So the green color is going to be the same or lighter and less saturated than the SA version? I like the lighter and more muted renders in the OP, but the photos I've seen of the SA kit show a medium-dark significantly more saturated green. (e.g.: http://i.imgur.com/utcM4Ze.jpg , https://i.imgur.com/9JNTYv4.jpg)
Wohooooooooooooo. And if anyone's on the fence cos the colors of the renders look off* from SA Camping, here are re-colors I did based on the first batch of renders for GMK Camping (can be found in the IC thread):
https://imgur.com/a/ir5bO
*IMO, they look realistic save for the green color. I think that's how it'll look like if sunlight was striking the keyboard
Man i not see space bar only base kit why ?
I have already asked him to update the renders, will post those once I receive them. :) :)
I have already asked him to update the renders, will post those once I receive them. :) :)
Working on it, master!
Wohooooooooooooo. And if anyone's on the fence cos the colors of the renders look off* from SA Camping, here are re-colors I did based on the first batch of renders for GMK Camping (can be found in the IC thread):
https://imgur.com/a/ir5bO
*IMO, they look realistic save for the green color. I think that's how it'll look like if sunlight was striking the keyboard
Thank you for doing this, the oblotzky renders are more accurate imo.
This is due to the SP colorchip sample pictures on their website is pretty off, as well as the Krogenar scans.
Thesiscamper uses those to make his renders.
Or otherwise SP adjusted their VF green.
So the green color is going to be the same or lighter and less saturated than the SA version? I like the lighter and more muted renders in the OP, but the photos I've seen of the SA kit show a medium-dark significantly more saturated green. (e.g.: http://i.imgur.com/utcM4Ze.jpg , https://i.imgur.com/9JNTYv4.jpg)
Any reason why the GMK Camping is so much more expensive than GMK Nautilus? The Nautilus only costs $99.99 for a 150-key set.There are a lot more novelties on GMK Camping and custom molds=more money needed to make the set and custom colors where royalties have to be paid to use. Probably the big two on top of my head.
So the green color is going to be the same or lighter and less saturated than the SA version? I like the lighter and more muted renders in the OP, but the photos I've seen of the SA kit show a medium-dark significantly more saturated green. (e.g.: http://i.imgur.com/utcM4Ze.jpg , https://i.imgur.com/9JNTYv4.jpg)
Dang, now that you mention it, there is a pretty big difference between the renders on the site and actual color of SA Camping. I too, much prefer the lighter and less saturated green. It gives it a much softer and natural feel to me. Oh well, I just might jump in on this group buy anyway.
Any reason why the GMK Camping is so much more expensive than GMK Nautilus? The Nautilus only costs $99.99 for a 150-key set.
Any reason why the GMK Camping is so much more expensive than GMK Nautilus? The Nautilus only costs $99.99 for a 150-key set.
Here's a breakdown comparing the base + novelties kits of GMK Camping, Nautilus, and Laser:
Camping:
250 MOQ: $175
Nautilus:
250 MOQ: $130 + $35: $165*
Laser:
250 MOQ: $140 + $60: $200**
*By the looks of it, Camping has twice the amount of novelties as Nautilus
**MiTo used a lot of custom molds
Any reason why the GMK Camping is so much more expensive than GMK Nautilus? The Nautilus only costs $99.99 for a 150-key set.
Can anyone shed some light on how the set will look in person?
Like others here, I much prefer the muted/earthy (almost textured) colors, but the original looks to be quite glossy. The renders look somewhere between these two. Speculation?
:)
But it doesn't include a 6u spacebar? Sad ;-;Any reason why the GMK Camping is so much more expensive than GMK Nautilus? The Nautilus only costs $99.99 for a 150-key set.
Camping contents more novelty keys, and also more keys, there are 168 keys in the base kit if I can count
I notice that you have included the 2u shift but without 3u spacebar!
Sorry.
I notice it until recently. It seem too late to say the suggestion. feel sad..
Any update on numbers? How are we doing on reaching MOQ?
Any update on numbers? How are we doing on reaching MOQ?
We are at 150 for base and 100 for spacebars.
Will make a post on Reddit to cheer this up later this week.
Just got an email stating that tomorrow is the last day to join GMK camping. Is that true? Did we make MOQ?
Yeah, I got that email as well and was gonna rush into buying it "last minute" until I realized it was supposed to last a bit longer. I'm thinking they may have forgotten to update their schedule after the original timeline adjustment One other thing, anyone else not seeing a PayPal option on Kono's checkout? I'm hesitant to put card info anywhere since an account break-in last summer.
Yeah, I got that email as well and was gonna rush into buying it "last minute" until I realized it was supposed to last a bit longer. I'm thinking they may have forgotten to update their schedule after the original timeline adjustment One other thing, anyone else not seeing a PayPal option on Kono's checkout? I'm hesitant to put card info anywhere since an account break-in last summer.
I didn't see an option for PayPal either
The GB was planned to end on Feb. 8th, so you can all ignore the e-mail Kono sent out today, it was a misunderstand. I'm sure they have sent out another mail to correct that.
As for colors, I have received the color chips from SP, will be sending those to GMK this week.
