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« on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 13:29:52 »
A wise man told me that once I start typing on a KMAC, I would throw away all my other keyboards...   and you know what, if it wasn't for some sentimental reason, I would've done just that (already traded my Filco Limited Edition reds with a Type-S).  So I got the "winkeyless" version meaning no Windows keys at all and also there were 2 color choices, silver or titanium.  I opted for the later.  It doesn't come fully assembled and since I have neither the time nor the equipment (soldering iron being one of them), I had someone else do them for me...  and yes, the switches have been sticker modded and also lubricated.

You can see some pics of the assembly here (pics might take awhile to load) and also it's the silver one.

After 8 months, the Red Alert set finally came in for sixty so I thought I combine both of them here together.  The RA set is beautiful and has many combinations (for ANSI, ISO, full, tenkeyless, etc).  The packaging was efficient and it arrived reasonably quick (all the way from Berlin).  The set also includes any defective keycaps and their replacement, etc.









With LEDs on, you can see the underglow effect on RA set.



This thing is heavy even though it's has aluminum case.
Tipping off the scale at 3.74 Lbs.



Cherry MX black w/ 55g springs



Switches w/ LEDs



More pics with LEDs lit up..  now I'm not a big fan of keyboards with LEDs but these are beautiful.  They're very subdued and not overly bright as you can see below







Full shot with Ascaii's doubleshot set & Caps Lock key from Reptile





Feet are consisting of 2 parts, the thick washers and the nuts







Rubber strip to prevent it from sliding and Allen bolts



USB cutout and the port





Now, there were some delay due to the fact that the KMAC organizers weren't too happy when the first few batches arrived.  The colors on the 2 pieces didn't match (top and bottom frames) so they had to send the whole original batch back and wait for the new batch.  Last I've seen they're selling off these off-color 2 tones at a discount price over at Korean keyboards enthusiast forums (where whiskerBox frequents a lot these days lol).

Now I was told that the 2 tone color on the frames couldn't be fixed and that they're not going to make them in titanium anymore on the next group buy.  TBH, on mine, I can't really tell the difference too much unless I'm looking at it from an angle with some bright/natural light shining on the case.  Anyone else got the same color please post some pics of your frames.

Earlier pic of the frames (the ones they sent back)



That's it for now and if you have any question please let me know.
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« Reply #1 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:11:42 »
Gorgeous looking! Yeah once you go into the realm of customs the normal ones just aren't the same haha

BTW silver > titanium I already told BiNi this :rofl:
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« Reply #2 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:23:45 »
Meh, I like my titanium anyway. :fish:  Here's a pic of the silver one (borrowed from Taeyoung).



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« Reply #3 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:29:43 »
Where do i get one O_O
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« Reply #4 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:29:52 »
So jealous Reaper!
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« Reply #5 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:33:49 »
Great choice in color reaper.
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« Reply #6 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:34:08 »
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Where do i get one O_O

Quote from: whiskerBox;560622
So jealous Reaper!

They just started selling the ones with mismatched color frames here.  Find a proxy in Korea to see whether you can get one or not.  If not, I've read that us and DT "might be" included in the next group buy...  keep your fingers crossed.

Whisker, you should know this since you posted there a couple times now. =P
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« Reply #7 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:37:15 »
did you see the 456?

150 sets sold in minutes O.O

And welcome to The Korean Custom Keyboard Club!
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« Reply #8 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:54:46 »
Beautiful keyboard. Bummer it has blacks.
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« Reply #9 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:55:53 »
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Beautiful keyboard. Bummer it has blacks.

Blacks with 50g springs aren't blacks.
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« Reply #10 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:58:33 »
are 50g springs clear springs?
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« Reply #11 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:00:53 »
it's a custom spring if im not mistaken.

clears are 55, blacks 60 and reds 45. so, not as light as a red, but not as heavy as a black.

topre is MX form?
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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:13:31 »
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are 50g springs clear springs?

It is likely that they are custom springs. Also, I think clear springs are much heavier(require much more force to depress) than 50g.

I wonder if I should try to get one this time.. The pricing of the so-called defective package is 220000 KRW (about 200 USD) However, even if you get a hold of the package(I think it would be tough to get one), you would still need to get parts such as switches, stabilizers, and key caps not to mention you would have to assemble it yourself or have some one do it for you at about $50 (or more if you want more things done on your board).

From the picture, I see the switches are sticker modded, possibly lubricated. I lubricated my Poker with Krytox and it feels very different and smooth. It also sounds different (very little rattling noise).
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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:28:20 »
i have no idea what you're talking about
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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:34:50 »
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A 62g compression spring is a 62g compression spring.  Hooke's law.

Even if it is gold.

I don't know what you mean..

OP states it is 50g spring and I said I think it is custom spring and 50g spring is different from springs from clears.

And why are you suddenly talking about 62g spring and Hooke's law? If you are talking about the reason for custom springs, I believe it is because they want different force. They are not making clones of Cherry original springs with same specification from just different materials.
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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:34:56 »
i know what a spring is. what does all this rambling have to do with reaper's KMAC? those are obviously not the ones in his keyboard since he said they were 50g.
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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:37:55 »
oh no, the old ripster is trying to come out!!!!

nobody is arguing that a gold spring is better than w/e material is currently used. mkawa was just asking if 50g spring was also a clear spring, which we already answered him.
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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:40:20 »
Haha before you guys start tripping on the springs, let me double check my source first. ><

And yes, it doesn't feel like black at all.  More like reds if you ask me.
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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:42:30 »
clearly, ripster has recently become obsessed with david byrne and has decided to take "stop making sense" to heart.
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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:51:49 »
there's no way a clear is a 100g spring. where did you get that data from? my spares are a couple states away, but i'm guessing they're around 70g

anyway i had no idea the koreans were getting custom springs made in any material, much less gold. it seems like cherry ships a compatible spring at every reasonable point between 40g and 70g or so, so it seems unnecessary, but despite the physics 101 description of spring behavior, there are probably many subtleties to coil spring design, even at this scale, soooo
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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:56:01 »
no, i refuse this request.

