↡ \ ↠ | Base | Legend | ||
Alpha | Pantone 155C (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dxar8ZMUcAAXvLX.jpg) | Pantone 7617 C (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcZb7mkUQAAYlBA.jpg) | ||
Modifiers | Pantone 317C (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU55v17VwAAB-J6.jpg) | Pantone 7617 C (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcZb7mkUQAAYlBA.jpg) | ||
Liha* | Pantone 7617 C (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcZb7mkUQAAYlBA.jpg) | Pantone 155C (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dxar8ZMUcAAXvLX.jpg) |
↡ Kits\Vendors ↠ | MyKeyboard (EU) | Kono (NA) | Deskhero.ca (Canada) | zFrontier (Asian) | zFrontier (China) | DailyClack (Oceania) | Unit Count | |||||||
Latin Alpha | €31 | $29.99 | CAD42 | $28 | ¥166 | $43.19 | 49.5u | |||||||
Arabian Alpha | €31 | $29.99 | CAD42 | $28 | ¥166 | $43.19 | 49.5u | |||||||
Blank Alpha | €23 | $19.99 | CAD28 | $21 | ¥124 | $28.79 | 49.5u | |||||||
Oasis Modifiers | €64 | $54.99 | CAD76 | $62 | ¥368 | $79.19 | 98.25u | |||||||
Oasis Blank Modifiers | €41 | $44.99 | CAD62 | $37 | ¥220 | $64.79 | 87.25u | |||||||
Liha Modifiers | €64 | $54.99 | CAD76 | $58 | ¥345 | $79.19 | 98.25u | |||||||
Liha Blank Modifiers | €57 | $54.99 | CAD76 | $52 | ¥309 | $79.19 | 87.25u | |||||||
Oasis Calculus | €20 | $21.99 | CAD28 | $18 | ¥107 | $28.79 | 28u | |||||||
Liha Calculus | €20 | $21.99 | CAD28 | $18 | ¥107 | $28.79 | 28u | |||||||
Oasis Spacebar | €13 | $17.99 | CAD25 | $12 | ¥71 | $25.91 | 28.25u | |||||||
Liha Spacebar | €19 | $19.99 | CAD28 | $17 | ¥101 | $28.79 | 28.25u | |||||||
Accent | €5.50 | $9.99 | CAD14 | $5 | ¥29 | $14.39 | 8.25u | |||||||
UK | €10 | $12.99 | CAD18 | $9 | ¥53 | $18.71 | 14u | |||||||
International | €36 | $34.99 | CAD48 | $33 | ¥196 | $50.39 | 55u | |||||||
Baguette | €22 | $22.99 | CAD31 | $20 | ¥119 | $33.11 | 34u | |||||||
Colevrak | €30 | $29.99 | CAD42 | $28 | ¥166 | $43.19 | 43.5u | |||||||
CMD | €10 | $14.99 | CAD21 | $9 | ¥53 | $21.59 | 15u | |||||||
Oasis 40s | €43 | $39.99 | CAD55 | $40 | ¥238 | $57.59 | 65.25u | |||||||
Liha 40s | €43 | $39.99 | CAD55 | $40 | ¥238 | $57.59 | 65.25u | |||||||
Oasis Ortho | €26 | $24.99 | CAD34 | $24 | ¥142 | $35.99 | 39u | |||||||
Liha Ortho | €26 | $24.99 | CAD34 | $24 | ¥142 | $35.99 | 39u | |||||||
Oasis Ergo | €41 | $39.99 | CAD55 | $39 | ¥232 | $57.59 | 62u | |||||||
Liha Ergo | €41 | $39.99 | CAD55 | $39 | ¥232 | $57.59 | 62u | |||||||
Oasis Novelties | €18 | $19.99 | CAD28 | $17 | ¥101 | $28.79 | 28.5u | |||||||
Liha Novelties | €18 | $19.99 | CAD28 | $17 | ¥101 | $28.79 | 28.5u |
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Put the Japanese kit in the base.
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Put the Japanese kit in the base.
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Shut your god damn mouth boy
:))
pls no
I'm in if the base kit has double legends: latin + hiragana. Really cool colour combo, well done!I’m all for the R2 1u Backspace!
PS: Please add a R1 1u Backspace key.
mild intrigue
do you have a render with white alphas instead of cream?
BTW, have you considered going hangul legends instead of hiragana? Given how clean the set is, I think it would work even better.Not yet hehe, I will have a look tho I love how clean the set looks with only Latin legends
I’m all for the R2 1u Backspace!I will have a look at that ;)
So long as you leave the Hiragana mono as a separate kit I'm good to go.Yeah I kinda like how clean the Latin alphas look. That was not my first idea as I personally wanted to swap those for the Japanese kit, but I like them more and more
That palette is fantastic! Also that r4 support for 65s and arrow clustered 60s is most appreciated. Will the spacebars kit include a 2.25 and 2.75 for double spacebar builds like dz60?
hi, guy, I am really fond of this colorway. It is rather difficult to choose yellow or yellow-like colors as alpha base color because it is not to easy to find a compatible colorway in a balanced way. GMK plum and GMK penumbra are examples. Although I really like the real keycaps of plum and penumbra, they turn out not as I expect attractively.
This is a must-buy set.
Hope you get the perfect color combo .good luck.
I would be interested in modifiers kind of like the Blocknet ones from GMK Laser, otherwise really cool set!
This looks really nice! Definitely interested.
Can you say whether the color of the alphas would be closer to most of the renders in your gallery, or closer to the very last image, of the layout? That last image makes the caps look like more of a common beige color, to me. But the rest of the renders show a nice, bright sand color. This obviously captures the theme you are going for much better, assuming it's within GMK's scope. Which is closer to the likely reality?
Put the Japanese kit in the base.
Any chance for a NorDe/international alpha kit?
Jesus those brown space bars are nice.
Updated the kits :)Any chance for a NorDe/international alpha kit?
I asked for one, but they asked me to gauge the interest before going any further with it (might be my fault as I added BE/FR-ISO to the kit)
Jesus those brown space bars are nice.
I wouldn't mind having one bigger international kit with NorDe + BE/FR. Should be easier to hit MOQ if we all need to get the same kit. But in the end it comes down to a balance of the price and how many are interested of course.
I'd be interested in seeing a render or even an MS paint mockup of the coffee kit with base alphas and blue enter+esc.
I appreciate the Coffee mods, because it gives very nice combo with the alphas from the base set. However it would be nice to speak with or atleast to honor the designer of Coffee keyset. Afaik its /u/Traumtrager on Reddit ( source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91980.msg2504571#msg2504571 )
Coffee keyset was sold previously on keypop tho in dcs profile: http://www.keypop.net/product/coffee-set-2-0-base-set
Not sure if DSA set made it.I'd be interested in seeing a render or even an MS paint mockup of the coffee kit with base alphas and blue enter+esc.
Coffee is a very lovely keyset.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bur1YOA.jpg)
Tho no blue enter :\
I appreciate the Coffee mods, because it gives very nice combo with the alphas from the base set. However it would be nice to speak with or atleast to honor the designer of Coffee keyset. Afaik its /u/Traumtrager on Reddit ( source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91980.msg2504571#msg2504571 )
Coffee keyset was sold previously on keypop tho in dcs profile: http://www.keypop.net/product/coffee-set-2-0-base-set
Not sure if DSA set made it.
I appreciate the Coffee mods, because it gives very nice combo with the alphas from the base set. However it would be nice to speak with or atleast to honor the designer of Coffee keyset. Afaik its /u/Traumtrager on Reddit ( source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91980.msg2504571#msg2504571 )
Coffee keyset was sold previously on keypop tho in dcs profile: http://www.keypop.net/product/coffee-set-2-0-base-set
Not sure if DSA set made it.
I didn't know that, I got the name because Quakemz mentioned it on Top Clack tho that wasn't the inspiration at all haha. I will send a message just in case but I can change the name for sure.
I bet it would be pretty nice with sage or lake m60 as well.I appreciate the Coffee mods, because it gives very nice combo with the alphas from the base set. However it would be nice to speak with or atleast to honor the designer of Coffee keyset. Afaik its /u/Traumtrager on Reddit ( source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91980.msg2504571#msg2504571 )
Coffee keyset was sold previously on keypop tho in dcs profile: http://www.keypop.net/product/coffee-set-2-0-base-set
Not sure if DSA set made it.
I didn't know that, I got the name because Quakemz mentioned it on Top Clack tho that wasn't the inspiration at all haha. I will send a message just in case but I can change the name for sure.
Was not saying you stole the idea or something. I for myself run several times during color design time into coffee colorway :)) .
Anyway i probably have weird taste but i find coffee is one of those colroways which would blow your mind if you combine it with a freakishly nice and unique wooden case. Add to this nice brown leather wrist rest. You can imagine.
Was not saying you stole the idea or something. :p I for myself run several times during color design time into coffee colorway :)) .
Anyway i probably have weird taste but i find coffee is one of those colroways which would blow your mind if you combine it with a freakishly nice and unique wooden case. Add to this nice brown leather wrist rest. You can imagine.
Coffee renders incoming? :D
There you go guys!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/26uhPPC.jpg)
The coffee modifier is more consistent with the alpha's color than the blue modiferSo sorry you don't like the blue modifiers as much as I do, I hope you'll join despite that :)
Nice. Definitely interested. I'm assuming the Rama caps are going direct to you from the manu? Because otherwise I'd rather just pick them up from him in person and avoid the shipping cost...I'd have to see that with Rama as I got told that I had to add the X USD for the caps to ship to me for distribution.
oh man, i want the coffee.Thanks for the support!
would join for coffee modifier !Sexy, ain't it? Thanks for the support!
Much prefer the coffee mods would much prefer this being a coffee inspired set.
Yeah I wouldn't expect you to totally change your vision!
It's your set!
I'm just glad the brown mods have been added as an extra :)
To me this is GMK Oasis. Not GMK Coffee, or Mocha, or Hot Chocolate, or Mocho Cocoa, or whatever. Someone can create those if they want. And I might even buy them. But I think the original idea for this is more unique. I dig that tropical blue and sand, yet understated vibe. It's soothing, and it's bright in a way that isn't obnoxious. It makes me happy. And so I want to support the creator's inspiration for this set, and to be grateful that in addition to that I can also get the brown mods as a nice add-on. Best of both worlds.
Might snatch Kobe alphas just to combine them with other mods.If you're interested, and like that everyone knows, I asked form a Hangul sublegend alpha set ala Burgundy. A lot of people requested one when I first posted the IC on reddit, but I wasn't sure. The idea started to grow on me (reminded me when I played SC2) and I'm waiting for a reply on how feasible those are but it shouldn't be any problem.
