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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #450 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 13:17:07 »
If these are smoother I wonder how will lighter Springs would work

Good question. The smoother slider may prevent the sticking issues some people have had with Ergo Clears.

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #451 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 13:32:08 »
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #452 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 14:26:51 »
Are you still taking testers/reviewers?  ;D

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« Reply #453 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 14:33:15 »
Are you still taking testers/reviewers?  ;D

Ignore Hoff, just send me 87 and I'll get em all tested for ya!  :cool:

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #454 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 18:36:30 »
Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just buy MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #455 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 18:39:31 »
Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just bought MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.

100g+ bottom out springs.
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #456 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 18:45:52 »
Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just bought MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.

100g+ bottom out springs.

This is probably crazy talk and I'll get laughed at but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Will it be possible to order the switches without the springs for a slight discount?  I see "gold" so I have no idea how much of an effect it will have on price.

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #457 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 18:47:17 »
Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just bought MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.

100g+ bottom out springs.

This is probably crazy talk and I'll get laughed at but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Will it be possible to order the switches without the springs for a slight discount?  I see "gold" so I have no idea how much of an effect it will have on price.

It wouldn't be possible to order the switches w/o springs, sorry. :( I guess for those spring swappers, you can always resell the springs inside?
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #458 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 18:53:33 »
Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just bought MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.

100g+ bottom out springs.

This is probably crazy talk and I'll get laughed at but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Will it be possible to order the switches without the springs for a slight discount?  I see "gold" so I have no idea how much of an effect it will have on price.

It wouldn't be possible to order the switches w/o springs, sorry. :( I guess for those spring swappers, you can always resell the springs inside?

Yes I'm sure some will want them - just won't know how to put a price on them :)  Maybe I can find a keyboard assembler who will take them as a form of currency.

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #459 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 19:17:08 »
Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just bought MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.

100g+ bottom out springs.

This is probably crazy talk and I'll get laughed at but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Will it be possible to order the switches without the springs for a slight discount?  I see "gold" so I have no idea how much of an effect it will have on price.

It wouldn't be possible to order the switches w/o springs, sorry. :( I guess for those spring swappers, you can always resell the springs inside?

It would actually be really excellent if you sold all the parts to the switches separate.  Taking switches apart to mod them is so annoying.  Of course, figuring out how to do that without risking damages during shipping is a problem...but still, it would make them even more appealing to me.   :thumb:

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Hey Zeal,

Just received a buckling spring keyboard today and while I love it to bits it's becoming apparent that maybe I'd want to try something stiffer.  What spring would you recommend in the Purple Gateron to get it closer to MX Gray Tactile?

"Why not just bought MX Gray Tactile now?" --> because as I understand it it's the same stem as the MX Clear with a stiffer spring; something I want to avoid due to the fat stem.

100g+ bottom out springs.

This is probably crazy talk and I'll get laughed at but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Will it be possible to order the switches without the springs for a slight discount?  I see "gold" so I have no idea how much of an effect it will have on price.

It wouldn't be possible to order the switches w/o springs, sorry. :( I guess for those spring swappers, you can always resell the springs inside?

It would actually be really excellent if you sold all the parts to the switches separate.  Taking switches apart to mod them is so annoying.  Of course, figuring out how to do that without risking damages during shipping is a problem...but still, it would make them even more appealing to me.   :thumb:
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #461 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 00:39:08 »
Hey guys, pictures incoming. I've been testing out some spring weights and how lubing affects these switches. There /may/ be a possibility that I'll be upping the weight to 65g due to the smoothness of the switches. It gives it a bit more kick and life when lubed! :eek:
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #462 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 00:47:44 »
Hey guys, pictures incoming. I've been testing out some spring weights and how lubing affects these switches. There /may/ be a possibility that I'll be upping the weight to 65g due to the smoothness of the switches. It gives it a bit more kick and life when lubed! :eek:

Exciting!

Because of the smoothness, is there a potential that a <62g spring could theoretically be used, as it would be less prone to catching on the bump on the way up?

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #463 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 00:59:46 »
Hey guys, pictures incoming. I've been testing out some spring weights and how lubing affects these switches. There /may/ be a possibility that I'll be upping the weight to 65g due to the smoothness of the switches. It gives it a bit more kick and life when lubed! :eek:

Exciting!

