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« on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 16:59:12 »






The buy will begin shortly after I receive the sample (about 2.5 weeks away).

The sample + production will be made at the same factory as Leandren's Fjell. You can view the thread here; quality is very good and the factory are great to work with. I understand the quality for X60 and lead times was disappointing, so I aim to improve greatly on both these aspects. Overall, everything should be better since I have the experience and knowledge I didn't have for X60.

Sample Pictures:


Case Information:
  • 6061 Aluminum
  • 8 Degrees Angle
  • Brass Weight with Engravings
  • Thinnest Top Mount Bezels (4.6/3mm)
  • 14.7mm Front Face
  • Optional .5u Blocker

Supported Layouts:


Plates:
  • Top Mounted Plate with Switch Opening
  • Universal or 68 Key Plate
  • Clear Polycarbonate, Anodized Aluminum, or Polished Brass
  • Partial Polycarbonate 68 Key Available
PCB:
  • Custom QMK PCB by Rozakiin
  • Presoldered Controller, Diodes & Resistors
  • Mini USB
  • Interchangable For winkeyless.kr 22mini



268 AG:
  • 22 Units
  • Anodizing or Cerakoting
  • Brass Weight with Individual Numbering
  • Polycarbonate, Aluminium, or Brass Plate
268L:
  • 20 Units
  • Dark Gray or Silver Case
  • Brass Weight
  • Polycarbonate, or Red Aluminium Plate
The design for 268L will be ran again, hence the lower initial quantity. 268L will feature a weight similar to the 356.2.

Price:
  • Case (Top/Weight/Bottom) - $320
  • PCB - $30
  • Aluminum Plate - $30
  • Brass Plate - $30
  • Polycarbonate Plate - $40
Shipping:

I'll be shipping with DHL Express again, with most packages taking 1-3 days for a good price. I'll be shipping from the United Kingdom; local taxes and fees apply. Estimates for shipping are as follows: United States - $40; United Kingdom - $20; Europe - $30-35; Asia - $50-60.

Deadline & Lead Times:

I'll allow 1 week after starting for payment. After this, the order can be submitted to the factory and will take about 6-8 weeks to arrive.
« Last Edit: Sun, 17 September 2017, 15:02:15 by xondat »

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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 17:10:48 »
literally a rectangle with brass 0/10

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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 17:41:57 »
Is this not literally the RS84 special edition, brass and all.?

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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 17:44:58 »
Is this not literally the RS84 special edition, brass and all.?
The two look nothing alike, aside from the form factor. Git out.

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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 17:47:01 »
Is this not literally the RS84 special edition, brass and all.?

Form factor is the same. Every 60% is a Pok3r so I see where you're coming from.

Feel free to show me a picture of it looking like mine :))

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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 17:49:09 »
I know where you're coming from.

And I guess yours is solid walled etc.
But the brass bit is super similar.

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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 17:50:28 »
Didn't even know this existed.

My weight is on the inside, opposite to the RS84. I can show you a range of kustoms with weights though, it's pretty normal.







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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 17:50:38 »
I know where you're coming from.

And I guess yours is solid walled etc.
But the brass bit is super similar.
How unique can one make a rectangle of brass? It's not even mounted on the same face by the way.

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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 17:54:18 »
I guess I'm just a big n00b, I'll sit down.

I'm sorry.

I didn't realise that brass weights were such a thing. Had only seen on the RS84, which is also 75%.

As such looks cool, 75% appears to be the sweet spot for me.

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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 17:55:57 »
I guess I'm just a big n00b, I'll sit down.

I'm sorry.

I didn't realise that brass weights were such a thing. Had only seen on the RS84, which is also 75%.

As such looks cool, 75% appears to be the sweet spot for me.

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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 18:10:48 »
Great work Xondat! Very impressive that you dived straight in and came out with this  :D Looks like a fun project to test out your new found abilities - best of luck with it!  :-*
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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 18:14:53 »
Looks like a serious 75% case to me.

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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 07:43:18 »
Looks great mate, you should've used sketchup though ;)

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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 06:45:52 »
Just got quoted - "it would cost over 500 at least". This is for one, anodized with the weight. That's $730 for people that use USD.

Anyway my goal for today is to try a different layout, 60%, and see if I can finish with a case/plate/weight like this.

