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Title: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 30 December 2015, 05:24:17
In few days MD will run a new batch of Granite. I believe this will be the last one and I want to make it special.

If you have any request to make it better, this is the right time!

PLEASE note that I can't do anything about Signature Plastics QC, so apart from that, the sky is the limit.

Particularly I'd like some input regarding the Ergodox kit (http://i.imgur.com/BcOU3cb.png). Is there anything we can do to perfect it?

Also. The set will include a new language never done before, that is already decided and I'll show you the mockups in few hours.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Glenmael on Wed, 30 December 2015, 05:27:50
In few days MD will run a new batch of Granite. I believe this will be the last one and I want to make it special.

If you have any request to make it better, this is the right time!

PLEASE note that I can't do anything about Signature Plastics QC, so apart from that, the sky is the limit.

Particularly I'd like some input regarding the Ergodox kit (http://i.imgur.com/BcOU3cb.png). Is there anything we can do to perfect it?

Also. The set will include a new language never done before, that is already decided and I'll show you the mockups in few hours.

Thanks!

I don't have much to add aside from the fact that I'll be picking up a few of the novelty kits I'd missed :)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 30 December 2015, 05:31:43
and of course the Sindarin kit :)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Glenmael on Wed, 30 December 2015, 05:33:17
and of course the Sindarin kit :)

...oh! ABSOLUTELY!  :p :eek: :thumb:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: RNT on Wed, 30 December 2015, 10:18:20
Wonderful, looking forward to it.

Is there a possiblity that the base kit includes keycaps for White Fox, for example True Fox layout or do we have to buy an extra kit?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: thaddeus on Wed, 30 December 2015, 11:17:53
Excited to hear that you're bringing this set back...if it is truly the last time, then I will ensure to hop on it!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ccc24 on Wed, 30 December 2015, 11:45:56
I think the ergodox set is fine, maybe more blue or red to some of the keys would be nice.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 30 December 2015, 12:06:34
Wonderful, looking forward to it.

Is there a possiblity that the base kit includes keycaps for White Fox, for example True Fox layout or do we have to buy an extra kit?

there will be some special keys for the whitefox. You'll probably have to buy the base kit + mods + extras

I think the ergodox set is fine, maybe more blue or red to some of the keys would be nice.

thanks. I'll see what I can do. You know adding colors increase the cost
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Wed, 30 December 2015, 12:08:06
I would say "use another keycap type, forget DSA" but I know it's not gonna happen, so I will just stay here at my corner.

Another suggestion that I know isn't feasible (but I'll make anyway) is to divide the international kit in smaller chunks.

Best of luck for Round 4 (although this is unnecessary, Granite sells like water in the desert).
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Zorberema on Wed, 30 December 2015, 16:50:38
Awesome! Whitefox novelties maybe? :)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: neverused on Wed, 30 December 2015, 17:34:25
and of course the Sindarin kit :)
I'm excited for this
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ccc24 on Wed, 30 December 2015, 17:41:31

I think the ergodox set is fine, maybe more blue or red to some of the keys would be nice.

thanks. I'll see what I can do. You know adding colors increase the cost

well never mind then, I think keeping the ergodox price low is more important considering the non standard key sizes.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: romevi on Wed, 30 December 2015, 17:45:56
Will the new language be Mexican? It's so hard to find things in my native language, which is Mexican.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Steezus on Wed, 30 December 2015, 17:57:47
and of course the Sindarin kit :)

I'm very excited for this, I have most of the child deals so basically any novelties will peak my interest.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Wed, 30 December 2015, 18:01:17
Someone had suggested CMY mods on reddit a while ago, I'd be interested in seeing a mockup of that.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ika on Wed, 30 December 2015, 18:07:34
I'd like to see more blanks provided in the Ergodox kit at the very least, I didn't want to use half the legends the way they are, but everyone has their own preferences, so blanks would be the best way to go. Maybe even so ambitious as relegendables?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: JorisBoers on Wed, 30 December 2015, 18:38:52
Hnnnggg, Why now? my wallet is in rehab from the holidays :confused:

Better sell my kidney... Anybody intrested?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: s0m on Wed, 30 December 2015, 18:47:37
Very nice! Looking forward to finally grabbing this for my Ducky Mini.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: xondat on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:33:39
I said I'd get in for the last run... But I can't afford it and it sucks. Timing is great :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: piemancoder on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:53:50
(http://i.giphy.com/iPTTjEt19igne.gif)

Can't wait, so happy I didn't buy anything for the holidays!

Edit: Sorry for the noob question, but is it PBT or ABS?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Dude on Wed, 30 December 2015, 20:00:25
I know others have mentioned the WhiteFox on this thread already, but I'd like to put in my $0.02 as well. I'd love to see a single WhiteFox pack that also includes the amazing fox printed keys. Or at least a way to separately get the Whitefox novelty keys.

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 30 December 2015, 20:23:08
What do you think about adding a Vim kit? I'll admit I have a certain bias...
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: mrboovn on Wed, 30 December 2015, 20:38:23
Wonderful.Now i don't need to check out market by every hours for a granite set :D
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: KatzenKinder on Wed, 30 December 2015, 20:40:55
Sick! Definitely going to try to pick stuff up for a 40% soon :)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: alexjd99 on Wed, 30 December 2015, 21:15:59
Planck kit would be really cool, but I'm sure that's already happening.
CMYW kit would be amazing too.

I am so happy this is happening when I actually have money to spend  :))
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: braidn on Wed, 30 December 2015, 21:20:19
What do you think about adding a Vim kit? I'll admit I have a certain bias...

Second this
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: braidn on Wed, 30 December 2015, 21:27:03
Concerning the ergodox kit:

1. Two space keys at 2u.
2. Perhaps random color keys like the blue enter at tab and delete/sides
3. Only one fn key for the vertical/horizontal/2u keys
4. Inverted " key (like the squirrely bracket keys)

Just a quick few suggestions looking at my current setup (granite ergodox kit with deep space alphas)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Wed, 30 December 2015, 21:43:18
CMYW kit would be amazing too.

I know I just suggested this as well, but I did some digging and found that it may not be possible (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56354.msg1417454#msg1417454) since SP does not seem to have the right colors available.

EDIT: also this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61612.msg1433772#msg1433772)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: BigTinz on Wed, 30 December 2015, 21:44:10
1.25 Yellow text WIN key please!

(https://i.imgur.com/Pioi8jG.png)

Maybe a pack with text directions + the above?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: OneDudeWolfPack on Wed, 30 December 2015, 22:48:31
Hi Matt3o,

Noticed your post and saw that you wanted input on the Ergodox kit and I wanted to chime in.  On the gray "-_" and "+=" would it be possible to change the orientation as they line up with the print side-by-side in my build.  I would also like the ability to get the kit with a dot on the home row keys instead of a scoop, even if it would be a part of the Blank Pack. Maybe include a blank spacebar in the Ergodoxian kit, for me I had a full set of color matched DSA blanks so it was not an issue.

Thanks for supporting the community, have a set or two from every round and they have been great.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 30 December 2015, 22:51:23
Sick! Definitely going to try to pick stuff up for a 40% soon :)

Ohh yes, a couple very nice 40% boards have been popping up recently in IC etc :)

Very interested in this nbd language too.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: itzmeluigi on Wed, 30 December 2015, 22:53:47
Is there going to be a Cyrillic kit like the previous ones?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Steezus on Wed, 30 December 2015, 23:51:15
Is there going to be a Cyrillic kit like the previous ones?

I forgot about the Cyrillic kit, +1 to that.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: chamelemon_64 on Thu, 31 December 2015, 00:15:18
CMY mods pls :P
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 31 December 2015, 01:06:42
Someone had suggested CMY mods on reddit a while ago, I'd be interested in seeing a mockup of that.

I'll check again, but I'm afraid SP don't have CMY colors in PBT!

I'd like to see more blanks provided in the Ergodox kit at the very least, I didn't want to use half the legends the way they are, but everyone has their own preferences, so blanks would be the best way to go.

Granite blanks never sold well, I don't think we will add more.


Edit: Sorry for the noob question, but is it PBT or ABS?

PBT

I know others have mentioned the WhiteFox on this thread already, but I'd like to put in my $0.02 as well. I'd love to see a single WhiteFox pack that also includes the amazing fox printed keys. Or at least a way to separately get the Whitefox novelty keys.

I don't think a WhiteFox only kit will be possible, you'll probably need base+mod+extras.

CMYW kit would be amazing too.

I'll try to find another nice combination of colors

What do you think about adding a Vim kit? I'll admit I have a certain bias...

We already had Vim, you know I don't like to replicate novelties.

1.25 Yellow text WIN key please!

Maybe a pack with text directions + the above?

I believe we will have different colors this time.

Is there going to be a Cyrillic kit like the previous ones?

Cyrillic has been asked so many times... I hate to replicate things... let's see how the extra language I created will be welcomed.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: QuickDelat on Thu, 31 December 2015, 01:13:42
Curious for the language & new novelties (hoping for whitefox logo)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: salasource on Thu, 31 December 2015, 02:11:54
If it has international set, I'll buy. If it has Õ letter for 3rd row, I'll buy more than one.  :thumb:
Also interested of whitefox set.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Jedi on Thu, 31 December 2015, 03:52:02
My ergodox kits from every other GB sit and wait due to the long delays and problems with the infinity ergo from over a year ago.  Just curious, why the push for more ergodox caps?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 31 December 2015, 04:00:16
This might be the missing language

(http://i.imgur.com/rpgOGG8.png)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: sth on Thu, 31 December 2015, 04:26:39
uhhhhhhh

alps?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ssbsts on Thu, 31 December 2015, 04:31:01
I've been looking around for a Granite set for a little while now. SO glad I found this thread today.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: zennasyndroxx on Thu, 31 December 2015, 04:31:17
what about hiragana/katakana or hangeul? chinese even
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: WinterIsle on Thu, 31 December 2015, 04:36:19
Thai and Arabic?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: zoke on Thu, 31 December 2015, 05:47:27
is it possible to have seperate language layout kit(for example: NORDIC,DE,FR, if yes would it be cheaper?)(no international kit where's all language layout kit included)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 31 December 2015, 05:51:16
is it possible to have seperate language layout kit(for example: NORDIC,DE,FR, if yes would it be cheaper?)(no international kit where's all language layout kit included)

I don't think that would be possible
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: StarWarsAs on Thu, 31 December 2015, 05:59:21
Bring back the Star Wars keys
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: dorf on Thu, 31 December 2015, 06:15:56
awesome! pretty please ISO enter in DSA profile? how about international kit with blue symbols instead of red?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 31 December 2015, 06:57:47
Fantastic news
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Thu, 31 December 2015, 07:37:55
This might be the missing language

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rpgOGG8.png)

Wow I thought you were joking!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 31 December 2015, 07:44:59
What do you think about adding a Vim kit? I'll admit I have a certain bias...

