Post by: Hammer on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:11:49
We can't control the quality of BSP, they repaired the mould several times at my request, in view of the previous experience they are good but that doesn't prove they are perfect this time.
BSP has no spacebar so each set comes with a GMK L9 one. ;)
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R4 GB List
- APL Ansi
- Arabic Ansi
- Tulip GK Ansi
- Tulip OG Ansi
- Icon Mods
- RGB Set
- Retro Winkey Set
- Dr.Click Resin Artisan Caps
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-dr-click-resin-artisan-keycap
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UPDATE Feb 21#added items='APL' & 'Tulip';
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='RGB Set';
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='Retro Winkey Sets';
UPDATE Feb 25#modify items='Tulip Set';
UPDATE Mar 04#added items='No Homing F&J';
UPDATE Mar 05#added items='Tulip OG Set';
UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits';
UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Icon Mods';
Post by: mech0nly on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:12:37
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Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:14:14
Post by: cdn-mini on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:15:25
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:16:13
Hebrew set too please ;)
Post by: Blackhawk on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:16:44
Post by: soba on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:17:29
Post by: Captain Shwah on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:18:24
Post by: zekkin on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:18:49
edit: please do hebrew too ;D
Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:30:11
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Post by: hansichen on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:32:03
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:41:12
Post by: DJSwayde on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:47:34
Post by: Nafs_asp on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:50:13
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:51:52
Post by: cocobrais on Tue, 20 February 2018, 07:57:41
Post by: koduh on Tue, 20 February 2018, 08:03:06
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 20 February 2018, 08:08:51
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 20 February 2018, 08:13:17
Post by: t8c on Tue, 20 February 2018, 08:15:27
Post by: Wetherbee on Tue, 20 February 2018, 08:28:39
Oh my God... Is that a 7u PBT spacebar? Praise Allah!!!!!
Post by: mago on Tue, 20 February 2018, 08:40:52
Post by: LeoShi on Tue, 20 February 2018, 08:43:05
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 20 February 2018, 08:45:25
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 20 February 2018, 09:01:39
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 20 February 2018, 09:02:50
Arabic looks great. Interested in other sets though, like APL, Desko, Cyrillic and Hebrew
Please. :cool:
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Tue, 20 February 2018, 09:07:25
Arabic looks great. Interested in other sets though, like APL, Desko, Cyrillic and Hebrew
Please. :cool:
Please. Looking forward to this Hammer :thumb:
Post by: oatmicro on Tue, 20 February 2018, 09:13:44
Post by: dblack on Tue, 20 February 2018, 09:45:02
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 20 February 2018, 09:56:02
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 20 February 2018, 10:13:27
:)
That seems to be a different set. The icon on the WinKey is a retro Windows logo. Are these two different sets from the original first post?
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 February 2018, 10:15:45
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 20 February 2018, 10:24:07
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 20 February 2018, 10:24:15
macro shots of the dyesub pls
This is very important -- and if you can compare with EnjoyPBT and OG Cherry and BSP, it'd be even better.
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 20 February 2018, 10:24:45
Super down, pref black dyesub though.
Arabic is inspired from G80-3000 SAA, which has traditionally been blue for the Arabic sublegends.
Post by: Nafs_asp on Tue, 20 February 2018, 10:39:28
Super down, pref black dyesub though.
please no
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 20 February 2018, 10:44:39
Super down, pref black dyesub though.
please no
Good thing about dyesubs is that multiple colors can be offered for sublegends easily
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 20 February 2018, 10:54:14
:)
That seems to be a different set. The icon on the WinKey is a retro Windows logo. Are these two different sets from the original first post?
Same set from what I can tell. I know they have used several different winkey options with these. I think team Hammer worked with imsto on the first BSP runs, I wouldn't be surprised if its same dyesubbing equipment
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 20 February 2018, 11:01:59
It hasn't been decided yet.:)
That seems to be a different set. The icon on the WinKey is a retro Windows logo. Are these two different sets from the original first post?
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 20 February 2018, 11:02:48
Post by: zekkin on Tue, 20 February 2018, 11:09:16
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 20 February 2018, 11:11:04
I will choose one as the winkey.
;)
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 20 February 2018, 11:12:36
The first one is a icon from G80-2000, second It's the retro windows icon.
I will choose one as the winkey.
;)
I will vote for the first one -- G80-2000 icon
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 20 February 2018, 11:29:25
Arabic is inspired from G80-3000 SAA, which has traditionally been blue for the Arabic sublegends.
please no
Understandable, what's stopping them from doing black dye if they do blue though? I didn't mean instead of, maybe I should've elaborated further - unless MOQ is high I don't see a problem in offering multiples.
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 20 February 2018, 11:36:32
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Post by: Cavemann6 on Tue, 20 February 2018, 12:08:04
Arabic looks great. Interested in other sets though, like APL, Desko, Cyrillic and Hebrew
^ please
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 20 February 2018, 12:16:47
I'll argue for better contrast with a blue sublegend set than all black legends. The MOQ for BSP blanks is 100 sets minimum.
Blue it is then, I still like all black best but it absolutely is best for the set and its integrity to keep it the way it's intended.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 20 February 2018, 13:27:10
Arabic version is cool and all but i would love to see Desko or green US international (like it was done on EPBT Irish).
BSP Desko
(http://www.imsto.cn/image/data/2014BSPb/19.JPG)
EPBT Irish
(http://i.imgur.com/yyJk2Ah.jpg)
US Ansi International layout
(https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2448/3648199286_96711c669a_o.png)
Post by: Rob27shred on Tue, 20 February 2018, 13:39:12
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 20 February 2018, 13:40:26
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 20 February 2018, 13:55:21
Would love a copy of the Peacock BSP set!This is my dream
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Post by: nsmechkb on Tue, 20 February 2018, 13:57:21
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 February 2018, 14:48:55
I'm ready for all the "but what about this layout?" posts
Post by: hansichen on Tue, 20 February 2018, 15:28:26
Just don't forget about BSP's terrible compat
I'm ready for all the "but what about this layout?" posts
Who cares what other people think, it includes wkl so most good boards are covored. The lack of iso support is a bit sad but you could modify at least the black legend alpha sets with a SAD set to make it work.
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Tue, 20 February 2018, 16:18:20
Just don't forget about BSP's terrible compat
I'm ready for all the "but what about this layout?" posts
Who cares what other people think, it includes wkl so most good boards are covored. The lack of iso support is a bit sad but you could modify at least the black legend alpha sets with a SAD set to make it work.
Most ‘good’ boards are covered haha. Couldn’t have said it better myself
+1 for BSP Desko advocates too
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Post by: futurecrime on Tue, 20 February 2018, 17:05:53
Post by: Geckt on Tue, 20 February 2018, 18:48:31
Glad to see BSP back in the game.+1 for those choices too.
Arabic version is cool and all but i would love to see Desko or green US international (like it was done on EPBT Irish).
BSP DeskoShow Image(http://www.imsto.cn/image/data/2014BSPb/19.JPG)
EPBT IrishShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/yyJk2Ah.jpg)
US Ansi International layoutShow Image(https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2448/3648199286_96711c669a_o.png)
I'm in still, really been waiting for such revival
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Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 February 2018, 19:46:29
Just don't forget about BSP's terrible compat
I'm ready for all the "but what about this layout?" posts
Who cares what other people think, it includes wkl so most good boards are covored. The lack of iso support is a bit sad but you could modify at least the black legend alpha sets with a SAD set to make it work.
i mean true but also reeee split right shift
Post by: Nafs_asp on Tue, 20 February 2018, 20:32:58
Glad to see BSP back in the game.
Arabic version is cool and all but i would love to see Desko or green US international (like it was done on EPBT Irish).
BSP DeskoShow Image(http://www.imsto.cn/image/data/2014BSPb/19.JPG)
EPBT IrishShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/yyJk2Ah.jpg)
US Ansi International layoutShow Image(https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2448/3648199286_96711c669a_o.png)
Those sets have been done before. This set has been in the works for quite some time, if it goes well maybe they'll run more sets afterwards (:
Post by: Hammer on Wed, 21 February 2018, 01:43:29
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 21 February 2018, 01:56:20
UPDATE Feb 21#added items='APL' & 'Tulip'; ;)
Great!!! Thank you! :)
I know APL but how would Tulip look like? Does someone has a picture?
Post by: Cavemann6 on Wed, 21 February 2018, 01:57:31
UPDATE Feb 21#added items='APL' & 'Tulip'; ;)
Awesome! Is there any pictures available? :)
Post by: Geckt on Wed, 21 February 2018, 02:04:52
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Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Wed, 21 February 2018, 02:58:51
UPDATE Feb 21#added items='APL' & 'Tulip'; ;)
Oh boy. :D
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Post by: hansichen on Wed, 21 February 2018, 04:04:49
This set is definetly missing in the mx world and a nice dyesub job on cherry caps would be awesome
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Wed, 21 February 2018, 08:54:55
Another image from HAMMER the man himself, a sneak peak at how the Tulip set would look like.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180221/05f2fe8861ec2883effc3606d644a94b.jpg)
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Ivan posted that image some years ago and there are several variations to the character arrangements on the Tulip boards' pad printed keys. Will be cool to see how hammer plans to maintain regular ansi legends with the international ones.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54708.msg1285923#msg1285923
Maybe putting the ansi legends where the light blue legends are squeezed in in that pic?
Also huge :thumb: on APL!! Very stoked to see that, here is an old picture of plasticchair's Cherry APL caps, for those who haven't seen
(http://i.imgur.com/ph8Ej.jpg)
Post by: Auxo on Wed, 21 February 2018, 09:06:01
Post by: zekkin on Wed, 21 February 2018, 09:07:54
:eek:
Post by: nickheller on Wed, 21 February 2018, 09:16:44
Post by: o3okevin on Wed, 21 February 2018, 10:04:54
Post by: Nafs_asp on Wed, 21 February 2018, 10:51:59
(https://imgur.com/iWxArZQ)
(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
(https://deskthority.net/resources/image/19566)
(https://deskthority.net/resources/image/38197)
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 February 2018, 11:10:40
also what would pricing look like for these sets?
Post by: Lepidus on Wed, 21 February 2018, 11:38:20
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 21 February 2018, 11:57:24
@Hammer
Looking at this picture
(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Wed, 21 February 2018, 12:16:25
Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
We were just talking about these two sets yesterday ^-^
I LOVE that idea, especially since the colors/special legends aren't very spread throughout the board with the Tulip series.
Sherry was using a similar setup a few years ago, and I prefer this order of legend colors, to align with the original RGBs from desko
(http://i.imgur.com/kqjn6tB.jpg)
Post by: Hammer on Wed, 21 February 2018, 12:28:30
You guys are awesome, I'll think about Artur and your advice.Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
We were just talking about these two sets yesterday ^-^
I LOVE that idea, especially since the colors/special legends aren't very spread throughout the board with the Tulip series.
Sherry was using a similar setup a few years ago, and I prefer this order of legend colors, to align with the original RGBs from deskoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/kqjn6tB.jpg)
Post by: Geckt on Wed, 21 February 2018, 12:33:14
Ohh yea, rgb mod legends would be slick AF.You guys are awesome, I'll think about Artur and your advice.Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
We were just talking about these two sets yesterday ^-^
I LOVE that idea, especially since the colors/special legends aren't very spread throughout the board with the Tulip series.
Sherry was using a similar setup a few years ago, and I prefer this order of legend colors, to align with the original RGBs from deskoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/kqjn6tB.jpg)
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 21 February 2018, 12:38:20
You guys are awesome, I'll think about Artur and your advice.Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
We were just talking about these two sets yesterday ^-^
I LOVE that idea, especially since the colors/special legends aren't very spread throughout the board with the Tulip series.
Sherry was using a similar setup a few years ago, and I prefer this order of legend colors, to align with the original RGBs from deskoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/kqjn6tB.jpg)
Thanks for listening Hammer. I do really appreciate that. :thumb:
In case which way the rgb colors are done - i am open for any color way. I would be just thankfull just for the addon. ;)
Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
We were just talking about these two sets yesterday ^-^
I LOVE that idea, especially since the colors/special legends aren't very spread throughout the board with the Tulip series.
Sherry was using a similar setup a few years ago, and I prefer this order of legend colors, to align with the original RGBs from deskoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/kqjn6tB.jpg)
Heyho! ;D
Really enjoyed the slack talk yesterday with you :)
As i stated previously i am open to any colorway and if it is the Original RGB colorway then we should take it as the reference for sure. Important for me is the offer of such addon.
Post by: Hammer on Wed, 21 February 2018, 12:45:16
Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.Artur,
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
There are two versions of Tulip in this picture, guess which one would I choose.
An extra would be added into your package if you are right ;)
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 21 February 2018, 12:46:29
I think you would choose the bottom one!!Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.Artur, there are two versions of Tulip in this picture, guess which one would I choose.
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
An extra would be added into your package if you right ;)
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Post by: Hammer on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:00:49
Will regular legends also be offered? Just simple and clean cherry legends.My heart is not simple and clean anymore son. :blank:
Post by: oatmicro on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:04:50
Will regular legends also be offered? Just simple and clean cherry legends.My heart is not simple and clean anymore son. :blank:
Is Desko too simple and clean for you? Do i still have a hope :blank:
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:06:13
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:17:58
Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.Artur,
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
There are two versions of Tulip in this picture, guess which one would I choose.
An extra would be added into your package if you are right ;)
Post by: Hammer on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:28:12
Top one?Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.Artur,
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
There are two versions of Tulip in this picture, guess which one would I choose.
