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Title: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:37:46
GB Now live! >> https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74807.0

You asked for it, we delivered.

Introducing Project Zealios - 62g gold plated springs in an exclusive custom made Purple "MX Clear" stem. No ErgoBrown Gateron bull**** (cough). This is the real deal. Along with the project was a custom made transparent switch bottom housing to maximize LED lighting. Switch will be compatible with 4-pin RGB LEDs (not pictured). The purple stems have the tight stem cross removed from the original MX Clear stems. No more accidental switch breaking! Yay!

(http://puu.sh/jh6Mu/3ac26033a2.png)

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More
(http://puu.sh/gnVP5/6015621d22.jpg)

What's inside the box?
(http://i.imgur.com/0vb4exq.jpg)

To figure out, I will provide one image a day, and people can put the pieces together to figure out the image!

Day 1:
(http://i.imgur.com/Ii1NdIZ.png)

Day 2:
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Day 3:
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Day 4:
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Day 5:
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Day 6:
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Day 7:
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Day 8:
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Day 9:
(http://i.imgur.com/xFPLeu1.png)

Day 10:
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Day 11:
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Day 12:
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Day 13:
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Day 14:
(http://i.imgur.com/5T9RnyM.png)

Day 15:
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Day 16:
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Day 17:
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Title: Re: ?
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:39:04
(http://media0.giphy.com/media/tWrXaAUjD7ujm/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:40:13
#hypetrainisapparentlytooreal
Title: Re: ?
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:41:05
#hype
Title: Re: ?
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:41:30
Flood Zeal with PMs
(http://media.giphy.com/media/DqwBggaKEBGpO/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:44:30
Show Image
(http://media0.giphy.com/media/tWrXaAUjD7ujm/giphy.gif)


(http://media.giphy.com/media/IK3e1E74N7sTC/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:46:54
Show Image
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Show Image
(http://media.giphy.com/media/IK3e1E74N7sTC/giphy.gif)

(http://media.giphy.com/media/ZjqWnrUn3jNcs/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Moralless on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:47:03
You're photo is a bit out of focus
Title: Re: ?
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:48:06
You're photo is a bit out of focus
Your grammar is a bit out of focus.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/VCeVTCWnhNQt2/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:48:51
You're photo is a bit out of focus
Your grammar is a bit out of focus.
Show Image
(http://media.giphy.com/media/VCeVTCWnhNQt2/giphy.gif)

(http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/34/34642be3868ae0dd8db29539c26b4eeb2198e0b2_full.jpg)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:49:15
You're photo is a bit out of focus
Your grammar is a bit out of focus.
Show Image
(http://media.giphy.com/media/VCeVTCWnhNQt2/giphy.gif)


☐ Not REKT ☑ REKT ☑ REKTangle ☑ SHREKT ☑ REKT-it Ralph ☑ Total REKTall ☑ The Lord of the REKT ☑ The Usual SusREKTs ☑ North by NorthREKT ☑ REKT to the Future ☑ Once Upon a Time in the REKT ☑ The Good, the Bad, and the REKT ☑ LawREKT of Arabia ☑ Tyrannosaurus REKT ☑ eREKTile dysfunction
Title: Re: ?
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:52:03
red switch tops?
Title: Re: ?
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:53:04
red switch tops?
(http://media.giphy.com/media/XlfWbwvsqFhFS/giphy.gif)
Who knows.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Thu, 05 March 2015, 15:58:02
red switch tops?
Show Image
(http://media.giphy.com/media/XlfWbwvsqFhFS/giphy.gif)

Who knows.

Zeal knows...
Title: Re: ?
Post by: hking0036 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 16:09:39
check and see if there's a new kitkat flavor out in Japan.

Or Zeal could be pulling a WASD and it's just browns.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Moralless on Thu, 05 March 2015, 16:21:00
You're photo is a bit out of focus
Your grammar is a bit out of focus.
Show Image
(http://media.giphy.com/media/VCeVTCWnhNQt2/giphy.gif)


(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mf4lscIM1P1rbxqza.gif)

...tapatalk autocorrected my yiour to you're for some reason
Title: Re: ?
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 16:23:53
I'm going to guess red gaterons.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 05 March 2015, 16:24:25
I'm going to guess red gaterons.

That's my thought.  Or mini mini Kit Kats.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: hking0036 on Thu, 05 March 2015, 16:24:27
I'm going to guess red gaterons.
That's actually probably a good guess.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 05 March 2015, 17:25:35
I'm going to guess red gaterons.
That was my first guess, but I thought that red switch covers would be more exciting.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: billnye on Thu, 05 March 2015, 17:27:06
uwotm8
Title: Re: ?
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 05 March 2015, 17:35:18
[4:38:12 PM] Zeal PC: no mention
[4:38:12 PM] Zeal PC: of what im gonna do tho pls

(http://media0.giphy.com/media/M6xjibxN0L7YQ/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 05 March 2015, 17:46:41
You're photo is a bit out of focus
Your grammar is a bit out of focus.
Show Image
(http://media.giphy.com/media/VCeVTCWnhNQt2/giphy.gif)


Show Image
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mf4lscIM1P1rbxqza.gif)


...tapatalk autocorrected my yiour to you're for some reason

You tried.  :)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 05 March 2015, 17:49:09
It's a bowl of ice cream with a cherry on top.  MMmmmmmm
Title: Re: ?
Post by: billnye on Thu, 05 March 2015, 17:49:50
cherry
^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Karura on Thu, 05 March 2015, 23:02:31
Custom switch bottoms :)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: tbc on Thu, 05 March 2015, 23:06:14
Custom switch bottoms :)

nekkid switches with no bottoms?
Title: Re: ?
Post by: munch on Thu, 05 March 2015, 23:06:48
ok guys hype's over.
I ran the image through my de-mozaicer application I wrote in 1963 during the Zion War to conquer the ancient dragon thingy from the evil dudes.

(http://i.imgur.com/lvG6kvk.png)

looks like he's making keycaps that look a little bit like this? my app is old and needs an update so you can't be 100% sure.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: byker on Thu, 05 March 2015, 23:10:01
ok guys hype's over.
I ran the image through my de-mozaicer application I wrote in 1963 during the Zion War to conquer the ancient dragon thingy from the evil dudes.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lvG6kvk.png)


looks like he's making keycaps that look a little bit like this? my app is old and needs an update so you can't be 100% sure.


Confirmed. Zeal is K3KC. Lets fund a trip boys.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: naasfu on Thu, 05 March 2015, 23:17:58
(http://i.imgur.com/TP2IOpk.jpg)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: bueller on Thu, 05 March 2015, 23:18:55
ok guys hype's over.
I ran the image through my de-mozaicer application I wrote in 1963 during the Zion War to conquer the ancient dragon thingy from the evil dudes.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lvG6kvk.png)


looks like he's making keycaps that look a little bit like this? my app is old and needs an update so you can't be 100% sure.


Confirmed. Zeal is K3KC. Lets fund a trip boys.

Bake him away toys!
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Moralless on Fri, 06 March 2015, 04:46:19
You're photo is a bit out of focus
Your grammar is a bit out of focus.
Show Image
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Show Image
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...tapatalk autocorrected my yiour to you're for some reason

You tried.  :)

That one was on purpose :p I literally typed 'yiour' on my phone and it got auto-corrected to "you're" instead of "your" for whatever reason.  :confused:

Title: Re: ?
Post by: awhitedev on Mon, 09 March 2015, 17:40:20
When are we going to find out what this is?  ;D
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 09 March 2015, 17:42:46
When are we going to find out what this is?  ;D

Soon™
Title: Re: ?
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 09 March 2015, 17:47:05
When are we going to find out what this is?  ;D

Soon™

Confirmed scam group buy with Zeal stealing all our monies and leaving us with tears, warm, delicious, salty tears.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 09 March 2015, 17:50:53
@nubs (Can't quote for w/e reason)

It very well might leave everyone with warm, delcious, salty tears.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 09 March 2015, 17:53:31
@nubs (Can't quote for w/e reason)

It very well might leave everyone with warm, delcious, salty tears.

Apparently I am the unquotable.  I blame it on the bippity boppity, shippity shoppity of my avatar.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 11 March 2015, 13:53:08
@nubs (Can't quote for w/e reason)

It very well might leave everyone with warm, delcious, salty tears.

Apparently I am the unquotable.  I blame it on the bippity boppity, shippity shoppity of my avatar.
Quote test
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 16 March 2015, 17:06:06
What's in the box?
(http://i.imgur.com/0vb4exq.jpg)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 16 March 2015, 17:22:15
What's in the box?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0vb4exq.jpg)

Red Gatorade switches.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 16 March 2015, 17:26:00
What's in the box?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0vb4exq.jpg)

Red Gatorade switches.

I wouldn't be hyping something as simple as that. ;)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 16 March 2015, 17:34:35
What's in the box?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0vb4exq.jpg)

Red Gatorade switches.

I wouldn't be hyping something as simple as that. ;)
I honestly can't think of anything red, that isn't gatorade switches or switch tops :< when can we expect to see whats in this package?
Title: Re: ?
Post by: awhitedev on Mon, 16 March 2015, 18:06:10
What's in the box?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0vb4exq.jpg)


Something deliciously kit-kat like??   :))
Title: Re: ?
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 16 March 2015, 18:09:44
Well it sure isn't ice cream  ^-^
Title: Re: ?
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 16 March 2015, 18:34:54
It's a Radio Flyer:

(http://www.museumofplay.org/online-collections/images/Z001/Z00119/Z0011931.jpg)


Zeal is rolling out his new wagon delivery system whereupon the package is transported from Canada by Radio Flyer wagon to your destination1


1ZealPC is not responsible for any packages lost or damaged in transit.  ZealPC is also not knowledgeable of any child labor laws that may be violated by this process as all deliveries are being subcontracted out to the lowest bidder.  The lowest bid may or may not be candy.  Any and all children that may participate are doing so on a volunteer basis.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 16 March 2015, 18:59:31
What's in the box?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0vb4exq.jpg)


Its content!
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Karura on Mon, 16 March 2015, 20:05:39
It's a trick question. There is nothing in the box.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 16 March 2015, 20:09:21
The box is really outside itself, and we are all in the box and actually figments of the box's imagination.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 16 March 2015, 20:11:20
Spill the beans Zeal ! X_x
Title: Re: ?
Post by: awhitedev on Mon, 16 March 2015, 20:14:05
The box is really outside itself, and we are all in the box and actually figments of the box's imagination.

[attachimg=2]

Well anyways... I tried to upload a gif but all i got was that... you get the idea  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: ?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 16 March 2015, 20:17:36
Spill the beans Zeal ! X_x

The box is full of beans??
Title: Re: ?
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 16 March 2015, 20:22:11
Spill the beans Zeal ! X_x

The box is full of beans??
Yo, I aint no bean counter
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 16 March 2015, 20:24:44
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/2b/2b6d8a389451debee7dc8ffade49261a90d44c3be21879f109d4cfbbe36a5631.jpg)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 16 March 2015, 20:32:26
Spill the beans Zeal ! X_x

The box is full of beans??
Yo, I aint no bean counter

If each bean was a CC or a BroCap, I would count them!
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Karura on Mon, 16 March 2015, 21:17:55
I'm going to guess that whatever is inside the box will be death to all our wallets.

Not injury, not harm, but death.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: tbc on Mon, 16 March 2015, 21:41:46
it's probably a cat

or a picture of a cat

holy****, karura's avatar is inside the box!
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 16 March 2015, 22:03:14
I hope you guys are good at assembling puzzles.
(http://puu.sh/gDBwx/cb1aa5a197.png)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 16 March 2015, 22:12:08
Day 1:
(http://i.imgur.com/Ii1NdIZ.png)
Title: Re: ?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 16 March 2015, 22:26:23
Ah!  There is a jigsaw puzzle in the box!
Title: Re: ?
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 16 March 2015, 22:27:27
it's probably a cat

or a picture of a cat

holy****, karura's avatar is inside the box!
Ah, but is the cat alive or dead? Or both simultaneously?
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 16 March 2015, 22:35:03
it's probably a cat

or a picture of a cat

holy****, karura's avatar is inside the box!
Ah, but is the cat alive or dead? Or both simultaneously?

The box in the initial post  is actually quite small :))
No way of telling how big it is witout a reference.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 16 March 2015, 22:35:39
Smart 68 keyboard
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 16 March 2015, 22:36:21
100 piece puzzle could take a while, I lose interest quickly
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 16 March 2015, 22:41:46
100 piece puzzle could take a while, I lose interest quickly

Me too.  This is more up my ally

(http://freckledfrog.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Eskimo.jpg)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 16 March 2015, 22:48:39
100 piece puzzle could take a while, I lose interest quickly

Me too.  This is more up my ally

Show Image
(http://freckledfrog.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Eskimo.jpg)


It won't take 100 pieces to figure out. :)

Also need some more time ironing out details...;)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: random_rockets on Mon, 16 March 2015, 23:23:03
Smart 68 keyboard

that would be beautiful
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Karura on Mon, 16 March 2015, 23:32:51
it's probably a cat

or a picture of a cat

holy****, karura's avatar is inside the box!

I am now inside the box.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 16 March 2015, 23:35:55
it's probably a cat

or a picture of a cat

holy****, karura's avatar is inside the box!

I am now inside the box.
So Karura, are you dead or alive in that box? Zeal's Cat...
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: tbc on Mon, 16 March 2015, 23:45:52
it's probably a cat

or a picture of a cat

holy****, karura's avatar is inside the box!

I am now inside the box.
So Karura, are you dead or alive in that box? Zeal's Cat...

he is simultaneously answering and not answering your question
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: FreeCopy on Mon, 16 March 2015, 23:47:43
Maybe colored stab mounts to go with colored switch tops? Is that even a thing yet? Or even possible?
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: billnye on Tue, 17 March 2015, 19:18:45
Zeal best troll NA
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 17 March 2015, 19:22:09
Day 2:
This piece connects to the first piece of the puzzle.

(http://i.imgur.com/AQWjrEu.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 17 March 2015, 19:32:22
(http://i.imgur.com/8UUk7pZ.png)

Looks like an MX or Gateron Clear so far.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 18 March 2015, 12:57:29
Day 3:
Connects to the other 2 pieces.
(http://i.imgur.com/HGQvR1M.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 18 March 2015, 13:18:36
I'm going with Cherry RGB switches in Red.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 18 March 2015, 13:23:18
I'm going with Cherry RGB switches in Red.

I have no interest in Cherry RGB switches.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 18 March 2015, 13:24:00
I'm going with Cherry RGB switches in Red.

I have no interest in Cherry RGB switches.

I have no interest in your games.   >:D

Let's see the goods.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 18 March 2015, 13:24:41
I'm going with Cherry RGB switches in Red.

I have no interest in Cherry RGB switches.

I have no interest in your games.   >:D

Let's see the goods.

hue.

Patience, young grasshopper.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 18 March 2015, 22:53:51
I'm still seeing clear MX or MX compatible switches with a clear or semi-translucent switch top:

(http://i.imgur.com/6fxkKwp.png)

I'm saying my initial thought, Clear Gateron with a semi-translucent switch top like the Blue Gateron in VesperSaint's post. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1685402#msg1685402)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: pichu23 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 12:15:22
2x3x4 rgb leds ? :O
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 19 March 2015, 12:18:53
it's a thing
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 19 March 2015, 13:49:40
Day 4:
(http://i.imgur.com/NgZFCt6.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Dihedral on Thu, 19 March 2015, 13:57:31
A rose from your lover.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: vindaon on Thu, 19 March 2015, 13:57:39
A mouse?
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: trizkut on Thu, 19 March 2015, 13:58:10
(http://i.imgur.com/12WPvIs.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 19 March 2015, 14:06:00
(http://i.imgur.com/Cm3Ob2c.jpg)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 19 March 2015, 14:10:44
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Cm3Ob2c.jpg)


Would I really be making a troll thread for something I already sell? :(
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 19 March 2015, 14:13:36
Would I really be making a troll thread for something I already sell? :(

Zeal best troll NA

Survey says? YES
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 19 March 2015, 14:14:53
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Cm3Ob2c.jpg)


Would I really be making a troll thread for something I already sell? :(

hype is hype
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 19 March 2015, 14:21:49
Would I really be making a troll thread for something I already sell? :(

Zeal best troll NA

Survey says? YES

What if I told you I'm the paradigm of honesty?  ;)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 19 March 2015, 14:22:58
What if I told you I'm the paradigm of honesty?

lol
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: vindaon on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:09:55
A mouse?

O nvm just saw Vespersaint's post in the mail thread. It's mos def a switch.

It's red too. It's these, obviously :p (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Gaote_Cherry_MX_clone).
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 20 March 2015, 15:20:20
Day 5:
(http://i.imgur.com/AjLsKGX.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: PunksDead on Fri, 20 March 2015, 15:33:40
Day 5:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AjLsKGX.png)


(http://i.imgur.com/uCDO0If.jpg)

dug around in your source code

*to be fair idk what a source code even is
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: byker on Fri, 20 March 2015, 15:35:36
Day 5:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AjLsKGX.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uCDO0If.jpg)


dug around in your source code


zeal = k3kc?  :o
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 20 March 2015, 16:31:11
Day 5:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AjLsKGX.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uCDO0If.jpg)


dug around in your source code
:-*

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uCDO0If.jpg)


dug around in your source code


zeal = k3kc?  :o
:-X
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: whentheclouds on Fri, 20 March 2015, 16:36:58
is zeal really that sloppy? or is that simply a decoy
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 21 March 2015, 00:30:33
Still just seeing a Gateron Clear with a clear or semi-trans cap:

(http://i.imgur.com/1zHwiYx.jpg)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 21 March 2015, 00:35:03
Still just seeing a Gateron Clear with a clear or semi-trans cap:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1zHwiYx.jpg)

Yeah, that looks like a switch stem. Unless they are Cherry RGB switches with clears. I CRACKED IT!
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 21 March 2015, 00:44:22
Still just seeing a Gateron Clear with a clear or semi-trans cap:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1zHwiYx.jpg)

Yeah, that looks like a switch stem. Unless they are Cherry RGB switches with clears. I CRACKED IT!

I'm going with Cherry RGB switches in Red.

I have no interest in Cherry RGB switches.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 21 March 2015, 00:45:21
Still just seeing a Gateron Clear with a clear or semi-trans cap:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1zHwiYx.jpg)

Yeah, that looks like a switch stem. Unless they are Cherry RGB switches with clears. I CRACKED IT!

I'm going with Cherry RGB switches in Red.

I have no interest in Cherry RGB switches.
Then I guess it has to be Gaterons with clear tops, even though he said he wouldn't be hyping Gateron's like this
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Lastpilot on Sat, 21 March 2015, 00:47:59
Still just seeing a Gateron Clear with a clear or semi-trans cap:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1zHwiYx.jpg)


(http://33.media.tumblr.com/d213c0485f9ad328e9a5c2ee1f457811/tumblr_n3qxxkxaxs1rvnh7zo1_500.gif)

(http://33.media.tumblr.com/66b6892a209f51c957a4c8c2e439c1c1/tumblr_n36v1lubu21slkqb0o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 21 March 2015, 08:53:50
it's probably a cat

or a picture of a cat

holy****, karura's avatar is inside the box!

I am now inside the box.
So Karura, are you dead or alive in that box? Zeal's Cat...

She's both according to the Schroedinger's cat theory I guess...

Day 5:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AjLsKGX.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uCDO0If.jpg)


dug around in your source code

*to be fair idk what a source code even is

That similarity is pretty crazy... Triangle confirmed!  :)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 21 March 2015, 15:48:14
Day 6:
(http://i.imgur.com/iW83JXe.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:00:45
Zeal stickers or business cards?
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: justify on Sat, 21 March 2015, 16:11:18
Im gonna guess Zeal is making his own type of switch. Gateron tops or anything like that isnt worth the hype that this is building, so I think that zeal is trying to make his own.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 06:58:39
Almost looks Alps-ish to me.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 22 March 2015, 08:04:19
It is most definitely a cherry-compatible switch
(http://i.gyazo.com/e22d8eb336f0bde6c140fc90ab306a7c.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Signature on Sun, 22 March 2015, 08:36:10
Kinda looking like a matias switch
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 22 March 2015, 08:54:46
Kinda looking like a matias switch
Thats what I was thinking at first, but if you look at the stem you can see that it has the 90 degree angle that cherry stems have
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 22 March 2015, 09:38:28
It is most definitely a cherry-compatible switch
Show Image
(http://i.gyazo.com/e22d8eb336f0bde6c140fc90ab306a7c.png)


Idk if its just me, but I really can't envision a cherry style switch in that picture so far to be perfectly honest.
I get how people see the lower part as a LED tho, since it looks kinda translucent with what might cathode and anode inside...

So assuming it does look mx compatible switch like, and I'm just the only one who fails to visualize that xD,
couldn't it also be a pcb mounted 'cherry style' stabilizer? (except for maybe the LED)

Since some people guessed Zeal is making his own switches, (which to me seems even harder then designing stabilizers)
the options for stabilizers seem to be significantly less then for mx switches, (and costar and cherry both seem to have their issues)
and the fact that Zeal has a history with his gold plated stabilizers, it doesn't seem too far fetched maybe.

I don't really believe thats what it is tbh, but it would fit the mx compatible stem analogy...
And it would definitely be awesome to see a stabilizer that manages to combine crisp non-mushy feel and easy of changing caps I guess!  =)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 22 March 2015, 11:48:09
Zeal is hyping for an MX activated dildo.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 22 March 2015, 12:43:28
Zeal is hyping for an MX activated dildo.
At least Halverson will not be disappointed.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 13:10:27
Kinda looking like a matias switch

I agree. I think the "90 degree" tab might actually not be a shadow from a cherry cross stem, but a dark spot shining through the hollow center of a Matias stem.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 22 March 2015, 13:20:53
Kinda looking like a matias switch

I agree. I think the "90 degree" tab might actually not be a shadow from a cherry cross stem, but a dark spot shining through the hollow center of a Matias stem.

The picture so far is definitely not an Alps switch, not unless Matias changed their looks radically recently (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Matias_switch).  Given the red in the original picture, there is a chance that the picture so far is just unveiling old switches (Gateron Clears) and the new switches, Matias linear switches (which have red stems), will be unveiled later.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: njbair on Sun, 22 March 2015, 13:26:48
I can't even figure out where the picture so far fits into the pixelated image in the OP.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 22 March 2015, 16:10:16
Day 7:
(http://i.imgur.com/WRep9mn.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 22 March 2015, 16:19:16
(http://i.gyazo.com/6e5bc2ec2ea01daec1d78a67d7ad877c.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: slickmamba on Sun, 22 March 2015, 20:17:51
offering lubed switches with gold springs, duh
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 22 March 2015, 20:20:59
My bet is on a giant trans MX compatible dong.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Bromono on Sun, 22 March 2015, 20:25:43
A MX switch that finaly mimics the feel of Topre ? O.O.... Plz
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 22 March 2015, 20:35:52
A MX switch that finaly mimics the feel of Topre ? O.O.... Plz
Isn't that what the novatouch is for?
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Bromono on Sun, 22 March 2015, 20:40:25
A MX switch that finaly mimics the feel of Topre ? O.O.... Plz
Isn't that what the novatouch is for?

I want the reverse though. :( so I can use those beautiful Korean boards but with the great feeling of Topre.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 22 March 2015, 20:45:44
A MX switch that finaly mimics the feel of Topre ? O.O.... Plz
Isn't that what the novatouch is for?

I want the reverse though. :( so I can use those beautiful Korean boards but with the great feeling of Topre.
That would be the day  ;D
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 22 March 2015, 20:47:22
A MX switch that finaly mimics the feel of Topre ? O.O.... Plz
Isn't that what the novatouch is for?

I want the reverse though. :( so I can use those beautiful Korean boards but with the great feeling of Topre.
That would be the day  ;D

I guess you'd have me half converted to cup rubber that way.
My bet is still on a giant MX compatible dong.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 22 March 2015, 20:51:00
mass produced MX-compatible Topre switches would definitely be one of the great milestones in keyboarding history. i wonder if HHKB and Leopold are ready for when that day comes
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 23 March 2015, 06:33:25
mass produced MX-compatible Topre switches would definitely be one of the great milestones in keyboarding history. i wonder if HHKB and Leopold are ready for when that day comes

The only new switch type that GH would be more excited for than legit cherry 62g ergo clears.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 23 March 2015, 07:15:22
mass produced MX-compatible Topre switches would definitely be one of the great milestones in keyboarding history. i wonder if HHKB and Leopold are ready for when that day comes

Your asking for a round peg to be put in a square hole, topre switches (I hesitate to call them switches as they aren't discrete switches like mx switches are) by design are entirely different than mx switches.

mass produced MX-compatible Topre switches would definitely be one of the great milestones in keyboarding history. i wonder if HHKB and Leopold are ready for when that day comes

The only new switch type that GH would be more excited for than legit cherry 62g ergo clears.

I think if there truly was a market for ergo clears cherry would make them, it's all mostly hype.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: njbair on Mon, 23 March 2015, 09:17:48
mass produced MX-compatible Topre switches would definitely be one of the great milestones in keyboarding history. i wonder if HHKB and Leopold are ready for when that day comes

Your asking for a round peg to be put in a square hole, topre switches (I hesitate to call them switches as they aren't discrete switches like mx switches are) by design are entirely different than mx switches.

The two are fundamentally different, but there's really no reason you couldn't put a single rubber dome, spring, and capacitive pad inside a discrete switch casing.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Sygaldry on Mon, 23 March 2015, 09:56:41
A MX switch that finaly mimics the feel of Topre ? O.O.... Plz
Isn't that what the novatouch is for?

I want the reverse though. :( so I can use those beautiful Korean boards but with the great feeling of Topre.
Digilog bro!
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 23 March 2015, 17:46:17
Day 8:
(http://i.imgur.com/FMs5Vle.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 23 March 2015, 18:22:38
(http://i.gyazo.com/b8388d7baddea26640d4742cbe69ac23.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Cottonsox on Mon, 23 March 2015, 18:34:08
Gateron Stabs! In Semi Clear/Clear that they use in there switches.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: PunksDead on Mon, 23 March 2015, 18:35:38
Gateron ALPs switches
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 23 March 2015, 18:40:57
Ok, ok, Goat switches with fully trans housings.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 23 March 2015, 21:39:25
I just want to say thanks to the people who are putting the pieces together and posting it.

I still have no idea what it is, all i'm seeing is a switch cause that's what everyone is saying XD
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 23 March 2015, 22:09:05
I just want to say thanks to the people who are putting the pieces together and posting it.

I still have no idea what it is, all i'm seeing is a switch cause that's what everyone is saying XD

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mekqqmxkuw1qml4gd.gif)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: joey on Tue, 24 March 2015, 02:36:10
Gateron Stabs! In Semi Clear/Clear that they use in there switches.
I hope it's this!
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Dihedral on Tue, 24 March 2015, 02:55:07
mass produced MX-compatible Topre switches would definitely be one of the great milestones in keyboarding history. i wonder if HHKB and Leopold are ready for when that day comes

Your asking for a round peg to be put in a square hole, topre switches (I hesitate to call them switches as they aren't discrete switches like mx switches are) by design are entirely different than mx switches.

mass produced MX-compatible Topre switches would definitely be one of the great milestones in keyboarding history. i wonder if HHKB and Leopold are ready for when that day comes

The only new switch type that GH would be more excited for than legit cherry 62g ergo clears.

I think if there truly was a market for ergo clears cherry would make them, it's all mostly hype.

