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Offline ullr

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[IC] Black SA blanks
« on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 14:22:51 »
I have wanted a set of sculpted SA blanks for a long time, and it seems to me that a group buy is long overdue.

I think a maximalist layout is not a bad idea considering the price will hopefully be lower than that of a set of double shot or dyed caps.

I was tentatively considering two kits, one for fairly normal layouts from full sized to 60%, and one for more uncommon layouts



Let me know if you think coverage is lacking in any way, or what color is a good idea. Everything is up for debate including how (where?) the group buy is held.
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Offline gnmar2723

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 16:24:58 »
If you're going to do this in black, do NN. I think that is the most common black from SA sets as it was featured in Pulse and Modern Selectric.
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Offline zslane

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 17:42:32 »
NN is the closest thing SP has to a true BLACK for SA. Unfortunately, not all row profiles are available for all key sizes. Row 1 is particularly hard to find. There may even be some sizes for which there are no rows available at all right now.
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Offline sodiumjoe

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 11 July 2017, 22:01:08 »
Instabuy. Please let's do this. The only thing I need that I don't see is an extra left shift (to fill out an fc660c).

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Offline ullr

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 00:20:31 »
Quote from: zslane on Tue, 11 July 2017, 17:42:32
NN is the closest thing SP has to a true BLACK for SA. Unfortunately, not all row profiles are available for all key sizes. Row 1 is particularly hard to find. There may even be some sizes for which there are no rows available at all right now.

Are the capabilities for blank keycap molding somehow different from double shot? Every key in the image has been produced with a double shot legend AFAIK.

Quote from: sodiumjoe on Tue, 11 July 2017, 22:01:08
Instabuy. Please let's do this. The only thing I need that I don't see is an extra left shift (to fill out an fc660c).

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There is an extra in the second to last row, the last key. I’ll update the image with sizes for clarity.
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Offline sodiumjoe

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 00:26:28 »
Quote from: ullr on Wed, 12 July 2017, 00:20:31
Quote from: zslane on Tue, 11 July 2017, 17:42:32
NN is the closest thing SP has to a true BLACK for SA. Unfortunately, not all row profiles are available for all key sizes. Row 1 is particularly hard to find. There may even be some sizes for which there are no rows available at all right now.

Are the capabilities for blank keycap molding somehow different from double shot? Every key in the image has been produced with a double shot legend AFAIK.

Quote from: sodiumjoe on Tue, 11 July 2017, 22:01:08
Instabuy. Please let's do this. The only thing I need that I don't see is an extra left shift (to fill out an fc660c).

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There is an extra in the second to last row, the last key. I’ll update the image with sizes for clarity.

Fantastic. I'm in for two.
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Offline zslane

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 12:09:27 »
Quote from: ullr on Wed, 12 July 2017, 00:20:31
Are the capabilities for blank keycap molding somehow different from double shot? Every key in the image has been produced with a double shot legend AFAIK.

No, I was just stupid. I thought you were asking about SA blanks available from the PMK webstore. Apologies for the confusion.
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Offline SteezeTrain

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 13:03:52 »
I would buy this set! I was trying to put together an SA blank set from crapbags. This is much more attractive.
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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 14:40:31 »
Yea, count me in =D
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Offline kimusan

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 15:54:37 »
Count me in. Would love to have this keycaps set
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Offline amnesia0287

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 21:26:48 »
I'd probably buy as long as price wasn't too bad. Though the real question is would blanks still have 9month queue lol


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Offline sodiumjoe

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 12 July 2017, 23:05:05 »
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Offline Krakob

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 13 July 2017, 02:20:50 »
I would definitely be interested if pricing and timing is reasonable. Not really interested if it's going to be $70+ and ship in a year.
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Offline Hazzula

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 13 July 2017, 02:26:52 »
Interested. Saw that blank set on ali express but it didnt have any R1 so this would be better