We already had Vim, you know I don't like to replicate novelties.


Sorry, I should have asked the question better. I meant differently colored HJKL keys, like a WASD pack, not a novelty Vim key. Another, more polarizing option would be to have the HJKL legends also include the arrows like the original ADM-3A terminal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-3A). I had SP make these legends (http://vimcaps.com/products/vim-hjkl-replacement-keys-dsa-profile) already.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Thu, 31 December 2015, 07:45:35
Matt design skills are second to none, but legends for a fictional language? well, I'd prefer some commitment to make the warping of keys at the dyeing process to get improved, as a reason to get another set; but, I understand that is beyond the reach of anyone, but SP engineers.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: OneDudeWolfPack on Thu, 31 December 2015, 07:48:31
Another thought that I had was to bring back the GKK with the Red font on WASD that was in my Round 1.  Everyone that sees my WASD board with Round 1 likes how discrete it is.  This pic below also shows how the + and - keys are lined up when putting them near the index finger.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5584/14662254844_dcbf44fe96.jpg)

*Disclaimer: not my ergodox in the pic.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: neverused on Thu, 31 December 2015, 07:52:14
This might be the missing language

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rpgOGG8.png)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/dd/4f/e1/dd4fe112bada6c12fc2f94b70ebe1402.gif)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: romevi on Thu, 31 December 2015, 07:52:38
Matt design skills are second to none, but legends for a fictional language? well, I'd prefer some commitment to make the warping of keys at the dyeing process to get improved, as a reason to get another set; but, I understand that is beyond the reach of anyone, but SP engineers.

Wasn't Sindarin heavily worked on by he and samwisekoi?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 31 December 2015, 07:55:59
Sorry, I should have asked the question better. I meant differently colored HJKL keys, like a WASD pack, not a novelty Vim key. Another, more polarizing option would be to have the HJKL legends also include the arrows like the original ADM-3A terminal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-3A). I had SP make these legends (http://vimcaps.com/products/vim-hjkl-replacement-keys-dsa-profile) already.

my bad, I read "vim key" instead of "vim kit". Yes, that would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: sth on Thu, 31 December 2015, 08:02:00
alps???
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: braidn on Thu, 31 December 2015, 08:02:39
This might be the missing language

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rpgOGG8.png)

Wow I thought you were joking!

So psyched he wasn't.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 31 December 2015, 08:11:40
alps???

sooner or later...
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: sth on Thu, 31 December 2015, 08:23:23
alps!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: getf on Thu, 31 December 2015, 09:56:07
Any chance of a DCS version set? I really enjoyed how your work on TOXiC and Midnight turned out. Its a wonderful profile that has great ergonomics.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 31 December 2015, 10:17:08
Any chance of a DCS version set? I really enjoyed how your work on TOXiC and Midnight turned out. Its a wonderful profile that has great ergonomics.

PBT DCS is really too thin, but I'm in talk for a cherry replica profile in PBT.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: tDr1v3r on Thu, 31 December 2015, 10:26:15
Any chance of a DCS version set? I really enjoyed how your work on TOXiC and Midnight turned out. Its a wonderful profile that has great ergonomics.

PBT DCS is really too thin, but I'm in talk for a cherry replica profile in PBT.
That would be really great... DSA isn't really my style, but the Cherry / DCS profiles are amazing.

Any chance for some arrow keys for 60% users? Deep dished or side printed, it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: piemancoder on Thu, 31 December 2015, 10:32:59
Now that you introduced Sindarin, my wallet hates keyboards.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 31 December 2015, 11:24:37
Now that you introduced Sindarin, my wallet hates keyboards.

I know right :)

Any chance for some arrow keys for 60% users? Deep dished or side printed, it doesn't matter.

you mean as a secondary legend on WASD or IJKL and such?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 31 December 2015, 11:29:55
I'm in talk for a cherry replica profile in PBT.
Now we are talking business. :D
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: tDr1v3r on Thu, 31 December 2015, 11:55:41
Now that you introduced Sindarin, my wallet hates keyboards.

I know right :)

Any chance for some arrow keys for 60% users? Deep dished or side printed, it doesn't matter.

you mean as a secondary legend on WASD or IJKL and such?

Yup.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: burnerturner on Thu, 31 December 2015, 15:33:46
I would love to see the same color of blue back for the gamer kits and enter keys.  I just think that color goes so well with the rest of the kit, and seems to be a community favorite.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Thu, 31 December 2015, 15:35:58
Any chance of a DCS version set? I really enjoyed how your work on TOXiC and Midnight turned out. Its a wonderful profile that has great ergonomics.

PBT DCS is really too thin, but I'm in talk for a cherry replica profile in PBT.


You meant a thick PBT Cherry profile like Gateron's PBT?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: cerdra on Thu, 31 December 2015, 16:31:59
In the Vim kit, if one is printed, I'd love to see 1u and 1.75 size keycaps printed with the Vim logo on it, in the grey and blue modifier key colors. I often remap my Caps Lock key to Escape (at least using Vim), and I'd want to have that key as well as my escape key match the rest of the board, with a nice solid grey logo.
Also thanks for doing this drop again, I love this keycap set after my friend showed me his, and didn't think I'd get to purchase my own set directly from the manufacturer.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Thu, 31 December 2015, 16:57:05
Any chance of a DCS version set? I really enjoyed how your work on TOXiC and Midnight turned out. Its a wonderful profile that has great ergonomics.

PBT DCS is really too thin, but I'm in talk for a cherry replica profile in PBT.

I just got a DCS keyset and was really hoping that round 4 would still be DSA...
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: neverused on Thu, 31 December 2015, 19:50:56
Is this the only time I can expect to see Sindarin on a set? I'm not big on DSA but if this is the only chance of getting it, I'll take it.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Steezus on Thu, 31 December 2015, 20:07:33
This might be the missing language

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rpgOGG8.png)


I can't believe I missed this picture at first, this is a must for me. Looks really good Matt3o! :thumb:

Lord of the Rings is by far my all-time favorite trilogy. :D
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 01 January 2016, 01:57:25
Is this the only time I can expect to see Sindarin on a set? I'm not big on DSA but if this is the only chance of getting it, I'll take it.

Sindarin for sure won't be replicated. Ever.

I can't believe I missed this picture at first, this is a must for me. Looks really good Matt3o! :thumb:

Lord of the Rings is by far my all-time favorite trilogy. :D

tell me about it :)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 01 January 2016, 11:31:32
Nitpicking a little bit:

You should call that elvish set Tengwar, not Sindarin. Sindarin, the language of the Sindar, is one of the elvish languages that uses Tengwar as writing system. Quenya also uses Tengwar and was spoken/written by the Noldor, one of the elven clans that went to Valinor.

Tengwar is the Quenya word for 'letters'.

(Tolkien nerd here, I beg your pardon. I like the movies, but I prefer the books.)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: romevi on Fri, 01 January 2016, 11:39:21
Nitpicking a little bit:

You should call that elvish set Tengwar, not Sindarin. Sindarin, the language of the Sindar, is one of the elvish languages that uses Tengwar as writing system. Quenya also uses Tengwar and was spoken/written by the Noldor, one of the elven clans that went to Valinor.

Tengwar is the Quenya word for 'letters'.

(Tolkien nerd here, I beg your pardon. I like the movies, but I prefer the books.)

You should check out the thread about the Sindarin set.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 01 January 2016, 12:06:04
Nitpicking a little bit:

You should call that elvish set Tengwar, not Sindarin. Sindarin, the language of the Sindar, is one of the elvish languages that uses Tengwar as writing system. Quenya also uses Tengwar and was spoken/written by the Noldor, one of the elven clans that went to Valinor.

Tengwar is the Quenya word for 'letters'.

(Tolkien nerd here, I beg your pardon. I like the movies, but I prefer the books.)

Listen to romevi :)

You should check out the thread about the Sindarin set.

Here I make easy for you https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38264.msg842147#msg842147
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: xondat on Fri, 01 January 2016, 13:59:20
Probably going to spend $200+ in this round seeming it's the last. Go hard or go home.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Steezus on Fri, 01 January 2016, 14:08:21
Probably going to spend $200+ in this round seeming it's the last. Go hard or go home.

That's what I'm talking about. :p

I spent $150 the last round but I'm finding it's not enough, definitely planning on picking up the few extra kits that I don't have. :D
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: DAVYtm on Fri, 01 January 2016, 14:14:21
Very excited for this round of Granite! Will probably be ordering almost everything with it... My B. Mini is naked without a set right now, been waiting for Granite to cover it since I can't find any cheap keysets for it in the meanwhile
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Sat, 02 January 2016, 10:08:41
So here's an idea that hasn't been in Granite before (I think):

Have a "Programmers Pack" with IDE/Debugger symbols on it. For example, Step over/into/out (https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/help/debug-tool-window.html#steptoolbar) and resume, pause, stop, etc. (https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/help/debug-tool-window.html#d1275021e226) would be nice to have. Obviously the JetBrains icons wouldn't fit well with the theme of the set, but the general idea of the icons (the way the arrows point, etc) would be the same across lots of IDEs and could be re-imagined to fit Granite.

In round 3, some of the icon mods for home/end/insert could be step out/into/over in a pinch, the 1u tab could be run-to-cursor and some of the media keys could be used for resume and end. But there's still not a perfect way to get all the right symbols, plus you would have to steal keys from other spots on the boards :)

There could also be a programming language pack (or include in the programmer pack?). I do a TON of python programming and would love a python logo key. Other language logos (Ruby, Java pls dont kill me, HTML5, CSS, etc.) could also be included in the pack.

Other novelty icon ideas:

Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: piemancoder on Sat, 02 January 2016, 16:00:54
So here's an idea that hasn't been in Granite before (I think):

Have a "Programmers Pack" with IDE/Debugger symbols on it. For example, Step over/into/out (https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/help/debug-tool-window.html#steptoolbar) and resume, pause, stop, etc. (https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/help/debug-tool-window.html#d1275021e226) would be nice to have. Obviously the JetBrains icons wouldn't fit well with the theme of the set, but the general idea of the icons (the way the arrows point, etc) would be the same across lots of IDEs and could be re-imagined to fit Granite.