Because of the smoothness, is there a potential that a <62g spring could theoretically be used, as it would be less prone to catching on the bump on the way up?

I don't see why not!
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #464 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 01:37:17 »
Hey guys, pictures incoming. I've been testing out some spring weights and how lubing affects these switches. There /may/ be a possibility that I'll be upping the weight to 65g due to the smoothness of the switches. It gives it a bit more kick and life when lubed! :eek:

I really can't wait to get my hands on these! I'd be in for a slightly heavier spring!

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #465 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 01:58:20 »


Sorry for the wait guys!
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #467 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 02:29:10 »


just to confirm, cherry keycaps will fit on these right?

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #468 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 02:35:02 »
Is the leaf different to other gateron switches? Just wondering about putting the stem/spring into the older milky housing.

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Sorry if I missed it (I'm pretty new around here...) but is it still possible for me to order a set of these, or have I missed out? (also, I have no idea how much a set would be, so there's that...)

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #471 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 02:43:09 »
Hnnnnngggg. 

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« Reply #472 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 03:20:57 »
Sorry if I missed it (I'm pretty new around here...) but is it still possible for me to order a set of these, or have I missed out? (also, I have no idea how much a set would be, so there's that...)

Don't stress the group buy hasn't even started yet. Zeal has just got some testing samples for, well testing.

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Sorry if I missed it (I'm pretty new around here...) but is it still possible for me to order a set of these, or have I missed out? (also, I have no idea how much a set would be, so there's that...)

Don't stress the group buy hasn't even started yet. Zeal has just got some testing samples for, well testing.
Awesome! In that case, I definitely want to get in on this when the opportunity arises.

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #474 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 05:18:15 »
Sorry if I missed it (I'm pretty new around here...) but is it still possible for me to order a set of these, or have I missed out? (also, I have no idea how much a set would be, so there's that...)

Don't stress the group buy hasn't even started yet. Zeal has just got some testing samples for, well testing.
Awesome! In that case, I definitely want to get in on this when the opportunity arises.

Looking to make my first mech, and really want to use these switches in an Ergodox.

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #476 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 07:19:54 »
DAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMM

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #477 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 08:34:48 »
Zeal continues to raise the bar in everything he does. So impressive and can't wait to buy these switches.


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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #478 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:04:55 »
I'm confused .... you are showing bags of Gateron Purples already in the photo - does this mean there will be a Gateron Purple V2 down the line - or that you'll get to pick from two options in the GB?

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #479 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:11:23 »
I'm confused .... you are showing bags of Gateron Purples already in the photo - does this mean there will be a Gateron Purple V2 down the line - or that you'll get to pick from two options in the GB?
You'll get to pick from two options in the GB. Purple will be tactile, "milky white" (Gateron clear) will be linear.
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« Reply #481 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:48:36 »
I'm gonna have to get a picture of these Zealios in high res and set it as my wallpaper.
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« Reply #482 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 11:07:53 »
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Sorry for the wait guys!

Can I get a few?  :-*

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #483 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 14:00:36 »
ahhhhhhh i want these so bad... under $1 is a bargain since you don't have to buy clear switch tops or springs aftermarket. really interested to see how a 55g or even a 50g spring would feel in these.

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« Reply #484 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 15:17:24 »
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #486 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:01:39 »
RGB Switch Tops (One on the left) will be used for Zealios. I've tested them with GMK & other thick keycaps, and they do not catch at all!
Yes, the RGB switch tops are a bit "colder" toned.


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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #487 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:04:43 »
I must admit I was a bit lazy to catch up all the 10 pages of the topic. How will it occur? Will there be a GB or is there a form in one of these pages?

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #488 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:09:08 »
Lookin at Zeal's post be like:

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« Reply #489 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:18:11 »
I must admit I was a bit lazy to catch up all the 10 pages of the topic. How will it occur? Will there be a GB or is there a form in one of these pages?

A GB/Pre-order will happen around the end of August.
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #490 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:21:23 »
RGB Switch Tops (One on the left) will be used for Zealios. I've tested them with GMK & other thick keycaps, and they do not catch at all!
Yes, the RGB switch tops are a bit "colder" toned.
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Is there any change except for the wider slit for LEDs? I can't see any.