An extra would be added into your package if you are right ;)I guess you would choose bottom version since it would cover also some nordic languages.(they are both equal the alignment is different) Top one because they are better aligned.... However i am suggesting to add all those Tulip keys in order to offer more options. Those extra key would not rise the price that great but having more options is always better. ;)
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:29:12
Top one?Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.Artur,
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
There are two versions of Tulip in this picture, guess which one would I choose.
An extra would be added into your package if you are right ;)I guess you would choose bottom version since it would cover also some nordic languages.(they are both equal the alignment is different) Top one because they are better aligned.... However i am suggesting to add all those Tulip keys in order to offer more options. Those extra key would not rise the price that great but having more options is always better. ;)
Hard choice... I said top one but i hope you take both ;)
Yes top:)
Post by: Hammer on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:30:58
Last chance.Top one?Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.Artur,
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
There are two versions of Tulip in this picture, guess which one would I choose.
An extra would be added into your package if you are right ;)I guess you would choose bottom version since it would cover also some nordic languages.(they are both equal the alignment is different) Top one because they are better aligned.... However i am suggesting to add all those Tulip keys in order to offer more options. Those extra key would not rise the price that great but having more options is always better. ;)
Hard choice... I said top one but i hope you take both ;)
Yes top:)
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:31:53
Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.Artur,
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
There are two versions of Tulip in this picture, guess which one would I choose.
An extra would be added into your package if you are right ;)I guess you would choose bottom version since it would cover also some nordic languages.(they are both equal the alignment is different) Top one because they are better aligned.... However i am suggesting to add all those Tulip keys in order to offer more options. Those extra key would not rise the price that great but having more options is always better. ;)
I was gonna say bottom because there is more orange :P
About the RGB add-on, while I'm partial to the simple and classic RGB, other color options that match Hammer's reproduction of these sets might be better!
Will regular legends also be offered? Just simple and clean cherry legends.My heart is not simple and clean anymore son. :blank:
Is Desko too simple and clean for you? Do i still have a hope :blank:
From the OP,
"Imsto used to run three BSP groupbuys for me on Geekhack, sorry but I can't make what I made."
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:32:32
OK bottom. You will take bottom. I am sure. :))Last chance.Top one?Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.Artur,
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
There are two versions of Tulip in this picture, guess which one would I choose.
An extra would be added into your package if you are right ;)I guess you would choose bottom version since it would cover also some nordic languages.(they are both equal the alignment is different) Top one because they are better aligned.... However i am suggesting to add all those Tulip keys in order to offer more options. Those extra key would not rise the price that great but having more options is always better. ;)
Hard choice... I said top one but i hope you take both ;)
Yes top:)
Post by: Hammer on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:34:54
Congrats.OK bottom. You will take bottom. I am sure. :))Last chance.Top one?Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.Artur,
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
There are two versions of Tulip in this picture, guess which one would I choose.
An extra would be added into your package if you are right ;)I guess you would choose bottom version since it would cover also some nordic languages.(they are both equal the alignment is different) Top one because they are better aligned.... However i am suggesting to add all those Tulip keys in order to offer more options. Those extra key would not rise the price that great but having more options is always better. ;)
Hard choice... I said top one but i hope you take both ;)
Yes top:)
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:40:09
Congrats.
Did I guess right too?
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:41:30
Congrats.
Thanks! ;D
Making both versions would be even greater :rolleyes: ;)
Post by: Hammer on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:42:17
You smart guy.Congrats.
Did I guess right too?
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Post by: The_judge_168 on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:47:54
Post by: Nafs_asp on Wed, 21 February 2018, 15:23:01
Last chance.Top one?Thanks everyone for the pictures. Tulip is def my fav. Tho APL is nice too.Artur,
@Hammer
Looking at this pictureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/aJadizb.jpg)
i suggest to make RGB Addon (Ctrl, Alt and Shift) keys. Not as we used to know RGB. I am suggesting RGB mod legends on beige base (mod beige ofcourse). That would add a nice touch like the Tulip sublegends do in that picture. Those RGB mods can also be used with APL set.
Bue Shifts, Green Controls, Red/Orange Alts and Red/Orange escape.
Anyway this is just only suggestion and i would not mind if this is not going to happen.
There are two versions of Tulip in this picture, guess which one would I choose.
An extra would be added into your package if you are right ;)I guess you would choose bottom version since it would cover also some nordic languages.(they are both equal the alignment is different) Top one because they are better aligned.... However i am suggesting to add all those Tulip keys in order to offer more options. Those extra key would not rise the price that great but having more options is always better. ;)
Hard choice... I said top one but i hope you take both ;)
Yes top:)
Both please!
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 February 2018, 16:39:36
There are some Desko sets out there, so for now, let's try these NEW sets this run, and we can have an old set re-run for the next GB! I want to see how these turn out first.
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this pls
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Wed, 21 February 2018, 16:44:09
There are some Desko sets out there, so for now, let's try these NEW sets this run, and we can have an old set re-run for the next GB! I want to see how these turn out first.
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this pls
Makes a lot of sense. Very excited for these new sets.
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Post by: megaforce on Wed, 21 February 2018, 18:29:40
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 February 2018, 18:32:08
Desko Hiragana please
banned
Post by: subcat on Wed, 21 February 2018, 18:46:03
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 21 February 2018, 19:28:15
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 21 February 2018, 21:06:38
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 21 February 2018, 21:19:45
Desko Hiragana please
banned
no u
Post by: nsmechkb on Wed, 21 February 2018, 21:31:22
Any chance of Olivetti colorway?
Post by: Hammer on Thu, 22 February 2018, 02:38:18
any BSP set for me is an insta join. Also, did anybody answer regarding the spacebar question?Gmk's L9 7U Spacebar is included.
Post by: Krytone on Thu, 22 February 2018, 02:44:09
expected as much. thanks for the confirmation. Excited to get in the GB!any BSP set for me is an insta join. Also, did anybody answer regarding the spacebar question?Gmk's L9 7U Spacebar is included.
Post by: pkzheng on Thu, 22 February 2018, 03:13:29
How about AEG olympia? with black Cyrillic prints.
Post by: Hammer on Thu, 22 February 2018, 04:54:12
Of course hhahaThere are some Desko sets out there, so for now, let's try these NEW sets this run, and we can have an old set re-run for the next GB! I want to see how these turn out first.
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this pls
Post by: Remsky on Fri, 23 February 2018, 16:09:25
Post by: thelaughingman on Fri, 23 February 2018, 19:15:05
Post by: Hammer on Fri, 23 February 2018, 19:44:13
so Tomb3ry and sncbraxsc2's request was approved.
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='RGB Set'; ;)
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 23 February 2018, 19:49:48
After discussions with BSP, they agreed us to buy the single keys.Hurray!!!!
so the request for Tomb3ry and sncbraxsc2 is passed. ;)
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='RGB Set';
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Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 23 February 2018, 19:52:10
After discussions with BSP, they agreed us to buy the single keys.
so the request for Tomb3ry and sncbraxsc2 is passed. ;)
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='RGB Set';
Awesome! It was a great suggestion by Tomb3ry, I just agreed :) I'm excited to see how the sets will look!!
Post by: Cavemann6 on Fri, 23 February 2018, 20:18:58
After discussions with BSP, they agreed us to buy the single keys.
so Tomb3ry and sncbraxsc2's request was approved.
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='RGB Set'; ;)
Nice, that's awesome! :thumb:
Post by: thelaughingman on Fri, 23 February 2018, 22:51:25
I'm not a fan of Arabic legend, but APL & Tulip are awesome! Count me in :thumb:
After discussions with BSP, they agreed us to buy the single keys.
so Tomb3ry and sncbraxsc2's request was approved.
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='RGB Set'; ;)
wow, count me in for APL & Tulip AND RGB set then :p
Post by: Hammer on Fri, 23 February 2018, 23:42:58
We still work on the tulip, new update of it will coming soon.I'm not a fan of Arabic legend, but APL & Tulip are awesome! Count me in :thumb:After discussions with BSP, they agreed us to buy the single keys.
so Tomb3ry and sncbraxsc2's request was approved.
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='RGB Set'; ;)
wow, count me in for APL & Tulip AND RGB set then :p
Trust me it can make you feel so high like taking some bong.
:D
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 24 February 2018, 00:09:32
Let's hit that bong~~~We still work on the tulip, new update of it will coming soon.I'm not a fan of Arabic legend, but APL & Tulip are awesome! Count me in :thumb:After discussions with BSP, they agreed us to buy the single keys.
so Tomb3ry and sncbraxsc2's request was approved.
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='RGB Set'; ;)
wow, count me in for APL & Tulip AND RGB set then
Trust me it can make you feel so high like taking some bong.
:D
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Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Sat, 24 February 2018, 00:27:05
We still work on the tulip, new update of it will coming soon.I'm not a fan of Arabic legend, but APL & Tulip are awesome! Count me in :thumb:After discussions with BSP, they agreed us to buy the single keys.
so Tomb3ry and sncbraxsc2's request was approved.
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='RGB Set'; ;)
wow, count me in for APL & Tulip AND RGB set then :p
Trust me it can make you feel so high like taking some bong.
:D
This guy :p
Great news though! Will be multiple sets if I can
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Post by: thelaughingman on Sat, 24 February 2018, 01:43:23
We still work on the tulip, new update of it will coming soon.I'm not a fan of Arabic legend, but APL & Tulip are awesome! Count me in :thumb:After discussions with BSP, they agreed us to buy the single keys.
so Tomb3ry and sncbraxsc2's request was approved.
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='RGB Set'; ;)
wow, count me in for APL & Tulip AND RGB set then :p
Trust me it can make you feel so high like taking some bong.
:D
(https://media.giphy.com/media/ddd0HBTakik00/200.gif)
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 24 February 2018, 02:44:32
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 24 February 2018, 03:56:36
After discussions with BSP, they agreed us to buy the single keys.
so Tomb3ry and sncbraxsc2's request was approved.
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='RGB Set'; ;)
This is awesome! Damn this is going to be a huge GB i guess. Since its BSP it will go huge anyway but the rgb mods will make it more exciting.
Does BSP only make homing dots? I mean, no bars or scoops?
Only nipples.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/CXOn5GCxHeuVq/giphy.gif)
I for my self like deepdish but i am not conservative in this case.
Post by: oatmicro on Sat, 24 February 2018, 05:03:24
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 24 February 2018, 06:23:28
Some thoughts to add. I am sure that RGB addon will be successfull. Tho to make it more necessary for some folks it would be interesting (making it more sweet) to add two row4 1u windows 95/98 logos keys and mac os related command and option keys in their particular rgb colors.
This is just suggestion and can be skipped at all. I am actually happy already about getting a chance for rgb mods.
Post by: Krytone on Sat, 24 February 2018, 06:46:41
@HammerI thought BSP only do r5 on bottom row?
Some thoughts to add. I am sure that RGB addon will be successfull. Tho to make it more necessary for some folks it would be interesting (making it more sweet) to add two row4 1u windows 95/98 logos keys and mac os related command and option keys in their particular rgb colors.
This is just suggestion and can be skipped at all. I am actually happy already about getting a chance for rgb mods.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 24 February 2018, 06:50:02
@HammerI thought BSP only do r5 on bottom row?
Some thoughts to add. I am sure that RGB addon will be successfull. Tho to make it more necessary for some folks it would be interesting (making it more sweet) to add two row4 1u windows 95/98 logos keys and mac os related command and option keys in their particular rgb colors.
This is just suggestion and can be skipped at all. I am actually happy already about getting a chance for rgb mods.
I actually dont know. If they do only r5 row then it should be row5 1u win 95/98 logo keys. Anyway you know what i am trying to suggest ;)
Post by: Hammer on Sat, 24 February 2018, 07:33:36
Approved@HammerI thought BSP only do r5 on bottom row?
Some thoughts to add. I am sure that RGB addon will be successfull. Tho to make it more necessary for some folks it would be interesting (making it more sweet) to add two row4 1u windows 95/98 logos keys and mac os related command and option keys in their particular rgb colors.
This is just suggestion and can be skipped at all. I am actually happy already about getting a chance for rgb mods.
I actually dont know. If they do only r5 row then it should be row5 1u win 95/98 logo keys. Anyway you know what i am trying to suggest ;)
Post by: Hammer on Sat, 24 February 2018, 07:36:48
Post by: Nafs_asp on Sat, 24 February 2018, 07:44:51
@HammerI thought BSP only do r5 on bottom row?
Some thoughts to add. I am sure that RGB addon will be successfull. Tho to make it more necessary for some folks it would be interesting (making it more sweet) to add two row4 1u windows 95/98 logos keys and mac os related command and option keys in their particular rgb colors.
This is just suggestion and can be skipped at all. I am actually happy already about getting a chance for rgb mods.
I actually dont know. If they do only r5 row then it should be row5 1u win 95/98 logo keys. Anyway you know what i am trying to suggest ;)
For the bottom row - As far as I know BSP has only made WKL sets with R5 bottom row. That said, they certainly can make 1u R4 keys and if they have the mold for 1.25u ISO shift they should be able to make a WK bottom row (for TKL only). That said, I’ don’t think I’ve seen an ISO BSP set, so it’s possible they don’t have that mold.
I would love to see scooped homing keys with the Arabic set, as I’m not a fan of the nipple. Is there any chance of getting a scooped mold made? Or does logic/BSP not able to do new molds?
Post by: Hammer on Sat, 24 February 2018, 07:55:14
They just have a run-down 101 keys mould with nipples.@HammerI thought BSP only do r5 on bottom row?
