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[IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - GB Sept 30 to Oct 31
« on: Mon, 12 July 2021, 03:39:06 »


Maestro in SP SA profile!
Manufacturer = Signature Plastics
♪ Finish/Material = Doubleshot ABS
♪ Made in USA

GB Page is Live!



♪ Alphas: WCK • Modifiers/Legends: NN • Accents: RAL 1024 ♪



Kittings and Price estimates are not final and may change during the course of the IC.

SA Uniform R3 Kit
Target retail price approximately $155-165 ♪ Covers many keyboard layouts (from 40% to full size/1800 layout) with minimal ISO Support AND alice-layout support.



SA Sculpted TKL Kit (1-1-2-3-4-3)
Target retail price approximately $130-140  ♪ Covers up to TKL layout with UK-ISO Support.



Sculpted Numpad Kit
Target retail price approximately $35-45  ♪ Including PgDn R1 key for several 1800/full size support



Arrows Kit
Target retail price approximately $14-20  ♪ Compatible with Uniform R3 Kit as well as Sculpted TKL kit



Pedals Kit (Spacebars)
Target retail price approximately $21-25  ♪ Including 3u convex minibars and accent spacebars/minibars (NOTE: the 1u x 2 is concave)





Render album here (Last updated Jul 12, 2021)



TX-Cp V2 by TX Keyboards - SA R3 Uniform Profile



Atlas by Nasp - SA R3 Uniform Profile



Hiney TKL-One - SA Sculpted Profile



Sunsetter - SA Sculpted Profile with Arrows Kit



TGR Alice - SA Uniform R3



Deskmats

Nocturne
Minimal design featuring Maestro Logo - Print stitched, 900 x 400 mm. Target retail price approximately $18-25



1stGarden Deskmat(s)
TBA - Will update here once it's finished!

(some initial concepts are on the IC Form. Please help decide!)

Vendors

USA: Vala Supply
UK: Proto[Typist]
EU: MKEU
AS/CN: zFrontier
SEA: Monokei
KR: SWAGKeys
OCE: SwitchKeys
CANADA: Ashkeebs

Approximate GB Date: Late Q3 2021

May change indefinitely. More exact date will be announced soon.

Collabs

Monokei Metal Keycap (R3)



1stGarden Deskmat
Coming soon!

Artisan Cable by RnC Cables
Estimate price: ~$50



Artisan Keycap
TBA. Message me for collab!

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Special Thanks

pwade3 • acitrin • NoPunIntended • Some potential vendors for this set •
also, you!

Again, your feedbacks are greatly appreciated if you are interested in joining the Group Buy! Please comment in this thread or fill in the:

IC Form

« Last Edit: Thu, 30 September 2021, 21:06:12 by HungHingDaiLo »

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - Uniform R3 & Sculpted Profile!
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 12 July 2021, 03:40:35 »
Jull 25, 2021 - Updates on Kitting:

- Adding a Numpad kit (Sculpted)
More

- Adding Arrows Kit
More

- Adding F13 key on Sculpted TKL kit
- Ochre Yellow on Black Esc, Enter(s) will replace the previous Cream on Black (both R3 uniform kit and Sculpted TKL kit.

More


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Listen with your eyes:
More
« Last Edit: Sat, 24 July 2021, 22:37:22 by HungHingDaiLo »

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - Uniform R3 & Sculpted Profile!
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 12 July 2021, 04:10:03 »
Great! SA profile is more beautiful than Cherry profile.

Offline andromache

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - Uniform R3 & Sculpted Profile!
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 12 July 2021, 07:15:45 »
Love SA profile, and super intrigued by the kitting here by offering both R3 and sculpted options. This is such a classy set so I'm glad it's getting the SA treatment!

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - Uniform R3 & Sculpted Profile!
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 12 July 2021, 07:20:38 »
Sculpted get the same novelties? At least the R3 ones if not molds for R1, R2, R4?