In round 3, some of the icon mods for home/end/insert could be step out/into/over in a pinch, the 1u tab could be run-to-cursor and some of the media keys could be used for resume and end. But there's still not a perfect way to get all the right symbols, plus you would have to steal keys from other spots on the boards :)

There could also be a programming language pack (or include in the programmer pack?). I do a TON of python programming and would love a python logo key. Other language logos (Ruby, Java pls dont kill me, HTML5, CSS, etc.) could also be included in the pack.

Other novelty icon ideas:

  • Raspberry Pi
  • Arduino
  • Debian (might be kinda cool given the recent unfortunate loss of Ian Murdock)
  • BitTorrent

A python and raspberry pi logo key would be amazing!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Glenmael on Sat, 02 January 2016, 16:36:32
So here's an idea that hasn't been in Granite before (I think):

Have a "Programmers Pack" with IDE/Debugger symbols on it. For example, Step over/into/out (https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/help/debug-tool-window.html#steptoolbar) and resume, pause, stop, etc. (https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/help/debug-tool-window.html#d1275021e226) would be nice to have. Obviously the JetBrains icons wouldn't fit well with the theme of the set, but the general idea of the icons (the way the arrows point, etc) would be the same across lots of IDEs and could be re-imagined to fit Granite.

In round 3, some of the icon mods for home/end/insert could be step out/into/over in a pinch, the 1u tab could be run-to-cursor and some of the media keys could be used for resume and end. But there's still not a perfect way to get all the right symbols, plus you would have to steal keys from other spots on the boards :)

There could also be a programming language pack (or include in the programmer pack?). I do a TON of python programming and would love a python logo key. Other language logos (Ruby, Java pls dont kill me, HTML5, CSS, etc.) could also be included in the pack.

Other novelty icon ideas:

  • Raspberry Pi
  • Arduino
  • Debian (might be kinda cool given the recent unfortunate loss of Ian Murdock)
  • BitTorrent

+1 for the programming pack :)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Sat, 02 January 2016, 16:46:51
Do you think you could get the Windows 98' keys like the one in Ivan's PBT Round 4? What about SA-profile? Even if it's all Row 3.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 02 January 2016, 17:01:41
Do you think you could get the Windows 98' keys like the one in Ivan's PBT Round 4? What about SA-profile? Even if it's all Row 3.

that should be already included in the win-kit
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Sat, 02 January 2016, 17:06:21
Do you think you could get the Windows 98' keys like the one in Ivan's PBT Round 4? What about SA-profile? Even if it's all Row 3.

that should be already included in the win-kit

Oh awesome :D thank you for the fast reply.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Sat, 02 January 2016, 17:39:09
What about SA-profile? Even if it's all Row 3.

Last time SA profile was suggested, the answer was no since SP can't dye sub SA caps.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 03 January 2016, 07:21:46
Another kit I'm evaluating.

(http://i.imgur.com/SL5Z9e1.png)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Jedi on Sun, 03 January 2016, 08:41:58
Secondary legends would really be nice. Have you any thought on side printed as an option?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 03 January 2016, 08:45:41
Secondary legends would really be nice. Have you any thought on side printed as an option?

SP can't dye-sub side printed legends
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: xondat on Sun, 03 January 2016, 09:44:16
Another kit I'm evaluating.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SL5Z9e1.png)


The keys that have two legends on already should have the 3rd legend in the middle, not awkwardly next to the bottom legend in my opinion.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: skipped on Sun, 03 January 2016, 11:38:45
Another kit I'm evaluating.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SL5Z9e1.png)


I like this a lot
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 03 January 2016, 13:02:16
Please also send suggestions for the novelty keys!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: piemancoder on Sun, 03 January 2016, 16:49:11
Please also send suggestions for the novelty keys!

A robot similar to your avatar, a volcano (where granite is formed), or a cap that says "granite" on it.

Also, I'm pretty sure the Raspberry Pi foundation would allow you to use their logo if you ask  ;D
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Sun, 03 January 2016, 17:06:34
A robot similar to your avatar, a volcano (where granite is formed), or a cap that says "granite" on it.

Also, I'm pretty sure the Raspberry Pi foundation would allow you to use their logo if you ask  ;D

Did some digging (https://www.raspberrypi.org/trademark-rules/) and it might not be easy :(

Quote
You may not:
...
(iv) manufacture, sell or give away any items of merchandise bearing the Raspberry Pi marks, such as T-shirts, caps, pens, stickers, mugs etc. (unless you have a separate express written trade mark licence from us);
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: xondat on Sun, 03 January 2016, 17:09:13
Please also send suggestions for the novelty keys!

A robot similar to your avatar, a volcano (where granite is formed), or a cap that says "granite" on it.

Also, I'm pretty sure the Raspberry Pi foundation would allow you to use their logo if you ask  ;D

I think having the exact robot in his avatar would be a great send off for the final run of Granites.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Jedi on Sun, 03 January 2016, 18:57:03
For the slackers like myself that ignored rounds 1 to 3, which keys can we expect to not make it into R4?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Sun, 03 January 2016, 19:07:35
I think having the exact robot in his avatar would be a great send off for the final run of Granites.

Pretty sure they had one of those in the nerdom kit from round 1.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: DaveW on Sun, 03 January 2016, 19:07:57
Another kit I'm evaluating.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SL5Z9e1.png)


Big fan of this addition.

I think having the exact robot in his avatar would be a great send off for the final run of Granites.

Pretty sure they had one of those in the nerdom kit from round 1.

Maybe instead a custom E key that is a 3 (as in Matt3o)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Sun, 03 January 2016, 20:22:30
Another kit I'm evaluating.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SL5Z9e1.png)



Good idea.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: piemancoder on Sun, 03 January 2016, 21:34:39
I think having the exact robot in his avatar would be a great send off for the final run of Granites.

Pretty sure they had one of those in the nerdom kit from round 1.

Nope, just an average, normal robot:

(http://i.imgur.com/ZBnJZ2E.png)

Another Linux Tux would be cool though .
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 04 January 2016, 02:36:30
Maybe instead a custom E key that is a 3 (as in Matt3o)

hehe this is a nice idea :D

PS: my avatar was done in R3, don't know if we will replicate that
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 04 January 2016, 05:36:11
Another kit I'm evaluating.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SL5Z9e1.png)

Sigh. There you go making me buy more granite again!

Id like to see more novelty caps that are bigger than 1u. Maybe some love for the vendors? Matching 1.25u/1.5u [CTRL] and ALT keys? ZealPC logo?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 04 January 2016, 07:20:14
more options

(http://i.imgur.com/y1Fm55N.png)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: xondat on Mon, 04 January 2016, 07:31:21
more options

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/y1Fm55N.png)

F keys look so much better now.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Mon, 04 January 2016, 08:10:34
more options

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/y1Fm55N.png)



You read my mind about the num pad, I thought that just yesterday, it is great. Now I have a reason to get another set.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 04 January 2016, 10:19:24
Possible new bonus pack

(http://i.imgur.com/AnZ4aBe.png)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Mon, 04 January 2016, 10:22:06
I thought this should be the year to get my expenditure on keyboards low;  but, I am afraid that this set may change my expectations.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Mon, 04 January 2016, 10:26:13
Possible new bonus pack

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AnZ4aBe.png)


I don't know what all of these are and I'm kindof afraid to ask...
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Kibort on Mon, 04 January 2016, 10:33:21
sorry i'm new to this wanted to show something but nvm cant even find how to delete my comment
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 04 January 2016, 10:40:00
Possible new bonus pack

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AnZ4aBe.png)


I don't know what all of these are and I'm kindof afraid to ask...

Space invaders | Cherry | Any key | WhiteFox | Game of Thrones/Stark | labyrinth | OCP
heart | matt3o | Any Key | Android | Triforce | Pokemon ball | Nakatomi Plaza
Whitefox | Whitefox | Linux | Linux | Amiga | Amiga

1 letter short of making some good novelties  :-[

?

Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Kibort on Mon, 04 January 2016, 10:40:44
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Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 04 January 2016, 11:05:29
more options

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/y1Fm55N.png)

F keys look so much better now.

I dunno, I like the first mock up better  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

EDIT: The original red sub-legends on the international kits did not push the main legends to the side like that. I think it looks strange. I also prefer the lower case 'f2' style - looks more mathematical.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: cryptokey on Mon, 04 January 2016, 11:10:05
Possible new bonus pack

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AnZ4aBe.png)


I'm loving the Linux keys!  If for no other reason, I'd get the novelties for those.  Would you consider swapping one of the less-known novelties for 1 or 2 command line keys?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 04 January 2016, 11:14:05
new "RGB" set... what you think?

(http://i.imgur.com/K969HE6.png)

I'm loving the Linux keys!  If for no other reason, I'd get the novelties for those.  Would you consider swapping one of the less-known novelties for 1 or 2 command line keys?

Define "command line keys"
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: neverused on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:05:57
new "RGB" set... what you think?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/K969HE6.png)


I'm loving the Linux keys!  If for no other reason, I'd get the novelties for those.  Would you consider swapping one of the less-known novelties for 1 or 2 command line keys?

Define "command line keys"
Where's the "B"? Looks like RGPY
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: OfTheWild on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:18:37
maybe its CMYK
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:35:24
can't you see the ""? :P
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:28:38
@Matt3o: Have you ever considered to have RGB legends for the modifiers?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:35:47
Please also send suggestions for the novelty keys!

Possible new bonus pack

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AnZ4aBe.png)


Commodore logo keys in 1.25u size?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:46:52
Granite R4, Beta 1

http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E (http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E)

Please review and comment. Thanks!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:55:39
Granite R4, Beta 1

http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E (http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E)

Please review and comment. Thanks!

The escape legend on the Sindarin kit looks a lot more complicated now. I can't read either one, but I liked the simpler look of the first version (http://i.imgur.com/rpgOGG8.png).
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:00:42
Granite R4, Beta 1

http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E (http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E)

Please review and comment. Thanks!


The alignment of the numbers on the secondary legends doesn't match up with the sub-legends on the international numbers or with the numpad sub legends (7,8,9) - making them incompatible  :(  I think they just look really weird and don't fit style wise with any of the other sub-legend keys from any of the previous rounds.

Apart from that  :thumb:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: dorf on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:04:56
Granite R4, Beta 1

http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E (http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E)

Please review and comment. Thanks!


Looking good. Any hopes on the Enter key beeing DSA profile?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:07:33
I like the idea of the secondary legends keys, but it feels like half of the keys are unusuable if you buy the international kit (as number keys differ quite a bit), there's no way that the secondary legend kit can be split to a arrow key kit and a number kit?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:08:25
@dorf, if you meant the ISO key, the DCS fits the DSA nicely, but I do not know if a mold for an ISO Enter key in DSA profile is available, I don't think so, at this stage I think the amount of DSA caps sold so far, justifies the manufacturing of a new mold, but that is entirely an SP call.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: rempire on Mon, 04 January 2016, 14:27:48
Granite R4, Beta 1

http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E (http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E)

Please review and comment. Thanks!


