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Title: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Tue, 13 February 2018, 23:55:51
5x7 (35 Slots) - Premium Artisan Storage Case

1" Machined Acrylic w/ Bead Blasted Finish
1/4" Acrylic Laser Cut Lid
Nylatron Thumb Screws x 2
1/2" Charcoal Travel Foam
Custom packaging

Cell Dimensions (LxWxH): 0.83" x .0.83" x 0.81"
Cell Wall Height: 0.25"

Made in the USA

$97 + Shipping

Interest Check Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeOZYLMxwishdDBP0Bros9oXuPtdqETkAcqKWI8X01ziJUTtA/viewform?usp=sf_link)

Design Development Album (https://imgur.com/a/JqdK0)

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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: iArson on Tue, 13 February 2018, 23:56:31
:thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: aspenc4 on Wed, 14 February 2018, 00:00:33
You have my attention


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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 14 February 2018, 04:56:17
Interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 14 February 2018, 06:40:52
Can't wait for this, knowing how hard you've worked on the design. :thumb:

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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: pshofosho on Wed, 14 February 2018, 08:09:38
Lot of progress man, excited to see the prototype, keep up the good work!
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Wed, 14 February 2018, 11:40:00
Please take a minute to fill this out :)

Interest Check Form (https://goo.gl/forms/nfRJdpH7PGmZ5kU92)
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 14 February 2018, 12:30:09
Filled out
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Wed, 14 February 2018, 14:48:47
Dimension Drawing added:

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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Wed, 14 February 2018, 23:49:14
This looks like a really cool project will definitely be following updates, but it looks like a bit of a pain to open up the case. I may be wrong about that altogether though, but I don't know if I would pay for a case that I deemed to be a chore to open.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Thu, 15 February 2018, 10:32:23
This looks like a really cool project will definitely be following updates, but it looks like a bit of a pain to open up the case. I may be wrong about that altogether though, but I don't know if I would pay for a case that I deemed to be a chore to open.

Thanks for your feedback! I have left 3/32" edge height tolerance for lifting the lid out, along with a bit of wiggle room in the nesting which I'm hoping will be enough to make the lid easy to remove. Regarding the thumb screws, they are really only needed for traveling, and do not need to be used at all in order for the case and lid to be functional for home storage.

New Render:

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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: DillonHightower on Fri, 16 February 2018, 06:36:04
I feel like for the price the case should be larger. Other cases lately have offered led lighting / metal housing with PCB for roughly same price.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: pshofosho on Fri, 16 February 2018, 09:59:00
I feel like for the price the case should be larger. Other cases lately have offered led lighting / metal housing with PCB for roughly same price.

What cases are you referencing that includes those?
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 16 February 2018, 10:18:12
I feel like for the price the case should be larger. Other cases lately have offered led lighting / metal housing with PCB for roughly same price.

What cases are you referencing that includes those?

There is a aluminium case group buy right now run by bas1c.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: pshofosho on Fri, 16 February 2018, 10:21:05
Yea, i'm aware of that one, clear versus aluminum is subjective? I guess i'm more asking what case out there includes at least 2 out of the three mentioned features (led lighting, metal housing, PCB)?
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Fri, 16 February 2018, 10:28:05
I feel like for the price the case should be larger. Other cases lately have offered led lighting / metal housing with PCB for roughly same price.

I don't disagree on the pricing or the size. Once we can accomplish this initial batch of 25, I would like to switch focus to a 7x15 (105 slot) case.

Regarding aluminum and PCB, going with a high-quality urethane casting was a deliberate choice that I feel will be a more natural fit for displaying resin cast artisans.

Basic also has a good option for a case, albeit it's $120 for 20 slots, and it's sizing will most likely not accommodate larger Artisans such as Keywoks, Bruces, or Kosmos.

I'm personally not interested in incorporating any sort of PCB or lighting. At that point might as well put your artisans on a keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: DillonHightower on Fri, 16 February 2018, 11:24:34
I’m interested.  I completely agree with the necessity of not needing  all the extra stuff , but it was just a price comparison moRe or less. the Bigger option would just suit  me more. Maybe a poll for a vote?
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: pshofosho on Fri, 16 February 2018, 12:12:07
but for real lol, I've never seen an artisan case with LEDs / pcb? Link?
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: DillonHightower on Sat, 17 February 2018, 05:14:04
but for real lol, I've never seen an artisan case with LEDs / pcb? Link?

pmed
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Fri, 23 February 2018, 13:55:31
Quick update - I've received the CNC milled prototype and couldn't be happier with the outcome. The bead blasting gives it a lovely frosted aesthetic and the machine shop did a great job with the details.

I will be revisiting the lid to explore other options besides water-jet cut polycarb, as the edging is quite rough and frayed. Next step will be to order a laser cut acrylic lid with a polished edge.

