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I hope you like the concept, the feedbacks are much appreciated!
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The Base Kit is containing everything you need for the most common layouts along with alternatives if you want no accent keys. As Origami is a Japanese art form, I chose to include Hiragana sublegends!
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Introducing ePBT Origami, a keycap set inspired by the art of paper folding, Origami 折り紙.
I hope you like the concept, the feedbacks are much appreciated!
(https://imgur.com/UnnWrhf.png)
The Base Kit is containing everything you need for the most common layouts along with alternatives if you want no accent keys. As Origami is a Japanese art form, I chose to include Hiragana sublegends!
Hiragana Base - $85
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Latin Base - $85
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All of the novelties are bought through https://thenounproject.com/ (https://thenounproject.com/)
Credit to Lluisa Iborra for the icons.
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The Accents Kit will cover some accented colored spacebars and arrows.
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International Kit will cover most European ISO layouts.
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[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111860.0][img width=300 height=120]https://imgur.com/KUBOzw2.png[/img][/url]Post by: Nukz on Sun, 21 March 2021, 15:27:25
04/05/2021
New update posted!
- Monokei Metal Keycaps Added
- Added new renders of TGR 901
- Added new renders of TGR Jane
- Added new renders of TGR Alice
Post by: Baka Bot on Sun, 21 March 2021, 15:37:38
Post by: Pontus on Sun, 21 March 2021, 15:42:41
Ok this is much nicer :thumb:
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Post by: Ustinj on Sun, 21 March 2021, 17:27:23
I would either save these colors for another set or re theme. because origami is a great theme with potential for excellent novelties. but this colorway kind of feels like it butchers the potential of the theme
Post by: DotMatrix on Sun, 21 March 2021, 17:48:39
I have a large collection of origami books (60+) from around the world that detail many kinds of models and designs as well as the theory, mathematics, and history of Origami and so I feel adequately knowledgeable to talk about Origami and how it's poorly represented here.
Firstly, the banner graphic for this set shows 2 models, an airplane and some bird. Traditionally, paper airplanes don't really count as Origami, mostly because they often start with non-square paper and often include the use of glue, tape, or multiple pieces. In general though, paper planes don't fit the main intent of Origami, which is the re-creation of nature in paper. The bird one, while being nature derived, looks like someone who doesn't fold/design origami made it digitally. The lines themselves don't make sense in terms how Origami bases are folded. The body has just so many triangles that really wouldn't appear like that normally. On top of that, the wing is also something that wouldn't normally happen. For the bottom part of the wing to end in the middle while the top part extends out would mean an intentional design around that wing vs a natural base design. It's also incredibly 2-dimensional. This is obviously incredibly nit-picky of me, but as someone who's been an Origami Hobbyist for a long time it makes me feel as if the design behind this is was very superficial without much understanding of Origami.
As for the colors, the grays in the base kit don't really make much sense with the theme of Origami, gray and dark gray aren't really "iconic" or "related" in my opinion. The blue is even further from the theme, in my experience, blues used in Origami are a much more royal blue with deepness instead of this teal.
Lastly, while most of the icons look very good and accurate to traditional origami, the choices of models seems a bit odd. The airplane on the Enter Key doesn't feel right to me, it's a pretty prominent key to put something that's not really traditional Origami. The lines on the other models are much realistic and show depth and shape that's very relevant. I think the choices of which models is a bit odd. I'm surprised to not see a traditional crane. They're very simple but incredibly iconic of Origami. The first novelty definitely fits the theme, is iconic, but I wouldn't choose that bird over the crane. While the Fish, Whale, and Dog are all accurate to me, I feel there are better models that could be shown. For example, I'd recommend the turtle, frog, rabbit, boat/hat, or some other ones. They're still cool though. The elephant, if you chose that specifically because of Alain Georgeot's elephant exhibit in which 88 different elephants were made from artists around the world, then I'm deeply impressed. I have a feeling though the choices for novelties were more of "this looks cool".
I like the look of the set in general, although it is very close to Modern Dolch, but I would definitely not agree that Origami is represented well here. This is your set and you're obviously free to design as you'd like, but I feel I should express that this really isn't an Origami set.
Post by: FishyKeebs on Sun, 21 March 2021, 17:54:36
Looks a lot better
Post by: gnaw on Sun, 21 March 2021, 19:00:08
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Sun, 21 March 2021, 19:54:58
I only know a bit about Origami, most of the novelties look good except for the paper airplane.
Post by: Nukz on Mon, 22 March 2021, 01:18:44
As an origami hobbyist for over a decade, I feel that this set only uses Origami as a veneer and isn't truly related to Origami.thank you very much for your time and LONG feedback, i will consider every piece of advice in the next update, be sure that the colors will change and the novelties will be revised too! :thumb:
I have a large collection of origami books (60+) from around the world that detail many kinds of models and designs as well as the theory, mathematics, and history of Origami and so I feel adequately knowledgeable to talk about Origami and how it's poorly represented here.
Firstly, the banner graphic for this set shows 2 models, an airplane and some bird. Traditionally, paper airplanes don't really count as Origami, mostly because they often start with non-square paper and often include the use of glue, tape, or multiple pieces. In general though, paper planes don't fit the main intent of Origami, which is the re-creation of nature in paper. The bird one, while being nature derived, looks like someone who doesn't fold/design origami made it digitally. The lines themselves don't make sense in terms how Origami bases are folded. The body has just so many triangles that really wouldn't appear like that normally. On top of that, the wing is also something that wouldn't normally happen. For the bottom part of the wing to end in the middle while the top part extends out would mean an intentional design around that wing vs a natural base design. It's also incredibly 2-dimensional. This is obviously incredibly nit-picky of me, but as someone who's been an Origami Hobbyist for a long time it makes me feel as if the design behind this is was very superficial without much understanding of Origami.
As for the colors, the grays in the base kit don't really make much sense with the theme of Origami, gray and dark gray aren't really "iconic" or "related" in my opinion. The blue is even further from the theme, in my experience, blues used in Origami are a much more royal blue with deepness instead of this teal.
Lastly, while most of the icons look very good and accurate to traditional origami, the choices of models seems a bit odd. The airplane on the Enter Key doesn't feel right to me, it's a pretty prominent key to put something that's not really traditional Origami. The lines on the other models are much realistic and show depth and shape that's very relevant. I think the choices of which models is a bit odd. I'm surprised to not see a traditional crane. They're very simple but incredibly iconic of Origami. The first novelty definitely fits the theme, is iconic, but I wouldn't choose that bird over the crane. While the Fish, Whale, and Dog are all accurate to me, I feel there are better models that could be shown. For example, I'd recommend the turtle, frog, rabbit, boat/hat, or some other ones. They're still cool though. The elephant, if you chose that specifically because of Alain Georgeot's elephant exhibit in which 88 different elephants were made from artists around the world, then I'm deeply impressed. I have a feeling though the choices for novelties were more of "this looks cool".
I like the look of the set in general, although it is very close to Modern Dolch, but I would definitely not agree that Origami is represented well here. This is your set and you're obviously free to design as you'd like, but I feel I should express that this really isn't an Origami set.
Post by: Nukz on Mon, 22 March 2021, 01:19:42
nice idea, but idk how the concept ties with dark greys and tealThe team is back to work, the colors will be changed ASAP
Post by: Nukz on Mon, 22 March 2021, 01:28:46
I'm loving the novelties and alt alphas! They look great together. Good luck!Thanks a lot for your feedback!
