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Title: DONE!
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 10 January 2016, 01:02:29
Whew!

2 cubic meters have been sent out in over 80 packages.

2 cubic meters have been disposed of, or are being disposed of.

1 cubic meter will be retained.

Over $2k spent in shipping.

I still can't believe my folly in accumulating so many unnecessary things.

Some mistakes were made along the way, but I hope nothing too serious.

I'll take a long, long break and be back sometime... whenever I need to post HELP for some DIY project in my shambles of a house...  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT sets
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 10 January 2016, 09:35:48
Hi just to clarify

1) These are from G80-8113 keyboards. They are 1.25x Winkey and 1.25x Apps key.

2) 2.75x right shift.
Title: Re: WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT sets
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 11 January 2016, 12:41:42
bump

don't be afraid to make an offer!
Title: Re: WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT sets
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 12 January 2016, 05:33:58
bump
Title: Re: WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT sets
Post by: geo462rge on Tue, 12 January 2016, 09:51:16
the granite set, includes modifiers at all? 
Title: Re: WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT sets
Post by: cryptokey on Tue, 12 January 2016, 10:19:02
You wouldn't happen to have the GNU granite keycap, would you?
Title: Re: WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT sets
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 12 January 2016, 10:21:26
the granite set, includes modifiers at all?

I'm afraid I can't answer that until I start opening the bags. This was another of those things I bought enthusiastically, then forgot about. I can't even remember what I ordered, and whether massdrop correctly delivered them. But if I remember correctly the alphas are just the alphas.
Title: Re: WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT sets
Post by: berserkfan on Wed, 13 January 2016, 08:30:08
bump!

if you guys want more detailed photos let me know!
Title: Re: WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT sets
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 14 January 2016, 06:00:59
bump
Title: Re: WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT sets
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 15 January 2016, 06:45:37
bump

will get photos during the weekend

Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 06 February 2016, 10:25:13
bump! please note price drops, new stuff, etc.
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 06 February 2016, 21:49:27
one set of the Vortex has been sold to Duk on deskauthority, but I have several sets
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 07 February 2016, 21:50:25
bump
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: WNovizar on Sun, 07 February 2016, 22:15:57
Detailed photo of granite please
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: romevi on Sun, 07 February 2016, 22:22:46
Detailed photo of granite please

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160208/7c80706782882dbfb70ef123ce45c16b.jpg)
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: WNovizar on Sun, 07 February 2016, 22:23:31
D: such tease
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 07 February 2016, 23:48:10
updated.
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 07 February 2016, 23:58:06
Do you spare Black 6.25x spacebar?
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 09 February 2016, 05:16:50
bump
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: berserkfan on Wed, 10 February 2016, 09:05:27
bump

how come no one wants to buy my keycaps?
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: FLFisherman on Wed, 10 February 2016, 09:07:00
bump

how come no one wants to buy my keycaps?

Have you tried selling on reddit? Much larger audience there.  :thumb:
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: berserkfan on Wed, 10 February 2016, 09:10:54
bump

how come no one wants to buy my keycaps?

Have you tried selling on reddit? Much larger audience there.  :thumb:

Am not a member of reddit and I tend to stick to just a few forums where I have my friends.

But seriously, am also a bit worried about the kind of people who are there. They have a rep for anything goes.
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: metafour on Wed, 10 February 2016, 13:22:24
What's the caps lock situation on the G80 set, full-touch with center stem or stepped with offset stem?
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 11 February 2016, 07:48:24
bump
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 15 February 2016, 04:42:05
Tracking posted for everyone except harlw.

Sorry harlw, it turns out the $3 that you and nubbinator paid for SD card and bluetooth dongle respectively wasn't enough to cover tracked shipping. So I tossed a coin, and sent the bluetooth dongle tracked. Your SD card isn't tracked. But if you don't get it within 40 days, let me know and I will refund!
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: climbalima on Mon, 15 February 2016, 08:48:12
Is granite taken?
Title: Re: PRICE DROP WTS Cherry WoB Doubleshots ANSI, Vortex PBT, Massdrop Granite PBT
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 16 February 2016, 01:52:02
Is granite taken?

Oh, sorry, didn't see you!

That's why I always say, PM me rather than post on the thread! I've got several sets, so I still have them. What do you need?

Bump
Title: Re: Granite Modifiers and Specialty sets, cherry WoB DS, Vortex PBT DS
Post by: berserkfan on Wed, 17 February 2016, 21:19:45
bump
Title: Re: Granite Modifiers and Specialty sets, cherry WoB DS, Vortex PBT DS
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 22 February 2016, 00:00:19
bump
Title: Re: Granite Modifiers and Specialty sets, cherry WoB DS, Vortex PBT DS
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 23 February 2016, 00:58:24
tracking posted
Title: Re: Granite Modifiers and Specialty sets, cherry WoB DS, Vortex PBT DS
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 25 February 2016, 00:47:55
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Title: SHIPPING
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 25 February 2016, 00:48:09
Good News Everyone, shipping costs have been slashed by over half!

I am going to ship everything by sea mail. I am targeting to ship on April 18 and on May 2. I need the weekend to pack the boxes.

This is one of the world’s greatest ports. 9% of all international trade moves through Singapore. Sea mail is fast and safe from here.

Officially they say 4-17 weeks. Unofficially, it is only 3 weeks from Singapore to a major port city like Tokyo or Rotterdam. From there the speed varies. If you live in Slovakia a sea mail package will have to pass through Germany and the Czech Republic by barge and rail, so it’ll be much slower than if you live in New York.

Sea mail is reliable, but the timing varies based on the logic of international logistics. EG if you live in Latvia your package is going to sit in some London dock until there is a ship heading for Riga. They will not load your package on a daily flight to Riga. In contrast if you live in London your box will be processed very fast.

The China-Singapore sea mail route is just 3 weeks. A lot of the timing has to do with how often a ship leaves port. So sea mail from Singapore will be much faster than surface mail from some remote inland town.

If you’re checking on the Singpost.com website, 1SG= 0.72 USD aka 1USD = 1.38 SGD.

All costs include international tracking but not insurance.

1)   All shipping now standardized: minimum 500g box. I will send all keycaps in boxes to prevent crushing.

2)   A good quality 10kg box weighs 2.4kg, so you can only ship 2 large Model Fs in that box but will have plenty of room for freebies.

3)   You can get a big box to hold 3 Model Fs that weighs only 1.1kg, but it is really flimsy. This option is only if you are buying stock keyboards from me. I am not sending my modded stuff in lousy boxes.

4)   You can realistically ship 3.9kg in a 5kg box, 1.55kg in a 2kg box, 0.75kg in a 1kg box.

5)   Note: It sometimes costs more to ship to Malaysia than to other countries. The post office says it’s because Malaysia doesn’t have the benefit of sea freight rates.


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How to use the tracking number:

Many countries have random customs inspections which can cause 1-4 weeks in delays. If tracking shows it arrived in your country but no further info, usually that means stuck in customs. Asking me to pester customs for you is useless. They will release item when they feel like it. In hundreds of packages I sent, none has ever been lost at the customs stage. It is probably the safest stage because they won’t steal your stuff.

I have sent a $260 Topre to Bunnylake UK marked as a $20 gift via Speedpost Standard, and customs gave us no trouble. I have sent $500 worth of stuff in a huge box to Dorkvader USA marked as $20 gift via Speedpost Economy, also no issue. YMMV.

When I give you a tracking number for under 2kg, it should be used on the Singpost.com.sg website. Items over 2kg use Speedpost.com.sg website. Do not use Speedpost.com without the country code! Once the item is marked as having arrived in your country, you must use the same number on your domestic post website. Singpost/Speedpost cannot track anymore.
Title: Re: Granite Modifiers and Specialty sets, cherry WoB DS, Vortex PBT DS
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 25 February 2016, 00:48:24
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Title: Re: Granite Modifiers and Specialty sets, cherry WoB DS, Vortex PBT DS
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 25 February 2016, 00:48:39
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Title: Re: G's Model M, F, Filco, Ducky, Deck, jailhouse, n Price Check (no sale for now)
Post by: henz on Thu, 25 February 2016, 01:22:41
dude its a fortune just in teensies :D
Title: Re: G's Model M, F, Filco, Ducky, Deck, jailhouse, n Price Check (no sale for now)
Post by: mike52787 on Thu, 25 February 2016, 07:09:45
Have you sold the ansi model f 122? that is pretty much my dream keyboard. where are you? shipping to the us may be expensive.
Title: Re: WTS teensy modded Model Fs. More wonderful modded and stock vintages to come!
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 26 February 2016, 11:18:52
bump
Title: Re: G's Model M, F, Filco, Ducky, Deck, jailhouse, n Price Check (no sale for now)
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 26 February 2016, 21:56:19
dude its a fortune just in teensies :D


I made over 10 purchases over several years, so it did not seem like a fortune. But when you count everything together...  :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: WTS teensy modded Model Fs. More wonderful modded and stock vintages to come!
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 28 February 2016, 00:04:57
superceded
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 28 March 2016, 13:50:08
bump
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 28 March 2016, 21:50:14
there was some confusion over shipping cost because I cut and pasted a table and it didn't format properly. Just reuploaded a screenshot.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78531.msg2071707#msg2071707
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 29 March 2016, 03:18:39
Hi everyone

Just a note on the shipping.

I don’t have to ship end April. In fact I dearly love to ship earlier. A late date is just to keep people from bugging me. Also I have found that if I ship for some people and don’t ship for others, people get upset. Might as well do everything together.

My personal target is a very practical one: 1.5 cubic meters. Once I sell 1.5 cubic meters or whatever that takes up half the space now (you can see that in my links at the start of the OP), it justifies me getting a car, shipping out stuff, and pulling the remaining 2 cubic meters from my storage space so that I can photograph and sell/ give away the rest.

Am particularly interested in moving all my buckling springs because they take up so much space. As you can see from my ‘trade for keycaps’ offer, keycaps are not really a problem because they are light and easy to store.
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: mike52787 on Tue, 29 March 2016, 21:05:29
Is anyone in florida interested in doing a group buy with me? I am in southwest florida. I just cant justify paying that much for international shipping on one board. PM me if youre in the area.
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 29 March 2016, 21:38:04
bump

details are actually in the .docx files that you can download.

If I'd posted screens of these files it would be another 10 pages of text...

Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 29 March 2016, 21:38:25
Is anyone in florida interested in doing a group buy with me? I am in southwest florida. I just cant justify paying that much for international shipping on one board. PM me if youre in the area.

btw Mike52787, that's the spirit! Work together to get cheaper shipping!

1kg box is 29% the cost of 10kg box, but actually holds 10% as much.

Not to mention I fill in one customs form, instead of 10.
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 31 March 2016, 01:46:50
updated with latest Pending Items
Title: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 31 March 2016, 09:17:48
Please PM me if you're in the US and would like to share shipping for one of beserkfan's keyboards.

I'd like to purchase a board from beserkfan but would love to get a better price on shipping. I have a number of large flat rate boxes and would be happy to coordinate a mini group buy. We will all share shipping, and then I'll ship to you for $20 via USPS flat rate. Please PM me if you're interested!
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: phosphoric on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:02:20
any vegas gh'ers in here? shoot me a pm
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 01 April 2016, 06:30:32
response to Rowdy (needs Australian shipping)

I have 2 Model M-122 controllers going for free (looks like you haven't browsed my lists that far - they are tucked away in my docx files I believe.) I have even more than that, but I only bothered to test these two so only these two will be shipped abroad and the rest remain in my storage jumble for local giveaway.

However thanks to all the thousands of zero-post people who perpetually pester me when stuff is free, now everything is prioritized to buyers. But if you want, just put out a request on my thread like riotonthebay did. If people from Australia buy from me, I'll just pop the M-122 controller in as well. It's like 100g max.
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 02 April 2016, 10:22:10
ok, a 10kg box is going to NYC with about 2kg space remaining!

pending on 1 Model F-122 teensied
pending on CM QFR Jailhouse Blues
pending on 90 green switch stems
pending on Model F AT stock
pending on CM QFR TKL kit
pending on Filco SA keycaps

I'll edit the threads once payment comes in. Lots of people call dibs but payment never appears  :eek:
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 02 April 2016, 10:29:12
reply to Dannyhuynh (VNM shipping)

It is $20.9 to Vietnam by air for 1kg.

It is only $38 for 10kg to Vietnam by sea. This is not so surprising when you consider how Southeast Asia looks - we have lots of coastal exposure, and Vietnam is itself one giant thin strip of land, and Singapore is the main port right in the middle of Southeast Asia where all sea lanes pass through.

It is not easy for me to sell my stuff due to shipping costs. but in general buying more stuff is better because of the bulk shipping. Try asking Quochung1989 or Phoenix or some other vietnamese guy to see if you're in the same city as them. You could get a bunch of stuff in one go.
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 03 April 2016, 06:29:04
shared shipping to LA requested
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 03 April 2016, 11:33:56
Please PM me if you're in the US and would like to share shipping for one of beserkfan's keyboards.

I'd like to purchase a board from beserkfan but would love to get a better price on shipping. I have a number of large flat rate boxes and would be happy to coordinate a mini group buy. We will all share shipping, and then I'll ship to you for $20 via USPS flat rate. Please PM me if you're interested!

I'm still attempting to make this happen. Right now we don't have quite enough interest to go forward (at least for it to be worth it to me to manage it), but a few keyboard purchases could easily change that. Please PM me if you're in the US and looking to buy from berserkfan.
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 03 April 2016, 12:55:52
bump
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sun, 03 April 2016, 13:42:37
From the Classifieds rules:
Quote
Bumping
Do not bump your own Classifieds threads until at least 24 hours have passed from the time of the latest post.  Any bumps made before the 24 hour window are subject to removal. You should not bump other members’ Classifieds posts via explicit bumps or friendly chatter, and such posts are subject to removal.
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 03 April 2016, 22:44:44
From the Classifieds rules:
Quote
Bumping
Do not bump your own Classifieds threads until at least 24 hours have passed from the time of the latest post.  Any bumps made before the 24 hour window are subject to removal. You should not bump other members’ Classifieds posts via explicit bumps or friendly chatter, and such posts are subject to removal.

Ghostjuggernaut, surely one is allowed to update his thread eg with new items (such as I am doing with my keycaps thread) or with notifications of things that were bought/pending, or people looking for other buyers to combine shipping with?

Otherwise it will be very hard for my buyers. Shipping is very expensive unless combined, so they need other people in their own cities.

These are meaningful actions, not bumping for the sake of bumping.

BTW I understand if you remove this particular post. I just wanted to make my opinion public.
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 04 April 2016, 19:57:14
more photos added!
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: mr67volks on Tue, 05 April 2016, 23:29:12
bumping for good communication

Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 07 April 2016, 12:51:54
updated and bump up
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: childofthehorn on Fri, 08 April 2016, 10:34:54
ANYONE ELSE IN DALLAS WANNA BUY FROM G ?

Just asking for shipping reasons.
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: mike52787 on Fri, 08 April 2016, 11:38:44
ANYONE ELSE IN DALLAS WANNA BUY FROM G ?

Just asking for shipping reasons.

You should join riotonthebay's group buy. he is shipping to NY and distributing the boards for only 20$ shipping.
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 08 April 2016, 15:19:43
Shipping Slashed! https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78531.msg2071707#msg2071707

Spent some more time sorting out pictures

Bump!
Title: Re: G's Big Sale: Model M Model F Ergo clears JailhouseMod Rare n POS board Freebies
Post by: bubblebobbler on Fri, 08 April 2016, 17:25:07
I don't really post here much, I'm a guy who mostly posts on DT

if anyone in EU wants an F AT, I'd love to trade mine for the F122 from this auction (plus some stuff on my end to make it a worthwhile trade). I'd be super grateful, can provide pics etc in PM

Although this isn't 'my thread' I don't see any harm in posting this since it'd still end up in a sale for berserk - let me know if it's a problem
Title: Re: Huge Keyboard sale, cheap shipping! Lots of freebies!
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 09 April 2016, 14:06:18
bump
Title: Re: Huge Keyboard sale, cheap shipping! Lots of freebies!
Post by: zzyjayfree on Sat, 09 April 2016, 16:33:38
So many stuff... GLWS!
Title: Re: Huge Keyboard sale, cheap shipping! Lots of freebies!
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 10 April 2016, 11:36:52
bump up, if you have questions please ask! I still have lots of work to do on the pictures, but the albums have lots of pictures and files describe everything.
Title: Re: Huge Keyboard sale, cheap shipping! Lots of freebies!
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 10 April 2016, 22:52:47
update: pending on 1 set of Filco keycaps

pending on 1 Model F-122 with ANSI mod and black painted plate and 1 Model F 50 keys
Title: Re: Huge Keyboard sale, cheap shipping! Lots of freebies!
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 11 April 2016, 13:21:15
PAID
1 set of WEY keycaps
Cherry G80-1950 NIB, no mod done.
G80-11903 HRMUS


PENDING (will be removed from Pending list if no payment appears)-
63 jailhouse switches
My last set of Filco SA profile keycaps
1 set of WEY keycaps with 1 set of G80-8113 lasered keycaps
Zinc keycaps
1 Model F AT stock
1 Model F-122 ANSI mod black plate painted
1 Model F-122 stock

BUMP
Title: Re: Huge Keyboard sale, cheap shipping! Lots of freebies!
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 12 April 2016, 10:11:20
bump!
Title: Re: Huge Keyboard sale, cheap shipping! Lots of freebies!
Post by: berserkfan on Wed, 13 April 2016, 12:14:36
bump!
Title: Re: Huge Keyboard sale, cheap shipping! Lots of freebies!
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 15 April 2016, 13:51:18
OK, this must be the most ridiculous (and customer confidence-busting) reason ever to bump up a selling post, but it is here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81369.0

G-Damn Paypal account limited.

Unless I can get some good suggestions on what to do, I'll have to refund a lot of people and only do business with those who can pay via bank transfer.

On the bright side for those who are willing to pay via bank transfer, I'm desperate to clear at least my bulky buckling spring boards, so these will be heavily discounted going forward.
Title: Re: Huge Keyboard sale, cheap shipping! Lots of freebies!
Post by: yuppie on Sat, 16 April 2016, 04:05:10

J05. KBT Race 75%, SIP modded, 2.2v colorful LEDs, $65 http://imgur.com/IQwMZGP
(Attachment Link)

Detailed docs
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

What switches are on the KBT Race 75% SIP modded board? I may be interested.
Title: Re: Huge Keyboard sale, cheap shipping! Lots of freebies!
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 16 April 2016, 22:55:17
Newest Update:

Due to ongoing problems with paypal, nearly all deals are off and payments have been refunded.

I will be looking into Moneygram, Western Union, Bank Transfer or bitcoin shortly.

Prices will be severely slashed on the keyboards thread and for some keycaps because I am running out of time. Everything must go.

The threads will be updated when I have time. Nearly everything in the /docx files will be available again!
Title: Re: Keyboard Giveaway or Cheap Sale! Many project kits available! KB parts free!
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 17 April 2016, 15:18:40
OK thread updated, nearly everything is available once more! So I have massively slashed prices and added at least 10 boards to the FREE list.
Title: Re: Keyboards for FREE or cheap! Project kits FREE! KB parts free!
Post by: eohmiller on Sun, 17 April 2016, 23:18:20
Have you gotten rid of your stock Model F XT Portable? If not, I'd love to take it off your hands!
Title: Re: Keyboards for FREE or cheap! Project kits FREE! KB parts free!
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 17 April 2016, 23:50:08
Have you gotten rid of your stock Model F XT Portable? If not, I'd love to take it off your hands!

it is available
Title: Re: Keyboards for FREE or cheap! Project kits FREE! KB parts free!
Post by: studentben on Mon, 18 April 2016, 11:58:27
Sent you a PM regarding a local deal.

Currently interested in the Poker X if it's still available.

Posting here since I read in another post to post dibs in the thread or something.

There may be more items I'm interested in, but I'll have to figure that out. I'll be posting in the keycap thread with what I want now as well.

Thanks
Title: Re: Keyboards for FREE or cheap! Project kits FREE! KB parts free!
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 18 April 2016, 13:10:19
just noticed this

I have a tight schedule these two weeks which is why I am not shipping for anyone until May 2.

That also goes for local pickup.

Won't be at home, simple as that.

And no, I don't encourage people to call dibs. I can't monitor all threads. Most dib callers never come through anyway. I just made a comment that said call dibs if you like but only those who pay get stuff.

If you were one of those people who sent me a laundry list saying hey, I might like this and maybe I might like that and possibly I can take this but only if I can confirm that, I probably deleted your PM. I have no shortage of PMs from people who want everything free or very cheap,  and most such people don't really seem to know what they are asking for. Some can't even tell a Razer from a Model M; they were just doing a knee jerk reaction to the word free.
Title: Re: Keyboards for FREE or cheap! Project kits FREE! KB parts free!
Post by: studentben on Mon, 18 April 2016, 14:27:31
just noticed this

I have a tight schedule these two weeks which is why I am not shipping for anyone until May 2.

That also goes for local pickup.

Won't be at home, simple as that.

And no, I don't encourage people to call dibs. I can't monitor all threads. Most dib callers never come through anyway. I just made a comment that said call dibs if you like but only those who pay get stuff.

If you were one of those people who sent me a laundry list saying hey, I might like this and maybe I might like that and possibly I can take this but only if I can confirm that, I probably deleted your PM. I have no shortage of PMs from people who want everything free or very cheap,  and most such people don't really seem to know what they are asking for. Some can't even tell a Razer from a Model M; they were just doing a knee jerk reaction to the word free.

Totally understandable, I'll get you a proper consolidated list of everything that I'm willing to purchase and get back to you.

The wait till May 2 is fine even for local pick up.
Title: Re: Keyboards for FREE or cheap! Project kits FREE! KB parts free!
Post by: ItsBarney01 on Tue, 19 April 2016, 01:34:15
anyone in Melbourne Australia want to do a group buy? I'm probably going to get some anyway but may as well make it cheap for everyone!
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 10 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 19 April 2016, 16:07:59
taking paypal again, bump up

further discounts if you don't use paypal. Prices fixed for paypal users.