I would buy them in a heartbeat. I think there would be a market as a matias quiet click style 'ergo switch'
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 24 March 2015, 10:28:28
Show Image
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mekqqmxkuw1qml4gd.gif)


Of course! how did i not see that till now....
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:44:46
Day 9:
(http://i.imgur.com/xFPLeu1.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: njbair on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:49:19
Ohhh pwnnarwhal, we need your MS Paint skillz.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:54:50
Ohhh pwnnarwhal, we need your MS Paint skillz.
You can't get these skills through MS Paint, photoshop is the only way you get the skillz
(http://i.gyazo.com/c2cf396eade36f2d6069964c67aa3b46.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:56:28
Ohhh pwnnarwhal, we need your MS Paint skillz.
You can't get these skills through MS Paint, photoshop is the only way you get the skillz
Show Image
(http://i.gyazo.com/c2cf396eade36f2d6069964c67aa3b46.png)


But your Day 7 slice is misaligned by a couple pixels. :(
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 24 March 2015, 18:57:57
Ohhh pwnnarwhal, we need your MS Paint skillz.
You can't get these skills through MS Paint, photoshop is the only way you get the skillz
Show Image
(http://i.gyazo.com/c2cf396eade36f2d6069964c67aa3b46.png)


But your Day 7 slice is misaligned by a couple pixels. :(
Thats because I am using Gyazo to screenshot the photoshop canvas.
(http://gyazo.com/16f80ea2af4825a73e60e4ab11d1708f)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Bromono on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:05:11
Definetly a switch of some kind... Maybe it could be pre-ensembled ergo clears?
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: njbair on Tue, 24 March 2015, 19:06:47
Ohhh pwnnarwhal, we need your MS Paint skillz.
You can't get these skills through MS Paint, photoshop is the only way you get the skillz
Show Image
(http://i.gyazo.com/c2cf396eade36f2d6069964c67aa3b46.png)


But your Day 7 slice is misaligned by a couple pixels. :(

At least he's trying to help!!!
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 25 March 2015, 11:53:56
Day 10:
(http://i.imgur.com/F886mOv.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:09:45
Hope you guy don't mind!

(http://i.imgur.com/W1eYbDA.png)

Edit: Increased the size and fixed a few issues   :)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: njbair on Wed, 25 March 2015, 16:23:47
I still can't tell where in the pixelated swirly image in OP this is supposed to be.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 25 March 2015, 17:31:20
Gateron Stabs! In Semi Clear/Clear that they use in there switches.

I'll definitely cry salty tears of joy if this is what it will be!

It also was what I guessed on day 6 but tbh I'm even more confused about the puzzle now then back then... xD
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: mr.squishy on Wed, 25 March 2015, 17:39:56
I definitely see a stem, looks MX or MX compatible to me.
And for those that can't see it, mentally rotate the image 90 degrees counter clockwise  :thumb:
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 26 March 2015, 05:49:06
I definitely see a stem, looks MX or MX compatible to me.
And for those that can't see it, mentally rotate the image 90 degrees counter clockwise  :thumb:

Oh wow... Thx squishy!  :thumb:

That actually did the trick haha I can see it now! xD
Idk how I couldn't just visualize it before just because its rotated... Silly me!
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 26 March 2015, 13:04:35
Day 11:
(http://i.imgur.com/hMeCwTk.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 26 March 2015, 14:03:57
(http://i.gyazo.com/6cb4e1d8719c4b31450e891c66f482b9.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 26 March 2015, 15:54:08
Clear Gaterons with colored bottoms.  Final guess....only not really.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: slickmamba on Fri, 27 March 2015, 01:09:48
Gold leafed clear top/bottom gateron switches to fix the gateron leafs not being protected
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: tbc on Fri, 27 March 2015, 02:34:25
it's a mx shaped kitkat treat

i win
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 27 March 2015, 13:42:29
Day 12:
(http://i.imgur.com/Auhjggt.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 27 March 2015, 14:10:49
(http://i.gyazo.com/eaf35e84fd16afa91f3cd54a97f9294d.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 27 March 2015, 14:13:34
Show Image
(http://i.gyazo.com/eaf35e84fd16afa91f3cd54a97f9294d.png)


It is potato.  I celebrate with special Latvia potato.

(http://memeguy.com/photos/images/cake-day-in-latvia-sorry-for-potato-quality-120877.jpg)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 27 March 2015, 14:15:50
Show Image
(http://i.gyazo.com/eaf35e84fd16afa91f3cd54a97f9294d.png)


It is potato.  I celebrate with special Latvia potato.

Show Image
(http://memeguy.com/photos/images/cake-day-in-latvia-sorry-for-potato-quality-120877.jpg)

Two latvian look at clouds. One see potato. Other see impossible dream. Is same cloud.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 27 March 2015, 14:29:47
Show Image
(http://i.gyazo.com/eaf35e84fd16afa91f3cd54a97f9294d.png)


It is potato.  I celebrate with special Latvia potato.

Show Image
(http://memeguy.com/photos/images/cake-day-in-latvia-sorry-for-potato-quality-120877.jpg)


Two latvian look at clouds. One see potato. Other see impossible dream. Is same cloud.

In Latvia, girl below has much wealth

More
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/970/I-can-count-to-potato.jpg)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 28 March 2015, 16:31:56
Day 13:
(http://i.imgur.com/NZHiPQL.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Dihedral on Sun, 29 March 2015, 05:31:35
Gateron Ergo Clears with Gateron Clear Casing.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 29 March 2015, 05:35:01
(http://i.imgur.com/saQJHp9.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Sun, 29 March 2015, 08:08:13
Is anyone seeing anything other than a switch?

My only other guess is like a display case for artisans or something.....
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Dihedral on Sun, 29 March 2015, 08:16:19
Is anyone seeing anything other than a switch?

My only other guess is like a display case for artisans or something.....

I can't see how it wouldn't be a switch, unless Zeal's having us on (https://youtu.be/nLHNJ7vgbYo?t=8s).
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: njbair on Sun, 29 March 2015, 21:27:27
Whatever it is, DrHubblePhD mentions that it will definitely be a part of the Mira TKL group buy. So it's got to be a switch.

That, and it looks like a switch.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 30 March 2015, 00:23:06
Gateron Lock switch.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 30 March 2015, 00:36:35
Gateron Lock switch.

:eek:
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: joey on Mon, 30 March 2015, 03:04:07
Gateron Lock switch.
:thumb:
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: justify on Mon, 30 March 2015, 11:06:45
Yeah after seeing that mira GB I am 100% sure zeal is making his own switch, I would love to see it when it is finally revealed!
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: njbair on Mon, 30 March 2015, 11:38:34
Maybe it is an ALPS-like switch with an MX stem.

Maybe it is a discrete Topre-style switch, or a discrete BS switch.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 30 March 2015, 12:20:05
Sorry, missed out on yesterday's pic.

Day 14:
(http://i.imgur.com/5T9RnyM.png)

Day 15:
(http://i.imgur.com/Z7q0Jrf.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 30 March 2015, 12:24:44
14 looks like the missing one on the right side. Not sure about 15...
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: njbair on Mon, 30 March 2015, 12:57:21
[attach=1]

That, my friends, is definitely a Cherry stem.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: suicidal_orange on Mon, 30 March 2015, 13:01:38
and the casing is too wide to be a stab, unless it's a switch shaped one to make it cheaper to cut the plate to fit...
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 30 March 2015, 13:10:19
It won't take 100 pieces to figure out. :)

I'm not so sure about that anymore...
After 15 days we still don't really seem to know more then we did on day 2 xD


Gateron Lock switch.

Ö_Ö

Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 30 March 2015, 13:31:28
I find it amusing that no one even knows why we're guessing what this thing is.  It has not been established as a contest/giveaway, where the winner would get the item in question; there is no such incentive.  Why the hell are we guessing?  Why are we letting Zeal win?  Let's fight the power and boycott the nonsense.   >:D
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 30 March 2015, 13:32:47
I find it amusing that no one even knows why we're guessing what this thing is.  It has not been established as a contest/giveaway, where the winner would get the item in question; there is no such incentive.  Why the hell are we guessing?  Why are we letting Zeal win?  Let's fight the power and boycott the nonsense.   >:D
(http://www.skypeur.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/emoticon-0109-kiss.gif)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 30 March 2015, 13:32:50
I find it amusing that no one even knows why we're guessing what this thing is.  It has not been established as a contest/giveaway, where the winner would get the item in question; there is no such incentive.  Why the hell are we guessing?  Why are we letting Zeal win?  Let's fight the power and boycott the nonsense.   >:D

Good luck getting that to work. Even with your powers :)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 30 March 2015, 13:34:23
100 pieces must mean it's a much bigger picture. As far as we know, the switch could be a decoy and it's part of a much larger image, with plates or something as well. I wouldn't put it past Zeal :)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 30 March 2015, 13:41:16
I find it amusing that no one even knows why we're guessing what this thing is.  It has not been established as a contest/giveaway, where the winner would get the item in question; there is no such incentive.  Why the hell are we guessing?  Why are we letting Zeal win?  Let's fight the power and boycott the nonsense.   >:D

YEAH!! **** THE POLICE!! FIGHT THE POWER!!

(http://i100.independent.co.uk/image/22521-5h6qpe.gif)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:30:33
Day 16:
(http://i.imgur.com/0Z9jaFo.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:38:09
(http://i.gyazo.com/9e7fd015255ebc8600d08c65baafc0e1.png)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:45:22
(http://gifstumblr.com/images/im-bored_1030.gif)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:58:42
Days 17-27:

(http://i.imgur.com/4cAVDYM.jpg)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:03:55
Days 17-27:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/4cAVDYM.jpg)

How did you know?
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:07:24
Is it a pony?  I loooove ponies!
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:12:54
It's a Gateron clear switch with a Gateron transparent top, right?




Someone wake me when the reveal happens in 3 months...

(http://i.imgur.com/cbcO7qw.jpg)
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:17:39
It's a Gateron clear switch with a Gateron transparent top, right?

Probably a completely clear noppoo switch instead.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:23:43
Juicy bits coming soon™
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:24:50
Juicy bits coming soon™

I promise there will be no pics of my juicy bits if you speed this thing up.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:25:21
Show Image
(http://gifstumblr.com/images/im-bored_1030.gif)


We could do what your signature suggests Sir!

(http://i.giphy.com/5oOPvZJVEx6Za.gif)

Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 31 March 2015, 16:01:04
Let's fight the power and boycott the nonsense.   >:D
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:04:30
BAM

(http://i.imgur.com/Q2HvxDD.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Dihedral on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:33:58
Project Zealio? WAT?

This is, as promised, getting interesting. That spike looks like the pin on the bottom of an MX switch to me, just translucent.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:36:39
rgb goodness. #ohplease
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:37:42
Project Zealio? WAT?

This is, as promised, getting interesting. That spike looks like the pin on the bottom of an MX switch to me, just translucent.

(http://i.imgur.com/QEqn5bI.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:39:02
rgb goodness. #ohplease

(http://i.imgur.com/JyrfG9W.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Dihedral on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:39:58
Project Zealio? WAT?

This is, as promised, getting interesting. That spike looks like the pin on the bottom of an MX switch to me, just translucent.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QEqn5bI.png)



I think I may be right...
(http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_596_WhiteCherryMX_PCB_6.jpg)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:40:52
Project Zealio? WAT?

This is, as promised, getting interesting. That spike looks like the pin on the bottom of an MX switch to me, just translucent.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QEqn5bI.png)



I think I may be right...
Show Image
(http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_596_WhiteCherryMX_PCB_6.jpg)


Except mine's better.
(http://i.imgur.com/7mQxApS.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Dihedral on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:51:24
OK so here's what I think the most recent image is, explained.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:53:54
OK so here's what I think the most recent image is, explained.

(Attachment Link)

Hue.
(http://i.imgur.com/j0klcgg.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:56:11
Sorry for not putting them in an image, too much work to do right now
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Dihedral on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:57:36
OK so here's what I think the most recent image is, explained.

(Attachment Link)

Hue.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/j0klcgg.png)


That looks to me like the 'chunkier' MX pin. It gives us an idea of what angle the shot is taken from, so this is getting good!
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:59:26
OK so here's what I think the most recent image is, explained.

(Attachment Link)

Hue.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/j0klcgg.png)


That looks to me like the 'chunkier' MX pin. It gives us an idea of what angle the shot is taken from, so this is getting good!

I'm afraid your guess is a bit off
(http://i.imgur.com/7lbmo4i.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: joey on Wed, 01 April 2015, 13:41:37
Sorry for not putting them in an image, too much work to do right now
Wanted: Someone with awesome Paint skills.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 13:45:25
Sorry for not putting them in an image, too much work to do right now
Wanted: Someone with awesome Paint skills.

Is there a need?
(http://i.imgur.com/4Mba352.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: njbair on Wed, 01 April 2015, 14:43:51
OK well we've got two parts here...

[attach=1]
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 01 April 2015, 14:45:06
OK well we've got two parts here...


/me gasps

It's a SWITCH! :eek:
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 01 April 2015, 14:45:44
OK well we've got two parts here...

(Attachment Link)
Thanks! You did the work I didn't want to XD
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 01 April 2015, 14:46:28
Not sure if it's the angle but the stem looks longer than usual....and the housing is maybe shorter? Switches specifically for low profile casings?
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: plegnic on Wed, 01 April 2015, 14:47:30
Not sure if it's the angle but the stem looks longer than usual....and the housing is maybe shorter? Switches specifically for low profile casings?
I think it's just that the two chunks of the image aren't lined up perfectly.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 01 April 2015, 14:48:04
Not sure if it's the angle but the stem looks longer than usual....and the housing is maybe shorter? Switches specifically for low profile casings?
I think the housing is longer, he just moved it so the image was smaller, and it might be the angle for the stem?
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 01 April 2015, 14:48:26
Not sure if it's the angle but the stem looks longer than usual....and the housing is maybe shorter? Switches specifically for low profile casings?
I think it's just that the two chunks of the image aren't lined up perfectly.

Ah, duh. Forgot they were disconnected.  :))
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: njbair on Wed, 01 April 2015, 14:49:03
Not sure if it's the angle but the stem looks longer than usual....and the housing is maybe shorter? Switches specifically for low profile casings?

I might have things in the wrong spot so far.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: plegnic on Wed, 01 April 2015, 14:51:34
Before we got pictures of the pins, I was thinking it was just a normal switch with the colors inverted...
(http://i.imgur.com/WVpRE5t.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 01 April 2015, 14:51:36
(http://i.imgur.com/XYsWZj7.jpg?1)
"NDA: By opening this bag, you hereby agree not to reveal any info or pictures of Project Zealio!"
**** NDA. PICTURE! BAM!
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: njbair on Wed, 01 April 2015, 14:53:03
This looks better:

[attach=1]
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 01 April 2015, 14:53:13
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XYsWZj7.jpg?1)

"NDA: By opening this bag, you hereby agree not to reveal any info or pictures of Project Zealio!"
**** NDA. PICTURE! BAM!

How do I sign up for the Zealio Closed Beta Test?
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 15:04:11
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XYsWZj7.jpg?1)

"NDA: By opening this bag, you hereby agree not to reveal any info or pictures of Project Zealio!"
**** NDA. PICTURE! BAM!

How do I sign up for the Zealio Closed Beta Test?

It's still in alpha.
(http://i.imgur.com/hq7E8zm.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/UbJe9se.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/3H3FghZ.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/aWiu4JH.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Y4gxuvW.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/a9hQpwk.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/qeASVqo.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/42UdplR.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EZghXQH.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 01 April 2015, 15:05:33
OHHHH SHETTTT SOME1 ASSMBLE DEES PIXELS NAOOOOO
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 01 April 2015, 15:06:22
It's still in alpha.

/me is still waiting
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: njbair on Wed, 01 April 2015, 15:14:20
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: plegnic on Wed, 01 April 2015, 15:37:01
We can probably guess a few pieces:
(http://i.imgur.com/K6j5sDI.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 01 April 2015, 15:39:00
We can probably guess a few pieces:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/K6j5sDI.png)

I don't see how this picture is ever gonna be helpfull, the label are always on the top of the switches, so it will look just like a gateron clear.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 15:42:29
:rolleyes:

(http://i.imgur.com/NCYfVCN.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/AnmBOSn.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/oeqiNAe.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/OFuBF1x.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/9BwDpbV.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/l2R4iEH.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/mo8ZIIU.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/pb799ai.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/cWbyPD5.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 01 April 2015, 15:42:34
I don't see how this picture is ever gonna be helpfull, the label are always on the top of the switches, so it will look just like a gateron clear.

It looks like there is something in that fat middle bottom stem. Probably some kind of lightsaber crystal.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: plegnic on Wed, 01 April 2015, 16:06:49
A couple pixels off.
(http://i.imgur.com/tMNjAmJ.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 01 April 2015, 16:09:51
A couple pixels off.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tMNjAmJ.png)

I think it is a cherry rgb switch still
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 01 April 2015, 16:37:27
A couple pixels off.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tMNjAmJ.png)

I think it is a cherry rgb switch still

It does look similar. Maybe the holes in the bottom housing for the LED aren't the same as the Cherry RGB switch.

Gateron RGB switch?
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 01 April 2015, 17:04:57
A couple pixels off.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tMNjAmJ.png)

I think it is a cherry rgb switch still

It does look similar. Maybe the holes in the bottom housing for the LED aren't the same as the Cherry RGB switch.

Gateron RGB switch?
Thats the most likely answer
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 01 April 2015, 17:07:20
inb4 this puzzle is completed and then the other side of the switch is another 100 piece puzzle
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 17:31:41
A couple pixels off.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tMNjAmJ.png)

I think it is a cherry rgb switch still

Except Cherry RGB switches are milky white on the bottom...
(http://i.imgur.com/pBBZZzJ.jpg)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Cottonsox on Wed, 01 April 2015, 17:32:43
omg it's a t shirt!
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 01 April 2015, 17:38:07
Ok, ok, Goat switches with fully trans housings.
Title: Re: ? (100 piece puzzle)
Post by: slickmamba on Wed, 01 April 2015, 20:43:35
Gold leafed clear top/bottom gateron switches to fix the gateron leafs not being protected

Maybe minus the gateron part?  Gf aha close enough ;)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Moralless on Wed, 01 April 2015, 20:47:45

A couple pixels off.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tMNjAmJ.png)


Looks like there's a gateron switch in front of whatever project zealio is.
Time to restart the puzzle with a new pic!
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:01:42
I'll just leave this here

(http://i.imgur.com/luLIJOo.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/0Lz1nlu.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/ustAbxx.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/5CS8q1T.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/karfLv0.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/9EhcJxx.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/5B5j9JA.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/dFoMiFV.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/OVo6ovl.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/sTUZON0.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/1QBAigC.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/70mn3II.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EZsypbj.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/GMim39x.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/WV9yIlx.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/re0Umx3.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/lVRWW7n.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/1SVTFlK.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/DmKHvOR.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/L5Ujr1h.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/XlP31lW.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/1bmwxmB.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/ihn0c8n.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/ibH9YpV.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/BdF4nsu.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/UX7BuiV.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/rhaVZrY.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/a5fBruI.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/hMzQALu.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/zoyn1LX.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/WiqcT2e.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/yjXUMr0.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/r5QuMgy.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: njbair on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:03:23
Sorry folks. I'm at home now and Photoshop doesn't work on my Chromebook.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:04:33
Sorry folks. I'm at home now and Photoshop doesn't work on my Chromebook.
I can do it once my CSGO comp game ends
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:05:01
So gold leaf Gateron Clear.  Too much hype for that reveal.

(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Anticlimactic+gif+warning+i+told+you_29fb5e_4574068.gif)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:06:08
So gold leaf Gateron Clear.  Too much hype for that reveal.

Show Image
(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Anticlimactic+gif+warning+i+told+you_29fb5e_4574068.gif)


I don't think you see it. :P
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:16:17
Underskirt shot. :))

[NSFW]
More
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/files/Project_Zealio.jpg)


Would be funny if all of this was a cruel April 1st joke...
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:20:48
All of the image that you need to know
(http://i.gyazo.com/522599948e31c7e6d4c3127e852e1c3a.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Alex92 on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:28:28
All of the image that you need to know
Show Image
(http://i.gyazo.com/522599948e31c7e6d4c3127e852e1c3a.png)


Aww man...and I just finished it too  :p

(http://i.imgur.com/GG4dG1V.png)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: njbair on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:32:28
Underskirt shot. :))

[NSFW]
More
Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/files/Project_Zealio.jpg)


Would be funny if all of this was a cruel April 1st joke...


I definitely see LED holes there.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:32:45
Outside of the fact that it looks to have a gold spring inside with gold contacts, I'm not getting the hype...unless there's an SMD LED module in the post in the middle.

Soooooo

(http://new4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Well+that+was+anticlimactic+i+m+a+bit+disappointed+to+be+_bb32b284d836dd621eae6093d28f2944.gif)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:32:51
All of the image that you need to know
Show Image
(http://i.gyazo.com/522599948e31c7e6d4c3127e852e1c3a.png)


Aww man...and I just finished it too  :p

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/GG4dG1V.png)

Yours is a lot better than mine anyways
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:35:38
Outside of the fact that it looks to have a gold spring inside with gold contacts, I'm not getting the hype...unless there's an SMD LED module in the post in the middle.

Soooooo

Show Image
(http://new4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Well+that+was+anticlimactic+i+m+a+bit+disappointed+to+be+_bb32b284d836dd621eae6093d28f2944.gif)


There is a little more hype left that you guys haven't figured out.
This last bit that he hasn't revealed is much more than just "reddit relevant".
I'll leave you to figure out the hype.  :thumb:
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:37:41
Outside of the fact that it looks to have a gold spring inside with gold contacts, I'm not getting the hype...unless there's an SMD LED module in the post in the middle.

Soooooo

Show Image
(http://new4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Well+that+was+anticlimactic+i+m+a+bit+disappointed+to+be+_bb32b284d836dd621eae6093d28f2944.gif)


There is a little more hype left that you guys haven't figured out.
This last bit that he hasn't revealed is much more than just "reddit relevant".
I'll leave you to figure out the hype.  :thumb:
Well in the picture there is something red :<
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: njbair on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:40:09
Outside of the fact that it looks to have a gold spring inside with gold contacts, I'm not getting the hype...unless there's an SMD LED module in the post in the middle.

Soooooo

Show Image
(http://new4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Well+that+was+anticlimactic+i+m+a+bit+disappointed+to+be+_bb32b284d836dd621eae6093d28f2944.gif)


There is a little more hype left that you guys haven't figured out.
This last bit that he hasn't revealed is much more than just "reddit relevant".
I'll leave you to figure out the hype.  :thumb:
Well in the picture there is something red :<

Yeah you're right. It's red and there's a spirally thing.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:49:46
I don't understand what the picture means.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:52:08
Switch has LED in the middle and lights up when it's depressed.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: HTN47 on Wed, 01 April 2015, 21:57:57
Could this be the famous RGB switches with LED inside the switch similar to that from the Corsair RGB keyboards?

whoops nub posted the answer  :D
Switch has LED in the middle and lights up when it's depressed.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: njbair on Wed, 01 April 2015, 22:04:06
Is that really what this is? If it's an RGB LED where are the 4 extra leads?
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 April 2015, 22:29:06
Is that really what this is? If it's an RGB LED where are the 4 extra leads?

?
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Cottonsox on Wed, 01 April 2015, 22:31:35
 :eek:
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 01 April 2015, 22:32:08
Is that really what this is? If it's an RGB LED where are the 4 extra leads?

?

Where's my mystery package?
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: KnivesM on Wed, 01 April 2015, 22:34:12
Awesome, Cherry RGB  :eek:
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: njbair on Wed, 01 April 2015, 22:36:54
How does this work? Can you set the color or does it just cycle through them all the time?
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 02 April 2015, 00:43:40
Zealio is love~ Zelio is life ~

I've got one. I've felt it. I've touched it. I've used it.

I love it~ For a factory new switch, it's dank, son. Beats any factory new MX switch.

I'm hype. Sign me up for an entire batch, plox.

I took these photos earlier tonight~ Sorry for some blur~ They were rushed :(

(http://i.imgur.com/hBPJHKM.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Th164eD.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/XqyW05D.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/R2WFOgw.jpg)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 02 April 2015, 00:50:37
Neato!!!
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 02 April 2015, 00:52:00
Neato!!!

They're neato alright!!! I can't wait to get more...
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 02 April 2015, 00:58:57
Neato!!!

(http://new3.fjcdn.com/comments/Black+matured+baby+is+impressed+_687535464393f1e0419cf5d036fcd1f8.jpg)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 02 April 2015, 00:59:51
Neato!!!

They're neato alright!!! I can't wait to get more...
You only got one right now??? what a tease...  :))

I'm not a huge LED fan, but if you get them set up right... could be legit... Would be real
sick for capslock and numpad setup...
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 02 April 2015, 01:03:17
You only got one right now??? what a tease...  :))

I'm not a huge LED fan, but if you get them set up right... could be legit... Would be real
sick for capslock and numpad setup...

I'm with you, mane. I don't own a single backlit keyboard because I honestly don't really care for them. However, a well EVENLY lit keyboard under the keycaps would look dayum fine. Even if not backlit, these clear switches would look mighty fine too.


Neato!!!

Show Image
(http://new3.fjcdn.com/comments/Black+matured+baby+is+impressed+_687535464393f1e0419cf5d036fcd1f8.jpg)


(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/996658/funny-baby-o.gif)
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 02 April 2015, 01:30:38
How does this work? Can you set the color or does it just cycle through them all the time?
Same question.
Also who's the manufacturer?
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeroo on Thu, 02 April 2015, 04:31:14
How does this work? Can you set the color or does it just cycle through them all the time?
Same question.
Also who's the manufacturer?
Better be gateron for optimal girth
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Dihedral on Thu, 02 April 2015, 07:06:09
I would want some of these, but only with Clear switches which Gaterons do not have an equivalent for.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 02 April 2015, 07:10:30
How does this work? Can you set the color or does it just cycle through them all the time?
Same question.
Also who's the manufacturer?

Those LEDs just cycle through all of the colours unfortunately.
I don't know of any 2x3x4 or 1.8mm LEDs which allow you to control the colours.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: pichu23 on Thu, 02 April 2015, 22:01:31
Ahaaa! So it was RGB :P really interested in your project Henry. Will drop by here often !
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: feizor on Tue, 14 April 2015, 07:27:05
How does this work? Can you set the color or does it just cycle through them all the time?
Same question.
Also who's the manufacturer?

Those LEDs just cycle through all of the colours unfortunately.
I don't know of any 2x3x4 or 1.8mm LEDs which allow you to control the colours.

I think the point of the video was not the RGB led but infact the totally see through transparent switch housing.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: wakko on Mon, 27 April 2015, 00:05:50
Someone asked this earlier, do you program the color or they change somehow? Not really into keyboards that light up like Christmas trees.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: fi0x on Sat, 06 June 2015, 09:01:20
I was like Gateron Clear switch tops with gold springs and gold contacts?
More
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Awesome.
And then I was like wait...
Cherry MX Clears in a "clear" switch casing with gold springs and contacts?
More
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Even Better.
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 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Now to prepare my wallet...
More
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Replace Starlight Breaker with Project Zealio and replace the first 'you' with 'your wallet'.

Thank you Zeal!
[attachimg=5]
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: adamski07 on Fri, 17 July 2015, 20:32:08
This is awesome! I'll try to get a spot for Mira and hoping to be in the first 57. I am also hoping that Winkeyless remembers my suggestions of having a better controller for their boards. It would be nice if we can set any color we want for each RGB LED. Unfortunately, their current controller can't do this yet. Only few different RGB modes and just the on board's led.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: njbair on Fri, 17 July 2015, 23:25:59
This is awesome! I'll try to get a spot for Mira and hoping to be in the first 57. I am also hoping that Winkeyless remembers my suggestions of having a better controller for their boards. It would be nice if we can set any color we want for each RGB LED. Unfortunately, their current controller can't do this yet. Only few different RGB modes and just the on board's led.