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Bottom panel indent detail (for stacking)
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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 23 February 2018, 14:28:38
Quick update - I've received the CNC milled prototype and couldn't be happier with the outcome. The bead blasting gives it a lovely frosted aesthetic and the machine shop did a great job with the details.

Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=94070.0;attach=189520;image)



Yo dawg, I heard you like artisans!

That casted urethane looks really good. Interested, especially with the possibilities when produced at scale  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Fri, 23 February 2018, 14:36:02
Quick update - I've received the CNC milled prototype and couldn't be happier with the outcome. The bead blasting gives it a lovely frosted aesthetic and the machine shop did a great job with the details.

Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=94070.0;attach=189520;image)



Yo dawg, I heard you like artisans!

That casted urethane looks really good. Interested, especially with the possibilities when produced at scale  :cool:


Thanks man! The prototype is actually clear acrylic CNC milled and bead blasted w/ fine glass beads.

The urethane casted version should look almost identical, however, I'm still searching to see if I can find cheaper quotes for scale CNC milling as an option.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 23 February 2018, 15:13:01
Quick update - I've received the CNC milled prototype and couldn't be happier with the outcome. The bead blasting gives it a lovely frosted aesthetic and the machine shop did a great job with the details.

Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=94070.0;attach=189520;image)



Yo dawg, I heard you like artisans!

That casted urethane looks really good. Interested, especially with the possibilities when produced at scale  :cool:


Thanks man! The prototype is actually clear acrylic CNC milled and bead blasted w/ fine glass beads.

The urethane casted version should look almost identical, however, I'm still searching to see if I can find cheaper quotes for scale CNC milling as an option.

Oh, oops! Good to hear that it would look almost identical though. You'd be looking for something local too, right? I may have a contact but is in PA.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Fri, 23 February 2018, 15:19:17
Quick update - I've received the CNC milled prototype and couldn't be happier with the outcome. The bead blasting gives it a lovely frosted aesthetic and the machine shop did a great job with the details.

Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=94070.0;attach=189520;image)



Yo dawg, I heard you like artisans!

That casted urethane looks really good. Interested, especially with the possibilities when produced at scale  :cool:


Thanks man! The prototype is actually clear acrylic CNC milled and bead blasted w/ fine glass beads.

The urethane casted version should look almost identical, however, I'm still searching to see if I can find cheaper quotes for scale CNC milling as an option.

Oh, oops! Good to hear that it would look almost identical though. You'd be looking for something local too, right? I may have a contact but is in PA.

Oh cool!

I'd really love to stay local, or at least MiUSA in order to expedite lead times considerably, and I'm having fun working with the shop and getting involved in the process.

Please can you PM me the details of your contact in PA?
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Fri, 23 February 2018, 15:47:26
Quick update - I've received the CNC milled prototype and couldn't be happier with the outcome. The bead blasting gives it a lovely frosted aesthetic and the machine shop did a great job with the details.

Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=94070.0;attach=189520;image)



Yo dawg, I heard you like artisans!

That casted urethane looks really good. Interested, especially with the possibilities when produced at scale  :cool:


Thanks man! The prototype is actually clear acrylic CNC milled and bead blasted w/ fine glass beads.

The urethane casted version should look almost identical, however, I'm still searching to see if I can find cheaper quotes for scale CNC milling as an option.

Oh, oops! Good to hear that it would look almost identical though. You'd be looking for something local too, right? I may have a contact but is in PA.

Oh cool!

I'd really love to stay local, or at least MiUSA in order to expedite lead times considerably, and I'm having fun working with the shop and getting involved in the process.

Please can you PM me the details of your contact in PA?
I'm sorry, he had been milling acrylic for a while but I think on a much smaller scale than what you may be looking for. He said he doesn't have any full-scale experience.

>"I'm having fun working with the shop and getting involved in the process."

I bet this would be a lot of fun, sounds like a good shop. Best of luck in getting some lower quotes. Oh, and magnets rather than thumb screws intrigues me!
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Fri, 23 February 2018, 17:21:51
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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: pshofosho on Fri, 23 February 2018, 17:23:46
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Confirmed. Comes with a Mummy, thanks Hayt!


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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Fri, 23 February 2018, 17:56:20
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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Tue, 27 February 2018, 14:18:22
Moving on from the prototype and have been able to capture additional learning:


1) Two screws instead of four, this reduces milling complexity and frankly ease of operation
2) Looking at brass screws for fun, most likely will go back to steel or black plastic
3) Reduced cell wall height from 3/8" to 1/4" which will make life much easier for removing keycaps
4) Updated lid thickness from 3/16" to 1/4" for easier removal from case and that thick aesthetic

To do list:

1) Find cheaper CNC milling quote for price breaks of 25, 50, 75, 100
2) Nail down hardware choice
3) Find foam insert supplier and quote

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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: Geek Maker on Tue, 27 February 2018, 23:02:32
I like these
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: DillonHightower on Wed, 28 February 2018, 01:38:38
Looks good man. Look forward to see where this goes.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Thu, 01 March 2018, 08:46:51
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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 01 March 2018, 11:33:31
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Neat. What's the change on this one?