That damned paypal has caused me enough trouble as it is.
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 10 Days left!
Post by: hydrospell on Wed, 20 April 2016, 01:33:32
Am in Singapore, so can do bank transfer. Would like to take:

F02. Model F XT Portable version. Teensied w fixed USB cable. $20

If it's okay I'd also like to take this off your hands

F18. IBM 6112883 SKCC Green Alps T-mount (Japanese), NIB stock. FREE http://imgur.com/nclC5Ye

Able to do self collection on weekends. Let me know how to proceed!
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 10 Days left!
Post by: Eiji on Wed, 20 April 2016, 03:06:52
Sent a PM to you berserk regarding one of your boards, and also to riotonthebay about the US group shipping dealio.

Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 10 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Wed, 20 April 2016, 12:56:48
bump!

Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 9 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Wed, 20 April 2016, 23:39:51
Public reply to the type of buyer I find very suspicious

This guy has sent me multiple PMs in the past, all very long, all filled with questions, nearly all about the free stuff, showing minimal understanding of keyboards and what he is asking about. EG he asked for Tipro and bolt modding stuff in the same paragraph, he can’t recognize a Tipro from a Deko Pinnacle, etc.

I’m tired of freebie getters who are not really members of the community, just hanger-ons who waste time for fun and will start PM-blocking anyone who seems dubious.

Sorry, you ask too many questions. I have not time to answer all.
1)   Ergodex, yes, you can move switches. Fun but not really useful.
2)   Tipro, I see your confusion. It is both right and left – the board comes with 2 matrix pads 4x8 which are on the left. You can put them all together or operate separately.
3)   Numpads are FREE. They are very old.
4)   Bolt modding stuff is now $5.
5)   The POS Tipro board is 2.7kg with the two matrix pads. I will not separate them.

You ask for many, many free things and pay practically nothing. This is not the first time you have sent me a laundry list of questions and no deal has emerged. You are ultra stingy with shipping for free things. It is more convenient for me to put everything in 1 5kg box because everytime I fill a box I need to fill a customs form. In any case it is not possible to use 2kg boxes because of the POS Tipro.

I will only take this deal if you pay by bank transfer/ moneygram/ Western Union within 2 working days. Otherwise I will PM block you permanently. I suspect you are not a serious buyer and just want to see if you can get a ton of freebies for practically no shipping.

Also once deal is confirmed and payment is made, I will not accept any further mind-changing or order-changing. I got about 150 PMs yesterday and have no time to answer everyone.
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 9 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 21 April 2016, 10:40:40
Phenix put on my ignore list.
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 9 Days left!
Post by: mind_funeral on Thu, 21 April 2016, 11:00:43
Phenix put on my ignore list.

Haha R.I.P.

I just wanna let people know that berserk doesn't play games but he is a great seller.  More info about the for-sale items (including shipping weight) is located in his docx file in the OP.  Limit your questions to things that can't be answered by google and you will make a quick and painless sale like myself and plenty others.  If you ask a question about a stock keyboard or something that's answered in the docx, you're going to have a bad time.

GLWS and looking forward to the shipment!
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 9 Days left!
Post by: Floody on Thu, 21 April 2016, 11:09:55
Phenix put on my ignore list.

Haha R.I.P.

I just wanna let people know that berserk doesn't play games but he is a great seller.  More info about the for-sale items (including shipping weight) is located in his docx file in the OP.  Limit your questions to things that can't be answered by google and you will make a quick and painless sale like myself and plenty others.  If you ask a question about a stock keyboard or something that's answered in the docx, you're going to have a bad time.

GLWS and looking forward to the shipment!
I second this. Don't go in thinking he is going to explain everything about the board to you. If you're going in for free stuff you should already know about what you're attempting to get. He's already swamped with PM's he doesn't need to be your Google.
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 9 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 21 April 2016, 12:18:01
bump!
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 8 Days left!
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 21 April 2016, 12:28:48
PM'd
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 8 Days left!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Fri, 22 April 2016, 00:39:16
Pm'ing
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 8 Days left!
Post by: GiveCandyy on Fri, 22 April 2016, 06:09:01
pm'd about a board
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 8 Days left!
Post by: Fredrik on Fri, 22 April 2016, 07:43:38
Do you have any ISO Nordic stuff? I'd gladly take it all if so
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 7 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 22 April 2016, 11:00:47
sold some stuff, but am too brain dead now to update thread

bump!
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 8 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 23 April 2016, 22:07:45
Do you have any ISO Nordic stuff? I'd gladly take it all if so

Sorry, I didn't notice you yesterday. Too tired. Don't ask questions on thread because I might not see.

I have only ISO random stuff from SP DCS. not sure if Nordic, no time to take photos. Things like their ISO return key, 1u slash key, etc.

Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 6 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 24 April 2016, 04:28:18
public reply to a friendly buyer

I just want to clear everything asap that's why I dropped prices like mad.

Surprisingly (or not), despite the price drop you see many things still going untouched.

Fact is, 122 key Model M, whether NEW or Bolt Modded with Teensy, nobody wants. NOT EVEN FREE!

I'm sad but I can still sell these at a nominal sum to curio shop. Yeah, curio shop, the kind that sell burmese teak elephant carvings and chinese paper screens. And steam powered clothes irons.

Fking hell curio shop willing to pay me a bit of money that geeks don't want when given to them free. This is supposed to be a keyboard enthusiast website, but most of these kids only have specific layouts and models that they want.

$1000, they will pay Ellipse and wait 1 year for delivery.
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 6 Days left!
Post by: Chau on Sun, 24 April 2016, 08:21:38
Did you get my PM mate?
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 6 Days left!
Post by: Malenky on Sun, 24 April 2016, 08:35:47
I've already paid for some Granite child kits, but if you're really struggling to get rid of stuff for free, feel free to throw in any and all free stuff!
Title: announcement
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 24 April 2016, 11:46:10
Just an announcement

I just realized that May 2, 2016 is a public holiday in my country.

I will be working on May 3 and pretty much every day after that, with few breaks.

Therefore I have roped in relatives and family members to assist with the shipping. If you paid before 22 April, most packages should go out 27 or 29 April. If you paid after 22 April, I will still try to get your stuff out in the same batch, but shipping may take place May 3.

If you want to change any order, you have until 25 April (tomorrow) to notify me. After that your shipping will be delayed to May 3. Please avoid changing orders because it leads to confusion.
To keep people from having to wait too long, earlier orders will be prioritized. Also prioritized will be orders that have to go to more distant countries.

You will be given the tracking number. Please follow the instructions on my shipping post https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78531.msg2071707#msg2071707, and use the tracking number on either the Singpost.com or Speedpost.com.sg website. Once tracking says ‘accepted at the post office’, it’s out of my hands.
Title: sorry genuine buyers
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 24 April 2016, 23:31:59
Not taking paypal anymore. Sorry, but the troublesome 99% have made it so difficult for the 1% small genuine buyers who just want to buy 1 set of keycaps from me, don’t demand lots of freebies, and are comfortable with sea mail. For years I have accepted paypal as a convenient means of transferring small sums of money, but now it is just plain too risky.

I have gotten at least 100 PMs for free things over the weekend, and it is extremely high risk for a seller. I have no margin of error. Everything people pay me is going to shipping, and paypal has warned me not to withdraw my money until everything reaches you guys. You guys are not even paying for the boxes and the bubble wrap.

Most kids don't understand what a buckling spring keyboard is. Or they ask, is SKCC Alps a brand name? Or is Model F compatible with Windows OS? I have no time to talk to them and figure out if they are genuine. I have no time to educate buyers. I also noticed from their questions about shipping that no one has bothered to read my shipping post, so most people are going to be unhappy with how long sea mail takes. One mistake, and I wind up sending people stuff they don't want leading to paypal complaint.

In the past I used to remember PM inquiries as ‘the California guy’. ‘That Greek’. But now due to sheer volume of PMs my mnemonic system has broken down. I have never had more than 1 Indonesian counterparty at any time in my life, but now am talking to several Indonesians at the same time and having difficulty remembering who is who. If this goes on, I’ll be double selling, misquoting shipping, mispack your stuff, etc. I must cut down on the volume of potential buyers because I cannot remember everyone.

I am already losing a lot of money just giving away things that I no longer want to keep. I CANNOT AFFORD TO TAKE PAYPAL ON FREEBIES BECAUSE IF YOU ARE LESS THAN 100% SATISFIED, I CANNOT DO PARTIAL REFUND. EVERYTHING YOU PAY IS ALREADY GOING TO SHIPPING.

No more paypal. End of story. I want peace of mind. If you're not an adult who knows what you want and is willing to wait 2 months to get a vintage keyboard that may need modding, I'm not comfortable with taking your paypal money, paying in cash for shipping, only to get slapped with a complaint and my funds frozen again when your free keyboard doesn't show up by 2nd day shipping.

ps even if you are willing to pay by moneygram or bank transfer as I prefer, doesn't mean you can just come in and ask to buy $15 of keycaps and get 9 keyboards for free. Yes, there are people who send me requests like that. I'm going to start blocking PMs.
Title: Re: sorry genuine buyers
Post by: WNovizar on Sun, 24 April 2016, 23:34:55
Not taking paypal anymore. Sorry, but the troublesome 99% have made it so difficult for the 1% small genuine buyers who just want to buy 1 set of keycaps from me, don’t demand lots of freebies, and are comfortable with sea mail. For years I have accepted paypal as a convenient means of transferring small sums of money, but now it is just plain too risky.

I have gotten at least 100 PMs for free things over the weekend, and it is extremely high risk for a seller. I have no margin of error. Everything people pay me is going to shipping, and paypal has warned me not to withdraw my money until everything reaches you guys. You guys are not even paying for the boxes and the bubble wrap.

Most kids don't understand what a buckling spring keyboard is. Or they ask, is SKCC Alps a brand name? Or is Model F compatible with Windows OS? I have no time to talk to them and figure out if they are genuine. I have no time to educate buyers. I also noticed from their questions about shipping that no one has bothered to read my shipping post, so most people are going to be unhappy with how long sea mail takes. One mistake, and I wind up sending people stuff they don't want leading to paypal complaint.

In the past I used to remember PM inquiries as ‘the California guy’. ‘That Greek’. But now due to sheer volume of PMs my mnemonic system has broken down. I have never had more than 1 Indonesian counterparty at any time in my life, but now am talking to several Indonesians at the same time and having difficulty remembering who is who. If this goes on, I’ll be double selling, misquoting shipping, mispack your stuff, etc. I must cut down on the volume of potential buyers because I cannot remember everyone.

I am already losing a lot of money just giving away things that I no longer want to keep. I CANNOT AFFORD TO TAKE PAYPAL ON FREEBIES BECAUSE IF YOU ARE LESS THAN 100% SATISFIED, I CANNOT DO PARTIAL REFUND. EVERYTHING YOU PAY IS ALREADY GOING TO SHIPPING.

No more paypal. End of story. I want peace of mind. If you're not an adult who knows what you want and is willing to wait 2 months to get a vintage keyboard that may need modding, I'm not comfortable with taking your paypal money, paying in cash for shipping, only to get slapped with a complaint and my funds frozen again when your free keyboard doesn't show up by 2nd day shipping.

ps even if you are willing to pay by moneygram or bank transfer as I prefer, doesn't mean you can just come in and ask to buy $15 of keycaps and get 9 keyboards for free. Yes, there are people who send me requests like that. I'm going to start blocking PMs.

I hope you still remember this humble Indonesian  :confused: ;D
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 6 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 24 April 2016, 23:55:22
you, easy to remember.

you bought my only working SSK.  :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 6 Days left!
Post by: WNovizar on Mon, 25 April 2016, 01:16:31
you, easy to remember.

you bought my only working SSK.  :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

  :)) :)) :)) :))

I was thinking to buy one of your Model F 4704 50 Key, But I only want to pay with paypal this time, as 50USD with bank transfer fee 30USD is a big no-no, so what do you think?
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 6 Days left!
Post by: ikeadragon on Mon, 25 April 2016, 06:42:19
Hiya!

Singaporean here, sent you a PM for some boards as well~
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 5 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 25 April 2016, 14:19:10
Very tired, so bumping up thread along with note. Will edit thread later because I can’t think clearly anymore.

All PENDING or PAID
All Tai Hao keycaps
Green Mint PBT keycaps
All Filco keycaps
Filco MJ2 kit
Filco MJ1 kit
Deck keyboard kit
Cherry WOB Doubleshot 1 premium bag, 1 grab bag
Cyan on White Thick PBT
Raindrop free keycaps
Stock Model F-122
10 Relegendables for Model F
Model M-2 trackball
Both free headphones
Corsair k95
Filco Purple Theme
KBT Race 75%
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 5 Days left!
Post by: WNovizar on Mon, 25 April 2016, 15:35:14
Very tired, so bumping up thread along with note. Will edit thread later because I can’t think clearly anymore.

All PENDING or PAID
All Tai Hao keycaps
Green Mint PBT keycaps
All Filco keycaps
Filco MJ2 kit
Filco MJ1 kit
Deck keyboard kit
Cherry WOB Doubleshot 1 premium bag, 1 grab bag
Cyan on White Thick PBT
Raindrop free keycaps
Stock Model F-122
10 Relegendables for Model F
Model M-2 trackball
Both free headphones
Corsair k95
Filco Purple Theme
KBT Race 75%

Hey, man. I sent you messages for some possible additional buy from me. Hopefully you read them hehehe
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 5 Days left!
Post by: Tyr on Mon, 25 April 2016, 17:39:42
Sounds like an absolute nightmare. I can't even imagine handling a sale this big, shipping all over the world. Hang in there  :thumb:
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 5 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 25 April 2016, 21:56:15


I vowed never to do a GB, but now I wind up doing something that resembles a GB. Sigh.
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 5 Days left!
Post by: Scarpia on Tue, 26 April 2016, 03:10:23
I'll add that the following have also been paid. The original post have some of these marked as sold, some of them as pending, and some of them not marked at all, but these are sold:

Model F XT teensied, no other mods
Model F 50 keys teensied
Model F bigfoot stock
KBC PokerX, SIP modded
KBT Pure, unlubed 78g clears, blue theme case+cable
Thick PBT colored grab bag, 80 pieces
2 x Teensy 2.0 no pins
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 5 Days left!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Tue, 26 April 2016, 11:01:23
Following Scarpia's example, the following:

SP DCS random blanks, grab bags of over 250 each OK
Wristrest? $5
Set of 40 1u keycaps  $10 Available

KBT Race 75%, SIP modded, 2.2v colorful LEDs, $50
C03. Filco MJ2 TKL Purple Theme, lubed 72g clears, SIP mod, switch moddable plate, detachable USB cable mod, $100

Tai Haos, 1 of each colour that I have in the photo- $8x5
Filco MJ2 kit, $60
Every colour of LED, $20
Filco MJ1 TKL $30
Deck keyboard kit $20
Deck is 105 switches. so that's 0.3x105 =$31.5

These items have also been claimed and paid for by me :)

Prospective buyers, Just spend a bit of time to layout and format exactly what yuo want, be prompt at responding and you'll be taken well care of! Be reasonable for free stuff - it's nice to have some free stuff but be prepared to pay for shipping at the least! Shipping is expensive so I'm fortunate enough to have family to carry it out from Singapore for me when they'll visit later in the year  :thumb: :thumb:

Overall, OP is good. Be patient and snap up these deals while you guys can!
Title: Re: Keyboards CHEAP or FREE! Project kits! 5 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 26 April 2016, 11:12:22
temporarily locking thread.

shipping is tomorrow for maybe half the buyers

no time to confirm payment of deals made this week. these are unlikely to be shipped.
Title: Re: Keyboards and Projects closeout! 4 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Wed, 27 April 2016, 10:14:57
unlocking after my family started packing orders, some have shipped but not enough. 3 cubic meters remain in my house.

please don't change orders

thread tidied and bump up
Title: Re: Keyboards and Projects closeout! 3 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 28 April 2016, 12:46:29
3 days left!

All big items must go!
Title: Re: Keyboards and Projects closeout! 3 Days left!
Post by: rootwyrm on Fri, 29 April 2016, 07:27:14
A lurking RootWyrm has snapped up two of those beautiful Ducky boards (C06 and J01) and sent payment. :D

Like anyone should be surprised I'm chasing the stiff boards. ;)
Title: Re: Keyboards and Projects closeout! 3 Days left!
Post by: mind_funeral on Fri, 29 April 2016, 09:09:08
chasing the stiff boards.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Title: Re: Keyboards and Projects closeout! 3 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 29 April 2016, 10:55:07
I don't think my Duckies will live very long when under attack by a rootwyrm... someone who can kill a Model M in just 5 years should finish off these Duckies in under 2. Oh well, money is money, can't refuse. White Duck and Green Duck are two dead ducks.
Title: Re: Keyboards and Projects closeout! 3 Days left!
Post by: rootwyrm on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:03:09
I don't think my Duckies will live very long when under attack by a rootwyrm... someone who can kill a Model M in just 5 years should finish off these Duckies in under 2. Oh well, money is money, can't refuse. White Duck and Green Duck are two dead ducks.

Pfft, just make sure you're selling parts that'll let me rebuild the jailhouse greens in two years. Then you can't refuse more money! :D (Seriously though, Ducky boards have held up pretty well. And how could nobody else want that amazingly beautiful Ice shine first? Does nobody have a kid that likes Elsa?!)
Title: Re: Keyboards and Projects closeout! 2 Days left!
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:07:30
2 days left! bump
Title: Re: Keyboards and Projects closeout! 3 Days left!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Fri, 29 April 2016, 11:10:41
I don't think my Duckies will live very long when under attack by a rootwyrm... someone who can kill a Model M in just 5 years should finish off these Duckies in under 2. Oh well, money is money, can't refuse. White Duck and Green Duck are two dead ducks.

Pfft, just make sure you're selling parts that'll let me rebuild the jailhouse greens in two years. Then you can't refuse more money! :D (Seriously though, Ducky boards have held up pretty well. And how could nobody else want that amazingly beautiful Ice shine first? Does nobody have a kid that likes Elsa?!)

D-D-Do.... Do you wanna build a snowman?
Title: Re: Last DAY for huge keyboards sales cum giveaway!
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 30 April 2016, 11:26:44
Bump, and here's a reply to an interested guy re: Grass Valley Board

Sorry for the delay, I have been at work all day.

Were you the one asking for the Grass Valley casing or the keycaps?

Problem is, in the past 3 days, I got messages from different people for this Grass Valley keyboard and unfortunately I rejected them all out of hand.

Actually 1 guy wants only the casing.
1 guy only wants the keycaps
1 guy wants only the vintage Cherry MX blacks.

that's a potentially good fit when taken in totality. I can supply 3 people and earn their gratitude 3x.

I know nocturnalowl is the guy who wants the MX blacks. He will have the PCB.

But who wants the keycaps, and who wants the casing? I haven't got time to plow through a couple hundred PMs to read everything again...
Title: Re: Last DAY for huge keyboards sales cum giveaway!
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 30 April 2016, 20:15:11
I’m under pressure because wife is actually very angry at a lot of things to do with my keyboard hobby.

Ranging from, nasty dremeling sounds of metal on metal.

To drilling sounds.

To paint fumes.

To soldering fumes.

To wasted time when I could be doing home repairs and other things befitting a grown man.

I broke many promises 'this is my last keyboard, no more drilling'. She hates my modded boards more than the cockroaches in the house.

And now I have asked wife and relatives to pack for me when I’m at work, since I have long hours during the weekends/holidays when I get more work.

Packing is not a pleasant job at all with so many orders, changed orders, customized orders, things that must be found and retrieved from many separate boxes, etc. The kids think it is great fun, but the adults are very mad at me for my folly.

My domestic life is teethering on a thread.

When I promise to get rid of Big Things, I must get rid of Big Things.

Whatever doesn’t make it to the post office by close of office hours on May 3, might be hosted in a relative’s place until we have time to write customs forms and go to the post office. NOT IN MY HOUSE.

ONE BOX is all I get to keep.

Many old Geekhackers have the same problem. Fohat and Henz both tell me their wives are giving them hell with regards to old keyboards.

Ps just because I say I get to keep one box and can sell small stuffs next month, doesn’t mean I am going to entertain the kind of orders I used to process in the past when someone can just ask for 1 jailhoused switch and I would send it to him FOC. Not going to rummage through my one huge box to pull out one switch.

Also if no one has noticed, I am taking paypal now. Just going to delete PMs from kids who don’t sound as though they know what they want.  It is amazing that after weeks of me ranting online about troublesome buyers, there are still people who PM me laundry lists, essays, question bombardments, stream-of-consciousness musings about what they might want if only they had the money, etc.

Hello, if you have no money to even pay shipping, musing about what you might want doesn’t get you something just like that! I don’t do that for my kids, why should I do it for you? I am fed up with talking with someone who wants x, y, z free, I help him plan out a 5kg box, and when I say ok that’s $62 shipping to USA, you feign to be shocked that you have to pay shipping.

I’m blue and my house is now like a rubbish bin. I’m Gutz the Grouch, NOT SANTA CLAUS!
Title: Re: Last DAY for huge keyboards sales cum giveaway!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sun, 01 May 2016, 04:44:47
god damn it, looks like you've been having a hard time because of your hobby.
really want to wish ya a good luck on that. i hope you're not getting scolded by your wife again  :blank:

Quote
Ps just because I say I get to keep one box and can sell small stuffs next month, doesn’t mean I am going to entertain the kind of orders I used to process in the past when someone can just ask for 1 jailhoused switch and I would send it to him FOC. Not going to rummage through my one huge box to pull out one switch.

and i really hoping that you're going to keep that yellow bumblebee SP, ducky engraved PBT and those clear stems and brown switches... that's few of those things that i'm going to buy from you later  :))

Title: Re: Last DAY for huge keyboards sales cum giveaway!
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 02 May 2016, 03:53:18
ok, locked. final payments are pending. fohat.digs, the man who set me off on the path of Model F modding, will get to make his selections from everything that was not paid for or claimed.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 09 May 2016, 11:15:17
I've unlocked this post.  If you have people receiving the wrong item (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81871.msg2162957#msg2162957) or nothing at all yet, despite attempts to contact you, you are not "done".