Post by: Nukz on Mon, 22 March 2021, 05:15:38
I really like the colors! GLWIC :thumb:Thank you very much, i appreciate your feedback :D
Post by: kaysoo1337 on Mon, 22 March 2021, 16:52:27
Post by: convoliution on Mon, 22 March 2021, 17:15:09
I can feel this getting closer to the theme. The beige/off-white gives me a feeling of time-worn paper, while the gray adds a modern touch evoking dark creases. I kinda like this take.
Post by: Shorle on Mon, 22 March 2021, 17:43:15
I loved it cause it's about time we got a set like that including NorDe characters and was hoping for this to be the one.
Also, shipment would be close to delivery of Iron 165 R2 with it's teal/petrol case - very fitting imo.
Since the revamp colors may be more fitting to the theme but I consider colors more important than theme, which makes me pass on this now. GLWIC !
Post by: kiwoli on Mon, 22 March 2021, 17:50:53
Origami is not only about final completed object, the instructions and process of folding is just as important. I feel the lexicon of origami, like dotted lines & curved arrows could make an appearance and give a lot more variety to the novelties than are currently on offer at the moment.
Post by: FishyKeebs on Mon, 22 March 2021, 17:54:27
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Post by: baobaozi on Mon, 22 March 2021, 18:14:25
May I request a Colevrak kit please? Pretty please?
Post by: CoolMike on Mon, 22 March 2021, 20:44:51
I think novelties might need a little more work and some invigoration on the set as a whole for the origami theme.
Really nice start! Can't wait to see the deskmat.
Post by: Ustinj on Mon, 22 March 2021, 21:02:15
Some ideas:
- Novelties need some work. Inconsistent stroke thickness is a pet peeve of mine (and probably not just me). Having a more consistent pattern of stroke thickness shows not only experience in design but signals that the designs are made for a specific purpose. What inconsistent stroke thickness tells me (though not always the case), is "I took these images / icons from X and Y, and resized them to fit on Z".
- The difference between the color of alphas and mods (from the renders) is so miniscule that it almost looks more like an error than two different colors. I would opt for both mods and alphas to be the same color if you're going to make them so close. That being said I don't have the reference colors IRL so I can't say whether or not the issue is the render or the colors picked. This set would look astounding if you got rid of the darker beige and just made the mods the same color as alphas. It almost feels like it's falling into cookie-cutter 'Pick a color for mods, alphas, legends, accents' territory - but I think you'd be better off with either making the mods more distinct from the alphas or making them the same.
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Mon, 22 March 2021, 21:17:27
The new colours are much better, I still feel the novelties are not working as hard as they can for the theme you've chosen.
Origami is not only about final completed object, the instructions and process of folding is just as important. I feel the lexicon of origami, like dotted lines & curved arrows could make an appearance and give a lot more variety to the novelties than are currently on offer at the moment.
I agree on this,
with ePBT, you can have more freedom in what to print,
maybe we could have some "creases" or some kinds of folding instructions on the modifier keys? ;D
Post by: santela on Mon, 22 March 2021, 23:12:13
The different line thickness of the novelties also bothers me.
Post by: floweryi on Tue, 23 March 2021, 00:38:38
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 23 March 2021, 01:35:43
Congratulations on the color revamp, I respect that responsiveness to feedback 😊thank you very much for your feedback, be sure that this set will be the best set ever! I am working to make it the best!
I can feel this getting closer to the theme. The beige/off-white gives me a feeling of time-worn paper, while the gray adds a modern touch evoking dark creases. I kinda like this take.
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 23 March 2021, 01:36:50
the more i look at it, the more i like the white/ yellow colours. the subtle greyish blue kinda throws me off though because i feel like origami is often associated with big bold colours and even patterns. another thing that is a little weird is the inconsistent line weights of the novelties. for example, the dinosaur(?)'s lines are so much thicker than the elephant'sYes, i am working now on the novelties, be sure they will be perfect in the next update! thank you for your feedback! :thumb:
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 23 March 2021, 01:39:44
Very good idea of novelties, thank you very much, i will think about it!The new colours are much better, I still feel the novelties are not working as hard as they can for the theme you've chosen.
Origami is not only about final completed object, the instructions and process of folding is just as important. I feel the lexicon of origami, like dotted lines & curved arrows could make an appearance and give a lot more variety to the novelties than are currently on offer at the moment.
I agree on this,
with ePBT, you can have more freedom in what to print,
maybe we could have some "creases" or some kinds of folding instructions on the modifier keys? ;D
Post by: Dragonhunt on Tue, 23 March 2021, 03:10:56
It would be nice if the Nordic kit had the hiragana sublegends as well.
If you dont add them (for example to the y and z keys) it will look weird in the end.
Apart from that i really like the gray accents.
The paper colour is probably not for everyone but i think it works out in this case.
Looking forward to see how this goes.
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Post by: Nukz on Tue, 23 March 2021, 12:06:52
I like the updated colors that are part of the revamp. I am definitely interestedHappy to hear that :thumb:
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 23 March 2021, 12:07:37
Some solid changes, and even better improvements- a complete sucker for the muted accents/legends on beige look!Thank you very much! ;D
Post by: matthewdias on Tue, 23 March 2021, 12:34:29
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 23 March 2021, 12:37:59
New colors looking great. Can you please add a 40's kit? Not much reason not to for ePBT.thank you very much, i will consider that!
Post by: gypsyunit on Tue, 23 March 2021, 13:02:02
Post by: Vegas_ on Tue, 23 March 2021, 13:19:54
novelties are the only thing that could use some work imo (line thickness n stuff) but that's already been mentioned & sounds like it's on your list - GLWIC, i think this set has a ton of potential! :thumb:
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 23 March 2021, 13:39:55
i think this is looking awesome! the new colors are great, very tasteful & classy!Hey, thank you very much for your opinion on my set! Definitely, i am working now on the novelties, to make them perfect!
novelties are the only thing that could use some work imo (line thickness n stuff) but that's already been mentioned & sounds like it's on your list - GLWIC, i think this set has a ton of potential! :thumb:
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 23 March 2021, 15:52:39
I heard that ePbt's MoQ setup was that, if base kit hits MoQ, then all kits will be made, is that right?I will consider that :thumb:
May I request a Colevrak kit please? Pretty please?
Post by: kaysoo1337 on Tue, 23 March 2021, 16:41:46
Post by: CookieFlow on Tue, 23 March 2021, 20:13:31
I love the shade of Grey used and it works super well againt the off-white of the alphas.
-I would be curious to see renders with a slighly different/darker shade of cream for the mods to have a ever so slightly more pronounced contrast.
(but maybe irl these colors will work out perfectly, but just on the renders I feel the 2 shades of off-white/cream of the alphas/mods are slightly too close).
-Same as others, I feel the novelties could be better.
It's totally personal preferences, but I am not a huge fan of some of the animals chosen. They feel a bit too random? (I like the giraffe and maybe one of those birds)
I am not an origami specialist but I feel probably the most popular Origami is the crane, but you don't have one? What about non-animal novelties? For example I like the geometric/abstract shapes you often see in Origami.
-Consider adding Alice support in base kit, since the spacebars kit only has accent split bars.
-I'd like to see a Rama. I feel there is something pretty awesome to be done with the Origami theme. Maybe the missing Crane that I mentioned before?
Post by: HappyB0T on Wed, 24 March 2021, 10:23:00
In general the set looks close but I agree with some of the others that something is missing. The struggle is to have representation of:
1. What people think origami is
2. What origami represents as a tradition.
I feel like this set is #1. Nothing wrong with this but it is my take.
The style of the novelties is great but finding a balance of what makes the cut will be hard.
If you focus more on #2 I think this set will do drastically better. Best of luck with this IC!
