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[IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60% -- GB POST LIVE
« on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 19:29:00 »

LEVIATÁN

Plateless, PCB-mounted leaf-spring 60%


GB POST
CannonKeys Landing Page


       

DETAILS AND TECHNICAL INFORMATION
  • Materials: Copper weight, aluminum top/bottom
  • Mounting style: Plateless, leaf-spring gasket, Top mount
  • Case top layout options: WKL, HHKB, and WK
  • Typing angle: 9 degrees
  • Front height: 17.5 mm, adjusted front height 18.5 mm
  • Weight: ~2.4 kg built (plateless) ~2.6 kg built (top mount)
  • Dimensions: 295.70 mm x 116.826 mm
  • 30A hardness, 1.5 mm Poron gaskets
  • AKB adhesive feet, available at CannonKeys
  • M3x10 front screws, M3x12 back screws
  • Leaf spring PCB (PCB mount) and standard PCB (top mount)
  • Fly DB, with Molex-to-Molex cable
  • Link to PCB compat

     

Exploded view of internals

Note: Rubber feet have been changed, top-mount posts added

DETAILS ON MOUNTING STYLES

As it was said above you will be able to mount the board either top mount, or PCB mount. Top mount is pretty self explanatory. I was asked for a more traditionally sounding and feeling mounting for the board and top mount was the obvious candidate. As for PCB mount, this is where things get interesting:

During my testing as well as all 40 participants of R0 we concluded that for some, the alphas sounded great but the mods were lacking a bit. Especially those who tend to prefer deeper sounding mods. What we did was try half plates. This allows us to keep the same tone on the alphas, and make the mods sound fuller, like a more traditional mounting style.

     

What the hell is a support plate?

The support plate is just a straightforward tray-style plate that goes over the PCB mount PCB to tune the feel of the board. Basically there are 4 levels of flex:

  • Completely plateless
  • PCB mount with POM half plate
  • PCB mount with Aluminum half plate
  • PCB mount with Carbon fiber half plate

The aim of this is to allow people to tune the overall feel of the board, as well as the sound of the mods to their personal preference. Those who want a traditional board, can just build it top mount. I have spent hours testing, building and rebuilding my prototype with different plates and I have not had this much fun in a hot minute. Plate files will also be released so people can go ham customizing their boards.  :thumb:

CHANGE LOG FROM R0

From R0 to R1 there are some changes being made:
  • Rubber feet go from round bump-ons to AKB square feet. See renders for details
  • Top mount compatibility was added, due to popular demand


RENDERS Renders by Zetina

   

   

   

PHOTOGRAPHS Thanks to Peppy for the photos  ;D
NOTE: The rubber feet have been changed to AKB feet. No longer using round ones. They will be available at CannonKeys to buy as replacements
NOTE2: These are photos of the silver unit, externally nothing changed for R1 so please use these to appreciate the external aesthetics.

   

   

   


SALE INFORMATION
  • Soft-capped open Group-Buy. Tentatively July 1st 2023
  • MSRP: Starting at $375 for anodized gray version, $380 for powder coated beige
  • Only 2 colors will be made: beige and dark gray, both with copper weights
  • Price for top-mount kit and all other accessories is being calculated. We want to make sure it's as well priced as we can. All plates sold will be ANSI only but the PCBs support ISO.

IMPORTANT NOTE

Building on this: EloquentClicks as the European Vendor will be offering ISO plates for top mount and/or support plates for PCB mount. These will be completely separate from the group-buy and will not be available in other regions, only at EloquentClicks. They will still ship with the Group Buy but they are limited to European sales, since that is where people who use ISO will order from.
STREAMS AND OTHER MEDIA

The team at CannonKeys are hard at work planning and scheduling streams with your favorite content creators. Schedule with each one to be released soon! Photos of the color samples we have from CannonKeys will also be posted soon.

Regional Vendors
  • United States: CannonKeys
  • Canada: DeskHero
  • Europe: EloquentClicks
  • United Kingdom: ProtoTypist
  • China/Asia: ZFrontier
  • Singapore: Hex Keyboards
  • Latin America: LatamKeys
  • Australia/Oceania: DailyClack
There will be more regional vendors the crew at CannonKeys are working on finalizing information.

CONTACT

My discord server
CannonKeys Discord server

Most updates will be posted on my server, as well as distributed by CannonKeys via their newsletter. Additionally when the GB details are finalized I will create a new GB post on here. Until that post is live all information presented here is subject to change.


