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Ergonomics / Re: First ergonomic keyboard
« Last post by Rhienfo on Thu, 25 April 2024, 19:33:21 »
I'm not too well versed when it comes to the options of ergo keyboards, but from my experience with alice layout (which is far more similar to a regular layout so keep that in mind) it was like 5 minutes of it not being great and then was fine.

You shouldn't worry about not being able to switch layouts, you hands get used to it pretty quickly as long as you keeping typing on the boards.

Also if you are worried about making noise, you could always put silent switches, like the haimu silents which are pretty good.

Good luck with your search.
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC] Altair and Altair-X - Split ergonomic keyboard | GB Date Announced
« Last post by ai03 on Thu, 25 April 2024, 19:15:14 »
Altair Final Announcements

With the Altair group buy starting less than a week away on the 29th, the final details have finally been confirmed.


Vendors

The vendors for the group buy are as follows:


GB Span

The group buy will run from April 29 to June 3.


Wristrests

This was the source of the announcement delay - the first proto unexpectedly tipped over due to its design and the pressure from the wrists, so they've been fully revised to resolve that problem.
The wristrests will be machined from walnut - note that due to it being a natural material, there may be imperfections and unpredictabilities.



Other Misc Tidbits

The weight will only be offered in brass this time around - steel ended up being too expensive to machine with this design without the price skyrocketing.
The default plate will be polycarbonate, which fits in well with the goals of the board to be as ergonomic and comfortable as possible.
A basic USB-C cable will be included for the split interconnect; any USB 2.0 or higher C-to-C cable should work fine as well.


The Full Pricing List

Altair (5-row)
- Case - 315 USD for dark grey and rose gold, 325USD for e-white
- Learning keyset - 30 USD
- Extra plates - 40 USD for a pair of PC, 55USD for a pair of alu, 25USD for a pair of FR4
- Extra hotswap PCB pair - 55 USD
- Foam layers kit (midfoams, bottomfoams) - 28 USD

Altair-X (4-row)
- Case - 300 USD for dark grey and rose gold, 310USD for e-white
- Learning keyset - 27 USD
- Extra plates - 37 USD for a pair of PC, 52USD for a pair of alu, 21USD for a pair of FR4
- Extra hotswap PCB pair - 51 USD
- Foam layers kit (midfoams, bottomfoams) - 26 USD

Common Accessories
- Extra gaskets kits - 7 USD
- Extra USB-C interconnect cable - 5 USD
- Extra USB daughterboards - 11 USD
- Wooden wristrests pair - 28 USD
- Extra rubber feet (a whopping 24 per kit to account for 6 per each wristrest) - 5 USD


This will likely be the final announcement regarding the project until the day the group buy goes live.
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Keyboards / Re: 15x6 Ortholinear Access-IS 90 key Keyboard
« Last post by mitch7022 on Thu, 25 April 2024, 19:11:41 »
Hi

I was wondering how you went with this project?

I am after the same keyboard.
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Classifieds / Re: [WTB] Artisans, HHKBs, 356 mini
« Last post by ankit on Thu, 25 April 2024, 17:54:02 »
 :confused:
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Ergonomics / First ergonomic keyboard
« Last post by savery on Thu, 25 April 2024, 16:28:06 »
Hi,
I'm looking for advice about my first ergonomic keyboard. I have been a full time software developer for over a year now. I have been looking for a new keyboard in general, but I'm interested in getting a ergonomic keyboard.
First thing: I'm little bit afraid to get a mechanical keyboard, because I would like to use it in office and I don't want it to be too loud. I have not ever use any mechanical keyboard before, so I really don't know how is the experience.
Second thing: I'm thinking to get one of these split keyboards. I understand, that there is a learning curve, but I'm afraid I won't be able to get used to it at all.
Now let's say, I would decide to get one. Which one would you recommend for budget around 100? (Euros) I was looking in my local stores and I could find these:
- Kinesis Freestyle2 - non-mechanical, in case I could get use to the split, I could just 'unsplit' it
- ErgoDelta Split - non-mechanical (I think), same as Kinesis, I could 'unsplit' it; it seems to come with vertical alignment options out of the box (I think you have to buy extra for Kinesis)
- Penclic Professional MK1 - this one is also listed as 'ergonomic', but this one is mechanical and it's not split

If possible, I would like to avoid numpad. Are there any reasonable options for my budget? Also, could you maybe describe the experience with split keyboards?

Thank
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC] W70 (65%+) | Intro Video updated Apr 19 2024
« Last post by keybay.tech on Thu, 25 April 2024, 15:23:34 »
More cool photos uploaded
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC] W70 (65%+) | Intro Video updated Apr 19 2024
« Last post by keybay.tech on Thu, 25 April 2024, 15:06:52 »
Quote from: foldbaa on Thu, 25 April 2024, 03:53:49
I'm curious to know if WPJ plans to open pre-orders soon. I really want to be one of the first people to own this W70 keyboard with car taillight.

Yep, its coming.
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC] Petrichor by AKB
« Last post by pixelpusher on Thu, 25 April 2024, 14:49:36 »
Fool's Gold is so lovely.   :-*
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Group Buys and Preorders / [Instock] Kailh BCP Switch/With MX Cream Stem
« Last post by DashanYYY on Thu, 25 April 2024, 14:12:52 »
307604-0

Discord:https://discord.gg/xprJb8Ta26


The Kailh BCP switches designed by Off Studio are not the first and won't be people's last attempt to re-create the classic black cherry pie switches. What's different this time, or should I say what's been improved this time is that one of the switch parts is actually the same as the original Franken BCP switch; That is the MX Cream stem. Since Kailh is the manufacturer of the MX Cream switches, Off Studio took advantage and used those directly for the Kailh BCP. Along with some R&D done to the housing materials and molds, the Kailh BCP switches are made similar to the original ones to a great extent. Let's take a look at what they are like. 