Thanks a lot for all your messages and feedback, I'll go through them in detail in a bit when I'm done with work, but I wanted to say that I had an idea when developing the keyset, and as much as the coffee kit is popular and as good as it looks, I want to stick to my idea. The main kit will this keep the blue modifiers keys and the coffee kit will be sold apart.
I hope you guys understand and you will still support the keyset when it comes out :-)
Hey!
I completely respect your decision to keep it going as GMK Oasis but I do have a suggestion.
Please include the coffee arrows and enter keys in the coffee kit. That way people who are interested can just buy the coffee kit or the coffee + kobe kit without having to also buy the base.
Hey!
I completely respect your decision to keep it going as GMK Oasis but I do have a suggestion.
Please include the coffee arrows and enter keys in the coffee kit. That way people who are interested can just buy the coffee kit or the coffee + kobe kit without having to also buy the base.
The problem then is that I either have to include said keys in the coffee kit by removing them from the base kit, which I don't really like, or I leave the core as is and add said keys to the coffee anyway, people buying both kits would then find themselves with twice the keys. I'll give it some thoughts nonetheless
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If you're interested, and like that everyone knows, I asked form a Hangul sublegend alpha set ala Burgundy. A lot of people requested one when I first posted the IC on reddit, but I wasn't sure. The idea started to grow on me (reminded me when I played SC2) and I'm waiting for a reply on how feasible those are but it shouldn't be any problem.
Thanks for your support guys! Will come back to you as soon I hear back from GMK for the different kits (International and Hangul)
I'm coming for the alpha with coffee mod, when will the GB start?
Just one thing missing (if Hangul set comes through)... R1 1u backspace...I second this!
I have been waiting for this set to be made! Specifically for the coffee mods!
1. Is there a price for the coffee kit yet?
2. Is there any way to make the coffee kit a secondary base set as well as a mod child kit?
It looks like a bank-buster if people like me want it specifically for the coffee kit :'D
Will the Kobe kit include brown keys to match the Coffee kit?
Will the Kobe kit include brown keys to match the Coffee kit?
Unfortunately, I don't think it will. I am thinking of removing the blue keys from the kit as well so it is purely an alpha kit.
I finally got the final GMK prices for almost all the kits (I am starting to think they don't want to produce an international kit at all since no matter how many times I ask for an update, they dodge the question; and the hangul kit is ... well... as dead as the international kit). I am now waiting on the sellers prices and we should be good to go. Most of the kits are in their final form now (I have to admit I didn't work a lot on the kobe kit because it didn't seem that popular in the first place).
I hope to have an update for you guys after the long weekend.
the first time I saw this set I was not convinced.
Today I am convinced to take all the kits from the set.
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Will the Kobe kit include brown keys to match the Coffee kit?
Unfortunately, I don't think it will. I am thinking of removing the blue keys from the kit as well so it is purely an alpha kit.
I finally got the final GMK prices for almost all the kits (I am starting to think they don't want to produce an international kit at all since no matter how many times I ask for an update, they dodge the question; and the hangul kit is ... well... as dead as the international kit). I am now waiting on the sellers prices and we should be good to go. Most of the kits are in their final form now (I have to admit I didn't work a lot on the kobe kit because it didn't seem that popular in the first place).
I hope to have an update for you guys after the long weekend.
Why..? They did it for GMK Burgundy...
I know, right? I keep asking about the kits, and they keep dodging it. When I first asked about it, the person I was in touch with told me he would have to check with the team in charge of that, but that there shouldn't be any problem. I'll keep pushing for that kit as it seems to be quite popular and has been asked a fair amount of time and I'll keep you guys updated!
I know, right? I keep asking about the kits, and they keep dodging it. When I first asked about it, the person I was in touch with told me he would have to check with the team in charge of that, but that there shouldn't be any problem. I'll keep pushing for that kit as it seems to be quite popular and has been asked a fair amount of time and I'll keep you guys updated!
Hangul kit is actually struggling quite a bit on GMK Burgundy. And, technically since they're paying for the molds, you should be asking cocobrais. I think that's how it works, at least.
In five minutes, if I figure out how to do it, a poll with be up in the OP with a simple question, would you guys rather see a GMK Oasis set or a GMK Coffee set.Whichever way you go, I think you need to change the name from "Coffee" to "Latte"... there's far too much cream to be coffee! :D
I know what I've said in the past, and as much as I want to stick to my original idea, I have to face it, there are a **** ton of GMK keysets being released right now, and even the hyped ones tend to sell poorly, or, let's say worse than originally expected. I am then left with a choice, I either run GMK Oasis as I imagined it, or I run it as GMK Coffee and I add a blue add on kit as an extra.
Here is where you guys come in, please answer the poll and let's decide together what this kit will become.
<3
Poll link: here (http://www.strawpoll.me/15740786) just in case :D
In five minutes, if I figure out how to do it, a poll with be up in the OP with a simple question, would you guys rather see a GMK Oasis set or a GMK Coffee set.
I know what I've said in the past, and as much as I want to stick to my original idea, I have to face it, there are a **** ton of GMK keysets being released right now, and even the hyped ones tend to sell poorly, or, let's say worse than originally expected. I am then left with a choice, I either run GMK Oasis as I imagined it, or I run it as GMK Coffee and I add a blue add on kit as an extra.
Here is where you guys come in, please answer the poll and let's decide together what this kit will become.
<3
Poll link: here (http://www.strawpoll.me/15740786) just in case :D
In five minutes, if I figure out how to do it, a poll with be up in the OP with a simple question, would you guys rather see a GMK Oasis set or a GMK Coffee set.Whichever way you go, I think you need to change the name from "Coffee" to "Latte"... there's far too much cream to be coffee! :D
I know what I've said in the past, and as much as I want to stick to my original idea, I have to face it, there are a **** ton of GMK keysets being released right now, and even the hyped ones tend to sell poorly, or, let's say worse than originally expected. I am then left with a choice, I either run GMK Oasis as I imagined it, or I run it as GMK Coffee and I add a blue add on kit as an extra.
Here is where you guys come in, please answer the poll and let's decide together what this kit will become.
<3
Poll link: here (http://www.strawpoll.me/15740786) just in case :D
In five minutes, if I figure out how to do it, a poll with be up in the OP with a simple question, would you guys rather see a GMK Oasis set or a GMK Coffee set.
I know what I've said in the past, and as much as I want to stick to my original idea, I have to face it, there are a **** ton of GMK keysets being released right now, and even the hyped ones tend to sell poorly, or, let's say worse than originally expected. I am then left with a choice, I either run GMK Oasis as I imagined it, or I run it as GMK Coffee and I add a blue add on kit as an extra.
Here is where you guys come in, please answer the poll and let's decide together what this kit will become.
<3
Poll link: here (http://www.strawpoll.me/15740786) just in case :D
You know what they say: those who stand for nothing, fall for anything. Stick to your original idea, it's a beautiful colour combo and it's actually something new...
You know what they say: those who stand for nothing, fall for anything. Stick to your original idea, it's a beautiful colour combo and it's actually something new...
I was expecting the coffee kit to win my a larger margin (4 votes at the time of writing). If this trend keeps going I will probably keep the kits as they are, I really enjoy that color combo as well.
But thanks for your support
In five minutes, if I figure out how to do it, a poll with be up in the OP with a simple question, would you guys rather see a GMK Oasis set or a GMK Coffee set.
I know what I've said in the past, and as much as I want to stick to my original idea, I have to face it, there are a **** ton of GMK keysets being released right now, and even the hyped ones tend to sell poorly, or, let's say worse than originally expected. I am then left with a choice, I either run GMK Oasis as I imagined it, or I run it as GMK Coffee and I add a blue add on kit as an extra.
Here is where you guys come in, please answer the poll and let's decide together what this kit will become.
<3
Poll link: here (http://www.strawpoll.me/15740786) just in case :D
You know what they say: those who stand for nothing, fall for anything. Stick to your original idea, it's a beautiful colour combo and it's actually something new...
I have no problem dropping the extra dough on a coffee add-on kit ;)
And that'd give me a set of uniquely colored light blue mods to mix and match with other sets!
You know what they say: those who stand for nothing, fall for anything. Stick to your original idea, it's a beautiful colour combo and it's actually something new...I couldn't agree more. The blue and sand is special.
I have no problem dropping the extra dough on a coffee add-on kit ;)
And that'd give me a set of uniquely colored light blue mods to mix and match with other sets!
I have no problem dropping the extra dough on a coffee add-on kit ;)
And that'd give me a set of uniquely colored light blue mods to mix and match with other sets!
I totally agree with you
P.S. @JSaintS I didn't understand a thing, in addition to the artisan (beautiful) caps that will be part of the lottery, will the keycaps of rama be ordered as it was for the gmk olivia?
I have no problem dropping the extra dough on a coffee add-on kit ;)
And that'd give me a set of uniquely colored light blue mods to mix and match with other sets!
I have no problem dropping the extra dough on a coffee add-on kit ;)
And that'd give me a set of uniquely colored light blue mods to mix and match with other sets!
I totally agree with you
P.S. @JSaintS I didn't understand a thing, in addition to the artisan (beautiful) caps that will be part of the lottery, will the keycaps of rama be ordered as it was for the gmk olivia?
Yup, I should have made that clearer; the Rama keycaps will be sold in a GB with a MOQ of 50 (which is what I got told by RAMA) :)
Vote. If the coffee set has been settled, a blue child kit is preferred as well.
I see the awesome RAMA novelty key in golden color. I am fond of blue better. Anyway, the update is prompt and timely. Thank you
May i just ask, will the coffee kit still run as an addon??
Vendors | Base kit (MOQ 250) | Base kit (MOQ 500) | Kobe (MOQ 150) | Spacebar kit | Ergo & Plank kit | Coffe | Sleeve | 1m Cable | 1.5m Cable | |||||||||
MyKeyboard (EU) | 136€ | 130€ | 55€ | 35€ | 110€ | 76€ | 26€ | 16€ | 18.5€ | |||||||||
Novelkeys (USA) | $155 | $145 | $70 | $35 | $115 | $85 | TBD | TBD | TBD | |||||||||
zFrontier (Asia) | CNY998 ($168) | CNY938 ($158) | CNY450 ($73) | CNY226 ($37) | CNY748 ($122) | CNY545 ($89) | CNY198 ($32) | CNY157 ($25.5) | CNY173 ($28) |
Quick update! :)
I got a mail this morning (5/25) regarding the hangul, international kit, addition of a couple of keys to the Coffee kit and 1u backspace in the core kit. All these changes and kits will be made BUT the person in charge of those will only be back in office at the end of next week, meaning we will push the GB back a little more as I prefer to have a complete offering :) I hope you guys will like the end result!