Some thoughts to add. I am sure that RGB addon will be successfull. Tho to make it more necessary for some folks it would be interesting (making it more sweet) to add two row4 1u windows 95/98 logos keys and mac os related command and option keys in their particular rgb colors.
This is just suggestion and can be skipped at all. I am actually happy already about getting a chance for rgb mods.
I actually dont know. If they do only r5 row then it should be row5 1u win 95/98 logo keys. Anyway you know what i am trying to suggest ;)
For the bottom row - As far as I know BSP has only made WKL sets with R5 bottom row. That said, they certainly can make 1u R4 keys and if they have the mold for 1.25u ISO shift they should be able to make a WK bottom row (for TKL only). That said, I’ don’t think I’ve seen an ISO BSP set, so it’s possible they don’t have that mold.
I would love to see scooped homing keys with the Arabic set, as I’m not a fan of the nipple. Is there any chance of getting a scooped mold made? Or does logic/BSP not able to do new molds?
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Sat, 24 February 2018, 08:08:00
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='Retro Winkey Sets'; ;)
Just when I was thinking this couldn't get any better!
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Sat, 24 February 2018, 08:11:36
Post by: Nafs_asp on Sat, 24 February 2018, 08:13:37
They just have a run-down 101 keys mould with nipples.@HammerI thought BSP only do r5 on bottom row?
Some thoughts to add. I am sure that RGB addon will be successfull. Tho to make it more necessary for some folks it would be interesting (making it more sweet) to add two row4 1u windows 95/98 logos keys and mac os related command and option keys in their particular rgb colors.
This is just suggestion and can be skipped at all. I am actually happy already about getting a chance for rgb mods.
I actually dont know. If they do only r5 row then it should be row5 1u win 95/98 logo keys. Anyway you know what i am trying to suggest ;)
For the bottom row - As far as I know BSP has only made WKL sets with R5 bottom row. That said, they certainly can make 1u R4 keys and if they have the mold for 1.25u ISO shift they should be able to make a WK bottom row (for TKL only). That said, I’ don’t think I’ve seen an ISO BSP set, so it’s possible they don’t have that mold.
I would love to see scooped homing keys with the Arabic set, as I’m not a fan of the nipple. Is there any chance of getting a scooped mold made? Or does logic/BSP not able to do new molds?
Thanks for clarifying Hammer! Maybe one day they will make scoops.
By the way, if you need Tulip caps let me know, you can borrow mine:
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Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 24 February 2018, 08:15:34
Post by: Hammer on Sat, 24 February 2018, 08:16:27
Thanks for your kindness, I've already got them. :))They just have a run-down 101 keys mould with nipples.@HammerI thought BSP only do r5 on bottom row?
Some thoughts to add. I am sure that RGB addon will be successfull. Tho to make it more necessary for some folks it would be interesting (making it more sweet) to add two row4 1u windows 95/98 logos keys and mac os related command and option keys in their particular rgb colors.
This is just suggestion and can be skipped at all. I am actually happy already about getting a chance for rgb mods.
I actually dont know. If they do only r5 row then it should be row5 1u win 95/98 logo keys. Anyway you know what i am trying to suggest ;)
For the bottom row - As far as I know BSP has only made WKL sets with R5 bottom row. That said, they certainly can make 1u R4 keys and if they have the mold for 1.25u ISO shift they should be able to make a WK bottom row (for TKL only). That said, I’ don’t think I’ve seen an ISO BSP set, so it’s possible they don’t have that mold.
I would love to see scooped homing keys with the Arabic set, as I’m not a fan of the nipple. Is there any chance of getting a scooped mold made? Or does logic/BSP not able to do new molds?
Thanks for clarifying Hammer! Maybe one day they will make scoops.
By the way, if you need Tulip caps let me know, you can borrow mine:
(Attachment Link)
Post by: Hammer on Sat, 24 February 2018, 08:17:36
After discussions with BSP, they agreed us to buy the single keys.
so Tomb3ry and sncbraxsc2's request was approved.
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='RGB Set'; ;)
This is awesome! Damn this is going to be a huge GB i guess. Since its BSP it will go huge anyway but the rgb mods will make it more exciting.Does BSP only make homing dots? I mean, no bars or scoops?
Only nipples.Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/CXOn5GCxHeuVq/giphy.gif)
I for my self like deepdish but i am not conservative in this case.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 24 February 2018, 08:22:09
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='Retro Winkey Sets'; ;)
Thanks! :thumb:
After discussions with BSP, they agreed us to buy the single keys.
so Tomb3ry and sncbraxsc2's request was approved.
UPDATE Feb 24#added items='RGB Set'; ;)
This is awesome! Damn this is going to be a huge GB i guess. Since its BSP it will go huge anyway but the rgb mods will make it more exciting.Does BSP only make homing dots? I mean, no bars or scoops?
Only nipples.Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/CXOn5GCxHeuVq/giphy.gif)
I for my self like deepdish but i am not conservative in this case.
hahaha
Well that was the only gif i could find with distinctive pronaunced nipples ;)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 24 February 2018, 11:37:49
Post by: Hammer on Sat, 24 February 2018, 13:09:57
Got any info on pricing yet?Same as Imsto's bsp groupbuy I think.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 24 February 2018, 13:28:09
Got any info on pricing yet?Same as Imsto's bsp groupbuy I think.
$140 ($160 for peacock), for anyone who doesn't want to go hunt that down.
about what i'd expect then, not too bad
thanks
Post by: Hammer on Sat, 24 February 2018, 21:53:19
2 versions of them? No It's too less.
The whole 3 versions is included in one tulip set,
Now.
UPDATE Feb 25# Modify items='Tulip Set'; ;)
Post by: o3okevin on Sat, 24 February 2018, 22:13:41
After thinking about your guys' requests I decided to reward those who really liked it.Insane! Can't wait for the GB to start now.
2 versions of them? No It's too less.
The whole 3 versions is included in one tulip set,
Now.
UPDATE Feb 25# Modify items='Tulip Set'; ;)
Post by: Krytone on Sat, 24 February 2018, 23:00:49
After thinking about your guys' requests I decided to reward those who really liked it.Oh yeah! Any timeline on when the gb starts?
2 versions of them? No It's too less.
The whole 3 versions is included in one tulip set,
Now.
UPDATE Feb 25# Modify items='Tulip Set'; ;)
Post by: loud_asian on Sun, 25 February 2018, 00:21:47
Post by: Techno Trousers on Sun, 25 February 2018, 00:26:41
Post by: loud_asian on Sun, 25 February 2018, 00:34:43
What are banana shifts?
The ends of the shift caps bend upwards so when the key is flat on the table it rocks side to side
Post by: Krytone on Sun, 25 February 2018, 01:18:45
Also the crooked caps lock. Are those fixed?What are banana shifts?
The ends of the shift caps bend upwards so when the key is flat on the table it rocks side to side
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 25 February 2018, 01:20:20
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Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 25 February 2018, 01:50:28
Does BSP still have crooked stems/ banana shifts?
Yes, and I have been told by a few people that they (i think the 1u caps) are not so good on Gateron switches because of it.
Good thing is that people are pointing out all the problems so perhaps we have hopes of fixing them if at all.
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I'm suspect about BSP changing anything, but maybe if we do a few GBs they'll fix the issues.
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 25 February 2018, 01:57:11
We could always figure out a way to replace just the problematic keys...Does BSP still have crooked stems/ banana shifts?
Yes, and I have been told by a few people that they (i think the 1u caps) are not so good on Gateron switches because of it.Good thing is that people are pointing out all the problems so perhaps we have hopes of fixing them if at all.
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I'm suspect about BSP changing anything, but maybe if we do a few GBs they'll fix the issues.
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Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 25 February 2018, 01:59:27
We could always figure out a way to replace just the problematic keys...Does BSP still have crooked stems/ banana shifts?
Yes, and I have been told by a few people that they (i think the 1u caps) are not so good on Gateron switches because of it.Good thing is that people are pointing out all the problems so perhaps we have hopes of fixing them if at all.
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I'm suspect about BSP changing anything, but maybe if we do a few GBs they'll fix the issues.
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gofundme for expanded and corrected BSP molds when
Post by: Krytone on Sun, 25 February 2018, 02:28:24
Does BSP still have crooked stems/ banana shifts?I think the banana shifts are because of the material reacting through shipping them and diff temp?. I think thats also why they dont do spacebar cause of how bad it would bend for longer keys so i dont think this is a problem with the tooling. Mostly an issue with pbt i guess?
Post by: hansichen on Sun, 25 February 2018, 03:58:08
Does BSP still have crooked stems/ banana shifts?I think the banana shifts are because of the material reacting through shipping them and diff temp?. I think thats also why they dont do spacebar cause of how bad it would bend for longer keys so i dont think this is a problem with the tooling. Mostly an issue with pbt i guess?
It's not an issue with pbt, these molds made perfect keycaps when they belonged to Cherry. So either way the molds are ****ed up or bsp doesn't know what they are doing.
Post by: Krytone on Sun, 25 February 2018, 04:44:31
maybe, its just weird it happens to SP pbt too like DSA granite while its thinner, also the reason the banana defect is worst. Also have epbt sets where it happens on their spacebar thats why i only use ABS on all my boards except for my mt3 set.Does BSP still have crooked stems/ banana shifts?I think the banana shifts are because of the material reacting through shipping them and diff temp?. I think thats also why they dont do spacebar cause of how bad it would bend for longer keys so i dont think this is a problem with the tooling. Mostly an issue with pbt i guess?
It's not an issue with pbt, these molds made perfect keycaps when they belonged to Cherry. So either way the molds are ****ed up or bsp doesn't know what they are doing.
Post by: Hammer on Sun, 25 February 2018, 07:33:28
What about this :blank:
Post by: Nafs_asp on Sun, 25 February 2018, 07:36:19
It's really difficult to change ISO into ANSI.
What about this :blank:
Standing by
Post by: Hammer on Sun, 25 February 2018, 07:37:00
Wait I just uploaded a wrong one.It's really difficult to change ISO into ANSI.
What about this :blank:
I think it would be better to switch the ] and [ so they look like [ ] next to each other.
Post by: avid on Sun, 25 February 2018, 08:09:21
ANSI APL
ANSI Tulip
RGB Set
Post by: Cavemann6 on Sun, 25 February 2018, 16:49:00
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Sun, 25 February 2018, 18:34:01
Is there more info / pics on these sets:
ANSI APL
ANSI Tulip
RGB Set
Hey dude, here are some references for you :thumb:
tulip - https://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/tulip-branded-g81-3246haf-strange-azerty-t10168.html
see the previous pages of this thread for the different variations of the pretty pad printed keys
APL - https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-3471
and the RGB set will be colored legends on beige modifers which should look good with pretty much every BSP/Cherry style PBT set ever. Like this
(http://i.imgur.com/kqjn6tB.jpg)
Post by: Hammer on Mon, 26 February 2018, 04:30:09
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Mon, 26 February 2018, 06:04:21
Done ;)
Wow. :D
Post by: Helldrop on Mon, 26 February 2018, 06:11:31
Done ;)Nice work!
Post by: zekkin on Mon, 26 February 2018, 06:30:52
Done ;)
Oh man.
(https://zekk.in/up/1459859902458.jpg)
This GB can't start soon enough!
Post by: avid on Mon, 26 February 2018, 07:07:17
info
Thanks a lot, appreciate it!
Is the Tulip pack only the incredible ISO keys or will it be bundled as a whole 104 key set?
Post by: Petch on Mon, 26 February 2018, 09:39:16
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Mon, 26 February 2018, 10:01:17
info
Thanks a lot, appreciate it!
Is the Tulip pack only the incredible ISO keys or will it be bundled as a whole 104 key set?
BSP is 101 (Winkeyless layout) keys. The tulip set will have 2 extra variants of the colored 3 key pack, so probably a total of 107 keys for the Tulip set unless they are sold separate to the base kit.
Post by: hansichen on Mon, 26 February 2018, 11:04:45
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 26 February 2018, 12:13:39
I hope the tulip keys will be seperate. Many people don't need an ansi 101 set so having these keys as a standalone would be neat
but i want my set to feel uniform, especially if i'm gonna drop a lot of money on caps
Post by: zekkin on Mon, 26 February 2018, 12:38:40
I hope the tulip keys will be seperate. Many people don't need an ansi 101 set so having these keys as a standalone would be neat
but i want my set to feel uniform, especially if i'm gonna drop a lot of money on caps
Same, I don't want to have to buy a separate BSP set just to use my BSP Tulip keys on. I'd really prefer to get the full set with the Tulip "accents."
Post by: hansichen on Mon, 26 February 2018, 13:42:40
I hope the tulip keys will be seperate. Many people don't need an ansi 101 set so having these keys as a standalone would be neat
but i want my set to feel uniform, especially if i'm gonna drop a lot of money on caps
Using OG caps will feel uniform and you can get proper homing keys. There is definetly a market for pure accent keys and I would like to see it as a seperate kit. Many GBs have the novelties as special kits so it wouldn't be that uncommon.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 26 February 2018, 15:43:37
I hope the tulip keys will be seperate. Many people don't need an ansi 101 set so having these keys as a standalone would be neat
but i want my set to feel uniform, especially if i'm gonna drop a lot of money on caps
Using OG caps will feel uniform and you can get proper homing keys. There is definetly a market for pure accent keys and I would like to see it as a seperate kit. Many GBs have the novelties as special kits so it wouldn't be that uncommon.
