personally i dont feel like theres a need for higher capacity ssds honestly4TB is enough in most cases yes, but if your hobby is cinematography and you collect 3000 movies, then you need a bigger drive, or else you gonna end up having multiple ones and shuffling....
Don't forget 4k movies. Some movies on my drives are over 40Gb, and there are hundreds of them!
Recently looks like SSD manuafacturers rather want to race against each other with SSD R/W speeds, instead of raising its capacity...
personally i dont feel like theres a need for higher capacity ssds honestly4TB is enough in most cases yes, but if your hobby is cinematography and you collect 3000 movies, then you need a bigger drive, or else you gonna end up having multiple ones and shuffling....
personally i dont feel like theres a need for higher capacity ssds honestly4TB is enough in most cases yes, but if your hobby is cinematography and you collect 3000 movies, then you need a bigger drive, or else you gonna end up having multiple ones and shuffling....
in that case, i say: Why the hell do you have 3000 movies
Only elite members of the Never Outside Society has watched 3000+ movies.
I definitely watched more than 3000
I definitely watched more than 3000
Me too, but the movies that I would want to download or rip to store them permanently at home on my own device is a small subset of the ones that I have merely watched.
personally i dont feel like theres a need for higher capacity ssds honestly4TB is enough in most cases yes, but if your hobby is cinematography and you collect 3000 movies, then you need a bigger drive, or else you gonna end up having multiple ones and shuffling....
i feel like thats just a special case then. if you have a hobby like that where you use a large amount of digital storage then i think you should expect to need a specialty drive/amount of storage. most SSDs arent made for cinematography enthusiasts haha. i do some photography and i just accept that im not the average customer for companies that make these storage mediums
in that case, i say: Why the hell do you have 3000 movies
I like movies, I'm collecting them, but only those that I liked or important part of the cinematography.
8tb , that's huge. :eek:
8tb , that's huge. :eek:
Yeah, cool, isn't it? I'm impressed.
To compare, my first SSD I bought was OCZ Vertex 32GB, paid for it £230 as far as I remember. Now, for 8000GB I paid £280.
I have already run couple of full re-recordings of my collection of movies, games, mp3 music and tv shows. Collection of course grew in amount of data, by getting new games, mp3s, or higher res movies.
First was burning it all on 650MB CDs, I had maybe a thousand. Then, years later, when they released 4.7GB DVDs I burnt it all again, reducing amount of discs.
Then did it again when they released double layer 8.5 GB DVDs, reducing collection by half. Then, I moved it all to portable 2.5" USB HDDs (4TB).
Tonight I dumping all stuff from HDDs to this single 8TB SSD.
8tb , that's huge. :eek:
Yeah, cool, isn't it? I'm impressed.
To compare, my first SSD I bought was OCZ Vertex 32GB, paid for it £230 as far as I remember. Now, for 8000GB I paid £280.
I have already run couple of full re-recordings of my collection of movies, games, mp3 music and tv shows. Collection of course grew in amount of data, by getting new games, mp3s, or higher res movies.
First was burning it all on 650MB CDs, I had maybe a thousand. Then, years later, when they released 4.7GB DVDs I burnt it all again, reducing amount of discs.
Then did it again when they released double layer 8.5 GB DVDs, reducing collection by half. Then, I moved it all to portable 2.5" USB HDDs (4TB).
Tonight I dumping all stuff from HDDs to this single 8TB SSD.
8TB SSD media drives? What a time to be alive. Silly question, but do you have a backup for that (some sort of raid, NAS or cloud service)?
I learnt my lesson the hard way; I used to store media on a 2TB HDD. It died after 3 years and I lost all the files.
I learnt my lesson the hard way; I used to store media on a 2TB HDD. It died after 3 years and I lost all the files.
8tb , that's huge. :eek:
Yeah, cool, isn't it? I'm impressed.
To compare, my first SSD I bought was OCZ Vertex 32GB, paid for it £230 as far as I remember. Now, for 8000GB I paid £280.
I have already run couple of full re-recordings of my collection of movies, games, mp3 music and tv shows. Collection of course grew in amount of data, by getting new games, mp3s, or higher res movies.
First was burning it all on 650MB CDs, I had maybe a thousand. Then, years later, when they released 4.7GB DVDs I burnt it all again, reducing amount of discs.
Then did it again when they released double layer 8.5 GB DVDs, reducing collection by half. Then, I moved it all to portable 2.5" USB HDDs (4TB).
