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Offline saesh

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 01:19:03 »
Kudos to you for making this! I am definitely in!

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 02:02:00 »
I've been refreshing the page constantly the past few days. I'm excited for this. Only question is what kind of switches do I put in it? ha ;D

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 02:09:40 »
Only question is what kind of switches do I put in it? ha ;D

Gateron Yellows.  ^-^

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 07:50:45 »
Can you make the PCB ISO compatible?

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 09:09:03 »
Form filled. Definitely down for a kit plus an extra PCB. Thank you for setting this up.

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC
« Reply #55 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 22:08:15 »
Hypothetically could I use the Arisu top layer with your PCB and case?

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 22:47:44 »
Hypothetically could I use the Arisu top layer with your PCB and case?

 I didn't change the board or case outer dimensions, but the bottom row has been slightly modified, you'd need to make small changes to the cutouts on the far left side where I swapped the 1.5 for  2x 1.25s, other than that, it's just leaving the rest of the locations unpopulated.

EDIT, I'll throw in the footprint option for the original 1.5 on that side so if you want to go full original Arisu layout, you may do so.
« Last Edit: Tue, 20 August 2019, 22:52:23 by worldspawn »
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 22:54:31 »
Can you make the PCB ISO compatible?

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No, as the right edge of the ANSI enter and pipe key are not aligned, it is not possible to add ISO support.
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 23:02:04 »
Board name is now GOTHIC70

Silk art has been added, looks like fab can do matte black soldermask and red silk.



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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 23:05:51 »
So i’ll be able to do either 1.5 or 2x1.25 ? And then I can just modify the plate and top layer basically


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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 23:06:26 »
That PCB mask looks amazing btw


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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 23:07:42 »
So i’ll be able to do either 1.5 or 2x1.25 ? And then I can just modify the plate and top layer basically


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Correct, left justified 1.5, or a pair of 1.25s that fill the blocker area.
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 20 August 2019, 23:26:33 »
Can you make the PCB ISO compatible?

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No, as the right edge of the ANSI enter and pipe key are not aligned, it is not possible to add ISO support.
Ah, I see what you mean, that's too bad. Still joining because I always wanted this layout.

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 00:07:38 »
Any idea on when you would be able to run this?

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 00:32:05 »
Amazing kit! Nice job done!

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #65 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 10:15:06 »
Any idea on when you would be able to run this?

I believe my plan is to go live with the GB next week, and it will be open for 2 weeks or until it hits 100 boards, if there's a lot more interest, I'll probably run a round 2 as well a few months later.  Target is to have the R1 boards done and shipped in october/november.
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 10:34:08 »
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Any idea on when you would be able to run this?

I believe my plan is to go live with the GB next week, and it will be open for 2 weeks or until it hits 100 boards, if there's a lot more interest, I'll probably run a round 2 as well a few months later.  Target is to have the R1 boards done and shipped in october/november.

Count me in. Everything is looking great! Thank you for putting time and effort into this :thumb:

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 12:42:13 »
Super hyped now for the GB. What vendors do you have planned?

Offline saesh

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 14:08:32 »
Can someone please enlighten me what POM is and why I would want it over an acrylic case? Sorry, total noob as far as materials go.

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #69 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 14:55:37 »
>Can someone please enlighten me what POM is and why I would want it over an acrylic case?

POM is denser and softer than other polymer materials such as acrylic or polycarbonate, it tends to give both a softer typing experience and dampens noise better.

>What vendors do you have planned?

I sell through my own storefront on Etsy (yeah I know, but it's an easy to use platform that has good payment processing options)
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #70 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 01:49:33 »
>Can someone please enlighten me what POM is and why I would want it over an acrylic case?

POM is denser and softer than other polymer materials such as acrylic or polycarbonate, it tends to give both a softer typing experience and dampens noise better.

Thanks!

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #71 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 02:19:26 »
Woah, price is lower than I had expected. Design is great as well.  :thumb:

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #72 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 03:01:09 »
What sizes are the bottom row keys?

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #73 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 07:26:45 »
What sizes are the bottom row keys?

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2x 1.25, 1.5, 2.0, 1.0 - 2.75, 1.5, 1.25 then 1u arrow keys
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #74 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 12:15:49 »
Can't pass on this with that price  :eek:

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #75 on: Mon, 26 August 2019, 21:32:29 »
GB is live as soon as the thread is approved by the mods here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102180.0
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 26 August 2019, 22:56:01 »
Amazing kit, and the mask looks so good. It's also quite affordable, so yeah, this is definitely a must-have

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 08:15:54 »
GB is live as soon as the thread is approved by the mods here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102180.0

Mods must be sleeping still haha

Ready to throw my money at it  :thumb:

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #78 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 09:55:42 »
Since the GB thread is not up I have a couple of questions for here. How many layers is the case made of and what thickness? I assume the plate layer is 1.5mm. I am thinking about going POM, are there any pics of what the black pom looks like?