The mod team can't do much here to help, but at the very least we can ensure that people have a place to post publicly regarding the sale.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Mon, 09 May 2016, 11:40:08
Hi all, those of you guys who are waiting on shipment, or received an item, would you guys like to come out and list out what was bought?

I have been talking to one other, user: ikeadragon.

She is also local in singapore so I figure that it'd be worthwhile to see if it was a simple mistake in wrong shipping.

What we've found out is that we've been double sold an item, the KBT Race 75%, SIP modded, 2.2v colorful LEDs, $50.

I also find it odd how OP has locked the thread and deleted the imgur links. (If you guys copied and pasted the items from his catalogue in pms, I encourage you to go check it out.)

I have also sent out a PM on saturday to him, as well as another one today. It is certain and known that he has at least been online the as of 9th of May.

Here's the thing - the both of us has definitely gotten items. It could still be the wrong thing. I want to know what everyone else bought so that if indeed everything is shipped out, we can see where it should be going to, and where it ended up. It will also help to see proof (via pm's, or posts, or pictures of items/mailing labels.) We can consolidate what has been sold, what has been double sold, and who (hopefully nobody) might have just been taken for a ride.

I am more than happy to possibly understand that this is all a mistake, for stress, work, and other circumstances. However it should still be OP who takes and makes every effort to ensure things are being conducted fairly and properly. While I myself may have been thrown under a bus by paying with moneygram, I want to reach out to everyone else to hope that you guys can resolve your issues. At this point for me, money isn't my primary concern. It is a lot, almost 400 after moneygram fees, but the integrity of an individual who was upheld by the community. Those of us who bought from him played by his rules with shipping and payment methods, worked with him and empathized with the situation he had at home, and did so because of his activity and reputation on the boards.

I'll glady start: I ordered

Quote
SP DCS random blanks, grab bags of over 250 each Free
Wristrest $5
Set of 40 1u keycaps  $10

KBT Race 75%, SIP modded, 2.2v colorful LEDs, $50
C03. Filco MJ2 TKL Purple Theme, lubed 72g clears, SIP mod, switch moddable plate, detachable USB cable mod, $100

Tai Haos, 5 sets $40
Filco MJ2 kit, $60
Every colour of LED, $20
Filco MJ1 TKL $30
Deck keyboard kit $20
Deck is 105 switches. $31.5

What I received: http://imgur.com/a/aoGuO

A bunch of ortholinear stuff, a teensy, Filco Manila, keycaps and modifiers.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Floody on Mon, 09 May 2016, 11:48:56
I'll list mine since there is no harm in posting what I paid for. I still think he will pull through.

I picked up both of his Cherry RC128BM's and some mx green switches.

Got a bag of random SA caps. Mostly grey, white and black.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: iss on Mon, 09 May 2016, 11:50:17
WEY HK-2000 black on white doubleshots by GMK $65 0.15 kg
F09. Model M-122 bolt modded, teensy modded, ANSI mod, backplate painted, red paint. $20 2.5 kg
P05. Cooler Master QFR TKL cover .1 kg
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: WNovizar on Mon, 09 May 2016, 11:51:45
Hi all, those of you guys who are waiting on shipment, or received an item, would you guys like to come out and list out what was bought?

I have been talking to one other, user: ikeadragon.

She is also local in singapore so I figure that it'd be worthwhile to see if it was a simple mistake in wrong shipping.

What we've found out is that we've been double sold an item, the KBT Race 75%, SIP modded, 2.2v colorful LEDs, $50.

I also find it odd how OP has locked the thread and deleted the imgur links. (If you guys copied and pasted the items from his catalogue in pms, I encourage you to go check it out.)

I have also sent out a PM on saturday to him, as well as another one today. It is certain and known that he has at least been online the as of 9th of May.

Here's the thing - the both of us has definitely gotten items. It could still be the wrong thing. I want to know what everyone else bought so that if indeed everything is shipped out, we can see where it should be going to, and where it ended up. It will also help to see proof (via pm's, or posts, or pictures of items/mailing labels.) We can consolidate what has been sold, what has been double sold, and who (hopefully nobody) might have just been taken for a ride.

I am more than happy to possibly understand that this is all a mistake, for stress, work, and other circumstances. However it should still be OP who takes and makes every effort to ensure things are being conducted fairly and properly. While I myself may have been thrown under a bus by paying with moneygram, I want to reach out to everyone else to hope that you guys can resolve your issues. At this point for me, money isn't my primary concern. It is a lot, almost 400 after moneygram fees, but the integrity of an individual who was upheld by the community. Those of us who bought from him played by his rules with shipping and payment methods, worked with him and empathized with the situation he had at home, and did so because of his activity and reputation on the boards.

I'll glady start: I ordered

Quote
SP DCS random blanks, grab bags of over 250 each Free
Wristrest $5
Set of 40 1u keycaps  $10

KBT Race 75%, SIP modded, 2.2v colorful LEDs, $50
C03. Filco MJ2 TKL Purple Theme, lubed 72g clears, SIP mod, switch moddable plate, detachable USB cable mod, $100

Tai Haos, 5 sets $40
Filco MJ2 kit, $60
Every colour of LED, $20
Filco MJ1 TKL $30
Deck keyboard kit $20
Deck is 105 switches. $31.5

What I received: http://imgur.com/a/aoGuO

A bunch of ortholinear stuff, a teensy, Filco Manila, keycaps and modifiers.

Since both you and ikeadragon are in local neighborhood from him, why don't you visit him? I mean, all of you are in singapore, right?
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Tyr on Mon, 09 May 2016, 11:55:45
With a sale of this size and hectic nature, I'd be surprised if there weren't any mistakes but hopefully not too much. My package is still en route to Antwerp. Let's not lose our heads here and go looking for trouble where there is none.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rootwyrm on Mon, 09 May 2016, 12:07:33
Folks in the May 3rd shipment batch for the US may already have their packages amongst our amber waves of grain, but this is destination dependent. (Ohio definitely should all be here, but that's probably just me.) Check your Paypal if you didn't get a PM with a tracking number.
Remember, UNITED STATES CUSTOMS CAN TAKE ANYWHERE FROM 2 DAYS TO 4 WEEKS - OR LONGER IF THE INSPECTOR IS BEING A ****. If your package is reported by SingPost as "Arrival at Destination Post" then this means that it has arrived for customs processing. Allow SingPost 2 business days for any updates after arrival in the destination country. (Their words, not mine!)
The SAME TRACKING NUMBER is apparently supposed to go live on USPS tracking when the package has cleared customs. That's your "RC#########SG" number. Which is pretty neat.

Here's the complete list of what I ordered:

C06 - Ducky Shine 3 Ice Theme with SIP Mod
J01 - Ducky Shine 1 Jailhouse Green with SIP and Plate Mods
1 set of blank white PBT keycaps (he said he was out of the DCS so he was going to ship leftovers he was going to let the kids dye. I told him to take his pick of what was left. Not even a little picky on those.)
1x Teensy 2.0++ with pins
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Mon, 09 May 2016, 12:09:49
Hi all, those of you guys who are waiting on shipment, or received an item, would you guys like to come out and list out what was bought?

I have been talking to one other, user: ikeadragon.

She is also local in singapore so I figure that it'd be worthwhile to see if it was a simple mistake in wrong shipping.

What we've found out is that we've been double sold an item, the KBT Race 75%, SIP modded, 2.2v colorful LEDs, $50.

I also find it odd how OP has locked the thread and deleted the imgur links. (If you guys copied and pasted the items from his catalogue in pms, I encourage you to go check it out.)

I have also sent out a PM on saturday to him, as well as another one today. It is certain and known that he has at least been online the as of 9th of May.

Here's the thing - the both of us has definitely gotten items. It could still be the wrong thing. I want to know what everyone else bought so that if indeed everything is shipped out, we can see where it should be going to, and where it ended up. It will also help to see proof (via pm's, or posts, or pictures of items/mailing labels.) We can consolidate what has been sold, what has been double sold, and who (hopefully nobody) might have just been taken for a ride.

I am more than happy to possibly understand that this is all a mistake, for stress, work, and other circumstances. However it should still be OP who takes and makes every effort to ensure things are being conducted fairly and properly. While I myself may have been thrown under a bus by paying with moneygram, I want to reach out to everyone else to hope that you guys can resolve your issues. At this point for me, money isn't my primary concern. It is a lot, almost 400 after moneygram fees, but the integrity of an individual who was upheld by the community. Those of us who bought from him played by his rules with shipping and payment methods, worked with him and empathized with the situation he had at home, and did so because of his activity and reputation on the boards.

I'll glady start: I ordered

Quote
SP DCS random blanks, grab bags of over 250 each Free
Wristrest $5
Set of 40 1u keycaps  $10

KBT Race 75%, SIP modded, 2.2v colorful LEDs, $50
C03. Filco MJ2 TKL Purple Theme, lubed 72g clears, SIP mod, switch moddable plate, detachable USB cable mod, $100

Tai Haos, 5 sets $40
Filco MJ2 kit, $60
Every colour of LED, $20
Filco MJ1 TKL $30
Deck keyboard kit $20
Deck is 105 switches. $31.5

What I received: http://imgur.com/a/aoGuO

A bunch of ortholinear stuff, a teensy, Filco Manila, keycaps and modifiers.

Since both you and ikeadragon are in local neighborhood from him, why don't you visit him? I mean, all of you are in singapore, right?

Ikeadragon had it delivered.

I too had it delivered. I have an address in Singapore, but I live in the US, Chicago.

I hope he does pull through. I mean we're all susceptible to mistakes, and we learn from them. He's never done something on this scale before, his family is helping him out which compounds the potential for errors. At the end of the day I'm sure all we want is the stuff we paid for.

My plan going forward is to hope that that everything is all a big misunderstanding. If beserkfan goes dark, we can sort things out as a community.

1. By posting what we ordered and what we got, we can compare and cross check where everything should go.
2. We can start to send the items to the original people that bought them. Of course, this requires your fine measures of integrity and honesty. But if we work together we can certainly manage to get most of the stuff to where it should go. It will cost more money, it will take more time, but at the end of the day solving problems and getting things right is what is important for the community.
3.Work out what is simply missing. Maybe we can pool together something for those who get burned. I don't know.

The more people that come out and open the books, the better our picture of the situation will be.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Mon, 09 May 2016, 12:11:42
With a sale of this size and hectic nature, I'd be surprised if there weren't any mistakes but hopefully not too much. My package is still en route to Antwerp. Let's not lose our heads here and go looking for trouble where there is none.

As it is, there is definitely "trouble" for at least two of us who have had things delivered to local addresses. I'm trying to reach out to anybody else that was local in SG - maybe we just have a package roulette to take care of locally. Hopefully it isn't the same situation overseas.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mike52787 on Mon, 09 May 2016, 12:31:20
I ordered a f-122 ansi modded, a f-50 keypad, a plu-87 mx clear tkl, a set of bs keycaps and a reuters g80-9009 board. He also threw in a scroll lock mx doubleshot cap and a few model m screws. My package is still in shipping, but Ill let you know if anything is awry. If anything is wrong im sure that it wasnt intentional!
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mind_funeral on Mon, 09 May 2016, 12:40:15
I bought the J.06 Poker X on April 20th using moneygram.  Have not received tracking or confirmation.  He picked up the money from money gram today.  Messaged and still no word back.


Some PMs:
Yes, sorry.  I have never used moneygram before.  I didn't know there was a reference # at first.  Here is the reference # you need: XXXXXXXX.  For shipping, please ship in the poker X box unless you wanna throw some random freebies in there.  Here is my name and address:

OMITTED

Please note that my state is MS for MISSISSIPPI.  (Sometimes confused with California)

Thanks again!

Money sent for the Poker X.  Have a good day.  Looking forward to the new board.

ty. I think I'm supposed to get a code for the Moneygram transfer so that I can collect it? Also you got to give me your name and address!

Yes, if you didn't stress MS, I would have thought Long Beach refers to CA too!

I still have faith that my stuff is shipped though.  Hoping for the best.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: laughatpain on Mon, 09 May 2016, 13:58:29
I paid for a set of premium WoB keys, a teensy 2.0 without pins, bolt modding kit, 150 old switch top and bottoms, and 100 teal LEDs. The total was $100 shipped so i wouldnt be to bummed about the loss of money, but more so that I'd have to source all the items again. Last message from berserk was sending the payment confirmation and nothing since.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: WhitePlate on Mon, 09 May 2016, 14:15:24
I ordered a zinc keycap set but got the wrong one.  Berserk hasn't responded to my messages since May 4th :(
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: ideus on Mon, 09 May 2016, 14:53:52
With a sale of this size and hectic nature, I'd be surprised if there weren't any mistakes but hopefully not too much. My package is still en route to Antwerp. Let's not lose our heads here and go looking for trouble where there is none.

I cannot help, but think that I did well when I decided to not get into this buy, sorry fellas.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Tyr on Mon, 09 May 2016, 14:58:29
I cannot help, but think that I did well when I decided to not get into this buy, sorry fellas.

Meh, we'll see. Buying something sight unseen from virtual strangers on the internet is always a gamble. And you know what they say: "Never gamble what you can't afford to lose."
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 09 May 2016, 17:01:07
Chill, guys. With this stuff coming on "a slow boat from (somewhere near) China" it will be weeks before anything is finally settled.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Mon, 09 May 2016, 17:25:47
Exactly why I thought to get the word out soon.

Why the warning was originally sounded and why we should act now rather than sooner
More
I consider myself to have been a local sale - the easiest to remedy if things go wrong. But when it is not just myself, I began to reach out to see what's going on.

It's true - the slow boat may take a while to reach you guys, and finally get to see the entire picture, but if we piece together what we have proactively it means that we can take actions for when things finally arrive for everybody.

A big part of me wants to thing it's a mistake. But so far, a number of people have been affected, which makes it seem to not be a coincidence. It could very much have been beserkfan being overloaded with pm's, requests, stress, etc. But that doesn't excuse the lack of communication to many people, nor the apparent growing number of wrong orders reaching the wrong people. 

I was not nor will it ever be my goal of starting a witch hunt - I just want clarity and transparency about what is happening and why things are turning out the way they currently are heading. I cannot nor will not fault beserkfan until we have more evidence or a statement of any kind - innocent until proven otherwise. A misunderstanding until proven malicious.

For now, I want to open the floor for people to be transparent about what was bought so we understand the scale of logistics involved as an attempt to piece the entire puzzle together.



Comments like "I cannot help, but think that I did well when I decided to not get into this buy, sorry fellas." doesn't help diffuse the situation, but rather has the potential to stir up and aggravate a pot. Lets just have ideas, and discussion about:

1. The problem at hand;;
2. How to solve the problem at hand
3. What actions we can take to minimise the loss to everyone involved,

and to do that we can

A. Provide ideas or possibilities for 1 and 2;
B. Come out and tell us what you have bought so that we can provide a mental image of the operations at hand;
C. Tell us what you have received when/if you get something.
D. Any other details, such as tracking numbers, confirmations, any breakdown of communications, etc.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 09 May 2016, 17:52:05
Chill, guys. With this stuff coming on "a slow boat from (somewhere near) China" it will be weeks before anything is finally settled.

You are absolutely correct. No need to overreact yet in those cases. I do think that communicating amongst people that *have* already received incorrect items and haven't heard from berserk in a week is fair game though. He should be available to tend to any issues that occur during his sale.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mind_funeral on Mon, 09 May 2016, 17:58:34
Chill, guys. With this stuff coming on "a slow boat from (somewhere near) China" it will be weeks before anything is finally settled.

You are absolutely correct. No need to overreact yet in those cases. I do think that communicating amongst people that *have* already received incorrect items and haven't heard from berserk in a week is fair game though. He should be available to tend to any issues that occur during his sale.

Not to mention some people received tracking or confirmation of shipment and some didn't.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: ideus on Mon, 09 May 2016, 18:09:40

"Never gamble what you can't afford to lose."

Well said.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Mon, 09 May 2016, 18:47:27

"Never gamble what you can't afford to lose."

Well said.

I don't think this is a matter of crying about lost money in the form of a gamble - I don't disagree with the essence of the message though. I don't think that the statement is fair, however.

A gamble is a two - way game, and in many ways similar to a sale. In fact, gambling can me made similar not to the prospect of gaining more than you put in, but rather the thrill of the wager. Gambling is very different to what we have in the present case - in a wager, there is clear communication on odds, clear communication about risks involved and the follow up to collect or pay out.

In our case, there is no thrill, no wager, and unclear communication. In fact, up until the point of sale was made, communication was good. What is lacking is the follow up.

I want to be clear that it should not be about the money involved. It is an important factor, surely, but that shouldn't be the primary motivation to expect that things are done right and followed through to the end. It is the very fact that there is no follow up post sales nor the attempt to ensure that items were correctly distributed is the problem here. A scam, or theft, bait and switch, or a dump and run is one thing, however what makes this case unique is that there doesn't seem to be an attempt to do this. Items were indeed sent out - ruling out a scam/theft. Items that beserkfan clearly had, partially ruling out bait and switch. These are symptoms of poor management and communication - neither of which correspond to gambling, regardless of whether we can "afford to lose" or not. Gambling is exclusively mutual in this case. 
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 09 May 2016, 18:52:31
I know from experience that selling a large number of relatively valuable items is a tedious and time-consuming process.

Being forced to make a large dump in a brief period of time is a recipe for a panic attack and a disaster.
Not to mention that shipping dozens of odd parcels internationally is a daunting endeavor in itself.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: phosphoric on Mon, 09 May 2016, 21:05:03
have not received a tracking number or a response since sending him my moneygram payment. the money was picked up either this morning or yesterday - don't remember - but i'm not especially concerned. there is a lot of stuff being shipped out, and it is kind of chaotic to deal with.

i ordered a filco majestouch (full size) with stock mx clears and 70 mx brown switches. when the need arises, i will look through my pms, but they may have been deleted by my daily woofs... either way, i'm not too scared about getting burned and have all the time in the world.
I know from experience that selling a large number of relatively valuable items is a tedious and time-consuming process.

Being forced to make a large dump in a brief period of time is a recipe for a panic attack and a disaster.
Not to mention that shipping dozens of odd parcels internationally is a daunting endeavor in itself.
while this input is appreciated, there's no need to doubt the op. you have nothing to gain from this discussion outside of a sense of false smugness, and it's really entirely unnecessary to try and cast doubt on a community member to everybody who's participated in this sale and who is already concerned with having potentially lost money, despite whatever "experience" you may have. if nothing else, this type of commentary is contributing to the toxicity that has surrounded the keyboard community as of late.

it's great that we're cynical enough to stay aware of when we may be getting burned, but when there's no such evidence so far, it's doing nothing but harm.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mind_funeral on Mon, 09 May 2016, 21:17:24
I know from experience that selling a large number of relatively valuable items is a tedious and time-consuming process.

Being forced to make a large dump in a brief period of time is a recipe for a panic attack and a disaster.
Not to mention that shipping dozens of odd parcels internationally is a daunting endeavor in itself.
while this input is appreciated, there's no need to doubt the op. you have nothing to gain from this discussion outside of a sense of false smugness, and it's really entirely unnecessary to try and cast doubt on a community member to everybody who's participated in this sale and who is already concerned with having potentially lost money, despite whatever "experience" you may have. if nothing else, this type of commentary is contributing to the toxicity that has surrounded the keyboard community as of late.

it's great that we're cynical enough to stay aware of when we may be getting burned, but when there's no such evidence so far, it's doing nothing but harm.

Foghat was empathizing with OP.  Slow your roll.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 09 May 2016, 22:01:38
The post office tried to deliver today, but there was no one here to sign for it.  They will redeliver tomorrow, and someone should be here, so I will post the results.  But just the fact that it is here is enough to say that he is not just no shipping.  Things just take time.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: gtxorb on Mon, 09 May 2016, 22:19:36
Here is what I ordered and what I got:

and there is another off topic thread talked about this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81871.0   but I suggest use this original one to track everything.

I paid with bank transfer for $470
 
What I ordered:
1.Massdrop Granite Sets
  3 common kit    81
  2 text mods  50
  1 text pro mods  22
  1 specialty keycaps  14
2.Filco SA profile keycaps  40
3.Grab bags of at least 100 DSA keycaps    20
4.190 of green swith (PCB mounted), 140 of white switch(PCB mounted), 40 grey switch  160
5.2 of Teensy 2.0 with pins  32
6.SA white Blanks, new, at least 20, $10
7.SA dark coloured blanks, new, at least 20, $10
8.DSA keycaps  , $20
   (41 set of red blanks
   42 set of white blanks
   A few numpad sets
   A lot of misc or novelty)
9.SP green SA relegendables All 30 for $24

What I got:
(http://i.imgur.com/rXhJrOB.jpg)

Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: DannyHuynh on Mon, 09 May 2016, 22:47:02
What I ordered:
Filco SA Keycaps Full Size

Quote
The Filco TKL is taken. What’s left is the Filco fullsize, together with all the extra ISO and 1u winkeys and blanks and extra keycaps for ISO and JIS use. That is seen on my JIS filco here. https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=78531.0;attach=133252;image
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=78531.0;attach=133250;image
I collected everything together and will sell together for $50.

With shipping $8.
+ Fees, totalling $64.59.