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Re: Custom 75% Case
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 18:34:34 »


This is currently what I'm working on.

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Re: Custom 75% Case (& 60% In Development)
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 10 June 2016, 10:57:46 »




Getting closer to finishing this. I just need to add a couple of finishing touches and it'll be done for now.

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Re: Xondat's Keyboard Design Stuff
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 19:47:06 »
Dumping final pictures and renders of the X60 here and will post pictures of what I'm up to tomorrow. I finished the base model for a TKL, and will finish up a 75%. Numpad work will start as soon as I'm happy all my designs are accurate.












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Re: Xondat's Keyboard Design Stuff
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 15 July 2016, 19:51:31 »
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Re: Xondat's Keyboard Design Stuff
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 16 July 2016, 16:00:02 »
75% and TKL bases complete. Numpad development is going on now. :))






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Re: Xondat's Keyboard Design Stuff
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 16 July 2016, 17:10:10 »






Wasn't too difficult. Going to take suggestions on what next - someone has said ergodox (ew).
« Last Edit: Sat, 16 July 2016, 17:14:25 by xondat »

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Re: Xondat's Keyboard Design Stuff
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 16 July 2016, 19:22:18 »
really want that 75% ;D

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Re: Xondat's Keyboard Design Stuff
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 16 July 2016, 20:31:38 »
OH! Look! It's every other keyboard that exists!
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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 31 August 2016, 20:02:46 »
I made a little guide to help the lost firebort get back on track... It was using a layout idea by switchnollie and then vamped by frostytoast.



http://imgur.com/a/i6IRw

If someone can make a PCB for this, I'll have a few made because it looks fun :))

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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 01 September 2016, 10:09:00 »
I would really like to see something like that but with also arrows on the left side.

And more bottom row options for split space
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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 01 September 2016, 16:46:15 »
No idea how I totally missed this thread.

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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 01 September 2016, 17:13:07 »
No idea how I totally missed this thread.
I mean it's nothing significant... I forgot about it until yesterday :))

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« Reply #26 on: Fri, 02 September 2016, 06:24:50 »


**** render but im still learning, new one in a bit

had a request for a blocker on a 75% to separate the arrow keys and whatever, most likely will offer it when i release this


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« Reply #27 on: Fri, 02 September 2016, 09:18:02 »


it's too zoomed out but **** it

probably will put an IC up as I pack 60S, and launch when I'm done I guess

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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 05 September 2016, 10:30:13 »
any idea when when this will be released?

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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 05 September 2016, 11:13:35 »
any idea when when this will be released?

X75? November providing everything goes to plan.

Going to finish X60 first.
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« Reply #30 on: Mon, 17 October 2016, 13:52:52 »



I updated the OP to show everything I plan on doing in the next 6 months that I've revealed :)

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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 17 October 2016, 18:34:26 »
Dat 75%.  One with Gateron reds would be fantastic.

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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 17 October 2016, 21:44:31 »
Where/how do you get the physical product produced?

Any tips for using CAD software? Trying some out right now but I feel like a moron trying to use it.
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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 18 October 2016, 15:22:31 »
Would love to see your take on a 96% board in the future. We desperately need one without LED diffusers la ZZ96 & RS96. Absolutely love the style of just plain aluminum without anything unnecessary :)

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« Reply #34 on: Tue, 18 October 2016, 18:54:29 »
Where/how do you get the physical product produced?

Any tips for using CAD software?
Lots of searching for the perfect manufacturer. Pour hundreds of hours into practice and understanding how it all works. I probably did 100 in the first couple of weeks.

Would love to see your take on a 96% board in the future. We desperately need one without LED diffusers la ZZ96 & RS96. Absolutely love the style of just plain aluminum without anything unnecessary :)
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« Reply #35 on: Tue, 15 November 2016, 16:15:52 »
Updated.

X65 will come before X75, just confirming some information before I officially start a thread or something.

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« Reply #36 on: Tue, 15 November 2016, 16:17:26 »
Updated.

X65 will come before X75, just confirming some information before I officially start a thread or something.
Darn :P

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« Reply #37 on: Tue, 15 November 2016, 16:40:25 »
Actually, I need to expand further.