SPECIAL THANKS

This project would not have been possible without the members of my discord server. From taking part in both private group buys to helping me polish and refine any design I come up with. Thank you!!
Special thanks to Chonk, for supporting me blindly; Peppy for putting up with my bull**** and Manu for yelling at me here and there.
And obviously Zetina, for the amazing renders.
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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 19:29:55 »
RESERVED  :p

November 17th Update :


Overall project updates:
  • Beige prototype has arrived, I have built it and all tolerances are perfect, will upload pictures of internals within the coming days (not home for thanksgiving break)
  • R0 units are expected early December, once they arrive and I have completed QC the sale for the extras will happen.
  • Discussion with vendors is ongoing, but EU/NA have been agreed, information to follow.
  • I have added a Topre drop-in kit for Leviatán. Both MX and Topre will be supported with the same case. MX will be plateless as originally intended Topre will be top mount with an FR4 plate.

December 5th update

All the closed group buy units have shipped to me, I should be receiving them this week. Once I have quality checked them all I will compile a list of the available extra units to be sold. Because I do not have the infrastructure to use fancy raffle sites I will just compile the entries on a google forms and invoice the respective winners. My goal is to have the main boards out of my house before Christmas, with the extras sale happening once everyone has received their unit and there are no issues anywhere.

I will keep a fairly large amount of PCBs stocked up so that those with a need for more PCBs can get one. Sagrada is delivering Q1 2023 as well, with the PCB being shared across both projects. This was done to make sure borked PCBs can be replaced easily and cheaply.

I am working with vendors to secure the final group buy information, and I have already implemented topre to the design. More information to come soon.
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Offline Rafa_n

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 19:34:26 »
Love the weight design.
Please consider EU vendor.

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 19:39:44 »
Dark grey goes hard  :cool:

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 19:51:46 »
Looking forward to seeing those dark grey samples  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 20:02:15 »
nice work mr lam lam

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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 20:17:31 »
that lilac so nice
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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 22:13:28 »
Let's go!! 😍

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 22:43:14 »
Hot diggigity, do you ever put out bad work?

In all seriousness the color choices are sublime. With the Zig, Windy60, and this, you might as well just take my credit card for the next few months.

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 26 October 2022, 23:20:45 »
lammy shoots banger after banger

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 03:04:11 »
Looking good! :cool:

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 04:08:39 »
Happy to be part of R0. Might have to pull the trigger for a Beige one  :p

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 05:07:12 »
Smash  :thumb:

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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 07:27:05 »
Give it to me daddy

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 08:11:14 »
Love the weight design.
Please consider EU vendor.
it's 100% going to be mykb so it's a quite easy pass

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 09:02:10 »
Love the weight design.
Please consider EU vendor.
it's 100% going to be mykb so it's a quite easy pass

When you see how efficiently and quickly the closed group buy was fulfilled (I was the vendor myself) you will be surprised. Regardless of which vendors I use I am going to be managing things myself so rest assured, things will be speedy. 

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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 09:20:21 »
Looking good, the FRLTKL is quite amazing and would expect the same here.

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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 09:26:12 »
Nice. It’s so beautiful. now gib

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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 09:58:57 »
So excited for a public run of this board! Always love your work.  P.S. Happy birthday Lam!!!  :cool:

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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 11:21:27 »
This looks great! Will be following this closely!!

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 14:37:36 »
Absolutely fantastic looking board, can't wait to get my hands on it hehe

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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 14:38:31 »
dropping a sneaky comment for lam's love

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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 15:09:57 »
Love the design of this board. LFG!!!!

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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 15:19:51 »
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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 16:02:02 »
Looking forward to this one :thumb:

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Thank you for your contribution :thumb:


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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 16:04:19 »
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I believe they are members from the private sale lmao I recognize some of the names from their discord IDs :D
Gave me a giggle not going to lie, not everyone spends every waking moment posting on geekhack. Is there anything bad about people creating accounts on a forum designed to show support and interest about projects, mind you, to go support what they like? This air of seniority stinks from 5 miles away.

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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 16:26:29 »
Absolutely gorgeous board, I'm going to cop that beige one for sure.