AFAIK the RGB channels on these switches are not individually addressable, so they really won't help you towards your goal of fully-customizable backlighting.
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 22 July 2015, 16:27:06
Fresh protos soon™
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 22 July 2015, 17:15:03
 :blank: There are no words.  :blank:
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 01:30:38
Announcement tomorrow morning.

#hypeisreal
Title: Re: ? (Introducing Project Zealio~)
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 29 July 2015, 01:32:50
Announcement tomorrow morning.

#hypeisreal

LETSSSSSSSSSSS GO  :-*
Title: Re: Project Zealio - Announcement in 9ish hours.
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 29 July 2015, 01:38:17
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:02:12
You asked for it, we delivered.

Introducing Project Zealios - 62g gold plated springs in an exclusive custom made Purple "MX Clear" stem. No ErgoBrown Gateron bull**** (cough). This is the real deal. Along with the project was a custom made transparent switch bottom housing to maximize LED lighting. Switch will be compatible with 4-pin RGB LEDs (not pictured). The purple stems have the tight stem cross removed from the original MX Clear stems. No more accidental switch breaking! Yay!

(http://puu.sh/jh6Mu/3ac26033a2.png)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:05:59
Wow!


Where is the purchase link??!?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:06:20
(http://replygif.net/i/1176.gif)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:09:08
Wow!


Where is the purchase link??!?

After receiving some samples hopefully next week, I'll be sending a few out to builders/reviewers. After that phase, a GB will be made. :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:09:16
Wow!


Where is the purchase link??!?

Yes I need to buy these!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:09:38
Wow!


Where is the purchase link??!?

After receiving some samples hopefully next week, I'll be sending a few out to builders/reviewers. After that phase, a GB will be made. :)

:D


I believe you have my address, sir...
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:10:35
Wow!


Where is the purchase link??!?

After receiving some samples hopefully next week, I'll be sending a few out to builders/reviewers. After that phase, a GB will be made. :)

Send me some samples bro??
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:15:39
Wow!


Where is the purchase link??!?

After receiving some samples hopefully next week, I'll be sending a few out to builders/reviewers. After that phase, a GB will be made. :)

:D


I believe you have my address, sir...

Wow!


Where is the purchase link??!?

After receiving some samples hopefully next week, I'll be sending a few out to builders/reviewers. After that phase, a GB will be made. :)

Send me some samples bro??

;)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:15:50
You asked for it, we delivered.

Introducing Project Zealios - 62g gold plated springs in an exclusive custom made Purple "MX Clear" stem. No ErgoBrown Gateron bull**** (cough). This is the real deal. Along with the project was a custom made transparent switch bottom housing to maximize LED lighting. Switch will be compatible with 4-pin RGB LEDs (not pictured).

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jh6Mu/3ac26033a2.png)


 :thumb: Beautiful!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:22:58
Oh, I also forgot to mention...

These purple stems have the tight stem cross removed from the original MX Clear stems. No more accidental switch breaking!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:27:20
Oh, I also forgot to mention...

These purple stems have the tight stem cross removed from the original MX Clear stems. No more accidental switch breaking!

I am gonna need to get a bunch of these for some customs. What is the cost per switch looking like?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: aznairjordan on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:27:31
You asked for it, we delivered.

Introducing Project Zealios - 62g gold plated springs in an exclusive custom made Purple "MX Clear" stem. No ErgoBrown Gateron bull**** (cough). This is the real deal. Along with the project was a custom made transparent switch bottom housing to maximize LED lighting. Switch will be compatible with 4-pin RGB LEDs (not pictured).

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jh6Mu/3ac26033a2.png)


so nice.. will definitely be picking up some for my hubble mira :D
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Invaderevan on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:31:20
yea, I am gonna want to buy ALOT of these
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: joey on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:33:44
Ordering some for sure!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:36:43
You asked for it, we delivered.

Introducing Project Zealios - 62g gold plated springs in an exclusive custom made Purple "MX Clear" stem. No ErgoBrown Gateron bull**** (cough). This is the real deal. Along with the project was a custom made transparent switch bottom housing to maximize LED lighting. Switch will be compatible with 4-pin RGB LEDs (not pictured).

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jh6Mu/3ac26033a2.png)


so nice.. will definitely be picking up some for my hubble mira :D

Official Mira switch... I think so  :))

But seriously, when you purchase your Mira (which will likely happen over Zeal's site) consider picking up some of these as well!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Sent on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:37:00
So,  like,  Zeal,  I need these. I need a lot of these. Just saying.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:40:23
So,  like,  Zeal,  I need these. I need a lot of these. Just saying.

This goes too well with your avatar, mane...
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:40:53
Maximum overhype.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jbondeson on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:41:08
Welp, no more switch buying for a while.

What kind of manufacturing timeframe are we talking?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:41:13
hm... send some? curious :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:44:06
Maximum overhype.

It looks like its time to produce the ****loard
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:44:59
So,  like,  Zeal,  I need these. I need a lot of these. Just saying.

I need lots. too.

Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Sent on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:45:05
So,  like,  Zeal,  I need these. I need a lot of these. Just saying.

This goes too well with your avatar, mane...

That's my asking politely face. :))  :-*
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:46:01
Welp, no more switch buying for a while.

What kind of manufacturing timeframe are we talking?

It shouldn't be too long. I'm going to guess under a month, but will confirm before GB.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: cwils0n on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:48:04
(http://i.imgur.com/qccxIjS.gif)

I wants them.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jbondeson on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:53:39

It shouldn't be too long. I'm going to guess under a month, but will confirm before GB.

I will prepare my wallet!

I foresee several of my keyboards going under the soldering iron later this year. :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 29 July 2015, 11:54:54
Looks perfect, I'm in for sure. :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: aznairjordan on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:01:43
You asked for it, we delivered.

Introducing Project Zealios - 62g gold plated springs in an exclusive custom made Purple "MX Clear" stem. No ErgoBrown Gateron bull**** (cough). This is the real deal. Along with the project was a custom made transparent switch bottom housing to maximize LED lighting. Switch will be compatible with 4-pin RGB LEDs (not pictured).

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jh6Mu/3ac26033a2.png)


so nice.. will definitely be picking up some for my hubble mira :D

Official Mira switch... I think so  :))

But seriously, when you purchase your Mira (which will likely happen over Zeal's site) consider picking up some of these as well!
Noob question time, will the mira pcb support the rgb leds that zeal is talking about?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:11:04
You asked for it, we delivered.

Introducing Project Zealios - 62g gold plated springs in an exclusive custom made Purple "MX Clear" stem. No ErgoBrown Gateron bull**** (cough). This is the real deal. Along with the project was a custom made transparent switch bottom housing to maximize LED lighting. Switch will be compatible with 4-pin RGB LEDs (not pictured).

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jh6Mu/3ac26033a2.png)


so nice.. will definitely be picking up some for my hubble mira :D

Official Mira switch... I think so  :))

But seriously, when you purchase your Mira (which will likely happen over Zeal's site) consider picking up some of these as well!
Noob question time, will the mira pcb support the rgb leds that zeal is talking about?

Nope it doesnt not. They are not the same thing. Mira will only support the usual single color 2 pin LED's the ones Zeal is talking about are full color range 4 pin LEDs.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: aznairjordan on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:18:20
You asked for it, we delivered.

Introducing Project Zealios - 62g gold plated springs in an exclusive custom made Purple "MX Clear" stem. No ErgoBrown Gateron bull**** (cough). This is the real deal. Along with the project was a custom made transparent switch bottom housing to maximize LED lighting. Switch will be compatible with 4-pin RGB LEDs (not pictured).

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jh6Mu/3ac26033a2.png)


so nice.. will definitely be picking up some for my hubble mira :D

Official Mira switch... I think so  :))

But seriously, when you purchase your Mira (which will likely happen over Zeal's site) consider picking up some of these as well!
Noob question time, will the mira pcb support the rgb leds that zeal is talking about?

Nope it doesnt not. They are not the same thing. Mira will only support the usual single color 2 pin LED's the ones Zeal is talking about are full color range 4 pin LEDs.

hmm okay, guess I gotta get these sip socketed then. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: admiralvorian on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:21:38
Zeal this is some next-level **** man

Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:22:15
Well done!

I see many, many of these in my future  :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Booper on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:23:00
Holy crap those are super sexy. I'm in for sure!
Title: Re: ?
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:24:31
#hypetrainisapparentlytooreal

Totally going to stick these in the Mira.
The hype of these+mira may finally do me in.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:32:09
Holy crap those are super sexy. I'm in for sure!

Boop's purple seal of approval? ;)

Well done!

I see many, many of these in my future  :thumb:

I do too. So glad that the dream is finally becoming a reality!

Zeal this is some next-level **** man

Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mashby on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:32:31
I'm more of a linear guy, but these would look GREAT in the ALT 60!!!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:33:27
I'm more of a linear guy, but these would look GREAT in the ALT 60!!!

Linear 62g variant will be the "clear" stem shown on April 1st... :) Both switches will be available during the pre-order/GB!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:34:18
I'm more of a linear guy, but these would look GREAT in the ALT 60!!!

Or a JD45, really. Just because the PCB is red means nothing! :))
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:34:34
Zeal I need these for my Pink 456!


That is when (if :( ) it arrives.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:44:24
Zeal I need these for my Pink 456!


That is when (if :( ) it arrives.

:( I hope your 456 is found promptly and undamaged.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Lurch on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:44:26
REH-HEH-HHEEEAAALLLLLYYYY?

I will definitely be grabbling some of these.

Nice one Zeal. :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:46:11
I'm more of a linear guy, but these would look GREAT in the ALT 60!!!

Or a JD45, really. Just because the PCB is red means nothing! :))

Someone needs to find a way to make transparent PCBs w/o the yellow tint from fiberglass.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:46:47
I'm more of a linear guy, but these would look GREAT in the ALT 60!!!

Or a JD45, really. Just because the PCB is red means nothing! :))

Someone needs to find a way to make transparent PCBs w/o the yellow tint from fiberglass.
it would probably be very expensive, but you could do glass.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:47:27
Zeal I need these for my Pink 456!


That is when (if :( ) it arrives.

:( I hope your 456 is found promptly and undamaged.
USPS started being very helpful once I dropped the 1k insurance bomb. The board is boxed with 4-5in of foam on every side so I'm fairly sure that it'll be well protected.

Seriously though, I'm putting these switches in the board. They'll look great with the pink.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: byker on Wed, 29 July 2015, 12:53:55
Hmm, I do like purple. I guess I'm in for some.  :-*
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 29 July 2015, 13:00:52
I'm more of a linear guy, but these would look GREAT in the ALT 60!!!

Or a JD45, really. Just because the PCB is red means nothing! :))

Someone needs to find a way to make transparent PCBs w/o the yellow tint from fiberglass.
it would probably be very expensive, but you could do glass.
I remember seeing a glass PCB somewhere with moderately transparent traces so light could shine through. IIRC it was on some eng field trip 2ish years ago.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Blackhawk on Wed, 29 July 2015, 13:03:07
Ergo clears with purple stems?! Count me in  ;D
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Karura on Wed, 29 July 2015, 13:08:57
GJ Zealios, knocked it right out the park!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Wed, 29 July 2015, 13:38:21
Dang it, now I'll be forced to add support for RGB LEDs on the AUNK... And buy tons of these switches as well.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 13:41:57
Dang it, now I'll be forced to add support for RGB LEDs on the AUNK... And buy tons of these switches as well.

+1 for more RGB aftermarket PCB designs. :) I'm also in the works with a PCB designer to support 4 pin RGB LEDs.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Wed, 29 July 2015, 13:52:41
These are made for Hyperfuse. On a white plasti-dipped Leeku 1800 PCB with cyan LEDs. In a gray case.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: romevi on Wed, 29 July 2015, 14:31:31
Whelp. Found the new switches I'll be using on my first custom.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 29 July 2015, 14:43:53
*unzips.....*

I need lots of these :D Guess my (brief) self imposed GB ban will be over (again)!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 July 2015, 14:47:41
*unzips.....*

I need lots of these :D Guess my (brief) self imposed GB ban will be over (again)!

I hear you. I'm not really buying keyboard stuff anymore, and I have to have these. Many. Many of these.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 29 July 2015, 14:52:28
*unzips.....*

I need lots of these :D Guess my (brief) self imposed GB ban will be over (again)!

I hear you. I'm not really buying keyboard stuff anymore, and I have to have these. Many. Many of these.

I'm not even using MX boards anymore and I'm thinking about buying some.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 July 2015, 14:55:29
*unzips.....*

I need lots of these :D Guess my (brief) self imposed GB ban will be over (again)!

I hear you. I'm not really buying keyboard stuff anymore, and I have to have these. Many. Many of these.

I'm not even using MX boards anymore and I'm thinking about buying some.

I'm using two Dell SK-8115's. One at home, one at work. I win. :))
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: digi on Wed, 29 July 2015, 14:57:05
using two Dell SK-8115's. One at home, one at work. I win. :))

I really hope you're joking...not cool.....not cool.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 29 July 2015, 14:59:38
using two Dell SK-8115's. One at home, one at work. I win. :))

I really hope you're joking...not cool.....not cool.

Not joking, actually. :)

Dell SK-8115. One at home, one at work. Pretty darn good for a rubber dome over membrane. I disassembled one for painting, and learned why I like these Dells. Slider (attached to keycap) in a channel over the rubber dome sheet. Under the domes are a pair of membranes, very much like what are in an IBM Model M.

I painted the one I use at home white. Now I just need to swap those green LEDs for blue ones.


Made new Dell thread here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73999.0), so we don't derail Zeal's thread any more.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 29 July 2015, 15:00:53
Congrats to JD on 11K posts  :thumb:

using two Dell SK-8115's. One at home, one at work. I win. :))

I really hope you're joking...not cool.....not cool.

Not joking, actually. :)

Dell SK-8115. One at home, one at work. Pretty darn good for a rubber dome over membrane. I disassembled one for painting, and learned why I like these Dells. Slider (attached to keycap) in a channel over the rubber dome sheet. Under the domes are a pair of membranes, very much like what are in an IBM Model M.

I painted the one I use at home white. Now I just need to swap those green LEDs for blue ones.
Maybe I'll dust this off and use it. (It's very tactile)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/29/5c0bebd77ff229d55bef07668cf550f7.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: chromatically on Wed, 29 July 2015, 15:03:01
more purple.... please, my wallet can't handle this :(
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: romevi on Wed, 29 July 2015, 15:03:21
using two Dell SK-8115's. One at home, one at work. I win. :))

I really hope you're joking...not cool.....not cool.

Not joking, actually. :)

Dell SK-8115. One at home, one at work. Pretty darn good for a rubber dome over membrane. I disassembled one for painting, and learned why I like these Dells. Slider (attached to keycap) in a channel over the rubber dome sheet. Under the domes are a pair of membranes, very much like what are in an IBM Model M.

I painted the one I use at home white. Now I just need to swap those green LEDs for blue ones.
Maybe I'll dust this off and use it. (It's very tactile)

Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/29/5c0bebd77ff229d55bef07668cf550f7.jpg)


I used to have that keyboard at work and I loved it! I didn't even know it was a really good rubberdome; I just loved using it.

Edit:
Yes! The IT guy still had a couple left. Gonna give back the ****ty wireless Logitech.

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Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: digi on Wed, 29 July 2015, 15:07:55
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 29 July 2015, 15:07:57
It seems that these tick all the boxes, including some boxes that didn't exist!

Are they going to be generally available for purchase after the GB?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: monotagary on Wed, 29 July 2015, 15:14:16
This is incredible Zeal! The hype for this is real.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Noko on Wed, 29 July 2015, 15:26:45
Zeal, you are amazing.  Holy amazeballs.
Right down to the purple.  !!!!

Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mbrown559 on Wed, 29 July 2015, 15:28:58
Yes, I need these switches in my life.  Will be ordering a good amount of these when they are available.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 15:30:29
It seems that these tick all the boxes, including some boxes that didn't exist!

Are they going to be generally available for purchase after the GB?

Yes, I plan on stocking them on my site after the GB. :)

This is incredible Zeal! The hype for this is real.

Thanks!
Zeal, you are amazing.  Holy amazeballs.
Right down to the purple.  !!!!

Yeeeeeee purple!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 29 July 2015, 15:52:07
Wow!


Where is the purchase link??!?

After receiving some samples hopefully next week, I'll be sending a few out to builders/reviewers. After that phase, a GB will be made. :)

Send me some samples bro??

This is a list I need to be on as well.  Damn those are sexy.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 29 July 2015, 16:08:45
Oh god I need these.   :eek:   Absolutely incredible.

Wow!


Where is the purchase link??!?

After receiving some samples hopefully next week, I'll be sending a few out to builders/reviewers. After that phase, a GB will be made. :)

Send me some samples bro??

This is a list I need to be on as well.  Damn those are sexy.

+1  ;)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 29 July 2015, 16:22:09
Very nice!

Questions:

1. Was anyone breaking their switches because of the tight stem on the clears?  I didn't see any disadvantage to those fat stem crosses but I liked that it make me feel that my caps weren't loose (I've had some trouble with loose caps, maybe I got a faulty batch of browns), but I won't mind if the stem isn't fat if it doesn't have any advantage to it.

2. How is the stem different from stock stems apart from the other color and nonfat crosses?  Are the sliders shaved like some people seem to do to supposedly make them smoother?

3.  Is the housing made from different materials than regular MX switches?  And if yes does that pose a problem?  I know that Lastpilot mentioned that when he made a board with transparent housings on the switches he lubed the upper housing because it made for a more silent upstroke (this is not a problem with stock mx housing, lubing the upper housing is irrelevant).
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: kennardsmith on Wed, 29 July 2015, 16:41:48
I would like a lot of these.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 17:48:02
Very nice!

Questions:

1. Was anyone breaking their switches because of the tight stem on the clears?  I didn't see any disadvantage to those fat stem crosses but I liked that it make me feel that my caps weren't loose (I've had some trouble with loose caps, maybe I got a faulty batch of browns), but I won't mind if the stem isn't fat if it doesn't have any advantage to it.

2. How is the stem different from stock stems apart from the other color and nonfat crosses?  Are the sliders shaved like some people seem to do to supposedly make them smoother?

3.  Is the housing made from different materials than regular MX switches?  And if yes does that pose a problem?  I know that Lastpilot mentioned that when he made a board with transparent housings on the switches he lubed the upper housing because it made for a more silent upstroke (this is not a problem with stock mx housing, lubing the upper housing is irrelevant).

1. Yes, it's a huge problem that's quite widely known. Especially happens on tight keycaps (GMK ABS, Gateron PBT, etc)
If you were using imsto keycaps, those are generally very loose keycaps. That may be why it felt "just right" on MX Clears.
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b534/terran5994/10FC8130-01C4-4798-AFEA-232A6CF90CE4-320-0000002ECAE8B10F_zps6a153924.jpg)

2. It's the same other than the cross-stem. However, you can expect a smoother feeling that we all appreciate from Gateron. I'm not too sure what you mean by shaving the slider...that would make it rougher.

3. Slider is POM, housing is Nylon. Pretty much same materials as Cherry switches. I think the clear housing that Lastpilot used where from another manufacturer, that used a different more brittle material.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 29 July 2015, 18:34:27
I am so excited for this! Thank you for making this happen Zeal!

Not just to find a pcb with the 4 pin socket! :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 29 July 2015, 18:55:20
3.  Is the housing made from different materials than regular MX switches?  And if yes does that pose a problem?  I know that Lastpilot mentioned that when he made a board with transparent housings on the switches he lubed the upper housing because it made for a more silent upstroke (this is not a problem with stock mx housing, lubing the upper housing is irrelevant).
3. Slider is POM, housing is Nylon. Pretty much same materials as Cherry switches. I think the clear housing that Lastpilot used where from another manufacturer, that used a different more brittle material.

QFT. Correct! Those were abostudio tops and were sort of loose and brittle. I haven't had any problem with the gateron tops, they've been really nice and I've done 4 builds with them. ^-^
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 29 July 2015, 20:52:10
Holy ****. This is brilliant. Going to pick up a heap of these for projects.  :cool:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Cameron on Wed, 29 July 2015, 21:09:08
How much are these going to cost though?

Can we expect them to be around the same price point of cherry switches or is it going to be significantly higher?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: ImBZppl on Wed, 29 July 2015, 21:28:05
I need these for my future smart 68 :eek:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 July 2015, 21:33:15
How much are these going to cost though?

Can we expect them to be around the same price point of cherry switches or is it going to be significantly higher?

It will be priced higher than Cherry switches, but under $1. Pricing is still being finalized.
Title: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 29 July 2015, 21:47:20
How much are these going to cost though?

Can we expect them to be around the same price point of cherry switches or is it going to be significantly higher?

It will be priced higher than Cherry switches, but under $1. Pricing is still being finalized.
I would also like to point out that these come with gold springs in them already, and with clear tops, so the higher pricing makes sense. I also missed the clear bottoms
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 29 July 2015, 22:25:08
I'm ready for this
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KatzenKinder on Wed, 29 July 2015, 22:33:00
Oh my god... COUNT ME IN.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Dodgy on Wed, 29 July 2015, 22:48:38
I'm about to do a build- I'll take samples  :D

No way I'm going to miss this GB.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: ileben on Wed, 29 July 2015, 23:12:13
So I'm a bit new here. What does this mean for the future, is this going to be available only withing a GB, or is it possible that a manufacturer would pick these up and put them in a keyboard?

In other words, how would I ago about acquiring a keyboard with these. I have 0 soldering skills and I don't wanna buy a random pcb mounted kb just to be able to open the switches and replace the spring (I prefer plate mounted) so ergo-clear is not possible for me.

Can I pay someone to make me one? :) I NEED more MX tactility in my life, browns are not enough.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 29 July 2015, 23:18:26
So I'm a bit new here. What does this mean for the future, is this going to be available only withing a GB, or is it possible that a manufacturer would pick these up and put them in a keyboard?

In other words, how would I ago about acquiring a keyboard with these. I have 0 soldering skills and I don't wanna buy a random pcb mounted kb just to be able to open the switches and replace the spring (I prefer plate mounted) so ergo-clear is not possible for me.

Can I pay someone to make me one? :) I NEED more MX tactility in my life, browns are not enough.

Switches will likely be kept in constantly replenishing supply at Zeal's store and will only be sold officially through there and nowhere else.
I don't expect them to be picked up by any manufacturer so you would need to get someone to solder these in for you.

These switches have stock 62g springs meaning that they are already ergo clears.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 29 July 2015, 23:40:36
So I'm a bit new here. What does this mean for the future, is this going to be available only withing a GB, or is it possible that a manufacturer would pick these up and put them in a keyboard?

In other words, how would I ago about acquiring a keyboard with these. I have 0 soldering skills and I don't wanna buy a random pcb mounted kb just to be able to open the switches and replace the spring (I prefer plate mounted) so ergo-clear is not possible for me.

Can I pay someone to make me one? :) I NEED more MX tactility in my life, browns are not enough.

Switches will likely be kept in constantly replenishing supply at Zeal's store and will only be sold officially through there and nowhere else.
I don't expect them to be picked up by any manufacturer so you would need to get someone to solder these in for you.

These switches have stock 62g springs meaning that they are already ergo clears.

Yeah, what Frosty said.

To add; PCB mounted switches turn into plate mounted with the snip of some clippers. The difference is just two tiny plastic legs that you can clip off. I only had highschool soldering experience from 10+ years ago and soldering up my first KB was one of the funnest things I've done in the past few years :D
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: nmur on Wed, 29 July 2015, 23:44:38
oh my god

this means we can probably eventually have 60% boards with RGB ergo clears....
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: ileben on Thu, 30 July 2015, 00:10:08
So I'm a bit new here. What does this mean for the future, is this going to be available only withing a GB, or is it possible that a manufacturer would pick these up and put them in a keyboard?

In other words, how would I ago about acquiring a keyboard with these. I have 0 soldering skills and I don't wanna buy a random pcb mounted kb just to be able to open the switches and replace the spring (I prefer plate mounted) so ergo-clear is not possible for me.

Can I pay someone to make me one? :) I NEED more MX tactility in my life, browns are not enough.

Switches will likely be kept in constantly replenishing supply at Zeal's store and will only be sold officially through there and nowhere else.
I don't expect them to be picked up by any manufacturer so you would need to get someone to solder these in for you.

These switches have stock 62g springs meaning that they are already ergo clears.

Thanks for the info. Yep, I understand these are already ergo clears, what I meant was if I could do it to a plate mounted board without desoldering I'd go that way, but since I'd need to desolder I can't do it. Well, looks like if these aren't picked up by a board manufacturer I will have to learn soldering either way. Time to learn a new skill :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Evo_Spec on Thu, 30 July 2015, 01:59:31
Welp! looks like i'm gonna need to start getting some money in my PayPal.....
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 30 July 2015, 02:34:11


2. It's the same other than the cross-stem. However, you can expect a smoother feeling that we all appreciate from Gateron. I'm not too sure what you mean by shaving the slider...that would make it rougher.


I'm sorry but I don't understand then, what is it that's different about the switch then that makes is smoother than stock cherry?  Is it because of the springs ?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 30 July 2015, 03:36:43
2. It's the same other than the cross-stem. However, you can expect a smoother feeling that we all appreciate from Gateron. I'm not too sure what you mean by shaving the slider...that would make it rougher.


I'm sorry but I don't understand then, what is it that's different about the switch then that makes is smoother than stock cherry?  Is it because of the springs ?

Newer / smoother / better made molds = smoother plastic parts that are made. If you've ever done some fancy chocolate art making, you'd know that layering melted chocolate on a shiny stainless bowl will result in a shiny chocolate semi-sphere on the inside. If the surface of the bowl was scratched up and matte, the chocolate would form a matte and rough surface.

Same concept goes to molds and injected plastic. The switch molds created today are newer and should be smoother than old Cherry molds that Cherry has reused for decades.

The surface finish of the metal leaf on Cherry/Gateron bottom housings could be different as well. The leaf plays a huge role in whether a switch feels smooth or not. There's a bunch of possible factors that could also lead to a smoother Gateron switch.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 30 July 2015, 07:51:03
2. It's the same other than the cross-stem. However, you can expect a smoother feeling that we all appreciate from Gateron. I'm not too sure what you mean by shaving the slider...that would make it rougher.


I'm sorry but I don't understand then, what is it that's different about the switch then that makes is smoother than stock cherry?  Is it because of the springs ?

Newer / smoother / better made molds = smoother plastic parts that are made. If you've ever done some fancy chocolate art making, you'd know that layering melted chocolate on a shiny stainless bowl will result in a shiny chocolate semi-sphere on the inside. If the surface of the bowl was scratched up and matte, the chocolate would form a matte and rough surface.

Same concept goes to molds and injected plastic. The switch molds created today are newer and should be smoother than old Cherry molds that Cherry has reused for decades.

The surface finish of the metal leaf on Cherry/Gateron bottom housings could be different as well. The leaf plays a huge role in whether a switch feels smooth or not. There's a bunch of possible factors that could also lead to a smoother Gateron switch.

Sweet! Thanks for info, will definitely buy :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: filphil on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:21:52
Will these switches have a high actuation point compared to cherry?  For some reason that bothers me about all the other Gateron switches and, on paper, doesn't sound like my preference.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:25:27
Will these switches have a high actuation point compared to cherry?  For some reason that bothers me about all the other Gateron switches and, on paper, doesn't sound like my preference.

Really I don't notice it at all when switching between gaterons and cherries.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:26:44
Agreed with azhdar, the actuation point as I remember it on Gaterons isn't different from Cherry.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:27:10
Will these switches have a high actuation point compared to cherry?  For some reason that bothers me about all the other Gateron switches and, on paper, doesn't sound like my preference.
Gaterons have the same actuation point as cherry, don't they?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: strict on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:35:00
I'm using two Dell SK-8115's. One at home, one at work. I win. :))

I've long said if I were going to go back to "normal" keyboards it would either be the SK-8115 or the SK-8135. IMO they're some of the best rubber dome membrane boards.