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Offline giammin

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 13 July 2017, 03:31:56 »
Quote from: Krakob on Thu, 13 July 2017, 02:20:50
I would definitely be interested if pricing and timing is reasonable. Not really interested if it's going to be $70+ and ship in a year.

me too

also interested in a darkgray set...
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Offline ShishKabobJerry

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 13 July 2017, 03:37:39 »
This would be sick.
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Offline toneman77

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 13 July 2017, 04:06:37 »
i am definitely interested.
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Offline sodiumjoe

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 13 July 2017, 11:05:57 »
Hopefully we're talking about PBT for these?
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Offline sodiumjoe

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 15 July 2017, 13:56:09 »
also want to make sure we have deep dish homing keys?

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 15 July 2017, 20:36:00 »
Quote from: sodiumjoe on Thu, 13 July 2017, 11:05:57
Hopefully we're talking about PBT for these?

OP said "sculpted SA" and SP currently only has row 3 molds for PBT SA. So these would have to be ABS.
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Offline sodiumjoe

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 15 July 2017, 21:31:09 »
oh interesting, I didn't realize the same molds couldn't be used for the different plastics. That's unfortunate.

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 15 July 2017, 22:01:50 »
Quote from: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 15 July 2017, 20:36:00
Quote from: sodiumjoe on Thu, 13 July 2017, 11:05:57
Hopefully we're talking about PBT for these?

OP said "sculpted SA" and SP currently only has row 3 molds for PBT SA. So these would have to be ABS.
I have yet to see anything other than R3.
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Offline sodiumjoe

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 15 July 2017, 22:05:01 »
Hmm, well I've only had experience with cheap, thin abs, maybe I could live with sp abs. Are you sure the molds can't be used for either plastic, though? I know kbdfans is offering a blank SA 22333 set, I believe from maxkeys, who has sp's old molds.

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Offline mason

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 15 July 2017, 22:05:57 »
I'm in  :)
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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 16 July 2017, 00:18:01 »
Quote from: sodiumjoe on Sat, 15 July 2017, 22:05:01
Hmm, well I've only had experience with cheap, thin abs, maybe I could live with sp abs. Are you sure the molds can't be used for either plastic, though? I know kbdfans is offering a blank SA 22333 set, I believe from maxkeys, who has sp's old molds.

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Honestly, I really like the feel of the ABS on the SA profile. I haven't tried their new PBT SA sets yet (waiting on sculpted profile). But ABS is not a bad thing as many people make it out to be.
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Offline sodiumjoe

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 16 July 2017, 00:19:29 »
I'm mostly concerned about the sound, I'm planning to try it on my novatouched fc660c.

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 16 July 2017, 06:54:25 »
I'm interested  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 16 July 2017, 14:00:54 »
Really want a numpad blank kit! but will take a kit for sure!
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Offline piercejenkins

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 19 July 2017, 17:01:48 »
Sign me up for this.  Will this be done by maxkey or sp?
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Offline kamilakas

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 20 July 2017, 02:56:59 »
I'm interested

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Offline ullr

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 20 July 2017, 16:31:30 »
Quote from: piercejenkins on Wed, 19 July 2017, 17:01:48
Sign me up for this.  Will this be done by maxkey or sp?

Maxkey does not have the molds for many of the keys in the current configuration, so it would have to be SP I think.
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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 20 July 2017, 17:49:18 »
Quote from: ullr on Thu, 20 July 2017, 16:31:30
Quote from: piercejenkins on Wed, 19 July 2017, 17:01:48
Sign me up for this.  Will this be done by maxkey or sp?

Maxkey does not have the molds for many of the keys in the current configuration, so it would have to be SP I think.

Ahh, fair enough. The only reason I'd prefer maxkey is the price. I'm definitely in for a SP set of blanks.
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Offline cynviloq

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Re: [IC] Black SA blanks
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 20 July 2017, 19:36:57 »
Hi all - I spoke with ullr and we're consolidating the thread to a new IC here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90680.0

I have received some quotes and timing from SP already so we're trying to get this going and hopefully start a GB in August if there is interest.
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