GMK will start the color matching process immediately after they receive the color chips.
I don't think that will be a problem :)The GB was planned to end on Feb. 8th, so you can all ignore the e-mail Kono sent out today, it was a misunderstand. I'm sure they have sent out another mail to correct that.
As for colors, I have received the color chips from SP, will be sending those to GMK this week.
GMK will start the color matching process immediately after they receive the color chips.
Does this mean we are close enough to MOQ that this is going to be produced?
Got kicked out of this gb from zFrontier after i've paid 3 sets for me and two of my friends.
"According to our third party fraud analysis, there is a high risk of the order, and we are required to cancel your order. " they said, except i've used my paypal for many years and i got my card verified. One of my friend just told me that he joined for one set and also got kicked out.
Nice play zfrontier, Chosing your site to join this gb is my biggest mistake.
Any chance to see the final numbers from each region?
Do the green color of GMK Camping match that of GMK 9009 R2? I wanted to mix and match some keysNope, custom colors from the SP SA version of the set is gonna be the green of GMK Camping.
Color samples have arrived. Kingnestea will be receiving a copy as well in a few days, we'll discuss if we are going to approve them when he has checked them out himself.
The colors aren't 100% identical, but here are a few reasons why I think that is okay:
- Surface finish for both profiles is different, affecting refraction and therefor how colors come out
- Does a GMK run have to be 100% the same as the original, or can stand on its own feet? IMO they look dope by themselves and very much represent what Camping is.
- If SA was run a second time, SP would be using a different batch of resin and we'd have a slight difference like this as well, so as long as it is within margin, it is fine IMO.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GbeIwgQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qWQhx6V.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5W7Cfrf.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/fsqHUe4.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QVtCtYg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7tV9xoY.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ix2c16C.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KOyTa1Y.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/26N8Mh0.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DXxhc2N.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Q6GHDWb.jpg)
The colors seem close enough that I would be fine with it as is, but if I had to nitpick, the gmk alpha color seems a bit dull / less vibrant than the SA ones. I can notice it most in 3rd picture from the bottom, as well as the side-by-side with the caliper. Its slight enough that it could be the lighting/angle too I suppose. I liked the bright pale cream colors of the original set, so hopefully that will still be the case when I see these in person.
White and green are darker, but I think they look better so this is looking good so far compared to other custom colored GMK sets...
White and green are darker, but I think they look better so this is looking good so far compared to other custom colored GMK sets...
i think it's just because of the different finish on the plastic
White and green are darker, but I think they look better so this is looking good so far compared to other custom colored GMK sets...
i think it's just because of the different finish on the plastic
Whatever it is, it's what the set will be and it works well :))
Hi all,
I've received my samples today.
Imo, they are 99% identical, and they will never be 100% due to the nature of different surface finish causing different light reflection ratio.
So I'm gonna approve the colors so that they can move forward.
Besides this, Monkey Six the original creator of Camping is working on the banderole design.
I'll share that once he has finalized it, it looks really good. :-*
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I just realized my pictures are pretty inaccurate due to lighting.
I'd say Oblotzky's pictures are more accurate irl. ( Of course, he's a German :)))
Minor update,
GMK offered a 2nd round of sampling, we are going to take it and send some SA Camping keys to them for sampling instead of SP color chips.
This will not affect the timeline since we are still 2 months out of production.
Will update you about the result, and we will see which color we are going to take.
Minor update,
GMK offered a 2nd round of sampling, we are going to take it and send some SA Camping keys to them for sampling instead of SP color chips.
This will not affect the timeline since we are still 2 months out of production.
Will update you about the result, and we will see which color we are going to take.
I sent 3 keys from the actual SA set to GMK last Thursday, we should have the second round of samples in a few weeks. As kingnestea mentioned we are currently still way ahead of production so this won't affect the schedule.
Any update?
can someone make that banderole into a deskmat? holy **** thats nice looking
can someone make that banderole into a deskmat? holy **** thats nice looking
Would definitely get a few of them, really nice design
can someone make that banderole into a deskmat? holy **** thats nice looking
this GB happened before i got my first mech. do they only make the number of sets ordered or are there any extras so that i'd be able to buy one? this is probably my favorite GMK set that i've seen so far.
this GB happened before i got my first mech. do they only make the number of sets ordered or are there any extras so that i'd be able to buy one? this is probably my favorite GMK set that i've seen so far.
depends on the GB, some will have extras, some won't
i don't know for sure about this one
people will always sell aftermarket on /r/mechmarket though
I currently ran into some health issues and am contemplating selling my set. Would I be better off waiting to receive it first or somehow transferring shipping details if I decided to sell sooner? Just curious what the better method would be? Thanks for anyone with info.
It depends on who the vendor is that you bought your kit from. It would vary based on whether they can and then whether the buyer acknowledges they receive the product. If you do decide to sell as PayPal as a invoice to the next buyer (assuming this is the method the vendor goes with - you taking money for the goods and the vendor updating the shipping details), the buyer could do a chargeback if they claim they never received it. Your BEST bet would be to sell after the kits ship. So long as "extras" are minimal and sell out quickly, you will likely come out ahead as this set is pretty hot as it is. If you do choose to sell, keep a record of everything to cover you in case anything happens.