OG dyesubs are like twice the price of a BSP set (for a decent set) and doesn't feel the same
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 26 February 2018, 16:23:44
Any chance of getting more than just standard ANSI 104? 75%, HHKB, 1800, etc.?
Interested in the answer to this as well.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 26 February 2018, 16:28:09
Any chance of getting more than just standard ANSI 104? 75%, HHKB, 1800, etc.?
Interested in the answer to this as well.
No, It's BSP.
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 26 February 2018, 16:39:32
Any chance of getting more than just standard ANSI 104? 75%, HHKB, 1800, etc.?
Interested in the answer to this as well.
No, It's BSP.
What exactly about BSP prevents support for additional layouts? I'm under the impression that BSP will provide the blanks and Hammer will be doing the dye-subbing.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 26 February 2018, 16:43:54
Any chance of getting more than just standard ANSI 104? 75%, HHKB, 1800, etc.?
Interested in the answer to this as well.
No, It's BSP.
What exactly about BSP prevents support for additional layouts? I'm under the impression that BSP will provide the blanks and Hammer will be doing the dye-subbing.
No R4 1.75u, so that kinda kills a lot of non-87/104 layouts.
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 26 February 2018, 16:55:17
Any chance of getting more than just standard ANSI 104? 75%, HHKB, 1800, etc.?
Interested in the answer to this as well.
No, It's BSP.
What exactly about BSP prevents support for additional layouts? I'm under the impression that BSP will provide the blanks and Hammer will be doing the dye-subbing.
No R4 1.75u, so that kinda kills a lot of non-87/104 layouts.
Understood. Yes, that R4 1.75u is pretty pivotal for many of the more popular non-standard layouts. Thanks for the clarification.
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 26 February 2018, 19:00:27
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 26 February 2018, 19:15:31
I never had any experience BSP being flexible about layouts in the past buys. They just made keys on what moulds they have as from what ive seen in gbs. Also, unless you already have an r5 bottom row in your layout, i dont think you can mix these with other sets.
Correct. BSP also doesn't have 1.25x r5 or r4. Only 1.5x.
Post by: Mahm on Mon, 26 February 2018, 19:40:50
Done ;)
OMFG
Post by: Minha on Mon, 26 February 2018, 19:54:17
Does BSP only make homing dots? I mean, no bars or scoops?bro shut up, seriously
Post by: Waateva on Mon, 26 February 2018, 20:16:38
Post by: Techno Trousers on Mon, 26 February 2018, 23:45:37
BSP also doesn't have 1.25x r5 or r4. Only 1.5x.
I think I'm going to be out on this, then. I don't have any old school Cherry boards with 1.5x bottom row mods.
Post by: thelaughingman on Tue, 27 February 2018, 09:12:42
BSP also doesn't have 1.25x r5 or r4. Only 1.5x.
I think I'm going to be out on this, then. I don't have any old school Cherry boards with 1.5x bottom row mods. YET
I corrected it for you :p
Post by: Sshimosawa on Tue, 27 February 2018, 11:18:58
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 27 February 2018, 13:01:38
(https://i.imgur.com/qshDSsU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FAlYEAR.jpg)
This is actually first pbt keycaps in cherry profile which i do like.
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 27 February 2018, 13:26:19
Post by: donut_sauce on Tue, 27 February 2018, 14:24:37
Got my BSP Desko today and i must say i am impressed.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qshDSsU.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FAlYEAR.jpg)
This is actually first pbt keycaps in cherry profile which i do like.
That looks awesome :thumb:
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Tue, 27 February 2018, 14:59:44
Got my BSP Desko today and i must say i am impressed.Ugh so nice man. Send them this way when you’re done with them :pShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/qshDSsU.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FAlYEAR.jpg)
This is actually first pbt keycaps in cherry profile which i do like.
Post by: nastrovje on Thu, 01 March 2018, 22:45:05
In for APL, Tulip and RGB
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 03 March 2018, 06:35:54
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4744/40590719701_c6e04bd7aa_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24QS3NR)BSP Desko (https://flic.kr/p/24QS3NR) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4662/26719049988_b6bc52b259_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GH57FE)BSP Desko (https://flic.kr/p/GH57FE) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4620/40590722891_12df2453d3_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24QS4KR)BSP Desko left modifiers (https://flic.kr/p/24QS4KR) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4742/26719054468_f826fc575b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GH591U)BSP Desko right modifiers (https://flic.kr/p/GH591U) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4651/40590717361_97bce7f7d5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24QS37v)BSP Desko navigation cluster (https://flic.kr/p/24QS37v) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
Post by: Waateva on Sat, 03 March 2018, 08:36:42
Show Image
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Did some better photos of BSP Desko.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4744/40590719701_c6e04bd7aa_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24QS3NR)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4662/26719049988_b6bc52b259_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GH57FE)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4620/40590722891_12df2453d3_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24QS4KR)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4742/26719054468_f826fc575b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GH591U)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4651/40590717361_97bce7f7d5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24QS37v)BSP Desko navigation cluster (https://flic.kr/p/24QS37v) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
damn nice
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Sat, 03 March 2018, 09:05:25
Show Image
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Did some better photos of BSP Desko.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4744/40590719701_c6e04bd7aa_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24QS3NR)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4662/26719049988_b6bc52b259_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GH57FE)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4620/40590722891_12df2453d3_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24QS4KR)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4742/26719054468_f826fc575b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GH591U)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4651/40590717361_97bce7f7d5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24QS37v)BSP Desko navigation cluster (https://flic.kr/p/24QS37v) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
Hell yeah. Always loved desko
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Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 03 March 2018, 09:18:30
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Post by: Nafs_asp on Sat, 03 March 2018, 11:25:41
Post by: Hammer on Sat, 03 March 2018, 12:15:38
Hi Hammer, for Arabic SAA can we get F and J with no homing too? Just normal key for them and the usual BSP nippleLet me see how many people agree with you.
(1/10)
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 03 March 2018, 12:18:35
Post by: oatmicro on Sat, 03 March 2018, 12:24:55
Hi Hammer, for Arabic SAA can we get F and J with no homing too? Just normal key for them and the usual BSP nippleLet me see how many people agree with you.
(1/10)
+1 for no homing F and J
edit: also please keep the nipples alive to avoid drama
Post by: mech0nly on Sat, 03 March 2018, 12:43:00
Hi Hammer, for Arabic SAA can we get F and J with no homing too? Just normal key for them and the usual BSP nippleLet me see how many people agree with you.
(1/10)
+1 for no homing F and J
Agree
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Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 03 March 2018, 12:50:18
i don't know why everyone hates them
Post by: Nafs_asp on Sat, 03 March 2018, 12:56:44
i like the nipple
i don't know why everyone hates them
I’m just suggesting having both options, might be nice since the nipple is a love/hate thing
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 03 March 2018, 12:59:21
i like the nipple
i don't know why everyone hates them
I’m just suggesting having both options, might be nice since the nipple is a love/hate thing
both is fine, but it seems people only want one or the other
a bit different than scoops/bars debate
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 03 March 2018, 13:32:28
Post by: Cavemann6 on Sat, 03 March 2018, 14:08:08
Post by: nastrovje on Sat, 03 March 2018, 14:44:28
I also would love a novelty key saying GH/DT or r/mk or Discord/Slack
Nvm the other idea I had before..
Post by: Nafs_asp on Sat, 03 March 2018, 14:51:44
I do prefer bars over nipples, but why would anyone want no homing at all? How do you find the right position on the board without looking? :confused:
I have a different suggestion and maybe it doesn't have place in this GB run, but
What would you think of adding international keys?
Looks like a lot of work, but I think it would be a dream of many.
German layout apl and I explode
I don’t think that would be very feasible for BSP since BSP doesn’t make ISO Enter or 1.25u Left Shift.
As for the homing keys, BSP only has nipples, so it’s either nipples or no homing. I think having both is good because it at least let’s people who hate the nipples have an alternative. I personally don’t need homing keys to type and have some cherry profile typewriter caps (Royal Alpha 115) that have no homing.
Post by: nastrovje on Sat, 03 March 2018, 14:56:45
I don’t think that would be very feasible for BSP since BSP doesn’t make ISO Enter or 1.25u Left Shift.
As for the homing keys, BSP only has nipples, so it’s either nipples or no homing. I think having both is good because it at least let’s people who hate the nipples have an alternative. I personally don’t need homing keys to type and have some cherry profile typewriter caps (Royal Alpha 115) that have no homing.
Slow me :))
I think ISO isn't a must, I've talked to many that just want Ö, Ä, Ü, +, # and the number row with correct legends.
to correct this section atleast: https://deskthority.net/w/images/a/a4/Apl02.jpg
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 03 March 2018, 15:15:03
I do prefer bars over nipples, but why would anyone want no homing at all? How do you find the right position on the board without looking? :confused:
Muscle memory? Not sure if you're asking in a serious manner or not. I rather the feel of uniformity of having no homing at all since I don't need it for anything, the haptic feedback I get from the dish/bar bothers me more than it helps because of that.
It's not a super serious problem, it doesn't really piss me off or anything but if that can be made an option here alongside the nipples then I'm definitely all for it.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 03 March 2018, 15:43:41
I don’t think that would be very feasible for BSP since BSP doesn’t make ISO Enter or 1.25u Left Shift.
As for the homing keys, BSP only has nipples, so it’s either nipples or no homing. I think having both is good because it at least let’s people who hate the nipples have an alternative. I personally don’t need homing keys to type and have some cherry profile typewriter caps (Royal Alpha 115) that have no homing.
Slow me :))
I think ISO isn't a must, I've talked to many that just want Ö, Ä, Ü, +, # and the number row with correct legends.
to correct this section atleast: https://deskthority.net/w/images/a/a4/Apl02.jpg
no thanks i don't want to pay for keys i'm not gonna use
that's whole draw of BSP for me in the first place
Post by: Nafs_asp on Sat, 03 March 2018, 15:51:14
I don’t think that would be very feasible for BSP since BSP doesn’t make ISO Enter or 1.25u Left Shift.
As for the homing keys, BSP only has nipples, so it’s either nipples or no homing. I think having both is good because it at least let’s people who hate the nipples have an alternative. I personally don’t need homing keys to type and have some cherry profile typewriter caps (Royal Alpha 115) that have no homing.
Slow me :))
I think ISO isn't a must, I've talked to many that just want Ö, Ä, Ü, +, # and the number row with correct legends.
to correct this section atleast: https://deskthority.net/w/images/a/a4/Apl02.jpg
no thanks i don't want to pay for keys i'm not gonna use
that's whole draw of BSP for me in the first place
It just seems like it isn’t the right GB for it. Int’l kits are always hard to get to MOQ and it takes a lot of keys to adapt to just one language. My suggestion for a set of non-homing F and J at least only adds two keys.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 03 March 2018, 15:53:05
I don’t think that would be very feasible for BSP since BSP doesn’t make ISO Enter or 1.25u Left Shift.
As for the homing keys, BSP only has nipples, so it’s either nipples or no homing. I think having both is good because it at least let’s people who hate the nipples have an alternative. I personally don’t need homing keys to type and have some cherry profile typewriter caps (Royal Alpha 115) that have no homing.
Slow me :))
I think ISO isn't a must, I've talked to many that just want Ö, Ä, Ü, +, # and the number row with correct legends.
to correct this section atleast: https://deskthority.net/w/images/a/a4/Apl02.jpg
no thanks i don't want to pay for keys i'm not gonna use
that's whole draw of BSP for me in the first place
It just seems like it isn’t the right GB for it. Int’l kits are always hard to get to MOQ and it takes a lot of keys to adapt to just one language. My suggestion for a set of non-homing F and J at least only adds two keys.
non-homing is fine, easiest solution to the homing key debate
but 95% of people are never gonna use ISO language keys
especially since BSP can't do ISO enter as far as i know
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Sat, 03 March 2018, 16:40:06
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Post by: nastrovje on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:02:04
I don’t think that would be very feasible for BSP since BSP doesn’t make ISO Enter or 1.25u Left Shift.
As for the homing keys, BSP only has nipples, so it’s either nipples or no homing. I think having both is good because it at least let’s people who hate the nipples have an alternative. I personally don’t need homing keys to type and have some cherry profile typewriter caps (Royal Alpha 115) that have no homing.
Slow me :))
I think ISO isn't a must, I've talked to many that just want Ö, Ä, Ü, +, # and the number row with correct legends.
to correct this section atleast: https://deskthority.net/w/images/a/a4/Apl02.jpg
no thanks i don't want to pay for keys i'm not gonna use
that's whole draw of BSP for me in the first place
Wouldn't want you to pay for anything you don't need. I thought about an add-on kit for the most popular set. Same as I don't want to pay for a whole keyset just to get a few Tulip keys.
UK Kit needs only a small amount of keys and I think you underestimate the amount of germans on Deskthority. MOQ 100 is probably still too much unfortunately.
But what alternative to BSP do you even have? The draw is to get a PBT set with these legends in the good quality. The OG Cherry PBT Arabic set is 700$+ probably if its similar to Cyrillic. If he offers only with int'l kit for 30$ more you would most likely still buy.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:10:13
I don’t think that would be very feasible for BSP since BSP doesn’t make ISO Enter or 1.25u Left Shift.
As for the homing keys, BSP only has nipples, so it’s either nipples or no homing. I think having both is good because it at least let’s people who hate the nipples have an alternative. I personally don’t need homing keys to type and have some cherry profile typewriter caps (Royal Alpha 115) that have no homing.