Post by: mariachiforhire on Wed, 24 March 2021, 12:06:25
If you could add a taint of red to the novelty set, it would make it stand out.
Like this:
https://image.api.playstation.com/vulcan/img/rnd/202011/0518/rfaNTagTT8uQV0YfxNNLbzr0.png
Post by: Nukz on Wed, 24 March 2021, 12:31:09
This is pretty awesome :thumb:I really appreciate your feedback, thank you very much, i will consider all of the things you wrote me in this comment. About the crane, i have it in novelties kit since i first posted the IC, maybe it was just a misunderstanding! :thumb:
I love the shade of Grey used and it works super well againt the off-white of the alphas.
-I would be curious to see renders with a slighly different/darker shade of cream for the mods to have a ever so slightly more pronounced contrast.
(but maybe irl these colors will work out perfectly, but just on the renders I feel the 2 shades of off-white/cream of the alphas/mods are slightly too close).
-Same as others, I feel the novelties could be better.
It's totally personal preferences, but I am not a huge fan of some of the animals chosen. They feel a bit too random? (I like the giraffe and maybe one of those birds)
I am not an origami specialist but I feel probably the most popular Origami is the crane, but you don't have one? What about non-animal novelties? For example I like the geometric/abstract shapes you often see in Origami.
-Consider adding Alice support in base kit, since the spacebars kit only has accent split bars.
-I'd like to see a Rama. I feel there is something pretty awesome to be done with the Origami theme. Maybe the missing Crane that I mentioned before?
Post by: unixb0y on Wed, 24 March 2021, 12:53:33
And I would also support the common complaint that the novelties are still not perfect, especially in terms of the motives. Big crane e.g. on enter is a must (I don't recall dinosaurs being a popular motive) and generally more typical / classic origamis would be great. I love the idea of folding instructions and the dotted lines etc., would really like to see what you could come up with in that regard!
GLWIC really looking forward to the next iterations!
Post by: Xanira on Wed, 24 March 2021, 13:42:15
Post by: CookieFlow on Wed, 24 March 2021, 13:57:37
This is pretty awesome :thumb:I really appreciate your feedback, thank you very much, i will consider all of the things you wrote me in this comment. About the crane, i have it in novelties kit since i first posted the IC, maybe it was just a misunderstanding! :thumb:
I love the shade of Grey used and it works super well againt the off-white of the alphas.
-I would be curious to see renders with a slighly different/darker shade of cream for the mods to have a ever so slightly more pronounced contrast.
(but maybe irl these colors will work out perfectly, but just on the renders I feel the 2 shades of off-white/cream of the alphas/mods are slightly too close).
-Same as others, I feel the novelties could be better.
It's totally personal preferences, but I am not a huge fan of some of the animals chosen. They feel a bit too random? (I like the giraffe and maybe one of those birds)
I am not an origami specialist but I feel probably the most popular Origami is the crane, but you don't have one? What about non-animal novelties? For example I like the geometric/abstract shapes you often see in Origami.
-Consider adding Alice support in base kit, since the spacebars kit only has accent split bars.
-I'd like to see a Rama. I feel there is something pretty awesome to be done with the Origami theme. Maybe the missing Crane that I mentioned before?
Thanks for taking my feedback into consideration.
Personally I never saw the crane, and felt it was just a random bird (and looking at other peoples reaction in the discord, that was also the general concensus nobody knew it was a crane).
So I really feel you should rework the shape to be the classic Origami Crane shape.
Same with other novelties, everybody thought the last one was a dog, which apparently it is not?
Post by: salgiza on Wed, 24 March 2021, 17:54:42
https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/kam-superuser-int-south_3259/
Pretty please? I’d love to buy this set, but I’ve gotten a bit lazy over the years, and I would prefer having a keyboard whose labels match the letters that will appear when I type!
Post by: Trivent on Wed, 24 March 2021, 18:21:13
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Wed, 24 March 2021, 19:41:59
Post by: Nukz on Thu, 25 March 2021, 01:56:25
Wow I'm a huge fan of this. Great job!Thank you very much, loop! :thumb:
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Thu, 25 March 2021, 01:58:10
Your response to the feedback is commendable and a masterclass. Love the rework and this is definitely a set I'm interested if not only for just the noveltiesWow I'm a huge fan of this. Great job!Thank you very much, loop! :thumb:
Post by: fromscratchusa on Thu, 25 March 2021, 02:02:03
I wish you best of luck with the IC :)
Post by: Mr Chrome on Thu, 25 March 2021, 11:22:24
Post by: growler on Thu, 25 March 2021, 16:48:42
Post by: unixb0y on Thu, 25 March 2021, 21:39:35
The cream/gray combo works well! I'm not too sold on the mods color, though. I think it's too much of a saturated yellow to match with the unsaturated gray. Then again, I might just be scarred from the memory of ABS yellowing...
Yeah I would actually love to see how a more typical Origami colour would look, it would probably pop really nicely like, well, Origami papers do, which have one side cream-y and one side e.g. bold bright blue. At least traditionally. Apparently now you can get also with both sides coloured, but from my memory that's not the 'original' version.
Post by: Tarey on Thu, 25 March 2021, 21:53:10
Post by: Nukz on Fri, 26 March 2021, 14:50:00
I'm liking thisI appreciate your feedback!
Post by: milka158 on Sat, 27 March 2021, 10:06:33
I tend to point this out alot:
It would be nice if the Nordic kit had the hiragana sublegends as well.
If you dont add them (for example to the y and z keys) it will look weird in the end.
Apart from that i really like the gray accents.
The paper colour is probably not for everyone but i think it works out in this case.
Looking forward to see how this goes.
Post by: unixb0y on Sat, 27 March 2021, 12:31:53
I would love to see the NorDe Kit having sublegends as well. Otherwise you are forced to buy Latin Kit as well. Having some keys without a sublegend would look pretty weird as Dragonhunt pointed out before.
Alternatively, it would be cool to have the option of getting the base kit with all latin legends. I understand the sublegends since the theme is Origami which originated in China or Japan iirc. But unfortunately it always comes off as "weeb-y" so I personally don't particularly enjoy the look of sublegends. Maybe it would be better if it was just Hiragana legends or just Latin legends.
Post by: SDKCAMPING on Sat, 27 March 2021, 14:39:25
Post by: Nukz on Mon, 29 March 2021, 08:45:49
I see that u have given yourself the title of Graphic Designer, I think that the set could be a lot better if u took the time to design the novelties for the set yourself. I agree with the others that the novelties need work, downloading the icons seems like a cheap and easy way to just put something together to get the set done. hope to see your design skill shine in the desk mats! glwicDeskmat coming soon, i am 100% sure you'll like it! ;D
Post by: milka158 on Mon, 29 March 2021, 13:42:12
Maybe it would be better if it was just Hiragana legends or just Latin legends.
This.
Post by: Mr Chrome on Mon, 29 March 2021, 19:19:07
Alternatively, it would be cool to have the option of getting the base kit with all latin legends. I understand the sublegends since the theme is Origami which originated in China or Japan iirc. But unfortunately it always comes off as "weeb-y" so I personally don't particularly enjoy the look of sublegends. Maybe it would be better if it was just Hiragana legends or just Latin legends.
Yeah, I definitely prefer Latin alphas and how they work with the NorDe kit, but I suppose that would depend on MOQ for another base kit?