As far as the actual topic at hand, are these "Zealio" switches made by Gateron? Can we expect a similar level of smoothness found in their linear switches except with the tactility of a Cherry Clear stem? If so, I can see myself ordering wayyy too many of these  :))
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 30 July 2015, 09:58:44
I'm using two Dell SK-8115's. One at home, one at work. I win. :))

I've long said if I were going to go back to "normal" keyboards it would either be the SK-8115 or the SK-8135. IMO they're some of the best rubber dome membrane boards.

As far as the actual topic at hand, are these "Zealio" switches made by Gateron? Can we expect a similar level of smoothness found in their linear switches except with the tactility of a Cherry Clear stem? If so, I can see myself ordering wayyy too many of these  :))

Tactility is modeled after the Cherry MX Clear stem. Yes, Gateron and I partnered up to have these switches exclusively made for me.

I've decided to wait another week before receiving samples so Gateron could make the bottoms PCB mount (forgot to mention that when the tooling was being made...Oops). Sorry for the wait guys!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 30 July 2015, 10:00:41
I'm using two Dell SK-8115's. One at home, one at work. I win. :))

I've long said if I were going to go back to "normal" keyboards it would either be the SK-8115 or the SK-8135. IMO they're some of the best rubber dome membrane boards.

As far as the actual topic at hand, are these "Zealio" switches made by Gateron? Can we expect a similar level of smoothness found in their linear switches except with the tactility of a Cherry Clear stem? If so, I can see myself ordering wayyy too many of these  :))

Tactility is modeled after the Cherry MX Clear stem. Yes, Gateron and I partnered up to have these switches exclusively made for me.

I've decided to wait another week before receiving samples so Gateron could make the bottoms PCB mount (forgot to mention that when the tooling was being made...Oops). Sorry for the wait guys!
will the pcb bottoms work like cherry ones, or will they be like stock gateron

Edit: I actually only heard about this and never tried it. After trying it, they seem to work, sorry
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 30 July 2015, 10:29:52
Some aftermarket PCB manufacturers choose to make their PCB holes a tiny bit smaller for a snugger PCB mount feel. Due to manufacturing tolerances, this can sometimes make the Gateron PCB mount seem too tight. I've brought this issue up to Gateron as well, and they'll try to make the microfins a tiny bit smaller. However too small, and some PCBs may be too loose for the switches.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 10:31:22
Some aftermarket PCB manufacturers choose to make their PCB holes a tiny bit smaller for a snugger PCB mount feel. Due to manufacturing tolerances, this can sometimes make the Gateron PCB mount seem too tight. I've brought this issue up to Gateron as well, and they'll try to make the microfins a tiny bit smaller. However too small, and some PCBs may be too loose for the switches.

You can always ream out tight PCB holes. Makes more sense to keep the switches standard, as it's harder to add material to a switch bottom than to take it away from a PCB.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 30 July 2015, 10:44:55
Some aftermarket PCB manufacturers choose to make their PCB holes a tiny bit smaller for a snugger PCB mount feel. Due to manufacturing tolerances, this can sometimes make the Gateron PCB mount seem too tight. I've brought this issue up to Gateron as well, and they'll try to make the microfins a tiny bit smaller. However too small, and some PCBs may be too loose for the switches.

You can always ream out tight PCB holes. Makes more sense to keep the switches standard, as it's harder to add material to a switch bottom than to take it away from a PCB.

Agreed. Easier to make a hole larger, not smaller.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 30 July 2015, 11:04:39
I don't know if this was asked but:

1. Are these pre-lubed in anyway?

2. Cherry mx switches had a little wiggle between the top and bottom halves. Gateron has less wiggle. How do these purple switches compare?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 30 July 2015, 11:30:12
I don't know if this was asked but:

1. Are these pre-lubed in anyway?

2. Cherry mx switches had a little wiggle between the top and bottom halves. Gateron has less wiggle. How do these purple switches compare?

Thanks.

It will only come stock factory lubed on the legs like every other switch (both Gateron and Cherry). Lubing ergoclears is subjective, and everyone has their own tastes on where to apply lube, and how thick the lube should be. I've left that for the end users to decide and mod.

Given that these switches are manufactured by Gateron, you can expect the little to no wiggle room between the two halves.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Invaderevan on Thu, 30 July 2015, 12:17:41
I don't know if this was asked but:

1. Are these pre-lubed in anyway?

2. Cherry mx switches had a little wiggle between the top and bottom halves. Gateron has less wiggle. How do these purple switches compare?

Thanks.

It will only come stock factory lubed on the legs like every other switch (both Gateron and Cherry). Lubing ergoclears is subjective, and everyone has their own tastes on where to apply lube, and how thick the lube should be. I've left that for the end users to decide and mod.

Given that these switches are manufactured by Gateron, you can expect the little to no wiggle room between the two halves.

would that make stickering these kinda useless? other than cosmetic i guess
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 30 July 2015, 12:36:42
I don't know if this was asked but:

1. Are these pre-lubed in anyway?

2. Cherry mx switches had a little wiggle between the top and bottom halves. Gateron has less wiggle. How do these purple switches compare?

Thanks.

It will only come stock factory lubed on the legs like every other switch (both Gateron and Cherry). Lubing ergoclears is subjective, and everyone has their own tastes on where to apply lube, and how thick the lube should be. I've left that for the end users to decide and mod.

Given that these switches are manufactured by Gateron, you can expect the little to no wiggle room between the two halves.

would that make stickering these kinda useless? other than cosmetic i guess

Pretty much. You might even be adding unecessary stress to the housings by adding a film in between.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: nmur on Thu, 30 July 2015, 12:37:14
I don't know if this was asked but:

1. Are these pre-lubed in anyway?

2. Cherry mx switches had a little wiggle between the top and bottom halves. Gateron has less wiggle. How do these purple switches compare?

Thanks.

It will only come stock factory lubed on the legs like every other switch (both Gateron and Cherry). Lubing ergoclears is subjective, and everyone has their own tastes on where to apply lube, and how thick the lube should be. I've left that for the end users to decide and mod.

Given that these switches are manufactured by Gateron, you can expect the little to no wiggle room between the two halves.

would that make stickering these kinda useless? other than cosmetic i guess
imo stickering is considerably more for aesthetics rather than the added rigidity, especially when stem wobble usually overshadows it's benefits anyway. it can even just be a thing to do if you're opening the switches anyway.

I've also just realised that I never thought to buy purple stickers before, because they wouldn't match any stems....
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: digi on Thu, 30 July 2015, 12:37:45
Sorry if this has been asked already and I'm sure it depends on how many switches are ordered but might there be a rough estimate of cost per switch on these? thanks Zeal!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 30 July 2015, 12:38:53
Sorry if this has been asked already and I'm sure it depends on how many switches are ordered but might there be a rough estimate of cost per switch on these? thanks Zeal!

How much are these going to cost though?

Can we expect them to be around the same price point of cherry switches or is it going to be significantly higher?

It will be priced higher than Cherry switches, but under $1. Pricing is still being finalized.


Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: digi on Thu, 30 July 2015, 12:42:06
Sorry if this has been asked already and I'm sure it depends on how many switches are ordered but might there be a rough estimate of cost per switch on these? thanks Zeal!

How much are these going to cost though?

Can we expect them to be around the same price point of cherry switches or is it going to be significantly higher?

It will be priced higher than Cherry switches, but under $1. Pricing is still being finalized.




Thanks CPT. Damn, purple LEDs on these purp switches, gonna be so purp'd out. I'm freaking out maaan!

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m136/juliehenson05/supertroopers.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: cooldiscretion on Thu, 30 July 2015, 13:10:42
Don't know if anyone has asked this yet, but is the switch housing plastic durable?  After ripping multiple stems through
AboStudio switch tops, I would hate to have that happen again with these.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Bloo on Thu, 30 July 2015, 13:24:26
Are there pcbs that support this pin layout or have controllers that can push these leds?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 30 July 2015, 13:40:36
Don't know if anyone has asked this yet, but is the switch housing plastic durable?  After ripping multiple stems through
AboStudio switch tops, I would hate to have that happen again with these.
Gateron switch tops are miles more durable than the brittle abostudio ones. You don't have to worry about ripping the stems out. The purple stems don't have the cross-tightening stem mounts found on Clears, so there really isn't anything to worry about.

Are there pcbs that support this pin layout or have controllers that can push these leds?

There isn't an aftermarket PCB that supports 4pin RGB LEDs yet (it's in the works). However these switches will still be backwards compatible with regular 3mm, 2x3x4mm, 1.8mm LEDs.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: cooldiscretion on Thu, 30 July 2015, 13:53:36
Don't know if anyone has asked this yet, but is the switch housing plastic durable?  After ripping multiple stems through
AboStudio switch tops, I would hate to have that happen again with these.
Gateron switch tops are miles more durable than the brittle abostudio ones. You don't have to worry about ripping the stems out. The purple stems don't have the cross-tightening stem mounts found on Clears, so there really isn't anything to worry about.

Good to know thanks for the quick answer. :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 20:52:58
So, silly question maybe, but when you say these switches will be 4-pin LED compatible, you're talking about 4 thru-holes for the LED to sit on the top of the switch like normal LEDs?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:07:39
So, silly question maybe, but when you say these switches will be 4-pin LED compatible, you're talking about 4 thru-holes for the LED to sit on the top of the switch like normal LEDs?

This variant:
(http://puu.sh/jhAuy/358b98e5b1.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:20:43
So, silly question maybe, but when you say these switches will be 4-pin LED compatible, you're talking about 4 thru-holes for the LED to sit on the top of the switch like normal LEDs?

This variant:
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jhAuy/358b98e5b1.jpg)


OK, so the LEDs will still sit on the switch top, and not just shine through from underneath the clear body?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:49:11
So, silly question maybe, but when you say these switches will be 4-pin LED compatible, you're talking about 4 thru-holes for the LED to sit on the top of the switch like normal LEDs?

This variant:
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jhAuy/358b98e5b1.jpg)


OK, so the LEDs will still sit on the switch top, and not just shine through from underneath the clear body?

Correct.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: filphil on Fri, 31 July 2015, 13:13:32
Will these switches have a high actuation point compared to cherry?  For some reason that bothers me about all the other Gateron switches and, on paper, doesn't sound like my preference.

Really I don't notice it at all when switching between gaterons and cherries.

Agreed with azhdar, the actuation point as I remember it on Gaterons isn't different from Cherry.

Will these switches have a high actuation point compared to cherry?  For some reason that bothers me about all the other Gateron switches and, on paper, doesn't sound like my preference.
Gaterons have the same actuation point as cherry, don't they?

That's my bad guys.

I thought for sure I read that somewhere on here.  In that case that makes me pretty hype for these switches then.  Sucks that I bought maybe 4 or 5 sets of 62g springs though,  :))
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: qwack on Fri, 31 July 2015, 14:26:52
So, silly question maybe, but when you say these switches will be 4-pin LED compatible, you're talking about 4 thru-holes for the LED to sit on the top of the switch like normal LEDs?

This variant:
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jhAuy/358b98e5b1.jpg)


This is going to be glorious. Do you know where to buy this king of RGB LEDs ? I had a RGB controller in the works but put it on hold due to the lack of easy to use LED form factor.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Dihedral on Fri, 31 July 2015, 15:21:19
D-79 with project zealio - this is so, so cool. Wow.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 31 July 2015, 21:48:18
So, silly question maybe, but when you say these switches will be 4-pin LED compatible, you're talking about 4 thru-holes for the LED to sit on the top of the switch like normal LEDs?

This variant:
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jhAuy/358b98e5b1.jpg)


This is going to be glorious. Do you know where to buy this king of RGB LEDs ? I had a RGB controller in the works but put it on hold due to the lack of easy to use LED form factor.

Those types of LEDs are usually only sold to large keyboard OEM's in tens of thousands.  I will be stocking them once a proper RGB LED PCB has been developed.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 31 July 2015, 22:02:27
So whens my review packet coming?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 31 July 2015, 22:23:31
Those types of LEDs are usually only sold to large keyboard OEM's in tens of thousands.  I will be stocking them once a proper RGB LED PCB has been developed.
This explains why I'm not being able to find those LEDs on AliExpress. Maybe Alibaba?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: romevi on Fri, 31 July 2015, 22:28:37
Will these switches have a high actuation point compared to cherry?  For some reason that bothers me about all the other Gateron switches and, on paper, doesn't sound like my preference.

Really I don't notice it at all when switching between gaterons and cherries.

Agreed with azhdar, the actuation point as I remember it on Gaterons isn't different from Cherry.

Will these switches have a high actuation point compared to cherry?  For some reason that bothers me about all the other Gateron switches and, on paper, doesn't sound like my preference.
Gaterons have the same actuation point as cherry, don't they?

That's my bad guys.

I thought for sure I read that somewhere on here.  In that case that makes me pretty hype for these switches then.  Sucks that I bought maybe 4 or 5 sets of 62g springs though,  :))

lol, I just bought a set of 62g springs from Sprit for some Ergo Clears in my Jane, but I think I'm going to put these instead.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: qwack on Sat, 01 August 2015, 18:50:18
Those types of LEDs are usually only sold to large keyboard OEM's in tens of thousands.  I will be stocking them once a proper RGB LED PCB has been developed.

Neat. Thanks.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: rpeterclark on Sat, 01 August 2015, 19:04:35
So, silly question maybe, but when you say these switches will be 4-pin LED compatible, you're talking about 4 thru-holes for the LED to sit on the top of the switch like normal LEDs?

This variant:
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jhAuy/358b98e5b1.jpg)


This is going to be glorious. Do you know where to buy this king of RGB LEDs ? I had a RGB controller in the works but put it on hold due to the lack of easy to use LED form factor.

Those types of LEDs are usually only sold to large keyboard OEM's in tens of thousands.  I will be stocking them once a proper RGB LED PCB has been developed.

But the switches also support the regular 2x3x4mm, 3mm, 1.8mm LEDs that are out there, right?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 01 August 2015, 19:06:15
So, silly question maybe, but when you say these switches will be 4-pin LED compatible, you're talking about 4 thru-holes for the LED to sit on the top of the switch like normal LEDs?

This variant:
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jhAuy/358b98e5b1.jpg)


This is going to be glorious. Do you know where to buy this king of RGB LEDs ? I had a RGB controller in the works but put it on hold due to the lack of easy to use LED form factor.

Those types of LEDs are usually only sold to large keyboard OEM's in tens of thousands.  I will be stocking them once a proper RGB LED PCB has been developed.

But the switches also support the regular 2x3x4mm, 3mm, 1.8mm LEDs that are out there, right?

Correct.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Dihedral on Sun, 02 August 2015, 02:04:10
Gateron Ergo Clears with Gateron Clear Casing.

 :cool:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mtl on Sun, 02 August 2015, 20:59:44
This variant:
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jhAuy/358b98e5b1.jpg)


This is going to be glorious. Do you know where to buy this king of RGB LEDs ? I had a RGB controller in the works but put it on hold due to the lack of easy to use LED form factor.

Those types of LEDs are usually only sold to large keyboard OEM's in tens of thousands.  I will be stocking them once a proper RGB LED PCB has been developed.

In the near term, these (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2x5x5-Rectangular-tri-color-RGB-LED-4pins-Common-Anode-White-Diffused-Lens/800238_636417339.html) may be a little bigger and require bending the pins, but they work alright and are available in smaller quantities.

(http://i.imgur.com/QllpZAS.jpg)

Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: potatowire on Sun, 02 August 2015, 21:10:40
I am definitely in for a at least a hundred of these. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 02 August 2015, 21:13:48
You asked for it, we delivered.

Introducing Project Zealios - 62g gold plated springs in an exclusive custom made Purple "MX Clear" stem. No ErgoBrown Gateron bull**** (cough). This is the real deal. Along with the project was a custom made transparent switch bottom housing to maximize LED lighting. Switch will be compatible with 4-pin RGB LEDs (not pictured). The purple stems have the tight stem cross removed from the original MX Clear stems. No more accidental switch breaking! Yay!

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jh6Mu/3ac26033a2.png)


Oh man.. Those purple stems are beautiful..  :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: animated on Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:24:32
Very nice!

Questions:

1. Was anyone breaking their switches because of the tight stem on the clears?  I didn't see any disadvantage to those fat stem crosses but I liked that it make me feel that my caps weren't loose (I've had some trouble with loose caps, maybe I got a faulty batch of browns), but I won't mind if the stem isn't fat if it doesn't have any advantage to it.


1. Yes, it's a huge problem that's quite widely known. Especially happens on tight keycaps (GMK ABS, Gateron PBT, etc)
If you were using imsto keycaps, those are generally very loose keycaps. That may be why it felt "just right" on MX Clears.
Show Image
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b534/terran5994/10FC8130-01C4-4798-AFEA-232A6CF90CE4-320-0000002ECAE8B10F_zps6a153924.jpg)



Sorry I've been away from the keyboard scene for a couple of months, but Gateron switches break when using GMK ABS and Gateron PBT?

Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:27:54
Very nice!

Questions:

1. Was anyone breaking their switches because of the tight stem on the clears?  I didn't see any disadvantage to those fat stem crosses but I liked that it make me feel that my caps weren't loose (I've had some trouble with loose caps, maybe I got a faulty batch of browns), but I won't mind if the stem isn't fat if it doesn't have any advantage to it.


1. Yes, it's a huge problem that's quite widely known. Especially happens on tight keycaps (GMK ABS, Gateron PBT, etc)
If you were using imsto keycaps, those are generally very loose keycaps. That may be why it felt "just right" on MX Clears.
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b534/terran5994/10FC8130-01C4-4798-AFEA-232A6CF90CE4-320-0000002ECAE8B10F_zps6a153924.jpg) (http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b534/terran5994/10FC8130-01C4-4798-AFEA-232A6CF90CE4-320-0000002ECAE8B10F_zps6a153924.jpg)


Sorry I've been away from the keyboard scene for a couple of months, but Gateron switches break when using GMK ABS and Gateron PBT?



No, cherry mx clear stems tend to hold on to certain keycaps tighter and when you aren't careful removing the keycaps you will pull the stem right out of the switch. In Zeal's reproduction switch in partnership with Gateron they have tried to leave off that aspect of the mx clear stem.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: animated on Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:31:32
Very nice!

Questions:

1. Was anyone breaking their switches because of the tight stem on the clears?  I didn't see any disadvantage to those fat stem crosses but I liked that it make me feel that my caps weren't loose (I've had some trouble with loose caps, maybe I got a faulty batch of browns), but I won't mind if the stem isn't fat if it doesn't have any advantage to it.


1. Yes, it's a huge problem that's quite widely known. Especially happens on tight keycaps (GMK ABS, Gateron PBT, etc)
If you were using imsto keycaps, those are generally very loose keycaps. That may be why it felt "just right" on MX Clears.
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b534/terran5994/10FC8130-01C4-4798-AFEA-232A6CF90CE4-320-0000002ECAE8B10F_zps6a153924.jpg) (http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b534/terran5994/10FC8130-01C4-4798-AFEA-232A6CF90CE4-320-0000002ECAE8B10F_zps6a153924.jpg)


Sorry I've been away from the keyboard scene for a couple of months, but Gateron switches break when using GMK ABS and Gateron PBT?



No, cherry mx clear stems tend to hold on to certain keycaps tighter and when you aren't careful removing the keycaps you will pull the stem right out of the switch. In Zeal's reproduction switch in partnership with Gateron they have tried to leave off that aspect of the mx clear stem.

Thanks for the quick reply SpAmRaY, I was sweating there for a moment. 
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dante on Thu, 06 August 2015, 08:29:14
for the future..
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 12 August 2015, 18:49:55
Gimme GB naow!!!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 12 August 2015, 20:57:48
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dante on Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:03:15
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)

Any thoughts on producing a Gateron "MX Green"?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: theanyday on Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:24:16
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)

Omahgosh I can't wait, I really want to build my gf a keyboard with these. We both love purple and this is absolutely perfect with the color, spring, and clear housing!  ;D :p Can not wait.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: nmur on Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:27:40
I can't decide whether to continue with my current project (60%, already bought switches, leds, stickers, SIP sockets, springs) or ditch it and wait for this to drop...

Leaning towards the latter, because these are pretty sick.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:28:55
It just occurred to me, is this the first time an MX Clear equivalent Gateron switch has been made?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:43:08
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)

hype hype hype hype hype hype hype  :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:47:18
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)

Any thoughts on producing a Gateron "MX Green"?

It already exists. I got a few samples fresh from their production line at the factory, but they were prototyping, and the spring weight wasn't right. I told them about it, so it should be fixed now. I can provide some pics later in the evening.

It just occurred to me, is this the first time an MX Clear equivalent Gateron switch has been made?

Yes. I worked & invested with Gateron to make the improved MX Clear stem. :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 12 August 2015, 22:33:41
Yes. I worked & invested with Gateron to make the improved MX Clear stem. :)
Zeal is the hero we need   :thumb:  :-*
(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Tom-Hardy-Seduction-Wink-Reaction-Gif.gif)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 12 August 2015, 23:19:26
Zeal gimme some zealios so I can put them in a razer board
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Evo_Spec on Thu, 13 August 2015, 00:17:25
Yes. I worked & invested with Gateron to make the improved MX Clear stem. :)
Zeal is the hero we need   :thumb:  :-*

but not the one we deserve
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 13 August 2015, 01:29:49
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)

Any thoughts on producing a Gateron "MX Green"?

(http://i.imgur.com/cf13rzT.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dante on Thu, 13 August 2015, 08:37:31
So what will the Gateron Green switch weight be set at?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jbondeson on Thu, 13 August 2015, 09:11:35
Zeal I really hope you're ready to be buried under the mountain of caps gateron's going to send you when this goes live.  :))
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 13 August 2015, 09:35:03
So what will the Gateron Green switch weight be set at?
They should be similar to regular MX Greens. Gateron Greens weren't my custom order, and I don't have the final product on hand.

Zeal I really hope you're ready to be buried under the mountain of caps gateron's going to send you when this goes live.  :))
Caps? They're switches! ;)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jbondeson on Thu, 13 August 2015, 09:36:15
Caps? They're switches! ;)

 :blank:

Yes, switches... caps on the brain.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dorf on Thu, 13 August 2015, 12:27:19
The more I think about these, the more I want them...
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: 64rky on Thu, 13 August 2015, 16:33:46
Yup,  these are going on my Mira!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: romevi on Thu, 13 August 2015, 17:35:56
Yup,  these are going on my Mira!
That's what I'm doing!

:thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mashby on Thu, 13 August 2015, 17:37:35
Putting these on my ALT 60.  :p
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 13 August 2015, 17:44:56
Yup,  these are going on my Mira!
That's what I'm doing!

:thumb:

me three  :))
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: filphil on Thu, 13 August 2015, 22:30:06
If these are smoother I wonder how will lighter Springs would work
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: ika on Fri, 14 August 2015, 09:03:23
It just occurred to me, is this the first time an MX Clear equivalent Gateron switch has been made?

Well given Gaterons have only been popular for the lesser part of a year, the answer is yes. I think this is the first time MX Clear type switches have been available from anyone other than Cherry.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Skuloth on Fri, 14 August 2015, 10:14:37
Whoa, purple clears is exactly what I didn't know I needed.

Really excited for this!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 14 August 2015, 11:24:14
Wow, it's been a good while since I've dropped by this thread. :D
Amazing to see the progress. Would defo get some for a 60% I've been planning for awhile.
1 q though, will the stock springs be 62g or some other weight? :O
Am very excited! :D
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 14 August 2015, 11:27:53
Wow, it's been a good while since I've dropped by this thread. :D
Amazing to see the progress. Would defo get some for a 60% I've been planning for awhile.
1 q though, will the stock springs be 62g or some other weight? :O
Am very excited! :D

Stock will be 62g gold plated springs.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 14 August 2015, 11:55:24
Wow, it's been a good while since I've dropped by this thread. :D
Amazing to see the progress. Would defo get some for a 60% I've been planning for awhile.
1 q though, will the stock springs be 62g or some other weight? :O
Am very excited! :D

Stock will be 62g gold plated springs.

Sick stuff bro  ;D even more hype now  ;)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Skuloth on Fri, 14 August 2015, 12:14:57
Are there any details about the group buy available yet?

Specifically when?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: nmur on Fri, 14 August 2015, 12:16:58
Are there any details about the group buy available yet?

Specifically when?
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)

Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Phirr on Fri, 14 August 2015, 13:13:23
Is there information on an expected price or is that a secret?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 August 2015, 13:15:40
Is there information on an expected price or is that a secret?

Sorry if this has been asked already and I'm sure it depends on how many switches are ordered but might there be a rough estimate of cost per switch on these? thanks Zeal!

How much are these going to cost though?

Can we expect them to be around the same price point of cherry switches or is it going to be significantly higher?

It will be priced higher than Cherry switches, but under $1. Pricing is still being finalized.


This is what has been posted so far.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Fri, 14 August 2015, 13:17:07
If these are smoother I wonder how will lighter Springs would work

Good question. The smoother slider may prevent the sticking issues some people have had with Ergo Clears.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 14 August 2015, 13:32:08
Package was picked up in China on Thursday afternoon (Wednesday night my time)

Today:
(http://puu.sh/jBxdF/cbe4a68dd1.png)

<3 u DHL
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 14 August 2015, 14:26:51
Are you still taking testers/reviewers?  ;D
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jbondeson on Fri, 14 August 2015, 14:33:15
Are you still taking testers/reviewers?  ;D

Ignore Hoff, just send me 87 and I'll get em all tested for ya!  :cool:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dante on Fri, 14 August 2015, 18:36:30
Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just buy MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 14 August 2015, 18:39:31
Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just bought MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.

100g+ bottom out springs.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dante on Fri, 14 August 2015, 18:45:52
Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just bought MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.

100g+ bottom out springs.

This is probably crazy talk and I'll get laughed at but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Will it be possible to order the switches without the springs for a slight discount?  I see "gold" so I have no idea how much of an effect it will have on price.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 14 August 2015, 18:47:17
Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just bought MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.

100g+ bottom out springs.

This is probably crazy talk and I'll get laughed at but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Will it be possible to order the switches without the springs for a slight discount?  I see "gold" so I have no idea how much of an effect it will have on price.

It wouldn't be possible to order the switches w/o springs, sorry. :( I guess for those spring swappers, you can always resell the springs inside?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dante on Fri, 14 August 2015, 18:53:33
Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just bought MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.

100g+ bottom out springs.

This is probably crazy talk and I'll get laughed at but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Will it be possible to order the switches without the springs for a slight discount?  I see "gold" so I have no idea how much of an effect it will have on price.

It wouldn't be possible to order the switches w/o springs, sorry. :( I guess for those spring swappers, you can always resell the springs inside?

Yes I'm sure some will want them - just won't know how to put a price on them :)  Maybe I can find a keyboard assembler who will take them as a form of currency.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 14 August 2015, 19:17:08
Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just bought MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.

100g+ bottom out springs.

This is probably crazy talk and I'll get laughed at but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Will it be possible to order the switches without the springs for a slight discount?  I see "gold" so I have no idea how much of an effect it will have on price.

It wouldn't be possible to order the switches w/o springs, sorry. :( I guess for those spring swappers, you can always resell the springs inside?

It would actually be really excellent if you sold all the parts to the switches separate.  Taking switches apart to mod them is so annoying.  Of course, figuring out how to do that without risking damages during shipping is a problem...but still, it would make them even more appealing to me.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 14 August 2015, 19:27:28

Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just bought MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.

100g+ bottom out springs.