What I'm trying to say is, that the Zealios seem to catch or not catch keycaps like any other Gateron MX clone (which personally never had trouble with in my usage).

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #491 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:21:46 »
I must admit I was a bit lazy to catch up all the 10 pages of the topic. How will it occur? Will there be a GB or is there a form in one of these pages?

A GB/Pre-order will happen around the end of August.


Thanks for the catch-up. ;)

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #492 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:33:57 »
RGB Switch Tops (One on the left) will be used for Zealios. I've tested them with GMK & other thick keycaps, and they do not catch at all!
Yes, the RGB switch tops are a bit "colder" toned.
Show Image

Is there any change except for the wider slit for LEDs? I can't see any.

What I'm trying to say is, that the Zealios seem to catch or not catch keycaps like any other Gateron MX clone (which personally never had trouble with in my usage).

From my testing, stock gateron (milky housing) switch tops as well as clear tops (one on the right) can sometimes catch on bottom row keys such as Ctrl, Alt, etc. when pressed on in the corner/off center. With the RGB tops, this does not happen at all!

There is a bit of modification on the guiders for the slider (top and bottom of the switch top), but I wouldn't be able to pinpoint tell you which one fixed the catching.
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #493 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:38:48 »
RGB Switch Tops (One on the left) will be used for Zealios. I've tested them with GMK & other thick keycaps, and they do not catch at all!
Yes, the RGB switch tops are a bit "colder" toned.
Show Image

Is there any change except for the wider slit for LEDs? I can't see any.

What I'm trying to say is, that the Zealios seem to catch or not catch keycaps like any other Gateron MX clone (which personally never had trouble with in my usage).

From my testing, stock gateron (milky housing) switch tops as well as clear tops (one on the right) can sometimes catch on bottom row keys such as Ctrl, Alt, etc. when pressed on in the corner/off center. With the RGB tops, this does not happen at all!

There is a bit of modification on the guiders for the slider (top and bottom of the switch top), but I wouldn't be able to pinpoint tell you which one fixed the catching.

Sweeeet! Super pumped for these

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How do these switches compare to topre electrostatic domes? 55g

I have some lubed 55g type-s(silenced) domes and I was wondering the same thing!
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How do these switches compare to topre electrostatic domes? 55g

I have some lubed 55g type-s(silenced) domes and I was wondering the same thing!

Wow that's the end game! Surely these gaterons can't even compare to the feel of cup rubber
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Filco Majestouch 2 - Sakura Edition [MX Blue]
Filco Majestouch 2 - Lotus Edition [MX Brown]
Realforce 23ub - Modded with 55g Domes.
Aripeko TKL

Offline E3E

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #496 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 17:48:52 »
As the first (I think?) community-driven and community member-created switch, this is all so amazing. It's going to give people who always wanted ergos a chance to try them without having to go through the tedious switch tuning. I'm not sure that it'd be practical for me to buy these the first go around since I have enough vintage ergos left over for my next build (but I might for their RGB compatibility!).

Will there be a round 2 group buy or is our only hope to get a lower price on these through this launch GB? Thanks for all your work put into this community, Zeal!
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #497 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 17:56:13 »
As the first (I think?) community-driven and community member-created switch, this is all so amazing. It's going to give people who always wanted ergos a chance to try them without having to go through the tedious switch tuning. I'm not sure that it'd be practical for me to buy these the first go around since I have enough vintage ergos left over for my next build (but I might for their RGB compatibility!).

Will there be a round 2 group buy or is our only hope to get a lower price on these through this launch GB? Thanks for all your work put into this community, Zeal!

It'll depend on demand. I do plan on keeping these switches in constant stock, but if the demand is high, I don't see a problem with running multiple re-runs of the GB. :)
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #498 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 18:08:25 »
I need those switches, right now. (Literally: I have 4 PCB's of my prototype 60% keyboard in need of switches and the ****ing Brazilian customs are still holding my Gateron switches from the GB. :( )

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #499 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 21:21:42 »
Woops, forgot to show this pcb shot.

Lots of interesting things can be done...
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