On another note:nice
HOLY MOLY.Show Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/563c788ae4b099120ae219e2/5aafa81b758d463a2268c4ce/5ab3b9db1ae6cffd4ce37704/1521727976221/RAMA-M60-A-03.748.jpg?format=750w)
That's GMK Camping with no red accents on a sage green RAMA M60-A (Which I have on order)
You better believe I now know where this set is going.
(Definitely going to use some of the novelty keys, though ;) )
Any idea when this thing is scheduled to ship? I remember the GB concluded around early Feb (right?) and it says around 4 months for production.
I'm working with a vendor for the desk mat.
So, are we still on track for May 15 ship date like the Kono page says?
So, are we still on track for May 15 ship date like the Kono page says?
"The product will not ship until the revised estimated date of July 5th, 2018."
Bummer. :(
Yeah, I would have rathered an announcement of some kind had happened instead of the date just changing and having to find out from just someone random that the change had occurred.
It's OK, I assumed that since Kono changed the date it was the official one. Sure, no problem, I don't mind to wait a little bit more.
I have been working with kingnestea on getting some deskpads/mousepads going for this. I just got my samples back and they are really great.
Here are a couple pictures. The big deskpad is 900x400mm and the small one is 320x245mm. I will probably have a GB start for the pads in the middle of June.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WmqnSXz.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/j0B5wvN.jpg)
Looks great! Excited for the buy
Mouse Pads look amazing
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"update" 21/06:
The tranlucent novelty key will have GMK stock color P3 instead of the custom maroon because the sample they sent is not really something I have expected.
GMK is still waiting the custom color material to arrive.
They will update me the ETA once they arrive and I'll update the group here and the proxies.
Please have some patient, we are almost there.
"update" 21/06:
The tranlucent novelty key will have GMK stock color P3 instead of the custom maroon because the sample they sent is not really something I have expected.
GMK is still waiting the custom color material to arrive.
They will update me the ETA once they arrive and I'll update the group here and the proxies.
Please have some patient, we are almost there.
Do you mean for the 2nd color? Or it’s not transparent anymore?
How about the deskpads?
On the product page, the deskpads aren't shipping till September.
On the product page, the deskpads aren't shipping till September.
Which product page? I even do not know when the group buy of deskpads started.
Just received an e-mail from GMK.Feelsadman, We are not informed of the group buy of the deskpads.
Camping will finish production by this week, and will be picked up probably by the 17th.
Cheers.
But we literally got an update from novel keys dude saying September in this thread tho :intensethonk:Just received an e-mail from GMK.Feelsadman, We are not informed of the group buy of the deskpads.
Camping will finish production by this week, and will be picked up probably by the 17th.
Cheers.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlVatpdj8oC/
Just received an e-mail from GMK.Feelsadman, We are not informed of the group buy of the deskpads.
Camping will finish production by this week, and will be picked up probably by the 17th.
Cheers.
Did you mean July 23rd?
But we literally got an update from novel keys dude saying September in this thread tho :intensethonk:Just received an e-mail from GMK.Feelsadman, We are not informed of the group buy of the deskpads.
Camping will finish production by this week, and will be picked up probably by the 17th.
Cheers.
But that's literally the only notice in this thread indicating that the group buy had begun, and it was a shipping notice to those who had found out about that group buy outside of this thread, because the GB was closed before it was linked in this thread for the first time.
mgsickler/kingnestea I'd strongly reccommend to re-open the deskmat GB and properly notify those who purchased the set before moving on with production. There are already three people here disappointed that we didn't know about this in time, and sets haven't even started arriving yet, so not many folks are checking this thread right now, and there could be many more disappointed by this lack of notification.
Got my set(s) straight from GMKShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/4aYCXYS.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Hl0FJfM.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TXs3B8T.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1WADGaM.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i0KIPxv.jpg)
Hype!
Do you know when we can expect the EU proxy to start shipping?
Hype!
Do you know when we can expect the EU proxy to start shipping?
The EU proxy has received the sets as well, but GMK forgot the spacebar kits.
They will start shipping once GMK solve the problem.
All sets for KR proxy were arrived yesterday. So sets for KR have been packing and shipping. :thumb:
(Attachment Link)So cool! Thanks!
Finally got Camping! Thanks!
I evidently wasn't paying attention before. No translucent red fire key?Translucent fire key is still there. You can see pictures of it on the GMK instagram :)
Either way, stoked to get my set.
-Aox
Translucent fire key is still there. You can see pictures of it on the GMK instagram :)
Are the sets from the NA/Kono proxy shipping out yet?
I wonder when will zF start shipping from their end
anyone in the EU received their set with spacebar kit? No word from mykeyboard yet.Yep, I received the set with spacebars yesterday.
Anywhere we can still buy mats?
Anyone know if Kono really sold out on the sets they have or is it just a place holder default config showing "out of stock"? Asking because an EU shop has it in stock but I'd rather order from a US retailer.
