
My suggestions:
- grey iso enter
- modern 1800 compatibility
RIP $129
Post by: kmba on Sat, 10 December 2016, 01:05:03
I dare to ask why the numpad is not white on black and I'd suggest to make Pause/Break also in red to match symmetry with Esc.
Maybe just the front printing in Red? That might be really interesting...
You'd need the F12 and Minus key (full size only, on numpad) as red to best match. And black numpad would be cool. But all in all I love this interpretation.
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 10 December 2016, 02:15:18
My suggestions:
- grey iso enter
- modern 1800 compatibility
RIP $129
I meant to replace the iso enter with a grey one.
Adding modern 1800 compatibility means adding some 1u keys. Probably will cost $2
Post by: pomk on Sat, 10 December 2016, 04:19:21
Please, do surprise us in the next buy.
Thanks!
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 10 December 2016, 17:25:54
No swe/fi support, just plain old, boring, market saturated uk caps. :(
Please, do surprise us in the next buy.
Thanks!
If you read the update on Reddit, the UK-specific caps has been removed as well, in favour of 65%/75% support. The keyset designer has confirmed there will NOT be a grey ISO-enter as well, which really reduce the impact of this keyset for me, as an ISO-UK user who also wants the basic Grey Enter :(
Here is the latest render:
(https://i.imgur.com/31bHSON.png)
Post by: pomk on Sat, 10 December 2016, 19:13:53
How nice of them to change things mid buy, and in a less inclusive manner as well. WTF! :-XNo swe/fi support, just plain old, boring, market saturated uk caps. :(
Please, do surprise us in the next buy.
Thanks!
If you read the update on Reddit, the UK-specific caps has been removed as well, in favour of 65%/75% support. The keyset designer has confirmed there will NOT be a grey ISO-enter as well, which really reduce the impact of this keyset for me, as an ISO-UK user who also wants the basic Grey Enter :(
They should just remove ISO completely instead of pretending that they give a damn. :'(
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 10 December 2016, 19:20:41
How nice of them to change things mid buy, and in a less inclusive manner as well. WTF! :-XNo swe/fi support, just plain old, boring, market saturated uk caps. :(
Please, do surprise us in the next buy.
Thanks!
If you read the update on Reddit, the UK-specific caps has been removed as well, in favour of 65%/75% support. The keyset designer has confirmed there will NOT be a grey ISO-enter as well, which really reduce the impact of this keyset for me, as an ISO-UK user who also wants the basic Grey Enter :(
They should just remove ISO completely instead of pretending that they give a damn. :'(
I'm not thrilled about the latest developments either, rather sad about not having that Grey Enter, especially since Originative already sells a Mod Pack with the Red Enter for users who want that colour.
Post by: need on Sat, 10 December 2016, 19:23:26
Seems like they care more of their Tada68 users than to ISO users.How nice of them to change things mid buy, and in a less inclusive manner as well. WTF! :-XNo swe/fi support, just plain old, boring, market saturated uk caps. :(
Please, do surprise us in the next buy.
Thanks!
If you read the update on Reddit, the UK-specific caps has been removed as well, in favour of 65%/75% support. The keyset designer has confirmed there will NOT be a grey ISO-enter as well, which really reduce the impact of this keyset for me, as an ISO-UK user who also wants the basic Grey Enter :(
They should just remove ISO completely instead of pretending that they give a damn. :'(
And this set is really expensive for the amount of limitations it has.
Post by: Cotay on Sun, 11 December 2016, 00:48:40
Post by: soilheart on Sun, 11 December 2016, 03:49:25
No swe/fi support, just plain old, boring, market saturated uk caps. :(
Please, do surprise us in the next buy.
Thanks!
If you read the update on Reddit, the UK-specific caps has been removed as well, in favour of 65%/75% support. The keyset designer has confirmed there will NOT be a grey ISO-enter as well, which really reduce the impact of this keyset for me, as an ISO-UK user who also wants the basic Grey Enter :(
Here is the latest render:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/31bHSON.png)
In favor of? But... but.. there's no new keys in that render, only removed keys... I'm confused.
Post by: poolside on Sun, 11 December 2016, 04:17:23
No swe/fi support, just plain old, boring, market saturated uk caps. :(
Please, do surprise us in the next buy.
Thanks!
If you read the update on Reddit, the UK-specific caps has been removed as well, in favour of 65%/75% support. The keyset designer has confirmed there will NOT be a grey ISO-enter as well, which really reduce the impact of this keyset for me, as an ISO-UK user who also wants the basic Grey Enter :(
Here is the latest render:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/31bHSON.png)
In favor of? But... but.. there's no new keys in that render, only removed keys... I'm confused.
1u Alt, Ctrl and <>| have been added.
Post by: skcheng on Sun, 11 December 2016, 06:24:25
Post by: soilheart on Sun, 11 December 2016, 06:47:16
Ah, the picture in the op contains the 1xU alt and ctrl (and the UK iso keys). I guess it's 3x1xU keys for 3x1xU keys then. (Still annoyed at ISO always being shafted, but then again that almost standard by now so...)No swe/fi support, just plain old, boring, market saturated uk caps. :(
Please, do surprise us in the next buy.
Thanks!
If you read the update on Reddit, the UK-specific caps has been removed as well, in favour of 65%/75% support. The keyset designer has confirmed there will NOT be a grey ISO-enter as well, which really reduce the impact of this keyset for me, as an ISO-UK user who also wants the basic Grey Enter :(
Here is the latest render:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/31bHSON.png)
In favor of? But... but.. there's no new keys in that render, only removed keys... I'm confused.
1u Alt, Ctrl and <>| have been added.
Post by: sherryton on Sun, 11 December 2016, 14:00:12
so this set with both scooped and nubbed F/J keycaps?? I like the scoops, but my gamer son hates them lol.
We are going full scoops. We will also change the Windows to 'CODE' for 1u.
The color will also be changed to a custom color to match the original SA Honeywell. I have talked to Andy, and I am using the same tone for another set.
This may mean the MOQ will go up to 250, but I will talk to GMK on Monday.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 11 December 2016, 14:32:34
Look, I'm sorry some of you guys don't like the ISO kit. I am. But like I've explained before its NOT a personal attack against ISO users or you personally, as people often make it seem.This is simply a numbers game. Going by past numbers of my buys I just know ISO hardly gets any sales. Original Jukebox run sold 8 kits I believe. Round 2 with over 2000k units sold had 30ish sold total. Other very popular sets right now, like 1965, have 8 ISO sets sold currently.
So when trying to keep the cost to what it is, all while covering as much as possible the decision making gets hard. Sure this ISO kit may not cover everything perfectly, but I had a very good long discussion with both Zambu and Tombrey (ISO users and designers) about the kit and both liked this current kit best. Hell, this IS the Carbon kit basically, and it concentrates on coverage and at least providing a key rather than providing all of the "correct" legends. With the numbers of ISO sales that would just be extremely expensive.
And I'm sorry half of you want a Grey enter. I thought I was doing you guys a favor by including the "cool" color enter key instead of the plain one. I know if i did it the other way around though I'd get the same number of people asking to get a red enter, or complaining that they have to buy the Cressaria kit (different color red, btw) to get a red enter. I had the same problem with doing the Hyperfuse set thinking about adding more enters and even Bunny told me it was going to end up not being worth adding extra ISO enter colors.
If you don't like the set, I am sorry. I'm not here to convince you to buy it by any means. I just wanted to make a set in a colorway that I always very much enjoyed and hope some people here can also get some enjoyment from this set as well. It has been a labor of love as usual with set designs, but we are pleased with where it is and think itll look great when it is produced! Sherry and I are both very excited about this and think it will come out looking great, especially now with the possibility of the custom color grey!
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 11 December 2016, 15:12:06
Pricing for this was very important, and covering the majority of keyboards that people have for as little as possible is what I was aiming for with this buy. Obviously there will non-standard boards that just don't get covered. I'm not even making a penny from this buy because we both REALLY want to get an affordable set out there for people. And frankly, I think we did a pretty decent job. 60%/HHKB/Winkeylesss/TKL/TK, 980 style 1800, 65%, 75%, 96 key. We managed to cover a good number of boards that cover a vast majority of buyers I think.
Look, I'm sorry some of you guys don't like the ISO kit. I am. But like I've explained before its NOT a personal attack against ISO users or you personally, as people often make it seem.This is simply a numbers game. Going by past numbers of my buys I just know ISO hardly gets any sales. Original Jukebox run sold 8 kits I believe. Round 2 with over 2000k units sold had 30ish sold total. Other very popular sets right now, like 1965, have 8 ISO sets sold currently.
So when trying to keep the cost to what it is, all while covering as much as possible the decision making gets hard. Sure this ISO kit may not cover everything perfectly, but I had a very good long discussion with both Zambu and Tombrey (ISO users and designers) about the kit and both liked this current kit best. Hell, this IS the Carbon kit basically, and it concentrates on coverage and at least providing a key rather than providing all of the "correct" legends. With the numbers of ISO sales that would just be extremely expensive.
And I'm sorry half of you want a Grey enter. I thought I was doing you guys a favor by including the "cool" color enter key instead of the plain one. I know if i did it the other way around though I'd get the same number of people asking to get a red enter, or complaining that they have to buy the Cressaria kit (different color red, btw) to get a red enter. I had the same problem with doing the Hyperfuse set thinking about adding more enters and even Bunny told me it was going to end up not being worth adding extra ISO enter colors.
If you don't like the set, I am sorry. I'm not here to convince you to buy it by any means. I just wanted to make a set in a colorway that I always very much enjoyed and hope some people here can also get some enjoyment from this set as well. It has been a labor of love as usual with set designs, but we are pleased with where it is and think itll look great when it is produced! Sherry and I are both very excited about this and think it will come out looking great, especially now with the possibility of the custom color grey!
No one is doubting your hard work, please don't take this as a personal attack. I am just completely miffed that the original render had the UK keys and then they were taken out again, it's like getting your hopes up and all excited and then being let down :(
Post by: soilheart on Sun, 11 December 2016, 15:26:57
Personally, I would always choose adding better compatibility over price, but that's probably because I don't have any issues paying a little extra myself.
I do understand how price is an issue for some users though, but my own opinion still stands, I'd rather pay a little extra than loosing compatibility.
(Hell, I could possibly even pay the total difference for having a few more keys added to a kit sometimes (as long as I would get all the extra keys sent to me of course =P)).
With all that said, if this set is going custom color, i.e. it'll be hard to color match (the red) with other sets, my interest just went down quite a bit...
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 11 December 2016, 15:28:49
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 11 December 2016, 15:31:11
Those stats about iso kits sold on massflop are irrelevant. No European buys stuff on massflop. Import taxes are too high.
I guess I must be doing it wrong, I buy a lot of stuff from Massdrop :))
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 12 December 2016, 00:17:31
Those stats about iso kits sold on massflop are irrelevant. No European buys stuff on massflop. Import taxes are too high.
I guess I must be doing it wrong, I buy a lot of stuff from Massdrop :))
They have probably the best customer service, but import taxes at 35% kill my interests. Otherwise it's a very beautiful set
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 12 December 2016, 05:31:26
Those stats about iso kits sold on massflop are irrelevant. No European buys stuff on massflop. Import taxes are too high.
I guess I must be doing it wrong, I buy a lot of stuff from Massdrop :))
They have probably the best customer service, but import taxes at 35% kill my interests. Otherwise it's a very beautiful set
That is true. I guess Italy has much higher import tax than UK
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 12 December 2016, 09:46:33
That is true. I guess Italy has much higher import tax than UK
Actually, Italian VAT is 22% according to the latest updates far as I'm aware. That's not 35%, of course you have to add customs handling/storage fees so it most likely does end up being quite a far bit more than just the VAT - in my country and with DHL (all that MD use nowadays), given the packages get rebranded in Frankfurt Germany, we don't actually pay anything extra for MD purchases most the time. I guess someone who doesn't buy from MD wouldn't know, plus maybe other country's customs are more competent/inquisitive than mine, but still.
The stats about ISO from Massdrop are far from irrelevant, calling them massflop doesn't further corroborate one's point - same sort of numbers can be observed elsewhere, if a designer doesn't think it is cost efficient to include ISO (which it obviously is not, don't need to be a designer/vendor to see that) then of course they will drop some (or all) of its keys in favour of other more relevant (read: profitable) ones. It'd be nice if we could all have NORDE ISO in every single set for $0 additional dollars but that's nothing but Utopia. I'm all for inclusion but there are things you cannot argue.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 12 December 2016, 09:58:50
That is true. I guess Italy has much higher import tax than UK
Actually, Italian VAT is 22% according to the latest updates far as I'm aware. That's not 35%, of course you have to add customs handling/storage fees so it most likely does end up being quite a far bit more than just the VAT - in my country and with DHL (all that MD use nowadays), given the packages get rebranded in Frankfurt Germany, we don't actually pay anything extra for MD purchases most the time. I guess someone who doesn't buy from MD wouldn't know, plus maybe other country's customs are more competent/inquisitive than mine, but still.
The stats about ISO from Massdrop are far from irrelevant, calling them massflop doesn't further corroborate one's point - same sort of numbers can be observed elsewhere, if a designer doesn't think it is cost efficient to include ISO (which is obviously is not, don't need to be a designer/vendor to see that) then of course they will drop some (or all) of its keys in favour of other more relevant (read: profitable) ones. It'd be nice if we could all have NORDE ISO in every single set for $0 additional dollars but that's nothing but Utopia. I'm all for inclusion but there are things you cannot argue.
:-* :-* :-*
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 12 December 2016, 10:15:59
That is true. I guess Italy has much higher import tax than UK
Actually, Italian VAT is 22% according to the latest updates far as I'm aware. That's not 35%, of course you have to add customs handling/storage fees so it most likely does end up being quite a far bit more than just the VAT - in my country and with DHL (all that MD use nowadays), given the packages get rebranded in Frankfurt Germany, we don't actually pay anything extra for MD purchases most the time. I guess someone who doesn't buy from MD wouldn't know, plus maybe other country's customs are more competent/inquisitive than mine, but still.