Tonight I dumping all stuff from HDDs to this single 8TB SSD.
8TB SSD media drives? What a time to be alive. Silly question, but do you have a backup for that (some sort of raid, NAS or cloud service)?
I learnt my lesson the hard way; I used to store media on a 2TB HDD. It died after 3 years and I lost all the files.
At this moment I have a backup copy of it on 2x 4TB HDDs, but going to buy another 8TB SSD later :)
I need to have a backup fo it as this is huge and old collection, if I lose it I won't be able to gather this all again, some of 80s-90s movies might not be possible to find nowadays.
I learnt my lesson the hard way; I used to store media on a 2TB HDD. It died after 3 years and I lost all the files.
Pretty much everyone learns that way.
If you're lucky it's a slow death and you can save stuff or happens before you acquire too much stuff.
8tb , that's huge. :eek:
Yeah, cool, isn't it? I'm impressed.
To compare, my first SSD I bought was OCZ Vertex 32GB, paid for it £230 as far as I remember. Now, for 8000GB I paid £280.
I have already run couple of full re-recordings of my collection of movies, games, mp3 music and tv shows. Collection of course grew in amount of data, by getting new games, mp3s, or higher res movies.
First was burning it all on 650MB CDs, I had maybe a thousand. Then, years later, when they released 4.7GB DVDs I burnt it all again, reducing amount of discs.
Then did it again when they released double layer 8.5 GB DVDs, reducing collection by half. Then, I moved it all to portable 2.5" USB HDDs (4TB).
Tonight I dumping all stuff from HDDs to this single 8TB SSD.
8TB SSD media drives? What a time to be alive. Silly question, but do you have a backup for that (some sort of raid, NAS or cloud service)?
I learnt my lesson the hard way; I used to store media on a 2TB HDD. It died after 3 years and I lost all the files.
At this moment I have a backup copy of it on 2x 4TB HDDs, but going to buy another 8TB SSD later :)
I need to have a backup fo it as this is huge and old collection, if I lose it I won't be able to gather this all again, some of 80s-90s movies might not be possible to find nowadays.
2 8TB drives for a raid setup perhaps? :cool:
You could consider building or buying a NAS and putting your old HDDs to use in it.
I personally use Synology ones and they come with a thing called Video Station that lets you stream videos directly from your NAS to most devices (PC, tablet, TV). I think that feature will be tremendously useful for your situation.
Considering how priceless the collection is to you, I'd totally recommend making a backup to both a NAS and a low cost archiving service like Amazon Glacier (supported natively by Synology NAS).I learnt my lesson the hard way; I used to store media on a 2TB HDD. It died after 3 years and I lost all the files.
Pretty much everyone learns that way.
If you're lucky it's a slow death and you can save stuff or happens before you acquire too much stuff.
Sad but true. Mine failed spectacularly, corrupting all the files on it as it made all sorts of clicks and clangs.
I decided to take data backup more seriously and went down the NAS + cloud path after that. I'll never not use a NAS.
2 8TB drives for a raid setup perhaps? :cool:
No, I'm not doing raid as its external drive, I use it on usb cable to multiple computers. No need for a raid.
NAS and file servers...
Telling, you guys, sooo much easier and nicer.
24/7 access, remote access, smaller main system, lower power consumption (due to not leaving your power hungry desktop running all the time) also lets you offload work and things such as backup from your desktop...
And you can build it out of almost any spare hardware, I've even used tablets and laptops.
I need an external 2Tb drive to hold all my movies when I travel, or just want to watch in the living room.
Currently eyeing the Samsung T9 as it seems to have the highest read speed. Worried about longevity though, Samsung done me dirty in the past.
I am terrified of losing data so I usually stick with 1-2tb and then just buy more. Is doing it like that actually more efficient? Probably not.
I am terrified of losing data so I usually stick with 1-2tb and then just buy more. Is doing it like that actually more efficient? Probably not.
Well, it is scary, its good to have a copy of everything, I used to have 2-3 copies of everything back in 90s :)
Guess what, I bought 8TB SSD recently, copied over all my movies and then drive died after few uses, like 2 weeks after it showed on Windows it needs formatting, just like that...
I lost everything on it, but had a copy on regular drive, so copied over again after formatting. It lost it again after a day. So it was faulty, I sent back to shop and got replacement.