Offline chonkkeys

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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 21:21:41 »
My paycheck goes straight to Lam. That dark grey looks so good pls I’m already set with beige  :confused:

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 27 October 2022, 23:53:18 »
This looks pretty nice. I was wondering how long this GB will take? Lets say 200 units. Would that be like a year of waiting?

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« Reply #29 on: Fri, 28 October 2022, 01:23:49 »
Recently got my first HHKB layout, looking to add many more.

That weight design is super amazing.

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 28 October 2022, 17:58:50 »
Cool name, even cooler board. This looks beautiful.

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 28 October 2022, 23:03:48 »
Cool name, even cooler board. This looks beautiful.

Thanks for the support r00dy!! It means a lot! It’s been under wraps for a while but I’m happy to finally have the design out in the open.

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« Reply #32 on: Sat, 29 October 2022, 12:40:32 »
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  How dare they leave a comment with less than 800 posts?                             

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« Reply #33 on: Sat, 29 October 2022, 13:53:31 »
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  How dare they leave a comment with less than 800 posts?                             

Kinda weird to post on a project you support  :rolleyes:

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #34 on: Sat, 29 October 2022, 14:04:11 »
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  How dare they leave a comment with less than 800 posts?                             

Kinda weird to post on a project you support  :rolleyes:

Oh the gang at keybros are homies they’re just replying to the snarky comment above  :D
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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 14 November 2022, 02:57:39 »
Absolutely Gorgeous Lam. May need to hop on this one

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 14 November 2022, 04:44:18 »
When you see how efficiently and quickly the closed group buy was fulfilled (I was the vendor myself) you will be surprised. Regardless of which vendors I use I am going to be managing things myself so rest assured, things will be speedy.

I have no doubt about your professionalism and seriousness. I just have the strongest dislike for mkeu, their business practices and their customer service (or lack thereof), which is why I decided to skip the sagrada even if I loved everything about that board. happy to hear you're also running things without third parties  :thumb:

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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 14 November 2022, 06:29:21 »
yes mkeu is a bad vendor, but having a vendor is still helpful in most cases, primarily to the buyer, especially in regards to high shipping costs and customs fees (not event counting vat).

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 14 November 2022, 11:47:52 »
yes mkeu is a bad vendor, but having a vendor is still helpful in most cases, primarily to the buyer, especially in regards to high shipping costs and customs fees (not event counting vat).

While I cannot dictate your preferences when it comes to vendors, what I can tell you (and everyone, by extension) is that I do not just design and dump, I coordinate everything from the beginning of the design to fulfillment. I cannot control things like customer support, VAT prices and other aspects but what I can do is make sure on my side things are smooth and efficient. From coordinating with manufacturers, sending units to be showcased, making sure parts arrive on time so there are no delays to simple things like making sure files are delivered quickly, etc.

If you like what I design, trust me to make sure things move smoothly and do not let prior experiences with vendors (positive or negative) push you away or sway your decisions. I will make sure to manage things in the same way I managed the private group buy, so things come on time. I am very picky with things so any vendor that I work with is one I have set clear expectations with and with whom I know I can deliver a good product. As always, I appreciate the trust!

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60%
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 14 November 2022, 14:50:04 »
Love the 3 color combo on the keycaps !

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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 17 November 2022, 10:38:09 »
This is a pretty one! Very nice

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60% -- New Update
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 17 November 2022, 14:04:06 »
Update has been added to reserved comment.

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60% -- New Update
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 04 December 2022, 12:26:42 »
Looking forward to this. And Eu vendor  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60% -- New Update
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 05 December 2022, 19:02:22 »
Latest update has been added to reserved comment.

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60% -- New Update
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 05 December 2022, 19:11:52 »
Hot keyboard nice job!
 

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60% -- New Update
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 08 December 2022, 03:56:29 »
I've been actively raising awareness of this board in various private servers. Though the dark grey is really nice, I've always dreamt of owning a beige board. This is it. Excited for further developments!

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« Reply #46 on: Thu, 08 December 2022, 22:48:28 »
Absolutely gorgeous board! this is what I need

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60% -- New Update
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 17 January 2023, 06:01:45 »
Those photos look pretty good :eek:

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60% -- New Update
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 22 April 2023, 01:57:23 »
Beige is a banger!

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Re: [IC] Leviatán - Plateless 60% -- MAJOR UPDATE. PRICING AND GB DATE
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 29 April 2023, 10:00:07 »
IC's been revamped, information has been added.