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NYT Article about eSports
jwaz:
Wait... EG is out of Alameda now?? That's really close to my work.
tricheboars:
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--- Quote from: noisyturtle on Sat, 28 September 2013, 21:09:37 ---I think esports defeat the main purpose behind why video games exist which is for people to discover, experience, and play them in their own individual light. An escape into other worlds where you can become something other than yourself. Living vicariously through someone who plays a certain game seems silly to me now, as an adult. As a kid I participated in the Blockbuster World Championship and got my mom to drive 3 states away and take a few days off work just so I could, all the while trying(as best a 12 year old could) to describe how video games will be spectator sports in the future. I was right, but after shaping my life around them and eventually finding a career in the field, the idea of esports irks me for some reason. I should be proud, or happy that's the way things turned out and feel somehow validated but for a myriad of reasons I don't.
I occasionally watch let's plays and tournaments, but mostly as a study of tactics or to see if I want to purchase a specific title. Maybe it's that with all the training in the world I know I'll never be able to be an Olympic swimmer or get into the NBA, but know with lots of time anyone could get good enough to be in an esports tourney which invalidates my view on gaming as an ethereal out of body subjective experience.
Just my feelings, so don't take them to heart.
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This simply isn't true of most people. I think this article is pretty good on describing some traits that set pro gamers apart from the average gamer:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303918804579105333661539264.html
Age is definitely a factor when it comes to reflexes in gaming and pros have a much better innate understanding of the game and are able to formulate better strategies/plays in specific situations faster than most people. Maturity is definitely a big thing especially for team games too. I hope someday that e-sports in North America will become as accepted and widespread as it is in Asia. E-sports in Asian countries, especially Korea are on a whole nother level.
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i really do see e-sports as a major player in the US entertainment market in the next coming years. i am excited about this.
ok so i will be 30 in like a month. i have found that people younger than me (except my brothers) tend to agree that pro-gamers are playing a "sport" but they aren't athletes. Many people feel that golf is in the same vein as eSports. but when i talk to people older than me the conversation isnt even taken seriously. "video games are for children and why should an adult care about a child's game." this is a very frustrating response. i usually just change the subject if someone says something like that cause it isnt worth talking to them until they see eSports with their own eyes.
I dont think many people who were at the international III this year would say that DOTA2 is not a "team sport". it is clear that stragedy and coordinated team play is necessary to win. but they aint athletes. i can accept that. however, they should be given "atheletic level Visas" to visit other countries/play in tournaments.
this is an interesting debate. i imagine that more of you agree with me on this site than disagree with me. lets see...
baldgye:
I really don't think esports as it is now is sustainable. There is far too much money going out of esports IMO. As far as sc2 goes it's only gotten worse with time and WCS has really ****ed the US scene pretty hard.
missalaire:
--- Quote from: baldgye on Mon, 30 September 2013, 16:25:00 ---I really don't think esports as it is now is sustainable. There is far too much money going out of esports IMO. As far as sc2 goes it's only gotten worse with time and WCS has really ****ed the US scene pretty hard.
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Its still growing in North America, but i think Riot Games has helped make great strides towards progressing it. They have even lost money on some events to do this. More large companies are definitely starting to take notice and have even started sponsoring some teams.
noisyturtle:
"pro-gamers are playing a 'sport' but they aren't athletes"
This about sums it up. gotta respect the skills, but I can't put it on the same level as athletes who live and breath their sport and sculpt their bodies and regimes around it.
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