For future releases (X65, X75, etc), they will be in rounds of 25 and each design will max out at either 50 or 100. I want to do rounds to break everything up a bit, but also it gives flexibility to what I run. For example, I could do X65 R1 December, then X75 R1 January, then X65 R2 February etc. It works for everyone. This also allows me to fulfill rounds/orders much quicker, as the parts will already be machined, so I'd start the GB and within a week they should be ready to ship to me as they'd only need anodizing.

I'll also be changing the colors I use, this is all very much in the air right now, but it's looking like I'll be dropping Gold. Dark Gray and Silver are here to stay, Red most likely is too. I'm uncertain about the future of Black, Dark Blue and Purple. Most of this depends on how I like the color when I actually see it on a board (X60 production). I've also been thinking about introducing a custom, user-polled color for each round, so for example, X65 R1 might have a Sky Blue, and then X65 R2 might have Viper Green.

Regarding "Edition" boards, the future of those is uncertain. I personally like having numbered, and/or limited things, but I'm aware some people also get rather annoyed which ruins it for some people that actually enjoy it. It also might **** with the aftermarket price, but that isn't a massive concern. I really like the Carbon Edition, but I feel like it limits the users that chose that too much, so I'll have to rethink that.

For PCBs, now that I'm not using a universal platform (60%), I have to either outsource or learn how to do it myself. This is why X65 is coming a lot sooner, as I was going to be learning how to make my own, and then releasing it with my own custom PCB. X75 was always going to be sooner, as I would've used the winkeyless b.mini and then that would've delayed enough until I knew how to make my own for X65. Instead, I've been in talks with someone and they'll be supplying the PCBs for X65 so in the meantime I'll learn how to design PCBs.

And finally, just because it needed to be mentioned, there will be no group buys until I have fulfilled X60. However, there probably will be teases/interest checks up until then. Oh and if anyone read all of this, please leave some feedback/discussion points on your thoughts. Thanks!

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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 15 November 2016, 17:00:23 »
I really like that you're aiming for such fast rounds. Sometimes planning builds 6 months in advance can get tiring. Do you know what firmware your pcbs will be supporting yet?

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« Reply #39 on: Tue, 15 November 2016, 18:57:40 »
I really like that you're aiming for such fast rounds. Sometimes planning builds 6 months in advance can get tiring. Do you know what firmware your pcbs will be supporting yet?
X65 will be a modified version of TMK, I'll probably follow the same path, but honestly I've not looked into it yet so I don't really know much about firmware.

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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 16 November 2016, 07:37:05 »
will it be possible, to order the 65% PCB separately?
great work!

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« Reply #41 on: Wed, 16 November 2016, 07:38:59 »
will it be possible, to order the 65% PCB separately?
great work!
Not from me no, you'd also have the problem of finding a case for the PCB although I think the designer of the PCB is doing a lower cost case.

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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 16 November 2016, 08:07:39 »
Actually, I need to expand further.

For future releases (X65, X75, etc), they will be in rounds of 25 and each design will max out at either 50 or 100. I want to do rounds to break everything up a bit, but also it gives flexibility to what I run. For example, I could do X65 R1 December, then X75 R1 January, then X65 R2 February etc. It works for everyone. This also allows me to fulfill rounds/orders much quicker, as the parts will already be machined, so I'd start the GB and within a week they should be ready to ship to me as they'd only need anodizing.

I'll also be changing the colors I use, this is all very much in the air right now, but it's looking like I'll be dropping Gold. Dark Gray and Silver are here to stay, Red most likely is too. I'm uncertain about the future of Black, Dark Blue and Purple. Most of this depends on how I like the color when I actually see it on a board (X60 production). I've also been thinking about introducing a custom, user-polled color for each round, so for example, X65 R1 might have a Sky Blue, and then X65 R2 might have Viper Green.

Regarding "Edition" boards, the future of those is uncertain. I personally like having numbered, and/or limited things, but I'm aware some people also get rather annoyed which ruins it for some people that actually enjoy it. It also might **** with the aftermarket price, but that isn't a massive concern. I really like the Carbon Edition, but I feel like it limits the users that chose that too much, so I'll have to rethink that.