Slow me :))
I think ISO isn't a must, I've talked to many that just want Ö, Ä, Ü, +, # and the number row with correct legends.
to correct this section atleast: https://deskthority.net/w/images/a/a4/Apl02.jpg
no thanks i don't want to pay for keys i'm not gonna use
that's whole draw of BSP for me in the first place
Wouldn't want you to pay for anything you don't need. I thought about an add-on kit for the most popular set. Same as I don't want to pay for a whole keyset just to get a few Tulip keys.
UK Kit needs only a small amount of keys and I think you underestimate the amount of germans on Deskthority. MOQ 100 is probably still too much unfortunately.
But what alternative to BSP do you even have? The draw is to get a PBT set with these legends in the good quality. The OG Cherry PBT Arabic set is 700$+ probably if its similar to Cyrillic. If he offers only with int'l kit for 30$ more you would most likely still buy.
OG arabic is blank check, only 3 sets have ever been found
BSP has everything included in this image and that's it
the spacebar is ABS made by GMK, since BSP doesn't have the molds for spacebars
(http://i.imgur.com/G4TVL6T.jpg)
Post by: equalunique on Sat, 03 March 2018, 23:55:46
Post by: Hammer on Sun, 04 March 2018, 06:22:46
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Sun, 04 March 2018, 09:09:54
I don’t think that would be very feasible for BSP since BSP doesn’t make ISO Enter or 1.25u Left Shift.
As for the homing keys, BSP only has nipples, so it’s either nipples or no homing. I think having both is good because it at least let’s people who hate the nipples have an alternative. I personally don’t need homing keys to type and have some cherry profile typewriter caps (Royal Alpha 115) that have no homing.
Slow me :))
I think ISO isn't a must, I've talked to many that just want Ö, Ä, Ü, +, # and the number row with correct legends.
to correct this section atleast: https://deskthority.net/w/images/a/a4/Apl02.jpg
no thanks i don't want to pay for keys i'm not gonna use
that's whole draw of BSP for me in the first place
Wouldn't want you to pay for anything you don't need. I thought about an add-on kit for the most popular set. Same as I don't want to pay for a whole keyset just to get a few Tulip keys.
UK Kit needs only a small amount of keys and I think you underestimate the amount of germans on Deskthority. MOQ 100 is probably still too much unfortunately.
But what alternative to BSP do you even have? The draw is to get a PBT set with these legends in the good quality. The OG Cherry PBT Arabic set is 700$+ probably if its similar to Cyrillic. If he offers only with int'l kit for 30$ more you would most likely still buy.
OG arabic is blank check, only 3 sets have ever been found
BSP has everything included in this image and that's it
the spacebar is ABS made by GMK, since BSP doesn't have the molds for spacebarsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/G4TVL6T.jpg)
Out of curiosity, how would one identify between an OG set and a more recent BSP one? PBT spacebar or something? I know **** all about retro stuff
Post by: Nafs_asp on Sun, 04 March 2018, 09:17:05
I don’t think that would be very feasible for BSP since BSP doesn’t make ISO Enter or 1.25u Left Shift.
As for the homing keys, BSP only has nipples, so it’s either nipples or no homing. I think having both is good because it at least let’s people who hate the nipples have an alternative. I personally don’t need homing keys to type and have some cherry profile typewriter caps (Royal Alpha 115) that have no homing.
Slow me :))
I think ISO isn't a must, I've talked to many that just want Ö, Ä, Ü, +, # and the number row with correct legends.
to correct this section atleast: https://deskthority.net/w/images/a/a4/Apl02.jpg
no thanks i don't want to pay for keys i'm not gonna use
that's whole draw of BSP for me in the first place
Wouldn't want you to pay for anything you don't need. I thought about an add-on kit for the most popular set. Same as I don't want to pay for a whole keyset just to get a few Tulip keys.
UK Kit needs only a small amount of keys and I think you underestimate the amount of germans on Deskthority. MOQ 100 is probably still too much unfortunately.
But what alternative to BSP do you even have? The draw is to get a PBT set with these legends in the good quality. The OG Cherry PBT Arabic set is 700$+ probably if its similar to Cyrillic. If he offers only with int'l kit for 30$ more you would most likely still buy.
OG arabic is blank check, only 3 sets have ever been found
BSP has everything included in this image and that's it
the spacebar is ABS made by GMK, since BSP doesn't have the molds for spacebarsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/G4TVL6T.jpg)
Out of curiosity, how would one identify between an OG set and a more recent BSP one? PBT spacebar or something? I know **** all about retro stuff
There will be discernible differences side by side with Cherry dye subs and BSP. The legends on Cherry will be finer and Cherry sets come with scooped homing keys. BSP also has warped shifts (“banana shifts”) and BSP sets have a few keys marked “BSP” on the under side.
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Sun, 04 March 2018, 09:24:14
I don’t think that would be very feasible for BSP since BSP doesn’t make ISO Enter or 1.25u Left Shift.
As for the homing keys, BSP only has nipples, so it’s either nipples or no homing. I think having both is good because it at least let’s people who hate the nipples have an alternative. I personally don’t need homing keys to type and have some cherry profile typewriter caps (Royal Alpha 115) that have no homing.
Slow me :))
I think ISO isn't a must, I've talked to many that just want Ö, Ä, Ü, +, # and the number row with correct legends.
to correct this section atleast: https://deskthority.net/w/images/a/a4/Apl02.jpg
no thanks i don't want to pay for keys i'm not gonna use
that's whole draw of BSP for me in the first place
Wouldn't want you to pay for anything you don't need. I thought about an add-on kit for the most popular set. Same as I don't want to pay for a whole keyset just to get a few Tulip keys.
UK Kit needs only a small amount of keys and I think you underestimate the amount of germans on Deskthority. MOQ 100 is probably still too much unfortunately.
But what alternative to BSP do you even have? The draw is to get a PBT set with these legends in the good quality. The OG Cherry PBT Arabic set is 700$+ probably if its similar to Cyrillic. If he offers only with int'l kit for 30$ more you would most likely still buy.
OG arabic is blank check, only 3 sets have ever been found
BSP has everything included in this image and that's it
the spacebar is ABS made by GMK, since BSP doesn't have the molds for spacebarsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/G4TVL6T.jpg)
Out of curiosity, how would one identify between an OG set and a more recent BSP one? PBT spacebar or something? I know **** all about retro stuff
There will be discernible differences side by side with Cherry dye subs and BSP. The legends on Cherry will be finer and Cherry sets come with scooped homing keys. BSP also has warped shifts (“banana shifts”) and BSP sets have a few keys marked “BSP” on the under side.
Ah I see, thanks for the info.
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 04 March 2018, 11:13:15
Edit: Wait, I think based on the update they’re added now? Not replaced right?
Woot! Maybe we can get a 1u Row 4 |\ (For Split Backspace)? If not, I don’t mind. Just glad we get both F/J options now.
Post by: Hammer on Sun, 04 March 2018, 14:53:04
Can we get both homing dots and non homing dots? I can’t imagine 2 extra keycaps pushing the price up too much. I’d like everyone to win here. :(They won't raise the price. ;)
Edit: Wait, I think based on the update they’re added now? Not replaced right?
Woot! Maybe we can get a 1u Row 4 |\ (For Split Backspace)? If not, I don’t mind. Just glad we get both F/J options now.
Post by: Hammer on Mon, 05 March 2018, 07:29:29
UPDATE Mar 05#added items='Tulip OG Set'; ;)
Post by: fublamchu on Mon, 05 March 2018, 07:33:12
Post by: hansichen on Mon, 05 March 2018, 07:46:33
Post by: nastrovje on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:26:06
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:21:08
Can we please be able to buy only the Tulip keys without set? I have so many standard sets already
no thank you
So there are two versions of base of tulip. If you like the simple looking just choose the OG set. If you like that with blue Greek legends, choose the GK one
UPDATE Mar 05#added items='Tulip OG Set'; ;)
like em both
the 1u keys are a nice touch
Post by: nastrovje on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:30:09
Can we please be able to buy only the Tulip keys without set? I have so many standard sets already
no thank you
Why are you against it puddsy? Why not offer both? Whole set and Tulip keys seperately?
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:40:06
Can we please be able to buy only the Tulip keys without set? I have so many standard sets already
no thank you
Why are you against it puddsy? Why not offer both? Whole set and Tulip keys seperately?
most people don't have matching sets lying around, and sorting could be annoying
and MOQ is kinda big so that might take away from it for those of us that don't have matching sets
Post by: Hammer on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:57:23
Can we please be able to buy only the Tulip keys without set? I have so many standard sets alreadySorry I don't know how to calculate the cost of that.
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Tue, 06 March 2018, 05:55:58
No question about it, I will have to get both Tulip and Arabic
Also, I vote for hebrew next round (I realise it was run previously, hence it not being in R4..)
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 06 March 2018, 07:56:42
Tulip mock up looks solid :thumb:Would love to see re-runs of every set eventually. Peacock, Irish, Cyrillic Red, Cyrillic Blue, Desko... Etc
No question about it, I will have to get both Tulip and Arabic
Also, I vote for hebrew next round (I realise it was run previously, hence it not being in R4..)
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Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 06 March 2018, 08:05:54
(...)Cyrillic Red(...)
pls yes
Post by: dblack on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:44:42
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Did some better photos of BSP Desko.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4744/40590719701_c6e04bd7aa_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24QS3NR)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4662/26719049988_b6bc52b259_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GH57FE)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4620/40590722891_12df2453d3_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24QS4KR)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4742/26719054468_f826fc575b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GH591U)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4651/40590717361_97bce7f7d5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24QS37v)BSP Desko navigation cluster (https://flic.kr/p/24QS37v) by T0mb3ry (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151659186@N03/), auf Flickr
desko is gorgeous man, i need ^-^
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 06 March 2018, 11:54:56
It took me a lot of time to copy that from Cherry's original Arabic keycaps, I'll let the similarity reach 95%.
R4 GB List
- Arabic Ansi
- APL Ansi
- Tulip OG Ansi
- Tulip GK Ansi
- RGB Set
- Retro Winkey Set
Tulip with Greek legends??? I wonder what this will look like! Sounds awesome
Mockup with Icon only legends too!! Is that accurate?
Post by: hansichen on Tue, 06 March 2018, 12:51:49
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:13:00
Tulip mock up looks solid :thumb:Would love to see re-runs of every set eventually. Peacock, Irish, Cyrillic Red, Cyrillic Blue, Desko... Etc
No question about it, I will have to get both Tulip and Arabic
Also, I vote for hebrew next round (I realise it was run previously, hence it not being in R4..)
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Yeah scratch that. Desko is the hottest set tbh
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Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:34:30
Tulip mock up looks solid :thumb:Would love to see re-runs of every set eventually. Peacock, Irish, Cyrillic Red, Cyrillic Blue, Desko... Etc
No question about it, I will have to get both Tulip and Arabic
Also, I vote for hebrew next round (I realise it was run previously, hence it not being in R4..)
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Yeah scratch that. Desko is the hottest set tbh
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i love my OG desko set, so cannot be opposed to a BSP version
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 06 March 2018, 18:46:52
OG with the icon but not GKIt took me a lot of time to copy that from Cherry's original Arabic keycaps, I'll let the similarity reach 95%.
R4 GB List
- Arabic Ansi
- APL Ansi
- Tulip OG Ansi
- Tulip GK Ansi
- RGB Set
- Retro Winkey Set
Tulip with Greek legends??? I wonder what this will look like! Sounds awesome
Mockup with Icon only legends too!! Is that accurate?
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 06 March 2018, 19:10:22
OG with the icon but not GKIt took me a lot of time to copy that from Cherry's original Arabic keycaps, I'll let the similarity reach 95%.
R4 GB List
- Arabic Ansi
- APL Ansi
- Tulip OG Ansi
- Tulip GK Ansi
- RGB Set
- Retro Winkey Set
Tulip with Greek legends??? I wonder what this will look like! Sounds awesome
Mockup with Icon only legends too!! Is that accurate?
:eek: The way this looks, I may need one of everything...
Thank you
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Tue, 06 March 2018, 19:10:26
*flex* hahaTulip mock up looks solid :thumb:Would love to see re-runs of every set eventually. Peacock, Irish, Cyrillic Red, Cyrillic Blue, Desko... Etc
No question about it, I will have to get both Tulip and Arabic
Also, I vote for hebrew next round (I realise it was run previously, hence it not being in R4..)
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Yeah scratch that. Desko is the hottest set tbh
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i love my OG desko set, so cannot be opposed to a BSP version
But seriously, I agree desko is a sweet set, to try the OG would be amazing
Post by: futurecrime on Tue, 06 March 2018, 19:34:28
Post by: Hammer on Mon, 12 March 2018, 01:45:19
I chose Parthenon as the Winkey, wish you like it.
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 12 March 2018, 01:47:51
Hey guys, we've worked out the Tulip GK Set at last, and here is the render :DLove it!!! The Greek sublegends are a great addition. Can't wait for the buy!
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Post by: Hammer on Mon, 12 March 2018, 16:26:44
So let's vote on that.
- ANSI DE
- ANSI US
- ANSI DE-US
Post by: Nafs_asp on Mon, 12 March 2018, 16:35:03
Post by: Blackhawk on Mon, 12 March 2018, 16:38:12
Post by: Hako on Mon, 12 March 2018, 16:50:06
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:03:05
I created three kinds of ANSI APL Layouts but It's difficult to make a decision.
So let's vote on that.
