[Shipping] Stainless Steel Poker Plate

[The_Beast]

No branding is needed on my plates! Plain plate looks great to me.
But I won't cancel my order even if plates are stamped any logo

Thanks a lot for organizing this GB, The_Beast.

Thanks for putting up with these questionnaires guys, it should have been handled during the IC, but I just never thought of it.

Anyways, Poker suits seems to be leading by quite a bit (I personally like this one the most since it's a poker). I'll draw it, show you guys and and see it if needs adjusting


Edit: thanks Loligagger for the poker suit idea in the first place

[damorgue]

Adding plates of different designs shouldn't increase the cost per plate, only decrease it further. All they do is place the files next to each other. Stacking more won't take much time and will allow for the the machine to work a bit longer on the same sheet.

[The_Beast]

Adding plates of different designs shouldn't increase the cost per plate, only decrease it further. All they do is place the files next to each other. Stacking more won't take much time and will allow for the the machine to work a bit longer on the same sheet.

I'll ask about this next time I email him

[WhiteFireDragon]

Adding plates of different designs shouldn't increase the cost per plate, only decrease it further. All they do is place the files next to each other. Stacking more won't take much time and will allow for the the machine to work a bit longer on the same sheet.

If this is true, PURE should be on the list. It only requires on small modifcation on the right shift. Count me in if this is the case.

[The_Beast]

He got back to me on payment method, we'll be paying the state tax of 5.5% since I'm not a reseller or have a tax exempt form. He also gave me another quote for 60 plates ordered, we're hitting the point were they just don't get that much cheaper due to material cost. He's doing $10.50 per plate, no tax and no "legend" fee from me yet. The final price should be around $11.80-$12.25 per plate after taxes, my fee and PP (if I'm doing my math right).


I also asked him this

If I ordered 60 of those plates and one that was nearly identical but had a few more holes in it or a small text personalization, would it be $10.50 for all 61 plates or would it be $10.50 for 60 of the plates and $22.29 for the one that had a few extra holes/personalization in it?

He said he would do all 61 at the lower price. HOWEVER, this doesn't mean I'll be doing personalized plates this run (other than maybe poker suits above the spacebar). I'm doing this run to setup a rapport with him since I've been asking a ton of questions and am still not a paying customer. This should help us later when I do my "mix bag" plate GB that may include personalization. If you want to drop your order and wait for a GB with personalization, it won't be effecting price all that much, but I'd prefer if you didn't.

[DarkShot]

I don't mind getting one without customization.

I intend on sticking with it 'till I get the plate in my hands

[The_Beast]

I don't mind getting one without customization.

I intend on sticking with it 'till I get the plate in my hands

Sweet, while I think personalization is cool, how often are you really going to be looking at it? Plus, there isn't really a ton of room to put it unless we made the plate cherry stab. only, which I don't want to do since just having the possibility of it being cherry and costar compatible is pretty sweet.


As for questionnaire #2 favorite:
Blank: 6
Poker suits: 15
"geekhack": 3
"gh": 1

And almost everyone put "I will not be dropping regardless of final plate design". Since poker suits seems to be the clear winner, I'll try to have a mock up done sometime today or tomorrow

[TDub]

Thanks for putting up with these questionnaires guys, it should have been handled during the IC, but I just never thought of it.

Maybe I didn't search enough, but where do we find the questionnaires?

[esoomenona]

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[The_Beast]

^ lol nice

Thanks for putting up with these questionnaires guys, it should have been handled during the IC, but I just never thought of it.

Maybe I didn't search enough, but where do we find the questionnaires?

I sent a PM to everyone who had an order in at the time of sending, if you didn't order, please don't fill it out:
questionnaires

[Bar81]

Sorry if this has been answered or if it obvious, but what is the point of these plates?  To decrease flex?

[The_Beast]

Sorry if this has been answered or if it obvious, but what is the point of these plates?  To decrease flex?

Yes, they make the keyboard feel more solid and reduce PCB flex while typing.