Edit: Ok so I see on etsy its listed as 3mm plate. Is there a way to prevent the plate from sliding down the switches since they don't clip in?
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« Reply #79 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 10:19:33 »
Since the GB thread is not up I have a couple of questions for here. How many layers is the case made of and what thickness? I assume the plate layer is 1.5mm. I am thinking about going POM, are there any pics of what the black pom looks like?

Edit: Ok so I see on etsy its listed as 3mm plate. Is there a way to prevent the plate from sliding down the switches since they don't clip in?

Correct, layers are all 3mm, best way to keep the switches seated is to add the plate foam, it takes up the remaining 2mm of space and prevents the switches from sliding up.

Black POM looks almost exactly like black acrylic except it's going to be slightly less glossy and probably have small scratches on it, POM does not come with protective paper on it, so it frequently has small scratches from the factory.
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #80 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 10:24:05 »
Since the GB thread is not up I have a couple of questions for here. How many layers is the case made of and what thickness? I assume the plate layer is 1.5mm. I am thinking about going POM, are there any pics of what the black pom looks like?

Edit: Ok so I see on etsy its listed as 3mm plate. Is there a way to prevent the plate from sliding down the switches since they don't clip in?

Correct, layers are all 3mm, best way to keep the switches seated is to add the plate foam, it takes up the remaining 2mm of space and prevents the switches from sliding up.

Black POM looks almost exactly like black acrylic except it's going to be slightly less glossy and probably have small scratches on it, POM does not come with protective paper on it, so it frequently has small scratches from the factory.

Ok good to know on the foam I will be sure to add that as well. I will be doing pom plate, but I am in between doing pom or acrylic for the rest of the case.

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #81 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 11:02:27 »
If I select top frosted black and the bottom frosted clear (for RBG diffusion, although RGB is meh, but if it's there...) how many layers is each?
As for the plate, with a black top, I'm assuming best go with black plate?

Also, I'm from Canada, what's you experience with customs? Do you label it as "DIY kit" I don't know if that would change anything..

Thanks!

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #82 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 11:23:36 »
If I select top frosted black and the bottom frosted clear (for RBG diffusion, although RGB is meh, but if it's there...) how many layers is each?
As for the plate, with a black top, I'm assuming best go with black plate?

Also, I'm from Canada, what's you experience with customs? Do you label it as "DIY kit" I don't know if that would change anything..

Thanks!

 The frosted layers will replace the one top or bottom layer of the case, the total case layers with plate is 6, there will still be just 6 layers in the package with the options.  Yes, best to select the matching color plate, unless you want a visible stripe in the case edge, which some people may want.

I label international packages as a 'keyboard kit' and list wholesale value, customs is not usually an issue.
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #83 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 11:39:57 »
Certainly interested. Always wanted an Alice, but didn't have the cash to spend on it when it first IC'd
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #84 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 12:45:21 »
Since the GB thread is not up I have a couple of questions for here. How many layers is the case made of and what thickness? I assume the plate layer is 1.5mm. I am thinking about going POM, are there any pics of what the black pom looks like?

Edit: Ok so I see on etsy its listed as 3mm plate. Is there a way to prevent the plate from sliding down the switches since they don't clip in?

Correct, layers are all 3mm, best way to keep the switches seated is to add the plate foam, it takes up the remaining 2mm of space and prevents the switches from sliding up.

Black POM looks almost exactly like black acrylic except it's going to be slightly less glossy and probably have small scratches on it, POM does not come with protective paper on it, so it frequently has small scratches from the factory.

Does the plate support switchtop opening at 3mm/foam?

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #85 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 12:47:07 »
Since the GB thread is not up I have a couple of questions for here. How many layers is the case made of and what thickness? I assume the plate layer is 1.5mm. I am thinking about going POM, are there any pics of what the black pom looks like?

Edit: Ok so I see on etsy its listed as 3mm plate. Is there a way to prevent the plate from sliding down the switches since they don't clip in?

Correct, layers are all 3mm, best way to keep the switches seated is to add the plate foam, it takes up the remaining 2mm of space and prevents the switches from sliding up.

Black POM looks almost exactly like black acrylic except it's going to be slightly less glossy and probably have small scratches on it, POM does not come with protective paper on it, so it frequently has small scratches from the factory.

Does the plate support switchtop opening at 3mm/foam?