What I've got
(http://i.imgur.com/BiJAV4z.jpg)
These are neither the Filco not SA Profile caps, just hope OP could help me sort this out
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: ikeadragon on Mon, 09 May 2016, 23:14:43
Hi all,

Thanks, Skysophrenic, gtxorb. Here's my photo album of stuff ordered/obtained + screenshots of our PMs. http://imgur.com/a/Emw1T

I did a quick read through of what people ordered, I think there may be two double orders so far i.e. mine and Skysophrenic's KBT Race, mine and phosphoric's Filco MJ stock clears (@phosphoric could you check if you also ordered C10.? I can't remember how many Filco's there were and I have a feeling there was only one) , and nobody ordering what I got:

Ordered these:
1. C07. Corsair K95, lubed 60g clears, SIP mod Old Glory Theme, $70 http://imgur.com/73pYdb9 http://imgur.com/C1N9OlJ  http://imgur.com/Na4yyKE
2. C10. Filco MJ1 fullsize, stock clears with new PBT doubleshot keycaps, $70 http://imgur.com/eV9FD6j
3. J05. KBT Race 75%, SIP modded, 2.2v colorful LEDs, $50 http://imgur.com/IQwMZGP

Keycaps:
4. Cyan on White dyesubs (ownership pictures taken with Filco Majestouch because I forgot about this set.) NIB Fullsize ANSI $20

Headphones:
5. Sonicgear Green Bluetooth headphones
6. Sharkoon headphones


I've only got the headphones of what I ordered; berserkfan sounded stressed out, so I assumed he might have swapped a Singapore order (it doesn't look like it from what Sky and I have). Anyone else in Singapore?

@WNovizar, I offered to drive to his place to pick it up to save on postage, but he said his family members were shipping it out all together (first screenshot of PMs in my album http://imgur.com/a/Emw1T) and I relented.

I only have his UOB account number; no return address or name or number. I've blanked it out for now, but if worse comes to worst...just know that I have this info. If it really turns out poorly, I'm available in SG to knock on his door (I'm assuming there would be someone somewhere on GH who has mailed him stuff before, or someone who transferred him via MoneyGram and obtained his address and can provide it).

I am reserving judgement for now, but I'll be honest; it doesn't look good with the double orders, deletion of main post, deletion of imgur links et al. This could turn out as the last-game play in a recurring Prisoners' Dilemma.


** edit: as of 2000h 10 May 2016 SGT, double/triple sold:
ikeadragon, Skysophrenic, biocalves - J05. KBT Race 75%, SIP modded, 2.2v colorful LEDs, $50
ikeadragon, phosphoric, ponnx - C10. Filco MJ1 fullsize, stock clears with new PBT doubleshot keycaps, $70
ikeadragon, ponnx - C07. Corsair K95, lubed 60g clears, SIP mod Old Glory Theme, $70

ponnx, gtxorb, Dymloslouire - DSA grab bag - $20
nugglets, biocalves - Vortex White on White Doubleshot PBT for Backlit - $22

~ikeadragon, biocalves - Cyan on White Thick PBT $20 <-- same set? Mine was also $20 but dyesub, I don't remember if there were multiple sets of these going out..



...Impression's getting worse by the day...
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Mon, 09 May 2016, 23:21:46
Never thought that the sale will become something like this. It's my first time buying from someone @ geekhack too.

Here's my list.

1 cherry wob grab bag (30)
Dsa grab bag (20)
30 x clear stem (9)
Filco stock keycaps 1 set (5)
Taihao (red, yellow) (16)
(And other freebies. I don't know what will he sent me, i said to make it as a surprise lol)
+ 19,2 shipping, totalling 99,2 usd, i transferred the money using WU, converting it to 138sgd.

I'll be updating my received package as well, but he hasn't sent me a tracking code either.

I'm in indonesia, but if anyone want to knock his door i'll be available for a airplane flight.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: gtxorb on Tue, 10 May 2016, 00:46:52
Never thought that the sale will become something like this. It's my first time buying from someone @ geekhack too.

Here's my list.

1 cherry wob grab bag (30)
Dsa grab bag (20)
30 x clear stem (9)
Filco stock keycaps 1 set (5)
Taihao (red, yellow) (16)
(And other freebies. I don't know what will he sent me, i said to make it as a surprise lol)
+ 19,2 shipping, totalling 99,2 usd, i transferred the money using WU, converting it to 138sgd.

I'll be updating my received package as well, but he hasn't sent me a tracking code either.

I'm in indonesia, but if anyone want to knock his door i'll be available for a airplane flight.


I got PM from "ponnx", he ordered DSA grab as well.

HOPE there are at least 3 grab bags.....
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Scarpia on Tue, 10 May 2016, 00:48:45
Adding my order:

Model F XT teensied, no other mods $25
Model F 50 keys teensied $50
Model F bigfoot stock free
KBC PokerX, SIP modded $35
KBT Pure, unlubed 78g clears, blue theme case+cable $100
Thick PBT colored grab bag, 80 pieces $10
2 x Teensy 2.0 no pins

Not sure if my PokerX is the same as the one mentioned before :-/
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: kekman on Tue, 10 May 2016, 00:54:15
I ordered F02 and F18, 1 of each.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: biocalves on Tue, 10 May 2016, 01:32:03
Well this is interesting considering I ordered these:

DSA Grab Bag - $20
Vortex White on White Doubleshot PBT for Backlit - $22
J05. KBT Race 75% - $50
Cyan on White Thick PBT - $20

I'm in the US so I haven't received anything yet but from the posts I see there are plenty of other people who ordered what I ordered. Interesting to see how this pans out.

Edit: I ended up paying via Paypal gift because of how much noise he was making over the whole Paypal fees and whatnot. But, that's completely my fault.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: nugglets on Tue, 10 May 2016, 01:39:07
Well this is interesting considering I ordered these:

DSA Grab Bag - $20
Vortex White on White Doubleshot PBT for Backlit - $22
J05. KBT Race 75% - $50
Cyan on White Thick PBT - $20

I'm in the US so I haven't received anything yet but from the posts I see there are plenty of other people who ordered what I ordered. Interesting to see how this pans out.

I also paid for the Vortex set, and am in SoCal... This should be fun.

Going to give him the benefit of the doubt, since he did have a TON of ****. So not unlikely there were multiples of things.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: biocalves on Tue, 10 May 2016, 01:43:15
Well this is interesting considering I ordered these:

DSA Grab Bag - $20
Vortex White on White Doubleshot PBT for Backlit - $22
J05. KBT Race 75% - $50
Cyan on White Thick PBT - $20

I'm in the US so I haven't received anything yet but from the posts I see there are plenty of other people who ordered what I ordered. Interesting to see how this pans out.

I also paid for the Vortex set, and am in SoCal... This should be fun.

Going to give him the benefit of the doubt, since he did have a TON of ****. So not unlikely there were multiples of things.

Well that could be true for certain items like the KBT Race or Cyan on White PBTs, but things like DSA grab bag where he wrote that he would include every DSA cap he could find was sold to at least 3 people here that I count so there's bound to be people that are going to be disappointed.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: gtxorb on Tue, 10 May 2016, 02:25:27
dump question is "Last Active" the time people last login or at least online?

I get this from Berserk
Local Time:2016-05-10, 02:22:49
Last Active: 2016-05-10, 02:19:28
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Khers on Tue, 10 May 2016, 02:49:32
Ok, reading this makes me slightly concerned. I ordered:
So far I see that me and Scarpia seem to have ordered the same Bigfoot (IIRC there was but one). That's interesting considering berserk's writing that he was glad someone finally showed some interest in the Bigfoot. Anyway, it's a freebie, so I can't be too mad, but without it my shipping would have been a fifth of what is was. Will be interesting to see what shows up. More so than if the progression of this sale would have been normal. That's fun, I guess.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: ponnx on Tue, 10 May 2016, 03:35:27
I don't want to be too panic but I saw that my order and the others some items are the same.
I paid for everything in 2 payments via Western Union $116 and $170 total : $286
I got the PM from him on 4th May about the tracking.


Here is the list of what I asked for.

Quote
- C07. Corsair K95, lubed 60g clears, SIP mod Old Glory Theme, $70
- C10. Filco MJ1 fullsize, stock clears with new PBT doubleshot keycaps, $70
- F22. Model M M5-2 with top right hand trackball w/ new keycap set $20
- Ducky Side Printed keycaps $10
- Thick PBT colored grab bag $10 for 80
- WYSE thick keycaps $8-15
- 1 set of  Filco stock keycaps $5
- Grab bags of at least 100 DSA keycaps, mostly red and white blanks but also numpads and novelties $20
- Cherry Thin PBT – you get 1 set
- Chinese doubleshot keycaps $
- 2 x transparent keycaps are $10 for a bag of 40 1u keycaps
- SP DCS random blanks, grab bags of over 250 each. Free.

Hope that everything will be fine after all.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Tue, 10 May 2016, 05:00:22
Too many people ordering those DSA grabbags lol. I'm prepared to taste a butthurt since it seems that i paid last.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: jaffers on Tue, 10 May 2016, 05:37:22
If you could dig some of those keyboards out of the dumpster I'd be happy to pay shipping
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 10 May 2016, 06:49:39
- cherry WoB premium set $50
- Unicomp blank set $20
- Model F AT teensied, spacebar mod, ANSI mod. Black painted plate $130
- Model F 50 keys teensied $50
- orihalcon SDL to USB cable $15
- 2 keyboards worth of model m hammer
- bolt mod leftover stuff

this is my order
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 10 May 2016, 07:13:29

Never thought that the sale will become something like this. It's my first time buying from someone @ geekhack too.


"the sale" is an inadequate descriptor for this event

It is probably the largest and most convoluted set of transactions in the history of the forum.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Khers on Tue, 10 May 2016, 07:29:23
[...]
- orihalcon SDL to USB cable $15
[...]
Great, I hope he had more than one...
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mind_funeral on Tue, 10 May 2016, 07:42:15
Adding my order:

KBC PokerX, SIP modded $35

Not sure if my PokerX is the same as the one mentioned before :-/

Yes this is the same one. **** **** ****... I even made a post about how good of a seller he was...
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rootwyrm on Tue, 10 May 2016, 08:24:43
The post office tried to deliver today, but there was no one here to sign for it.  They will redeliver tomorrow, and someone should be here, so I will post the results.  But just the fact that it is here is enough to say that he is not just no shipping.  Things just take time.

Can we ask folks who have received a package or attempted delivery post their location please? It'll help the rest of us know roughly when we should expect things to arrive.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 10 May 2016, 08:29:26
I ordered a G80-1950, WEY caps, and a QFR replacement top.  Got a package a few days ago with just the QFR replacement top.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Tue, 10 May 2016, 10:03:10
I ordered F02 and F18, 1 of each.

What specifically were those? The original catalogue has been deleted so can't really go and look it up.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Tue, 10 May 2016, 10:26:53
Hi All,

Work in progress, but what I have here is a Spreadsheet of everything that has been bought. THIS WILL END UP BEING EDITED.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hdp5VngkejeTHM_U8G2JFJUCGYrsgH_-GX1EmXfHx5g/edit?usp=sharing

What I ask now is for people to contribute screen shots of pm's and timestamps of items you received. Do not share personal details (edit those out) and do not post OP's details just yet.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 10 May 2016, 11:29:20
The post office tried to deliver today, but there was no one here to sign for it.  They will redeliver tomorrow, and someone should be here, so I will post the results.  But just the fact that it is here is enough to say that he is not just no shipping.  Things just take time.

Can we ask folks who have received a package or attempted delivery post their location please? It'll help the rest of us know roughly when we should expect things to arrive.

It actually doesn't, and might be misleading.  My package was very light, and was just caps, and is quite early.  They can fit smaller, lighter packages on ships easier than they can larger items.  So, personally, I think it's counterproductive and can lead to more stress.  Use this link to singpost (http://www.singpost.com/send-documentparcel/transit-time.html) to tell approximate times of shipment rather than others fortunate shipping times.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Tue, 10 May 2016, 11:33:34
Hi All,

Work in progress, but what I have here is a Spreadsheet of everything that has been bought. THIS WILL END UP BEING EDITED.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hdp5VngkejeTHM_U8G2JFJUCGYrsgH_-GX1EmXfHx5g/edit?usp=sharing

What I ask now is for people to contribute screen shots of pm's and timestamps of items you received. Do not share personal details (edit those out) and do not post OP's details just yet.

PM'd my proof.



Never thought that the sale will become something like this. It's my first time buying from someone @ geekhack too.


"the sale" is an inadequate descriptor for this event

It is probably the largest and most convoluted set of transactions in the history of the forum.


for someone that doesn't want to do a GB at first, this is quite commendable  :))
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Moistgun on Tue, 10 May 2016, 11:44:37
Kudos to you for purging everything at such generous prices.

I would have loved to get some of your boards, but shipping overseas was too much to handle.



Edit: I take that back

Dayum.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mind_funeral on Tue, 10 May 2016, 12:30:32
Kudos to you for purging everything at such generous prices.

I would have loved to get some of your boards, but shipping overseas was too much to handle.

I guess you skipped last 2 pages before posting...
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: biocalves on Tue, 10 May 2016, 12:34:58
Kudos to you for purging everything at such generous prices.

I would have loved to get some of your boards, but shipping overseas was too much to handle.

I guess you skipped last 2 pages before posting...

 :))
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mike52787 on Tue, 10 May 2016, 12:41:33
I have faith that he will come through. I just hope nothing he sold got trashed! Im with fohat on this one, This has to be one of the biggest sales in the history of this site. Something of this scale isnt easy to manage and **** happens. I just hope I get most of what I ordered.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mind_funeral on Tue, 10 May 2016, 12:52:40
Things were double sold, no one has gotten the right shipments, and communication has stopped.  I'm skeptical  :-[
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 10 May 2016, 13:24:54
Things were double sold, no one has gotten the right shipments, and communication has stopped.  I'm skeptical  :-[

I wouldn't say no one has gotten the right shipments. Those that have wouldn't necessarily even check the thread. As I said, mine is at the post office, so as I'm updating the thread, that might be a positive to balance out. Time will tell.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: WhitePlate on Tue, 10 May 2016, 13:44:10
I ordered a full set of blank zinc caps.  I recieved 37 blank zinc caps.  If you recieved the full set in the wrong package please notify me. :(
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mason on Tue, 10 May 2016, 13:46:30
I ordered a Cherry WoB Premium Bag on May 1st. No tracking number yet  :(

oh wait I did the $6 tracking which doesn't have a tracking number.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rootwyrm on Tue, 10 May 2016, 14:19:01
The post office tried to deliver today, but there was no one here to sign for it.  They will redeliver tomorrow, and someone should be here, so I will post the results.  But just the fact that it is here is enough to say that he is not just no shipping.  Things just take time.

Can we ask folks who have received a package or attempted delivery post their location please? It'll help the rest of us know roughly when we should expect things to arrive.

It actually doesn't, and might be misleading.  My package was very light, and was just caps, and is quite early.  They can fit smaller, lighter packages on ships easier than they can larger items.  So, personally, I think it's counterproductive and can lead to more stress.  Use this link to singpost (http://www.singpost.com/send-documentparcel/transit-time.html) to tell approximate times of shipment rather than others fortunate shipping times.

Actually, it does, because SingPost's data lags up to 2 business days and depending, shipments may actually be going air rather than sea. SeaMail is the branding, not a statement of method these days. There's a massive number of factors to consider as I mentioned previously as to when you will actually get your package, not the least of which is your local customs processing. Generally speaking folks in the US with simple orders should see roughly similar delivery times though. For example, folks in Cleveland and Chicago should expect similar delivery dates plus or minus customs. It may be MUCH faster than stated (e.g. May 3rd shipments for the US east coast probably all entered the country on May 6th via air freight) or it may be slower.

That said, the real point in posting said information is so that folks who have not received tracking information can have SOME idea as to whether or not they should be keeping an eye out something this week, next week, or not start worrying yet based on when they paid and when it was shipped. We don't want to have folks screaming bloody murder when they shouldn't even be expecting anything for two more weeks. It's not fair to anyone if that starts happening.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 10 May 2016, 14:27:29
He explicitly told me sea mail, and quoted me rates for that.  The only reason I found out it was singpost was from the provided tracking number.  Did he say something different to you?  And it would be misleading no matter the method- in fact your argument makes it more misleading, not less.  My package was supposedly sent 2 weeks ago to the US.  There is no way that by any measure it should be here.  But it is.  And that lapse in time is no where near typical, so using that rather than singpost times would be folly.


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Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Tyr on Tue, 10 May 2016, 14:42:39
If I were in Singapore I'd probably devote less time to this thread than to figuring out what dumpsters are near beserkfan's house to get the stuff he's throwing out.  ;D
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Tue, 10 May 2016, 14:57:13
Updated sheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hdp5VngkejeTHM_U8G2JFJUCGYrsgH_-GX1EmXfHx5g/edit?usp=sharing

Provide me as much info as you can if you are connected to what has happened here! We already have cases of some double/triple sold.

I have also come across some questionable payment details (things not matching up). But I'm treading lightly on this matter. Stay tuned.

Will check back again later tonight.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: ideus on Tue, 10 May 2016, 15:00:07
Updated sheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hdp5VngkejeTHM_U8G2JFJUCGYrsgH_-GX1EmXfHx5g/edit?usp=sharing

Provide me as much info as you can if you are connected to what has happened here! We already have cases of some double/triple sold.

I have also come across some questionable payment details (things not matching up). But I'm treading lightly on this matter. Stay tuned.

Will check back again later tonight.

It seems like a lot of work; but, what do you think you can do with the information, besides verifying double sold items? The OP asked people to pay using wire transfer and western union that are basically with no claim resources.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: codywanks on Tue, 10 May 2016, 15:01:33
I ordered a full set of blank zinc caps.  I recieved 37 blank zinc caps.  If you recieved the full set in the wrong package please notify me. :(

Perhaps I could shed some light here. Many people refer to the MKC Zinc 37-key set (http://www.geekkeys.com/mkc-silver-blank-metal-zinc-37-keyset/) as a "full set". Even Massdrop marketed it that way until several users including myself complained that it was misleading.

I don't think they make modifier keys in zinc, hence I doubt a *full* 87 or 108-key zinc set exists (unless OP explicitly stated otherwise). Hope this helps.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rootwyrm on Tue, 10 May 2016, 15:07:14
He explicitly told me sea mail, and quoted me rates for that.  The only reason I found out it was singpost was from the provided tracking number.  Did he say something different to you?  And it would be misleading no matter the method- in fact your argument makes it more misleading, not less.  My package was supposedly sent 2 weeks ago to the US.  There is no way that by any measure it should be here.  But it is.  And that lapse in time is no where near typical, so using that rather than singpost times would be folly.

Oh, no. Please, nobody think that he was lying or being misleading about the shipping method or costs. I can confirm for you that the 'SeaMail' part and the costs associated were completely truthful. Here's the thing though. SeaMail is a branded service that may use SingPost - it's like when your Amazon package gets delivered by your USPS mailman even though it went UPS and has a UPS tracking number.
And here's a direct link to SingPost where you can look up your overseas shipping costs. Just plug in the appropriate country and weight. (http://beta.singpost.com/send-receive/send-overseas)

For a 5kg package to the US without tracking going economy without customs processing fees, insurance, delivery to your door, or residential delivery it is $80 for a delivery window of not LESS than 42 days. For SpeedPost Standard it is $116 base rate to get it into the US in 10-14 days. 2.5kg packages are the exact same because it's a 1-5kg standardized unit. Just like FedEx Ground and UPS Ground, SeaMail is the branding for "surface mail service." It does not guarantee that your package is going proverbial slow boat from China! It's like when I order a package from Amazon with "no rush" shipping - I usually see it in 2 days anyway because I'm close to a major distribution center.
I definitely would not view it as misleading or a negative. He managed to over-deliver on the shipping (faster, full tracking, insurance, etc.) despite a significantly higher cost normally.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: codywanks on Tue, 10 May 2016, 15:12:40
Oh, no. Please, nobody think that he was lying or being misleading about the shipping method or costs. I can confirm for you that the 'SeaMail' part and the costs associated were completely truthful. Here's the thing though. SeaMail is a branded service that may use SingPost - it's like when your Amazon package gets delivered by your USPS mailman even though it went UPS and has a UPS tracking number.
And here's a direct link to SingPost where you can look up your overseas shipping costs. Just plug in the appropriate country and weight. (http://beta.singpost.com/send-receive/send-overseas)

For a 5kg package to the US without tracking going economy without customs processing fees, insurance, delivery to your door, or residential delivery it is $80 for a delivery window of not LESS than 42 days. For SpeedPost Standard it is $116 base rate to get it into the US in 10-14 days. 2.5kg packages are the exact same because it's a 1-5kg standardized unit. Just like FedEx Ground and UPS Ground, SeaMail is the branding for "surface mail service." It does not guarantee that your package is going proverbial slow boat from China! It's like when I order a package from Amazon with "no rush" shipping - I usually see it in 2 days anyway because I'm close to a major distribution center.
I definitely would not view it as misleading or a negative. He managed to over-deliver on the shipping (faster, full tracking, insurance, etc.) despite a significantly higher cost normally.

TLDR version: SeaMail doesn't necessary mean that it'll get sent by sea/on a boat. Sometimes it gets sent by air.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: WhitePlate on Tue, 10 May 2016, 15:50:32
I ordered a full set of blank zinc caps.  I recieved 37 blank zinc caps.  If you recieved the full set in the wrong package please notify me. :(

Perhaps I could shed some light here. Many people refer to the MKC Zinc 37-key set (http://www.geekkeys.com/mkc-silver-blank-metal-zinc-37-keyset/) as a "full set". Even Massdrop marketed it that way until several users including myself complained that it was misleading.

I don't think they make modifier keys in zinc, hence I doubt a *full* 87 or 108-key zinc set exists (unless OP explicitly stated otherwise). Hope this helps.
Nope, I paid for a set of 87 keys.  Not 37.  Enough to cover a tkl board in ansi.  They were from a gb years ago and included mods and a spacebar.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Tue, 10 May 2016, 15:55:07
Updated sheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hdp5VngkejeTHM_U8G2JFJUCGYrsgH_-GX1EmXfHx5g/edit?usp=sharing

Provide me as much info as you can if you are connected to what has happened here! We already have cases of some double/triple sold.