This is going look great on the white fox boards coming in this spring.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: dorf on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:00:18
@dorf, if you meant the ISO key, the DCS fits the DSA nicely, but I do not know if a mold for an ISO Enter key in DSA profile is available, I don't think so, at this stage I think the amount of DSA caps sold so far, justifies the manufacturing of a new mold, but that is entirely an SP call.

Yes, I know. I'm typing on it. But it would be nice with a spherical ISO enter instead of cylindrical.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:24:32
yeah, unfortunately SP don't have ISO in DSA family, but DCS works just fine.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: potatowire on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:26:08
Granite R4, Beta 1

http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E (http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E)

Please review and comment. Thanks!


I am definitely in (again). My wish list of changes to the in the RGB(Y) kit would be to also have a yellow HJKL (my personal WASD), along with a 1.75u Control. On that last point, I think it would be cool to have a 1.75u novelty key (maybe differently-colored too?), since many of us re-map the Capslock, and often to different things. I would love for it to be the R3 matt3o robot or even the word "GRANITE" (can't think of a good icon equivalent). Maybe I'm crazy...
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:30:09
I'm evaluating adding another colored set, they are pretty expensive though, especially with bigger keys. Red 1.75 control is indeed a nice idea. Problem being that each new kit needs to be icon AND text.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: potatowire on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:32:16
I'm evaluating adding another colored set, they are pretty expensive though, especially with bigger keys. Red 1.75 control is indeed a nice idea. Problem being that each new kit needs to be icon AND text.

Yeah, I don't know how you make these tradeoffs so successfully time after time.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: tDr1v3r on Mon, 04 January 2016, 15:57:02
Granite R4, Beta 1

http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E (http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E)

Please review and comment. Thanks!

My wallet is screaming... they are amazing!

Anyways, I think it would be better if some of the secondary legends (for example, the numpad) were separated into smaller child deals.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:01:23
Granite R4, Beta 1

http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E (http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E)

Please review and comment. Thanks!

My wallet is screaming... they are amazing!

Anyways, I think it would be better if some of the secondary legends (for example, the numpad) were separated into smaller child deals.
As noted above. I think most ISO users would agree ;-)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:22:11
Some times you have to buy a large set just to get a few keys; therefore, it may be great to split the specialty sets in smaller sub-sets, cost-wise; however, I understand that vendors want to go the opposite direction, selling larger sets for the sake of scale economy and to get more sales.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: piemancoder on Mon, 04 January 2016, 16:42:01
These kits are pretty cool, but I'm going to have to choose my favorites.  :( When will we get info on pricing?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Dude on Mon, 04 January 2016, 20:13:40
Does the common kit come with a 6.25 spacebar? It looks like it does, but I see that's for sale separately.

I love the Bonus Pack!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: robbles on Mon, 04 January 2016, 22:21:50
Granite R4, Beta 1

http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E (http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E)

Please review and comment. Thanks!

My wallet is screaming... they are amazing!

Anyways, I think it would be better if some of the secondary legends (for example, the numpad) were separated into smaller child deals.
Agreed about breaking numpad into a different deal or getting rid of it entirely. But that is a personal thing.

Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: skipped on Mon, 04 January 2016, 22:34:21
Granite R4, Beta 1

http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E (http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E)

Please review and comment. Thanks!


I definitely like the new sets.

It sucks for ergodox users who want the red escape key to have to buy the text mods set, I personally liked the separate kit last time.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 04 January 2016, 22:36:02
I'm in.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: switchnollie on Mon, 04 January 2016, 23:17:05
I'm a big fan of secondary legends :)

Hoping there's one for alphas too.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Jedi on Mon, 04 January 2016, 23:28:21
Looking at the 2.75 right shift key.  It only comes in grey and green in these mocks.  Can it be included in red and blue variants?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: OneDudeWolfPack on Mon, 04 January 2016, 23:35:59
Granite R4, Beta 1

http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E (http://imgur.com/a/jpG2E)

Please review and comment. Thanks!


Will there be any changes to the Ergodoxian kit?  Have you given any thought about rotating the legends 90 degrees on the = and - keys?

As an addition to the blank pack or extra homing kit, can you add a color matched home row key with a homing bump?
http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-1-space-deep-dish-homing-bump-pack-of-4/ (http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-1-space-deep-dish-homing-bump-pack-of-4/)

Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 05 January 2016, 01:02:28
Some times you have to buy a large set just to get a few keys; therefore, it may be great to split the specialty sets in smaller sub-sets, cost-wise; however, I understand that vendors want to go the opposite direction, selling larger sets for the sake of scale economy and to get more sales.

it's not a vendor thing, it's that smaller kits don't tip. The only way to have "weird" kits to reach the MOQ is to group them. Everybody pay a little more but everybody get what they want (as opposed to everybody pay less and get nothing).

These kits are pretty cool, but I'm going to have to choose my favorites.  :( When will we get info on pricing?

I believe the group buy should start this Friday, but it also depends on SP.

Does the common kit come with a 6.25 spacebar? It looks like it does, but I see that's for sale separately.

This is the eternal Granite question :D YES! The 6.25u spacebar is additional. The base kit already includes one.

It sucks for ergodox users who want the red escape key to have to buy the text mods set, I personally liked the separate kit last time.

Still working on the ergodox kit.... but don't you need the text mods anyway? (for arrows, ins, end, pgup/dn, etc...)

Will there be any changes to the Ergodoxian kit?  Have you given any thought about rotating the legends 90 degrees on the = and - keys?

As an addition to the blank pack or extra homing kit, can you add a color matched home row key with a homing bump?
http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-1-space-deep-dish-homing-bump-pack-of-4/ (http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-1-space-deep-dish-homing-bump-pack-of-4/)

I'm getting basically no feedback for the ergodox, so far it's just you who chimed in... so I guess it's okay as it is. No offence, but of course I can't change it every time one person asks.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: QuickDelat on Tue, 05 January 2016, 02:05:27
no more support for French layout? I know Belgian will never happen, but at least French was close enough...

I would switch to mono, but that's missing some crucial keys... µ ù ç é è
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 05 January 2016, 02:23:23
no more support for French layout? I know Belgian will never happen, but at least French was close enough...

I would switch to mono, but that's missing some crucial keys... µ ù ç é è

I know, I'm sorry about that, but French layout has like 15 unique keys that are not needed anywhere else. At least the other layouts share a key or two at least.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 05 January 2016, 02:39:54
I really don't care for bland colors like granite, but I think I need that elven set for a golbat 40%. Definitely have a theme now!

Thanks for this matt3o! I'm not sure if it's been said, when approximately is this going up for sale?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 05 January 2016, 03:03:09
I really don't care for bland colors like granite, but I think I need that elven set for a golbat 40%. Definitely have a theme now!

Thanks for this matt3o! I'm not sure if it's been said, when approximately is this going up for sale?

possibly this Friday.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 05 January 2016, 08:08:41
How do you feel about this:

(http://i.imgur.com/82DYwwf.png)

The RGB could be something like this, but I have to check on pricing first.

(http://i.imgur.com/SCCXqpl.png)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 05 January 2016, 11:15:27
Granite R4 Beta 2.

Speak now! Don't come moaning when it's too late! :D

http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN (http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: thaddeus on Tue, 05 January 2016, 11:21:24
Granite R4 Beta 2.

Speak now! Don't come moaning when it's too late! :D

http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN (http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN)

It looks great to me! I'm really pumped about this GB. Not sure if I want text or icon mods, so I may have to grab both :o
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 05 January 2016, 11:30:45
It looks great to me! I'm really pumped about this GB. Not sure if I want text or icon mods, so I may have to grab both :o

of course both! :)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Tue, 05 January 2016, 11:37:59
After using my round 3 caps a bit I've discovered I'm not in love with the feel of DSA. But they're just so great looking I'll still probably end up picking up rgb icons, bonus, elven, and secondary legends.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ccc24 on Tue, 05 January 2016, 11:38:10
I would prefer that the Ergodox kit be as cheap as possible, so I could spend more on the other kits that cover more layouts.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Tue, 05 January 2016, 12:11:13
Granite R4 Beta 2.

Speak now! Don't come moaning when it's too late! :D

http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN (http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN)

Has a planck/atomic kit been done before in Granite?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 05 January 2016, 12:18:42
Granite R4 Beta 2.

Speak now! Don't come moaning when it's too late! :D

http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN (http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN)

Has a planck/atomic kit been done before in Granite?

Yep  :D

Mine was on the front of Jack's planck website before he had the OLKB store setup.

Original keymapping:
(http://i.imgur.com/4M7sGOT.jpg)

Latest:
(http://i.imgur.com/MCKaBoS.jpg)
I didn't like dedicated arrow keys on a 40%. I normally run the red/blue blank 1u where the Doom caps are.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Tue, 05 January 2016, 12:37:31
Yep  :D

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I was hoping for more colorful planck mods. Theres only menu/diamond keys in colored 1u with the RGB(YO) pack. It would probably make that pack prohibitively expensive to add more keys to it though, so I'll be fine without. Unless enough people would be interested in a planck specific kit?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 05 January 2016, 12:43:38
Yep  :D

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I was hoping for more colorful planck mods. Theres only menu/diamond keys in colored 1u with the RGB(YO) pack. It would probably make that pack prohibitively expensive to add more keys to it though, so I'll be fine without. Unless enough people would be interested in a planck specific kit?

No problem.

Yeah, like you said, it's pretty niche. There was never an official Planck pack so it cost me be a fair bit of money and took some trading for me to get the legends I needed. Having optional colors ontop of that would push the price up even further OR make the RGBYO kit too expensive for the average user.

Still, unlike most keysets it is actually possible to get full legend support with Granite. So, major respect to Matt3o with the amount of kits he pushes out! While I don't type much on my Planck I love that the legends are all correct on it  :thumb:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Tue, 05 January 2016, 12:54:15
yeah, unfortunately SP don't have ISO in DSA family, but DCS works just fine.

DCS ISO really go well with DSA.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 05 January 2016, 13:02:44
Granite R4 Beta 2.