- ANSI DE
- ANSI US
- ANSI DE-US
I would vote for ANSI US with icon mods.
But if that choice is not given, then ANSI-DE-US.
Post by: futurecrime on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:12:05
Post by: oatmicro on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:24:10
Post by: Cavemann6 on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:59:45
Post by: poolside on Mon, 12 March 2018, 18:03:18
Post by: Remsky on Mon, 12 March 2018, 19:17:54
ANSI US+1
Post by: zekkin on Mon, 12 March 2018, 19:23:43
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 12 March 2018, 20:45:02
I created three kinds of ANSI APL Layouts but It's difficult to make a decision.
So let's vote on that.
- ANSI DE
- ANSI US
- ANSI DE-US
I would vote for ANSI US with icon mods.
But if that choice is not given, then ANSI-DE-US.
Second this
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Mon, 12 March 2018, 22:20:23
Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 13 March 2018, 00:00:29
Anything but icon mods. ughhh+1 prefer text + icons instead of just icon mods
Post by: nastrovje on Tue, 13 March 2018, 00:02:32
If there is any way to make that version too, besides the US version most people want here, please let me know Hammer :)
I would buy a couple sets myself if necessary. What is the MOQ for also running the german set?
e/ If the german set is possible, the key above Enter would need to get changed. This R2 key should be there instead to truly be ansi-de
(https://i.imgur.com/mRA1UEB.jpg)
the "\"-backslash sits already in the numrow, pressing "ctrl+alt+?"
"|" normally sits on the "><"-key next to "Y", which goes missing with ansi in exchange for a larger Shift. "><|" gets remapped to another random key usually.
"#" and especially " ' " are really missing though and therefore take the place
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 13 March 2018, 01:24:53
I'd die for the ANSI-DE set. Keep the original original.Appreciate it mister
If there is any way to make that version too, besides the US version most people want here, please let me know Hammer :)
I would buy a couple sets myself if necessary. What is the MOQ for also running the german set?
e/ If the german set is possible, the key above Enter would need to get changed. This R2 key should be there instead to truly be ansi-de
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mRA1UEB.jpg)
the "\"-backslash sits already in the numrow, pressing "ctrl+alt+?"
"|" normally sits on the "><"-key next to "Y", which goes missing with ansi in exchange for a larger Shift. "><|" gets remapped to another random key usually.
"#" and especially " ' " are really missing though and therefore take the place
Post by: tunguyen on Tue, 13 March 2018, 01:33:19
It's so original and way cooler.
Hopefully I can get one :)
Pls ansi-de
Post by: Zackfoo on Tue, 13 March 2018, 01:59:28
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Post by: wodan on Tue, 13 March 2018, 02:41:43
Is BSP suddenly making them again?
Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.
I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.
Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO
Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.
Post by: hansichen on Tue, 13 March 2018, 02:50:32
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 13 March 2018, 03:04:40
Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?
Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.
I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.
Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO
Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.
As far as I'm aware, BSP has always used GMK spacebars.
And Hammer has proven themselves to be legit in the past, but I agree a healthy amount of skepticism should be taken going into this GB. I heard from someone that these will be made on IMSTO's tooling that they purchased, but I don't think that that has any base in reality.
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 13 March 2018, 03:31:50
Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?
Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.
I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.
Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO
Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.
Yes spacebars come from GMK like Puddsy said.Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?
Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.
I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.
Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO
Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.
As far as I'm aware, BSP has always used GMK spacebars.
And Hammer has proven themselves to be legit in the past, but I agree a healthy amount of skepticism should be taken going into this GB. I heard from someone that these will be made on IMSTO's tooling that they purchased, but I don't think that that has any base in reality.
Btw Puddsy, your friend said the wrong thing. Imsto used to sell my BSP keycaps on geekhack, like an agent,
I don't use any tools or something of others, I just make them by myself with no one's help.
It has nothing to do with him.
Post by: wodan on Tue, 13 March 2018, 03:38:01
...
It has nothing to do with him.
Okay thanks, good to know.
Post by: superdoedoe on Tue, 13 March 2018, 03:52:39
Anything but icon mods. ughhh+1 prefer text + icons instead of just icon mods
+2 Icon Mods by itself is :mad:
Post by: t8c on Tue, 13 March 2018, 04:11:17
Imsto used to sell my BSP keycaps on geekhack, like an agent,
I don't use any tools or something of others, I just make them by myself with no one's help.
It has nothing to do with him.
Do you have any of his contact information? The last group buy has been a disaster. According to himself Gateron suddenly refused to sell him caps so he has made his own. Have you heard anything about this? Is he lying? We have still not received any keycaps or updates, and it seems highly likely that we will never get our orders.
Post by: nastrovje on Tue, 13 March 2018, 09:33:04
But before it's too late and since he isn't coming back, I suggest all the scammed people from the previous GBs to get together in a new thread and all contact him.
If he isn't refunding the money or doing anything, maybe it is time to contact the police. This sum of money isn't small at all and means serious consequences. The only way to do something about it is together though.
Post by: t8c on Tue, 13 March 2018, 11:24:47
Let's not make this thread into an IMSTO-complain-thread.Except we have zero contact information, only an email address to which he ignores emails and imsto.cn. We can't post on kbdlab or chinese sites due to language barriers. Making Hammer aware of the situation is one of few alternatives left.
But before it's too late and since he isn't coming back, I suggest all the scammed people from the previous GBs to get together in a new thread and all contact him.
If he isn't refunding the money or doing anything, maybe it is time to contact the police. This sum of money isn't small at all and means serious consequences. The only way to do something about it is together though.
The thread idea has already been tried in a previous case. The thread regarding Ivan's disappearance did not yield results - he did not respond.
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 13 March 2018, 11:51:27
I haven't been in contact with him for a long time, tbh I don't know what he's doing now. I heard he suffered a lot and I hope he can get back to us soon.Let's not make this thread into an IMSTO-complain-thread.Except we have zero contact information, only an email address to which he ignores emails and imsto.cn. We can't post on kbdlab or chinese sites due to language barriers. Making Hammer aware of the situation is one of few alternatives left.
But before it's too late and since he isn't coming back, I suggest all the scammed people from the previous GBs to get together in a new thread and all contact him.
If he isn't refunding the money or doing anything, maybe it is time to contact the police. This sum of money isn't small at all and means serious consequences. The only way to do something about it is together though.
The thread idea has already been tried in a previous case. The thread regarding Ivan's disappearance did not yield results - he did not respond.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 13 March 2018, 12:08:48
Ah, cool. Thanks for the info.Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?
Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.
I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.
Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO
Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.Yes spacebars come from GMK like Puddsy said.Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?
Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.
I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.
Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO
Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.
As far as I'm aware, BSP has always used GMK spacebars.
And Hammer has proven themselves to be legit in the past, but I agree a healthy amount of skepticism should be taken going into this GB. I heard from someone that these will be made on IMSTO's tooling that they purchased, but I don't think that that has any base in reality.
Btw Puddsy, your friend said the wrong thing. Imsto used to sell my BSP keycaps on geekhack, like an agent,
I don't use any tools or something of others, I just make them by myself with no one's help.
It has nothing to do with him.
Post by: shekki on Tue, 13 March 2018, 12:53:17
Anything but icon mods. ughhh+1 prefer text + icons instead of just icon mods
+2 Icon Mods by itself is :mad:
+1 another vote for icon + text ;D
Post by: dblack on Tue, 13 March 2018, 12:54:15
That's good to hearWhere are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?
Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.
I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.
Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO
Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.Yes spacebars come from GMK like Puddsy said.Where are we getting the space bar?
Is BSP suddenly making them again?
Before you guys get overexcited, if this is the successor of previous IMSTO GBs then please remember IMSTO has bailed on his last GB and repeatedly lied about shipping and completion. To me, he is a SCAMMER and it's a very bad idea to refer to IMSTO to gain any trust here. It throws a very bad light on this project if you think referring to IMSTO is a good idea.
I am as excited as everyone else about these keycaps but I already ordered and paid half of what's offered here 2 years ago.
Sorry for the downer but I think it is very important to not let people like IMSTO get away with a good name after something like this. If anyone here is in touch with IMSTO, please remind him of my open order from April 2016:
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: Russian
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: German
PBT White/Beige set ROUND 4 Order Started
Item# white/beige round4 , Layout: DESKO
Those who know me will understand I don't give a **** about the money I lost here. This is something personal for me. I will not stop crapping on IMSTOs name until this is made right.
As far as I'm aware, BSP has always used GMK spacebars.
And Hammer has proven themselves to be legit in the past, but I agree a healthy amount of skepticism should be taken going into this GB. I heard from someone that these will be made on IMSTO's tooling that they purchased, but I don't think that that has any base in reality.
Btw Puddsy, your friend said the wrong thing. Imsto used to sell my BSP keycaps on geekhack, like an agent,
I don't use any tools or something of others, I just make them by myself with no one's help.
It has nothing to do with him.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 13 March 2018, 13:01:38
Post by: rainb1ood on Tue, 13 March 2018, 13:04:28
Post by: apejonk on Wed, 14 March 2018, 01:57:37
Post by: Mahm on Wed, 14 March 2018, 18:04:37
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Wed, 14 March 2018, 18:06:53
Post by: revenantjay on Wed, 14 March 2018, 18:16:00
Post by: The_judge_168 on Wed, 14 March 2018, 18:39:47
Post by: Hammer on Thu, 15 March 2018, 11:45:28
UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits'; ;)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 15 March 2018, 12:14:45
Only for BSP buyers.
UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits'; ;)
cute
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 15 March 2018, 12:15:05
Only for BSP buyers.
UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits'; ;)
Yes! These are awesome.
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Thu, 15 March 2018, 12:19:28
Only for BSP buyers.
UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits'; ;)
cute
nice! ;)
Post by: dblack on Thu, 15 March 2018, 16:56:14
Only for BSP buyers.
UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits'; ;)
wow those look great! also, are there going to be multiple versions or is tulip what youre going with? i havent read every message in the thread but i saw a few people mention desko, if something like desko were to be a possibility i would be very excited :)
however im buying set either way lol
Post by: Cavemann6 on Thu, 15 March 2018, 18:10:41
Only for BSP buyers.
UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits'; ;)
Naisss :thumb:
Post by: flyingpike on Thu, 15 March 2018, 22:11:09
Post by: pkzheng on Thu, 15 March 2018, 22:19:37
Post by: sth on Thu, 15 March 2018, 22:35:17
Only for BSP buyers.
UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Dr.Click kits'; ;)
omgosh please let me get one of those outside the pbt gb :O
Post by: Hammer on Thu, 15 March 2018, 23:09:31
UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Icon Mods'; ;)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 15 March 2018, 23:34:14
For the people who loves icon mods, this might be a good news.
UPDATE Mar 16#added items='Icon Mods'; ;)
down arrow caps only
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 16 March 2018, 00:34:42
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 16 March 2018, 00:35:26
Is there GB up already? Couldn't find the thread =(
not yet
Post by: P1kas on Tue, 20 March 2018, 11:54:47
Post by: AdrianMan on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:02:59
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:07:47
I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?There's ANSI ones out there in the market too. Sherryton from Oco sold a bunch of new old stock and he might even still have some. Just an FYI, not a critique to your suggestion.
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Post by: Hammer on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:16:29
I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?So why do you need Hammer dude. :(
Post by: zekkin on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:18:07
I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 March 2018, 14:47:39
I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
BSP feels nicer tho
Post by: futurecrime on Tue, 20 March 2018, 14:59:11
I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
BSP feels nicer tho
Right so I've not laid fingers on BSP but my understanding was that the legends are sharper and the caps feel nicer (and are maybe thicker?) than enjoyPBT. Is that about right?
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 20 March 2018, 15:35:04
I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
BSP feels nicer tho
Right so I've not laid fingers on BSP but my understanding was that the legends are sharper and the caps feel nicer (and are maybe thicker?) than enjoyPBT. Is that about right?
Yes, the dyesubbing is the best and the caps aren't as gritty as other PBTs are. They are a little less gritty than new GMK. Thickness should be about the same
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 20 March 2018, 15:46:12
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Tue, 20 March 2018, 15:52:27
I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
BSP feels nicer tho
Right so I've not laid fingers on BSP but my understanding was that the legends are sharper and the caps feel nicer (and are maybe thicker?) than enjoyPBT. Is that about right?
Yes, definitely nicer. Have both epbt and BSP marching beige sets and the BSP is noticeably better
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 20 March 2018, 15:56:37
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Post by: dubious on Tue, 20 March 2018, 16:09:52
Post by: Rob27shred on Tue, 20 March 2018, 16:20:40
I'm also hoping that their manufacturing process is better than ePBT. I've not had much luck recently with ePBT/Gateron caps. Lots of shrinkage leading to banana-shaped modifiers that will only work with costar stabilizers and VERY tightly fitting caps. Like, "scared you're going to rip your switches apart" tight
That sucks to hear, where did you get those sets from? I've gotten 4 sets of ePBT caps from KBDfans & none of them have the warping issues on spacebars or modifier keys, I use them across a bunch of different boards without issue. Not sure if I'm extremely lucky, KBDfans has real good ePBT sets, or if that is just the exception & not the rule with ePBT sets, but you are not the first person I've heard of having this issue with ePBT or Gateron sets. With my personal experience with ePBT though, I'm leaning more to that being the exception rather than the rule.