The stats about ISO from Massdrop are far from irrelevant, calling them massflop doesn't further corroborate one's point - same sort of numbers can be observed elsewhere, if a designer doesn't think it is cost efficient to include ISO (which it obviously is not, don't need to be a designer/vendor to see that) then of course they will drop some (or all) of its keys in favour of other more relevant (read: profitable) ones. It'd be nice if we could all have NORDE ISO in every single set for $0 additional dollars but that's nothing but Utopia. I'm all for inclusion but there are things you cannot argue.
The last $55 massdrop packet required a payment of about $20.
The massdrop stats are irrelevant because most europeans know about import taxes, so they often delay or avoid buying from them; plus delivery costs are too high.
And please don't tell me if I can or if I can't make some wordplays.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4cen58/this_is_why_nobody_uses_massdrop_outside_the_us/
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 12 December 2016, 10:31:20
The last $55 massdrop packet required a payment of about $20.
The massdrop stats are irrelevant because most europeans know about import taxes, so they often delay or avoid buying from them.
And please don't tell me if I can or if I can't make some wordplays.
If you read what I wrote I stated making wordplays doesn't prove your point, which is true, not that you can or cannot make them. Unsure where or how you managed to understand it that way.
Livingspeedbump lives in the US. He is dealing with Originative which is a US based company. How many orders do you think they get from Europeans? Furthermore, how many Europeans do you think use ISO rather than just regular ANSI? Only EU (rather, UK) based company I know of that hosts MK related GBs is mechsupply, are there more? Probably, I've never bought from one and I've never seen any others referenced here on GH however so I'm not in the know.
If someone avoids buying from MD won't they avoid buying from anywhere else where taxes may incur? Of course smaller websites/businesses may be able to help you declare lower values in order to have you dodge taxing but firstly it's not granted they will be willing to, second it is not granted your country's customs will accept it without proof of purchase (which you then have to "stage" because your original receipt will be for $100+) and lastly this may not even occur to most people.
If a buy is mostly going to be held within the US then obviously they will prioritize layouts popular over there rather than cater to potential buyers who reside elsewhere. Logistically and economically speaking advocating something as you are trying to is moot point, even for $2 it's about appeasing the vast majority for the sake of the 1%. As said, I'm all for inclusion, I understand your frustration but you have to understand why it is not reasonable in the grand scheme of things.
PS: laying the subject to rest, further arguing will not be beneficial for anyone, numbers cannot be argued and anything past this will all be semantics.
(http://i.imgur.com/Aa78EIT.png)
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 12 December 2016, 10:43:16
The last $55 massdrop packet required a payment of about $20.
The massdrop stats are irrelevant because most europeans know about import taxes, so they often delay or avoid buying from them.
And please don't tell me if I can or if I can't make some wordplays.
If you read what I wrote I stated making wordplays doesn't prove your point, which is true, not that you can or cannot make them. Unsure where or how you managed to understand it that way.
Livingspeedbump lives in the US. He is dealing with Originative which is a US based company. How many orders do you think they get from Europeans? Furthermore, how many Europeans do you think use ISO rather than just regular ANSI? Only EU (rather, UK) based company I know of that hosts MK related GBs is mechsupply, are there more? Probably, I've never bought from one and I've never seen any others referenced here on GH however so I'm not in the know.
If someone avoids buying from MD won't they avoid buying from anywhere else where taxes may incur? Of course smaller websites/businesses may be able to help you declare lower values in order to have you dodge taxing but firstly it's not granted they will be willing to, second it is not granted your country's customs will accept it without proof of purchase (which you then have to "stage" because your original receipt will be for $100+) and lastly this may not even occur to most people.
If a buy is mostly going to be held within the US then obviously they will prioritize layouts popular over there rather than cater to potential buyers who reside elsewhere. Logistically and economically speaking advocating something as you are trying to is moot point, even for $2 it's about appeasing the vast majority for the sake of the 1%. As said, I'm all for inclusion, I understand your frustration but you have to understand why it is not reasonable in the grand scheme of things.
PS: laying the subject to rest, further arguing will not be beneficial for anyone, numbers cannot be argued and anything past this will all be semantics.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Aa78EIT.png)
woot
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 12 December 2016, 10:44:43
The last $55 massdrop packet required a payment of about $20.
The massdrop stats are irrelevant because most europeans know about import taxes, so they often delay or avoid buying from them.
And please don't tell me if I can or if I can't make some wordplays.
If you read what I wrote I stated making wordplays doesn't prove your point, which is true, not that you can or cannot make them. Unsure where or how you managed to understand it that way.
Livingspeedbump lives in the US. He is dealing with Originative which is a US based company. How many orders do you think they get from Europeans? Furthermore, how many Europeans do you think use ISO rather than just regular ANSI? Only EU (rather, UK) based company I know of that hosts MK related GBs is mechsupply, are there more? Probably, I've never bought from one and I've never seen any others referenced here on GH however so I'm not in the know.
If someone avoids buying from MD won't they avoid buying from anywhere else where taxes may incur? Of course smaller websites/businesses may be able to help you declare lower values in order to have you dodge taxing but firstly it's not granted they will be willing to, second it is not granted your country's customs will accept it without proof of purchase (which you then have to "stage" because your original receipt will be for $100+) and lastly this may not even occur to most people.
If a buy is mostly going to be held within the US then obviously they will prioritize layouts popular over there rather than cater to potential buyers who reside elsewhere. Logistically and economically speaking advocating something as you are trying to is moot point, even for $2 it's about appeasing the vast majority for the sake of the 1%. As said, I'm all for inclusion, I understand your frustration but you have to understand why it is not reasonable in the grand scheme of things.
PS: laying the subject to rest, further arguing will not be beneficial for anyone, numbers cannot be argued and anything past this will all be semantics.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Aa78EIT.png)
Thanks. This is pretty much exactly what I would say. I did the best I could and this is what the set is. If you don't like the set I am sorry, but you don't have to buy it either.
And I stated before, if more orders came for ISO, I'd include more. But I'm trying to cover spots on what I can for a decent price. The other alternative is to give the complete ISO kit that some people seem to want, make it a separate child deal that will cost $65+, and when it doesn't tip nobody gets any ISO coverage, because like Vigrith said, numbers can be argued all day but i can 110% guarantee an ISO kit for this won't hit MOQ on its own. I would be surprised if 10 sold.
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 12 December 2016, 10:45:44
so this set with both scooped and nubbed F/J keycaps?? I like the scoops, but my gamer son hates them lol.
We are going full scoops. We will also change the Windows to 'CODE' for 1u.
The color will also be changed to a custom color to match the original SA Honeywell. I have talked to Andy, and I am using the same tone for another set.
This may mean the MOQ will go up to 250, but I will talk to GMK on Monday.
full scoops? wow, sorry for that. It was a nice color anyway... great taste except for the red iso :-)
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 12 December 2016, 10:47:02
The last $55 massdrop packet required a payment of about $20.
The massdrop stats are irrelevant because most europeans know about import taxes, so they often delay or avoid buying from them.
And please don't tell me if I can or if I can't make some wordplays.
If you read what I wrote I stated making wordplays doesn't prove your point, which is true, not that you can or cannot make them. Unsure where or how you managed to understand it that way.
Livingspeedbump lives in the US. He is dealing with Originative which is a US based company. How many orders do you think they get from Europeans? Furthermore, how many Europeans do you think use ISO rather than just regular ANSI? Only EU (rather, UK) based company I know of that hosts MK related GBs is mechsupply, are there more? Probably, I've never bought from one and I've never seen any others referenced here on GH however so I'm not in the know.
If someone avoids buying from MD won't they avoid buying from anywhere else where taxes may incur? Of course smaller websites/businesses may be able to help you declare lower values in order to have you dodge taxing but firstly it's not granted they will be willing to, second it is not granted your country's customs will accept it without proof of purchase (which you then have to "stage" because your original receipt will be for $100+) and lastly this may not even occur to most people.
If a buy is mostly going to be held within the US then obviously they will prioritize layouts popular over there rather than cater to potential buyers who reside elsewhere. Logistically and economically speaking advocating something as you are trying to is moot point, even for $2 it's about appeasing the vast majority for the sake of the 1%. As said, I'm all for inclusion, I understand your frustration but you have to understand why it is not reasonable in the grand scheme of things.
PS: laying the subject to rest, further arguing will not be beneficial for anyone, numbers cannot be argued and anything past this will all be semantics.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Aa78EIT.png)
Thanks. This is pretty much exactly what I would say. I did the best I could and this is what the set is. If you don't like the set I am sorry, but you don't have to buy it either.
And I stated before, if more orders came for ISO, I'd include more. But I'm trying to cover spots on what I can for a decent price. The other alternative is to give the complete ISO kit that some people seem to want, make it a separate child deal that will cost $65+, and when it doesn't tip nobody gets any ISO coverage, because like Vigrith said, numbers can be argued all day but i can 110% guarantee an ISO kit for this won't hit MOQ on its own. I would be surprised if 10 sold.
thanks anyway for considering ISO :-)
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 12 December 2016, 10:54:47
The last $55 massdrop packet required a payment of about $20.
The massdrop stats are irrelevant because most europeans know about import taxes, so they often delay or avoid buying from them.
And please don't tell me if I can or if I can't make some wordplays.
If you read what I wrote I stated making wordplays doesn't prove your point, which is true, not that you can or cannot make them. Unsure where or how you managed to understand it that way.
Livingspeedbump lives in the US. He is dealing with Originative which is a US based company. How many orders do you think they get from Europeans? Furthermore, how many Europeans do you think use ISO rather than just regular ANSI? Only EU (rather, UK) based company I know of that hosts MK related GBs is mechsupply, are there more? Probably, I've never bought from one and I've never seen any others referenced here on GH however so I'm not in the know.
If someone avoids buying from MD won't they avoid buying from anywhere else where taxes may incur? Of course smaller websites/businesses may be able to help you declare lower values in order to have you dodge taxing but firstly it's not granted they will be willing to, second it is not granted your country's customs will accept it without proof of purchase (which you then have to "stage" because your original receipt will be for $100+) and lastly this may not even occur to most people.
If a buy is mostly going to be held within the US then obviously they will prioritize layouts popular over there rather than cater to potential buyers who reside elsewhere. Logistically and economically speaking advocating something as you are trying to is moot point, even for $2 it's about appeasing the vast majority for the sake of the 1%. As said, I'm all for inclusion, I understand your frustration but you have to understand why it is not reasonable in the grand scheme of things.
PS: laying the subject to rest, further arguing will not be beneficial for anyone, numbers cannot be argued and anything past this will all be semantics.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Aa78EIT.png)
I've never seen such a long list of banalities.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 12 December 2016, 10:55:04
Extra 2.25u Shift, 1.25u R4 CapsLock with matching 1.75u R3 Control = first GMK set to achieve nearly full 660-compliance (still need the 1.25 Fn, though) :thumb:
That's an extra thumbs up :thumb:
The WIN logo key has been changed to "Code" so hopefully that works better for you, and everyone on other OS' as well. Fit the theme more I believe too. All in all just a more useful key I think.
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 12 December 2016, 10:55:46
Extra 2.25u Shift, 1.25u R4 CapsLock with matching 1.75u R3 Control = first GMK set to achieve nearly full 660-compliance (still need the 1.25 Fn, though) :thumb:
That's an extra thumbs up :thumb:
The WIN logo key has been changed to "Code" so hopefully that works better for you, and everyone on other OS' as well. Fit the theme more I believe too. All in all just a more useful key I think.
+1
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 12 December 2016, 10:56:26
full scoops? wow, sorry for that. It was a nice color anyway... great taste except for the red iso :-)
I was trying to do everyone a favor.
I thought it looked pretty sexy(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9a/d5/0c/9ad50c88dca24918405b249228baa892.jpg)
Post by: pomk on Mon, 12 December 2016, 15:17:16
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Furthermore, how many Europeans do you think use ISO rather than just regular ANSI?Calling ansi regular is pretty blasphemous. Also, according to Granite R4 the international kit is more popular than wkl bottom row, maybe you should get rid of that as well while you are at it. :)) It would be nice if other sets would also have better distinction over specialty keys so that we could have a fuller picture on the matter. :)
As the price is a bit harder on European customers because of customs and having to buy more kits, it would be nice if the base tkl kits in popular colourways could be split to ansi specific keys and a truly international base. 7bit seems to have been able to do it, and while you may criticize the time his buys take (forever), the basic kit structure (and affordability because of it) could be adopted to other buys as well.
It is a pity that massdrop has not committed to the European market, by having its own corporate entity on this side of the pond. That would effectively remove some 25% of the cost of sets and drop postage prices considerably as well. Originative seems to be a very small business, so I think that they should just focus more on the american market and simply stop with the mutilated ISO support that they are willing to provide.
Post by: Chazmondo on Mon, 12 December 2016, 15:22:02
Was seriously eyeing up the set but then the UK ISO was removed :(. I understand its all about supply and demand.
Post by: pomk on Mon, 12 December 2016, 15:29:19
You might want to update the first post and the website as they both show the UK ISO in them with no mention of the change.This.
Post by: MMKB on Mon, 12 December 2016, 16:37:31
Extra 2.25u Shift, 1.25u R4 CapsLock with matching 1.75u R3 Control = first GMK set to achieve nearly full 660-compliance (still need the 1.25 Fn, though) :thumb:
That's an extra thumbs up :thumb:
The WIN logo key has been changed to "Code" so hopefully that works better for you, and everyone on other OS' as well. Fit the theme more I believe too. All in all just a more useful key I think.
