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Title: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |GB Shipped| Closed
Post by: Laneware on Sun, 28 June 2020, 00:11:10
Updates
To see updates as they are released, please check our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/h3GTsPWV9e (https://discord.gg/h3GTsPWV9e)

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Link to Interest Check
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105885 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105885)

Link to Higher Resolution Images
https://imgur.com/a/sq6H2tB (https://imgur.com/a/sq6H2tB)

Key Details
Timing: 01/07/2020 to 01/08/2020 20:00 PST
Price: $350 USD + Shipping
Projected Shipping Date: November 2020

Vendors
Global Vendor - Laneware Peripherals: https://laneware.xyz/?currency=USD
EU Vendor - mykeyboard: https://mykeyboard.eu/
Matching Cable GB - Mythic Cables: https://www.mythic-cables.com/

Raindrop Kit Includes
Case: Choice of Blue/Grey Annodized Aluminium or White Powder Coat Aluminium
Switch Plate: Choice of Brass Color Matched Annodized Aluminium or Brass (+$30)
Weight: Choice of Brass Color Matched Annodized Aluminium or Brass (+$50)
PCB: Supported Layouts Shown Below
Hardware: Screws & Bumpons

#The brass color matched annodized aluminium is shown in the prototype images, we've worked really hard to bring you the aesthetic of brass without the price tag.

Features
Form Factor: 60%
Mounting Method: Gasket
Typing Angle: 7 Degrees
PCB: Type C, QMK, USB-C Port in the POK3R position, allowing you to utilize existing 60% PCBs with this layout
Plate Thickness: 1.5mm
Front Height: 18mm

Add-Ons
Additional Plate: $30 Aluminium or $60 Brass
Additional PCB: $40
Add a limited run "TRACES" by Laneware desk mat to your cart and use code "THE LANEWARE AESTHETIC" on checkout to redeem it for FREE! Only while stocks last, FCFS.

Build Stream Highlights
Streamer Channel: https://www.twitch.tv/bytesizedseamus
Back Weight Installation: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/657685618
Fully Built Final Look: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/657685619
Typing Test

Render Picture Book
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Prototype Picture Book
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Photo Credit: https://www.instagram.com/bytesizedseamus/

PCB Detail & Layouts
PCB Design, as Seen in the Build Stream Highlights
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Standard 60%
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2u Left Shift with Arrowkeys
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HHKB Rows 1-4
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ISO
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Design Inspiration
There were two key inspirations for the Raindrop design.

The first inspiration was the aesthetics of a rainy day, this inspired the design of the board
This video captures that aesthetic perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5u6Q9OExCQ&feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5u6Q9OExCQ&feature=share)

The second inspiration was a raindrop typing sound, this inspired the mounting method and material of the plate and case
Here is the typing test again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJfpHqhRecs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJfpHqhRecs)

Contact
Group Buy Discord Server: https://discord.gg/YfKeufp
My Personal Discord: LANEWARE#0468
Email: support@laneware.xyz

Update Frequency & Terms and Conditions
-We will update you on GB progress, manufacturing and shipping details at minium once every 2 weeks, or when important information becomes available.
-You can expect to recieve your items before the advertised time, however uncontrollable circumstances may cause this time frame to be extended.
-We aim to provide the highest quality Keyboards to our users. Our QA process should pick up any imperfections, however if a sub-par keyboard does manage to reach you, imperfections will be evaluated based on their location and size. The outcome of this evaluation may result in a full/partial replacement, full/partial refund or return depending on the severity of the imperfection.
-Specific Pantone Colours and Switch Plate .stp files will be released after the GB
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: Signature on Sun, 28 June 2020, 13:32:57
Approved
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: Laneware on Sun, 28 June 2020, 15:25:56
Reserved
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: pengoot02 on Sun, 28 June 2020, 17:37:09
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Switch Plate: Choice of Brass Color Matched Annodized Aluminium

