I was sorta ripping the piss.
Its why I always have such a low post count at places,
I have always found you learn more from doing it yourself rather than wanting to be spoon fed.
Did my learning on Usenet where you dont ask silly questions and get away with it.
I read this place for ages before I joined because the answers were almost always there asked by another first.
That said the two that would always have the needed truth dont seem to post here anymore
With me being an ALPS fan you will be able to work out them names.
As for the wiki search I dropped down the wiki menu at the top of the page for the first link,
and then scrolled down a few lines on that page to where the link for Key Reference Wiki info was in big letters.
Does the other place even have a wiki ??
...and what would you know about them wiki's anyway