Love the "Code" key so it's more universal! This color palette is so classic. Will definitely join in January.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 12 December 2016, 17:23:19
Yes, red enter is nice! Especially if accompanied with keys that have appropriate legends on them:
(Attachment Link)Furthermore, how many Europeans do you think use ISO rather than just regular ANSI?Calling ansi regular is pretty blasphemous. Also, according to Granite R4 the international kit is more popular than wkl bottom row, maybe you should get rid of that as well while you are at it. :)) It would be nice if other sets would also have better distinction over specialty keys so that we could have a fuller picture on the matter. :)
As the price is a bit harder on European customers because of customs and having to buy more kits, it would be nice if the base tkl kits in popular colourways could be split to ansi specific keys and a truly international base. 7bit seems to have been able to do it, and while you may criticize the time his buys take (forever), the basic kit structure (and affordability because of it) could be adopted to other buys as well.
It is a pity that massdrop has not committed to the European market, by having its own corporate entity on this side of the pond. That would effectively remove some 25% of the cost of sets and drop postage prices considerably as well. Originative seems to be a very small business, so I think that they should just focus more on the american market and simply stop with the mutilated ISO support that they are willing to provide.
Look dude. I get it. You don't like the red enter. You don't like the legends. You don't like this set. You don't like Massdrop. You don't like my design for included caps. There is absolutely nothing you are invested in here, or obligated to buy by any means, so please just move on.
Post by: need on Mon, 12 December 2016, 17:54:54
On the SA kit, the legends on the alphas are approaching black.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 12 December 2016, 18:12:56
On a real honeywell keyboard, the grey colour of those alpha legends seems to be deeper than modifiers' grey. However in this set, the greys seem to be the same?
On the SA kit, the legends on the alphas are approaching black.
On the real Honeywell keyboards and Round 5 SA honeywell the legends are in fact the same grey as the modifiers.
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/5/5e/Muiriums_Honeywell-keys.jpg)
Muiriums original caps for reference and history!
Yes the grey is the same in ours. This is obviously a set inspired by the Honeywell BO1810, not a replica to a tea. That is obvious right from the get go (no black number pad should give that way :). We didn't want to copy it exactly or how others had interpreted the original. This is our vision for it.
There is already white on black sets as it is, having a bit of a muted grey on white for the alphas will give the community something new as well.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 12 December 2016, 18:16:33
Extra 2.25u Shift, 1.25u R4 CapsLock with matching 1.75u R3 Control = first GMK set to achieve nearly full 660-compliance (still need the 1.25 Fn, though) :thumb:
That's an extra thumbs up :thumb:
The WIN logo key has been changed to "Code" so hopefully that works better for you, and everyone on other OS' as well. Fit the theme more I believe too. All in all just a more useful key I think.
Love the "Code" key so it's more universal! This color palette is so classic. Will definitely join in January.
Thanks! Glad you like it! Yeah i figured a lot of people would be strapped for cash before the holidays, so the extended buy period till after the new years should help some folks i hope!
Post by: mtzgr on Mon, 12 December 2016, 18:37:31
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Post by: pomk on Mon, 12 December 2016, 19:12:34
Love the colours, love the red enter, love the layout options.
Good luck with reaching the MOQ! :thumb:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 12 December 2016, 20:24:46
Sorry, I guess my tone was out of place.
Love the colours, love the red enter, love the layout options.
Good luck with reaching the MOQ! :thumb:
I'm just trying to do what benefits the most people. I am sorry if that excludes some of what you want. At the end of the day adding a few keys that 10 people needs means making 200+ people spend an extra $8 that for things that they don't need. Finding a balance is impossible, there is no perfect line between perfect coverage and perfect price.
Still, if someone approaches me and nicely asks "yo, can I run an ISO specific child deal for jukebox (or whatever set I do)?" I'd say "thanks for asking. of course", and give you whatever you needed to do your own run.
When I wanted extra hyperfuse colors on GMK that is exactly what went down between Bunny and I. I said "hey would you be into adding a few extra colors in a small kit?" And he had absolutely no issue with that. I made sure any profits I'd have gotten went his way, as he was the original designer and I don't deserve those funds, and went on my way doing the kit.
The same thing goes for all these jokers with crazy layout keyboards these days. It would literally cost hundreds to cover all standard and international layouts plus all the community made board layouts. My logic has always been "don't buy a a funky little 40% an expect any cap sets to cover it. Just piece together what you can for it."
I know it sucks for ISO sometimes. Hopefully guys like the UK Keycaps guys keep working at it to provide you guys with more sets. In the future (not this run, logistics are already in place) I'd have no problem talking to someone like that before a run, and seeing if they want to run their own ISO kits or something. That's a talk for another place, but I'm just trying to think of solutions instead of just complain. There is a lot that could be done, should anyone have any real ideas or solutions that would work for you ahead of time feel free to PM me.
Post by: thelaughingman on Mon, 12 December 2016, 21:00:26
Sorry, I guess my tone was out of place.
Love the colours, love the red enter, love the layout options.
Good luck with reaching the MOQ! :thumb:
I'm just trying to do what benefits the most people. I am sorry if that excludes some of what you want. At the end of the day adding a few keys that 10 people needs means making 200+ people spend an extra $8 that for things that they don't need. Finding a balance is impossible, there is no perfect line between perfect coverage and perfect price.
Still, if someone approaches me and nicely asks "yo, can I run an ISO specific child deal for jukebox (or whatever set I do)?" I'd say "thanks for asking. of course", and give you whatever you needed to do your own run.
When I wanted extra hyperfuse colors on GMK that is exactly what went down between Bunny and I. I said "hey would you be into adding a few extra colors in a small kit?" And he had absolutely no issue with that. I made sure any profits I'd have gotten went his way, as he was the original designer and I don't deserve those funds, and went on my way doing the kit.
The same thing goes for all these jokers with crazy layout keyboards these days. It would literally cost hundreds to cover all standard and international layouts plus all the community made board layouts. My logic has always been "don't buy a a funky little 40% an expect any cap sets to cover it. Just piece together what you can for it."
I know it sucks for ISO sometimes. Hopefully guys like the UK Keycaps guys keep working at it to provide you guys with more sets. In the future (not this run, logistics are already in place) I'd have no problem talking to someone like that before a run, and seeing if they want to run their own ISO kits or something. That's a talk for another place, but I'm just trying to think of solutions instead of just complain. There is a lot that could be done, should anyone have any real ideas or solutions that would work for you ahead of time feel free to PM me.
this should be quoted in every keycap group buys in my opinion. thank you for the honest answer and good luck with the buy :thumb:
Post by: shawn o on Mon, 12 December 2016, 21:11:55
You are selling a very specific item. If it wasn't finalized it shouldn't have been offered for sale. Changing it after people have paid money is FRAUD.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc249/mn_pikey/Layout%2012-12_zpss0bfbhm8.jpg)
Post by: shawn o on Mon, 12 December 2016, 21:23:32
This appear to be more of an interest check and not a group buy yet so why is money being taken?
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 12 December 2016, 21:29:32
Sent email to contact@originativeco.com. If any changes to this set have been made to what was offered for sale and pictured, I expect a full refund immediately. Full scoops? Code keys? **** THAT. GIVE ME MY ****ING MONEY BACK. Or I will file a dispute immediately.
This appear to be more of an interest check and not a group buy yet so why is money being taken?
Pretty sure you could've just sent the email and then came here if it wasn't answered to your liking rather than contributing to the ridiculousness, I've been refunded by Originative before with no issue. It's fairly evident throughout this post that people have strong opinions on both sides, adding to the mayhem doesn't help.
Will probably put in an order closer the end date in January :thumb:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 12 December 2016, 21:29:44
Sent email to contact@originativeco.com. If any changes to this set have been made to what was offered for sale and pictured, I expect a full refund immediately. Full scoops? Code keys? **** THAT. GIVE ME MY ****ING MONEY BACK. Or I will file a dispute immediately.
This appear to be more of an interest check and not a group buy yet so why is money being taken?
Dude, chill. With community run sets many people make little changes here and there, and this isn't nearly after the buy period so you have plenty of time to get money back. Like I said in an earlier post Sherry is off on vacation for a few days. I'm sure you can get that full refund without any hassle at all.
Post by: shawn o on Mon, 12 December 2016, 21:34:42
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 12 December 2016, 22:03:42
Post by: Endeavour1934 on Tue, 13 December 2016, 05:57:21
You should really have a definitive set before offering it for sale.
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 13 December 2016, 08:32:27
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 13 December 2016, 10:10:35
Extra 2.25u Shift, 1.25u R4 CapsLock with matching 1.75u R3 Control = first GMK set to achieve nearly full 660-compliance (still need the 1.25 Fn, though) :thumb:
That's an extra thumbs up :thumb:
Good to see the 1u R4 Control and Alt keys added now! Also, I really wish more sets had that bottom row caps-lock like this.
These keycaps make this set a good starting point for a GH-122 build!
- Ron | samwisekoi
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Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 13 December 2016, 10:37:38
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 13 December 2016, 10:37:58
Extra 2.25u Shift, 1.25u R4 CapsLock with matching 1.75u R3 Control = first GMK set to achieve nearly full 660-compliance (still need the 1.25 Fn, though) :thumb:
That's an extra thumbs up :thumb:Good to see the 1u R4 Control and Alt keys added now! Also, I really wish more sets had that bottom row caps-lock like this.
These keycaps make this set a good starting point for a GH-122 build!
- Ron | samwisekoi
[attachimg=1]
Thanks!!
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 13 December 2016, 10:57:38
If the WIN key is that important to people I'll look at paying out of my own pocket for them.
I don't really care about Code vs WIN (personally I like diamonds), but when Sherryton returns you guys should definitely contact everyone who has already bought in and give them a chance for a refund. Adding keys is one thing but removing keys is no good. I also agree that this sort of thing should've been sorted out prior to launching the GB.
FWIW, I do not believe there was/is any intention to deceive. I love the set and I am grateful for the work that livingspeedbump and Sherryton have done to bring us this GB. Thank you.
Post by: tinyprawn on Tue, 13 December 2016, 14:07:45
We are going full scoops. We will also change the Windows to 'CODE' for 1u.
This spicy thread needs more spice!
I PREFER BARS OR DOTS TO SCOOPS FOR HOMING KEYS. THANKS.
I'm not great at spiciness. I am disappointed.
Post by: naasfu on Tue, 13 December 2016, 14:23:25
full scoops? wow, sorry for that. It was a nice color anyway... great taste except for the red iso :-)
I was trying to do everyone a favor.
I thought it looked pretty sexyShow Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9a/d5/0c/9ad50c88dca24918405b249228baa892.jpg)
lsb, does full scoops mean that all keys are scooped? that does sound interesting for a gmk set but i am a bit concerned about how usable that would be for me. personally i like the sculpted look of SA but functionally it is "untypeable" for me. there's the height issue but i also think it has to do with the sculpted tops as well.
i have round 5 SA and love the colorway but i really can't use it much, and i was very excited to see you guys creating this colorway in gmk form. but full scooped gmk has me worried, and i was really hoping for traditional gmk since that works great for me. full scoops is what SA group buys are for haha.
i already have an order placed and am willing to take the chance for this colorway that i love, but i would very much prefer if we could avoid doing full scoops.
Post by: oatmicro on Tue, 13 December 2016, 15:12:06
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 13 December 2016, 16:01:51
If the WIN key is that important to people I'll look at paying out of my own pocket for them.
I don't really care about Code vs WIN (personally I like diamonds), but when Sherryton returns you guys should definitely contact everyone who has already bought in and give them a chance for a refund. Adding keys is one thing but removing keys is no good. I also agree that this sort of thing should've been sorted out prior to launching the GB.
FWIW, I do not believe there was/is any intention to deceive. I love the set and I am grateful for the work that livingspeedbump and Sherryton have done to bring us this GB. Thank you.
I won't disagree, and I'm sure that can/will happen should that change happen. With all the backlash who knows. This is just a case of trying to help folks and it biting you in the ass, hard.
I can assure you we will make sure it is sorted and that everyone is crystal clear on the set asap, and those purchased already will also know. Thank you for the way you addressed this and your concern :thumb:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 13 December 2016, 16:03:18
full scoops? wow, sorry for that. It was a nice color anyway... great taste except for the red iso :-)
I was trying to do everyone a favor.
I thought it looked pretty sexyShow Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9a/d5/0c/9ad50c88dca24918405b249228baa892.jpg)
lsb, does full scoops mean that all keys are scooped? that does sound interesting for a gmk set but i am a bit concerned about how usable that would be for me. personally i like the sculpted look of SA but functionally it is "untypeable" for me. there's the height issue but i also think it has to do with the sculpted tops as well.
i have round 5 SA and love the colorway but i really can't use it much, and i was very excited to see you guys creating this colorway in gmk form. but full scooped gmk has me worried, and i was really hoping for traditional gmk since that works great for me. full scoops is what SA group buys are for haha.
i already have an order placed and am willing to take the chance for this colorway that i love, but i would very much prefer if we could avoid doing full scoops.
Honestly, I'm not sure. I will find out asap :-X As far as I know "full scoops" doesn't mean every key is a scooped key, I was under the assumption that was just in reference tot he homing keys.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 13 December 2016, 16:03:37
a lot of drama here, it not smooth as I expected.
tell me about it. :-\ :-[
Post by: oatmicro on Tue, 13 December 2016, 16:56:06
a lot of drama here, it not smooth as I expected.
tell me about it. :-\ :-[
it doesn't matter, at the begining I expected this gb will keep running without any problem and hit MOQ easily.
after first changing i just worried because people look upset about it because they are thinking it not fair for them.
with newMOQ(250) every orders is very important to make this set happen, it hurts to see this gb has a bad time like this.
I really like this set and hope people can comply with this changing.
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 13 December 2016, 16:58:08
If the WIN key is that important to people I'll look at paying out of my own pocket for them.
I don't really care about Code vs WIN (personally I like diamonds), but when Sherryton returns you guys should definitely contact everyone who has already bought in and give them a chance for a refund. Adding keys is one thing but removing keys is no good. I also agree that this sort of thing should've been sorted out prior to launching the GB.
FWIW, I do not believe there was/is any intention to deceive. I love the set and I am grateful for the work that livingspeedbump and Sherryton have done to bring us this GB. Thank you.