Who actually buys brass for the aesthetic and not the feel/sound 🤔
Is there a reason why your brass plates cost almost a 1/3 of the board?
You also didn't specify the quantity of units available
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: Ensaum on Sun, 28 June 2020, 19:44:42
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Switch Plate: Choice of Brass Color Matched Annodized Aluminium

Who actually buys brass for the aesthetic and not the feel/sound 🤔
Is there a reason why your brass plates cost almost a 1/3 of the board?
You also didn't specify the quantity of units available

$100 plate :-X Holy ****..
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: Laneware on Sun, 28 June 2020, 20:07:28
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Switch Plate: Choice of Brass Color Matched Annodized Aluminium

Who actually buys brass for the aesthetic and not the feel/sound 🤔
Is there a reason why your brass plates cost almost a 1/3 of the board?
You also didn't specify the quantity of units available

$100 plate :-X Holy ****..

Hi, yes this was a communication error with pricing, the entire cost of the brass plate was added to the base cost of the aluminium plate. It should have just been the difference in price between the aluminium and brass. This has been rectified.

We have had alot of positive feedback about the brass color matched annodising.

The GB is not a limited run.

I hope this answers all of your questions 😀
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: Laneware on Mon, 29 June 2020, 00:09:48
For higher resolution images please see for following link:
https://imgur.com/a/sq6H2tB (https://imgur.com/a/sq6H2tB)
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: goddream on Mon, 29 June 2020, 00:27:20
there were a few issues noted during the prototype build stream that I think definitely warranted a second prototype, however you have gone ahead with the GB. Any reason to not go with a second prototype here to finalize the design?

Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: Laneware on Mon, 29 June 2020, 00:34:08
there were a few issues noted during the prototype build stream that I think definitely warranted a second prototype, however you have gone ahead with the GB. Any reason to not go with a second prototype here to finalize the design?

Hi there,
The issue on the stream was identified post stream to actually be due to a cable short that was over drawing power from the USB port. Beyond this, the USB port was deemed to require a recess to accomodate for USB cables with a very short male head, this does not require an additional prototype to verify. However, final samples will be obtained from the factory as per normal, acting as a final prototype before proceeding with the final approval, this has been allowed for in the GB timeline :)

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Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: PM_ME_THE_SLOTHS on Mon, 29 June 2020, 01:16:38
Welp this is gonna be the 3rd board i've ordered that I won't have caps for now. All these awesome boards keep coming out and I know it's easier to get the caps later than to try and get the board. This is an unlimited buy open the entire month of July right?
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: Laneware on Mon, 29 June 2020, 01:21:30
Welp this is gonna be the 3rd board i've ordered that I won't have caps for now. All these awesome boards keep coming out and I know it's easier to get the caps later than to try and get the board. This is an unlimited buy open the entire month of July right?