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JYL00790 (https://flic.kr/p/L8FGRe) by Jayin Lee (https://www.flickr.com/photos/kivx/), 於 Flickr
I took some pics to show the comparision.
Full Album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmgsJhxu (https://flic.kr/s/aHsmgsJhxu)
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JYL00790 (https://flic.kr/p/L8FGRe) by Jayin Lee (https://www.flickr.com/photos/kivx/), 於 Flickr
I took some pics to show the comparision.
Full Album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmgsJhxu (https://flic.kr/s/aHsmgsJhxu)
Anyone who ordered from Kono get a shipping notification yet?Nope..
I asked in the IC discord, and they said it should be this week.I can't find a discord link in the IC thread :confused:
Hi guys,
Just came back from China after almost a month vacation, I'm glad to see so many awesome pictures taken of the GMK Camping set.
I'm pretty glad with the final result of the set except the tranlucent key. But it is what it is now.
To answer some of the questions above. Regarding to the information I received, all proxies have shipped out their orders except Kono.
The Kono package had some problem with import, and finally has arrived in their warehouse last week.
I guess shipping will start soon, extras will be available by then.
The mouse pads will be available on Massdrop for those who missed the GB. (Novelkey has some extras as well)
I want to thank you all for your patients along way with this GB and hope you all enjoy CAMPING!
Hi guys,
Just came back from China after almost a month vacation, I'm glad to see so many awesome pictures taken of the GMK Camping set.
I'm pretty glad with the final result of the set except the tranlucent key. But it is what it is now.
To answer some of the questions above. Regarding to the information I received, all proxies have shipped out their orders except Kono.
The Kono package had some problem with import, and finally has arrived in their warehouse last week.
I guess shipping will start soon, extras will be available by then.
The mouse pads will be available on Massdrop for those who missed the GB. (Novelkey has some extras as well)
I want to thank you all for your patients along way with this GB and hope you all enjoy CAMPING!
Hi guys,
Just came back from China after almost a month vacation, I'm glad to see so many awesome pictures taken of the GMK Camping set.
I'm pretty glad with the final result of the set except the tranlucent key. But it is what it is now.
To answer some of the questions above. Regarding to the information I received, all proxies have shipped out their orders except Kono.
The Kono package had some problem with import, and finally has arrived in their warehouse last week.
I guess shipping will start soon, extras will be available by then.
The mouse pads will be available on Massdrop for those who missed the GB. (Novelkey has some extras as well)
I want to thank you all for your patients along way with this GB and hope you all enjoy CAMPING!
Thanks for the update, really appreciate it. Been wanting a set and wondering why Kono gone silent on Camping's status.
Hi guys,
Just came back from China after almost a month vacation, I'm glad to see so many awesome pictures taken of the GMK Camping set.
I'm pretty glad with the final result of the set except the tranlucent key. But it is what it is now.
To answer some of the questions above. Regarding to the information I received, all proxies have shipped out their orders except Kono.
The Kono package had some problem with import, and finally has arrived in their warehouse last week.
I guess shipping will start soon, extras will be available by then.
The mouse pads will be available on Massdrop for those who missed the GB. (Novelkey has some extras as well)
I want to thank you all for your patients along way with this GB and hope you all enjoy CAMPING!
Thanks for the update, really appreciate it. Been wanting a set and wondering why Kono gone silent on Camping's status.
Yes, the update is much appreciated. But Kono's radio silence is not. I don't see why someone from Kono couldn't have jumped in on the thread (or blast an email to GB participants) to let us know they were having some issues with receiving instead of keeping us in the dark during kingnestea's absence. Rest of the world receiving theirs while NA waits in silence... not cool guys.
Hi guys,
Just came back from China after almost a month vacation, I'm glad to see so many awesome pictures taken of the GMK Camping set.
I'm pretty glad with the final result of the set except the tranlucent key. But it is what it is now.
To answer some of the questions above. Regarding to the information I received, all proxies have shipped out their orders except Kono.
The Kono package had some problem with import, and finally has arrived in their warehouse last week.
I guess shipping will start soon, extras will be available by then.
The mouse pads will be available on Massdrop for those who missed the GB. (Novelkey has some extras as well)
I want to thank you all for your patients along way with this GB and hope you all enjoy CAMPING!
Thanks for the update, really appreciate it. Been wanting a set and wondering why Kono gone silent on Camping's status.
Yes, the update is much appreciated. But Kono's radio silence is not. I don't see why someone from Kono couldn't have jumped in on the thread (or blast an email to GB participants) to let us know they were having some issues with receiving instead of keeping us in the dark during kingnestea's absence. Rest of the world receiving theirs while NA waits in silence... not cool guys.
I guess that's because the main team of input club was in China settling Kira production and helping Kalh with their box switches.
And the guy who used to maintain Kono had some kinda of family issues. (his wify complained about him travelling too much ;D)
Hi guys,
Just came back from China after almost a month vacation, I'm glad to see so many awesome pictures taken of the GMK Camping set.
I'm pretty glad with the final result of the set except the tranlucent key. But it is what it is now.
To answer some of the questions above. Regarding to the information I received, all proxies have shipped out their orders except Kono.