Offline Azernith

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - Uniform R3 & Sculpted Profile!
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 12 July 2021, 11:55:46 »
gorgeous, Maestro looks prettier in SA  :) :)

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - Uniform R3 & Sculpted Profile!
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 12 July 2021, 14:28:35 »
As a beakl user, I love seeing R3 SA kits. SA is  my favourite profile. Sadly I can’t bring myself to use anything that has dual legends, but good luck with this. It looks great.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - Uniform R3 & Sculpted Profile!
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 12 July 2021, 21:05:32 »
ll: end game is a lie
« Last Edit: Mon, 12 July 2021, 23:06:56 by Frayne »

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - Uniform R3 & Sculpted Profile!
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 12 July 2021, 22:23:01 »
Oh nice!  Can't wait to use this set before GMK even hits Maestro in the queue, hahaha...

..ha..

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - Uniform R3 & Sculpted Profile!
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 13 July 2021, 08:49:27 »
I like the yellow spacebars. Anyone have any idea how well SA spacebars go with KAT bottom row?

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Update 16 Jul 2021: Vendors

US NA: Vala Supply
UK: Proto[Typist]
AS/CN: zFrontier
SEA: Monokei
KR: SWAGkeys

Other region: TBA

Cheers!
« Last Edit: Sat, 17 July 2021, 06:19:26 by HungHingDaiLo »

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I'm in! Although is there any way to offer any of the desk mats from the GMK GB? I vastly prefer those to the newer designs

Offline kwhilden

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This design looks so good in SA.  So glad I decided ultimately to not get it in GMK. 

As someone that loves scultped SA...  it feels sad that it doesn't have any bottom row or enter novelties.  How about a minimal novelty kit as an add-on?  Or I would pay a little bit more to have more novs added.

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This design looks so good in SA.  So glad I decided ultimately to not get it in GMK. 

As someone that loves scultped SA...  it feels sad that it doesn't have any bottom row or enter novelties.  How about a minimal novelty kit as an add-on?  Or I would pay a little bit more to have more novs added.

I think a minimal novelty kit is kind of unappealing for Uniform R3 kit buyers since many novelties are already included there.
Thanks for your suggestion, though! If you haven't filled the IC form yet, please write your suggestions there as well  :thumb:

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No chance for sculpted num kit ?
« Last Edit: Tue, 20 July 2021, 02:02:52 by manaorme »

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No chance for sculpted num kit ?

Working on it at this moment  :thumb:

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Jull 25, 2021 - Updates on Kitting:

- Adding a Numpad kit (Sculpted)
More

- Adding Arrows Kit for both Uniform & Sculpted
More

- Adding F13 key on Sculpted TKL kit
- Ochre Yellow on Black Esc, Enter(s) will replace the previous Cream on Black (both R3 uniform kit and Sculpted TKL kit.

More



New Kit & Board Renders and other updates will follow soon :)
« Last Edit: Sat, 24 July 2021, 22:40:44 by HungHingDaiLo »

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Are there plans to have a Canadian vendor (CA)

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Are there plans to have a Canadian vendor (CA)

Yes. Will update once it's settled.

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Will probably be my first SA set. First classy thing in SA i've seen in a while. Well done mate

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Why not have a few more novelties in the sculpted kit? It just doesn't make sense why uniform has so many and sculpted has so few.

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Why not have a few more novelties in the sculpted kit? It just doesn't make sense why uniform has so many and sculpted has so few.

I don't think I can/will add much more keys into the Sculpted kit that will drive up the target retail price that I initially was aiming for.

I'm in! Although is there any way to offer any of the desk mats from the GMK GB? I vastly prefer those to the newer designs

Sadly they are exclusive to GMK Maestro only.
Deskmat designs on the IC form doesn't actually reflect the final one(s) that will be offered, however, I will reveal one design that is the most minimalistic and most preferred based on the IC form survey.