I have also come across some questionable payment details (things not matching up). But I'm treading lightly on this matter. Stay tuned.

Will check back again later tonight.

It seems like a lot of work; but, what do you think you can do with the information, besides verifying double sold items? The OP asked people to pay using wire transfer and western union that are basically with no claim resources.

You're right - it is a lot of work to keep track. At the moment all I want to do is to piece the puzzle together. More information is better than no information, and consolidated information is better than scattered information. What makes it weird is that OP has clearly sent items out, instead of straight up scamming. At the end of the day, what people want is the stuff that they paid for. If everything was indeed sent out, we, as a community, can re-send stuff to each other. It's not ideal and proves to be a second logistics nightmare, but it's better than just leaving with no sense of direction.

What's more, some people paid with paypal, some by WU, some by moneygram, and some using a bank transfer. All of these require ID's for confirmation. Singapore takes stuff like this very seriously, regardless of whether the methods of payment have claim resources. If anything, collecting information now can help aid an investigation by local authorities if needed. I believe that action is better than inaction, and that an attempt to find out where our money/stuff is ending up is far better than just sitting back and accepting defeat.

Again, the issue of timing is still on the table - as rootwyrm as pointed out, there may be very legitimate parcels that have simply not reached their final destination. We don't know yet.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Moistgun on Tue, 10 May 2016, 15:59:59

Never thought that the sale will become something like this. It's my first time buying from someone @ geekhack too.


"the sale" is an inadequate descriptor for this event

It is probably the largest and most convoluted set of transactions in the history of the forum.

Exactly. Its almost the same as craigslist to a point. 
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 10 May 2016, 16:57:41
He explicitly told me sea mail, and quoted me rates for that.  The only reason I found out it was singpost was from the provided tracking number.  Did he say something different to you?  And it would be misleading no matter the method- in fact your argument makes it more misleading, not less.  My package was supposedly sent 2 weeks ago to the US.  There is no way that by any measure it should be here.  But it is.  And that lapse in time is no where near typical, so using that rather than singpost times would be folly.

Oh, no. Please, nobody think that he was lying or being misleading about the shipping method or costs. I can confirm for you that the 'SeaMail' part and the costs associated were completely truthful. Here's the thing though. SeaMail is a branded service that may use SingPost - it's like when your Amazon package gets delivered by your USPS mailman even though it went UPS and has a UPS tracking number.
And here's a direct link to SingPost where you can look up your overseas shipping costs. Just plug in the appropriate country and weight. (http://beta.singpost.com/send-receive/send-overseas)

For a 5kg package to the US without tracking going economy without customs processing fees, insurance, delivery to your door, or residential delivery it is $80 for a delivery window of not LESS than 42 days. For SpeedPost Standard it is $116 base rate to get it into the US in 10-14 days. 2.5kg packages are the exact same because it's a 1-5kg standardized unit. Just like FedEx Ground and UPS Ground, SeaMail is the branding for "surface mail service." It does not guarantee that your package is going proverbial slow boat from China! It's like when I order a package from Amazon with "no rush" shipping - I usually see it in 2 days anyway because I'm close to a major distribution center.
I definitely would not view it as misleading or a negative. He managed to over-deliver on the shipping (faster, full tracking, insurance, etc.) despite a significantly higher cost normally.

I never said that he was being untruthful.  Just the opposite.  I think my package is here... but I found out that by the spreadsheet it was apparently double sold, as I paid for the MD Granite - several sets, and apparently gtxorb thinks he bought all of them.  USPS doesn't automatically redeliver, so I didn't get my package yet.  But I purchased the following:

Quote
$14 numpad
$27 common kit x2
$25 text mods
$22 text pro mods
$14 specialty

Which would make his order impossible to fill.  I also paid via Paypal, so at least I have some recourse if there was a mix up.  But I guess I'll see tomorrow.

I've unlocked this post.  If you have people receiving the wrong item (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81871.msg2162957#msg2162957) or nothing at all yet, despite attempts to contact you, you are not "done".

The mod team can't do much here to help, but at the very least we can ensure that people have a place to post publicly regarding the sale.

I think that he meant that the sale was done, to keep from getting more PMs about it.  As he also edited the first post, I don't think that's a danger at this point, however.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 10 May 2016, 17:24:10
Just for reference on the double-selling comments, berserk has been known to purchase multiples of GB items and many other things (hence his massive collection and the scale of this sale), so it is entirely possible that he has legitimately sold multiple of the same item to each of you.  Just FYI - I'm not making conclusions about anything here, just commenting.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: romevi on Tue, 10 May 2016, 17:26:54
Just for reference on the double-selling comments, berserk has been known to purchase multiples of GB items and many other things (hence his massive collection and the scale of this sale), so it is entirely possible that he has legitimately sold multiple of the same item to each of you.  Just FYI - I'm not making conclusions about anything here, just commenting.

He sold me a Granite Num Pad a couple of months ago, but I know he had a few sets at least. He has mad pockets and seemingly a large space for keyboards, so it's no wonder his missus is making him downsize, hence this "group buy."
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: biocalves on Tue, 10 May 2016, 17:42:24
Just for reference on the double-selling comments, berserk has been known to purchase multiples of GB items and many other things (hence his massive collection and the scale of this sale), so it is entirely possible that he has legitimately sold multiple of the same item to each of you.  Just FYI - I'm not making conclusions about anything here, just commenting.

He sold me a Granite Num Pad a couple of months ago, but I know he had a few sets at least. He has mad pockets and seemingly a large space for keyboards, so it's no wonder his missus is making him downsize, hence this "group buy."

I've said before that I thought this would be interesting to watch, and I will reserve judgement until a package actually gets delivered to my door. With that said, I only spent a little over $100 so I'm a lot less nervous than some others who've sent him $400+.

I think a little communication never hurt anyone and the right thing to do is at least post here to let everyone know that he understands what is happening and is planning on doing something about it. It would probably ease a lot of tension and at least prepare people for what they might need to do in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 10 May 2016, 18:07:21
Just for reference on the double-selling comments, berserk has been known to purchase multiples of GB items and many other things (hence his massive collection and the scale of this sale), so it is entirely possible that he has legitimately sold multiple of the same item to each of you.  Just FYI - I'm not making conclusions about anything here, just commenting.

He sold me a Granite Num Pad a couple of months ago, but I know he had a few sets at least. He has mad pockets and seemingly a large space for keyboards, so it's no wonder his missus is making him downsize, hence this "group buy."

This is true.  I was going off the quantities he had in the Word document when I ordered, but he might have updated it before I bought, if the other order was done before that time.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: meiosis on Tue, 10 May 2016, 18:23:01
Hmm.. well I'm still hopeful as berserkfan has always been a nice guy and very knowledgable.

But just for thread purposes:
I ordered a handful (like 1x r5, 1x R4, 3xR3 + F/J) Scarface caps?

Did anyone order a overlap?
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 10 May 2016, 18:26:34
^ I don't think there's anything intentional going on- with something this large, and the stress of moving and a spouse on you, there's very likely to be issues.  And if it were me, I personally wouldn't be quick to jump in either.  If he answers one, then that opens the floodgates- waiting until people actually have their parcels seems like a reasonable wait, or you're going to be buried under inquiries that actually have no real merit or basis.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mind_funeral on Tue, 10 May 2016, 20:47:29
Just for reference on the double-selling comments, berserk has been known to purchase multiples of GB items and many other things (hence his massive collection and the scale of this sale), so it is entirely possible that he has legitimately sold multiple of the same item to each of you.  Just FYI - I'm not making conclusions about anything here, just commenting.

I doubt he had 2 Poker X's modded with jailhouse whites and SIP sockets though :/
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 10 May 2016, 21:47:16
Just for reference on the double-selling comments, berserk has been known to purchase multiples of GB items and many other things (hence his massive collection and the scale of this sale), so it is entirely possible that he has legitimately sold multiple of the same item to each of you.  Just FYI - I'm not making conclusions about anything here, just commenting.

I doubt he had 2 Poker X's modded with jailhouse whites and SIP sockets though :/

Some of the things I've seen that he's had multiple of have boggled the mind more than that.  Just wait a bit, and give him just as much benefit of the doubt as you had to in order to give him the money.  Trust until it's obvious that you can't (which is going to be up to you when that is).  That way, you reduce the stress to you, and don't contribute unnecessarily to the atmosphere here.  At least, that's what I'm doing.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mind_funeral on Tue, 10 May 2016, 23:55:44
I'm trying to stay positive.  I want berserk to come through.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: ideus on Wed, 11 May 2016, 07:27:29
The hope is high, the attitude is good; but, the evidence is against the odds; either, intentional or due to the circumstances, not receiving what was paid for is a bad balance for a business; but, no rush may help, because there is nothing to do even when the after math has reached us all.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: timerwin63 on Wed, 11 May 2016, 09:20:30
Are we still making a list of what's been ordered and what wasn't? My stuff is still sitting in US Customs (judging from the lack of USPS shipping info), but I ordered a WoB grab bag and 70 (maybe 75? I don't remember and I'm too lazy to check) MX Greens. No freebies or anything else. I doubt he ran out of either of those, but just in case people wanted to know.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Wed, 11 May 2016, 10:16:37
Are we still making a list of what's been ordered and what wasn't? My stuff is still sitting in US Customs (judging from the lack of USPS shipping info), but I ordered a WoB grab bag and 70 (maybe 75? I don't remember and I'm too lazy to check) MX Greens. No freebies or anything else. I doubt he ran out of either of those, but just in case people wanted to know.

Indeed I am keeping track.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hdp5VngkejeTHM_U8G2JFJUCGYrsgH_-GX1EmXfHx5g/edit?usp=sharing

I also will want to confirm as many claims as I can with either sale pm's or payment proof (black out your details.) 

This serves two purposes.

1. Prevents people from making claims when there weren't  any to begin with (low chance, but taking the precaution)
2. Solidifies your claims if, we as a community, will resend stuff to each other if shipping is a fustercluck.

Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: iss on Wed, 11 May 2016, 16:16:24
WEY HK-2000 black on white doubleshots by GMK $65 0.15 kg
F09. Model M-122 bolt modded, teensy modded, ANSI mod, backplate painted, red paint. $20 2.5 kg
P05. Cooler Master QFR TKL cover .1 kg

Received an incorrect package. The QFR cover was there, but both the WEY caps and the M-122 were not; I received an arbitrary, super-yellowed set of MX caps with a big-ass enter, something completely worthless to me.

Luckily, I paid through PayPal G&S, but this definitely does not look good. I think I'll be filing a dispute if berserkfan doesn't show up within the next few days.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: codywanks on Wed, 11 May 2016, 17:11:40
dafuq did I just read. did something get deleted?
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Almost on Wed, 11 May 2016, 17:12:27
Either in a PM, or on a post somewhere here; Berserkfan mentioned all (?) the packaging and posting is being done by family members.

I presume said family members aren't all keyboards enthusiasts and don't know exactly which item is which, he's also moving house so I bet he won't have time to check on GeekHack to see all this comotion.  :confused:

I'm still trusting this guy to deliver, even with some big mistakes along the way, but I didn't spend too much money on this like some people will have.

Oh and for Skysophrenic's doc, I ordered:


Proof:
More
(http://i.imgur.com/t8o390P.png)
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 11 May 2016, 17:46:14

said family members aren't all keyboards enthusiasts and don't know exactly which item is which,


As someone who has sold approximately 1K items on ebay, at least 1/3 international, I can state that packaging and shipping is tedious and nerve-wracking.

I can count my own shipping mistakes on one hand with fingers left over, but that took careful planning and constant diligence.

And even at my zenith, I was only shipping perhaps 80 packages per week. This endeavor is an order of magnitude more difficult.

Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: ideus on Wed, 11 May 2016, 17:53:47
WEY HK-2000 black on white doubleshots by GMK $65 0.15 kg
F09. Model M-122 bolt modded, teensy modded, ANSI mod, backplate painted, red paint. $20 2.5 kg
P05. Cooler Master QFR TKL cover .1 kg

Received an incorrect package. The QFR cover was there, but both the WEY caps and the M-122 were not; I received an arbitrary, super-yellowed set of MX caps with a big-ass enter, something completely worthless to me.

Luckily, I paid through PayPal G&S, but this definitely does not look good. I think I'll be filing a dispute if berserkfan doesn't show up within the next few days.

Lucky you that paid with PP and can file a dispute. I also wanted the WEY key caps; but, now I'd relieved that I did not bought it.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 11 May 2016, 18:19:27
The hope is high.

Hope is dead.

(http://i.imgur.com/JU6YcN7.png)

This is not my order.  *sigh*  But they were nice enough to include the GH name of the person that it was supposed to go to.  At least... I think so.  GH Gji?  But now I guess I open a PP dispute.  I would wait to hear from him to be nice, but looking at it realistically, there's no real way to make this right in short order, so I need to get the dispute process started.  But I feel bad doing so. :(
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: kekman on Wed, 11 May 2016, 18:28:01
The hope is high.

Hope is dead.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/JU6YcN7.png)


This is not my order.  *sigh*  But they were nice enough to include the GH name of the person that it was supposed to go to.  At least... I think so.  GH Gji?  But now I guess I open a PP dispute.  I would wait to hear from him to be nice, but looking at it realistically, there's no real way to make this right in short order, so I need to get the dispute process started.  But I feel bad doing so. :(

is there any way to somehow get my money back using moneygram if i get the wrong order? I would assume not but I can always hope.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 11 May 2016, 18:34:51
https://www.moneygram.com/wps/portal/moneygramonline/home/CustomerService/ComplaintProcedure/

https://www.moneygram.com/WCM/groups/webcontent/documents/content/pdf_explanation_of_rights.pdf

https://www.moneygram.com/wps/portal/moneygramonline/home/CustomerService/FAQs/

Quote
Can I put a stop payment on a Money Order I purchased?
No, you cannot request a stop payment on a MoneyGram Money Order. However, you can request a refund by completing a claim card. If your Money Order is cashed before the refund is processed you will receive a photocopy provided you include the $15.00 processing fee.

Link to claim card: https://www.moneygram.com/WCM/groups/mgicorp_content/documents/content/mgicorp_c_pdf_e.pdf.pdf

I don't know if this applies in this case.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: WNovizar on Wed, 11 May 2016, 19:52:48
At this point, I will wait for my package to arrive before accusing berserkfan anyharm
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 11 May 2016, 21:23:20
At this point, I will wait for my package to arrive before accusing berserkfan anyharm

I don't think anyone is accusing him of anything.  We're just reporting the facts as they happen.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: yzkoo on Wed, 11 May 2016, 21:47:44
My worst fears have come to fruition.

Ordered:
QFR Kit + Top Cover
90 Stock Clears
Tai Hao (Black)
Tai Hao (Purple White)
Cyan on White PBT Dye Subs
MJ1 TKL Kit
A few spare LED(s)
90 Dirty Old Browns

What i got:
Tai Hao (Black) with blue space bar (i ain't even mad)
2 PCBs of what seemed like a cherry mx-8100 with full switches (brown)

I am salty  :'(

Proof: http://imgur.com/a/v1C3m
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: WNovizar on Wed, 11 May 2016, 21:52:20
At this point, I will wait for my package to arrive before accusing berserkfan anyharm

I don't think anyone is accusing him of anything.  We're just reporting the facts as they happen.

And I don't think I am implying anyone is accusing him of anything. I just stated my stance regarding this matter.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 11 May 2016, 22:00:15
I received a response to my dispute on paypal.  It was less than good.  Trying to see if I should escalate and/or post response here.  There was no real offer of making things right in the post, which makes me less inclined towards niceness, no matter the reasoning behind it.  There was even a thinly veiled threat in the response.  I'm going to sleep on it, as any decision I made right now would be based on emotion, and that's never good.

I will continue to update, and if I decide to escalate, I'll then post the details here.

One detail I did decide to post is that he says his PP account is empty, which makes me wonder if I should escalate NOW, to be on the front lines of the disputes.  Decisions I really don't want to make, and think it's unfair that I should have to.  Any suggestions or comments would be helpful and appreciated.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 11 May 2016, 22:07:30
The hope is high.

Hope is dead.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/JU6YcN7.png)


This is not my order.  *sigh*  But they were nice enough to include the GH name of the person that it was supposed to go to.  At least... I think so.  GH Gji?  But now I guess I open a PP dispute.  I would wait to hear from him to be nice, but looking at it realistically, there's no real way to make this right in short order, so I need to get the dispute process started.  But I feel bad doing so. :(

this is almost like my order, except i didn't order 67g springs and there's should be a set of filco keycaps,2 sets of taihao keycaps and a DSA grabbags...
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 11 May 2016, 22:12:09
I've received another response in short order.  My last sentence in my prior response was "How are we going to correct the situation?"  A simple, direct, and very respectful question.

His response included no answer to that, just excuses and guilt trip attempts.  I'm becoming more incensed.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rootwyrm on Wed, 11 May 2016, 22:28:25
I've received another response in short order.  My last sentence in my prior response was "How are we going to correct the situation?"  A simple, direct, and very respectful question.

His response included no answer to that, just excuses and guilt trip attempts.  I'm becoming more incensed.

And I notice on his profile...

Quote
Local Time:    Wed, 11 May 2016, 22:13:23
Last Active:    Wed, 11 May 2016, 21:21:33

If this is an epic shipping **** up, well, it happened. It's not unfixable, just frustrating. But so far, I have to honestly say that if it was the wrong labels getting slapped on things, why hasn't anybody at all popped up to say "OH! Hey! That's my order!" Also someone should probably tell Deskthority (I know, I know) what's going on.
https://deskthority.net/for-sale-f55/phase-2-now-gutz-s-pre-moving-small-items-giveaway-sale-thread-t12888-60.html

By the way, we're up to 3 Orihalcon SDL-USB cables sold - shreebles at DT also paid for one.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 11 May 2016, 23:39:47
Something else... sketchy... to report.

Images have been removed from imgur.  I don't see a reason why that would have happened.

http://imgur.com/a/XnnIS

That one at least doesn't come up 404, though there is no image there, so they might just not have indexed it.  Others come up 404.

For example, the images of granite:

http://imgur.com/QasZ7WE  http://imgur.com/v8Hbw0F

Was anyone thorough enough to save images?  I didn't think of it since it's imgur.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Floody on Wed, 11 May 2016, 23:43:55
Something else... sketchy... to report.

Images have been removed from imgur.  I don't see a reason why that would have happened.

http://imgur.com/a/XnnIS

That one at least doesn't come up 404, though there is no image there, so they might just not have indexed it.  Others come up 404.

For example, the images of granite:

http://imgur.com/QasZ7WE  http://imgur.com/v8Hbw0F

Was anyone thorough enough to save images?  I didn't think of it since it's imgur.
I think you might be reading too much into it. They were poor quality timestamp pictures so he could prove that he owned the stuff. No reason to keep them.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 11 May 2016, 23:46:53
If it were that alone, I might be inclined to be more charitable in my interpretation.  Adding all factors together, especially the responses on Paypal, and I'm not so inclined.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: ikeadragon on Thu, 12 May 2016, 00:01:08
Yup it's kinda the amalgamation of factors of the deletion of imgur links, double/triple selling, insisting on nonPayPal, non-communication, partly correct orders?....I got the 2 freebies I requested, but nothing of what I've paid for (which is honestly odd af; so he bothered to put some correct stuff in but not the ones in the same order 'form' lol). Maybe someone can check with Gji if that's the order he had..?

Anyway, the imgur links were deleted after the first post was 'done'. I didn't think to save images, but then again, even if someone/we did, w h a t d o ?

@yzkoo, we were (at least) double sold the Cyan on White Dyesubs. Thanks again Sky for keeping track of the orders!
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 12 May 2016, 00:11:07
Yup it's kinda the amalgamation of factors of the deletion of imgur links, double/triple selling, insisting on nonPayPal, non-communication, partly correct orders?....I got the 2 freebies I requested, but nothing of what I've paid for (which is honestly odd af; so he bothered to put some correct stuff in but not the ones in the same order 'form' lol). Maybe someone can check with Gji if that's the order he had..?

Anyway, the imgur links were deleted after the first post was 'done'. I didn't think to save images, but then again, even if someone/we did, w h a t d o ?

@yzkoo, we were (at least) double sold the Cyan on White Dyesubs. Thanks again Sky for keeping track of the orders!

I tried, but I couldn't find the user.  I think I might be reading the card wrong.  I do see an Eiji that posted in the thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78531.msg2145055#msg2145055), and have sent him a message.  Will post an update when/if I receive a reply.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Thu, 12 May 2016, 00:19:59
As packages are coming in, Please please please timestamp those and post those up! I'll be updating the spreadsheet tomorrow. We're still missing a lot of stuff out there, notably... like... my entire $400 order :< My end-game goal as of now, is to simply get as much stuff to their original buyers as possible.

We've also only been seeing mainly keycaps. Where are the boards!? We've yet to see any of the "high value" items for the most part. It seems dis-proportionally tilted towards keycaps and springs.

Judging by the consensus of the thread, I'm sure that we can agree on the fact that, if not malicious, he was clearly negligent in the way this sale was handle. On top of which, beserkfan HAS indeed been active. Now, the way things are, I do not want to pursue with the authorities yet. Not without tying the ends of where all the supposed goods are, and where they should end up. I'd also like to be able to tie out what was spent, to what was ordered and received. Likely this will never happen, because of the double/triple sales - which will be clear evidence of fraud. I urge you to not go and try to resolve errors with paypal yet - because we do not have the complete picture. Furthermore, with incomplete evidence it will only increase the chances that paypal will not take our side. It is best to serve up this thread as anecdotal evidence along with more concrete examples, which is why I have been consolidating proof of orders, payment, payment methods, and packages that have been received.

How can you help?

