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Offline MrFurrior

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (GB Closed - Final numbers in)
« Reply #100 on: Tue, 19 November 2019, 16:10:38 »
When will the raffle for the Kendo be announced?

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (GB Closed - Final numbers in)
« Reply #101 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 12:08:40 »
RAL color samples are in:


Sending these out to get tested.

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (GB Closed - Final numbers in)
« Reply #102 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 21:13:31 »
RAL color samples are in:
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Sending these out to get tested.

Amazing, looks great, excited!
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Offline zizard

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (GB Closed - Final numbers in)
« Reply #103 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 22:11:05 »
What sort of test results do you get from the swatches and what's the purpose of the tests? Will you be comparing to some known / ideal test results?

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (GB Closed - Final numbers in)
« Reply #104 on: Thu, 28 November 2019, 19:53:28 »
Looks awesome, putting them on the Polaris

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (GB Closed - Final numbers in)
« Reply #105 on: Thu, 28 November 2019, 22:27:01 »
What sort of test results do you get from the swatches and what's the purpose of the tests? Will you be comparing to some known / ideal test results?

A spectrophotometer was used to measure/record the reflectance over wavelengths on the RAL color swatches. We will run the same test on the GMK samples we received.

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (GB Closed - Final numbers in)
« Reply #106 on: Sat, 30 November 2019, 20:37:45 »
What sort of test results do you get from the swatches and what's the purpose of the tests? Will you be comparing to some known / ideal test results?

A spectrophotometer was used to measure/record the reflectance over wavelengths on the RAL color swatches. We will run the same test on the GMK samples we received.

Science... nice!

Offline OracleKev

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (GB Closed - Final numbers in)
« Reply #107 on: Sat, 30 November 2019, 20:49:17 »
What sort of test results do you get from the swatches and what's the purpose of the tests? Will you be comparing to some known / ideal test results?

A spectrophotometer was used to measure/record the reflectance over wavelengths on the RAL color swatches. We will run the same test on the GMK samples we received.

Science... nice!

What sort of test results do you get from the swatches and what's the purpose of the tests? Will you be comparing to some known / ideal test results?

A spectrophotometer was used to measure/record the reflectance over wavelengths on the RAL color swatches. We will run the same test on the GMK samples we received.

Science... nice!

Awesome  :thumb:

Offline onefivenine

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #108 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 17:13:30 »
TLDR: The alpha sample is spot on and passes the test. The mod sample is slightly darker/saturated (going to request second sample)











The important values to note here are DELTA values. The RAL swatch was re-recorded to check for consistency and the readings from the keycap was from the side of the cap where the texture would interfere the least.

Offline onefivenine

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #109 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 17:14:10 »
P.S. I have re-opened the GB at GB price for today only (cyber monday)
https://store.projectkeyboard.com/collections/gmk-bingsu

Thanks for looking!

Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #110 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 18:12:52 »
Glad the alpha color is staying the same. That one looks great!

PS: tell reddit about the reopening

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #111 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 20:07:05 »
The colors and color-matching look awesome!  Very excited!

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #112 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 20:12:56 »
Also amazed by how you use reflectance wavelength to do color-matching.  Very professional to me lol.

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #113 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 20:20:40 »
Does the Delta indicate some sort of deviation?  Just by looking at the graph, the light one has a bigger deviation to me, though actually the dark one has.

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #114 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 22:57:56 »
Does the Delta indicate some sort of deviation?  Just by looking at the graph, the light one has a bigger deviation to me, though actually the dark one has.

The DeltaEab is the euclidean distance between the sample and reference on the CIELab colorspace - which takes into account the human visual system; at neutral a DeltaE of 1 is considered a just noticeable difference. The spectral reflectance measurements are purely about how the materials reflect a standard illuminant. the plastic for sure has some kind of peak in the near infrared but the important part is the number of times that the lines cross each other while having very similar shapes.

Offline zizard

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #115 on: Tue, 03 December 2019, 02:15:27 »
I would guess that the percentage difference between the two lines is more important than the absolute difference, so the full 0-100 scale on the dark sample graph distorts one's perceptions.

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #116 on: Tue, 03 December 2019, 02:56:04 »
TLDR: The alpha sample is spot on and passes the test. The mod sample is slightly darker/saturated (going to request second sample)


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The important values to note here are DELTA values. The RAL swatch was re-recorded to check for consistency and the readings from the keycap was from the side of the cap where the texture would interfere the least.
This makes me feel proud as a scientist in training

Hell yeah for doing quantitative studies on this!

Offline Nebulant

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #117 on: Tue, 03 December 2019, 18:25:18 »
I would guess that the percentage difference between the two lines is more important than the absolute difference, so the full 0-100 scale on the dark sample graph distorts one's perceptions.

A straight percentage difference of the reflectance graphs would not make much sense, the human visual system is not linear and varies per wavelength. Taking the reflectance and putting it into a color space such as CIELab and then calculating a difference provides (DeltaEab) as close as you can get to a single number to describe difference.

Offline onefivenine

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #118 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 20:14:28 »
Update:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102936.msg2821714#msg2821714

GMK Renders in
- Signing off on kits
- Requested second color sample for RAL 360 30 10 (aiming for DELTA < -/+ 1)

Offline onefivenine

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #119 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:20:43 »
Round 2 Samples:



Results:



Slight improvement and visibly less saturated.

Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #120 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:55:55 »
Gonna stick with this mod color or do another round?

Offline onefivenine

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #121 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 18:45:58 »
Gonna stick with this mod color or do another round?