Speak now! Don't come moaning when it's too late! :D

http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN (http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN)

While I'd still like a novelty 1.75u caps replacement, I'll be stocking up regardless. This version of the set is great.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: sciurus on Tue, 05 January 2016, 13:35:06
I apologize if this has already been answered somewhere else, but why is the layout of the elven tongue set so different from the one from the original Elvish keycap set thread? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38264.msg842147#msg842147 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38264.msg842147#msg842147) My elvish writing friend (don't we all have one of those?) can't make as much sense of the newer one and the keys don't rearrange well because of the secondary legends.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: xondat on Tue, 05 January 2016, 14:49:40
I'm looking at 15 kits then FML
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 05 January 2016, 14:59:43
I apologize if this has already been answered somewhere else, but why is the layout of the elven tongue set so different from the one from the original Elvish keycap set thread? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38264.msg842147#msg842147 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38264.msg842147#msg842147) My elvish writing friend (don't we all have one of those?) can't make as much sense of the newer one and the keys don't rearrange well because of the secondary legends.

the new Sindarin kit closely follows the standards of the tengwar TTFs you find around on the web. Basically it's easier to type in Sindarin this way.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: dorf on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:06:45
Granite R4 Beta 2.

Speak now! Don't come moaning when it's too late! :D

http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN (http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN)

Would it be possible to add a "ALT GRAPH" 1,25 to the text extreme modifiers kit?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:08:56
Granite R4 Beta 2.

Speak now! Don't come moaning when it's too late! :D

http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN (http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN)

Would it be possible to add a "ALT GRAPH" 1,25 to the text extreme modifiers kit?

you mean 2 alt gr total?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: dorf on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:15:08
Granite R4 Beta 2.

Speak now! Don't come moaning when it's too late! :D

http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN (http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN)

Would it be possible to add a "ALT GRAPH" 1,25 to the text extreme modifiers kit?

No, one 1,25. I would like "ALT GRAPH" instead of just "ALT GR". Some might prefer "ALT GR" though since it fits on one row. "ALT GRAPH" on 1,25 would have to be two rows.

you mean 2 alt gr total?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:30:55
oh okay. well c'mon, we already have alt gr, it would be a very small stilistic update
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Glenmael on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:33:35
I see no 'programmers' pack :(
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: skipped on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:38:28
It sucks for ergodox users who want the red escape key to have to buy the text mods set, I personally liked the separate kit last time.

Still working on the ergodox kit.... but don't you need the text mods anyway? (for arrows, ins, end, pgup/dn, etc...)

Will there be any changes to the Ergodoxian kit?  Have you given any thought about rotating the legends 90 degrees on the = and - keys?

As an addition to the blank pack or extra homing kit, can you add a color matched home row key with a homing bump?
http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-1-space-deep-dish-homing-bump-pack-of-4/ (http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-1-space-deep-dish-homing-bump-pack-of-4/)

I'm getting basically no feedback for the ergodox, so far it's just you who chimed in... so I guess it's okay as it is. No offence, but of course I can't change it every time one person asks.

I went with media keys instead of the text mods because it was less expensive, but I definitely would have liked to have the tenkeys.

I really like the current ergodox mockup with all the 1u keys. This would have been awesome to have when I bought mine.


Edit: that said, I've already bought my granite keys so I can't buy another set. If actual customers prefer a lower price it might be beneficial
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Dude on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:45:41
No comments on the keys. I'm pumped to buy way too many of these key packs.

I do have a layout recommendation. When you have a set of keys that comes in both text and icons (for example, text/icon mods), the icon keys should be in the same place as the text keys just for consistency.

For example, the icons in the "icon mods" pack bottom row should have the icons match the text pack of "Ctrl, super, alt, alt, etc...". This will make it easier for people like me to know what key each icon corresponds to.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: dohbot on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:49:25
I'd love a red icon and tex mod backspace.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 05 January 2016, 15:51:25
Perhaps consider these?

1. Cyrillic.
2. Windows 1.0 logo (http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/9/95/Windows_1.0_1985.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120901001847) to the Windows kit.
3. Beastie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon#/media/File:Bsd_daemon.jpg) to the Extra OS Kit.
4. Steam logo (http://cdn.flaticon.com/png/256/33578.png) to Bonus Pack.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: soilheart on Tue, 05 January 2016, 16:29:53
Would adding the missing True Fox keys to the normal modifiers kit raise the price too much? I'm probably getting the RGB kit to cover it anyway, but getting all True Fox modifiers without having to buy the pro modifier kit kinda makes sense to me (the drop being recent and all).
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 05 January 2016, 16:57:44
Perhaps consider these?

1. Cyrillic.
2. Windows 1.0 logo (http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/9/95/Windows_1.0_1985.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120901001847) to the Windows kit.
3. Beastie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon#/media/File:Bsd_daemon.jpg) to the Extra OS Kit.
4. Steam logo (http://cdn.flaticon.com/png/256/33578.png) to Bonus Pack.

1. limited edition, we already had that :P
2. that is actually a good idea
3. another great idea
4. I see licensing issues there...
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: soilheart on Tue, 05 January 2016, 17:06:53
Another suggestion on the whitefox theme: A complete whitefox kit (or is it an issue with having the same modifiers in the same kit?), preferably with the blue arrow keys included (and escape? don't remember).
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 05 January 2016, 17:09:02
1. Cyrillic.

1. limited edition, we already had that :P

Meaning this?
More
(http://i.imgur.com/hIxdaFE.jpg)
How about a cyrillic only set? Without latin legends.

4. Steam logo (http://cdn.flaticon.com/png/256/33578.png) to Bonus Pack.
4. I see licensing issues there...
Figured as much, too bad though.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: tDr1v3r on Tue, 05 January 2016, 17:15:29
Granite R4 Beta 2.

Speak now! Don't come moaning when it's too late! :D

http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN (http://imgur.com/a/sTbuN)

Great to see that you will bundle colored mods with the basic modifiers!

Btw you're still considering the DCS profile option, right? I'm not sure that a DSA set would be comfortable for me... but I guess I will order it anyways, this will be my last chance to buy the best looking caps for my (hopefully endgame) board.

Oh, I almost forgot: what about some volume control buttons for the secondary legends pack? If you want to cover everything with the pack...
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 05 January 2016, 17:22:02
Btw you're still considering the DCS profile option, right? I'm not sure that a DSA set would be comfortable for me... but I guess I will order it anyways, this will be my last chance to buy the best looking caps for my (hopefully endgame) board.

PBT DCS is really too thin, but I'm in talk for a cherry replica profile in PBT.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: mashby on Tue, 05 January 2016, 17:34:47
I have bought something from every Granite round and it looks as if I'll be buying more in this one as well. Love the Tengwar Sindarin, secondary legends and RGB(YO) sets.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ari on Tue, 05 January 2016, 19:17:51
I've got an ErgoDox, but I don't use DSA on it anymore.  Common + Ergodoxian + (Text|Icon) Pro Modifiers looks sufficient for a default layout (even though the default layout is awful).

That being said, what about using non-Apple symbols for ALT?  ⌥ means option in Unicode, not alternate. I'd personally love to see ⎇ used instead for the ALT key.

I really despise the red legends on the Tengwar Sindarin kit; is there any chance of removing them?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: neverused on Tue, 05 January 2016, 19:36:41
May I ask what color the Sindarin keys are? I want to purchase specific blanks from SP directly, but would like it all to match.

Thank you, awesome work on this.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: skipped on Tue, 05 January 2016, 20:04:39
May I ask what color the Sindarin keys are? I want to purchase specific blanks from SP directly, but would like it all to match.

Thank you, awesome work on this.

According to http://keypuller.com/granite/ the color is GKK
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: neverused on Tue, 05 January 2016, 20:08:28
May I ask what color the Sindarin keys are? I want to purchase specific blanks from SP directly, but would like it all to match.

Thank you, awesome work on this.

According to http://keypuller.com/granite/ the color is GKK
Thanks!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: switchnollie on Tue, 05 January 2016, 20:31:56
Perhaps consider these?

1. Cyrillic.
2. Windows 1.0 logo (http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/9/95/Windows_1.0_1985.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120901001847) to the Windows kit.
3. Beastie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon#/media/File:Bsd_daemon.jpg) to the Extra OS Kit.
4. Steam logo (http://cdn.flaticon.com/png/256/33578.png) to Bonus Pack.

I'm very interested in Cyrillic.

Those others would be a nice touch too :thumb:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Dude on Wed, 06 January 2016, 00:30:22
I saw on reddit that you're considering adding blue arrows in the bonus pack for us future whitefox owners. Would you consider also adding a blue escape key to complete the blue set?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 06 January 2016, 01:43:00
how do you feel if this time we make the Ergodox kit with ICONS instead of TEXT?!


Another suggestion on the whitefox theme: A complete whitefox kit (or is it an issue with having the same modifiers in the same kit?), preferably with the blue arrow keys included (and escape? don't remember).

we won't have a specific whitefox kit, but I added all the needed modifiers and the blue arrows/esc.

Oh, I almost forgot: what about some volume control buttons for the secondary legends pack? If you want to cover everything with the pack...

ala HHKB?

I saw on reddit that you're considering adding blue arrows in the bonus pack for us future whitefox owners. Would you consider also adding a blue escape key to complete the blue set?

yes they've been included.

May I ask what color the Sindarin keys are? I want to purchase specific blanks from SP directly, but would like it all to match.

confirmed GKK
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Wed, 06 January 2016, 04:54:25
The secondary legends set may be fitted with all the keys needed to make it a full alternate common set.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: f1xedgear on Wed, 06 January 2016, 08:54:26
how do you feel if this time we make the Ergodox kit with ICONS instead of TEXT?!

I don't (yet) have an ergodox, but my preference has always been for icon mods  :thumb:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: romevi on Wed, 06 January 2016, 09:11:32
how do you feel if this time we make the Ergodox kit with ICONS instead of TEXT?!

I don't (yet) have an ergodox, but my preference has always been for icon mods  :thumb:

Same. I love icons over text.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: soilheart on Wed, 06 January 2016, 10:10:48


Another suggestion on the whitefox theme: A complete whitefox kit (or is it an issue with having the same modifiers in the same kit?), preferably with the blue arrow keys included (and escape? don't remember).

we won't have a specific whitefox kit, but I added all the needed modifiers and the blue arrows/esc.

Ah, good. I'm content with that =)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: tDr1v3r on Wed, 06 January 2016, 16:56:06
Oh, I almost forgot: what about some volume control buttons for the secondary legends pack? If you want to cover everything with the pack...

ala HHKB?
Yes.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 06 January 2016, 17:05:43
Whelp, this is amazing. I wonder if my accountant will buy the "I need all this **** to be more productive" excuse. Very much looking forward to this drop.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: cheddarbek on Wed, 06 January 2016, 17:28:54
No multimedia keys this time round? Or did I miss that?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 06 January 2016, 22:33:34
No multimedia keys this time round? Or did I miss that?

yeah we dropped that this time
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ika on Wed, 06 January 2016, 23:00:17
Is the Gamer set dropped too? I'd like to see the red WASD that was only offered in R1 (to my knowledge - never on MD) to come back.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: cheddarbek on Wed, 06 January 2016, 23:18:38
Is the Gamer set dropped too? I'd like to see the red WASD that was only offered in R1 (to my knowledge - never on MD) to come back.