Quick update! :)
I got a mail this morning (5/25) regarding the hangul, international kit, addition of a couple of keys to the Coffee kit and 1u backspace in the core kit. All these changes and kits will be made BUT the person in charge of those will only be back in office at the end of next week, meaning we will push the GB back a little more as I prefer to have a complete offering :) I hope you guys will like the end result!
I'm happy to see this coming together very nicely so far. Has there been any update on how the colors will look compared to the renders? I think there was some discussion of this in the beginning, regarding the color of the sand caps.
I remember mentionning it to GMK and to Janglad (who did the renders). Janglad confirmed it would look really close to his renders and GMK reassured me by telling me that they would send me samples to make sure the colors would look good. Other than that, I also mentionned the fact that I live in Belgium, and I won't hesitate to visit GMK (should they allow me to) to make sure colors are matching what I imagined for the set.
Quick update! :)
I got a mail this morning (5/25) regarding the hangul, international kit, addition of a couple of keys to the Coffee kit and 1u backspace in the core kit. All these changes and kits will be made BUT the person in charge of those will only be back in office at the end of next week, meaning we will push the GB back a little more as I prefer to have a complete offering :) I hope you guys will like the end result!
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I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
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I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
a sad news, I hope this set remains gmk, it's perfect imho
KMK Labs.
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I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974 (https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974)
a sad news, I hope this set remains gmk, it's perfect imho
KMK Labs.
For sure! I still plan on running it with GMK, but those comments got me thinking and I have to admit that this set is and never will be as popular as other hyped sets. I just don't want to be left without any options, the colorway imports me more than the profile as I really love it, so if the GMK GB fails, I will run this as DSA.
The low MOQ is really a plus - I've heard the DSA manufacturer worked with a MOQ of 100 (but in another mail, the person I am in contact with told me that they virtually had no MOQ, which would be great news for the set.
GMK suits this set best, I think. To me, the boxy look of a flatter, more uniform profile doesn't seem to pair as well with the idea of sand and water. I actually think SA would be really nice, with the smoother texture and the nice roundedness complementing the inspiration for this set, but I'm not sure that would improve your MOQ concerns. No idea what current SA set MOQs are like. With DSA, how would the colors be affected?
You need to run it through Massdrop...
Really hope this gets made by GMK, this would be my first keyset but I actually prefer it to virtually every other keysets I've seen. I love that color scheme, amazing work really!
Fingers crossed :)
You need to run it through Massdrop...
Ah that would probably solve the MOQ issue (although that's not even sure) what that would make it hell for us european customers, wouldn't it?
Not quite because shipping is often quite high and in some cases there can be extra taxes you have to pay. Also sometimes the items get stuck in customs and that can take quite a while.You need to run it through Massdrop...
Ah that would probably solve the MOQ issue (although that's not even sure) what that would make it hell for us european customers, wouldn't it?
Why? MD is fine for europeans.
You need to run it through Massdrop...
Ah that would probably solve the MOQ issue (although that's not even sure) what that would make it hell for us european customers, wouldn't it?
Why? MD is fine for europeans.
Really hope this gets made by GMK, this would be my first keyset but I actually prefer it to virtually every other keysets I've seen. I love that color scheme, amazing work really!
Fingers crossed :)
Would also prefer to keep it GMK over DSA but understand your considerations
Profile preference:I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
Profile preference:I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
Profile preference:I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
I didn't (yet) as I tend to associate SP with higher prices, and the fact that I never typed on SA, but I can do that. That said I have never heard of DSS so I will have to check.
For the moment, I am in contact with :
1) a DSA manufacturer to see what can be done (but they warned me they had a lot of their plate right now and it would take a little time);
2) Massdrop. This is a little more tricky as (a) i'd prefer to stick with the vendors I picked since I really like them and I know them but (b) Massdrop has a better reach since, well, it's Massdrop, even though (c) European customers might suffer from this (I know that, being European myself) with import taxes. That and the potential interest check having to be done on Massdrop itself.
Profile preference:I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
I didn't (yet) as I tend to associate SP with higher prices, and the fact that I never typed on SA, but I can do that. That said I have never heard of DSS so I will have to check.
For the moment, I am in contact with :
1) a DSA manufacturer to see what can be done (but they warned me they had a lot of their plate right now and it would take a little time);
2) Massdrop. This is a little more tricky as (a) i'd prefer to stick with the vendors I picked since I really like them and I know them but (b) Massdrop has a better reach since, well, it's Massdrop, even though (c) European customers might suffer from this (I know that, being European myself) with import taxes. That and the potential interest check having to be done on Massdrop itself.
Have you considered doing jtk? Apparently, their new legends are much better and looking at the group buy on switchmod.net their moq is 100.
Profile preference:I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
I didn't (yet) as I tend to associate SP with higher prices, and the fact that I never typed on SA, but I can do that. That said I have never heard of DSS so I will have to check.
For the moment, I am in contact with :
1) a DSA manufacturer to see what can be done (but they warned me they had a lot of their plate right now and it would take a little time);
2) Massdrop. This is a little more tricky as (a) i'd prefer to stick with the vendors I picked since I really like them and I know them but (b) Massdrop has a better reach since, well, it's Massdrop, even though (c) European customers might suffer from this (I know that, being European myself) with import taxes. That and the potential interest check having to be done on Massdrop itself.
Profile preference:I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
I didn't (yet) as I tend to associate SP with higher prices, and the fact that I never typed on SA, but I can do that. That said I have never heard of DSS so I will have to check.
For the moment, I am in contact with :
1) a DSA manufacturer to see what can be done (but they warned me they had a lot of their plate right now and it would take a little time);
2) Massdrop. This is a little more tricky as (a) i'd prefer to stick with the vendors I picked since I really like them and I know them but (b) Massdrop has a better reach since, well, it's Massdrop, even though (c) European customers might suffer from this (I know that, being European myself) with import taxes. That and the potential interest check having to be done on Massdrop itself.
Forgot where I saw this image posted but found it in my history, apologies for not citing the source... DSS is dead center:Profile preference:I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
I didn't (yet) as I tend to associate SP with higher prices, and the fact that I never typed on SA, but I can do that. That said I have never heard of DSS so I will have to check.
For the moment, I am in contact with :
1) a DSA manufacturer to see what can be done (but they warned me they had a lot of their plate right now and it would take a little time);
2) Massdrop. This is a little more tricky as (a) i'd prefer to stick with the vendors I picked since I really like them and I know them but (b) Massdrop has a better reach since, well, it's Massdrop, even though (c) European customers might suffer from this (I know that, being European myself) with import taxes. That and the potential interest check having to be done on Massdrop itself.
I don't mind Massdrop personally, and it does increase reach, as many are finding out in the current climate, it can be hard to reach MOQ. Not sure what the backlog is like on MD at he current time, however. You're looking at a few months until GB. You could also reach out to Sheraton at OriginativeCo. He's done a few things with designers, and has even bailed out GMK Necro. But who knows what his current capacity is.
I like JTK... but I like GMK more. Never seen DSS... DCS, yes... and Midnight is a good set in DCS. But DSS? Where's the reference to that?
Heya!
Sad news today unfortunately: my vendors brought to my attention that multiplying the kits also come with the problem and possibility of none of them hitting MOQ and having you guys back off, reducing the number of core kit orders and causing a loss of money on our part due to refund. With that in mind, I had to make a choice and select a fewer number of kits, if you wanted one of the abandonned kits, I am trully sorry, trust me. I thus decided to keep the Core kit, the coffe kit, the spacebar kit and the Kobe or Hangul kit.
thanks for your support guys
PS: for the Hangul kit, please check the OP as I'm still waiting on GMK.
Heya!
Sad news today unfortunately: my vendors brought to my attention that multiplying the kits also come with the problem and possibility of none of them hitting MOQ and having you guys back off, reducing the number of core kit orders and causing a loss of money on our part due to refund. With that in mind, I had to make a choice and select a fewer number of kits, if you wanted one of the abandonned kits, I am trully sorry, trust me. I thus decided to keep the Core kit, the coffe kit, the spacebar kit and the Kobe or Hangul kit.
thanks for your support guys
PS: for the Hangul kit, please check the OP as I'm still waiting on GMK.
Heya!
Sad news today unfortunately: my vendors brought to my attention that multiplying the kits also come with the problem and possibility of none of them hitting MOQ and having you guys back off, reducing the number of core kit orders and causing a loss of money on our part due to refund. With that in mind, I had to make a choice and select a fewer number of kits, if you wanted one of the abandonned kits, I am trully sorry, trust me. I thus decided to keep the Core kit, the coffe kit, the spacebar kit and the Kobe or Hangul kit.
thanks for your support guys
PS: for the Hangul kit, please check the OP as I'm still waiting on GMK.
How will you decide Kobe vs. Hangul?
Heya!
Sad news today unfortunately: my vendors brought to my attention that multiplying the kits also come with the problem and possibility of none of them hitting MOQ and having you guys back off, reducing the number of core kit orders and causing a loss of money on our part due to refund. With that in mind, I had to make a choice and select a fewer number of kits, if you wanted one of the abandonned kits, I am trully sorry, trust me. I thus decided to keep the Core kit, the coffe kit, the spacebar kit and the Kobe or Hangul kit.
thanks for your support guys
PS: for the Hangul kit, please check the OP as I'm still waiting on GMK.
How will you decide Kobe vs. Hangul?
I have a preference for Hangul since those will come with Latin legends and Korean sublegends, but I will also listen to what you guys want :-)
There's no 1.25u left shift in the coffee kit. Not sure if that's an oversight or not. I see why there's no ISO enter as it's already in the base kit. The loss of the international/norde kit kind of killed this for me, but still interested in the coffee modifiers :)
There's no 1.25u left shift in the coffee kit. Not sure if that's an oversight or not. I see why there's no ISO enter as it's already in the base kit. The loss of the international/norde kit kind of killed this for me, but still interested in the coffee modifiers :)
As I stated in the OP, the 1.25u shift will be present, same goes for the iso return and ANSI return key :-)
Why the 1u R2 backspace..? It needs to be R1 1u or R2 1.5u...R2 would be for 40% boards. I agree that R1 would be more widely used though.
I've already tried to explain this to you but it seems it was in vain.
So, once again, Laser offered R1 1u delete and R2 1.5u backspace. Now, when you decide to offer a R2 1.5u delete and no R2 1.5u backspace, you need to offer a R1 1u backspace, otherwise people will be running HHKB layouts, for example, with two delete keys... and that's not good, as you can imagine.
I've already tried to explain this to you but it seems it was in vain.
