Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:38:52
(https://i.imgur.com/hWDYyec.png)
GMK Sumi is a Set, inspired by the japanese ink painting art - sumi-e 墨絵
With the start of the Group Buy I did open this thread in the GB Section! If you want to stay up to date, just click here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107513.msg2933409#msg2933409)!
(https://i.imgur.com/DT9LBKl.jpg)
The Kits of Sumi.
(https://i.imgur.com/6d87OWd.jpg)
The Base Kit - Art of Sumi-e 墨絵
(https://i.imgur.com/EeSbYV6.jpg)
The Hiragana Alphas - Yamato 大和民族
(https://i.imgur.com/Z1TO47Y.jpg)
The Novelties - Konomi 好み
(https://i.imgur.com/sFaI2Yt.jpg)
The Spacebar Kit - Man of Culture 文化の男
(https://i.imgur.com/qZGJ33G.jpg)
The 40s and Ortho Kit - Saishōgen no 最小限の
The Kit was designed two RAL and one GMK-Basic Colour.
(https://i.imgur.com/VMWgNzA.png)
Renders with the ORI 87.
(https://i.imgur.com/htceBhR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gaYyDLK.jpg)
Renders with the RAMA U80.
(https://i.imgur.com/grrIZby.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DKSWrxN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XBWPjtk.jpg)
Renders with the AKI-S by Senryo.
(https://i.imgur.com/1rKucWi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DcIj7Rk.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/SVQuzvD.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/xes4jcD.png)
Deskmat Designs.
(https://i.imgur.com/3P4PsT6.jpg)
Bonsai 盆栽
(https://i.imgur.com/y27Dz6d.jpg)
Sakura 桜
(https://i.imgur.com/TG6lRoR.jpg)
Koi 鯉
(https://i.imgur.com/dSaPyPt.jpg)
Ghost Koi 精神
Collaboration with RAMA WORKS (R)
(https://i.imgur.com/pk1bXGl.png)
You can join my DISCORD, if you want to stay up to date and don't want miss any news regarding Sumi and my Projects!
https://discord.gg/45GE9ug (https://discord.gg/45GE9ug)
Sumi is completed.
With the changes that are now applied to the Base kit, Sumi is completed. Because of the change in the vendor listing I were able to realise the last requests for the Set. This includes the addition of all hiragana double sublegends.
I didn't felt right to me to just include some of the quaternary Keys, so I added all of them to make it a complete and more usefull Set.
The Hanko, shown on the Deskmats, did also change. It's my signature and stands for "Virtual". Just to give it some reference to me.
A minor change which will lead to better and faster colour checking phase is the change of the Pantone to RAL 3028. The new colour is pretty similar to the old one, it's just a tiny bit darker. I think the colour fits the theme even better than the Pantone.
With that being said, I'm hoping to get the pricing from GMK within the next two weeks.
The Groupbuy of this Set will start on the 15th of July!
The Groupbuy Date had to be changed due to the NA Vendor change!
Collaborations.
- RAMA WORKS(R)
- keebwerk.
- Spatzik Cables
- Primecaps
- projectkey.hk
- keebstuff Kabelmanufaktur
- Artkey Universe
Vendors.
NA: Project Keyboard https://store.projectkeyboard.com/ (https://store.projectkeyboard.com/)
EU: Candykeys https://candykeys.com/ (https://candykeys.com/)
AS: zFrontier https://en.zfrontier.com/ (https://en.zfrontier.com/)
AUS: Switchkeys https://www.switchkeys.com.au/ (https://www.switchkeys.com.au/)
CA: DeskHero https://www.deskhero.ca/ (https://www.deskhero.ca/)
~ I want to honor Rensuya for helping me with my first Steps and Kingk22 for these fantastic renders. ~
You can also follow me on Social Media
https://www.instagram.com/series.43/?hl=de
By putting this into your signiture, you're supporting me a lot!
GMK Sumi is a Set, inspired by the japanese ink painting art - sumi-e 墨絵
With the start of the Group Buy I did open this thread in the GB Section! If you want to stay up to date, just click here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=107513.msg2933409#msg2933409)!
(https://i.imgur.com/DT9LBKl.jpg)
The Kits of Sumi.
(https://i.imgur.com/6d87OWd.jpg)
The Base Kit - Art of Sumi-e 墨絵
(https://i.imgur.com/EeSbYV6.jpg)
The Hiragana Alphas - Yamato 大和民族
(https://i.imgur.com/Z1TO47Y.jpg)
The Novelties - Konomi 好み
(https://i.imgur.com/sFaI2Yt.jpg)
The Spacebar Kit - Man of Culture 文化の男
(https://i.imgur.com/qZGJ33G.jpg)
The 40s and Ortho Kit - Saishōgen no 最小限の
The Kit was designed two RAL and one GMK-Basic Colour.
(https://i.imgur.com/VMWgNzA.png)
Renders with the ORI 87.
(https://i.imgur.com/htceBhR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gaYyDLK.jpg)
Renders with the RAMA U80.
(https://i.imgur.com/grrIZby.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DKSWrxN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XBWPjtk.jpg)
Renders with the AKI-S by Senryo.
(https://i.imgur.com/1rKucWi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DcIj7Rk.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/SVQuzvD.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/xes4jcD.png)
Deskmat Designs.
(https://i.imgur.com/3P4PsT6.jpg)
Bonsai 盆栽
(https://i.imgur.com/y27Dz6d.jpg)
Sakura 桜
(https://i.imgur.com/TG6lRoR.jpg)
Koi 鯉
(https://i.imgur.com/dSaPyPt.jpg)
Ghost Koi 精神
Collaboration with RAMA WORKS (R)
(https://i.imgur.com/pk1bXGl.png)
You can join my DISCORD, if you want to stay up to date and don't want miss any news regarding Sumi and my Projects!
https://discord.gg/45GE9ug (https://discord.gg/45GE9ug)
Sumi is completed.
With the changes that are now applied to the Base kit, Sumi is completed. Because of the change in the vendor listing I were able to realise the last requests for the Set. This includes the addition of all hiragana double sublegends.
I didn't felt right to me to just include some of the quaternary Keys, so I added all of them to make it a complete and more usefull Set.
The Hanko, shown on the Deskmats, did also change. It's my signature and stands for "Virtual". Just to give it some reference to me.
A minor change which will lead to better and faster colour checking phase is the change of the Pantone to RAL 3028. The new colour is pretty similar to the old one, it's just a tiny bit darker. I think the colour fits the theme even better than the Pantone.
With that being said, I'm hoping to get the pricing from GMK within the next two weeks.
The Groupbuy of this Set will start on the 15th of July!
The Groupbuy Date had to be changed due to the NA Vendor change!
Collaborations.
- RAMA WORKS(R)
- keebwerk.
- Spatzik Cables
- Primecaps
- projectkey.hk
- keebstuff Kabelmanufaktur
- Artkey Universe
Vendors.
NA: Project Keyboard https://store.projectkeyboard.com/ (https://store.projectkeyboard.com/)
EU: Candykeys https://candykeys.com/ (https://candykeys.com/)
AS: zFrontier https://en.zfrontier.com/ (https://en.zfrontier.com/)
AUS: Switchkeys https://www.switchkeys.com.au/ (https://www.switchkeys.com.au/)
CA: DeskHero https://www.deskhero.ca/ (https://www.deskhero.ca/)
~ I want to honor Rensuya for helping me with my first Steps and Kingk22 for these fantastic renders. ~
You can also follow me on Social Media
https://www.instagram.com/series.43/?hl=de
By putting this into your signiture, you're supporting me a lot!
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Post by: Zeit on Fri, 31 January 2020, 10:33:42
Post by: Shurakai on Fri, 31 January 2020, 10:51:01
Also, please keep us ortho folks in mind, even if there's just a little bit of compatibility thrown into the base sets.
Post by: travwal on Fri, 31 January 2020, 11:01:55
Post by: mr.bean on Fri, 31 January 2020, 11:34:29
Post by: Missingnumber on Fri, 31 January 2020, 12:07:25
First, why was the hiragana set called "Ainu"? The Ainu are a race of people from the northern parts Japanese islands with a traditional culture quite different than the Japanese. It seems a bit out of place here, but maybe there is a relevant history I am unaware of.
Next, with apologies to 黒土さん, the deskmat artwork looks amateurish to me. I'm not qualified to speak on the drawings, but at the least I can say that 「インク」 is not well written. The brush strokes for the ン are even backwards. It would probably best to remove the word entirely as the katakana doesn't fit the theme in general.
Edit: Just realized the signature stamp is 墨. Whoops. I thought it was the artist's name, but now it's obvious. And I'm unsure why you would have "Sumi" as the artist's signature.
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 31 January 2020, 12:30:28
I was somewhat excited to see this because I am interested in both calligraphy and sumi-e art in general. I do like the color scheme of the keycap set, which is the most important part. However, the rest of the product could use some work.First I have to apologie for the calligraphy, but I'm not able to proper write or even read in Japanese. Im actually from germany and just satisfied with japanese culture.
First, why was the hiragana set called "Ainu"? The Ainu are a race of people from the northern parts Japanese islands with a traditional culture quite different than the Japanese. It seems a bit out of place here, but maybe there is a relevant history I am unaware of.
Next, with apologies to 黒土さん, the deskmat artwork looks amateurish to me. I'm not qualified to speak on the drawings, but at the least I can say that 「インク」 is not well written. The brush strokes for the ン are even backwards. It would probably best to remove the word entirely as the katakana doesn't fit the theme in general.
Edit: Just realized the signature stamp is 墨. Whoops. I thought it was the artist's name, but now it's obvious. And I'm unsure why you would have "Sumi" as the artist's signature.
Yeah, the artwork is not professionally drawn because it was made by me in my spare time. I'm a student in engineering, not an actual artist.
I've choosen the Word Ainu for the Hiragana alphas, because I liked to name it after a traditional japanese race, so that the set gets more of a historical touch. By looking for a suiting name in the Internet I came to this. But the Name is able to change, so there is no bound to it.
As I said in the IC, the Set is still in work and definetly needs some extra work, until it reaches perfection. So this criticism is very usefull.
(I already thought that the things google translator is telling me aren't quiet right and here is the proof.)
Thanks for your comment!
Post by: Missingnumber on Fri, 31 January 2020, 12:40:18
At the very least you should change the name from Ainu. They were a completely different people with their own language and their land (northern Honshu and Hokkaido) was taken over by the Japanese in relatively recent history. The race of people that became what we think of today as the Japanese are the Yamato (大和民族).
Edit: This isn't to say that the modern Ainu (or Ryukyuan people for that matter) aren't Japanese. They certainly are, just as much as those people of Yamato heritage or even more recent immigrants to the country. But sumi-e is not something anyone would associate with their culture.
Post by: 002 DC on Fri, 31 January 2020, 12:58:11
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 31 January 2020, 13:02:13
I'm glad you are open to criticism, because I think this is a cool project.I changed it!
At the very least you should change the name from Ainu. They were a completely different people with their own language and their land (northern Honshu and Hokkaido) was taken over by the Japanese in relatively recent history. The race of people that became what we think of today as the Japanese are the Yamato (大和民族).
Edit: This isn't to say that the modern Ainu (or Ryukyuan people for that matter) aren't Japanese. They certainly are, just as much as those people of Yamato heritage or even more recent immigrants to the country. But sumi-e is not something anyone would associate with their culture.