Want to request one last round and choose the best between the 3. Personally, I think the less saturated mods compliment the alphas better.

Offline coblee

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #122 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 18:47:50 »
Any updates on the kendo/artisan raffles?

Offline jooobe

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #123 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 18:54:07 »
Looking good


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Offline MrFurrior

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #124 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 07:09:03 »
Really impressed with the testing of the samples  :D

Offline scoopbb

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #125 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 11:06:58 »
super appreciative of you buying out 40s. really glad i got into this, looks dope

Offline MelonBred

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #126 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 12:45:17 »
Unfortunately missed the group buy, but hoping there are extras. I would love to purchase base and 40's kit if they're available when everything ships.

Offline flippanteer

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #127 on: Wed, 12 February 2020, 09:25:30 »
Seconded, really looking to get an extra!
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Offline damagepoint

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #128 on: Wed, 12 February 2020, 14:18:02 »
Unfortunately missed the group buy, but hoping there are extras. I would love to purchase base and 40's kit if they're available when everything ships.

There were actually a fair amount of extra 40's kits ordered relative to how many sold because Projectkeyboard and its partners were nice enough to buy out the MOQ, so your chances are probably reasonable at getting both a base extra and 40s.  There seem to be GMK delays across the board so theres still a while before they would go up.  Your best bet would be to subscribe to the newsletter and watch for updates https://store.projectkeyboard.com/

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #129 on: Wed, 12 February 2020, 14:20:28 »
Unfortunately missed the group buy, but hoping there are extras. I would love to purchase base and 40's kit if they're available when everything ships.

There were actually a fair amount of extra 40's kits ordered relative to how many sold because Projectkeyboard and its partners were nice enough to buy out the MOQ, so your chances are probably reasonable at getting both a base extra and 40s.  There seem to be GMK delays across the board so theres still a while before they would go up.  Your best bet would be to subscribe to the newsletter and watch for updates https://store.projectkeyboard.com/

Wonderful, thanks for the notice!
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Offline damagepoint

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #130 on: Sat, 22 February 2020, 14:47:27 »

Offline flippanteer

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Offline KoyBoi

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #132 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 12:30:23 »
Anyone know how long the Project Keyboard pre-order is until? Thanks

Offline Mysteric

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #133 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 13:54:09 »
Will any EU vendors have extras?

Offline Brez1623

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #134 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 21:46:59 »
How did the R3 color matching go, is this set now in production? I see on the website it says still waiting for R3 samples even though they were talked about back in January.

Offline FinalEleven

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 08 April 2020, 06:22:04 »
AFAIK, they're still waiting on R3...everything slowed down to a crawl due to the current pandemic.

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #136 on: Wed, 08 April 2020, 07:03:46 »
Anyone know how long the Project Keyboard pre-order is until? Thanks
Those are extras I believe. The GB period already ended November iirc.

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Offline dydy124

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #137 on: Sun, 03 May 2020, 21:58:18 »
Anynews avail?  :)

Offline Ccoelum

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« Reply #138 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 09:53:04 »
Any news on R3?

How badly has the pandemic affected GMK?

Offline Ccoelum

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #139 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 13:13:49 »
Just wondering if it would be possible to update the Hangul legends on this to be he updated molds like the ones seen on the gmk Blink/pulse sets?

Offline ackzot

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« Reply #140 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 15:59:51 »
Just wondering if it would be possible to update the Hangul legends on this to be he updated molds like the ones seen on the gmk Blink/pulse sets?

I asked for this during the interest check. It created a bit of drama (just a little, not a lot). In the end they went with the traditional sublegends.

That being said, 159 did seriously consider it. i respect 159, and regardless, i did order it. 
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Offline Ccoelum

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« Reply #141 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 16:11:48 »
Just wondering if it would be possible to update the Hangul legends on this to be he updated molds like the ones seen on the gmk Blink/pulse sets?

I asked for this during the interest check. It created a bit of drama (just a little, not a lot). In the end they went with the traditional sublegends.

That being said, 159 did seriously consider it. i respect 159, and regardless, i did order it.

Ah okay that’s fair, I prefer the cleaner new molds but if the majority prefer the traditional ones then...shrug.

Hopefully we can hear back from GMK soon.

Offline Tomothy

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #142 on: Wed, 13 May 2020, 20:48:48 »
Are we still waiting on R3 samples...?

Offline Ccoelum

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #143 on: Mon, 18 May 2020, 13:33:41 »
Looks like R3 samples finally arrived.

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (R1 Samples)
« Reply #144 on: Mon, 18 May 2020, 13:43:59 »
man this looks so good

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (Samples Approved - In Production)
« Reply #145 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 03:49:00 »
Hey folks,

Appreciate all the patience. R3 samples were signed off and we are moving forward  :D

Here are the test results:







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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (Samples Approved - In Production)
« Reply #146 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 04:05:42 »
That looks almost good to eat! Well done and thanks for the precise color matching. I can't wait to see how the final product turns out.

Offline damagepoint

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (Samples Approved - In Production)
« Reply #147 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 05:59:36 »
Hell yea lets goooooo.  Super stoked.

Offline Quriosity

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (Samples Approved - In Production)
« Reply #148 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 06:32:21 »
Great work - I'll be really happy to finally have this set on hand and I'm thankful for all the hard work that was put into making sure the colors are just what was envisioned. Many, many thanks!

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Re: [GB] GMK Bingsu (Samples Approved - In Production)
« Reply #149 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 06:33:33 »
Pre-order for extras up today on projectkeyboard.