I won't disagree, and I'm sure that can/will happen should that change happen. With all the backlash who knows. This is just a case of trying to help folks and it biting you in the ass, hard.
I can assure you we will make sure it is sorted and that everyone is crystal clear on the set asap, and those purchased already will also know. Thank you for the way you addressed this and your concern :thumb:
Okay, thank you. Personally, I have no intention of backing out due to something like Win keys or scoops. IMHO, this is the prettiest of all the *retro* sets. :)
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 13 December 2016, 17:31:27
Let's make group buys fun again.
Post by: Cotay on Tue, 13 December 2016, 18:19:03
a lot of drama here, it not smooth as I expected.
If you need more drama, head on over to Reddit where some dudes are amping it up with name calling. Unreal! I feel sorry for livingspeedbump; do the community a favor and promptly get the shaft.
Now I would personally prefer the 1u Windows logo keys, but it is by no means a make or break change for me.
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 13 December 2016, 18:25:43
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 13 December 2016, 18:45:47
full scoops? wow, sorry for that. It was a nice color anyway... great taste except for the red iso :-)
I was trying to do everyone a favor.
I thought it looked pretty sexyShow Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9a/d5/0c/9ad50c88dca24918405b249228baa892.jpg)
lsb, does full scoops mean that all keys are scooped? that does sound interesting for a gmk set but i am a bit concerned about how usable that would be for me. personally i like the sculpted look of SA but functionally it is "untypeable" for me. there's the height issue but i also think it has to do with the sculpted tops as well.
i have round 5 SA and love the colorway but i really can't use it much, and i was very excited to see you guys creating this colorway in gmk form. but full scooped gmk has me worried, and i was really hoping for traditional gmk since that works great for me. full scoops is what SA group buys are for haha.
i already have an order placed and am willing to take the chance for this colorway that i love, but i would very much prefer if we could avoid doing full scoops.
Ok, i checked on this. There are F & J with Scoops in the 104 set and F & J with bars included as extras. All keys are not scoops! It is totally normal in this sense, the wording may have just been wonky where you saw that.
I liked the homing bars, but I'll probably pick up a set anyways
Yes there are still a set of homing bars included with the set :thumb:
Finally, I DO understand the frustration of a change mid buy. This is rather difficult to do at times logistically with me (designer) talking with my co-designer and the vendor (Sherry) across quite a distance over the holidays with both of us trying to travel. BUT we did just have a nice talk and we will be looking into how to make everything right with people. Give us a little time to gather up some thoughts/numbers/etc and we will get back to you soon. Remember we are just two dudes that really want to bring this set to the community. At the end of the day we aren't even really making much on this. I know after my render costs I'll be in almost double what you guys pay for my set
I can assure you no malicious intent was at all caused. I definitely wasn't trying to give myself a headache by trying to secretly change caps and sending out a bunch of sets people weren't 110% sure about what they were getting. So please be a little patient and we will get back to you asap.
Post by: naasfu on Tue, 13 December 2016, 19:29:53
full scoops? wow, sorry for that. It was a nice color anyway... great taste except for the red iso :-)
I was trying to do everyone a favor.
I thought it looked pretty sexyShow Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9a/d5/0c/9ad50c88dca24918405b249228baa892.jpg)
lsb, does full scoops mean that all keys are scooped? that does sound interesting for a gmk set but i am a bit concerned about how usable that would be for me. personally i like the sculpted look of SA but functionally it is "untypeable" for me. there's the height issue but i also think it has to do with the sculpted tops as well.
i have round 5 SA and love the colorway but i really can't use it much, and i was very excited to see you guys creating this colorway in gmk form. but full scooped gmk has me worried, and i was really hoping for traditional gmk since that works great for me. full scoops is what SA group buys are for haha.
i already have an order placed and am willing to take the chance for this colorway that i love, but i would very much prefer if we could avoid doing full scoops.
Ok, i checked on this. There are F & J with Scoops in the 104 set and F & J with bars included as extras. All keys are not scoops! It is totally normal in this sense, the wording may have just been wonky where you saw that.
ah great, thanks for verifying. sherry posted about "full scoops" (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86286.msg2318734#msg2318734) earlier, and then you had replied later with pics of full SA keysets, so i was wondering what was going on. normally buys will mention F & J or homing keys. maybe gmk has "half scoops" or something, haha.
Post by: skcheng on Tue, 13 December 2016, 21:00:11
Post by: frostylove on Tue, 13 December 2016, 21:03:30
Definitely in :cool:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 13 December 2016, 21:04:38
Okay, sooooo this set with include F/J caps with bars as extras?? I'm so confused LOL!! Thanks!! Love the set and it will go well with all of my "red" anodized keyboards.
Yes the set includes scooped F and J keys, as well as bars F and J keys :thumb:
So you can decide on scoops or bars. The "5" on the numpad will only be a bar key
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 13 December 2016, 21:05:54
full scoops? wow, sorry for that. It was a nice color anyway... great taste except for the red iso :-)
I was trying to do everyone a favor.
I thought it looked pretty sexyShow Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9a/d5/0c/9ad50c88dca24918405b249228baa892.jpg)
lsb, does full scoops mean that all keys are scooped? that does sound interesting for a gmk set but i am a bit concerned about how usable that would be for me. personally i like the sculpted look of SA but functionally it is "untypeable" for me. there's the height issue but i also think it has to do with the sculpted tops as well.
i have round 5 SA and love the colorway but i really can't use it much, and i was very excited to see you guys creating this colorway in gmk form. but full scooped gmk has me worried, and i was really hoping for traditional gmk since that works great for me. full scoops is what SA group buys are for haha.
i already have an order placed and am willing to take the chance for this colorway that i love, but i would very much prefer if we could avoid doing full scoops.
Ok, i checked on this. There are F & J with Scoops in the 104 set and F & J with bars included as extras. All keys are not scoops! It is totally normal in this sense, the wording may have just been wonky where you saw that.
ah great, thanks for verifying. sherry posted about "full scoops" (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86286.msg2318734#msg2318734) earlier, and then you had replied later with pics of full SA keysets, so i was wondering what was going on. normally buys will mention F & J or homing keys. maybe gmk has "half scoops" or something, haha.
ah yeah, that makes sense! a full set of scoops lol....yeah you'd have a right to be a little hesitant and curious about that one. I think it will feel much better when I make an SA set of all homing keys, can't say Id want a GMK set of "all scoops" though lol.
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 13 December 2016, 22:29:56
Post by: Endeavour1934 on Wed, 14 December 2016, 11:48:11
I've tried using Carbon with "Code" instead of a proper icon and it doesn't work for me. Maybe I'm stupid, but every time I have to do Win+something or Fn+whatever I always end up looking at the keyboard for a couple of seconds thinking which key I need to press. That never happened to me with icon/logo keys. So the thing is, I'll never buy again a set without proper icon/logo keys. Win10 or Diamond (which is a classic Meta symbol from Sun, so nobody should have a problem with it) are the best options, IMHO.
If the WIN key is that important to people I'll look at paying out of my own pocket for them.I'm willing to pay $10-20 more just for a couple of logo keys. That's how important they are for me :(
I really like this set, so if you decide to include those keys in this round or in the next ones (it should be a success, at least I think it looks better than most of the GBs in this forum) count me in.
Post by: dsaf on Wed, 14 December 2016, 12:54:32
You should really have a definitive set before offering it for sale.
"Interest Checks" sub-forum is quite useful for this. Though it does mean publishing your plans in front of competitors...
Post by: kokokoy on Wed, 14 December 2016, 20:41:53
Post by: CMYK on Thu, 15 December 2016, 11:33:23
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Post by: mattgrimes on Thu, 15 December 2016, 21:32:37
PS geez are people normally this rude to GB runners? Give the guy a break. He's just trying to do what's best for everyone :(
edit: I stand corrected. 1800 uses 1U R4 "0". Well regardless, can us stand-alone numpadders get a hook up? I would have no problem paying a few $ extra to get that keycap.
Post by: Hoaryhag on Fri, 16 December 2016, 01:13:32
Post by: simonyunhe on Fri, 16 December 2016, 02:20:29
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 16 December 2016, 02:48:08
Any way we can get a 1U R4 "00" to accompany that 1U R4 "0" (I can't think of a layout in which you could use a 1U R4 0 without a 1U R4 00)? Also, There is a 6U space bar included, correct? If yes to both, I am in!
PS geez are people normally this rude to GB runners? Give the guy a break. He's just trying to do what's best for everyone :(
1800 is a common enthusiast layout that uses 1u zero and not 1u 00. I'd say this is more popular among enthusiasts than full numpad with the tqo zeroes
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 16 December 2016, 02:53:51
You should really have a definitive set before offering it for sale.
"Interest Checks" sub-forum is quite useful for this. Though it does mean publishing your plans in front of competitors...
well... that's a (very small) risk we must take.
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 16 December 2016, 19:50:14
Update #1:
Thank you everyone who have participated in the Honeywell Group Buy so far and have continued to support us. For the people that have already joined, you guys will get our new updated kit with the extra keys at no extra cost. For all new participants, the cost have increased by $6. Andy and I will fill in the rest of the payments to help incur the costs.
Update #2:
There's a new color used on the grey. The grey is GPA which is almost exactly the same grey used on the SA Honeywell. The MOQ is 250, but I promised 150 MOQ. With all the support we got with this group buy, I'm willing to push the set myself. The set will go through. We will make payment to GMK next week. Feel free to continue ordering until January!
Also the render has been updated. My goal is not to make you pay for an item and then change the item to a completely different item without the customer's authorization. I will send updates through e-mail when we make a final decision on the item. As we only added extra items but not take out any other items, we did not need to send out any e-mails.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 16 December 2016, 19:51:34
General summary of the FINAL update: All changes have been added on top of all the original keys. If you already purchased the set, you get these keys for free! We are covering the cost. If you join now, the cost has risen a nominal $5, but you get all of the additional keys and coverage.
We are sorry for any frustration, we really do hope you guys enjoy this set :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Sherry is absolutely the man for making this happen.
Post by: Jedi on Fri, 16 December 2016, 20:03:45
This is really nice work. Already in for a set. Thanks sherryton and livingspeedbump!
Post by: ceflame on Fri, 16 December 2016, 20:10:25
Joining in for a set now! p.s. still hate sales tax :(
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 16 December 2016, 20:19:53
p.s. still hate sales tax :(
ain't that the truth >:D
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 16 December 2016, 20:36:24
OP has been updated by Sherry.
General summary of the FINAL update: All changes have been added on top of all the original keys. If you already purchased the set, you get these keys for free! We are covering the cost. If you join now, the cost has risen a nominal $5, but you get all of the additional keys and coverage.
We are sorry for any frustration, we really do hope you guys enjoy this set :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Sherry is absolutely the man for making this happen.
This means if we buy the set right up until the cut off date (January 17th) we can still get the 6 UK keys? For $5 I think it's worth it! Are there any price hikes between now and then? (i.e. if I order on the 16th of January will the price still be $135?)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 16 December 2016, 20:44:47
OP has been updated by Sherry.
General summary of the FINAL update: All changes have been added on top of all the original keys. If you already purchased the set, you get these keys for free! We are covering the cost. If you join now, the cost has risen a nominal $5, but you get all of the additional keys and coverage.
We are sorry for any frustration, we really do hope you guys enjoy this set :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Sherry is absolutely the man for making this happen.
This means if we buy the set right up until the cut off date (January 17th) we can still get the 6 UK keys? For $5 I think it's worth it! Are there any price hikes between now and then? (i.e. if I order on the 16th of January will the price still be $135?)
Yes, this is correct. The price will only go up now after the GB is over and leftovers sell for retail.
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 16 December 2016, 20:45:02
OP has been updated by Sherry.
General summary of the FINAL update: All changes have been added on top of all the original keys. If you already purchased the set, you get these keys for free! We are covering the cost. If you join now, the cost has risen a nominal $5, but you get all of the additional keys and coverage.
We are sorry for any frustration, we really do hope you guys enjoy this set :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Sherry is absolutely the man for making this happen.
This means if we buy the set right up until the cut off date (January 17th) we can still get the 6 UK keys? For $5 I think it's worth it! Are there any price hikes between now and then? (i.e. if I order on the 16th of January will the price still be $135?)
Yes! I think the date ends on January 13th. There should be leftovers though!
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Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 16 December 2016, 20:47:20
OP has been updated by Sherry.
General summary of the FINAL update: All changes have been added on top of all the original keys. If you already purchased the set, you get these keys for free! We are covering the cost. If you join now, the cost has risen a nominal $5, but you get all of the additional keys and coverage.
We are sorry for any frustration, we really do hope you guys enjoy this set :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Sherry is absolutely the man for making this happen.
This means if we buy the set right up until the cut off date (January 17th) we can still get the 6 UK keys? For $5 I think it's worth it! Are there any price hikes between now and then? (i.e. if I order on the 16th of January will the price still be $135?)
Yes! I think the date ends on January 13th. There should be leftovers though!
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Thanks for the confirmation, happy days!!!
Post by: gadzkun on Fri, 16 December 2016, 21:20:55
cause i want to buy spacebars from originative too if its V1.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 16 December 2016, 23:08:19
need an answer splease, are the red color is custom too or is it V1 red?
cause i want to buy spacebars from originative too if its V1.
it is RO2, not V1
Post by: gadzkun on Fri, 16 December 2016, 23:42:36
need an answer splease, are the red color is custom too or is it V1 red?
cause i want to buy spacebars from originative too if its V1.
it is RO2, not V1
thx :)
ok now i dont need to buy additional spacebar cause its different xD
joining~ :thumb:
Post by: Endeavour1934 on Sat, 17 December 2016, 16:12:26
Thank you everyone who have participated in the Honeywell Group Buy so far and have continued to support us. For the people that have already joined, you guys will get our new updated kit with the extra keys at no extra cost. For all new participants, the cost have increased by $6. Andy and I will fill in the rest of the payments to help incur the costs.