So, once again, Laser offered R1 1u delete and R2 1.5u backspace. Now, when you decide to offer a R2 1.5u delete and no R2 1.5u backspace, you need to offer a R1 1u backspace, otherwise people will be running HHKB layouts, for example, with two delete keys... and that's not good, as you can imagine.
I agree that there's no use for the R2 1u backspace, but I don't get how this would be ruining HHKB layout boards? How would you use a R2 1u key on a HHKB either way? If you wanted to have both delete and backspace on the board you could already use the 1.5u backspace and use the R1 1u delete that's already in the kit in place of the tilde key no?
Edit: ooh wait the 1.5u R2 is Delete not backspace,
I've already tried to explain this to you but it seems it was in vain.
So, once again, Laser offered R1 1u delete and R2 1.5u backspace. Now, when you decide to offer a R2 1.5u delete and no R2 1.5u backspace, you need to offer a R1 1u backspace, otherwise people will be running HHKB layouts, for example, with two delete keys... and that's not good, as you can imagine.
I agree that there's no use for the R2 1u backspace, but I don't get how this would be ruining HHKB layout boards? How would you use a R2 1u key on a HHKB either way? If you wanted to have both delete and backspace on the board you could already use the 1.5u backspace and use the R1 1u delete that's already in the kit in place of the tilde key no?
Edit: ooh wait the 1.5u R2 is Delete not backspace,
I've already tried to explain this to you but it seems it was in vain.
So, once again, Laser offered R1 1u delete and R2 1.5u backspace. Now, when you decide to offer a R2 1.5u delete and no R2 1.5u backspace, you need to offer a R1 1u backspace, otherwise people will be running HHKB layouts, for example, with two delete keys... and that's not good, as you can imagine.
I agree that there's no use for the R2 1u backspace, but I don't get how this would be ruining HHKB layout boards? How would you use a R2 1u key on a HHKB either way? If you wanted to have both delete and backspace on the board you could already use the 1.5u backspace and use the R1 1u delete that's already in the kit in place of the tilde key no?
Edit: ooh wait the 1.5u R2 is Delete not backspace,
Yup, this is going to change. Delete → backspace
If you offer R1 1u delete and R2 1.5u backspace, it's perfect.
Update with corrected R2 1.5 legend on the backspace:
CoreShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/9Nb9HqI.png)
CoffeeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/9Njg6r8.png)
Because we should all have an OG Mac at home:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/XdmzxXT.png)
Modern M0110 in beige cerakote by Janglad
any update?
KMK Labs.
any update?
KMK Labs.
I wish, I am still waiting on GMK. They told me they would have the last render, MOQ and price but I assume they are busy with something else. I will post here as soon as I have news, hopefully soon hehe.
What's up everybody?!
I finally got word from GMK! The hangul kit still needs a little work as this would not work with Coffee and the spacebar kit as standalones, but that has already been request and it should come soon (hence the lack of price for the moment):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TsvbUl0.png)
But there is more!
Mike got the samples in for the deskmat; I'm a little bumped as I asked for the background color to have the same color as the alphas, but the color as kinda grown on me. Here it is:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Xbq98Gm.jpg)
As I've always tried to listen to your guys' feedback and as we are closing in on the GB date, I would like to ask you guys to fill in this form: https://goo.gl/forms/kxcM9W7OYmeHe5tx1; that would help a lot!
Thanks a lot
<2
Still like Kobe better, especially as it's standalone (and of course it's of use to me).
Still like Kobe better, especially as it's standalone (and of course it's of use to me).
The Hangul kit would be standalone too :)
I like japanese better, but I would have liked to have it as a sublegend hehe
So I've been told that it is hangul only for the alphas... I would have loved the kobe more :(
So I've been told that it is hangul only for the alphas... I would have loved the kobe more :(
For the moment Kobe is winning (57% to 43% for Hangul), so for the moment it would be kobe; but nothing is set, I'd like a maximum of person to vote which is why I'll leave the form up until Monday. zFrontier is also posting the same form for China and I should get the results back on Monday as well. I will then make a decision :)
What about Canadians????????
Vendors | Base kit (MOQ 250) | Kobe (MOQ 150) | Spacebar kit | Coffee | Sleeves (different sizes) | Cables (different sizes) | ||||||
MyKeyboard (EU) | 136€ | 55€ | 35€ | 110€ | 26€ | 16€ | ||||||
Novelkeys (USA) | $146 | $70 | $35 | $105 | TBD | TBD | ||||||
zFrontier (Asia) | CNY998 ($168) | CNY450 ($73) | CNY226 ($37) | TBD | CNY198 ($32) | CNY157 ($25.5) |
Does Coffee have a MOQ?
The price for the Coffe kit is embarrassing.The pricing sucks for sure but I doubt the group buy runner had much say in this. These prices are mostly set by gmk. I don't really get when people blame people who host the group buys for the prices, since they have such little say.
Made me loose my interest as I was expecting a 70-80 usd price.
In EU, adding shipping, I'm reaching a full GMK set price :/
The price for the Coffe kit is embarrassing.
Made me loose my interest as I was expecting a 70-80 usd price.
In EU, adding shipping, I'm reaching a full GMK set price :/
The price for the Coffe kit is embarrassing.The pricing sucks for sure but I doubt the group buy runner had much say in this. These prices are mostly set by gmk. I don't really get when people blame people who host the group buys for the prices, since they have such little say.
Made me loose my interest as I was expecting a 70-80 usd price.
In EU, adding shipping, I'm reaching a full GMK set price :/
Yeah... to get everything I want is about $391. That's a bit all in- so I guess I'll have to retreat from that.
Vendors | Base kit (MOQ 250) | Kobe (MOQ 150) | Spacebar kit | Coffee | Sleeves (different sizes) | Cables (different sizes) | ||||||
MyKeyboard (EU) | 136€ | 55€ | 35€ | 95€ | 26€ | 16€ | ||||||
Novelkeys (USA) | $146 | $70 | $35 | $105 | TBD | TBD | ||||||
zFrontier (Asia) | ¥998 ($166) | ¥448 ($72) | ¥226 ($37) | ¥672 ($109) | ¥198 ($32) | ¥157 ($25.5) |
People will later sing songs about how stupid I am, but I actually can't read an Excel spreadsheet. The price I received from the EU vendor for the Coffee kit is actually 95€ and not 110 as listed now. (US price is still correct tho).
Here is an updated table:
Vendors Base kit (MOQ 250) Kobe (MOQ 150) Spacebar kit Coffee Sleeves (different sizes) Cables (different sizes) MyKeyboard (EU) 136€ 55€ 35€ 95€ 26€ 16€Novelkeys (USA) $146 $70 $35 $105 TBD TBDzFrontier (Asia) ¥998 ($166) ¥448 ($72) ¥226 ($37) ¥672 ($109) ¥198 ($32) ¥157 ($25.5)
Prices for zFrontier are a little higher because those include shipping fees.
People will later sing songs about how stupid I am, but I actually can't read an Excel spreadsheet. The price I received from the EU vendor for the Coffee kit is actually 95€ and not 110 as listed now. (US price is still correct tho).
Here is an updated table:
Vendors Base kit (MOQ 250) Kobe (MOQ 150) Spacebar kit Coffee Sleeves (different sizes) Cables (different sizes) MyKeyboard (EU) 136€ 55€ 35€ 95€ 26€ 16€Novelkeys (USA) $146 $70 $35 $105 TBD TBDzFrontier (Asia) ¥998 ($166) ¥448 ($72) ¥226 ($37) ¥672 ($109) ¥198 ($32) ¥157 ($25.5)
Prices for zFrontier are a little higher because those include shipping fees.
no problem, as I said several times, I will take the gmk oasis, including kit coffe, because I like everything about this set, and I am a great supporter, my answer did not want to be controversy, I was just looking for a logical explanation. Good luck for the gb.
I cant wait. :thumb:
KMK Labs
Yeah... to get everything I want is about $391. That's a bit all in- so I guess I'll have to retreat from that.
Sad to see you go. That said, what would cost you $391? As every kit together is $356 (which is still a lot of money), but what did you plan on buying before droping?
Yeah... to get everything I want is about $391. That's a bit all in- so I guess I'll have to retreat from that.
Sad to see you go. That said, what would cost you $391? As every kit together is $356 (which is still a lot of money), but what did you plan on buying before droping?
Oh, I'm not leaving. Just not getting all the kits. I was going to get Base (146) +Coffee (105) +Kobe (70) +Spacebarsx2 (70) = 391. I'm either now going to get Kobe + Coffee or Base. And maybe spacebars if I can swing it- depends on which way I go. Still a lot. But not $400 a lot.
The price for the Coffe kit is embarrassing.
Made me loose my interest as I was expecting a 70-80 usd price.
In EU, adding shipping, I'm reaching a full GMK set price :/The price for the Coffe kit is embarrassing.The pricing sucks for sure but I doubt the group buy runner had much say in this. These prices are mostly set by gmk. I don't really get when people blame people who host the group buys for the prices, since they have such little say.
Made me loose my interest as I was expecting a 70-80 usd price.
In EU, adding shipping, I'm reaching a full GMK set price :/
Thank you for this. I did indeed not have much to say about that. I would have LOVED to make a 70-80$ kit, but that's way under what GMK is selling those to the vendors, you'd also need to factor in the vendors' expenses, shipping fees to them and VAT and that's unfortunately the price you get :(
Vendors | Base kit (MOQ 250) | Kobe (MOQ 150) | Spacebar kit | Coffee | Sleeves (different sizes) | Cables (different sizes) | ||||||
MyKeyboard (EU) | 129€ | 54€ | 34.99€ | 95€ | 25€+ | 16€+ | ||||||
Novelkeys (USA) | $146 | $70 | $35 | $105 | TBD | TBD | ||||||
zFrontier (Asia) | ¥998 ($166) | ¥448 ($72) | ¥226 ($37) | ¥672 ($109) | ¥198 ($32) | ¥157 ($25.5) |
Congrats on making this happen - you got my cash, looking forward to the set ...
We are pleased to confirm your order 11**** has been received and will be processed shortly.
Your order contains:
X keycap by Rama - quantity: 1
O keycap by Rama - quantity: 1
GMK Oasis Core kit - quantity: 1
GMK Cofee kit - quantity: 1
here we are ready!!!
KMK Labs
So, for all of you guys that were following my thread here and not the GB post, here is what I posted there earlier today:Ah that’s sad to hear but thanks for the update. Love the set and especially love that blue with the alphas.
Hello Everyone!
I have a sad update for you but I want to be completely transparent, so here it is: I am closing the GMK Oasis GB.