Thanks for your research and time spent with this issue!
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 31 January 2020, 13:10:00
- Add R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn to the base kit. A lot of people prefer these to R2 PgUp, R3 PgDn for their 65%/75% right column setups.
- The base is kind of large, so it may be worth considering removing 1.75u stepped Control and 2u Shift to help keep the price down.
- Add an extra alpha B to the spacebar kit, for ergo boards.
- 1.75c isn't a very useful spacebar key — only two or three 40% boards use it, iirc. Considering removing it, as that would save two keys.
Finally, please don't use CDN image links in your posts. Upload the images to Imgur instead. Your post looks like this in all of my browsers because of privacy/XSS settings:
(https://i.imgur.com/EeSFMRX.png)
P.S. Mandatory Hiragana in any way would kill this set for me.
Post by: belgium_waffles on Fri, 31 January 2020, 13:40:20
Post by: Abec13 on Fri, 31 January 2020, 13:52:20
gimme that deskmat
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Post by: PandaSuit on Fri, 31 January 2020, 14:39:06
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Post by: Beerbezerker on Fri, 31 January 2020, 15:17:28
Post by: nsmk on Fri, 31 January 2020, 16:18:37
Consider changing it to「ン」if you decide to keep the katakanas.
Post by: yhs on Fri, 31 January 2020, 17:40:50
Post by: Weaselpc on Fri, 31 January 2020, 17:47:16
Post by: Kawamashi on Fri, 31 January 2020, 17:48:48
I do however want all of these deskmats. Please consider putting them all out. I'd buy one of each easy.
Exactly the same here, I'll be happy to buy 'em all.
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 31 January 2020, 18:07:50
Post by: Xerpocalypse on Fri, 31 January 2020, 18:08:11
And, slightly off-topic:
Not going to lie i'm not really considering GMK Darling becasue the Deskmats didn't turn out too great and they dont have hirigana alphas. This one ha hiragana alphas AND 3 awesome deskmats so i'm already considering it greatly.
FWIW, Darling's base kit has hiragana sublegends, since you seem to be confused about that.
Post by: Honey on Fri, 31 January 2020, 18:11:08
Post by: Shurakai on Fri, 31 January 2020, 20:15:49
Those deskmats have the same problem as Mizu deskmat, when you put the keyboard on it you can't see the fish, and Mizu even had bigger fish on it.
Split ortho!
Hiragana only alpha kit, plz.
Post by: snelltrail on Fri, 31 January 2020, 21:45:09
Personally I'd prefer to see Hiragana subbed alphas in the base kit. I'd also like to see 6.25u and 7u spacebars added to the alternate alphas kit, whether the alt alphas are Latin or Hiragana-subbed. I definitely think Hiragana subs are much better than Hiragana-only alphas.
It'd also be cool to see extra B keys (Alice support) added to the spacebar kit (extra Latin B and extra Hiragana sub B ideally!!). Finally F13 would be a really nice addition as well, although that is very much the lowest priority.
Thank you for your work so far and looking forward to following this IC!
Post by: zstsc on Fri, 31 January 2020, 22:12:16
I think most of us are into those hiragana subbed alphas in the first place.
I am glad to see a WoB hiragana set aside from the pad printed OCO jap.
Is the RAL 5004 color similar to the GMK metropolis base with white legends?
Post by: octix on Fri, 31 January 2020, 22:58:48
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Post by: androo on Sat, 01 February 2020, 01:39:34
Post by: Missingnumber on Sat, 01 February 2020, 10:31:33
And if anyone actually cared about the Japanese aspect of keycaps people would include caps that help with typing in Japanese (the hiragana/katakana/romaji toggle or the half-width/full-width button) or even full JIS compatibility sets. No one uses the hiragana sublegends to type in Japanese, so it's nothing more than a novelty people can't even read. Only one other person pointing out the misspelling in Japanese in the mat shows that.
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Post by: konstantin on Sat, 01 February 2020, 13:31:04
And if anyone actually cared about the Japanese aspect of keycaps people would include caps that help with typing in Japanese (the hiragana/katakana/romaji toggle or the half-width/full-width button) or even full JIS compatibility sets. No one uses the hiragana sublegends to type in Japanese, so it's nothing more than a novelty people can't even read. Only one other person pointing out the misspelling in Japanese in the mat shows that.
Well said.
Post by: Jebus on Sat, 01 February 2020, 14:22:51
Post by: ilikerustoo on Sat, 01 February 2020, 14:32:16
Post by: zstsc on Sat, 01 February 2020, 17:05:43
I disagree with those saying that hiragana sublegends match the theme. Sumi-e is often minimalistic, and double legends look cluttered to me.
And if anyone actually cared about the Japanese aspect of keycaps people would include caps that help with typing in Japanese (the hiragana/katakana/romaji toggle or the half-width/full-width button) or even full JIS compatibility sets. No one uses the hiragana sublegends to type in Japanese, so it's nothing more than a novelty people can't even read. Only one other person pointing out the misspelling in Japanese in the mat shows that.
Latin only alphas to me look uninspired and western, and could mean anything red black white
Post by: Missingnumber on Sat, 01 February 2020, 19:06:47
Latin only alphas to me look uninspired and western, and could mean anything red black white
On the one hand, I do see what you mean about ambiguity. But I do think the simple set with just Latin looks very sumi-e to me, due to the well-matched color scheme. It could be because I have it in mind when looking at the renders, but the understated modifiers and simple text really work for me.
And FaKe_VirTual, do you have any ideas for novelties? If you plan on doing them and need ideas, a black on white enso (Zen circle) could be pretty cool if it's not too hard for manufacturing.
Here's an article on the subject:
https://medium.com/@mariogomes/analysis-of-the-ens%C5%8D-symbol-f200f0798692 (https://medium.com/@mariogomes/analysis-of-the-ens%C5%8D-symbol-f200f0798692)
Post by: alanskiii on Sat, 01 February 2020, 21:55:28
And FaKe_VirTual, do you have any ideas for novelties? If you plan on doing them and need ideas, a black on white enso (Zen circle) could be pretty cool if it's not too hard for manufacturing.
Here's an article on the subject:
https://medium.com/@mariogomes/analysis-of-the-ens%C5%8D-symbol-f200f0798692 (https://medium.com/@mariogomes/analysis-of-the-ens%C5%8D-symbol-f200f0798692)
I like this!
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Post by: CodeMayhem on Sat, 01 February 2020, 22:40:00
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Post by: DukeEsquire on Sun, 02 February 2020, 00:01:58
I saw that your adding the Hiraganas to the base kit but i think it would be even better to just offer the alpha kits separately from the mods; this way ppl that want the one not included in the base kit don't get priced out; also helps out the ortho ppl, further not pricing them out making moq more manageable.
Pretty sure GMK makes it prohibitively expensive to have separate mods and alphas.
Post by: CodeMayhem on Sun, 02 February 2020, 01:07:10
I saw that your adding the Hiraganas to the base kit but i think it would be even better to just offer the alpha kits separately from the mods; this way ppl that want the one not included in the base kit don't get priced out; also helps out the ortho ppl, further not pricing them out making moq more manageable.
Pretty sure GMK makes it prohibitively expensive to have separate mods and alphas.
dumb, glad I only want hiragana.
Post by: KEYGEM on Mon, 03 February 2020, 12:56:11
Post by: Kotahh on Mon, 03 February 2020, 13:54:39
Post by: i luv chuletas on Mon, 03 February 2020, 22:31:19
This is looking clean as hell, will be following this one closely!
Also voicing the fact that separate alphas altogether would be best, I'm just here for some mono Hiragana and some mods :cool:
Post by: Kiba on Tue, 04 February 2020, 02:25:18
Post by: stoffelduss on Tue, 04 February 2020, 05:35:25
Also, interesting that the numpad colors are inverted... not entirely sure if I like it that much, would definitely be great to see some renders with keyboards with numpads :)
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Tue, 04 February 2020, 16:21:45
Hope you like it so far!
Post by: 002 DC on Tue, 04 February 2020, 19:27:03
Post by: surfortuna on Wed, 05 February 2020, 10:35:00
Post by: Nk0 on Wed, 05 February 2020, 10:57:28
Post by: i luv chuletas on Wed, 05 February 2020, 12:30:12
With the color way and how clean the overall design looks, the Hiragana (or Katakana) would make this one a must buy for me.
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 05 February 2020, 12:45:00
Wow, 6 backslash keys in the Yamato kit! That must be a new record! However, was the top row backslash key in the lighter color maybe meant as a backtick/tilde key?
This keyset isn't actually breaking a record - SA Yuri got there first. :D
That said, I agree: the top row B-P key ought to be a backquote-tilde key instead of backslash-pipe.
Post by: Nuclear Nachos on Wed, 05 February 2020, 17:28:38
Post by: tomu on Wed, 05 February 2020, 17:34:03
Looking spicy tho
Post by: TonyPia on Thu, 06 February 2020, 12:10:58
Post by: TonyPia on Thu, 06 February 2020, 12:13:22
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Thu, 06 February 2020, 12:17:46
Decent set. I'd like to see icon mods also and R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn. Especially the Ghost Koi mat is fabulous.
Yeah I'm going to include the R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn in the Basekit soon.
And I think that the GB Date is in the range from April to June, because I haven't gotten in contact with every vendor.
But I'm trying my best to get there as soon as possible!
Post by: dak148 on Fri, 07 February 2020, 08:38:32
Post by: jagger27 on Sat, 08 February 2020, 16:24:15
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Sat, 08 February 2020, 17:08:07
No 1.5U Supers makes me sad
Soon to be changed!
Post by: Solotov on Sat, 08 February 2020, 18:33:57
Post by: TonyPia on Sat, 08 February 2020, 21:45:13
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Sun, 09 February 2020, 05:46:57
QQ. Is it intentional to have upper nav keys to have the same color as default alphas? Guess it's more common to have all mods in the same color? (and possibly alpha color mods as extra in the base kit or in another sub-kit)Yeah, that was intentional. I just wanted this set to be a little different in many ways.
I thought about that, but it would not quiet fit in the Theme of sumi-e, when the whole set would be black. Something would be missing.
Post by: kindakeyboards on Sun, 09 February 2020, 08:54:20
Post by: TonyPia on Sun, 09 February 2020, 09:12:09
If you have 75% or 65%, and your base kit remains as is, there is no way to fill navs with 1 color, either black or white.
You may want to add R1 white home and del key to support 65 and 75% while keeping your theme intact.
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Sun, 09 February 2020, 13:49:44
Actually I meant the other way around. If you follow the convention, all mods should be white (except accents) and alphas should be black.Ahh okay, now I get what you mean. This is definetly going to change, Thanks!
If you have 75% or 65%, and your base kit remains as is, there is no way to fill navs with 1 color, either black or white.
You may want to add R1 white home and del key to support 65 and 75% while keeping your theme intact.
Post by: depletedvespene on Sun, 09 February 2020, 16:49:07
Actually I meant the other way around. If you follow the convention, all mods should be white (except accents) and alphas should be black.Ahh okay, now I get what you mean. This is definetly going to change, Thanks!
If you have 75% or 65%, and your base kit remains as is, there is no way to fill navs with 1 color, either black or white.