General summary of the FINAL update: All changes have been added on top of all the original keys. If you already purchased the set, you get these keys for free! We are covering the cost. If you join now, the cost has risen a nominal $5, but you get all of the additional keys and coverage.Great news! As I've said earlier, now that the set has everything I need I'm back in the GB! :D Thank you to both of you!
it is RO2, not V1Nice! From the photos I've seen RO2 looks way better than V1.
Post by: soilheart on Sat, 17 December 2016, 16:28:10
(I can't seem to find the delete button, is there one around?)
Post by: Unforgivable on Sat, 17 December 2016, 19:40:22
Post by: bmilcs on Mon, 19 December 2016, 08:01:07
Post by: kmba on Mon, 19 December 2016, 08:37:42
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 19 December 2016, 09:58:05
Taking a quick glance and wondering if this will fit an Ortholinear board. It doesn't look it but can you add Planck compatibility? :D
Not this time. We tried to keep the price as low as possible. Also, see earlier in this thread to see what happens when we listen to people mid-buy :-X :-\
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 19 December 2016, 09:58:29
Very happy this supports 65% layout, but what does everyone think I should use as a 1u R1 backspace key for my 68 key?
There is a R1 1u Delete key that would work just fine.
Post by: kmba on Mon, 19 December 2016, 10:05:26
Post by: Cherry1990 on Tue, 20 December 2016, 16:13:26
After all, GMK is in Germany, and it is crazy (and sad!) for us Europeans to pay custom and shipment two times...
Post by: apfrancia on Tue, 20 December 2016, 19:08:05
Any possibility to have an European proxy, to get a shipment from Europe instead from USA?
After all, GMK is in Germany, and it is crazy (and sad!) for us Europeans to pay custom and shipment two times...
and to asia as well :-[
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 20 December 2016, 19:37:06
Any possibility to have an European proxy, to get a shipment from Europe instead from USA?
After all, GMK is in Germany, and it is crazy (and sad!) for us Europeans to pay custom and shipment two times...
Agreed, if GMK was to be kept within Europe we'd save an insane amount of money, I wish there was a way - making that logistically possible however is probably not going to be very easy.
Post by: ceflame on Tue, 20 December 2016, 21:50:45
Any possibility to have an European proxy, to get a shipment from Europe instead from USA?
After all, GMK is in Germany, and it is crazy (and sad!) for us Europeans to pay custom and shipment two times...
The caps are only produced by GMK. The retailer you're buying from is Originative.
I don't think it's that crazy if you think of it that way. And can you explain what you mean by paying custom and shipment two times?
Post by: kokokoy on Tue, 20 December 2016, 22:56:14
Any possibility to have an European proxy, to get a shipment from Europe instead from USA?
After all, GMK is in Germany, and it is crazy (and sad!) for us Europeans to pay custom and shipment two times...
The caps are only produced by GMK. The retailer you're buying from is Originative.
I don't think it's that crazy if you think of it that way. And can you explain what you mean by paying custom and shipment two times?
This is not a vendor sale though they are part of who is running it. This is a GB at a GB price. Originative would be selling it on a retail after GB closes.
Tax I believe is from GMK > US (we all pay) and then US > buyer (EU pay again).
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 20 December 2016, 23:12:56
Any possibility to have an European proxy, to get a shipment from Europe instead from USA?
After all, GMK is in Germany, and it is crazy (and sad!) for us Europeans to pay custom and shipment two times...
The caps are only produced by GMK. The retailer you're buying from is Originative.
I don't think it's that crazy if you think of it that way. And can you explain what you mean by paying custom and shipment two times?
This is not a vendor sale though they are part of who is running it. This is a GB at a GB price. Originative would be selling it on a retail after GB closes.
Tax I believe is from GMK > US (we all pay) and then US > buyer (EU pay again).
You're buying the set from a vendor, by definition this is a vendor sale.
Post by: PriusProblems on Wed, 21 December 2016, 01:12:22
Post by: poolside on Wed, 21 December 2016, 05:30:08
Mildy confused here - is ISO removed or not? The OP, kbdist, and Originativeco all show and mention the inclusion of ISO UK caps.
ISO UK has been removed at some time but it is now back into the set. The renders you mention are up to date.
Edit: ISO UK
Post by: PriusProblems on Wed, 21 December 2016, 05:57:23
Okay, thanks.Mildy confused here - is ISO removed or not? The OP, kbdist, and Originativeco all show and mention the inclusion of ISO UK caps.
ISO has been removed at some time but it is now back into the set. The renders you mention are up to date.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 21 December 2016, 09:23:53
Any possibility to have an European proxy, to get a shipment from Europe instead from USA?
After all, GMK is in Germany, and it is crazy (and sad!) for us Europeans to pay custom and shipment two times...
Agreed, if GMK was to be kept within Europe we'd save an insane amount of money, I wish there was a way - making that logistically possible however is probably not going to be very easy.
Yeah this is true, but sadly not how it works. GMK sends out the full bulk shipment to whoever ordered it, in this case to Originative. We are saving money as a group buy because GMK is doing it as a bulk shipment, when they have to start counting sets, sorting them out, and shipping them to multiple places that group buy savings goes way down, price for everyone goes way up. It makes sense, but its no different than when people run buys in the UK from SP and all the sets are shipped there. Maybe one day there will be a good solution to this, I do understand how that would be frustrating.
This is not a vendor sale though they are part of who is running it. This is a GB at a GB price. Originative would be selling it on a retail after GB closes.
Tax I believe is from GMK > US (we all pay) and then US > buyer (EU pay again).
Nope. This is DEFINITELY a vendor sale. Vendors CAN run group buys too ya know. If your logic was the case, Massdrop wouldnt be a vendor haha.
Originative will sell at retail after a group buy for a higher cost, because he shells out his own money to purchase extra sets, and that is a way to recoup the cost and have enough to run the next buy. Im 110% for selling retail sets for a significant amount more than group buy price, to encourage people to join the buy and help everyone save money. There have been times even I've not had money for a buy and known I'd be paying quite a bit more for a set later. I did that for Hyperfuse R2 actually.
Mildy confused here - is ISO removed or not? The OP, kbdist, and Originativeco all show and mention the inclusion of ISO UK caps.
ISO UK has been removed at some time but it is now back into the set. The renders you mention are up to date.
Edit: ISO UK
Yes, all renders are up to date now :thumb: What you see is what you get!
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 21 December 2016, 10:13:56
great work
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 21 December 2016, 11:46:09
fantastic looling set guys
great work
Thanks Bunny :thumb:
Hope the holidays are treating you well on the other side of the pond
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 21 December 2016, 12:04:03
Extra 2.25u Shift, 1.25u R4 CapsLock with matching 1.75u R3 Control = first GMK set to achieve nearly full 660-compliance (still need the 1.25 Fn, though) :thumb:
That's an extra thumbs up :thumb:
The WIN logo key has been changed to "Code" so hopefully that works better for you, and everyone on other OS' as well. Fit the theme more I believe too. All in all just a more useful key I think.
Booya. I should have done the same with my stormtrooper buy, but went with blanks instead. UNIX/Linux/MacOS users unite!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 21 December 2016, 17:28:42
Booya. I should have done the same with my stormtrooper buy, but went with blanks instead. UNIX/Linux/MacOS users unite!
Linux users, destroy the peasants >:D
:-* :))
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 22 December 2016, 16:38:50
Post by: WillSK on Fri, 23 December 2016, 13:07:11
Sooo before I drop a considerable amount of cash on this set can it please be clarified if I will be getting FULL ISO support I.e the relevant 2 key and £ key etc. I don't really want to buy if I'm not getting everything to do a full key swap out on my Filco TKL with exactly the correct keys.
Thanks in advance
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 23 December 2016, 13:17:12
Hey guys,
Sooo before I drop a considerable amount of cash on this set can it please be clarified if I will be getting FULL ISO support I.e the relevant 2 key and £ key etc. I don't really want to buy if I'm not getting everything to do a full key swap out on my Filco TKL with exactly the correct keys.
Thanks in advance
Yes. If it is in the render in the OP you will get the cap at this point. nothing else is or will change. :thumb:
Post by: MMKB on Fri, 23 December 2016, 22:51:55
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 23 December 2016, 22:58:12
Could sherryton share a picture of the GPA color chip if possible? I couldn't find any sample online and the rendered modifiers looks green-ish to me.
here's another render
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/1905/products/honeywell_1024x1024.jpg?v=1481938885)
Post by: gadzkun on Fri, 23 December 2016, 23:53:02
Could sherryton share a picture of the GPA color chip if possible? I couldn't find any sample online and the rendered modifiers looks green-ish to me.
i think this is the right one
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0c/86/0e/0c860e9bbcf06f8f96eb7ffd17a3598b.jpg)
Post by: WillSK on Sat, 24 December 2016, 10:50:49
Post by: neon_tom on Sat, 24 December 2016, 13:42:47
officially IN the GB. My first GB and my first aftermarket Keyset for my keyboard :) Cheers guys!
Great choice for a first set! I'm sure you'll be very happy you joined!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 24 December 2016, 16:45:42
officially IN the GB. My first GB and my first aftermarket Keyset for my keyboard :) Cheers guys!
Awesome! Thanks for the support! We do really hope you enjoy it in the end!
Post by: Cotay on Sun, 25 December 2016, 18:17:17
Post by: shawn o on Sun, 25 December 2016, 20:28:38
Post by: gandroider on Tue, 27 December 2016, 23:03:27
Thanks
Post by: poolside on Wed, 28 December 2016, 06:08:53
Will it support 1800 layout?
Thanks
Yes. The render has the keys needed to support that layout (numpad area and most bottom rows).
Post by: NorrisB on Thu, 29 December 2016, 09:48:16
Post by: MMKB on Thu, 29 December 2016, 10:59:10
Could sherryton share a picture of the GPA color chip if possible? I couldn't find any sample online and the rendered modifiers looks green-ish to me.
i think this is the right oneShow Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0c/86/0e/0c860e9bbcf06f8f96eb7ffd17a3598b.jpg)
Thanks you. Joined!
Post by: Chazmondo on Fri, 30 December 2016, 10:07:04
Post by: axtran on Tue, 03 January 2017, 00:15:33
Joined! This hobby is getting expensive...
Yep. I have been hoarding GMK sets and not using them, either. :)
Post by: neon_tom on Tue, 03 January 2017, 06:37:35
Joined! This hobby is getting expensive...
Yep. I have been hoarding GMK sets and not using them, either. :)
But you need to be prepared. You never know when you'll need them!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 03 January 2017, 15:01:43
Thanks to all those who have already joined :-*
Post by: smittysteve on Tue, 03 January 2017, 15:05:58
Just checking in, everything is going as planned and scheduled still :thumb:
Thanks to all those who have already joined :-*
Was stalling through the holidays but plan to join soon. When does the price go up from GB to pre-order? (Need a deadline to do my best purchasing...)
Post by: Zanduby on Tue, 03 January 2017, 15:06:41
Just checking in, everything is going as planned and scheduled still :thumb:
Thanks to all those who have already joined :-*
Depending on a certain item coming in this week i plan on joining the buy at the end of the week.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 03 January 2017, 15:09:06
Just checking in, everything is going as planned and scheduled still :thumb:
Thanks to all those who have already joined :-*
Was stalling through the holidays but plan to join soon. When does the price go up from GB to pre-order? (Need a deadline to do my best purchasing...)
I had to doublecheck myself. The website states "January 13, 2017 - Group buy orders will end" so I would assume that is the date still.
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 03 January 2017, 15:54:25
Just checking in, everything is going as planned and scheduled still :thumb:
Thanks to all those who have already joined :-*
Was stalling through the holidays but plan to join soon. When does the price go up from GB to pre-order? (Need a deadline to do my best purchasing...)
I had to doublecheck myself. The website states "January 13, 2017 - Group buy orders will end" so I would assume that is the date still.
Same date!
Post by: smittysteve on Tue, 03 January 2017, 17:20:47
Just checking in, everything is going as planned and scheduled still :thumb:
Thanks to all those who have already joined :-*
Was stalling through the holidays but plan to join soon. When does the price go up from GB to pre-order? (Need a deadline to do my best purchasing...)
I had to doublecheck myself. The website states "January 13, 2017 - Group buy orders will end" so I would assume that is the date still.
Same date!
Cool, thanks to you both!
Post by: Zanduby on Sat, 07 January 2017, 13:08:55
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 10 January 2017, 01:15:33
Sorry about the lack of updates. Things have been real busy at Ocorp. The support has been tremendous. We have sold a little over 130, and we aren't done yet.
A few updates I like to make:
1. Payment will go to GMK this week.
2. I have the samples for the colors, and I'll update that tomorrow.
2a. The grey is a custom color, the exact one used for SA honeywell, and is a darker color than the one originally planned. It's a really nice color.
The white will most likely be CP to help compliment the darker grey.
I'll let you guys know when the payment has been submitted and if there is any other new information.
Post by: PoisonKing on Tue, 10 January 2017, 01:25:45
hey guys,
Sorry about the lack of updates. Things have been real busy at Ocorp. The support has been tremendous. We have sold a little over 130, and we aren't done yet.
A few updates I like to make:
1. Payment will go to GMK this week.
2. I have the samples for the colors, and I'll update that tomorrow.
2a. The grey is a custom color, the exact one used for SA honeywell, and is a darker color than the one originally planned. It's a really nice color.
The white will most likely be CP to help compliment the darker grey.
I'll let you guys know when the payment has been submitted and if there is any other new information.
Please post the color samples, I'm still undecided to join the GB
Post by: WillSK on Tue, 10 January 2017, 04:02:48
hey guys,
Sorry about the lack of updates. Things have been real busy at Ocorp. The support has been tremendous. We have sold a little over 130, and we aren't done yet.
A few updates I like to make:
1. Payment will go to GMK this week.
2. I have the samples for the colors, and I'll update that tomorrow.
2a. The grey is a custom color, the exact one used for SA honeywell, and is a darker color than the one originally planned. It's a really nice color.
The white will most likely be CP to help compliment the darker grey.
I'll let you guys know when the payment has been submitted and if there is any other new information.