I discussed this with the vendor and I need to be realistic, we are not going to hit MOQ. Here are some numbers:
EU has sold a whopping 4 core kits, all in the first 24h of the sale going live, none have been ordered since then;
We sold a total of 31 Core kit in about 10 days, I don't see the keyset selling another 219 core kits in the remaining 3 weeks of the GB; and
We have sold more Rama keycaps than Core, Coffee and Kobe put together.
I guess I haven't done a good enough job promoting the keyset, but when I compare this to the DSA Milkshake GB that just launched and sold 200+ kits in the first day in the states alone, I can compete. I'd rather stop it here than see the vendors lose more money if I wait.
This is not to say that I am dropping the idea and abandoning it; far from that. I am still committed to the colorway and want it to happen, I guess now is just not the time, and I guess GMK is just not the profile. zFrontier reached out to me asking me if I had any interest in running the keyset in their new KAT profile, which I've been really interested in since they announced it. I am thus looking into that and other potential profiles (I already checked with zFrontier for DSA); I asked for the IC thread to be unlocked in order to post some more there and I will post this update there as well.
Last but not least, since we hit MOQ on the Rama X/O keycaps, I asked the vendors to contact the clients and see if they wanted to keep their artisan purchase. As for the other artisans (Briz and Artkey) I will wait for the product to relaunch before raffling them (the raijis are already casted, so you can be sure I will come back with the keyset!
Thanks to those of you would placed an order and sorry for the disappointment.
Jonathan
Everything I have is what zFrontier sent me:
I’m curious what this KAT profile is though? Do you have any information on it?
So, for all of you guys that were following my thread here and not the GB post, here is what I posted there earlier today:
Hello Everyone!
I have a sad update for you but I want to be completely transparent, so here it is: I am closing the GMK Oasis GB.
I discussed this with the vendor and I need to be realistic, we are not going to hit MOQ. Here are some numbers:
EU has sold a whopping 4 core kits, all in the first 24h of the sale going live, none have been ordered since then;
We sold a total of 31 Core kit in about 10 days, I don't see the keyset selling another 219 core kits in the remaining 3 weeks of the GB; and
We have sold more Rama keycaps than Core, Coffee and Kobe put together.
I guess I haven't done a good enough job promoting the keyset, but when I compare this to the DSA Milkshake GB that just launched and sold 200+ kits in the first day in the states alone, I can compete. I'd rather stop it here than see the vendors lose more money if I wait.
This is not to say that I am dropping the idea and abandoning it; far from that. I am still committed to the colorway and want it to happen, I guess now is just not the time, and I guess GMK is just not the profile. zFrontier reached out to me asking me if I had any interest in running the keyset in their new KAT profile, which I've been really interested in since they announced it. I am thus looking into that and other potential profiles (I already checked with zFrontier for DSA); I asked for the IC thread to be unlocked in order to post some more there and I will post this update there as well.
Last but not least, since we hit MOQ on the Rama X/O keycaps, I asked the vendors to contact the clients and see if they wanted to keep their artisan purchase. As for the other artisans (Briz and Artkey) I will wait for the product to relaunch before raffling them (the raijis are already casted, so you can be sure I will come back with the keyset!
Thanks to those of you would placed an order and sorry for the disappointment.
Jonathan
when you say "I guess now is just not the time" do you mean that you will take a break from the project?
when you say "I guess now is just not the time" do you mean that you will take a break from the project?
Ah no, I meant it as a "Now is not the time to run a 'non-hype' set (read not Carbon) as GMK" as there are too many of those :) I will not stop this project, although I do have to wait on zFrontier to either get back to me regarding the DSA kits, prices, etc. or get more information on the KAT profile (they offered to run Oasis on that profile but I do not think they are 100% ready to launch it just yet) so it is a little bit out of my hands for the time being. But I will definitely not stop this project :)
when you say "I guess now is just not the time" do you mean that you will take a break from the project?
Ah no, I meant it as a "Now is not the time to run a 'non-hype' set (read not Carbon) as GMK" as there are too many of those :) I will not stop this project, although I do have to wait on zFrontier to either get back to me regarding the DSA kits, prices, etc. or get more information on the KAT profile (they offered to run Oasis on that profile but I do not think they are 100% ready to launch it just yet) so it is a little bit out of my hands for the time being. But I will definitely not stop this project :)
I'm really happy, I think a different profile paradoxically could also involve more interested, at this time given the large number of set gmk in ic and gb. HYPE!!!
the gb of the artisan XO will continue? I'm sad that I cant combine with the Oasis but given the rarity it would be nice to finalize the MOQ.
KMK Labs.
when you say "I guess now is just not the time" do you mean that you will take a break from the project?
Ah no, I meant it as a "Now is not the time to run a 'non-hype' set (read not Carbon) as GMK" as there are too many of those :) I will not stop this project, although I do have to wait on zFrontier to either get back to me regarding the DSA kits, prices, etc. or get more information on the KAT profile (they offered to run Oasis on that profile but I do not think they are 100% ready to launch it just yet) so it is a little bit out of my hands for the time being. But I will definitely not stop this project :)
I'm really happy, I think a different profile paradoxically could also involve more interested, at this time given the large number of set gmk in ic and gb. HYPE!!!
the gb of the artisan XO will continue? I'm sad that I cant combine with the Oasis but given the rarity it would be nice to finalize the MOQ.
KMK Labs.
I don't think the GB will continue for this. As I said, I asked the vendor to contact everyone who bought the RAMA keys to see if they wanted to keep that part of their order as we hit MOQ on that, and I will probably reopen the GB for those once I reopen the GB for Oasis.
This is not a review yet, of course, but Top Clack posted a typing test for the KAT profile and it sounds really nice imho.
This is not a review yet, of course, but Top Clack posted a typing test for the KAT profile and it sounds really nice imho.
Do we really need another profile? Cherry is really nice and ubiquitous. OEM is quite nice too. Then we have a plethora of similar to those, but yet incompatible profiles. We have taihao cubic (unsuccesful), dcs, leopold profile, then we have the various chinese abominations, then we have devlin, and now this kit kat profile...
Sorry for this gb. It was nice. Lately there are an enormous number of gb.It's ok, this is merely a set back, I'll keep working on this :)
Been looking for typing sounds for the KAT profile :)
This is not bad, not bad at all. This might be good balance between large cap look and controlled sound.
IMO, SA has the looks, but it doesn't sound good on linear, especially the space bar.
Sad this didn't make it, but happy because broke and couldn't afford the set but now there's a chance :p
Sad this didn't make it, but happy because broke and couldn't afford the set but now there's a chance :p
I feel like this is the case for many people, me included. The change in profile and the expected lower price and MOQ will really help this out, I hope :-)
Welp, not broke, ready to throw my money at this
Any news?
I know you're collaborating on gmk mono, but I'm curious
Also regarding the RAMA X/O caps, since I noticed their GB is still active, has the MOQ been reached?
KMK Labs.
Any news?
I know you're collaborating on gmk mono, but I'm curious
Also regarding the RAMA X/O caps, since I noticed their GB is still active, has the MOQ been reached?
KMK Labs.
I wish I had some news for you, unfortunately I keep pushing for info but zFrontier stays pretty vague right now. I assume they are still waiting for the KAT GB to be done (like, all the orders shipped, etc) and to see what colors they can get and how close they can get to my colors, before updating me - at least I hope haha
Sorry for the lack of update but there is simply nothing I can provide for the moment :(
instead for the caps of rama you know something? Just to get an idea if I have to wait for a refund or not.
KMK Labs.
instead for the caps of rama you know something? Just to get an idea if I have to wait for a refund or not.
KMK Labs.
Which vendor did you go through? Because I asked every vendor to see with the buyers if they wanted to keep their RAMA order and as far as I know, the order has been placed as we hit MOQ on those. Did you not get contacted?
Hello Everyone!:thumb:
Here is the first update since switching to KAT, I finally heard back from zFrontier, here is what I gathered:The coffee modifiers (and normal modifiers for that matter) might prove to be tricky to make, as I got told the dye-subbing might be affected by the blank keycaps. If a large enough amount of keysets are ordered, this could be solved by using plastic injected blanks which might solve the problem. Black legends would work better, so that is still a solution. That said zFrontier is waiting to place the order for Milkshake and the KAT Alphas before placing an order for Oasis samples, but it is happening, so we'll know more once those are in.
- Legends
MOQ should be around 100-150, a lottle (like a little, except a lot) less than GMK, which makes this way more realistic.
- MOQ
As for the pricing (please, take this with a grain of salt as those are estimates) a kit of 120 keys would set you back around $100
- Pricing
I was "afraid" proxies might be a no-go as Keyreative are an exclusive partner to zFrontier, but zFrontier themselves told me they did not mind using proxies, so that should make it easier for you guys to order :)
- Proxies?
There should be a 3-4 months lead time which, according to Alex from zFrontier, is a safe estimation.
- Lead time
I am focusing on Monochrome right now but I wanted to keep you guys updated and let you know I'm doing all I can to make this happen.
Best,
Jonathan
Hello Everyone!:thumb:
Here is the first update since switching to KAT, I finally heard back from zFrontier, here is what I gathered:The coffee modifiers (and normal modifiers for that matter) might prove to be tricky to make, as I got told the dye-subbing might be affected by the blank keycaps. If a large enough amount of keysets are ordered, this could be solved by using plastic injected blanks which might solve the problem. Black legends would work better, so that is still a solution. That said zFrontier is waiting to place the order for Milkshake and the KAT Alphas before placing an order for Oasis samples, but it is happening, so we'll know more once those are in.
- Legends
MOQ should be around 100-150, a lottle (like a little, except a lot) less than GMK, which makes this way more realistic.
- MOQ
As for the pricing (please, take this with a grain of salt as those are estimates) a kit of 120 keys would set you back around $100
- Pricing
I was "afraid" proxies might be a no-go as Keyreative are an exclusive partner to zFrontier, but zFrontier themselves told me they did not mind using proxies, so that should make it easier for you guys to order :)
- Proxies?
There should be a 3-4 months lead time which, according to Alex from zFrontier, is a safe estimation.
- Lead time
I am focusing on Monochrome right now but I wanted to keep you guys updated and let you know I'm doing all I can to make this happen.
Best,
Jonathan
Is there any chance for ISO and NorDeUk support in KAT profile?++++++++++++++10000000000000
Is there any chance for ISO and NorDeUk support in KAT profile?
Amazing! This set will be a must buy :DIs there any chance for ISO and NorDeUk support in KAT profile?
ISO, that's a given! I already told them I wanted ISO support. As for NorDeUK, I do not know yet, I have to check with them :)
Actually more excited to see this in KAT than GMK. Please no black legends though. The brown legends are what really give this set the earthy, beachy vibe.