You may want to add R1 white home and del key to support 65 and 75% while keeping your theme intact.
Don't forget R1 white Insert, too.
Post by: Emir on Sun, 09 February 2020, 18:06:29
Post by: DarkSphere00 on Sun, 09 February 2020, 18:29:56
It's beautiful and elegant and even relaxing if I might.
I am actually considering not buying Future Funk because of this...
Do you have any rough estimate on when this GB will be? If they're distant enough in time I might even afford both, I hope
One of the two Koi deskpads is an instant purchase, they're just too beautiful and it might finally be time I use a deskpad.
The keys look clean and gorgeous. I'm definitely considering the hiragana only kit, and I would please love to see a Icon modifiers kit as well!
(or just do a base kit with icon mods and hiraganas only, like GMK Masterpiece, but I don't think this will be the best choice for everyone here...)
I really wish you best luck with this set because it's simply too beautiful
Post by: joonia on Sun, 09 February 2020, 18:45:45
Post by: depletedvespene on Sun, 09 February 2020, 18:51:27
The more I look at it, The more I like it. I do think it's good.
The fact is... no matter how closely I study it, no matter how I take it apart, no matter how I break it down, it remains consistent.
I WISH YOU WERE HERE TO S... er...... sorry; got carried away a bit.
I definitely like this. The only change I'd make (besides ensuring all the necessary white mods are added) would be to correct the numpad* and numpad/ keys, which should have the legends "*" and "/" instead of "×" and "÷" (which as much as it may be the German style, it's wrong).
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Mon, 10 February 2020, 01:23:48
I love the subtle black thats not quite black and the creamy white- though I worry how well thats reproducible in plastic.
Are you planning to order some color samples or do you know if these are colors used by other sets ? (I'm guessing no on the second question as the colors are custom )
Post by: d00deitsnik on Mon, 10 February 2020, 01:41:34
This is an awesome set !
I love the subtle black thats not quite black and the creamy white- though I worry how well thats reproducible in plastic.
Are you planning to order some color samples or do you know if these are colors used by other sets ? (I'm guessing no on the second question as the colors are custom )
As far as the white goes, WS1 is the same white that's in GMK Minimal if I'm not mistaken. That might give you an idea of the white that's being used at least.
Post by: Techichi on Mon, 10 February 2020, 08:50:45
Post by: CodeMonkeyX on Tue, 11 February 2020, 13:00:50
Also, have you considered making a dark mod set as an extra? Not sure about others, but I would like the option to black out the board too.
Post by: eas on Tue, 11 February 2020, 19:21:06
Post by: dvorcol on Wed, 12 February 2020, 19:43:02
Post by: CodeMonkeyX on Thu, 13 February 2020, 00:41:26
Everything in the Spacebars kit will be convex, right?
I would imagine they would be standard GMK molds? I did not even know there was any option?
Post by: snelltrail on Thu, 13 February 2020, 05:38:17
Everything in the Spacebars kit will be convex, right?
I would imagine they would be standard GMK molds? I did not even know there was any option?
I think 1.25c and 1.75c molds now exist, so the whole spacebar kit should be convex. (Previously 1.25u and 1.75u "spacebars" were basically blank shift keys but the new convex versions give them a nice curve which is much more comfortable for spacebars.)
Post by: cnbrauns30 on Thu, 13 February 2020, 08:14:40
Post by: CodeMonkeyX on Thu, 13 February 2020, 10:08:08
Everything in the Spacebars kit will be convex, right?
I would imagine they would be standard GMK molds? I did not even know there was any option?
I think 1.25c and 1.75c molds now exist, so the whole spacebar kit should be convex. (Previously 1.25u and 1.75u "spacebars" were basically blank shift keys but the new convex versions give them a nice curve which is much more comfortable for spacebars.)
Ahhh makes sense, I was not thinking of the smaller ones.
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Thu, 13 February 2020, 13:24:29
Everything in the Spacebars kit will be convex, right?Yeah, they all should be convex
Post by: l2ic3 on Thu, 13 February 2020, 18:53:15
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Fri, 14 February 2020, 18:48:57
Suggested novelties of enso circle, simple brush stroke and Mt. Fuji.
Hiragana and spacebar kits are a solid purchase to add on to most other sets. Good stuff.
Post by: ecbob on Sat, 15 February 2020, 13:42:16
Post by: uJilliam on Sat, 15 February 2020, 14:36:57
Post by: CodeMonkeyX on Sat, 15 February 2020, 15:10:27
Can you render with a white case please?
100% un-official and just a quick Photoshop of the color, but here is a rough idea of what it will look like on a white board. I am sure they will release much better renders on white when the GB opens.
https://imgur.com/a/NP8Q2Go
Post by: ecbob on Sat, 15 February 2020, 20:34:33
Can you render with a white case please?
100% un-official and just a quick Photoshop of the color, but here is a rough idea of what it will look like on a white board. I am sure they will release much better renders on white when the GB opens.
https://imgur.com/a/NP8Q2Go
thanks bro
Post by: bananafish on Sun, 16 February 2020, 05:33:31
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 21 February 2020, 18:07:30
I'm also sorry for such a long time with no Updates.
Post by: DarkSphere00 on Fri, 21 February 2020, 18:35:52
I'm definitely in for one of dose mats.
So have you decided not to offer a icon modifiers kit too?
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Sat, 22 February 2020, 13:20:36
Awesome, can't wait to see how it'll be!
I'm definitely in for one of dose mats.
So have you decided not to offer a icon modifiers kit too?
Yes, unfortunately I'm not going to offer a stand-alone Icon Modifiers Kit, because I think this will be covered by the Novelties mostly and simple Icons don't fit the theme in my Opinion.
But thanks for the great feedback!
Post by: DarkSphere00 on Sat, 22 February 2020, 17:11:09
Yeah I agree that simple icons would not cut it...
I was pheraps thinking of something like hiragana characters, with a font that resembled ink painting or something like that.
It'd also help reduce cost for those who are only interested in the Yamato kit, without the need to get the base kit too.
But some things are just not made to happen I guess :P
In any case, it's just the beginning of the year, other great sets will surely come!
Good luck with the group buy, whenever that'll be then! And congrats again for this great work you've done
Post by: vicissitude on Sat, 22 February 2020, 18:48:45
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 28 February 2020, 07:08:21
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 28 February 2020, 07:10:30
I'm sorry for the small delay, but I think it will be next week till the release of the Update.All good man. Excited to see what it brings!
Post by: Rctic on Fri, 28 February 2020, 08:57:31
Post by: amperrsand on Fri, 28 February 2020, 21:37:48
Post by: treeleaf64 on Fri, 28 February 2020, 21:53:48
Post by: luvSIK on Sat, 29 February 2020, 02:12:07
Post by: LostGoatOnHill on Sat, 29 February 2020, 06:37:22
Post by: sdaf2 on Wed, 04 March 2020, 21:16:12
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Thu, 05 March 2020, 08:22:37
Post by: sputnikman on Thu, 05 March 2020, 10:10:42
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Thu, 05 March 2020, 10:24:34
RAL 5004 is dark blue and CR is black.
Thanks!
Post by: dvorcol on Fri, 06 March 2020, 00:30:27
Anyone able to share some insights of how this Pantone RAL 5004 compares to GMK's CR?RAL 5004 is dark blue and CR is black.
Thanks!
CR is #171718 (per Keyboard Layout Editor)
RAL 5004 is #191e28
And FWIW, Pantone and RAL are two different companies.
Post by: stoffelduss on Fri, 06 March 2020, 03:51:07
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 06 March 2020, 06:11:01
Okay, so I think there are problems with having the Home/PgUp/End/Delete et cetera keys black when they're for TKL-like layouts, but cream when they're for 65%s or 1800 style layouts. If you want to put Home/PgUp/PgDn/End in the top row for 1800 layouts, you end up with black/black/cream/cream. Similarly, if you want to have Home/PgUp/PgDn/End in a column on the right of a 65%, you get black/cream/cream/cream. You need to rethink something there, or just add a lot of keys.
I’m thinking about switching the Keys like PgUp/Dn to Modcolour so that this issue wont appear and to save a small amount of money, because of less keycaps in the Base set.
Post by: amperrsand on Fri, 06 March 2020, 11:08:18
Post by: TonyPia on Fri, 06 March 2020, 11:40:40
Would you be open to the possibility of a desk mat that is the tree one, but without the sun?That would be even better! Hmm... more headache.
Can you guys say the order of preference over those 4 mats?
I want to pick just 2, which is already too many
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 06 March 2020, 13:10:14
Post by: TonyPia on Fri, 06 March 2020, 14:17:40
ghost koi, koi, sakura
bonsai with sun - guess this has too much red
Post by: Techichi on Fri, 06 March 2020, 18:36:40
bonsai without the sun
ghost koi, koi, sakura
bonsai with sun - guess this has too much red
This
Post by: asianfork on Fri, 06 March 2020, 19:52:01
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Wed, 11 March 2020, 17:59:42
Any chance of mats being delivered before keyset? I understand things are kind of up in the air with coronavirus and all.
Thanks!
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Wed, 11 March 2020, 19:09:04
I'd buy at least both koi mats, but likely buy all 4.
Any chance of mats being delivered before keyset? I understand things are kind of up in the air with coronavirus and all.
Thanks!
I still haven't heard of the company that produces the Mats, due to corona. So I guess we'll have to wait.
Post by: amperrsand on Wed, 11 March 2020, 19:21:20
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Wed, 11 March 2020, 19:26:43
They're all beautiful either way, I just thought the bonsai might look a little more slick/flow with other keysets without the sun, or a smaller one. Like the sakura, too, but I don't know if I could own it. One of my high school crushes had a sakura tattoo, so usually I think of her when I see them.
Maybe I could send you a "modified" version of the Deskmat, so you could try your best and make it like a One-off for yourself.
I don't want to change it anymore by this time, because many People like the way it looks right now and looking at real sumi-e paintings, you'll find the sun quiet often in there too.
Post by: amperrsand on Thu, 12 March 2020, 23:24:53
Post by: Techichi on Sun, 15 March 2020, 19:29:18
Post by: YoRHannya on Wed, 18 March 2020, 16:53:43
I already have ideas on what I would like to build with it
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 20 March 2020, 07:59:40
The Update No.2 is released!
Post by: Solotov on Fri, 20 March 2020, 08:13:28
Post by: senryo on Fri, 20 March 2020, 08:54:48
I'd prefer this more than the one in the novelty right now
its more consistent with the word 「墨」 and it's more visually appealing, add my 2 cent there
Post by: hyppialonso on Fri, 20 March 2020, 09:23:04
Post by: senryo on Fri, 20 March 2020, 09:26:09
Not sure about others' opinions but as a Chinese reader, the novelty with more than two words look awkward for me especially '盆栽' and '精神', no offend but looks so silly
I cannot help but agree with you.
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 20 March 2020, 10:07:49
You also need to add a white R1 Home and white R1 PgUp if you want to cover 65%/75%/1800 layouts without mixing colors in the right column or above the numpad. Instead of doing that, I would just change all of the current 65%/75%/1800 keys to black (that includes: R1 Delete, End, PgDn; R2 PgUp; R3 PgDn; R4 End, Fn) and then just add a white R4 1u Fn for 60%s. This also lets you add R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn without needing to add a white R2 Delete.
