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Offline Egobean

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #350 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 21:01:25 »
how long until we can order?

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #351 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 21:34:28 »
From what I understand, the situation is that they are too busy fulfilling previous orders and simply can't afford the manpower for any GB, especially an oversea one. So no specific date yet. Until this part, I totally understand. However, they are doing monthly in-stock sales of Noah, occasionally limited amount pre-order if the colorway is new. These are limited number runs - around 100 units per month. Here comes the interesting part: it's always FCFS in a botter-friendly environment (our beloved Taobao). No raffle. And this is the part that I don't understand: no raffle; no attempt to block botters or flippers (you can see ppl selling multiple kits of Noah in Reddit after each sale). So if you live in an area where the loading speed of Taobao is physically limited/can't read Chinese, here are several ways to get yourself a Noah: 1. wait for the indefinite international GB to happen; 2. secondary market if you are OK with the premium; 3. join the dark side or befriend someone who's already on the dark side.

If you sense any negativity here, I'm sorry - that's bc I really love their design and I get a little upset when I see the lack of effort to block botters and alike. Hopefully they'll do better in this regard!!! Good luck, Matrix.

Offline yicaoyimu

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #352 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 23:05:06 »
From what I understand, the situation is that they are too busy fulfilling previous orders and simply can't afford the manpower for any GB, especially an oversea one. So no specific date yet. Until this part, I totally understand. However, they are doing monthly in-stock sales of Noah, occasionally limited amount pre-order if the colorway is new. These are limited number runs - around 100 units per month. Here comes the interesting part: it's always FCFS in a botter-friendly environment (our beloved Taobao). No raffle. And this is the part that I don't understand: no raffle; no attempt to block botters or flippers (you can see ppl selling multiple kits of Noah in Reddit after each sale). So if you live in an area where the loading speed of Taobao is physically limited/can't read Chinese, here are several ways to get yourself a Noah: 1. wait for the indefinite international GB to happen; 2. secondary market if you are OK with the premium; 3. join the dark side or befriend someone who's already on the dark side.

If you sense any negativity here, I'm sorry - that's bc I really love their design and I get a little upset when I see the lack of effort to block botters and alike. Hopefully they'll do better in this regard!!! Good luck, Matrix.

There are a couple reasons why minimal effort is spent on keeping botters out:
1. Noah isn't flip worthy at all in China.
2. One of Cain's big goals moving forward is to completely eliminate margin for flippers by producing lots of lots of units, as long as there is demand.

According to pr0ximity [1], international group buy isn't dead yet. The team is busy packing 2.0 ADD right now so maybe expect some good news about international group buy later this month or early July.

[1]: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83530.msg2913720#msg2913720
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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #353 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 10:08:39 »



There are a couple reasons why minimal effort is spent on keeping botters out:
1. Noah isn't flip worthy at all in China.
2. One of Cain's big goals moving forward is to completely eliminate margin for flippers by producing lots of lots of units, as long as there is demand.

According to pr0ximity [1], international group buy isn't dead yet. The team is busy packing 2.0 ADD right now so maybe expect some good news about international group buy later this month or early July.

[1]: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83530.msg2913720#msg2913720

That's nice to hear.
I just hope that they go with something else than Taobao for an intl. groupbuy because it's literally impossible to buy from there for many people (I can't buy from there because German credit cards aren't accepted for example) and having to go through a superbuy agent for a groupbuy is not really nice either.

Offline Hangos

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #354 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 19:51:23 »
I cross All my fingers for a group buy to happend. Here in Denmark there isnt many 65% boards that supports iso. The design is so sick on these!

Offline Koniotaur

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #355 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 07:37:42 »
I was excited about this for a while, but seeing that Matrix pretty much doesn't ever communicate there I defineatly will skip this.

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #356 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 10:33:37 »
I was excited about this for a while, but seeing that Matrix pretty much doesn't ever communicate there I defineatly will skip this.
Matrix does communicate. Just not here.
They are very active in the Chinese QQ group.

rn an international gb doesn't really seem to be their priority.

Offline Vaudevi77ain

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #357 on: Mon, 08 June 2020, 17:01:07 »
Is Matrix Lab on instagram? The account in the OP doesn't exist

Offline yicaoyimu

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #358 on: Mon, 08 June 2020, 17:23:11 »
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Offline chowbabyloving

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #359 on: Mon, 08 June 2020, 17:48:48 »
Is Matrix Lab on instagram? The account in the OP doesn't exist

https://instagram.com/matrixlab_cain?igshid=1b6l583utguis

I hope they run that Abel X in their latest post as a international GB.

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #360 on: Mon, 08 June 2020, 20:41:57 »
i remember one of the matrix mods told me the Matrix 2.0 ADD/OG would also run an international GB a week or two after the China GB. never happened lol
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Offline Vaudevi77ain

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #361 on: Mon, 08 June 2020, 21:23:16 »
i remember one of the matrix mods told me the Matrix 2.0 ADD/OG would also run an international GB a week or two after the China GB. never happened lol

That's not reassuring  :( I hope there are updates soon, since this looks like my dream board

Offline Poesjuh

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #362 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 17:41:05 »
Doesn’t really matter what is flippable or not in eastern market. Simply supply and demand makes almost literally everything flippable in western market.