[modulor]

I'm pretty stoked to try some costar stabilizers on my Poker!  Hopefully they will fit

[The_Beast]

I'm pretty stoked to try some costar stabilizers on my Poker!  Hopefully they will fit

I'm making no promises about being able to use costar stabilizers. The design include the option to use costar, but since the plate is .0625" and not the .060" that costar requires, they may not work because the plate may be too thick.


However, I really hope they do too ^___^

[esoomenona]

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[The_Beast]

^That's probably nothing a little sanding couldn't handle.

More than likely yes, but again, I'm not making promises saying it's a costar compatible plate. The design is, but the plate may not be.


However, I would really like it to be costar compatible

[Bar81]

Sorry if this has been answered or if it obvious, but what is the point of these plates?  To decrease flex?

Yes, they make the keyboard feel more solid and reduce PCB flex while typing.

Then put me down for one.  They only come in one flavor right?

[The_Beast]

Sorry if this has been answered or if it obvious, but what is the point of these plates?  To decrease flex?

Yes, they make the keyboard feel more solid and reduce PCB flex while typing.

Then put me down for one.  They only come in one flavor right?

You have to fill out the order form in the first post to register an order. Right now I'm thinking about putting poker suits above the spacebar, but other than that, it should look exactly like the first pic in my first post

[Bar81]

Done.

[alaricljs]

Grind/sand the bottom side... gotta keep that plate pretty 

[The_Beast]

Grind/sand the bottom side... gotta keep that plate pretty 

Could you sand the "Plate Mounted Stabilizer Clips"/the black clips?

[alaricljs]

it's a bit small for that, you'll increase the chances of it breaking.
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The ][ is the part that holds the place, the u holds the wire.  Sand the inside of the bracket and the corners get weaker and may break when you install them.  (no I didn't draw all of it ;P )

[esoomenona]

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[alaricljs]

Just needs to be thinner, on top of which it would be best to keep the all the parts (switches, stabs) on the same plane.  The plane referenced by the switches is the top, so make the plane referenced by the stabs the top.

[Glissant]

Oooo this is so very interesting.

[Unicorn_Systems]

Hi anyone willing to install these for me?

I don't suppose you're in the UK?

[The_Beast]

Oooo this is so very interesting.

iknowright?

Hi anyone willing to install these for me?

I don't suppose you're in the UK?

All you really need to know is how to use a soldering iron and some time ^___^

[TheQsanity]

Hi anyone willing to install these for me?

I don't suppose you're in the UK?

All you really need to know is how to use a soldering iron and some time ^___^
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YouTube videos may help

[WhiteFireDragon]

Hi anyone willing to install these for me?

I don't suppose you're in the UK?

All you really need to know is how to use a soldering iron and some time ^___^

You don't expect everyone to invest in over $50 worth of soldering stuff if they have no plans to solder anything else in the future, do you?

[The_Beast]

It's always nice to have a soldering iron. I keep borrowing my friends, but I'm thinking of buying one soon.


Plus that person who would be doing the soldering I'm sure will be charging for it. So say $50 to get a plate put on, including the shipping. You could have bought an iron yourself, soldered it yourself and got a free soldering iron out of it.

[SmallFry]

I recommend a non adjustable Weller station The_Beast. The one I use is most likely older than us and still using the original everything (new tip o'course). I have never had problems with my Weller.

[The_Beast]

I recommend a non adjustable Weller station The_Beast. The one I use is most likely older than us and still using the original everything (new tip o'course). I have never had problems with my Weller.

The one I keep borrowing is the weller station ones. They are on Amazon for like $40 shipped.

[SmallFry]

I'll see if I can't get a picture of mine for you to are, its nice and easy, one switch and I'm ready to go (with a wet sponge of course.

[The_Beast]

I'll see if I can't get a picture of mine for you to are, its nice and easy, one switch and I'm ready to go (with a wet sponge of course.