Post by: FTR_Beat on Fri, 20 March 2020, 11:20:08
Awesome kit! Are there 2 2.25u shift keys to fit a fc660m? Sorry I can't tell by the screenshot...
Thanks.
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 20 March 2020, 11:34:19
-First post-
Awesome kit! Are there 2 2.25u shift keys to fit a fc660m? Sorry I can't tell by the screenshot...
Thanks.
There aren't at the moment. The extra 2.25u Shift is one of the keys that's missing.
Post by: FTR_Beat on Fri, 20 March 2020, 11:41:30
-First post-
Awesome kit! Are there 2 2.25u shift keys to fit a fc660m? Sorry I can't tell by the screenshot...
Thanks.
There aren't at the moment. The extra 2.25u Shift is one of the keys that's missing.
Thanks much for the reply constexpr.
Hopefully this will be added so I can join in.
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 20 March 2020, 12:01:24
R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn and extra 2.25u Shift in the base kit, please. Those keys are more common that the 2u Shift, stepped 1.75 Control and 1.5u Supers that you have in there now. Also, if you want to have 1.5u Supers for Mac and true HHKB layouts, you should add a second 1u Alt.
You also need to add a white R1 Home and white R1 PgUp if you want to cover 65%/75%/1800 layouts without mixing colors in the right column or above the numpad. Instead of doing that, I would just change all of the current 65%/75%/1800 keys to black (that includes: R1 Delete, End, PgDn; R2 PgUp; R3 PgDn; R4 End, Fn) and then just add a white R4 1u Fn for 60%s. This also lets you add R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn without needing to add a white R2 Delete.
I will be changing this soon, no worries.
-First post-
Awesome kit! Are there 2 2.25u shift keys to fit a fc660m? Sorry I can't tell by the screenshot...
Thanks.
There aren't at the moment. The extra 2.25u Shift is one of the keys that's missing.
This is also going to change. Thanks for the awareness that this wasn't already in the Set!
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 20 March 2020, 12:05:55
Not sure about others' opinions but as a Chinese reader, the novelty with more than two words look awkward for me especially '盆栽' and '精神', no offend but looks so silly
From a symmetrical standpoint I would also change this instantly, but I wanted the owner to be able to change the novelties regarding on which deskmat he is currently using.
I think this feature would be cool as an addition to the deskmats.
Post by: FTR_Beat on Fri, 20 March 2020, 12:25:23
-First post-
Awesome kit! Are there 2 2.25u shift keys to fit a fc660m? Sorry I can't tell by the screenshot...
Thanks.
There aren't at the moment. The extra 2.25u Shift is one of the keys that's missing.
This is also going to change. Thanks for the awareness that this wasn't already in the Set!
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Cool! Onward then :thumb:
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Sun, 22 March 2020, 20:43:19
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 22 March 2020, 20:48:52
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 22 March 2020, 20:57:33
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Mon, 23 March 2020, 14:30:51
Oooh tell me the red infill on the Rama caps glows in the dark
Sadly not.
Post by: harlekein on Tue, 24 March 2020, 04:33:05
Why is there PgUp and PgDn in 40s? This should be lower/raise. Having Caps in there makes no sense to me either. Who uses Caps on 40s?
I also find the additional `"` keys very strange since these are copied from the alphas kit. The only way this would apply is if they were mod colored for symmetry instead of alpha colored.
Please also consider adding an R2 1u Novelty like the circle for R1. This would be a beautiful accent key for 40s and I'd pick up that kit for that and the 1.5u R4 keys.
Post by: stoffelduss on Tue, 24 March 2020, 07:24:44
also, did you intend to only put beige 6u spacebars in the spacebar kit? it seemed like black would be the "standard" color for spacebars here.
what's the reason for 2 1u Fn keys in base? I find 1.5u super support in base also questionable...
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Tue, 24 March 2020, 08:07:27
not sure if I'm going to get this, but if I did, I'd want to use it with a numpad with split plus. you offer the - and + keys for the positions of the 2u plus, but there are no black mods that I could put above the minus key then (except for the F13, which doesn't feel like it would belong there). can you add a black = key or something like that for that position?
also, did you intend to only put beige 6u spacebars in the spacebar kit? it seemed like black would be the "standard" color for spacebars here.
what's the reason for 2 1u Fn keys in base? I find 1.5u super support in base also questionable...
I might consider adding another 6U alpha colour spacebar to it.
60s support and the 1.5U Supers are for HHKB support. I'd like to cover as much Layouts as possible with the Base kit so this choice was made.
Post by: jerrolds on Tue, 24 March 2020, 09:33:59
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Tue, 24 March 2020, 10:12:43
Post by: i luv chuletas on Tue, 24 March 2020, 11:11:51
Crazy good update mate, and hell of a lot of love for hiragana and 40's kit.
monochrome mods kit, by any chance?
Will be getting this for sure.
Post by: AEN on Tue, 24 March 2020, 11:16:40
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 24 March 2020, 12:28:05
not sure if I'm going to get this, but if I did, I'd want to use it with a numpad with split plus. you offer the - and + keys for the positions of the 2u plus, but there are no black mods that I could put above the minus key then (except for the F13, which doesn't feel like it would belong there). can you add a black = key or something like that for that position?You can use the blank R1 1u black key.
also, did you intend to only put beige 6u spacebars in the spacebar kit? it seemed like black would be the "standard" color for spacebars here.+1 for this. Most sets' spacebar kits opt to go with an accent color for the 6.25u and 7u spacebars, and alpha color for the 6u spacebar since one isn't included in the base kit.
what's the reason for 2 1u Fn keys in base? I find 1.5u super support in base also questionable...Yep, I don't think there should be two 1u Fn keys.
Post by: YangYoga on Tue, 24 March 2020, 13:56:50
Post by: FTR_Beat on Tue, 24 March 2020, 15:11:09
Any plan for additional Alphas (e.g. reversed color)?
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Tue, 24 March 2020, 15:22:25
Any plan for additional Alphas (e.g. reversed color)?
No, I don't think that I will add reversed alphas. This is because I think there are enough completly white Sets out there and the all white theme wouldn't fit sumi-e in my opinion.
Sorry.
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 24 March 2020, 16:04:40
Post by: vurtomatic on Tue, 24 March 2020, 16:23:35
Any plan for additional Alphas (e.g. reversed color)?
No, I don't think that I will add reversed alphas. This is because I think there are enough completly white Sets out there and the all white theme wouldn't fit sumi-e in my opinion.
Sorry.
What about black mods? :p
Post by: arkaell on Tue, 24 March 2020, 21:01:56
Post by: Missingnumber on Tue, 24 March 2020, 22:07:26
Good work on the vendors too! I've had good experience with thekey.company. I'm excited about July.
Post by: amarotea on Tue, 24 March 2020, 23:31:31
Post by: TonyPia on Wed, 25 March 2020, 11:28:28
I posted some comments in the Reddit thread, but I wanted to quickly say that I love the Rama caps. I'm definitely in for the 墨 one and the base set.
Good work on the vendors too! I've had good experience with thekey.company. I'm excited about July.
I guess 墨 means black ink? Why is it red in the RAMA keycap?
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Wed, 25 March 2020, 11:49:40
It's a reference to the signature you can see on the Deskmats.I posted some comments in the Reddit thread, but I wanted to quickly say that I love the Rama caps. I'm definitely in for the 墨 one and the base set.
Good work on the vendors too! I've had good experience with thekey.company. I'm excited about July.
I guess 墨 means black ink? Why is it red in the RAMA keycap?
Post by: TonyPia on Wed, 25 March 2020, 12:25:01
It's a reference to the signature you can see on the Deskmats.I posted some comments in the Reddit thread, but I wanted to quickly say that I love the Rama caps. I'm definitely in for the 墨 one and the base set.
Good work on the vendors too! I've had good experience with thekey.company. I'm excited about July.
I guess 墨 means black ink? Why is it red in the RAMA keycap?
Hmm... interesting. It looks good with the mats but not sure about artisan cap but still you probably want to keep red in the escape spot. Tough.
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Wed, 25 March 2020, 12:34:52
It's a reference to the signature you can see on the Deskmats.I posted some comments in the Reddit thread, but I wanted to quickly say that I love the Rama caps. I'm definitely in for the 墨 one and the base set.
Good work on the vendors too! I've had good experience with thekey.company. I'm excited about July.
I guess 墨 means black ink? Why is it red in the RAMA keycap?
Hmm... interesting. It looks good with the mats but not sure about artisan cap but still you probably want to keep red in the escape spot. Tough.
I could offer a red version of it with black infill like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/nxtQU5Z.png)
Post by: TonyPia on Wed, 25 March 2020, 12:41:17
It's a reference to the signature you can see on the Deskmats.I posted some comments in the Reddit thread, but I wanted to quickly say that I love the Rama caps. I'm definitely in for the 墨 one and the base set.
Good work on the vendors too! I've had good experience with thekey.company. I'm excited about July.
I guess 墨 means black ink? Why is it red in the RAMA keycap?
Hmm... interesting. It looks good with the mats but not sure about artisan cap but still you probably want to keep red in the escape spot. Tough.
I could offer a red version of it with black infill like this:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nxtQU5Z.png)
Dude, this is sick. But complying your theme how about red cap with white letter even though the letter itself says black? Not confident if it would look good enough.
Post by: Missingnumber on Wed, 25 March 2020, 16:08:19
Edit:
That being said, stamps that create red background with white text are also used commonly in art, so that would make sense as well. I guess my only argument is that it shouldn't involve black, even if the word means black ink.
Post by: deathwalker113 on Wed, 25 March 2020, 19:58:11
Post by: kokugatsu on Thu, 26 March 2020, 05:42:07
Circular brush stroke is dope though.
Post by: arkaell on Thu, 26 March 2020, 06:02:51
Post by: FTR_Beat on Fri, 27 March 2020, 10:38:28
The Kanji text on the second row of novelties look very jarring, plus they don't fit the theme or make much sense to native speakers. Would prefer a different font and different text.
Circular brush stroke is dope though.
I agree with kokugatsu's feedback. Other font for the Kanji may look nicer.
Love the inked brushed one!
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 27 March 2020, 10:56:33
Post by: TopreMoon on Fri, 27 March 2020, 14:02:30
Good luck!
Post by: FTR_Beat on Fri, 27 March 2020, 15:08:54
I would definitely be in for some deskmats. Love the keycaps, but I only have topre :'(
Good luck!
Nice, I have a Topre form daily use. But also have a cherry profile keyb to play with keycaps. Perhaps something to thing about; but watch out for the rabbit hole (not saying you should get another keyb though :))
Post by: Dorney on Fri, 27 March 2020, 22:24:23
Will definitely be picking up a deskmat or two!
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 29 March 2020, 14:53:22
Post by: joonia on Tue, 31 March 2020, 02:12:49
Post by: TopreMoon on Wed, 01 April 2020, 12:22:05
Nice, I have a Topre form daily use. But also have a cherry profile keyb to play with keycaps. Perhaps something to thing about; but watch out for the rabbit hole (not saying you should get another keyb though :))
I'm greatly considering a Tokyo60 or something for a MX compatible HHKB D: But they cost more than a HHKB!