The Kono package had some problem with import, and finally has arrived in their warehouse last week.
I guess shipping will start soon, extras will be available by then.
The mouse pads will be available on Massdrop for those who missed the GB. (Novelkey has some extras as well)
I want to thank you all for your patients along way with this GB and hope you all enjoy CAMPING!
Thanks for the update, really appreciate it. Been wanting a set and wondering why Kono gone silent on Camping's status.
Yes, the update is much appreciated. But Kono's radio silence is not. I don't see why someone from Kono couldn't have jumped in on the thread (or blast an email to GB participants) to let us know they were having some issues with receiving instead of keeping us in the dark during kingnestea's absence. Rest of the world receiving theirs while NA waits in silence... not cool guys.
I guess that's because the main team of input club was in China settling Kira production and helping Kalh with their box switches.
And the guy who used to maintain Kono had some kinda of family issues. (his wify complained about him travelling too much ;D)
I don't want to sound like a ****, but there will always be an excuse.
My point is simply that it doesn't take that much time and effort for one person to open a web browser and type out a paragraph. In the time it took someone to answer all the email inquiries about Camping status, they could've just blasted an email out to everyone and saved themselves the trouble.
Kono/InputClub is an established business that handles a lot of transactions (money) at one time. They should have systems in place where tasks get delegated to someone else when the "main team" is away. Posting on the internet or sending an email does not require someone to travel.
Also, in these modern times where we are constantly surrounded by connected technologies, you can't really tell me that someone from the "main team" was not able to remotely delegate tasks or even write an email themselves just because they are in a foreign country.
Hi guys,
Just came back from China after almost a month vacation, I'm glad to see so many awesome pictures taken of the GMK Camping set.
I'm pretty glad with the final result of the set except the tranlucent key. But it is what it is now.
To answer some of the questions above. Regarding to the information I received, all proxies have shipped out their orders except Kono.
The Kono package had some problem with import, and finally has arrived in their warehouse last week.
I guess shipping will start soon, extras will be available by then.
The mouse pads will be available on Massdrop for those who missed the GB. (Novelkey has some extras as well)
I want to thank you all for your patients along way with this GB and hope you all enjoy CAMPING!
Thanks for the update, really appreciate it. Been wanting a set and wondering why Kono gone silent on Camping's status.
Yes, the update is much appreciated. But Kono's radio silence is not. I don't see why someone from Kono couldn't have jumped in on the thread (or blast an email to GB participants) to let us know they were having some issues with receiving instead of keeping us in the dark during kingnestea's absence. Rest of the world receiving theirs while NA waits in silence... not cool guys.
I guess that's because the main team of input club was in China settling Kira production and helping Kalh with their box switches.
And the guy who used to maintain Kono had some kinda of family issues. (his wify complained about him travelling too much ;D)
I don't want to sound like a ****, but there will always be an excuse.
My point is simply that it doesn't take that much time and effort for one person to open a web browser and type out a paragraph. In the time it took someone to answer all the email inquiries about Camping status, they could've just blasted an email out to everyone and saved themselves the trouble.
Kono/InputClub is an established business that handles a lot of transactions (money) at one time. They should have systems in place where tasks get delegated to someone else when the "main team" is away. Posting on the internet or sending an email does not require someone to travel.
Also, in these modern times where we are constantly surrounded by connected technologies, you can't really tell me that someone from the "main team" was not able to remotely delegate tasks or even write an email themselves just because they are in a foreign country.
I'm not going to debate this.
IMO, the most important thing here is getting the sets out.
By famaly issue, maybe I wasn't clear enough, he was on leave due to that.
I tried to get on GH and Reddit to reply to some questions regarding the upcoming SP SA Lime set.
tbh, doing that in China is a pain in the a**.
Honestly, delays are fine and whatever. I think most others will agree with me that open communication is more important than on-time delivery.The Kono package had some problem with import, and finally has arrived in their warehouse last week.
Yes, the update is much appreciated. But Kono's radio silence is not. I don't see why someone from Kono couldn't have jumped in on the thread (or blast an email to GB participants) to let us know they were having some issues with receiving instead of keeping us in the dark during kingnestea's absence. Rest of the world receiving theirs while NA waits in silence... not cool guys.
And the guy who used to maintain Kono had some kinda of family issues.
I don't want to sound like a ****, but there will always be an excuse.
I'm not going to debate this.
By famaly issue, maybe I wasn't clear enough, he was on leave due to that.
All I honestly wanted was some sort of accountability.
I've said it before that the mechboard community is great because of the people in it, not because of the awesome products that get made. You, as a very visible member of the community, should strive to make the community better by improving on the things that leave some people with a bitter taste in their mouth about this community/hobby.
Honestly, delays are fine and whatever. I think most others will agree with me that open communication is more important than on-time delivery.The Kono package had some problem with import, and finally has arrived in their warehouse last week.
Yes, the update is much appreciated. But Kono's radio silence is not. I don't see why someone from Kono couldn't have jumped in on the thread (or blast an email to GB participants) to let us know they were having some issues with receiving instead of keeping us in the dark during kingnestea's absence. Rest of the world receiving theirs while NA waits in silence... not cool guys.