Thanks for the update :) I'm actually happy to hear it'll be a nice dark grey. It'll go with my desk set up :p
As the post above says we'd love to see the colour samples as soon as we can
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 10 January 2017, 04:14:39
Sent from my microwave oven using alternating current
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 10 January 2017, 15:53:04
(http://imgur.com/EORjbDR.jpg)
Post by: oatmicro on Tue, 10 January 2017, 16:11:43
I would like to take another set but I can't.... :'(
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 10 January 2017, 16:26:07
I present... Honeywell colors!Show Image(http://imgur.com/EORjbDR.jpg)
:eek: :eek: :eek: :-*
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 10 January 2017, 16:30:34
(http://i.imgur.com/nvVjAHU.jpg)
Post by: Zanduby on Tue, 10 January 2017, 16:51:29
I present... Honeywell colors!(http://i.imgur.com/NrWijXP.jpg)Show Image(http://imgur.com/EORjbDR.jpg)
yes.... yessssss... this will do nicely....
Post by: neon_tom on Tue, 10 January 2017, 17:12:18
I present... Honeywell colors!Show Image(http://imgur.com/EORjbDR.jpg)
(http://couchlocked.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/giddy_thumb.gif)
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 10 January 2017, 17:20:39
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 10 January 2017, 17:30:35
I present... Honeywell colors!Show Image(http://imgur.com/EORjbDR.jpg)
Hot damn, that is sexy.
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 10 January 2017, 18:00:43
Reddit user Grokodaemon posted some awesome renders of what he will be doing with his set :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nvVjAHU.jpg)
one of the best renders ive seen in a long time
Post by: frostylove on Tue, 10 January 2017, 18:45:12
I present... Honeywell colors!Show Image(http://imgur.com/EORjbDR.jpg)
Will the font color of alphas be N9 or CP?
Post by: Chazmondo on Tue, 10 January 2017, 21:03:34
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 10 January 2017, 21:43:21
I present... Honeywell colors!Show Image(http://imgur.com/EORjbDR.jpg)
Will the font color of alphas be N9 or CP?
Neither! The custom dark grey!
From light grey and white to dark grey and beige... I thought no more changes were going to occur. Is CP the same alpha colour as the SA set? The SA alpha caps look more white than beige to me.
It's not beige. It's actually white. The initial color was 2M which is the one used on HyperFuse. 2M is white colored with grey-ish hints in it. CP is more white. Neither of these colors are beige.
Post by: kmba on Tue, 10 January 2017, 22:30:00
zoom in on this. You'll see CP is pretty white, while 2M has a definite gray tone, and WS1 is just a little whiter than CP.
(http://i.imgur.com/4HansnG.jpg)
Post by: rabbitfire on Tue, 10 January 2017, 23:09:30
Reddit user Grokodaemon posted some awesome renders of what he will be doing with his set :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nvVjAHU.jpg)
This render makes me join this GB :)) :)) :))
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 10 January 2017, 23:45:35
GMK CP is "white".. just not bright white. It's not beige. It's one shade away from their default whitest WS1. The lighting in the photo is deceiving, and I suspect it also makes the gray darker than reality.
zoom in on this. You'll see CP is pretty white, while 2M has a definite gray tone, and WS1 is just a little whiter than CP.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4HansnG.jpg)
Yeah, exactly. WS1 is almost pure white, but CP is like in between. I think it's the perfect white for this set.
Post by: tron on Wed, 11 January 2017, 00:03:26
GMK CP is "white".. just not bright white. It's not beige. It's one shade away from their default whitest WS1. The lighting in the photo is deceiving, and I suspect it also makes the gray darker than reality.
zoom in on this. You'll see CP is pretty white, while 2M has a definite gray tone, and WS1 is just a little whiter than CP.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4HansnG.jpg)
Yeah, exactly. WS1 is almost pure white, but CP is like in between. I think it's the perfect white for this set.
Just wondering if this shade of white will match the originative black/white set. A num pad or arrow cluster with white legends on black keys would look really nice as an accent.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 11 January 2017, 00:15:02
I can't tell you how badly I want that keywokI present... Honeywell colors!Show Image(http://imgur.com/EORjbDR.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NrWijXP.jpg)
yes.... yessssss... this will do nicely....
Sent from my microwave oven using alternating current
Post by: drkk on Wed, 11 January 2017, 00:32:15
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 11 January 2017, 00:34:43
god damn those samples look good
I agree. When I saw the initial scheme I wasn't thrilled or anything, just on the fence about getting in. But that render and the custom color... bought in 30 minutes later.
Post by: ctrlX on Wed, 11 January 2017, 01:13:35
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 11 January 2017, 01:16:44
GMK CP is "white".. just not bright white. It's not beige. It's one shade away from their default whitest WS1. The lighting in the photo is deceiving, and I suspect it also makes the gray darker than reality.
zoom in on this. You'll see CP is pretty white, while 2M has a definite gray tone, and WS1 is just a little whiter than CP.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4HansnG.jpg)
Yeah, exactly. WS1 is almost pure white, but CP is like in between. I think it's the perfect white for this set.
Just wondering if this shade of white will match the originative black/white set. A num pad or arrow cluster with white legends on black keys would look really nice as an accent.
Close... not exact. The White on Black is WS1.
Post by: Chazmondo on Wed, 11 January 2017, 08:05:01
I present... Honeywell colors!Show Image(http://imgur.com/EORjbDR.jpg)
Will the font color of alphas be N9 or CP?
Neither! The custom dark grey!From light grey and white to dark grey and beige... I thought no more changes were going to occur. Is CP the same alpha colour as the SA set? The SA alpha caps look more white than beige to me.
It's not beige. It's actually white. The initial color was 2M which is the one used on HyperFuse. 2M is white colored with grey-ish hints in it. CP is more white. Neither of these colors are beige.
GMK CP is "white".. just not bright white. It's not beige. It's one shade away from their default whitest WS1. The lighting in the photo is deceiving, and I suspect it also makes the gray darker than reality.
zoom in on this. You'll see CP is pretty white, while 2M has a definite gray tone, and WS1 is just a little whiter than CP.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4HansnG.jpg)
Ah cool, thank you both. I suppose renders are always going to be a bit off. Thanks for clearning up the beige tint to my eyes!
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 11 January 2017, 08:53:01
Ah cool, thank you both. I suppose renders are always going to be a bit off. Thanks for clearning up the beige tint to my eyes!
Another thing to note is that GMK renders are especially notorious, and often appear lighter/more washed out than the actual sets.
Post by: a_ak57 on Wed, 11 January 2017, 09:11:53
Post by: oatmicro on Wed, 11 January 2017, 11:08:25
really remind me of Honeywell samples.
(https://cnet1.cbsistatic.com/img/qWJTnFhyYoJmkjb_Sffl0N6OZWA=/770x433/2017/01/07/e9e83f07-52a0-481e-9ee8-7b408df39a45/flsuperretro.jpg)
it's the Super retro boy.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 11 January 2017, 12:53:14
Ah cool, thank you both. I suppose renders are always going to be a bit off. Thanks for clearning up the beige tint to my eyes!
Another thing to note is that GMK renders are especially notorious, and often appear lighter/more washed out than the actual sets.
These are renders by Zambu, not GMK, just fyi. They should be pretty on point.
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 11 January 2017, 14:10:50
Ah cool, thank you both. I suppose renders are always going to be a bit off. Thanks for clearning up the beige tint to my eyes!
Another thing to note is that GMK renders are especially notorious, and often appear lighter/more washed out than the actual sets.
These are renders by Zambu, not GMK, just fyi. They should be pretty on point.
Good! I like the less saturated, lower contrast look for a classic set like this.
Post by: tron on Wed, 11 January 2017, 16:41:28
saw this on my facebook newfeed.
really remind me of Honeywell samples.Show Image(https://cnet1.cbsistatic.com/img/qWJTnFhyYoJmkjb_Sffl0N6OZWA=/770x433/2017/01/07/e9e83f07-52a0-481e-9ee8-7b408df39a45/flsuperretro.jpg)
it's the Super retro boy.
I know what you're saying. This set reminds me of the 1980's G1 Jetfire colors.
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 11 January 2017, 17:31:48
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 11 January 2017, 17:42:53
I wish the gray were more like "2B", just a little bit darker, if at all. Would have gotten a set if that were the case. Very nice set otherwise.
2B is lighter than the grey we are using. Our grey is a custom color that is more darker/grey than 2B.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 11 January 2017, 19:41:58
I wish the gray were more like "2B", just a little bit darker, if at all. Would have gotten a set if that were the case. Very nice set otherwise.
This is basically exactly what we did :thumb:
Post by: richard912 on Wed, 11 January 2017, 23:31:23
EDIT: NVM, I just re-read the first post again. My bad.
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 11 January 2017, 23:33:17
Why does it show up as $135 on originative's site instead of $129?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86286.msg2321788#msg2321788
Post by: richard912 on Wed, 11 January 2017, 23:50:42
Thanks. In any case, the deed is done. I'm down for one set.Why does it show up as $135 on originative's site instead of $129?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86286.msg2321788#msg2321788
Post by: olijuice on Thu, 12 January 2017, 00:03:37
Post by: WNovizar on Thu, 12 January 2017, 00:46:01
Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 12 January 2017, 12:16:22
Post by: maximm on Thu, 12 January 2017, 14:48:25
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 12 January 2017, 14:50:09
Can i get this shipped with Penumbra/Hyperfuse to save on shipping?
Yes sir! Just send me a pm or an email, and we'll take care of it for you.
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 12 January 2017, 19:00:29
I have no MX boards sadly.
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 12 January 2017, 19:27:43
I bet this colourway will look incredible in real life.
I have no MX boards sadly.
it's time for some sliders unless you only use alps
Post by: paulforgione on Fri, 13 January 2017, 04:18:36
Post by: StormyMonday on Fri, 13 January 2017, 05:32:11
Aaand now I feel like a huge dummy for assuming "ends the 13th" meant the end of the day; I see the price went up. Don't suppose theres any way to get in at $135 since it's still the 13th? :-X
Don't feel bad, I made the same assumption! :(
Post by: PoisonKing on Fri, 13 January 2017, 06:06:55
Aaand now I feel like a huge dummy for assuming "ends the 13th" meant the end of the day; I see the price went up. Don't suppose theres any way to get in at $135 since it's still the 13th? :-X
Don't feel bad, I made the same assumption! :(
Me too :(
Post by: StormyMonday on Fri, 13 January 2017, 06:13:16
Post by: steveachu on Fri, 13 January 2017, 07:11:07
Same here. $155 is a bit of a stretch for me, if there was a warning I would have definitely purchased a few days earlier.Aaand now I feel like a huge dummy for assuming "ends the 13th" meant the end of the day; I see the price went up. Don't suppose theres any way to get in at $135 since it's still the 13th? :-X
Don't feel bad, I made the same assumption! :(
Me too :(
Post by: xondat on Fri, 13 January 2017, 07:35:39
Aaand now I feel like a huge dummy for assuming "ends the 13th" meant the end of the day; I see the price went up. Don't suppose theres any way to get in at $135 since it's still the 13th? :-XWell it always does mean that. Kind of a bummer.
Post by: derzemel on Fri, 13 January 2017, 07:57:04
Post by: Freed on Fri, 13 January 2017, 08:07:35
It's 6:00 AM to los angeles.
Post by: h3xadat on Fri, 13 January 2017, 08:14:17
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 13 January 2017, 12:50:59
Post by: tjweir on Fri, 13 January 2017, 13:09:40
I bet this colourway will look incredible in real life.
I have no MX boards sadly.
it's time for some sliders unless you only use alps
Yes, Alps only. Great set.
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 13 January 2017, 15:05:42
I have refunded everyone who has ordered past midnight and will change the price to $135 until Midnight. Sorry about that!
Happy Friday!
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 13 January 2017, 15:18:47
Hey guys, I definitely made a mistake. I got caught up with MLK and it felt like it was already past Friday.
I have refunded everyone who has ordered past midnight and will change the price to $135 until Midnight. Sorry about that!
Happy Friday!
yuss. thanks sherryton. gonna need a GMK tray group buy soon for all this german plastic i'm collecting... :thumb:
Post by: StormyMonday on Fri, 13 January 2017, 15:19:55
Hey guys, I definitely made a mistake. I got caught up with MLK and it felt like it was already past Friday.
I have refunded everyone who has ordered past midnight and will change the price to $135 until Midnight. Sorry about that!
Happy Friday!
Whoo-hoo!!! :-*
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 13 January 2017, 15:22:14
Hey guys, I definitely made a mistake. I got caught up with MLK and it felt like it was already past Friday.
I have refunded everyone who has ordered past midnight and will change the price to $135 until Midnight. Sorry about that!
Happy Friday!
yuss. thanks sherryton. gonna need a GMK tray group buy soon for all this german plastic i'm collecting... :thumb:
Yeah, we need some more of those. The Honeywell comes with a banderole+tray, but always need extra trays.
Post by: Freed on Fri, 13 January 2017, 16:33:33
Hey guys, I definitely made a mistake. I got caught up with MLK and it felt like it was already past Friday.Thanks sherryton, I'm in ! :thumb:
I have refunded everyone who has ordered past midnight and will change the price to $135 until Midnight. Sorry about that!
Happy Friday!
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 14 January 2017, 07:59:23
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 14 January 2017, 13:01:00
Hey guys, I definitely made a mistake. I got caught up with MLK and it felt like it was already past Friday.
I have refunded everyone who has ordered past midnight and will change the price to $135 until Midnight. Sorry about that!
Happy Friday!
yuss. thanks sherryton. gonna need a GMK tray group buy soon for all this german plastic i'm collecting... :thumb:
afaik this will come with a tray and the nice box with logos!
Post by: profanum429 on Sat, 14 January 2017, 23:08:20
Can't wait to get this in my hands.
Post by: poolside on Sun, 15 January 2017, 07:03:22
Hey guys, I definitely made a mistake. I got caught up with MLK and it felt like it was already past Friday.