Is there any chance of adding an LED window capslock/stepped capslock as well? I know ePBT has them in sets like Kon Momo. It's just so hard to find a PBT set with one, I'd love to see it at least in the icon kit :S
(https://i.imgur.com/L4NUGXM.jpg)
Post by: unixb0y on Tue, 30 March 2021, 11:31:08
Yeah, I definitely prefer Latin alphas and how they work with the NorDe kit, but I suppose that would depend on MOQ for another base kit?
On ePBT, if one set reaches MOQ, you're good, all will be produced.
Post by: ManoliVisuals on Tue, 30 March 2021, 11:58:52
Post by: pdlif on Tue, 30 March 2021, 12:28:38
Post by: kaysoo1337 on Tue, 30 March 2021, 12:30:31
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 30 March 2021, 13:20:24
Love the revised look! This is it! :thumb:thank you very much!
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 30 March 2021, 14:25:19
Very clean colorsThank you very much!
Post by: FishyKeebs on Tue, 30 March 2021, 21:04:59
Post by: milka158 on Wed, 31 March 2021, 05:08:47
Post by: Nukz on Wed, 31 March 2021, 14:49:53
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I looked where you bought the novelty icons from and it says that you can't use them on products?As of now, I've only bought 1x of each icon used from The Noun Project that means i can manufacture up to 100 novelty kits , regarding the sale hasn't started. If I decide to move on with these novelties, and we get sales, profit margins will go towards paying for the icons used!
Post by: Nukz on Thu, 01 April 2021, 00:10:52
Miss the old colors :(Looks better now! :D
Post by: highdocc on Thu, 01 April 2021, 01:07:28
Post by: thicthock on Thu, 01 April 2021, 02:38:57
Especially the greyish blue!
Post by: Nukz on Thu, 01 April 2021, 12:29:24
ooooh love the color combo!Thank you very much!
Especially the greyish blue!
Post by: Nukz on Sat, 03 April 2021, 12:50:41
The set looks really great!thank you dude!
Post by: Bub on Mon, 05 April 2021, 13:43:50
Post by: Nukz on Mon, 05 April 2021, 16:07:04
i LOVE that 901 render, well done.thank you :blank:
Post by: mvkoto on Mon, 05 April 2021, 20:28:35
Post by: bigjohn on Thu, 08 April 2021, 11:26:36
Post by: Nukz on Thu, 08 April 2021, 12:54:46
those metal keycaps are legit nicethank you very much!
Post by: Arcoril on Thu, 08 April 2021, 18:33:43
Post by: tsakuyo on Fri, 09 April 2021, 13:58:37
However, I still feel like it needs a bit of polishing in order for me to put my money on this set. Mainly because of the missing Hiragana sublegends on the NorDeUk kit. I quickly put together a Swedish layout from screen grabs and while not completely annoying, it still looks a bit off with sublegends on some keys and not on others (check out the lonely sublegend on the 1 up in the numbers row ;D)
Maybe there's something you can do about it?
Thanks for all your work so far! :thumb:
(https://i.imgur.com/BFenI1p.png)
Post by: rkg on Sat, 10 April 2021, 22:11:18
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 13 April 2021, 13:45:19
ooo likie the colorsthank you very much!
Post by: AASH on Tue, 13 April 2021, 14:41:22
Post by: milka158 on Wed, 14 April 2021, 03:03:44
Post by: jagger27 on Wed, 14 April 2021, 04:56:39
Also the novelties render has the wrong sizes on some keys. 1.75U should be 1.5U.
Nice theme overall. Love the subs.
Post by: Nukz on Wed, 14 April 2021, 05:36:23
What are the exact colors (color codes) you're aiming for?i will announce the colors soon!
Post by: Nukz on Wed, 14 April 2021, 05:37:14
Please stop putting diamonds next to Apple-style mods, thanks. Ne 1.5U supers in base?im sorry, wdym diamonds? thank you for pointing out about the sizes :thumb:
Also the novelties render has the wrong sizes on some keys. 1.75U should be 1.5U.
Nice theme overall. Love the subs.
Post by: RoyalOak88 on Wed, 14 April 2021, 05:52:16
I really, really, like how these keycaps are shaping up. So much, in fact, that I’ve finally decided to register in the forum just to ask if it would be possible to add an Int-south kit for south European keyboards (Italy, Spain, Portugal, not sure if any other countries are included), such as the one here:
https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/kam-superuser-int-south_3259/
Pretty please? I’d love to buy this set, but I’ve gotten a bit lazy over the years, and I would prefer having a keyboard whose labels match the letters that will appear when I type!
+1
Post by: salgiza on Wed, 14 April 2021, 11:35:31
Please stop putting diamonds next to Apple-style mods, thanks. Ne 1.5U supers in base?im sorry, wdym diamonds? thank you for pointing out about the sizes :thumb:
Also the novelties render has the wrong sizes on some keys. 1.75U should be 1.5U.
Nice theme overall. Love the subs.
I think that jagger27 is referring to the keycaps, in the macOS kit, with diamond shapes. I have a mac and I don’t know what they are, either (though I’ve seen them in other keycap GBs). They seem to be there in place of the mac command key/icon (⌘), as seen here: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/samples/apple-wireless.json , although I guess that the ^ keycaps (not found in a mac keyboard either) could be used instead (I would go with the diamonds, though).
So we have twice the keycaps (^, diamond) instead of the cmd/⌘ ones that would usually be included in a Mac kit.
Post by: jagger27 on Wed, 14 April 2021, 12:55:33
im sorry, wdym diamonds? thank you for pointing out about the sizes :thumb:
(https://i.imgur.com/Tn1oiT7.png)
These things
I think that jagger27 is referring to the keycaps, in the macOS kit, with diamond shapes. I have a mac and I don’t know what they are, either (though I’ve seen them in other keycap GBs). They seem to be there in place of the mac command key/icon (⌘), as seen here: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/samples/apple-wireless.json , although I guess that the ^ keycaps (not found in a mac keyboard either) could be used instead (I would go with the diamonds, though).
So we have twice the keycaps (^, diamond) instead of the cmd/⌘ ones that would usually be included in a Mac kit.
Nah ^ is Control.
(https://i.imgur.com/nHgOsFV.jpg)
Post by: Nukz on Wed, 14 April 2021, 13:01:15
im sorry, wdym diamonds? thank you for pointing out about the sizes :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Tn1oiT7.png)
These thingsI think that jagger27 is referring to the keycaps, in the macOS kit, with diamond shapes. I have a mac and I don’t know what they are, either (though I’ve seen them in other keycap GBs). They seem to be there in place of the mac command key/icon (⌘), as seen here: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/samples/apple-wireless.json , although I guess that the ^ keycaps (not found in a mac keyboard either) could be used instead (I would go with the diamonds, though).
So we have twice the keycaps (^, diamond) instead of the cmd/⌘ ones that would usually be included in a Mac kit.
Nah ^ is Control.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nHgOsFV.jpg)
ohhhh ;D
Post by: salgiza on Wed, 14 April 2021, 15:02:08
Nah ^ is Control.
Oooh! Lol, I think I might need to go to the optician :confused:
Post by: CookieFlow on Sat, 17 April 2021, 16:23:34
You either have to buy the Fourties Kit or forced into accent spacebars.
Really wish base kit would have included 2-3 split spacebars in the alphas colors.
Post by: Nukz on Sun, 18 April 2021, 03:58:59
I still find kitting a bit strange for Alice users.2c and 3u?
You either have to buy the Fourties Kit or forced into accent spacebars.
Really wish base kit would have included 2-3 split spacebars in the alphas colors.
Post by: L4ll1g470r on Sun, 18 April 2021, 05:05:41
Edit: also looks like the international kitting is a bit wrong, should be , ; and . :, not ; : and . :
Post by: thicthock on Mon, 19 April 2021, 02:18:01
What are the exact colors (color codes) you're aiming for?i will announce the colors soon!