Post by: trustworthy on Fri, 03 April 2020, 18:26:08
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Post by: NICOTINE on Sun, 05 April 2020, 21:16:01
Post by: Radium on Sun, 05 April 2020, 23:58:41
Post by: Pach on Mon, 06 April 2020, 10:30:30
Post by: 2QT2BSTR8 on Mon, 06 April 2020, 17:38:32
Awesome deskmat. Well done! I just woner when GB is started?July 1st according to Candykeys Instagram.
Post by: ecbob on Tue, 07 April 2020, 00:56:01
Post by: nettoxx7 on Tue, 07 April 2020, 12:46:46
Post by: eupho on Thu, 09 April 2020, 01:45:52
Probably also the hiragana set, but feel it would go better with a kanji only modifier set.
Post by: Hanabi on Thu, 09 April 2020, 02:34:25
Post by: phinix on Thu, 09 April 2020, 17:49:38
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 10 April 2020, 03:38:33
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/psDbqeC.jpg)
The Spacebar Kit - Man of Culture 文化の男
I think this is far too many 6u spacebars. And don't get me wrong, I like and use 6u more than most people (4 boards and counting), but 4 of them in a spacebar kit is too many. You should be fine offering just one (black, centered stem), in fact, or two at most (either one black centered, one black off-centered; or one black centered, one white centered).
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 10 April 2020, 04:42:23
OK, let's start this GB, come on:)
I will soon be releasing an Update with all relevant news to GB, Kit updating and so on.
I think this is far too many 6u spacebars. And don't get me wrong, I like and use 6u more than most people (4 boards and counting), but 4 of them in a spacebar kit is too many. You should be fine offering just one (black, centered stem), in fact, or two at most (either one black centered, one black off-centered; or one black centered, one white centered).
I'm considering this for the final Update. Thanks for the advice!
Post by: Missingnumber on Fri, 10 April 2020, 07:54:17
Post by: nudoh on Sun, 12 April 2020, 18:25:59
Post by: Ryukote on Fri, 17 April 2020, 03:59:59
I will soon be releasing an Update with all relevant news to GB, Kit updating and so on.
You will post updated info here or there is some other dedicated place for that?
I am new to this hobby, so I don't want to miss this info.
Tnx.
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 17 April 2020, 05:40:04
I would love to see how this looks on a Milk U80
Is in the works!
You will post updated info here or there is some other dedicated place for that?
I am new to this hobby, so I don't want to miss this info.
Yes, I will post any type of Update in this geekhack thread and in my discord. You can join it if you don't want to miss anything!
Post by: Ryukote on Fri, 17 April 2020, 05:49:24
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 17 April 2020, 05:59:22
I would like to join.
You can join it if you follow this link: https://discord.gg/45GE9ug (https://discord.gg/45GE9ug)
Post by: kiyoboard on Tue, 21 April 2020, 11:58:27
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Post by: Energieschleuder on Tue, 28 April 2020, 07:25:39
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 28 April 2020, 07:45:02
Very nice set indeed, my only gripe is to consider a R4 ろ instead of the む in the Yamato kit. Kana input users would definitely appreciate it
Agreed. I think the corresponding key in the base kit should have a ろ sublegend as well.
Post by: Missingnumber on Tue, 28 April 2020, 10:38:44
Very nice set indeed, my only gripe is to consider a R4 ろ instead of the む in the Yamato kit. Kana input users would definitely appreciate it
Do you know of any boards or PCBs that are MX and JIS compatible? I saw on your Masterpiece page that you got the KBDFans Tofu most of the way there with the む and ろ, but it's missing the space bar / 変換 button changes. I built an ANSI style 3 key split space bar board recently to try to imitate the 変換/無変換 functionality, but I'm sure it could be better. And I can't seem to get the QMK 変換 and 無変換 buttons to work so I'm making do with Enter and Space.
I'm sure I could improve my Japanese typing skills, but my reason for doing this is that my pinky was getting tired from hitting the Enter key so much.
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Tue, 28 April 2020, 13:21:03
anyway you can add renders of the novelties on a keeb?
Oh, I did. Ontop of the AKI-S and soon on a milk RAMA U80!
Very nice set indeed, my only gripe is to consider a R4 ろ instead of the む in the Yamato kit. Kana input users would definitely appreciate it
I think I will be able to change that!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Tue, 28 April 2020, 18:16:49
Very nice set indeed, my only gripe is to consider a R4 ろ instead of the む in the Yamato kit. Kana input users would definitely appreciate it
Do you know of any boards or PCBs that are MX and JIS compatible? I saw on your Masterpiece page that you got the KBDFans Tofu most of the way there with the む and ろ, but it's missing the space bar / 変換 button changes. I built an ANSI style 3 key split space bar board recently to try to imitate the 変換/無変換 functionality, but I'm sure it could be better. And I can't seem to get the QMK 変換 and 無変換 buttons to work so I'm making do with Enter and Space.
I'm sure I could improve my Japanese typing skills, but my reason for doing this is that my pinky was getting tired from hitting the Enter key so much.
I know a PCB indeed. Take a look at the MJ65, it's even open source. The whole build guide is on japanese though.
So, when does your GB start? :D
Post by: Missingnumber on Tue, 28 April 2020, 19:38:15
Very nice set indeed, my only gripe is to consider a R4 ろ instead of the む in the Yamato kit. Kana input users would definitely appreciate it
Do you know of any boards or PCBs that are MX and JIS compatible? I saw on your Masterpiece page that you got the KBDFans Tofu most of the way there with the む and ろ, but it's missing the space bar / 変換 button changes. I built an ANSI style 3 key split space bar board recently to try to imitate the 変換/無変換 functionality, but I'm sure it could be better. And I can't seem to get the QMK 変換 and 無変換 buttons to work so I'm making do with Enter and Space.
I'm sure I could improve my Japanese typing skills, but my reason for doing this is that my pinky was getting tired from hitting the Enter key so much.
I know a PCB indeed. Take a look at the MJ65, it's even open source. The whole build guide is on japanese though.
So, when does your GB start? :D
Ok, cool. Thank you for telling me about it! The MJ65 is very close to what I had in mind. I looked through his github repo and build guide, and it all looks very straightforward. The build guide wouldn't be hard to translate, and the author already has QMK files for a number of layouts.
The biggest problem which the author even calls out is that the default layout uses a 3.5u space bar, which looks very rare. Also, the ten buttons they have to the right of the microcontroller above the 60% board are really odd. The top plate designs don't include them, so they look naked. Even the author's example photo has them empty.
Doing a group buy could be fun. I wonder how much interest there would be. I wish the design were a bit better though.
Post by: stevenT on Wed, 29 April 2020, 00:14:01
Post by: kidviddy on Wed, 29 April 2020, 13:43:20
This is my first post -- I signed up to geekhack to say this -- but now I'm here I hope to be more active and to lend my voice to the minority of actual JIS users who want to type in Japanese! よろしくお願いします！
Post by: FTR_Beat on Wed, 29 April 2020, 19:16:04
And when is the GB again? =)
Post by: stevenT on Wed, 29 April 2020, 19:18:48
You may want to consider putting the 6.25 white spacebar in the base kit. I think this is pretty standard.nah, the alpha color is black, if another spacebar could be added to base kit, it should be in accent color(a.k.a red)
And when is the GB again? =)
Post by: kidviddy on Wed, 29 April 2020, 19:54:58
I love love love these colours but I'd like to add my voice to the users saying please add JIS R4 ろ and R1 ー keys to the hiragana set! I actually touch-type using kana input in Japanese, so any set that doesn't include these is almost unusable for me :-(
This is my first post -- I signed up to geekhack to say this -- but now I'm here I hope to be more active and to lend my voice to the minority of actual JIS users who want to type in Japanese! よろしくお願いします！
Just took another look at the hiragana set and the R4 and R1 む seem to be there just to fill the gaps for ISO/ANSI users who want to fill the slot with some sort of kana (since JIS only requires む on R3). I know that usually む goes on the key with ?/ on it, so it makes sense that an ISO user for example would want to put "that key" at the bottom-left -- but if any kana key would do why not replace it with ろ which would be correct for JIS users and still perfectly usable for ISO users? Similarly for the R1 む which for JIS users should be ー.
I don't mind having both, but if you're looking to reduce overall number of keys it's just a thought to keep total key numbers down but still satisfy both sets of users. Would that work?
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 29 April 2020, 20:39:12
but if any kana key would do why not replace it with ろ which would be correct for JIS users and still perfectly usable for ISO users? Similarly for the R1 む which for JIS users should be ー.
I don't mind having both, but if you're looking to reduce overall number of keys it's just a thought to keep total key numbers down but still satisfy both sets of users. Would that work?
This approach makes sense, and I wish that sets running hiragana (sub)legends would adopt it.
Post by: phinix on Fri, 01 May 2020, 04:15:09
I like the dark, but not black alphas and bright, but not white mods.
I need dark alphas and light mods set in my collection.
I think I'll pick it up once its on.
Definitely will take deskmat for my daughter, she loves sakura.
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 01 May 2020, 05:16:49
Post by: 3tonjack on Fri, 01 May 2020, 08:50:10
Post by: FTR_Beat on Fri, 01 May 2020, 09:15:03
Really would have liked to have the white 6.25u added to the base as standard. Any chance for that?
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 01 May 2020, 09:40:32
Awesome, I am in!
Really would have liked to have the white 6.25u added to the base as standard. Any chance for that?
Kits are set, so there won't be changes to them anymore.
Post by: noodleman on Fri, 01 May 2020, 13:02:14
Post by: Missingnumber on Fri, 01 May 2020, 13:31:25
I'm 100% in for the base kit and space bars. That 1u 無 and the enso keys in particular look great to me, so I'll probably end up getting the novelties as well.
Post by: ecbob on Fri, 01 May 2020, 15:15:45
Post by: foysauce_ on Fri, 01 May 2020, 16:51:45
Not a big fan of the small boxed Japanese characters on the deskmats. The deskmats look really good though
That's a "hanko" stamp, and it's used as the artist's signature on Japanese ink paintings. Personally I think it's a pretty necessary and nice touch because you always see it on real sumi paintings.
Post by: depletedvespene on Sat, 02 May 2020, 17:37:54
I love love love these colours but I'd like to add my voice to the users saying please add JIS R4 ろ and R1 ー keys to the hiragana set! I actually touch-type using kana input in Japanese, so any set that doesn't include these is almost unusable for me :-(
This is my first post -- I signed up to geekhack to say this -- but now I'm here I hope to be more active and to lend my voice to the minority of actual JIS users who want to type in Japanese! よろしくお願いします！
Just took another look at the hiragana set and the R4 and R1 む seem to be there just to fill the gaps for ISO/ANSI users who want to fill the slot with some sort of kana (since JIS only requires む on R3). I know that usually む goes on the key with ?/ on it, so it makes sense that an ISO user for example would want to put "that key" at the bottom-left -- but if any kana key would do why not replace it with ろ which would be correct for JIS users and still perfectly usable for ISO users? Similarly for the R1 む which for JIS users should be ー.
I don't mind having both, but if you're looking to reduce overall number of keys it's just a thought to keep total key numbers down but still satisfy both sets of users. Would that work?
I think a big part of the problem is ignorance and lack of documentation — something I've tried to fix (with the knowledge I have). It'd be great if you, Konstantin and I gathered together and produced a document that keycap set designers could use as their main reference.