1. Provide any pm's of beserkfan confirming your order and payment details.
2. Provide payment details (black out your details) but have it correspond to the amount that you have ordered.
3. Provide any timestamps of what you have received.
4. Point anybody else who may have bought from beserkfan to this thread. Other forums and people who have commented there may not be aware of the situation yet, or may have other things to report that can help us out.
5. Can mods see pm's? Maybe there might be people that bought but are not checking this thread. I know it's probably a daunting task but at the moment we are going to be nearing thousands of dollars which are unaccounted for. I also understand that it is violating the idea of privacy. But what is hidden behind walls in this case may very well shed more light on what has happened.

You can do this by pm'ing me or attaching them directly as a note in the spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hdp5VngkejeTHM_U8G2JFJUCGYrsgH_-GX1EmXfHx5g/edit?usp=sharing

Please check if I have missed out your names and orders - Also please check if you have provided as much proof as you possibly can of all stages of the transactions/sales. The more complete the picture, the better understanding we will have of the scale of fraud.

Final note: Lets keep things civil, keep things calm. Lets not accuse anyone of anything else just yet, and use this as a period of learning and understanding. No witchhunting as of yet.

Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: DannyHuynh on Thu, 12 May 2016, 02:41:46
If anyone has got a 108-key Filco SA Set, please let me know. I'm still reluctant to file the PayPal dispute  :-[
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: kekman on Thu, 12 May 2016, 02:48:28
I ordered F02 and F18, 1 of each.

What specifically were those? The original catalogue has been deleted so can't really go and look it up.
model f xt teensied and the ibm board with JP legends. thanks for doing all this.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Thu, 12 May 2016, 02:56:07
there's someone who PM'd me about he's getting a box that marked "HOLD FOR DYMLOSLOUIRE". great, i wanna know what is inside the package lol. i'm waiting for him to post the package here.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: ponnx on Thu, 12 May 2016, 03:29:19
there's someone who PM'd me about he's getting a box that marked "HOLD FOR DYMLOSLOUIRE". great, i wanna know what is inside the package lol. i'm waiting for him to post the package here.

If there is one for ponnx I would love to know too.  :eek:
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Kibort on Thu, 12 May 2016, 05:16:36
I don't want to jump to conclusions but every single order seems to be wrong? I have yet to see a correct order? A mistake can always occasionally happen, but in this case it is hard to believe there were made this many unintentional mistakes.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 12 May 2016, 05:32:26
It could be another couple of weeks before mine arrives, but if anyone else receives the Ducky thick PBT black on yellow set, please let me know!
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Kibort on Thu, 12 May 2016, 05:42:09
I also paid for that black on yellow ducky set  :(
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 12 May 2016, 05:44:45
I also paid for that black on yellow ducky set  :(

:eek:

:(

Let's hope he had more than one of them.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: frosty on Thu, 12 May 2016, 07:27:52
Gonna vouch for berserk here where I've been a regular customer of his, often buying things from him sent to me either through post or through local meetups. Nice guy and I believe what happened is: berserk had everyone's address and their names etc on a excel spreadsheet, but something somewhere went wrong and perhaps maybe some rows and columns went wonky. If things persist and he's not back on GH I'll try to contact him and relay information to the people who have bought things from him. Cheers.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: timerwin63 on Thu, 12 May 2016, 08:34:07
I also will want to confirm as many claims as I can with either sale pm's or payment proof (black out your details.) 

This serves two purposes.

1. Prevents people from making claims when there weren't  any to begin with (low chance, but taking the precaution)
2. Solidifies your claims if, we as a community, will resend stuff to each other if shipping is a fustercluck.

Edit: Forgot I asked him to toss in a couple 1u Cherry blanks if he had any lying around. I can get proof of that if you want me to.

2nd Edit: Removed the pictures. I'll send them in a pm when I'm at a computer and don't have to deal with using my phone.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 12 May 2016, 08:34:44

Never thought that the sale will become something like this. It's my first time buying from someone @ geekhack too.


"the sale" is an inadequate descriptor for this event

It is probably the largest and most convoluted set of transactions in the history of the forum.
Jcrouse's goodbye sale cleared about 30k USD. It was so big he had to open a second thread to handle things. I don't think there were any issues. Just floating that out there that there's been bigger sales with less issues.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 May 2016, 08:37:39
Gonna vouch for berserk here where I've been a regular customer of his, often buying things from him sent to me either through post or through local meetups. Nice guy and I believe what happened is: berserk had everyone's address and their names etc on a excel spreadsheet, but something somewhere went wrong and perhaps maybe some rows and columns went wonky. If things persist and he's not back on GH I'll try to contact him and relay information to the people who have bought things from him. Cheers.

Your comment would be the last light at the bottom of the tunnel, as days turn into weeks of receiving the wrong items or missing the main ones.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 12 May 2016, 09:20:05
Well here's my order.

Cyan on White thick PBT dyesubs $20
Taihao Black Set $8
Chinese made lasered mint green PBT keycaps, 1 set, new, $5.
Raindrop blue on white random grab bag, new, at least 20 keycaps. Free

$8 shipping fee

Total $41

Sent as paypal gift using credit card.

Looks like theres at least 3 of us buying that cyan pbt set. The only thing is that I sent the payment as a gift so I cannot dispute this correct? I sent it as a gift because, I wanted to take some burden off him since, he was losing a lot through the pp fees he said.

 :(

Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Thu, 12 May 2016, 09:32:09
Hey all, just chiming in since more people seem to be commenting.

If you HAVE bought something from him, please pm me some screenshots or quote some pm's so that we can have a record of the first step of the transaction.

While unlikely, the last thing I want is people who haven't ordered anything claiming that they did. I will update and start loading in more data for confirmed packages when I have time.

Also, I might have found the who was supposed to receive my package - holding on action however, until more things are accounted for. Thanks for co-op and patience folks!
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 12 May 2016, 10:22:28
So what is the end result of the collection of data?  Just asking.  We have to individually submit disputes from everything I've seen in the past, and from research.  If there is not the happy circumstance that things were just cross shipped, i.e. I have the shipment for another person, and we work it out between us.  No matter how well-intentioned any user initiated corrections are, there are still going to be issues with using this number of individuals, and anything we do outside of the systems that have been set in place for this reduce our chances for recourse through proper channels.

I looked at your spreadsheet as a reference, not as a system of recourse for those reasons, and many more besides.

Any thoughts on that point?
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: frosty on Thu, 12 May 2016, 10:27:07
Give berserkfan a few more days- moving houses can be very hectic. If anyone wants to make a fuss about it, just make sure you're aware of that the already sour mood we have in the thread will get worse.

My promise above still stands.

erratum;
@ideus: appreciated.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 12 May 2016, 12:17:03
Give berserkfan a few more days- moving houses can be very hectic. If anyone wants to make a fuss about it, just make sure you're aware of that the already sour mood we have in the thread will get worse.

My promise above still stands.

erratum;
@ideus: appreciated.

As I said, I would be more inclined if the answers to the inquiry was anything along, "Yes, mistakes were made, and I have the intent to make it good no matter what it costs.  Just give me a bit to settle things down."  It would be better if there was a distinct answer of "let's do X", but I can understand that perhaps time is needed.  But when there is no answer about making things right to a direct question, and that's the best that anyone has received (unless someone else has received a response and not posted), and there's a time frame on the resolution of said issues, that casts things in a different light.

And I did find out about why some received theirs in a timely manner, and others are still waiting.  Some outlets (paypal for instance) required him to upgrade shipping in order to use a trackable service.  That changed the profile for shipping for some packages, including mine.  In all honesty, in a perfect world, I'd have been more than willing to make up the difference.  But we aren't even engaging on that level.  It seems from the correspondence that I've had with him to be based in avoidance rather than resolution.  And that concerns me in a way that it wouldn't for a lesser amount.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: timerwin63 on Thu, 12 May 2016, 12:24:37
So apparently my package from Gutz got to my house today. I gotta say, I'm not about to point any fingers and start calling people things, but I am certainly disappointed. Instead of the WoB Cherry grab bag ($30) and 70 MX Greens ($35) I ordered: (imgur album with proof (http://imgur.com/a/xH0TR). $18 shipping, and $4 in PayPal fees for G&S), I got a very small box and a 104-key set (108? I think it has 4 blanks) of thin Tai Hao white on green caps. Even the slip of paper in the box (that had my username and what I ordered) was right... (Link to timestamp (http://imgur.com/a/5zfde))

I paid $87 for a single set of maybe $30 keycaps (that I can't even use because of the layouts I use). Judging from the thread he made in OT, he doesn't seem like he wants to make any of it right, although I'm sure he'll reconsider. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now and wait for an official response after his life calms down a bit.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: DannyHuynh on Thu, 12 May 2016, 12:59:12
So apparently my package from Gutz got to my house today. I gotta say, I'm not about to point any fingers and start calling people things, but I am certainly disappointed. Instead of the WoB Cherry grab bag ($30) and 70 MX Greens ($35) I ordered: (imgur album with proof (http://imgur.com/a/xH0TR). $18 shipping, and $4 in PayPal fees for G&S), I got a very small box and a 104-key set (108? I think it has 4 blanks) of thin Tai Hao white on green caps. Even the slip of paper in the box (that had my username and what I ordered) was right... (Link to timestamp (http://imgur.com/a/5zfde))

I paid $87 for a single set of maybe $30 keycaps (that I can't even use because of the layouts I use). Judging from the thread he made in OT, he doesn't seem like he wants to make any of it right, although I'm sure he'll reconsider. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now and wait for an official response after his life calms down a bit.

At least you know the worth. What I've got was freebies instead of what I paid for
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rootwyrm on Thu, 12 May 2016, 13:18:37
Package arrived just now. Immediately knew it was wrong - it barely was big enough to hold one keyboard. Definitely NOT two full size keyboards. Claimed on customs that it was keyboard parts for hobbyist, value $50, weight 1kg. (It should have been nearly 5kg too.)

Open it up, and I have cast metal keycaps immediately jumping out. A set of rubber feet. A bunch of loose LEDs (came out of the SIP sockets in transit.) Aaaaaaand a KBT Pure with SIP mod, blue aluminum frame, and MX Whites. All the LEDs are here though, I counted.

According to the label inside, this is "DT Scarpia"s order. Well, it's at least PART of Scarpia's order according to the spreadsheet. So Scarpia, I have your KBT Pure. FWIW it was well packed, no damage aside from the loose LEDs. (Quick edit, none of the LEDs are damaged at all.) Can someone please page Scarpia to the thread?

Edit: PM'd Scarpia after realizing, yeah, it should have been "GH Scarpia" probably. Will be taking photos momentarily. Seriously though, very well packaged, so I can't imagine any shipping damage.

Here's the imgur gallery! (https://imgur.com/a/GV8Vm)

Edit 2: Also opened a Paypal dispute for Item Significantly Not as Described so there's a paper trail. I would recommend folks who paid through Paypal do so upon receiving an incorrect package, and simply be polite about it. If you got somebody else's package, "whoops, I got somebody else's package. Can you please help locate mine?" Make sure you note whose package you got if there's a name inside. If you end up needing to do a chargeback with any transaction, not opening the dispute immediately can complicate things or even make it impossible. Just be polite about it and give him a chance to respond before escalating to Paypal.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: gtxorb on Thu, 12 May 2016, 13:58:58
So everything is wrong!!!!!!!
No hope at allllllllllll.

No one get a right box yet.

Anyone had his mobile?
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 12 May 2016, 15:03:54
Edit 2: Also opened a Paypal dispute for Item Significantly Not as Described so there's a paper trail. I would recommend folks who paid through Paypal do so upon receiving an incorrect package, and simply be polite about it. If you got somebody else's package, "whoops, I got somebody else's package. Can you please help locate mine?" Make sure you note whose package you got if there's a name inside. If you end up needing to do a chargeback with any transaction, not opening the dispute immediately can complicate things or even make it impossible. Just be polite about it and give him a chance to respond before escalating to Paypal.

Agreed, wholeheartedly.  That's the same conclusion that I came to after a bit, and that was the only way I was able to get him to respond.  PM's didn't work.  However, the response I got on mine when I asked that very question was that he didn't know who had it.  Which does make sense, but it's disheartening.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mind_funeral on Thu, 12 May 2016, 15:09:06
Edit 2: Also opened a Paypal dispute for Item Significantly Not as Described so there's a paper trail. I would recommend folks who paid through Paypal do so upon receiving an incorrect package, and simply be polite about it. If you got somebody else's package, "whoops, I got somebody else's package. Can you please help locate mine?" Make sure you note whose package you got if there's a name inside. If you end up needing to do a chargeback with any transaction, not opening the dispute immediately can complicate things or even make it impossible. Just be polite about it and give him a chance to respond before escalating to Paypal.

Agreed, wholeheartedly.  That's the same conclusion that I came to after a bit, and that was the only way I was able to get him to respond.  PM's didn't work.  However, the response I got on mine when I asked that very question was that he didn't know who had it.  Which does make sense, but it's disheartening.

So you have had contact with Berserk since this went bad?  It seems like he isn't completely rogue then?
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rootwyrm on Thu, 12 May 2016, 15:23:23
Edit 2: Also opened a Paypal dispute for Item Significantly Not as Described so there's a paper trail. I would recommend folks who paid through Paypal do so upon receiving an incorrect package, and simply be polite about it. If you got somebody else's package, "whoops, I got somebody else's package. Can you please help locate mine?" Make sure you note whose package you got if there's a name inside. If you end up needing to do a chargeback with any transaction, not opening the dispute immediately can complicate things or even make it impossible. Just be polite about it and give him a chance to respond before escalating to Paypal.

Agreed, wholeheartedly.  That's the same conclusion that I came to after a bit, and that was the only way I was able to get him to respond.  PM's didn't work.  However, the response I got on mine when I asked that very question was that he didn't know who had it.  Which does make sense, but it's disheartening.

Presuming everyone is telling him what they got that's incorrect, that should not be true for very long, which is actually a net plus in terms of a dispute. It shows both seller and buyer acting in good faith to resolve the issues. However, this also doesn't factor in any unethical folks who just decide they're going to keep someone else's stuff. I'm getting worried there's going to be a lot of that. :(
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Thu, 12 May 2016, 15:27:37
Packages coming in, stuff being opened, lots of things happening.

Keep posting your thoughts and packages, pictures are always great. I will be updating sheet in a bit.

In response to why I am gathering a sheet, it is because it will make it easier as a point of reference to find out where stuff is. It'll also be easier to seek out who's items belong to whom once they show up. Finally, it's for the the possibility of presenting overwhelming evidence to the appropriate channels for resolution, as the spreadsheet that keeps track of all the items is clearly far more transparent than beserkfan.

We found some boards, lets hope there are many more out there. As usual, please reach out to other forums and direct them here!
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 12 May 2016, 15:31:08
Edit 2: Also opened a Paypal dispute for Item Significantly Not as Described so there's a paper trail. I would recommend folks who paid through Paypal do so upon receiving an incorrect package, and simply be polite about it. If you got somebody else's package, "whoops, I got somebody else's package. Can you please help locate mine?" Make sure you note whose package you got if there's a name inside. If you end up needing to do a chargeback with any transaction, not opening the dispute immediately can complicate things or even make it impossible. Just be polite about it and give him a chance to respond before escalating to Paypal.

Agreed, wholeheartedly.  That's the same conclusion that I came to after a bit, and that was the only way I was able to get him to respond.  PM's didn't work.  However, the response I got on mine when I asked that very question was that he didn't know who had it.  Which does make sense, but it's disheartening.

So you have had contact with Berserk since this went bad?  It seems like he isn't completely rogue then?

After I received no responses from him, I opened a dispute, but I haven't escalated it.  That's been the only thing that got him to respond, because he has to, basically.  I have until 5/31 to escalate to paypal.

Edit 2: Also opened a Paypal dispute for Item Significantly Not as Described so there's a paper trail. I would recommend folks who paid through Paypal do so upon receiving an incorrect package, and simply be polite about it. If you got somebody else's package, "whoops, I got somebody else's package. Can you please help locate mine?" Make sure you note whose package you got if there's a name inside. If you end up needing to do a chargeback with any transaction, not opening the dispute immediately can complicate things or even make it impossible. Just be polite about it and give him a chance to respond before escalating to Paypal.

Agreed, wholeheartedly.  That's the same conclusion that I came to after a bit, and that was the only way I was able to get him to respond.  PM's didn't work.  However, the response I got on mine when I asked that very question was that he didn't know who had it.  Which does make sense, but it's disheartening.

Presuming everyone is telling him what they got that's incorrect, that should not be true for very long, which is actually a net plus in terms of a dispute. It shows both seller and buyer acting in good faith to resolve the issues. However, this also doesn't factor in any unethical folks who just decide they're going to keep someone else's stuff. I'm getting worried there's going to be a lot of that. :(

That's my concern.  If you paid $70, and got $500 worth of stuff, I'd hope that people would report that.  But holding everyone to your standards is a recipe for disappointment.  I'm hoping that mind_funeral's recent example paves the way.  But I find that I can't count on that, especially with my own potential losses not being insignificant.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Thu, 12 May 2016, 15:31:31
Edit 2: Also opened a Paypal dispute for Item Significantly Not as Described so there's a paper trail. I would recommend folks who paid through Paypal do so upon receiving an incorrect package, and simply be polite about it. If you got somebody else's package, "whoops, I got somebody else's package. Can you please help locate mine?" Make sure you note whose package you got if there's a name inside. If you end up needing to do a chargeback with any transaction, not opening the dispute immediately can complicate things or even make it impossible. Just be polite about it and give him a chance to respond before escalating to Paypal.

Agreed, wholeheartedly.  That's the same conclusion that I came to after a bit, and that was the only way I was able to get him to respond.  PM's didn't work.  However, the response I got on mine when I asked that very question was that he didn't know who had it.  Which does make sense, but it's disheartening.

Presuming everyone is telling him what they got that's incorrect, that should not be true for very long, which is actually a net plus in terms of a dispute. It shows both seller and buyer acting in good faith to resolve the issues. However, this also doesn't factor in any unethical folks who just decide they're going to keep someone else's stuff. I'm getting worried there's going to be a lot of that. :(

This is also a big part of why I want a public spreadsheet - dishonest folks will be dishonest, but hopefully with the majority willing to open the books on the table will encourage everyone else to do the same.

For the general: Anybody who is opening up a claim, be polite, be straightforward, and present screenshots of a confirmation pm from beserkfan, confirmation of any tracking, and confirmation of anything received. This will help show that you've gotten the wrong package/missing items, and should give you a huge advantage in filing a claim. Also - do not blast beserkfan via claims. Stay civil, and look for a resolution. Escalate only of you need to. Stay with the facts, and do not let emotions play a role in how you handle claims!

Good luck!
Title: DONE!
Post by: meiosis on Thu, 12 May 2016, 16:21:06
Package arrived just now. Immediately knew it was wrong - it barely was big enough to hold one keyboard. Definitely NOT two full size keyboards. Claimed on customs that it was keyboard parts for hobbyist, value $50, weight 1kg. (It should have been nearly 5kg too.)

Open it up, and I have cast metal keycaps immediately jumping out. A set of rubber feet. A bunch of loose LEDs (came out of the SIP sockets in transit.) Aaaaaaand a KBT Pure with SIP mod, blue aluminum frame, and MX Whites. All the LEDs are here though, I counted.

According to the label inside, this is "DT Scarpia"s order. Well, it's at least PART of Scarpia's order according to the spreadsheet. So Scarpia, I have your KBT Pure. FWIW it was well packed, no damage aside from the loose LEDs. (Quick edit, none of the LEDs are damaged at all.) Can someone please page Scarpia to the thread?

Edit: PM'd Scarpia after realizing, yeah, it should have been "GH Scarpia" probably. Will be taking photos momentarily. Seriously though, very well packaged, so I can't imagine any shipping damage.

Here's the imgur gallery! (https://imgur.com/a/GV8Vm)

Edit 2: Also opened a Paypal dispute for Item Significantly Not as Described so there's a paper trail. I would recommend folks who paid through Paypal do so upon receiving an incorrect package, and simply be polite about it. If you got somebody else's package, "whoops, I got somebody else's package. Can you please help locate mine?" Make sure you note whose package you got if there's a name inside. If you end up needing to do a chargeback with any transaction, not opening the dispute immediately can complicate things or even make it impossible. Just be polite about it and give him a chance to respond before escalating to Paypal.
Well that sinks my stomach those cast metal caps are the ones I ordered (scarface)

Those even have the nibs and I know that he only had one set.. If there is you would want I wouldn't mind paying you in addition.


Just want this buy over it feels like Ivan all over again :(
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 12 May 2016, 16:27:46
The sucky thing is something I want to re-iterate.  It looks perfectly reasonable for Rootwyrm to deal with Meiosis on that point.  However, it does reduce your ability to make a claim to Paypal, or other payment services.  The extent of this varies for each service.  What each individual does is up to their own conscience.  But I did want to make that perfectly clear as a fact in determining course.  Also, let us endeavor not to try to make that decision for people by peer pressure nor the opinions of the masses.  Each decision is up to the individual that is putting their own rights on the line.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Thu, 12 May 2016, 17:28:18
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hdp5VngkejeTHM_U8G2JFJUCGYrsgH_-GX1EmXfHx5g/edit?usp=sharing

Updated, pm's sent out for a few people who have been adding stuff but are missing a couple of details.

Feel free to contribute yourselves on the last page.

Open up disputes if you guys can - with enough tickets open it might flag him within paypal so that they can open up an investigation.


Another casual observation - there seems to be a lot of "colour" themed filco's that were ordered... Silver, purple, blue, etc. Each of them for $100. Could just be coincidence though. Lets just see what happens.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rootwyrm on Thu, 12 May 2016, 17:39:03
Package arrived just now. Immediately knew it was wrong - it barely was big enough to hold one keyboard. Definitely NOT two full size keyboards. Claimed on customs that it was keyboard parts for hobbyist, value $50, weight 1kg. (It should have been nearly 5kg too.)

