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probly because they are rare
It seems like most of the people on these forums that have tried reds and clears really like them. So why are there so few keyboards that have them?
Clears are less common than browns, blues, blacks. Reds are new.Yeah need this too but I'm not so handy with a soldering iron :(
Frankly I think these guys are on crack.
White stem + brown/blue/red spring I did EONS ago.
I wasn't impressed. See the Nostromo N52 link in my sig.Show Image(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/5001275891_604d78d70a_z.jpg)
And being a fact that Italians do it better. :first:
Normally, I would agree with you. But that was before I saw Panda-R's Chinese bamboo.
CANNOT be unseen!!!
Actually the feeling didn't impress me when I modded one switch either. It wasn't until I modded my entire homerow that I realized I was completely and utterly hooked on that switch.This. I was skeptical at first, but tried two keyboards side-by-side (ergo clear, straight clear) and the ergos won hands down. For me, standard clears are too stiff, especially on the pinkies.
White stem + brown/blue/red spring I did EONS ago.
I wasn't impressed. See the Nostromo N52 link in my sig.Show Image(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/5001275891_604d78d70a_z.jpg)
He didnt seem too impressed by the clear ergo lite, and based on what ripster and a few other peeps, posted awhile back, a clear with a brown spring is kinda just like a minor improvement brown.
Pee pee?
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well AFAIK the only person that has tried both ergo clears is MTL in his thread here. http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:16351The biggest problem I have with browns is the springs are too weak. So clears with brown springs didn't impress me. But if you think browns and reds are just the right weight for you and you want a more tactile response, then the lite ergo clears may be your switch.
He didnt seem too impressed by the clear ergo lite, and based on what ripster and a few other peeps, posted awhile back, a clear with a brown spring is kinda just like a minor improvement brown.
The biggest problem I have with browns is the springs are too weak. So clears with brown springs didn't impress me. But if you think browns and reds are just the right weight for you and you want a more tactile response, then the lite ergo clears may be your switch.
Pee pee?
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Im so confuzzled... if someone could ripometer both id be eternally grateful.
Interesting. The attachment click to enlarge works out of a quote, but not the original post.
I think the click to enlarge bug happens if there are multiple attachments on THE SAME PAGE.
See - unlike these jokers who can't figure out how to count up nickels I'm pretty technical.
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I was told once clear were not "standard" and were harder to get mass production from Cherry.
Whatever it means.
That's why folks on the Deck's forum were questionning the choice of MX Clear when Deck decided to go tactile.
Not to mention your ability to stack them in piles.
He is the n1 on every unuseful activity...
We have all to learn a lot :playball:
Well, I thought the Nickel thing was kind of cool.
Didn't expect you would.
:rain:
Do red (linear) also get mushier over time or it's only the tactile who has that problem?
Well, the Ergo Clears are ALMOST identical to Cherry Clears. Personally I like the Ergo Clear Lite's better.
You guys that invented these should get together and come up with standard names for the two. Maybe the Black spring version becomes "Ghetto Clear" and the lite version becomes "Ergo Clear"???
Like Astronomers and Planets. Who discovers it should get to name it.
Update the Cherry Wiki when you get it figured out.
ps. i value to the rip-o-meter. haters gonna haters. ****'em
Well, the Ergo Clears are ALMOST identical to Cherry Clears.I've tried them both side-by-side and disagree. To me ergo clears are much easier on the fingers. Have you measured bottom out force? I suspect the clear spring has a higher spring constant and offers more resistance than black springs, the more they are compressed.
You guys that invented these should get together and come up with standard names for the two. Maybe the Black spring version becomes "Ghetto Clear" and the lite version becomes "Ergo Clear"???I'm not sure where the ghetto term is coming from. Let's keep ergo clears how they are and call the lite variation "Bumpy Browns." :)
I've tried them both side-by-side and disagree. To me ergo clears are much easier on the fingers.
Have you measured bottom out force? I suspect the clear spring has a higher spring constant and offers more resistance than black springs, the more they are compressed.
I'm not sure where the ghetto term is coming from.
Sorry, but Gravity and the RipOmeter don't lie.Lies! Clearly my fingers are more precise instruments than whatever you have going on there. Also Cherry tolerances are very forgiving.
Lies! Clearly my fingers are more precise instruments than whatever you have going on there. Also Cherry tolerances are very forgiving.
OOooops. Sorry Solutor - I just found your Cherry White Stems with Brown Springs mod (you call it "Beige"). Next time post it in the Modifications Subforum and people would be able to find it.
I don't want to go through that again with noobs asking me about Cherry Beige.
This is a proper poured Cappucino.Show Image(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4154/5395170516_f824e0ac14_z.jpg)
KL doesn't even know how to solder.
I was the first modder. The New Vbulletin 4.0 TimeStamps prove it.
It is officially Ergo Lite.
"Don't like browns? Ergo, clear."
tactoblacksWorks for me.
Hahaha - I'll change that link in the wiki.
KL doesn't even know how to solder.
Frankly I'm gonna stick with Ergo Lite instead of Cappuccino.
This is a proper poured Cappucino.Show Image(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4154/5395170516_f824e0ac14_z.jpg)
Works for me.
Thank you, Ripster. Now I will forever imagine this segway swat team inside my bad ass tactoblack switches. Looks like a couple have bottomed out but that's ok.Show Image(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00684/segway-anti-terror_684090n.jpg)
So ergoclear=white stem and blue/red/brown spring
tactoblack=white stem and black spring?
At least with the RipOmeter we now have hard concrete scientific numbers instead of a bunch of forum geeks talking about key "Feel".
Thank you, Ripster. Now I will forever imagine this segway swat team inside my bad ass tactoblack switches. Looks like a couple have bottomed out but that's ok.