I know that feeling :D I have 3 sets of caps due in Nov/Dec that i'm waiting to put on boards. Yes, this is an unlimited buy open the entire month of July. Feel free to join the discord server to get notified of any updates (I will post all updates here too). https://discord.gg/YfKeufp
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: ilikerustoo on Mon, 29 June 2020, 01:48:14
Interesting
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: Laneware on Tue, 30 June 2020, 06:01:35
I've had several requests for a stand alone render of the grey variation. If anyone has any specific renders or photos they would like for see feel free to comment here or message me on discord :)
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Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: Laneware on Tue, 30 June 2020, 15:52:31
It's Live!
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: Dunne on Tue, 30 June 2020, 22:04:40
]What a great looking board! :cool: Do you have a flat designed bottom case? I worry the design etching will get scuffed since I live in a country where scuffing things is very common & I'm not the biggest fan of the Han characters. (If not, I can live with that comprise). It's interesting, maybe reserved when I have a bit more money lol
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: Laneware on Tue, 30 June 2020, 22:26:08
]What a great looking board! :cool: Do you have a flat designed bottom case? I worry the design etching will get scuffed since I live in a country where scuffing things is very common & I'm not the biggest fan of the Han characters. (If not, I can live with that comprise). It's interesting, maybe reserved when I have a bit more money lol
Hi 😀 thanks for the kind feedback. No we don't offer the Case without the design on the bottom sorry. As for scuffing, the rubber feet do offset the keyboard from the desk by about 1mm, not sure if this helps. Any other questions please feel free to ask.
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Laneware on Wed, 01 July 2020, 06:02:33
A huge thankyou to those very early supporters :D Orders have been very even between all 3 colors so far. For those coming through in different time zones, there are still some desk mats available for free using code "THE LANEWARE AESTHETIC".
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: cyanide814 on Wed, 01 July 2020, 17:16:06
So the pre order is going on until August 1st?
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Laneware on Wed, 01 July 2020, 17:27:21
So the pre order is going on until August 1st?
That's right 😄
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Laneware on Fri, 03 July 2020, 04:24:23
A few people have been asking about the difference between the Speed and Control versions of the desk mat. The one on the left is the Speed edition, the one on the right is the control edition. I hope this clears it up 😄

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Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: shodid on Fri, 03 July 2020, 22:11:52
Does the PCB have ESD protection?
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: cyanide814 on Fri, 03 July 2020, 23:14:05
Well I'm in!
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Laneware on Sat, 04 July 2020, 03:43:42
Does the PCB have ESD protection?
Good question, there is a capacitor behind the USB housing that connects ground to the USB-C shield, there are also large ground planes on both sides of the PCB. The only thing I would say that could still give you ESD is if your are using a cheap USBC cable with no dedicated shield, alot of custom cables are built this way too.
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: shodid on Sat, 04 July 2020, 11:17:47
I went to order and was expecting to select a different plate for the arrow key layout because that's part of my attraction here, but it seems like there is not different plate options on the site. I am not quite understanding how the arrow key layout can be supported on the same plate since all the switches on the shift row will be moved .25u to the left. Is the shift row plate holes just extra-wide? Does not appear that way from pictures. Can you confirm if/how the same plate supports arrow/standard layouts?
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Laneware on Sat, 04 July 2020, 16:22:16
I went to order and was expecting to select a different plate for the arrow key layout because that's part of my attraction here, but it seems like there is not different plate options on the site. I am not quite understanding how the arrow key layout can be supported on the same plate since all the switches on the shift row will be moved .25u to the left. Is the shift row plate holes just extra-wide? Does not appear that way from pictures. Can you confirm if/how the same plate supports arrow/standard layouts?
Hi, the prototype plate only supported the arrow key layout. From the final design poll, there was high demand to offer multiple layouts on the one PCB&Plate. So yes you're right, the plate has holes to accommodate for several layouts, there is no need for you specify which layout you want 😄 I hope this clears it up, feel free to ask into have any more questions.
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: cyanide814 on Sat, 04 July 2020, 22:21:13
I already placed the order, but didn't  see the free deskmat. Am I too late?
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Laneware on Sat, 04 July 2020, 22:40:10
I already placed the order, but didn't  see the free deskmat. Am I too late?