And the guy who used to maintain Kono had some kinda of family issues.
I don't want to sound like a ****, but there will always be an excuse.
I'm not going to debate this.
By famaly issue, maybe I wasn't clear enough, he was on leave due to that.
All I honestly wanted was some sort of accountability.
Having worked in many small companies and startups, I completely disagree. I empathize with the need for an employee to connect with family and applaud an employer that prefers to allow that to ensure they have a happy employee. In a small enough company, a single extremely productive individual can cause small, unexpected interruptions when they leave. The company learns from the experience and evolves to document procedures and distribute tasks more deliberately.
Our notices about it have been delayed, but I think they've been extremely open in ecplaining the limitations of their business. Quite frankly I think we're seeing a degree of honesty and intimacy in the operations of these companies that isn't normally shared with customers, exactly because this is a community, and most people here should understand that everyone has needs, so they have IMHO gone above and beyond in accounting for their shortcoming in delayed notification to the community.Quote from: dohmainI've said it before that the mechboard community is great because of the people in it, not because of the awesome products that get made. You, as a very visible member of the community, should strive to make the community better by improving on the things that leave some people with a bitter taste in their mouth about this community/hobby.
As a relative noob to the mechanical keyboard community in general, and GH in particular, I'd like to do exactly this by making amends to mgsickler and kingnestea for being so whiny about missing out on the desk mats. It's a small thing, relatively, but I was caught off guard when the first I heard about it the GB was closed. I'm still super excited about this set and another shot at the pads!
Hi guys,
Just came back from China after almost a month vacation, I'm glad to see so many awesome pictures taken of the GMK Camping set.
I'm pretty glad with the final result of the set except the tranlucent key. But it is what it is now.
To answer some of the questions above. Regarding to the information I received, all proxies have shipped out their orders except Kono.
The Kono package had some problem with import, and finally has arrived in their warehouse last week.
I guess shipping will start soon, extras will be available by then.
The mouse pads will be available on Massdrop for those who missed the GB. (Novelkey has some extras as well)
I want to thank you all for your patients along way with this GB and hope you all enjoy CAMPING!
Thanks for the update, really appreciate it. Been wanting a set and wondering why Kono gone silent on Camping's status.
Yes, the update is much appreciated. But Kono's radio silence is not. I don't see why someone from Kono couldn't have jumped in on the thread (or blast an email to GB participants) to let us know they were having some issues with receiving instead of keeping us in the dark during kingnestea's absence. Rest of the world receiving theirs while NA waits in silence... not cool guys.
I guess that's because the main team of input club was in China settling Kira production and helping Kalh with their box switches.
And the guy who used to maintain Kono had some kinda of family issues. (his wify complained about him travelling too much ;D)
I don't want to sound like a ****, but there will always be an excuse.
My point is simply that it doesn't take that much time and effort for one person to open a web browser and type out a paragraph. In the time it took someone to answer all the email inquiries about Camping status, they could've just blasted an email out to everyone and saved themselves the trouble.
Kono/InputClub is an established business that handles a lot of transactions (money) at one time. They should have systems in place where tasks get delegated to someone else when the "main team" is away. Posting on the internet or sending an email does not require someone to travel.
Also, in these modern times where we are constantly surrounded by connected technologies, you can't really tell me that someone from the "main team" was not able to remotely delegate tasks or even write an email themselves just because they are in a foreign country.
I'm not going to debate this.
IMO, the most important thing here is getting the sets out.
By famaly issue, maybe I wasn't clear enough, he was on leave due to that.
I tried to get on GH and Reddit to reply to some questions regarding the upcoming SP SA Lime set.
tbh, doing that in China is a pain in the a**.
Sorry. I wasn't looking for a debate. Admittedly, I did vent a little bit. But neither of that is helpful.
Honestly, delays are fine and whatever. I think most others will agree with me that open communication is more important than on-time delivery.
All I honestly wanted was some sort of accountability.
"Hey guys, sorry but the team was away working on something major and we overlooked assigning someone to handle communications with you guys. It won't happen again since we're putting systems in place to prevent this. We expect to ship your keycaps by xxxxxxx."
However, the attitude I got from your last reply was pretty much, "it is what it is, stop complaining, the keycaps are coming".
I understand that you run GBs and have to deal with people hounding you down all the time and are probably sick and tired of it. But still... I've said it before that the mechboard community is great because of the people in it, not because of the awesome products that get made. You, as a very visible member of the community, should strive to make the community better by improving on the things that leave some people with a bitter taste in their mouth about this community/hobby.
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I can understand that they may prefer to spend their time in something which really helps move a project rather than replying queries which will not help progress anything but just to make someone comfortable and happy.
*snip*
*snip*I've found that people in this community will generally be very accepting of delays and very supportive of your situation as long as you're open about it and try to update regularly compared to just going radio silent.
I can understand that they may prefer to spend their time in something which really helps move a project rather than replying queries which will not help progress anything but just to make someone comfortable and happy.
*snip*
I tried to explain what happened, and you sounded like I don't give a fk about why Kono wasn't communicating.