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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Thu, 01 March 2018, 11:40:47
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Neat. What's the change on this one?

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Thanks! Sorting out final details. Inner cell radius have been changed from 1/16" to 1/8" to reduce CNC time, also specced out a fully nylon screw which is nicer than the steel screws with nylon heads, made the bezel a bit thicker too
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 01 March 2018, 11:44:53
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Neat. What's the change on this one?

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Thanks! Sorting out final details. Inner cell radius have been changed from 1/16" to 1/8" to reduce CNC time, also specced out a fully nylon screw which is nicer than the steel screws with nylon heads, made the bezel a bit thicker too
Smart changes.

Just a question because I'm not so sure about how it works... Would the material of the screw affect how the screw's threading would take a toll on the longevity of the case? In other words... Let's say you use a steel screw, would the harder material (steel) be more likely to strip threading on the case over time? So it would be better to match the materials and use a nylon one instead?

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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 01 March 2018, 11:49:08
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Neat. What's the change on this one?

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Thanks! Sorting out final details. Inner cell radius have been changed from 1/16" to 1/8" to reduce CNC time, also specced out a fully nylon screw which is nicer than the steel screws with nylon heads, made the bezel a bit thicker too
Smart changes.

Just a question because I'm not so sure about how it works... Would the material of the screw affect how the screw's threading would take a toll on the longevity of the case? In other words... Let's say you use a steel screw, would the harder material (steel) be more likely to strip threading on the case over time? So it would be better to match the materials and use a nylon one instead?

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Yeah steel would cause issues. Nylon would be more ideal
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Thu, 01 March 2018, 11:50:08
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Neat. What's the change on this one?

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Thanks! Sorting out final details. Inner cell radius have been changed from 1/16" to 1/8" to reduce CNC time, also specced out a fully nylon screw which is nicer than the steel screws with nylon heads, made the bezel a bit thicker too
Smart changes.

Just a question because I'm not so sure about how it works... Would the material of the screw affect how the screw's threading would take a toll on the longevity of the case? In other words... Let's say you use a steel screw, would the harder material (steel) be more likely to strip threading on the case over time? So it would be better to match the materials and use a nylon one instead?

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I don't know enough about different thread types to answer 100% but yes, my intention is to go with a nylon threaded screw to better match the case material. I also dig the aesthetic of it.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Thu, 01 March 2018, 11:51:18
Currently specced screw:

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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Thu, 01 March 2018, 14:05:42
Currently specced screw:

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Just wanna print out a bunch of these kinda pictures and frame them.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Thu, 01 March 2018, 15:25:48
I dig the screw change. Really smart for lengthening the life of the threads.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Fri, 09 March 2018, 13:36:44
Quick update, prototype #2 currently in production. Hoping to start the GB process in 3-4 weeks depending on how the new prototype turns out.

Sending prototype #1 out for community feedback:

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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Tue, 13 March 2018, 09:57:59
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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 13 March 2018, 10:53:37
Looking good
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: nastrovje on Tue, 13 March 2018, 11:06:41
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This is so hot

e/ Dibs on Arson's collection
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 13 March 2018, 12:45:23
I don't collect artisans but the attention to detail in this IC is really awesome and the product looks great. Good luck with eventual sale!
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: scapekeys on Tue, 13 March 2018, 14:25:47
I would get one for sure :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Tue, 13 March 2018, 14:30:36
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This is so hot

e/ Dibs on Arson's collection


dibs on bone daddy :P
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Wed, 28 March 2018, 15:34:41
Quick update. I'll be receiving the updated (2-screw) prototype by 3rd week of April. Once I can identify a local source for bead-blasting, we'll be good to go to open up the group-buy, hopefully by end of April.