Also, at least one deskmat will be offered by the artist that was involved in GMK Maestro's deskmat design. Stay tuned for the reveal!
« Last Edit: Sun, 25 July 2021, 06:07:00 by HungHingDaiLo »

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - Update 26 July 2021
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 25 July 2021, 21:33:40 »
Kit & Board Render Updated
Thanks to pwade3 for the amazing renders!
1st Deskmat design: Nocturne reveal:



- Adding a Numpad kit (Sculpted)
More

- Adding Arrows Kit for both Uniform & Sculpted
More

- Adding F13 key on Sculpted TKL kit
- Ochre Yellow on Black Esc, Enter(s) will replace the previous Cream on Black (both R3 uniform kit and Sculpted TKL kit.

More



New Kit & Board Renders and other updates will follow soon :)
« Last Edit: Fri, 06 August 2021, 00:42:48 by HungHingDaiLo »

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Looks great! Count me interested.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - Q&A from IC Form Responses
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 06 August 2021, 01:20:25 »
Q&A
Answering some questions from IC form results

On Novelties

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Why aren't there more novelties previously included in the GMK version?

The primary reason is the price point. If most of the novelties from the GMK version is translated into this SP SA version, it would add another $40 - 45 to the existing base kit ($55-60ish approximately if I decided to offer it as separate kit, each profile whether it's sculpted or uniform R3).

Second reason is that some of the novelties from GMK version that I decided to not be included on the SA version have to be modified according to SP's doubleshot restriction that in my opinion, is more 'restrictive'.

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Why do Uniform R3 base kit get more novelties than the Sculpted TKL one?

I want to make the Sculpted TKL kit more affordable and still offers good compatibilities for keyboard layouts. If novelties are what you really want, please consider buying the Uniform R3, or maybe both base kits (!). Most novelties in the Uniform R3 can be used on the bottom row of Sculpted TKL kit (same row profile) :)

On New kits: Arrows & Numpad (Sculpted)

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Why Arrows & Numpad Kit?

61.1% respondents actually wanted a separate accent arrows kit that's in Icon form (rather than the text legend form). The arrows kit can be used to replace the text legend arrows on both base kits (Uniform R3 and Sculpted).

49.5% respondents requested a Numpad kit to compliment the Sculpted TKL base kit. I approve this.

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No International, 40s, Macros kit?

No. Sorry about this. For 40s kit, it was 'sufficiently' covered on the Uniform R3 base kit, please consider buying the Uniform R3 base! They will look awesome on 40s/Ortho keyboard <3



That's it for now. On the other hand,
GB is scheduled on the last week of September 2021.
Will update more in the near future.

Thank you so much (again) for everyone who's interested in this set!

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Collab update #1:

Monokei Metal Keycap (R3)



1stGarden Deskmat
Coming soon!

Artisan Keycap
TBA. Message me for collab!


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Looks amazing!
Brazen Studio, Mason60 now in IC
IG:  @brazenstudio


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That Monokei collab is AMAZING.

Offline Volny

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Very nice set. Some of the kerning of words like SHIFT and INS could do with some widening in my opinion, as the I is incredibly close to the other letters (even in the renders - with real world dye bleed it might be even worse).

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Very nice set. Some of the kerning of words like SHIFT and INS could do with some widening in my opinion, as the I is incredibly close to the other letters (even in the renders - with real world dye bleed it might be even worse).

I do agree with you on the kernings on the renders need to be increased in value.
Don't worry, though, as SP (Signature Plastics) has already owned the standard molds for the keys that has acceptable kernings, safe for ABS double-shot injection processes.

(Sorry for the potato pic)

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OK, if there's a kit that's going to make me double-dip for both GMK and SP SA, this is it.  I will be awaiting the GB.

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Looks amazing!

OK, if there's a kit that's going to make me double-dip for both GMK and SP SA, this is it.  I will be awaiting the GB.

That Monokei collab is AMAZING.

♪ Glad you like it!
More upcoming collab(s) will be announced this week <3


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Artisan Cable by RnCables







Target price: ~$50

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This looks beautiful, can't wait!
So if I wanted to get all the novelties for the sculpted profile, I would need to buy both uniform and sculpted base kit?