Price

Price: 0.5 USD per switch

Switch Specifications

Switch type: Linear
Designer: Off Studio
Manufacturer: Kailh
Stem material: Dupont POM (MX Cream Stem)
Top Housings: PA66 (With the same Cherry housing texture)
Bottom Housing: PA66 (thickened)
Operating Force: 52±5g
Bottom-out Force:  63.5±5g
Pre-travel: 1.4mm±0.2mm
Total Travel: 3.5±0.2mm
Spring: 20mm Single-Stage extended spring
Factory Lubed: Yes!


307608-2
307610-3
307612-4
307614-5

The Kailh BCP Switch




Design:
The largest difficulty in re-creating the BCP switches is molding designs. That is because the original BCP switches are frankened using three switch parts from three manufacturers. If you think about it, it is a switch miracle; Three switch parts designed and developed by three manufacturers which come with completely different specs and tolerances magically work together and become one of the most famous franken switches in this hobby; That is the original BCP switch we are familiar with. To re-create the BCP switches with 100% similarity requires that you have the exact same molding and materials used for the original ones, and that is almost impossible. Mold design and material formula are both secrets to each manufacturer, so unless someone could gather Kailh, JWK, and Cherry to work together, we will never see the TRUE out-of-factory-and-ready-to-use BCP switches. That is to say, don't expect the Kailh BCPs to be exactly the same as the original BCP switches.

Since the Kailh BCP switches already use the MX Cream stem, the urgent is to get the housings done as similar as possible to the original ones. In order to achieve that, Off Studio worked in collaboration with Kailh's engineering team and developed a new set of molds for the BCP housings. Here's what they did:

1. The top housing comes with the same molding texture and mold runners as the Cherry top housing. That ensures the signature stem tolerance and scratchy feeling are kept.
2. The bottom housing is thickened to get the 3.5mm total travel distance. A thickened bottom housing also means a fuller and more vibrant bottom-out sound in general.
3. FYI: The MX Cream stems are 13.42mm in length, and there is no way the stem length is going to be changed; The only way to adjust travel distance is to adjust the thickness of the bottom housing. Hence the bottom housing is thickened to meet the needs here.

Materials:
Housing materials are another obstacle waiting to be overcome; The original Cherry top housing was made using PA66 from Covestro AG (Former name: Bayer MaterialScience Co.), and the JWK H1 bottom housing was made using JWK's PA66. Although Kailh doesn't use the same supplier as Cherry or JWK, the good news is it's just PA66 which is very common in this hobby. The synthesizing formula might be a bit different among suppliers, but PA66 is PA66 XD.

Off Studio and Kailh made sure the PA66 they use to manufacture Kailh BCP switches are indistinguishable, and they also stressed the fact that the PA66 housing does not come with fiberglass added.

Major Differences Between the Orignal BCP and Kailh BCP

1. Kailh BCP sounds a bit louder than the original ones
2. Kailh BCP is smoother while noticeable scratch is maintained
3. Kailh BCP has a thickened bottom housing
4. Kailh BCP has a longer travel distance
5. Not original Cherry top and H1 bottom


Form of Sales

Time of Sales
They are instock and available now

Vendor List
NA: Unikeys https://unikeyboards.com/



Reviews and Videos
Coming soon...

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Group Buys and Preorders / [GB] Awekeys Metal Keycaps Set | The Copper Eagle
« Last post by ClickClack.io on Thu, 25 April 2024, 14:11:21 »




The Copper Eagle
by Awekeys
Post edited by ClickClackIO

Please see the IC post for more details: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=122116.0.

Index
 
- Intro
- Design
- Kitting
- Renders
- GB Details
- Pricing and Vendors

Intro



Influenced by the awe-inspiring copper eagle statue—a symbol renowned for its embodiment of
strength, freedom, and vision. I admire the glossy surface of copper and would love to
create a set of keycaps with a copper texture for the Copper Eagle.




Design

Awekeys is a brand specializing in producing metal keycaps. They have collaborated with Drop, KeebsForAll, ClickClack, and many trusted regional vendors and have received positive feedback on their products.

Taking the initiative, I contacted Awekeys to inquire if they'd be interested in helping me create metal keycaps for the Copper Eagle. Their response was positive, expressing a genuine appreciation for the Copper Eagle concept. Thus, our collaboration was born, fueled by their expertise and shared enthusiasm for bringing the Copper Eagle to life through our joint efforts.

Profile: Cherry
Material: Recycled Metal
Manufacturer: Awekeys

Kittings

Base Kit



Novelties



Alice ADD-ON PACK



7U ADD-ON PACK







Renders



















GB Details

GB Start time: 30th April 2024
GB End time: 13th May 2024
Estimated Shipping date: June 2024

More Information: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/awekeys-full-metal-keycaps-set-copper-eagle#/

Pricing and Vendors

Pricing:

Base Kit - $199
All in one Pack - $356
Novelties - $69
7U Add-On Pack - $69
Alice Add-On Pack - $49

Vendors:
US: Clickclack
US: KeebsForAll
Canada: Desk Hero
UK: Prototypist
Singapore: iLumkb
South Korea: KLC Playgrounds
Australia: KeebznCables
Germany: Keygem
China: KBDfans
Worldwide: Awekeys


Socials


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