Open it up, and I have cast metal keycaps immediately jumping out. A set of rubber feet. A bunch of loose LEDs (came out of the SIP sockets in transit.) Aaaaaaand a KBT Pure with SIP mod, blue aluminum frame, and MX Whites. All the LEDs are here though, I counted.

According to the label inside, this is "DT Scarpia"s order. Well, it's at least PART of Scarpia's order according to the spreadsheet. So Scarpia, I have your KBT Pure. FWIW it was well packed, no damage aside from the loose LEDs. (Quick edit, none of the LEDs are damaged at all.) Can someone please page Scarpia to the thread?

Edit: PM'd Scarpia after realizing, yeah, it should have been "GH Scarpia" probably. Will be taking photos momentarily. Seriously though, very well packaged, so I can't imagine any shipping damage.

Here's the imgur gallery! (https://imgur.com/a/GV8Vm)

Edit 2: Also opened a Paypal dispute for Item Significantly Not as Described so there's a paper trail. I would recommend folks who paid through Paypal do so upon receiving an incorrect package, and simply be polite about it. If you got somebody else's package, "whoops, I got somebody else's package. Can you please help locate mine?" Make sure you note whose package you got if there's a name inside. If you end up needing to do a chargeback with any transaction, not opening the dispute immediately can complicate things or even make it impossible. Just be polite about it and give him a chance to respond before escalating to Paypal.
Well that sinks my stomach those cast metal caps are the ones I ordered (scarface)

Those even have the nibs and I know that he only had one set.. If there is you would want I wouldn't mind paying you in addition.


Just want this buy over it feels like Ivan all over again :(

I just checked the bag, and sure enough. It says right on it (which I missed) "GH Meiosis" and it is in fact, his order. Packed in with Scarpia's order. Unfortunately, chuckdee is absolutely right - if you ship things on to others immediately, Paypal can screw up or outright deny your claim. They WANT to deny your claim because back charges can cost them BIG TIME. So here is what I am personally going to do, and you all can hold me to it:

Meiosis - I'm going to stash your caps safely here until I find out what Paypal wants done (or at least wants to hear.) If you need any photos for your own Paypal dispute, they're yours. I also PM'd you my email, my phone, and my address, and the reference for my own Paypal dispute so it can be cross-referenced. (But please do not call me at 3AM - work does that already!) Soon as it's cleared by Paypal, I'm going to UPS these direct to you and I'll take care of the shipping cost.
Pictures showing this is Meiosis' order are here: https://imgur.com/a/xcjgX - the contents on the label are the same as what is in it.

Scarpia I haven't heard back from yet - but this is only a small part of his order. No cable to be found in here, so it must be in another box entirely. I think the feet are to this board though, so at least there's that much. And thanks to all the images and inventories being deleted, I also could be wrong which board it is, too, and this is someone else's order entirely!

Believe me, I hate having to make anyone wait as much as I hate having to wait myself. But it's vitally important to preserve the evidence. If Paypal comes back to you and says "we want to see the label that says it's for someone else" and you can't show it, they can and will deny your claim. They have to have meticulous documentation to shoot down any chargebacks or any counter-claims by sellers. Make sure you have all your ducks in a row and either the correct items, your refund, or word from Paypal in writing, in the ticket, confirmed twice that they are OK with you sending an item on.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: shrubkeys on Thu, 12 May 2016, 22:33:19
To me, it's possible - but highly unlikely - that any fraud is going on here. I think (hope?) he's avoiding because he's stressed the hell out - both because of the actual screw-ups and because of the (justifiable) reception to them - and while that's not admirable behavior, it's relatable. We have a little time before our ability to file PayPal disputes expires. My vote is give it a few more days.

FWIW, tho...

ORDERED:
RECEIVED:
//edit: ...aaaaaaand rather than express remorse, he decided to double down (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82065.0). And seems to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how PayPal disputes work.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 13 May 2016, 06:53:37
Following this with some interest but wondering what would you all think he should react? Refund everyone? Ask for all of you to ship back to each other? Or is it easier to wait till the heat is off?
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: kekman on Fri, 13 May 2016, 07:11:31
Following this with some interest but wondering what would you all think he should react? Refund everyone? Ask for all of you to ship back to each other? Or is it easier to wait till the heat is off?

it would have been preferable to get the right items shipped out in the first place, but since it's too late for that, probably dispute incorrect items, and if possible, ship our items back to the rightful owner if shipping costs are justifiable. for those who paid by moneygram, they can try claiming their money back but I have small hope that we will actually receive our money back, in which case we can only hope people are nice enough to return the items we all ordered to each other.

it's honestly not worth paying shipping twice if my items arrive on somebody elses doorstep. they're very cheap boards which I only ordered out of interest and they cost quite a bit to ship so if I'm unfortunate enough, somebody else can enjoy a model f xt and ibm green alps board at my cost.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Fri, 13 May 2016, 07:22:56
Following this with some interest but wondering what would you all think he should react? Refund everyone? Ask for all of you to ship back to each other? Or is it easier to wait till the heat is off?
ship back to each other, if we all were honest enough. welll, consider this as a test, as a community?  :blank:

Following this with some interest but wondering what would you all think he should react? Refund everyone? Ask for all of you to ship back to each other? Or is it easier to wait till the heat is off?

it would have been preferable to get the right items shipped out in the first place, but since it's too late for that, probably dispute incorrect items, and if possible, ship our items back to the rightful owner if shipping costs are justifiable. for those who paid by moneygram, they can try claiming their money back but I have small hope that we will actually receive our money back, in which case we can only hope people are nice enough to return the items we all ordered to each other.

it's honestly not worth paying shipping twice if my items arrive on somebody elses doorstep. they're very cheap boards which I only ordered out of interest and they cost quite a bit to ship so if I'm unfortunate enough, somebody else can enjoy a model f xt and ibm green alps board at my cost.

i agree with you. but if i were the one to receive your board i still want to send it to your place using cheapest option possible, maybe..


anyway, Skysophrenic, i sent you a PM.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Venatorious on Fri, 13 May 2016, 08:19:41
Anyone who is concerned should probably check this out:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82065.0
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: timerwin63 on Fri, 13 May 2016, 08:48:31
Anyone who is concerned should probably check this out:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82065.0

What a joke. I get that not everything is super easy and this whole thing was a cluster****, but geez, own up and at least try to make things right. Here's to hoping I can at least get some of my money back.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: alh84001 on Fri, 13 May 2016, 09:01:50
Well, this is getting more and more interesting. I have two boxes coming my way, and I will list what I ordered and what I got when they arrive. That is, unless I spot some of the items I ordered shipped to other people. So far, none of them have showed up, which is either a very good or a very bad sign.

Waiting for boxes to come can sometimes be exciting, but in a perverted way this has that added thrill of gambling added to it. We'll see how bitter of a taste it leaves in my mouth.

BTW, anyone in Europe already received "their" packages?
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: need on Fri, 13 May 2016, 09:04:24
Is it right that someone can casually knock on his door?
I think we need some fear to get him back straight.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Venatorious on Fri, 13 May 2016, 09:06:19
Is it right that someone can casually knock on his door?
I think we need some fear to get him back straight.

Dude wtf  :eek:
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Fri, 13 May 2016, 09:15:48
Is it right that someone can casually knock on his door?
I think we need some fear to get him back straight.
nope, not that simple. don't forget that he's in the process into moving to a new place.
i do have his old address, but i doubt by the time we get into his house, he's still there.

Is it right that someone can casually knock on his door?
I think we need some fear to get him back straight.

Dude wtf  :eek:

lol
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mind_funeral on Fri, 13 May 2016, 09:48:07
Did anyone else NOT get any kind of tracking number?  I paid on April 20 and no tracking or confirmation of shipment.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Fri, 13 May 2016, 10:06:08
Quote
I have (been) compiling(ed) a semi-thorough list of pm's of you confirming orders, payment details and comparing it to what was received by users. I have done it from a very bottoms up approach, with limited resources of knowing who even bought stuff from you.

You who stood at the top, the control center, the financial hub of your sales and logistics operation, should have been able to manage everything better. What you have essentially done is walk into the room, and announce "hey guys, I'm an important guy who works way too hard so you guys should all feel sorry for me, and not be angry that I screwed you all over."

There is a very big difference between a mistake, and negligence. This is the latter. Get off your high horse and admit that you've basically done whatever the hell you wanted with stuff because you had no respect for anybody else's transactions. You set a mutual agreement between buyer (you) and seller (us) and simply not carry through. It is a lack of responsibility in carrying out the sale, and a lack of accountability in following through.

The problem here isn't the sale. The problem here is your attitude and approach to taking responsibility.

Claim what you guys can, even though he's set aside a budget for refunds, the way he's carried **** out makes me think he will not follow through properly anymore. Once or twice is a mistake. Mutliple accounts upon multiple accounts is simply a trend of negligence or incompetence. Are we already know he's competitent since he's done sales before.

I've gotten many more pm's over the night. Will update sheet this afternoon. Keep pm's coming in with orders and received! Also if you comment on the spreadsheet (rightclick and comment) I will make adjustments as needed. As usual, submit proof of confirmation or your order from beserkfan, and keep all confirmation of payments, shipping, tracking, boxes and timestamp items you get in the mail.

If beserkfan wont try to coordinate his **** and fix things, at least I can try by proving a platform to see who should reach out to who to ship things to their buyers. As far as I can tell, almost all of my items have been doublesold or not found at the moment, so at $400 sunk, the least I can do is make sure $400 spent is to get as much as I can get other people in the thread.

Note: Do not ship other user's items back if you are making a claim. Only do so after paypal/whatever payment method has cleared you to do so. And make sure it is in writing - if you call paypal CS, have them summarise everything in an email after your call.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: alh84001 on Fri, 13 May 2016, 10:14:12
I also forgot to mention that I got tracking numbers for both packages.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: gtxorb on Fri, 13 May 2016, 10:14:23
Is it right that someone can casually knock on his door?
I think we need some fear to get him back straight.

You forgot he is moving...
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Fri, 13 May 2016, 10:42:33
Did anyone else NOT get any kind of tracking number?  I paid on April 20 and no tracking or confirmation of shipment.
me.  :-X
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 13 May 2016, 10:44:05
Anyone who is concerned should probably check this out:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82065.0

What a joke. I get that not everything is super easy and this whole thing was a cluster****, but geez, own up and at least try to make things right. Here's to hoping I can at least get some of my money back.

How did you pay?
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 13 May 2016, 10:46:57
Did anyone else NOT get any kind of tracking number?  I paid on April 20 and no tracking or confirmation of shipment.
me.  :-X
I think, at least from what he told me, is that he had to upgrade some people for Paypal, and other reasons.  I don't think that by default the way that he shipped them had tracking.  So only those people he upgraded will get tracking.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: biocalves on Fri, 13 May 2016, 10:58:54
Did anyone else NOT get any kind of tracking number?  I paid on April 20 and no tracking or confirmation of shipment.
me.  :-X

When I was discussing buying from him he did give me an option for tracked and untracked shipping. I went for the untracked option as it was cheaper. Did he not discuss shipping options with some of you?

After reading OP's post in OT, I think it might be best to keep Sky's spreadsheet as up to date as possible and prepare to work it out between ourselves. If GB decides to rectify the issue that'd be great, but it's probably best to start prepping for the worst. There's nothing we can do about double sales, but if I am the one who ends up with the DSA grab bag for ex I'll just grab some keys I was looking for before shipping it off the next person. Not ideal, but at least we're all getting something out of it.

I went with the super cheap route so I don't have tracking, but will post what I get when I get it and provide proof of my order along with it then to keep things as clean as possible.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mind_funeral on Fri, 13 May 2016, 11:02:52
Did anyone else NOT get any kind of tracking number?  I paid on April 20 and no tracking or confirmation of shipment.
me.  :-X

When I was discussing buying from him he did give me an option for tracked and untracked shipping. I went for the untracked option as it was cheaper. Did he not discuss shipping options with some of you?

Nope.  Just paid the $9.80 for Seamail.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 13 May 2016, 11:17:58
Did anyone else NOT get any kind of tracking number?  I paid on April 20 and no tracking or confirmation of shipment.
me.  :-X

When I was discussing buying from him he did give me an option for tracked and untracked shipping. I went for the untracked option as it was cheaper. Did he not discuss shipping options with some of you?

Nope.  Just paid the $9.80 for Seamail.

Nope, just paid $8 for Seamail.  No discussion of tracking, so I was pleasantly surprised when my Paypal transaction had tracking.  The thing is, if he'd discussed with most, I think he wouldn't have had to take on the additional cost.  I thought $8 was low, but I just had caps, so didn't think about it.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Moistgun on Fri, 13 May 2016, 11:22:30
.

looks like he did make a statement in a different thread.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82065.0
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Fri, 13 May 2016, 11:28:12
Did anyone else NOT get any kind of tracking number?  I paid on April 20 and no tracking or confirmation of shipment.
me.  :-X

When I was discussing buying from him he did give me an option for tracked and untracked shipping. I went for the untracked option as it was cheaper. Did he not discuss shipping options with some of you?

After reading OP's post in OT, I think it might be best to keep Sky's spreadsheet as up to date as possible and prepare to work it out between ourselves. If GB decides to rectify the issue that'd be great, but it's probably best to start prepping for the worst. There's nothing we can do about double sales, but if I am the one who ends up with the DSA grab bag for ex I'll just grab some keys I was looking for before shipping it off the next person. Not ideal, but at least we're all getting something out of it.

I went with the super cheap route so I don't have tracking, but will post what I get when I get it and provide proof of my order along with it then to keep things as clean as possible.
nope. maybe it's because i just told him to use the cheapest shipping possible.
maybe i'll pm him sometimes in the weekend asking about the tracking number.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Karandach on Fri, 13 May 2016, 13:17:22
Hello all !

I'm one of the unfortunate people who have passed an order.
My order :
IBM model M13
IBM model F50
keycaps
for 195$

I have received :
(http://reho.st/thumb/self/e2be567b8f82128c48365d8ffab1493530ce5be7.jpg) (http://reho.st/view/self/e2be567b8f82128c48365d8ffab1493530ce5be7.jpg)
I'm available to people who have ordered these keycaps.

Please if you have received my package (Or package for Karandach) please contact me! I would pay shipping.

Self-help is very important, we need to ship packages to the right people.

EDIT : PM sent
This is 195$ and not 295$


Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Fri, 13 May 2016, 13:39:03
Hello all !

I'm one of the unfortunate people who have passed an order.
My order :
IBM model M13
IBM model F50
keycaps
for 295$

I have received :
(http://reho.st/thumb/self/e2be567b8f82128c48365d8ffab1493530ce5be7.jpg) (http://reho.st/view/self/e2be567b8f82128c48365d8ffab1493530ce5be7.jpg)
I'm available to people who have ordered these keycaps.

Please if you have received my package (Or package for Karandach) please contact me! I would pay shipping.

Self-help is very important, we need to ship packages to the right people.

I don't believe I have you in the spreadsheet, can I ask you to update in one the tabs (See edits/comments tab.) Or alternatively, pm me your some of your pm's with beserkfan (him confirming your order) and other details so that there is a record of things. I don't want to sound skeptical but I just want to prevent people from claiming more than they ordered.

Likewise, I will be taking all pm's and proof of items received and attaching links to the spreadsheet to have a transparent system of proof. I haven't done so yet, and so at the moment it is unfair that I currently hold the position of power in terms of information available. Once updated, I'll post again. Will be updating spreadsheet with more pm's that have been coming in.

ONCE AGAIN, DO NOT SHIP TO OTHER USERS JUST YET - make your claim with paypal/whoever it is you paid with. Some of us WILL be burned/screwed. But for those of you guys who can, make the claims. By all means, REACH OUT TO YOUR CORRESPONDING USER(s) so they know where the item is, but do not ship until the claims have been processed/given the go-ahead to ship by paypal/whoever it is.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Karandach on Fri, 13 May 2016, 13:53:13
No problems, I have all the screenshots and the necessary pictures.

Just register on GH, I am present on DT and on the French forums.

I am well aware that we must send nothing. I just wanted to share my good will for cooperation between members of the comunity.

Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: need on Fri, 13 May 2016, 14:36:24
Is it right that someone can casually knock on his door?
I think we need some fear to get him back straight.

Dude wtf  :eek:
What's so surprising to you?
The best and straightest way to get things straight is to communicate face to face.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 13 May 2016, 14:40:43
Is it right that someone can casually knock on his door?
I think we need some fear to get him back straight.

Dude wtf  :eek:
What's so surprising to you?
The best and straightest way to get things straight is to communicate face to face.

Because you just don't do that.  You don't show up at someone's residence uninvited, no matter what else is going on.  Especially if something negative is going on.  People have died because the decision to do just that was raised.

And this quote "I think we need some fear to get him back straight," shows just how bad that idea is.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: need on Fri, 13 May 2016, 14:41:19
Is it right that someone can casually knock on his door?
I think we need some fear to get him back straight.
nope, not that simple. don't forget that he's in the process into moving to a new place.
i do have his old address, but i doubt by the time we get into his house, he's still there.

MOD EDIT:  Do not make personal threats
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: mind_funeral on Fri, 13 May 2016, 14:45:04
Is it right that someone can casually knock on his door?
I think we need some fear to get him back straight.

Dude wtf  :eek:
What's so surprising to you?
The best and straightest way to get things straight is to communicate face to face.

Because you just don't do that.  You don't show up at someone's residence uninvited, no matter what else is going on.  Especially if something negative is going on.  People have died because the decision to do just that was raised.

And this quote "I think we need some fear to get him back straight," shows just how bad that idea is.

Oh, so naive.  Theft is so much more admiral than showing up at someone's door...
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Waateva on Fri, 13 May 2016, 14:45:33
...go up front and see if he's still a man.

This is something you hear about on the news that someone says before they get their ass kicked or get shot.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: need on Fri, 13 May 2016, 15:18:02
Sorry, I don't mean that dramatic.

To this point he's still blaming everyone but himself, that's just mind bending to just even to think about.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 13 May 2016, 15:21:24
Sorry, I don't mean that dramatic.

To this point he's still blaming everyone but himself, that's just mind bending to just even to think about.

Advocating showing up at the guy's house to use "fear to get him back straight" and to "see if he's still a man" only gives him more excuses not to right the wrongs. Please take that elsewhere so that the folks in this thread trying to come to a constructive conclusion can get on with it.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: need on Fri, 13 May 2016, 15:21:51
Is it right that someone can casually knock on his door?
I think we need some fear to get him back straight.

Dude wtf  :eek:
What's so surprising to you?
The best and straightest way to get things straight is to communicate face to face.

Because you just don't do that.  You don't show up at someone's residence uninvited, no matter what else is going on.  Especially if something negative is going on.  People have died because the decision to do just that was raised.

And this quote "I think we need some fear to get him back straight," shows just how bad that idea is.

Oh, so naive.  Theft is so much more admiral than showing up at someone's door...
That's not naive, it's just the most basic and honest communication method. Nothing to cover.

What's more affections than having a real conversation? He's hiding / dodging behind the computer now, which is making the problem worst.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 13 May 2016, 15:27:51
Is it right that someone can casually knock on his door?
I think we need some fear to get him back straight.

Dude wtf  :eek:
What's so surprising to you?
The best and straightest way to get things straight is to communicate face to face.

Because you just don't do that.  You don't show up at someone's residence uninvited, no matter what else is going on.  Especially if something negative is going on.  People have died because the decision to do just that was raised.

And this quote "I think we need some fear to get him back straight," shows just how bad that idea is.

Oh, so naive.  Theft is so much more admiral than showing up at someone's door...

Not saying that theft is more admirable, and I think the response that I'll just show up is the more naive approach.  I can tell you if someone I didn't know showed up at my domicile (and no matter how well you think you know someone from communicating on an internet forum, you really don't know them), they'd either, depending on the relative aggressiveness and my mood at the time end up facing the police if they won't leave, facing my dog if they get in the face persistent, or facing a weapon, improvised, muscle bound, or real.  And it also is based on where you are as to whether or not you have a leg to stand on once that happens.  Once they ask you to leave and you don't, you're trespassing.  And there's legal ramifications why they just don't want to have conversations like that. 

No matter what the other side does, escalating is a good way for waateva's statement to become truth, i.e.

...go up front and see if he's still a man.

This is something you hear about on the news that someone says before they get their ass kicked or get shot.

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/security/10-things-to-do-when-a-stranger-knocks-on-your-door/

With home invasions being a thing, and people not necessarily reacting how you think they should, I would think about that.  But in the end, that's everyone's choice to make- for better or worse.  And deal with the possible consequences.

Sorry, I don't mean that dramatic.

To this point he's still blaming everyone but himself, that's just mind bending to just even to think about.

Advocating showing up at the guy's house to use "fear to get him back straight" and to "see if he's still a man" only gives him more excuses not to right the wrongs. Please take that elsewhere so that the folks in this thread trying to come to a constructive conclusion can get on with it.

And I'll end by quoting that for truth!
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: need on Fri, 13 May 2016, 15:28:51
Sorry, I don't mean that dramatic.

To this point he's still blaming everyone but himself, that's just mind bending to just even to think about.

Advocating showing up at the guy's house to use "fear to get him back straight" and to "see if he's still a man" only gives him more excuses not to right the wrongs. Please take that elsewhere so that the folks in this thread trying to come to a constructive conclusion can get on with it.
It's harder to make excuses in real life situations than being on here.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 13 May 2016, 15:30:54
Sorry, I don't mean that dramatic.

To this point he's still blaming everyone but himself, that's just mind bending to just even to think about.

Advocating showing up at the guy's house to use "fear to get him back straight" and to "see if he's still a man" only gives him more excuses not to right the wrongs. Please take that elsewhere so that the folks in this thread trying to come to a constructive conclusion can get on with it.
It's harder to make excuses in real life situations than being on here.