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This looks beautiful, can't wait!
So if I wanted to get all the novelties for the sculpted profile, I would need to buy both uniform and sculpted base kit?

Yes, that would be the ideal scenario :)
The kitting of both kits are tuned so that buyers of both sets don't get too much duplicates especially on the modifiers and novelties.

Offline swifthunting

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Already picked up GMK Maestro but the new deskpads, artisan and cable are making me feel some type of way...  ;D

Offline nonstop69

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This looks so much better than GMK, a must buy for me

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Interesting idea to use R3.

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Sculpted TKL Kit Changes (Sep 8, 2021)

Previously, there aren't PgUp/PgDn on R3 and R4, while having a niche alpha-colored Quaver (♪) novelty and Ρ for Spanish alphabet support.



New changes:



Removed R1 Alpha-colored Quaver (♪) and Ρ, adding 1u Row 3 and Row 4 PREV and NEXT modifiers for 65%/75% layout support. These legends are generic and can function as PgUp and PgDn on the said layouts. Thank you konstantin for helping out!


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loving the artisan <3

Offline Bonta

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I didn't get GMK Maestro but now this SA set looks so good  ;D

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Thanks, @key_nes and Bonta! Glad you like it :)

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - GB in September 30! EU vendor added ♪
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 13 September 2021, 05:01:45 »
Group Buy starts September 30, 2021!

Full vendors list:

USA: Vala Supply
UK: Proto[Typist]
EU: MKEU
AS/CN: zFrontier
SEA: Monokei
KR: SWAGKeys
OCE: SwitchKeys
CANADA: Ashkeebs


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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - GB in September 30! EU vendor added ♪
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 13 September 2021, 05:05:02 »
I may have missed something, but why does the R3 kit not have full UK-ISO support but the sculpted kit does?

Basically if you want novelties, you need to get R3 kit.

So if I want both novelties and UK-ISO, I'd have to buy both base kits. Think it would have been better to give both kits novelties and let people decide if they want to pay more for sculpted or less for R3. It's a bit annoying that one kit has novelties and the other doesn't.

Hard decisions to make...
« Last Edit: Mon, 13 September 2021, 05:15:57 by Bonta »

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - GB in September 30! EU vendor added ♪
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 13 September 2021, 05:50:50 »
I may have missed something, but why does the R3 kit not have full UK-ISO support but the sculpted kit does?

I wish I can fit in full UK-ISO on the uniform kit, but it's already abundant as is.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - GB in September 30! EU vendor added ♪
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 14 September 2021, 00:31:26 »
Interested in the sculpted TKL set. Definitely will buy.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - GB in September 30! EU vendor added ♪
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 22 September 2021, 08:30:55 »
Interested in the sculpted TKL set. Definitely will buy.

Thank you!

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - GB in September 30! EU vendor added ♪
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 22 September 2021, 12:02:21 »
As much as I love this set. I'm too annoyed that the sculpted set has only one useful novelty for non-iso. It's baffling why the designer thinks that's a good choice. So I'll be passing on it.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - GB in September 30! EU vendor added ♪
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 27 September 2021, 04:23:10 »
GB Page is now live here.

Will update the prices for all region once they are all finalized, as well as other updates.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Maestro ♪ - GB Sept 30 to Oct 31
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 30 September 2021, 21:25:28 »
Update Oct 1, 2021, Re: Colormatching
WV Color Changed to WCK


After comparing samples of plastic chips from SP and discussing with beamingrobot (designer of SA VoC), I have decided to go with WCK instead of WV because it's more creamer and closer to GMK Maestro's alphas.

Pic of WCK (The F1 key) compared to GMK Maestro samples and SP's stock color plastic chips:



Pic of WCK (The F1 key) compared to GMK Maestro alphas and SP's WV:



TL/DR: WCK apparently is closer to GMK Maestro's alphas than WV so I have decided to go with WCK.