For PCBs, now that I'm not using a universal platform (60%), I have to either outsource or learn how to do it myself. This is why X65 is coming a lot sooner, as I was going to be learning how to make my own, and then releasing it with my own custom PCB. X75 was always going to be sooner, as I would've used the winkeyless b.mini and then that would've delayed enough until I knew how to make my own for X65. Instead, I've been in talks with someone and they'll be supplying the PCBs for X65 so in the meantime I'll learn how to design PCBs.

And finally, just because it needed to be mentioned, there will be no group buys until I have fulfilled X60. However, there probably will be teases/interest checks up until then. Oh and if anyone read all of this, please leave some feedback/discussion points on your thoughts. Thanks!

:thumb:

Everything looks great xondat. Plans are well thought out and fairly clear for everyone interested. And THANK YOU for prioritizing the GB's you're currently working on versus ones that are still in the development. It's way better to get one thing out the door then be micromanaging many different things in my opinion.

Can't wait to see what's in store with your future designs. That dark grey and red color scheme you always preview is really growing on me. Maybe that's what I'll get when X75 rolls around.

Stop stealing all my money and good luck with all your endeavors. :thumb:

EDIT: Also, when designing the 65% PCB, for the love of god, do not make the USB in the center of the PCB. :p
« Last Edit: Wed, 16 November 2016, 08:15:55 by Fictiouz »
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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 16 November 2016, 08:11:43 »
Not from me no, you'd also have the problem of finding a case for the PCB although I think the designer of the PCB is doing a lower cost case.

thanks for your quick reply.

damn, i cant find no 65% pcb being sold separately anywhere. i do like your case-design. but i want to make my own. i have experience in lasering alu and folding, so it is really not a big deal for me. since i will not design my own caps nor pcb, the case is the only chance for me to give it a more personal note.

any idea where i could find a 65% pcb?
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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 16 November 2016, 08:12:12 »
I made a little guide to help the lost firebort get back on track... It was using a layout idea by switchnollie and then vamped by frostytoast.

Show Image


http://imgur.com/a/i6IRw

If someone can make a PCB for this, I'll have a few made because it looks fun :))

Just saw this now. This layout gets me hot and bothered.

If this supports HHKB Num row, ANSI Enter and uses short right shift I would wait a lifetime for this layout.

EDIT: Missed the album. See the design better now. Maybe not what I thought, but still a neat design!
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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 16 November 2016, 20:44:44 »
I made a little guide to help the lost firebort get back on track... It was using a layout idea by switchnollie and then vamped by frostytoast.

Show Image


http://imgur.com/a/i6IRw

If someone can make a PCB for this, I'll have a few made because it looks fun :))

Just saw this now. This layout gets me hot and bothered.

If this supports HHKB Num row, ANSI Enter and uses short right shift I would wait a lifetime for this layout.

EDIT: Missed the album. See the design better now. Maybe not what I thought, but still a neat design!

If you have a dream layout and money you could always build it yourself, or pay someone like me to build it for you :)
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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 17 November 2016, 00:44:48 »
Actually, I need to expand further.

For future releases (X65, X75, etc), they will be in rounds of 25 and each design will max out at either 50 or 100. I want to do rounds to break everything up a bit, but also it gives flexibility to what I run. For example, I could do X65 R1 December, then X75 R1 January, then X65 R2 February etc. It works for everyone. This also allows me to fulfill rounds/orders much quicker, as the parts will already be machined, so I'd start the GB and within a week they should be ready to ship to me as they'd only need anodizing.

I'll also be changing the colors I use, this is all very much in the air right now, but it's looking like I'll be dropping Gold. Dark Gray and Silver are here to stay, Red most likely is too. I'm uncertain about the future of Black, Dark Blue and Purple. Most of this depends on how I like the color when I actually see it on a board (X60 production). I've also been thinking about introducing a custom, user-polled color for each round, so for example, X65 R1 might have a Sky Blue, and then X65 R2 might have Viper Green.

Regarding "Edition" boards, the future of those is uncertain. I personally like having numbered, and/or limited things, but I'm aware some people also get rather annoyed which ruins it for some people that actually enjoy it. It also might **** with the aftermarket price, but that isn't a massive concern. I really like the Carbon Edition, but I feel like it limits the users that chose that too much, so I'll have to rethink that.