+1

Or some colored arrow keys. I need a bit more color in my life.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: diriel on Wed, 06 January 2016, 23:32:36
Another kit I'm evaluating.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SL5Z9e1.png)



I would very much like to see this kit.

On the Sindarin, I would vastly prefer a sendarin pure set, no English "cheat" subs printed on them.

You are really putting a hurt to my mad money fund...!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 07 January 2016, 01:38:50
Is the Gamer set dropped too? I'd like to see the red WASD that was only offered in R1 (to my knowledge - never on MD) to come back.

I added back some WASD and colored arrows in the bonus pack.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Delete on Thu, 07 January 2016, 02:25:22
hi   matt3o
 
please   add  the  cat  to  bouns pack

windowed kit  is  no longer to  have ? :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: kaiwwww on Thu, 07 January 2016, 02:34:27

you damn **** run f**king granite forth,why skull squadron wont run bull **** again
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Glenmael on Thu, 07 January 2016, 02:55:56

you damn **** run f**king granite forth,why skull squadron wont run bull **** again

Easy tiger.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 07 January 2016, 03:04:33
hi   matt3o
 
please   add  the  cat  to  bouns pack

cat key was a limited edition done for my wife :) never gonna happen again
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: abyx on Thu, 07 January 2016, 04:21:45
How about the hacker emblem?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: pomk on Thu, 07 January 2016, 12:19:06
Any chance of adding the pipe/slash key to the elven set? Seems a bit silly to buy the base set for just one key and spacebar (and the function keys if you go full size), which you can buy separately anyway. Or is it supposed to go with the HHKB backspace :) ?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 07 January 2016, 12:34:42
Any chance of adding the pipe/slash key to the elven set? Seems a bit silly to buy the base set for just one key and spacebar (and the function keys if you go full size), which you can buy separately anyway. Or is it supposed to go with the HHKB backspace :) ?

have to check with massdrop on that.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Thu, 07 January 2016, 16:48:17
Is there a final design defined already? Are you gonna share it here, or we should wait for MD to post the drop?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: dohbot on Thu, 07 January 2016, 16:49:45
What about a red backspace key in icon and text extra packs?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 08 January 2016, 01:39:15
Is there a final design defined already? Are you gonna share it here, or we should wait for MD to post the drop?

I'm still waiting for the quote from SP. With that we will make some adjustments and publish the final design.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Fri, 08 January 2016, 07:35:15
Is there a final design defined already? Are you gonna share it here, or we should wait for MD to post the drop?

I'm still waiting for the quote from SP. With that we will make some adjustments and publish the final design.

Awesome, thank you for the answer.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Fri, 08 January 2016, 08:15:07
If you don't want to go with the number row on the original 'secondary' mock up:

(http://i.imgur.com/SL5Z9e1.png)

Can you consider making the number row the same style as these? Centred lower legend with split upper legends:

(http://i.imgur.com/hIxdaFE.jpg)

The design from the imgur album, with the empty space on the top right quarter, makes my skin itch  :p

(http://i.imgur.com/QS0KjmL.png)

In my opinion on this style of number row:
It will look strange if you wanted to mix them with any of the international number row keys (which have centred primary legends and secondary legends off to the side).
If will look strange if you wanted to mix them the included numpad secondary legends.
There is no 'offset' version of the backslash key, so it would look strange with a split backspace layout (on the HHKB layout backslash has a secondary function on insert, tilde has the function of delete).
Basically, style wise they are not mix and match like all the other secondary legend keys  :(   
The ability to use a mix of kits to fill out any keyboard, due to the uniform profile and aesthetics, is one of the biggest achievements of the granite set  :)

Just my 2 cents  :thumb:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Jedi on Fri, 08 January 2016, 08:43:20
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/hIxdaFE.jpg)


That is beautiful, may I ask what keyboard you used for those awesome keys.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Fri, 08 January 2016, 09:55:57
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/hIxdaFE.jpg)


That is beautiful, may I ask what keyboard you used for those awesome keys.
That's one of Matt3o's personal custom builds.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 08 January 2016, 11:26:30
If I already have a granite set, if I just get some add on sets, will they still match?

I don't know if a slightly different pbt color is being used.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 08 January 2016, 11:41:52
If I already have a granite set, if I just get some add on sets, will they still match?

I don't know if a slightly different pbt color is being used.

They'll match.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ddot on Fri, 08 January 2016, 11:43:47
Will there be any changes to the Ergodoxian kit?  Have you given any thought about rotating the legends 90 degrees on the = and - keys?

I second some additional 1.5u keys being rotated 90 degrees.  With 4 of those rotated 1.5u spots and only 4 keys with rotated legends, your options are limited.  Everyone is going to have different layouts, but the =+ and -_ are probably as good a candidates as any.

While I'm dreaming, including the 1.5u backspace key may be useful for those that don't map the backspace into their thumb cluster.

Also, any chance on the cut/copy/paste keys making a return?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: OneDudeWolfPack on Fri, 08 January 2016, 13:36:25
Will there be any changes to the Ergodoxian kit?  Have you given any thought about rotating the legends 90 degrees on the = and - keys?

I second some additional 1.5u keys being rotated 90 degrees.  With 4 of those rotated 1.5u spots and only 4 keys with rotated legends, your options are limited.  Everyone is going to have different layouts, but the =+ and -_ are probably as good a candidates as any.

While I'm dreaming, including the 1.5u backspace key may be useful for those that don't map the backspace into their thumb cluster.

Also, any chance on the cut/copy/paste keys making a return?

I like the undo/cut/copy/paste keys as well on my blank Ergodox.  Kinda wanted to add some color to them this round.

@Matt3o: was there any reason why the Text RGB kit doesn't have a Green Shift in 1.5u/1u and Red Control in 1u?  Not trying to get overboard, but just noticed that when I pulled out my baggies from Round 2 or 3.  With the new Planck (Grid type) keyboards have any of  those users asked for those keys in RGB?


(http://i.imgur.com/4lJHug0.jpg)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 08 January 2016, 16:09:20
if it were for me I would put every possible key combination. I think that if you can spend $150-200 in a keyset you can spend $200-250 and have it perfect.

That being said I understand that we have to keep the price down as much as possible, so adding an infinite number of combinations is not actually possible.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Arcoril on Fri, 08 January 2016, 18:39:09
Looking good! But would it be possible to add 1u modifiers to the RGB pack (or maybe a separate pack) for us color coordinated WhiteFox/Planck/JD40/Ergodox users?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: UTEster750 on Sun, 10 January 2016, 00:18:55
if it were for me I would put every possible key combination. I think that if you can spend $150-200 in a keyset you can spend $200-250 and have it perfect.

That being said I understand that we have to keep the price down as much as possible, so adding an infinite number of combinations is not actually possible.

Will SP do single order sets?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 10 January 2016, 01:09:15
we've got pricing! Now few updates and I'll post the final version.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Zapheo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 02:51:49
we've got pricing! Now few updates and I'll post the final version.

Hey Matt3o when is the gb going live?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 10 January 2016, 04:27:18
we've got pricing! Now few updates and I'll post the final version.

Hey Matt3o when is the gb going live?

as soon as the MD page is ready, this week for sure
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Zorberema on Sun, 10 January 2016, 04:36:17
we've got pricing! Now few updates and I'll post the final version.

Hey Matt3o when is the gb going live?

as soon as the MD page is ready, this week for sure

This week as before monday or before next sunday? :P
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Kibort on Sun, 10 January 2016, 04:56:44
can't study properly because i'm watching the massdrop page constantly :p
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: UTEster750 on Sun, 10 January 2016, 04:57:58
can't study properly because i'm watching the massdrop page constantly :p

The drop will be up for a few days so you can relax for a bit  :p
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 10 January 2016, 09:14:05
This week as before monday or before next sunday? :P

this coming week if your week starts on Monday. This week if it starts the wrong day.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: yoobe on Sun, 10 January 2016, 10:03:46
I personnaly like one color for all F-Keys. What about a pack to have all grey or white F-Keys?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 10 January 2016, 10:51:17
I personnaly like one color for all F-Keys. What about a pack to have all grey or white F-Keys?

YES! that has been included in the bonus pack!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Zapheo on Sun, 10 January 2016, 18:30:02
we've got pricing! Now few updates and I'll post the final version.

Hey Matt3o when is the gb going live?

as soon as the MD page is ready, this week for sure

Will it still be live by this coming Friday?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: cryptokey on Sun, 10 January 2016, 19:53:04
Will we ever stop asking you when it will be live?  ;)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Sun, 10 January 2016, 19:55:18
Will we ever stop asking you when it will be live?  ;)

Of course, it will stop when the drop becomes live.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: romevi on Sun, 10 January 2016, 23:21:12
Will we ever stop asking you when it will be live?  ;)

Of course, it will stop when the drop becomes live.

Wa, wa.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: BigDov on Mon, 11 January 2016, 00:34:01
How do you feel about this:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/82DYwwf.png)


The RGB could be something like this, but I have to check on pricing first.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SCCXqpl.png)


Beautiful!!! My ergodox is screaming for that......great great GREAT combo!

edit: I think a 1.5 backspace key would finish off the ergodox set as well, maybe I'm in the minority in that, but I like my backspace on my pinky :)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 11 January 2016, 02:19:22
edit: I think a 1.5 backspace key would finish off the ergodox set as well, maybe I'm in the minority in that, but I like my backspace on my pinky :)

in which orientation?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: BigDov on Mon, 11 January 2016, 10:17:51
edit: I think a 1.5 backspace key would finish off the ergodox set as well, maybe I'm in the minority in that, but I like my backspace on my pinky :)

in which orientation?

Horizontal, so I could place it over at the end of the top or second from the top row. If not possible, not a huge deal, I could always place a blank there.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 11 January 2016, 10:21:21
can you show me some pictures or introduce me to some users who use that key in that orientation?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: BigDov on Mon, 11 January 2016, 10:40:33
:) like I said, I could be a minority! I will see what I can find and post here.... but, a blank pack solves this for me just as well, or I learn a more "standard" ergodox layout.

edit: there are a couple on this page, actually some of the first boards I was tempted by when getting into an ergodox  http://xahlee.info/kbd/ergodox_keyboard.html
edit2: a couple here, too  http://keypuller.com/granite/
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 11 January 2016, 10:54:27
:) like I said, I could be a minority! I will see what I can find and post here.... but, a blank pack solves this for me just as well, or I learn a more "standard" ergodox layout.

edit: there are a couple on this page, actually some of the first boards I was tempted by when getting into an ergodox  http://xahlee.info/kbd/ergodox_keyboard.html
edit2: a couple here, too  http://keypuller.com/granite/

okay, sold. Let's see if I can fit it...