I love the grey but would also absolutely go for what I saw in it first: a bluish grey. I think this set really screams for color novelties in different colors
Post by: Shoe17 on Mon, 19 April 2021, 14:04:13
What are the exact colors (color codes) you're aiming for?i will announce the colors soon!
I love the grey but would also absolutely go for what I saw in it first: a bluish grey. I think this set really screams for color novelties in different colors
I agree with this that I liked the bluish grey more than just the grey
Post by: c0d3r on Mon, 19 April 2021, 14:53:26
Post by: PeppyToad on Tue, 20 April 2021, 07:56:53
I have two nitpicks:
1. 1.25u text "Control" is centered, but it should be left-aligned.
2. 1.25u Enter in the 40s kit has too big of an arrow. It looks disproportionate relative to the other modifier icons. Could you resize and realign the icon?
Thank you! Looking forward to this set.
Post by: saltimate on Wed, 21 April 2021, 06:47:07
uuuuh any chance of separating at least one of the alphas sets from a "base kit", not keen on buying a bunch of useless normie mods just so i can have the alphas for my 40s....
i know its not that popular but if you want to turn me on personally add another 2.25u bar to the 40s
Post by: bobtheguitar on Wed, 21 April 2021, 10:29:16
Show Image(https://imgur.com/91WZvVE.png)
Is that... R2 Shift and R2 Stepped Shift in the Modern kit? What for? Or are they supposed to be Caps Locks? But then those are both in the base kits, so why have them again in the Modern? Or is the stepped one supposed to be stepped Control (^)?
Forgive me if I'm being stupid!
Post by: XiXora on Fri, 23 April 2021, 07:01:40
However, I think I see a kitting error in the International kit.
The R1 >< key is duplicated from the Base kit. Is this supposed to be a UK ISO R1 |\ Key?
Post by: nvh2092 on Fri, 23 April 2021, 07:24:27
This is a nice kit.Yeah, the international kit lacks a R1 pipe key for iso uk and at the same time contains a redundant key that already existed in base.
However, I think I see a kitting error in the International kit.
The R1 >< key is duplicated from the Base kit. Is this supposed to be a UK ISO R1 |\ Key?
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 27 April 2021, 03:41:10
resolved!This is a nice kit.Yeah, the international kit lacks a R1 pipe key for iso uk and at the same time contains a redundant key that already existed in base.
However, I think I see a kitting error in the International kit.
The R1 >< key is duplicated from the Base kit. Is this supposed to be a UK ISO R1 |\ Key?
Post by: XiXora on Tue, 27 April 2021, 06:35:33
resolved!
Excellent. Better than being told a week after the GB ended that it was resolved… 😂
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 27 April 2021, 12:14:36
lol, who did that haha?resolved!
Excellent. Better than being told a week after the GB ended that it was resolved… 😂
Post by: bobtheguitar on Tue, 27 April 2021, 12:20:50
And I assume the lack of response to my post above means that the R2 Shift and Stepped Shift in the Modern kit are intentional—would still like to know what they’re for though!
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 27 April 2021, 12:25:25
Just noticed a typo in the title of the 40s kit: should be ‘Forties’, not ‘Fourties’.my bad for the 'Fourties' thing, about the modern kit, someone made it for me, someone helped me with all the kits!
And I assume the lack of response to my post above means that the R2 Shift and Stepped Shift in the Modern kit are intentional—would still like to know what they’re for though!
Post by: bobtheguitar on Tue, 27 April 2021, 12:33:39
Just noticed a typo in the title of the 40s kit: should be ‘Forties’, not ‘Fourties’.my bad for the 'Fourties' thing, about the international kit, someone made it for me, someone helped me with all the kits!
And I assume the lack of response to my post above means that the R2 Shift and Stepped Shift in the Modern kit are intentional—would still like to know what they’re for though!
It’s not the International kit I’m talking about, it’s the Modern (i.e. icon mods) kit. R2 Shift and Stepped Shift are in there, which I’ve never seen before and can’t fathom the purpose of. Seems likely they’re mistakes.
If I’m wrong, please someone correct me!
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 27 April 2021, 12:37:36
gmk 8008 similar Modern kitJust noticed a typo in the title of the 40s kit: should be ‘Forties’, not ‘Fourties’.my bad for the 'Fourties' thing, about the international kit, someone made it for me, someone helped me with all the kits!
And I assume the lack of response to my post above means that the R2 Shift and Stepped Shift in the Modern kit are intentional—would still like to know what they’re for though!
It’s not the International kit I’m talking about, it’s the Modern (i.e. icon mods) kit. R2 Shift and Stepped Shift are in there, which I’ve never seen before and can’t fathom the purpose of. Seems likely they’re mistakes.
If I’m wrong, please someone correct me!
(https://imgur.com/ee4BijU.png)
Post by: bobtheguitar on Tue, 27 April 2021, 12:39:48
gmk 8008 similar Modern kitJust noticed a typo in the title of the 40s kit: should be ‘Forties’, not ‘Fourties’.my bad for the 'Fourties' thing, about the international kit, someone made it for me, someone helped me with all the kits!
And I assume the lack of response to my post above means that the R2 Shift and Stepped Shift in the Modern kit are intentional—would still like to know what they’re for though!
It’s not the International kit I’m talking about, it’s the Modern (i.e. icon mods) kit. R2 Shift and Stepped Shift are in there, which I’ve never seen before and can’t fathom the purpose of. Seems likely they’re mistakes.
If I’m wrong, please someone correct me!Show Image(https://imgur.com/ee4BijU.png)
Those are Caps Locks, not Shifts. And moreover you already have Stepped and Non-Stepped Caps Lock icon keys in the base. No? (Am I going crazy?)
(For the record, I’m pro getting rid of the R2 Shift and replacing the Stepped Shift with Stepped Control (^).)
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 27 April 2021, 12:55:40
im losing my minds haha, lemme do that real quick!gmk 8008 similar Modern kitJust noticed a typo in the title of the 40s kit: should be ‘Forties’, not ‘Fourties’.my bad for the 'Fourties' thing, about the international kit, someone made it for me, someone helped me with all the kits!
And I assume the lack of response to my post above means that the R2 Shift and Stepped Shift in the Modern kit are intentional—would still like to know what they’re for though!
It’s not the International kit I’m talking about, it’s the Modern (i.e. icon mods) kit. R2 Shift and Stepped Shift are in there, which I’ve never seen before and can’t fathom the purpose of. Seems likely they’re mistakes.
If I’m wrong, please someone correct me!Show Image(https://imgur.com/ee4BijU.png)
Those are Caps Locks, not Shifts. And moreover you already have Stepped and Non-Stepped Caps Lock icon keys in the base. No? (Am I going crazy?)
(For the record, I’m pro getting rid of the R2 Shift and replacing the Stepped Shift with Stepped Control (^).)
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 27 April 2021, 12:57:30
wait, stepped control? does something like this exist? :eek:gmk 8008 similar Modern kitJust noticed a typo in the title of the 40s kit: should be ‘Forties’, not ‘Fourties’.my bad for the 'Fourties' thing, about the international kit, someone made it for me, someone helped me with all the kits!
And I assume the lack of response to my post above means that the R2 Shift and Stepped Shift in the Modern kit are intentional—would still like to know what they’re for though!
It’s not the International kit I’m talking about, it’s the Modern (i.e. icon mods) kit. R2 Shift and Stepped Shift are in there, which I’ve never seen before and can’t fathom the purpose of. Seems likely they’re mistakes.