For PCBs, now that I'm not using a universal platform (60%), I have to either outsource or learn how to do it myself. This is why X65 is coming a lot sooner, as I was going to be learning how to make my own, and then releasing it with my own custom PCB. X75 was always going to be sooner, as I would've used the winkeyless b.mini and then that would've delayed enough until I knew how to make my own for X65. Instead, I've been in talks with someone and they'll be supplying the PCBs for X65 so in the meantime I'll learn how to design PCBs.

And finally, just because it needed to be mentioned, there will be no group buys until I have fulfilled X60. However, there probably will be teases/interest checks up until then. Oh and if anyone read all of this, please leave some feedback/discussion points on your thoughts. Thanks!

:thumb:

I like that you're changing things up to finish projects one at a time. I look forward to different colorways and options in the future. If there was an option of purple anodizing with the x75 that would be some end game stuff for me. I was already considering having the plate re-anodized to be purple but I still can't find anyone local that is up to my standards. Don't make me beg for purple.  :-X

I, too, like the limited nature of things. This will (hopefully) be my 3rd 75% and I'm kinda crazy and wouldn't be opposed to owning multiple x75s if they offered feature sets that made them unique enough to own multiples.

I just had a custom PCB designed for an ortholinear layout so if you need people to talk to, just send me a PM. It was more cost-effective than I thought it'd be.
 

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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 21 November 2016, 20:03:47 »
damn, i cant find no 65% pcb being sold separately anywhere. i do like your case-design. but i want to make my own. i have experience in lasering alu and folding, so it is really not a big deal for me. since i will not design my own caps nor pcb, the case is the only chance for me to give it a more personal note.

any idea where i could find a 65% pcb?
I believe the PCB I will be offering will be available on its own slightly after mine. My 65% PCB could also be sold separately on request, but will be packaged with my designs.

Everything looks great xondat. Plans are well thought out and fairly clear for everyone interested. And THANK YOU for prioritizing the GB's you're currently working on versus ones that are still in the development. It's way better to get one thing out the door then be micromanaging many different things in my opinion.

Can't wait to see what's in store with your future designs. That dark grey and red color scheme you always preview is really growing on me. Maybe that's what I'll get when X75 rolls around.

Stop stealing all my money and good luck with all your endeavors. :thumb:

EDIT: Also, when designing the 65% PCB, for the love of god, do not make the USB in the center of the PCB. :p
You're too kind :-* The 65% PCB will be centered so it works with X65 and another design. Why should it not be centered?

Just saw this now. This layout gets me hot and bothered.

If this supports HHKB Num row, ANSI Enter and uses short right shift I would wait a lifetime for this layout.

EDIT: Missed the album. See the design better now. Maybe not what I thought, but still a neat design!
I will probably do this one day for fun. What was the design you thought it was?

I like that you're changing things up to finish projects one at a time. I look forward to different colorways and options in the future. If there was an option of purple anodizing with the x75 that would be some end game stuff for me. I was already considering having the plate re-anodized to be purple but I still can't find anyone local that is up to my standards. Don't make me beg for purple.  :-X

I, too, like the limited nature of things. This will (hopefully) be my 3rd 75% and I'm kinda crazy and wouldn't be opposed to owning multiple x75s if they offered feature sets that made them unique enough to own multiples.

I just had a custom PCB designed for an ortholinear layout so if you need people to talk to, just send me a PM. It was more cost-effective than I thought it'd be.
I can't remember if I mentioned it, but the Blue and Purple I ordered with X60 are test colors, so you might see those in the future without having to beg. When I get started properly with PCB design, I'll be sure to message you.

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« Reply #48 on: Sun, 11 December 2016, 16:30:16 »


It might be obvious, but this is a tray mount 60% case that I'll have readily available on my store next year along with my sandwich style case. The dimensions are identical to X60, including the height of the sides. It's compatible with all tray style cases, unless the corners on your plate isn't rounded.

Naming wise, either XT60 or T60. XT60 is a reference to my poor attempt last year at a tray mount case, but I didn't actually know anything to do with CAD. T60 is obvious too - Tray 60. It'll fit with my scheme which will be X (Flagship), T (Tray), and N (Sandwich). We'll stick with T60 for now.

I'll be getting this prototyped and shipped with X60 weights, along with N60. I'll post a picture of N60 in the next few days once I've finished the last little details.

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Re: xondat's projects
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 14 December 2016, 09:41:09 »
Damn, awesome stuff!
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