-SENT FROM MY "SMART" PHONE (lol it is really bright really)
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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 16:06:03 »
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Well, if you don't actually READ my posts and CLICK the links how bright does that make you?
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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 16:10:20 »
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Reaper, where did your 50g number come from?  RipOmeter or the Koreans?

Sorry but it's 55g springs from my source.  I corrected the review already.  Sorry for the typo everyone.  Didn't mean to cause such a commotion. lol
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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 16:11:48 »
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These.
Show Image


 Or do you mean Hooke's Law?  Here:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?22025-TIL-%28Today-I-Learned%29-Ripster-Trivia-Of-The-Day&p=451816&viewfull=1#post451816

When you use photos that do not belong to you, you should cite sources.

That spring is from recent group buy by KBDMania syryan. It is gold plated for cool factor only and it stands out from other springs(helps distinguishing). That is what syryan said.

However, when he plated gold on to those spring, he did it in a way that doesn't affect uniformness as some plating process can cause randomness in the forces, hence there had to be price increase.

If you don't know what it is and how it is, please don't fool yourself by saying something irrelevant.
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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 16:14:40 »
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Sorry but it's 55g springs from my source.  I corrected the review already.  Sorry for the typo everyone.  Didn't mean to cause such a commotion. lol
no worries. we're just screwing around. so freaking jealous of the keyboard. going to see if i can find a korean proxy for one of the "defective" kits..
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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 16:28:26 »
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I'm actually trying to figure out THIS post.

You mean activation force right?

Reaper, where did your 50g number come from?  RipOmeter or the Koreans?


yeah, activation force. sorry.
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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 16:53:11 »
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no worries. we're just screwing around. so freaking jealous of the keyboard. going to see if i can find a korean proxy for one of the "defective" kits..

You know, for that price...  I'd get another one. lol
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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 17:35:06 »
i'll let you know if i manage to find a hookup...
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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 17:37:43 »
Wow sick board Reaper! Congrats!
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« Reply #29 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 17:40:38 »
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When you use photos that do not belong to you, you should cite sources.

That spring is from recent group buy by KBDMania syryan. It is gold plated for cool factor only and it stands out from other springs(helps distinguishing). That is what syryan said.

However, when he plated gold on to those spring, he did it in a way that doesn't affect uniformness as some plating process can cause randomness in the forces, hence there had to be price increase.

Thanks for the clarification, limmy.   I think I may have seen you posting over at KBDMania a lot.  It's good to know that we have some members from there posting here as well. =)

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i'll let you know if i manage to find a hookup...

I hope you find one.  Good luck! =)

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Wow sick board Reaper! Congrats!

Thanks KL! =)
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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 20:50:57 »
Sheeeeet that's the best keyboard I've seen since I've been here  :hail:
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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 21:18:55 »
Heh, thanks.  I'm sure you've seen better. =P  Anyway, right now I'm using that red acrylic keyboard since I just got the spacebar. lol
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« Reply #32 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 22:24:39 »
What spacebar is it?
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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 22:27:01 »
A 7unit spacebar. You can get it from  Cherry black on white DS set.  Now where's yours? ;)
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« Reply #34 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 01:03:06 »
At the customs.
Should be here by Sunday =)
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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 01:29:30 »
Please make sure to post some pics.  Can't wait to see it. =P
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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 14:48:11 »
Congrats reaper, your KMAC looks awesome.
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« Reply #37 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 16:06:06 »
Thanks RiGs.  Wait till you guys see kaissereich's. =P

Edit: Red Alert set came in...  Pics in OP. =P
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« Reply #38 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 17:44:36 »
I am so jelly!  How come I haven't received my red alert set yet?  Reaper, you are in LA, right?
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« Reply #39 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 17:51:09 »
Yup, same as demik, kick, sherryton, etc. =P  I'm sure you'll get yours soon.
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« Reply #40 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 17:55:46 »
Anyone else in the USA who haven't received your red alert set yet, if you ordered a red alert set from sixty?
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« Reply #41 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 17:59:29 »
Me, because sixty demanded I pay with unspeakable favors.
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« Reply #42 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 18:03:46 »
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Anyone else in the USA who haven't received your red alert set yet, if you ordered a red alert set from sixty?

I don't know where my set is, but I do know its not in my hands yet
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« Reply #43 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 18:23:34 »
Did you guys get the tracking numbers from sixty?


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« Reply #44 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 18:25:15 »
No.  No tracking number.  No PM that said it is on the way :-(
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« Reply #45 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 18:29:27 »
I got the tracking numbers from sixty and it came in through NY.  Custom there released it way faster than their west coast counterpart (my KMAC came in at LAX and the custom took their sweet time before they release it lol).

Might wanna pm sixty again to see if he has any tracking numbers for your set.
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« Reply #46 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 20:40:21 »
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did you see the 456?

150 sets sold in minutes O.O


11 minutes to be exact and you have to take quizzes before you can place an order. ><
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« Reply #47 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 20:47:55 »
god that looks amazing with the red alert set!
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« Reply #48 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 22:41:38 »
Thanks and yup, I'm pretty happy with it.  Guess you could say it was worth waiting 7 - 8 months for it. lol
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« Reply #49 on: Sat, 31 March 2012, 22:58:14 »
I've never understood the fuss over the red alerts... but that number row really ties the set together.
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