This is probably crazy talk and I'll get laughed at but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Will it be possible to order the switches without the springs for a slight discount?  I see "gold" so I have no idea how much of an effect it will have on price.

It wouldn't be possible to order the switches w/o springs, sorry. :( I guess for those spring swappers, you can always resell the springs inside?

It would actually be really excellent if you sold all the parts to the switches separate.  Taking switches apart to mod them is so annoying.  Of course, figuring out how to do that without risking damages during shipping is a problem...but still, it would make them even more appealing to me.   :thumb:
I do this with my vintage blacks when I sell them. I put the top and bottom together so the leaf doesn't bend
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 15 August 2015, 00:39:08
Hey guys, pictures incoming. I've been testing out some spring weights and how lubing affects these switches. There /may/ be a possibility that I'll be upping the weight to 65g due to the smoothness of the switches. It gives it a bit more kick and life when lubed! :eek:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: nmur on Sat, 15 August 2015, 00:47:44
Hey guys, pictures incoming. I've been testing out some spring weights and how lubing affects these switches. There /may/ be a possibility that I'll be upping the weight to 65g due to the smoothness of the switches. It gives it a bit more kick and life when lubed! :eek:

Exciting!

Because of the smoothness, is there a potential that a <62g spring could theoretically be used, as it would be less prone to catching on the bump on the way up?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 15 August 2015, 00:59:46
Hey guys, pictures incoming. I've been testing out some spring weights and how lubing affects these switches. There /may/ be a possibility that I'll be upping the weight to 65g due to the smoothness of the switches. It gives it a bit more kick and life when lubed! :eek:

Exciting!

Because of the smoothness, is there a potential that a <62g spring could theoretically be used, as it would be less prone to catching on the bump on the way up?

I don't see why not!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 15 August 2015, 01:37:17
Hey guys, pictures incoming. I've been testing out some spring weights and how lubing affects these switches. There /may/ be a possibility that I'll be upping the weight to 65g due to the smoothness of the switches. It gives it a bit more kick and life when lubed! :eek:

I really can't wait to get my hands on these! I'd be in for a slightly heavier spring!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 15 August 2015, 01:58:20
(http://i.imgur.com/s8u2WAg.gif)(http://i.imgur.com/Ie4LxMx.gif)

Sorry for the wait guys!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 15 August 2015, 02:08:06
(http://i.imgur.com/EJWBoqS.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: donpark on Sat, 15 August 2015, 02:29:10
(http://reactionimage.org/img/gallery/1174804810.jpg)

just to confirm, cherry keycaps will fit on these right?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: joey on Sat, 15 August 2015, 02:35:02
Is the leaf different to other gateron switches? Just wondering about putting the stem/spring into the older milky housing.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Sat, 15 August 2015, 02:35:12
Sorry if I missed it (I'm pretty new around here...) but is it still possible for me to order a set of these, or have I missed out? (also, I have no idea how much a set would be, so there's that...)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sat, 15 August 2015, 02:36:41
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/EJWBoqS.jpg)


So good.  ^-^
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Sent on Sat, 15 August 2015, 02:43:09
Hnnnnngggg. 
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: UTEster750 on Sat, 15 August 2015, 03:20:57
Sorry if I missed it (I'm pretty new around here...) but is it still possible for me to order a set of these, or have I missed out? (also, I have no idea how much a set would be, so there's that...)

Don't stress the group buy hasn't even started yet. Zeal has just got some testing samples for, well testing.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Sat, 15 August 2015, 03:21:46
Sorry if I missed it (I'm pretty new around here...) but is it still possible for me to order a set of these, or have I missed out? (also, I have no idea how much a set would be, so there's that...)

Don't stress the group buy hasn't even started yet. Zeal has just got some testing samples for, well testing.
Awesome! In that case, I definitely want to get in on this when the opportunity arises.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: UTEster750 on Sat, 15 August 2015, 05:18:15
Sorry if I missed it (I'm pretty new around here...) but is it still possible for me to order a set of these, or have I missed out? (also, I have no idea how much a set would be, so there's that...)

Don't stress the group buy hasn't even started yet. Zeal has just got some testing samples for, well testing.
Awesome! In that case, I definitely want to get in on this when the opportunity arises.

Looking to make my first mech, and really want to use these switches in an Ergodox.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: meiosis on Sat, 15 August 2015, 06:25:18
How do these switches compare to topre electrostatic domes? 55g
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 15 August 2015, 07:19:54
DAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMM

Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mashby on Sat, 15 August 2015, 08:34:48
Zeal continues to raise the bar in everything he does. So impressive and can't wait to buy these switches.

(http://i.imgur.com/QVLPeGi.gif+)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dante on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:04:55
I'm confused .... you are showing bags of Gateron Purples already in the photo - does this mean there will be a Gateron Purple V2 down the line - or that you'll get to pick from two options in the GB?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:11:23
I'm confused .... you are showing bags of Gateron Purples already in the photo - does this mean there will be a Gateron Purple V2 down the line - or that you'll get to pick from two options in the GB?
You'll get to pick from two options in the GB. Purple will be tactile, "milky white" (Gateron clear) will be linear.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: HendyZone on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:20:43
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/EJWBoqS.jpg)


Nice one Zeal :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:48:36
I'm gonna have to get a picture of these Zealios in high res and set it as my wallpaper.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 15 August 2015, 11:07:53
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/s8u2WAg.gif)
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Ie4LxMx.gif)


Sorry for the wait guys!

Can I get a few?  :-*
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: ika on Sat, 15 August 2015, 14:00:36
ahhhhhhh i want these so bad... under $1 is a bargain since you don't have to buy clear switch tops or springs aftermarket. really interested to see how a 55g or even a 50g spring would feel in these.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 15 August 2015, 15:17:24
Video below

Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 15 August 2015, 15:49:54

Video below


Maybe that works now
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:01:39
RGB Switch Tops (One on the left) will be used for Zealios. I've tested them with GMK & other thick keycaps, and they do not catch at all!
Yes, the RGB switch tops are a bit "colder" toned.
(http://i.imgur.com/kvDRX9x.jpg)

#ruleofquarters
(http://i.imgur.com/mcp80id.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/7Zs9gsb.jpg)
(sorry for dust  :-[)
(http://i.imgur.com/3BCAl4p.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gjFkFIr.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:04:43
I must admit I was a bit lazy to catch up all the 10 pages of the topic. How will it occur? Will there be a GB or is there a form in one of these pages?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:09:08
Lookin at Zeal's post be like:

(http://i.imgur.com/2jMKAxY.gif)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:18:11
I must admit I was a bit lazy to catch up all the 10 pages of the topic. How will it occur? Will there be a GB or is there a form in one of these pages?

A GB/Pre-order will happen around the end of August.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: wlhlm on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:21:23
RGB Switch Tops (One on the left) will be used for Zealios. I've tested them with GMK & other thick keycaps, and they do not catch at all!
Yes, the RGB switch tops are a bit "colder" toned.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kvDRX9x.jpg)

Is there any change except for the wider slit for LEDs? I can't see any.

What I'm trying to say is, that the Zealios seem to catch or not catch keycaps like any other Gateron MX clone (which personally never had trouble with in my usage).
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:21:46
I must admit I was a bit lazy to catch up all the 10 pages of the topic. How will it occur? Will there be a GB or is there a form in one of these pages?

A GB/Pre-order will happen around the end of August.


Thanks for the catch-up. ;)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:33:57
RGB Switch Tops (One on the left) will be used for Zealios. I've tested them with GMK & other thick keycaps, and they do not catch at all!
Yes, the RGB switch tops are a bit "colder" toned.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kvDRX9x.jpg)

Is there any change except for the wider slit for LEDs? I can't see any.

What I'm trying to say is, that the Zealios seem to catch or not catch keycaps like any other Gateron MX clone (which personally never had trouble with in my usage).

From my testing, stock gateron (milky housing) switch tops as well as clear tops (one on the right) can sometimes catch on bottom row keys such as Ctrl, Alt, etc. when pressed on in the corner/off center. With the RGB tops, this does not happen at all!

There is a bit of modification on the guiders for the slider (top and bottom of the switch top), but I wouldn't be able to pinpoint tell you which one fixed the catching.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KatzenKinder on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:38:48
RGB Switch Tops (One on the left) will be used for Zealios. I've tested them with GMK & other thick keycaps, and they do not catch at all!
Yes, the RGB switch tops are a bit "colder" toned.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kvDRX9x.jpg)

Is there any change except for the wider slit for LEDs? I can't see any.

What I'm trying to say is, that the Zealios seem to catch or not catch keycaps like any other Gateron MX clone (which personally never had trouble with in my usage).

From my testing, stock gateron (milky housing) switch tops as well as clear tops (one on the right) can sometimes catch on bottom row keys such as Ctrl, Alt, etc. when pressed on in the corner/off center. With the RGB tops, this does not happen at all!

There is a bit of modification on the guiders for the slider (top and bottom of the switch top), but I wouldn't be able to pinpoint tell you which one fixed the catching.

Sweeeet! Super pumped for these
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 15 August 2015, 17:09:48
How do these switches compare to topre electrostatic domes? 55g

I have some lubed 55g type-s(silenced) domes and I was wondering the same thing!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: meiosis on Sat, 15 August 2015, 17:10:55

How do these switches compare to topre electrostatic domes? 55g

I have some lubed 55g type-s(silenced) domes and I was wondering the same thing!

Wow that's the end game! Surely these gaterons can't even compare to the feel of cup rubber
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: E3E on Sat, 15 August 2015, 17:48:52
As the first (I think?) community-driven and community member-created switch, this is all so amazing. It's going to give people who always wanted ergos a chance to try them without having to go through the tedious switch tuning. I'm not sure that it'd be practical for me to buy these the first go around since I have enough vintage ergos left over for my next build (but I might for their RGB compatibility!).

Will there be a round 2 group buy or is our only hope to get a lower price on these through this launch GB? Thanks for all your work put into this community, Zeal!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 15 August 2015, 17:56:13
As the first (I think?) community-driven and community member-created switch, this is all so amazing. It's going to give people who always wanted ergos a chance to try them without having to go through the tedious switch tuning. I'm not sure that it'd be practical for me to buy these the first go around since I have enough vintage ergos left over for my next build (but I might for their RGB compatibility!).

Will there be a round 2 group buy or is our only hope to get a lower price on these through this launch GB? Thanks for all your work put into this community, Zeal!

It'll depend on demand. I do plan on keeping these switches in constant stock, but if the demand is high, I don't see a problem with running multiple re-runs of the GB. :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Sat, 15 August 2015, 18:08:25
I need those switches, right now. (Literally: I have 4 PCB's of my prototype 60% keyboard in need of switches and the ****ing Brazilian customs are still holding my Gateron switches from the GB. :( )
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 15 August 2015, 21:21:42
Woops, forgot to show this pcb shot.

Lots of interesting things can be done...
(http://i.imgur.com/7xnm9NB.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Sat, 15 August 2015, 22:47:03
Woops, forgot to show this pcb shot.

Lots of interesting things can be done...
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/7xnm9NB.jpg)

Is that PCB fully programmable? Like, including media keys? If it is, can I buy it at the time that the GB happens? Because I would love to...
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 15 August 2015, 22:51:11
Woops, forgot to show this pcb shot.

Lots of interesting things can be done...
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/7xnm9NB.jpg)

Is that PCB fully programmable? Like, including media keys? If it is, can I buy it at the time that the GB happens? Because I would love to...

The PCB isn't part of the GB. I just picked out one of my unassembled keyboards from my pile and did a photoshoot. :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Sat, 15 August 2015, 23:00:06
Woops, forgot to show this pcb shot.

Lots of interesting things can be done...
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/7xnm9NB.jpg)

Is that PCB fully programmable? Like, including media keys? If it is, can I buy it at the time that the GB happens? Because I would love to...
Oh well, guess I'll have to find a board for myself then :P (maybe I'll go and design one!!! though the first few(hundred) would suck, since I know nothing about it at this point...

The PCB isn't part of the GB. I just picked out one of my unassembled keyboards from my pile and did a photoshoot. :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: SadisticReap on Sun, 16 August 2015, 00:37:31
I am so jumping in on this GB when it is available. These along with the TK-78 are gonna make a beautiful DD for me.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 16 August 2015, 03:14:57
As I asked whether they would be lubed or not in the mail thread I come back here. Do you think it would be possible to include lube in this GB as well like Krytox (don't remember the exact reference)?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Karura on Sun, 16 August 2015, 03:16:14
Aww yeeee
(http://i.imgur.com/0zEL0MM.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: maximusprimate on Sun, 16 August 2015, 09:17:43
Not sure if this has been asked yet, but is there any chance of selling just the sliders (sans spring and housing) for a smaller price?  If so, how do you think they would fit in a Cherry/Gateron housing?  I'll probably end up getting a bunch of these switches either way, but if I could save a buck I would.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 16 August 2015, 09:32:11
As I asked whether they would be lubed or not in the mail thread I come back here. Do you think it would be possible to include lube in this GB as well like Krytox (don't remember the exact reference)?
I still have a few GH lube kits left over. I'll definitely be asking mkawa about supplying some more Krytox for these switches. 

Aww yeeee
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0zEL0MM.jpg)

Bon voyage. :)

Not sure if this has been asked yet, but is there any chance of selling just the sliders (sans spring and housing) for a smaller price?  If so, how do you think they would fit in a Cherry/Gateron housing?  I'll probably end up getting a bunch of these switches either way, but if I could save a buck I would.

The sliders will fit in Cherry/Gateron housings no problem, but Gateron wouldn't want to be selling the sliders individually. They prefer manufacturing products as a "package".
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dante on Sun, 16 August 2015, 09:37:09
Help me out here - Gateron's are already smooth enough.  Why add lube?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 16 August 2015, 09:38:22
Help me out here - Gateron's are already smooth enough.  Why add lube?

So you can experience this
(http://images.ridemonkey.com/index.php?size=full&src=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic1.gamespot.com%2Fuploads%2Foriginal%2F255%2F2550934%2F2810668-4705265834-mind-.gif)

Like I said, if the user thinks it's smooth enough, then by all means this will replace all the tedious work required to make ergo clears. But for the enthusiasts that want the best of the best, they'll open the switches up and lube em. :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dante on Sun, 16 August 2015, 10:00:13
Like I said, if the user thinks it's smooth enough, then by all means this will replace all the tedious work required to make ergo clears. But for the enthusiasts that want the best of the best, they'll open the switches up and lube em. :)

Yes but some typing will help wear down the stems as well.  If these get put in an "end game" keyboard that is used 8-10 hours a day every day the results should be fairly close after a year or so.

I just think it is confusing to folks after hearing how smooth Gaterons are compared to their Cherry counterparts and yet people are still adding lube.  Sounds similar to Chinese hot peppers - can't get enough I suppose. :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jerue on Sun, 16 August 2015, 12:05:53
These need to go in my Poker 2. Can't wait for the GB!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 16 August 2015, 13:10:42
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/EJWBoqS.jpg)


amazing!   :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: strict on Sun, 16 August 2015, 14:30:24
I'm prepared to replace 2 keyboards worth of clear switches for these. My biggest complaint with clears has always been the scratchiness, if these are really that smooth I will be buying lots of them!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 16 August 2015, 19:02:18
I will be excited to see how these compare to worn clears. They are currently my favorite switch
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: awhitedev on Sun, 16 August 2015, 19:35:32
Will lube be available for purchase with this buy?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: ika on Sun, 16 August 2015, 19:39:05
So what's the deal with the RGB LED compatibility? Four holes in the switch bottom? Do 3mm (or whatever) in-switch RGB LEDs exist? What else is required for full control of the "RGB" part, an LED driver and support baked into the PCB? Was the 4-pin LED pictured by Zeal, the ones he said he would be stocking after PCB support is added, a 1.8mm LED?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: DrHubblePhD on Sun, 16 August 2015, 19:59:56
I think Zeal would like to stop answering the same questions multiple times, please refer to the past couple of pages or search the thread first before posting a question  :thumb:  :p
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Sun, 16 August 2015, 20:14:47
I think Zeal would like to stop answering the same questions multiple times, please refer to the past couple of pages or search the thread first before posting a question  :thumb:  :p

You sound like someone who's run a GB before.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Mon, 17 August 2015, 02:10:18
I think Zeal would like to stop answering the same questions multiple times, please refer to the past couple of pages or search the thread first before posting a question  :thumb:  :p

You sound like someone who's run a GB before.

It might be nice if the first post included a FAQ? I know that when I asked my first questions, I was in a bit of a rush, so I didn't want to read through the whole thread... (I have now though, so I'm all caught up!)
 
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 17 August 2015, 02:11:25

Will lube be available for purchase with this buy?
 

As I asked whether they would be lubed or not in the mail thread I come back here. Do you think it would be possible to include lube in this GB as well like Krytox (don't remember the exact reference)?
I still have a few GH lube kits left over. I'll definitely be asking mkawa about supplying some more Krytox for these switches. 
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Sed8op8 on Mon, 17 August 2015, 06:17:40
I will be excited to see how these compare to worn clears. They are currently my favorite switch
THIS^^^^ Very excited for these and will be buying some regardless of the outcome however due to gatetrons already smooth feel I'm very interested to see how these compare to a nicely lubed cherry ergo with identical weighted springs.

I'm not sure if comparing a new switch to worn clears would be exactly fair(unless it was a worn zealios switch) but I'm interested all the same  :eek:

Zeal or any other reviewers out there care to lube some zealios up and compare them to there cherry ergo brethren !

Thanks everyone involved !!!!!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 17 August 2015, 07:08:02
I think Zeal would like to stop answering the same questions multiple times, please refer to the past couple of pages or search the thread first before posting a question  :thumb:  :p

But why male models?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 17 August 2015, 14:08:33
So what's the deal with the RGB LED compatibility? Four holes in the switch bottom? Do 3mm (or whatever) in-switch RGB LEDs exist? What else is required for full control of the "RGB" part, an LED driver and support baked into the PCB? Was the 4-pin LED pictured by Zeal, the ones he said he would be stocking after PCB support is added, a 1.8mm LED?

A special PCB will be designed to support RGB LEDs. No, the 4-pin LED I showed in the previous post is not an 1.8mm LED.
1.8mm leds look like this (http://www.newmodellersshop.co.uk/images/miniture-1.8-white-led.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 17 August 2015, 14:19:25
Ok Class, time for some keyboard science. :))

When I first took this comparison shot, it appeared that Gateron Purples had less of an "indent" during resting position of the switch.
(http://puu.sh/jCT0V/66e1c339e5.jpg)

But I was telling myself it's the darker colour & lubricant giving off that illusion.

So.....Today I cut off a leg... A Cherry Clear leg. :eek: (Excuse the dust, it took around 30minutes to have the legs aligned. :( Lots of touching involved)

(http://i.imgur.com/32etWQb.jpg)

Crop:
(http://puu.sh/jESbt/822c34ca6a.jpg)

Purposely moved the clear leg a bit back to compare the bump & slopes. Mind you, it's very hard to make fine adjustments by hand when you're dealing with fractions of a millimeter!
(http://i.imgur.com/peu2Szz.jpg)

Crop (Oh my, look at those mini bumps on the clear stem :)))
(http://puu.sh/jESbW/fff644c82a.jpg)

In Conclusion, the slopes and bumps are the same. The plastic is just that much smoother that I will most likely be upping the weight to replicate "vintage" ergo clears.


Just for fun. Sorry, Cherry Fans.
(http://i.imgur.com/zmePuFf.jpg)

Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Mon, 17 August 2015, 15:35:15
Ok Class, time for some keyboard science. :))
I'm really liking the looks of those so far. Let us order them already!!! :P
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: ika on Mon, 17 August 2015, 17:07:55
Personally I would like to stick with the 62g weight, or even a lighter weight, to make it closer to Browns with a bigger bump. Would be great if both switch weights would be available, but not sure how feasible that is.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dante on Mon, 17 August 2015, 19:32:47
This thread needs less masturbation - more order taking.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: awhitedev on Mon, 17 August 2015, 19:51:07
I think sometimes a heavier spring results in a better feeling travel. I'm not talking super heavy or anything but 65-72g... in that range. you can really appreciate the smoothness. When it's too light the key bottoms out too easily and you can't really feel just how smooth it was. Just one man's opinion anyways. \_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 18 August 2015, 03:26:24
Perhaps we could order the stem, housing and springs separately for those willing to have a different weight. Would it be doable Zeal?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 18 August 2015, 04:00:28
Perhaps we could order the stem, housing and springs separately for those willing to have a different weight. Would it be doable Zeal?
Not sure if this has been asked yet, but is there any chance of selling just the sliders (sans spring and housing) for a smaller price?  If so, how do you think they would fit in a Cherry/Gateron housing?  I'll probably end up getting a bunch of these switches either way, but if I could save a buck I would.

The sliders will fit in Cherry/Gateron housings no problem, but Gateron wouldn't want to be selling the sliders individually. They prefer manufacturing products as a "package".
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 18 August 2015, 04:03:21
Perhaps we could order the stem, housing and springs separately for those willing to have a different weight. Would it be doable Zeal?
Not sure if this has been asked yet, but is there any chance of selling just the sliders (sans spring and housing) for a smaller price?  If so, how do you think they would fit in a Cherry/Gateron housing?  I'll probably end up getting a bunch of these switches either way, but if I could save a buck I would.

The sliders will fit in Cherry/Gateron housings no problem, but Gateron wouldn't want to be selling the sliders individually. They prefer manufacturing products as a "package".
Thanks but then will gateron be shipping the switches with the gold plated springs or will Zeal perform the swap by himself? In the last case perhaps he can offer not to swap them and sell springs on the side so people could pickup the weight they'd want.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 18 August 2015, 04:05:52
Perhaps we could order the stem, housing and springs separately for those willing to have a different weight. Would it be doable Zeal?
Not sure if this has been asked yet, but is there any chance of selling just the sliders (sans spring and housing) for a smaller price?  If so, how do you think they would fit in a Cherry/Gateron housing?  I'll probably end up getting a bunch of these switches either way, but if I could save a buck I would.

The sliders will fit in Cherry/Gateron housings no problem, but Gateron wouldn't want to be selling the sliders individually. They prefer manufacturing products as a "package".
Thanks but then will gateron be shipping the switches with the gold plated springs or will Zeal perform the swap by himself? In the last case perhaps he can offer not to swap them and sell springs on the side so people could pickup the weight they'd want.

lol no Zeal ain't gonna swap each spring himself. Gateron has the springs.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 18 August 2015, 04:07:18
Perhaps we could order the stem, housing and springs separately for those willing to have a different weight. Would it be doable Zeal?
Not sure if this has been asked yet, but is there any chance of selling just the sliders (sans spring and housing) for a smaller price?  If so, how do you think they would fit in a Cherry/Gateron housing?  I'll probably end up getting a bunch of these switches either way, but if I could save a buck I would.

The sliders will fit in Cherry/Gateron housings no problem, but Gateron wouldn't want to be selling the sliders individually. They prefer manufacturing products as a "package".
Thanks but then will gateron be shipping the switches with the gold plated springs or will Zeal perform the swap by himself? In the last case perhaps he can offer not to swap them and sell springs on the side so people could pickup the weight they'd want.

lol no Zeal ain't gonna swap each spring himself. Gateron has the springs.
Fair enough. I wonder if he could offer different spring weight for the buy but I guess it would be harder to meet MOQ then if there is one.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: strict on Tue, 18 August 2015, 08:33:13
Without having felt them, I would lean toward sticking with 62g. When I was playing around with ergoclears I thought that spring weight gave the best feel. I'll pretty much trust whatever zeal decides though  :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Sed8op8 on Tue, 18 August 2015, 09:29:56
Without having felt them, I would lean toward sticking with 62g. When I was playing around with ergoclears I thought that spring weight gave the best feel. I'll pretty much trust whatever zeal decides though  :thumb:
62g springs are the stereo typical ones for ergos and don't get me wrong I love that weighting however 65g and 67g are my faves. It's not much of a difference but I've found those to feel a little smoother with the increased weight. As strict said though I'll be happy with zeals choice! So much hype  :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: BigTinz on Tue, 18 August 2015, 15:36:28
65g tactile plz.

Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 August 2015, 17:40:55
(http://i.imgur.com/xI7VCkS.jpg)
First impressions

(http://i.imgur.com/pGQaDSj.jpg)

A1 = 62g Linear Zealio
B1 = 62g stock Zealio
B2 = 65g stock Zealio
B3 = 67g stock Zealio
C1 = 62g lubed Zealio
C2 = 65g lubed Zealio
C3 = 67g lubed Zealio

A1 = Nope. Too light. Feels nice and smooth like a linear Gateron though
B1 = First time I tried a 62g Clear that wasn't sticky and didn't have any issues.
B2 = See above
B3 = Reminds me of my worn MX Clears at work. Well...at least the weight.
C1 = The bump feels more connected. Like it's one motion instead of two. Starting to convince me that previous 62g modded clears I've tried were a bust compared to this.
C2 = Might be my new favorite modded MX-mount "Clear" switch
C3 = Ugh I can't pick between this or C2

First thought I had was that all the modded MX Clears I tried were supposed to feel like this. Other than stock MX Clear and Panda Clears. 62g, 65g, and 67g never felt so good.

I'll do a better review later. I've got like 10 minutes of play time with these switches so far. I'm starting to feel more and more that Cherry MX is meh. Gateron and Greetech are becoming more interesting to me the more I play with them.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 18 August 2015, 17:51:14

First impressions

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/pGQaDSj.jpg)


C1 = The bump feels more connected. Like it's one motion instead of two. Starting to convince me that previous 62g modded clears I've tried were a bust compared to this.
C2 = Might be my new favorite modded MX-mount "Clear" switch
C3 = Ugh I can't pick between this or C2


C1 - Agreed, feels like one smooth motion. No bumpy roads or drops. Perhaps a new replacement for vintage browns? (haven't tested v. browns myself)

C2/C3 - Exactly my thoughts on 65g vs 67g lubed Zealios. Very tough decision... May be favouring 65g a tiny bit more though.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: awhitedev on Tue, 18 August 2015, 18:40:51
Other than stock MX Clear and Panda Clears. 62g, 65g, and 67g never felt so good.

I really like my lubed Panda Clears but I always thought they were a tad too heavy. How do these stack up?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Karura on Tue, 18 August 2015, 19:23:51
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xI7VCkS.jpg)

First impressions

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/pGQaDSj.jpg)

A1 = 62g Linear Zealio
B1 = 62g stock Zealio
B2 = 65g stock Zealio
B3 = 67g stock Zealio
C1 = 62g lubed Zealio
C2 = 65g lubed Zealio
C3 = 67g lubed Zealio

A1 = Nope. Too light. Feels nice and smooth like a linear Gateron though
B1 = First time I tried a 62g Clear that wasn't sticky and didn't have any issues.
B2 = See above
B3 = Reminds me of my worn MX Clears at work. Well...at least the weight.
C1 = The bump feels more connected. Like it's one motion instead of two. Starting to convince me that previous 62g modded clears I've tried were a bust compared to this.
C2 = Might be my new favorite modded MX-mount "Clear" switch
C3 = Ugh I can't pick between this or C2

First thought I had was that all the modded MX Clears I tried were supposed to feel like this. Other than stock MX Clear and Panda Clears. 62g, 65g, and 67g never felt so good.

I'll do a better review later. I've got like 10 minutes of play time with these switches so far. I'm starting to feel more and more that Cherry MX is meh. Gateron and Greetech are becoming more interesting to me the more I play with them.

Nice writeup. I definitely like lubed 65g the best from my tests, but would prefer to have 67g in my personal keyboard due to preferring 67g springs. 67g feels more like proper worn-in clears with a smoother, less pronounced bump.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 18 August 2015, 19:39:03
Other than stock MX Clear and Panda Clears. 62g, 65g, and 67g never felt so good.

