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« Reply #200 on: Tue, 01 November 2011, 06:02:20 »
I'd be down for a couple of escape keys and rgb sets, especially since there's an ISO option.
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« Reply #201 on: Tue, 01 November 2011, 11:05:33 »
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« Reply #202 on: Wed, 02 November 2011, 00:34:13 »
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« Reply #203 on: Wed, 02 November 2011, 01:37:24 »
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« Reply #204 on: Wed, 02 November 2011, 02:56:48 »
Day 11: 83-94 REDESC, 33-37 RGBY in total.

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« Reply #205 on: Wed, 02 November 2011, 03:03:02 »
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Day 11: 83-94 REDESC, 33-37 RGBY in total.

I am sooooooo excited.
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« Reply #206 on: Wed, 02 November 2011, 03:06:11 »
Yeah it's shaping up well.  50 RGBYs is looking more and more plausible...

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« Reply #207 on: Wed, 02 November 2011, 03:06:45 »
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Yeah it's shaping up well.  50 RGBYs is looking more and more plausible...

What is the Blue that is being used? Also, the Green and Red would be nice to know as well.
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« Reply #208 on: Wed, 02 November 2011, 03:13:13 »
The plan is to use the red and green from aggiejy's buy (RA and VCM).  I'm hoping to hear back from sixty on which blue and yellow he used in the Rebel kits.  Looking at the images below, I think sixty's blue is BOH.  I really like either that or BFK.  Yellow, I'm not so sure.  The Rebel kit yellow looks really intense, which seems to rule out everything except YBP.  However, in the sample image YBP looks almost orange.  Dunno, maybe YCF?

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« Reply #209 on: Wed, 02 November 2011, 03:16:22 »
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The plan is to use the red and green from aggiejy's buy (RA and VCM).  I'm hoping to hear back from sixty on which blue and yellow he used in the Rebel kits.  Looking at the images below, I think sixty's blue is BOH.  I really like either that or BFK.  Yellow, I'm not so sure.  The Rebel kit yellow looks really intense, which seems to rule out everything except YBP.  However, in the sample image YBP looks almost orange.  Dunno, maybe YCF?

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hmmm... Good call on Aggiejy's Red and Green. I am on the fence as to whether I am in love with my Blue from his set or if I hate it completely. I am a fan of lighter blues over darker so I would prefer BOH over BFK myself.

As a piece reference: The Yellow from the Awesome Key/ Nuclear keys will be YY. YBP is orange.
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« Reply #210 on: Wed, 02 November 2011, 03:43:45 »
Still no word from sixty. However I found this pic on DT:
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Genuine cherry sublimated RGB on the left.

EDIT: Also, better pic of SP samples, stolen from kbdholic.
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« Reply #211 on: Wed, 02 November 2011, 10:31:12 »
Grond: Awesome find, those colour match up really nice, really feeling the BFP for the blue, but the green on the cherry dyesubs seems to be darker would VCJ match it better?
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« Reply #212 on: Wed, 02 November 2011, 13:02:19 »
I have the same impression. I'm sure that Sixty looked for the best matching colors, though. Probably there's not a perfectly matching green among the SP color choice, so if we choose VCJ we probably end up with a slightly darker green than the original. I don't really mind, both VCJ and VCS are fine for me. But I believe there is must be a reason if Sixty chose VCS.

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« Reply #213 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 00:33:38 »
Quote from: Grond;443932
Still no word from sixty. However I found this pic on DT:
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Genuine cherry sublimated RGB on the left.

EDIT: Also, better pic of SP samples, stolen from kbdholic.
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Thanks for posting this, Grond.

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« Reply #214 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 10:17:23 »
Question for the ISO people: should the ISO left Shift have just an arrow, or arrow plus the word "Shift"?

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« Reply #215 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 10:42:14 »
It's just an arrow. The word "shift" won't fit anyway.
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« Reply #216 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 10:50:38 »
So right Shift will have "shift", but not left?

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« Reply #217 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 11:05:00 »
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So right Shift will have "shift", but not left?

In original ISO sets, none of the two shifts sports the "shift" word. It's just an arrow on both. Backspace is also just an arrow. "Enter", however, does have a word ("Invio" on italian sets). So I don't mind having "shift" on the right shift.

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« Reply #218 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 11:12:07 »
Quote from: ripster;444896
Here's some closeup pics of the Cherry Esc key (the red is the same font) and the Meta key from Group Buy One.  Meta  Group Buy One>>>> Meta Group Buy Three.  You meta believe it!

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Thanks ripster.  Any chance you could get your red Escape in the same image as a black and/or white Escape?  cycloverid is concerned about how the different versions vary in line thickness.

Personally, I kind of think we should just copy the thickness of the black Escape, since I suspect that's what most of us will be pairing this set with.