I've heard of people using a heat gun to get bows out of longer PBT caps though, might be worth looking into if you haven't returned the sets. The stems being tight is something that my sets do have though, I believe it's because they are made for Gateron switches which have a ever so slightly smaller stem than most other MX switches. Although I don't find them to be so tight it worries me removing them even on Cherry switches. I'm all for a higher quality product, hence my interests in this GB, but IME ePBT is pretty good as it stands. I'm expecting better dye-subbing with these BSP sets but that's about it TBH.
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Tue, 20 March 2018, 16:21:25
BSP still has a banana right long 2.75u shift, but it fits fine on my stabs/switches.
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Yeah banana mods are a pain.. I’ve popped out many a stab trying to sit them flat (forgetting the bend) :/
Trick is to only press keycap on in the very centre where the switch is - DON’T start pressing the sides of the keycap (that’s how you pop out your stab)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 March 2018, 17:04:30
I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
BSP feels nicer tho
Right so I've not laid fingers on BSP but my understanding was that the legends are sharper and the caps feel nicer (and are maybe thicker?) than enjoyPBT. Is that about right?
Yes, the dyesubbing is the best and the caps aren't as gritty as other PBTs are. They are a little less gritty than new GMK. Thickness should be about the same
the dyesubbing can still be **** if it's done poorly, that's not dependant on who makes the cap
BSP only makes the blanks, hammer does the dyesubbing
Post by: P1kas on Tue, 20 March 2018, 17:05:36
I was gonna say, IMSTO isn't doing the dyesubbing this time around. We don't really know how sharp these will turn out, unless someone has seen the results in person
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 20 March 2018, 17:31:44
^
I was gonna say, IMSTO isn't doing the dyesubbing this time around. We don't really know how sharp these will turn out, unless someone has seen the results in person
I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
BSP feels nicer tho
Right so I've not laid fingers on BSP but my understanding was that the legends are sharper and the caps feel nicer (and are maybe thicker?) than enjoyPBT. Is that about right?
Yes, the dyesubbing is the best and the caps aren't as gritty as other PBTs are. They are a little less gritty than new GMK. Thickness should be about the same
the dyesubbing can still be **** if it's done poorly, that's not dependant on who makes the cap
BSP only makes the blanks, hammer does the dyesubbing
It was always Hammer doing the dyesubbing if I'm not mistaken
Post by: P1kas on Tue, 20 March 2018, 17:50:22
Super excited for these!
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 March 2018, 17:58:55
^
I was gonna say, IMSTO isn't doing the dyesubbing this time around. We don't really know how sharp these will turn out, unless someone has seen the results in personI'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
BSP feels nicer tho
Right so I've not laid fingers on BSP but my understanding was that the legends are sharper and the caps feel nicer (and are maybe thicker?) than enjoyPBT. Is that about right?
Yes, the dyesubbing is the best and the caps aren't as gritty as other PBTs are. They are a little less gritty than new GMK. Thickness should be about the same
the dyesubbing can still be **** if it's done poorly, that's not dependant on who makes the cap
BSP only makes the blanks, hammer does the dyesubbing
It was always Hammer doing the dyesubbing if I'm not mistaken
correct
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 20 March 2018, 18:04:53
^
I was gonna say, IMSTO isn't doing the dyesubbing this time around. We don't really know how sharp these will turn out, unless someone has seen the results in personI'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
BSP feels nicer tho
Right so I've not laid fingers on BSP but my understanding was that the legends are sharper and the caps feel nicer (and are maybe thicker?) than enjoyPBT. Is that about right?
Yes, the dyesubbing is the best and the caps aren't as gritty as other PBTs are. They are a little less gritty than new GMK. Thickness should be about the same
the dyesubbing can still be **** if it's done poorly, that's not dependant on who makes the cap
BSP only makes the blanks, hammer does the dyesubbing
It was always Hammer doing the dyesubbing if I'm not mistaken
correct
Quote
It took me a lot of time to copy that from Cherry's original Arabic keycaps, I'll let the similarity reach 95%.
I'm also very happy that the first sentence of this IC indicates his dedication to accuracy. I have high expectations ;D
Post by: futurecrime on Tue, 20 March 2018, 19:43:27
^
I was gonna say, IMSTO isn't doing the dyesubbing this time around. We don't really know how sharp these will turn out, unless someone has seen the results in personI'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
BSP feels nicer tho
Right so I've not laid fingers on BSP but my understanding was that the legends are sharper and the caps feel nicer (and are maybe thicker?) than enjoyPBT. Is that about right?
Yes, the dyesubbing is the best and the caps aren't as gritty as other PBTs are. They are a little less gritty than new GMK. Thickness should be about the same
the dyesubbing can still be **** if it's done poorly, that's not dependant on who makes the cap
BSP only makes the blanks, hammer does the dyesubbing
It was always Hammer doing the dyesubbing if I'm not mistaken
correctQuoteIt took me a lot of time to copy that from Cherry's original Arabic keycaps, I'll let the similarity reach 95%.
I'm also very happy that the first sentence of this IC indicates his dedication to accuracy. I have high expectations ;D
Ok good stuff. Good info. Looking forward to this even more now.
Post by: Rob27shred on Tue, 20 March 2018, 21:09:12
^
I was gonna say, IMSTO isn't doing the dyesubbing this time around. We don't really know how sharp these will turn out, unless someone has seen the results in personI'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
BSP feels nicer tho
Right so I've not laid fingers on BSP but my understanding was that the legends are sharper and the caps feel nicer (and are maybe thicker?) than enjoyPBT. Is that about right?
Yes, the dyesubbing is the best and the caps aren't as gritty as other PBTs are. They are a little less gritty than new GMK. Thickness should be about the same
the dyesubbing can still be **** if it's done poorly, that's not dependant on who makes the cap
BSP only makes the blanks, hammer does the dyesubbing
It was always Hammer doing the dyesubbing if I'm not mistaken
correct
Hammer doing the dye-subbing is the TLDR version of why I'm wanting in on this GB from my previous post. Not expecting a huge jump quality wise from ePBT to BSP as far as the keys themselves go. PBT is just notoriously hard to keep from warping when cooling, thankfully I have never ran into the banana spacebar/shifts, but it could happen with any run of PBT sets it seems. So I'm just looking for Hammer's high quality dye-subbing out of these sets more than anything else TBH. Hopefully the banana issue doesn't happen with these though.
Post by: Geek Maker on Wed, 21 March 2018, 00:40:12
^
I was gonna say, IMSTO isn't doing the dyesubbing this time around. We don't really know how sharp these will turn out, unless someone has seen the results in personI'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
BSP feels nicer tho
Right so I've not laid fingers on BSP but my understanding was that the legends are sharper and the caps feel nicer (and are maybe thicker?) than enjoyPBT. Is that about right?
Yes, the dyesubbing is the best and the caps aren't as gritty as other PBTs are. They are a little less gritty than new GMK. Thickness should be about the same
the dyesubbing can still be **** if it's done poorly, that's not dependant on who makes the cap
BSP only makes the blanks, hammer does the dyesubbing
It was always Hammer doing the dyesubbing if I'm not mistaken
correct
Hammer doing the dye-subbing is the TLDR version of why I'm wanting in on this GB from my previous post. Not expecting a huge jump quality wise from ePBT to BSP as far as the keys themselves go. PBT is just notoriously hard to keep from warping when cooling, thankfully I have never ran into the banana spacebar/shifts, but it could happen with any run of PBT sets it seems. So I'm just looking for Hammer's high quality dye-subbing out of these sets more than anything else TBH. Hopefully the banana issue doesn't happen with these though.
As I know, there are some crooked stems in key in R1 BSP GB. The issue have been far improved in the R2 BSP GB and R3.
Post by: AdrianMan on Wed, 21 March 2018, 02:16:33
Post by: AdrianMan on Wed, 21 March 2018, 02:22:18
I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?There's ANSI ones out there in the market too. Sherryton from Oco sold a bunch of new old stock and he might even still have some. Just an FYI, not a critique to your suggestion.
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Thank you, will search for it !
Post by: kevinzavier on Thu, 22 March 2018, 22:47:41
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 23 March 2018, 00:15:54
What's the retro winkey set?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94158.msg2566242#msg2566242
looks like there was an attachment here at some point
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Mon, 02 April 2018, 19:52:55
What's the retro winkey set?
Row5 1u win 95/98 logo keys. So like this
(https://i.imgur.com/rSAUUIS.png)
or like this
(https://i.imgur.com/lKA4KhN.png)
Post by: P1kas on Mon, 02 April 2018, 21:32:15
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 02 April 2018, 21:33:57
Wait, so the APL set doesn't include a row5 win key and it's a separate kit? Even though it is shown in the render?
it will include winkeys
the retro set has a different legend
Post by: P1kas on Mon, 02 April 2018, 22:30:58
Post by: Remsky on Sun, 08 April 2018, 16:58:04
Post by: rioc on Tue, 10 April 2018, 00:58:52
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 10 April 2018, 10:36:25
in case none of you saw
Post by: Blackhawk on Tue, 10 April 2018, 10:40:56
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 10 April 2018, 10:44:45
Why massdrop :-\
Hammer and Massdrop have been working together for a long time, I figured that this would be the case. Massdrop has been much better recently than in the past.
Post by: Remsky on Tue, 10 April 2018, 10:51:55
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 10 April 2018, 12:34:19
Why massdrop :-\Don't worry, the price will not rise ;)
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 10 April 2018, 12:39:37
Post by: futurecrime on Tue, 10 April 2018, 12:51:02
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 10 April 2018, 12:54:30
Shame this is going through assdrop
Well, ****.They really changed a lot and get better, givem a chance :)
Post by: futurecrime on Tue, 10 April 2018, 13:12:15
Shame this is going through assdropWell, ****.They really changed a lot and get better, givem a chance :)
Still gonna buy, don't worry!
Post by: Hammer on Tue, 10 April 2018, 13:19:05
At least they provide a guarantee for the trade, who knows if I am the next Ivan? :blank:Shame this is going through assdropWell, ****.They really changed a lot and get better, givem a chance :)
Still gonna buy, don't worry!
People always make mistakes, Let's give them a chance.
Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 10 April 2018, 13:26:00
Post by: zekkin on Tue, 10 April 2018, 13:27:56
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Tue, 10 April 2018, 14:03:39
At least they provide a guarantee for the trade, who knows if I am the next Ivan? :blank:Shame this is going through assdropWell, ****.They really changed a lot and get better, givem a chance :)
Still gonna buy, don't worry!
People always make mistakes, Let's give them a chance.
I hope keyset not too expensive if it happens on Massdrop. Interested in Tulip and APL. If it's too expensive I might be only getting one :(
Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 10 April 2018, 14:04:39
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 10 April 2018, 14:10:26
one of those "good guy" vendors.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 10 April 2018, 14:42:00
At least they provide a guarantee for the trade, who knows if I am the next Ivan? :blank:Shame this is going through assdropWell, ****.They really changed a lot and get better, givem a chance :)
Still gonna buy, don't worry!
People always make mistakes, Let's give them a chance.
i'm in no matter what :D
Post by: Kafka on Tue, 10 April 2018, 15:20:17
love me some massdrop.
one of those "good guy" vendors.
plz
Post by: t8c on Tue, 10 April 2018, 15:23:08
Also would love to buy the cherry star from the arabic kit.
Post by: Blaise170 on Tue, 10 April 2018, 15:25:12
love me some massdrop.
one of those "good guy" vendors.
plz
Massdrop isn't perfect by any stretch but they are certainly far better than many retailers out there.
Post by: runsamok on Tue, 10 April 2018, 15:41:21
plz
Massdrop isn't perfect by any stretch but they are certainly far better than many retailers out there.
Massdrop is one of the worst retailers I've ever used, but I'm in Canada. They routinely goof up shipments, send things with incorrect labels causing overcharging at Customs & a whole host of other shipping & logistics issues. If I could have gotten my SA Oblivion anywhere else, I gladly would have, but unfortunately they're the 800-lb gorilla in the mech keyboard group buy community.
Post by: nzhoward on Tue, 10 April 2018, 15:47:25
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 10 April 2018, 16:46:30
(https://i.imgur.com/O86Ol36.jpg)
late to the party.. would love to see proper hangul dyesubs
Post by: Origami_Rabbit on Wed, 11 April 2018, 02:48:40
(https://upload-images.jianshu.io/upload_images/5495363-3ed5ba75948f78f0.jpg?imageMogr2/auto-orient/strip%7CimageView2/2/w/700)
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 11 April 2018, 05:46:00
I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
BSP feels nicer tho
Right so I've not laid fingers on BSP but my understanding was that the legends are sharper and the caps feel nicer (and are maybe thicker?) than enjoyPBT. Is that about right?
Yes, the dyesubbing is the best and the caps aren't as gritty as other PBTs are. They are a little less gritty than new GMK. Thickness should be about the same
Don't forget R5 mods, I don't think enjoyPBT does them?
Post by: H3NT4I on Wed, 11 April 2018, 08:26:03
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 11 April 2018, 11:32:14
I'm interested in a set as well, is there going to be a plain ANSI US one, without extra lettering om the keycaps? Something similar to the simple EnjoyPBT colored ones blue/purple/green ones?
Just buy EnjoyPBT if that's what you're looking for. There's more compatibility with them anyway.
BSP feels nicer tho
Right so I've not laid fingers on BSP but my understanding was that the legends are sharper and the caps feel nicer (and are maybe thicker?) than enjoyPBT. Is that about right?