Post by: kidviddy on Sat, 02 May 2020, 23:19:04
I love love love these colours but I'd like to add my voice to the users saying please add JIS R4 ろ and R1 ー keys to the hiragana set! I actually touch-type using kana input in Japanese, so any set that doesn't include these is almost unusable for me :-(
This is my first post -- I signed up to geekhack to say this -- but now I'm here I hope to be more active and to lend my voice to the minority of actual JIS users who want to type in Japanese! よろしくお願いします！
Just took another look at the hiragana set and the R4 and R1 む seem to be there just to fill the gaps for ISO/ANSI users who want to fill the slot with some sort of kana (since JIS only requires む on R3). I know that usually む goes on the key with ?/ on it, so it makes sense that an ISO user for example would want to put "that key" at the bottom-left -- but if any kana key would do why not replace it with ろ which would be correct for JIS users and still perfectly usable for ISO users? Similarly for the R1 む which for JIS users should be ー.
I don't mind having both, but if you're looking to reduce overall number of keys it's just a thought to keep total key numbers down but still satisfy both sets of users. Would that work?
I think a big part of the problem is ignorance and lack of documentation — something I've tried to fix (with the knowledge I have). It'd be great if you, Konstantin and I gathered together and produced a document that keycap set designers could use as their main reference.
Funny you should mention that -- I started writing a document soon after making this post! I think you're right, as evidenced by the fact that people have been really receptive to this sort of feedback when I've given it (including this kit, which replaced the R4 む with ろ within 24 hours of my suggesting it!). I'd like to try and distil the various considerations that keycap designers and keyboard builders might want to bear in mind into a single post (or set of posts) which we could link to in our sigs to raise awareness across the board. I think it'd be really helpful! Perhaps we should begin a thread somewhere to pool ideas?
EDIT: I see Energieschleuder suggested replacing R4 む with ろ a couple of posts before I did, so I can't take full credit for the suggestion! Still, the point still stands that this set was updated to include that change shortly after it was initially requested :-)
Post by: depletedvespene on Sun, 03 May 2020, 09:53:21
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Funny you should mention that -- I started writing a document soon after making this post! I think you're right, as evidenced by the fact that people have been really receptive to this sort of feedback when I've given it (including this kit, which replaced the R4 む with ろ within 24 hours of my suggesting it!). I'd like to try and distil the various considerations that keycap designers and keyboard builders might want to bear in mind into a single post (or set of posts) which we could link to in our sigs to raise awareness across the board. I think it'd be really helpful! Perhaps we should begin a thread somewhere to pool ideas?
I'll PM you so we can talk over the details.
Post by: ecbob on Sun, 03 May 2020, 18:17:50
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Mon, 04 May 2020, 04:34:16
Is the first deskmat based off the Sun or the Moon?The Bonsai deskmat is based of the iconic red sun.
Post by: Q_ on Tue, 05 May 2020, 15:21:24
Post by: KRY2SOON on Thu, 07 May 2020, 05:13:40
Post by: CrlaoSvloadr on Sun, 10 May 2020, 23:03:11
Fantastic work.
Post by: D3LTA on Tue, 12 May 2020, 12:36:51
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 13 May 2020, 13:56:19
- The second 1u Alt in the base kit isn't required since there are no 1.5u Super keys. You can either remove it outright, or move it to the 40s kit if you want to support ortho layouts that use 2× 1u Alt.
- 1.75u space keys are only used on 40% boards. You should at the very least move them from the spacebar kit to the 40s kit, or you can even remove them altogether (according to the 40% Discord, they're only used on three boards in total: Vortex Core, Daisy and JD40/45).
- I would also suggest including some other space keys in the 40s kit, otherwise 40% users are forced to buy the spacebar kit as well.
- See how GMK Deku (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105484.0) did its hiragana sublegends for the R1 \| and ISO keys.
- R1 \|む should be changed to \|ー (the sublegend character is a kana, not a regular dash).
- R3 \|む should be changed to #~む or R4 \|ろ should be changed to <>ろ.
- In short, this makes the sublegends compatible with Japanese layouts, and also avoids duplicate \| legends for ISO people (i.e. it makes Jae happy).
- Some keys have quaternary (top right) sublegends: 、。・「」, while others, like those on the num row, don't. If you don't like the double sublegends, you should remove them from all of the keys.
- Speaking of hiragana, see how GMK Oni (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105137.0) did its monolegends kit.
- You're missing a R1 ー key: again, this is for compatibility with Japanese layouts (more details here) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105137.msg2898781#msg2898781).
- However, what this set does better than GMK Oni is it includes spacebars, which makes this kit viable as a standalone purchase.
- I personally don't think you need numpad 00, but it's cool if you decide to leave it in.
- Just to make sure, is the blank R1 alpha character meant just as a replacement for F13?
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Wed, 13 May 2020, 14:24:23
Some feedback on the kits after the latest update:
- The second 1u Alt in the base kit isn't required since there are no 1.5u Super keys. You can either remove it outright, or move it to the 40s kit if you want to support ortho layouts that use 2× 1u Alt.
- 1.75u space keys are only used on 40% boards. You should at the very least move them from the spacebar kit to the 40s kit, or you can even remove them altogether (according to the 40% Discord, they're only used on three boards in total: Vortex Core, Daisy and JD40/45).
- I would also suggest including some other space keys in the 40s kit, otherwise 40% users are forced to buy the spacebar kit as well.
- See how GMK Deku (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105484.0) did its hiragana sublegends for the R1 \| and ISO keys.
- R1 \|む should be changed to \|ー (the sublegend character is a kana, not a regular dash).
- R3 \|む should be changed to #~む or R4 \|ろ should be changed to <>ろ.
- In short, this makes the sublegends compatible with Japanese layouts, and also avoids duplicate \| legends for ISO people (i.e. it makes Jae happy).
- Some keys have quaternary (top right) sublegends: 、。・「」, while others, like those on the num row, don't. If you don't like the double sublegends, you should remove them from all of the keys.
- Speaking of hiragana, see how GMK Oni (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105137.0) did its monolegends kit.
- You're missing a R1 ー key: again, this is for compatibility with Japanese layouts (more details here) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105137.msg2898781#msg2898781).
- However, what this set does better than GMK Oni is it includes spacebars, which makes this kit viable as a standalone purchase.
- I personally don't think you need numpad 00, but it's cool if you decide to leave it in.
- Just to make sure, is the blank R1 alpha character meant just as a replacement for F13?
oh no its the keycap police :eek:
:-*
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Wed, 13 May 2020, 14:43:35
Some feedback on the kits after the latest update:
- The second 1u Alt in the base kit isn't required since there are no 1.5u Super keys. You can either remove it outright, or move it to the 40s kit if you want to support ortho layouts that use 2× 1u Alt.
- 1.75u space keys are only used on 40% boards. You should at the very least move them from the spacebar kit to the 40s kit, or you can even remove them altogether (according to the 40% Discord, they're only used on three boards in total: Vortex Core, Daisy and JD40/45).
- I would also suggest including some other space keys in the 40s kit, otherwise 40% users are forced to buy the spacebar kit as well.
- See how GMK Deku (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105484.0) did its hiragana sublegends for the R1 \| and ISO keys.
- R1 \|む should be changed to \|ー (the sublegend character is a kana, not a regular dash).
- R3 \|む should be changed to #~む or R4 \|ろ should be changed to <>ろ.
- In short, this makes the sublegends compatible with Japanese layouts, and also avoids duplicate \| legends for ISO people (i.e. it makes Jae happy).
- Some keys have quaternary (top right) sublegends: 、。・「」, while others, like those on the num row, don't. If you don't like the double sublegends, you should remove them from all of the keys.
- Speaking of hiragana, see how GMK Oni (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105137.0) did its monolegends kit.
- You're missing a R1 ー key: again, this is for compatibility with Japanese layouts (more details here) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105137.msg2898781#msg2898781).
- However, what this set does better than GMK Oni is it includes spacebars, which makes this kit viable as a standalone purchase.
- I personally don't think you need numpad 00, but it's cool if you decide to leave it in.
- Just to make sure, is the blank R1 alpha character meant just as a replacement for F13?
First, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to write this comment.
Regarding your advices: 1. You're right with this, I think I will remove it from the Base kit. There might also be a last minor change, because I've gotten some messages regarding the JIS-Layout compatibility and I wanted to include it with my set. I think the change will also complement issues 4., 5. and 6.
And for clarifiaction the Blank key comes into place as a neutral key that can either be used as F13 key or as replacment for " - " if you decide to use R2 " - ". (Also I wanted a reference of RAL 5004 so I did also include it for that purpose :P)
Post by: mvkoto on Wed, 13 May 2020, 14:54:34
Post by: SxM Designs on Wed, 13 May 2020, 15:34:06
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 13 May 2020, 15:44:10
oh no its the keycap police :eek:
:-*
(https://i.imgur.com/9c2VsdH.png)
First, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to write this comment.
Regarding your advices: 1. You're right with this, I think I will remove it from the Base kit. There might also be a last minor change, because I've gotten some messages regarding the JIS-Layout compatibility and I wanted to include it with my set. I think the change will also complement issues 4., 5. and 6.
And for clarifiaction the Blank key comes into place as a neutral key that can either be used as F13 key or as replacment for " - " if you decide to use R2 " - ". (Also I wanted a reference of RAL 5004 so I did also include it for that purpose :P)
Sounds good :thumb:
Post by: Keltop on Thu, 14 May 2020, 22:30:23
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Mon, 18 May 2020, 11:21:57
I just added the JIS-Layout compatibility to the Set for those who asked for it.
This did also fix some aestethical problems.
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Mon, 18 May 2020, 11:34:52
I just added the JIS-Layout compatibility to the Set for those who asked for it.
This did also fix some aestethical problems.
Dude your set is gorgeous, plus it perfectly fits into my constitution which makes it almost a certain buy.
Post by: kidviddy on Mon, 18 May 2020, 22:06:57
I just added the JIS-Layout compatibility to the Set for those who asked for it.
Thanks for this! The addition of the R1 ー key makes this set perfect for kana input, and puts this set into the top tier in terms of JIS support.
Looking forward to the GB in August!
Post by: __init__ on Tue, 19 May 2020, 06:51:20
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 19 May 2020, 07:25:17
I just added the JIS-Layout compatibility to the Set for those who asked for it.
This did also fix some aestethical problems.
Looks great. Also looks cleaner now without the extra sublegends. Although I noticed you've kept the top-right sublegends on the ,<, .>, /? keys. Was this intentional?
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Tue, 19 May 2020, 09:01:34
Although I noticed you've kept the top-right sublegends on the ,<, .>, /? keys. Was this intentional?
Yes that was intentional, because for them function went over form in my opinion.
Post by: blizzara01 on Tue, 19 May 2020, 10:11:38
Great job with keyset!
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Tue, 19 May 2020, 10:14:30
Is the design for deskmat final? The red character bothers me especially with Koi and Ghost koi.
What exactly bothers you about the Hanko (red character) ?
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 19 May 2020, 11:11:52
Although I noticed you've kept the top-right sublegends on the ,<, .>, /? keys. Was this intentional?
Yes that was intentional, because for them function went over form in my opinion.