I really like my lubed Panda Clears but I always thought they were a tad too heavy. How do these stack up?

I still really like Panda Clears but I think the 67g would fit you better. Give me a little while to play with these switches. I'll make a Panda Clear outta these and report back.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 18 August 2015, 22:15:10
I'll do a better review later. I've got like 10 minutes of play time with these switches so far. I'm starting to feel more and more that Cherry MX is meh. Gateron and Greetech are becoming more interesting to me the more I play with them.

Probably Cherry sticking with the tried and tested 6 or 7 standard switch types, and the newcomers experimenting with different options.

Large established keyboard manufacturers with established relationships with Cherry will most likely stick with Cherry, but smaller players might very well seek the Gaterons and Greetech switches to provide something new to their clients.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 05:14:03
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xI7VCkS.jpg)

First impressions

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/pGQaDSj.jpg)

A1 = 62g Linear Zealio
B1 = 62g stock Zealio
B2 = 65g stock Zealio
B3 = 67g stock Zealio
C1 = 62g lubed Zealio
C2 = 65g lubed Zealio
C3 = 67g lubed Zealio

A1 = Nope. Too light. Feels nice and smooth like a linear Gateron though
B1 = First time I tried a 62g Clear that wasn't sticky and didn't have any issues.
B2 = See above
B3 = Reminds me of my worn MX Clears at work. Well...at least the weight.
C1 = The bump feels more connected. Like it's one motion instead of two. Starting to convince me that previous 62g modded clears I've tried were a bust compared to this.
C2 = Might be my new favorite modded MX-mount "Clear" switch
C3 = Ugh I can't pick between this or C2

First thought I had was that all the modded MX Clears I tried were supposed to feel like this. Other than stock MX Clear and Panda Clears. 62g, 65g, and 67g never felt so good.

I'll do a better review later. I've got like 10 minutes of play time with these switches so far. I'm starting to feel more and more that Cherry MX is meh. Gateron and Greetech are becoming more interesting to me the more I play with them.

65/67g seems like a sweet spot for this switch. :O
Gah, the wait  :-X
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Sed8op8 on Wed, 19 August 2015, 07:08:25
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xI7VCkS.jpg)

First impressions

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/pGQaDSj.jpg)

A1 = 62g Linear Zealio
B1 = 62g stock Zealio
B2 = 65g stock Zealio
B3 = 67g stock Zealio
C1 = 62g lubed Zealio
C2 = 65g lubed Zealio
C3 = 67g lubed Zealio

A1 = Nope. Too light. Feels nice and smooth like a linear Gateron though
B1 = First time I tried a 62g Clear that wasn't sticky and didn't have any issues.
B2 = See above
B3 = Reminds me of my worn MX Clears at work. Well...at least the weight.
C1 = The bump feels more connected. Like it's one motion instead of two. Starting to convince me that previous 62g modded clears I've tried were a bust compared to this.
C2 = Might be my new favorite modded MX-mount "Clear" switch
C3 = Ugh I can't pick between this or C2

First thought I had was that all the modded MX Clears I tried were supposed to feel like this. Other than stock MX Clear and Panda Clears. 62g, 65g, and 67g never felt so good.

I'll do a better review later. I've got like 10 minutes of play time with these switches so far. I'm starting to feel more and more that Cherry MX is meh. Gateron and Greetech are becoming more interesting to me the more I play with them.

65/67g seems like a sweet spot for this switch. :O
Gah, the wait  :-X

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xI7VCkS.jpg)

First impressions

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/pGQaDSj.jpg)

A1 = 62g Linear Zealio
B1 = 62g stock Zealio
B2 = 65g stock Zealio
B3 = 67g stock Zealio
C1 = 62g lubed Zealio
C2 = 65g lubed Zealio
C3 = 67g lubed Zealio

A1 = Nope. Too light. Feels nice and smooth like a linear Gateron though
B1 = First time I tried a 62g Clear that wasn't sticky and didn't have any issues.
B2 = See above
B3 = Reminds me of my worn MX Clears at work. Well...at least the weight.
C1 = The bump feels more connected. Like it's one motion instead of two. Starting to convince me that previous 62g modded clears I've tried were a bust compared to this.
C2 = Might be my new favorite modded MX-mount "Clear" switch
C3 = Ugh I can't pick between this or C2

First thought I had was that all the modded MX Clears I tried were supposed to feel like this. Other than stock MX Clear and Panda Clears. 62g, 65g, and 67g never felt so good.

I'll do a better review later. I've got like 10 minutes of play time with these switches so far. I'm starting to feel more and more that Cherry MX is meh. Gateron and Greetech are becoming more interesting to me the more I play with them.
thank you captn this is really what I was hoping for. Looks like I'll be ordering 110-120(not sure the package size for these) of the 65g and 67g ! I need some for an 1800 I have incoming and the mira
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: theanyday on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:40:35

First impressions

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/pGQaDSj.jpg)


C1 = The bump feels more connected. Like it's one motion instead of two. Starting to convince me that previous 62g modded clears I've tried were a bust compared to this.
C2 = Might be my new favorite modded MX-mount "Clear" switch
C3 = Ugh I can't pick between this or C2


C1 - Agreed, feels like one smooth motion. No bumpy roads or drops. Perhaps a new replacement for vintage browns? (haven't tested v. browns myself)

C2/C3 - Exactly my thoughts on 65g vs 67g lubed Zealios. Very tough decision... May be favouring 65g a tiny bit more though.

Seems like we might need a custom 66g spring in these bad boys.  :-X
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 19 August 2015, 14:31:54
https://www.keychatter.com/2015/08/19/review-project-zealio-switches/

There are my initial thoughts after testing the switches out.

I was nothing but impressed with the switches. At the end of the day my favorite Cherry MX switch was greatly improved. The stems are indeed not as tight as Cherry Clears, so no more worrying about ripping the  stems out when removing keycaps. They were all extremely smooth, without any grittiness at all. Also, purple!, 'nuff said.

As far as individual switches go (62g, 65g, 67g) I think it all just comes down to personal preference. There isn't a clear "best" switch of the lot. My personal favorite was by far the 67g switch though. It was the most refined feeling MX switch I've ever used. I wouldn't compare it to Topre directly, but as a huge Topre fan the 67g switch really stuck out for me. I will definitely be throwing those into my Mira.

The main thing really is that there was nothing about the switches that would make me hesitate on jumping in on the group buy for a few hundred of each right now. I had no issues with the switches or the Clear RGB tops at all. ZealPC, well done sir, well done  :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 19 August 2015, 14:33:38

Quote
I'm starting to feel more and more that Cherry MX is meh.

I'm right there with you.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 19 August 2015, 15:21:52
My personal favorite was by far the 67g switch though. It was the most refined feeling MX switch I've ever used. I wouldn't compare it to Topre directly, but as a huge Topre fan the 67g switch really stuck out for me.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought 67g felt like it had a higher positioned bump and was reminded of Topre :))

Re: RGB Tops, they will come stock on Zealios. The test samples just didn't have them installed by default :-[ It also prevents catching on thicker caps such as GMK, etc.

Thanks again for sharing first impressions!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 19 August 2015, 15:30:30
My personal favorite was by far the 67g switch though. It was the most refined feeling MX switch I've ever used. I wouldn't compare it to Topre directly, but as a huge Topre fan the 67g switch really stuck out for me.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought 67g felt like it had a higher positioned bump and was reminded of Topre :))

Re: RGB Tops, they will come stock on Zealios. The test samples just didn't have them installed by default :-[ It also prevents catching on thicker caps such as GMK, etc.

Thanks again for sharing first impressions!

These initial impressions have convinced me. I'm in for at least 330 (67g non-lubed, if I had to choose now).

I can't wait.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Thu, 20 August 2015, 10:41:02
Massdrop has a buy going on (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gateron-switches?mode=guest_open) for Gateron switches right now. Three days left and it still hasn't hit the first tier. I wonder if everyone's holding out for Zealios?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mrflow3r on Thu, 20 August 2015, 11:11:40
A quick question: can I design my PCBs the same as before (standard cherry-mx pcb mount footprint) to use the Project Zealio? Or is there something I should make a note of? Gracias!

Thanks for making this happen Zeal!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 20 August 2015, 11:19:55
Massdrop has a buy going on (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gateron-switches?mode=guest_open) for Gateron switches right now. Three days left and it still hasn't hit the first tier. I wonder if everyone's holding out for Zealios?

Maybe. But they've also ran it every 2 or so weeks, and have probably worn the market out.

A quick question: can I design my PCBs the same as before (standard cherry-mx pcb mount footprint) to use the Project Zealio? Or is there something I should make a note of? Gracias!

Thanks for making this happen Zeal!

Yes, switch pins and dimensions will be exactly the same. The only thing that'll be different is RGB LED support. You don't have to support it, but the option is there. If you choose to just run regular LED traces, the switch can still support standard 3mm/2x3x4mm/1.8mm LEDs.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Invaderevan on Thu, 20 August 2015, 11:24:34
Massdrop has a buy going on (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gateron-switches?mode=guest_open) for Gateron switches right now. Three days left and it still hasn't hit the first tier. I wonder if everyone's holding out for Zealios?

That, and Gaterons are the same price on amazon but with free 2 day shipping with prime.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mrflow3r on Thu, 20 August 2015, 11:39:25
Massdrop has a buy going on (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gateron-switches?mode=guest_open) for Gateron switches right now. Three days left and it still hasn't hit the first tier. I wonder if everyone's holding out for Zealios?

Maybe. But they've also ran it every 2 or so weeks, and have probably worn the market out.

A quick question: can I design my PCBs the same as before (standard cherry-mx pcb mount footprint) to use the Project Zealio? Or is there something I should make a note of? Gracias!

Thanks for making this happen Zeal!

Yes, switch pins and dimensions will be exactly the same. The only thing that'll be different is RGB LED support. You don't have to support it, but the option is there. If you choose to just run regular LED traces, the switch can still support standard 3mm/2x3x4mm/1.8mm LEDs.
Awesome. This is awesome!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Thu, 20 August 2015, 12:39:46
Massdrop has a buy going on (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gateron-switches?mode=guest_open) for Gateron switches right now. Three days left and it still hasn't hit the first tier. I wonder if everyone's holding out for Zealios?

That, and Gaterons are the same price on amazon but with free 2 day shipping with prime.

Yeah but it gets down to $24.99 at 100 units. That's a big difference if you can afford to wait.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 20 August 2015, 13:10:59
I received my Zealios yesterday, and they seem to be just what we've been asking for. I will post my review after I've had a chance to build up my JD45 prototype with them. Unfortunately for you guys, that will be after I return from my vacation next week. Hope you guys don't mind waiting a bit, but I'll be off-forum for several days!

Loving those clear housings, though. I can see people buying these just because of the transparent housings! Having the choice of a ~65g linear stem and ~67g tactile stem will definitely be a boon for those of us who regularly had to perform switch mods to get those things before.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 20 August 2015, 14:23:57
I received my Zealios yesterday, and they seem to be just what we've been asking for. I will post my review after I've had a chance to build up my JD45 prototype with them. Unfortunately for you guys, that will be after I return from my vacation next week. Hope you guys don't mind waiting a bit, but I'll be off-forum for several days!

Loving those clear housings, though. I can see people buying these just because of the transparent housings! Having the choice of a ~65g linear stem and ~67g tactile stem will definitely be a boon for those of us who regularly had to perform switch mods to get those things before.


When you take part into GB you learn that one week wait means nothing! Go and enjoy your vacations, I'll be looking forward to your review. ;)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 20 August 2015, 17:38:21
"Project Zealio" sounds a bit lame lame. Why name it after yourself? ^-^

Don't worry. I'm still going to dump my money on this. There's no way I'm not gonna try these!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mtl on Thu, 20 August 2015, 18:44:49
Yes, switch pins and dimensions will be exactly the same. The only thing that'll be different is RGB LED support.

Zeal, did they fix the PCB mount legs? I thought with Gaterons one had to file the legs a little to get them to fit. Thanks.

Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 20 August 2015, 18:53:11
Yes, switch pins and dimensions will be exactly the same. The only thing that'll be different is RGB LED support.

Zeal, did they fix the PCB mount legs? I thought with Gaterons one had to file the legs a little to get them to fit. Thanks.



It would depend on the aftermarket PCB you purchase. Some board makers like to purposely make the PCB mount support pin holes smaller to give the switches a tighter fit. I tested them on Duck PCBs and they were a perfectly snug fit. I did have Gateron make the PCB mount fins ever so slightly smaller.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 20 August 2015, 19:38:08
God, I'm sold. I was going to go for 62g..I've been tempted to go with 67g now...Can the 2 grams between the 65 and the 67 really make all that difference?   :eek:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: nmur on Thu, 20 August 2015, 19:45:19
God, I'm sold. I was going to go for 62g..I've been tempted to go with 67g now...Can the 2 grams between the 65 and the 67 really make all that difference?   :eek:

Yeah it's pretty surprising that there's a noticeable difference between them, but I would imagine it's because those measurements are the forces required to bottom-out instead of actuation.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 20 August 2015, 19:55:33
God, I'm sold. I was going to go for 62g..I've been tempted to go with 67g now...Can the 2 grams between the 65 and the 67 really make all that difference?   :eek:

Only solution: buy all the weights. :P
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Sed8op8 on Thu, 20 August 2015, 20:04:06
God, I'm sold. I was going to go for 62g..I've been tempted to go with 67g now...Can the 2 grams between the 65 and the 67 really make all that difference?   :eek:
I didn't think so airtree but I freaking love my 67g on my GON the difference between e 62g on my duck are very noticeable. I also have 65g on my switch tester and it slightly noticeable if your paying attention to it.

Living speed bump was stating how these zealios are already very smooth without lube and that he is probably going to go the unlubed route in his review. I'm super stoked to try these out. I prefer to use only the tiniest amount of lube on cherry ergos as even just a Smidgee too much and you lose the bump. I can't wait to compare these
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 20 August 2015, 20:11:31
God, I'm sold. I was going to go for 62g..I've been tempted to go with 67g now...Can the 2 grams between the 65 and the 67 really make all that difference?   :eek:

Only solution: buy all the weights. :P

Definitely buying 65 and 67g!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 20 August 2015, 20:29:53
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Um, this was me playing with my Zealios on my newly built JD forty five. I have not worked out the function layer for the numbers or punctuation yet haha.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 20 August 2015, 20:45:31
Living speed bump was stating how these zealios are already very smooth without lube and that he is probably going to go the unlubed route in his review.
Yeah, I'm really excited for a switch that sounds like it's really nice without lube. I personally can't stand unlubed mx clears, but I always feel like when I do lube them they lose a lot of the tactility that I like to have while typing. Unlubed 67g zealios seem like a great compromise!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 20 August 2015, 20:54:22
Living speed bump was stating how these zealios are already very smooth without lube and that he is probably going to go the unlubed route in his review.

I'm thinking the same thing. Yes the lube was nice but honestly, all the Gaterons I've tried and smooth enough to not have to worry about lubing. It's nice just to slap a switch into a build and then enjoy.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mattbox on Thu, 20 August 2015, 21:25:56
i want dis. and not just because purple is my favorite color
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 21 August 2015, 05:53:04
Other than stock MX Clear and Panda Clears. 62g, 65g, and 67g never felt so good.

I really like my lubed Panda Clears but I always thought they were a tad too heavy. How do these stack up?

I still really like Panda Clears but I think the 67g would fit you better. Give me a little while to play with these switches. I'll make a Panda Clear outta these and report back.

Sounds good! Panda clears technically have 80g springs right? Is it just me or do MX clears actually feel smoother when their stem is placed in a Gateron housing. But these new zealios sound even smoother than that!  :eek:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 21 August 2015, 08:19:22
How the heck did I miss seeing this thread until now!?!?!

Holy favourite switches, Batman! I have to have these, like, in the thousands....

Can't quite decide which spring weight to get, though. I like light switches, and 62g ErgoClears are my favourites, but what I'm really after is the maximum "pop" and best feel with heavy keycaps. From the reviews so far that seems to be the 67g unlubed version. I think that's got to be the one for me....


I WANT THESE.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: awhitedev on Fri, 21 August 2015, 08:52:24
How the heck did I miss seeing this thread until now!?!?!

Holy favourite switches, Batman! I have to have these, like, in the thousands....

Can't quite decide which spring weight to get, though. I like light switches, and 62g ErgoClears are my favourites, but what I'm really after is the maximum "pop" and best feel with heavy keycaps. From the reviews so far that seems to be the 67g unlubed version. I think that's got to be the one for me....


I WANT THESE.

I agree. It sounds like 67g is what I'd want.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 21 August 2015, 08:59:57
So, after using these for a bit, PCB-mounted in my JD45, with variable weighting and Hack'd by Geeks SA keycaps, these are my thoughts:

I LOVE THESE SWITCHES!

I have always been a fan of stock clears, especially when lubed. I was never a big fan of the "ergo" mod using either stock light Cherry springs, or the Korean 62g spring, in either of the gold or standard varieties.

These Zealios, in the 62g version, feel exactly like 62g lubed ergo clears to me. I have these on the outside switches, where my pinkies would hit, so they feel okay there. I would not really prefer a full board with 62g switches, because, as I stated earlier, I've never been a huge fan of ergo clears.

The 67g version I have on the inside keys, and they feel most like lubed stock Cherry MX clears to me. Which I have always liked. But I have always felt lubed stock clears were just ever so slightly too heavy, and that's the feeling I get from these as well.

The 65g version is my "Goldilocks" switch. These feel just right. If I were to pick one weight out of the three, this would be it. As CPTBadAss said in his review, they feel very smooth and consistent all the way through from top to actuation to bottom out. I have these on the middle regions of the board,

The lubed versions of the Zealios that I received are ever so slightly smoother, but not enough to warrant the extra effort required, in my opinion. There are some who will always want lubed switches, just to have the very best experience they can get. But I am the type who would love to have a switch that I can install as-stock, and have an experience 80% or more of what the lubed version will get you. And about the same as what a lubed Cherry MX switch gets you.

So, after actual typing experience with these installed in a keyboard, I can tell you that my strong preference is toward the 65g spring version. When these are offered for sale, I will be buying large quantities of them.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 21 August 2015, 09:02:12
So, after using these for a bit, PCB-mounted in my JD45, with variable weighting and Hack'd by Geeks SA keycaps, these are my thoughts:

I LOVE THESE SWITCHES!

I have always been a fan of stock clears, especially when lubed. I was never a big fan of the "ergo" mod using either stock light Cherry springs, or the Korean 62g spring, in either of the gold or standard varieties.

These Zealios, in the 62g version, feel exactly like 62g lubed ergo clears to me. I have these on the outside switches, where my pinkies would hit, so they feel okay there. I would not really prefer a full board with 62g switches, because, as I stated earlier, I've never been a huge fan of ergo clears.

The 67g version I have on the inside keys, and they feel most like lubed stock Cherry MX clears to me. Which I have always liked. But I have always felt lubed stock clears were just ever so slightly too heavy, and that's the feeling I get from these as well.

The 65g version is my "Goldilocks" switch. These feel just right. If I were to pick one weight out of the three, this would be it. As CPTBadAss said in his review, they feel very smooth and consistent all the way through from top to actuation to bottom out. I have these on the middle regions of the board,

The lubed versions of the Zealios that I received are ever so slightly smoother, but not enough to warrant the extra effort required, in my opinion. There are some who will always want lubed switches, just to have the very best experience they can get. But I am the type who would love to have a switch that I can install as-stock, and have an experience 80% or more of what the lubed version will get you. And about the same as what a lubed Cherry MX switch gets you.

So, after actual typing experience with these installed in a keyboard, I can tell you that my strong preference is toward the 65g spring version. When these are offered for sale, I will be buying large quantities of them.

You sold me Gateron blacks I'm sold on 65 Zealio too !

Is there pics of this JD45 somewhere ?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: potatowire on Fri, 21 August 2015, 09:08:31
So, after using these for a bit, PCB-mounted in my JD45, with variable weighting and Hack'd by Geeks SA keycaps, these are my thoughts:

I LOVE THESE SWITCHES!

I have always been a fan of stock clears, especially when lubed. I was never a big fan of the "ergo" mod using either stock light Cherry springs, or the Korean 62g spring, in either of the gold or standard varieties.

These Zealios, in the 62g version, feel exactly like 62g lubed ergo clears to me. I have these on the outside switches, where my pinkies would hit, so they feel okay there. I would not really prefer a full board with 62g switches, because, as I stated earlier, I've never been a huge fan of ergo clears.

The 67g version I have on the inside keys, and they feel most like lubed stock Cherry MX clears to me. Which I have always liked. But I have always felt lubed stock clears were just ever so slightly too heavy, and that's the feeling I get from these as well.

The 65g version is my "Goldilocks" switch. These feel just right. If I were to pick one weight out of the three, this would be it. As CPTBadAss said in his review, they feel very smooth and consistent all the way through from top to actuation to bottom out. I have these on the middle regions of the board,

The lubed versions of the Zealios that I received are ever so slightly smoother, but not enough to warrant the extra effort required, in my opinion. There are some who will always want lubed switches, just to have the very best experience they can get. But I am the type who would love to have a switch that I can install as-stock, and have an experience 80% or more of what the lubed version will get you. And about the same as what a lubed Cherry MX switch gets you.

So, after actual typing experience with these installed in a keyboard, I can tell you that my strong preference is toward the 65g spring version. When these are offered for sale, I will be buying large quantities of them.

I was certain 67g non-lubed was for me...until I read this about the 65g non. I wish I could try them each out first, because I definitely plan to stock up in the GB.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Fri, 21 August 2015, 09:12:40
So, after using these for a bit, PCB-mounted in my JD45, with variable weighting and Hack'd by Geeks SA keycaps, these are my thoughts:

I LOVE THESE SWITCHES!

I have always been a fan of stock clears, especially when lubed. I was never a big fan of the "ergo" mod using either stock light Cherry springs, or the Korean 62g spring, in either of the gold or standard varieties.

These Zealios, in the 62g version, feel exactly like 62g lubed ergo clears to me. I have these on the outside switches, where my pinkies would hit, so they feel okay there. I would not really prefer a full board with 62g switches, because, as I stated earlier, I've never been a huge fan of ergo clears.

The 67g version I have on the inside keys, and they feel most like lubed stock Cherry MX clears to me. Which I have always liked. But I have always felt lubed stock clears were just ever so slightly too heavy, and that's the feeling I get from these as well.

The 65g version is my "Goldilocks" switch. These feel just right. If I were to pick one weight out of the three, this would be it. As CPTBadAss said in his review, they feel very smooth and consistent all the way through from top to actuation to bottom out. I have these on the middle regions of the board,

The lubed versions of the Zealios that I received are ever so slightly smoother, but not enough to warrant the extra effort required, in my opinion. There are some who will always want lubed switches, just to have the very best experience they can get. But I am the type who would love to have a switch that I can install as-stock, and have an experience 80% or more of what the lubed version will get you. And about the same as what a lubed Cherry MX switch gets you.

So, after actual typing experience with these installed in a keyboard, I can tell you that my strong preference is toward the 65g spring version. When these are offered for sale, I will be buying large quantities of them.

Thanks for writing this. I've been thinking about a variable-weight board for a while now. In fact, I was thinking about doing that on my G80-1800 when I get my Leeku PCB. And since I plan to use HyperFuse caps, I can't think of a better switch than purple Zealios.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 21 August 2015, 09:13:32
Is there pics of this JD45 somewhere ?

Not yet, but it's a beauty. Pretty much my endgame mini keyboard. I'll get some pics of it later, so you guys can drool. :)


I was certain 67g non-lubed was for me...until I read this about the 65g non. I wish I could try them each out first, because I definitely plan to stock up in the GB.

Yeah, it's hard to tell what things will feel like just by reading someone's description of it. I think the 65g would be the best option, then people who prefer lighter ergo clears could replace the springs with 62g or 55g springs, and those who prefer standard clears could replace the springs with 67g or higher. 85g springs are way too heavy, though, I can tell you from experience.


Thanks for writing this. I've been thinking about a variable-weight board for a while now. In fact, I was thinking about doing that on my G80-1800 when I get my Leeku PCB. And since I plan to use HyperFuse caps, I can't think of a better switch than purple Zealios.

I actually really enjoy the experience of typing on the variable weighted keyboard, something I didn't think I would like.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 21 August 2015, 09:26:33
Thanks for the write up, JD!

I just realized I never publicly shared my quick blurb review that I sent to testers. Here's a straight copy paste:

My first thoughts when testing lubed and unlubed stock switches:

62g - Wow, this feels like a way better brown. The bump is a bit more pronounced, but a bit less than what's found on 62g lubed "new" clears
62g lubed - I felt that it lost a bit of its bump after lubing. Perhaps a good alternative for Vintage browns? Koreans are cray cray over vintage browns.

65g - The whole movement is very smooth, and there's no "jumps" into bumps or ditches.
65g lubed - This really impressed me. The transition from top to bottom was pretty much perfect, and if pressed slowly, you can feel a nice cushion when bottoming out after the bump.

67g - Hard to compare Cherry to Topre, but if I had to compare the two, I'd say this would be similar. The resistance is up top, and your finger just naturally drops down after the bump. The bottom out cushion after the bump wasn't as nice feeling as the 65g counterparts. Perhaps it's due to the heavier spring which made me lose the nice, smooth gradual cushion. This stock switch reminded me of 62g "new" clears after lubing, without the gritty feel.
67g lubed - Probably my second go-to weight. While testing with a keycap and pressing down on it, the bump still felt "shorter" than the 65g lubed counterpart, but the feeling was a bit more pronounced and "in your face". It's hard to describe. The switch felt like it jumped back a bit faster/snappier, but then again, I could be imagining things.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 21 August 2015, 10:01:44
So the general consensus is that 65g is #1?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 21 August 2015, 11:31:47
So, after using these for a bit, PCB-mounted in my JD45, with variable weighting and Hack'd by Geeks SA keycaps, these are my thoughts:

I LOVE THESE SWITCHES!

I have always been a fan of stock clears, especially when lubed. I was never a big fan of the "ergo" mod using either stock light Cherry springs, or the Korean 62g spring, in either of the gold or standard varieties.

These Zealios, in the 62g version, feel exactly like 62g lubed ergo clears to me. I have these on the outside switches, where my pinkies would hit, so they feel okay there. I would not really prefer a full board with 62g switches, because, as I stated earlier, I've never been a huge fan of ergo clears.

The 67g version I have on the inside keys, and they feel most like lubed stock Cherry MX clears to me. Which I have always liked. But I have always felt lubed stock clears were just ever so slightly too heavy, and that's the feeling I get from these as well.

The 65g version is my "Goldilocks" switch. These feel just right. If I were to pick one weight out of the three, this would be it. As CPTBadAss said in his review, they feel very smooth and consistent all the way through from top to actuation to bottom out. I have these on the middle regions of the board,

The lubed versions of the Zealios that I received are ever so slightly smoother, but not enough to warrant the extra effort required, in my opinion. There are some who will always want lubed switches, just to have the very best experience they can get. But I am the type who would love to have a switch that I can install as-stock, and have an experience 80% or more of what the lubed version will get you. And about the same as what a lubed Cherry MX switch gets you.

So, after actual typing experience with these installed in a keyboard, I can tell you that my strong preference is toward the 65g spring version. When these are offered for sale, I will be buying large quantities of them.

You sold me Gateron blacks I'm sold on 65 Zealio too !

Is there pics of this JD45 somewhere ?
^^^^^ Excited to see pics of the JD45 myself :eek:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: digi on Fri, 21 August 2015, 11:42:04
Zeal, please send me 100 65g switches so I can review for you, free of charge. :))
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 21 August 2015, 11:43:17
Zeal, please send me 100 65g switches so I can review for you, free of charge. :))

He didn't get that many, unfortunately. That's why we reviewers all got multiple weight samples.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: micr0n on Fri, 21 August 2015, 11:44:13
So, after using these for a bit, PCB-mounted in my JD45, with variable weighting and Hack'd by Geeks SA keycaps, these are my thoughts:

I LOVE THESE SWITCHES!