Shoot me a message on discord or email with your order number and ill add the desk mat to it :)
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Laneware on Mon, 06 July 2020, 01:20:48
The bumpons finally arrived! They didn't make it for the build video so here is a picture of them on. Sorry for the potato photo.
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Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Laneware on Mon, 06 July 2020, 17:39:02
For those who were waiting for mykeyboard.eu, it is now up :)
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware
Post by: Laneware on Wed, 08 July 2020, 03:10:09
Interesting
If you have any queries feel free to jump into the discord 😄
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Laneware on Wed, 08 July 2020, 19:14:38
I've had several requests for the plate file. Originally I wasn't going to release this until after the GB was complete, however I realise that there can be large lead times for custom POM/other material plates and I want you guys to have them ready for when the case arrives :D So, I won't be releasing it publicly until the GB is over, however message me on discord or email and I will happily provide you with the file.
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Inversecrowd on Sat, 11 July 2020, 20:51:53
Keeeen, cant decide between blue and grey :D
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Laneware on Sun, 12 July 2020, 15:20:28
I have a soft spot for the blue 😄
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Laneware on Wed, 15 July 2020, 19:50:33
Update: 2 Weeks remaining! Our manufacturer is in the process of producing the first 10 units as a final quality check before proceeding with the full manufacturing run once the GB is closed :)
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Inversecrowd on Sat, 18 July 2020, 23:43:12
I have a soft spot for the blue 😄
Blue it is 😍
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Laneware on Wed, 22 July 2020, 15:52:11
MOQ is reached! Just 1 week left 😁
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: 002_GT on Wed, 22 July 2020, 19:13:05
MOQ is reached! Just 1 week left 😁
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out of curiosity what was the moq for this
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| by Laneware [OPEN]
Post by: Laneware on Mon, 27 July 2020, 01:48:50
2 Days Remaining on the GB!
Update from the case manufacturer: Final production samples are due to be completed early August
Update from PCB manufacturer: First 30 PCBs will be complete in approx. 2 weeks.
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| 2 Days Left!
Post by: Laneware on Tue, 28 July 2020, 01:26:35
Update: All of the hardware, rubber feet etc. have arrived.
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| 2 Days Left!
Post by: Laneware on Thu, 30 July 2020, 00:47:49
1 day left! Thanks to everyone for the support so far, it's been great, everything is on track for November, I can't wait to see pictures of these out in the wild!
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| 12 Hrs Left!
Post by: Laneware on Fri, 31 July 2020, 18:47:55
12 Hrs left, we've seen a big influx in orders in the past 24hrs, thankyou everyone for the support!
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| In Production
Post by: Laneware on Sat, 01 August 2020, 23:05:54
The GB has now closed! A huge thanks for all of those that have shown support through the GB stage :thumb: As always, we have ordered a few extras, these will be available as pre-order until sold out. Thanks again and stay safe.
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| In Production | Giveaway
Post by: Laneware on Fri, 21 August 2020, 23:23:02
Hi everyone, head on over and give some feedback at this google form https://forms.gle/qw6r2CZMeATzRt1i6 (https://forms.gle/qw6r2CZMeATzRt1i6) to go in the draw to win a Raindrop Keyboard Kit!
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| In Production | Giveaway
Post by: Laneware on Thu, 27 August 2020, 01:05:04
Update: Minor road bump but nothing too major. We recently had 10 cases made to verify the quality of the factories work across multiple cases. We have received the cases yesterday and the quality is good. However, between the first prototype and these 10 cases there were minor improvements made. The factory has made these 10 cases with the old original prototype files and not the new files that we supplied them with. They are now working to remake these 10 cases with the new files. This will delay the overall time frame by 15 to 20 days. Apologies for this delay, it was completely out of our hands. Thanks again to everyone for the support on this project, I will keep you up to date on the progress with these 10 cases.
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| In Production | Giveaway
Post by: 3xelift on Sat, 16 January 2021, 04:35:17
Any updates on the Case? I saw that the estimate completion date was Nov 2020 and the 15-20 days would set it back to around Dec 2020.
Title: Re: [GB] Raindrop 60% Keyboard |Gasket Mounted| In Production | Giveaway
Post by: Laneware on Tue, 19 January 2021, 22:14:24
Any updates on the Case? I saw that the estimate completion date was Nov 2020 and the 15-20 days would set it back to around Dec 2020.

Hi! Yes, we are getting close, as with the rest of the community, we have encountered several COVID related delays. Our cases have been produced, we are now just waiting for the final PCBs and then we are ready to ship. You can see updates as they are released on our Discord Server https://discord.gg/h3GTsPWV9e (https://discord.gg/h3GTsPWV9e)