I feel really sorry for you guys who joined with Kono and get delayed without comminucation, but please do not sound like it was my bad.
I run the whole GB and am not part of any proxies, my responsibility is a great product.
Fulfillment is delegated to all the proxies. I can not tell them what to do, especially when it comes down to company priovity.
I thought Kono sent out mails everytime there is a progress, didn't they?
Extremely unprofessional from Kono to not even fire out an email to the buyers of the GB. Honestly it doesn't take more than 15 - 30 minutes to do so. Family emergency, or business trip, or whatever, you name it, you can still fire off an email explaining there's delays and that there will be a new ETA.
Even since the first delay, I had to find out secondhand and not from Kono. It's amateur hour over here.
Extremely unprofessional from Kono to not even fire out an email to the buyers of the GB.
Extremely unprofessional from Kono to not even fire out an email to the buyers of the GB.
Did you not get the email they sent out on the 29th? They didn't update anyone because they had no idea what was going on with their distribution center. I agree that it would have been better for them to tell us that they were having issues and they didn't have an ETA, but it's somewhat understandable that they wanted to wait until they knew what was happening. Here it is for anyone who didn't get it:MoreInformation about our blunder of the highest magnitude.
Community Members,
We have an important update about Kono’s recent store-wide shipping delays. Fixing the distribution system was our top priority, and information was scarce, so we had to gather more details before sending a report to you. Note that GMK Camping will begin shipping within the next 24 hours (if it hasn’t already). We apologize for the delays.
A series of events culminated in a complete shipping stoppage at our distribution center. When GMK Camping arrived, we anticipated a quick departure to customers. Instead, we faced a variety of problems that stonewalled all Kono shipping (including Lime).
GMK Camping arrived with incorrect weight labeling, which automatically moved it to the back of the check-in queue. We were not made aware of that labeling mismatch. It also wasn’t the core issue. Once we noticed that orders weren’t shipping, we frantically emailed and called our account manager. He did not reply. Eventually, we turned to informal communication channels. Those channels revealed (after significant amounts of time, effort, and corporate ladder climbing) that our account manager left the company a few days prior. We were not given a new account manager or made aware of the development. In addition, our warehouse support engineers failed to recognize the problem we faced.
The weight labeling was not the root cause of our shipping delays. In short, Shopify changed their API without telling third party integration partners (which affected other stores as well). The alteration caused errors between Shopify and our warehouse that effectively cut all intersystem communications. New orders, therefore, were not shipped. Some older orders may have shipped without email notifications and / or tracking information (we’ll fix any issues that arise).
The fiasco will be completely resolved after a few days of recovery work and communications with our new account manager. As of now, we’re essentially up and running at full speed. Kono is actively investigating other fulfillment solutions as well, though we aren’t sure if we will switch yet.
Thank you so much for your patience. We were in the dark about the situation for quite some time, so we’re incredibly glad to have such a passionate and supportive community behind us.
If you have any questions or concerns, please reach out to us via support@kono.store.
Thank you,
The Kono Team
And here's the update they sent out just today:MoreKono Community,
The shipping delays are over. GMK Camping, Lime, and all other items are moving. Later orders (after Tuesday 8/28) were sent and paired with automated tracking emails properly.
If you haven’t received tracking info yet, don’t worry. We had to manually recreate all affected orders and send them to the warehouse for processing. The custom submission was a lengthy and involved task. It also doesn’t sync with our automated email system.
We’ll manually enter / email the tracking information for most people this weekend. All tracking information (barring any unique exceptions) should be live by next week Wednesday. If you haven’t received tracking by then, please contact support@kono.store.
GMK Camping extras will be available in the latter part of next week. We want to ensure that all Camping orders are on the way before offering extras on Kono.
Thanks again for your patience! We’re glad that everything is on the right track.
- The Kono Team
I haven't gotten a shipping notice from Kono but my USPS informed delivery shows that the Kono warehouse printed a shipping label for me today ^-^
Extremely unprofessional from Kono to not even fire out an email to the buyers of the GB.
Did you not get the email they sent out on the 29th? They didn't update anyone because they had no idea what was going on with their distribution center. I agree that it would have been better for them to tell us that they were having issues and they didn't have an ETA, but it's somewhat understandable that they wanted to wait until they knew what was happening. Here it is for anyone who didn't get it:MoreInformation about our blunder of the highest magnitude.
Community Members,
We have an important update about Kono’s recent store-wide shipping delays. Fixing the distribution system was our top priority, and information was scarce, so we had to gather more details before sending a report to you. Note that GMK Camping will begin shipping within the next 24 hours (if it hasn’t already). We apologize for the delays.
A series of events culminated in a complete shipping stoppage at our distribution center. When GMK Camping arrived, we anticipated a quick departure to customers. Instead, we faced a variety of problems that stonewalled all Kono shipping (including Lime).
GMK Camping arrived with incorrect weight labeling, which automatically moved it to the back of the check-in queue. We were not made aware of that labeling mismatch. It also wasn’t the core issue. Once we noticed that orders weren’t shipping, we frantically emailed and called our account manager. He did not reply. Eventually, we turned to informal communication channels. Those channels revealed (after significant amounts of time, effort, and corporate ladder climbing) that our account manager left the company a few days prior. We were not given a new account manager or made aware of the development. In addition, our warehouse support engineers failed to recognize the problem we faced.