Yes, the dyesubbing is the best and the caps aren't as gritty as other PBTs are. They are a little less gritty than new GMK. Thickness should be about the same
Don't forget R5 mods, I don't think enjoyPBT does them?
correct
Post by: bmilcs on Thu, 12 April 2018, 15:43:21
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 12 April 2018, 17:29:12
Shame this is going through assdrop
Eh... I like Massdrop, have mostly good experiences with them. Yes occasionally they **** up (sometimes badly) but if you get fed up with it, they do give you all your money back...
Post by: Hammer on Fri, 13 April 2018, 16:26:00
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set
:thumb:
This drop is set to launch on Monday, April 17th @ 6:00 am PT.
Post by: o3okevin on Fri, 13 April 2018, 16:33:30
Link to Massdrop GROUPBUY:Monday is April 16, is it the 17th or 16th?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set
:thumb:
This drop is set to launch on Monday, April 17th @ 6:00 am PT.
Post by: Hammer on Fri, 13 April 2018, 16:35:21
I guess it's 16th.Link to Massdrop GROUPBUY:Monday is April 16, is it the 17th or 16th?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set
:thumb:
This drop is set to launch on Monday, April 17th @ 6:00 am PT.
;)
Post by: o3okevin on Fri, 13 April 2018, 16:35:57
:thumb: can't waitI guess it's 16th.Link to Massdrop GROUPBUY:Monday is April 16, is it the 17th or 16th?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set
:thumb:
This drop is set to launch on Monday, April 17th @ 6:00 am PT.
;)
Post by: The_judge_168 on Fri, 13 April 2018, 20:29:19
Post by: donut_sauce on Fri, 13 April 2018, 20:59:36
Post by: Cavemann6 on Sun, 15 April 2018, 02:49:46
Link to Massdrop GROUPBUY:
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set
:thumb:
This drop is set to launch on Monday, April 17th @ 6:00 am PT.
:thumb:
Post by: t8c on Sun, 15 April 2018, 03:31:24
Am I understanding right that OG ANSI is icon mod only?I hope that the icon mods are addon only. Would put OG tulip ansi buyers in a bad spot.
Post by: RSC on Sun, 15 April 2018, 04:56:18
Post by: hansichen on Sun, 15 April 2018, 05:57:05
Post by: zekkin on Sun, 15 April 2018, 07:12:36
Post by: avid on Sun, 15 April 2018, 09:11:37
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 15 April 2018, 09:14:29
What is the best ways/sets to get extra compatability that is missing? epbt? gmk? else?GMK 9009, GMK Hadapter/Hadditionals and Enjoypbt or Modern Beige in black, sir.
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Post by: donut_sauce on Sun, 15 April 2018, 09:33:33
I agree, it’s seems odd that all the other sets would be text mods but this one is icon mod. But that’s what is shown on the renders/layouts.Am I understanding right that OG ANSI is icon mod only?I hope that the icon mods are addon only. Would put OG tulip ansi buyers in a bad spot.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 15 April 2018, 09:55:38
What is the best ways/sets to get extra compatability that is missing? epbt? gmk? else?GMK 9009, GMK Hadapter/Hadditionals and Enjoypbt or Modern Beige in black, sir.
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CMYK/W and RGBK/W as well
ceresia and magenta mods also work
personally, i'm planning on using tulip OG with CMYK on a pink TGR alice
Post by: Hammer on Mon, 16 April 2018, 05:14:37
What is the best ways/sets to get extra compatability that is missing? epbt? gmk? else?GMK I think, they have R5 cherry profile molds.
Post by: rioc on Mon, 16 April 2018, 06:02:56
What is the best ways/sets to get extra compatability that is missing? epbt? gmk? else?GMK I think, they have R5 cherry profile molds.
Does BSP feel more like ABS or PBT? (I'm just interested in making it ISO Enter and split left shift compatible, in case I need it)
Post by: nzhoward on Mon, 16 April 2018, 07:13:25
What is the best ways/sets to get extra compatability that is missing? epbt? gmk? else?GMK I think, they have R5 cherry profile molds.
Does BSP feel more like ABS or PBT? (I'm just interested in making it ISO Enter and split left shift compatible, in case I need it)
Well BSP uses the same tooling as OG cherry dyesubs. So it is PBT. not sure how it could feel ABS..
Post by: rioc on Mon, 16 April 2018, 07:15:07
What is the best ways/sets to get extra compatability that is missing? epbt? gmk? else?GMK I think, they have R5 cherry profile molds.
Does BSP feel more like ABS or PBT? (I'm just interested in making it ISO Enter and split left shift compatible, in case I need it)
Well BSP uses the same tooling as OG cherry dyesubs. So it is PBT. not sure how it could feel ABS..
well yeah, I got that, but that doesn't determin the feeling and properties (maybe initial feeling, but idk if it smoothens out over time like abs or keeps the texture like pbt)
Post by: nzhoward on Mon, 16 April 2018, 07:18:22
What is the best ways/sets to get extra compatability that is missing? epbt? gmk? else?GMK I think, they have R5 cherry profile molds.
Does BSP feel more like ABS or PBT? (I'm just interested in making it ISO Enter and split left shift compatible, in case I need it)
Well BSP uses the same tooling as OG cherry dyesubs. So it is PBT. not sure how it could feel ABS..
well yeah, I got that, but that doesn't determin the feeling and properties (maybe initial feeling, but idk if it smoothens out over time like abs or keeps the texture like pbt)
They dont shine like ABS. These are as close to OG cherry as you can get.
Post by: nastrovje on Mon, 16 April 2018, 07:51:10
What is the best ways/sets to get extra compatability that is missing? epbt? gmk? else?GMK I think, they have R5 cherry profile molds.
Does BSP feel more like ABS or PBT? (I'm just interested in making it ISO Enter and split left shift compatible, in case I need it)
Well BSP uses the same tooling as OG cherry dyesubs. So it is PBT. not sure how it could feel ABS..
well yeah, I got that, but that doesn't determin the feeling and properties (maybe initial feeling, but idk if it smoothens out over time like abs or keeps the texture like pbt)
PBT is harder and more brittle. The caps keep the texture longer, feel a bit colder and your fingers don't stick to it as much as with abs.
They also sound differently of course, which is just a question of preference. I like deep thocks, so the thicker the better for me.
These Bsp sets are a tiny bit thicker than epbt for example.
Regarding texture, OG Cherry Sets and BSP are produced pretty smooth from the start.
Compared to epbt for example you definitely feel a difference.
epbt is still great though and I use a set in rotation all the time.
There are people who prefer the epbt texture, people who will only ever type on topre texture and people who prefer the smooth textures. There are even confused people who love shine on abs :))
So If I were you, I'd just order a set and try it out and find your type. Not much you can do wrong here. :thumb:
e/ For compatibility purposes, just go with whatever matches the color the best tbh. Having a different texture on a board interestingly doesn't annoy me
Post by: rioc on Mon, 16 April 2018, 08:23:38
What is the best ways/sets to get extra compatability that is missing? epbt? gmk? else?GMK I think, they have R5 cherry profile molds.
Does BSP feel more like ABS or PBT? (I'm just interested in making it ISO Enter and split left shift compatible, in case I need it)
Well BSP uses the same tooling as OG cherry dyesubs. So it is PBT. not sure how it could feel ABS..
well yeah, I got that, but that doesn't determin the feeling and properties (maybe initial feeling, but idk if it smoothens out over time like abs or keeps the texture like pbt)
PBT is harder and more brittle. The caps keep the texture longer, feel a bit colder and your fingers don't stick to it as much as with abs.
They also sound differently of course, which is just a question of preference. I like deep thocks, so the thicker the better for me.
These Bsp sets are a tiny bit thicker than epbt for example.
Regarding texture, OG Cherry Sets and BSP are produced pretty smooth from the start.
Compared to epbt for example you definitely feel a difference.
epbt is still great though and I use a set in rotation all the time.
There are people who prefer the epbt texture, people who will only ever type on topre texture and people who prefer the smooth textures. There are even confused people who love shine on abs :))
So If I were you, I'd just order a set and try it out and find your type. Not much you can do wrong here. :thumb:
e/ For compatibility purposes, just go with whatever matches the color the best tbh. Having a different texture on a board interestingly doesn't annoy me
oh man... I must still be hungover from the weekend... I kept thinking these were made out of a different plastic called BSP... not realizing they're our standard PBT material... oh well, I'm in
Post by: nzhoward on Mon, 16 April 2018, 10:22:27
What is the best ways/sets to get extra compatability that is missing? epbt? gmk? else?GMK I think, they have R5 cherry profile molds.
Does BSP feel more like ABS or PBT? (I'm just interested in making it ISO Enter and split left shift compatible, in case I need it)
Well BSP uses the same tooling as OG cherry dyesubs. So it is PBT. not sure how it could feel ABS..
well yeah, I got that, but that doesn't determin the feeling and properties (maybe initial feeling, but idk if it smoothens out over time like abs or keeps the texture like pbt)
PBT is harder and more brittle. The caps keep the texture longer, feel a bit colder and your fingers don't stick to it as much as with abs.
They also sound differently of course, which is just a question of preference. I like deep thocks, so the thicker the better for me.
These Bsp sets are a tiny bit thicker than epbt for example.
Regarding texture, OG Cherry Sets and BSP are produced pretty smooth from the start.
Compared to epbt for example you definitely feel a difference.
epbt is still great though and I use a set in rotation all the time.
There are people who prefer the epbt texture, people who will only ever type on topre texture and people who prefer the smooth textures. There are even confused people who love shine on abs :))
So If I were you, I'd just order a set and try it out and find your type. Not much you can do wrong here. :thumb:
e/ For compatibility purposes, just go with whatever matches the color the best tbh. Having a different texture on a board interestingly doesn't annoy me
oh man... I must still be hungover from the weekend... I kept thinking these were made out of a different plastic called BSP... not realizing they're our standard PBT material... oh well, I'm in
lolol i was quite confused by how you phrased your questions. BSP is the name of the company who manufactures the caps. They purchased the Cherry original PBT tooling back when Cherry sold everything. :thumb: Can't go wrong with BSP
Post by: rioc on Mon, 16 April 2018, 10:42:01
oh man... I must still be hungover from the weekend... I kept thinking these were made out of a different plastic called BSP... not realizing they're our standard PBT material... oh well, I'm inlolol i was quite confused by how you phrased your questions. BSP is the name of the company who manufactures the caps. They purchased the Cherry original PBT tooling back when Cherry sold everything. :thumb: Can't go wrong with BSP
yeah, I finally got it in the end... I was googling BSP Plastic compound without getting a usable result until I realised that's the company name :))
Post by: dubious on Mon, 16 April 2018, 11:33:31
also looks like the price got mass-upped :eek:
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 16 April 2018, 18:04:53
BGB buy period is only one week? Damn, I was hoping to get this set
also looks like the price got mass-upped :eek:
he said in slack that it had to go up about $10 from previous GBs, and then massdrop fees got added on top of that
so it's many
Post by: Hammer on Mon, 16 April 2018, 18:33:40
They didn't add puddsy.BGB buy period is only one week? Damn, I was hoping to get this set
also looks like the price got mass-upped :eek:
he said in slack that it had to go up about $10 from previous GBs, and then massdrop fees got added on top of that
so it's many
Peacock sold $159 in the past and Arabic sells $169.
Just add 10 dollars in this drop.
Tulip has lots of extra key, that make it more expensive, but I think it's worth to pay more 25 usd for the extra 6 side printed keys.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 16 April 2018, 19:17:50
They didn't add puddsy.BGB buy period is only one week? Damn, I was hoping to get this set
also looks like the price got mass-upped :eek:
he said in slack that it had to go up about $10 from previous GBs, and then massdrop fees got added on top of that
so it's many
Peacock sold $159 in the past and Arabic sells $169.
Just add 10 dollars in this drop.
Tulip has lots of extra key, that make it more expensive, but I think it's worth to pay more 25 usd for the extra 6 side printed keys.
ah, that makes a lot more sense, thanks
i guess i misunderstood, sorry
Post by: nastrovje on Tue, 17 April 2018, 03:31:08
...;)
Post by: Hammer on Wed, 18 April 2018, 02:00:08
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 18 April 2018, 12:30:27
I think it's even better than the renders.
i'm tempted to agree
Post by: M on Wed, 18 April 2018, 13:38:08
I think it's even better than the renders.
Might be the lighting , but I wasn't expecting the Cream one to be that bright. I think that's a good thing though imo
Post by: Hammer on Wed, 18 April 2018, 20:15:53
It's becoz of the light this picture can tell Billy. :)I think it's even better than the renders.
Might be the lighting , but I wasn't expecting the Cream one to be that bright. I think that's a good thing though imo
Post by: M on Wed, 18 April 2018, 20:27:50
It's becoz of the light this picture can tell Billy. :)I think it's even better than the renders.
Might be the lighting , but I wasn't expecting the Cream one to be that bright. I think that's a good thing though imo
lol alright thanks
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Thu, 19 April 2018, 14:54:47
What is everyone else getting?
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 19 April 2018, 18:24:15
Getting APL for sure but still deciding between OK and GK Tulip.
What is everyone else getting?
i considered GK, but went with OG since i'm gonna use it on a pink board with cmyk
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 19 April 2018, 19:16:57
Post by: Hammer on Thu, 19 April 2018, 19:49:43
If I get the APL kit, will that help me learn APL?Oh dear we just offer you the tools :D
Post by: Signature on Fri, 20 April 2018, 07:47:14
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-bsp-classic-beige-pbt-dye-subbed-keycap-set
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/hammer-dr-click-resin-artisan-keycap
New thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95163.msg2593083.msg#2593083 (Thanks to SpamRay! :-* )