If I’m wrong, please someone correct me!Show Image(https://imgur.com/ee4BijU.png)
Those are Caps Locks, not Shifts. And moreover you already have Stepped and Non-Stepped Caps Lock icon keys in the base. No? (Am I going crazy?)
(For the record, I’m pro getting rid of the R2 Shift and replacing the Stepped Shift with Stepped Control (^).)
Post by: bobtheguitar on Tue, 27 April 2021, 13:05:01
wait, stepped control? does something like this exist? :eek:gmk 8008 similar Modern kitJust noticed a typo in the title of the 40s kit: should be ‘Forties’, not ‘Fourties’.my bad for the 'Fourties' thing, about the international kit, someone made it for me, someone helped me with all the kits!
And I assume the lack of response to my post above means that the R2 Shift and Stepped Shift in the Modern kit are intentional—would still like to know what they’re for though!
It’s not the International kit I’m talking about, it’s the Modern (i.e. icon mods) kit. R2 Shift and Stepped Shift are in there, which I’ve never seen before and can’t fathom the purpose of. Seems likely they’re mistakes.
If I’m wrong, please someone correct me!Show Image(https://imgur.com/ee4BijU.png)
Those are Caps Locks, not Shifts. And moreover you already have Stepped and Non-Stepped Caps Lock icon keys in the base. No? (Am I going crazy?)
(For the record, I’m pro getting rid of the R2 Shift and replacing the Stepped Shift with Stepped Control (^).)
Very unusual. I think I’ve seen it as text but not as an icon before. But the reason (my reason for suggesting it, anyway) is for boards that require a stepped key (e.g. Zambumon’s Sar).
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 27 April 2021, 13:07:08
hmmmm, what should i remove/change?wait, stepped control? does something like this exist? :eek:gmk 8008 similar Modern kitJust noticed a typo in the title of the 40s kit: should be ‘Forties’, not ‘Fourties’.my bad for the 'Fourties' thing, about the international kit, someone made it for me, someone helped me with all the kits!
And I assume the lack of response to my post above means that the R2 Shift and Stepped Shift in the Modern kit are intentional—would still like to know what they’re for though!
It’s not the International kit I’m talking about, it’s the Modern (i.e. icon mods) kit. R2 Shift and Stepped Shift are in there, which I’ve never seen before and can’t fathom the purpose of. Seems likely they’re mistakes.
If I’m wrong, please someone correct me!Show Image(https://imgur.com/ee4BijU.png)
Those are Caps Locks, not Shifts. And moreover you already have Stepped and Non-Stepped Caps Lock icon keys in the base. No? (Am I going crazy?)
(For the record, I’m pro getting rid of the R2 Shift and replacing the Stepped Shift with Stepped Control (^).)
Very unusual. I think I’ve seen it as text but not as an icon before. But the reason would be for boards that require a stepped key (e.g. Zambumon’s Sar).
Post by: bobtheguitar on Tue, 27 April 2021, 13:10:45
hmmmm, what should i remove/change?wait, stepped control? does something like this exist? :eek:gmk 8008 similar Modern kitJust noticed a typo in the title of the 40s kit: should be ‘Forties’, not ‘Fourties’.my bad for the 'Fourties' thing, about the international kit, someone made it for me, someone helped me with all the kits!
And I assume the lack of response to my post above means that the R2 Shift and Stepped Shift in the Modern kit are intentional—would still like to know what they’re for though!
It’s not the International kit I’m talking about, it’s the Modern (i.e. icon mods) kit. R2 Shift and Stepped Shift are in there, which I’ve never seen before and can’t fathom the purpose of. Seems likely they’re mistakes.
If I’m wrong, please someone correct me!Show Image(https://imgur.com/ee4BijU.png)
Those are Caps Locks, not Shifts. And moreover you already have Stepped and Non-Stepped Caps Lock icon keys in the base. No? (Am I going crazy?)
(For the record, I’m pro getting rid of the R2 Shift and replacing the Stepped Shift with Stepped Control (^).)
Very unusual. I think I’ve seen it as text but not as an icon before. But the reason would be for boards that require a stepped key (e.g. Zambumon’s Sar).
Well IMO remove the R2 Shift and either change the stepped key to stepped Control (if you’re feeling adventurous) or remove it (if not.)
But perhaps consult someone more knowledgable than me, too!
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 27 April 2021, 13:16:12
https://imgur.com/HaoCpgj :rolleyes:hmmmm, what should i remove/change?wait, stepped control? does something like this exist? :eek:gmk 8008 similar Modern kitJust noticed a typo in the title of the 40s kit: should be ‘Forties’, not ‘Fourties’.my bad for the 'Fourties' thing, about the international kit, someone made it for me, someone helped me with all the kits!
And I assume the lack of response to my post above means that the R2 Shift and Stepped Shift in the Modern kit are intentional—would still like to know what they’re for though!
It’s not the International kit I’m talking about, it’s the Modern (i.e. icon mods) kit. R2 Shift and Stepped Shift are in there, which I’ve never seen before and can’t fathom the purpose of. Seems likely they’re mistakes.
If I’m wrong, please someone correct me!Show Image(https://imgur.com/ee4BijU.png)
Those are Caps Locks, not Shifts. And moreover you already have Stepped and Non-Stepped Caps Lock icon keys in the base. No? (Am I going crazy?)
(For the record, I’m pro getting rid of the R2 Shift and replacing the Stepped Shift with Stepped Control (^).)
Very unusual. I think I’ve seen it as text but not as an icon before. But the reason would be for boards that require a stepped key (e.g. Zambumon’s Sar).
Well IMO remove the R2 Shift and either change the stepped key to stepped Control (if you’re feeling adventurous) or remove it (if not.)
But perhaps consult someone more knowledgable than me, too!
Post by: XiXora on Tue, 27 April 2021, 13:36:11
Whilst were changing that kit, it'll need two 1.5U control (^), and two 1u alts (⎇) for 7U Mac/HHKB.
I'm usually asking for the Supers… not the other way around 🤣
Post by: azzipa on Sun, 02 May 2021, 22:06:14
What are the exact colors (color codes) you're aiming for?
weeb umka?
I know I’m late, but this absolutely screams for a unicorn novelty...
gaff (and deckard) would approve
Please stop putting diamonds next to Apple-style mods, thanks. Ne 1.5U supers in base?
i'm guessing this is too late since GB starts in less than 3 weeks, but 1.5 supers and 1u alts would be great for us mac users who also don't like using the incorrect/stupid/non-mac icons.
Post by: Nukz on Sat, 08 May 2021, 14:44:35
Post by: mvkoto on Sun, 09 May 2021, 01:58:01
Post by: prognostics on Sun, 09 May 2021, 09:09:14
I feel that every update was a solid improvement over the previous iteration, I will be following anything else you release through your discord.
Post by: CookieFlow on Sun, 09 May 2021, 11:33:43
Happy to you see listening to feedback and that alice support got added in basekit :thumb:
Post by: Izeri on Tue, 11 May 2021, 03:21:32
Post by: tsakuyo on Tue, 11 May 2021, 05:24:18
It would be absolutely fantastic if the novelties had the same line thickness.
I know you bought them from thenounproject, so I can imagine that you just had to take what's available.
Have you tried to match them already? Or is it not a concern to you?
Either way, if I can offer my help, I would gladly rework these icons to match each other.
Nothing fancy, just the line thickness.
Good job otherwise! And great pricing.
I really like the set, the colors, the monokei, the deskmat. It's just the line thickness ;D.