EDIT: actually... you would need the pro-modifiers anyway for ctrl/alt, so I am not so sure the "back space" is really needed in the ergodox kit
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: BigDov on Mon, 11 January 2016, 12:50:35

okay, sold. Let's see if I can fit it...

EDIT: actually... you would need the pro-modifiers anyway for ctrl/alt, so I am not so sure the "back space" is really needed in the ergodox kit

that sounds good to me Matt3o, I can adjust easily... in fact, that has made me go back and evaluate the layout. Another pack to solve this isn't the end of the world to me. Thanks!!

edit: I just went back and looked at the imgur album again, I must have missed the 1.5 backspace in the pro-modifier pack completely! Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 11 January 2016, 13:00:34
few updates.

the ANSI legends on the sindarin kit are way smaller now. The secondary legend kit has a more pleasant number row. The bonus pack has some extras. Monolegend has | and _. Extra homing got a 5.

(http://i.imgur.com/IgrprhW.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/S62QFUu.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/ud7oLRO.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/q5GIAeQ.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/InT33xF.png)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 11 January 2016, 13:04:50
few updates.

the ANSI legends on the sindarin kit are way smaller now. The secondary legend kit has a more pleasant number row. The bonus pack has some extras. Monolegend has | and _. Extra homing got a 5.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/IgrprhW.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/S62QFUu.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ud7oLRO.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/q5GIAeQ.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/InT33xF.png)


Those elves and their fancy alphabets. I'm going to guess it's LotR Elvish, right?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 11 January 2016, 13:05:31
Those elves and their fancy alphabets. I'm going to guess it's LotR Elvish, right?

it is, yes.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: thaddeus on Mon, 11 January 2016, 14:03:03
The number row (secondary pack) looks way better like this.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 11 January 2016, 14:04:23
The secondary legend kit has a more pleasant number row.

No more complaints from me, I promise ;D I'm now ready to hand over all my money  :thumb:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: BigDov on Mon, 11 January 2016, 16:46:33

No more complaints from me, I promise ;D I'm now ready to hand over all my money  :thumb:

Same here, this is looking pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Delete on Mon, 11 January 2016, 19:04:50
this  time ,the   6u  Spacebar  is  dropped,  how  i  should  use  on  cherry G80-  1865,1869&1808 keyboards? 
   please 
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Mon, 11 January 2016, 20:20:19
Secondary legend makes it for me.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 11 January 2016, 20:29:55
this  time ,the   6u  Spacebar  is  dropped,  how  i  should  use  on  cherry G80-  1865,1869&1808 keyboards? 
   please

I think this is what you need

Quote from: Pimp My Keyboard
6 SPACE GRAY (GKK) : http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-spacebars-pack-of-1/
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: QuickDelat on Tue, 12 January 2016, 06:09:05
and it's on Massdrop https://www.massdrop.com/buy/granite-keycap-set?mode=guest_open (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/granite-keycap-set?mode=guest_open)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 12 January 2016, 07:21:28
and it's on Massdrop https://www.massdrop.com/buy/granite-keycap-set?mode=guest_open (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/granite-keycap-set?mode=guest_open)
Awesome!

Secondary kit and ISO enter ordered
This is the third round of Granite I've spend money on haha.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Brammm87 on Tue, 12 January 2016, 07:22:59
My first round. The MD order form is a pain if you want to get lots of extras. Anyway... 300$ later... Let's hope my accountant believes the "I need this for work" spiel.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Tue, 12 January 2016, 07:25:16
It already has over three hundred orders, awesome. Where are the layouts for the sets?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 12 January 2016, 07:32:43
It already has over two hundred orders, awesome.

This may be the buy of the year.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: 1deeg on Tue, 12 January 2016, 08:02:10
My first round. The MD order form is a pain if you want to get lots of extras. Anyway... 300$ later... Let's hope my accountant believes the "I need this for work" spiel.

So many people with accountants..  :cool:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 12 January 2016, 08:06:13
(http://puu.sh/msVEv/50ce78484a.png)

RIP wallet once again. I think I need a proxy for this, otherwise I'll end up paying $100 in customs.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: joey on Tue, 12 January 2016, 08:08:33
Didn't think you were a fan of DSA Photekq.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 12 January 2016, 08:13:04
Didn't think you were a fan of DSA Photekq.
I've never tried it! If it weren't for Sindarin I don't think I would've bought anything from this GB.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 12 January 2016, 08:18:35
It already has over three hundred orders, awesome. Where are the layouts for the sets?

I'm pretty sure the Massdrop counts 'kits sold' not orders. Still, off to a good start  :thumb:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: romevi on Tue, 12 January 2016, 10:07:41
Is the Common Kit's space bar 6.25u?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Zambumon on Tue, 12 January 2016, 10:09:55
Is the Common Kit's space bar 6.25u?

Yes
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: romevi on Tue, 12 January 2016, 10:14:47
Is the Common Kit's space bar 6.25u?

Yes

That's what I thought but wanted to make sure before ordering one. I'll stick with just the one since it's PBT.
First Granite set = Common Kit + Elven Tongue + Icon Mods + RGB(YO) Icon Mods + Numpad + Bonus + 7u space bar.
Whew.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: cryptokey on Tue, 12 January 2016, 10:17:58
Awesome, I'm in for base + text mods + pro mods + bonus pack RIP  :confused:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: thaddeus on Tue, 12 January 2016, 13:32:42
base + icon mods + text rgbyo + blank. Let's do it!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Diokhan on Tue, 12 January 2016, 14:14:28
It's a shame that the elvish cant replace the base kit fully :(
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Zapheo on Tue, 12 January 2016, 14:56:16
Already put my order in, but thinking about putting in for more. Just to confirm, MD takes the funds once the drop ends, correct? Not when I place my order?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: FuriousGeorge on Tue, 12 January 2016, 15:01:23
Already put my order in, but thinking about putting in for more. Just to confirm, MD takes the funds once the drop ends, correct? Not when I place my order?

That's how it's worked in the past. I used to use the bitcoin option to make sure, but it looks like they no longer have that available.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Brammm87 on Tue, 12 January 2016, 15:11:38
Already put my order in, but thinking about putting in for more. Just to confirm, MD takes the funds once the drop ends, correct? Not when I place my order?

Yeah, because the price might go down.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Zapheo on Tue, 12 January 2016, 15:25:30
Cool. Thanks for the responses guys.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: romevi on Tue, 12 January 2016, 15:32:33
Already put my order in, but thinking about putting in for more. Just to confirm, MD takes the funds once the drop ends, correct? Not when I place my order?

Yeah, because the price might go down.

Pretty sure the prices have hit rock-bottom by now.
Unless Md contacts SP to work out additional drop points.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: DAVYtm on Tue, 12 January 2016, 16:14:58
My order is at like $250 right now, need to cut some packs out...
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 12 January 2016, 16:33:05
My order is at like $250 right now, need to cut some packs out...

Protip: cutting packs leads to camping in the classifieds.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Zambumon on Tue, 12 January 2016, 17:16:34
My order is at like $250 right now, need to cut some packs out...

Protip: cutting packs leads to camping in the classifieds.

That's why I decided to pick the Pro mods, homing and ISO, which cover my Spanish Ducky Mini and the Aria White Fox but you never know!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 12 January 2016, 17:32:40
Already put my order in, but thinking about putting in for more. Just to confirm, MD takes the funds once the drop ends, correct? Not when I place my order?

Yeah, because the price might go down.

Pretty sure the prices have hit rock-bottom by now.
Unless Md contacts SP to work out additional drop points.

some kits might still go a bit down
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: xondat on Tue, 12 January 2016, 17:53:05
Think my friend spent over $300 :))
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Tue, 12 January 2016, 18:00:17
I really, really wanted to buy this set because of the Tengwar set. Not gonna happen if I have to buy 3-4 other sets just to complete my keyboard and end up with loads of useless keycaps.

And it is DSA, which I despise.

sigh

I hope everyone that buy this set will be satisfied. I will let it pass.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: vandread on Tue, 12 January 2016, 20:56:25
I did join the last drop (3rd Granite drop) and ordered lot of caps:
I love Granite and will ever love it! (: Due to some problems with the printing I had to send all my caps back and I am now waiting for the replacement... I was looking forward to order in this round the Secondary Legends kit, but sadly it does not match with the Poker 2... ):

Anyway... Thanks Matt3o for such a great set! I really hope this is not the last time we see the Granite set!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Jedi on Tue, 12 January 2016, 21:15:29
I did join the last drop (3rd Granite drop) and ordered lot of caps
Anyway... Thanks Matt3o for such a great set! I really hope this is not the last time we see the Granite set!

Welcome to GeekHack! 
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Glenmael on Tue, 12 January 2016, 21:57:29
Alright! jumped on quite a few kits :)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: cflee on Wed, 13 January 2016, 00:30:53
Any chance of adding the pipe/slash key to the elven set? Seems a bit silly to buy the base set for just one key and spacebar (and the function keys if you go full size), which you can buy separately anyway. Or is it supposed to go with the HHKB backspace :) ?

have to check with massdrop on that.

Matt3o, just to check, is the pipe/slash key still being considered for the Elven Tongue kit?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 13 January 2016, 04:23:41
kits as set in... granite :P

but we'll have a price drop in few hours... and possibly another if the drop is super successful.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: xondat on Wed, 13 January 2016, 04:33:48
kits as set in... granite :P

but we'll have a price drop in few hours... and possibly another if the drop is super successful.

I might be able to buy a couple kits in that case :blank:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: salasource on Wed, 13 January 2016, 08:04:46
kits as set in... granite :P

but we'll have a price drop in few hours... and possibly another if the drop is super successful.
Looking forward to :p
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: thaddeus on Wed, 13 January 2016, 11:01:23
but we'll have a price drop in few hours... and possibly another if the drop is super successful.

Would the price listing on the "Transactions" page simply change with the price drop? Doesn't look like it has yet. Here's to hoping  ;D
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Zambumon on Wed, 13 January 2016, 11:20:24
kits as set in... granite :P

but we'll have a price drop in few hours... and possibly another if the drop is super successful.