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Offline Vaudevi77ain

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #363 on: Sun, 14 June 2020, 14:41:49 »
Good news boyos

Offline frankyusa0409

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #364 on: Sun, 14 June 2020, 14:50:00 »
Good news boyos

Hopefully it gets run after all this wait

Offline BB997

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #365 on: Sun, 14 June 2020, 22:31:16 »
Good news boyos
You are a hero. More specifically, from now on if anyone asks me who I look up to I'll immediately say "Vaudevi77ain!"

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #366 on: Mon, 15 June 2020, 00:03:38 »
Whoa... These news just absolutely made my day ;D

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #367 on: Mon, 15 June 2020, 00:12:48 »
Hopefully we get more than 1 or 2 color choice :)

Offline Hangos

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #368 on: Mon, 15 June 2020, 03:20:47 »
Good news boyos

This is insane. What a god, thanks!

Offline Koniotaur

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #369 on: Wed, 17 June 2020, 07:25:31 »
This news brought my hopes back, does anyone know if Noah has esd protection on PCB?

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #370 on: Wed, 17 June 2020, 07:59:32 »
Huzzah!

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #371 on: Wed, 17 June 2020, 10:22:13 »
hurrah

Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #372 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 03:51:33 »
I lost hope on noah, but this news is wonderful. I missed the primus gb by few minutes

Offline kaisn

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #373 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 17:10:01 »
https://discord.gg/kcz6jh

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Offline dstaar

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #374 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 22:42:59 »
so this means officially back on track?

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #375 on: Fri, 03 July 2020, 00:13:12 »
Let's just hope so  :D
so this means officially back on track?

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #376 on: Fri, 03 July 2020, 01:21:31 »
Let's just hope so  :D
as long as it's unlimited, put me down  :cool:

Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)
« Reply #377 on: Fri, 03 July 2020, 04:58:35 »
I cross All my fingers for a group buy to happend. Here in Denmark there isnt many 65% boards that supports iso. The design is so sick on these!

I find superbuy has expert sourcing service for groupbuy stuff. May you can try to contact and figure out whether it works or not.

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard)[07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #378 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 03:01:03 »
updated

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #379 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 03:36:40 »
Cool!!!
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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #380 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 03:39:25 »
Super excited for this. Is there an estimated date for the GB?

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #381 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 03:55:18 »
Awesome, looking forward to finally seeing this moving forward :thumb:

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #382 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 03:59:33 »
Super excited for this. Is there an estimated date for the GB?

Late July :)

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #383 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 04:04:32 »
Oh yeah! Finally an official western Matrix GB!

Offline Onnimar

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #384 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 04:37:16 »
This is great news as I love all the matrix keyboard designs. I look forward to this and await for more information.

The LED change is interesting.

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #385 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 05:05:35 »
new renders look dope. so pumped about the WKL top and the new LED look

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #386 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 05:26:12 »
Oh yeah! Finally an official western Matrix GB!
Thx. Hope you like it.

This is great news as I love all the matrix keyboard designs. I look forward to this and await for more information.

The LED change is interesting.

Thx mate

new renders look dope. so pumped about the WKL top and the new LED look

Thx

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #387 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 05:38:40 »
can you please add more plate options? i.e brass or carbon fiber

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #388 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 05:44:02 »
Oh wow, the yellow looks so good!

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #389 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 05:49:15 »
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to the GB

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #390 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 06:22:32 »
Looking forward to the group buy!

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #391 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 08:14:16 »
Hope it will be unlimited!!! I do prefer Matrix than Noah at the back tho


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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #392 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 08:32:21 »
Hope it will be unlimited!!! I do prefer Matrix than Noah at the back tho


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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #393 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 09:31:03 »
Yay! Can't wait.

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #394 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 11:17:42 »
Hmmm.  I really liked the square led holes on the top like the previous version.  Darn. 

Offline Rah3000

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #395 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 11:39:18 »
Is the pcb for this board compatible with the older version?

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #396 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 12:46:38 »
Had my eye on the pink one after seeing some builds, definitely in for this

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #397 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 16:49:02 »
look at the new render! yeah!
Last week I was pretty sad for failing the Primus GB. Now I am 100% sure I have completely shaded it off.
Thanks for bringing me to the new point.

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #398 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 17:14:56 »
Looks great! But there is something I need to know. Can I change the "Tools & Toys"?

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Re: [IC]Matrix Lab - Noah (65% Keyboard) [07/07/2020 updated]
« Reply #399 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 17:33:31 »
Looks great! But there is something I need to know. Can I change the "Tools & Toys"?

I'm not going to join this, but I agree, probably along with a lot more people, that the "Tools & Toys" text should be changed or even removed. It's really strange to have that kind of title permanently engraved onto a 300+ USD premium keyboard.