Have also managed to spec a soft-charcoal die-cut piece of travel foam that can be used inside the case to keep caps secure during travel :)

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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 28 March 2018, 15:41:42
Looking forward to seeing it and glad to see the foam addition
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Wed, 28 March 2018, 15:41:53
Also want to shout out thanks to rmendis, who conducted sizing tests on a vast array of keycaps. Unfortunately, I can say definitely that the following caps pictured will not fit in the case. Otherwise, the sizing of the case is inclusive for just about every other cap you could think of (give or take a few other outliers):

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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: olivia on Wed, 28 March 2018, 19:21:04
I need it now :D
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: xondat on Wed, 28 March 2018, 19:37:39
Also want to shout out thanks to rmendis, who conducted sizing tests on a vast array of keycaps. Unfortunately, I can say definitely that the following caps pictured will not fit in the case. Otherwise, the sizing of the case is inclusive for just about every other cap you could think of (give or take a few other outliers):

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Did you test Bruce? :p
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 28 March 2018, 19:38:23
Also want to shout out thanks to rmendis, who conducted sizing tests on a vast array of keycaps. Unfortunately, I can say definitely that the following caps pictured will not fit in the case. Otherwise, the sizing of the case is inclusive for just about every other cap you could think of (give or take a few other outliers):

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Did you test Bruce? :p

Pretty sure he said it fits.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: -musubi on Thu, 29 March 2018, 01:08:39
Looks awesome so far man!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Thu, 19 April 2018, 16:49:45
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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 21 April 2018, 11:44:26
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No bottom finish looks good too but I'm definitely interested in bead blasted
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: scud80 on Sat, 21 April 2018, 12:08:50
with the size check, is that including the foam or without it?  curious which caps will fit, but can't be transported if i want to use the foam.  for "normal" height caps, does the foam just kinda sit on top (so they could still rattle a little bit) or does it press down on them to keep them in place?
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: scud80 on Sat, 21 April 2018, 12:09:44
also, the link to the interest check form isn't working any more.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: BestShuckleNA on Sat, 21 April 2018, 13:05:10
Shipping to Canada would probably be like 15-25 bucks right? been looking for a artisan case but I don't think I just wanna grab a taobao one.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Mon, 23 April 2018, 12:07:19
also, the link to the interest check form isn't working any more.

Link updated, thanks!

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No bottom finish looks good too but I'm definitely interested in bead blasted


I agree with you 100% dude. Especially after putting the machine finished next to the v1 prototype which was bead blasted, blasting is the way to go. That's my goal for the week, to see if I can find someone local to help me out with that final step.



with the size check, is that including the foam or without it?  curious which caps will fit, but can't be transported if i want to use the foam.  for "normal" height caps, does the foam just kinda sit on top (so they could still rattle a little bit) or does it press down on them to keep them in place?

Yes, die-cut foam is included. The foam is 1/2" thick light charcoal that can be compressed almost entirely between your fingers. It's a perfect fit inside the case and should work even with artisans that max out nearly the entire .81" of head space.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 23 April 2018, 12:08:41
Looks like I'll be in for 2
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Mon, 23 April 2018, 13:48:17
Is it too early to ask for a price estimate?
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: scud80 on Mon, 23 April 2018, 19:27:11
Is it too early to ask for a price estimate?

it's in the OP.  $93.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: Solotov on Mon, 23 April 2018, 19:38:06
Where's the love for enter key artisans  :'(
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Sat, 28 April 2018, 18:29:18
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/960/41724807312_2ea402c948_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26z5xxw)
case (https://flic.kr/p/26z5xxw) by Dale Snail (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dudesnail/), on Flickr

Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sat, 28 April 2018, 18:51:18
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/960/41724807312_2ea402c948_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26z5xxw)
case (https://flic.kr/p/26z5xxw) by Dale Snail (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dudesnail/), on Flickr



hhhnnnnngggggg
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: xondat on Sat, 28 April 2018, 18:57:54
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/960/41724807312_2ea402c948_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26z5xxw)
case (https://flic.kr/p/26z5xxw) by Dale Snail (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dudesnail/), on Flickr

It's so god damn nice.

Wish I had a use for it.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: romevi on Mon, 30 April 2018, 23:18:34
Reporting my interest.



OG BK will be the only cap in it.
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Fri, 04 May 2018, 10:00:03
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/960/41724807312_2ea402c948_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26z5xxw)
case (https://flic.kr/p/26z5xxw) by Dale Snail (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dudesnail/), on Flickr

ty for crispy dale <3


by way of an update, I am picking up the V2 prototype on monday with a 220 glass bead media finish. If all looks well will open the GB next week, soon tm
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: hayt on Fri, 04 May 2018, 10:02:00
Reporting my interest.



OG BK will be the only cap in it.


I'll allow it
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: romevi on Fri, 04 May 2018, 10:18:26
Reporting my interest.



OG BK will be the only cap in it.


I'll allow it

 :-* :p :-* :p
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: SeedyOne on Tue, 08 May 2018, 18:25:29
Interested for a bead blasted one!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: bjayswift on Tue, 08 May 2018, 22:57:21
Fantastic, I've been waiting for this one.

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Title: Re: [IC] Artisan Case
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 09 May 2018, 05:24:58
Group Buy is live (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95536.msg2605781#msg2605781)