It's this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Weller-WLC100-40-Watt-Soldering-Station/dp/B000AS28UC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349494645&sr=8-1&keywords=weller+solder+station

But if you want to talk soldering irons, start a thread or pm me since this isn't really the right place ^___^

[The_Beast]

I got the plate mock up done on Saturday and I sent it to him this morning to see if his laser could cut out stuff that small. The kerf on most lasers are .006", and the narrowest gap on the poker suit is .1773mm or .0069" so that's really close


Update: The poker suits plate will cost a bit more to do, about $0.75 per plate more. I'll be putting a mockup up in the first post and then sending out a mass PM to those who would like to change there orders to include this new poker option.

[mm87]

Initially ordered 2 plates but 1 will be enough for me so I used the re-order form for that, hope that's OK.

[The_Beast]

Initially ordered 2 plates but 1 will be enough for me so I used the re-order form for that, hope that's OK.

100% fine ^___^

[kaiserreich]

What is the current per plate pricing, and international shipping cost?
I'm considering on ordering more.

[The_Beast]

$12-$13 per plate and then ~$7.50 for shipping. But those are both "soft numbers" because I'm not entirely sure yet




Also, all re-orders have been updated, check post #2 to confirm

[The_Beast]

All re-orders have been updated ^___^


BTW I sent out a quote to my waterjet guy, we are getting a steal on these plates

1/16" 5052:
1 - $55.43
20 - $24.48
50 - $22.96

1/16" stainless:
1 - $66.41
20 - $35.10
50 - $33.30

[litster]

So it will be water jet cut, not laser cut?

[CKTofu]

So it will be water jet cut, not laser cut?

It will be laser cut, that's just the quote he got from the water-cutting guy he talked to.

[The_Beast]

So it will be water jet cut, not laser cut?

I just sent a quote to the waterjet guy to see if he was even close to the laser cutter price. The thing is that the estimator at work said that the water cutter was often cheaper than the laser cutter but I guess on these small plates he wasn't

[litster]

From our experience with Phantom's plates, laser cut is more precise, as the laser beam is a lot smaller than water jet's water beam.  At least for the 2 shops we used.  The first Phantom prototype plate was waterjet cut, and the inside corners are rounded.  It was difficult to install switches, especially plate mount stabilizers, without filing off the corners.  The actual shippng Phantom plates were cut with laser.

I would recommend using laser cut even if water jet is a lot cheaper.  Sorry if this has already been covered earlier in the thread.

[The_Beast]

From our experience with Phantom's plates, laser cut is more precise, as the laser beam is a lot smaller than water jet's water beam.  At least for the 2 shops we used.  The first Phantom prototype plate was waterjet cut, and the inside corners are rounded.  It was difficult to install switches, especially plate mount stabilizers, without filing off the corners.  The actual shippng Phantom plates were cut with laser.

I would recommend using laser cut even if water jet is a lot cheaper.  Sorry if this has already been covered earlier in the thread.

They are being laser cut. The quote above is from a waterjet place that I know of just because I was curious to see how much they were compared to the laser cutter. Especially since the estimator at my work said that the water cutting place was often cheaper than the laser cutting place in his most recent quotes from both places.

It's much cheaper to use the laser cutter and like you said, will offer a better plate.

[Caaaarrrt]

Order submitted for 2 plates

[plastboks]

New to this board.  Just ordered two blanks 

[huttala]

Don't know if this is all ready said but I'll ask anyway.

Will i be able to change switches without de soldering the switches after the plate is on the board?

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II using Tapatalk.

[The_Beast]

Don't know if this is all ready said but I'll ask anyway.

Will i be able to change switches without de soldering the switches after the plate is on the board?

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II using Tapatalk.

It looks like it can, but I'm not 100%

[WhiteFireDragon]

So the guy is ok with cutting 2 different plates without counting it as 2 separate orders? If that's the case, can we also sneak in a plate design for PURE? If so, I'll see if I can make the DXF file for PURE layout.

And I'm guessing it won't be a problem to switch from cherry stabilizers to costar stabilizers?