I have always been a fan of stock clears, especially when lubed. I was never a big fan of the "ergo" mod using either stock light Cherry springs, or the Korean 62g spring, in either of the gold or standard varieties.

These Zealios, in the 62g version, feel exactly like 62g lubed ergo clears to me. I have these on the outside switches, where my pinkies would hit, so they feel okay there. I would not really prefer a full board with 62g switches, because, as I stated earlier, I've never been a huge fan of ergo clears.

The 67g version I have on the inside keys, and they feel most like lubed stock Cherry MX clears to me. Which I have always liked. But I have always felt lubed stock clears were just ever so slightly too heavy, and that's the feeling I get from these as well.

The 65g version is my "Goldilocks" switch. These feel just right. If I were to pick one weight out of the three, this would be it. As CPTBadAss said in his review, they feel very smooth and consistent all the way through from top to actuation to bottom out. I have these on the middle regions of the board,

The lubed versions of the Zealios that I received are ever so slightly smoother, but not enough to warrant the extra effort required, in my opinion. There are some who will always want lubed switches, just to have the very best experience they can get. But I am the type who would love to have a switch that I can install as-stock, and have an experience 80% or more of what the lubed version will get you. And about the same as what a lubed Cherry MX switch gets you.

So, after actual typing experience with these installed in a keyboard, I can tell you that my strong preference is toward the 65g spring version. When these are offered for sale, I will be buying large quantities of them.
Thanks for the write up JD.  You described the setup with both the 62g and 65g non lubed as though you've read my mind.  62g on the outside and 65g on the inside was the setup I was planning on going with once these switches become available. 
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 21 August 2015, 12:18:08
Thanks for your insights guys.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:25:23
I actually really enjoy the experience of typing on the variable weighted keyboard, something I didn't think I would like.

How did you decide which keys were which weight?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:33:50
So uh.  Who remembers when that mosaic image was in the OP?

What ever happened with that?

I see no red in these Zealios.

It was a scam all along!

(http://i.imgur.com/drz0S9Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 21 August 2015, 13:38:21
I actually really enjoy the experience of typing on the variable weighted keyboard, something I didn't think I would like.

How did you decide which keys were which weight?

Since I needed around 50 keys for my JD45, Zeal sent me 17 each of the different weights. I started in the center with the 67g's, and filled as many keys as I could, while keeping symmetry and filling all rows. Then I worked out from there with the 65g's, again keeping symmetry and filling all rows, and finally finished with the 62g's on the outside.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:01:27
I actually really enjoy the experience of typing on the variable weighted keyboard, something I didn't think I would like.

How did you decide which keys were which weight?

Since I needed around 50 keys for my JD45, Zeal sent me 17 each of the different weights. I started in the center with the 67g's, and filled as many keys as I could, while keeping symmetry and filling all rows. Then I worked out from there with the 65g's, again keeping symmetry and filling all rows, and finally finished with the 62g's on the outside.

Wow so three weights? I think the RealForce variable only has two.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:23:34
So uh.  Who remembers when that mosaic image was in the OP?

What ever happened with that?

I see no red in these Zealios.

It was a scam all along!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/drz0S9Y.jpg)


They were just red linear zealios from the factory as samples. I never got them, but got black ones instead.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:26:45
I actually really enjoy the experience of typing on the variable weighted keyboard, something I didn't think I would like.

How did you decide which keys were which weight?

Since I needed around 50 keys for my JD45, Zeal sent me 17 each of the different weights. I started in the center with the 67g's, and filled as many keys as I could, while keeping symmetry and filling all rows. Then I worked out from there with the 65g's, again keeping symmetry and filling all rows, and finally finished with the 62g's on the outside.

Wow so three weights? I think the RealForce variable only has two.

I will probably swap out the springs in the 67g switches for 65g gold springs, and then I will also only have two weights. Or I might swap the 62g for 65g, also, and have a uniform 65g board. :)

But I don't mind the stiffer feeling in the center. It doesn't bother me enough that I wouldn't use them that way.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:28:17
So uh.  Who remembers when that mosaic image was in the OP?

What ever happened with that?

I see no red in these Zealios.

It was a scam all along!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/drz0S9Y.jpg)


They were just red linear zealios from the factory as samples. I never got them, but got black ones instead.

So it was all a lie.  -_-
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:39:44
So uh.  Who remembers when that mosaic image was in the OP?

What ever happened with that?

I see no red in these Zealios.

It was a scam all along!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/drz0S9Y.jpg)


They were just red linear zealios from the factory as samples. I never got them, but got black ones instead.

So it was all a lie.  -_-

The clear housing was the truth tho.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 22 August 2015, 00:06:42
Living speed bump was stating how these zealios are already very smooth without lube and that he is probably going to go the unlubed route in his review.
Yeah, I'm really excited for a switch that sounds like it's really nice without lube. I personally can't stand unlubed mx clears, but I always feel like when I do lube them they lose a lot of the tactility that I like to have while typing. Unlubed 67g zealios seem like a great compromise!

Yeah I would highly recommend getting a few extra Zealios than you need in the GB and lubing those before just going at the lot of them. I am 110% on board with you about not using MX Clears unless they are lubed. The unlubed Zealios are as smooth as any of my lubed MX Clears keyboards as is, the lube really just seems to amplify/diminish the tactile bump, depending on how much you use and how you use it. It is slightly smoother, yes, but I have the feeling that after I test them on a full keyboard up to speed, I won't really notice the additional "nth" of smoothness brought on by the lube.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 22 August 2015, 00:09:25
The lubed versions of the Zealios that I received are ever so slightly smoother, but not enough to warrant the extra effort required, in my opinion.

Yeah, I felt the exact same way.  :thumb:

But with the clear housing, I also know quite a few people will probably sticker the switches for aesthetics, and if you already have the switch open, there isn't really a reason not at that point if you want uber-smoothness.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Sat, 22 August 2015, 08:35:45
This is a little bit OT but I just realized, I've never used Gateron browns or heard much about them. MX browns are known for their scratchiness. Are Gateron browns comparably smoother, like these are compared to clears?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 22 August 2015, 09:13:17
This is a little bit OT but I just realized, I've never used Gateron browns or heard much about them. MX browns are known for their scratchiness. Are Gateron browns comparably smoother, like these are compared to clears?
I've never used Gateron browns, either, but I understand from others that all Gaterons are smoother than their Cherry counterparts.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 22 August 2015, 09:20:43
This is a little bit OT but I just realized, I've never used Gateron browns or heard much about them. MX browns are known for their scratchiness. Are Gateron browns comparably smoother, like these are compared to clears?
I've never used Gateron browns, either, but I understand from others that all Gaterons are smoother than their Cherry counterparts.
I have Gateron browns, haven't noticed the scratchiness I usually feel with MX ones. They almost feel like very slightly lubed MX browns. I'm not a browns fan, but if I was I'd prefer Gaterons I think.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: nmur on Sat, 22 August 2015, 10:25:21
This is a little bit OT but I just realized, I've never used Gateron browns or heard much about them. MX browns are known for their scratchiness. Are Gateron browns comparably smoother, like these are compared to clears?
I've never used Gateron browns, either, but I understand from others that all Gaterons are smoother than their Cherry counterparts.
I have Gateron browns, haven't noticed the scratchiness I usually feel with MX ones. They almost feel like very slightly lubed MX browns. I'm not a browns fan, but if I was I'd prefer Gaterons I think.
I've tried brand new gateron and cherry browns side by side, and there's a definite difference between them. the difference is more noticeable between linear switch counterparts though.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 22 August 2015, 10:57:02
Perhaps I'll do a board with Zealios on the alpha and stock gateron black on the modifiers. Who knows ...  ::)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Sat, 22 August 2015, 12:45:32
Perhaps I'll do a board with Zealios on the alpha and stock gateron black on the modifiers. Who knows ...  ::)

I've never heard of mixing tactile and linear switches on the same board. Is there any precedent for this kind of thing?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 22 August 2015, 13:19:24
Perhaps I'll do a board with Zealios on the alpha and stock gateron black on the modifiers. Who knows ...  ::)
Personally I'm planning on 67g zealio alphas and modded 68g Gateron blacks
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 22 August 2015, 20:20:38
Perhaps I'll do a board with Zealios on the alpha and stock gateron black on the modifiers. Who knows ...  ::)

I've never heard of mixing tactile and linear switches on the same board. Is there any precedent for this kind of thing?


If it has a name, I've no clue of it.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Sat, 22 August 2015, 20:50:32
Perhaps I'll do a board with Zealios on the alpha and stock gateron black on the modifiers. Who knows ...  ::)

I've never heard of mixing tactile and linear switches on the same board. Is there any precedent for this kind of thing?


If it has a name, I've no clue of it.

Don't you think it would feel weird? What are you after?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zustiur on Sat, 22 August 2015, 20:53:28
I used Cherry reds on my modifiers and whites on the rest. Logic being that lighter springs should be on the keys you have to hold down.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Sat, 22 August 2015, 20:56:03
I used Cherry reds on my modifiers and whites on the rest. Logic being that lighter springs should be on the keys you have to hold down.

I get the variable weights issue, but mixing tactile and linear just seems weird to me.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zustiur on Sat, 22 August 2015, 20:58:32
True enough. The linear factor didn't really weigh into my decision.

I went with whites because I could be couldn't get clears. These zealios sound like the solution for my next board.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 23 August 2015, 04:57:20
I used Cherry reds on my modifiers and whites on the rest. Logic being that lighter springs should be on the keys you have to hold down.

I get the variable weights issue, but mixing tactile and linear just seems weird to me.
To be honest I've never tried it. It is just that the lightest keys I have at hand ate gateron black. :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 23 August 2015, 07:53:58
This is a little bit OT but I just realized, I've never used Gateron browns or heard much about them. MX browns are known for their scratchiness. Are Gateron browns comparably smoother, like these are compared to clears?
I've never used Gateron browns, either, but I understand from others that all Gaterons are smoother than their Cherry counterparts.

They are slightly smoother, but the tactile bump is very similar, still too small for my personal taste.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: punkpc on Sun, 23 August 2015, 10:06:16
Do we have any idea on when these might be available? I would love these for my KC60... when ever it arrives... Also do we have a ball park pricing because these are custom runs?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sun, 23 August 2015, 10:19:42
Do we have any idea on when these might be available? I would love these for my KC60... when ever it arrives... Also do we have a ball park pricing because these are custom runs?
Read the thread before asking questions, he's hoping to get a groupbuy up before the end of August.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: potatowire on Sun, 23 August 2015, 10:24:58
Do we have any idea on when these might be available? I would love these for my KC60... when ever it arrives... Also do we have a ball park pricing because these are custom runs?
Read the thread before asking questions, he's hoping to get a groupbuy up before the end of August.
and expect $0.75 per switch.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: rainb1ood on Sun, 23 August 2015, 10:35:13
This would be perfect for the upcoming Orion V2
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: punkpc on Sun, 23 August 2015, 10:51:34
Do we have any idea on when these might be available? I would love these for my KC60... when ever it arrives... Also do we have a ball park pricing because these are custom runs?
Read the thread before asking questions, he's hoping to get a groupbuy up before the end of August.
Sorry was digging and must have missed that.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mattbox on Sun, 23 August 2015, 12:23:05
Will we be settling on a single spring or will they be available in 62g/65g/67g?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 23 August 2015, 14:21:22
Will we be settling on a single spring or will they be available in 62g/65g/67g?

Finalizing that by today hopefully. As it stands, maybe only 65g and 67g will remain.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 23 August 2015, 14:47:25
Will we be settling on a single spring or will they be available in 62g/65g/67g?

Finalizing that by today hopefully. As it stands, maybe only 65g and 67g will remain.

Think 67g sounds real nice. I always preferred something slightly heavier :D
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 23 August 2015, 15:19:46
Will we be settling on a single spring or will they be available in 62g/65g/67g?

Finalizing that by today hopefully. As it stands, maybe only 65g and 67g will remain.

I would fully support that call  :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ahkrael on Sun, 23 August 2015, 16:29:54
Perhaps I'll do a board with Zealios on the alpha and stock gateron black on the modifiers. Who knows ...  ::)

I've never heard of mixing tactile and linear switches on the same board. Is there any precedent for this kind of thing?

This is something I'm thinking of doing as well, at least to test it out.  I have a bunch of gateron browns and clears, and many different weighted springs to experiment with, but personally I think having different tactility would be interesting.  I do more gaming than typing on most of my boards, and after having used a Novatouch for about a year, going back to an MX brown board I can tell a difference while gaming, noticing the bump whereas previously I wouldn't notice anything on upstrokes with the topre.  For the modifiers though, I can't see a reason (and perhaps it has to do with some scratchiness on my cherry browns) one would want the tactility for Shift, Ctrl and Alt.  Again, this is more for gaming purposes, the way I'm looking at it.  I've got an orion v2 coming, so eventually when I have it, I want to do some test runs modding my QFR's and see what I like.  These switches look awesome though, I'm definitely going to grab at least 100.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: ika on Sun, 23 August 2015, 20:56:23
For those with samples, can anyone test to see if 55g springs (esp. GON, sprit springs) will cause the switch to stick? Bonus points for heavier caps like SA profile or various artisans.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 23 August 2015, 21:06:00
For those with samples, can anyone test to see if 55g springs (esp. GON, sprit springs) will cause the switch to stick? Bonus points for heavier caps like SA profile or various artisans.

I think i actually have a few 55g springs left over, will look when i get back in late tonight, and test and report back if so.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: turboloser on Sun, 23 August 2015, 22:06:17
I don't need this... I need this.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: UTEster750 on Mon, 24 August 2015, 06:32:59
Just joined the drop for the carbon keycap set, so that now means I am committed to an ergodox and these switches when the buy happens!  ;D :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 24 August 2015, 09:13:49
/me is ready to get funky with some Zealios  :cool:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 24 August 2015, 09:26:02
So, after using these for a bit, PCB-mounted in my JD45, with variable weighting and Hack'd by Geeks SA keycaps, these are my thoughts:

I LOVE THESE SWITCHES!

I have always been a fan of stock clears, especially when lubed. I was never a big fan of the "ergo" mod using either stock light Cherry springs, or the Korean 62g spring, in either of the gold or standard varieties.

These Zealios, in the 62g version, feel exactly like 62g lubed ergo clears to me. I have these on the outside switches, where my pinkies would hit, so they feel okay there. I would not really prefer a full board with 62g switches, because, as I stated earlier, I've never been a huge fan of ergo clears.

The 67g version I have on the inside keys, and they feel most like lubed stock Cherry MX clears to me. Which I have always liked. But I have always felt lubed stock clears were just ever so slightly too heavy, and that's the feeling I get from these as well.

The 65g version is my "Goldilocks" switch. These feel just right. If I were to pick one weight out of the three, this would be it. As CPTBadAss said in his review, they feel very smooth and consistent all the way through from top to actuation to bottom out. I have these on the middle regions of the board,

The lubed versions of the Zealios that I received are ever so slightly smoother, but not enough to warrant the extra effort required, in my opinion. There are some who will always want lubed switches, just to have the very best experience they can get. But I am the type who would love to have a switch that I can install as-stock, and have an experience 80% or more of what the lubed version will get you. And about the same as what a lubed Cherry MX switch gets you.

So, after actual typing experience with these installed in a keyboard, I can tell you that my strong preference is toward the 65g spring version. When these are offered for sale, I will be buying large quantities of them.

Soo in conclusion these switches are on par with lubed mx?  But when lubed 20% better than mx?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 24 August 2015, 09:51:39
I think the Japanese sampler package was maybe misplaced? =P
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 25 August 2015, 07:24:19
GB starting soon. Setting up order form. All spring weights will be available. Waiting on mkawa's email to see if I can incorporate GH V3 lube into the buy.

62g Clear (Linear)
65g Clear (Linear)
67g Clear (Linear)

62g Purple (ergo-clear tactile)
65g Purple (ergo-clear tactile)
67g Purple (ergo-clear tactile)

$0.75 / switch
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Tue, 25 August 2015, 07:28:11
GB starting soon. Setting up order form. All spring weights will be available. Waiting on mkawa's email to see if I can incorporate GH V3 lube into the buy.

62g Clear (Linear)
65g Clear (Linear)
67g Clear (Linear)

62g Purple (ergo-clear tactile)
65g Purple (ergo-clear tactile)
67g Purple (ergo-clear tactile)

$0.75 / switch
Awesome! I'm thinking I'll go for 67g purple! (I assume we are paying through PayPal...)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 25 August 2015, 07:37:12
GB starting soon. Setting up order form. All spring weights will be available. Waiting on mkawa's email to see if I can incorporate GH V3 lube into the buy.

62g Clear (Linear)
65g Clear (Linear)
67g Clear (Linear)

62g Purple (ergo-clear tactile)
65g Purple (ergo-clear tactile)
67g Purple (ergo-clear tactile)

$0.75 / switch
Awesome! I'm thinking I'll go for 67g purple! (I assume we are paying through PayPal...)

Orders will be taken directly from my site. It accepts paypal and credit cards through Stripe.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Tue, 25 August 2015, 07:42:58
GB starting soon. Setting up order form. All spring weights will be available. Waiting on mkawa's email to see if I can incorporate GH V3 lube into the buy.

62g Clear (Linear)
65g Clear (Linear)
67g Clear (Linear)

62g Purple (ergo-clear tactile)
65g Purple (ergo-clear tactile)
67g Purple (ergo-clear tactile)

$0.75 / switch
Awesome! I'm thinking I'll go for 67g purple! (I assume we are paying through PayPal...)

Orders will be taken directly from my site. It accepts paypal and credit cards through Stripe.
Awesome! I'm super excited!!!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Vaun on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:12:18
F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: sth on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:15:48
75c? Tiered discounts?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: joey on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:16:58
How long will it be open for?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: andysun on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:34:48
Hyped! :D

Where will the switches be shipped from?

EDIT: just noticed Zeals location :P
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:57:50
75c? Tiered discounts?
As explained on IRC, Gateron MOQ is really really high. If the order doesn't tip it, I'll be buying out the rest. Due to the customization of the switch and tooling/logistics, there will not be tiered discounts for this buy. Sorry.

How long will it be open for?
GB will be open until Sept 30, 2015.

Hyped! :D

Where will the switches be shipped from?

Canada. Will look into finding an EU member to proxy.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: cwils0n on Tue, 25 August 2015, 08:59:09
Welp, guess I'm going to sell off my Gateron clears and get a set of these to put into my Neutrino.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: awhitedev on Tue, 25 August 2015, 09:32:23
Sorry if this has been asked before... How are you counting switches? By weight, hand, or machine? I was part of another Gateron group buy and received 10 less than I actually ordered and I want to make sure that doesn't happen here.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 25 August 2015, 10:03:22
Sorry if this has been asked before... How are you counting switches? By weight, hand, or machine? I was part of another Gateron group buy and received 10 less than I actually ordered and I want to make sure that doesn't happen here.

I'll be double weighing them on two different scales (one measures to 0.01g), the other to the nearest gram. I'll also have one bag hand counted for cross reference. Don't worry, you won't get the short end of the stick and end up with 10 less switches.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Tue, 25 August 2015, 10:06:29
I assume that since the GB is open until the 30th, that they will be shipping a week or so after the end of the GB?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: donpark on Tue, 25 August 2015, 10:06:56
will the switches be shipped when we order or only after the GB ends?
do you ship international?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Tue, 25 August 2015, 10:14:59
will the switches be shipped when we order or only after the GB ends?
do you ship international?
Zeal did just say something about finding a proxy member in Europe, so I'm sure he will ship internationally.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 25 August 2015, 10:21:50
I assume that since the GB is open until the 30th, that they will be shipping a week or so after the end of the GB?


Gateron has quoted me "1 day to manufacture" time. That does not include purchasing the purple plastics pellets, packing & shipping. I'd say roughly 1 business week after order has been submitted to Gateron before it arrives at my doorsteps. Then from there, I'll ship on a first-to-order basis.

will the switches be shipped when we order or only after the GB ends?
do you ship international?

It will be shipped only after GB ends + manufacturing + shipping time. I ship worldwide!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Tue, 25 August 2015, 10:23:24


Then from there, I'll ship on a first-to-order basis.
In that case, I'll have to be one of the first to order!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 25 August 2015, 10:26:05
I assume that since the GB is open until the 30th, that they will be shipping a week or so after the end of the GB?


Gateron has quoted me "1 day to manufacture" time. That does not include purchasing the purple plastics pellets, packing & shipping. I'd say roughly 1 business week after order has been submitted to Gateron before it arrives at my doorsteps. Then from there, I'll ship on a first-to-order basis.

will the switches be shipped when we order or only after the GB ends?
do you ship international?

It will be shipped only after GB ends + manufacturing + shipping time. I ship worldwide!

We really, really need to get some good quality video of the manufacturing process. :eek:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 25 August 2015, 10:30:35
I assume that since the GB is open until the 30th, that they will be shipping a week or so after the end of the GB?


Gateron has quoted me "1 day to manufacture" time. That does not include purchasing the purple plastics pellets, packing & shipping. I'd say roughly 1 business week after order has been submitted to Gateron before it arrives at my doorsteps. Then from there, I'll ship on a first-to-order basis.

will the switches be shipped when we order or only after the GB ends?
do you ship international?

It will be shipped only after GB ends + manufacturing + shipping time. I ship worldwide!

We really, really need to get some good quality video of the manufacturing process. :eek:

Classified info. :P
I've got some video footage of their doubleshot machines...but that's for me to watch only :))
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Tue, 25 August 2015, 10:37:30
Classified info. :P
I've got some video footage of their doubleshot machines...but that's for me to watch only :))

Well then, we'll just have to hack you.

(http://i.giphy.com/1230rTAtEjLyLu.gif)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 25 August 2015, 10:47:38
Classified info. :P
I've got some video footage of their doubleshot machines...but that's for me to watch only :))

Well then, we'll just have to hack you.

Show Image
(http://i.giphy.com/1230rTAtEjLyLu.gif)


I just realized I typed doubleshot instead of injection moulding. That's what happens when you get 3hrs of sleep.

Video footage also isn't online, so gl.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Tue, 25 August 2015, 13:20:16
Video footage also isn't online, so gl.
Is the computer where the video is connected to the internet? If so, then it can be hacked. Hide your kids, hide your wife Take good care of it!  :p
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: skycrimes on Tue, 25 August 2015, 14:20:40
any advice? I've only ever used mx browns and gateron browns (just barely got my first mech). I have a mx clear coming in but haven't tried a full board with it just the tester and from the way it feels clears > browns. I feel like i'll prefer heavier keys. I don't understand the whole springiness/crisp feeling (prob cause I haven't used a mech that long and never tried modded switches). So for a complete newbie would 67's be the starting place? or 65's? 
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: cwils0n on Tue, 25 August 2015, 14:29:37
Just ordered 65g tactiles for my neutrino!  $15 DHL 1 day express shipping was my only option, however.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 25 August 2015, 14:46:31
Group buy is live?

http://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jbondeson on Tue, 25 August 2015, 14:47:32
Group buy is live?

Zeal was saying in irc that he's not quite ready.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 25 August 2015, 14:48:28
(http://puu.sh/jOkOr/808437ac2f.png)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 25 August 2015, 14:51:13
Group buy is live?

http://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders
Writing up GB post now. =T
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mattyIce on Tue, 25 August 2015, 14:52:22
Just ordered 65g tactiles for my neutrino!  $15 DHL 1 day express shipping was my only option, however.
I was a little surprised by the $15 shipping as well. If there is a cheaper option I don't mind waiting.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: cwils0n on Tue, 25 August 2015, 14:54:35
Group buy is live?

Zeal was saying in irc that he's not quite ready.

My order went through and I received my confirmation email.  Don't forget to click the option to enter the Bingcap raffle.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 25 August 2015, 14:58:07
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jOkOr/808437ac2f.png)


Oh holy ****.

/me bribes everyone
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:04:36
To everyone asking for a cheaper USA shipping method: There's only Canada Post Tracked Packet USA (4-10 business days), and it costs a mere $1-2 less. Canada Post doesn't have the low prices you guys have in the states. Good thing is overnight shipping is well worth it, trust me. ;)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: cwils0n on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:13:09
To everyone asking for a cheaper USA shipping method: There's only Canada Post Tracked Packet USA (4-10 business days), and it costs a mere $1-2 less. Canada Post doesn't have the low prices you guys have in the states. Good thing is overnight shipping is well worth it, trust me. ;)

Yea, that's why I had no issue with paying the $15.  Well worth the money and they get into my hands even faster.  Too bad I'll still be waiting on a Carbon set to complete this build.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: aznairjordan on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:14:10
ahh holy.. how much do you expect to sell them for in your store after the gb? Thinking of only getting a tkl amount of switches as I can't think of spending 100+ on switches that I won't use relatively quickly
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: TastaturenAuslese on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:16:49
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jOkOr/808437ac2f.png)

When does this raffle end? :3
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:18:47
Made my order!!! Really excited to get my first custom board built!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: romevi on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:19:19
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/jOkOr/808437ac2f.png)

When does this raffle end? :3

When Gotham is in ashes.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: TastaturenAuslese on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:22:52
Purchased.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:26:03
I just hope I'm within the first batch of orders to be shipped out also, 1 day shipping is sweet! (I've been shipping headphones through FedEx, and I've been paying about the same price for shipping as these switches were, but it takes a week,  so for me, this is relatively cheap!)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: 3K on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:28:29
Now all we need is an EU proxy...  :-X
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: rainb1ood on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:31:18
Ordered!! Woo this is so exciting
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:33:46
that price though.

Hmm...

I'll probably get a set, but not sure if i'm willing to pay for two >.>
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:39:47
@zeal, I just realized I was an idiot and ordered 65! And that's definitely NOT a multiple of ten! Can I change my order to five more switches, or do you mind that I made that mistake? My apologies for my idiocy.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:48:12
@zeal, I just realized I was an idiot and ordered 65! And that's definitely NOT a multiple of ten! Can I change my order to five more switches, or do you mind that I made that mistake? My apologies for my idiocy.

Up to you if you want to re-order. I can count 5 more switches, but if everyone does this, I'll be a sad panda. :(
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 25 August 2015, 15:51:17
ahh holy.. how much do you expect to sell them for in your store after the gb? Thinking of only getting a tkl amount of switches as I can't think of spending 100+ on switches that I won't use relatively quickly

They will be more expensive after the GB.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 25 August 2015, 16:17:24
Official GB page. :D
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74807
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 25 August 2015, 16:40:30
jumping in for my Mira switches, glws Zeal!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Bucky on Tue, 25 August 2015, 16:53:31
I was planning on doing the same with the Mira, should be a sweet combination.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Tue, 25 August 2015, 16:58:51
@zeal, I just realized I was an idiot and ordered 65! And that's definitely NOT a multiple of ten! Can I change my order to five more switches, or do you mind that I made that mistake? My apologies for my idiocy.

Up to you if you want to re-order. I can count 5 more switches, but if everyone does this, I'll be a sad panda. :(
I don't think they will. It was totally my fault (it's very clearly written on the order page, and I read it too. I was going to order 60, as it's a multiple of ten, but I thought "oh, well it might be nice to have some extra switches" and immediately forgot about your request for multiples of ten. I bet I'll be the only one, and if there are more, I couldn't imagine more than a handful of the orders would be like this. Especially considering that it sounds like a lot of people will be ordering a few hundred... Again, my apologies.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Uhmkevinkev on Thu, 27 August 2015, 05:55:28
So I'm just confirming in the review on keychatter it says the 67g purple has a little click sound is this true?
If not I am still going to buy them.