As far as I know it's all PBT, but never hurts to ask :DNO ABS please
Thanks for the updates.Is there any chance for ISO and NorDeUk support in KAT profile?
ISO, that's a given! I already told them I wanted ISO support. As for NorDeUK, I do not know yet, I have to check with them :)
As far as I know it's all PBT, but never hurts to ask :DNO ABS please
I can see where you are coming from but I just don't like the glossy shine on abs caps that appears over time.As far as I know it's all PBT, but never hurts to ask :DNO ABS please
PBT has duller colors- that's what I meant about losing the vibrancy. You could end up with something that doesn't match the vision. See SA Godspeed vs XDA Godspeed. It's very noticeable.
I get what you mean- but the colors are one of the major appeals of this set.It’s just that I feel like I’m „damaging“ the abs keycaps with every keypress.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/myBsOm3.jpg)
That's Godspeed XDA vs SA. I even had an artisan to match... and it just doesn't match the colors on the XDA. So the set doesn't match what I had in my mind, making me a little bit disappointed with the set, if not the XDA profile. Even though after use you can see signs of shine on that SA Godspeed, it still looks better, IMO. The XDA just looks like a washed out watercolor version of someone's depiction of the SA, IMO.
NOTE: Look at the mods for comparison. I purchased Supernova on XDA, so the alphas are going to be quite a bit different.
I know that it’s not the same manufacturer but look at dsa drifter
Really looking forward to this. :thumb:
I know that it’s not the same manufacturer but look at dsa drifter
I agree with everyone wanting the most accurate colors, trust me this is also what I want. That said, as far as I know Keyreative also made DSA drifter so it IS the same manufacturer ;)
This might be a moot point in any case if they don't have any other options than PBT. I'm just saying I'm joining for the colors. And that's a big problem on many keysets - the color matching. And PBT is always a bit washed out. Those colors on drifter look fine. But they aren't exactly vibrant, but more muted. It's that way with every PBT set that I've seen and is indeed what designers state as a disadvantage of PBT.
This might be a moot point in any case if they don't have any other options than PBT. I'm just saying I'm joining for the colors. And that's a big problem on many keysets - the color matching. And PBT is always a bit washed out. Those colors on drifter look fine. But they aren't exactly vibrant, but more muted. It's that way with every PBT set that I've seen and is indeed what designers state as a disadvantage of PBT.
I think the problem of GS XDA set is issue of XDA manufacturer. Look at their Milestone, Canvas and 8bit they almost look the same. Keyreative works much better in color which is shown from Drifter and Peach, though they are not as vibrant as ABS. But the guy from Keycreative says the KAT profile keys would have gloss surface finish which may make color better matched with the render.
So is this officially KAT? Renders and main topic opener is still all GMK.
So is this officially KAT? Renders and main topic opener is still all GMK.
I want to see the rendering KAT profile Oasis
more interested in this set now that it is in KAT. Some questions, I know this is far out and your attention is on Monochrome but get to them when you can:cheers :thumb:
- would the kits in KAT Alpha be indicative of the kits for Oasis?
- will there be a 6u center stem space bar?
So is this officially KAT? Renders and main topic opener is still all GMK.I want to see the rendering KAT profile Oasis
Some will come at some point, I promise. As of right now I am still waiting to see it this is 100% doable colorwise and I am waiting to get confirmation from zFrontier. That and the fact that I do not know who can render the KAT profile (I think the renders for the KAT Alpha GB were done by Keyreative themselves, not sure).more interested in this set now that it is in KAT. Some questions, I know this is far out and your attention is on Monochrome but get to them when you can:cheers :thumb:
- would the kits in KAT Alpha be indicative of the kits for Oasis?
- will there be a 6u center stem space bar?
- That's what I am aiming for, that said, we did discuss the possibility of other kits too. It all depends on MOQ and how many persons are interested in this or that kit. What I plan on doing is, if KAT is confirmed, get the quotes, make a Google form with the prices for each kit and leave it up for a couple of days and then decide what kit to run or not to run (I will of course share the numbers)
- If that is available by Keyreative, you can be sure it will make its way into the spacebar kit :)
Well actually in the base kit of KAT Alpha, there are 4 spacebars: 6.25u, 7u, 3u and a 6u but I couldn't find anywhere confirming whether that 6u is centered or off-centered stem LOLShow Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/kat-base-min.jpg?v=1531621364)
BTW, have you considered going hangul legends instead of hiragana? Given how clean the set is, I think it would work even better.
+1BTW, have you considered going hangul legends instead of hiragana? Given how clean the set is, I think it would work even better.
THIS! Please!
BTW, have you considered going hangul legends instead of hiragana? Given how clean the set is, I think it would work even better.
Hello everyone!Amazing news! I would like to get the coffee kit. Is there a chance for a dedicated NorDe kit?
I feel like I've been very absent of this thread for quite a while; I was focusing on GMK Monochrome and I was mostly waiting on zFrontier/Keyreative ("zFrontier" hereafter) for updates.
The thing is that zFrontier wanted to finish the "KAT Alpha" production before launching any other KAT product, and I got confirmation in the second half of december that said production was finishing "real soon" (TM).
I know the first post of this thread still mentions GMK and all renders are for that profile but I've repeatedly asked zFrontier for the 3D files and they told me I would have them by the end of the week (crossing my fingers here, really hope I have them soon). If that is the case, I will try to get some renders for you guys and will post them as soon as possible. 3D files also means that RAMA will be able to work on a key. I already discussed this with him and he said it wouldn't be a problem, as long as he had the files to work with.
zFrontier also mentioned it would be possible to get samples this month to show the colors. I take that with a grain of salt as this of course depends on the KAT Alpha production and on on how well they manage to reproduce the colors. That said, and this is exciting to me, I got "confirmation" that reverse dye-sub should be possible (zFrontier was not confident in this at the beginning). That means that the coffee kit would be possible to produce (it would be more expensive, but still possible). I will of course update you guys as soon as I have more news :)
To finish this update, I do have two points I want to discuss:
- Considering the fact that the coffee kit will cost more to be produced (I also expect a higher MOQ, but not sure, I'll wait confirmation to say anything on this), I wanted to see how much interest there was for the Coffee kit (for some reason I can't access the Strawpoll site, but I will create a poll when I get back home from work); and
- My first attempt really lacked a novelty kit. I can't say for sure that zFrontier can produce novelties with the KAT profile but I would like to see if we can get something done for the RAMA keys (something a little custom as what Biip is getting for Bento - would you guys have any idea? I suck at everything photoshop/illustrator/... so I would appreciate any help you guys would provide.
I think that's it for now, thanks a lot for reading and for your support!
Amazing news! I would like to get the coffee kit. Is there a chance for a dedicated NorDe kit?
To finish this update, I do have two points I want to discuss:
- Considering the fact that the coffee kit will cost more to be produced (I also expect a higher MOQ, but not sure, I'll wait confirmation to say anything on this), I wanted to see how much interest there was for the Coffee kit (for some reason I can't access the Strawpoll site, but I will create a poll when I get back home from work); and
Too late to get in on this GB?This is still in IC phase
Too late to get in on this GB?This is still in IC phase
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I think KAT alpha has finished with shipping and turned out pretty good. So any movement on this?
I think KAT alpha has finished with shipping and turned out pretty good. So any movement on this?
Not sure if others have the same issue, but KAT alpha's stepped caps (capslock and ctrl) are not correctly made and it collides with "A". A few keys are a bit taller than others.
Overall a solid set, but some keys are not usable (at least for me).
I think KAT alpha has finished with shipping and turned out pretty good. So any movement on this?
Not sure if others have the same issue, but KAT alpha's stepped caps (capslock and ctrl) are not correctly made and it collides with "A". A few keys are a bit taller than others.
Overall a solid set, but some keys are not usable (at least for me).
I think KAT alpha has finished with shipping and turned out pretty good. So any movement on this?
Not sure if others have the same issue, but KAT alpha's stepped caps (capslock and ctrl) are not correctly made and it collides with "A". A few keys are a bit taller than others.
Overall a solid set, but some keys are not usable (at least for me).
Sorry, I know nothing about this set, what brand are you talking about? Not gmk it seems.
I'm hoping that this doesn't die, but no updates in months is not a good sign.
Thanks for the update! :)I'm hoping that this doesn't die, but no updates in months is not a good sign.
Oh no, this is 100% dead
All jokes aside, it's not dead, I've recently moved in my new place, started a new job and got super sick for the entire month of March. I've also been waiting for zFrontier to send me 3D files so I could start getting renders and see if everything was ok - Good news is that I got those files last Friday.
Bad news is that it looks like the color I picked for the base of my alphas is not ok. I am going to see if 155 C looks good and see if that is something Keyreative can work with.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qikSnQE.png)
Sorry for the short update guys, I just wanted to let everyone know what this is not dead :)
I'm hoping that this doesn't die, but no updates in months is not a good sign.
Oh no, this is 100% dead :p
All jokes aside, it's not dead, I've recently moved in my new place, started a new job and got super sick for the entire month of March. I've also been waiting for zFrontier to send me 3D files so I could start getting renders and see if everything was ok - Good news is that I got those files last Friday.
Bad news is that it looks like the color I picked for the base of my alphas is not ok. I am going to see if 155 C looks good and see if that is something Keyreative can work with.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qikSnQE.png)
Sorry for the short update guys, I just wanted to let everyone know what this is not dead :)
Hey guys!!I think dropping the blue and making it full coffee would be good for the set, however I'd be much more interested to see it in KAT - having used both, I actually prefer KAT as a profile.
Quick update: nothing. lmao. I wish I had something, but except for the 3D files for renders (font was missing, took a loooooooong time to get that as well), I have no news for you :(
That said, seing GMK Café really makes me feel bad - not that I would be competing with him or anything, just the lack of understanding from the designer about the modifiers' color.
I know most of you wanted to see GMK Coffee (although that did not show in the poll I posted which ended-up being 50/50), but everything I see about this makes me wonder if I should not just drop the blue and make it a real coffee set. Of course, if I were to do that, I would probably stick to GMK (seeing how slowly things are moving with zFrontier) but that would also raise the question of two sets competing against each other, although to be honest I don't really see the similarities with Café (except for the team).
I would like your honest point of view on this because this set would be for me but for all the community to enjoy :)
I think dropping the blue and making it full coffee would be good for the set, however I'd be much more interested to see it in KAT - having used both, I actually prefer KAT as a profile.
I think dropping the blue and making it full coffee would be good for the set, however I'd be much more interested to see it in KAT - having used both, I actually prefer KAT as a profile.