The weight labeling was not the root cause of our shipping delays. In short, Shopify changed their API without telling third party integration partners (which affected other stores as well). The alteration caused errors between Shopify and our warehouse that effectively cut all intersystem communications. New orders, therefore, were not shipped. Some older orders may have shipped without email notifications and / or tracking information (we’ll fix any issues that arise).
The fiasco will be completely resolved after a few days of recovery work and communications with our new account manager. As of now, we’re essentially up and running at full speed. Kono is actively investigating other fulfillment solutions as well, though we aren’t sure if we will switch yet.
Thank you so much for your patience. We were in the dark about the situation for quite some time, so we’re incredibly glad to have such a passionate and supportive community behind us.
If you have any questions or concerns, please reach out to us via support@kono.store.
Thank you,
The Kono Team
And here's the update they sent out just today:MoreKono Community,
The shipping delays are over. GMK Camping, Lime, and all other items are moving. Later orders (after Tuesday 8/28) were sent and paired with automated tracking emails properly.
If you haven’t received tracking info yet, don’t worry. We had to manually recreate all affected orders and send them to the warehouse for processing. The custom submission was a lengthy and involved task. It also doesn’t sync with our automated email system.
We’ll manually enter / email the tracking information for most people this weekend. All tracking information (barring any unique exceptions) should be live by next week Wednesday. If you haven’t received tracking by then, please contact support@kono.store.
GMK Camping extras will be available in the latter part of next week. We want to ensure that all Camping orders are on the way before offering extras on Kono.
Thanks again for your patience! We’re glad that everything is on the right track.
- The Kono Team
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UPS plz
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UPS plz
Ouch. I swear UPS is getting slower and slower. I ordered something last friday (8/31), and it said Wednesday delivery so I thought I would be getting it today. But little did I know, it said Wednesday 9/12/18... UPS PLS
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UPS plz
Ouch. I swear UPS is getting slower and slower. I ordered something last friday (8/31), and it said Wednesday delivery so I thought I would be getting it today. But little did I know, it said Wednesday 9/12/18... UPS PLS
Depends on delivery address relative to the origin point, I suppose. I live in California and half the time UPS delivers a day ahead of schedule. It's happened with both Ground and SurePost services.
Anyone interested in selling their camping set? :cool:
Anyone interested in selling their camping set? :cool:
Seems to be in stock for sale now: https://kono.store/products/gmk-camping
Got mine in today, caps look great. On a side note keyset was shipped in poly bag that arrived half open. Thankfully nothing missing but half of bubble wrap around keyset was off so my plastic tray is cracked and the banderole is bent and pockmarked.
yikes those reviews on the product page
those ****ers are impatient as **** lmao
yikes those reviews on the product page
those ****ers are impatient as **** lmao
I really dislike those types of reviews as they are not reviews of the product itself.
yikes those reviews on the product page
those ****ers are impatient as **** lmao
I really dislike those types of reviews as they are not reviews of the product itself.
Where else are people supposed to show their distaste for a company and their practices?
I don't think anyone would say Kono handled the shipping situation with this set well.
If someone has a problem with the way a company handled a product, and they purchased said product, there's really no better place to put these things.
yikes those reviews on the product page
those ****ers are impatient as **** lmao
I really dislike those types of reviews as they are not reviews of the product itself.
Where else are people supposed to show their distaste for a company and their practices?
I don't think anyone would say Kono handled the shipping situation with this set well.
If someone has a problem with the way a company handled a product, and they purchased said product, there's really no better place to put these things.
I don't have an answer for you in this case, but those reviews are still not representative of the product itself. I don't think it's a good practice to tank an individual product's rating when the ire is directed at the company as a whole. Amazon, for example, has seller feedback separate from product reviews.
yikes those reviews on the product page
those ****ers are impatient as **** lmao
I really dislike those types of reviews as they are not reviews of the product itself.
Where else are people supposed to show their distaste for a company and their practices?
I don't think anyone would say Kono handled the shipping situation with this set well.
If someone has a problem with the way a company handled a product, and they purchased said product, there's really no better place to put these things.
I don't have an answer for you in this case, but those reviews are still not representative of the product itself. I don't think it's a good practice to tank an individual product's rating when the ire is directed at the company as a whole. Amazon, for example, has seller feedback separate from product reviews.
Amazon has also created a site where additional sellers can sell products. Kono is an individual seller.
Maybe if Kono had a "provide overall feedback for our lack of communication skills here" button right on the main page, people could use that. As it stands now, there isn't one, so people use what they can to leave feedback.
Camping Deskpad Updates
- We expect to have the shipment of deskpads sometime towards the end of next week. Once we get them, we will ship out.
- There will be a few extras available. We will announce when they are for sale.
Thanks again The_judge_168 for letting me know it was in stock.
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Some more shots here:
https://imgur.com/gallery/zlQHyJa
Probably won't keep it on this board for long, but it looks nice here.