Yes, I have the switchtop opening cutouts on the acrylic, and the foam does not interfere.
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #86 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 12:50:01 »
Since the GB thread is not up I have a couple of questions for here. How many layers is the case made of and what thickness? I assume the plate layer is 1.5mm. I am thinking about going POM, are there any pics of what the black pom looks like?

Edit: Ok so I see on etsy its listed as 3mm plate. Is there a way to prevent the plate from sliding down the switches since they don't clip in?

Correct, layers are all 3mm, best way to keep the switches seated is to add the plate foam, it takes up the remaining 2mm of space and prevents the switches from sliding up.

Black POM looks almost exactly like black acrylic except it's going to be slightly less glossy and probably have small scratches on it, POM does not come with protective paper on it, so it frequently has small scratches from the factory.

Does the plate support switchtop opening at 3mm/foam?

Yes, I have the switchtop opening cutouts on the acrylic, and the foam does not interfere.
Pom as well I assume?

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #87 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 12:52:28 »
Since the GB thread is not up I have a couple of questions for here. How many layers is the case made of and what thickness? I assume the plate layer is 1.5mm. I am thinking about going POM, are there any pics of what the black pom looks like?

Edit: Ok so I see on etsy its listed as 3mm plate. Is there a way to prevent the plate from sliding down the switches since they don't clip in?

Correct, layers are all 3mm, best way to keep the switches seated is to add the plate foam, it takes up the remaining 2mm of space and prevents the switches from sliding up.

Black POM looks almost exactly like black acrylic except it's going to be slightly less glossy and probably have small scratches on it, POM does not come with protective paper on it, so it frequently has small scratches from the factory.

Does the plate support switchtop opening at 3mm/foam?

Yes, I have the switchtop opening cutouts on the acrylic, and the foam does not interfere.
Pom as well I assume?

Correct, POM and acrylic use the same design.
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #88 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 13:15:14 »
Thanks for all the replies! Last one ( I think!) I just had a look at the PCB again. Are the LEDs are SMD? I know it says
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PCB will come with SMD assembly done, just solder in switches and add stabilizers and keycaps.
however I just wanted to clarify.

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #89 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 13:23:07 »
Thanks for all the replies! Last one ( I think!) I just had a look at the PCB again. Are the LEDs are SMD? I know it says
Quote
PCB will come with SMD assembly done, just solder in switches and add stabilizers and keycaps.
however I just wanted to clarify.

The indicator LEDs will come soldered (white LEDs), the underglow is via an RGB strip header and is not included.
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #90 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 13:31:35 »
Thanks for all the replies! Last one ( I think!) I just had a look at the PCB again. Are the LEDs are SMD? I know it says
Quote
PCB will come with SMD assembly done, just solder in switches and add stabilizers and keycaps.
however I just wanted to clarify.

The indicator LEDs will come soldered (white LEDs), the underglow is via an RGB strip header and is not included.
Thanks! I apologize for my lack of clarity! I meant the indicators. Thanks so much!

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #91 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 13:52:27 »
Do you have any sample images of the black frost acrylic?

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #92 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 14:00:47 »
Do you have any sample images of the black frost acrylic?

The photo in the OP is of the frosted black

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #93 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 14:14:00 »
Are there any photos of the black pom case?

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #94 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 14:26:17 »
Black POM does not look significantly different from black acrylic. The outside cut edges will look the same, the surface will not be glossy and may have surface scratches as POM is not covered with protective paper like Acrylic is and usually shows some minor defects from the factory, the surface will look similar to this:
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #95 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 19:00:16 »
I have already bought but am curious as to why the GB post hadn't been approved yet?


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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #96 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 21:24:44 »
I have already bought but am curious as to why the GB post hadn't been approved yet?


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My guess is the mods missed it. I ended up just buying it as well instead of waiting

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« Reply #97 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 21:26:36 »
I have already bought but am curious as to why the GB post hadn't been approved yet?


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My guess is the mods missed it. I ended up just buying it as well instead of waiting

it would appear the mods haven't been online in the last 36 hours...
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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #98 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 21:38:16 »
I have already bought but am curious as to why the GB post hadn't been approved yet?


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My guess is the mods missed it. I ended up just buying it as well instead of waiting

How did you already buy it? Link?

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Re: Alice style keyboard with Arrows - IC (GOTHIC70)
« Reply #99 on: Tue, 27 August 2019, 21:53:42 »
I have already bought but am curious as to why the GB post hadn't been approved yet?


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My guess is the mods missed it. I ended up just buying it as well instead of waiting

How did you already buy it? Link?
He mentioned he was using Etsy to sell. I googled Etsy gothic70. When I bought it Esty wouldn't shut up about how 20 other people had this in their cart lol and that I had to hurry. I hate pressure tactics!

https://www.etsy.com/shop/WorldspawnsKeebs?listing_id=689561858

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