I have refunded everyone who has ordered past midnight and will change the price to $135 until Midnight. Sorry about that!
Happy Friday!
yuss. thanks sherryton. gonna need a GMK tray group buy soon for all this german plastic i'm collecting... :thumb:
Yeah, we need some more of those. The Honeywell comes with a banderole+tray, but always need extra trays.
In for the 1.25 R4 CapsLock. Thanks for letting the set run at GB price until the end of the day. :thumb:
Has the banderole design already be decided on?
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 30 January 2017, 13:21:50
Post by: MMKB on Mon, 27 March 2017, 23:22:06
It looks like these sets and the HyperFuse are expected to ship to us on April 28, 2017.
Shower us with pictures then ^-^ ^-^
Post by: moonmaster on Tue, 28 March 2017, 00:52:43
It looks like these sets and the HyperFuse are expected to ship to us on April 28, 2017.Anything new Sherry?
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 28 March 2017, 13:36:56
It looks like these sets and the HyperFuse are expected to ship to us on April 28, 2017.Anything new Sherry?
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
I'll let you guys know by tonight!
Post by: MMKB on Fri, 31 March 2017, 22:59:55
Post by: sherryton on Sat, 01 April 2017, 12:50:42
Could you update us here? :cool: :cool:
Honeywell, HyperFuse Accent, & CMYK (as well as CMYW) -
Production has not began yet
These are still going according to be finished during May
Expected Shipping Date - 5/05
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 05 April 2017, 13:36:36
One of the keys didn't come out great. They made the double-shot wrong, so I am trying to ask for a new one. They said they may give it to us since their key was not aligned with our render. The set may be delayed one week.
Expect the set to be shipped in 5 weeks.
Post by: Freed on Wed, 05 April 2017, 14:28:12
I hope that will be fine.
Post by: moonmaster on Wed, 05 April 2017, 17:50:58
Hey guys,Which key was it?
One of the keys didn't come out great. They made the double-shot wrong, so I am trying to ask for a new one. They said they may give it to us since their key was not aligned with our render. The set may be delayed one week.
Expect the set to be shipped in 5 weeks.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 05 April 2017, 18:14:23
Hey guys,Which key was it?
One of the keys didn't come out great. They made the double-shot wrong, so I am trying to ask for a new one. They said they may give it to us since their key was not aligned with our render. The set may be delayed one week.
Expect the set to be shipped in 5 weeks.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
1.5 R2 Delete key.
Post by: drkk on Thu, 06 April 2017, 10:48:59
Post by: Freed on Wed, 19 April 2017, 02:34:38
http://www.kbdist.com/updates/2017/4/18/april-week-31-update
:thumb:
(http://i.imgur.com/WWFRN7B.jpg)
Post by: moonmaster on Wed, 19 April 2017, 02:47:12
Last update here:Oh wow. That's exciting.
http://www.kbdist.com/updates/2017/4/18/april-week-31-update
:thumb:
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 19 April 2017, 04:29:00
Last update here:It already looks incredible from that picture. I hope the red is a little darker irl.
http://www.kbdist.com/updates/2017/4/18/april-week-31-update
:thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WWFRN7B.jpg)
Post by: cicada on Wed, 19 April 2017, 04:44:41
Last update here:It already looks incredible from that picture. I hope the red is a little darker irl.
http://www.kbdist.com/updates/2017/4/18/april-week-31-update
:thumb:
RO2 is the closest colour to red that GMK currently offers:
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=86616.0;attach=156294;image)
pic courtesy of jebbra
you can always dim your lighting though, works for me everytime :))
Post by: zslane on Wed, 19 April 2017, 12:38:05
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20140709/meta5ute.jpg)
Key features to note (aside from the tall spherical profile, of course) are the all-black numpad, all-gray F-row, and only a small touch of red.
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 19 April 2017, 13:44:06
Last update here:It already looks incredible from that picture. I hope the red is a little darker irl.
http://www.kbdist.com/updates/2017/4/18/april-week-31-update
:thumb:
RO2 is the closest colour to red that GMK currently offers:Show Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=86616.0;attach=156294;image)
pic courtesy of jebbra
you can always dim your lighting though, works for me everytime :))
There's also P3 red which isn't as bright, but it's like a dark red.
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 19 April 2017, 13:44:31
Which Honeywell keyboard is this set modeled after? Round 5/6 HONEY was modeled after this:Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20140709/meta5ute.jpg)
Key features to note (aside from the tall spherical profile, of course) are the all-black numpad, all-gray F-row, and only a small touch of red.
It's our own little take using colors we thought would match really well :)
Post by: moonmaster on Wed, 26 April 2017, 23:10:39
Psyched you guys got it in!
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 26 April 2017, 23:53:06
What's the deal with the red accents mentioned on the current Honeywell "bundle" page? I don't recall having an option to add accents. And if it's a new option, it would be great if GB participants could have first crack at adding it.
Psyched you guys got it in!
Group Buy participants receive it already!
Post by: moonmaster on Thu, 27 April 2017, 03:38:54
NiiiiceWhat's the deal with the red accents mentioned on the current Honeywell "bundle" page? I don't recall having an option to add accents. And if it's a new option, it would be great if GB participants could have first crack at adding it.
Psyched you guys got it in!
Group Buy participants receive it already!
Post by: profanum429 on Thu, 27 April 2017, 06:46:22
What's the deal with the red accents mentioned on the current Honeywell "bundle" page? I don't recall having an option to add accents. And if it's a new option, it would be great if GB participants could have first crack at adding it.
Psyched you guys got it in!
Group Buy participants receive it already!
Does this include those who missed the true GB window and bought it after it closed a few months back when it went to $150ish (can't remember exact price) also? Thanks!
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 27 April 2017, 17:09:12
What's the deal with the red accents mentioned on the current Honeywell "bundle" page? I don't recall having an option to add accents. And if it's a new option, it would be great if GB participants could have first crack at adding it.
Psyched you guys got it in!
Group Buy participants receive it already!
Does this include those who missed the true GB window and bought it after it closed a few months back when it went to $150ish (can't remember exact price) also? Thanks!
Yes, anyone before May 1st at this point!
Post by: zaerst on Thu, 27 April 2017, 22:31:37
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 27 April 2017, 23:44:02
So I was sent an email saying I needed to pay extra for shipping (thought this was always going to be in trays). Anyways, I was like whatever and paid it. Today I noticed that the extra shipping charge was refunded?
Yeah, I guess the trays were weighed in under a pound at the time, and I was able to change it after the first few 50 orders. If you got a refund, then you may have overpaid.
Post by: kimbles on Fri, 28 April 2017, 00:06:53
Post by: GreyAmbience on Fri, 28 April 2017, 00:28:43
I found it, May 5th.
Post by: Freed on Fri, 28 April 2017, 02:58:43
http://www.kbdist.com/updates/
;)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Fri, 28 April 2017, 03:08:07
Several updates here too:Thanks bud
http://www.kbdist.com/updates/
;)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Fri, 28 April 2017, 03:08:49
Several updates here too:Ooooooh shipping has started!
http://www.kbdist.com/updates/
;)
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 28 April 2017, 13:04:04
so glad there were extras, thanks for this set sherry!
You're most welcome!
Several updates here too:Ooooooh shipping has started!
http://www.kbdist.com/updates/
;)
Yee :) Can't wait to see more of this out there!
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 28 April 2017, 13:16:58
Post by: kmba on Fri, 28 April 2017, 15:36:14
(http://i.imgur.com/6oBYUv9.jpg)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 28 April 2017, 16:04:39
from keychatter. KBD75. gorgeousShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/6oBYUv9.jpg)
You beat me to it lol :thumb:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 28 April 2017, 16:22:50
(http://i.imgur.com/ubd01YZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mFLaKp8.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/F2xdqMH.jpg)
Post by: xondat on Fri, 28 April 2017, 16:23:41
Really thrilled how this came out! The custom grey definitely makes the set!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ubd01YZ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mFLaKp8.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/F2xdqMH.jpg)
Pure sex. One of the best GMK sets yet.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 28 April 2017, 16:25:01
Really thrilled how this came out! The custom grey definitely makes the set!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ubd01YZ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mFLaKp8.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/F2xdqMH.jpg)
Pure sex. One of the best GMK sets yet.
Glad you like it! Thanks for the compliment ;D
Post by: GreyAmbience on Fri, 28 April 2017, 16:44:13
Really thrilled how this came out! The custom grey definitely makes the set!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ubd01YZ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mFLaKp8.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/F2xdqMH.jpg)
(https://s28.postimg.org/qjeplvpn1/2035_-_autoplay_gif_gif_vince_mcmahon_wwf.gif)
Post by: a_ak57 on Fri, 28 April 2017, 17:36:09
Post by: moonmaster on Fri, 28 April 2017, 17:57:12
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 28 April 2017, 18:05:52
Omg. So glad I got in on this. It was my first ever group buy. I had a hard time convincing myself I could pay so much for little pieces of plastic. I convinced myself based on the reasoning that it would be an endgame keyset. I think I was right!
Im glad you joined! I really hope you like it!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 28 April 2017, 18:06:24
That is exactly how I was hoping it'd turn out. TBH I didn't really have interest in the lighter grey from the early/GMK renders, but I went in on the buy when I saw the actual color samples; really glad I did.
Sherry picked out the grey! I'm so glad he did too!
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 28 April 2017, 18:07:05
That is exactly how I was hoping it'd turn out. TBH I didn't really have interest in the lighter grey from the early/GMK renders, but I went in on the buy when I saw the actual color samples; really glad I did.
Sherry picked out the grey! I'm so glad he did too!
thanks for your trust <3
Post by: romevi on Fri, 28 April 2017, 18:12:44
Post by: richard912 on Fri, 28 April 2017, 23:23:55
Post by: shawn o on Sun, 30 April 2017, 19:51:55
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 02 May 2017, 23:46:06
Post by: buthidae on Wed, 03 May 2017, 04:10:41
Post by: WillSK on Wed, 03 May 2017, 05:19:29
Just got my email that the shipment is on it's way and I'm super excited!!
Thanks for all the hard work guys
Post by: richard912 on Wed, 03 May 2017, 07:01:19
Was also my first ever group buy. I had been waiting for a set in this sort of colourway to go with my set up and this just hit it right on the mark by being an interesting set that wasn't "too" red.To many more GBs to come!!
Just got my email that the shipment is on it's way and I'm super excited!!
Thanks for all the hard work guys
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 03 May 2017, 13:27:58
Was also my first ever group buy. I had been waiting for a set in this sort of colourway to go with my set up and this just hit it right on the mark by being an interesting set that wasn't "too" red.
Just got my email that the shipment is on it's way and I'm super excited!!
Thanks for all the hard work guys
I'm glad to break your group buy cherry :) (really fitting since these keycaps fit cherry stems hehe)
This keyset is really stellar, and we're still working on fulfilling everyone's shipment. We have to drive to Ontario, CA today (which is about 45 minutes away) to pick up 500 boxes for the Honeywell packaging!
Post by: Freed on Wed, 03 May 2017, 13:34:33
:thumb:
Post by: xondat on Wed, 03 May 2017, 13:35:26
pick up 500 boxes for the Honeywell packaging!
...500?! Is that just for Honeywell? :eek: :eek: :eek:
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 03 May 2017, 13:38:48
pick up 500 boxes for the Honeywell packaging!
...500?! Is that just for Honeywell? :eek: :eek: :eek:
That's not all for Honeywell (we have other keysets). We definitely have the space to hold all of it.
Post by: Petch on Thu, 04 May 2017, 04:32:51
Post by: Freed on Thu, 04 May 2017, 04:42:21
it would be fine if it was not be necessary to have customs fees in addition :'(
Post by: axtran on Thu, 04 May 2017, 06:56:24
Post by: richard912 on Sat, 06 May 2017, 08:41:31
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 06 May 2017, 09:37:46
Is the set shipped in tray or baggy?
Tray + Box
Post by: poolside on Sat, 06 May 2017, 15:09:17
Is the set shipped in tray or baggy?
Tray + Box
By box, you mean the now usual light cardboard "banderole" printed with logos?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 06 May 2017, 16:31:12
Is the set shipped in tray or baggy?
Tray + Box
By box, you mean the now usual light cardboard "banderole" printed with logos?
https://i.redd.it/01j2vb1r2arx.jpg Like the carbon box!
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sat, 06 May 2017, 16:38:55
I hope mine won't get too banged up getting all the way here.Is the set shipped in tray or baggy?
Tray + Box
By box, you mean the now usual light cardboard "banderole" printed with logos?
https://i.redd.it/01j2vb1r2arx.jpg Like the carbon box!
Post by: moonmaster on Sat, 06 May 2017, 19:08:37
Post by: sherryton on Sat, 06 May 2017, 19:09:26
Holy moley. Mine came today. It is nothing short of amazing. That grey.... 😍🙌💟
Yee :) Take some pictures !
Post by: richard912 on Sat, 06 May 2017, 20:39:10
Nice! Thanks. So looking forward to receiving my set soonIs the set shipped in tray or baggy?
Tray + Box
Post by: poolside on Sun, 07 May 2017, 08:59:52
Is the set shipped in tray or baggy?
Tray + Box
By box, you mean the now usual light cardboard "banderole" printed with logos?
https://i.redd.it/01j2vb1r2arx.jpg Like the carbon box!
Thanks. So, cardboard sleeve.
Post by: kmba on Sun, 07 May 2017, 11:50:44
Post by: MMKB on Mon, 08 May 2017, 00:32:19
Is the set shipped in tray or baggy?
A proper tray.
Post by: MMKB on Mon, 08 May 2017, 00:33:41
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 08 May 2017, 00:45:48
Is the set shipped in tray or baggy?
A proper tray.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170508/9e406b5c78a9d259eef04a7e60ac2449.jpg)
Post by: tron on Mon, 08 May 2017, 11:39:44
It's a great set but those red accent keys really set it off and it's not the same without them. It's odd because the GMK box lists the base as having the full 155 pieces and Originative doesn't have the accent kit listed as a separate item.