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« Reply #219 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 11:13:42 »
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In original ISO sets, none of the two shifts sports the "shift" word. It's just an arrow on both. Backspace is also just an arrow. "Enter", however, does have a word ("Invio" on italian sets). So I don't mind having "shift" on the right shift.

So would you want the right Shift to be "shift"-less as well?  That would be another $45 split among the 10 or so current ISO buyers.

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« Reply #220 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 11:20:30 »
No, I'm fine with the Ansi right shift! :D

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Personally, I kind of think we should just copy the thickness of the black Escape, since I suspect that's what most of us will be pairing this set with.

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« Reply #221 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 11:29:21 »
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It's just an arrow. The word "shift" won't fit anyway.
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Holding up a genuine Cherry Shift against an SP 1.25x key, it looks like the arrow + "shift" might just barely fit.  I can ask Melissa about it, at any rate.

Suppose that it does fit, would you still rather have just the arrow?

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« Reply #222 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 11:38:53 »
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Holding up a genuine Cherry Shift against an SP 1.25x key, it looks like the arrow + "shift" might just barely fit. I can ask Melissa about it, at any rate.

Suppose that it does fit, would you still rather have just the arrow?

I don't know what other ISO guy think, but I'd rather have without legend. I think the word could fit only if the arrow itself is aligned closer to the left edge, but then It would be off compared to the other keys. In this case, I'd rather keep the arrow alone.

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« Reply #223 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 11:55:02 »
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I don't know what other ISO guy think, but I'd rather have without legend. I think the word could fit only if the arrow itself is aligned closer to the left edge, but then It would be off compared to the other keys. In this case, I'd rather keep the arrow alone.

Yeah I'm sure you're right about the arrow alignment.  Okay, arrow-only it is, unless other ISO guys protest.

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« Reply #224 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 17:28:51 »
REDESC x1
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« Reply #225 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 19:53:14 »
Just confirming interest.

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« Reply #226 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 20:36:44 »
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Just confirming interest.

REDESC x2
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Just to be clear, does this mean

REDESC x2
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or

REDESC x2
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« Reply #227 on: Thu, 03 November 2011, 22:42:45 »
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REDESC x1
RGBY-BASE x1
SHIFT-ANSI x1
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*EDIT* Can I get a just the left shift and not the right? (choc mini)

And tell me if this would work or not or if it would be plausible.

Choc mini has a small right shift that is a tiny bit bigger than the iso shift. So I am thinking left side RGB is same as regular ansi board. But right side I could have the regular ctrl key with the iso shift for the right?

Any ideas?
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« Reply #228 on: Fri, 04 November 2011, 01:27:45 »
Interested!
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« Reply #229 on: Fri, 04 November 2011, 05:34:41 »
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Just to be clear, does this mean

REDESC x2
RGBY-BASE x2
SHIFT-ISO x2

or

REDESC x2
RGBY-BASE x1
SHIFT-ISO x2

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My bad.

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« Reply #230 on: Fri, 04 November 2011, 08:16:42 »
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*EDIT* Can I get a just the left shift and not the right? (choc mini)

And tell me if this would work or not or if it would be plausible.

Choc mini has a small right shift that is a tiny bit bigger than the iso shift. So I am thinking left side RGB is same as regular ansi board. But right side I could have the regular ctrl key with the iso shift for the right?

Any ideas?


I think I understand -- you're saying use a regular ANSI left Shift, and an ISO left Shift in place of your right Shift (which would be too short by .25x or something)?

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« Reply #231 on: Fri, 04 November 2011, 08:31:39 »
I think I missed a daily update or two along the way.  13 days in, we're at 86-97 REDESC and 35-39 RGBY.

The actual order thread will be up soon, I promise, depending on how close the Escape legend is to completion.

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« Reply #232 on: Fri, 04 November 2011, 09:14:03 »
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I think I understand -- you're saying use a regular ANSI left Shift, and an ISO left Shift in place of your right Shift (which would be too short by .25x or something)?

Yes. Would this be possible to replace the right ansi shift for the iso shift and have it still be a kit?
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« Reply #233 on: Fri, 04 November 2011, 11:35:26 »
I don't think so.  But you can buy an extra ISO Shift.

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« Reply #234 on: Fri, 04 November 2011, 12:12:34 »
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I don't think so.  But you can buy an extra ISO Shift.
OK so:

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« Reply #235 on: Fri, 04 November 2011, 12:16:18 »
Also, it's not too late to agitate for Choc-specific keys.  Calavera has asked multiple times about this.  If there's enough interest to make it economical, I'd be happy to add Choc versions of the relevant keys.  So far it doesn't seem like there is enough interest though. :-/

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« Reply #236 on: Fri, 04 November 2011, 12:25:07 »
2 x RGBY-BASE
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Dont have any input to give on the Windows legend but BOH and YCH look really good as the blue and yellow respectively.