Back someone in the corner, and I don't know if you can help but share blame for the consequences.  In person, physical persons are at risk of being one of those consequences.  Money isn't worth that to me.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Skysophrenic on Fri, 13 May 2016, 16:05:28
Please do not actually go and knock on some one's door... There are appropriate, legal and quite frankly less barbaric ways of solving problems. All sorts of other issues occur, many of which could affect innocent people such as family or neighbors. Do not do that.

Stay patient and I promise things will work out sooner or later. I'm quite frankly disgusted by the suggestion to begin with. Be the better person. Your money isn't worth trading for legal issues/freedoms - this applies to everything really.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 13 May 2016, 16:36:41
Hi folks. In this community we trust each other with money and time and a decent amount of personal information. Threatening to show up at people's doors is how you wreck that trust. Let's just not even go there.

I'm not up to speed on the specifics of this situation, but regardless, hassling someone in real life is a bad idea. Don't do it and don't advocate for it.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: demik on Fri, 13 May 2016, 17:10:26
Is it right that someone can casually knock on his door?
I think we need some fear to get him back straight.

maybe you should go?
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 13 May 2016, 17:26:43

I'm not up to speed on the specifics of this situation,


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory)
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: shrubkeys on Fri, 13 May 2016, 18:21:53
I'm not up to speed on the specifics of this situation

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cluster****
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: phosphoric on Fri, 13 May 2016, 21:24:10
I'm not up to speed on the specifics of this situation

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cluster****
I'm laughing
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 13 May 2016, 22:19:42
I'm not up to speed on the specifics of this situation

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cluster****

I dunno, I would have linked to this:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-novWvm6X8EA/TqbK_dO9BlI/AAAAAAAAkTc/qhvtb_MNve8/s1600/cluster****.jpg)
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: frosty on Fri, 13 May 2016, 22:22:50
Hi folks. In this community we trust each other with money and time and a decent amount of personal information. Threatening to show up at people's doors is how you wreck that trust. Let's just not even go there.

I'm not up to speed on the specifics of this situation, but regardless, hassling someone in real life is a bad idea. Don't do it and don't advocate for it.

amen
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: nugglets on Sat, 14 May 2016, 04:14:43
So my package arrived today, and was at least correct for the "big" item.

Ordered vortex white backlit doubleshots, 100 each of cyan, aquamarine and purple LEDs, 200 SIP sockets and a set of cherry stabs.

Got this: http://imgur.com/a/rL8n0

Correct caps, but 100x Green LEDs and nothing else.

Now, I know my order was nothing really so I'm not posting to complain. Just doing so for documentation's sake.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: DannyHuynh on Sat, 14 May 2016, 04:50:00
Hello all !

I'm one of the unfortunate people who have passed an order.
My order :
IBM model M13
IBM model F50
keycaps
for 195$

I have received :
(http://reho.st/thumb/self/e2be567b8f82128c48365d8ffab1493530ce5be7.jpg) (http://reho.st/view/self/e2be567b8f82128c48365d8ffab1493530ce5be7.jpg)
I'm available to people who have ordered these keycaps.

Please if you have received my package (Or package for Karandach) please contact me! I would pay shipping.

Self-help is very important, we need to ship packages to the right people.

EDIT : PM sent
This is 195$ and not 295$

Hi, did you receive a set of filco SA keycaps with some extra ISO keys? If that is so, I believe it is my order

Here is my proof
http://imgur.com/a/yrcWY

Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Karandach on Sat, 14 May 2016, 05:46:53
Hello all !

I'm one of the unfortunate people who have passed an order.
My order :
IBM model M13
IBM model F50
keycaps
for 195$

I have received :
(http://reho.st/thumb/self/e2be567b8f82128c48365d8ffab1493530ce5be7.jpg) (http://reho.st/view/self/e2be567b8f82128c48365d8ffab1493530ce5be7.jpg)
I'm available to people who have ordered these keycaps.

Please if you have received my package (Or package for Karandach) please contact me! I would pay shipping.

Self-help is very important, we need to ship packages to the right people.

EDIT : PM sent
This is 195$ and not 295$

Hi, did you receive a set of filco SA keycaps with some extra ISO keys? If that is so, I believe it is my order

Here is my proof
http://imgur.com/a/yrcWY

Hey !

I don't know. This is what I received :

bag 1 : "Filco SA super ANSI-ISO not sure about JIS part GH Almost in UK + mandarin annotations"
bag 2 : "Full set SA from Oia(u?)tec for Filco us ANSI 104 clean but unwashed" / "on Bluetooth Filco fullsize or in here"

(http://reho.st/thumb/self/6dbc1ecea44f7309b3f1dedc53ccb28959bfe72e.jpg) (http://reho.st/view/self/6dbc1ecea44f7309b3f1dedc53ccb28959bfe72e.jpg)

If this is your order, you are lucky ! :)

I hope everyone will be honest.

Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Kibort on Sat, 14 May 2016, 11:21:24
i paid for those SA keycaps aswel  :'(
http://imgur.com/a/JcWz6 (http://imgur.com/a/JcWz6)
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rootwyrm on Sat, 14 May 2016, 11:27:29
I hope everyone will be honest.

Unfortunately, I think at this point, it is safe to say that is very much not the case. I think it's fair to say that the keyboards shipped, since I certainly have Scarpia's right here. And this is NOT a cheap or unwanted 60% board. So we can reasonably assume all of the actual keyboards went out. And we can assume a significant number of people, if not a majority, have in fact received their packages at this point.

Yet somehow not a single person has said "hey, X, I have your keyboard" aside from myself and yzkoo who reported getting a complete MX8100. Everyone else has only reported cheap keycaps. It would seem to me that a not insignificant part of the 'community' is more than happy to steal things other people paid for.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: biocalves on Sat, 14 May 2016, 11:46:01
So my package arrived today, and was at least correct for the "big" item.

Ordered vortex white backlit doubleshots, 100 each of cyan, aquamarine and purple LEDs, 200 SIP sockets and a set of cherry stabs.

Got this: http://imgur.com/a/rL8n0

Correct caps, but 100x Green LEDs and nothing else.

Now, I know my order was nothing really so I'm not posting to complain. Just doing so for documentation's sake.

I assumed you paid the cheap shipping with no tracking? Considering I'm in SoCal as well, hopefully I'll get my mystery box within the next couple of days.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 14 May 2016, 11:48:30
I hope everyone will be honest.

Unfortunately, I think at this point, it is safe to say that is very much not the case. I think it's fair to say that the keyboards shipped, since I certainly have Scarpia's right here. And this is NOT a cheap or unwanted 60% board. So we can reasonably assume all of the actual keyboards went out. And we can assume a significant number of people, if not a majority, have in fact received their packages at this point.

Yet somehow not a single person has said "hey, X, I have your keyboard" aside from myself and yzkoo who reported getting a complete MX8100. Everyone else has only reported cheap keycaps. It would seem to me that a not insignificant part of the 'community' is more than happy to steal things other people paid for.

I wouldn't assume that just yet.  The heavier orders that shipped and were paid for in a way that was not paypal, I'm sure he didn't upgrade.  So those wouldn't even start to hit for a couple more weeks.  Let's wait until at least a month out to start that kind of thinking- if at all.

This kind of thing affects the solidarity of a community in a very deep way- for good or ill, so I urge caution in using accusatory speak.  In the end, even if someone doesn't speak up, let's keep the blame firmly where it belongs.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Tyr on Sat, 14 May 2016, 11:55:24
And we can assume a significant number of people, if not a majority, have in fact received their packages at this point.

Not at all. My box for example is still en route. I think this one is actually on a boat, so I don't expect it for a couple of more weeks, even though it was sent late last month.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rootwyrm on Sat, 14 May 2016, 12:44:45
I wouldn't assume that just yet.  The heavier orders that shipped and were paid for in a way that was not paypal, I'm sure he didn't upgrade.  So those wouldn't even start to hit for a couple more weeks.  Let's wait until at least a month out to start that kind of thinking- if at all.

This kind of thing affects the solidarity of a community in a very deep way- for good or ill, so I urge caution in using accusatory speak.  In the end, even if someone doesn't speak up, let's keep the blame firmly where it belongs.

Certainly I would agree there with the larger packages, to a limited extent. We won't know till we know. But it seems rather incomprehensible to me that when we have 2.5kg flat rate packages shipped on May 3rd already arrived in Ohio, SoCal, and so on, we've only seen two keyboards. I wouldn't expect any of the M's or F's to be arrived yet (hell, they take forever even when shipped CONUS), but certainly a lot of the lighter boards (e.g. TKLs, 60%s), kits, and parts should have arrived by now.

Instead, so far the most expensive item reported is what I think is the KBT Pure but may be the PokerX (seriously people, someone check me on which it is) and the zinc keycaps. It could simply be people aren't aware of this thread and are only reporting via Paypal. But so far we have 129 items on the spreadsheet as ordered (definitely low), and only 17 items reported received plus 2 not in the spreadsheet.
I agree completely - it's very damaging to the community as a whole. But it's very hard not to believe that folks are taking advantage, given that data. Doubly so when they have a reasonable belief that they will not get any sort of refund. As has been said: people are not a box of chocolates. They are mostly bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling. (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/42/1e/80/421e80dd2af1ed97887c87ef7ab7cd6b.jpg)
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 14 May 2016, 12:49:58
I wouldn't assume that just yet.  The heavier orders that shipped and were paid for in a way that was not paypal, I'm sure he didn't upgrade.  So those wouldn't even start to hit for a couple more weeks.  Let's wait until at least a month out to start that kind of thinking- if at all.

This kind of thing affects the solidarity of a community in a very deep way- for good or ill, so I urge caution in using accusatory speak.  In the end, even if someone doesn't speak up, let's keep the blame firmly where it belongs.

Certainly I would agree there with the larger packages, to a limited extent. We won't know till we know. But it seems rather incomprehensible to me that when we have 2.5kg flat rate packages shipped on May 3rd already arrived in Ohio, SoCal, and so on, we've only seen two keyboards. I wouldn't expect any of the M's or F's to be arrived yet (hell, they take forever even when shipped CONUS), but certainly a lot of the lighter boards (e.g. TKLs, 60%s), kits, and parts should have arrived by now.

Instead, so far the most expensive item reported is what I think is the KBT Pure but may be the PokerX (seriously people, someone check me on which it is) and the zinc keycaps. It could simply be people aren't aware of this thread and are only reporting via Paypal. But so far we have 129 items on the spreadsheet as ordered (definitely low), and only 17 items reported received plus 2 not in the spreadsheet.
I agree completely - it's very damaging to the community as a whole. But it's very hard not to believe that folks are taking advantage, given that data. Doubly so when they have a reasonable belief that they will not get any sort of refund. As has been said: people are not a box of chocolates. They are mostly bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling. (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/42/1e/80/421e80dd2af1ed97887c87ef7ab7cd6b.jpg)

And how did they pay?  I'm sure he didn't upgrade any that he didn't have to.  So look at the transit times (http://www.singpost.com/send-documentparcel/transit-time.html).  3-5 weeks minimum.

Again, keep the heat on him, not on other victims.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Tyr on Sat, 14 May 2016, 12:52:41
I agree completely - it's very damaging to the community as a whole. But it's very hard not to believe that folks are taking advantage, given that data. Doubly so when they have a reasonable belief that they will not get any sort of refund. As has been said: people are not a box of chocolates. They are mostly bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling. (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/42/1e/80/421e80dd2af1ed97887c87ef7ab7cd6b.jpg)

In dutch we have a saying "Zoals de waard is, vertrouwt hij zijn gasten" - "The innkeeper trusts his guest as much as he would trust himself."
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rootwyrm on Sat, 14 May 2016, 13:20:58
I agree completely - it's very damaging to the community as a whole. But it's very hard not to believe that folks are taking advantage, given that data. Doubly so when they have a reasonable belief that they will not get any sort of refund. As has been said: people are not a box of chocolates. They are mostly bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling. (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/42/1e/80/421e80dd2af1ed97887c87ef7ab7cd6b.jpg)

In dutch we have a saying "Zoals de waard is, vertrouwt hij zijn gasten" - "The innkeeper trusts his guest as much as he would trust himself."

QFE. But alas; it is not at all untrue that these days people overwhelmingly have an attitude of "I got mine, so screw you" and general entitlement. (Do not even ask how much borderline software piracy I see on a daily basis.) I know full well that I am very much in the minority when it comes to ethics and morals. I'm more than willing to give folks the benefit of the doubt - and certainly folks in Europe are unlikely to have anything - but I also have to work from the available data.

But as I said - it could just be people aren't reporting that they got the wrong item except on Paypal. The bits I am privy to behind the scenes are not particularly promising.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: WNovizar on Sat, 14 May 2016, 15:22:41
I think you should keep your accusation to berserkfan, and not to US victims. I have about 10kg worth of keyboard on the way to me. Waiting to be delivered.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: DannyHuynh on Sat, 14 May 2016, 15:37:54
Show Image
Hello all !

I'm one of the unfortunate people who have passed an order.
My order :
IBM model M13
IBM model F50
keycaps
for 195$

I have received :
(http://reho.st/thumb/self/e2be567b8f82128c48365d8ffab1493530ce5be7.jpg) (http://reho.st/view/self/e2be567b8f82128c48365d8ffab1493530ce5be7.jpg)

I'm available to people who have ordered these keycaps.

Please if you have received my package (Or package for Karandach) please contact me! I would pay shipping.

Self-help is very important, we need to ship packages to the right people.

EDIT : PM sent
This is 195$ and not 295$

Hi, did you receive a set of filco SA keycaps with some extra ISO keys? If that is so, I believe it is my order

Here is my proof
http://imgur.com/a/yrcWY

Hey !

I don't know. This is what I received :

bag 1 : "Filco SA super ANSI-ISO not sure about JIS part GH Almost in UK + mandarin annotations"
bag 2 : "Full set SA from Oia(u?)tec for Filco us ANSI 104 clean but unwashed" / "on Bluetooth Filco fullsize or in here"

(http://reho.st/thumb/self/6dbc1ecea44f7309b3f1dedc53ccb28959bfe72e.jpg) (http://reho.st/view/self/6dbc1ecea44f7309b3f1dedc53ccb28959bfe72e.jpg)

If this is your order, you are lucky ! :)

I hope everyone will be honest.



i paid for those SA keycaps aswel  :'(
http://imgur.com/a/JcWz6 (http://imgur.com/a/JcWz6)

If there are two Full size set, then I believe one of them is Kibort's and one is mine. And according to the PM, the bag that says Bluetooth should be his and ISO should be mine, can you check one more time? I'll send you a PM with ZIP for shipping quote
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: rootwyrm on Sat, 14 May 2016, 15:50:45
I think you should keep your accusation to berserkfan, and not to US victims. I have about 10kg worth of keyboard on the way to me. Waiting to be delivered.

So here is the PM I got from beserkfan the other day. This, in addition to his public statements that he does not intend to refund everyone - especially people who got more than they paid for (based on his now deleted valuations) - is why I am particularly concerned.
Also, I already gave Scarpia a heads up on this earlier this week. I still haven't heard anything from him.

Quote
Hi

You said you got Scarpia's stuff, but that can't be because Scarpia had two huge boxes going to him via sea mail and he paid for only one big box.

What did you get?

if it is light enough to ship/ just a partial order, I suggest you can ship it to my US proxy shipper after which I'll give you a full refund. If you file complaint you'll have to ship back to Singapore as per paypal rules which costs more, whereas I don't feel like funding the shipping to Sweden because Scarpia already seems to be getting too much.

Emphasis is entirely mine of course. Basically his attitude and response at this point is that if you got more than you paid for in his estimation, tough luck, you're not getting a refund. If you ship something back, he's going to demand you eat the cost, and almost definitely won't ship it to the person who paid for it I've already told him that I don't consider this at all acceptable - that makes me an accessory to fraud if I ship him back a keyboard and he doesn't refund the person who was supposed to get it.

We also already have accusations that some people are trying to resell stuff (and MAY have filed a Paypal claim too.) Whether that's true or not, I don't know. But for some folks who got stuff they didn't order and already know or believe they'll never get the stuff they ordered, it's not illogical. This is so far beyond a flustercuck at this point, it's not even funny.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Karandach on Sat, 14 May 2016, 16:01:29
If there are two Full size set, then I believe one of them is Kibort's and one is mine. And according to the PM, the bag that says Bluetooth should be his and ISO should be mine, can you check one more time? I'll send you a PM with ZIP for shipping quote
No problems I send you photos of the keys tomorrow !

However no shipping before the end of the Paypal dispute.
Berserkfan didn't yet replied. If no answer I transmits to Paypal as complaint next week.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 14 May 2016, 16:01:33
Where did you see these accusations?   And where is the proof? Emotions are high,  which is why we should deal in facts alone,  and what can be proven not to dilute the blame - which should all be directed to berserkfan alone.   No matter what others do, it wouldn't have been possible if this whole thing had been dealt with better.

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Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: DannyHuynh on Sat, 14 May 2016, 16:05:30
If there are two Full size set, then I believe one of them is Kibort's and one is mine. And according to the PM, the bag that says Bluetooth should be his and ISO should be mine, can you check one more time? I'll send you a PM with ZIP for shipping quote
No problems I send you photos of the keys tomorrow !

However no shipping before the end of the Paypal dispute.
Berserkfan didn't yet replied. If no answer I transmits to Paypal as complaint next week.

Right, I hope you can find your order, or complete your dispute safely. Thank you very much.
I've trusted beserkfan, so I tried to trust the community one more time. That's why I did not file a dispute with PayPal
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 14 May 2016, 16:09:49
If there are two Full size set, then I believe one of them is Kibort's and one is mine. And according to the PM, the bag that says Bluetooth should be his and ISO should be mine, can you check one more time? I'll send you a PM with ZIP for shipping quote
No problems I send you photos of the keys tomorrow !

However no shipping before the end of the Paypal dispute.
Berserkfan didn't yet replied. If no answer I transmits to Paypal as complaint next week.

Right, I hope you can find your order, or complete your dispute safely. Thank you very much.
I've trusted beserkfan, so I tried to trust the community one more time. That's why I did not file a dispute with PayPal
I'd advise you not to wait.   Unless he pays you in some other fashion,  there's no way for him to refund your money now that disputes have been filed and escalated. The earlier you file,  the better chance you have of getting in before they realize how big this really is.   But I'm not so sure that ship hasn't sailed already; that image in the other thread is very likely his balance after the first few went against him if it's an accurate picture at all.

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Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: nugglets on Sat, 14 May 2016, 17:42:56
So my package arrived today, and was at least correct for the "big" item.

Ordered vortex white backlit doubleshots, 100 each of cyan, aquamarine and purple LEDs, 200 SIP sockets and a set of cherry stabs.

Got this: http://imgur.com/a/rL8n0

Correct caps, but 100x Green LEDs and nothing else.

Now, I know my order was nothing really so I'm not posting to complain. Just doing so for documentation's sake.

I assumed you paid the cheap shipping with no tracking? Considering I'm in SoCal as well, hopefully I'll get my mystery box within the next couple of days.

Ya, just standard shipping. I'm assuming that because it was such a small box, they just used it as filler on a plane instead of taking the boat.

Customs processing is a total crap shoot, though. Ordered an RGB strip from China awhile back that was even smaller than this. It sat in customs for three weeks, despite flying out the night I ordered and arriving to customs the next day.

As for the comments relating to trusting other members to be honest about what they received... Though it would be disappointing if that were the case, I find no point in speculating or worrying about things that one cannot control themselves. The response in this thread has been very limited and it's probably safe to say the majority of buyers aren't aware of what's happening here. I myself only stumbled into this thread out of curiosity when I saw the thread title "DONE!", which gave absolutely no indication of it's contents.

Likewise, the other thread he started had a title that you knew was going to just be drama and so was likely avoided by many. Might I suggest a new thread which may draw more attention? One specifically related to the accounting being done with the spreadsheet, as well as disputes and their resolutions? I'm new, so I don't know if that would be against the rules, but it seems to me it should help greatly with visibility.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 14 May 2016, 20:22:22

curiosity when I saw the thread title "DONE!", which gave absolutely no indication of it's contents.


"Do" is slang for "have sex with"

Done is the past tense of do.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: gnarlsagan on Sat, 14 May 2016, 22:44:18
Hi guys. I ordered black M13 buckling spring keycaps from berserkfan, but have yet to hear anything back from him. Can anyone let me know if they get these keycaps? I haven't gotten anything yet, but if I do I will update here. Posting proof below. (removed since it included berserkfan's email).
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: Venatorious on Sat, 14 May 2016, 23:28:18
Shouldn't you black out berserkfan's info too for security reasons?  :-\
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: YJL on Sun, 15 May 2016, 05:55:40
Hello everyone,

Been a lurker and still quite new to the keyboard scene but decided to jump on the sale when I saw that berserkfan is a Singaporean for cheap shipping. I ordered the following from him:

C08. KBT Pure, unlubed 78g clears, blue theme aluminum casing and cable, SIP modded RGB LEDs w extra translucent keycaps, $100

Thick PBT colored grab bag $10 for 80
Tai Hao sets red and black $8 x2 = $16
Teensy 2.0 no pins $14

and received the following:

SA row 3 1u legends and blanks
SA row 2/4 legends and blanks
R4 and R5 black blanks
hyperfuse DCS purple on gray 1x teal on dark gray mods
small bag of SA blank keycaps
small bags of 3-5 keycaps of variety
2 Teensy 2.0
14 bags of white on black keycaps (some are labeled traditional cherry WOB)

I see that there is an excel spreadsheet that is being collated but proof of purchase etc is needed hence I'm posting to ask who should I be PMing for I havent really been following the thread. Unfortunately I paid via local money transfer so I don't think there's any avenue to file a dispute for me so hopefully I can still get a refund.
Title: Re: DONE!
Post by: user 18 on Sun, 15 May 2016, 09:17:26
Hey folks,

In the interest of not continuing to bump this thread up in the classifieds, please continue discussion in this thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82065.0.