Alright. In that case, would including the を (wo) kana above the わ (wa) kana on the 0)わ key be something that you would also consider? Explanation: Unlike the quaternary legends on the rest of the number row keys, which are just smaller versions of the existing ternary kana legends, the を atop わ is a different kana altogether, so function might surpass form in this case as well.
Post by: Missingnumber on Tue, 19 May 2020, 11:59:30
Although I noticed you've kept the top-right sublegends on the ,<, .>, /? keys. Was this intentional?
Yes that was intentional, because for them function went over form in my opinion.
Alright. In that case, would including the を (wo) kana above the わ (wa) kana on the 0)わ key be something that you would also consider? Explanation: Unlike the quaternary legends on the rest of the number row keys, which are just smaller versions of the existing ternary kana legends, the を atop わ is a different kana altogether, so function might surpass form in this case as well.
I really appreciate the punctuation sublegends. The following top-right sublegends could also be considered:
「 on the [{ key
」 on the ]} key
￥ on the \| key
In terms of row number, the「 and 」 keys aren't the exact JIS locations, but that's where they are input on ANSI and ISO layouts.
The only thing else I would want personally would be a ひらがな/カタカナ (or just ひらがな) key, which I'll probably use a Super key for. The 変換 keys and 半角全角 key would be fun, but I don't think they would fit on any layout I can use.
Off topic, but I'm having a lot of success mapping the (無)変換 functionality to a three button split spacebar layout. This and other threads have made me think about how to improve my Japanese typing recently.
Post by: Keyjus on Tue, 19 May 2020, 12:41:23
Post by: mvkoto on Tue, 19 May 2020, 13:22:04
Can we get a reverse version of the bonsai deskmat. That would be really awesome!+1
Post by: GhostEther on Wed, 20 May 2020, 09:44:36
Post by: reaLFX on Wed, 20 May 2020, 12:11:29
Post by: DonaldPShimoda on Wed, 20 May 2020, 12:23:32
I love the ghost koi desk mat, I want to like the key sets, but just not a fan of jap legends.
I'm sure you didn't mean it this way, but abbreviating "Japanese" as "Jap" is generally considered an ethnic slur in English (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap). Just a friendly FYI for the future. :)
Post by: reaLFX on Wed, 20 May 2020, 12:30:33
I love the ghost koi desk mat, I want to like the key sets, but just not a fan of jap legends.
I'm sure you didn't mean it this way, but abbreviating "Japanese" as "Jap" is generally considered an ethnic slur in English (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap). Just a friendly FYI for the future. :)
Thanks for the heads up! Excuse my slangs.
Post by: LordOwen on Fri, 22 May 2020, 10:16:27
Post by: mvkoto on Fri, 22 May 2020, 12:28:35
As someone who just spent four years living in Hiroshima, if nothing else, that Torii Rama cap needs to find its way to my home... Along with just about everything else about this set that I love, unconditionally!
haha same here. how long have you been in japan? i have family there
Post by: LordOwen on Sat, 23 May 2020, 02:45:21
As someone who just spent four years living in Hiroshima, if nothing else, that Torii Rama cap needs to find its way to my home... Along with just about everything else about this set that I love, unconditionally!
haha same here. how long have you been in japan? i have family there
This is my 5th year! One year in Matsue, four in Hiroshima, and now, starting life in Tokyo from March, just in time for everything to close ;D
I hope your family is doing okay!!!!
Post by: BloodyMarvel on Sat, 23 May 2020, 22:00:07
WHY, DAMN YOU, WHY??!!
OK, fine. I guess one more won't hurt...
Post by: lamp on Sat, 23 May 2020, 22:46:03
Post by: Silverion77 on Mon, 01 June 2020, 02:04:52
That said, I would hate to get the set to end up not using half of the alphas. Dilemma indeed....
Post by: Toastawar on Mon, 01 June 2020, 04:41:34
Post by: Chobo on Mon, 01 June 2020, 12:22:57
Post by: sedxr on Thu, 04 June 2020, 16:47:02
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 04 June 2020, 16:51:45
Although I noticed you've kept the top-right sublegends on the ,<, .>, /? keys. Was this intentional? CV
Yes that was intentional, because for them function went over form in my opinion.
Alright. In that case, would including the を (wo) kana above the わ (wa) kana on the 0)わ key be something that you would also consider? Explanation: Unlike the quaternary legends on the rest of the number row keys, which are just smaller versions of the existing ternary kana legends, the を atop わ is a different kana altogether, so function might surpass form in this case as well.
FaKe_VirTual, have you had the chance to think this suggestion over?
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Thu, 04 June 2020, 17:15:20
FaKe_VirTual, have you had the chance to think this suggestion over?
Yes, I did think about it, but sadly the Kits have already been sent to GMK for a price reference, so it would cause a lot of trouble changing this by now.
I'm sorry for that.
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 04 June 2020, 18:23:29
Yes, I did think about it, but sadly the Kits have already been sent to GMK for a price reference, so it would cause a lot of trouble changing this by now.
I'm sorry for that.
Alright, no worries. FYI, during the Yugo IC/GB, we were able to change one of the legends that was incorrect way after we had finalized the kits (we realized too late that it was incorrect). As long as it isn't adding or removing keys, the quotes are still valid and GMK are very open to discussing changes like that, since, at the end of the day, it results in a better product.
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 05 June 2020, 04:48:28
Yes, I did think about it, but sadly the Kits have already been sent to GMK for a price reference, so it would cause a lot of trouble changing this by now.
I'm sorry for that.
Alright, no worries. FYI, during the Yugo IC/GB, we were able to change one of the legends that was incorrect way after we had finalized the kits (we realized too late that it was incorrect). As long as it isn't adding or removing keys, the quotes are still valid and GMK are very open to discussing changes like that, since, at the end of the day, it results in a better product.
Then I will try my best to change it! Thanks for making me aware!
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 05 June 2020, 05:44:12
Then I will try my best to change it! Thanks for making me aware!
Great :) Another caveat is that the mold for the legend you're changing to obviously has to already exist for it to not affect the quote, but in this case it certainly does exist, so you should be good.
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 05 June 2020, 05:47:43
Then I will try my best to change it! Thanks for making me aware!
Great :) Another caveat is that the mold for the legend you're changing to obviously has to already exist for it to not affect the quote, but in this case the molds with を, 「, 」 certainly do exist, so you should be good.
Post by: phinix on Fri, 05 June 2020, 19:09:20
like very dark grey?
Also, that white is like off-white? like dirty white, isn't it?
Post by: DuellM on Fri, 05 June 2020, 20:42:10
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Sat, 06 June 2020, 03:23:16
So this black is like ink-black, not quite black is it?
like very dark grey?
Also, that white is like off-white? like dirty white, isn't it?
The "Black" is a very dark blue, which looks like black at the first glance, but if you look closer, you can see that it's blue.
The white is GMK's WS1, a slightly off-white with a minimal warm tone.
Post by: BloodyMarvel on Sat, 06 June 2020, 03:49:53
Man that red Rama cap looks so awesome shame it didn't make the cut.
What do you mean? Was there a third Rama cap that got cut? Can't remember seeing one.
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Sat, 06 June 2020, 05:31:45
You can see the ORI over here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106031.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106031.0)
Post by: dlavelle94 on Sat, 06 June 2020, 06:20:16
Post by: BruceDinh on Sat, 06 June 2020, 11:07:44
Have a look at the new renderings of Sumi with the ORI 87, made by BruceDinh.
You can see the ORI over here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106031.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106031.0)
Very pleased!!! :cool:
Post by: BloodyMarvel on Sat, 06 June 2020, 12:27:37
Did not know this board was in the works.
Post by: DuellM on Sat, 06 June 2020, 12:38:41
Man that red Rama cap looks so awesome shame it didn't make the cut.
What do you mean? Was there a third Rama cap that got cut? Can't remember seeing one.
(https://i.imgur.com/nxtQU5Z.png)
This is the cap
Post by: phinix on Sat, 06 June 2020, 16:49:57
So this black is like ink-black, not quite black is it?
like very dark grey?
Also, that white is like off-white? like dirty white, isn't it?
The "Black" is a very dark blue, which looks like black at the first glance, but if you look closer, you can see that it's blue.
The white is GMK's WS1, a slightly off-white with a minimal warm tone.
Sounds beautiful! :D
Post by: tofulo on Sat, 06 June 2020, 20:56:41
Post by: BloodyMarvel on Sun, 07 June 2020, 14:36:16
Man that red Rama cap looks so awesome shame it didn't make the cut.
What do you mean? Was there a third Rama cap that got cut? Can't remember seeing one.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nxtQU5Z.png)
Dayum, that looks way better than the white Sumi cap. Especially considering the Torii cap is already in white (which I think is perfect).
This is the cap
Post by: ufomer on Mon, 08 June 2020, 06:17:50
Honestly I agree, this cap is gorgeous. Have the Tori gate + this red one. It's amazingMan that red Rama cap looks so awesome shame it didn't make the cut.
What do you mean? Was there a third Rama cap that got cut? Can't remember seeing one.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nxtQU5Z.png)
Dayum, that looks way better than the white Sumi cap. Especially considering the Torii cap is already in white (which I think is perfect).
This is the cap
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Post by: prizeS on Mon, 08 June 2020, 06:42:27
Man that red Rama cap looks so awesome shame it didn't make the cut.
What do you mean? Was there a third Rama cap that got cut? Can't remember seeing one.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nxtQU5Z.png)
This is the cap
wait THIS ONE was cut??!! this one should be the one that gets made; white ones are nice too but i'd totally buy this one too if this was made
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Mon, 08 June 2020, 06:59:34
Man that red Rama cap looks so awesome shame it didn't make the cut.
What do you mean? Was there a third Rama cap that got cut? Can't remember seeing one.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nxtQU5Z.png)
This is the cap
wait THIS ONE was cut??!! this one should be the one that gets made; white ones are nice too but i'd totally buy this one too if this was made
I think I need to give you guys a reason on why I cutted that one.
The point is that it wouldn't fit the scheme thats going on in the Set. As a standalone Cap it is nice, that's totally right, but with the Sumi-e inspiration in mind, it doesn't fit as good as the white one.
If you take a look at the Novelties, the red is always a minor accent, because the red colour is generally refering to the Hanko in Sumi-e paintings. There it's always just a small splash of red, which gives the painting a littble bit of vibrancy.
I don't want to get away from this inspiration, because with the all red cap, it would be straight in your face. I'm aware that the Basekit features the all red Esc and Enter Keys, but thats just because it's the Base kit and the full aestethic of Sumi will be reached with the Novelties in my opinion.
I hope that this clearifys the decision on why I cutted the Cap.
Post by: prizeS on Mon, 08 June 2020, 18:23:27
I think I need to give you guys a reason on why I cutted that one.
The point is that it wouldn't fit the scheme thats going on in the Set. As a standalone Cap it is nice, that's totally right, but with the Sumi-e inspiration in mind, it doesn't fit as good as the white one.
If you take a look at the Novelties, the red is always a minor accent, because the red colour is generally refering to the Hanko in Sumi-e paintings. There it's always just a small splash of red, which gives the painting a littble bit of vibrancy.
I don't want to get away from this inspiration, because with the all red cap, it would be straight in your face. I'm aware that the Basekit features the all red Esc and Enter Keys, but thats just because it's the Base kit and the full aestethic of Sumi will be reached with the Novelties in my opinion.