Having a copy saved me. So if you have around 2TB of data, then yeah, I would have a copy of it on at least another one.
They is say prices are going up. Is that BS, or buy now ?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SIzjGPt.gif)
Seems to always around this time of year, it should drop down again end of summer.
Seems to always around this time of year, it should drop down again end of summer.
Cool. Yeah, I noticed the pattern over the years. SOmetimes it fluctuates, but goes up around summer time. What could be the reason?
even smaller industries such as bicycle shops have to have their Christmas orders placed by June if they expect to have it in time
I haven't looked, but the industry was in freefall just before Christmas (which is really rare), sales tanked and a bunch of companies were on the edge of going under.even smaller industries such as bicycle shops have to have their Christmas orders placed by June if they expect to have it in time
Don't get me started on the cycling industry manufacturing shortages. The local bike bubble here nearly rivaled the Pokemon craze over covid. If only I could sell my many-year-old heavily used HDD for 2x retail like I could a dirty road bike.
I haven't looked, but the industry was in freefall just before Christmas (which is really rare), sales tanked and a bunch of companies were on the edge of going under.even smaller industries such as bicycle shops have to have their Christmas orders placed by June if they expect to have it in time
Don't get me started on the cycling industry manufacturing shortages. The local bike bubble here nearly rivaled the Pokemon craze over covid. If only I could sell my many-year-old heavily used HDD for 2x retail like I could a dirty road bike.
Not sure why but I guess they expected the party to keep going forever. I was extremely temped to upgrade but I just didn't want to saddle myself with payments for a year and work has me working long hours anyhow so..
Check Jensenusa, they always have killer deals.
I'm praying that this AI craze will also drive storage tech since those training datasets are many many PB
Some testing.
No Heatsink 53C idle.. Heatsink 35C idle.
which heatsink did you use?
I'm praying that this AI craze will also drive storage tech since those training datasets are many many PB
Just speculating, the AI boom is more likely to drive up prices in the short term. And on the tech side of things, it seems like the real winner is Nvidia while storage tech is seemingly moving at its own pace, determined largely by cloud service demand.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that people needed petabyte scale storage clusters well before this craze and will continue to need it for all-time.
Plenty of industries rely on similar scales of data, I don't think we'll see a shortage and price spike the same as we say for crypto and AI on GPUs
Also speculating here, but I don't know of many folks training their own models on PB scale datasets either. That sort of training is ludicrously expensive and, outside of the startups getting fun money thrown in their direction, most folks are using off-the-shelf models for most of their heavy lifting.
Also speculating here, but I don't know of many folks training their own models on PB scale datasets either. That sort of training is ludicrously expensive and, outside of the startups getting fun money thrown in their direction, most folks are using off-the-shelf models for most of their heavy lifting.
The trend seems to be towards the deployment of cloud-based, pre-trained foundation models which are then fine-tuned by businesses using local datasets. Due to the latter, SMB/enterprise demand for storage is likely to grow more than usual. My personal take is that individual PC users only ever account for a small share of hardware demand.
Looks like we will get bigger SSDs soon, phinix is now a happy hippo :)
Bring on 8TB SSD for $200! :D
https://www.techpowerup.com/321557/samsung-readies-290-layer-3d-nand-for-may-2024-debut-planning-430-layer-for-2025
Enterprise drives are where the highest capacities are at.
- 15TB used NVMe SSDs from data centers could be bought for $700 last year before prices rose (again).
- The Soldigm 61TB (NVMe) model was selling new for $3700 late last year before the price rises pushed it to $6400.
- Someone on Reddit was selling a 100TB Nimbus SSD (SATA only) with 70% wear for $3k.
They also have better endurance than consumer drives. Eg: the current Solidgm ~8TB (QLC, NVMe) model is twice the endurance of Samsung's QVO (QLC, SATA) equivalent. Their 61TB model endurance is 65PBW (petabytes written not terabytes).
I'm all for buying used enterprise hardware, but not drives. The wear stats on those drive are insane, spinning rust or solid state. It's like buying a bike off a pro-tour cyclist in training
Those wear levels can be overwritten and changed. Same with HDD hours. That's the risk you get with enterprise used.
Everything I've read shows that only SMART resets using vendor specific low level tools are possible, rather than any specific values, hence why users can still gauge this.
But how do you then gauge whether they're setting up a plausible ruse using such tools? To them it's money, and they know the vast majority of buyers have such low loads that they wouldn't notice the cheat.