I might be able to buy a couple kits in that case :blank:

Or pay less customs T.T
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Jedi on Wed, 13 January 2016, 11:36:51
Would the price listing on the "Transactions" page simply change with the price drop? Doesn't look like it has yet. Here's to hoping  ;D

Yes, the price will change in the transactions page and will update your order automatically before the drop closes and before you are charged the drop price.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Dude on Wed, 13 January 2016, 11:50:16
Would the price listing on the "Transactions" page simply change with the price drop? Doesn't look like it has yet. Here's to hoping  ;D

Yes, the price will change in the transactions page and will update your order automatically before the drop closes and before you are charged the drop price.

Just keep in mind that if you paid with PayPal, your payment will be rejected at the end of the drop since the charge amount changed. It's not a huge deal since you'll be notified immediately and you'll have 24 hours to re-authorize payment with the new amount.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Steezus on Wed, 13 January 2016, 12:41:28
Would the price listing on the "Transactions" page simply change with the price drop? Doesn't look like it has yet. Here's to hoping  ;D

Yes, the price will change in the transactions page and will update your order automatically before the drop closes and before you are charged the drop price.

Just keep in mind that if you paid with PayPal, your payment will be rejected at the end of the drop since the charge amount changed. It's not a huge deal since you'll be notified immediately and you'll have 24 hours to re-authorize payment with the new amount.

That's why MD doesn't charge you until the drop ends.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 13 January 2016, 13:02:07
Would the price listing on the "Transactions" page simply change with the price drop? Doesn't look like it has yet. Here's to hoping  ;D

Yes, the price will change in the transactions page and will update your order automatically before the drop closes and before you are charged the drop price.

Just keep in mind that if you paid with PayPal, your payment will be rejected at the end of the drop since the charge amount changed. It's not a huge deal since you'll be notified immediately and you'll have 24 hours to re-authorize payment with the new amount.

the payment is rejected only if the charged value is higher than the original.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: thaddeus on Wed, 13 January 2016, 14:57:02
Would the price listing on the "Transactions" page simply change with the price drop? Doesn't look like it has yet. Here's to hoping  ;D

Yes, the price will change in the transactions page and will update your order automatically before the drop closes and before you are charged the drop price.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: whmeltonjr on Wed, 13 January 2016, 15:31:25
So many orders! I'm thinking about picking up a second set. I sold the first one I had because I couldn't deal with DSA, but I just love the design so much I think I'll be disappointed if I don't get a set from the final round.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 13 January 2016, 17:13:24
price drop!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: romevi on Wed, 13 January 2016, 17:24:37
price drop!

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: BigDov on Wed, 13 January 2016, 19:33:13
Wow, this gb is going bonkers!!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: vandread on Thu, 14 January 2016, 05:42:37
Matt3o, the ruler of MD... (:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Glenmael on Thu, 14 January 2016, 06:01:18
price drop!

<3
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 14 January 2016, 09:32:03
The rationale behind the Elven kit http://matt3o.com/granite-elven-kit-explained/
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: mashby on Thu, 14 January 2016, 09:59:15
The rationale behind the Elven kit http://matt3o.com/granite-elven-kit-explained/

Great blog. What are you using (besides rebels) for the backend?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 14 January 2016, 10:17:57
The rationale behind the Elven kit http://matt3o.com/granite-elven-kit-explained/

Great blog. What are you using (besides rebels) for the backend?

you mean as platform? An incredibly stripped down Wordpress.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: romevi on Thu, 14 January 2016, 10:30:50
The rationale behind the Elven kit http://matt3o.com/granite-elven-kit-explained/

Great blog. What are you using (besides rebels) for the backend?

you mean as platform? An incredibly stripped down Wordpress.

It looks very clean and enhances the reading experience.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 14 January 2016, 11:14:47

It looks very clean and enhances the reading experience.

thanks, after looking for one thousand lame WP themes I decided it was time to build my own :P
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Steezus on Thu, 14 January 2016, 11:32:21
Great read Matt3o, I'm debating now if I should pick up two sets of the Elven Tongue Kit. :thumb:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: FLFisherman on Thu, 14 January 2016, 11:36:30
Great read Matt3o, I'm debating now if I should pick up two sets of the Elven Tongue Kit. :thumb:

Only two?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Steezus on Thu, 14 January 2016, 11:40:31
Great read Matt3o, I'm debating now if I should pick up two sets of the Elven Tongue Kit. :thumb:

Only two?

I already have more keysets than boards. :p

I could pick up three at the max, that would then be one for myself, one for my brother, and one for my father. However DSA isn't the best type of profile for typing so I'm sure my father would not enjoy it.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: tDr1v3r on Thu, 14 January 2016, 12:58:39
Great to see that the base mods (Icons in my case) will include a 1.25u Shift key. One less reason to get a Pro Mods kit for my crazy ISO-ANSI hybrid layout...

But I still think that the Secondary Legends pack should be sold without the numpad... I think that now, after the drop hit almost 3k purchases the numpad could still hit the MOQ easily as a separate child deal.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 14 January 2016, 13:20:21
Great to see that the base mods (Icons in my case) will include a 1.25u Shift key. One less reason to get a Pro Mods kit for my crazy ISO-ANSI hybrid layout...

But I still think that the Secondary Legends pack should be sold without the numpad... I think that now, after the drop hit almost 3k purchases the numpad could still hit the MOQ easily as a separate child deal.

Unfortunately we don't have a crystal ball, I estimated 500 common kits sold and we are hitting 1000 in less than 48h... If I knew...
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Steezus on Thu, 14 January 2016, 13:22:12
Great to see that the base mods (Icons in my case) will include a 1.25u Shift key. One less reason to get a Pro Mods kit for my crazy ISO-ANSI hybrid layout...

But I still think that the Secondary Legends pack should be sold without the numpad... I think that now, after the drop hit almost 3k purchases the numpad could still hit the MOQ easily as a separate child deal.

Secondary Legends only has 58 orders. The number Massdrop gives is all the kits that have been ordered, so that doesn't mean that 3k people joined in on the buy. http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/granite/index.html
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Dude on Thu, 14 January 2016, 15:20:45
Secondary Legends only has 58 orders. The number Massdrop gives is all the kits that have been ordered, so that doesn't mean that 3k people joined in on the buy. http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/granite/index.html

Those numbers haven't been updated since the price drop last night. I've been watching the number sold for the common kit, and it still shows 682 sold.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: tDr1v3r on Sat, 16 January 2016, 18:31:13
I've just ordered the the Common kit + Icon mods + Apple kit + Secondary legends pack. It will be my first custom keyset... hopefully without damages and such. I'm really afraid of SP and their QC.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Sat, 16 January 2016, 21:43:54
I've just ordered the the Common kit + Icon mods + Apple kit + Secondary legends pack. It will be my first custom keyset... hopefully without damages and such. I'm really afraid of SP and their QC.

I am afraid your fears are justified.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 18 January 2016, 20:33:28
(http://puu.sh/mANHi/ad657c9e70.jpg)

 :eek:
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 19 January 2016, 03:39:34
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/mANHi/ad657c9e70.jpg)


 :eek:

True dedication!

Or insanity ...
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:07:19
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/mANHi/ad657c9e70.jpg)


 :eek:

I can think on a handful options to get use of that "budget" but, I single set?
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: romevi on Tue, 19 January 2016, 08:23:38
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/mANHi/ad657c9e70.jpg)


 :eek:

This is why I don't own any credit cards.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 19 January 2016, 11:49:47
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/mANHi/ad657c9e70.jpg)


 :eek:

This is why I don't own any credit cards.

With the boards that he has and sells, he gots the monies. ;)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Zapheo on Tue, 19 January 2016, 11:57:25
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/mANHi/ad657c9e70.jpg)


 :eek:

Holy... I think I'm good with 2 sets... I hope...
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: MassdropAlex on Tue, 19 January 2016, 16:48:33
Got some cool samples today courtesy of Melissa(Thanks!). Thought you guys might want to get a looksee
[attach=1]

Ps. Ignore the weird thumb cluster and modifier caps. Not sure what these monsters did to my Ergodox while I was out of the office.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: jerue on Tue, 19 January 2016, 17:05:50
Got some cool samples today courtesy of Melissa(Thanks!). Thought you guys might want to get a looksee
(Attachment Link)

Ps. Ignore the weird thumb cluster and modifier caps. Not sure what these monsters did to my Ergodox while I was out of the office.

This picture tickles me in all of the right places.

Elven kit looks really good. Guess I will order even if it means the later batch.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 19 January 2016, 17:23:15
won't be better than sex, but surely lasts longer(tm)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Tue, 19 January 2016, 17:26:07
won't be better than sex, but surely lasts longer(tm)

 :-\
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: jerue on Tue, 19 January 2016, 17:48:23
won't be better than sex, but surely lasts longer(tm)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZPXIw.jpg)
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: romevi on Tue, 19 January 2016, 17:49:52
won't be better than sex, but surely lasts longer(tm)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ZPXIw.jpg)


lol, never saw that top left dog or cat.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: WNovizar on Wed, 20 January 2016, 01:07:00
Hi People,

I missed this drop Batch One, so I'm thinking to buy "Think Different" Standard Modifier Keyset over @PMK (I'm purchasing their 6u spacebar anyway). Does the grey color of "Think Different" Standard Modifier Keyset look exactly the same as this Keyset?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 20 January 2016, 06:58:20
Damn the blue and red look amazing. Very much looking forward to this set.And plonking them on the Whitefox. Patience really is a virtue.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 26 January 2016, 03:24:36
last few hours!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: WNovizar on Tue, 26 January 2016, 22:10:19
I finally done with my order, and somehow all of them in batch one :D.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 27 January 2016, 06:28:55
Time to kiss Granite goodbye!
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Diokhan on Wed, 27 January 2016, 06:31:25
Nice amount of sales!
Really looking forward to receiving this and the whitefox :D
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 27 January 2016, 06:51:37
Nice amount of sales!
Really looking forward to receiving this and the whitefox :D

So. Freaking. Long.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Diokhan on Wed, 27 January 2016, 07:05:03
Nice amount of sales!
Really looking forward to receiving this and the whitefox :D

So. Freaking. Long.

We need to be patient  ^-^
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: ideus on Wed, 27 January 2016, 07:22:11
Congratulations on a very successful drop and the fourth round of Granite, now pretty much everybody had tried the set, and this time, over 1k more full sets were sold. Maybe one of the best selling sets of all times.
Title: Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Post by: Brammm87 on Wed, 27 January 2016, 13:44:42
Nice amount of sales!
Really looking forward to receiving this and the whitefox :D

So. Freaking. Long.

We need to be patient  ^-^

I'm satisfying my cravings by getting classifieds.