Post by: XiXora on Tue, 11 May 2021, 07:48:44
Post by: Nukz on Tue, 11 May 2021, 14:17:24
What's the MOQ?100 for both base kits
Post by: tr0oper on Wed, 12 May 2021, 08:14:04
I’m looking at the base set, and it seems to be missing an R2 home button. This is mandatory, and I won’t even consider such a large base set with so many keys if it is missing R2 home. It also strangely seems to have 2x R3 pgUp and 2x R2 pgDn. Is this a mistake?
User DotMatrix had made some great observations in a much earlier post. I agree with all the points there. I can see you have obviously addressed some of the issues raised.
Looking at the early posts from others, it appears a previous version of this set had a paper plane? This immediately tells me that little to no thought and research has been done on the theme, and gives me the feeling the extent of the effort extended only as far as searching for ‘origami’ on the noun project and randomly selecting good looking ones.
Origami has both a historical, traditional and cultural significance in Japan, as well as many modern artists from all over the world. Look up Robert J. Lang and google image, he is from your State. After that you could check out John Montroll, or Gonzalo Garcia Calvo, and so many more. I have to mention Akira Yoshizawa (RIP) the father of modern origami. I would expect an oragimi themed key set to acknowledge and pay respects to the lifelong contributions of such masters.
For a set with this specific theme, to me it would be all about the novelties. The current set is not there in my opinion. For a well crafted set of ‘origami novelties’ I would happily pay double of what the current one is priced at, but I would like to see a few more keys so I have options with my customisation. The R4 novelties have the right idea. If I want to use one of those R4 keys as my esc, I have choices. I can chose from 3 images, and I can have each in either light or dark. This is not the case for the R1 keys, which I find somewhat lacking. I would like to see dark versions of these keys. I also want to see the 1.5 icon on the 1.25, and vice versa. Also, the R3 1.5 buttons, they are exactly the same. Maybe on in dark? I know every combination would be asking too much, but maybe something more that what there currently is?
Maybe I’m nuts, but I’d be happy to even buy multiple different sets of novelties. Origami is a broad enough topic that you could develop multiple origami sub-themes into their own novelty set (keys where the model is specific to an artist, keys where the logo is origami diagram instruction symbols, keys depicting the relationship of origami to mathematics, keys showing origami applied in engineering etc.). This is where I see the bulk of the “work” going into designing for such a theme.
Having said all that, when the GB opens, I will probably pick up the novelties anyway, because it’s origami on keycaps! If I thought they were spectacular however, then I’d be picking up the ‘complete’ set.
I must however admit that I love the mat. It’s everything I want, and I’ll 100% be picking that up! (Maybe even 2)
I will also say that colours are something that look great to me. I would absolutely love this set if it had awesome origami novelties.
Overall, I am disappointed, I feel this set could be so much more.
This is the first time I am going to participate in a GB. Good luck with it, I’ll be picking up something at least.
Post by: IRLRaptor on Wed, 12 May 2021, 08:17:55
Post by: dvdrl on Wed, 12 May 2021, 10:37:49
Post by: Lazesummerstone on Wed, 12 May 2021, 15:32:53
I bought my first videogame console by folding tiny origami cranes and making them into earrings which I sold at Xmas. This set kinda resonates with me!
Post by: CookieFlow on Wed, 12 May 2021, 20:58:11
They do feel pretty lazy, I understand they were bought directly and not designed by yourself.
But at least reworking them with the same line thickness seems like the minimum to do.
Granted I have very little knowledge in Origami, but I still find the ones you choose to be very odd choices, besides a few.
I support the idea of having 2 novelties kit.
This could be an animal novelties kit, but as some people (and I also early in the IC) pointed out there are many more shapes and concepts in Origami than animals.
I would have really like to see a kit with things like Origami flowers, geometrical shapes etc.
Post by: Arcoril on Wed, 12 May 2021, 21:22:16
It also strangely seems to have 2x R3 pgUp and 2x R2 pgDn. Is this a mistake?
Good find. Can we get confirmation that this will be fixed for the GB?
Post by: Convergence on Thu, 13 May 2021, 05:00:30
Post by: Nukz on Thu, 13 May 2021, 13:41:14
resolved
I’m looking at the base set, and it seems to be missing an R2 home button. This is mandatory, and I won’t even consider such a large base set with so many keys if it is missing R2 home. It also strangely seems to have 2x R3 pgUp and 2x R2 pgDn. Is this a mistake
Post by: Nukz on Thu, 13 May 2021, 13:44:11
I still wish the novelties were reworked.working at the lines thickness atm, coming soon
They do feel pretty lazy, I understand they were bought directly and not designed by yourself.
But at least reworking them with the same line thickness seems like the minimum to do.
Granted I have very little knowledge in Origami, but I still find the ones you choose to be very odd choices, besides a few.
I support the idea of having 2 novelties kit.
This could be an animal novelties kit, but as some people (and I also early in the IC) pointed out there are many more shapes and concepts in Origami than animals.
I would have really like to see a kit with things like Origami flowers, geometrical shapes etc.
Post by: Nukz on Thu, 13 May 2021, 13:58:01
Any word on the missing keys in the Modern kit yet? :)modern kit updated!
Post by: azzipa on Thu, 13 May 2021, 19:49:11
Any word on the missing keys in the Modern kit yet? :)modern kit updated!
ok, bottom row now has two 1.5u diamonds (even though diamonds suck) but even with base there is only one 1u alt. i’ve looked at this set for weeks trying to talk myself into it. i love pbt and i love the colors. but the kitting is scuffed. so i will again fade into the background. glwgb!
Post by: tr0oper on Sat, 15 May 2021, 06:00:30
resolved
I’m looking at the base set, and it seems to be missing an R2 home button. This is mandatory, and I won’t even consider such a large base set with so many keys if it is missing R2 home. It also strangely seems to have 2x R3 pgUp and 2x R2 pgDn. Is this a mistake
The R2 home button is still missing. If this is fixed, I will be picking up this set.
Good job resolving issue with pgUp pgDn
Post by: dvdrl on Sat, 15 May 2021, 12:32:02
Not sure whether the kit renders haven’t been updated yet, but the International kit is still missing a “, ;” key. It’s necessary to complete German layout support.
I am going to repeat it: the international kit as pictured is flawed.
I only managed to find one layouts using a “; :” key on R1: Brazilian.
Many other layouts require a “, ;” key on R1 that this kit is still missing. Specifically ones that otherwise seem to be supported by the set: German, Swedish, Danish, Norway, maybe more.
Please fix this.
Post by: TyPo.mk on Sat, 15 May 2021, 14:18:48
resolved
I’m looking at the base set, and it seems to be missing an R2 home button. This is mandatory, and I won’t even consider such a large base set with so many keys if it is missing R2 home. It also strangely seems to have 2x R3 pgUp and 2x R2 pgDn. Is this a mistake
The R2 home button is still missing. If this is fixed, I will be picking up this set.
Good job resolving issue with pgUp pgDn
Why is R2 home “mandatory”
There’s plenty of physical coverage for a 65% macro column and delete pg up, pg down, fn is more common
Post by: tsakuyo on Sat, 15 May 2021, 14:45:34
I am going to repeat it: the international kit as pictured is flawed.
I only managed to find one layouts using a “; :” key on R1: Brazilian.
Many other layouts require a “, ;” key on R1 that this kit is still missing. Specifically ones that otherwise seem to be supported by the set: German, Swedish, Danish, Norway, maybe more.
Please fix this.
I agree, this needs to be fixed. Just looked down on my keyboard and there is a ", ;" key. Thanks for pointing this out.