If I can't get the red accent kit then I may off load my order.
Post by: handcraftedbits on Mon, 08 May 2017, 13:11:50
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 08 May 2017, 13:28:13
Just got my set. Only got one red accent key (iso enter) with the base set. I was under the impression that the original group buy participants would get the whole red accent kit as shown in the pictures.....
It's a great set but those red accent keys really set it off and it's not the same without them. It's odd because the GMK box lists the base as having the full 155 pieces and Originative doesn't have the accent kit listed as a separate item.
If I can't get the red accent kit then I may off load my order.
Responded to you in the email!
Post by: tron on Mon, 08 May 2017, 14:00:40
Just got my set. Only got one red accent key (iso enter) with the base set. I was under the impression that the original group buy participants would get the whole red accent kit as shown in the pictures.....
It's a great set but those red accent keys really set it off and it's not the same without them. It's odd because the GMK box lists the base as having the full 155 pieces and Originative doesn't have the accent kit listed as a separate item.
If I can't get the red accent kit then I may off load my order.
Responded to you in the email!
Thanks for getting back to me Sherryton. It was probably the add on items (stabs, tactile sampler) I recently bundled in that shipment that caused the order date confusion.
Post by: Zanduby on Mon, 08 May 2017, 18:32:20
The grey is spot on! BUT, i should have looked sooner,
Post by: frostylove on Mon, 08 May 2017, 19:41:00
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Post by: sherryton on Mon, 08 May 2017, 20:17:10
Just got mine. RO2 red is waaaaaaay much better than classic RO1, it's so VIBRANT! :p
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Ceresia (RO1) is better :)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 08 May 2017, 21:14:53
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bHIGCoM.jpg)
The grey is spot on! BUT, i should have looked sooner,a second 1.5u ALT(ignore, there is a second 1.5u ALT GR)and possible another 1u R4 FN or blank key would have been nice.
It was my opinion that users could use the CODE keys for that if needed, there was an extra at one point, but we def had to trim the fat on this to reach a good price for the GB! Those BOOPs are amazing!!
Post by: Zanduby on Mon, 08 May 2017, 21:22:04
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bHIGCoM.jpg)
The grey is spot on! BUT, i should have looked sooner,a second 1.5u ALT(ignore, there is a second 1.5u ALT GR)and possible another 1u R4 FN or blank key would have been nice.
It was my opinion that users could use the CODE keys for that if needed, there was an extra at one point, but we def had to trim the fat on this to reach a good price for the GB! Those BOOPs are amazing!!
Yeah, and honestly i'm not sure i'll need them when I put this set on my next board. You have it covered. Thanks again for making an awesome set.
Post by: a_ak57 on Mon, 08 May 2017, 22:18:49
(http://i.imgur.com/ScqwqVH.png)
First Cherry/GMK set and I have to say I'm very pleased. I now understand what the hype is about;'; besides the profile being nice, the extra thickness of the caps seems to give a bit weightier feeling which I'm fond of. Also Honeywell looks great, as others have said it even looks better in person.
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 08 May 2017, 22:19:52
Honeywell HHKB:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ScqwqVH.png)
First Cherry/GMK set and I have to say I'm very pleased. I now understand what the hype is about;'; besides the profile being nice, the extra thickness of the caps seems to give a bit weightier feeling which I'm fond of. Also Honeywell looks great, as others have said it even looks better in person.
I'm glad you are enjoying it! There's another key in there for the backspace, "Delete". It looks much better.
Post by: a_ak57 on Mon, 08 May 2017, 22:32:09
(http://i.imgur.com/PEJGyYH.png)
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 08 May 2017, 22:32:55
I went with the Backspace since that's what I use it for but you're right about the Delete, just looks cleaner.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PEJGyYH.png)
:D In Sync!
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 09 May 2017, 03:24:06
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 09 May 2017, 03:47:59
Is this out of stock already?Yup
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 10 May 2017, 00:30:51
I went with the Backspace since that's what I use it for but you're right about the Delete, just looks cleaner.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PEJGyYH.png)
Yeah, "Delete" is the standard GMK key for that simply because they can't fit "backspace" onto a single line. I also prefer the "Delete" as well though :thumb:
At the end of the day, without a nav cluster like on a TKL you don't have multiple deletes. That would be the only thing that would really drive me nuts, if I had duplicate keys haha.
Post by: Orca on Sat, 13 May 2017, 13:40:17
Post by: sherryton on Sat, 13 May 2017, 13:55:18
R the accent keys still available if i order now?
Yes sir!
Post by: Petch on Sat, 13 May 2017, 16:04:22
Did you put my order as a gift as I asked? I sent the PM and got the shipping infoR the accent keys still available if i order now?
Yes sir!
Post by: moonmaster on Tue, 16 May 2017, 17:11:58
So beautiful... thanks Sheraton!
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Post by: sherryton on Tue, 16 May 2017, 17:45:36
Got my tripleshot Honeywell Fugu!
So beautiful... thanks Sheraton!
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Great picture :) etf is the one who made them, I'm just trying to share as many of them as much as possible!
How do you think it compares to Honeywell?
Post by: blighty on Tue, 16 May 2017, 17:47:02
I love having compatible sets for custom boards. Thanks for running another smooth buy! :thumb:
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 16 May 2017, 18:06:27
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I love having compatible sets for custom boards. Thanks for running another smooth buy! :thumb:
Thanks! <3
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 16 May 2017, 18:14:42
Got my tripleshot Honeywell Fugu!
So beautiful... thanks Sheraton!
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Did that come separately from the set?
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 16 May 2017, 18:19:12
Got my tripleshot Honeywell Fugu!
So beautiful... thanks Sheraton!
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Did that come separately from the set?
Yes sir!
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 16 May 2017, 18:22:30
Got my tripleshot Honeywell Fugu!
So beautiful... thanks Sheraton!
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Did that come separately from the set?
Yes sir!
That means I could still get one! Here is to hoping I do!
Post by: buthidae on Tue, 16 May 2017, 20:45:06
Love it :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
http://imgur.com/a/dgEXt (http://imgur.com/a/dgEXt)
Post by: moonmaster on Tue, 16 May 2017, 21:00:16
Got my tripleshot Honeywell Fugu!
So beautiful... thanks Sheraton!
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Great picture :) etf is the one who made them, I'm just trying to share as many of them as much as possible!
How do you think it compares to Honeywell?
It's a great match. To my eye, the colors are 100% on point!
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Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 16 May 2017, 23:45:17
Got my tripleshot Honeywell Fugu!Wow! Where did that come from?!
So beautiful... thanks Sheraton!
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Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 17 May 2017, 20:46:19
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bHIGCoM.jpg)
The grey is spot on! BUT, i should have looked sooner,a second 1.5u ALT(ignore, there is a second 1.5u ALT GR)and possible another 1u R4 FN or blank key would have been nice.
Damn, that looks sweet :cool: :thumb:
Post by: moonmaster on Wed, 17 May 2017, 21:56:37
Got my tripleshot Honeywell Fugu!Wow! Where did that come from?!
So beautiful... thanks Sheraton!
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Sheraton gave people who bought the set a chance to buy one. He did the same with Sky Dolch. I hope this become a pattern; I want that Miami Nights fugu!
Post by: richard912 on Thu, 18 May 2017, 06:12:43
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:11:38
My set arrived today. The actually set looks awesome. However, I hope you guys are aware of this https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.0
Thanks for letting us know! I'll definitely follow up with the manufacturer.
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 18 May 2017, 22:55:16
Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 19 May 2017, 11:05:26
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Post by: moonmaster on Fri, 19 May 2017, 11:36:00
Here's a picture of my set!Love the all grey! Love how versatile this set is, with the three options for Esc and the options for arrows and enter.
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Post by: Endeavour1934 on Sat, 20 May 2017, 08:48:23
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 20 May 2017, 09:03:21
(http://imgur.com/1dLVlL7.jpg)
On my clueboard I just built.
Post by: Mr_Grandis on Sat, 20 May 2017, 13:59:44
(https://i.imgur.com/BAwFZgH.jpg)
Post by: sherryton on Sat, 20 May 2017, 15:33:08
Looks great on my 980m :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BAwFZgH.jpg)
saw this picture on reddit! super awesome, and i like that bottom row.
Post by: Petch on Wed, 24 May 2017, 11:38:59
(http://i.imgur.com/GjyhvDT.jpg)
Post by: frostylove on Thu, 25 May 2017, 00:21:02
Post by: romevi on Fri, 26 May 2017, 15:20:37
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Hot cakes--that looks really, really good.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 26 May 2017, 15:27:05
On another not my top two rows have the same issue as most other with the broken cross supports. Also Sherry what should we do about scratched caps?
Post by: Petch on Fri, 26 May 2017, 19:59:06
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tSKdcAD.jpg)
On another not my top two rows have the same issue as most other with the broken cross supports. Also Sherry what should we do about scratched caps?
Didn't even notice all the broken cross supports... is that normal with GMK?
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 26 May 2017, 20:02:04
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tSKdcAD.jpg)
On another not my top two rows have the same issue as most other with the broken cross supports. Also Sherry what should we do about scratched caps?
Didn't even notice all the broken cross supports... is that normal with GMK?
It is not normal at all
Post by: Petch on Fri, 26 May 2017, 20:16:58
Pretty much all of mine have at least one missing, roughly half of them have all 4 parts of the cross brokenShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/tSKdcAD.jpg)
On another not my top two rows have the same issue as most other with the broken cross supports. Also Sherry what should we do about scratched caps?
Didn't even notice all the broken cross supports... is that normal with GMK?
It is not normal at all
Post by: moonmaster on Sat, 27 May 2017, 09:16:40
This is really disappointing and I believe it affects the resale value substantially. Sheraton, is GMK planning to do anything to make this right?Pretty much all of mine have at least one missing, roughly half of them have all 4 parts of the cross brokenShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/tSKdcAD.jpg)
On another not my top two rows have the same issue as most other with the broken cross supports. Also Sherry what should we do about scratched caps?
Didn't even notice all the broken cross supports... is that normal with GMK?
It is not normal at all
Post by: richard912 on Sat, 27 May 2017, 09:38:30
This is really disappointing and I believe it affects the resale value substantially. Sheraton, is GMK planning to do anything to make this right?Pretty much all of mine have at least one missing, roughly half of them have all 4 parts of the cross brokenShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/tSKdcAD.jpg)
On another not my top two rows have the same issue as most other with the broken cross supports. Also Sherry what should we do about scratched caps?
Didn't even notice all the broken cross supports... is that normal with GMK?
It is not normal at all
Some of us posted our findings here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.0
Post by: kmba on Sat, 27 May 2017, 10:25:21
Post by: sherryton on Sun, 28 May 2017, 02:02:22
Post by: richard912 on Sun, 28 May 2017, 03:36:24
I'll be speaking more to GMK this week. I'll let you guys further know the issue when we discuss about it!Thanks for the heads-up Sherryton.
Post by: base on Thu, 01 June 2017, 10:07:48
(http://i.imgur.com/08ba6CB.jpg)
Post by: Petch on Fri, 02 June 2017, 11:30:11
Post by: Cotay on Sat, 03 June 2017, 10:18:57
I already passed this info along with photos to OCo (who replied very quickly and said that they will notify GMK and see how they respond), but am posting this just as a general heads-up since I have seen at least one other person with this same issue, specifically with the Esc key. The key has a burn on the stem which was apparently - in my case - enough to weaken the plastic to the point that it cracked the first time I pulled the cap.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/08ba6CB.jpg)
Thanks for sharing this. I hadn't opened my set yet since I haven't been ready to build the board they are going on. I've never had a reason to question GMK before so now I'm going to have to run through the other newer sets that are sitting. My supports on R1 and R2 are pretty bad. My red Esc is like yours and has never been installed:
Post by: Lisinge on Sat, 03 June 2017, 11:53:20
Post by: moonmaster on Sat, 03 June 2017, 13:37:10
I bought my set after the GB ended for full price. And my esc key is böackened too.Just to add that mine has the same burn.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/s042nhO.jpg)
Post by: a_ak57 on Sat, 03 June 2017, 20:00:26
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 03 June 2017, 21:54:10
Post by: Petch on Sun, 04 June 2017, 17:05:50
Post by: neon_tom on Sun, 04 June 2017, 21:30:42
Post by: euphxenos on Sun, 04 June 2017, 22:24:28
Post by: smittysteve on Sun, 04 June 2017, 22:49:11
Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 10:17:52
Post by: Cotay on Sun, 18 June 2017, 01:35:53
Post by: euphxenos on Mon, 10 July 2017, 16:41:57
Post by: base on Mon, 10 July 2017, 16:46:40
Did Originative get back to anyone about the burnt escape keys? In email they told me to expect a response in a couple of weeks, but that was over a month ago.
I haven't heard anything yet.
Post by: moonmaster on Tue, 11 July 2017, 01:29:16
DittoDid Originative get back to anyone about the burnt escape keys? In email they told me to expect a response in a couple of weeks, but that was over a month ago.
I haven't heard anything yet.
Post by: Petch on Tue, 11 July 2017, 04:41:10
Post by: tron on Sat, 18 November 2017, 13:22:40
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 18 November 2017, 13:31:34
Honeywell with Revo One milk white case (pottery coating).
So clean and elegant. Love it.
But the placement of those mods tho...
Post by: tron on Sat, 18 November 2017, 14:01:01
Honeywell with Revo One milk white case (pottery coating).
So clean and elegant. Love it.
But the placement of those mods tho...
I agree. I just wanted to get something in the case fast so I could see how the color combination came out (used an old infinity build and threw the Honeywell caps on). When I have more time I plan on building a new board for the case using Zealiostotles and a proper bottom row.
Post by: Dmitri on Sat, 10 February 2024, 09:13:24
Post by: Rhienfo on Sat, 10 February 2024, 14:47:55
when R2
It's actually instock at oco, however it's really really expesnive (not worth imo)
You could probably find it cheaper on the aftermarket though