I hope that this clearifys the decision on why I cutted the Cap.
nah that totally makes sense. still bummed tho, would loved to have that cap. most of the time i actually don't run my Rama artisans on my build but i keep them in my artisan box. anyways, looking forward to the GB.
Post by: BloodyMarvel on Mon, 08 June 2020, 20:44:12
Any chance of a rework to a more detailed design, or maybe a red or pink pad printed sakura blossom?
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 12 June 2020, 07:27:36
So we had a small change in our Vendor lineup. That has resulted in a changed GB Date.
The Groupbuy will be on the 15th of July. The new Vendor for US is Project Keyboard!
Post by: Energieschleuder on Fri, 12 June 2020, 07:33:42
Hey Guys!
So we had a small change in our Vendor lineup. That has resulted in a changed GB Date.
The Groupbuy will be on the 15th of July. The new Vendor for NA is Project Keyboard!
A good choice!
Post by: prizeS on Fri, 12 June 2020, 08:25:47
Hey Guys!
So we had a small change in our Vendor lineup. That has resulted in a changed GB Date.
The Groupbuy will be on the 15th of July. The new Vendor for NA is Project Keyboard!
oh my. july is looking like it will destroy my budget. oh well.
Post by: SxM Designs on Fri, 12 June 2020, 09:50:13
Post by: mvkoto on Fri, 12 June 2020, 16:27:38
Hey Guys!
So we had a small change in our Vendor lineup. That has resulted in a changed GB Date.
The Groupbuy will be on the 15th of July. The new Vendor for NA is Project Keyboard!
This is excellent! Now we can get it half a month earlier too.
Post by: Pluto19 on Sun, 14 June 2020, 19:16:38
Post by: itsbeard on Sun, 14 June 2020, 21:05:25
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Tue, 16 June 2020, 10:14:38
With that being said, Sumi is now finished.
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 16 June 2020, 10:48:17
I were able to change the requested things and the Hanko on the Deskmats, due to the vendor change.
With that being said, Sumi is now finished.
🙌
Eagerly awaiting the start of the GB.
Post by: ufomer on Tue, 16 June 2020, 11:06:36
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Post by: Missingnumber on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:08:50
I'm not planning on getting anything other than the keycaps, but I am curious about the "hanko" change to 仮想 (virtual).
Post by: wangchar on Wed, 17 June 2020, 11:27:09
I were able to change the requested things and the Hanko on the Deskmats, due to the vendor change.
With that being said, Sumi is now finished.
Now the wait begins. However, really wish that Hanko was not changed. personally can I relate more to 墨 as I used to draw and write with it. Bummer.
Post by: Snakey on Wed, 17 June 2020, 17:15:25
Post by: mvkoto on Wed, 17 June 2020, 17:54:46
Post by: OXY-Gen on Thu, 18 June 2020, 22:14:31
Post by: solomonshv on Sun, 21 June 2020, 19:48:01
Post by: LordOwen on Sun, 21 June 2020, 20:23:24
Post by: mvkoto on Mon, 22 June 2020, 11:54:27
no word on pricing yet, right? im guessing $135 for base?
here's to hoping it's a little less. I know one factor that is considered in pricing is how many non-basic colors are used. what other things are looked at?
Post by: prizeS on Mon, 22 June 2020, 19:33:52
no word on pricing yet, right? im guessing $135 for base?
here's to hoping it's a little less. I know one factor that is considered in pricing is how many non-basic colors are used. what other things are looked at?
how many keys are included in the base kit, MOQ, and also how many new molds are needed. lots of factors.
Post by: typhon32 on Mon, 22 June 2020, 20:53:03
would that be enough keys?
Thanks!
Post by: kidpid on Mon, 22 June 2020, 22:07:41
this might be a dumb question im asking but could i just purchase the hiragana set and the novelties for a 60% keyboard?
would that be enough keys?
Thanks!
No, you'd be missing several modifier keys.
Post by: CoolMike on Tue, 23 June 2020, 08:08:57
Ready for GB. GLW everything!
Mike
Post by: lamonayon on Tue, 23 June 2020, 14:03:29
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Tue, 23 June 2020, 16:45:05
From the July 15th GB, do we know how long will it run? And how many months are the targeted shipment date? Thanks all!
The GB will run till the 15th of august, so exactly one Month.
Expect Q2 of 2021 for shipping.
Post by: SxM Designs on Tue, 23 June 2020, 17:17:40
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Tue, 23 June 2020, 17:26:17
q2 2021 ? :( Thats like a year
Sadly yes, i mean we're near to Q3 of 2020 and the GB will end in August this year. Considering that it takes GMK about 7 Months to complete the whole production and QC, we're already in March to April. With shipping and so on, I think that Q2 of 2021 will be quiet accurate.
Trust me, I wish I could speed things up so the Set would deliver earlier, but that's outside of my possiblities.
Post by: phinix on Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:00:52
Or could these be manufactured and delivered sooner?
How does this work?
Post by: SxM Designs on Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:06:01
Yeah I know. Goodluck with the GB. Definitely onboard this one.q2 2021 ? :( Thats like a year
Sadly yes, i mean we're near to Q3 of 2020 and the GB will end in August this year. Considering that it takes GMK about 7 Months to complete the whole production and QC, we're already in March to April. With shipping and so on, I think that Q2 of 2021 will be quiet accurate.
Trust me, I wish I could speed things up so the Set would deliver earlier, but that's outside of my possiblities.
Post by: CustomerSupport on Thu, 25 June 2020, 20:44:11
Post by: KurageOuji on Thu, 25 June 2020, 21:16:20
Post by: NaviUy on Thu, 25 June 2020, 22:08:23
Can anyone translate what the novelty keys say though?
Post by: kokugatsu on Fri, 26 June 2020, 02:08:39
Looks fantastic! I planning on getting these for my first build.Ink
Can anyone translate what the novelty keys say though?
Zen, Mu (Nothingness), Koi, Sakura
Post by: ecbob on Fri, 26 June 2020, 17:46:53
Post by: frankfrankfrank on Fri, 26 June 2020, 17:50:32
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Sat, 27 June 2020, 03:58:48
Who's the artist that created the novelties?
I did them.
Post by: NaviUy on Sat, 27 June 2020, 04:05:26
Looks fantastic! I planning on getting these for my first build.Ink
Can anyone translate what the novelty keys say though?
Zen, Mu (Nothingness), Koi, Sakura
Thanks :D
Post by: brandkeebs on Sun, 28 June 2020, 20:05:18
Post by: Gooba on Sun, 28 June 2020, 20:09:16
Post by: BloodyMarvel on Mon, 29 June 2020, 01:03:47
Cant wait
You'll hafta tho. No choice.
Post by: strfcker on Wed, 01 July 2020, 02:01:08
Post by: DaangDavid on Wed, 01 July 2020, 02:20:01
Post by: Pach on Wed, 01 July 2020, 16:47:53
Post by: Nutty on Tue, 07 July 2020, 18:39:14
Post by: beigeandbrown on Fri, 10 July 2020, 04:04:21
Post by: supernova on Fri, 10 July 2020, 04:19:06
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 10 July 2020, 04:26:20
Post by: phinix on Fri, 10 July 2020, 04:51:14
Is it me or are these changed color? Like these are darker now?
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Fri, 10 July 2020, 07:23:16
Will deskmats be delivered sooner than caps?
Is it me or are these changed color? Like these are darker now?
Yeah, the Mats will probably be delivered earlier than the Set.
And yes, the colours changed a tiny bit, because I had to convert them into the CMYK Profile. This was due to the working method of the printers which will produce the Mats. Another factor is, that the new picture is an actual render instead of the raw image I showed before.
Post by: Koh11 on Fri, 10 July 2020, 14:06:52
Post by: getlazy on Fri, 10 July 2020, 14:28:25
But it looks like Im about to get 4 new mats :)
Post by: titanium on Fri, 10 July 2020, 14:32:56
Post by: nu_types on Fri, 10 July 2020, 15:24:39
Edit: is see that OP has mentioned it. But see that some people are still referring to it as black.
Post by: Roche on Fri, 10 July 2020, 21:09:33
Also not sure if it's been brought up, but the final RAL for the red is very orange. I have an RAL color chip deck from the source and I haven't found lighting yet that makes it look like the red on the desk mats.
Post by: SwitchKeys on Fri, 10 July 2020, 21:47:17
Dang, found out about this too late to provide feedback when it counted. I am so close to wanting this set but for the split legends being in the base kit. I feel like the fact that the hiragana only caps were the ones used in all the renders shows that obviously everyone involved thought it looked so much better, then choked that it's a whole extra set, instead of the mixed legends being the extra.Those renders look very much blue to me.
Also not sure if it's been brought up, but the final RAL for the red is very orange. I have an RAL color chip deck from the source and I haven't found lighting yet that makes it look like the red on the desk mats.
Post by: Missingnumber on Sat, 11 July 2020, 06:32:55
Dang, found out about this too late to provide feedback when it counted. I am so close to wanting this set but for the split legends being in the base kit. I feel like the fact that the hiragana only caps were the ones used in all the renders shows that obviously everyone involved thought it looked so much better, then choked that it's a whole extra set, instead of the mixed legends being the extra.
Also not sure if it's been brought up, but the final RAL for the red is very orange. I have an RAL color chip deck from the source and I haven't found lighting yet that makes it look like the red on the desk mats.
Certainly not everyone wanted hiragana only. I wanted the base kit to be Latin only, but the Latin option was entirely removed. I wouldn't consider getting the set if the base was hiragana only.
Also, RAL 3028 is called "Pure Red". I don't own the chips myself, but there is no picture online that makes it look orange. It looks to be a commonly used color as well. But it would be pretty sad if it did end up looking orange.
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Sat, 11 July 2020, 07:12:14
You can clearly see that it is red. To make it even more clear, I added the Orange in comparison.
(https://i.imgur.com/LO1v6EG.jpg)
Post by: FireLock on Sat, 11 July 2020, 08:45:50
Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk
Post by: kwerty on Mon, 13 July 2020, 15:15:20
Post by: SxM Designs on Tue, 14 July 2020, 10:57:12
Post by: FaKe_VirTual on Tue, 14 July 2020, 12:45:19
any updates on the price?
I will release the pricing with the start of the Group Buy in a couple hours!
Post by: ..//dexx on Tue, 14 July 2020, 14:32:49
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 14 July 2020, 18:47:32
Post by: iFuwy on Wed, 15 July 2020, 02:31:53
Post by: Ookamice on Wed, 15 July 2020, 11:17:43
Maybe I'm just blind...
Post by: hrco999 on Wed, 15 July 2020, 11:20:06
It doesn't look like its on Candykeys yet even tho it's on the other vendors :c
Maybe I'm just blind...
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/hrljw1/gb_gmk_sumis_group_buy_is_live/
It goes live at 7pm CET
Post by: Ookamice on Wed, 15 July 2020, 11:33:31
It doesn't look like its on Candykeys yet even tho it's on the other vendors :c
Maybe I'm just blind...
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/hrljw1/gb_gmk_sumis_group_buy_is_live/
It goes live at 7pm CET
:thumb: my bad
Post by: majes on Thu, 16 July 2020, 12:57:52
Post by: OtherAndrew on Thu, 16 July 2020, 16:12:11