Post by: tr0oper on Sun, 16 May 2021, 08:40:58
Why is R2 home “mandatory”I have a Keychron K2 (https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-hot-swappable-wireless-mechanical-keyboard), it’s a 75%. It’s navigation column is R4 pgUp, R3 pgDn, R2 home, R1 end. (Note that the renders for this set have numbered the rows bottom to top, which I this is not the norm. Using the standard numbering, its a R3 home, but I’ll stick to using the row numbers as rendered.
There’s plenty of physical coverage for a 65% macro column and delete pg up, pg down, fn is more common
In terms of it being mandatory, what I intended to convey was that it must have a 1u R2 home button in order for me to consider buying it.
I do acknowledge that having a home key on the same row as the ANSI enter key seems to not really be a thing. None of the other sets seems to have it either.
Perhaps what I would like to see is a move by set designers towards supporting the Keychron K2 boards, which would only require the addition of a R2 home key.
Post by: TyPo.mk on Sun, 16 May 2021, 12:30:10
Why is R2 home “mandatory”I have a Keychron K2 (https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-hot-swappable-wireless-mechanical-keyboard), it’s a 75%. It’s navigation column is R4 pgUp, R3 pgDn, R2 home, R1 end. (Note that the renders for this set have numbered the rows bottom to top, which I this is not the norm. Using the standard numbering, its a R3 home, but I’ll stick to using the row numbers as rendered.
There’s plenty of physical coverage for a 65% macro column and delete pg up, pg down, fn is more common
In terms of it being mandatory, what I intended to convey was that it must have a 1u R2 home button in order for me to consider buying it.
I do acknowledge that having a home key on the same row as the ANSI enter key seems to not really be a thing. None of the other sets seems to have it either.
Perhaps what I would like to see is a move by set designers towards supporting the Keychron K2 boards, which would only require the addition of a R2 home key.
Ah gotcha, fwiw if you really want this keycap set (or many others) it would still physically cover your board, some of your legends on that macro column might just be off. It’s not ideal but you might have to get used it unless that layout becomes super popular. Also the bottom to top row numbering is how epbt officially numbers rows which explains why they’re in that direction if you are used to GMK kitting. Keyreative (kat/kam) also numbers rows this way iirc.
Post by: Nukz on Sun, 16 May 2021, 13:01:42
^Why is R2 home “mandatory”I have a Keychron K2 (https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-hot-swappable-wireless-mechanical-keyboard), it’s a 75%. It’s navigation column is R4 pgUp, R3 pgDn, R2 home, R1 end. (Note that the renders for this set have numbered the rows bottom to top, which I this is not the norm. Using the standard numbering, its a R3 home, but I’ll stick to using the row numbers as rendered.
There’s plenty of physical coverage for a 65% macro column and delete pg up, pg down, fn is more common
In terms of it being mandatory, what I intended to convey was that it must have a 1u R2 home button in order for me to consider buying it.
I do acknowledge that having a home key on the same row as the ANSI enter key seems to not really be a thing. None of the other sets seems to have it either.
Perhaps what I would like to see is a move by set designers towards supporting the Keychron K2 boards, which would only require the addition of a R2 home key.
Ah gotcha, fwiw if you really want this keycap set (or many others) it would still physically cover your board, some of your legends on that macro column might just be off. It’s not idea but you might have to get used it unless that layout becomes super popular. Also the bottom to top row numbering is how epbt officially numbers rows which explains why they’re in that direction if you are used to GMK kitting. Keyreative (kat/kam) also numbers rows this way iirc.
Post by: tr0oper on Mon, 17 May 2021, 06:38:21
Why is R2 home “mandatory”I have a Keychron K2 (https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-hot-swappable-wireless-mechanical-keyboard), it’s a 75%. It’s navigation column is R4 pgUp, R3 pgDn, R2 home, R1 end. (Note that the renders for this set have numbered the rows bottom to top, which I this is not the norm. Using the standard numbering, its a R3 home, but I’ll stick to using the row numbers as rendered.
There’s plenty of physical coverage for a 65% macro column and delete pg up, pg down, fn is more common
In terms of it being mandatory, what I intended to convey was that it must have a 1u R2 home button in order for me to consider buying it.
I do acknowledge that having a home key on the same row as the ANSI enter key seems to not really be a thing. None of the other sets seems to have it either.
Perhaps what I would like to see is a move by set designers towards supporting the Keychron K2 boards, which would only require the addition of a R2 home key.
Ah gotcha, fwiw if you really want this keycap set (or many others) it would still physically cover your board, some of your legends on that macro column might just be off. It’s not ideal but you might have to get used it unless that layout becomes super popular. Also the bottom to top row numbering is how epbt officially numbers rows which explains why they’re in that direction if you are used to GMK kitting. Keyreative (kat/kam) also numbers rows this way iirc.
Thank you for that info about the different numbering between GMK and ePbt, I’ll watch for that detail from now on.
In this kit the possible keys I could use to cover it are only the homing F and J, the \ |, pgUp and PgDn. That’s it. As you say, not ideal. My hope would be a 1u novelty, but that doesn’t seem to be a thing either.
Post by: Nukz on Mon, 17 May 2021, 07:33:42
here ya go, r2 1u noveltyWhy is R2 home “mandatory”I have a Keychron K2 (https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-hot-swappable-wireless-mechanical-keyboard), it’s a 75%. It’s navigation column is R4 pgUp, R3 pgDn, R2 home, R1 end. (Note that the renders for this set have numbered the rows bottom to top, which I this is not the norm. Using the standard numbering, its a R3 home, but I’ll stick to using the row numbers as rendered.
There’s plenty of physical coverage for a 65% macro column and delete pg up, pg down, fn is more common
In terms of it being mandatory, what I intended to convey was that it must have a 1u R2 home button in order for me to consider buying it.
I do acknowledge that having a home key on the same row as the ANSI enter key seems to not really be a thing. None of the other sets seems to have it either.
Perhaps what I would like to see is a move by set designers towards supporting the Keychron K2 boards, which would only require the addition of a R2 home key.
Ah gotcha, fwiw if you really want this keycap set (or many others) it would still physically cover your board, some of your legends on that macro column might just be off. It’s not ideal but you might have to get used it unless that layout becomes super popular. Also the bottom to top row numbering is how epbt officially numbers rows which explains why they’re in that direction if you are used to GMK kitting. Keyreative (kat/kam) also numbers rows this way iirc.
Thank you for that info about the different numbering between GMK and ePbt, I’ll watch for that detail from now on.
In this kit the possible keys I could use to cover it are only the homing F and J, the \ |, pgUp and PgDn. That’s it. As you say, not ideal. My hope would be a 1u novelty, but that doesn’t seem to be a thing either.
(https://i.imgur.com/usi2oaG.png)
Post by: Nukz on Mon, 17 May 2021, 12:13:13
(https://i.imgur.com/7CNn8oy.png)Not sure whether the kit renders haven’t been updated yet, but the International kit is still missing a “, ;” key. It’s necessary to complete German layout support.
I am going to repeat it: the international kit as pictured is flawed.
I only managed to find one layouts using a “; :” key on R1: Brazilian.
Many other layouts require a “, ;” key on R1 that this kit is still missing. Specifically ones that otherwise seem to be supported by the set: German, Swedish, Danish, Norway, maybe more.
Please fix this.
Post by: Nukz on Mon, 17 May 2021, 12:14:35
fixed!It also strangely seems to have 2x R3 pgUp and 2x R2 pgDn. Is this a mistake?
Good find. Can we get confirmation that this will be fixed for the GB?
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Looks good
Why did you bump this? The group buy for this was closed last month. Dumbass.
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