I always thought the original RGB was great but the blue was too light.

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« Reply #237 on: Fri, 04 November 2011, 13:32:22 »
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« Reply #238 on: Fri, 04 November 2011, 14:58:46 »
Okay, so, if I like the blue that is chosen then I am down for 2 sets, and 4 esc's. I couldn't care less about the yellow; I have a ton of modifiers to use already.
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« Reply #239 on: Fri, 04 November 2011, 17:09:35 »
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Thanks ripster.  Any chance you could get your red Escape in the same image as a black and/or white Escape?  cycloverid is concerned about how the different versions vary in line thickness.

Personally, I kind of think we should just copy the thickness of the black Escape, since I suspect that's what most of us will be pairing this set with.

Btw, I have a fentec Red Esc like the one ripster posted next to a Cherry Corp, which seems currently the closest for sale (regular SP is All Caps). Other than the slightly mismatching font, the legend is not perfectly aligned with the rest of my 3000's lasered keys. They don't seem to be perfectly centered on the vertical, being a couple points shifted down, while the SP is. Also there's a little more border space to the left, one or two points, on the SP key. I guess only a person with an original key can confirm both vertical alignment (if it's slightly shifted down) and relative border space.
Beware to match it's colour also, as the cherry key seems a bit orangish.
To make a perfect clone, it's a shame that SPs key corners are more pronounced, and the key surface a little more textured (and a tiny bit more concave).
Also, there's some things to account for if perfection is intended, there's a chance that SP's process deforms the original svg a bit near the left and right borders (where is more concave). If you check their red esc, or the one made for Fentec, the letter E seems deformed, with the upper and lower bars converging to the center. I don't think is present on their original font. Also, if you check the first pics you posted, I don't know if it was intentional or not, but the font seems way thicker than in the original cherry keys, so if font bleeding is a subproduct of the process, the svg should take in account the original thickness before plastic bleed.

The E deformation is like

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« Reply #240 on: Sat, 05 November 2011, 02:15:50 »
Day 14: 91-102 ESC, 40-44 RGBY

So this interest thread has been pretty specific, and is basically an order thread.  Nevertheless, I'm going to put together final prices for everything and figure out logistics this weekend, and will post an official order thread early next week.

I have a text file with everyone's name and preliminary orders.  I'll post this info as the first comment in the order thread, so you all can either post changes to your order or just say "confirm" and I'll convert your preliminary order into an official order.  This will also create an opportunity to clear up ambiguous preliminary orders.

Be excited, let's get to 50 RGBYs!

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« Reply #241 on: Sat, 05 November 2011, 02:18:53 »
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day 14: 91-102 esc, 40-44 rgby

so this interest thread has been pretty specific, and is basically an order thread.  Nevertheless, i'm going to put together final prices for everything and figure out logistics this weekend, and will post an official order thread early next week.

I have a text file with everyone's name and preliminary orders.  I'll post this info as the first comment in the order thread, so you all can either post changes to your order or just say "confirm" and i'll convert your preliminary order into an official order.  This will also create an opportunity to clear up ambiguous preliminary orders.

Be excited, let's get to 50 rgbys!

which blue which blue?!
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« Reply #242 on: Sat, 05 November 2011, 02:31:37 »
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which blue which blue?!

Pretty sure it'll be BFK.

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« Reply #243 on: Sat, 05 November 2011, 02:35:35 »
Awe man; BOH is so much nicer imo... but I am not a fan of hard blues.
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« Reply #244 on: Sat, 05 November 2011, 03:25:13 »
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Awe man; BOH is so much nicer imo... but I am not a fan of hard blues.

I really like BOH too.  I just worry it'll end up too light.

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« Reply #245 on: Sat, 05 November 2011, 07:28:03 »
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I really like BOH too.  I just worry it'll end up too light.

Yea, but lightness is based on perspective. I look at the Aggiejy blue as way lighter and that still seems normal to me.
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« Reply #246 on: Sat, 05 November 2011, 07:46:06 »
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Awe man; BOH is so much nicer imo... but I am not a fan of hard blues.


Do you mean BDH?

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« Reply #247 on: Sat, 05 November 2011, 07:57:34 »
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Do you mean BDH?

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If I say yes then can we get icecream on the way home?
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« Reply #248 on: Sat, 05 November 2011, 09:56:50 »
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Do you mean BDH?

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I mean fourth from bottom in the blue column in this image.  I guess that's a D?  I read it as O.

At any rate, this spherical keycap image is very helpful, thanks for posting! :)
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« Reply #249 on: Sat, 05 November 2011, 10:04:20 »
BDH looks like a pretty light blue
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