I really really like KAT but it has been 7-8 months that I've been talking to zFrontier and I'm nowhere close to getting samples to make sure the coffee modifiers would look good. I could try and go for just KAT Coffee but again, I can't do that without knowing if the modifiers would look ok.
Edit: I had to say I have no news to get some, hu? zFrontier confirmed they asked Keyreative to produce a couple of sample for the coffee modifiers and the alphas. Super excited to see those and finally be able to move forward with this project!
This is one beautiful set. I love the idea of doing Coffee.
Never heard about KAT profile, reading now. So sounds like it is SA, only lower?
What would be top surface coverage? Bigger than DSA?
DSA has smaller surface than SA or other profiles. Id ont like it so wanted to confim...
This is one beautiful set. I love the idea of doing Coffee.
Never heard about KAT profile, reading now. So sounds like it is SA, only lower?
What would be top surface coverage? Bigger than DSA?
DSA has smaller surface than SA or other profiles. Id ont like it so wanted to confim...
yes, lower SA, spherical tops about XDA coverage, PBT but extremely dense and smooooooooooth. I like the sculpt a lot more than SA, maybe mostly because of the height. Have not switched back to GMK ever since I got KAT Alpha LOL. Here are some of the pictures I took for your reference.
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Awesome, thank you for this.
Would you be able to put it next to SA cap?
Side to side and from top, so I could see the actual top coverage?
How deep is the top surface? More like SA - light edges? Or more like DSA - strong edges like deep dish?
Awesome, thank you for this.
Would you be able to put it next to SA cap?
Side to side and from top, so I could see the actual top coverage?
How deep is the top surface? More like SA - light edges? Or more like DSA - strong edges like deep dish?
Sorry no SA over here (I hate SA :P). The top surface is pretty shallow, unlike MT3 for example. The edges are not that sharp at all and there's no deep dish in the set, only homing bar.
Looking great, but wondering what the extra keys in the UK kit are for, considering ISO UK support looks like thisI brain farted, I made myself the same comment when I saw Biip's kit and yet I still managed to keep it the same... I'll correct that tonight after work.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5hpazpS.png)
What's a "craddle"?It's basically a cradle, but with two Ds :( corrected the typo ^^
Is there any way you could remove the color formatting on your original post? I use a light theme for GH and I can’t read the text.You sir should be happy :) took me a couple of minutes as there were a lot of tags, but it's done :)
Any novelties being considered?
Thanks for putting r3 ctrl in the ortho kit :thumb:
Are the international kits in the last update final, or are they drafts?
(both contain oddities and errors that need to be checked)
Omg, there is a Colevrak kit T_TYou're welcome hehe
So happy to see that!
MoreLooking great, but wondering what the extra keys in the UK kit are for, considering ISO UK support looks like thisI brain farted, I made myself the same comment when I saw Biip's kit and yet I still managed to keep it the same... I'll correct that tonight after work.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5hpazpS.png)What's a "craddle"?It's basically a cradle, but with two Ds :( corrected the typo ^^Is there any way you could remove the color formatting on your original post? I use a light theme for GH and I can’t read the text.You sir should be happy :) took me a couple of minutes as there were a lot of tags, but it's done :)Any novelties being considered?
Thanks for putting r3 ctrl in the ortho kit :thumb:
I managed to forget to post those... smh... here they are :D
NoveltiesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/a2AKHFx.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/P4zEzLQ.png)Are the international kits in the last update final, or are they drafts?
(both contain oddities and errors that need to be checked)
I PMed you about it :) I am aware of the UK kit problems, what about the other issues? :)Omg, there is a Colevrak kit T_TYou're welcome hehe
So happy to see that!
Digging the new ISO novelty!
The Arabic alphas is definitely interestingThanks :) They sure do, plus they play really well with the theme. I am getting a render done with them to better show them :)
Good news! Samples have arrived!
It's night here so the picture has been taken with artificial light, but they look even better IRL :DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/pcfQQmT.jpg)
I’ll be using the same font that was used on the renders :-)Glad to hear that.
Maybe this has been discussed in this thread before, didn't read through it, but the Arabic alphas don't seem very authentic to me with the US symbol layout... Wikipedia also only lists layouts with different symbol patterns. Also, please don't forget the 1u backslash in the number row for the standard split backspace layouts in the alphas.
Lastly, I was wondering about the ortho kit, because it has two alts, two system keys etc which is nice but only one control key for the bottom row, looks like an oversight to me. Also not sure why there's a mod color ` key in the qwerty row but no mod color ' key in the asdf row, might also be a mistake?
I'm about to go to bed but I quickly wanted to answer the Arabic legends point you brought up: I used the ones that MiTo used when he ran a set with Arabic because it was (1) what the community already had/knew and (2) because I like them as they are :)What set did MiTo run that had Arabic legends? I remember GMK Pulse which had an alpha kit with the standard US layout and with Arabic as sublegends, but that's not the same as a mono-Arabic set. With that GMK Pulse kit, it was still mainly a US layout kit.
I'm not opposed to changing them, of course, but I really like the way they look and nobody complained about them yet so I never second guessed it ^^
Maybe this has been discussed in this thread before, didn't read through it, but the Arabic alphas don't seem very authentic to me with the US symbol layout... Wikipedia also only lists layouts with different symbol patterns. Also, please don't forget the 1u backslash in the number row for the standard split backspace layouts in the alphas.
Lastly, I was wondering about the ortho kit, because it has two alts, two system keys etc which is nice but only one control key for the bottom row, looks like an oversight to me. Also not sure why there's a mod color ` key in the qwerty row but no mod color ' key in the asdf row, might also be a mistake?
I'm about to go to bed but I quickly wanted to answer the Arabic legends point you brought up: I used the ones that MiTo used when he ran a set with Arabic because it was (1) what the community already had/knew and (2) because I like them as they are :)
I'm not opposed to changing them, of course, but I really like the way they look and nobody complained about them yet so I never second guessed it ^^
Maybe this has been discussed in this thread before, didn't read through it, but the Arabic alphas don't seem very authentic to me with the US symbol layout... Wikipedia also only lists layouts with different symbol patterns.
Well... just to add fuel to the fire, here's what an IBM Model M keyboard with Arabic legends looks like:
Note the font is different, so some "apparently" different symbols, aren't. Also, note the usage of (modern-style) Arabic numerals.
Also, please don't forget the 1u backslash in the number row for the standard split backspace layouts in the alphas.
Lastly, I was wondering about the ortho kit, because it has two alts, two system keys etc which is nice but only one control key for the bottom row, looks like an oversight to me. Also not sure why there's a mod color ` key in the qwerty row but no mod color ' key in the asdf row, might also be a mistake?
Good news! Samples have arrived!
It's night here so the picture has been taken with artificial light, but they look even better IRL :DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/pcfQQmT.jpg)
Colours look good - the brown reverse dye sub looks a little noisy on top, is that due to the lighting and cap texture?
The alphas look way more peach colored than that tan color from the renders. Will there be another run of samples, or was that intended (might just be the lighting)?
With the second point I was still talking about the ortho kit! I'd say even the preonic doesn't use the grave accent in the qwerty row, it would be in the number row. Planck kits often include an asdf row apostrophe key, for similar reasons as you explained: To keep the symmetry of mod colors and alpha colors. See this apostrophe key for example: https://oblotzky.github.io/sa-oblivion/images/keyboards/sa_oblivion_keyboard_planck_hagoromo_top_orthotilt_wqhd.jpgLastly, I was wondering about the ortho kit, because it has two alts, two system keys etc which is nice but only one control key for the bottom row, looks like an oversight to me. Also not sure why there's a mod color ` key in the qwerty row but no mod color ' key in the asdf row, might also be a mistake?
- I based that kit on the KAT Milkshake kit made by Biip as I have absolutely no experience with this type of board, so apologies for that :) I'll be looking into adding a second ctrl key.
- (assuming you are talking of the modifiers kit and not something else) I'm not 100% sure what you are referring to: the mod color ` key is there for people that use something else than a 60% but want to keep a symmetric look. Could you let me know on what board the mod color ' key in the asdf row would be used? I've check Atlantis, Lucky Jade, Eternal and Milkshake and we are all using the same keys.
So, I was indeed referring to GMK Pulse - when I looked around for Arabic keyboards, I mainly found latin alphas with Arabic sublegends (which is what MiTo did) but I wanted to unclutter the alphas as much as possible so I went with his legends, but as alphas and not sublegends. I can see your point of it looking weird so the best solution to me (and by that I mean to both try and make you guys happy and keep my vision) would be to remove the latin legends completely from the keys and go with the Arabic ones (this would also be done for the numrow)I'm not Arabic myself so I don't feel qualified to say what the best way to make a mono-legend Arabic set would be, but what looked weird to me was that it was still basically a US-Arabic dual legend set on the symbol keys like the semicolon and the apostrophe, and Arabic mono-legend only where there would otherwise be Latin alphabet characters in the US layout, which seems like an inconsistent choice to me.
With the second point I was still talking about the ortho kit! I'd say even the preonic doesn't use the grave accent in the qwerty row, it would be in the number row. Planck kits often include an asdf row apostrophe key, for similar reasons as you explained: To keep the symmetry of mod colors and alpha colors. See this apostrophe key for example: https://oblotzky.github.io/sa-oblivion/images/keyboards/sa_oblivion_keyboard_planck_hagoromo_top_orthotilt_wqhd.jpgLastly, I was wondering about the ortho kit, because it has two alts, two system keys etc which is nice but only one control key for the bottom row, looks like an oversight to me. Also not sure why there's a mod color ` key in the qwerty row but no mod color ' key in the asdf row, might also be a mistake?
- I based that kit on the KAT Milkshake kit made by Biip as I have absolutely no experience with this type of board, so apologies for that :) I'll be looking into adding a second ctrl key.
- (assuming you are talking of the modifiers kit and not something else) I'm not 100% sure what you are referring to: the mod color ` key is there for people that use something else than a 60% but want to keep a symmetric look. Could you let me know on what board the mod color ' key in the asdf row would be used? I've check Atlantis, Lucky Jade, Eternal and Milkshake and we are all using the same keys.
I'm not Arabic myself so I don't feel qualified to say what the best way to make a mono-legend Arabic set would be, but what looked weird to me was that it was still basically a US-Arabic dual legend set on the symbol keys like the semicolon and the apostrophe, and Arabic mono-legend only where there would otherwise be Latin alphabet characters in the US layout, which seems like an inconsistent choice to me.
Aesthetically, I think I would find an entirely Arabic kit appealing.
Colors look really nice IRL and I'm fairly satisfied with them so I do not plan a second run of samplesBut the sample you have doesn't even use the correct font and doesn't use all-caps mods etc, and you haven't seen Arabic or novelty samples yet. Don't you want another run of samples for that stuff? Or are samples super expensive to get?