Also how much will they cost after the GB?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 27 August 2015, 08:52:47
So I'm just confirming in the review on keychatter it says the 67g purple has a little click sound is this true?
If not I am still going to buy them.

Also how much will they cost after the GB?

No, they don't click like clicky switches. I think what he meant was it removed a bit of the "top-out" sound when the stem bounces back due to the lube.

Price after GB will depend on how many I'll have to order to cover MOQ, or if MOQ gets reached, how many extras I decide on order. So there's no set price yet.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: romevi on Thu, 27 August 2015, 11:05:41
I'm used to Topre 55g and buckling springs. Which Purple would be best for me? 65g or 67g? Deciding which to get for my Jane.

Also, never used linear before on a board, but thinking of putting some in my Mira, when that happens. Since I like heavier switches, would 67g be too heavy or should I opt for 65g?
First-world decisions, decisions...!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 27 August 2015, 11:44:02
I'm used to Topre 55g and buckling springs. Which Purple would be best for me? 65g or 67g? Deciding which to get for my Jane.

Also, never used linear before on a board, but thinking of putting some in my Mira, when that happens. Since I like heavier switches, would 67g be too heavy or should I opt for 65g?
First-world decisions, decisions...!

I'm not you, so I really can't make that decision D: It does sound like you like heavier switches though.

67g Clear Zealio is still lighter than MX Blacks. Keep that in mind!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: romevi on Thu, 27 August 2015, 11:47:17
I'm used to Topre 55g and buckling springs. Which Purple would be best for me? 65g or 67g? Deciding which to get for my Jane.

Also, never used linear before on a board, but thinking of putting some in my Mira, when that happens. Since I like heavier switches, would 67g be too heavy or should I opt for 65g?
First-world decisions, decisions...!

I'm not you, so I really can't make that decision D: It does sound like you like heavier switches though.

67g Clear Zealio is still lighter than MX Blacks. Keep that in mind!

Ah, okay. Thanks! Looks like I'll opt for the 67g for my Mira. The Jane will be my first MX board, and so I've never used Ergo Clears, but have decided that those will be my first switch. May go for Purple 65g since that so far seems to be the most favorable after all three reviews are averaged.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: zvans18 on Fri, 28 August 2015, 15:09:48
did the clears/linears get any special attention other than the springs and 4pin compatible, transparent housing? (specifically looking for a butter linear)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 28 August 2015, 15:39:10
did the clears/linears get any special attention other than the springs and 4pin compatible, transparent housing? (specifically looking for a butter linear)

Yep! Please refer to this image (clear & black stems are the same mould) Black just happens to be easier to take a macro pic of.
(http://i.imgur.com/bqrtVFn.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: zvans18 on Fri, 28 August 2015, 16:10:07
did the clears/linears get any special attention other than the springs and 4pin compatible, transparent housing? (specifically looking for a butter linear)

Yep! Please refer to this image (clear & black stems are the same mould) Black just happens to be easier to take a macro pic of.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bqrtVFn.jpg)


Ooh, never seen that comparison, very nice. A couple follow-up questions though: 1- I guess closer to my actual original question is do your linears differ from standard gaterons, which are already better than cherry, by more than what i mentioned or could I get away with standard gat linears and custom springs if i wanted new weight? (if I didn't want RGB support) 2- I keep hearing you refer to the weights as 62 being around brown territory and your 67 being lighter than blacks, but ripster's tests seem to disagree, maybe I'm just not understanding something?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 28 August 2015, 16:42:27
did the clears/linears get any special attention other than the springs and 4pin compatible, transparent housing? (specifically looking for a butter linear)

Yep! Please refer to this image (clear & black stems are the same mould) Black just happens to be easier to take a macro pic of.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bqrtVFn.jpg)


Ooh, never seen that comparison, very nice. A couple follow-up questions though: 1- I guess closer to my actual original question is do your linears differ from standard gaterons, which are already better than cherry, by more than what i mentioned or could I get away with standard gat linears and custom springs if i wanted new weight? (if I didn't want RGB support) 2- I keep hearing you refer to the weights as 62 being around brown territory and your 67 being lighter than blacks, but ripster's tests seem to disagree, maybe I'm just not understanding something?

Happy to answer those questions.

1: The RGB switch top further enhances the smoothness of the Gateron / Zealio switches as the guiding rails have been tweaked slightly. From my brief testing, the "catching issue" some people have reported using regular clear tops / milky Gateron tops with thicker keycaps are not present on the RGB switch tops.

2: The 62g, 65g and 67g spring weights you see me referencing are "Korean spring weights", which measure the bottom out force of the switch instead of the actuation force, like Cherry. It's confusing at first, but once you feel it, you'll be able to relate.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 28 August 2015, 16:43:12
did the clears/linears get any special attention other than the springs and 4pin compatible, transparent housing? (specifically looking for a butter linear)

Yep! Please refer to this image (clear & black stems are the same mould) Black just happens to be easier to take a macro pic of.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bqrtVFn.jpg)



Is it me or there is a different in density in the plastic between the gateron sliding (I don't know how to call it, the thing on top left of the switch) part and the cherry one?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 28 August 2015, 22:28:47
did the clears/linears get any special attention other than the springs and 4pin compatible, transparent housing? (specifically looking for a butter linear)

Yep! Please refer to this image (clear & black stems are the same mould) Black just happens to be easier to take a macro pic of.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bqrtVFn.jpg)



Is it me or there is a different in density in the plastic between the gateron sliding (I don't know how to call it, the thing on top left of the switch) part and the cherry one?

Are you referring that the Gateron has a bit more plastic on the rear leg in the back? If so, it does appear that the leg is more "filled in". Though it wouldn't make much of a difference in the feeling. :P The point of the pic was to show off the smoothness & roughness of the slider legs.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 29 August 2015, 04:45:59
did the clears/linears get any special attention other than the springs and 4pin compatible, transparent housing? (specifically looking for a butter linear)

Yep! Please refer to this image (clear & black stems are the same mould) Black just happens to be easier to take a macro pic of.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bqrtVFn.jpg)



Is it me or there is a different in density in the plastic between the gateron sliding (I don't know how to call it, the thing on top left of the switch) part and the cherry one?

Are you referring that the Gateron has a bit more plastic on the rear leg in the back? If so, it does appear that the leg is more "filled in". Though it wouldn't make much of a difference in the feeling. The point of the pic was to show off the smoothness & roughness of the slider legs.
That's what i tried to explain in my own terms.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mr.squishy on Sat, 05 September 2015, 01:13:12
I was going to purchase a small batch of these for a college project, but the shipping is just so much :(
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dohbot on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:06:26
Pretty sure this has been asked before but I just want to triple check before I send in my purchase, the springs are done in the korean weighting and the 62g is just a bit heavier than normal browns? Or is it a bit heavier than blues? I know 65g is suggested, and do they come factory lubed and if so what would be the advantages of lubing them ourselves?

Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: ika on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:16:26
I was going to purchase a small batch of these for a college project, but the shipping is just so much :(

Depending on when your project is due and where you live, you can ask for someone to tack on a few more switches for you and ship them out after they receive it in whatever country you live in (guessing US).
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 09 September 2015, 18:27:53
Pretty sure this has been asked before but I just want to triple check before I send in my purchase, the springs are done in the korean weighting and the 62g is just a bit heavier than normal browns? Or is it a bit heavier than blues? I know 65g is suggested, and do they come factory lubed and if so what would be the advantages of lubing them ourselves?

Thanks so much!

Yes, the springs are measured by Korean weighting system, and 62g is a bit heavier than stock Cherry MX brown/blue/red switches -- they all share the same spring.

The legs are factory lubed on Zealios. Purchasing Krytox lube is so that the end user has more control on what points they want lubed, as lubing is subjective to each person's taste.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dohbot on Wed, 09 September 2015, 19:36:05
Pretty sure this has been asked before but I just want to triple check before I send in my purchase, the springs are done in the korean weighting and the 62g is just a bit heavier than normal browns? Or is it a bit heavier than blues? I know 65g is suggested, and do they come factory lubed and if so what would be the advantages of lubing them ourselves?

Thanks so much!

Yes, the springs are measured by Korean weighting system, and 62g is a bit heavier than stock Cherry MX brown/blue/red switches -- they all share the same spring.

The legs are factory lubed on Zealios. Purchasing Krytox lube is so that the end user has more control on what points they want lubed, as lubing is subjective to each person's taste.

Great!! I'll go in for 80 62g and some lube for when things should be getting  :cool:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: ctm on Fri, 18 September 2015, 07:48:06
Can anyone compare this to Matias quiet switch?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: dohbot on Fri, 18 September 2015, 08:13:24
Can anyone compare this to Matias quiet switch?

Once they ship, I'll try.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: ctm on Fri, 18 September 2015, 08:51:03
Can anyone compare this to Matias quiet switch?

Once they ship, I'll try.
Great! Thanks!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 18 September 2015, 08:59:14
Can anyone compare this to Matias quiet switch?

In addition to this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75300.msg1868227#msg1868227), I'll add some of my thoughts here.

I really like the Zealio switch but I prefer the Matias Quiet switch. I like the higher actuation point. I REALLY like the bottom out feeling you get in the Matias Quiets because of the rubber inserts. It's a little cushiony. I think that the tactile bump is sharper feeling and not as rounded as anything MX-mount. To me, Alps tactile switches > MX-mount.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 20 September 2015, 15:23:53
Can anyone compare this to Matias quiet switch?

In addition to this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75300.msg1868227#msg1868227), I'll add some of my thoughts here.

I really like the Zealio switch but I prefer the Matias Quiet switch. I like the higher actuation point. I REALLY like the bottom out feeling you get in the Matias Quiets because of the rubber inserts. It's a little cushiony. I think that the tactile bump is sharper feeling and not as rounded as anything MX-mount. To me, Alps tactile switches > MX-mount.


You got me curious, but aren't ALPS keycaps set really hard to find?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Sun, 20 September 2015, 15:26:33
Can anyone compare this to Matias quiet switch?

In addition to this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75300.msg1868227#msg1868227), I'll add some of my thoughts here.

I really like the Zealio switch but I prefer the Matias Quiet switch. I like the higher actuation point. I REALLY like the bottom out feeling you get in the Matias Quiets because of the rubber inserts. It's a little cushiony. I think that the tactile bump is sharper feeling and not as rounded as anything MX-mount. To me, Alps tactile switches > MX-mount.


You got me curious, but aren't ALPS keycaps set really hard to find?
Matias makes switches that are essentially the same, afaik
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 20 September 2015, 15:27:57
Can anyone compare this to Matias quiet switch?

In addition to this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75300.msg1868227#msg1868227), I'll add some of my thoughts here.

I really like the Zealio switch but I prefer the Matias Quiet switch. I like the higher actuation point. I REALLY like the bottom out feeling you get in the Matias Quiets because of the rubber inserts. It's a little cushiony. I think that the tactile bump is sharper feeling and not as rounded as anything MX-mount. To me, Alps tactile switches > MX-mount.


You got me curious, but aren't ALPS keycaps set really hard to find?
Matias makes switches that are essentially the same, afaik


I meant Alps in general not particularly for the Matias switches.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 20 September 2015, 15:31:09
Modern Alps keysets in fun colors are hard to find but starting to become more common. Tai Hao sets and SP sets are starting to gain headway.

Vintage Alps keysets are common and easy to find on eBay and other places. And cheap. I've picked up Alps compatible rubber dome keyboards for $2.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 20 September 2015, 15:34:32
Modern Alps keysets in fun colors are hard to find but starting to become more common. Tai Hao sets and SP sets are starting to gain headway.

Vintage Alps keysets are common and easy to find on eBay and other places. And cheap. I've picked up Alps compatible rubber dome keyboards for $2.


Alright fair enough.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Sed8op8 on Sun, 20 September 2015, 15:52:10
Just ordered x90 65g Zealio tactiles I'm really excited to put these in my next board  :eek:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: strict on Sun, 20 September 2015, 19:20:46
Just ordered x90 65g Zealio tactiles I'm really excited to put these in my next board  :eek:

We're getting down to the wire here, Im going to have to place my order soon as well. Just not sure how many I want to go for, I'm thinking around enough to convert either my Filco or Phantom plus enough to do one more TKL board in the future.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 21 September 2015, 17:50:37
I won't have money to take many of them but I'll see if I can get at least enough for the alpha of my soon to come 60%.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: njbair on Mon, 21 September 2015, 20:21:05
Just ordered x90 65g Zealio tactiles I'm really excited to put these in my next board  :eek:

We're getting down to the wire here, Im going to have to place my order soon as well. Just not sure how many I want to go for, I'm thinking around enough to convert either my Filco or Phantom plus enough to do one more TKL board in the future.
Get twice as many as you think you need.

These babies are the future.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: blai5000 on Mon, 21 September 2015, 21:12:07
Any opinions on how the clear linear variants feel?  The reviews mostly focus on the tactile switches, doesn't go that detailed on the linears beyond saying they're similar to vintage blacks...How do they compare to regular Gateron Clears/Reds/Blacks in terms of smoothness and feel?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 21 September 2015, 21:16:58
Any opinions on how the clear linear variants feel?  The reviews mostly focus on the tactile switches, doesn't go that detailed on the linears beyond saying they're similar to vintage blacks...How do they compare to regular Gateron Clears/Reds/Blacks in terms of smoothness and feel?

All 3 of the above switches you've listed share the same mould, so the Linear line of Zealio switches will equally be as smooth. The only difference is the completely transparent housing and a more customized spring weight. 62g/65g/67g are all a bit heavier than reds, but lighter than blacks.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: blai5000 on Mon, 21 September 2015, 21:20:19
Any opinions on how the clear linear variants feel?  The reviews mostly focus on the tactile switches, doesn't go that detailed on the linears beyond saying they're similar to vintage blacks...How do they compare to regular Gateron Clears/Reds/Blacks in terms of smoothness and feel?

All 3 of the above switches you've listed share the same mould, so the Linear line of Zealio switches will equally be as smooth. The only difference is the completely transparent housing and a more customized spring weight. 62g/65g/67g are all a bit heavier than reds, but lighter than blacks.

Sounds perfect, thanks for the quick reply!  Gonna have to grab some!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: kishagi on Sat, 26 September 2015, 19:33:36
Recently ordered ~90 of both the 67g - Tactile (Purple ergo-clear stem) and the 67g - Linear (Clear stem). Looking forwards to it, cause I broke too many pins trying to desolder my Filco.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: theanyday on Tue, 29 September 2015, 21:26:29
Zeal, due to some internet issues I've seemed to have ordered the wrong weighted switches. What would the best way to change my order be? Should I just reply to the order confirmation email? Sorry for the extra work.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 29 September 2015, 21:28:15
Zeal, due to some internet issues I've seemed to have ordered the wrong weighted switches. What would the best way to change my order be? Should I just reply to the order confirmation email? Sorry for the extra work.

Reply to the order confirmation email and I'll cancel that order for you to place the correct one.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: theanyday on Tue, 29 September 2015, 22:28:10
Zeal, due to some internet issues I've seemed to have ordered the wrong weighted switches. What would the best way to change my order be? Should I just reply to the order confirmation email? Sorry for the extra work.

Reply to the order confirmation email and I'll cancel that order for you to place the correct one.

Awesome! Canceled and reordered. Thank you!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 30 September 2015, 16:36:44
Finally joined for 70 switches in case I don't like the gateron black enough.


Sadly it was too late for the binge raffle.


Thanks for organizing everything Zeal! You rock!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: romevi on Wed, 30 September 2015, 16:45:17
in case I don't like the gateron black enough.

Have you tried them? Tried them the other day and I'm in lerv.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 30 September 2015, 16:46:30
in case I don't like the gateron black enough.

Have you tried them? Tried them the other day and I'm in lerv.


I did but not a for a long time. Just a quick peak. I have them sitting in my cupboard as I don't have my 60% case yet. :'(
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: skaloola on Sat, 17 October 2015, 13:36:40
Ouch, if I would have known the price would be nearly double the GB price I would have ordered a lot more during the preorder/group buy period .. =/


edit: woops, for some reason I thought they were $0.55.. but they were $0.75.  Not too bad of a markup actually, still ends up being quite a bit of a difference when you need to buy 70 - 100 at a time.

Still eagerly awaiting for mine to arrive.. super excited to put these in my first custom.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 17 October 2015, 13:44:15
Ouch, if I would have known the price would be nearly double the GB price I would have ordered a lot more during the preorder/group buy period .. =/

Geez!

I wouldn't call a $0.22 price increase for retail sale "double" preorder/GB pricing. Customers were informed that the price would be adjusted upon the arrival of my second shipment of switches.  :-X
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: skaloola on Sat, 17 October 2015, 13:45:44
Ouch, if I would have known the price would be nearly double the GB price I would have ordered a lot more during the preorder/group buy period .. =/

Geez!

I wouldn't call a $0.22 price increase for retail sale "double" preorder/GB pricing. Customers were informed that the price would be adjusted upon the arrival of my second shipment of switches.  :-X

Yeah, my bad.  Updated my post.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: ika on Tue, 20 October 2015, 00:19:57
Cross-posting from the GB thread!

Been a long and tedious day... but it's over!
http://imgur.com/a/fvXTQ (http://imgur.com/a/fvXTQ)


More
(http://i.imgur.com/MmI4Pso.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/be9vlhs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gxoUgYV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cmEJpOz.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mesteris on Tue, 03 November 2015, 08:14:48
(http://i.imgur.com/Dm4GRfa.jpg)

Finished blue stickered zealios on the left!

Gonna be using some white stickers on some linear zealios soon! Love the transparent housings.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: enddot on Wed, 11 November 2015, 07:41:53
I'm really loving my 65g zealios with DSA profile, I haven't tried other profiles yet but will soon.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Dodgy on Tue, 15 December 2015, 16:44:32
I'm such a dummy- I'm like 10 switches short of 62g tactiles for my current build- when are these coming back in stock?

Anyone have about 10 switches they would sell?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 15 December 2015, 19:28:04
I'm such a dummy- I'm like 10 switches short of 62g tactiles for my current build- when are these coming back in stock?

Anyone have about 10 switches they would sell?

I would totally help you out if I had 62g.  :(  I can spare some 67g if you have springs or don't mind 67g in your F-row or wherever.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: iss on Wed, 23 December 2015, 08:49:18
So... now that all purple Zealios are sold out, I guess Round 2 is coming soon? :3
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: popkorn62 on Sun, 10 January 2016, 04:50:24
ugh I hope the 62g tactile will come back soon!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: UTEster750 on Sun, 10 January 2016, 04:56:01
ugh I hope the 62g tactile will come back soon!

Zeal is working on a round 2 at the moment, I believe he was planning on doing the group buy this month (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: xondat on Sun, 10 January 2016, 11:51:37
ugh I hope the 62g tactile will come back soon!

Zeal is working on a round 2 at the moment, I believe he was planning on doing the group buy this month (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

Correct - mid Jan was what he told me.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: UTEster750 on Mon, 11 January 2016, 05:15:33
ugh I hope the 62g tactile will come back soon!

Zeal is working on a round 2 at the moment, I believe he was planning on doing the group buy this month (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

Correct - mid Jan was what he told me.

Went through the other thread and found where he had said it.

I have the urge to buy some 78g switches but I have no need or reason, but I'm trying to find one :(
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: brentaarnold on Mon, 11 January 2016, 23:23:39
Need Zealios for to win.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: TrueMeta on Tue, 12 January 2016, 13:40:06
So I saw on the website "R2 Zealio Switch GB/Pre-order will come soon in January!" which is awesome and seems like what you guys are talking about. My question is, is this group buy going to be only on/through geekhack or will it be on massdrop or something similar? Basically, I'm new here and it said I needed 50 posts before participating in group buys, so will I need to have 50 posts if I want some of these in the upcoming January drop?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Tue, 12 January 2016, 14:12:37
So I saw on the website "R2 Zealio Switch GB/Pre-order will come soon in January!" which is awesome and seems like what you guys are talking about. My question is, is this group buy going to be only on/through geekhack or will it be on massdrop or something similar? Basically, I'm new here and it said I needed 50 posts before participating in group buys, so will I need to have 50 posts if I want some of these in the upcoming January drop?

I believe that it'll be on zealpc (website), but I don't think there's a minimum requirement for GB's. Most are just a google form with paypal invoicing anyways.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: TrueMeta on Tue, 12 January 2016, 14:25:02
Awesome! Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Dansor on Wed, 13 January 2016, 10:24:19
It's a bit expensive, but has anyone ever user silver epoxy (something like this http://www.amazon.com/MG-Chemicals-Two-Part-Conductive-Adhesive/dp/B008UH4DB2) to "solder" keyboard switches.

If heat is indeed relted to the zealio chattering, it seems like an easy fix.
Been tempted to try it.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Dansor on Wed, 13 January 2016, 22:00:55
Ok I suppose I was worrying over nothing :)

I got bored tonight and soldered my compact 1800 tonight, and switch hitter is showing no chattering. :)

If anyone is curious, I soldered at 650F, and didn't hold the tip on any pad for more that 3 seconds, 2 seconds for almost all of them. I figure slightly higher heat for shorter periods will lead to less heat transfer tithe plastic than lower heat for longer periods.
Anywa, thanks zeal couldn't be more happy :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 13 January 2016, 22:58:23
I soldered my Compact SQ at whatever the max heat is (Weller 40W) with some average leaded solder... The heat is on the pcb for less than a second. Had zero issues with my 65g Zealios  :thumb:
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 13 January 2016, 23:13:17
I soldered my Compact SQ at whatever the max heat is (Weller 40W) with some average leaded solder... The heat is on the pcb for less than a second. Had zero issues with my 65g Zealios  :thumb:

Nice!
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: korrelate on Sat, 16 January 2016, 19:09:00
i pulled the stems out of my 62g zealios and mounted them on brown springs in cherry housings and i have this to say:

1. yes there is a tiny bit more wobble on these stems vs. stocks. Not enough for me to ever care about thouh and afaik there is absolutely no interference with the operation of the switch.
2.  these are every bit as smooth as i had hoped. they feel absolutely terrific.
3. way easier to mount and pull keys than stock clears
4. i think they also sound great.

tl;dr if you're a wobble hound then proceed with caution - everybody else should run a nd get a set. these are better than any cherry switch i have ever tried (blue, red, clear, black, brown). they really ae smoother because they're molded better or made with better plastic... check zelio's thread for the macro shots comparing the surface of stock blacks and clears to his... the really do like that (i confirmed with a jeweler's loupe).


great job and i will definitely buy again.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: iLLucionist on Sun, 31 January 2016, 05:21:04
Are there already boards with them? Or should I go completely custom?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: jerue on Sun, 31 January 2016, 06:06:16
Are there already boards with them? Or should I go completely custom?

I have only seen the WhiteFox board sold with Zealios pre-assembled...you would have to place these in an existing board yourself. Going custom is one option...or just desolder/resolder these into the board. If you have a PCB mount keyboard with Cherry switches you can just swap the top halves/springs/sliders in without issue (except a bit of wobbling, in that case switch stickers would help a bit)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple &quot;MX Clear&quot; Switch in transparent housing
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Sun, 31 January 2016, 11:56:56
Are there already boards with them? Or should I go completely custom?

I have only seen the WhiteFox board sold with Zealios pre-assembled...you would have to place these in an existing board yourself. Going custom is one option...or just desolder/resolder these into the board. If you have a PCB mount keyboard with Cherry switches you can just swap the top halves/springs/sliders in without issue (except a bit of wobbling, in that case switch stickers would help a bit)
I'm pretty sure you had to assemble the white fox yourself if you bought zealios. (IIRC)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: iLLucionist on Sun, 31 January 2016, 14:12:15
What's smoother zealio's or gateron?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 31 January 2016, 14:20:53
What's smoother zealio's or gateron?

They are both equally smooth. However you won't be finding any purple (MX Clear stem-like) Gaterons due to our contract agreement.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: iLLucionist on Sun, 31 January 2016, 14:22:52
What's smoother zealio's or gateron?

They are both equally smooth. However you won't be finding any purple (MX Clear stem-like) Gaterons due to our contract agreement.

Those Zealio's really look super nice. Perhaps time to learn soldering and start a little project of my own in the summer and try them out.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: silaz on Sun, 18 September 2016, 20:56:13
I always see Zealio switches on custom high-end boards but I've yet to jump down the rabbit hole of making my own board. Maybe I'll have to make the jump because of all the positive things I keep hearing.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: derezzed on Sat, 22 October 2016, 22:59:39
Zeal, I'm totally satisfied with my round 1 65g tactile Zealios.  I have a batch of round 2 62g tactile Zealios that I haven't used yet and I've ordered a batch of round 4 62g Zealios, as well.   Considering that 1 set of these switches will be going into a hand-wired keyboard, do you think the difference between the round 2 switches and round 4 switches is significant enough to wait for the round 4 switches (and save the round 2 switches for a keyboard with a PCB)?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Omnipotent on Sat, 22 October 2016, 23:27:41
Those Zealio's really look super nice. Perhaps time to learn soldering and start a little project of my own in the summer and try them out.

I always see Zealio switches on custom high-end boards but I've yet to jump down the rabbit hole of making my own board. Maybe I'll have to make the jump because of all the positive things I keep hearing.

I've been thinking the same thing, haha. My next board purchase is for sure going to be one with Zealios. I can imagine it being fun to build them once you know what you're doing.  ;D
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 22 October 2016, 23:51:00
Zeal, I'm totally satisfied with my round 1 65g tactile Zealios.  I have a batch of round 2 62g tactile Zealios that I haven't used yet and I've ordered a batch of round 4 62g Zealios, as well.   Considering that 1 set of these switches will be going into a hand-wired keyboard, do you think the difference between the round 2 switches and round 4 switches is significant enough to wait for the round 4 switches (and save the round 2 switches for a keyboard with a PCB)?

All up to you and how patient you are. :)
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: B3H3M0T on Sun, 23 October 2016, 18:25:22
will bottom side switch will updated to support smd led?
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 24 October 2016, 02:05:10
will bottom side switch will updated to support smd led?

There are no plans on making a cutout for the Zealio switches. Not all PCBs have the LED sitting ontop. The Zeal60 for example has the SMD LED flush against the PCB, allowing Zealios to work on it without issue.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Heliobb on Thu, 05 January 2017, 05:28:40
I have Zealios 78g tactile on my ergodox but few switches make some noise. Do you have any advices for lubbing?

I saw Ripster's photo serie (http://imgur.com/a/lhLqo) but I'm living in France and most of products don't exist here...

For the moment I have this : http://fr.rs-online.com/web/p/graisses/0520181/
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 05 January 2017, 23:36:53
I have Zealios 78g tactile on my ergodox but few switches make some noise. Do you have any advices for lubbing?

I saw Ripster's photo serie (http://imgur.com/a/lhLqo) but I'm living in France and most of products don't exist here...

For the moment I have this : http://fr.rs-online.com/web/p/graisses/0520181/

I believe you also sent me an email, but I'll reply here as well.

I'd personally recommend picking up some the GH V4 thick lube on my site. It's a custom blend of Krytox specifically made for tactile switches/springs/stabilizers. If you're looking for something local, try finding a thick lube containing ptfe at the very least.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Heliobb on Sat, 14 January 2017, 11:17:35
Thanks a lot !
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: mk-lovers on Sun, 22 January 2017, 08:10:18
Zealios are simply mesmerizing.
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: lunr on Thu, 26 January 2017, 13:53:34
r5 soon? there were some 67g in stock yesterday when i checked, now it's all gone :(
Title: Re: Project Zealio - 62g/65g/67g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 26 January 2017, 14:09:42
r5 soon? there were some 67g in stock yesterday when i checked, now it's all gone :(

Yeah, R5 will launch end of the month/early Feb. Stay tuned.