Thank you for taking this feedback into account!
I was wondering about this:QuoteColors look really nice IRL and I'm fairly satisfied with them so I do not plan a second run of samplesBut the sample you have doesn't even use the correct font and doesn't use all-caps mods etc, and you haven't seen Arabic or novelty samples yet. Don't you want another run of samples for that stuff? Or are samples super expensive to get?
Edit: Looking at the samples next to the renders in the main post I have to agree they don't look the same at all. And I doubt it's entirely because of the lighting in the photo
Here are some more pictures taken with some natural light and with a DSLR:Looks much better, thanks :DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ygfQjYw.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PVAgahB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1MukVw9.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ayHXi3A.jpg)
This is amazing, when is this happening?!?!?!!?Last I saw the GB is supposed to be this coming February. (Don't quote me on that though, I might be wrong haha)
This is amazing, when is this happening?!?!?!!?
This is amazing, when is this happening?!?!?!!?Last I saw the GB is supposed to be this coming February. (Don't quote me on that though, I might be wrong haha)
This is amazing, when is this happening?!?!?!!?
This is coming in February 2020 :) It should be open for a good 5 week to allow people to join with their paycheck from January or February (or both :eyes:) :) Thanks for the support!This is amazing, when is this happening?!?!?!!?Last I saw the GB is supposed to be this coming February. (Don't quote me on that though, I might be wrong haha)
You are totally right :D thanks for answering hehe - The date is in the original post but I'll make an announcement closer to the GB to make sure everyone knows :)
quick update while I'm at it:
Samples for novelties and arabic keys have been ordered - a new sample for the deskmat should arrive soon and prices are being worked on! I will also get more renders in a couple of days now (that's being worked on right now)!
Thank you guys for the support!
Are there any renders involving all three colors i.e. modifiers brown with blue novelties or vise versa?
Any chance of the stepped caps lock legend being changed to just "CAPS" instead of the two line "CAPS↵LOCK"?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qU66mhu.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/R4xZfTk.png)
Any chance of the stepped caps lock legend being changed to just "CAPS" instead of the two line "CAPS↵LOCK"?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qU66mhu.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/R4xZfTk.png)
I don't use stepped caps that often so it's not a big deal to me, but it looks a lot cleaner and more consistent in my opinion.
Is it the lighting or do the alphas samples look way too white?
↡ Kits\Vendors ↠ | MyKeyboard (EU) | Kono (NA) | Deskhero.ca (Canada) | zFrontier (Asian) | zFrontier (China) | DailyClack (Oceania) | Unit Count | |||||||
Latin Alpha | €31 | $29.99 | CAD42 | $28 | ¥166 | $43.19 | 49.5u | |||||||
Arabian Alpha | €31 | $29.99 | CAD42 | $28 | ¥166 | $43.19 | 49.5u | |||||||
Blank Alpha | €23 | $19.99 | CAD28 | $21 | ¥124 | $28.79 | 49.5u | |||||||
Oasis Modifiers | €64 | $54.99 | CAD76 | $62 | ¥368 | $79.19 | 98.25u | |||||||
Oasis Blank Modifiers | €41 | $44.99 | CAD62 | $37 | ¥220 | $64.79 | 87.25u | |||||||
Liha Modifiers | €64 | $54.99 | CAD76 | $58 | ¥345 | $79.19 | 98.25u | |||||||
Liha Blank Modifiers | €57 | $54.99 | CAD76 | $52 | ¥309 | $79.19 | 87.25u | |||||||
Oasis Calculus | €20 | $21.99 | CAD28 | $18 | ¥107 | $28.79 | 28u | |||||||
Liha Calculus | €20 | $21.99 | CAD28 | $18 | ¥107 | $28.79 | 28u | |||||||
Oasis Spacebar | €13 | $17.99 | CAD25 | $12 | ¥71 | $25.91 | 28.25u | |||||||
Liha Spacebar | €19 | $19.99 | CAD28 | $17 | ¥101 | $28.79 | 28.25u | |||||||
Accent | €5.50 | $9.99 | CAD14 | $5 | ¥29 | $14.39 | 8.25u | |||||||
UK | €10 | $12.99 | CAD18 | $9 | ¥53 | $18.71 | 14u | |||||||
International | €36 | $34.99 | CAD48 | $33 | ¥196 | $50.39 | 55u | |||||||
Baguette | €22 | $22.99 | CAD31 | $20 | ¥119 | $33.11 | 34u | |||||||
Colevrak | €30 | $29.99 | CAD42 | $28 | ¥166 | $43.19 | 43.5u | |||||||
CMD | €10 | $14.99 | CAD21 | $9 | ¥53 | $21.59 | 15u | |||||||
Oasis 40s | €43 | $39.99 | CAD55 | $40 | ¥238 | $57.59 | 65.25u | |||||||
Liha 40s | €43 | $39.99 | CAD55 | $40 | ¥238 | $57.59 | 65.25u | |||||||
Oasis Ortho | €26 | $24.99 | CAD34 | $24 | ¥142 | $35.99 | 39u | |||||||
Liha Ortho | €26 | $24.99 | CAD34 | $24 | ¥142 | $35.99 | 39u | |||||||
Oasis Ergo | €41 | $39.99 | CAD55 | $39 | ¥232 | $57.59 | 62u | |||||||
Liha Ergo | €41 | $39.99 | CAD55 | $39 | ¥232 | $57.59 | 62u | |||||||
Oasis Novelties | €18 | $19.99 | CAD28 | $17 | ¥101 | $28.79 | 28.5u | |||||||
Liha Novelties | €18 | $19.99 | CAD28 | $17 | ¥101 | $28.79 | 28.5u |
What is the estimated ship date?
Can you please confirm which of the photos are the closest to real life colors you see with your eyes?
I just noticed in one of the renders there is a 1.5u [sun] and [palm tree] novelty, but the kits only include the 1.5u palm tree, is there no 1.5u sun? Also, the novelty kits only include 1x 1.5u novelty of each variant?
Can you please confirm which of the photos are the closest to real life colors you see with your eyes?
definitely the ones with the deskmat. I know some have some funky alphas (the Brussels keyboars have alphas that are too saturated), but I decided to let those cause the still display the different possibilities with the keyset :)
Can you please confirm which of the photos are the closest to real life colors you see with your eyes?
definitely the ones with the deskmat. I know some have some funky alphas (the Brussels keyboars have alphas that are too saturated), but I decided to let those cause the still display the different possibilities with the keyset :)
So colors on the photo below do not match real live colors as you see them? Are these too bright?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1MukVw9.jpg)
As these on photo above and those rendered ones are different, I want to understand what are those colors in reality.
Are they darker like on renders with desk mat or bright like the photo above?
Can you please confirm which of the photos are the closest to real life colors you see with your eyes?
definitely the ones with the deskmat. I know some have some funky alphas (the Brussels keyboars have alphas that are too saturated), but I decided to let those cause the still display the different possibilities with the keyset :)
So colors on the photo below do not match real live colors as you see them? Are these too bright?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1MukVw9.jpg)
As these on photo above and those rendered ones are different, I want to understand what are those colors in reality.
Are they darker like on renders with desk mat or bright like the photo above?
I understand this is a little confusing, and I will make sure to take some more pictures today when I get home with different lightning to show what I mean.
These renders, out of all the ones I had made, represent the best what the samples look like. They are not an exact match to the pictures because lightning does a lot - the picture you linked has been taken with a DSLR on my balcony around 4.00-5.00 PM with some natural light (not sun, just light) so they look cooler/brighter. The modifiers on the white Conone look a little more bright because of the lightning used and because of the white case.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/tqmzEeX.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/xb0kM3Z.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h6Bp9sN.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gYZHfxT.jpg)
This picture I linked a couple of days ago was taken with my iPhone on my desk with way less natural light and my desklamp on.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5vqkwVn.jpg)
IRL - if we you just forget the sample pics and everything, they look a little warmer/saturated than the picture you are linking, but less so than the Brussels render. Again, I'll take a couple more pictures next to items that I now people have at their home so they can try and compare (can of coke, my silver iPhone, etc.) so you can get a better idea of how it looks.
Hopefully my answer helps a little :)
What is the estimated ship date?
Everything looks fantastic, but out of curiousity, why is there a price difference between the two spacebar kits? Both of them have the same amount of keys. Same goes for Oasis Blank Modifiers and Liha Blank Modifiers also if I'm not mistaken.
Everything looks fantastic, but out of curiousity, why is there a price difference between the two spacebar kits? Both of them have the same amount of keys. Same goes for Oasis Blank Modifiers and Liha Blank Modifiers also if I'm not mistaken.
So sorry for the delayed answer, opened a tab to reply and then forgot - the price difference is caused by the different quotes we got (which I suspect is caused by the different colors). Most kits had under a dollar difference so we could work on the prices to get them identical regardless of the colorway, this was not possible with the spacebar and the blank modifiers kit unfortunately. I hope this helps with your question :)
Here are some more renders and the first pics I share for the Oasis Eldamar! I will be offering a tri-shot Eldamar as well as a bundle of three single shots ones :)
Hello, as an Arab I have some feedback/ comments I think you would be interested in. ( I just found out about this so sorry for telling you so close to GB)
1) Arabic Keycaps are usually dual legend with English, so the mono legend Arabic will be useless functionally because most people switch between both (although I'm sure the main consumers will not be using Arabic keyboard anyways so you don't have to worry about that :) )
2) The word Liha is rarely used, it is a very antiquated word. If you want to say wood, I suggest Khashab (means wood) (خشب) . It makes more sense, (I had to google what Liha meant, and I'm fluent in Arabic, nobody else from my friends knew either)
Overall it is a very nice set and inshallah I will pick up a set.
IS the desk mat going live at the same time as the set?
im waiting for this to go live o mykeyboard.eu they only seem to have placeholders for some of the kits :S i hope they will get all the kits up
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I have done my civic duty and ordered 282.25 units!
I'm about to pull the trigger at Kono over here, but I wanted to make sure of something. The alphas are aligned in the center, and the colevrak kit is aligned in the top left corner, at least in the pictures. Certainly they are both aligned the same, right?
Bless up, cooked the alphas, colevrak, mods, and spacebarsI have done my civic duty and ordered 282.25 units!
Thank you good sir! <3I'm about to pull the trigger at Kono over here, but I wanted to make sure of something. The alphas are aligned in the center, and the colevrak kit is aligned in the top left corner, at least in the pictures. Certainly they are both aligned the same, right?
You are 100% right - all legends are centered just like it was with KAT Alpha :) sorry for that, it was on my To-Do list and somehow got crossed off.
Thanks for pointing this out!